♪ Let's do it up in the club, yeah, my time is now ♪
♪ I adore the applause, yeah, my time is now ♪
♪ And pull me up, yeah, we strong, yeah, my time is now ♪
♪ My time, my time, my time, my time, my time ♪
♪ My time is now ♪
- Thank you, thank you. - Thank you.
- Sunny in California. - Mm-hmm.
Thank you, babe.
This is the best part of the year for me.
It is? Really?
Why? Wrapping everything up?
Wrapping it up and, you know, seeing people's faces after
they talked about you behind your back.
- Oh. - Hmm.
- Oh, go on in, baby. - Yep, me and this one leg.
- Good morning. - Hey.
Well, she tore her meniscus.
It's warm in here.
- Back in LA again, baby. - Y'all ready?
- We came. - Let's do this.
We came, we came to get it on.
We're here again. We're here again.
Take two.
Just get ready for the drama.
- For sure. - You know what's coming.
Oh.
- Destiny Payton. - What's up, Dutchie?
Welcome to LA. How you feeling?
- Um... - You back at the reunion?
You feel like this gonna be any different from
last year or what? What's your thoughts on that?
I hope it's different from last year.
I hope we get resolve.
Tisha's projecting versus facing what really is going on.
Ready for today, y'all. We got no props.
We ain't got nothing to bring on stage this year.
- We ain't got nothing. - Oh, we need a couch
so I can go to sleep. - We're chilling. We're chilling this year, y'all.
That's the only difference between this room
and this room. - Oh, we need a couch.
- We need a couch. - Go get your couch over there.
Knock, knock. Kimmi, it's Marsau.
- Can y'all bring my couch out? - Nope.
- It's hot over there. - I want my couch.
That's because we're not turning on the air.
- Oh, we're cutting on the air. - That's my bed.
Y'all know that y'all got demoted this year, right?
- It's 70, Reece. - You get no couch.
- It's not gonna be on 70 long. - It's 73.
Let's take it out on the battle floor.
On the battle floor? Out there?
- Let's take it out on the reunion. - Kimmi is such--
Kimmi is being such a diva.
She's spoiled, ain't she, Tisha?
Hey, Markus.
Hey, hey. Where you at?
Um, I am trying to get the last minute shopping done.
You know, my suit didn't come in yesterday, man.
How long it be before you get here?
Um, so I'm not sure how far we are away.
Keep us posted and then...
Yeah, just keep us posted on time.
I'll go talk to Carlos now.
I wonder what, uh, Carlos got in store for us.
- I know it's probably-- - Messy.
Nah, I think it'll be cool. I think today's gonna be...
- Nah, today's gonna be some messy [bleep]. - Yeah, yeah.
- Yo, aye. - Hey, Markus.
- What you want, Markus? - I just talked to Martell.
He's out right now at the mall trying to find a suit.
He's where?
Hey.
You came from Huntsville to Los Angeles
on a first class flight with no suit in hand?
Hey, it didn't come in from Paris, man.
- Your suit's in Paris? - It's in Paris, yeah.
Martell! Get your ass here ASAP.
- All right, Carlos, on my way. - Bye.
There's been a lot of lies been said around this park.
Chris, his license, all the nice, little things
Chris likes to say about y'all behind y'all back.
Let me get these pills in my body so I can get on out here
and give somebody a piece of my damn mind.
The medication is helping me get this leg right in case
I have to goddamn use them. - No, not a foot in the ass.
Stand by for top of show.
Let's start grabbing seats, please,
thank you. - I'm on time.
I show up.
These look nice.
Three, two, one.
Welcome to our Season 10 reunion.
I'm the show's creator and your reunion host,
Carlos King.
Let's welcome our cast and bring out
Huntsville's finest.
First up, we got the stunning Tisha and Marsau Scott.
- Hey, baby. - Hey.
- You look gorgeous. - Thank you.
- Oh. - Marsau, now.
I'm glad you gave me a compliment.
Hi, boo. You like it?
- I do. - You do?
- What's up, brother? - Sup, brother, you good?
- How's it going? - Can't complain, brother.
I need to know if bald have more fun.
- Oh. - I'm married, sir.
So, yes, obviously.
Anywho, next, we got the dazzling
Destiny Payton.
Yes, Destiny. Little gingerbread.
- Hey, Poison Ivy. - You look beautiful.
- Thank you. - I like your new hips.
- Thank you. - The hips don't lie?
- Just like this hair. - Sit down!
You're so messy!
Up next, we got the breathtaking Kimmi
and her husband, Maurice Scott.
- Woo! - Hello, hello.
- The girls are out today. - Hey, they came to play.
Cagney and Lacey. Hi, beautiful.
- Hi, Carlos. - Hello, you good?
- You ain't worried? OK. - I'm not worried.
None of y'all should be.
Next, we got the ever so charming Martell Holt.
All right, man.
All right.
OK, here we go.
Coming back to our five count in
five, four...
How you doing, man?
All right.
Here we go. Get the momentum back up.
Appreciate you all.
This is your seventh reunion.
Get it together.
Anywho, let's welcome Martell Holt.
- Woo! - Woo!
Let's go, baby! Let's go, let's go!
- What's happening? - Hi!
- How you doing? How y'all doing? - Great.
- How y'all doing? - Doing good.
Smile a little bit, smile a little bit. What's up?
Well, you know you like to always look like me.
Oh, I dressed down today, so you can win a little bit.
- I'm copying you to-- - About time you took it on off.
Up next, we got the fit and fabulous Tricia Reedus
and Ken Lee.
Woo!
Come on, Trish. You look amazing.
- Hi. - Hi.
- She's so nervous. - I love this blazer.
- I appreciate y'all. - It looks good.
- Y'all are real friends. - How you doing?
- What up, big dawg? - Hey, beautiful.
And next, we got the sophisticated
Nell and Chris Fletcher. Yes.
How's it going?
Muah.
- You look gorgeous. - Thank you.
- What up, Fletch? - Yes, I'm good, brother. How you doing?
- You know. - I won.
- No, you did not! - I won.
- Who won? - Come on.
Uh...
Did you see that Chris got, like, the wrist got something
going on? - He got the red bottoms.
He got the red bottoms.
All right, so how y'all feel? It's your 10th season.
We have a lot to get into, so let's get
this party started. Guess who's first?
Kimmi and Maurice, also known as the Scotts 2.0.
For the past seven years, Kimmi and Maurice have built
their lives together as a blended family.
But now that Jaylin has a place of his own and Monster is
heading to college, Kimmi and Maurice are facing
a whole new chapter as empty-nesters.
Let's take a look.
What's important to you, right, is more time.
And what's important to me is sex.
If I give up more of that time, like let's say we set
an extra day or two per week, could those be like, sex days?
What?
So the time that you're giving me is going to be sex?
It's gonna be more time with you, though.
Was it not normal before?
What we not gonna do is keep playing in my face
about it. You can count.
You can determine where we were, when those days
happened, when it was more than once,
and this, that, and the other.
You were building, laying floors, laying carpet,
putting up cabinets, all that stuff that I would come and get
turned on watching you do that you simply don't want to do.
It was never communicated to me early on that these are
the terms of our relationship.
It wasn't communicated to me early on that I was supposed to
have sex two and three times a day.
- Why did you marry me then? - I'm not mad, Maurice.
You've grown, and you've grown into the attorney,
soft-hand era.
What's your deal-breaker?
From some of the divorces we've had to watch,
and the children, and the things that we've
watched families go through,
it changes a lot.
I really, I would like to believe that our marriage
can withstand [bleep]. - Fidelity.
- Hmm. - So, Maurice.
Yes, sir.
Your hands are soft.
Woo.
- Soft girl era. - What I'm not is a liar.
Oh, god.
So let's, let's talk about this soft hands era
that you're in, OK?
Do you not like using your hands to build?
I always like creating.
I never liked actually doing the building.
I like the idea of creating, thinking something,
and, you know, bring it to fruition.
Have you worked on not needing sex five times a week?
We never did the whole five days a week.
And, like, he would be a liar to say it hasn't been
three, four times a day.
- It's been that on occasion. - A day?
However, you gotta have me in that space.
You're not like rough talking me and then like...
- Wanting it after that. - ...want to get some.
- That don't work. - I'm not into just, you know,
I want to get off, too.
- Everybody want to get off. - Right.
Not wham, bam, thank you, ma'am.
I do want to ask you this, because I'm sure you guys seen
a lot of the comments on social media.
A lot of people have considered you this season
the most hated husband.
You know, you have surpassed Martell Holt.
- How? - Really?
- And Marsau. - You know that's right.
People feel like you really are
an ass[bleep] to Kimmi.
And a lot of people, Kimmi, feel like because
you have this younger man as your husband, you are in
a marriage where you have to give him sex because you don't
want to be left alone. - OK.
Is there a part of you that feels there could be
a little bit of truth in that?
No.
I enjoy being alone.
Alone was OK with me.
If I have to be alone to be happy, I will be alone
to be happy.
Doing the cast trip,
there was a conversation that was brought up,
the topic of deal breakers. - Mm-hmm.
And what you have said in the past was that cheating was
a deal breaker for you and your marriage to Maurice.
- Mm-hmm. - Is cheating still a deal breaker
when it comes to you and Maurice?
For me, yes.
Would you forgive him if he cheated on you?
Coming up on the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion special--
What made you fall into the arms of another woman?
I had went and got another apartment.
Did you bring women back to that apartment?
Uh...
What does Destiny Payton think the real issue is that Tisha
has with you?
What Tisha said out of her mouth to me is,
"I either fight with you or I divorce Marsau."
Liar, liar, liar!
You absolutely said it at Kimmi's barbecue.
I've never.
Would you forgive him if he cheated on you?
As, as us, as us being married, I would like to say no.
I mean, that's a toughie for me.
I wouldn't be able to trust you.
Like, I don't know how I could trust again after that.
I just don't.
Um, we're gonna be bringing this up in therapy.
- Bring what up? - That last statement.
- This is new to me. - What's new?
- This is breaking news. - What's news to you?
- What's new? - What you just said.
- What? - That you wouldn't at least try.
I'm not worth a try? Like, if we got something...
For real?
Maurice, we've had issues
with you just looking at somebody wrong.
So, don't do that.
- Wow. - Don't do that.
Wow.
Maurice is by far the best man I ever met.
He is. Does he have flaws?
Yes. Absolutely.
Do I? Yes.
I do.
But I'll never be in
a situation where I'm mistreated,
um, and where there's not the, the desire to
want to do better.
I love you, and I want my heart to think that there are a lot
of people that make it through.
You just said I was the best man that you've ever met.
Hence the reason I would be broken.
- Wow. - OK, so it bothers you that,
God forbid, you cheated on Kimmi, right? - Mm-hmm.
- And she finds out, OK? - Mm-hmm.
You feel some kind of way that she wouldn't try to make
the marriage work despite your infidelity.
I'm deeper in this marriage than she is, is what
it sounds like to me.
Oh.
That's how you took it?
- I don't think that's fair. - Yeah.
- That's what it sounds like. - That's not fair.
I want to go to the Fletchers real quick.
You guys have been married for over 30 years,
and you guys have been very transparent about the infidelity
y'all experienced.
You're hearing the Scotts talk about this.
You obviously are still married.
How are you able to forgive Chris Fletcher
for his infidelity?
Well, the first thing I would say is you do not know
what you'll do until it's happened to you.
They've been together
almost, what, 10 years? - Married seven.
Right. It's easier to say,
"Oh, I will walk away," or, "I'm done, I'm out,"
until you placed in that situation.
Now you have to make some real clear, hard decisions.
Because love just do not go away just because
someone cheats.
Well, thank you for sharing that, Ms. Nell.
Before I go to break, I want to ask you this, Maurice.
Did a lot of your ideology about cheating being
a deal breaker change the moment you may have seen your friends
deal with infidelity, ending up in divorce
and seeing how their lives were after that?
Did that have anything to do with it?
I think, yes, that played a part in it.
But ultimately, it's about the person.
Like, Kimmi is special. Like, for real, I didn't...
I, I, I was really waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Like, this can't be true.
Like, this person can't be real.
So, yeah, no,
if, if, if she made a mistake, I'd be like, "OK, well,
why?"
Was it something that I've done?
Could I have done something better?
Because the person that I know, the character that she has,
I wouldn't believe that she'd just go out there
and do something like that. - Probably your fault.
Usually it's the guy's fault when a woman cheats.
- You believe that? - Hell no.
Well, listen, I'll say this much.
I believe what you two have is worth fighting for.
Obviously, I'm not wishing any of that on this marriage,
but what I will say is I applaud you two for continuing
counseling because, like Nell said, I think a lot of people
say it's a deal breaker until it's your reality.
That's right.
And then once it's your reality, I think you have to
look at the intention, and you have to look at
what I believe that you probably saw in Chris,
you gotta see the change.
But, luckily, Black men don't cheat.
There you go, bro. There we go.
So, ladies and gentlemen, we are just getting started.
This is the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion.
Coming up on the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion special--
What does spinning the block
mean to you, baby? What happened with this guy?
I just conversated with people.
And started talking to someone I used to talk to before.
Do you believe her, Ken?
I'm not gonna be a person to say, "What can I do?"
Let me grovel and figure out how we can
fix our friendship.
You have to be cautious of the words you say
when you're angry, because I am.
You did say, "Don't trust that hoe."
- I did. - We all say things in the moment we don't mean.
But I was right.
2
We're back with the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion.
All season, we have watched Ken and Tricia
navigate their on-again, off-again relationship.
They joined the show last season with their focus on
overcoming one major hurdle-- Tricia finalizing her divorce.
Can they unpack the past and finally start anew
after being off-and-on, off-and-on,
on-and-off, off-and-on again all season?
Let's take a look.
Most people move on first, and then they get divorced.
This is typically how the situation goes.
But they don't generally take seven, eight years.
- We had to take a break. - I'm sorry, say what?
Honestly, what's your biggest issues with Ken?
The aggression.
It's a lot.
Hey, I'm tired of this.
Like, I'm tired of the day-to-day struggles of
trying to keep you happy. You continuously embarrass me.
One of the ladies came back to me, and she was like,
"You need to go tell Trish that Ken be in these girls' DM."
A couple of DMs here and there, yeah,
I have done it. I am not gonna lie to you.
It's not that big of a deal to me.
Well, I spinned the block on someone.
I did. I'm not gonna lie.
I have been kicking it with old girl a little bit.
She's a lot softer. She's more feminine.
Y'all back together?
- Yes. - What the [bleep] are y'all doing?
Sometimes I do think about, like, hey, it might just be
best if I separate myself from this.
Just start fresh, you know what I mean?
She may not look like she's wanting to toast, but she did
say that her divorce was final.
Yay.
- The divorce is final. - Yes.
- It is. - Did you have mixed emotions
when your divorce to Marques was finalized?
Hell no.
Well, now that you're officially divorced, one thing
you said, Ken, was that the only issue that you
and Tricia had was Marques.
But what we saw this season was the constant breakups
and getting back together between the two of you.
What was going on in your relationship
outside of your ex?
I felt like a lot of the times I was taking,
I was the punching bag. I was taking a lot of the brunt
of the negative feelings that she had for him,
because truly, and we've talked about this,
I don't think they didn't do a proper separation.
Well, now that you're officially divorced,
what's going on in your relationship for you, Ken,
to move out and get a whole apartment?
Not to put words in your mouth, but, Ken, you slept with
another woman while you and her were in a relationship.
What made you fall into the arms of another woman?
Me and Tricia had definitely,
I had went and got another apartment.
- Um... - Did you bring women back to that apartment?
Uh...
No. It wasn't...
So, Imma be honest with you.
That apartment really wasn't an escape to go be with
other women. I was trying to eliminate
that negative tension in the house
with those kids. - It was messing with the kids.
It was. And then, sure enough,
it got in between Ken and I.
'Cause we started bumping heads,
and we started bumping heads, I'm telling you.
So, we split up a couple of times.
What made you spin the block, though, the time y'all did
break up? - I did not. Let's-- OK, OK.
- But you said it on... - I did, I did.
...I watched a TV show. You said it.
I did say that.
And then when you said it, you started doing this,
and, you know, I know how women are, right?
First of all, I was upset.
Thought she had an orgasm sitting there.
Destiny said you had an orgasm in the chair
when you said it. - I did not.
What does spinning the block mean to you, baby?
What happened with this guy?
OK, in the moment, I was pissed.
In the moment, I was like, "OK, if he doing [bleep],
I'm gonna go do [bleep], too." So I did.
The word came out wrong.
I said, "spin the block," but I did not.
What did you do?
I just conversated with people
and started talking to someone I used to talk to before.
You were conversing with another man?
- Correct. - And y'all went on a date.
- We did go walking. - Y'all went walking.
I'm reminding you what you told us, so yeah.
Y'all went on a date that was walking?
- Yes, we did go walking. - OK, did y'all kiss?
No.
Did y'all send nude photos to each other?
- I don't send nudes at all. - She don't even send those to me.
- I don't send nudes. I'm not sending no nudes. - OK.
So you spinning the block was having a conversation with
a guy that you knew before? - Yes.
It was somebody I talked to before.
OK. And do you believe her, Ken?
Baby, I'm sorry.
Coming up on the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion special--
While y'all were on a break, did you sleep with
another woman? - Yeah.
Was the woman you slept with you found in your DMs?
I wasn't in anyone's DMs that wasn't in mine.
You know what I mean?
Kimmi, do you understand how Destiny could be lost?
The difference, I think, with any of these altercations
is that I think Destiny says a lot of shady [bleep].
2 So you spinning the block was having a conversation with
a guy that you knew before? - Yes.
It was somebody I talked to before.
OK, and and do you believe her, Ken?
Baby, I'm sorry, but no.
Why you apologizing to her for spinning the block?
Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out.
None of us [bleep].
That's the guys clapping!
Yay, good job, Ken!
Go, Ken! Go, Ken!
- Go, Ken! - Hold on, hold on.
Look at Martell, who is nodding like a proud father like this,
"My boy." - That's his best friend, you ain't know that?
- That's right. - That's right, dog.
Look at him. He's so happy.
OK, why don't you believe Tricia?
I do feel like she was really hurt.
I do think that I kind of did break her trust.
Even though we were on a break, I still think she thought that
we were supposed to keep that standard.
You think she slept with this guy?
- Well, here's the thing-- - Hold on.
I'm talking to Kenneth.
Hold on, baby. - Hold on, let me-- let me--
Do you think Tricia slept with this guy?
- Can I be honest? - We want you to.
We had a conversation after the fact, and come to find out,
they had messed around before. - Ooh.
- So... - When you say before, before what?
This was well, well before, like, me and her even
got together. - That's the spin the block part.
With that being said, she told me that she was
dealing with the dude again. It was like,
yeah, of course.
You don't go back to something that you once had before
and, you know, y'all just walk in a park and--
- And it was good. - And she liked it.
- And it was good. - No, because...
- It's OK. - Wait a second.
- It's OK. - Y'all past it now.
- We're past it, right. - We are.
Even on y'all breaks that y'all had,
you never had sex with another man?
- No, no. - And everybody knows,
spinning the block is when you sleep with an ex,
a former lover, or something like that.
Tricia, you know they call you Tricia B. Lyin,
but I will say...
And those people are me.
You know I love you.
While y'all were on a break, did you sleep with
another woman? - Yeah.
You did? More than one?
- No. - Was the woman you slept with
you found in your DMs?
No, I wasn't in anyone's DMs that wasn't in mine.
You know what I mean?
That's exactly what he said.
- It is what he said. - It is.
Do you mean you don't initiate?
I don't initiate.
I'm not the type of person that's just gonna go now,
oh, she fine. "What's up, girl?"
"Aye, what's up?" "Aye, what's up?"
I don't do that.
Now, one thing we did see this season that I do want to
give you so much credit on is going to therapy.
Seeing you with Dr. Francis, really, I felt like opened up
the eyes to the audience based on, like Ken was saying,
the trauma that you had experienced.
And one thing about you as well, you do keep things
bottled up inside, right?
Did you realize that you had so much trauma backed up
that the moment, Trish, the moment you sat down with
Dr. Francis, within five minutes, you start crying,
getting emotional, and pouring things out?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just didn't want to bring up memories.
I didn't.
The memories of your parents?
Family, yeah.
Are you still continuing to see Dr. Francis?
- I will, yes. - OK.
And look, the reason why I wanted to bring that up to you,
Trish, listen, I know we all give you a hard time
sometimes, you know?
I'm proud of you for doing that.
It's not easy to, for the first time, go to therapy on camera
and then to immediately start opening things up.
So, listen, I adore the fact
that you allowed yourself to be seen that way.
I think it's gonna help you a lot, and I do
encourage you to continue seeing Dr. Francis, or just anybody.
Um, with that being said,
you're divorced.
Ken, you're back in the house.
I never really left, but...
Wedding bells for the two of you?
Is Tricia the woman you see yourself being married to?
For sure.
Like I said, on the outside looking in,
people will call me crazy,
but this woman has been one of the best things
that ever happened to me. - Mm.
Listen, I encourage you two to figure it out.
You know, I'm a fan of y'all.
I think, I think y'all two belong,
you know, with each other.
I really do.
You two are, like, made for each other.
Y'all have the same interests, the same likes.
Y'all look great together.
Y'all have the potential to be a big power couple.
So I would encourage y'all to continue going to therapy
and figuring this out.
- OK? - Yeah.
Coming up on the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion special--
And we always gonna clean up what you all don't think
is an issue. - What was the issue?
- Say it, like, right here. - You're not my mother.
You think you can be calm and say it right here?
I did that [bleep] with you once.
And I gave your ass grace once.
- You ain't give me [bleep], Nell. - Bitch, I gave you grace.
2 Welcome back to the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion.
I'm here with the ladies of the group.
- Hey, girls! - Hey.
- Hey, Carlos. - You know I love being with the girls.
This is a sister circle, and as y'all big brother,
I'm here to talk about things pertaining to just y'all
without the mens. - OK.
Because I feel like sometimes, who needs the men?
And because I'm newly bald,
consider me Maurice Martell or Marsau.
- Welcome to the bald club. - Look at you.
- Go aging. - Woo!
You finally just let that go, huh?
Oh!
You was, you was fighting. You was holding on.
All jokes aside, over the years,
Destiny and Tisha have built a beautiful friendship
on and off the show.
But this season,
we saw their sisterhood head south.
But is it too late to salvage their bond?
Let's take a look.
Who out of this group would you say has hurt you the most?
And how can you fix it?
Marsau, in the interview, I can guarantee that you
slept with 20 women since you've been married.
- That's a lie. - Destiny know Martell,
so she had to have an idea of how this was going to end.
You know she [bleep] too, right?
That was in college.
I didn't [bleep] Tisha when my boys are [bleep] her, OK?
I feel like you owe Tisha an apology.
What's up, what's up, what's up?
I can't sit at this table with the enemy without my husband
being here, so I'm going to dismiss myself
and y'all enjoy this. Bye.
Allegedly, I was told you left to go be there
for your new grandbaby. From LaTisha.
Let me tell you, see, that's the problem.
LaTisha Scott need to mind her own business.
Oh, so you was the bone carrier?
Ooh.
Does she feel like she owes me an apology?
- Who? - Ler-Nell.
- I mean... - I don't know.
I didn't ask her any of those questions.
I felt like you was defending Nell.
- In what way? - And I'm like, you can't be,
like, in the middle, but also take a side.
I think I know what box to put
everybody in. - What's the label on my box?
- Don't trust that hoe. - You betrayed me?
- You want to say I'm a hoe? - It was a figure of speech.
What you said to me was that,
"Oh, you don't defend me in rooms that I'm not in."
The only person that don't defend you is your husband.
- Oh, my gosh! - Wait a minute!
I can't believe you brought my husband into this.
[bleep].
- Whew. - That was a whole show.
So I want to ask you,
what was the pivotal moment in your friendship with Destiny
where you do feel like, don't trust that hoe?
For me, the reason I put her in that box was because,
OK, Martell is your friend, true enough, but I thought
I was your friend as well.
So when your friend is saying disrespectful things about
your other friend, you're laughing and giggling about it,
and like, "Oh, well, you know, I don't think that's true."
But you're, like, engaging in the conversation.
And then when she was talking to Nell, at the moment I needed
for her to defend me and take up for me, she didn't do it.
So I'm like, "Hmm."
You feel like your girl are friends with your enemies?
- Yeah. - And you feel like
when these people talk about you,
she does not defend you. - Right.
I just wanted the friend I've been to her,
I just wanted that in return when it was her turn to be
that friend to me. That's it.
That's all. That's all I was asking for,
and apparently it was too much, so...
How do you feel about that?
When she says that, when you are around Martell,
he talks about her, and she feels like you laugh
along with his jokes and the fact that there isn't
this blind allegiance that you have with her?
Um, I feel like it's a bunch of malarkey.
Let's go back to the first incident where she said that
I should have known what he was gonna say.
I had no idea what he was gonna say.
My whole point of the question was to get to a resolve.
Because the end of the question was, how can we fix it?
I had no idea he was gonna take it
back to her college past, had no clue.
And in that moment, I was the person that put
my physical body in between her and him
to keep him from getting close to her.
So-- yes, I did.
While your husband had you in front of him like a shield.
- So, let's be clear-- - This is my thing with Destiny.
- I let you talk, I did not cut you off. - You don't know exactly
what he's gonna say, but you knew
he was gonna do something crazy.
Is this what we gonna do? Because I let her talk,
I didn't say a word. - OK, go ahead.
Did I want him to say those things?
No, I didn't appreciate it.
And I told him he owed her an apology.
I don't know what more I could have done in that moment.
What do you think the issue is?
I don't know if there's a real issue with me, but what Tisha
said out of her mouth to me is, "I either fight with you
or I divorce Marsau."
- So, she chose me. - She's a damn lie.
- You did say that. - Damn lie.
- You said it at Kimmi's house. - Liar, liar, liar.
You absolutely said it at Kimmi's barbecue.
- I never, ever. - Let's be clear.
Hands on the Bible right now, girl.
You can stop. Don't be lying on me.
- You said that. - Don't be--
- I put that on my son. - That's the thing with you,
Destiny I'm tired of you [bleep] lying all the time.
- What'd I lie about? - What you don't lie about?
- Tell me one thing. - That what you just said was a lie.
Besides that, what'd I lie about?
- A bold-faced lie. - That's the truth.
2 What does Destiny Payton think the real issue is that
Tisha has with you?
What Tisha said out of her mouth to me is,
"I either fight with you or I divorce Marsau."
So she chose me.
- She's a damn lie. - You did say that.
- Damn lie. - You said it at Kimmi's house.
Liar, liar, liar.
You absolutely said it at Kimmi's barbecue.
- I've never-- - Was it Jaylin's birthday?
- Yes, Jaylin's birthday. - You talking about Jaylin's birthday?
- Did Kimmi hear that? - It wasn't in front of Kimmi.
- Kimmi didn't hear that. - Of course it wasn't in front of you,
because I didn't say it.
You think Tisha is using the destruction of
your friendship for a storyline.
- Yes. - And she started it.
How am I using it? You started it.
Girl, I just want people to be there for me
when I need them, like I'm there for them.
And I keep asking how could I have showed up different.
I'm not negating the fact that Tisha rolled for me.
And I've never negated the fact that she's been
a good friend to me. So for us to be here
in this space is crazy to me.
Because number one, Martell, they've been fighting for
decades before I even came around.
What am I supposed to do besides hold him accountable,
which I've done over and over again, more than anybody.
I tell him that he needs to apologize.
Tisha didn't deserve that. I care about her.
I really do. Like...
It's OK.
- Talk to me. - This is stupid.
And I don't want to be up here again with another friendship
that I'm so emotional about. I'm trying to understand,
like, what can I do? And honestly, it's like...
Well, talk to her. Ask her what can you do.
I've already done that. What I'm not gonna do...
- Go ahead. - ...is try to fix it alone.
I'm not gonna be the person to say, "What can I do?"
Let me grovel and figure out how we can fix our friendship.
No. I've owned my [bleep].
I've apologized for [bleep] that didn't even happen.
You laughed at me with Martell when he said, "No, I didn't."
You had me apologize for something that never
even happened.
So at this point, it's like, figure out what
your real issue is because that can't be it.
I cannot control another adult.
I will say this.
When it comes to this cast, especially everybody on
this stage, they don't call me for anything.
What I will say is the season before you came back, I believe
it was that season, Tisha did call me.
And she was in tears saying,
"I'm not gonna tell you Destiny's business,
"but can you find it in your heart to get Destiny to come
back on the show?" And she said,
"I am fighting more for Destiny
to come back on the show than my mother."
I said to you, "Destiny wasn't fired.
"She decided to leave.
"If Destiny wants to come back on the show,
have Destiny call me."
- You said, "Never say never." - I said, "Never say never."
And we did speak, but I will say this.
And Tisha told me about that conversation.
- OK, OK. - Mm-hmm.
You felt like you not only had her back on camera,
you also felt like off camera, you had this woman's back.
Yeah, because I wanted her to win.
She was going through a lot.
And I just wanted financially for her to win.
I wanted her to be in a better position, because she used to
talk to me all the time about her struggles and what
she was facing, what she was going through.
And I'm like, "What can I do as a friend to, like,
help her do better?"
That's all I ever wanted for her.
Listen, you see the emotion on her face.
I think everyone can see that Destiny is hurting.
- Right. - And you're hurting.
I don't think Destiny has done anything to you personally to
where you two can't move past it.
Do you agree with me?
Carlos, my thing is, um, you have to be cautious of
the words you say when you're angry, because I am.
You did say, "Don't trust that hoe."
- I did. - We all say things in the moment we don't mean.
But I was right.
You think she's a hoe?
I think I can't trust her.
- Well, Tisha, baby... - I don't think she's a hoe.
- No, let's put that out there. - OK.
And I apologize to her for saying that.
I do believe I cannot trust her.
OK, I want to bring in Kimmi in this conversation.
Tisha, you and Kimmi had y'all issues seasons ago.
You, too, felt like Kimmi did not have your back.
Obviously, this is family, and you got past it.
Kimmi, do you understand how Destiny could be lost?
Because at one point in time, during y'all issue,
you felt like you were lost.
The difference, I think, with any of these altercations
is that I love Tisha.
And there was never a moment I wanted to throw
a low blow or a dig.
And you could see multiple conversations that we had
when I felt like she was coming for me, and I let her.
Because if I came back the same way, we would end up
in a problem.
I would say, "T, you know I love you to your core."
Do you feel like the same thing is happening with Destiny
that is happening to you? - No.
I think Destiny says a lot of shady [bleep].
What did I say that's shady?
No. And I'm saying...
No, I'm starting at the beginning and not the middle
like you always say. - But where did I start there?
- Uh-oh. - Hey, Destiny. We're good.
We are good, but I'm having a conversation.
Destiny, this [bleep] here. Like, chill out.
I am chill, Kimmi. I'm having a conversation.
I don't have an issue with you.
Like, change your tone-- this is what I'm talking about.
- I asked you a simple question. - Start here.
I'm not gonna have this high-level conversation
with you because-- - You feel high-level, I don't.
I asked you a question, Kimmi.
And I'm trying to answer if you would shut your yap...
for two seconds. - Don't talk to me like that.
Because I'm not disrespectful to you.
- You just were! - I'm not disrespectful to you.
- Destiny, stop talking. - No, no.
You asked me, do I think it's the same?
- Yes. - This is why it's not the same.
Because I don't do that [bleep].
OK, I want to, I want to ask Nell.
Nell, do you feel like Destiny has the tendency to say things
that comes across as shade?
She can say some [bleep].
Everybody does that so why am I being singled out?
She can say-- that's what I'm getting at.
- Hold on. - OK, OK.
- Sorry, I got it. - She can say some shady [bleep].
But at the end of the day, we all say shady [bleep].
Nell, do you feel like you're one of the reasons why Destiny
and Tisha are at odds?
I think Destiny tried to fix something.
Destiny inserted herself in the middle because
she's friends with me and LaTisha.
I didn't insert. I got pulled.
When I came back around the friend group, y'all already
were having an issue and I didn't know it.
It started at her birthday party.
That is not...
Didn't y'all have a moment and you were like, "Don't get
out of my husband's face"? - Yes, yeah, we did.
We did have a conversation at Tricia's party about Tisha
and I not being transparent. - But we didn't have an issue.
I didn't think that there was an issue when
we left the party. - There wasn't-- we didn't have an issue.
- It was an issue. - I can say it was.
- It was an issue. - You feel like--
And we always gonna clean up
what you all don't think is an issue.
What was the issue? Say it, like, right here.
- You're not my mother. - We know that.
And you always trying to tell somebody what to say something.
You think you can be calm and say it right here.
I did that [bleep] with you once.
And I gave your ass grace once.
- You ain't give me [bleep]. - I gave you grace.
Bitch, you ain't got enough grace to give me.
Bitch, you don't have enough [bleep] grace, [bleep].
What are you talking about?
You do this [bleep] right here.
So you will pipe it all the way down.
- I'm not piping [bleep], bitch. - Well, bitch, I ain't neither.
You ain't got [bleep] on me to .
You ain't got [bleep] on me that I ain't already got on you.
[bleep].
Next time on the "Love & Marriage: Huntsville" reunion special--
Anybody gonna go in mother[bleep] defense mode,
loud mode, and it had [bleep]--
didn't have [bleep] to do with Kimmi.
She inserted herself in that.
That was between me and LaTisha.
That came out of nowhere.
And she just thought, "You're nobody's mama.
You're not that mama." - I don't get it.
You think for one second that
we'd have someone sign an NDA is stupid.
Chris had infidelities and Martell is stupid.
Oh.
If you want to talk about any type of cheating,
we can talk about Vegas.
'Cause] I don't want to hear all that [bleep].
I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest.
I'm not going to hear your [bleep] unless you're gonna
be honest. - I'm gonna be honest.
This is getting juicy.
Tisha feels that Blaque is my business, Scholt is my business,
and she wants to do her thing.
It's not good enough to be Marsau's wife.
My life was more balanced when I was a stay-at-home mom.
And so you don't get to be a stay-at-home mom boss.