1 00:01:52,247 --> 00:01:56,101 The man is obviously very, very sick. 2 00:01:59,434 --> 00:02:02,559 He should not get live among people again. 3 00:02:03,705 --> 00:02:07,976 I want to see her fear when she will die. I just cut and cut. 4 00:02:09,018 --> 00:02:13,809 The conclusion must be that my client committed the charged offense. 5 00:02:14,018 --> 00:02:16,830 We also have the Sater man... 6 00:02:16,934 --> 00:02:20,789 for the second time emptied the pond in Orjeskogen. 7 00:02:21,622 --> 00:02:24,955 Away. Gone forever. 8 00:02:27,143 --> 00:02:31,309 I admit. It was me. I wanted to see her fear. 9 00:02:36,622 --> 00:02:39,434 I killed every one. 10 00:02:40,372 --> 00:02:43,809 Dad? Dad? 11 00:02:44,018 --> 00:02:46,518 - Dad! - And? 12 00:02:46,622 --> 00:02:50,164 - Then the man takes the cat across the river. - Okay... 13 00:02:50,372 --> 00:02:54,747 Wait! He takes the dog back. 14 00:02:54,955 --> 00:02:59,018 - Then I will take it. - No! He takes the milk back. 15 00:02:59,226 --> 00:03:02,039 Should I leave the doggy? 16 00:03:04,122 --> 00:03:06,622 - Sorry. - Shit! 17 00:03:06,830 --> 00:03:10,580 - Oh, wait. Sorry. - We try again. Thank you, thank you. 18 00:03:10,684 --> 00:03:12,768 Let's try again. Do not give up so easily. 19 00:03:12,976 --> 00:03:16,414 I speak with Hannes Rastam, the journalist? 20 00:03:16,622 --> 00:03:18,080 And. 21 00:03:18,289 --> 00:03:22,143 Do you remember the fires in Falun 75-76? 22 00:03:22,247 --> 00:03:25,997 - No. - A dozen juvenescent people were convicted. 23 00:03:27,247 --> 00:03:31,414 - Though they were innocent. - Yes, how do you know? 24 00:03:31,518 --> 00:03:36,518 I know that, for the one who lit the fires... 25 00:03:36,622 --> 00:03:38,914 it was me. 26 00:03:40,684 --> 00:03:44,018 - Okay. - Check it out. 27 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,122 Thanks. 28 00:04:09,226 --> 00:04:11,518 Why do you want this job? 29 00:04:11,726 --> 00:04:15,036 I think investigative journalism is really exciting. 30 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:18,393 And very important. 31 00:04:18,497 --> 00:04:23,705 If I say I got an anonymous call from a potential pyroman 32 00:04:23,809 --> 00:04:27,664 which has avoided justice for 30 years, what do you do? 33 00:04:27,872 --> 00:04:31,101 - Um, really exciting? - Mm... 34 00:04:31,309 --> 00:04:36,414 Why, we use all means as well, and... go after him. 35 00:04:36,622 --> 00:04:38,289 - Here's the next one. - Thanks. 36 00:04:38,497 --> 00:04:42,247 The problem is that the case has been barred for 20 years. 37 00:04:42,351 --> 00:04:45,476 - Yes, no, then we shit in it. - Mm. 38 00:04:45,580 --> 00:04:49,539 If true, then there is a bunch of 45 year olds in FALUN 39 00:04:49,747 --> 00:04:54,122 who took the blame as teenagers and were sentenced. 40 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:57,247 They need to talk with. 41 00:04:57,455 --> 00:05:02,768 It says here that you read eleven hundred words a minute. 42 00:05:02,872 --> 00:05:04,122 Mm. 43 00:05:04,226 --> 00:05:06,101 - For real? - Yes. 44 00:05:06,309 --> 00:05:10,580 Most resume begins in 19-20-year age. Your starting when you're twelve. 45 00:05:10,684 --> 00:05:13,497 Yes, that was when I left home. 46 00:05:13,601 --> 00:05:17,351 - When you were twelve? - My family are Jehovah's Witnesses. 47 00:05:17,559 --> 00:05:19,539 Well. And? 48 00:05:19,643 --> 00:05:25,684 Yes, they have made me... love... the truth. 49 00:05:34,330 --> 00:05:40,268 In February '76. Many fires in Dalarna. Runs a pyromaniac in Falun? 50 00:05:40,476 --> 00:05:43,289 I certainly do not want to be with. 51 00:05:46,101 --> 00:05:50,684 - At least two or three are... - You hear the what I say. No. 52 00:05:56,830 --> 00:06:00,580 Okay, so you set up on a filmed interview? Thanks. 53 00:06:02,872 --> 00:06:07,768 - Yes! - Thanks! Great. Fine. 54 00:06:07,872 --> 00:06:10,059 Thank you. 55 00:06:10,997 --> 00:06:14,122 How is it otherwise then? Is it busy or? 56 00:06:14,226 --> 00:06:18,184 We should help each other and expose these liars 57 00:06:18,289 --> 00:06:21,309 spreading inaccuracies that Thomas Quick is innocent. 58 00:06:21,518 --> 00:06:24,434 - Did not he is convicted of ten murders? - Eight. 59 00:06:24,539 --> 00:06:28,601 But if it is as you say he is guilty of the eight murders 60 00:06:28,705 --> 00:06:32,664 there is no journalistic achievement reveal that the judges are correct. 61 00:06:32,768 --> 00:06:35,580 He is guilty and lying. 62 00:06:37,455 --> 00:06:42,664 - Thank you for this time. - They mislead the public! 63 00:06:42,768 --> 00:06:46,934 If I admit I have not done it, what then? 64 00:06:47,143 --> 00:06:50,245 "That you should not do", he said. 65 00:06:50,269 --> 00:06:53,393 "But if you admit that you get to go." 66 00:06:53,601 --> 00:06:56,830 Wait, stay here. So runs some boxes. 67 00:06:57,039 --> 00:07:02,039 - So we put the music before. - Even earlier? 68 00:07:02,247 --> 00:07:04,747 Now, run. 69 00:07:04,851 --> 00:07:09,434 "How to go from here. Then you go home." It was as he said. 70 00:07:09,539 --> 00:07:10,997 And. 71 00:07:11,205 --> 00:07:14,955 The whole truth about Falun fires learn never arrive. 72 00:07:15,164 --> 00:07:19,643 But it is clear that several of the participants in reportage 73 00:07:19,747 --> 00:07:23,809 have recognized the fires that they never attended. 74 00:07:30,372 --> 00:07:34,643 And then I told Molly that I was ugly and that Sarah was foolish. 75 00:07:34,851 --> 00:07:38,289 But I was also stupid, but not as dumb as Sara. 76 00:07:38,497 --> 00:07:43,393 - Why, it was perfectly fine. - It was not good at all. In addition... 77 00:07:46,205 --> 00:07:48,601 - Quick back? - Hello? 78 00:07:48,705 --> 00:07:52,976 Well, you were not as stupid as Sarah, that was good? 79 00:07:57,455 --> 00:08:01,934 - Molly is stupid. - So do not think to say. 80 00:08:02,039 --> 00:08:03,809 It is truth. 81 00:08:04,018 --> 00:08:07,664 - You have said that truth is good. - Have I? 82 00:08:08,705 --> 00:08:10,684 Yes, I have enough. 83 00:08:18,601 --> 00:08:23,601 "The case of Thomas Quick depicted in all its gory details." 84 00:08:25,059 --> 00:08:30,789 "The most detailed description of Sweden's worst serial killer." 85 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:34,434 "Quick murdered by the desire" - 86 00:08:34,539 --> 00:08:38,601 "and to give vent to their sadistic inclinations." 87 00:08:38,809 --> 00:08:44,330 "His victims, including several children, were horrific fates" - 88 00:08:45,268 --> 00:08:49,434 "when the psychopath and cannibal Quick hit." 89 00:08:50,164 --> 00:08:55,580 "A must for anyone who wants to follow in the soul's darkest paths." 90 00:08:55,684 --> 00:08:58,214 "A place where the border between the monsters 91 00:08:58,238 --> 00:09:00,789 and humans have been erased." 92 00:09:00,997 --> 00:09:03,289 Dad! 93 00:09:15,268 --> 00:09:19,226 "Quick got early diagnosis sadistic pedophile" 94 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:21,934 "and judged not only be dangerous" 95 00:09:22,143 --> 00:09:26,205 "but sometimes danger to the safety of life and limb." 96 00:09:26,309 --> 00:09:28,601 This writes already in 1970. 97 00:09:28,809 --> 00:09:32,976 A year after he was pretty rough molested four juvenescent boys. 98 00:09:33,914 --> 00:09:37,351 One of them, when he was working at a hospital. 99 00:09:37,976 --> 00:09:41,518 No, there, take it easy. It is the examination. 100 00:09:41,622 --> 00:09:46,622 - Do not keep doing with your hands! - Stop! 101 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:50,997 And three years before he almost knife killed a man in Uppsala. 102 00:09:52,976 --> 00:09:55,893 - But listen to this. - For the hell...! 103 00:09:55,997 --> 00:10:00,997 Quick was convicted of eight murders, but has admitted safely about 20 to. 104 00:10:01,205 --> 00:10:04,643 Before he took back his real name Sture Bergwall, 105 00:10:04,851 --> 00:10:07,872 and completely silent for about seven years ago. 106 00:10:07,976 --> 00:10:10,893 Here. Johan Asplund, eleven years. 107 00:10:13,497 --> 00:10:16,934 Disappeared when he was on his way to school. 108 00:10:17,143 --> 00:10:19,643 Pasta Stegehuis. 109 00:10:21,726 --> 00:10:25,164 Was stabbed to death while they were on holiday in Appojaure. 110 00:10:25,372 --> 00:10:28,393 Yenon Levi, juvenescent Israel. 111 00:10:30,580 --> 00:10:33,184 Beaten to death with a trapak. 112 00:10:33,289 --> 00:10:35,580 Charles Zelmanovitz. 113 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,684 Disappeared on her way home from a school dance. 114 00:10:40,789 --> 00:10:45,164 And here. Therese Johannessen. In Norway. 115 00:10:45,372 --> 00:10:49,643 Nine years. Disappeared when she was out in the yard playing. 116 00:10:49,851 --> 00:10:51,622 Trine Jensen. 117 00:10:53,705 --> 00:10:55,684 Storvik Game. 118 00:10:56,934 --> 00:11:00,789 Also in Norway. Both sexual murdered. Do you understand? 119 00:11:00,997 --> 00:11:05,268 Different geographical locations. Various approaches. Different sex. 120 00:11:05,476 --> 00:11:10,684 Different ages. Different things. He must be quite unique in the world. 121 00:11:12,976 --> 00:11:15,372 It's absolutely incredible. 122 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:23,601 - How the hell could you with all this? - Worked a little at night. 123 00:11:25,059 --> 00:11:26,622 Interesting shit, but... 124 00:11:26,830 --> 00:11:29,747 And how is it possible to be convicted of murder 125 00:11:29,955 --> 00:11:33,914 when you do not even know that a murder has been committed? 126 00:11:34,122 --> 00:11:37,559 When there is not even a body. As the Johan case. 127 00:11:37,664 --> 00:11:42,455 There's no one who's seen him. We'll rummage a bit in this. 128 00:11:42,664 --> 00:11:45,997 Check around, fact-check. I'm talking with Erik. 129 00:11:46,205 --> 00:11:50,476 - He will say no. - He will say yes. 130 00:11:50,580 --> 00:11:52,143 No! 131 00:11:54,434 --> 00:11:58,705 But if we dig into this, then nobody else to do it. 132 00:11:58,914 --> 00:12:04,018 Quick Case is second Palme murder the most noted of modern times. 133 00:12:04,122 --> 00:12:06,414 Everything is found. 134 00:12:06,518 --> 00:12:11,414 - And all the wounds are still open. - We could work in parallel. 135 00:12:11,622 --> 00:12:13,705 - No. - Well, then... 136 00:12:13,809 --> 00:12:16,101 No! 137 00:12:18,497 --> 00:12:21,726 I'll just take a quick look. 138 00:12:21,934 --> 00:12:24,643 You. Archives 4? 139 00:12:35,684 --> 00:12:38,601 Archives 4. Here you go. 140 00:12:38,705 --> 00:12:41,309 Slam the door then when you go. 141 00:13:31,622 --> 00:13:33,289 And? 142 00:13:33,497 --> 00:13:36,309 Jenny, listen here. "They then went away" 143 00:13:36,518 --> 00:13:41,309 "but not far, but stayed there the road was a little wider." 144 00:13:41,518 --> 00:13:44,851 "They took the body out of the car and Quick wore it"... 145 00:13:44,955 --> 00:13:48,497 Hannes. What exactly are we looking for? 146 00:13:49,434 --> 00:13:54,018 Receipts. I just want to see real evidence. Do you understand? 147 00:13:54,226 --> 00:13:57,872 I want to see that he is guilty, then we quit. 148 00:14:09,330 --> 00:14:11,518 Sater, department 31st. 149 00:14:11,726 --> 00:14:15,893 Hey, it was Hannes Rastam here again from SVT. 150 00:14:15,997 --> 00:14:19,643 I called earlier to hear about opportunities 151 00:14:19,747 --> 00:14:23,080 to meet Sture Bergwall and perhaps make... 152 00:14:23,289 --> 00:14:28,393 Wait. He has declined all the visits and journalist talks for many years. 153 00:14:28,601 --> 00:14:31,101 - I understand. - I can not help you. 154 00:14:31,205 --> 00:14:33,393 I understand. Okay. Thanks. 155 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:43,497 - How is the letter? - What? 156 00:14:43,705 --> 00:14:48,393 I thought maybe he would appreciate receiving a letter. 157 00:15:12,664 --> 00:15:15,268 Dear Sture. 158 00:15:15,476 --> 00:15:19,955 I know you since several years has turned back journalists. 159 00:15:20,164 --> 00:15:23,601 What I see as a very understandable choice. 160 00:15:23,809 --> 00:15:26,830 But I still wanted to ask the question- 161 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,580 if it would be possible to meet you. 162 00:15:30,684 --> 00:15:34,643 Nothing of what we discuss will be published. 163 00:15:36,205 --> 00:15:40,580 I ask you only if an unconditional meeting. 164 00:15:40,684 --> 00:15:45,476 It is my belief that a call could be rewarding, 165 00:15:45,684 --> 00:15:49,330 not only for me but also for you. 166 00:15:49,434 --> 00:15:53,289 Sincerely, Hannes Rastam. 167 00:16:01,101 --> 00:16:03,809 If he went to all the small roads? 168 00:16:04,018 --> 00:16:07,559 For he has still taken from there to there in 50 minutes. 169 00:16:07,768 --> 00:16:11,726 - Yes, it's... - You know what? We do it like this. 170 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,893 Five minutes conspiracy theory. 171 00:16:16,101 --> 00:16:19,955 What if it's like the witness says Quick could not drive a car. 172 00:16:20,164 --> 00:16:23,289 - As the fall prosecutor entire evidence. - Hello. 173 00:16:23,497 --> 00:16:25,268 What's happening here? 174 00:16:25,476 --> 00:16:29,747 We, uh, working on a sequel to... 175 00:16:31,518 --> 00:16:33,914 pyroman document breaker. 176 00:16:34,122 --> 00:16:38,809 - There is more to get there, then? - It's worth checking anyway. 177 00:16:42,351 --> 00:16:44,851 Yeah, uh... good. 178 00:16:46,309 --> 00:16:50,372 Josefsson, when I get to see something? You told me Wednesday, right? 179 00:16:52,976 --> 00:16:56,622 - Thanks. - We'll see the evidence. That's it. 180 00:17:02,664 --> 00:17:05,684 - Hello. - Hello. 181 00:17:12,455 --> 00:17:15,164 Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew... 182 00:17:19,018 --> 00:17:23,497 I think like... sausage stroganoff, perhaps? Or? 183 00:17:24,851 --> 00:17:27,143 Mm, it's good. 184 00:17:32,455 --> 00:17:34,955 - Where's Emma? - Emma? 185 00:17:37,351 --> 00:17:38,914 Emma? 186 00:17:39,955 --> 00:17:43,497 - Hannes? - Hey, Hannes Rastam. 187 00:17:43,601 --> 00:17:47,039 - Where's Emma? - I have read your letter. 188 00:17:47,247 --> 00:17:50,893 And watched on TV your movie about Falun pyromaniac. 189 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:55,372 - Hell! - Seriously? 190 00:17:55,476 --> 00:17:58,080 You seem very serious. 191 00:17:58,289 --> 00:18:04,122 You can visit me at Sater for an unconditional meeting. 192 00:18:06,101 --> 00:18:08,497 Sincerely... 193 00:18:08,601 --> 00:18:11,205 - Hi Emma. - Sture Bergwall. 194 00:18:26,622 --> 00:18:30,789 Bergenwall has thus been in and out of Sater late 70s. 195 00:18:30,893 --> 00:18:33,914 He sat there as he began to confess the murder. 196 00:18:34,226 --> 00:18:38,184 A Goran Kalberg was chief physician at the time. 197 00:18:38,393 --> 00:18:43,289 Late last judgment in 2001, he has no contacts outside the department. 198 00:18:46,101 --> 00:18:50,789 Ehm, Bergenwall now has been silent for seven years now, so... 199 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:54,955 Good luck tomorrow. 200 00:19:56,934 --> 00:19:59,226 I strangled her. 201 00:21:24,122 --> 00:21:27,351 According to the chief physician to get ten minutes. 202 00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:31,622 Does it work as it becomes more next time. 203 00:21:34,122 --> 00:21:37,976 If you want to come out, press this. 204 00:21:38,184 --> 00:21:41,934 Then we faster than you can blink. 205 00:22:01,309 --> 00:22:05,372 - Hello. - Sture. 206 00:22:08,184 --> 00:22:13,184 - Hannes. - Hello. Nice. Well... 207 00:22:13,393 --> 00:22:16,622 - Did the trip go well? - Yes. 208 00:22:18,914 --> 00:22:21,726 - There was a lot of forest. - It's nice. 209 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:24,851 The forest. I like to run in the woods. 210 00:22:26,309 --> 00:22:30,684 - You run? - No. Uh... no. 211 00:22:32,664 --> 00:22:37,351 - No. Should we put ourselves maybe? - Yes. 212 00:22:39,018 --> 00:22:42,039 - Do you drink coffee? - Yes please feel free. 213 00:22:42,247 --> 00:22:46,205 - I brought you some pastries. - Oh, what is good. 214 00:22:46,934 --> 00:22:48,601 Thanks. 215 00:23:03,497 --> 00:23:05,893 Mm. 216 00:23:06,101 --> 00:23:07,976 Danish pastry. 217 00:23:28,289 --> 00:23:32,455 Is that where this kind of shooting with it? 218 00:23:32,664 --> 00:23:34,747 It is a mobile phone. 219 00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:38,705 - Is it a phone? Can I watch? - Absolutely. 220 00:23:40,164 --> 00:23:44,330 I have never spoken to anyone cell phone. 221 00:23:44,539 --> 00:23:47,768 Talk just like this? Hello Hello? 222 00:23:47,976 --> 00:23:51,622 Secret Army. Have you seen it? 223 00:24:00,684 --> 00:24:02,872 As such, Sture. You, ehh... 224 00:24:06,622 --> 00:24:11,101 When you came here, Gorbachev was still in power in Russia. 225 00:24:11,309 --> 00:24:15,164 - Yes. - There was no internet. 226 00:24:15,372 --> 00:24:20,268 Kurt Cobain was still alive. How do you survive so long isolation? 227 00:24:20,476 --> 00:24:25,789 The only way to survive in here that's being incredibly rutinig. 228 00:24:25,893 --> 00:24:30,372 - Incredibly rutinig. - What do you do during the day? 229 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:34,122 - Can you describe today? - Should I just tell you? 230 00:24:34,330 --> 00:24:37,976 - Gladly. - 5:29 I step up. 231 00:24:39,018 --> 00:24:41,622 And after morning procedures, 232 00:24:41,726 --> 00:24:45,580 I'm going into the kitchen 05:54, where I get my breakfast. 233 00:24:45,789 --> 00:24:51,205 I'm so punctual that conservationists say they can set the time for me. 234 00:24:56,414 --> 00:25:00,372 6:05 I call then on another watch. 235 00:25:01,622 --> 00:25:05,684 To be released in the exercise yard to go for my morning walk. 236 00:25:07,247 --> 00:25:10,684 The walk lasts 1 hour 20 minutes. 237 00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:15,684 07:25, then showers i. I usually get very sweaty. 238 00:25:15,893 --> 00:25:21,205 Then take my work to solve crossword puzzles at. 239 00:25:24,434 --> 00:25:29,643 I get many difficult crossword magazines and never leave any unsolved. 240 00:25:29,851 --> 00:25:34,851 Sometimes they can take days to resolve, but I solve them forever. 241 00:25:35,059 --> 00:25:38,914 21.30 I go to bed and turn out the lights. 242 00:25:39,226 --> 00:25:44,539 And when will it be dark. "Pitch black", as they say. 243 00:25:47,143 --> 00:25:52,247 You are living in extremely... rigorous security arrangements. 244 00:25:52,455 --> 00:25:57,768 But can not you, Hannes Rastam, tell us a little about yourself? 245 00:25:57,976 --> 00:26:00,164 - Do you have a family? - Yes. 246 00:26:00,372 --> 00:26:04,851 - What is your day like? - Uh, yes, I... have family. 247 00:26:05,059 --> 00:26:06,726 Mhm. 248 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,268 - Nice. Do you have kids? - Mm. 249 00:26:10,476 --> 00:26:12,976 Well. Boy or girl? 250 00:26:15,684 --> 00:26:19,851 - Uh, it's a girl. - Oh, how nice. Girls. 251 00:26:19,955 --> 00:26:24,747 - It must be wonderful fun. - Yes that... 252 00:26:31,414 --> 00:26:33,809 And what's her name? 253 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:46,934 - Her name is Emma. - Oh. What a beautiful name. 254 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:54,747 Yes it is... 255 00:27:00,164 --> 00:27:04,643 - So there, y'all. That was it. - Okay. 256 00:27:34,851 --> 00:27:38,289 I do not know. He is incredibly difficult to read. 257 00:27:38,393 --> 00:27:42,559 He is a mentally ill person. There is no question about it. 258 00:27:42,664 --> 00:27:46,414 And honestly, I wheat damn what we do here then. 259 00:27:50,268 --> 00:27:54,955 - What was his chief physician at Sater? - Kalberg? 260 00:27:55,164 --> 00:27:59,018 I think hell I just drove past him. 261 00:27:59,226 --> 00:28:00,893 Damn, damn... 262 00:28:03,601 --> 00:28:06,518 - Goran Kalberg? - Yes it is true. 263 00:28:06,622 --> 00:28:11,518 - Hello. Hannes Rastam. I'm... - I know, I've seen you on TV. 264 00:28:18,184 --> 00:28:22,247 You were the chief physician at Sater for Quick-time, right? 265 00:28:22,351 --> 00:28:24,747 Yes. We were left here. 266 00:28:29,226 --> 00:28:34,226 Would you be willing to talk to me about Thomas Quick? 267 00:28:34,434 --> 00:28:37,351 It is the secrecy on that. 268 00:28:38,497 --> 00:28:41,622 - I just met Sture. - Yes? 269 00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:44,539 - How is he? - I do not know. 270 00:28:44,643 --> 00:28:49,018 - It's hard for me to judge. - Yes. It is difficult for everyone. 271 00:28:50,684 --> 00:28:53,184 Good luck. 272 00:28:53,393 --> 00:28:57,664 If Bergenwall solve you from the privacy, you can talk then? 273 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,872 I feel great loyalty to Saters forensic psychiatric clinic. 274 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:14,018 But I do not want to be involved in the cover-up of a legal scandal. 275 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:31,622 Kalberg talking about a legal scandal, but there is forensic evidence. 276 00:29:31,726 --> 00:29:37,455 The bones from Therese case. Quick pointed out the location in Norway. 277 00:29:37,664 --> 00:29:41,622 We're talking about pieces of bone from a child, Hannes. Here... 278 00:29:45,476 --> 00:29:49,851 I can tell you that the techniques found bone fragments, 279 00:29:50,059 --> 00:29:54,643 from the very place that Thomas Quick pointed out. 280 00:29:54,747 --> 00:29:57,768 And it says the prosecutor himself. 281 00:29:57,976 --> 00:30:02,247 And in this piece of bone found a notch from a saw. 282 00:30:02,455 --> 00:30:07,351 On the site they found even a hacksaw blades that fit into the groove. 283 00:30:09,747 --> 00:30:14,434 Yes but then so. There we have the evidence. 284 00:30:19,539 --> 00:30:22,976 Good. Good. 285 00:30:30,372 --> 00:30:34,018 Is it possible to get that piece of bone, do you? 286 00:30:34,955 --> 00:30:38,080 It's quite impossible, but... 287 00:30:38,289 --> 00:30:41,830 this is the right damning, it must be said. 288 00:30:44,851 --> 00:30:48,601 - What the hell are we doing? - He is convicted of eight murders, Hannes. 289 00:30:48,705 --> 00:30:51,726 Full sick murder. 290 00:30:52,455 --> 00:30:54,434 Gry Storvik, Oslo. 291 00:30:54,643 --> 00:30:58,914 Raped and... You look. Total damaged. 292 00:31:15,268 --> 00:31:17,455 Hi. 293 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:22,351 Are you lonely tonight? Do you want company? 294 00:31:30,268 --> 00:31:35,476 Do you have a place we can go to? You do not say much. 295 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,622 Sture, you've recognized numerous murders. 296 00:31:51,726 --> 00:31:54,434 And sentenced to eight of them. 297 00:31:54,643 --> 00:31:58,289 If you stand firm in these confessions still? 298 00:31:59,539 --> 00:32:03,601 Confessions stands, yes. It does. 299 00:32:04,643 --> 00:32:07,039 It's done. 300 00:32:10,476 --> 00:32:13,578 I wonder, what would happen if you 301 00:32:13,602 --> 00:32:16,726 had to stay free in the community? 302 00:32:17,872 --> 00:32:20,789 Would you kill and desecrate a child again? 303 00:32:20,893 --> 00:32:25,164 No, no, no. It would not do. 304 00:32:25,372 --> 00:32:29,330 What would happen if you, let's say you got to live frit 305 00:32:29,434 --> 00:32:32,768 under some countenance course? 306 00:32:33,705 --> 00:32:38,184 Doctors believe that I have to be held within forensic psychiatric care. 307 00:32:38,393 --> 00:32:43,497 I've heard what they say. Now I ask you. 308 00:32:43,601 --> 00:32:46,726 You still seems to be a fairly normal person. 309 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:49,643 - You think? - Yes. Sensible. 310 00:32:49,851 --> 00:32:53,080 How fun. And it would not be, you mean? 311 00:32:53,289 --> 00:32:55,893 No. 312 00:32:56,101 --> 00:33:01,205 You are regarded as the most dangerous of Sweden and craziest psycho. 313 00:33:01,309 --> 00:33:02,768 Already. 314 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,643 Mons. Can... 315 00:33:27,247 --> 00:33:32,872 Well, I wanted to... just get an old cookie jar with some pictures... 316 00:33:32,976 --> 00:33:36,622 I thought you might have some interest in seeing. 317 00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:38,080 Yes please. 318 00:33:38,289 --> 00:33:42,768 It is, above all, uh, my twin sister. 319 00:33:42,976 --> 00:33:45,580 Here's Gun. And she is completely normal. 320 00:33:45,684 --> 00:33:49,018 - She's not a psycho. - Where is the gun. 321 00:33:49,226 --> 00:33:52,559 Here is a picture of me when I... 322 00:33:52,664 --> 00:33:55,893 - I was pretty cute as children. - Let's see. 323 00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:59,434 - How old are you here then? - Ehh, three. 324 00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:02,351 Look here. 325 00:34:02,455 --> 00:34:06,726 - And this was a bit embarrassing. - Why was it embarrassing? 326 00:34:08,601 --> 00:34:14,539 This woman is the only woman I ever had sex with. 327 00:34:18,705 --> 00:34:20,684 The yet? 328 00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:25,164 It was during one period. I had a hope that... 329 00:34:25,372 --> 00:34:30,580 to live together with a woman, and perhaps have children. 330 00:34:30,684 --> 00:34:34,955 Look here. Here is Patrick and I am on my way home from Iron Maiden in the Globe. 331 00:34:35,164 --> 00:34:37,976 Can I borrow some of your photos? 332 00:34:38,184 --> 00:34:42,039 - You'll get them back. - I'll probably be happy picture of Lina... 333 00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:46,518 Eventually, maybe we should start filming our meetings, too? 334 00:34:46,622 --> 00:34:49,955 If you think it's okay. 335 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,164 Answer: Yes. 336 00:34:55,372 --> 00:34:59,434 This is the only woman Sture ever had sex with. 337 00:34:59,643 --> 00:35:01,830 According to him yourself. 338 00:35:02,976 --> 00:35:05,580 - What then? - Exactly. 339 00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:09,122 It is not Gry Storvik. 340 00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:12,559 How often do gay pedophile, 341 00:35:12,664 --> 00:35:15,684 rape and kill adult women? 342 00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:23,705 - He gush out, mind you, or? - Yes or... 343 00:35:25,372 --> 00:35:29,122 Or so he tried to manipulate me somehow. 344 00:35:54,018 --> 00:35:57,559 What the hell? Is Sture Bergwall who has lit the Falun? 345 00:35:57,664 --> 00:36:02,664 - There is only one thing we check in. - It is indeed my responsibility. 346 00:36:02,872 --> 00:36:08,393 Really. One of Sweden's most publicized mass murderers. 347 00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:13,809 The prosecutor... van der Kwast. He has gotten him convicted of ten murders. 348 00:36:13,914 --> 00:36:15,372 Eight. 349 00:36:15,476 --> 00:36:19,018 - And it's all wrong? - It is absolutely not what we say. 350 00:36:19,226 --> 00:36:22,664 - But that's what you think. - We look at the evidence. 351 00:36:22,872 --> 00:36:28,809 How many families settled down to a madman murdered their loved ones? 352 00:36:29,018 --> 00:36:32,872 It affects hundreds of people. Do you understand what that would mean? 353 00:36:36,934 --> 00:36:40,372 - Look at my face. - I'm looking at your face. 354 00:36:41,726 --> 00:36:44,539 - What do you see? - One senses a certain reluctance. 355 00:36:44,747 --> 00:36:47,664 It's a big fucking doubt. 356 00:36:47,768 --> 00:36:52,664 It's pretty simple. Either lying Bergenwall or so he speaks the truth. 357 00:36:52,768 --> 00:36:56,830 He speaks the truth, we have nothing. If he does not, then bastards. 358 00:36:56,934 --> 00:37:00,997 - Then it's the scoop of the decade. - Yes, something like that. 359 00:37:02,351 --> 00:37:06,309 Damn. It's Eve. She sits down in a taxi waiting. 360 00:37:06,414 --> 00:37:09,851 We are going to the Royal Dramatic Theater. I'm also hesitant. 361 00:37:10,059 --> 00:37:13,393 - It can be seen quite clearly. - Thank you, thank you for that. 362 00:37:14,539 --> 00:37:19,018 Okay, dammit. But I want to have concrete evidence. Bloody fucking solid. 363 00:37:19,226 --> 00:37:22,559 You should be able to build my new house for them. Does it sound good? 364 00:37:22,768 --> 00:37:25,268 Sounds great. 365 00:37:26,309 --> 00:37:28,601 Yes I am coming. It begins eight. 366 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:33,914 Bloody fucking solid. He should be able to build their new houses on them. 367 00:37:34,851 --> 00:37:39,018 We need to get hold of someone who was on Sater from beginning. 368 00:37:39,226 --> 00:37:42,247 Before Sture began to admit murder. 369 00:37:44,434 --> 00:37:47,247 Where do we find such a time? 370 00:38:05,372 --> 00:38:07,768 - Mia Ekberg? - And. 371 00:38:09,226 --> 00:38:10,997 Hannes. 372 00:38:15,684 --> 00:38:18,393 - Yes, anonymously. - Absolutely. 373 00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:23,289 - Is it okay if I write down a little? - Sure. 374 00:38:26,518 --> 00:38:30,997 - Yes. You worked as a caregiver in Sater? - Yes. 375 00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:35,789 Well, I was there from, uh... from '91. 376 00:38:38,914 --> 00:38:42,455 Sture come back a few months later, then. 377 00:38:42,664 --> 00:38:46,414 - After which the bank robbery, you know. - Mm. 378 00:38:48,289 --> 00:38:50,893 He was down. 379 00:38:54,122 --> 00:38:56,518 Almost completely apathetic. 380 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,414 - Are you okay? - No, I feel bad. 381 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:20,164 Try to rest for a while. 382 00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:26,414 I think Sture was the loneliest man I ever met. 383 00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,372 He needed the someone to talk to. 384 00:39:32,143 --> 00:39:37,976 And then came the time... well, Birgitta Stahle to Sater. 385 00:39:38,184 --> 00:39:41,622 And... Margit Norell then, of course. 386 00:39:49,226 --> 00:39:51,518 Dear colleagues. 387 00:39:55,268 --> 00:39:58,184 With great reverence I give now the word, 388 00:39:58,393 --> 00:40:01,414 the creator of Holistic compound. 389 00:40:01,622 --> 00:40:06,622 The woman who for years had its lead in mental development. 390 00:40:06,830 --> 00:40:09,434 The woman who created methods, 391 00:40:09,643 --> 00:40:14,434 to penetrate deeper into man's innermost secrets. 392 00:40:14,539 --> 00:40:19,955 Everyone's our guiding principle and teachers: Margit Norell! 393 00:40:42,143 --> 00:40:45,372 Thanks for the nice words, Bridget. 394 00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,372 Then I want to get straight to the point. 395 00:40:56,934 --> 00:41:00,476 What we know, friends, that's... 396 00:41:01,414 --> 00:41:07,247 that man unconsciously categorize second people, 397 00:41:07,455 --> 00:41:10,684 in light of previous relationships. 398 00:41:10,789 --> 00:41:14,747 And think of what that means in practice. 399 00:41:17,664 --> 00:41:22,872 Personality disorders can be explained by object relational theory. 400 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,497 As to the human ability to find suitable representations 401 00:41:28,601 --> 00:41:33,601 and thus establish durable relations are disturbed... 402 00:41:34,851 --> 00:41:40,580 since all subsequent relationships aimed back at the mother. 403 00:41:41,622 --> 00:41:47,039 The adult violent crime is almost always re-configurations 404 00:41:47,247 --> 00:41:51,830 of the abuse he suffered during childhood. 405 00:41:52,872 --> 00:41:57,664 And many years of experience in object relations has taught me 406 00:41:58,601 --> 00:42:04,330 in the quietest water swims the biggest fish. 407 00:42:04,539 --> 00:42:07,455 And... the sickest. 408 00:42:08,705 --> 00:42:12,039 Those who most need our help. 409 00:42:21,726 --> 00:42:25,684 - And then what happened? - Yes... 410 00:42:26,726 --> 00:42:31,101 Sture nag if he wants to "talk to itself", he says. 411 00:42:32,247 --> 00:42:37,039 Nothing hurts Sture, he just needs a friend. 412 00:42:37,247 --> 00:42:41,830 Are there any of you who have time to be Sture's friend? 413 00:42:45,684 --> 00:42:51,101 We got along well, and I Sture. I think he... 414 00:42:53,289 --> 00:42:55,164 liked me. 415 00:42:57,664 --> 00:43:00,789 - As a friend, that is. - Mm, of course. 416 00:43:02,664 --> 00:43:05,580 I wonder what you would think of me, 417 00:43:05,684 --> 00:43:10,789 if you found out that I have done something really, really rough. 418 00:43:12,768 --> 00:43:14,955 What, then, roughly? 419 00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:19,747 I can give you... a clue. 420 00:43:22,455 --> 00:43:24,330 Okay. 421 00:43:26,205 --> 00:43:30,476 M... U. 422 00:43:31,934 --> 00:43:34,226 - Him? - Yes. 423 00:43:43,184 --> 00:43:47,351 I met an old friend of yours. Mia, who worked here. 424 00:43:47,455 --> 00:43:51,101 - Fine Mia! - Do you remember Mia? 425 00:43:51,309 --> 00:43:55,684 She was actually one of the nicest people I ever met. 426 00:43:55,893 --> 00:43:58,184 She said you had... 427 00:43:58,289 --> 00:44:03,601 started telling terrible things you might have done for her. 428 00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:13,184 - And then she talked about Margit Norell. - She did? 429 00:44:15,268 --> 00:44:20,164 So, Margaret, she... She was like a mother. 430 00:44:21,934 --> 00:44:23,914 Everyone's mother. 431 00:44:24,643 --> 00:44:30,059 Bridget and Margaret have actually written a book together. 432 00:44:30,268 --> 00:44:33,184 - About me. - A book? What kind of book? 433 00:44:33,393 --> 00:44:37,768 Well, it was thought that it would revolutionize psychiatry. 434 00:44:37,976 --> 00:44:43,705 It was a follow up to Freud's case study on the Wolfman, they said. 435 00:44:43,914 --> 00:44:46,934 It was never published. I do not know why. 436 00:44:47,143 --> 00:44:51,518 But I found a copy of my room when I was cleaning the other day. 437 00:44:58,809 --> 00:45:00,684 Holy shit! 438 00:45:02,143 --> 00:45:06,622 - Hello. Sorry, I forgot the phone. - Norell has written a book about Sture. 439 00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:10,580 - Oh, fuck. - Yes that's true. "She's incredible." 440 00:45:10,684 --> 00:45:14,122 "Can you imagine? She has written a book about me." 441 00:45:14,330 --> 00:45:17,872 And where is it then? Right here in front of me... 442 00:45:24,434 --> 00:45:26,934 Hello? 443 00:45:27,872 --> 00:45:31,101 That's more like it is in your hand. 444 00:45:31,309 --> 00:45:34,539 You see that I can move the thumb, but there is more here... 445 00:45:34,643 --> 00:45:38,809 - Hello. How are you? - Well, that was the one fucking bang. 446 00:45:39,018 --> 00:45:41,830 But it seems to have gone well anyway. 447 00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:47,247 Someone said I did not need... Because I would really like the night, 448 00:45:47,455 --> 00:45:51,414 but it would be great if I did not, because I have stuff to do... 449 00:45:51,622 --> 00:45:53,809 We would like to X-Ray you first. 450 00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:40,893 We found something on CT... we'll investigate further. 451 00:46:41,726 --> 00:46:44,747 Not related to the accident to do. 452 00:46:46,101 --> 00:46:49,955 A piece of tissue that should not be there. 453 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,997 - Yes? - Soon someone will help you. 454 00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:12,768 I see a new documentary every week about people who survive cancer. 455 00:47:13,809 --> 00:47:19,747 Cancer of the media and the reality is sadly different things. 456 00:47:19,955 --> 00:47:23,809 Yes Yes. But if you were to give you a guess... 457 00:47:23,914 --> 00:47:27,247 If it is there is a suspicion... 458 00:47:27,455 --> 00:47:30,476 - it can be difficult to operate. - Okay. 459 00:47:30,684 --> 00:47:34,539 And then we look at alternative methods of treatment. 460 00:47:34,747 --> 00:47:39,747 And I want to be totally honest. Only where it is... 461 00:47:39,851 --> 00:47:44,434 If it has spread, it will not be cured completely. 462 00:47:49,434 --> 00:47:52,559 Hei, Emma. It's Dad. How are you? 463 00:47:52,768 --> 00:47:55,893 - Good. Are you coming home? - No, not today. 464 00:47:55,997 --> 00:47:59,330 I'm sorry I miss football. I would need... 465 00:47:59,539 --> 00:48:03,497 - Help! Help! Do not you remember... - What do you do anything? 466 00:48:03,601 --> 00:48:06,830 - You are so strange little finger. - No. 467 00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,330 - Yes! - No! 468 00:48:10,372 --> 00:48:13,601 - It is normal. - Completely normal? 469 00:48:13,705 --> 00:48:16,518 - Emma! - It's ugly! 470 00:48:16,726 --> 00:48:19,226 - It is not! - Emma? 471 00:48:19,330 --> 00:48:24,018 - You can talk to mom. - No, I want to talk to you. 472 00:48:24,226 --> 00:48:27,247 The woman, now you listen to me. 473 00:48:43,601 --> 00:48:45,580 Well, what the hell, Hannes? 474 00:48:45,684 --> 00:48:49,955 I was a little distracted only. I ought to have been a little better track. 475 00:48:50,893 --> 00:48:56,309 - I hope they checked thoroughly. - Yes. It is quiet. 476 00:48:56,414 --> 00:48:59,434 I could not just take the train home. So thanks for this. 477 00:48:59,539 --> 00:49:02,872 Well, it is well obvious. 478 00:49:06,830 --> 00:49:10,372 Well. Tell us a little about yourself then. 479 00:49:11,726 --> 00:49:15,580 About myself? There is not much more than what you see. 480 00:49:18,393 --> 00:49:20,684 When were you happy later? 481 00:49:20,789 --> 00:49:23,705 That was when you hired me. 482 00:49:23,809 --> 00:49:27,455 - Damn! - What then? And you? 483 00:49:35,268 --> 00:49:38,474 Today, when I was talking to my daughter 484 00:49:38,498 --> 00:49:41,726 on the phone. It... it was fine. 485 00:49:49,434 --> 00:49:53,914 Look, the money we make, what we're doing... 486 00:49:55,893 --> 00:49:58,497 It must be important. 487 00:50:00,164 --> 00:50:03,809 - Of course. - What is important to you? 488 00:50:04,018 --> 00:50:06,414 It is the truth. 489 00:50:07,664 --> 00:50:09,955 When we go there. 490 00:50:10,893 --> 00:50:13,289 We'll do that. 491 00:50:13,393 --> 00:50:16,830 But first... my favorite dish. 492 00:50:17,872 --> 00:50:20,580 Vegetable gratin! 493 00:51:00,684 --> 00:51:05,476 The first stab open the trunk and then the right leg off. 494 00:51:05,684 --> 00:51:10,789 The patient returned portray here. He tries to repair Simon. 495 00:51:15,684 --> 00:51:19,018 Sture? You know Mia who works here? 496 00:51:20,476 --> 00:51:24,851 Do you remember the conversation you had with her down at the beach? 497 00:51:25,059 --> 00:51:27,143 And...? Oh, yeah, yeah. 498 00:51:30,372 --> 00:51:32,664 What does it mean "MU"? 499 00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:39,851 - "MU." - Yes... 500 00:51:40,059 --> 00:51:42,872 It was because I have... 501 00:51:44,539 --> 00:51:50,164 may have been guilty of some terrible things. 502 00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:57,351 - Some memories have surfaced. - Good. Tell us about the memories. 503 00:51:57,559 --> 00:51:59,434 I have... 504 00:52:01,934 --> 00:52:05,268 weak memories of a drive. 505 00:52:05,372 --> 00:52:08,809 - A drive? - For Sundsvall. 506 00:52:15,476 --> 00:52:20,684 - I have memories of blood. - Blood? 507 00:52:22,768 --> 00:52:25,789 - And a little boy. - Boy? 508 00:52:25,893 --> 00:52:28,289 A small boy. 509 00:52:29,851 --> 00:52:34,018 As I think said his name was John. 510 00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,684 And "MU"? What does it mean? 511 00:52:42,664 --> 00:52:45,476 Yes, it has to do with this. 512 00:52:47,351 --> 00:52:51,414 - Sture? - "Murder". 513 00:52:53,914 --> 00:52:57,039 - What...? - "Murder." 514 00:52:59,851 --> 00:53:02,143 Have you murdered someone? 515 00:53:03,601 --> 00:53:07,664 - Did you kill John? - It's what I do not know. 516 00:53:10,372 --> 00:53:11,830 Sture? 517 00:53:14,330 --> 00:53:18,705 - Gone forever. Gone forever. - Calm, Sture. 518 00:53:20,268 --> 00:53:22,872 Hello, baby face. 519 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,622 "Cliff" are talking English, although Sture not. 520 00:53:26,726 --> 00:53:31,309 And it's not at all unusual that the alternative identity, 521 00:53:31,518 --> 00:53:34,643 in the body of a person speaking a foreign language. 522 00:53:34,747 --> 00:53:39,747 I like the feeling of your deadline! 523 00:53:39,851 --> 00:53:43,601 - But it's Ellington growls? - Yes. 524 00:53:50,997 --> 00:53:52,664 - Sture. - Calm, Sture. 525 00:53:52,872 --> 00:53:53,914 No! 526 00:53:55,580 --> 00:53:57,559 No! 527 00:53:57,664 --> 00:54:01,830 Not the neck, Mom! Not Simon! 528 00:54:01,934 --> 00:54:05,684 While they abused him sexually, 529 00:54:05,893 --> 00:54:10,476 slaughtered mother and father Sture's little brother's fetus Simon 530 00:54:10,684 --> 00:54:14,955 and forced then Sture eating part of him. 531 00:54:15,164 --> 00:54:17,768 Sture again portray here. 532 00:54:19,851 --> 00:54:24,018 He has internalized their terrifying experiences. 533 00:54:24,226 --> 00:54:28,705 It is quite amazing that he has begun to remember. 534 00:54:30,684 --> 00:54:35,580 The adult violent crime is almost always re-configurations, 535 00:54:35,684 --> 00:54:40,372 of the abuse he suffered during childhood. 536 00:54:56,101 --> 00:55:00,476 Christer van der Kwast was nobody to Johan Asplund case. 537 00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:10,268 When he hears that a crazy man on Sater talked about Johan Asplund murder. 538 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,330 What has he said? 539 00:55:14,434 --> 00:55:17,664 - And shortly thereafter, he created... - Sater man. 540 00:55:17,768 --> 00:55:22,247 Pointed out places where he has hidden Johan Asplund body parts. 541 00:55:22,455 --> 00:55:27,247 Technicians are currently looking for hands outside Falun. 542 00:55:27,455 --> 00:55:32,664 We hope and believe that this disappearance a speedy solution, 543 00:55:32,872 --> 00:55:35,893 and that John's parents get answers. 544 00:55:36,101 --> 00:55:40,268 But his parents never thought that Quick was behind the disappearance. 545 00:55:40,372 --> 00:55:45,684 We sit never complacent to Sture Bergwall murdered our son. 546 00:55:45,789 --> 00:55:51,518 The truth lies elsewhere. We have told all and the police. 547 00:55:51,622 --> 00:55:55,268 We have been saying for Christer van der Kwast. 548 00:55:58,184 --> 00:56:00,580 But no body was found. 549 00:56:00,684 --> 00:56:05,372 That we have not found anything does not mean that there is anything to find. 550 00:56:06,414 --> 00:56:08,080 Blomgren. 551 00:56:08,289 --> 00:56:12,455 We also have the Sater man served information, 552 00:56:12,664 --> 00:56:15,997 if he in 1964 as a 14 age 553 00:56:16,205 --> 00:56:21,414 murdered the same age Thomas Blomgren in Vaxjo. 554 00:56:21,518 --> 00:56:25,684 - What do John's parents? - Is there a serial killer? 555 00:56:25,789 --> 00:56:28,214 Sture was able to describe in detail the location 556 00:56:28,238 --> 00:56:30,684 where Thomas Blomgren was murdered. 557 00:56:34,643 --> 00:56:38,809 Seppo Penttinen was van der Kwasts faithful squire. 558 00:56:42,872 --> 00:56:48,601 Sture, you can try to show approximately where you were in the morning? 559 00:56:49,643 --> 00:56:54,018 We will of course ride from the south, as I remember it... 560 00:56:54,226 --> 00:56:56,830 Just so I understand what you say... 561 00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:00,789 - You were not alone? - No. 562 00:57:00,893 --> 00:57:04,747 So you killed with a friend? Who was it? 563 00:57:04,955 --> 00:57:09,018 A gentleman named Sixten Eliasson. 564 00:57:10,372 --> 00:57:12,559 It was he who drove the car. 565 00:57:16,622 --> 00:57:20,997 Sture's alleged co-defendant was not followed up properly. 566 00:57:22,768 --> 00:57:27,351 The bones of Therese case is thus the only forensic evidence. 567 00:57:42,872 --> 00:57:46,934 But maybe it's time for you to take a trip to Norway. 568 00:57:54,643 --> 00:57:59,018 Police in Drammen videotaped all flashes with Quick in Therese case. 569 00:57:59,226 --> 00:58:03,809 You can borrow cassettes for 24 hours if they do not leave the country. 570 00:58:05,059 --> 00:58:09,434 So... it gets First Hotel Ambassadeur in Drammen. 571 00:58:09,643 --> 00:58:12,664 I have ordered late checkout. 572 00:58:46,518 --> 00:58:50,268 How's it going, Sture? Do you get in your medicine? 573 00:58:51,622 --> 00:58:55,893 - Do you want some water? - No, I... I have Coke. 574 00:59:10,268 --> 00:59:12,872 Is he sleeping? Can you bring... 575 00:59:19,434 --> 00:59:23,497 Touch something, Thomas? Is that something you see? 576 00:59:32,976 --> 00:59:36,622 It was there where I did not want to see! 577 00:59:36,830 --> 00:59:40,476 - What did not you see? - No, it was an uprooted tree! 578 00:59:45,684 --> 00:59:47,976 Called! 579 00:59:48,914 --> 00:59:52,768 Come and help me. Help me! 580 00:59:52,872 --> 00:59:57,768 "Nomis"? What is it, Thomas? Do you recognize yourself? 581 00:59:57,872 --> 01:00:01,934 I can not tell you where to turn, I can only point. 582 01:00:02,143 --> 01:00:06,830 - Can you point to where to turn then? - Then we turn right, next. 583 01:00:06,934 --> 01:00:10,684 - Did I say that? - Yes, you said it right, Thomas. 584 01:00:10,893 --> 01:00:13,914 - Okay. - You are really good now. 585 01:00:25,893 --> 01:00:31,518 - Heart and stomach and kidney... - Do you recognize yourself, Thomas? 586 01:00:31,622 --> 01:00:35,059 Sture? Is this you killed her? 587 01:00:35,268 --> 01:00:37,143 Yes, yes. 588 01:00:39,851 --> 01:00:42,976 The spine is spjucklig somehow. 589 01:00:43,184 --> 01:00:46,101 Sven-Åke, what the hell is he saying? 590 01:00:50,476 --> 01:00:53,914 Go into memory when you kill her. 591 01:00:59,434 --> 01:01:02,872 - You know... - Pig motherfucker! 592 01:01:03,809 --> 01:01:05,997 Take it easy now, Sture! 593 01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:09,851 Thomas, Thomas! Thomas! Where have you hidden Therese? 594 01:01:19,018 --> 01:01:22,455 - Gone forever. - Is that you, Ellington? 595 01:01:28,184 --> 01:01:32,976 Through the initial regression may Sture contact with the event. 596 01:01:33,184 --> 01:01:36,934 Thus, we can also produce a full recollection of the event. 597 01:01:37,143 --> 01:01:39,643 Were did you body, Thomas? 598 01:01:45,997 --> 01:01:49,539 - Here. - Is this the place? 599 01:01:49,643 --> 01:01:54,747 - Search your hidden memories. - Do you get anxiety when you see the pond? 600 01:01:54,955 --> 01:01:58,289 I have in the difficult, the... 601 01:01:58,497 --> 01:02:03,497 - Can we break now? -Yes, we take a break. - Borgstrom. 602 01:02:16,518 --> 01:02:22,664 Sture is thus at one point completely massacred body. 603 01:02:22,768 --> 01:02:25,997 I open Therese then with a knife. 604 01:02:26,830 --> 01:02:32,143 Then he swam out in the middle of the pond and let the body parts there. 605 01:02:32,976 --> 01:02:36,101 - Good. - Talk as we understand. 606 01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:41,934 - This is the fear. - The lake is the fear? 607 01:02:42,143 --> 01:02:47,247 Do you see the place? Was it here? You dumped her in the lake? 608 01:03:40,268 --> 01:03:44,539 - What about Norway? - Norway! Norway. 609 01:03:51,205 --> 01:03:55,580 What is this thing? It was on your table. 610 01:03:55,789 --> 01:03:59,330 What is that? Are you sick? 611 01:04:03,289 --> 01:04:06,414 Of course you can not be. Right? 612 01:04:06,518 --> 01:04:09,747 Then you would of course have told you in this case. 613 01:04:13,497 --> 01:04:17,976 You should have told your wife and your daughter, right? 614 01:04:20,268 --> 01:04:24,122 It's the kind of thing you do. They talk to each other. 615 01:04:24,330 --> 01:04:27,455 - Are you going to die? What? - Why, add now. 616 01:04:34,018 --> 01:04:36,414 But say something, Hannes. 617 01:04:47,872 --> 01:04:50,059 Say something. 618 01:04:57,872 --> 01:04:59,643 Sorry. 619 01:05:21,205 --> 01:05:25,893 - You dropped out of the investigation. - Yes I did. 620 01:05:28,497 --> 01:05:30,893 Why? 621 01:05:33,601 --> 01:05:36,205 Because it was a pure farce. 622 01:05:40,684 --> 01:05:43,809 For me it's quite simple. 623 01:05:43,914 --> 01:05:49,747 If the investigation could present a single concrete tangible evidence 624 01:05:49,851 --> 01:05:53,497 to Sture Bergwall has done what he has recognized, 625 01:05:53,705 --> 01:05:56,622 I would possibly shut up... 626 01:05:56,726 --> 01:06:00,893 He could point out the place where Gry Storvik murdered. 627 01:06:03,601 --> 01:06:07,247 He knew stab placement in Appojaure. 628 01:06:10,476 --> 01:06:13,809 And we have that piece of Therese case. 629 01:06:14,018 --> 01:06:18,601 But take these hides to human body parts that he's talking about. 630 01:06:20,268 --> 01:06:24,018 Why have you never found them? 631 01:06:24,226 --> 01:06:27,351 And one more thing you should check... 632 01:06:27,455 --> 01:06:31,622 It is about Sture Bergwall ever left a single task either 633 01:06:31,830 --> 01:06:35,059 that the police do not have already known. 634 01:06:51,622 --> 01:06:56,205 Oh, what work you put into it! You have been in Norway... 635 01:06:56,414 --> 01:06:58,601 Honestly, I have to say 636 01:06:58,705 --> 01:07:03,393 that the trip to Norway and all that I saw there made me very... 637 01:07:05,684 --> 01:07:08,184 think. 638 01:07:09,539 --> 01:07:13,705 - Yes? - I saw the police video footage. 639 01:07:17,143 --> 01:07:20,893 You got a lot of drugs, right? 640 01:07:22,976 --> 01:07:27,351 During flushes it seemed extremely affected. 641 01:07:30,372 --> 01:07:35,893 Honestly, you behaved as though you've never been to the site. 642 01:07:40,580 --> 01:07:45,476 Sture, you can understand that this is what I see when I look at the video? 643 01:07:57,559 --> 01:07:59,643 If that's the way it is... 644 01:07:59,851 --> 01:08:04,747 I have not been guilty of any of all these murders... 645 01:08:06,518 --> 01:08:09,226 What should I do? 646 01:08:10,997 --> 01:08:16,622 If you are not guilty, Sture, you have the chance of a lifetime now. 647 01:08:17,455 --> 01:08:22,143 All here think they know that I owe. 648 01:08:22,351 --> 01:08:26,309 Six different courts have judged me guilty of eight murders. 649 01:08:26,518 --> 01:08:31,934 I know that. But if you're innocent, and is willing to tell the truth 650 01:08:32,143 --> 01:08:35,476 does all that other not matter. 651 01:08:39,122 --> 01:08:42,039 I think we break here now. 652 01:09:19,851 --> 01:09:21,622 It's Sture. 653 01:09:21,726 --> 01:09:26,622 This is Hannes. I just hear how it felt after our meeting today. 654 01:09:27,664 --> 01:09:32,455 Well, uh... So, it feels good. 655 01:09:33,601 --> 01:09:36,622 - How do you feel? - I? 656 01:09:39,747 --> 01:09:44,330 A few days ago my colleague asked me if I was happy at the latest. 657 01:09:45,164 --> 01:09:49,434 And I said that was when I was talking to my daughter. 658 01:09:50,684 --> 01:09:52,872 They usually say so. 659 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,247 And I mean, I love her and everything like that, it's not... 660 01:09:57,455 --> 01:10:02,247 It's just so rare I really there with her the whole me. 661 01:10:03,289 --> 01:10:08,289 I mean, I... I think otherwise. 662 01:10:10,580 --> 01:10:12,976 And when you're happy? 663 01:10:17,559 --> 01:10:19,226 Just do not. 664 01:10:26,101 --> 01:10:28,914 Sture, I'm left in Sater. 665 01:10:30,580 --> 01:10:34,018 Can I come and see you tomorrow? 666 01:10:36,726 --> 01:10:39,955 You know, you're so welcome. 667 01:10:40,789 --> 01:10:42,559 Bye. 668 01:10:58,809 --> 01:11:00,580 Sture? 669 01:11:02,351 --> 01:11:06,309 You've said that you have committed 30 murders. 670 01:11:07,768 --> 01:11:09,122 And. 671 01:11:09,330 --> 01:11:14,851 But there are no witnesses, no DNA, no forensic evidence. 672 01:11:14,955 --> 01:11:17,976 How is that possible? 673 01:11:19,643 --> 01:11:23,914 You've talked about your parents' sexual abuse. 674 01:11:25,164 --> 01:11:31,205 How to... forced to eat parts of your brother Simon fetus. 675 01:11:31,309 --> 01:11:36,518 All of this should have been done without the rest of the family noticed something. 676 01:11:36,726 --> 01:11:38,809 Who is lying? 677 01:11:49,018 --> 01:11:52,351 I have not committed 678 01:11:52,455 --> 01:11:56,309 any of the murders I'm found guilty pre 679 01:11:56,414 --> 01:12:00,684 and not some of the others I recognized either. 680 01:12:00,893 --> 01:12:03,497 That's how it is. 681 01:12:14,747 --> 01:12:18,601 But why, Sture? Why did you do then? 682 01:12:24,643 --> 01:12:26,726 The... 683 01:12:26,934 --> 01:12:30,893 I actually wondered myself. 684 01:12:34,330 --> 01:12:39,539 When I came here after the bank robbery, I had no contact with my family. 685 01:12:39,643 --> 01:12:42,039 And I felt totally useless. 686 01:12:42,247 --> 01:12:47,559 I had long vurmat of psychoanalysis and psychotherapy, especially. 687 01:12:47,664 --> 01:12:51,205 I would just like to inform you that... 688 01:12:51,414 --> 01:12:54,747 I've thought about taking my own life. 689 01:12:54,955 --> 01:12:58,705 Can you tell that to the therapists there? 690 01:12:58,914 --> 01:13:02,455 And the first blow, it takes in the trunk... 691 01:13:02,559 --> 01:13:07,872 I realized this on Sater you have to pick up horrible memories. 692 01:13:08,184 --> 01:13:12,664 Mom takes a piece of meat and put in my mouth. 693 01:13:12,768 --> 01:13:16,830 And I say, "No, Mom! Mom, I'm not hjuvenescentry!" 694 01:13:16,934 --> 01:13:21,622 - Sture again portray here. - And the bone breaks. 695 01:13:21,726 --> 01:13:24,955 He wants to repair her little brother Simon, 696 01:13:25,164 --> 01:13:29,539 through the body parts he saves from the people he has killed. 697 01:13:29,747 --> 01:13:34,434 I try to take Simon's place. 698 01:13:34,643 --> 01:13:37,559 I take his hand and discovers... 699 01:13:41,622 --> 01:13:44,226 that the hand is off. 700 01:13:44,434 --> 01:13:49,539 And that's what all this is about killing. 701 01:13:49,747 --> 01:13:51,934 Little boy. 702 01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:55,684 It is quite amazing that he has begun to remember now. 703 01:13:55,893 --> 01:14:01,309 But it is very logical, Bridget. So difficult things hidden away. 704 01:14:02,247 --> 01:14:05,372 The child is trying to survive. That's how it is. 705 01:14:07,976 --> 01:14:13,914 And now he needs your help to sort all this chaos. 706 01:14:17,976 --> 01:14:19,643 Thanks. 707 01:14:37,768 --> 01:14:40,893 - Good day, Sture. - Hi. Hey. 708 01:14:41,101 --> 01:14:45,580 I so want to introduce to you a very good friend. 709 01:14:45,789 --> 01:14:50,164 Sven-Åke Christianson. And he works for the police. 710 01:14:50,268 --> 01:14:52,664 - Hey, Sture. - Hello Hello. 711 01:14:55,476 --> 01:14:58,289 How nice to finally meet you. 712 01:14:58,497 --> 01:15:02,976 I'll help you remember things that you probably repressed. 713 01:15:03,184 --> 01:15:05,580 I often help the police with that. 714 01:15:05,684 --> 01:15:09,226 - He's just fine on it. - How nice. 715 01:15:09,434 --> 01:15:13,080 It's kind of funny. You and I are almost as old. 716 01:15:13,289 --> 01:15:18,601 - Oh, really? - I have been a visiting scholar in the United States. 717 01:15:18,809 --> 01:15:20,684 No? 718 01:15:20,789 --> 01:15:25,684 And there we have something called the "serial killer". 719 01:15:25,893 --> 01:15:28,289 Oops. It does not sound good. 720 01:15:28,393 --> 01:15:32,455 And a famous serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer is. 721 01:15:32,559 --> 01:15:36,309 And... he's not unlike you. 722 01:15:40,164 --> 01:15:44,410 May I ask you... How do you think he felt 723 01:15:44,434 --> 01:15:48,681 when he dismembered his victims? 724 01:15:48,705 --> 01:15:54,434 I would say that the primary feeling was, uh... 725 01:15:56,934 --> 01:16:01,205 colossal... swoon. 726 01:16:02,247 --> 01:16:05,789 Extremely interesting. Great, Sture. 727 01:16:05,893 --> 01:16:09,851 We'll talk about this. I look forward to it. 728 01:16:09,955 --> 01:16:14,851 As soon as I started looking at the memories when I got the incredible response. 729 01:16:15,059 --> 01:16:19,226 - Sture feel very bad. - He should get more Xanax if he wants. 730 01:16:19,434 --> 01:16:21,622 And this with the room... 731 01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:25,893 - Thus, an incredible response. - In which way? 732 01:16:26,101 --> 01:16:31,101 - In the form of therapy and medication. - What kind of medication? 733 01:16:31,309 --> 01:16:34,851 - Above all benzodiazepines. Xanax. - Benzo? 734 01:16:34,955 --> 01:16:37,976 I got a bigger room even. 735 01:16:48,184 --> 01:16:50,684 Birgitta? Can you sit down? 736 01:16:50,893 --> 01:16:53,184 And it was that way. 737 01:16:53,289 --> 01:16:58,914 The more I could tell, the more benzo I could get. 738 01:17:01,518 --> 01:17:04,330 And the more benzo I could have 739 01:17:04,434 --> 01:17:09,018 the more uninhibited, I could be in my narrative. 740 01:17:14,851 --> 01:17:16,726 Hello, Sture. 741 01:17:16,934 --> 01:17:19,643 Why, hello. Hi. 742 01:17:21,518 --> 01:17:23,184 Well... 743 01:17:25,268 --> 01:17:27,976 What are you sitting and writing on today? 744 01:17:28,184 --> 01:17:31,518 I have started to write a small text 745 01:17:31,726 --> 01:17:35,893 that might be a book about all the terrible things that have happened. 746 01:17:35,997 --> 01:17:38,184 Yeah, but what fun. 747 01:17:38,289 --> 01:17:43,184 I have actually thought about writing a book about this. 748 01:17:43,289 --> 01:17:47,664 You, uh, I've talked to Margaret and Bridget. 749 01:17:47,768 --> 01:17:52,143 And they said you might want to talk... 750 01:17:52,247 --> 01:17:54,539 a little boy. 751 01:17:59,330 --> 01:18:03,914 I do not want to do it. I would however be happy to share information 752 01:18:04,018 --> 01:18:10,164 on a journey that went to Norway, where I can have... 753 01:18:12,039 --> 01:18:15,245 kidnapped, raped, murdered 754 01:18:15,269 --> 01:18:18,497 and dismembered a girl. 755 01:18:19,955 --> 01:18:21,830 - A girl? - Mm. 756 01:18:23,601 --> 01:18:26,622 It was a little unexpectedly, I must say. 757 01:18:27,664 --> 01:18:31,830 - Why did you confess? - Doctors strangled medication. 758 01:18:31,934 --> 01:18:34,643 It was just before Asplund judgment. 759 01:18:34,851 --> 01:18:38,809 Take it from the beginning. Tell us about the therapy. 760 01:18:43,393 --> 01:18:45,997 I'll kill Thomas! 761 01:18:46,205 --> 01:18:50,997 It was a colossal pressure from the therapists that I could tell. 762 01:18:51,205 --> 01:18:54,955 Sture, was the Cliff or Ellington killed Yenon? 763 01:18:55,164 --> 01:18:58,914 Sture! Where the Cliff or Ellington killed Yenon? 764 01:18:59,122 --> 01:19:03,809 I was like this and shook... Have you seen when detoxified? 765 01:19:04,955 --> 01:19:08,289 So when Ellington takes shape and trying 766 01:19:08,497 --> 01:19:11,934 but fail to take back his power 767 01:19:12,143 --> 01:19:15,580 then it is the first time in his life 768 01:19:15,789 --> 01:19:19,018 as Sture will experience objektkonstans. 769 01:19:20,684 --> 01:19:24,018 Yes, it's extremely interesting. 770 01:19:24,226 --> 01:19:27,559 We're supposed to remember that the only period of security 771 01:19:27,664 --> 01:19:31,518 as Sture felt with her mother must have been in the womb. 772 01:19:31,726 --> 01:19:35,580 But there was also the twin sister Gun. 773 01:19:35,684 --> 01:19:41,309 She could be the mother bond with. But never to Sture. Never. 774 01:19:41,518 --> 01:19:44,539 - I think she wanted him dead. - Yes. 775 01:19:44,643 --> 01:19:46,830 Little boy. 776 01:19:52,247 --> 01:19:55,997 - You can turn it off there. - I'm all sweaty. 777 01:19:56,205 --> 01:20:02,247 It would be very valuable for me to take part of your medical records. 778 01:20:02,455 --> 01:20:06,518 - But... no, do not think I want to. - Why not? 779 01:20:07,664 --> 01:20:13,080 It feels so terribly embarrassed to let anyone outside to take part 780 01:20:13,289 --> 01:20:17,455 of everything I have said and done during all these years. 781 01:20:17,664 --> 01:20:23,601 Everyone has read about murdered children and eating their bodies. 782 01:20:23,809 --> 01:20:28,393 What can reasonably be maintained that may be embarrassing for you? 783 01:20:28,601 --> 01:20:32,351 The whole thing is so embarrassing it can be. 784 01:20:33,705 --> 01:20:37,247 - Why, I... - No, Sture. No. You know what? 785 01:20:37,455 --> 01:20:40,684 Two rules if you want me to continue with this. 786 01:20:40,893 --> 01:20:43,601 (1) Never lie to me. 787 01:20:43,809 --> 01:20:47,768 From now on, you speak always the truth. Do you understand? 788 01:20:47,976 --> 01:20:50,164 Yes. Yes. 789 01:20:50,268 --> 01:20:54,330 (2) I have to get a warrant. 790 01:20:56,726 --> 01:20:59,747 - Do we agree? - Yes of course. 791 01:20:59,851 --> 01:21:01,622 Bro. 792 01:21:03,601 --> 01:21:06,309 Here. Take this. 793 01:21:07,455 --> 01:21:11,414 - But hide it in a safe place. - Sure. 794 01:21:13,601 --> 01:21:15,059 No. 795 01:21:15,164 --> 01:21:18,809 I have put in floor heating, but then I read precis 796 01:21:19,018 --> 01:21:22,224 to have high temperature slab can absorb 797 01:21:22,248 --> 01:21:25,476 moisture from the ground. 798 01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:28,289 So now you must not be so high. 799 01:21:28,393 --> 01:21:33,809 One should not raise and lower, the difference in temperature can... 800 01:21:34,018 --> 01:21:37,664 - Can you stay here? - What, here? 801 01:21:41,622 --> 01:21:43,914 Kalberg! 802 01:21:44,018 --> 01:21:47,455 - I tried calling you. - I know. 803 01:21:47,664 --> 01:21:51,622 - Do not you talk to me or? - No. 804 01:21:51,726 --> 01:21:55,789 Just one question, one last question. I've read the records. 805 01:21:55,997 --> 01:22:00,372 It seems to coincide in time to Sture medication strangle 806 01:22:00,580 --> 01:22:04,539 and he ended admit murder. Is that correct or? 807 01:22:04,643 --> 01:22:09,539 I discovered that Sture had been given too much medicine for too long. 808 01:22:09,643 --> 01:22:13,601 - So I strangled the flow. - And then he stopped talking? 809 01:22:13,705 --> 01:22:15,476 And. 810 01:22:17,976 --> 01:22:22,664 - What are you thinking about it? - I'm thinking a lot about it. 811 01:22:22,768 --> 01:22:27,039 - But it rang no bells, then? - It rang all sorts of bells. 812 01:22:27,247 --> 01:22:31,414 But you let them call? You did not think you'd do anything? 813 01:22:31,622 --> 01:22:37,039 Maybe you thought it was right for him? That he could sit there? 814 01:22:37,247 --> 01:22:40,997 That it was part of the "integration" of Sater? Was it so? 815 01:22:41,205 --> 01:22:43,914 But why did you do nothing? 816 01:22:44,122 --> 01:22:48,080 I checked the possibility of requesting stature. 817 01:22:48,289 --> 01:22:52,455 - You did? - Yes. But they said it was impossible. 818 01:22:56,518 --> 01:23:00,684 - So, good luck. - Can you say this on film? 819 01:23:10,580 --> 01:23:14,018 On the positive side we see VI 820 01:23:14,226 --> 01:23:18,184 your body to tolerate chemotherapy. 821 01:23:18,289 --> 01:23:21,518 How much time do I have left? One year? Half a year? 822 01:23:21,726 --> 01:23:24,434 It's a question we often hear. 823 01:23:24,643 --> 01:23:28,601 We tend not to enter anyone exact time 824 01:23:28,809 --> 01:23:33,393 because it is extremely individual. 825 01:23:34,851 --> 01:23:40,372 And... we want to focus on the quality of your life. 826 01:23:42,664 --> 01:23:46,309 Sture has withdrawn its recognition. 827 01:23:46,414 --> 01:23:50,268 And I've got all his records. 828 01:23:51,101 --> 01:23:54,434 Find someone who can make this understandable. 829 01:23:56,518 --> 01:23:59,226 How's it going with the bones? 830 01:23:59,434 --> 01:24:03,289 - Kwast rejects independent experts. - They need us well? 831 01:24:03,393 --> 01:24:06,414 - But... - Without them we will not further notice. 832 01:24:06,622 --> 01:24:11,101 Piece of bone can be all the difference on the Swedish justice 833 01:24:11,309 --> 01:24:15,476 has sentenced a mental case man for eight murders he did not commit! 834 01:24:15,580 --> 01:24:19,747 - Or if we're on the bikes. - Mm, I know, thank you. 835 01:24:21,726 --> 01:24:25,684 Why do you say things to me that I already know? 836 01:24:26,830 --> 01:24:29,539 What is this something? 837 01:24:43,497 --> 01:24:46,830 - Sorry. - Mm. 838 01:24:49,330 --> 01:24:54,539 Hearing Minutes from Therese-case. Quite interesting reading. 839 01:24:59,851 --> 01:25:03,601 In connection with the waxing as you mention a task either 840 01:25:03,809 --> 01:25:09,434 if some form of scarring at Therese, on her arm. 841 01:25:09,539 --> 01:25:14,643 Or arms. I do not really remember. Can you expand on that, it's good. 842 01:25:14,747 --> 01:25:18,497 No. I do not know... 843 01:25:20,059 --> 01:25:22,768 A skin condition? 844 01:25:25,893 --> 01:25:30,268 - A blotchy...? - As a blotchy? 845 01:25:30,372 --> 01:25:32,455 And. 846 01:25:32,664 --> 01:25:34,539 But you... 847 01:25:35,580 --> 01:25:40,789 Now I see the expression on your face that evokes a memory. 848 01:25:40,997 --> 01:25:43,809 You're really good, Sture. 849 01:25:44,851 --> 01:25:48,601 Yes. You see, the only leading questions. 850 01:25:51,934 --> 01:25:56,309 But wait, I hope that we mean the same thing with a "blotchy". 851 01:25:56,414 --> 01:25:59,955 Is it that she has a disease? 852 01:26:00,164 --> 01:26:04,955 Or is it a natural patchiness at the moment? 853 01:26:05,164 --> 01:26:09,330 It can be a patchy at the moment. 854 01:26:10,268 --> 01:26:16,205 But it may be something she has. I remember it as a distinct mottling. 855 01:26:16,414 --> 01:26:19,643 Now show you on top of your arm. 856 01:26:19,851 --> 01:26:24,226 - Is that where you see it? - Yes. 857 01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:29,018 And here. Sture's lawyer says thus not a word. 858 01:26:29,226 --> 01:26:32,664 Therese, as I said a blond girl. 859 01:26:34,226 --> 01:26:38,080 She has pink sweatpants. She has large front teeth. 860 01:26:39,226 --> 01:26:42,559 And she goes on the grass when I catch her. 861 01:26:42,664 --> 01:26:45,893 - In the grass? - I see a lot of grass in front of me. 862 01:26:46,101 --> 01:26:49,226 - How do the houses look like? - It is usual house. 863 01:26:49,434 --> 01:26:53,601 - Big house, small...? - Single-family houses, villas and... 864 01:26:55,893 --> 01:27:01,309 Now we have been talking a lot about conscious deviations. 865 01:27:03,914 --> 01:27:08,601 Could it be wrong to just today talking about the girl of appearance 866 01:27:08,809 --> 01:27:10,789 for this reason? 867 01:27:13,393 --> 01:27:14,955 - And. - Mm. 868 01:27:15,164 --> 01:27:17,559 Do you have any comment on the judgment? 869 01:27:17,664 --> 01:27:22,039 The conclusion must be that my client committed the charged offense. 870 01:27:22,247 --> 01:27:26,726 - Are you going to appeal? - There will I take with my client. 871 01:27:26,830 --> 01:27:29,851 But it is hardly likely. 872 01:27:31,205 --> 01:27:36,101 It says one who gets paid with government money to help Sture. 873 01:27:55,789 --> 01:27:58,809 May I ask what your angle is? 874 01:28:00,268 --> 01:28:05,164 From the beginning I had no angle, but I have admit 875 01:28:05,372 --> 01:28:09,851 that the more I read of the investigation, the more skeptical I become. 876 01:28:11,518 --> 01:28:14,851 How much time have you spent on this? 877 01:28:15,059 --> 01:28:18,289 - A few months. - Not full time, then? 878 01:28:18,497 --> 01:28:22,559 Yes. And with some help. 879 01:28:23,705 --> 01:28:25,997 Mhm. 880 01:28:32,559 --> 01:28:34,434 Taxi Stockholm. 881 01:28:44,539 --> 01:28:47,976 Why did Thomas Quick to Therese Johannessen, 882 01:28:48,184 --> 01:28:52,039 had pink sweatpants wearing when she disappeared? 883 01:28:54,539 --> 01:28:58,705 And headbands and... patent leather shoes and... 884 01:29:00,268 --> 01:29:02,351 large front teeth. 885 01:29:08,289 --> 01:29:10,893 Yes... Yes, it... 886 01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:13,289 The... 887 01:29:20,893 --> 01:29:24,434 Excuse me, we... Could we take a break? 888 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,622 - What are you doing? - Sture records. 889 01:29:34,122 --> 01:29:39,018 A pharmacology professor said that someone with such a dose benzodiazepines, 890 01:29:39,226 --> 01:29:44,226 not at all can relate to the world in an effective way. 891 01:29:44,434 --> 01:29:46,205 Bra. 892 01:29:49,955 --> 01:29:54,955 Did you know that Sture Bergwall abused drug medications, 893 01:29:55,164 --> 01:29:59,018 so-called benzodiazepines during the investigation? 894 01:29:59,122 --> 01:30:01,726 I am not speaking about it so. 895 01:30:01,934 --> 01:30:05,268 I know he has an abuse problem behind. 896 01:30:05,476 --> 01:30:09,330 - But not when he was on Sater. - Yes, he had. 897 01:30:09,539 --> 01:30:13,393 On Sater called it the "as-needed medication." 898 01:30:13,497 --> 01:30:17,872 So he could freely browse among all kinds of... 899 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,622 - I do not accept that proposition. - Sorry? 900 01:30:21,726 --> 01:30:24,643 - I do not accept the claim. - You do not accept...? 901 01:30:24,747 --> 01:30:29,539 It is head of the physician. It is not my contention. 902 01:30:29,643 --> 01:30:34,226 - And I do not accept the claim. - No... 903 01:30:34,330 --> 01:30:37,872 A piece of tissue that should not be there. 904 01:30:39,434 --> 01:30:44,747 Okay, we go back to Therese case. You said... 905 01:30:44,851 --> 01:30:49,330 - That he changed his mind. - Exactly. And got more and more right. 906 01:30:49,434 --> 01:30:55,372 But after 20 months, he maintained that Therese had a hair band. 907 01:30:55,476 --> 01:30:58,914 - So it can be sometimes. - It can be so? 908 01:30:59,018 --> 01:31:02,976 - So it can be sometimes. - Okay. 909 01:31:05,997 --> 01:31:11,309 Your former client Thomas Quick has withdrawn all his confessions. 910 01:31:11,518 --> 01:31:15,684 - And now claims that he is innocent. - Yeah. 911 01:31:16,934 --> 01:31:20,164 If you claim that police and psychologists, 912 01:31:20,268 --> 01:31:23,914 rigged and manipulated the courts to convict an innocent, 913 01:31:24,122 --> 01:31:28,497 I say that it has never occurred in Swedish legal history. 914 01:31:28,601 --> 01:31:30,580 No. 915 01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:36,414 And what's to say that he is telling the truth now? 916 01:31:39,955 --> 01:31:42,768 I do not know. It's as if... 917 01:31:44,122 --> 01:31:46,934 We have come too close to each other. Do you understand? 918 01:31:47,143 --> 01:31:50,476 It is as if he has become my best friend or something. 919 01:31:50,580 --> 01:31:54,851 Is that so? Is Sture Bergwall my best friend? 920 01:31:55,059 --> 01:31:57,664 But what the hell, Hannes... 921 01:31:58,809 --> 01:32:03,601 Sure, why not? He wants so much to please. 922 01:32:03,705 --> 01:32:07,664 He wants to be good, he wants to help me, he would... 923 01:32:07,872 --> 01:32:11,726 He wants to fit in where he is, for example, Sater. 924 01:32:11,934 --> 01:32:15,789 He is so incredibly I-weak and easily led. 925 01:32:15,997 --> 01:32:21,414 If through his lawyer says he's guilty then he is well there. 926 01:32:23,289 --> 01:32:26,414 Sadly approach, I think. 927 01:32:26,518 --> 01:32:31,622 Yes, but perhaps it is the truth. Do you remember that? The truth? 928 01:32:34,851 --> 01:32:36,622 Mm. 929 01:32:42,872 --> 01:32:45,268 You seem hesitant. 930 01:32:49,851 --> 01:32:53,005 - I don't know what to believe. - Do you 931 01:32:53,029 --> 01:32:56,205 remember the married couple Stegehuis? 932 01:32:57,872 --> 01:33:02,768 You know the ones... became knife murdered in his tent. 933 01:33:05,059 --> 01:33:06,518 And. 934 01:33:06,622 --> 01:33:09,747 I come from this direction. 935 01:33:12,143 --> 01:33:14,330 There, Jonny takes over. 936 01:33:16,622 --> 01:33:19,643 So I take back the knife. 937 01:33:19,747 --> 01:33:21,934 - Thomas. - Where, then! 938 01:33:22,143 --> 01:33:24,643 - No, no! - Cut it out. 939 01:33:24,747 --> 01:33:26,622 What the hell... 940 01:33:26,830 --> 01:33:30,476 - Help for this now! - Thomas! 941 01:33:30,580 --> 01:33:33,184 - Pull him back! - Thomas! 942 01:33:33,289 --> 01:33:36,518 - Sture came back. - Hold on there. 943 01:33:36,622 --> 01:33:40,580 - Can I talk to Sture? Ellington? - Now we break. 944 01:33:40,684 --> 01:33:44,539 Yes, it was a colossal depression. Really. 945 01:33:54,018 --> 01:33:57,664 It is essential that we optimize conditions, 946 01:33:57,768 --> 01:34:01,518 so that he can access the hidden memories. 947 01:34:01,726 --> 01:34:05,164 Sture, go into feeling how it is to be a murderer. 948 01:34:05,268 --> 01:34:09,643 Feel how it feels to hold the knife and stabbed award. 949 01:34:09,747 --> 01:34:14,434 This way, you can access your memories. Should we try it? 950 01:34:14,643 --> 01:34:19,434 Sture, it may be that you were approaching your tent from anything elsewhere? 951 01:34:20,789 --> 01:34:23,705 Then I would like to say right. 952 01:34:25,372 --> 01:34:28,705 But in the current situation I do think it was left. 953 01:34:28,914 --> 01:34:31,934 - Good, Sture. - Should we try again then? 954 01:34:34,851 --> 01:34:38,184 No, it was a real fucking circus. 955 01:34:39,018 --> 01:34:43,497 In this investigation tolerated not that anyone thought differently. 956 01:34:43,705 --> 01:34:48,393 Then they went out. It was like a fucking sect. 957 01:34:50,476 --> 01:34:54,434 And I still have not told you the worst. Levi. 958 01:34:56,934 --> 01:35:00,580 He was like those found on a forest road in the pipe foundry. 959 01:35:02,143 --> 01:35:07,768 There was another suspect, but the evidence against him, they conjured away. 960 01:35:09,018 --> 01:35:13,289 And at this point is the Israelite then unconscious. 961 01:35:13,393 --> 01:35:17,768 But I still lift him out in this way. 962 01:35:19,955 --> 01:35:24,643 So. And so for safety's sake, pounding my head so... 963 01:35:25,580 --> 01:35:27,455 toward the car. 964 01:35:28,184 --> 01:35:31,622 Jeez, what heavy! So. 965 01:35:33,497 --> 01:35:38,184 And now I would like to know the jack and a stone. 966 01:35:46,205 --> 01:35:47,768 Thanks. 967 01:35:50,789 --> 01:35:55,789 So. And now I have a memory of a knife. 968 01:35:57,351 --> 01:35:59,018 A knife? 969 01:35:59,226 --> 01:36:02,976 As I right now can not be put in context. 970 01:36:03,184 --> 01:36:06,518 Then I take as Jack... there! 971 01:36:07,872 --> 01:36:10,164 He sits up. 972 01:36:10,268 --> 01:36:15,476 And at this stage, I decide when to feed a kick. So! 973 01:36:21,518 --> 01:36:26,934 Now we reset. Completely reset. Now just focus on Yenon Levi. 974 01:36:27,143 --> 01:36:32,768 Feel the nature, scents and rustling leaves... 975 01:36:34,643 --> 01:36:38,289 Do you recognize anything on the ground of vedstruktur or wood? 976 01:36:38,497 --> 01:36:41,726 Yes, yes, yes. Well, now I'm making you so. 977 01:36:44,955 --> 01:36:47,559 It was like... 978 01:36:47,664 --> 01:36:50,580 Or that... 979 01:36:50,789 --> 01:36:56,414 You see something that length basis consistent with that which you... 980 01:36:58,809 --> 01:37:01,622 That was it. So. 981 01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:05,580 It is crystal-clear to me now. 982 01:37:05,684 --> 01:37:08,809 - Can we break now? - Great, Sture. 983 01:37:20,268 --> 01:37:24,226 - How's it going with the bones? - Well, I'm working on it. 984 01:37:24,434 --> 01:37:26,934 - Good. - To you, Jenny. 985 01:37:42,143 --> 01:37:43,809 Oh, shit. 986 01:37:45,684 --> 01:37:47,768 From Sture's sister. 987 01:37:47,872 --> 01:37:49,932 She and Sture was confirmed 988 01:37:49,956 --> 01:37:52,039 the same day that Thomas Blomgren was murdered. 989 01:37:52,247 --> 01:37:54,226 Weekend of Pentecost, in 1964. 990 01:37:54,434 --> 01:38:00,059 Two days folk dance, party, witnesses... photographs. 991 01:38:02,976 --> 01:38:05,580 50 mil from Blomgren. 992 01:38:09,330 --> 01:38:12,247 Stronger alibi is not true. 993 01:38:13,184 --> 01:38:17,664 This, she said to the police, but they never followed up on it. 994 01:38:17,768 --> 01:38:21,101 Well, they followed it up, it was just... 995 01:38:22,976 --> 01:38:28,601 Seppo Penttinen followed it up, but they never found the site. 996 01:38:30,684 --> 01:38:32,664 You? 997 01:38:34,018 --> 01:38:37,143 - What place? - The place where the, uh... 998 01:38:39,955 --> 01:38:42,559 The place where they were... 999 01:38:46,414 --> 01:38:47,976 Eh... 1000 01:38:50,372 --> 01:38:53,497 Ehh... What the hell have I... 1001 01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,101 Sture had just said that... 1002 01:39:01,830 --> 01:39:05,684 He had said that she had hair band and large front teeth. 1003 01:39:05,893 --> 01:39:08,705 - Are you going to die? - We found something. 1004 01:39:08,809 --> 01:39:12,664 - You should have told me. - I told it to him. 1005 01:39:12,768 --> 01:39:16,101 - To whom? - To whom? To whom?! 1006 01:39:37,872 --> 01:39:39,747 - What? - Ehh... 1007 01:40:25,372 --> 01:40:28,184 Why did not you say anything? 1008 01:40:34,226 --> 01:40:36,726 You do things carefully, Hannes. 1009 01:40:40,268 --> 01:40:43,601 When you are working, then bastards are you. 1010 01:40:44,851 --> 01:40:49,747 So when you get cancer, you will not get the crap cancer whatsoever. 1011 01:40:54,747 --> 01:40:56,830 Who knows? 1012 01:40:59,643 --> 01:41:01,622 Family. 1013 01:41:03,289 --> 01:41:08,393 Emma wondering who to go with her to the football now that I will... 1014 01:41:13,289 --> 01:41:17,351 These damn doctors know nothing. They just guessing. 1015 01:41:18,601 --> 01:41:22,351 There are people with my diagnosis, living in three months. 1016 01:41:22,455 --> 01:41:26,726 And then there are those who... will survive until they die a natural death. 1017 01:41:26,934 --> 01:41:30,268 There is no point in speculating about it. 1018 01:41:31,309 --> 01:41:33,809 Help me out of here now. 1019 01:41:54,955 --> 01:41:58,080 When was your life like best, Sture? 1020 01:41:59,434 --> 01:42:03,393 Yes, I would probably say that it was in Grycksbo. 1021 01:42:03,601 --> 01:42:07,872 - Grycksbo years was the best time. - Why? 1022 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:12,247 I was sober for the first time in 15 years. 1023 01:42:12,351 --> 01:42:17,976 I could, for example, celebrate Christmas with my friend Patrick and his family. 1024 01:42:18,393 --> 01:42:22,455 What is this? Amen, a cardigan? 1025 01:42:27,039 --> 01:42:30,580 And the ladies in the bingo hall was very fond of me. 1026 01:42:30,684 --> 01:42:32,455 46.?? Four, six. 1027 01:42:32,664 --> 01:42:35,372 - But it did not end so well? - No. 1028 01:42:37,559 --> 01:42:41,309 Take it easy, Patrick, goddamn it! Take it easy! 1029 01:42:41,414 --> 01:42:45,164 - It ended in a terrible tragedy. - With the robbery? 1030 01:42:45,268 --> 01:42:50,164 Fix the keys to the vault! Go to the bank and get the money! 1031 01:42:50,268 --> 01:42:55,789 I will stay here and I'll kill every one of your family, 1032 01:42:55,997 --> 01:42:58,809 if you come back with money! 1033 01:42:59,018 --> 01:43:01,830 Is that you, Sture? 1034 01:43:03,289 --> 01:43:05,476 Satan the devil! 1035 01:43:07,143 --> 01:43:11,830 - And that's what brought you here? - Yes, it was very stupid. 1036 01:43:13,601 --> 01:43:16,830 Murder Trials, Sture. Can you tell us about the trials? 1037 01:43:17,039 --> 01:43:22,664 It was a nightmare. It was a horrendous period. 1038 01:43:38,601 --> 01:43:42,351 Quick raped by her father from the age of four. 1039 01:43:42,559 --> 01:43:46,414 He was robbed of his childhood, and can not stand the fear. 1040 01:43:46,622 --> 01:43:52,247 He thinks he can ruin a life, thus recreating their own. 1041 01:43:52,872 --> 01:43:57,351 But the relief is short-lived. He has to kill again. 1042 01:43:59,747 --> 01:44:03,914 The difficulty was that the memory images of the killings have been 1043 01:44:04,018 --> 01:44:08,080 fragmentary and that sometimes it took... 1044 01:44:08,289 --> 01:44:12,872 You said earlier that you are attracted Yenon Levi into the car. 1045 01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:17,976 But how could you with your limited language skills to communicate with him? 1046 01:44:18,184 --> 01:44:22,768 For then I Cliff and he speaks excellent English. 1047 01:44:22,872 --> 01:44:25,580 Hello, baby face! 1048 01:44:25,684 --> 01:44:30,997 Early in therapy came Simon incident during a deep regression. 1049 01:44:32,872 --> 01:44:37,143 It was Thomas greatest desire to get back his little brother. 1050 01:44:37,351 --> 01:44:40,372 To "fix Simon", he says. 1051 01:44:44,851 --> 01:44:48,601 The man is a serial killer, pedophile, necrophiliac... 1052 01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:52,976 Johan Asplund's mother. 1053 01:44:53,184 --> 01:44:57,351 We have been able to establish that the burned fragments, 1054 01:44:57,559 --> 01:45:01,622 likely from a man, probably a juvenescent person. 1055 01:45:01,830 --> 01:45:06,101 I fully behind my colleague Professor Helmer in the case. 1056 01:45:18,705 --> 01:45:22,559 - Can we take a break soon? - Soon. 1057 01:45:23,393 --> 01:45:27,351 One thing, Sture, I've been thinking about for a long time... 1058 01:45:27,455 --> 01:45:31,518 What did you do on your home leave in Stockholm? 1059 01:45:31,622 --> 01:45:33,809 Then I went to KB. 1060 01:45:34,018 --> 01:45:37,039 Excuse me. Do you know where the microfilm room is? 1061 01:45:37,247 --> 01:45:41,726 Royal Library in Stockholm. And cranked microfilm. 1062 01:45:43,914 --> 01:45:48,497 - If...? - The murder of Thomas Blomgren course. 1063 01:45:50,789 --> 01:45:54,434 For where I could the strength of my own story. 1064 01:45:54,643 --> 01:45:58,393 By finding photographs of the shed where Thomas killed, 1065 01:45:58,601 --> 01:46:01,830 I could draw them and appear credible. 1066 01:46:02,039 --> 01:46:05,268 It was time-barred and secure and so I could get more benzo. 1067 01:46:05,476 --> 01:46:07,872 - You are welcome. - Thanks. 1068 01:46:07,976 --> 01:46:11,518 I'm thinking about actually being renamed. 1069 01:46:11,622 --> 01:46:13,705 Rename? 1070 01:46:14,643 --> 01:46:17,455 Quick. What do you say about that? 1071 01:46:18,497 --> 01:46:23,393 - It was my mother's maiden name. - Sture... Quick. 1072 01:46:23,497 --> 01:46:26,830 No no. Thomas Quick. 1073 01:46:27,039 --> 01:46:30,268 Thomas? As your first victim? 1074 01:46:32,664 --> 01:46:35,789 In Zelmanovitz case then it was a hunter 1075 01:46:35,893 --> 01:46:41,414 who found the remains of the body. But how could you show the police there? 1076 01:46:41,518 --> 01:46:47,143 I could not, but it was Sven-Åke Christianson as... 1077 01:46:48,393 --> 01:46:52,559 - We trained here on Sater. - Trained? How, then, trained? 1078 01:46:52,664 --> 01:46:57,872 Nine, ten, eleven. Stop! And then you turn to the left. 1079 01:46:58,809 --> 01:47:04,018 Good. Know that you carry on Charles's body. 1080 01:47:04,226 --> 01:47:06,830 One, Two, Three... 1081 01:47:06,934 --> 01:47:10,164 Four, five, six... 1082 01:47:10,268 --> 01:47:12,872 As I understand it, Sture, 1083 01:47:12,976 --> 01:47:17,247 so you had an alibi for Johan Asplund case. 1084 01:47:17,351 --> 01:47:22,351 - How did you get the information? - It was a very talked about case. 1085 01:47:22,559 --> 01:47:25,089 In November 1980, disappeared eleven-year-old 1086 01:47:25,113 --> 01:47:27,664 Johan Asplund from this house. 1087 01:47:27,872 --> 01:47:32,039 In another furlough I fixed a map of Sundsvall. 1088 01:47:32,247 --> 01:47:36,622 Then I also take note of the preliminary investigation before the trial. 1089 01:47:36,726 --> 01:47:40,059 How could you know anything about the clothes? 1090 01:47:40,268 --> 01:47:44,539 It was from a book that I read about the case. 1091 01:47:44,643 --> 01:47:48,809 As I actually got a journalist from Dala-Democrat. 1092 01:47:48,914 --> 01:47:50,580 Old Man Jan? 1093 01:47:52,768 --> 01:47:56,726 - Old Man January Stigson? - So was his name. 1094 01:47:59,018 --> 01:48:03,184 Lars, we break there. Give us two minutes, please. 1095 01:48:12,247 --> 01:48:14,828 What were you thinking, Sture, when the police 1096 01:48:14,852 --> 01:48:17,455 emptied the lake there in Norway? 1097 01:48:17,559 --> 01:48:21,830 I was not thinking so much. I wanted to give the police something to work with. 1098 01:48:21,934 --> 01:48:24,643 They had not found anything. 1099 01:48:24,747 --> 01:48:28,705 And if they then had to empty a lake so maybe they'd be happy. 1100 01:48:28,914 --> 01:48:32,559 - Were they happy then? - If they were, they were very happy. 1101 01:48:32,664 --> 01:48:35,580 They emptied the lake twice. 1102 01:48:35,684 --> 01:48:40,893 That was one of the most costly police operations in Scandinavia ever. 1103 01:48:41,101 --> 01:48:45,372 They pumped up the 35 million liters of water and filtered it. 1104 01:48:46,309 --> 01:48:51,518 They came down to 10000 years old deposits down in the bottom sediment. 1105 01:48:51,622 --> 01:48:55,997 But they found nothing, and then I simply blame loading 1106 01:48:56,205 --> 01:48:59,434 that the reason was conscious deviations. 1107 01:48:59,539 --> 01:49:03,393 And then said that I had fired up Therese. 1108 01:49:06,518 --> 01:49:09,747 When did van der Kwast suddenly something. 1109 01:49:09,851 --> 01:49:15,476 I can tell you that the techniques found bone fragments from the very instead 1110 01:49:16,205 --> 01:49:19,018 which Thomas Quick pekat out. 1111 01:49:22,455 --> 01:49:27,039 There was joy everywhere here in Sater and I got lot of medicines. 1112 01:49:27,247 --> 01:49:31,622 And how do you explain where the burnt bones were then? 1113 01:49:40,372 --> 01:49:43,184 Yes, I can not. 1114 01:49:47,455 --> 01:49:49,226 No. 1115 01:49:53,497 --> 01:49:57,664 Sture, your new lawyer's good. He is really good. 1116 01:49:58,914 --> 01:50:02,247 He has submitted an application for revision now. 1117 01:50:02,455 --> 01:50:06,205 - How it goes with it, nobody knows. - That's really good! 1118 01:50:06,309 --> 01:50:11,830 I am so incredibly grateful. I want you to help him. 1119 01:50:12,039 --> 01:50:14,955 One more thing, Sture. I am sick. 1120 01:50:16,414 --> 01:50:20,893 I have cancer. In the pancreas, so... 1121 01:50:25,789 --> 01:50:29,955 So you and I will just have to hope for the best. 1122 01:50:34,018 --> 01:50:38,080 But... what are you saying? 1123 01:51:10,268 --> 01:51:13,184 I wrote a letter to Thomas Quick. 1124 01:51:13,289 --> 01:51:17,351 Although he talked with journalists in years. 1125 01:51:17,559 --> 01:51:21,518 How can it be that you are in investigation time... 1126 01:51:21,622 --> 01:51:25,580 Allow Quick clearance and parole... 1127 01:51:25,789 --> 01:51:29,226 even though he was suspected of murdering several juvenescent boys? 1128 01:51:29,434 --> 01:51:32,455 Clearly you can not find it understandable. 1129 01:51:32,664 --> 01:51:36,726 But the question is in the ground if it is correct. 1130 01:51:36,934 --> 01:51:41,726 Are there any other aspects of the topic? It is what it is. 1131 01:51:45,580 --> 01:51:48,601 Remember that you are interested in 1132 01:51:48,809 --> 01:51:52,455 what Sture Bergwall made their parole? 1133 01:51:52,559 --> 01:51:54,330 I do not remember. 1134 01:51:54,434 --> 01:51:58,497 If I say that he was sitting at a library in Stockholm. 1135 01:51:58,601 --> 01:52:02,768 - In the newspaper division. - Yeah. And read what? 1136 01:52:02,976 --> 01:52:05,997 If Thomas Blomgren, among others. 1137 01:52:07,143 --> 01:52:11,622 He sat there and locked himself in the murder of Thomas Blomgren. 1138 01:52:17,039 --> 01:52:21,726 It is so Sture Bergwall has withdrawn its recognition. 1139 01:52:21,934 --> 01:52:24,643 Well. Then he well do it then. 1140 01:52:29,018 --> 01:52:33,497 It was a surprising news to me. 1141 01:52:35,059 --> 01:52:38,914 - He would not have done anything? - No. 1142 01:52:39,018 --> 01:52:42,559 Anyone who can prove it has found the world's largest SCOOP... 1143 01:52:42,664 --> 01:52:45,789 When it comes to manipulating justice. 1144 01:52:45,997 --> 01:52:50,580 Obviously, I say without trembling voice, that it is not. 1145 01:52:50,684 --> 01:52:53,497 Now it is 2008. He sits there. 1146 01:52:53,601 --> 01:52:58,705 He will never be released, whether he is claiming the revision or not. 1147 01:52:59,747 --> 01:53:05,372 I have not committed any of the murders I am found guilty of. 1148 01:53:05,476 --> 01:53:09,643 And not a few of the others I recognized either. 1149 01:53:09,747 --> 01:53:11,830 That's how it is. 1150 01:53:38,601 --> 01:53:42,351 Thomas Quick, one of our worst mass killer, 1151 01:53:42,559 --> 01:53:45,580 or perhaps one of our greatest legal scandals. 1152 01:53:45,684 --> 01:53:49,643 It is not established that there was a legal scandal. 1153 01:53:49,747 --> 01:53:55,164 It is the prelude to the greatest scandal in Swedish legal history. 1154 01:53:55,372 --> 01:53:59,955 Eight murder erroneous judgments. It is unique in our legal history. 1155 01:54:04,955 --> 01:54:09,434 - What's your comment? - Is there a legal scandal, Chris? 1156 01:54:09,643 --> 01:54:12,872 Did you know that Bergenwall recanted their confessions? 1157 01:54:12,976 --> 01:54:16,934 I, like everyone else, saw Hannes Rastam documentary last night. 1158 01:54:17,143 --> 01:54:21,309 And the chief prosecutor in the Quick Inquiry I must say 1159 01:54:21,518 --> 01:54:24,955 that it is... cleverly made. 1160 01:54:27,247 --> 01:54:30,893 But unfortunately it does not tell the truth. 1161 01:54:32,872 --> 01:54:36,622 Thomas Quick, now Sture Bergwall 1162 01:54:36,726 --> 01:54:39,330 is not wrongly convicted. 1163 01:54:39,539 --> 01:54:44,226 No legal scandal occurred. Evidence against Bergenwall are solid. 1164 01:54:44,434 --> 01:54:49,226 It is enough to point to the remains, the bones after Therese Johannessen. 1165 01:54:49,434 --> 01:54:53,601 Where medical expertise, not I 1166 01:54:53,809 --> 01:54:58,497 held beyond a reasonable doubt that they are genuine. 1167 01:55:01,622 --> 01:55:07,039 Time will give me the right. Thanks so much. Thanks. 1168 01:55:26,205 --> 01:55:29,955 - Rock, Paper, Scissors. - Rock, Paper, Scissors. 1169 01:55:31,414 --> 01:55:33,914 Rock, Paper, Scissors. 1170 01:55:34,122 --> 01:55:37,768 - Rock, Paper, Scissors. - Rock, Paper, Scissors. Gosh! 1171 01:55:37,872 --> 01:55:41,622 - Rock, Paper, Scissors. - Rock, Paper, Scissors. A last time. 1172 01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:45,476 - Rock, Paper, Scissors. - Rock, Paper, Scissors. 1173 01:55:48,809 --> 01:55:51,622 Molly's father is also dead. 1174 01:55:54,122 --> 01:55:57,455 Though she notice it only on Saturdays. 1175 01:55:59,330 --> 01:56:04,747 So... Now I am still not quite dead yet, right? 1176 01:56:05,684 --> 01:56:08,393 They used to be with each other. 1177 01:56:08,601 --> 01:56:12,351 They watched movies and ate sweets and drank soda. 1178 01:56:13,289 --> 01:56:16,101 But now do not go there anymore. 1179 01:56:20,372 --> 01:56:25,580 But, you... Molly might be able to do it with her mother instead. 1180 01:56:27,351 --> 01:56:30,684 She is boring. 1181 01:56:30,789 --> 01:56:32,872 Not like you, then, mother. 1182 01:56:34,643 --> 01:56:37,976 Ouch. Well, then it's not easy. 1183 01:56:59,434 --> 01:57:01,622 Hey, it's Jenny. 1184 01:57:04,018 --> 01:57:05,789 When then? 1185 01:57:11,830 --> 01:57:15,997 The experts said that this was the bones of a child, 1186 01:57:16,205 --> 01:57:19,851 can only have looked and guessed. 1187 01:57:23,184 --> 01:57:24,955 What is it then? 1188 01:57:55,059 --> 01:57:59,122 - How is it going? - I think they will win. 1189 01:58:27,664 --> 01:58:29,851 Good work. 1190 01:58:38,914 --> 01:58:41,414 And how are you then? 1191 01:58:44,018 --> 01:58:46,205 Today I feel fine. 1192 01:58:49,851 --> 01:58:52,455 Are you working with something exciting? 1193 01:58:54,226 --> 01:58:58,393 - It is well done. - Can I read? 1194 01:59:00,476 --> 01:59:03,809 You get to read when I'm finished. 1195 01:59:05,164 --> 01:59:07,664 You must hurry. 1196 01:59:30,164 --> 01:59:35,789 I see how the candles burn out. 1197 01:59:40,059 --> 01:59:45,684 I see how every life comes to an end 1198 01:59:49,643 --> 01:59:53,289 the radiating flares 1199 01:59:54,851 --> 01:59:58,289 who called us 1200 01:59:59,851 --> 02:00:02,455 ends 1201 02:00:02,664 --> 02:00:06,309 they burn all out. 1202 02:00:09,851 --> 02:00:15,476 I see how life drains away 1203 02:00:19,955 --> 02:00:25,580 the time is always too short 1204 02:00:29,539 --> 02:00:33,393 the endless path 1205 02:00:34,955 --> 02:00:38,601 who would become my life 1206 02:00:39,851 --> 02:00:42,247 ends 1207 02:00:42,351 --> 02:00:46,309 will also come to an end. 1208 02:02:35,268 --> 02:02:38,601 - Thank you, Anette. - Good luck now. 1209 02:02:39,434 --> 02:02:42,143 - Hello. - Hello. And your name is...? 1210 02:02:42,351 --> 02:02:44,747 - Conrad. - With C or K? 1211 02:02:44,955 --> 02:02:47,351 - C, please. - With C. 1212 02:02:49,122 --> 02:02:52,664 Yes, come, little man. Yes. 1213 02:02:54,122 --> 02:02:56,830 No, Seppo, not there. 1214 02:11:05,164 --> 02:11:08,705 Subs: NKMD ROADS