1 00:00:01,784 --> 00:00:04,704 We had scheduled a bout with Gino Hernandez. 2 00:00:04,743 --> 00:00:06,183 However, we have reached a milestone, 3 00:00:06,223 --> 00:00:10,053 a sad moment, in World Class Championship Wrestling. 4 00:00:10,097 --> 00:00:12,967 Gino Hernandez is dead. 5 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,193 On February the 4th, 1986, 6 00:00:15,232 --> 00:00:17,932 the professional wrestling world was in shock. 7 00:00:17,974 --> 00:00:22,414 28-year-old wrestler Gino Hernandez was dead. 8 00:00:22,457 --> 00:00:25,157 The popular wrestling star's badly decomposed body was 9 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:27,809 discovered late last night at his home in Highland Park. 10 00:00:27,853 --> 00:00:30,073 He had apparently been dead for several days. 11 00:00:30,117 --> 00:00:32,767 So a lot of people, when Gino died, 12 00:00:32,815 --> 00:00:34,595 they know exactly what happened. 13 00:00:34,643 --> 00:00:36,173 I'm listening to the person telling the story that's 14 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:38,860 not even close to true... 'cause I lived the story. 15 00:00:38,908 --> 00:00:41,648 Dallas police say Hernandez might have been murdered. 16 00:00:41,693 --> 00:00:43,783 The rumor grows, the story grows, 17 00:00:43,826 --> 00:00:46,306 and it gets more grandiose as it grows. 18 00:00:46,350 --> 00:00:50,220 At the time of Gino's death, Gino was already a major talent. 19 00:00:50,267 --> 00:00:52,877 He was caught up in a very fast life, 20 00:00:52,922 --> 00:00:55,842 and as a result of that, he paid. 21 00:00:55,881 --> 00:00:58,231 And he paid... with his life. 22 00:00:58,275 --> 00:00:59,965 Well, in all respect to Gino Hernandez, 23 00:01:00,016 --> 00:01:03,496 I think the Gino Hernandez you saw in the ring was 24 00:01:03,541 --> 00:01:06,501 very much like the Gino Hernandez outside the ring, 25 00:01:06,544 --> 00:01:10,114 and he was one who typically did everything his way. 26 00:01:10,157 --> 00:01:12,157 As a mother, I got a lot of questions that 27 00:01:12,202 --> 00:01:17,212 nobody has ever... ever answered me. 28 00:01:17,251 --> 00:01:20,251 Many believe that Gino's death was a tragic accident, 29 00:01:20,297 --> 00:01:23,427 but for over 30 years, family members and wrestlers 30 00:01:23,474 --> 00:01:25,964 have believed it to be murder. 31 00:01:25,998 --> 00:01:28,088 Well, I think there are a lot of rumors in wrestling, 32 00:01:28,131 --> 00:01:31,741 and it just comes from us being able to tell a story, man. 33 00:01:31,787 --> 00:01:35,657 We're trying to figure out the inside scoop on everything. 34 00:01:35,704 --> 00:01:40,104 The only people that know what really happened to Gino... 35 00:01:40,143 --> 00:01:41,413 was whoever was there. 36 00:01:41,449 --> 00:01:43,319 A lot has been taken away from me, 37 00:01:43,364 --> 00:01:45,844 and God has blessed me to let me stay here this long 38 00:01:45,888 --> 00:01:50,148 and say this, finally... 39 00:01:50,197 --> 00:01:52,457 I think my son was murdered. 40 00:01:52,503 --> 00:01:56,293 I don't think it... I almost know it. 41 00:01:56,333 --> 00:01:59,643 In this episode, we put to rest decades of rumors, 42 00:01:59,684 --> 00:02:02,864 and investigate one of wrestling's darkest mysteries. 43 00:02:11,609 --> 00:02:13,659 Beautiful pictures, beautiful memories 44 00:02:13,698 --> 00:02:15,178 with our beautiful family. 45 00:02:15,222 --> 00:02:16,442 Aw. 46 00:02:16,484 --> 00:02:19,754 He had a wonderful personality. He... 47 00:02:19,791 --> 00:02:24,271 He was a good son. He was a good father. 48 00:02:24,318 --> 00:02:28,188 And I want everybody to remember him as a good man. 49 00:02:28,235 --> 00:02:30,365 I think the hardest thing for me was when he became a 50 00:02:30,411 --> 00:02:34,021 bad guy, and as a child at the wrestling matches, 51 00:02:34,066 --> 00:02:37,106 like, people throwing pennies at us, 52 00:02:37,157 --> 00:02:39,117 all these girls coming up to the ring saying, 53 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:41,509 "Sign it," and he'd like rip it and throw it. 54 00:02:41,552 --> 00:02:43,732 And I was like a little girl. I was like, "Oh no!" 55 00:02:43,772 --> 00:02:45,822 He's such a bad guy. 56 00:02:45,861 --> 00:02:48,911 As I say, in the ring, Gino was evil. 57 00:02:48,951 --> 00:02:51,611 Don't attempt to adjust your sets. What you see is real, 58 00:02:51,649 --> 00:02:53,779 the most gorgeous human being on this earth. 59 00:02:53,825 --> 00:02:57,175 He had it. He was special. 60 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:58,960 He was the type of guy that could've fit right in with the 61 00:02:59,004 --> 00:03:01,054 Randy "Macho Man" Savage or some of those guys, 62 00:03:01,093 --> 00:03:03,103 so who knows where Gino would 'a went. 63 00:03:03,139 --> 00:03:05,489 You can't buy it; you can't steal it; 64 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:06,883 you can't borrow it. 65 00:03:06,925 --> 00:03:08,965 You either got it or you don't, 66 00:03:09,014 --> 00:03:11,544 and that's called charisma, and he had charisma, man. 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,240 Yeah, tag matches. Yeah. 68 00:03:15,282 --> 00:03:16,672 Who's the wrestler that you hate the most? 69 00:03:16,718 --> 00:03:18,588 - Gino! - Gino! 70 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:22,643 And Gino was a cocky, arrogant, good looking, talented. 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,940 If you were to see Gino, you would 'a thought he was 72 00:03:24,987 --> 00:03:28,507 connected or he was a celebrity of some type. 73 00:03:28,556 --> 00:03:30,776 He always just looked like money. 74 00:03:30,819 --> 00:03:33,299 He was all about the finest suits, 75 00:03:33,343 --> 00:03:35,353 the finest custom-made shirts, 76 00:03:35,389 --> 00:03:39,699 the rings and the watches. You name it, that was Gino. 77 00:03:39,741 --> 00:03:42,441 And it wasn't a gimmick; that was him. 78 00:03:42,483 --> 00:03:45,013 If he wanted to, he could take that room and have 79 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:47,400 everybody in that room hating his guts and 80 00:03:47,444 --> 00:03:49,934 wanting to kill him, in real life. 81 00:03:49,968 --> 00:03:52,408 I overcome any obstacle in my life, 82 00:03:52,449 --> 00:03:55,319 and especially some hormone-imbalanced female 83 00:03:55,365 --> 00:03:59,015 that tries to stick her nose in a man's business! 84 00:03:59,064 --> 00:04:01,554 And he could talk. 85 00:04:01,589 --> 00:04:04,329 And it's easy to hate somebody who's good looking, 86 00:04:04,374 --> 00:04:06,644 got money, or whatever. 87 00:04:06,681 --> 00:04:08,941 Got the pretty girl on the side and... 88 00:04:08,987 --> 00:04:10,767 must be nice. 89 00:04:10,815 --> 00:04:13,245 Full head of hair. He's got all that shit, you know. 90 00:04:13,296 --> 00:04:16,946 I'd like to show you and the people pictures, no other. 91 00:04:16,995 --> 00:04:19,775 Farrah Fawcett, I think they had a few dates. 92 00:04:19,824 --> 00:04:22,004 Who does she choose to be with? 93 00:04:22,044 --> 00:04:24,054 If my wife was on the front row when he said some of the things 94 00:04:24,089 --> 00:04:25,439 he would say to 'em, I don't know that 95 00:04:25,482 --> 00:04:27,272 I wouldn't be waiting outside to knock him out. 96 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:28,920 It almost came natural for him. 97 00:04:28,964 --> 00:04:31,624 One night, Gino had said something and he insulted 98 00:04:31,662 --> 00:04:33,802 to the point, this big cowboy guy was getting up 99 00:04:33,838 --> 00:04:35,278 and he was headed to the ring. 100 00:04:35,318 --> 00:04:36,888 And the police stopped him. 101 00:04:36,928 --> 00:04:39,058 Well, Gino starts saying, "Let him go, let him go, 102 00:04:39,104 --> 00:04:40,584 let him come in here," to the point 103 00:04:40,628 --> 00:04:42,538 he convinced the police to let him go. 104 00:04:42,586 --> 00:04:44,936 And then Gino's telling me, "Stop him, stop him!" 105 00:04:44,980 --> 00:04:46,850 He's whispering in the back of my ear, 106 00:04:46,895 --> 00:04:47,935 but I told him in the dressing room, I said, 107 00:04:47,983 --> 00:04:49,723 "You bit that off, you chew it." 108 00:04:49,767 --> 00:04:51,067 David Manning. 109 00:04:51,116 --> 00:04:54,636 I was the referee and promoter, 110 00:04:54,685 --> 00:04:57,335 and booker for World Class Championship Wrestling 111 00:04:57,384 --> 00:05:00,874 from '77, '78 'til around '89. 112 00:05:02,606 --> 00:05:04,216 Probably, I'd been in the business for about 113 00:05:04,260 --> 00:05:07,000 3, 4 years, 5 years, when Gino started coming in. 114 00:05:07,045 --> 00:05:09,215 At that time, I was a referee and he was a wrestler. 115 00:05:09,265 --> 00:05:11,175 The greatest thing about Gino being a heel was, 116 00:05:11,223 --> 00:05:12,493 one, the microphone. 117 00:05:12,529 --> 00:05:14,359 Gino's one of the few pieces of talent - 118 00:05:14,401 --> 00:05:17,361 I'd actually put Gino in the category of a Ric Flair, 119 00:05:17,404 --> 00:05:19,934 a Jim Cornette, a Michael Hayes, 120 00:05:19,971 --> 00:05:21,711 the people that you just hand 'em a mic 121 00:05:21,756 --> 00:05:23,106 and they can do it. 122 00:05:23,148 --> 00:05:24,368 Tonight's the night! 123 00:05:24,411 --> 00:05:28,021 I told ya, I brought out the $60,000 limo. 124 00:05:28,066 --> 00:05:30,806 Tonight, the World Junior Heavyweight champion! 125 00:05:30,852 --> 00:05:34,422 Not bad for a kid from Spring Branch High, huh? 126 00:05:34,464 --> 00:05:37,734 You know, he was real close with the promoter Paul Boesch, 127 00:05:37,772 --> 00:05:40,912 in Houston, where Gino got his big, big break was Houston. 128 00:05:40,949 --> 00:05:43,299 "Gorgeous" Gino. 129 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,913 I remember meeting Gino when he had to be 130 00:05:45,954 --> 00:05:48,004 17, 18 years old. 131 00:05:48,043 --> 00:05:50,523 Good looking guy, you know, good body and everything, 132 00:05:50,567 --> 00:05:52,257 and had chicks all over him. 133 00:05:52,308 --> 00:05:54,618 Full of himself, conceited. 134 00:05:54,658 --> 00:05:58,008 I was just a kid, so he, he treated me like a kid... 135 00:05:58,053 --> 00:06:00,493 ... at the time. 136 00:06:00,534 --> 00:06:03,934 I was a professional model at one time. 137 00:06:03,972 --> 00:06:06,892 Most of the time I just took care of my daughter and 138 00:06:06,931 --> 00:06:09,981 my son, Gino. I was a single parent. 139 00:06:10,021 --> 00:06:12,591 Do you prefer to call him Charles, or Gino, or...? 140 00:06:12,633 --> 00:06:14,073 - Mm-mm. Gino. - Gino? 141 00:06:14,112 --> 00:06:16,072 Well, if you were a wrestler, would you rather use 142 00:06:16,114 --> 00:06:18,334 the name Charles or Gino? 143 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:22,688 'Cause Gino always referred to himself as "Gorgeous" Gino. 144 00:06:22,730 --> 00:06:25,120 "Gorgeous" Gino Hernandez! 145 00:06:26,473 --> 00:06:29,743 GG with a, two G's on the back of his jacket. 146 00:06:29,780 --> 00:06:31,300 I had Luis's name. 147 00:06:31,347 --> 00:06:34,827 Gino sometimes would kind of prance around, 148 00:06:34,872 --> 00:06:38,532 brag that his dad was Luis Hernandez, you know. 149 00:06:41,357 --> 00:06:43,187 Lord, yes. 150 00:06:43,228 --> 00:06:45,058 - Can you talk about it? - From morning to night. 151 00:06:46,623 --> 00:06:49,763 Well, I've always been a fan of wrestling all my life, 152 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,450 and my father was a wrestler and he died 153 00:06:51,498 --> 00:06:53,458 when I was 12 years old. 154 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:56,330 And, I began to start training for wrestling 155 00:06:56,372 --> 00:06:57,632 from the time I was in high school, 156 00:06:57,678 --> 00:07:01,328 and I turned professional at the age of 17, 157 00:07:01,377 --> 00:07:02,507 right out of high school. 158 00:07:02,552 --> 00:07:04,552 When he got into the ring, 159 00:07:04,598 --> 00:07:08,298 it was like he had been wrestling for years. 160 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:10,130 He was flying off the rope and I'm going, 161 00:07:10,168 --> 00:07:12,298 "Where did he learn that from?" 162 00:07:12,344 --> 00:07:14,744 He said, "My dad did it for me. 163 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:16,912 I was wearing his shoes." 164 00:07:16,958 --> 00:07:20,528 He said, "He did everything for me," and of course, 165 00:07:20,570 --> 00:07:22,570 I had to cry when he told me that. 166 00:07:22,616 --> 00:07:25,396 We were married very young. We were both 18. 167 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:28,705 And we had our first child, so that started our family. 168 00:07:28,752 --> 00:07:33,062 I'm Janice Gillespie, and I grew up in Houston, Texas, 169 00:07:33,104 --> 00:07:35,894 and that is where I met Charles Wolfe, 170 00:07:35,933 --> 00:07:38,373 who you might know as Gino Hernandez. 171 00:07:38,414 --> 00:07:41,424 After we were married, he kept his life very separate, 172 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:43,111 so he had his professional life. 173 00:07:43,158 --> 00:07:44,728 And, he'd work out in the mornings, 174 00:07:44,768 --> 00:07:46,768 and then he'd have a workout in the afternoon and 175 00:07:46,814 --> 00:07:49,694 it really consumed most of his day. 176 00:07:49,730 --> 00:07:52,690 And then he had his family. 177 00:07:52,733 --> 00:07:56,743 There was really very little mixing outside of just family. 178 00:07:56,780 --> 00:07:59,390 There was the soft side of him. 179 00:07:59,435 --> 00:08:01,435 He was really a pushover. 180 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:04,611 He loved his children very, very much. 181 00:08:04,658 --> 00:08:06,218 Everybody knows I'm the man of the hour, 182 00:08:06,268 --> 00:08:08,528 the man with the power, too sweet to be sour. 183 00:08:08,575 --> 00:08:11,055 You know, going back and like watching the footage, 184 00:08:11,099 --> 00:08:13,009 and, and hearing him talk... 185 00:08:13,057 --> 00:08:17,237 227 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal. 186 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:19,589 It's like a voice I always knew. 187 00:08:19,629 --> 00:08:24,069 Really, everywhere we went, people knew he was Gino. 188 00:08:24,112 --> 00:08:27,552 He would get into his persona, his character, 189 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:29,474 especially when he became a heel. 190 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:32,209 He would really be very, very intimidating and 191 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:35,560 made me very uncomfortable to be around him when, 192 00:08:35,602 --> 00:08:37,562 when you would see him like that. 193 00:08:37,604 --> 00:08:38,914 Has there been times in your, 194 00:08:38,953 --> 00:08:41,963 in your life where your wrestling persona 195 00:08:41,999 --> 00:08:43,569 has bled into your real life? 196 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:45,790 Jake Roberts never had a fucking problem in his life. 197 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:48,399 He's a bad motherfucker that don't give a fuck about anybody 198 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,880 and he's gonna do what he pleases, 199 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,100 and he's gonna go on with life. 200 00:08:51,139 --> 00:08:53,749 Don't fuck with him. He will fuck you up. 201 00:08:53,794 --> 00:08:55,624 Aurelian Smith, on the other hand, 202 00:08:55,665 --> 00:08:58,625 is a human being, man. He cares about other people. 203 00:08:58,668 --> 00:09:00,928 He's made some mistakes. 204 00:09:00,975 --> 00:09:03,275 He's a recovering alcoholic, addict. 205 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:06,015 So, yeah, that guy has problems. 206 00:09:06,067 --> 00:09:07,587 Jake "The Snake" doesn't. 207 00:09:07,634 --> 00:09:09,944 For people to get mad at me for when I get on TV and say 208 00:09:09,984 --> 00:09:11,334 I'm the latest and I'm the greatest, 209 00:09:11,376 --> 00:09:13,196 and I'm so fine that I'm divine... 210 00:09:13,248 --> 00:09:14,598 For people to say I'm conceited, 211 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:16,251 I don't understand it. 212 00:09:16,294 --> 00:09:18,434 He lived his gimmick in the ring and he lived it out of the ring. 213 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:20,210 We're into sports cars, we're into fast cars. 214 00:09:20,255 --> 00:09:22,555 Faster women, and fast life. 215 00:09:22,605 --> 00:09:24,825 He lived it, he ate it, and he slept it. 216 00:09:24,868 --> 00:09:26,608 He loved every minute and 217 00:09:26,653 --> 00:09:28,793 he could bring that on just like that. 218 00:09:28,829 --> 00:09:31,699 And I, I used to tell him, "You can drop that now. 219 00:09:31,745 --> 00:09:34,695 I know who you are." 220 00:09:34,748 --> 00:09:37,008 I know that he and Chris had a very successful tag team, 221 00:09:37,054 --> 00:09:38,454 the Dynamic Duo. 222 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:39,880 Chris Adams was, ah... 223 00:09:39,927 --> 00:09:41,487 He was a good guy. 224 00:09:41,537 --> 00:09:44,017 He could be a good friend as long as alcohol wasn't involved. 225 00:09:44,061 --> 00:09:45,411 They were a great team. 226 00:09:45,454 --> 00:09:48,634 We got the looks! We got the ability! 227 00:09:48,675 --> 00:09:51,415 And we got the money, we got the women, 228 00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:52,940 we got the build. 229 00:09:52,983 --> 00:09:55,603 And from now on, we are number one! 230 00:09:55,638 --> 00:09:57,418 - We're bad, we're real bad. - Let's go, let's go. 231 00:09:57,466 --> 00:09:59,246 We're bad to the bone. 232 00:09:59,294 --> 00:10:01,254 Alright. They're bad to the bone. 233 00:10:01,296 --> 00:10:02,336 Well, there they go, 234 00:10:02,384 --> 00:10:03,784 Chris Adams and Gino Hernandez. 235 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:06,130 See you, guys! 236 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:10,960 Gino's social life and his life outside of wrestling, 237 00:10:11,001 --> 00:10:14,441 was just as flamboyant as 238 00:10:14,483 --> 00:10:18,533 inside the coliseum when Gino came to perform. 239 00:10:18,574 --> 00:10:20,584 Matter of fact, one of the highlighted matches, 240 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:23,060 one of the biggest draws we ever had was at the Cotton Bowl. 241 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:28,060 It's all come down to the Cotton Bowl tomorrow at 3 pm. 242 00:10:28,105 --> 00:10:30,625 And it was Gino and Chris Adams 243 00:10:30,673 --> 00:10:34,683 against Kevin and Kerry. A hair match. 244 00:10:34,721 --> 00:10:37,681 Chris and Gino both had just gorgeous hair, down, 245 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:39,944 you know, the whole thing. The sculptured look. 246 00:10:39,987 --> 00:10:41,547 And the Von Erichs both had long hair. 247 00:10:41,597 --> 00:10:44,337 So, people weren't sure what was gonna happen here. 248 00:10:44,382 --> 00:10:46,822 And he would get in that ring and he just owned the crowd. 249 00:10:46,863 --> 00:10:48,433 He knew exactly what he was doing. 250 00:10:48,473 --> 00:10:50,563 I've seen a lot of wrestlers in my life, 251 00:10:50,606 --> 00:10:53,606 and I've seen a lot of guys try to do what Gino did, 252 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:56,703 and he was such an artist. 253 00:10:56,743 --> 00:10:59,833 And, sure enough, Gino and Chris lost. 254 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:01,696 I remember they would hold 'em in those seats and 255 00:11:01,748 --> 00:11:03,048 they brought the razors out. 256 00:11:03,097 --> 00:11:04,577 The crowd was going crazy. They were cheering. 257 00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:06,710 They were so happy these guys were fixin' to lose their hair. 258 00:11:06,753 --> 00:11:08,803 And they had the perfect reaction, you know, 259 00:11:08,842 --> 00:11:10,972 and it just elevated the feud. 260 00:11:13,237 --> 00:11:16,717 There was a nightclub in Houston called Judges that 261 00:11:16,763 --> 00:11:20,723 Gino frequented quite a bit; that was the place to go 262 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:22,677 on a Friday night after the matches. 263 00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:24,635 And, party all night long. 264 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:26,384 My name is Jeanie Williams. 265 00:11:26,424 --> 00:11:30,214 In 1985, Chris asked me to move to Dallas. 266 00:11:30,254 --> 00:11:34,744 And he said, "You live next door to my friend Gino Hernandez," 267 00:11:34,781 --> 00:11:37,041 so Gino and I were neighbors. 268 00:11:37,087 --> 00:11:38,567 Gino was front and center, man. 269 00:11:38,610 --> 00:11:41,310 It wasn't like it was a secret that Gino did drugs, 270 00:11:41,352 --> 00:11:43,182 from smoking dope, to cocaine, 271 00:11:43,224 --> 00:11:44,974 and uppers and downers. 272 00:11:45,008 --> 00:11:47,708 It was the 70s and 80s and we all did. 273 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:52,150 I never saw Gino out of control on drugs. 274 00:11:52,189 --> 00:11:54,149 But Gino liked to party and have a good time. 275 00:11:54,191 --> 00:11:55,671 Gino comes knocking on the door. 276 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:58,145 His eyes are huge and he's like, 277 00:11:58,195 --> 00:12:00,325 "Touch my head. Oh my God, my hair," 278 00:12:00,371 --> 00:12:02,291 'cause they'd just had their hair shaved. 279 00:12:02,330 --> 00:12:05,550 And so, we all decided we'd go to a night club. 280 00:12:05,594 --> 00:12:09,034 We get in the car and he's going about 100 miles an hour 281 00:12:09,076 --> 00:12:12,726 and he, he has this tiny piece of paper 282 00:12:12,775 --> 00:12:15,775 and he says, "Just take this." 283 00:12:17,388 --> 00:12:20,298 We get to the club and then everybody's just, 284 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:23,218 everything's going all strange and... 285 00:12:23,264 --> 00:12:25,444 Gino is laughing. 286 00:12:25,483 --> 00:12:27,753 I want to go to the bathroom, and as I was walking, 287 00:12:27,790 --> 00:12:31,360 it was like my feet were going into clouds and I, 288 00:12:31,402 --> 00:12:33,542 I'd come to find out afterwards that 289 00:12:33,578 --> 00:12:36,358 Gino had given me some acid. 290 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:42,236 I was in Las Vegas one time, and... 291 00:12:42,283 --> 00:12:44,593 Gino had a friend with him. 292 00:12:44,633 --> 00:12:46,813 This particular gentleman was-- had a plane. 293 00:12:46,853 --> 00:12:51,683 They had rented the whole top suite floor of the hotel there, 294 00:12:51,727 --> 00:12:53,947 just partying for like 3 days. 295 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:55,950 But I knew a lot of those guys were-- 296 00:12:55,992 --> 00:12:58,822 I don't know if they were furnishing it all to him, but... 297 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:00,645 From that time on, after Las Vegas, 298 00:13:00,692 --> 00:13:02,782 it was just a slowly, progression. 299 00:13:02,825 --> 00:13:05,345 Gino just, he ran with a... 300 00:13:05,393 --> 00:13:07,053 pretty tough crowd in Houston. 301 00:13:07,090 --> 00:13:08,350 You know, if you hang around trouble, 302 00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:09,956 you're gonna get trouble. 303 00:13:10,006 --> 00:13:12,436 It's like I always say, getting into the wrestling 304 00:13:12,487 --> 00:13:14,917 is like getting into the mob. Once you're in, you're in. 305 00:13:14,968 --> 00:13:16,968 It can go the other way, too. 306 00:13:17,013 --> 00:13:18,843 So, you gotta watch who you hang out with. 307 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:26,239 Unknown to his family, Gino had been running with 308 00:13:26,283 --> 00:13:28,023 a fast and dangerous crowd, 309 00:13:28,068 --> 00:13:30,768 but the party wouldn't last much longer. 310 00:13:36,032 --> 00:13:38,382 I just heard it was like... 311 00:13:38,426 --> 00:13:40,466 Nah, I don't know. I'm not gonna say. 312 00:13:40,515 --> 00:13:43,125 I don't know. I don't know, man... 313 00:13:43,170 --> 00:13:47,440 Ah... That's, that's-- What I said is what it was. 314 00:13:47,478 --> 00:13:50,528 I heard that it was people that you didn't mess with 315 00:13:50,568 --> 00:13:54,618 that had power in the city of Houston and Dallas, 316 00:13:54,659 --> 00:13:57,659 and there are certainly those kind of people out there. 317 00:13:57,706 --> 00:14:00,576 Well, when our children were young, we divorced. 318 00:14:00,622 --> 00:14:02,752 I just didn't feel so safe about some of the people 319 00:14:02,798 --> 00:14:05,498 he might hang out with, things I was hearing. 320 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:09,590 These were strong powerful people within the city that 321 00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:12,941 might not have liked certain things getting out. 322 00:14:12,982 --> 00:14:17,552 There was just a side of him and people he ran with that, 323 00:14:17,595 --> 00:14:19,285 they were, I felt, dangerous. 324 00:14:21,773 --> 00:14:26,303 By 1986, there was a shift in the Dynamic Duo's story line, 325 00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:29,043 which saw Chris and Gino turn against each other, 326 00:14:29,085 --> 00:14:32,125 igniting a vicious rivalry. 327 00:14:32,175 --> 00:14:33,435 I m gonna kill him! 328 00:14:33,481 --> 00:14:37,621 That s what I m gonna do, I m gonna kill him! 329 00:14:37,659 --> 00:14:40,879 Yeah, one of Gino's last matches was he and Chris. 330 00:14:40,923 --> 00:14:42,793 We did a gimmick where... 331 00:14:42,838 --> 00:14:44,838 I think it's Nair, it was like, you know - 332 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,194 girls, to get rid of hair - 333 00:14:47,234 --> 00:14:49,504 Gino sprayed it in Chris's eyes and for weeks, 334 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:51,890 Chris wore this thing. He couldn't see, and... 335 00:14:51,934 --> 00:14:53,984 and stuff like this, and... 336 00:14:54,023 --> 00:14:55,593 Whatever the gimmick was in the ring, 337 00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:57,423 that was the gimmick out of the ring. 338 00:14:57,461 --> 00:14:59,031 And so, even around in the public, 339 00:14:59,072 --> 00:15:01,072 Chris would, you know, like he couldn't hardly see. 340 00:15:01,117 --> 00:15:04,287 And, his wife, Toni, would lead him around and 341 00:15:04,338 --> 00:15:06,168 bumping into chairs and... 342 00:15:06,209 --> 00:15:07,949 that's what I really liked about it. 343 00:15:07,994 --> 00:15:09,604 Whatever happened, you took it with you. 344 00:15:12,607 --> 00:15:17,737 Super Bowl Sunday, 1986. 345 00:15:17,786 --> 00:15:20,396 He was in a hurry, always in a hurry. 346 00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:26,706 Mhm... 347 00:15:26,751 --> 00:15:28,801 Mhm. 348 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:34,370 He was very fidgety and nervous when he came in. 349 00:15:34,411 --> 00:15:37,371 Say what you gotta say, and leave. 350 00:15:37,414 --> 00:15:40,594 She knew something was going on because he had come home 351 00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:43,985 to her home, and he had something and he put it 352 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:46,290 somewhere in her home. And... 353 00:15:46,336 --> 00:15:48,426 He was acting... 354 00:15:48,469 --> 00:15:51,119 nervous and antsy, and felt like... 355 00:15:51,167 --> 00:15:52,907 something might happen to him. 356 00:15:52,952 --> 00:15:55,522 And who it was, I don't think she knew 357 00:15:55,563 --> 00:15:58,173 who he was afraid of, or who he was worried about. 358 00:15:58,218 --> 00:16:00,388 Do you know what he hid in her house, 359 00:16:00,437 --> 00:16:01,527 that you're referring to? 360 00:16:01,569 --> 00:16:02,659 No. 361 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:06,310 Was he nervous? Yeah, real nervous. 362 00:16:06,356 --> 00:16:08,006 And Gino wasn't afraid of anything, 363 00:16:08,054 --> 00:16:11,014 but there's certain things you can't dodge. 364 00:16:11,057 --> 00:16:13,797 If somebody wants to get you, they'll get you. 365 00:16:16,236 --> 00:16:17,626 He came to the matches one night, 366 00:16:17,672 --> 00:16:19,542 and he came running in my office, 367 00:16:19,587 --> 00:16:20,937 and he was telling me this story. 368 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:23,030 And he said, "You wouldn't believe it, Dave. 369 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,329 You wouldn't believe it." 370 00:16:24,374 --> 00:16:25,514 He said, "I'm driving and I look in the back and 371 00:16:25,549 --> 00:16:27,029 I can see someone sitting in the back." 372 00:16:27,073 --> 00:16:28,773 And he said, "I didn't know what to do," and he said, 373 00:16:28,813 --> 00:16:30,823 "So I'm watching to see if they're gonna try to stab me 374 00:16:30,859 --> 00:16:32,599 or whatever," and he says, "So all of a sudden, 375 00:16:32,643 --> 00:16:34,343 I just slammed on the brakes and then they jumped out 376 00:16:34,384 --> 00:16:36,264 the back and they ran off." 377 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:37,609 And he said, "I think they were gonna kill me." 378 00:16:37,648 --> 00:16:40,608 He's like, "I need a gun." 379 00:16:40,651 --> 00:16:43,001 I could just tell, he was scared to death. 380 00:16:43,045 --> 00:16:46,305 And so, I said, "No, I don't have a gun with me, Gino." 381 00:16:46,353 --> 00:16:48,053 I said, "But I think you're okay. I think, you know, 382 00:16:48,094 --> 00:16:49,574 maybe you just saw something." 383 00:16:49,617 --> 00:16:52,047 And he was like, "No, no, no. They're following me. 384 00:16:52,098 --> 00:16:54,008 I'm afraid something's gonna happen to me, 385 00:16:54,056 --> 00:16:56,056 you know, I gotta get a gun. I gotta get a gun." 386 00:16:56,102 --> 00:16:58,152 He was adamant someone was sitting in the 387 00:16:58,191 --> 00:17:01,801 backseat of his car, and he got a glimpse of him 388 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:04,066 through his rearview mirror. 389 00:17:04,110 --> 00:17:06,720 Maybe Gino was telling me the truth all these times 390 00:17:06,764 --> 00:17:08,244 that someone was either stalking him, 391 00:17:08,288 --> 00:17:11,768 or someone was after him, or someone was going to kill him. 392 00:17:11,813 --> 00:17:15,433 That night was the last night I saw Gino. 393 00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:17,779 The last time I saw Gino alive, and he said, 394 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:20,599 "Hey, kiddo, look what I got here," and he had 395 00:17:20,648 --> 00:17:23,298 a white box and he said it was a peach pie. 396 00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:25,476 And he said he was going out, 397 00:17:25,522 --> 00:17:28,572 but if I wanted to stop by the next day, 398 00:17:28,612 --> 00:17:31,922 "Come and have a slice, it's delicious." 399 00:17:31,963 --> 00:17:36,583 On my birthday February the 5th, 1986... 400 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:40,670 Walter called me. He was Gino's manager. 401 00:17:40,711 --> 00:17:45,591 He did a lot of Gino's bookings and he said, 402 00:17:45,629 --> 00:17:47,679 "Patrice, have you heard from Gino?" 403 00:17:47,718 --> 00:17:49,238 I said, "No. Why?" 404 00:17:49,285 --> 00:17:51,975 He said, "Well, I need to, I need to talk to him." 405 00:17:52,027 --> 00:17:54,027 "I haven't heard from him, but today's my birthday and 406 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:56,643 I know he'll be calling me. 407 00:17:56,684 --> 00:17:58,644 I'll tell him to give you a call." 408 00:17:58,686 --> 00:18:02,906 The next day, I saw Gino's car parked. 409 00:18:02,951 --> 00:18:05,521 I noticed the car was sort of out of alignment, 410 00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:10,442 the wheels were strange, like he parked it really quick. 411 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,830 He missed a show up in Oklahoma, 412 00:18:12,874 --> 00:18:16,144 and that wasn't like him, but I didn't think anything about it. 413 00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:17,402 And then we couldn't reach him. 414 00:18:17,444 --> 00:18:19,364 We tried to, we tried to get a hold of Gino. 415 00:18:19,402 --> 00:18:21,142 We couldn't reach him. 416 00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:26,237 The next day, the car was still the same position. 417 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:29,369 I'm gonna go and check on him, and, and... 418 00:18:29,412 --> 00:18:33,762 knocking on his door, and I can't really get a good vision, 419 00:18:33,808 --> 00:18:39,068 but I did see a pie, the pie. 420 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:41,158 And then I heard that, you know, 421 00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:42,337 he didn't show up in Houston, 422 00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,082 which was definitely unusual. 423 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,603 When I went to the office on Monday and 424 00:18:45,646 --> 00:18:47,866 I hadn't heard from Gino... 425 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:49,169 I said, "We got a problem." 426 00:18:49,215 --> 00:18:50,515 One of the guys that worked referee, 427 00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:52,134 of course, was named Rick Hazzard. 428 00:18:52,174 --> 00:18:55,314 And I said, "Rick, why don't you go over to Gino's apartment, 429 00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:56,871 see if his car's there." 430 00:18:56,918 --> 00:18:58,348 And so, he called me, and he said, 431 00:18:58,398 --> 00:19:01,008 "Well, the car's here, but no one's answering the door." 432 00:19:01,052 --> 00:19:02,272 And I said, "Why don't you see if you can get 433 00:19:02,315 --> 00:19:04,745 over the wall and just peek in." 434 00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:07,795 And sure enough, Rick got over the wall. 435 00:19:07,842 --> 00:19:09,152 The way the bed was laying, at first, 436 00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:10,411 he couldn't see anything. 437 00:19:10,453 --> 00:19:12,063 He just happened to glance down... 438 00:19:12,107 --> 00:19:13,497 and where the bed ended, 439 00:19:13,543 --> 00:19:16,943 he could see part of the body hanging out. 440 00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:18,941 At that point, they called the police. 441 00:19:18,983 --> 00:19:21,203 The cops said he had been laying there, 442 00:19:21,247 --> 00:19:24,077 they had estimated about... 443 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,859 4 to 5 days. 444 00:19:25,903 --> 00:19:28,913 Walter took some wrestler and went to the condo. 445 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:32,080 They got in 'cause Walter was the only one that had the key. 446 00:19:32,127 --> 00:19:33,557 There was a gun on the scene, 447 00:19:33,607 --> 00:19:35,737 so I don't know where Gino got the gun, 448 00:19:35,783 --> 00:19:38,313 but there was a gun on the scene when they found him. 449 00:19:38,351 --> 00:19:40,881 I was standing outside Chris's apartment, 450 00:19:40,918 --> 00:19:43,828 actually, and they're bringing out his body in, 451 00:19:43,878 --> 00:19:46,748 in a body bag. It was just like... 452 00:19:46,794 --> 00:19:49,934 something you're, you're in denial. 453 00:19:49,971 --> 00:19:55,191 Probably about, I'd say, very short span of time, 454 00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:58,067 Walter calls me again. 455 00:19:58,109 --> 00:20:03,289 And he said... "Patrice, this-- it's Walter." 456 00:20:03,332 --> 00:20:06,422 And I said, "Do you-- Did Gino get in touch with you?" 457 00:20:06,466 --> 00:20:09,206 I said, "He hasn't called me, but have you found him?" 458 00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:11,301 He said... 459 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:16,740 "Yeah... I'm standing here in his condo." 460 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:22,180 I said, "Well, is he okay?" He said, "He's dead." 461 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,011 And he hung up. 462 00:20:26,921 --> 00:20:29,621 And I just started screaming. 463 00:20:36,757 --> 00:20:40,017 Death came to Gino Hernandez. 464 00:20:40,064 --> 00:20:42,504 Wrestling fans were shocked at the sudden end to 465 00:20:42,545 --> 00:20:45,455 one of the brightest careers in the game. 466 00:20:45,505 --> 00:20:48,805 His friends were saddened by an irreplaceable loss 467 00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:51,506 of a vibrant young spirit. 468 00:20:51,554 --> 00:20:53,384 To his mother and sister, 469 00:20:53,426 --> 00:20:58,036 it was a tragedy of indescribable magnitude. 470 00:20:58,082 --> 00:21:00,742 Police arrived at the home of wrestler Gino Hernandez 471 00:21:00,781 --> 00:21:05,391 in February of 1986, and discovered his dead body. 472 00:21:05,438 --> 00:21:08,658 It was so decomposed that the exact cause of death 473 00:21:08,702 --> 00:21:10,662 could not be determined. 474 00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,274 A loaded pistol was found next to his right hand, 475 00:21:13,315 --> 00:21:15,485 and police found no sign of drugs or 476 00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:17,185 paraphernalia in the condo. 477 00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:28,195 Yeah, I was grieving. Mica and I was grieving. 478 00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:31,033 And, he just knocked on the door and he said, 479 00:21:31,072 --> 00:21:34,032 "I would like to come in and discuss the funeral." 480 00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:36,765 Well, of course, I let him in. 481 00:21:36,817 --> 00:21:39,857 Gino knew him. He was-- Gino went places with him. 482 00:21:41,865 --> 00:21:44,605 But I really didn't know him. 483 00:21:44,651 --> 00:21:46,091 We were both sitting facing each other, 484 00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:49,570 sitting on the floor, and... 485 00:21:49,612 --> 00:21:54,752 If I can recollect, he says to me... 486 00:21:54,791 --> 00:21:57,881 "Gino owed me a lot of money, 487 00:21:57,925 --> 00:22:01,055 but just don't you worry about it 488 00:22:01,102 --> 00:22:03,762 'cause I'm gonna pay for his funeral." 489 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,930 I was sitting there and I know how I felt, 490 00:22:05,976 --> 00:22:07,716 looking at him. 491 00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:09,371 I was scared to death. 492 00:22:14,028 --> 00:22:15,508 Yeah. 493 00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:17,121 Well, it's just the tone of voice and the way somebody 494 00:22:17,161 --> 00:22:19,251 looks at you when they stick their finger in your-- 495 00:22:19,294 --> 00:22:23,524 and they lean in to you like, "Do you hear me?" 496 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:27,079 No remorse. No empathy. 497 00:22:27,128 --> 00:22:31,048 Nothing... nothing. 498 00:22:31,088 --> 00:22:34,658 I'm an intelligent woman, and I can read a person 499 00:22:34,701 --> 00:22:36,791 pretty dog gone well. 500 00:22:36,833 --> 00:22:39,713 Eye to eye contact; that tells you a lot. 501 00:22:43,449 --> 00:22:48,189 You know, I remember walking into... 502 00:22:48,236 --> 00:22:49,976 to the funeral. 503 00:22:50,020 --> 00:22:54,370 Went up, paid our respects. 504 00:22:54,416 --> 00:22:58,586 There was a platinum casket. 505 00:22:58,638 --> 00:23:02,028 And... it was closed casket. 506 00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:05,076 So many people. 507 00:23:05,122 --> 00:23:11,352 I dressed the finest I could dress, like a... 508 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:16,700 movie star because I knew that Gino wanted me to look that way. 509 00:23:20,094 --> 00:23:21,574 There were a lot of people that were hurting, 510 00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:24,487 his mom, and his sister. Oh my gosh, 511 00:23:24,533 --> 00:23:27,713 and that was just painful to know they were hurting. 512 00:23:27,754 --> 00:23:30,064 There was a group of men, and Patrice would probably 513 00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:32,414 know who they were more than I would, 514 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:34,854 that took care of all the finances of that funeral 515 00:23:34,891 --> 00:23:36,071 and it was a... 516 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:38,240 very expensive funeral. 517 00:23:38,286 --> 00:23:39,676 They, they... 518 00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:42,862 do the service at the grave site, 519 00:23:42,899 --> 00:23:44,859 and then they had bottle of champagne, 520 00:23:44,901 --> 00:23:46,771 they had glasses, and people were pouring champagne. 521 00:23:46,816 --> 00:23:49,116 And, "To you, Gino!" Drinking the champagne, 522 00:23:49,166 --> 00:23:50,986 then breaking the champagne glasses, 523 00:23:51,038 --> 00:23:54,868 you know, on the casket, and toasting Gino. 524 00:23:54,911 --> 00:23:56,481 When you were looking at all of this, 525 00:23:56,522 --> 00:23:58,922 it just was surreal, to a point. 526 00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:02,699 Almost like an out of body experience, a little bit. 527 00:24:02,745 --> 00:24:05,915 There was a gentleman there that did a eulogy, 528 00:24:05,966 --> 00:24:09,616 that talked about Gino getting on planes and 529 00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:11,665 going to Vegas, and... 530 00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:14,981 beating up a guy and putting him in a headlock, and... 531 00:24:15,018 --> 00:24:19,498 It was just weird. It was tonally off, 532 00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:21,235 and it was almost like people going, 533 00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:24,545 "Who the fuck is this guy?" 534 00:24:24,593 --> 00:24:27,203 And, to some of us that hadn't been around for a while, 535 00:24:27,248 --> 00:24:28,768 we just thought it was, you know, 536 00:24:28,815 --> 00:24:32,245 a new friend or whatever. We had no clue. 537 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:36,206 At his funeral, there was a lot of rich people. 538 00:24:36,257 --> 00:24:39,907 You might assume drug dealing is going on. 539 00:24:39,956 --> 00:24:43,256 And people made comments like, 540 00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:45,917 "Do you know who that is?" And I had no clue who it is. 541 00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:47,752 If you were putting me on the line today, 542 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:49,180 I wouldn't know who it is. 543 00:24:49,226 --> 00:24:52,876 But people talking about, "Oh, well, he's, he's... 544 00:24:52,926 --> 00:24:55,226 He's wanted by the authorities, you know." 545 00:24:55,276 --> 00:24:57,316 I don't know who the hell he is. 546 00:24:57,365 --> 00:25:01,755 Who was the guy that gave the eulogy? 547 00:25:01,804 --> 00:25:03,334 That's John Royal. 548 00:25:09,246 --> 00:25:13,766 I just heard that he, he was a drug dealer. 549 00:25:13,816 --> 00:25:18,256 I mean, I didn't know anything about the man, period. 550 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:22,129 As far as I know, right now he's in prison. 551 00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:24,262 I would've done just pretty much anything then 552 00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:26,955 just to make sure my daughter was safe, 553 00:25:27,003 --> 00:25:29,183 and I was too. 554 00:25:29,223 --> 00:25:32,573 And that's the way it's been all these years. 555 00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:35,058 I hadn't talked to anybody until I talked to you guys. 556 00:25:42,062 --> 00:25:46,112 As the Hernandez family mourned Gino's mysterious death, 557 00:25:46,153 --> 00:25:48,763 many questions remained unanswered. 558 00:25:48,808 --> 00:25:50,328 Rumors began to fly throughout the 559 00:25:50,374 --> 00:25:53,644 wrestling community and beyond. 560 00:25:53,682 --> 00:25:56,292 So, a lot of people, when Gino died, 561 00:25:56,337 --> 00:25:57,897 were immediately telling the story, 562 00:25:57,947 --> 00:25:59,377 "Here's what happened." 563 00:25:59,427 --> 00:26:01,597 Andre the Giant told us that he knew for a fact that 564 00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:03,737 Gino had been shot in the head. 565 00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:05,609 And that was not the case. 566 00:26:05,651 --> 00:26:08,611 I heard from somebody that he was close with that 567 00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:13,354 he used to take trips down to Houston, Southwest Airlines, 568 00:26:13,397 --> 00:26:15,267 several times a week to go down to Houston. 569 00:26:15,312 --> 00:26:16,752 For what, I don't know. 570 00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:19,752 The rumor mill was that he had gambled and that 571 00:26:19,795 --> 00:26:22,665 he owed some money on a football game. 572 00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:24,061 And so, you got all these different rumors, 573 00:26:24,104 --> 00:26:25,454 and with Chris and with Gino, 574 00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:27,536 you had the conflict going on. 575 00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:29,886 Police have received several telephone calls 576 00:26:29,936 --> 00:26:31,236 from concerned fans, 577 00:26:31,285 --> 00:26:33,195 who say Hernandez might have been murdered. 578 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,423 And immediately it's like, well, Chris did it. 579 00:26:36,464 --> 00:26:37,944 Why? The guy blinded him. 580 00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:39,987 Had you ever heard that all the World Class fans 581 00:26:40,033 --> 00:26:42,303 called the police saying it must have been Chris? 582 00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:47,129 I did hear that, and I think the police actually did... 583 00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:51,090 contact Chris about the murder of Gino. 584 00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:53,261 That goes to show just how believable 585 00:26:53,307 --> 00:26:55,307 World Class Championship Wrestling was, 586 00:26:55,352 --> 00:26:56,962 that somebody would go to the depth to think, 587 00:26:57,006 --> 00:26:58,656 Jesus, he killed that guy because that guy 588 00:26:58,704 --> 00:27:00,234 took his eyesight. 589 00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:02,800 This is a case that we're talking 30 years ago... 590 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:06,018 and there's been a lot of rumors like this. 591 00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:08,279 None of the family members were ever allowed to see him. 592 00:27:08,322 --> 00:27:12,942 His corpse, his body was just so guarded. 593 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:18,585 Um, I think Walter. 594 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:20,157 It would just be too shocking because he had been 595 00:27:20,203 --> 00:27:24,213 dead for so long that they didn't want anybody to see him. 596 00:27:24,251 --> 00:27:26,731 Now, I'm pretty meticulous about saving everything. 597 00:27:26,775 --> 00:27:30,335 This is the suitcase that I put everything in after 598 00:27:30,387 --> 00:27:33,127 I had collected stuff, after he had passed away, 599 00:27:33,173 --> 00:27:35,043 anything that I could get my hands on 'cause 600 00:27:35,088 --> 00:27:37,478 I never got to go in his apartment. 601 00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:39,785 As a mother, got a lot of questions that nobody 602 00:27:39,832 --> 00:27:43,572 has ever... ever answered me. 603 00:27:43,618 --> 00:27:45,098 I said, well, I tell you what, 604 00:27:45,141 --> 00:27:47,401 I'll just do my own investigating. 605 00:27:47,448 --> 00:27:51,058 And if, if I can find out the right person to contact, 606 00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:54,764 I'll contact that person and take care of it myself... 607 00:27:54,803 --> 00:27:57,503 worry about the consequences later, 608 00:27:57,545 --> 00:27:59,025 and that's exactly what I did. 609 00:27:59,068 --> 00:28:02,068 I think there was foul play in Gino's death only because, 610 00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:04,195 one, he was super paranoid. 611 00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:06,247 When he walked into his apartment, 612 00:28:06,293 --> 00:28:07,733 he locked the doors. 613 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:10,213 And he had a deadbolt on the inside, so, 614 00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:13,823 the deadbolt was not locked from the inside of the apartment. 615 00:28:13,866 --> 00:28:15,516 It never made any sense to me. 616 00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:19,053 The deadbolt wasn't on, and he always locked it. 617 00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:21,438 So, somebody was there with him. 618 00:28:21,482 --> 00:28:24,962 Well, who was there with him? 619 00:28:25,007 --> 00:28:26,787 And left him alone? 620 00:28:26,835 --> 00:28:28,315 If it would 'a been me, and I would 'a said, 621 00:28:28,358 --> 00:28:30,228 "You need to do an autopsy 'cause someone murdered him." 622 00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:31,803 The autopsy report? 623 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,490 When they found him and he was, 624 00:28:33,537 --> 00:28:36,667 had been dead for a while. I asked what happened. 625 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:40,195 I believe they said that it might be a drug overdose. 626 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,500 I remember talking to the coroner and he said that 627 00:28:43,547 --> 00:28:45,937 Gino had cocaine in his system, 628 00:28:45,985 --> 00:28:48,465 but he had 5 times the amount. 629 00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:50,419 I believe I was told he had enough that 630 00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:52,117 could've killed an elephant. 631 00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:53,815 He had more than just enough to overdose; 632 00:28:53,862 --> 00:28:56,652 he had 3 or 4 or 5 times in his body that 633 00:28:56,691 --> 00:28:58,211 it would take to overdose. 634 00:28:58,258 --> 00:29:01,568 The medical examiner had said that he didn't understand 635 00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:03,919 how that much cocaine could get in someone, 636 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:06,309 you know, be ingested... 637 00:29:06,353 --> 00:29:08,623 Makes you question, you know, 638 00:29:08,659 --> 00:29:09,969 what the hell happened? 639 00:29:10,009 --> 00:29:12,789 Autopsy report said he was morbidly obese. 640 00:29:12,838 --> 00:29:14,708 It said that he was Hispanic. 641 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:16,063 She asked me, she said, "Now, 642 00:29:16,102 --> 00:29:18,452 I'm pretty sure about this because, you know, 643 00:29:18,495 --> 00:29:21,625 I did give birth to him. Was Gino circumcised?" 644 00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:23,812 I said, "Well, he was." 645 00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:26,939 Well, the autopsy report said it was an uncircumcised male. 646 00:29:29,115 --> 00:29:31,415 Well, first of all, is that even really him? 647 00:29:31,465 --> 00:29:35,425 If it's not him... I wondered sometimes, 648 00:29:35,469 --> 00:29:38,689 could he have, would he have faked his own death? 649 00:29:38,733 --> 00:29:43,653 When we were married, there was a comedy, sitcom, 650 00:29:43,694 --> 00:29:44,914 I don't remember the name of it. 651 00:29:44,957 --> 00:29:47,567 The main character had faked his own death. 652 00:29:47,611 --> 00:29:50,091 He was some sort of trouble, whether it was tax evasion 653 00:29:50,136 --> 00:29:51,876 or he was trying to hide from somebody after him. 654 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,270 He had left a, a wife and a child, 655 00:29:54,314 --> 00:29:57,454 and came back like 7 years later. 656 00:29:57,491 --> 00:29:59,751 Gino had said, "I'm gonna do that someday. 657 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:01,628 That's what I would do." 658 00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:05,499 Well, I wished that it wasn't him in there. 659 00:30:05,542 --> 00:30:07,982 But, I know in my heart that if he is alive, 660 00:30:08,023 --> 00:30:10,333 I'd 'a heard from him by now. 661 00:30:10,373 --> 00:30:12,593 She was wanting to push for answers and 662 00:30:12,636 --> 00:30:14,026 really push for answers. 663 00:30:14,073 --> 00:30:18,123 And as a mother, I felt for her, and I just... 664 00:30:18,164 --> 00:30:20,434 We had the discussion then, well, 665 00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:21,910 if we start stirring the pot, 666 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:24,340 what's gonna keep them from doing something to, 667 00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:26,127 you know, our children? 668 00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:31,129 It feels like he was probably killed, 669 00:30:31,177 --> 00:30:33,737 that somebody murdered him. It feels that way to me. 670 00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:39,492 That's what the rumblings were at the time, 671 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:41,273 that he had been murdered. 672 00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:44,487 And I could certainly see that happening with Gino, you know. 673 00:30:44,538 --> 00:30:46,848 Some of the people he hung with were powerful people. 674 00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:49,938 He may have pissed somebody off. 675 00:30:49,978 --> 00:30:55,548 If he were in some way involved with a drug ring... 676 00:30:55,592 --> 00:30:57,902 Maybe he knew something. 677 00:30:57,943 --> 00:31:00,033 And... 678 00:31:00,075 --> 00:31:05,115 Maybe they were worried he would talk. 679 00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:08,477 Conspiracy theories about Gino's death lingered on, 680 00:31:08,518 --> 00:31:10,128 but it would take over 30 years 681 00:31:10,172 --> 00:31:12,442 before answers began to surface. 682 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:22,534 In the days leading up to Gino's mysterious death, 683 00:31:22,576 --> 00:31:25,006 those closest to him noticed that he seemed 684 00:31:25,057 --> 00:31:30,537 fearful of something, or... someone. 685 00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:32,114 Of course, you know, this is, 686 00:31:32,151 --> 00:31:34,461 this is hearsay, you know. 687 00:31:34,501 --> 00:31:39,031 But, it seems to be that general consensus that he, 688 00:31:39,071 --> 00:31:42,291 weeks leading up, or prior to his death, 689 00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:44,945 he felt like he, somebody was going to kill him. 690 00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:48,730 To hear multiple people saying that they got that 691 00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:52,346 from him as well, maybe this was a very real possibility. 692 00:31:52,388 --> 00:31:54,738 You know, maybe this is what happened. 693 00:31:57,002 --> 00:32:00,702 I was going to my car and he was coming in, and, 694 00:32:00,744 --> 00:32:02,534 and he says, "Hey, why don't you come along, 695 00:32:02,572 --> 00:32:05,312 have a couple drinks?" So, I said, "Okay." 696 00:32:05,358 --> 00:32:07,968 We actually walked to his apartment. 697 00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:14,243 He walked into the kitchen and he had a cabinet above his sink. 698 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,850 He took out a cereal bowl and the bowl was full of cocaine. 699 00:32:19,894 --> 00:32:21,814 There was a lot of cocaine in there. 700 00:32:21,852 --> 00:32:23,812 And he put that on the counter, 701 00:32:23,854 --> 00:32:26,554 and he started using the cocaine. 702 00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:31,343 It wasn't very long, maybe... 703 00:32:31,384 --> 00:32:34,174 30 minutes, 40 minutes later, 704 00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:39,263 he stopped speaking and when I talked he said, "Sh!" 705 00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,695 He wasn't being angry to me, but he was, 706 00:32:41,742 --> 00:32:44,142 "Sh, don't speak." 707 00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:47,619 He kept going to the back and looking out the window. 708 00:32:47,661 --> 00:32:51,011 He had a, quite intense paranoia. 709 00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:54,096 He puts a plug in the sink, and... 710 00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:56,706 turns on the water. 711 00:32:56,757 --> 00:32:59,847 The water started coming over the top, 712 00:32:59,890 --> 00:33:02,330 dripping onto the floor. 713 00:33:02,371 --> 00:33:05,511 I go to pull the plug out of the sink and 714 00:33:05,548 --> 00:33:08,988 he stops me, pulls me back. 715 00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:10,990 He was like, "Sh!" 716 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:14,642 The water was still falling on the floor. 717 00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:16,908 I turned, just around a little bit, 718 00:33:16,951 --> 00:33:20,091 and he had a gun in his hand. 719 00:33:20,128 --> 00:33:24,738 My heart started to beat kind of fast, 720 00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:29,305 and he was holding me, telling me to be really quiet, and... 721 00:33:29,355 --> 00:33:33,525 Could hear nothing but the water. 722 00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:36,876 And he seemed to be comforted that 723 00:33:36,927 --> 00:33:39,497 it was covering up sound of some kind, 724 00:33:39,539 --> 00:33:42,319 just the sound of the water seemed, 725 00:33:42,368 --> 00:33:47,288 for whatever reason, he found that comforting. 726 00:33:47,329 --> 00:33:49,849 He would go to the windows and he would just 727 00:33:49,897 --> 00:33:54,417 stare outside into the darkness, over and over again, 728 00:33:54,467 --> 00:33:59,427 just looking outside into the darkness. 729 00:33:59,472 --> 00:34:03,352 You can see he was afraid, it seemed, of the dark... 730 00:34:03,389 --> 00:34:05,429 in his mind. 731 00:34:12,528 --> 00:34:13,878 Yeah, 'cause I was doing them with him. 732 00:34:13,921 --> 00:34:16,661 Duh. 733 00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:19,356 You know, I was no saint, man. 734 00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:21,885 I know that Gino was doing coke and I don't know 735 00:34:21,929 --> 00:34:25,319 how much he was doing, but the night I was there 736 00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:28,537 he damn sure had some, quite a bit there, you know. 737 00:34:28,588 --> 00:34:31,368 Wasn't no 8-ball, that's for damn sure. 738 00:34:31,417 --> 00:34:34,897 I was surprised that there was not any cocaine 739 00:34:34,942 --> 00:34:36,642 found by the police. 740 00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:39,643 But I did hear rumors that it was cleaned up. 741 00:34:39,686 --> 00:34:41,506 I would just say a good source told me that 742 00:34:41,557 --> 00:34:44,037 Rick was kind of enough to immediately-- 743 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:45,562 there was a bowl. 744 00:34:45,605 --> 00:34:47,475 He said it was crazy, it was almost like a sugar bowl. 745 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,180 And he said, "I've never seen that much blow in my life. 746 00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:52,348 It was full of coke." 747 00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:55,144 Just out of reaction, he just took it and dumped it. 748 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:58,310 I don't think anyone else that was even there knew that. 749 00:34:58,357 --> 00:34:59,917 I don't know who he thought maybe he was protecting, 750 00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:01,967 but you know... 751 00:35:02,012 --> 00:35:03,712 I think he just did it out of instinct. 752 00:35:03,753 --> 00:35:06,893 Some of the wrestlers, including Chris, 753 00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:08,930 said there might be more to it. 754 00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:12,676 Where was he getting so much cocaine from? 755 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,549 I was afraid then, very afraid, 756 00:35:17,593 --> 00:35:19,643 'cause I haven't talked about it all these years... 757 00:35:19,682 --> 00:35:21,822 'cause I, I got tired of looking over my shoulder 758 00:35:21,858 --> 00:35:23,898 every time I walked out the apartment, 759 00:35:23,947 --> 00:35:26,907 and I been living like that ever since. 760 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:30,170 Nobody should have to live like that. 761 00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:32,475 Took a lot of my life away from me. 762 00:35:32,521 --> 00:35:36,531 And now, you know, 77, where do I go from here? 763 00:35:37,831 --> 00:35:41,011 It's too much secrecy, too much lying. 764 00:35:41,051 --> 00:35:43,051 Too much deceit. 765 00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:45,967 I truly believe he's not here today because of the 766 00:35:46,013 --> 00:35:48,363 people he chose to be around. 767 00:35:48,407 --> 00:35:52,537 I have nothing to lose 'cause I've already lost part of it. 768 00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:54,625 You know, you can't take any more away from me 769 00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,074 than you already have. 770 00:35:57,111 --> 00:36:01,421 All we really want is just an answer. 771 00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:03,903 Shortly after Gino's family told their story, 772 00:36:03,944 --> 00:36:06,904 producers contacted John Royal by phone. 773 00:36:06,947 --> 00:36:09,907 He had recently served a 30-year prison term 774 00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:11,690 for trafficking cocaine. 775 00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:15,004 What follows is their recorded conversation. 776 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:17,612 We're doing a documentary about Gino and 777 00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:20,093 we've been talking a lot with his family, 778 00:36:20,134 --> 00:36:22,184 and your name has come up a couple of times 'cause 779 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:24,533 you were close friends with Gino. 780 00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:26,533 Gino's mother had told us a story, 781 00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:31,055 a time when you approached her and had told her 782 00:36:31,101 --> 00:36:32,841 that you were gonna pay for the funeral, 783 00:36:32,886 --> 00:36:34,016 is that true? 784 00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:37,761 I think you had also said that Gino had 785 00:36:37,804 --> 00:36:39,204 owed you a lot of money. 786 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:40,680 Is that something that you had said to her as well? 787 00:36:46,116 --> 00:36:48,986 Right. 788 00:36:49,032 --> 00:36:51,172 Well, that's really good to know. 789 00:37:00,043 --> 00:37:03,793 Had you ever heard any rumors about, you know, 790 00:37:03,830 --> 00:37:08,700 Gino's death not being something that was accidental? Like... 791 00:37:08,748 --> 00:37:09,838 No. 792 00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:18,112 Right. 793 00:37:43,652 --> 00:37:45,612 In addition to John Royal's story, 794 00:37:45,654 --> 00:37:48,534 a former drug trafficker who asked to remain anonymous 795 00:37:48,570 --> 00:37:52,180 has come forward with his version of events. 796 00:37:52,226 --> 00:37:54,746 Yeah, I really want to remain anonymous. 797 00:37:54,794 --> 00:37:57,064 This was 30 years ago and I'm not really here 798 00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:59,580 to sugarcoat anything. I wanted to tell the truth. 799 00:37:59,625 --> 00:38:01,315 You know, I would like to set the record straight for 800 00:38:01,366 --> 00:38:05,066 the people who are concerned about Gino's demise. 801 00:38:05,108 --> 00:38:07,888 I wanted you to hear first what he had to say 802 00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:11,157 about... about him and about, and about everything. 803 00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:12,991 Thank you very much. I'm sorry. 804 00:38:13,029 --> 00:38:16,029 It's okay. I know this is-- 805 00:38:16,076 --> 00:38:20,246 When you wait this long, 32 years... 806 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:26,130 And yes, I miss him. I pray for him every day. 807 00:38:26,173 --> 00:38:28,353 I talk to him. She knows that. 808 00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:30,443 I get up at 4 o'clock every morning. 809 00:38:30,482 --> 00:38:33,572 - She was up this morning. - Yeah, never miss a day. 810 00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:36,965 - She prayed for two hours. - Yeah, I do that. 811 00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:38,580 Okay, let me know when you're ready. 812 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:41,710 - Okay. I'm ready. - Okay. 813 00:38:41,754 --> 00:38:43,234 There's nothing I can gain from this. 814 00:38:43,277 --> 00:38:45,187 I'm only doing this because I don't want Gino's family 815 00:38:45,235 --> 00:38:46,925 to worry one more minute. 816 00:38:46,976 --> 00:38:48,976 If they've been worried for 30 years, they worried, 817 00:38:49,022 --> 00:38:53,682 you know, 29 years and 364 days too long. 818 00:38:53,722 --> 00:38:56,332 I met Gino through some of the other people in the group 819 00:38:56,377 --> 00:38:58,337 and we got to be good friends. 820 00:38:58,379 --> 00:39:00,769 This was the 80s and disco was popular, 821 00:39:00,816 --> 00:39:05,816 and the cocaine and drugs were all just a part of that culture, 822 00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:07,945 and we kind of saw the opportunity to get 823 00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:09,777 involved in selling drugs. 824 00:39:09,825 --> 00:39:11,825 And, one of the guys in the group had... 825 00:39:11,871 --> 00:39:13,441 cultivated a connection. 826 00:39:13,481 --> 00:39:16,221 He would bring it in and he would give us each 827 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:19,046 a certain amount of it, and not many people know 828 00:39:19,095 --> 00:39:20,395 that Gino was involved in this. 829 00:39:20,445 --> 00:39:21,915 He was a professional wrestler, 830 00:39:21,968 --> 00:39:24,358 and he saw us starting to make some money and 831 00:39:24,405 --> 00:39:26,225 he thought it'd be a good opportunity for him. 832 00:39:26,276 --> 00:39:28,626 He didn't make a lot of money as a wrestler and it was 833 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,890 basically just a way for some young guys to make some money, 834 00:39:30,933 --> 00:39:33,153 and it was just something that everybody was 835 00:39:33,196 --> 00:39:34,846 kind of doing in that period of time. 836 00:39:34,894 --> 00:39:38,424 Do you remember giving a eulogy at Gino's funeral? 837 00:39:41,074 --> 00:39:43,084 Do you remember what you said? 838 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,469 I know it was a long time ago. 839 00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:55,385 It's a great line... 840 00:40:20,853 --> 00:40:23,553 Unfortunately, I felt like Gino started off 841 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:25,765 recreationally using the drugs, 842 00:40:25,814 --> 00:40:27,514 and I think the drugs got hold of him. 843 00:40:27,555 --> 00:40:29,505 And, of course, we were all, you know, 844 00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:31,647 super concerned because we were in a business that 845 00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:33,820 we knew could get us in a lot trouble even though 846 00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:35,866 we weren't gangsters, or... 847 00:40:35,911 --> 00:40:38,481 At the same time, I don't think we saw a cop behind 848 00:40:38,523 --> 00:40:42,793 every bush like Gino seemed to do in the last part of his life. 849 00:40:42,831 --> 00:40:45,091 Just knowing Gino, I would imagine that he probably 850 00:40:45,138 --> 00:40:47,488 went to a club and probably drank a lot of alcohol, 851 00:40:47,532 --> 00:40:49,492 and he probably came back to his apartment, 852 00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:51,364 overdosed on drugs, and died of a 853 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:52,965 combination of drugs and alcohol. 854 00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:08,641 I don't know Gino's family, but I would speak to them 855 00:41:08,683 --> 00:41:12,383 directly and say, do not be concerned about anything 856 00:41:12,426 --> 00:41:15,646 that happened to Gino. It was, basically, 857 00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:18,260 just a situation of his own doing, unfortunately. 858 00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:20,171 I know that's hard to hear because I know you loved him 859 00:41:20,216 --> 00:41:21,866 and I loved him, too, but... 860 00:41:21,914 --> 00:41:23,484 If you're concerned about anything, 861 00:41:23,524 --> 00:41:26,884 you should put that at rest because you've worried for 862 00:41:26,919 --> 00:41:28,359 30 years and I can absolutely tell you 863 00:41:28,398 --> 00:41:30,178 there's nothing to worry about. 864 00:41:34,187 --> 00:41:39,447 I can't take those years back. 865 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:44,327 But I still have my daughter. And... 866 00:41:44,371 --> 00:41:46,851 it's just nice to know that we don't have 867 00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:50,805 anything to worry about. 868 00:41:50,856 --> 00:41:53,546 Not anymore. 869 00:41:53,598 --> 00:41:57,858 And I thank you very much for this. 870 00:41:59,604 --> 00:42:03,264 I want to believe that it was a tragic accident. 871 00:42:03,303 --> 00:42:08,793 I want to believe that... 872 00:42:08,830 --> 00:42:11,350 Somehow, some way... 873 00:42:11,398 --> 00:42:14,658 Um... he made a mistake. 874 00:42:14,706 --> 00:42:16,576 That's what I want to believe. 875 00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:20,231 I'm the type of person, I can forgive anybody. 876 00:42:20,276 --> 00:42:25,366 You know? Yes, I forgive John Royal. 877 00:42:25,412 --> 00:42:28,762 I forgive anybody that I thought the wrong way, 878 00:42:28,807 --> 00:42:31,417 but I didn't know any different. 879 00:42:31,461 --> 00:42:35,511 Had nobody tell me, outright. 880 00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:38,563 Watching my grandma, she, she's lived a sad life. 881 00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:40,819 I mean, she's gone through things and lived through things 882 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:43,522 that no mother should ever have to. 883 00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:46,091 And sometimes you look at her and you think, wow, 884 00:42:46,128 --> 00:42:48,568 you know, you can't believe that she walked that walk and 885 00:42:48,609 --> 00:42:50,179 that she's still smiling today. 886 00:42:50,219 --> 00:42:52,739 But she is, you know, and that's I think 887 00:42:52,787 --> 00:42:55,617 the piece of life that goes on. 888 00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:59,010 But now I know, there's nothing to be afraid of. 889 00:42:59,054 --> 00:43:02,674 Nothing. I feel so good. 890 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:04,890 I could even have a margarita. 891 00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:07,590 All right! 892 00:43:07,628 --> 00:43:09,888 The legacy of Gino Hernandez, unfortunately, 893 00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:12,625 he wasn't around long enough to create one of those. 894 00:43:12,677 --> 00:43:16,767 I would like to see 'em put Gino into the Hall of Fame. 895 00:43:16,811 --> 00:43:19,421 I think Gino was that good. 896 00:43:19,466 --> 00:43:22,376 I want him to be remembered for the person that he was. 897 00:43:24,732 --> 00:43:28,132 And he made me, as his mother, very, very proud. 898 00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:30,870 I hear a lot that I look like my dad. 899 00:43:30,912 --> 00:43:33,612 My mom used to say, "You look like your dad. 900 00:43:33,654 --> 00:43:35,314 You talk like your dad." 901 00:43:35,351 --> 00:43:37,791 It's smooth sailing from here on out! 902 00:43:37,832 --> 00:43:40,572 I have 5 children. I have 2 girls and 3 boys. 903 00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:44,358 And you see little pieces of each of them in him 904 00:43:44,404 --> 00:43:46,804 through those videos; that's what's cool to watch. 905 00:43:46,841 --> 00:43:49,711 With you guys here and doing this, it's, 906 00:43:49,757 --> 00:43:55,417 it's kind of like I finally get my, my peace at heart. 907 00:43:55,458 --> 00:43:57,418 And I thank you for that.