[producer] Here we go, guys.
[Shaun] Previously on 90 Day Fiance: The Other Way, "The Couples Tell All"...
[man] Boy, let me tell you something.
You are so full of [bleep].
You messed with somebody's mama. You don't do that.
[Shaun] Jen and Rishi,
you guys had a rollercoaster relationship
- and it came to an end. - [Jen exhales]
Have you been in contact at all?
We've talked a little.
[Shaun] Ah.
You guys left us very unsure
whether your relationship was going to continue.
Are you still married?
Yes, we are still technically married.
I think people are surprised that I'm willing to say to this beautiful man, like,
"I'm not gonna stand for your [bleep] ."
Like, I think people just think I should cook and clean for him
'cause he's hot.
Kris and Jeymi, you had an explosive fight.
Kris, you said you were done.
Have you two talked since then?
- No. - No.
If Jeymi has resentment towards me,
then it's her own fault.
You're one of my favorites, but I'm not a fan of Mahmoud.
He's so young to have a mind that's so controlling.
Are you gonna tell him that today?
Why do you force her to change the way she dresses?
What if you have a daughter?
Are you gonna force her to wear the hijab and everything?
Whatever, bro. You literally force her to do everything.
You suppress her.
You sound like an idiot.
You're-- ...sweetheart. Just tell--
[Mahmoud speaking and scoffing]
Sorry, everybody.
[Jen] No, don't apologize. Don't apologize.
So, uh, we obviously lost Mahmoud.
He was very, very upset.
Nicole, I can see how difficult this is for you.
[sobs]
He doesn't wanna be challenged.
How many times did we see him walk away in the show?
[Nicole] I think you can see that it's a great challenge for me, right?
And I think underneath this exterior thing, like,
he's a really good person, I love him, right?
But, it's very difficult.
[Shaun] Um, okay.
Nicole, can you step off and just check in on Mahmoud?
- Okay, thank you. - I'll be right back, thank you.
- Good luck. - Okay.
Hopefully, she can get him back.
[sighs] You know, I found that very triggering.
Because I feel like I have a lot of similar experiences.
- And I think that-- - [Shaun] With Yohan?
With Yohan, for sure.
I think that
one of the things that makes a relationship successful
is the ability to have hard conversations.
And if your wife is constantly telling you over and over again
that she's not going to abide by your rules,
or it's very oppressive for her...
It's like he's saying, "I'll let my kid choose."
But you don't let your wife choose.
[Gabriel] He said, "I'll let my child choose."
Of course, they're gonna be Muslim.
It's like, choose what?
[Mahmoud speaking]
Okay. I'm so sorry that that happened, sweetheart.
[Mahmoud speaking]
[Nicole over phone] I understand.
[in Arabic]
[in English] But you know what's important here, honey?
Is that you tell your truth.
[Mahmoud speaking]
I understand. I understand, honey.
I want you to help them understand.
- So, it's important-- - [Mahmoud speaking]
...to anybody.
I think they're just kind of curious,
like, they just kind of wonder.
You know, what that would be like, right?
- They're just asking questions. - [Mahmoud speaking]
I'm so sorry that this has put you in such a terrible mood.
I really am.
I need you to be here with me, my love.
Be strong.
[Mahmoud speaking]
[sighs]
I know, I know.
[Mahmoud speaking]
I'm trying to support you.
[Mahmoud speaking]
I'm sorry, honey. I can't control what comes out of the mouths of other people.
- But we have to [bleep] be strong together. - [Mahmoud speaking]
[Nicole] Honey, you think that will make things better?
- You think that works to make the world go-- Ways? - [Mahmoud speaking]
[Nicole] Where are you, my love?
[Mahmoud speaking]
[sighs] Oh.
It's gon' be okay, Mahmoud.
Mahmoud, uh, welcome back.
Who's the ass [bleep]?
- Probably me, 'cause I asked him a question. - [Kris] Yeah.
[mocking]
[sniffles]
[Mahmoud speaking]
[Debbie] Poor Nicole. Oh, my gosh.
She needs a hug, man.
I feel so bad.
I just want people to be nice to each other. [sniffles]
No, I'm asking both of you to try and understand each other.
[exhales] Will you come back out with me, honey?
[Nicole] You will?
- Okay, good. - [Mahmoud speaking]
All right, thank you.
- [Mahmoud speaking] - Bye-bye.
[Shaun] Hi, Nicole.
Hi. [sniffles]
Yeah, you got this, girl.
- [Nicole sniffling] - We're here for you.
- [Daniele sniffles] - I wanna apologize. Nicole, I'm sorry.
I just want the word to be a better [bleep] place.
We all try to understand each other a lot more.
- [Debbie] Exactly. - Instead of fighting and carrying on and, like,
perpetuating this [bleep] nonsense.
[Debbie] Exactly. You're exactly correct.
[Gabriel] I sincerely apologize.
I only asked this question because my dad is Muslim.
My step-mom is Muslim.
My three siblings, younger siblings,
their parents let them make the choice.
So that's why I asked the question. Because I know.
It's closer to home than you guys know.
So, it's not like I--
- No, you're fine. You're fine. I just-- - [Gabriel] I apologize.
Ah.
It's okay.
- [Jen] We appreciate that. - [Debbie] Yeah.
[Mahmoud speaking]
[scoffs]
[sniffles]
I just have, like, a lot of acceptance for people
of, like, all shapes and sizes and types and kinds.
- [Debbie] I love you. - [exhales] Thank you, Debbie.
It's gonna be okay, honey.
We've got people that care.
- We're not judges, none of us. - Yeah, I know. Thank you.
But some people wanna be the judge
- but we're not judges. - I know.
- Thank you. - [Debbie] Uh-huh.
[sighs] Oh.
[Shaun] Nicole, you seem like you could use a break.
So, we'll come back to you and Mahmoud a little later.
- Dude! - Wow, man, I don't know.
This has completely changed, Veronica, like,
you went into this saying, like,
out of all the couples, that was the one you were banking on.
- Well-- - Now, what do you think?
After two walk-offs, fighting with all the cast,
crying, like, literally, I mean, craziness.
- Gabe really got under his skin, apparently. - [Veronica] Yeah.
I don't think Gabe was being really that bad, like,
- he can't take that, he's in the wrong place. - [Veronica] Yeah.
All right, I wanna move over to our newlyweds, Gabe and Isabel.
While they ended up right where they wanted to be, as husband and wife,
the road to marriage was not a simple one.
So right now, how is the bulge business going?
[all laughing]
Is it up and running in Colombia?
It's going [chuckles] very well.
I have a lot more, um,
customers that are men now.
- Men who want bigger bulges? - [woman] Cis men?
They're not all big, Daniele.
[all laughing]
- Wow. - Yeah.
- So-- Yeah. - So, it's like padding your bra?
- Wow. Really? - [Gabriel] Yes.
- Huh. - [Gabriel] Yeah.
[Shaun] Okay.
And they'll message me. They'll say,
"Is this for-- Can guys wear it too?
If I have a penis, can I still wear it?"
I'm like, "Yes, you can."
- [chuckles] - [Shaun] Wow, okay.
- [all chuckling] - Okay, ladies. How would you feel if, you know,
you got to that point and...
You know what, we've had our bras.
So, I am 100% pro, like,
make it look however you wanna make it look.
- [Shaun laughing] - You know, whatever floats your boat, man.
- [Shaun] Yeah? - It's like... Go for it.
- Daniele's like, "Uh... I don't know." - [all laughing]
- [Shaun] I don't know. - [Daniele] I don't know.
I don't know. I don't think that's for me.
I feel like I need you to be with--
Secure with whatever you're working with.
Yeah, that's...
- [Shaun] Um-- - [all chuckling]
- I'm spoiled, I guess. - [Gabriel chuckles]
Isabel, is Gabe technically your boss
or is this a real 50/50 partnership?
- Yes. - [all chuckling]
[Isabel in Spanish]
[in English] Okay. Well, in Colombia,
Gabe forged a friendship with a fellow American, Trey.
- [laughing] - [Shaun] But, from the very start,
there was bad blood between Trey and Isabel.
Let's bring Trey on so we can sort this out.
[laughing]
Please welcome Trey, everybody.
How you doing?
[chuckling]
- Hi, Trey. How are you? - Sup, Trey?
It's going good. What's up, Gabe?
Trey, Isabel disapproved of your relationship with Gabe.
Did she affect the friendship?
Uh, I mean, she affected it in ways in which
we can't really hang out with each other so much.
Like, we can only hang out at his house when she's around.
But we can't be, like, together, like, going out and stuff like that.
Did Gabe tell you why?
Mmm... Kind of.
But he just said, you know, "Leave it alone."
He's like, "Leave her alone." I don't-- You know,
happy wife, happy life.
So, I don't want him to get in trouble.
Okay. Isabel, what are your feelings about Trey?
[in Spanish]
[Gabriel in English] I think that
because of her past,
she's concerned that maybe, you know, I'm gonna find somebody else
because he likes to, like, go to clubs all the time and get women.
So, it was like me being around him, then, he's like...
Then, maybe, I might be doing the same thing that he's doing.
[in Spanish]
[Trey in English] Uh, you know, the thing is that, you know,
I don't think that she should look at me
as the person that is going to destroy their relationship,
because if he's gonna do something, then, it's gonna be on him.
And I'm gonna be honest with you right now.
Like, when we do go out,
Gabe does pull a lot of women.
[Shaun] Gabe, when you said, "Let me be free," what did you mean?
Um...
[Isabel in Spanish]
[Shaun in English] Jen, you were worried about Rishi
not wanting to buy the cow if the milk was free.
Like, he never spent the night.
[Shaun] Never spent the night?
How early did he come over though?
- Like, 02:00 a.m.? - [Jen] No, no, no. Here's the thing, you guys, like,
I'm not saying that we weren't intimate.
Oh.
I'm gonna be honest with you right now.
Like, when we do go out,
Gabe does pull a lot of women.
I mean, you can see, like,
- how many respond to him-- - [Shaun] Use your words. Use your words.
- Yeah, whoa. - I don't talk to anybody.
Use your words correctly, Trey.
- I don't talk to nobody. - [Shaun] Uh-oh. Uh-oh, Gabe.
- [Trey] He doesn't-- He does not-- - [Gabriel] No.
- [Trey] He does not respond to them. - [Gabriel] Mmm-mmm.
However, I'm not gonna say that women aren't attracted to him.
[Gabriel] There you go. There you go.
[Trey] I'm being straight-up. Women gravitate towards him.
Women are attracted towards him.
So, it's not me that's like, "Oh, I'm the one that's, you know,
telling him to go and do this and do that."
If he's gonna do something, he's gonna do it on his own.
So, she should trust him.
[Shaun] All right. As we've just seen,
Isabel and Trey don't hold back when it comes
to their feelings about one another.
Let's take a look back at one particular exchange.
- Sup, Gabe? - [Gabriel] Oh, what's up?
- [Trey] Sup, Isabel? - Finally. [chuckles]
- How you been? - Everything good.
Trey is...
[in Spanish]
[in English] This is usually our spot, bro.
- Where me and you hang out. - Shhh.
Yeah.
[in Spanish]
[sighs]
[Gabriel in English] Her jealousy is really frustrating at this point.
It's like,
let me be free!
[Isabel in Spanish]
Gabe, when you said, "Let me be free," what did you mean?
Um...
[Gabe sighs]
I just--
Like, I just want her to trust me more.
I'm not gonna ever--
I'm not gonna do anything bad to her.
Like, I love her to the moon and back.
I don't want--
I don't wanna be with any other women, I just,
like,
she is like my eyeballs.
I-- I could look at her all day. I don't--
She's, like, the most beautiful woman in Colombia.
I'm not finding-- I'm not finding any women.
[Trey] Well, this is the thing. I mean,
me and Gabe don't hang out
anywhere outside of her supervision.
I'll just say it like that, um,
I think she needs to just, like, lighten up the leash a little bit on him.
"Lighten up the leash."
- Oh, oh. Now, it's a leash. - [Shaun] Okay.
[in Spanish]
[Trey in English] No, any time we've ever hanged out,
especially since their marriage, it's all been us all together.
We've all been together.
Trey is her friend as well.
So, it's not like...
It's not like it's just me and his friendship only.
- She called him a dog and a womanizer. - [women laughing]
- [Shaun] Is that a friend? - [Daniele] No, she doesn't like him.
[Trey] Yeah, that was a little harsh, but, uh, yeah.
If he is, he is.
But Trey is, like, a player.
- [woman] Exactly. - And players attract playettes.
And, uh, she doesn't want her husband around the "playettes".
I mean, I have been out with a lot of...
[in Spanish]
[in English] And there are a lot of players.
- I mean, I've been there. - [Debbie] Mmm-hmm.
[Shaun] Do you think Trey is one?
- Probably. - [Shaun] Yep.
[all laughing]
[Yohan in Spanish]
[in English] I'm gonna stick up for my friend.
Trey is not a womanizer.
He is a single guy looking for love.
- And if one doesn't work out... - [laughs]
...you gotta find the next one.
Okay, we gotta look at the fact that, you know,
Isabel could be bringing in insecurities from previous relationships.
No.
[in Spanish]
[Shaun in English] All right.
Well, Trey, thank you for coming here
and speaking with us today.
- Take care and, uh, good luck in finding your soulmate. - [Gabriel chuckling]
- Thank you. - [all chuckling]
[Shaun] All right, Gabe and Isabel,
we're coming back to you a little later.
Isabel's coming across, like, a little jealous.
- Yes. - And she had never really struck me as that way.
They feel, like, so secure in their relationship that I'm kind of surprised.
I'm not gonna stereotype Colombian women,
but out of all my different Colombian girlfriends,
they will all tell me that their culture
are all very jealous.
- Oh. - And they own it.
They own it. They're like, "We're super jealous." And they are.
But, like, this jealousy thing is coming across a little controlling,
like, "You can't hang out
with certain people that I don't trust you being with."
You either trust someone or you don't.
She strikes me as the type of girl that
if he had a dream about another woman,
- she would be jealous. - Yes.
- Like... - [laughs]
Let's turn our attention to Jen and Rishi.
Jen waited two long years to be able to visit Rishi in India.
But soon after her arrival,
multiple conflicts arose.
And ultimately,
these issues proved to be too much for their relationship to withstand.
Well, uh, Jen and Rishi,
you guys had a devastating breakup when we last saw you.
But Jen, you said you and Rishi have spoken since then.
- We have. - [Shaun] You have?
So, what has happened since we last saw you two?
[Jen] Um, well,
I was actually invited to a wedding, a mutual friend's wedding,
and Rishi was also there.
And, um,
there was something else I think in store for us.
Ooh.
And we reconnected while I was there.
- [all chuckling] - [Shaun] Ooh, really?
Oh.
[Shaun] Okay.
So, this is more than just long-distance talking.
Rishi, that question brought a smile to your face.
[laughs]
[Shaun] Yes.
- So after the wedding, what happened? - [Jen] Yeah.
We spent a lot of time together.
[Shaun] Where did you stay?
- [Jen] I stayed in a hotel. - [Shaun] Mmm-hmm.
Where did Rishi stay?
- At his house. - [Shaun] Okay.
Like, he never spent the night.
- [Shaun] Never spent the night? - [Jen] No.
- Because-- - How early did he come over though?
- Like, 02:00 a.m.? - [Jen] No, no, no. Here's the thing, you guys, like,
I'm not saying that we weren't intimate.
Oh.
- Okay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.
[stutters] You know.
The first time in more than two years, right?
First time in a long time, yes.
[Daniele speaking]
[exhales] It was pretty amazing.
[all laughing]
[Daniele speaking]
And how was it for you, Rishi?
[laughs]
That's impressive.
[Shaun] Um, now, Jen,
you were worried about Rishi
not wanting to buy the cow if the milk was free.
You still feel that way?
Um, yes and no.
It's just-- It's this whole thing. Like, we love each other.
But, we're in this situation where
he's a mama's boy.
And, like, he is very deeply connected to his family.
And the way I can't make him choose between his family and me
just the way, the same way
that if you were ever to ask me to choose between my family and him,
I mean, uh,
I couldn't.
- No, no. - [Debbie] I think Rishi didn't
- stand up to his mother for you. - Yep.
I think he was a coward.
[exhales] Ah.
All right, Rishi. I'm going to give you a chance to speak for yourself here.
You heard Debbie. She just called you a coward.
Uh.
I think, uh, the way you let Jen go,
and, it's like, "I have to listen to my mother."
There was no passion.
- Where was your passion for her? - [Gabriel] You don't defend
your woman, bro.
[mockingly] "She need to go back."
- It's like, no. - [woman laughing]
- She didn't need to go back. - [Rishi] No.
Bro, you say a lot of words and you, like, just dance in circles for nothing.
Like, just say what you have to say.
Jen is up here nodding.
'Cause it's true.
I mean, I love Rishi, and I still don't know if it's a language barrier,
but he does talk in circles.
- [Debbie] Mmm-hmm. - [Gabriel] It's not a language barrier.
- He knows, 'cause I ain't gon' lie. - [Debbie chuckles]
I be doing the same thing.
- [all laughing] - [Gabriel] Like, if I don't wanna explain myself,
my Spanish gets a lot worse.
Wow.
So, okay, I have a question.
Who comes first? Your partner or your family?
That's for you, Rishi.
That's a great question.
[Rishi] Uh...
There he go dancing.
[Rishi speaking]
[Nicole] Well, where does Jen fit into the picture, Rishi?
With your family, I mean.
Where does she go in this, like, hierarchy?
Uh...
- [woman] Mmm-hmm. - So, is the engagement back on?
[sighs] I love him.
I don't know what's gonna happen
but we're not engaged.
A lot of things would have to happen and I'm not confident they would happen.
[Shaun] Okay, let me ask--
Rishi, do you consider Jen your fiancee or just your girlfriend?
I think, uh, fiancee still.
Man, really?
- [all agreeing and laughing] - Did you tell your mom that?
- Yeah, you got witnesses that heard that. - [Jen] Did you...Rishi?
She gives you the easiest questions.
All you have to say is yes or no.
It's so easy.
You can save a lot of time and a lot of breath.
Just say yes or no.
All right, Gabe, so what is your question to Rishi?
Does your family know that you guys are engaged? Yes or no.
And that's all.
Rishi, did you ever hook up with anybody else?
Never, like, reached out, had a phone conversation with anyone?
Uh...
Does your family know that you guys are engaged?
Yes or no and that's all, now, at this moment.
No, I'm talking about recently.
Recently...
Uh...
[sighs]
[Daniele] Is your mom there?
[Gabriel] Okay.
- [Daniele] I'd like to ask... - I love that.
- [Daniele] ...your mom that question. - [Gabriel] Yes!
- [Gabriel] Where's your mom? - [all laughing]
[Shaun] All right, Jen, we're just a little confused.
Are you or are you not engaged?
That's the thing, we're, we're still in touch, we still love each other
but there's a lot of things that would have to happen for us to be engaged again.
He would have to be willing to leave his mom's house.
He does not want to leave his mother's house, okay?
He would love to build on top of the roof a place for us to live
and no, that's a hard pass.
Everything that comes out is just ridiculous.
I mean, it's, it's pretty simple,
if you loved her and you wanna be with her,
- then that's not a difficult request to make. - [Jen scoffs]
You know, I mean, you should respect her and be willing to do that
for who you want to spend your life with.
[Rishi speaking]
Again, I don't think it's ridiculous
for him to want to live in a family home,
- I think that's, like, culturally appropriate there. - Yeah, for him, yeah.
- But the fact that his mom and uncle need him... - Yeah.
They said, he's the only person bringing any income,
he's the only one who's young enough
- to like do things, yeah. - [Tim] Yeah, they're old, they... keep the house up.
to keep the house up.
No, he's just in a bad spot, right, he's not gonna give up his family,
- and, clearly, the family is not coming around. - Yeah.
Okay, well, Jen and Rishi, while we're excited to hear
- that you are back together... - [laughing]
- ...I guess. - Are we? [laughs]
There are some significant obstacles you faced along the way.
Two people have been monitoring this from the start
and we'd like them to help us dig a little bit deeper into those obstacles.
Please welcome Jen's close friends, Myra and Randi.
- [Shaun] Hi, ladies. - Hi.
- [Daniele] Hi. - [all] Hi.
[Shaun] Okay, ladies,
tell me your first reaction when you found out
that Jen and Rishi were back in a relationship together.
News to me.
- I... - [laughing]
- [Randi] I don't know what's happening... - [laughing soundlessly]
...from minute to minute, honestly.
What the hell, she didn't tell you?
[Myra] No!
She said she was going to her friend's wedding
and maybe Rishi was gonna be there.
I mean, I can understand if she wants to hookup,
- I mean, yeah... - [laughs]
- [Myra] ...a woman has needs, but... - [continues laughing]
Like, I thought, she was so done.
[all laughing]
Yeah, so, was it a reaction of positivity,
did you think, "Okay, maybe it'll work this time around"?
[Myra] Here, here's the thing...
It's never gonna work.
It's just not in the cards, I don't think, unfortunately,
- and I hate that... - [Shaun] Now that you've heard...
- ...but... - [Shaun] At the beginning, you heard what she said,
that he could not put Jen before his family.
- [laughs] - Yes.
- Yeah, we heard that. - And that is a problem to me.
[Jeymi talking in Spanish]
[Gabriel in English] He knows that the relationship would be better if he moves out
but he is, is still there, that's his choice.
What do you think is holding him back?
- [Debbie] I think he wants the best of both worlds. - Yeah.
- He-- - And doesn't wanna commit.
[Gabriel] He has his, his, his mom babying him
where it's like, do I wanna be in my Mom's house or do I wanna grow up?
- [Myra] Exactly. - [Randi] Yes.
Do you feel like Rishi is not grown up?
[Gabriel] No, mmm-mmm.
And I'm like, "I'm telling you this, bro, you don't got no balls,
you gotta stick up for your woman."
I think what we're forgetting here
is just, like, how insanely difficult it is
to break with tradition, even if we want to.
It's, like, so hard.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
I don't agree.
It's obvious.
She moves to his whole country for you and you're not even supporting her.
You just gotta, you've gotta put your foot down and stand up for her.
- Exactly, exactly... - [all laughing]
[Jen] ...because he keeps saying, like, "My family's eventually gonna come around."
And I'm like, I'm not waiting for your family to come around.
[Shaun] So, after you broke up in India and then came back,
how long were you two apart?
I wanna say six months...
Did you start dating other people during that time?
[Jen] No, but, that's actually another thing,
like, I-- Rishi's the first guy that I've ever actually been in love with.
I was never willing to be vulnerable before.
I was always one foot out the door, right, am I wrong?
- You're right. - [Jen] I mean, even the guys that I was, like, crazy about,
like, I was never in love.
So, this is, kind of, new territory for me.
[Gabriel] Weren't you, like, married before?
- [Jen] Yeah, I was. - To somebody that--
- Ain't that sad? - [Gabriel] Then, why did you get married
if you're not in love with them?
[Kris] You think you are at the time.
And then you realize, "Wait, that... No, I wasn't."
- [Shaun] Mmm-hmm. - It was a strong infatuation.
Rishi, during those six months that you and Jen were apart,
did you ever hookup with anybody else?
Never, like, reached out, had a phone conversation with anyone?
[Shaun] Okay.
- Uh... - [Shaun] All right, ladies, uh, you look kinda skeptical.
[Randi] Well, uh, as you guys know,
I've sent Rishi message as myself...
- Exactly. - [Gabriel] Mmm-hmm, yeah.
[Randi] And he wanted me to call him,
wanted to meet up, he sent me a shirt-less photo.
[Myra] Yeah, there was a lot more...
- [Randi] That's a little shady. - [Myra] That wasn't shown.
- [Randi] Yeah. - Because there was some more,
- uh, that he sent to you in your DMs. - What--
- [Randi] Yes. - What else did he say
- in the DMs that we didn't see? - He, well...
It was inappropriate.
Uh...
[Rishi in Hindi]
[Shimla in Hindi]
[Rishi in Hindi]
- [Shaun in English] What else did he say in the DMs... - [Randi] He--
- Well... - [Shaun] ...that we didn't see?
It was inappropriate.
[Rishi speaking]
From you or her?
[Gabriel] Who was being inappropriate?
- Were you being... - Uh...
[Gabriel] ...inappropriate in the message
or was she being inappropriate in the message?
[Gabriel] She was?
- No. [scoffs] - Oh, it's all my fault.
That's all I wanted to know, 'cause I'm like, who's being inappropriate?
'Cause it sounds like you being inappropriate.
Did you send a picture
- with your shirt off, Randi? - I sent no photos of myself.
How vapid are you, Rishi?
I saw it on your feed.
Oh, you asked for a shirtless pic.
- I said, "Show me a special part of you." - [Debbie laughing]
[Daniele] I guess it could have been, uh, it could have been worse.
I think if you ask Yohan for a special part, he'd send a very different photo.
[all laughing]
Rishi's got no game, y'all, I, I just have to
- put that out there. - Apparently he got a lot of game,
look, you're...
- [laughing] - [Randi] I love you, but excuses.
Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Jen is a treasure.
- [Myra] She is! - [Debbie] This is a treasure.
- [Myra] She is. - [Debbie] And, and, and you're not treating that treasure...
You know, it's like, come on.
I have a feeling that he's probably been with other women.
Do you think he was with other women
during the time that they were broken up, that six months?
Probably.
[Shaun] All right,
while Jen and Rishi were making plans to get married,
Rishi's family was completely unaware he was even dating.
Ultimately, they found out and refused to bless the union
which led to Jen and Rishi's break up.
But Rishi considers himself engaged to Jen
and has stated that his family is aware of their relationship.
Now, it is time to clear the air once and for all.
Please welcome Rishi's Mom and uncle.
Oh, boy.
[Jen] This is gonna be fun.
[Shaun] Hi, Mom and uncle, how are you?
[Shimla in Hindi]
[Shaun in English] Shimla, let me ask you,
how do you feel knowing Rishi and Jen are talking and even hanging out again?
[Shimla in Hindi]
[Gabriel in English] That's what he keeps telling them,
is that, that you're just his friend.
[Shaun] Okay.
So, Rishi says, that he and Jen are engaged again,
that Jen is his fiance.
How do you feel about that?
[Shimla in Hindi]
[in English]
[in Hindi]
[Shimla in English]
[in Hindi]
[Isabel in Spanish]
[in English] We were all here and we heard with our ears.
We asked him,
"Does your family know that you're engaged and you're with Jen?"
He says, "Yes, they know."
So, apparently, they don't know.
'Cause he don't tell the truth, he's just lying about everything.
[Shaun] Rishi, is there anything you wanna tell your Mom and uncle right now?
Mummy...
[Shimla in Hindi]
[Rishi in Hindi]
[in English] Okay, I, I want our translator to confirm what Rishi just said.
[translator] He said that now they have started off with a relationship again
and he is thinking about getting married to her.
So, he's not gonna say that they're engaged, like he told us?
[Rishi speaking]
[Shaun] Rishi, do you plan to marry Jen?
- Yes. - [Shaun] Okay.
Like within a year? Within six months?
[Rishi speaking]
It's just a new excuse.
[Mahmoud speaking]
All you have to say is, "Mom, I'm engaged."
- We're getting married. - [Gabriel] I told everybody
that I'm, that I'm engaged and now we're getting married,
but you won't even say it to her.
[sighs]
[Rishi speaking]
Okay, well, Rishi's Mom had given her blessing for Jen and Rishi to marry,
but she changed her mind in a private meeting with Rishi and his uncle.
Let's take a look.
[translator in Hindi]
[Shimla speaking]
[translator speaking]
[Shimla speaking]
[in Hindi]
[Rishi in English]
[sighs]
[Rishi speaking]
[sighs]
How did you feel, Jen, seeing him say
that he would choose his family?
I hadn't seen that, yeah, but...
Uh, um...
Annoyed.
I'm just... I'm so annoyed, it's like,
Rishi and I have a good time together, I love him,
but at this point, it's like, I, I don't know if this is going anywhere.
- [Myra] It's not. - [Randi] No.
It's not, there's so many factors involved with this.
[Daniele] I feel like
we are giving Rishi so much [bleep] for, like, just saying what everybody wants to hear,
but his mother also says what everybody wants to hear.
So, clearly, he's been learning this.
Like, everybody just tells everyone what they wanna hear
and nobody's honest with each other
- and that doesn't make any sense. - Exactly.
[Shaun] Let me ask Rishi's mom,
Shimla, I would like for you to speak, directly to Jen.
I love that.
[Shaun] Tell her how you feel.
[Shimla in Hindi]
[in English] So, if we were six months to a year apart...
I mean, that's just absurd, I'm sorry, like, I just can't, mmm. [sighs]
[Shimla in Hindi]
[in English] Yeah, we've heard that, but thanks for reiterating it.
What kind of small heart do you have, lady?
Did you teach your son to be that way?
[in Hindi]
[in English] Thank you, for that permission.
[scoffs]
I'm not gonna be age-shamed, I'm sorry.
[Jeymi in Spanish]
[in English] I think that's a good point because he keeps saying we're engaged.
[Jen] Okay, Rishi, if you wanna get married,
- you need to tell them... - Okay.
[Jen] ...that you plan to marry me
within, at least within the next year and a half.
Okay, but,
- uh, they will answer-- - Do it, no, no!
Tell 'em, right now.
[Jeymi] Come on.
- [Jen] Tell 'em! - Go, go.
[in Hindi]
[Shaun in English] Oh, well, let me ask the translator,
what did Rishi say?
[translator] Rishi said that all... everything is all right and I do... I love you a lot,
but I also love her and I've, uh, I've loved her from the beginning.
You didn't even tell her what I asked you to tell her.
And he never will.
[Rishi] I'm, I'm saying again the same thing,
- okay? - Yeah, you are, the same, [bleep]
- the same thing! - [Rishi] Yeah, yeah, yeah!
[Jen] I gotta be honest,
this is super frustrating.
[in Hindi]
[Myra in English] Daniele,
I think that you emasculated Yohan
and carried his balls in your purse.
I agree.
[in Spanish]
[Rishi in Hindi]
[Shimla in Hindi]
[Rishi in Hindi]
[in English]
- [Shaun] Oh, wow, okay. - [all applauding]
I don't know if I should be happy about that or not.
[Shimla in Hindi]
[Gajendra in Hindi]
[in English]
[sarcastically] Aw, thanks.
[Shaun] Jen, how do you feel now that Rishi has told his Mom
that he plans to marry you without her permission?
It sounds great,
but it's a lot of talk, not a lot of action.
You know what? If it happens, it ha...
otherwise, I mean, like, I gotta move on.
We shall see where this relationship is
in the next six months, a year.
All right.
Shimla and Gajendra,
thank you so much for giving us your time and your thoughts today,
I hope that your family can continue to work through everything.
Myra and Randi, it's been a lot of fun having you here.
Before I let you go,
my producer's telling me you have comments on the other couples.
- How much time do we have? - [all laughing]
[Randi] Um...
I think that Gabe and Isabel's story, it's beautiful, you know?
And I think your love is genuine.
And I think a lot of people need to look up to that,
so, I applaud you guys and wish you the very best in all of your endeavors.
Thanks, thanks again.
I think this beautiful woman right here in the pink, you are absolutely beautiful.
[Myra] Gorgeous.
[Randi] With a huge heart and, Oussama, I think you're, frankly, and ass [bleep].
[gasps] Oh.
[laughs]
Did you realize that, maybe, you were leading her on and wasting her time?
And how does that make you feel?
[Oussama in other language]
[Shaun] Ladies, do you have any other comments
about any of the other couples?
I do, I feel that Daniele...
With all due respect, I think that you emasculated Yohan
and, I think, carried his balls in your purse.
[laughing soundlessly]
[Myra] And it seemed like you wanted to take control
of the whole relationship.
I agree.
And I think he was really trying hard not to let that happen.
I mean, I don't think I can take away anyone's masculinity,
I don't think we live in a culture where, like, women have all the power.
[in Spanish]
[in English] If he wants to be the patriarch,
then he needs to pay all the bills, and I'll sit down and cook and clean.
- [Daniele] Yeah, like, no prob... I have no problem... - I hear that.
...taking on, like, the housewife role, bring it on.
But, you know, I can't do that and pay all the bills, you have to pick one.
[Nicole] Mmm-hmm.
[Shaun] Myra and Randi,
thank you for giving us your time
and all of your very candid thoughts today, I really appreciate it.
- [Shaun] Thank you. - [Myra and Randi] Thank you.
Jen and Rishi, I hope you continue to learn from each other
and possibly grow closer together.
Best of luck to the both of you, thank you.
Thank you.
- [Shaun] Okay. - [Jen mouths] Thanks.
We're gonna take a break and we'll be back.
[man speaking indistinctly]
I don't think Rishi is gonna do anything
- that it's gonna take to make this relationship go. - [Veronica] No.
Like, he's not gonna tell his mom anything,
I guarantee you, he's calling his Mom right after this
- to apologize. - Oh, a 100%.
- Like, "Oh, don't worry." - Yeah, uh, "I will never love her."
Let's be serious,
you know she wants to marry him and that's never gonna happen.
So, she's pretending like she doesn't wanna marry him
because she can't have what she actually wants,
which is just marriage but on her terms.
- Yeah. - Marriage, but not living in a family home,
marriage, but not having to wake up at 5:00 a.m. and make chai tea.
Do you think that Rishi's gonna finally, you know, [bleep] or get off the pot?
No way, he's gonna run away from it.
[Gabriel] You sit here, I'll put the table closer.
- Well, I think Jen held up like a real trooper. - [Gabriel] Mmm-hmm.
It's like, she's too good for him.
- Yeah. - She really is.
There's the lady, right there.
[Gabriel] Mmm, how do you feel?
[Jen] Oh, my gosh, I feel like... [stammers]
Like, his Mom, I mean, oh, my God.
If she said one more time, the 15-year-gap...
I was like, okay, um, you said it.
- [Gabriel] Yeah, yes. - I'm over it,
like, do you have to keep reiterating it?
- Or, like, can we be done with that? - [Gabriel] Mmm-hmm.
- That was uncouth and cold, I mean... - [Jen] It was!
Um, I, uh, I'm sorry, this is super tacky.
[Gabriel] Oh...
- Whoop, sorry. - Hi.
[Gabriel in Spanish]
[Debbie in English]
[Debbie] Okay, I like you guys.
[Debbie speaking]
[Daniele] I think, sometimes it's easy
to have a preconceived notion about an attractive man,
who, like, looks a particular way,
we make assumptions about how they behave in the street.
- I feel like I got the same thing... - Right.
...with Yohan, like, he's gorgeous, sick body,
like, we assume that he's constantly chasing women
when, in fact, it's... The opposite is true.
You know, he wants to keep you, he doesn't wanna lose you,
but he wants to keep you on the back burner.
I wouldn't be his fun-bunny
- if I were you. - [Jen] Oh, I'm not!
The only time I thought he was cheating
was... I was very infatuated in the beginning.
When I went back, I realized, okay, dude's got no game...
- [scoffs] - [Jen] ...he's super into me,
he'll give me his phone at any given moment, I was with him, like, 24/7.
Women were not coming on to him
and the women that I talked to were like, "He comes off as really arrogant."
And, like, for an Indian woman, like, he's not,
- like, what anybody's looking for. - [Myra speaking]
Her and I, while you were still dealing with family situation in India...
- Yeah. - ...her and I went to...
- [indistinct] - [Myra] Everybody there knew him,
- "Everybody knows me." - Everybody knows him in Jaipur.
And what are they saying?
[Myra] And they said, "Ooh,
your friend should run, he is not a good one to be married to."
And that was people that had nothing to do with any of this.
[Jen] Like, but what?
Like, if, if I could see, like, one example, like, I've... [stammers]
Look at his Instagram page, it's, like, all him.
[Gabriel] Look at the messages he sent,
but, it's like it's in your face but you don't wanna see it.
He, he kept asking her
when she's coming, when she's coming, "Call me, call me."
That's, that's like mentally cheating on you.
If I were to ev--
If I were to ever send a woman any message,
Strict... Isabel's, mmm, she won't have that.
- Yeah, no, you're right. - [Gabriel] She'll be like,
[in Spanish]
[all laughing]
[Gabriel in English] I know that it's...
It starts with a message.
And the, what, you got pictures, and then after, phone calls,
- and then you wanna meet up and look. - [Debbie] Mmm-hmm.
- It's the same thing. - Where's he gonna take 'em, his Mom's house?
[Gabriel] Well, they could have just got a hotel
and then just hung out, that's it, you wouldn't even know.
Okay.
So, I'm like, dang, that's messed up.
[Shaun] Debbie, what are your thoughts
on Yohan comparing sizes.
[Debbie] Your private parts are, basically, on display all over America
and you're always gonna be known as the guy with the big ding-dong.
[all laughing]
[in Spanish]
[indistinct chatter]
[indistinct]
[man] Three, two...
We've covered a lot of the emotional aspects of your relationships,
but now I want to get into the physical aspects.
And, yes, I am talking about S-E-X, sex.
Let's check out some of the more intimate moments from your relationships
and what some of our Pillow Talk cast members had to say as well.
- [Rishi] Mmm. - [Jen] Nice.
Mmm.
All right, it's been two years since he had a drink of Jen.
- Hmm, he's gonna have himself a Jen and Tonic. - [chuckles]
Mmm, I was actually thinking, like... [stammers]
Maybe, I'm not quite ready for you to spend the night, yet, because...
kinda wanna take things a little more slowly.
Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?
Ha ha, you know what I mean? Like, that would be so much simpler, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That cow ain't gonna wait,
- 'cause that cow wanna be milked. - [indistinct]
[Gabriel laughing]
[in Spanish]
[in English] I wouldn't say that my penis is [bleep] all the time
but I will say it's rigid and, so, I don't have a problem penetrating.
Like, there's no, you know... [blows raspberry]
Floppies over here, it's, it's ready all the time.
No floppies there? There's no floppies here.
No, and then there's thickness, too, boy.
We know what you're talking about.
[in Spanish]
- [Gabriel in English] No? - No. [laughs]
- Okay... [laughs] - [laughing] No.
[in Spanish]
Ha.
[in Spanish]
Oi.
Sí.
Sí?
[in Spanish]
- [in English] It's because the nerves is connected. - Mmm-hmm.
[in Spanish]
[in English] Both female and male bodies
have the potential to excrete, you know, fluid from the genitals.
And, the way that my surgeon did my surgery,
I am still able to.
And so it comes out. It just... It has a long way to go,
because my urethra is longer.
So that's why I still have fluid coming out.
Does it shoot?
Or does it drizzle?
Either way.
- [Isabel speaking in other language] - [Gabriel] Si.
[in Spanish]
[Yohan speaking Spanish]
[in English] Why does he wanna know his shoe size?
What's your shoe size?
It's... It's... It's a nice size.
They're gonna pull out their [bleep]
- and just see who's larger. - Ew!
Um,
- Fourteen. - Ah.
[speaking Spanish]
[both laughing boisterously]
[in English] That's kind of weird, yo, Yohan,
you losing points for me, man.
How you gonna ask another man if his penis is big?
Ah, Yohan, you're so crazy.
[Shaun] So, Daniele,
everybody on social media wants to know
about this height difference between you and Yohan.
And does it present any challenges in the bedroom?
[laughs]
Yeah. I mean, does it present challenges?
I don't think so.
I think, um, Yohan's really strong and I'm really flexible.
And so, we make it work. You know.
I think that, you know, there's a lot of acrobatics involved, at times.
I just think that, it makes sex a lot more exciting.
- You come to, like, his waist, right? - [Daniele] Yeah.
Yeah, I'm pretty short.
[speaking Spanish]
[in English] Debbie is, like, smiling away on that one.
- Okay. - [Debbie] Okay.
Debbie, what are your thoughts on Yohan comparing sizes?
Well, to be honest with you,
I thought it was...
not flattering.
Your private parts are basically on display, all over America.
And you're always gonna be known as the guy with the big ding dong.
I don't think he's got a problem with that.
No.
[Shaun] Of course not. Of course not.
Um, Debbie?
Oh, well, you know my story.
Mine is, like, temporary insanity.
I'm not attracted physically to young men at all.
I prefer a seasoned gentleman,
you know, around my age.
You know, and it's like,
yeah, it's a total bummer to fall in love with a 24 year old.
And it's like, no, no. This can't be.
But, it happened.
Nights in Casablanca?
Night in Casablanca is wishful thinking on Oussama's part.
Do you mind me asking, the last time
you were in an intimate relationship with someone?
Oh, gosh.
Wow. I'm in America. I'm working day and night,
takin' every job I can,
to pay for the bills there.
[speaking Spanish]
[Shaun in English] Do you mind me asking, the last time
you were in an intimate relationship?
Oh, gosh.
It's probably...
twelve years or more, may be 14 years.
Because, it is a special gift you give to someone,
that is valuable and treasured.
- I love that. - It's beautiful.
Yeah.
All right, okay.
Based on what we just watched,
with Gabe explaining the anatomy...
I gave way too many details.
- Oh, my gosh. Why am I saying this? - [Shaun] You didn't.
How does it work?
- [Gabriel] Um, so... - [Daniele] Like, I just wanna know how, where.
- Like, what's the process? - [Gabriel] All right. So, what I do is,
I get my penis, and then I...
put it in a vagina.
And it doesn't ever get [bleep]?
- It's always... - It's rigid.
It's rigid? Okay.
And so, what are you ejaculating?
- You're ejaculating... - It's the same as, like...
- [Daniele] Female ejaculation? - Yeah.
This is fascinating.
So you've just proven that women [bleep].
Because this is... There's, like, this big argument, right?
I can do that. Oh, I hate that word.
Um, so I can do that.
But, if I don't, then it's just, like,
I never really thought about it.
[speaking Spanish]
[in English] Um, yeah. So...
When you start taking testosterone, your clitoris grows.
It doesn't grow a lot, but it gets bigger. Enlarged.
Okay. So the clitoris gets bigger
- and does the clitoris turn into a penis? - No.
- So where does the penis come from?
- Is it a prosthetic? - No. So, it's...
Either you can use a forearm, but I have a whole bunch of tattoos.
I don't want a penis with tattoo.
So I used my thigh, 'cause it's not very visible.
And then they, roll it in a penis size.
And then they connect--
Oh, so it's like, when the girls get, like, their fat
taken from their stomach and put in their ass.
You just put yours in your penis.
Okay. That I understand.
And so... And so the nerves to the [bleep], they,
connect them and reroute them and stuff.
- That's dope. - I have erotic sensation,
tactile, and I can feel hot and cold.
Wow.
Like, even if the shower is, like, really hot, like, [grunts].
You know, I think a lot of people were wondering,
Isabel said she couldn't tell the difference.
Now, is that right, Isabel?
Could you tell the difference between
Gabe and someone who was born male?
[speaking Spanish]
[in English] Feels like a custom-made penis.
Yeah. I got to pick my size.
- Really? - Yeah.
I think I can guess what size it is,
because, she was like,
[speaking Spanish]
- [all laughing] - [Jen in English] Right?
All right. So Gabe, how did you decide...
what size you were going to get?
Um...
I use Google a lot.
So you Googled how big you want your penis to be?
I put "average male penis size".
And then you added three inches?
[all laughing]
How long did it take you to heal?
First, I had a complication.
They put me under, I had surgery.
And then I woke up, and I was like...
I only got balls.
And so I'm like, I have this.
Like a bandage on my leg and I only got balls.
And then they explain to me that I didn't have enough nerves on this leg.
So they took the skin off and then they slapped it back on.
It took may be, like, three weeks for me to walk regular.
- Wow. - And then,
for me to actually work, it was probably, like, three months.
And then, for me to pee, it was, like, nine months,
- for me to pee. So I had a catheter in. - Whoa.
- For nine months? - Because I had a complication
with my urethra, also and it closed.
So I was unable to pee.
- Wow. - [Shaun] Wow.
People say that I'm crazy and I'm this.
Oh, you know, trans is a choice.
You think I would choose to do this?
Like, that sucks.
- Thank you for being so vulnerable. - Yes.
- [Gabriel speaking] - And so open and honest and educating us.
You taught us all something, this evening.
- So-- - Yeah, people learn from me, whether they want to or not.
- [all laughing] - Yeah, they do.
Thank you very much. And thank you everyone for opening up
on such a personal level.
Hopefully, that wasn't too awkward for you all.
What would you change about your penis?
- Mmm. May be I would make it, like, glow in the dark. - [blows raspberry]
I mean, if I can pick my size, like...
I don't know. You don't wanna go too big,
and girls be like, no thanks.
But like, you wanna be, at least have a backup plan to be a porn star.
- Oh, okay. - Yeah.
All right. Right now I wanna talk to Kris and Jeymi.
These two had never met in person before
Kris flew to Colombia.
And just nine days after Kris' arrival,
they demonstrated their love with a wedding ceremony.
But unfortunately, the good times didn't last very long.
[Jeymi speaking]
You wanna talk about money, but,
- the house you've got is $150 dollars more a month, - [Jeymi speaking]
...than what I agreed to.
- I... - I have something. Wait.
Lower your voice right now,
- Ohhh. - Or you're...
- We're done. - [Jeymi speaking]
You wanna scream at me?
You'll be done.
Lower your voice.
I'm done.
I'm [bleep] moving out.
I'm getting on my, [bleep] and I'm leaving.
And I'm done. You can do whatever the hell you want. I don't care anymore.
I don't care.
- Okay. - I'm done.
Find somebody else to pay your [bleep] bills.
[Jeymi speaking]
- She may be, she say... - You're talking. Just be quiet.
May be she say...
I love her for your things.
Or I want your things, and this is not true.
- Your thing is your things. - I didn't say that one damn time.
- I know what I've been talking. - I no talk to you.
- [bleep] Ridiculous.
- [Kris] Ridiculous - Oh, yeah. Very ridiculous.
Get the [bleep] away from me.
I came over here to be away from you.
Get the [bleep] away from me.
- [Jeymi] I no talk to you. - Go away!
- Go away. - What happen? No.
[bleep] away!
- [woman] Stop. Stop. - Get away.
She is a [bleep] crazy. Do you look?
This is her [bleep] crazy. No me.
[Shaun] Kris.
What do you think watching that back?
[Kris] Um...
I deal with anger, by leaving.
If I get mad, I will leave.
Don't try to stop me. Don't grab me. Just let me leave.
I will calm down and I will come back.
Because, if you try to stop me,
I... black out.
[Gabriel] That's crazy.
[Kris] It's um...
just a defense mechanism.
[Shaun] Jeymi.
I see you're very emotional over there
after listening to Kris and after watching that video.
What were you thinking as you were watching it back?
[speaking Spanish]
[in English] You're right. It is absurd.
It's absurd to be told to my face
that I'm causing you to financially struggle
when you're the one that wasn't working.
While I'm in America, I'm working day and night.
Takin' every job I can,
to pay for the bills there.
And, all I get from her is, you need to be here.
[speaking Spanish]
[in English] When I found out she was cheating on me for the second time,
I left work mad, and upset and I flipped my car,
and she was terrified, because she knew
that I could've died because of my health injuries.
The lies that you didn't know about my health injuries is [bleep] bull [bleep].
- [Jeymi speaking] - [Kris speaking]
[Jeymi speaking Spanish]
[whispers] Wow.
[speaking Spanish]
[Kris] I sent her one payment from my bank.
Yes, there was only payment from my bank made.
I gave money to my mother to send to her another time.
How much money all together have you sent Jeymi?
In total, in the whole relationship, about ten grand.
- Between that and the stuff, the expenses, we bought... - [Jeymi speaking in English]
...and did together when I was there.
Yeah, but that doesn't count.
[speaking Spanish]
[Shaun in English] Okay. So Jeymi,
all in all, all total.
How much money do you think that Kris has given you?
[speaking in Spanish]
[scoffs]
[Shaun in English] Okay. There is a big difference between
- $1,000 and $10,000. - [Kris] I spent more than that.
Just on the clothing for her, when I was there.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Do you think that Jeymi was only with you for your money?
No. I don't think that.
I think that she took advantage
of the fact that I worked hard,
and she knew that she could ask for something and I'd give it to her.
Even through everything, you know,
I just wanted her to understand that
everything I was doing when I was away, was for her.
I was working day and night.
Going days without sleep.
Just trying to make enough money,
so that we could do something there and have something.
I was doing stuff for our future,
and trying to provide.
[speaking in Spanish]
[in English] I never wanted that apartment.
We looked at several apartments that were affordable and bigger.
But, something always happened with her,
and that wouldn't work.
So she got this apartment.
And, in the same thing was her saying that,
- she didn't know about my physical... - [Jeymi speaking]
uh, my health issues.
She knew about all of them.
Because, when I found out she was cheating on me for the second time,
I left work mad, and upset, and I flipped my car.
I rolled my car, and she was terrified,
because she knew that I could've died, because of my health injuries.
The lies that you didn't know about my health injuries is [bleep] bull [bleep].
- [Jeymi speaking] - [Kris speaking]
I think my biggest problem with this is that,
you guys went in to a commitment together,
and you just left her with, like, what's left.
There's no debt.
Jeymi, is there debt?
- Are you in debt? - [Kris] Unless she stayed in the apartment
for months and months and months,
accruing bills, and all she had to do was say something to me.
I would have paid to help her move.
I would have put stuff in storage.
I would have done anything. Still would have.
Just like today, I would still help her move to America today.
I would sponsor her to come here.
[speaking in Spanish]
[exhales heavily] [in English] Okay.
That's your own fault. You chose it.
Trust made me out to be the bad guy,
and all I did was try to give her a better life.
And I gave her everything she asked me for.
- Everything. - [Jeymi] No, no, no, no.
[speaking in Spanish]
[in English] It's very convoluted.
And so I'm getting, kind of, like, lost
in... in the details.
Kris and Jeymi, what is the status of your marriage today?
There is no marriage.
[Shaun] Okay.
I wanna bring out Tim and Veronica right now.
I know they have some strong opinions and questions,
for both Kris and Jeymi.
Please welcome Tim and Veronica.
- [Veronica] Hi there, guys. - [Tim] Hi, everyone.
I want you to jump in on this conversation.
What do you think is going on here?
[Tim] After hearing some details about, like,
cheating and just some of the other things you said,
I'm kind of, like, whoa. We didn't hear the whole story here. So...
When I caught her cheating the first time,
and she begged me to take her back,
and that she... the other person meant nothing to her.
And then all of a sudden, that same woman contacts me, and says,
"Are you having any... Are you still talking to Jeymi?"
I found out about her...
talking to somebody else.
Six months ago, I found out
that Jeymi was talking to a woman from Texas.
I received a message from this other woman.
She found me on social media.
She told me that Jeymi was using me for money.
When I confronted her about it,
Jeymi denied it.
Jeymi, she was playing both of us.
Saying the same thing to both of us.
That she loved the other one
and that she didn't have anything to do with the other one.
[speaking in Spanish]
[in English] And, I mean, you want me
to bring out the texts and show all that too?
Do you have those texts, Kris?
Oh, absolutely.
When you say cheated, did she have a relationship with this person?
She had the same relationship with her, that she had with me.
We had never met either.
But we're talking about marriage and businesses,
and being together and loving each other.
If you're telling me, you love me,
and you wanna be with me and you wanna marry me,
and you're telling somebody else the same thing,
you're a piece of [bleep].
So, Kris, can you find any of those texts?
Yeah. I mean, I can show you the ones.
Oh, my God. Uh-uh.
It's very easy for a predator
to take advantage of Kris.
Are you calling Jeymi a predator?
Yes.
So, Kris, can you find any of those texts?
Yeah. I mean, I can show you.
Well, can you read them for us?
I mean, no. 'Cause they're in Spanish.
Oh, my God. Uh-uh.
[Kris speaking]
Kris, was this before you were married or after?
[Kris] This is before.
- Oh, so you guys [indistinct]. - [Kris] Yes.
- That's still... - That's what I just can't get around.
- What? - Because you haven't met. And then you go for months.
[Kris] She sent me pictures of them,
FaceTiming each other in the shower.
No, no, no, no.
Since Veronica speaks Spanish,
- we want you to read us... - [Veronica] Oh, yeah.
...these text messages.
The other person says, "Essentially I'm in l... I really like you".
Um, and then...
Jeymi says, "[speaking Spanish]".
[in English] "I like you more."
Your face, your lips, your hair, your eyes,
your breasts, uh, your hands, everything about you.
[Kris] I'm not the [bleep] crazy one.
I loved her and I still wanted to make things work.
Even after all that, because,
she was the first person I ever loved, that was female.
Jeymi, you admit to sending those texts to that other woman?
- [Shaun] Okay. - [Jeymi speaking]
[Shaun] Now...
- Okay. - Only 'cause I have proof.
[Shaun] Um...
Did you consider that cheating on Kris?
- [Jeymi speaking] - [Kris speaking]
Because she was calling me when I was at work,
30-50 times a day.
And they had to take my phone away,
because she was blowing at my phone so much,
because I wasn't responding to her texts right away.
I'm not gonna lose my job for anyone.
No. It was three months later,
and you had been telling her
- the same things you were telling me. - [Jeymi speaking]
Jeymi, did you cheat on Kris twice,
- while Kris thought you were in a relationship? - Three times.
- [Jeymi] No. - Three times.
- [Shaun] Three times? - [Jeymi] No. Only one.
Uh, the two times. The third time,
she befriended her on her instagram,
after I had moved to Colombia.
And, this chick's, you know, liking all of her photos,
and responding to her photos, and she's like,
"I didn't know she was on there."
- Bull [bleep]. - [speaking in Spanish]
[in English] You know if somebody's
respondin' and likin' your pictures in Instagram.
So she's admitting to cheating once.
I wanna know from Jeymi, why did Jeymi cheat?
Kris, Jeymi keeps saying that you disappeared for 20 days.
- [Kris] No. It was five days. - [Jeymi speaking]
No. It was five days.
Okay. Was it five days or was it a month?
That's a big difference. Five...
- It was five days. - No!
I see in this relationship, between Kris and Jeymi,
there is a giver and there is a taker.
Kris is the giver. Jeymi is the taker.
And I know it's very easy to manipulate someone
that's suffered, because they're looking for acceptance and love.
And it's very easy for a predator
to take advantage of kris.
- Are you calling Jeymi a predator? - Yes.
- [Shaun] Oh, wow. Okay. - [Jeymi speaking]
[Gabriel] I don't agree.
I don't agree, either.
What's making you so emotional, Kris?
Because even seeing her now...
I love her, and I would do anything for her.
No matter all the [bleep] that we went through,
it kills me...
that we're having to sit here and talk about this [bleep], because--
All she said is that, she wanted you to call her.
Like, can you understand? Regardless of how many days it was,
you said that... you said it was three days.
She said it was 20. Doesn't matter.
But for three days, you didn't talk to her.
I understand, you can't talk at work.
But when you get home, when you're in the toilet,
you can send a quick text, "Hey, sorry. Crazy day at work.
Love you. Can't wait to talk."
[speaking in Spanish]
[Jeymi speaking in English]
- Wow. - [Jeymi speaking in English].
That's a lie.
That is a straight out lie.
[Kris] But that's what she does.
She's gotta put a lie in there to make her look like
she's not as awful as she was.
[Jeymi speaking in Spanish]
- [Jeymi speaking in English] - That's all a lie.
[Shaun] Next time on, 90 Day Fiance, The Other Way,
the couples tell all.
Who was the woman?
I don't know. Some girl from China.
You definitely crossed some lines there.
Yes. It was totally inappropriate and you know it.
My advice to Nicole is to get a divorce.
Kris, do you have receipts for how much you spent?
It was on a bank account I no longer have.
'Cause they thought somebody stole my identity.
[speaking in Spanish]
[speaking in English]
Why is it that every relationship,
you always have a problem with somebody?
I... I don't wanna offend Isabel.
I didn't think I was that disappointed,
but this tidal wave of emotion, just hit me all at once.
Hey. Your mom thinks that I'm too old.
You know, and I'm like, [bleep] her.
It's just so [bleep] hurtful.
And if I ever hear her say that ever again...
we will never speak again.
- Never. Never! - [speaking]
[Yohan speaking Spanish]
[in English] It just feels ridiculous.
He throws, like, temper tantrums.
So it's like, I have to leave him.