[Shaun] Previously on "90 Day Fiancé: The Other Way,"
The Couples Tell All....
Pattiya, are you adjusting better to Tasmania?
Uh, well...
I'm not there anymore.
[tense music playing]
How soon after that breakup did you two see each other?
-Did you guys have sex? -We did, yes.
Ooh.
-Oh. -Who's bed were you sleeping?
-[Jenny] Chloe, why? -Jenny.
Well, I think Chloe's a catch, bro, and you done [bleep] up.
I second that.
[Madelein speaking]
-Oh, he was, really? -[Greta] Yeah.
-[Chloe] Did you get the vibe? -[Greta] I got the vibe.
Manon, does Anthony still make you want to, quote,
"Die inside?" -Sometimes, yes.
Wow, my God.
Just sometimes the way you sort of push him
around and treat him,
it's like you don't fully love him.
[Johny] Like the way you're talking over him, the way you're like
trying to control him.
OK, guys, I treat my husband bad then.
I'm a bad woman, I'm a villain.
But he'd never stand up for me, period.
[Greta] Oh, she's leaving.
[Greta speaking]
-How are you? -Yeah, been better.
-She said that me and her are done, so... -Oh.
[Anthony] She takes everything very personally...
I have heard "divorce" so many times.
You know, I can only take so much when it comes to that.
It's almost like the boy who cried wolf.
At some point, when is it enough?
Where I just say, "OK, well,
you're gonna keep threatening this, then fine."
Honestly, I don't feel like she tries to meet
in the middle, and it's a vicious cycle.
That's why I'm trying to, like,
see what's best for me and for Ben.
I'm almost, like, I don't wanna say, like,
dreaming or fantasizing, but really logically thinking
about what my options are.
It's definitely nice to have
the support of everyone, honestly.
Her and me are very similar.
I'm quite an insecure person or, like, have been
in the past.
Because you're constantly thinking about
yourself and, like, how other people are responding to you,
[Anthony] Yeah.
From one relationship to another, that's, like,
a little on the more toxic side of the spectrum.
Like, finalities is what they do, right?
Yeah.
[Greta] Hey, look.
What brought me back right now, I wanna show people
once again that I can open my mouth without putting
my emotion out there.
The truth is that I'm going through a lot of [bleep].
I let them just, like, throw [bleep] rocks at me.
[Luke] I mean, honestly, bro, like, if I were you,
I'd go in there and say, "No." -This is why you're trapped
in your relationship right now. Don't you see the patterns?
Anthony and Manon are very unhappy with each other.
I don't think people should be together
just 'cause they have a kid together.
There's clearly so much tension between them.
I just think it's, like, the best outcome for them
if they just parted ways.
I don't know.
I don't know where it goes from here.
[Manon and producer speaking]
[tense music playing]
-[Jenny] How you doing, Anthony? -[Anthony] Doing OK.
I wanna say A for effort.
Like, I loved your -- the stripping
and the sex dungeon, man. -Dude, that pole is hard, man.
-[Luke] Yeah. -Are you guys talking about stripping?
Oh, here, let me sit in between you.
[Luke] Yeah.
How did he do?
-One to -- one to ten. -I would rate you a...
hmm, seven. -Seven?
-Yeah. -Oh, wow.
[Manon speaking]
I wanna teach you some moves.
Are you -- are we game?
-[Luke] Alright, show me. -Come on.
-I need you guys to get up. -Oh, wait.
-Whoo! -[Pattiya] No, no, no.
-You guys have to get up. -Oh, goodness.
You're gonna bend your knee a little bit.
And you're gonna do the figure eight.
-[sensual music playing] -[all cheer]
Wait.
Eight, like you're making an eight.
[Anthony] I'm trying the eight.
[Pattiya] Bend your knees a little bit.
No, no. Figure eight.
[Anthony] I'm trying.
Let's go.
[Jenny laughs]
You got it. Keep going.
There you go.
Good job, guys. Good job.
-[Shaun] Manon, hello. -[Manon] Hi.
[Shaun] Welcome back.
[Manon] Sorry.
[Shaun] You feeling up to continue?
[Manon] Yes, of course.
Thank you so much.
When I was outside, unconsciously I was expecting
him to open the door and be like, "Come here, honey.
I love you, I apologize for what I said."
But no, he's scared of talking to me.
Why having a husband
if he doesn't act like one.
Why?
Of course I'm gonna be like, "I want a divorce
if you act this way." What do you expect?"
[Anthony] That is not true.
I don't wanna have any more arguments.
[Manon speaking]
I don't know, I feel like those words themselves, like,
"I let you speak... "
-Yeah? -...speak for themselves as well.
[Anthony] In the way you're saying it, like, "I let you speak."
[Manon exhales]
[producer] Here we go, guys, quiet please.
Five, four, three, two.
Now it is time to focus on Luke and Madelein.
Luke and Madelein's engagement was nearly derailed
by constant conflict.
Has marriage solved their problems
or have new issues arisen?
Let's find out.
Luke and Madelein, here we go, are you ready?
-Ready. -[Shaun] OK, good.
[laughs] OK.
First of all, I wanna know, how are the dogs doing?
What -- wait, what?
[Anthony laughing] Poopies.
[Shaun] Are you ready to be poopy parents?
[Manon] Oh, my God!
Yes, but it's a bigger, huge responsibility
to have five dogs. -[Luke] Yeah.
[Shaun] Here we have a picture. Let's take a look.
-[all] Aw. -Oh, my God!
-[all] Aw. -Oh, cute.
[Shaun] Very cute, very cute. OK.
So Luke, let's get down to the serious stuff.
You are no longer living in Colombia.
What happened there?
Um, things didn't quite go as planned.
I need money, so I am back in the States working.
What happened? What went down?
I thought that I would be getting some money
from a friend and finishing the land purchase
and starting the hotel.
And that didn't happen, as I thought.
So, yeah, I'm back here.
[Shaun] So you are still together?
[Madelein] Yeah...
What is it like being back in a long-distance relationship?
I don't like it. I think it's tough.
Um, I would never wish it upon anybody else.
[Shaun] So is the plan to have
Madelein come here to the States?
-So I have an update. -We have a surprise.
[Shaun] Uh-oh. Spill the tea.
Whoo! There we go!
Yes! Whoa, congratulations!
-[clapping] -Yep.
How does that work, getting a K-1 with a marriage?
So prior to our wedding, we applied for the K-1,
but we didn't hear back, and we both got tired
of the distance. So I moved to Colombia.
We went forward with the wedding,
but right after the wedding, we got word that
they received the application.
So before we filed the paperwork to make it
legally binding in Colombia... -[Shaun] Yes.
...we just decided to go with the K-1 visa process.
While we both want to move to Colombia,
the plan for now is to be in the States.
So you are gonna move back to Colombia?
-[Luke] Eventually. -[Shaun] Wow, OK.
So do you consider yourselves husband and wife?
Yes.
-Yeah. -Yes, we do.
But why aren't you wearing your wedding ring?
Because she lost her wedding rings
and asked me to bring my wedding ring to Colombia
so that she could make two wedding bands
from these diamonds in my wedding ring.
OK, Madelein, first of all,
what happened to your wedding rings?
Well, that's funny, because you told me that
you put it in your pocket when you went to the gym...
and lost it there.
So this is a different story that I heard.
Nobody knows what's going on right now.
I think I might know what happened.
I reckon she went and bloody pawned them.
-[Shaun] Oh. -I didn't wanna say it.
No, I don't need to.
[speaking Spanish]
[laughing]
Have you ever wondered if she sold the rings?
I mean, when I first heard about it,
she was bawling her eyes out at her house.
I said, "Where was the last time you had it?"
She said, "In the car." I'm like,
"Well, then if what you're saying is true,
it's in the car. Go look in the car."
-Have you seen it since? -[Luke] No.
But have you seen, like, proof of life of your ring?
No.
[Shaun] So Madelein lost her ring
and took yours to make two new rings for the both of you?
Yeah.
[Shaun] Alright, well,
we wanna hear from more than just Luke and Madelein.
So we invited one of Luke's friends who was not shy
with his reservations about their relationship.
Please welcome Luke's friend Brian.
What's up, Brian? How you doing?
Hey, Luke. How's it going?
Tell us, Brian, how you feel about Madelein in general.
Me and Madelein were friends before she met Luke,
but we kind of had a falling out because
of their relationship. It was very, like, toxic.
Madelein, we're gonna need to let him talk.
-Ooh! -Damn!
I'm not saying...
Can he speak?
Just let him finish so we honestly can listen,
because all I'm hearing is your mouth.
-Oh, my God. -Like, one and a half year ago.
Oh, wow.
You're gonna go drink with him and come home drunk.
I'm his wife.
Careful.
I'm not here to have Luke pick me over Madelein,
and I'm not here to talk bad about Madelein either.
I don't see either of them happy so it's just like signaling
the obvious to try to make one of them wake up.
I -- I don't know why they're with each other.
[Shaun] OK.
Madelein knew Luke had been chatting up another woman
before he came to Colombia, but after his arrival,
she learned about another incident that really caused her
to lose her cool. Take a look.
-♪ I call them shots, shots ♪ -[Luke] Knock, knock.
[David] Oh, [bleep], finally.
What's up, bro?
[Luke] My people, my people -- guys, what the [bleep] is this, man?
You guys trying to get me in trouble or what?
[woman] Hi.
-[David] Hi, how you doing? -[woman] Good...
What the [bleep], guys?
Surprise! Before you leave.
-Oh, man, I don't know. -Go put the crown on Luke.
[woman] Yeah, we gotta put the crown on him.
Don't be shy.
[Luke speaking]
Nothing?
[hip-hop music playing]
♪ Hey ♪
Remember when I had said,
I went to, I was going to David's house?
The week that you don't respond to me?
Basically, like, they -- they threw,
like, a small little bachelor party for me.
Small, little?
A stripper came over.
I didn't touch her. I mean, I didn't --
[grunts]
[bleep]
Whoa, OK, um.
Madelein, how do you feel looking at that?
I'd like to ask our other couples here.
-Do you think that Madelein overreacted? -[Chloe] Yes.
-[Shaun] When she found out? -[Pattiya] Yeah.
-Yeah. -[Shaun] You do?
100%, I mean, I feel like we're a little mature
to be throwing cake. Did that fix the problem?
No.
[Anthony] And I think she's not fair in the way she treats him,
where she can treat him like [bleep] and then if he says anything,
she just takes it like way too personally.
I think there's like a double standard there
and a lot of hypocrisy for sure.
So Madelein, now that you see how Luke reacted
when the bachelor party was going on,
do you feel differently?
[Madelein] No!
You think Luke should have left the room?
Uh, Matthew, would you have left the room?
Yeah, absolutely. And I think my friends
would know me well enough to not do that anyway.
At least there was only one, right?
I mean, there could have been a lot more, so...
[Anthony] Gotta tread carefully.
That was a half joke, but, I mean,
it's a bachelor party, OK? And I didn't plan it.
This is my biggest problem with you.
I'm not saying...
This might be controversial, but if I had a partner
and, like, one night a stripper was on top of him,
like, if it was a healthy relationship,
I just would be like, we would just easily
be able to move on... -[Madelein] See, that one is you --
...it wouldn't become such a big issue. -[Manon] That's your opinion,
but she has another opinion. Good for you.
But she doesn't like that.
She doesn't like that.
I mean, we're supposed to be expressing our opinions.
-Yeah. -[Pattiya] Wait a minute, Madelein.
What if it's your friend doing it to spite your relationship,
being that you guys don't get along?
-Who is my friend? -Oh, Brian.
He's not my friend. I hate him.
He's not my friend.
What if Brian did this to piss you off so that you guys would
fight and break up? -[Madelein] Of course.
So Brian, did you do this on purpose?
I -- I wasn't involved in -- in calling the stripper.
[Shaun] Did you know the dancer was gonna be there?
Yeah -- yeah, I did know
that it was gonna, it was gonna be there, yeah.
Did -- did you think that was gonna be a bad situation
for Luke afterwards?
I really actually just wanted, like, take care of Luke,
you know, when I actually saw Luke that, like, that weekend.
I still think, I mean, Brian and I talk, and I think
that he's gonna pay me back, and he's working on it
right now. -Right, OK.
I think Madelein's about to spontaneously combust
right now. -[Luke] Yeah.
Luke, what happened with Brian and this money?
What's the situation?
I had worked with Brian on a gold business and...
-Can he speak? I'm just -- I'm sorry. -No.
Can he just finish one -- one sentence?
One sentence.
God, please, I have a [bleep] headache.
Honest to God.
[speaking Spanish]
Just let him finish so we honestly can listen,
because all I'm hearing is your mouth.
Just let him finish.
Um, I was a little cash poor at the time, so we took out
money against my investment rental property in Colombia.
And unfortunately, it didn't seem to have worked out as planned.
How much money does Brian owe you?
North of $150,000.
-Oh, what? -[all] Oh!
$150,000.
Madelein, first of all, Madelein...
That's a lot of money, man.
That's a lot of money.
150K, bro, that's like you're a millionaire
in Colombia for sure, man.
It was a huge loss for everybody, not just Luke,
not just me.
In total, what was lost was $2.1 million.
-Jesus Christ. -US dollar?
[Brian speaking]
Like, I was kidnapped with a group of people
and got tied up.
-Ooh. -[Manon] Oh, my God.
For real?
That's not at all what happened.
[Shaun] Luke, do you think you'll ever get this money back from Brian?
-Yes. -[Brian] 100%.
There's no, there's no, like, there's no ifs, ands, or buts.
Like, like, that's gotta happen.
I value friendships.
Like, I still talk with Brian.
Madelein, you didn't know that Luke and Brian were
still friends?
Well, first of all, is Brian still your friend?
I love Brian, and I...
[Shaun] Oh, boy.
[Manon] We used to say that we're gonna go
through anything together.
[Anthony] We have to think about what it is
we both really want,
where we're going. -So you don't wanna be married anymore?
[Anthony] I don't know.
For real, you're gonna say that to me?
-[Luke] I mean, we -- -[Madelein] Tell me, because...
You wouldn't know what he thinks
if you keep interrupting him. Let him speak.
-God. -[Luke] I mean, I did what I did
'cause I had hoped to be able to live a very cool
and different dream life, which is why
I -- I took everything that I had and tried to go into business
with Brian to give me a chance at that opportunity.
And it's really difficult for me to navigate this type
of situation because...
[Luke] I didn't.
It -- it took a while for --
it took a while for him to tell me what had happened
because of all of this...
stuff, you know, like, we weren't talking as regularly.
OK, so Luke,
it sounds like Madelein just broke up with you,
but you're not responding to that.
Is that something you're not concerned about
or what? -Are you just used to that?
Are you just used to her doing that?
I really think there's a lot going on here.
-So I don't know where to start. -[Shaun] OK.
So maybe tomorrow you feel a different way.
Because it...
Well, then don't.
I think when something doesn't go your way,
it's your way or the highway, and it's whatever you want.
So you're gonna manipulate or just say whatever you want
to try and get the situation that you want to be the outcome.
First of all, it was my money.
So let's make that clear.
[Shaun] So I just wanna be clear.
Luke, are you and Madelein still together?
-Yes. -[Shaun] Yes.
Hey, Luke, get out of there, man.
Get out of there, Luke,
get out of there, bro. -[Shaun] Madelein, yes or no,
are you and Luke still together?
[all laugh]
[Luke] Then I was wrong, no.
I guess the answer is no. -Aye-yi-yi.
Brian, it has been great having you share your thoughts
about Luke and Madelein.
Thank you so much for joining us.
-Take care. -Thank you, Brian.
-See you, man. -See you, guys.
[Shaun] Luke and Madelein, thank you for allowing us
to join you on this journey. It's been a wild one.
It sounds like you two still have a lot of issues.
We wish you the very best in figuring everything out.
Thank you.
Alright, everybody, we're gonna take a quick break.
Have a good day. It was nice meeting you, Shaun.
-[Shaun] Thank you, Manon. -[Manon] Have a good day.
I just cannot anymore.
Good?
I don't know. I don't know how I feel.
I don't know how I feel about that [bleep].
-[Greta] You're now a single man, huh? -I -- I don't know, am I?
I guess gotta hit, you gotta go hit --
-Yeah, you got -- -Go out tonight in New York, hit the town.
Like, I don't know.
[Manon] 'Cause now he thinks he has friends.
And not a single time he comes and stays with me.
I mean, like, I have no idea why you're still
in this relationship, I'm gonna be honest.
-[Chloe] No, he's single now, I heard. -Yeah, he's single.
I -- yeah, I mean, I think,
I think if she ended it, just be like,
OK, she ended it. Accept it.
I think you should be single. Being single is so fun.
[Greta] I know, I love -- that's what I was saying.
-I love being single. -[Chloe] I actually love being single.
Yeah, it's been a great -- it's been a great year.
Maybe not forever, but, like, maybe when I'm 70,
men will figure it out. I'll probably figure it out.
But for now, I think you should just call it quits.
There's, like, so many great people out there to experience.
-Like, you know? -[Chloe] That aren't gonna throw cake at you.
Yeah.
-A breakthrough. -Yeah.
No, I mean, he said this.
This is what shocked me.
I was like, "He's aware of this."
Alright. Yes or no?
Just yes or no? Are you single?
Yes or no?
-Yeah. -[Greta laughs]
[Chloe] Breakthrough. We should go out.
-Single era. -[Luke] Let's do it.
-I'm going. -Tonight?
-Tonight. -Come on.
-Put your hand in now. -I'm like a maybe.
I don't -- I don't really go out.
We can go, like, read books or something.
-One, two, three. -[Greta] I'm too much of a nerd.
Single life!
-[producer] I'll be outside, OK? -[Manon] Mm-hmm.
I just cannot. I just don't -- I have
nothing in me. -[Anthony] And what is it that I did?
[Manon] You just don't want me anymore, and I wanna [bleep] cry.
I wanna [bleep] crawl and cry because my husband
doesn't love me anymore.
It's so heartbreaking.
[Anthony] I understand that it's heartbreaking,
but I just -- it's so hard for me
to be seeing solutions to this.
Yeah, 'cause it's hard for me to see solutions
to where we're going. -So you don't wanna be married anymore?
[Anthony] I don't know.
For real, you're gonna say that to me?
I thought this would be a fun adventure, but I'm out.
That's not -- it's [bleep] ruining us.
And you let it ruining us.
[Anthony] I don't think that this experience is ruining us.
-Exactly. -[Anthony] I think that it's --
You don't think anything how I think.
[Anthony] Like, this is our life.
We have to think about what it is we both really want.
Can you try to remember all of the good things instead
of always seeing the bad thing that I'm doing?
We used to say that we're gonna go through anything together.
[Chloe] I don't know what happened.
She seemed fine
when we were talking about that last segment.
[Chloe] She was quiet, but she did, she seemed OK.
Maybe Anthony was fending
for Luke too much, and she was like...
-I think it's... -And it dawned on him.
-It was my fault. -Always.
-No. -[Luke] OK.
No, he was really standing up for you.
-I think that's why. -[Pattiya] Yeah.
-That she got upset. -[Pattiya] Yeah, I think she got upset.
[Manon] You know what I would love right now?
Do you want me to tell you?
I wanna be in the bed naked with you
and just feeling you and just breathing,
and just if I wanna cry, I'll cry.
If I wanna just hug, I'll hug.
Nothing else.
Because I really [bleep] miss you.
-It's not like a sexual thing? -[Manon] No, not sexual.
I'm not asking about having sex.
You know me, my libido is down to zero anyway.
It's just being us.
A hug.
I think we need to talk more than anything.
-Not just... -[Manon] OK, we can talk.
Sure.
So if you want to get out of here, then...
I will go with you, and we can talk to each other.
I'll shut the [bleep] up,
and I'll prove it to you that I can change.
Hearing about, like, other people's lives
while -- while mine is spiraling,
it's not that I don't care about them,
but it's just, why am I doing here?
I'm -- you know?
And every single time I turn and look at him, I just,
like, "What are we doing? I miss him."
-[Greta] Hey, guys. -[Anthony] Hey.
We're gonna go. We're gonna
talk things out. -[Manon] It's just too much.
-I'm sorry I cut you off. -I wish you all the best.
I hope you guys both find peace and happiness.
[Luke] Safe travels. Best of luck.
I feel like I'm getting a lot of disdain for what I had
to say from my wife.
But those aren't words that I was using as an attack.
Those are words I was using to express how I felt.
So we clearly have a lot to work on
when it comes to communication.
Thank you.
[Anthony] As much as I wanted to stay,
I feel like if I had stayed and Manon had left,
then it kind of was nail in the coffin.
I'm not ready for that yet.
I'll take that. It's fine.
-It's OK. -I can do it.
[Anthony] I got this one and the big one.
[Manon] Thank you.
I just wanna go back to the main thing that will make
me happy, used to make me happy, and that's worth
fighting for, and it's my marriage and my son.
The last we saw you, you two had a huge argument.
That was heartbreaking.
I let my emotions get the better of me.
Are you still engaged?
[tense music playing]
[Pattiya] I love that outfit.
-That's my kind of style. -[Shaun] Thank you.
Manon's shoes are still here?
I think they left for good. [scoffs]
[producer] Alright, copy that. Here we go.
Five, four, three, two.
And we are back.
Before we move on to our next couple,
I just have to say that Anthony and Manon are not with us.
Uh, does anybody know where they went?
She wants to go home.
They wanted to leave, go talk, and work it out.
She was pleading for Anthony to not leave her.
-Yeah. -[Pattiya] She's like,
"I love you. Let's try to make things work."
I think she had a rude awakening here,
and so did Anthony.
We heard the D word. They were teeter-tottering
on whether or not they were gonna make it work.
-[Pattiya] That was shocking. -Wow.
She was pleading for him to not leave.
We know they have a lot of issues going on between them,
but hopefully things will work out
for the best, whatever that is.
But right now, we've gotta move on.
OK, so it is time to put Pattiya and Dylan
in the hot seat.
It took 12 years and Pattiya moving from Texas to Tasmania
for Dylan to finally pop the question.
But some long-simmering issues may have thrown
their future into question.
Pattiya and Dylan, how are you feeling?
Great.
-Nervous. -[Shaun] Yeah.
Well, you know, the last we saw you, you two had
a huge argument.
Dylan accused Pattiya of something that nearly caused
her to walk out on their relationship for good.
Take a look.
[Pattiya] I don't like it when you boss me around.
If I had control, you wouldn't be working
in a frickin' strip club.
I don't know who you're with
or what time you're out till four, five,
six in the morning with different guys.
What are you talking about with different guys?
You're going out with different guys after work.
If you don't trust me, why are you even with me?
-I do, I do trust you, love. -[Pattiya] No, you don't.
You're saying I go out with different guys every night.
Well, because I know you're with them at the club.
And then afterwards, sometimes you go back to the hotels.
You're [bleep] lying about this stuff, you're making things up.
You lied to me for years about what goes on
in that club, Pattiya. -So why are you even with me?
-'Cause you're not telling me the truth, love. -I am telling you the truth.
-Oh, my God. -[Dylan] And I'm not stupid, love.
[Pattiya] I can't be with somebody like you.
-OK. -That was heartbreaking, man.
Very sad.
[Shaun] Dylan, do you still think
that Pattiya ever acts inappropriately
with any of the clients that she dances for?
[Dylan] No, I don't think that.
I am in that industry, too, and I struggle with it more
than what Pattiya does.
I think sometimes my imagination sort of runs wild
and to think about, you know, Pattiya in the VIP room.
with another guy and the thought of him
trying to cross the line with her...
it's just tough.
I struggle with it.
I love that woman.
I don't -- I don't want anyone else touching her.
But I shouldn't have had that conversation with her
in the middle of the gym.
It wasn't coming from a place of truth.
I apologize, Pattiya. I'm sorry.
[Shaun] OK, well, it's good to see you two were able to move forward
after that big fight.
But tell us, are you are you still engaged?
-Yes. -[Shaun] You are?
-OK. -Absolutely, 100%.
-[Shaun] Congratulations. -But I don't have my ring on.
-I forgot it. -[Shaun] Oh, my goodness.
I was in a rush.
[Shaun] But we found out earlier that you two are no longer living
in the same country. Pattiya, where are you?
-I'm back in Texas. -[Shaun] Oh, my gosh.
-[Pattiya] Yeah. -[Shaun] OK.
Tell us what happened.
I decided living in a small town with his mom being,
like, minutes away was not gonna work for us.
I would have loved if Pattiya loved, you know,
the simple life, the country life.
She needs those malls. She needs a bit of nightlife.
But I can't breathe without her,
so I have some other plans.
-I'll be in the States in a couple of weeks. -[Chloe] Oh, wow.
-[Jenny] Yeah. -[Dylan] And, um, yeah...
So while I'm there, Pattiya and I are gonna be
working on the K-1 visa. -Wow, that is some big news.
-Yeah. -[Shaun] Really big news.
Wow.
Pattiya will be a lot happier in the States.
-Right? -[Dylan] Yeah, yeah.
Definitely, Yeah, definitely.
-You've outgrown that town. -[Shaun] Well, OK.
It seems like you're doing most of the talking
for Dylan, Pattiya. -I'm sorry.
I wanna know how Dylan feels about this move.
We heard Pattiya say she didn't like living so close
to your mom. How do you feel about that?
Pattiya blames a lot of the issues on our relationship
just on my mom, and I feel that's not fair.
Dylan, on a scale from one to ten, how would you rate
the relationship between Pattiya and your mother today?
Probably minus 10.
-[Shaun] Oh, my gosh. [Dylan] It's just non-existent, really.
-Yeah, it's non-existent. -[Shaun] Minus 10?
I'd say so, it's pretty --
pretty chilly. -Yikes -- [sighs] -- OK.
We wanna try to better understand what exactly is
going on with Pattiya and her future mother-in-law.
Let's welcome Dylan's mom, Jo.
Hi, Jo.
-Hi. -Hi, mom.
-You're looking good. -Thank you.
-Pattiya, you want to say hi to -- -Hi, Jo.
-Thank you for being here. -[Jo] Hi, Pattiya.
-Thank you. -OK.
That was -- was nice.
-OK. -This is what it's like, see?
This is what it's like when they're together.
They're best buds.
And then behind closed doors Pattiya is just like,
-[Shaun] Oh! -[Dylan] Yeah.
Your mom, too, not just Pattiya.
Well, I think my mom, she just wants to be,
you know, in our lives in -- in a positive way.
She doesn't have any sort of ill will.
Wait a minute, wait a minute. Rewind, rewind, rewind.
Jo, be honest.
You never approved of our relationship due
to the age difference.
-You never wanted Dylan to be with me. -I never...
Can I speak, doll?
I never disapproved of your relationship.
I don't know how you arrived at that.
That was something within you. That was your issue.
Jo, stop. It's true.
No, that's not true.
I've always thought it's been tumultuous, but you guys
obviously have a deep connection and a strong bond,
and that's why you're still together.
No, she doesn't want me
to be with you. It's an issue.
OK, well, let's take a look at some never-before-seen footage
of Jo's reaction to Dylan and Pattiya's engagement.
[Dylan] Pattiya...
Will you marry me?
Yes. Oh, my God, babe.
-How are you, Mom? -Hi -- I'm good.
-How are you? -[Dylan] Good.
Hi, Jo. Your son just proposed to me.
-[Jo speaking] -Yeah!
I just, yeah, it's quick. It's quick.
I mean, you know, long time coming, but it's quick, yeah.
-[Pattiya] Yeah. -[Jo] Yeah, wow.
[Pattiya] The first thing that came out of her mouth was,
"[gasps], so soon?" And that made me so mad.
I wanted to say, "Jo..."
Jo, we've been together for 12 years.
The issues has always been you.
-You. -[Dylan] It hasn't, it hasn't, my love.
-She's not the issue, she's -- she's not... -Yeah!
I don't understand why I'm the major issue.
Jo.
I have a close relationship with my son.
We're a close-knit family.
You know, it's just, it's crazy.
Perhaps your family's not as close.
I don't know, but...
We're close, but we don't have that toxic attachment issue
the way you do. -There's no toxic attachment.
It's a close relationship.
It is when you're calling every day and talking multiple
times a day to him.
She calls at the worst time,
and he'll like stop everything to talk to her.
It's just so, it's just so much.
I call my mom once a day to check in on her.
That's all, five-minute conversation, bang, bang...
It's not five minutes. Stop making everything...
Well, sometimes it's, sometimes it's 10, sometimes it's 15.
No, it's not even, no, you're lying.
It's an hour.
You guys talk for a very long time.
Well, sometimes it's an hour, like...
I can't understand Pattiya not liking me.
I can't understand why she's jealous.
It's crazy. He's with her.
I'm not jealous of the relationship with them.
I'm just pissed that she calls constantly.
Oh, God. I'm not being horrible,
but she really does need to do some work on herself.
She needs to take some accountability.
I mean, it's ridiculous to be jealous
of a mother and son's relationship.
Really.
I don't wanna keep fighting about this, but I'm not --
I'm not gonna stop calling my mom.
[Johny] That's OK, Dylan, like, if I was in your shoes, man,
I would call my mom every day if I could,
no matter who tells me not to.
-But, I mean, it's constant. -It's not constant, Pattiya.
Chloe, do you talk to your mom every day, four times a day?
No.
-Greta? -My mom's not alive.
Oh.
My mom passed away, too.
Oh, OK, Luke?
[exhales heavily] So I call my dad every day,
because one day your parents may not be with you.
Yeah, I don't understand why Pattiya is upset.
Some people are close to the family, and I don't see
any, like, problem talking to the mother, like...
it's fine, totally fine for me.
[Dylan] The constant...
sort of talk from Pattiya, "Your mother, your mother,
your mother," it's...it drives me insane.
[Shaun] OK, right now, I wanna bring another voice into this.
To help paint Pattiya's side of the story,
let's welcome her fellow dancer and good friend Jen.
-[Pattiya] Hey, Jen. -Welcome, Jen.
[Jen] Hey.
[Shaun] So Jen, um...
just to clarify, we saw you referred to as Lynn.
-Yeah. -[Shaun] Is that just your stage name?
Yes, that's my previous stage name.
OK, so we can call you Jen.
-Yeah. -[Shaun] Right, OK.
-You've been listening. -Mm-hmm.
Tell me what you have heard about Jo, Dylan's mom.
I have heard that she calls multiple times a day
and has become a source of contention between them.
Like, I was listening back there, and Pattiya didn't just
make all of this up in her head.
You know, you didn't just pull that out of thin air.
12 years.
[Jen] And it's not just phone calls,
but it's the context of the phone calls.
It's the things that you're talking about.
They're inappropriate conversations to have
with your son.
-[Shaun] Whoa. -Oh.
What sort of inappropriate conversations?
Johny, do you genuinely love Chloe?
To give it another shot?
Um, honestly, I mean, look, if some way, somehow,
we can get through this, and, like, somehow start new,
then, yeah, I would do a lot better job
to take care of Chloe, you know?
What the hell is going on right now?
What the [bleep]?
Um...
Come back, Chloe, come back to me.
[Jo] What sort of inappropriate conversations?
The vagueness is throwing me off.
-I mean, I... -Yeah, I think -- I --
I this is kind of...
It's a bit sad, really, it's...
it feels like Jen is bringing some darkness into my mom
and I relationship, and I just think it's unnecessary.
I think it's a low blow, I just think --
I don't think.
I just, I think it's unfounded.
I mean, if you wanna be specific, I'm happy for you
to be specific.
Jen, when you say "inappropriate conversations,"
what are you talking about?
It's just conversations that you just would not have
with your son, like delving into like your medical things,
like appointments with doctors, like just things that you just.
[Pattiya] Womanly appointment with doctors.
[Jen] Womanly appointments with doctors.
You don't discuss with your son.
OK, so if you're talking about going to a...
-Gynecologist. -OK.
What's wrong with that?
-Jo, it's inappropriate. -Yeah, big deal.
-It's inappropriate. -You don't -- I would -- if I
-She had an appointment to see the gyno, who cares? -If I had a son, I would not
tell my son I'm going to see a [bleep] doctor.
It's just weird, you know?
That's wrong.
Look, down under, we're pretty easygoing.
We are a close-knit family.
Y'all, like, collectively gang up on her,
and it's really, really weird.
The whole point is that you were trying to act like
the phone calls were normal, but you're leaving out
the context of the conversations.
Some of the stuff that she discusses
with you is inappropriate. I was shocked.
For instance, when we were at dinner,
and I was in Tasmania,
and we're all sitting at the table with Glenn...
Wait, wait, wait, love. Wait, just wait.
Like, just think about this.
You -- you're really disrespecting my mom here.
You're trying to humiliate her.
Please, just sit back, relax, take a breath,
and think about what you're doing.
Well, why don't you let her finish what
she was going to say? -[Dylan] Because my -- my -- my...
Hey, well, my mom's -- my mom's here, and she doesn't wanna be
humiliated and embarrassed. -So is Pattiya.
-[Jen] Yeah, she's also. -[Dylan] She's a beautiful...
And you -- and you you'd rather have me be humiliated?
You're making her seem like she's crazy and pretending that
it's just all lies.
I just wanna say, like, with the whole medical issue,
and stuff like that.
I do understand Dylan's mom and Dylan.
They could talk about anything.
When my mom was alive, I would ask her and talk to her about
everything, about all her medical issues.
When she was dying, I was the only one there, you know?
So like, I understand Dylan completely.
You know, you don't know how long you have your mom for,
but I just feel like there
could be a balance. There could.
Like, you know, if she say you're talking to your mom
for an hour, just do it when she's working, you know?
Simple as that.
Like, when she's at home, you don't talk to your mom.
-You talk to your mom every day. -Thank you.
-[Johny] But when she's working. -Thank you.
Thank you, Johny.
When I'm working, he can talk to her.
I'm happy with that. Definitely happy with that.
OK, alright. We're gonna move on.
So what is next for you in the K-1 visa process?
-Well... -Yeah, so I'm heading to the States in a couple
of weeks, so Pattiya and I will probably go see
an immigration lawyer. We'll start with the paperwork.
I think it takes about 12 months,
and, uh, get married and start our life in the US.
Is it gonna be really sad for you, Jo, when your son
comes over here to the States permanently?
I think it's -- I think it's great, I mean, life's an adventure.
They wanna be together. I think that's wonderful.
They have my blessing.
[Shaun] Pattiya...
what's wrong?
[crying]
[Pattiya] It just hurts.
I mean, I see that she's blessing us
and I wish this would have happened a long time ago.
This is all I've ever wanted for 12 years.
I love you so much. I held on for 12 years.
12 years. That's a long time.
-I thought 46 was old... -I know, love, and I appreciate that.
...now I'm 59.
You're just coming into your prime.
Oh, that's sweet. That's sweet.
-Oh, Pattiya. -Pattiya, don't be upset.
Everything's gonna work out, seriously.
-[Shaun] Aw. -Thank you, Jo.
-[Shaun] OK, alright, Jo. -[Jo] No, I -- I mean that.
See, she's a lovely woman. You're both lovely women.
[Jo] Of course. It'll be fine.
Jo, it has definitely been
eye-opening to hear your perspective.
Thank you very much for joining us.
-Appreciate you coming on, Mom. -Thank you for having me.
[Shaun] Alright.
Jen, thank you so much for joining us today.
-Thanks, y'all. -Alright.
Thank you, Jen.
Pattiya and Dylan, your love has taken you on a journey
all over the world.
We hope you continue to plan your future and are excited
to see where it takes you. -Thank you.
That was intense.
-I'm not crazy. -[Greta] No!
-No, -We know, we know.
-Babe, nobody thinks you're crazy, love. -[Chloe] You're not crazy.
[Greta] Nobody thinks you're crazy.
You're fine, you're OK. We understand.
Alright, let's turn our attention now
to Jenny and Sumit.
Jenny and Sumit found themselves closer than ever
to Sumit's family, literally.
They moved in with his parents and went into business together,
opening a cafe.
But the pressure eventually led to conflict
between all of them.
Jenny and Sumit, are you guys ready for this?
-We're ready. -Yeah, we are ready.
[Shaun] Alright, well.
Where are you calling home these days?
Uh, we live with his parents right now.
You said you were done with that.
-You said you wanted out. -I do want out.
So have things gotten any better with Sumit's family?
-No. -[Shaun] No?
[Sumit] You've been accepted, and they love you.
Then what else you want, like?
I wanna live in my own place.
[Chloe] I see her side.
I mean, I would kinda wanna be out with my man alone,
not with the parents.
[Madelein speaking]
Jenny, are you able to spend any quality time
with your parents-in-law? -I don't want to.
That's the problem.
I wanna stay in my room and be left alone.
I can't be bothered.
So you spend most of the day in your bedroom?
-[Jenny] I do. -[Shaun] OK.
Wow.
So being in that house, how does that affect
your intimacy? -It's not there.
The parents are there, and it's very uncomfortable.
It affects our relationship a lot.
But I don't see any reason why we do that.
Just only because the parents are there, then it should not
affect our relationship.
-To be very honest, like, when we were living... -Yeah.
...by ourselves, we were very happy.
Like, I think maybe just because Jenny feel free, and...
-Mm-hmm. -...so that's why, like, things were good.
But now if she's not happy, then she don't wanna just,
like, get intimate.
Sumit, how do you think your parents will feel
if you go forward with the plan to move out?
They will feel devastated.
[Sumit] I believe that's what my parents think.
[Shaun] Alright, well.
Speaking of your parents, Sumit's parents finally
accepted Jenny as part of the family,
but things are far from perfect between them.
Let's see how the dynamic is working today.
Please welcome Sumit's mom, Sadhna, and dad, Anil.
Hi there. Good to see you again.
Thank you so much for joining us.
-OK. -Hello.
[Shaun] Sumit and Jenny have been telling us about
the situation at home.
How would you say that the relationship between
all of you is today?
[speaking Hindi]
[translator] She's happy, but not so much.
Where -- where do you think the problem is, Sadhna?
Why do you think Jenny is not happy?
[speaking Hindi]
[Jenny] I'm hoping that
I'm number one and not number two.
Happy wife, happy life, brother.
No, no, not at all, not at all.
Jenny, at one point, you said you were gonna
move out with or without Sumit.
Where do you stand on that now?
Yeah, I still say that.
Where would you go?
Well, I mean, I -- I don't wanna go back to America,
but you need to do something for us. -No, this is, no.
This sounds like threatening.
You guys need a means of income.
That's not true. Why you lie?
I've never told you you can't go work.
No.
My parents expect that we all live together.
and that's what we are doing right now.
I don't wanna live together.
[Shaun] Alright, Jenny, how is the dynamic between
your parents and your brother and sister-in-law in the house?
They don't live with us in the house.
[Shaun] So they moved out?
They -- they got their own apartment.
And why did they move out?
Because she can't live with his parents either.
Were there any problems between Shree and Sadhna
when they were living together? -Yeah.
-[Shaun] What were those problems? -No.
They -- yes, they weren't getting along.
You know your sister-in-law doesn't want to live
with your parents. -[Sumit] No.
-Say the truth. -[Sumit] No, it's not like that.
They were living with them.
[Shaun] But -- but, Sumit, you've been talking up until this point
about the culture, that your culture
calls for the children to live with the parents?
So you're saying your brother and sister-in-law went
against the culture? -Yeah.
OK, but it's good for them, but it's not good for us?
-May I -- may I speak something? -[Shaun] Yes, go ahead, Anil.
We also eat non-veg, too, so.
Then when we are cooking the non-veg, it gives a smell.
My wife cannot tolerate...
Oh, yeah, like, once you stop eating animals, when you start
smelling them being, like, cooked again,
it's, like, a really horrid smell.
It's, like, really hard to, like, be around.
Oh.
So how come his sister-in-law and brother
can live separately
because they like to eat meat, but we have to live there?
It doesn't even have anything to do with the food.
[Shaun] Alright, let's pivot for a moment.
Let's talk about the cafe.
Sumit, how is the business going?
It's going OK.
At first, we -- we went there with a plan that everybody
will work together as a family.
That's why we named it Family Cafe.
But lately, it looks like that I'm the only one left there
working because my mom and dad is not physically fit to work
there all the time, Jenny don't know how to cook.
My brother have his job, like, sister-in-law have
to take care of their son.
But I mean, maybe she doesn't know how to cook the food,
but if you show her and teach her and be patient and take
the time to explain what you need her to do,
maybe you guys can run the business together.
Jenny, could you take lessons and maybe help, contribute?
I -- I don't wanna be at that cafe from morning till night.
Yeah, but you guys need a means of income.
I'm trying to be happy. That's it.
I can't be miserable all day long, every day.
[Shaun] Well, before opening the cafe, Sumit got some help
from his friend slash old boss.
He's eager to share his thoughts about that
and much more. Please welcome Rohit.
-Hello, everyone. -[Sumit] Hello.
[Shaun] We saw you have some tough words for Jenny and Sumit
about their cafe.
Have they been able to change your mind?
No.
Jenny, why are you rolling your eyes?
He can't afford to pay a team. How we gonna pay these people?
Well, Sumit, did you ask Rohit for advice on making this
a successful business?
[Sumit] Remember, you blamed me for -- for the failure.
You said that Jenny don't let me come to work and all that.
Well, that's not true.
What's not true about it, Jenny?
He's trying to say that I wouldn't let Sumit go work
at his restaurant, and that's why it closed down.
I never told Sumit he couldn't go work.
I don't know where you get that from.
Why you lie to him and you blame it on me
because you don't wanna go?
I never told you you can't go work with him.
Why you lie to him?
Johny, is there anyone special in your life now?
-Anyone special in my life? -[Shaun] Yes.
It's a very complicated situation.
Johny, come on, let us know. Lay it on us.
OK, guys, don't kill me.
So, um...
I never told you you can't go work with him.
No, it's not about "You can't go work with him,"
you said -- -After work.
-It was after you're done working... -Yeah, after work.
-...you're gonna go drink... -Yeah.
...with him and come home drunk.
-That's what it was. -[Sumit] You feel like --
I feel whenever friends meet up,
and sometimes we have few drinks, it's fine...
I don't think there's any problem with Sumit going out
with friends by himself.
And, like, anyone who's in relationships who try to,
like, control that I think is like really in the wrong.
You need to maintain who you are as an individual
in your relationship.
I think there just needs to be a balance.
If he likes to get drunk, let him get drunk once a month.
OK, Jenny, how do you think he acts when he's
with his friends?
He drinks, he gets drunk, but he gets too drunk.
And he's on the floor crawling around and...
That's -- that -- that's really drunk.
A couple of years ago, like one and a half year ago.
Oh, wow.
I'm his wife.
[Rohit speaking]
I'm his wife.
[Shaun] So Jenny, is this true?
You don't want Sumit hanging out with Rohit?
Honestly, Jenny don't like Rohit.
So it's true that your relationship with Rohit
is not as close as it used to be because Jenny does not
like him. Is that right?
[Sumit] Yeah, yeah, it -- it is like that.
[speaking Hindi]
What did you say?
[speaking Hindi]
[translator] Things in, in their life.
[Shaun] OK, I just wanna quickly circle back
to your living situation.
Jenny, how long do you plan to continue to live
with Sumit's parents? -[Jenny] I don't know.
Hopefully not much longer.
Sadhna and Anil, what would you do if Sumit and Jenny
moved out of the house?
They never lived without family.
They never lived like that in their entire life.
And now if we gonna do that, then they will be all alone
by themselves and then it will be hard on them.
They can come visit us. We can go visit them.
You can't have the best of both worlds, man.
I mean, like, I wish you could, my guy, but you can't.
So either your parents move or Jenny's moving.
I mean, I don't like ultimatums myself,
but you're gonna have to make a choice.
Jenny, are you giving Sumit an ultimatum about moving out?
[Jenny] Yeah.
If he doesn't stand up for me to his parents and make
something happen for us together, then yeah,
I'm gonna have to go my own way.
I believe then there is no marriage.
If she's moving out, like...
Well, then don't let it happen.
Is divorce in the cards?
It depends on him.
I am at my breaking point and Sumit needs to stand up
and do something.
-[Shaun] Oh, wow. -[Madelein] Oh!
Well, Rohit, thank you for taking the time to speak
with us today and share your perspective on Jenny and Sumit.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
And Sadhna and Anil, we appreciate you speaking
so openly and honestly here today.
Hopefully, we will see you again soon.
Thank you and take care.
Thank you.
Jenny and Sumit, clearly there is a lot for you two
to work through.
We hope you can find solutions going forward.
-Thank you, Shaun. -Thank you.
Let's go back now to Chloe and Johny.
Johny, you had initially apologized and told Chloe
"I would take you back." -Yeah.
Did you think that there was a chance that
you two could continue?
I think if I was a little bit more, I don't know,
respectful and a little bit more understanding,
a little bit more patient, I think, like,
this relationship could have worked.
I really thought it could have worked, you know?
[Dylan] I think the whole things very sad.
I mean, I was really rooting for Johny and Chloe and I'd
actually personally like to see them both give it another shot.
Johny, do you genuinely love Chloe?
-To give it another shot? -What the hell's happening?
Um, honestly, I mean, look, we have like
a great sexual chemistry.
We just enjoy each other's company a lot
and it's just, if some way, somehow we can get through this
and like somehow start new, then yeah,
I will do a lot better job to take care of Chloe.
So Chloe, if you could start with a clean slate,
would you go back with him?
What the hell is going on right now?
What the [bleep]?
It was always good. I don't know.
I felt like that. I don't know how you felt.
You're a very beautiful and smart woman.
Come back, Chloe. Come back to me.
I think Aruba is a full no-go for me.
I think chemistry-wise, we could fix that piece of it,
but it would not be able to be in Aruba.
What if it were in Boston?
I'm sure we would still run into other issues,
but I don't know how -- -Nah, I don't think so.
I mean, we definitely would have some issues
if you were to come over there.
What do you think the issues would be?
Um, Boston has some hot girls.
Like, I see them in the bar every day, like.
[Pattiya] Well, hot girls are everywhere.
-It's not just in one state. -[Chloe] That's true, that's true, that's true.
-[Pattiya] They're everywhere. -[Johny] There's only one Chloe.
-I'm so confused. -[Shaun] Yeah.
Yeah -- I'm really confused right now, I'm telling you.
-[Pattiya]I know, what did I start? -[Shaun] Um...
OK -- alright. -[Pattiya] Sorry.
-Chloe. -[Chloe] Yes.
-Are you seeing anyone now? -I'm not.
-You're not? -Thank God.
To be completely honest, I think I'm honestly
mentally unstable to be with anyone right now.
So I think that if I were to be with a guy, I would probably
just, like, self-sabotage it by being...
-You. -...insane and insecure.
Brutally honest.
Alright. Johny, what about you?
Is there anyone special in your life now?
-Anyone special in my life? -[Shaun] Yes.
Yeah. Yeah.
-[Shaun] There is? -Chloe -- maybe?
-Johny? -Oh, my God, man!
So you are seeing somebody right now?
It's a -- it's a lot more complicated than what it is.
[Luke] Bring the tea, Johny. -[Shaun] What do you mean?
Come on, let us know, lay it on us.
I've already been eaten up enough for today, bro.
I don't need more of it. You know what I'm saying?
-[Johny] Oh, my God. -Johny, tell us what's going on.
We need closure.
What is -- what is the complicated situation?
No, it's a very complicated situation.
-It's like a, it's a really complicated one. -[Shaun] What do you mean?
But I'm very happy about the situation.
So, um.
So what's complicated about it?
OK, guys, don't eat me up. Don't kill me.
I'm just a human being. I'm just a human.
So I am expecting a child.
[Jenny] Oh!
Yes.
Whoa!
What?
OK, guys, don't eat me up. Don't kill me.
I'm just a human being. I'm just a human.
So I am expecting a child.
[Jenny] Oh!
Yes.
Whoa!
What?
Due in March.
[Shaun] Oh, whoa.
Oh, my God.
Is that -- is this your first time
that you're gonna be a father or have you got other children?
I'm sorry...
What the [bleep]?
Wow! Congratulations, Johny.
-[Shaun] Whoa. -[Johny] Thank you, guys.
-Thank you. -Congrats, Johny.
Gotta give it to you. Didn't see that one coming.
Thank you, Chloe. Thank you, Chloe.
I'm gonna be sick.
It's a girl, by the way.
Oh, God.
What are you gonna name her, Chloe?
A girl?
[bleep]
Wow, Johny, you really dropped one on us.
-I dropped the bomb. -[Shaun] Yeah, you did.
I'd like to know, are you in a relationship
with the baby's mother?
Yes.
-[Shaun] OK -- this is your girlfriend? -Yes.
OK, but Johny, just a little while ago,
you were talking about rekindling the relationship
between you and Chloe.
No, I mean, not rekindle, but I mean, me and Chloe could
always be good friends.
Yeah, it definitely seemed like there was sexual tension,
and you were definitely open to more.
-[Johny] I mean, yeah, I mean, like -- -[Shaun] Would -- would --
would you all agree that... -We were talking around, too.
Remember? You were gonna come to Boston.
Chloe, you remember that part of the conversation,
don't you? -I don't even know where I am.
But yeah, I do. I remember that.
OK. So do you see marriage
in your future with this woman?
Most likely.
[Shaun] Right. Well, wow.
OK, uh...
Chloe, I know this is gonna be tough for you.
[clears throat]
Chloe can handle it. She's got tough skin.
She's fine.
I'm sorry, Chloe.
I really didn't realize this. I really didn't.
It's a shock to me how you're acting right now.
[Shaun] Johny, how do you feel seeing Chloe upset like this?
[Johny] I never in a million years
would think that it'd be so emotional for her.
And it just, it just sucks for me because I just feel like,
wow, she still had feelings for me.
She still, like, in one weird way wanted this.
And it just makes me feel like, damn, like, if I knew,
I would have done things way different.
And all I can say is I'm very, very sorry, Chloe.
I feel terrible. I really, really feel bad.
Like, damn, like.
-Can we get some tissue? -[Chloe] Thanks.
-[Shaun] It's OK. -[crying]
[Johny] Yeah, man, [bleep].
[Chloe, softly] Thank you.
It's OK.
I wish I told you in a better setting, Chloe.
I really did. I really do.
-I'm so sorry. -[sniffles]
[Johny] This is like, this is so, like, I don't know.
Like, I feel like, wow.
Like, I didn't think you had feelings like that at all.
[Shaun] It seems like, um...
Chloe, that this is... -[bleep]
This is the future that you had envisioned with Johny.
[Shaun] This is the future that you had envisioned with Johny.
[Johny] Yeah, man, [bleep].
Chloe, are you OK?
-[sighs] Yeah. -I'm sorry, Chloe.
I didn't think it bothered you that much.
I really didn't.
[Shaun] Alright. Well, wow.
OK.
Chloe, we definitely wish you the very best.
Hopefully, there are some wonderful things that are
gonna happen to you in the future.
So thank you so much for sharing your story.
And Johny, thank you so much.
-Congratulations on the baby... -Thank you.
...the relationship, and this new future
that you are about to embark on.
-[Johny] Thank you. -So thank you so much.
-OK. -[Johny] Thank you.
-Oh, my God. -[Shaun] Alright.
I know that was tough, but we have reached the end
of this "90 Day Fiancé: The Other Way" Tell All.
Thank you to all of the couples, their friends,
and their families for being so open and honest.
Until next time, I'm Shaun Robinson.
Thank you so much for watching.
[dramatic music playing]
[Chloe] Thank you.
No, it's OK.
[sighs]
I mean, I'm surprised in general, 'cause, I mean,
having a baby is, like, a huge
thing, and to see him so quickly, like, within not
even a year, move on and have a child with someone and, like,
pursue it and not think that I would be affected is, like...
It's, like, sad for me.
I just don't want people to see me as this evil person.
That's what, the only thing I worry about, you know?
You know? Sometimes you gotta,
you know, run away from the lust.
If I had known that, you know, Chloe still had those
feelings for me, then yeah, I would've probably like tried
to fix that, you know?
It would've played out a lot differently.
A lot differently.
-[Luke] How we doing? -[Greta sighs]
We have gone through so much bull[bleep] ups and downs and,
you know, lefts and rights. -Throughout this entire day.
-[Luke] Oh, my gosh. -[Pattiya] Definitely.
For sure.
I feel so bad for Chloe that...
that situation happened.
I think she is a beautiful person
and an even better human being.
I think she's a good-looking girl, yeah.
Hey, we're getting drinks later.
Mocktails?
Who do you think we can convince to come tonight?
Oh, everyone's coming.
Today was...tough.
We have some problems and not sure if they all got solved,
but, you know, I think a lot of us is gonna be working
our way through those issues.
Bye.
And as far as Dylan's mom,
all I wanted her to say was,
"Pattiya, you're absolutely right.
"If it's boundaries that you need, I will give that
to you." And she doesn't say that.
But she did make me cry when she's like, "I bless you."
So it's a work in progress, but I'm hopeful.
[Chloe] Jenny girl, give me a hug.
[Jenny speaking]
You're tiny, how cute.
Me and Sumit, it was tough.
He doesn't take accountability.
[Jenny] Thank you.
He sees his parents as gods. They're up here.
He needs to step up, and he's got to choose.
Either we move or he loses me. I can't live like this anymore.
Seeing Hazel.
Matthew and I, we could actually,
you know, keep in touch with each other, but I definitely,
like, don't have feelings for him.
[Chloe speaking]
You too -- bye!
[Chloe] Bye, Greta.
[Greta] I'm really happy to be single.
I've just, like, met so many incredible people
this past year.
Like, it almost makes me realize, like, man,
it's gonna be hard to pick someone.
But, like, I can't wait to be in love.
Like, I'm, like, really excited for it one day.
[Luke] Today, I felt like I got [bleep] on.
You know, I don't wanna sound like a victim, but, yeah,
I mean, it's been super hard.
I don't get the whole story that Madelein has painted.
Luke Alexander Berry.
[speaking Spanish]
[Luke] Madelein holds a lot of grudges.
You can't behave in that manner, I think.
It's not healthy.
I do have a K-1 in process.
Maybe I cancel it, maybe I don't.
Maybe some time apart would be beneficial for us both.
[Chloe] I'm so glad it's over.
I don't think any of Johny's apologies were sincere.
You couldn't even stop cheating on me, and now you're gonna
to have a full commitment like a baby with somebody else?
Here it goes.
He's just blowing up my phone and saying,
"Can we talk? Don't be like that."
I don't know what I'm being like, but...
I had no idea about this baby, and this was, like,
the biggest shocker.
I'm good. I don't think he's good up here.
I wanna block him.
I think I got the biggest closure
I honestly possibly could have asked for,
even though I didn't ask for it.
See ya, bitches.
I was supposed to go to Aruba next week, actually,
but I think I'm gonna cancel my flight.
Honestly, it was really for myself.
But I think if I do go after all of this, Johny will try
to talk to me, and I don't wanna deal with him or see
his face again. And I mean it this time.
I mean it.
I don't know what's next for me.
I hope it's [bleep] great.
But I'm happy.
I'm single.
I'm just gonna focus on myself, and then what finds me
maybe will find me. And you never know.