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Hope you enjoy the show !!! 8 00:00:59,424 --> 00:01:01,193 HUGH DOWNS: Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker 9 00:01:01,226 --> 00:01:04,329 were the most famous televangelist couple in America, 10 00:01:04,363 --> 00:01:06,399 and, by far, the most prosperous. 11 00:01:06,432 --> 00:01:08,734 AL DALE: Ken and Barbie of televangelism. 12 00:01:08,766 --> 00:01:10,235 And they seemed honest. 13 00:01:10,269 --> 00:01:13,239 REPORTER 1: They brought encouragement and hope to lots of people. 14 00:01:13,272 --> 00:01:14,373 GERALDO RIVERA: He's the president 15 00:01:14,406 --> 00:01:15,875 of a multi-million dollar religious organization 16 00:01:15,908 --> 00:01:17,710 called the Praise The Lord Club. 17 00:01:17,742 --> 00:01:19,878 REPORTER 2: PTL also operates Heritage Village 18 00:01:19,911 --> 00:01:21,613 in Fort Mill, South Carolina. 19 00:01:21,647 --> 00:01:22,882 REPORTER 3: ...Christian Disney World 20 00:01:22,914 --> 00:01:25,650 where PTL members can vacation with inspiration. 21 00:01:25,683 --> 00:01:27,420 They are among the best-known figures 22 00:01:27,453 --> 00:01:28,988 in the world of television evangelism. 23 00:01:29,021 --> 00:01:31,290 But tonight they are out of business. 24 00:01:31,322 --> 00:01:32,557 ...following the scandal that led 25 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:34,492 to founder Jim Bakker's resignation last week. 26 00:01:34,525 --> 00:01:35,727 There's debate about how much 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,262 the Bakker scandal will hurt 28 00:01:37,295 --> 00:01:38,463 all the television ministries 29 00:01:38,497 --> 00:01:39,364 and quiet concern... 30 00:01:39,397 --> 00:01:41,566 Modern warfare among the TV preachers. 31 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:43,602 In this electronic age, the stakes are high 32 00:01:43,635 --> 00:01:45,003 - with millions of followers... - ...and recriminations. 33 00:01:45,036 --> 00:01:45,937 And caught up in the fighting 34 00:01:45,971 --> 00:01:47,872 are their fellow evangelists Jimmy Swaggart, 35 00:01:47,906 --> 00:01:49,475 Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell. 36 00:01:49,507 --> 00:01:50,810 Now, about what some people around here 37 00:01:50,843 --> 00:01:52,344 are calling "pearly-gate." 38 00:01:52,378 --> 00:01:55,013 Pearly-gate is the story of Jim and Tammy Bakker. 39 00:01:55,046 --> 00:01:56,881 It's remarkably like Watergate, 40 00:01:56,914 --> 00:02:00,452 which tainted the name "politician," 41 00:02:00,486 --> 00:02:05,591 and such an episode is bound to taint the name "preacher." 42 00:02:05,623 --> 00:02:07,760 REPORTER 4: The Bakkers couldn't even get out of their car. 43 00:02:07,792 --> 00:02:09,327 There were so many people waiting to see them 44 00:02:09,361 --> 00:02:10,195 after three months of seclusion. 45 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:11,397 REPORTER 5: ...busloads of tourists, 46 00:02:11,429 --> 00:02:14,033 hoping to get a glimpse of the elusive evangelists, 47 00:02:14,065 --> 00:02:16,668 but they had no better luck than the waiting newspeople. 48 00:02:20,939 --> 00:02:24,010 WOMAN: Okay, I'm gonna start by taking some of this off. 49 00:02:24,042 --> 00:02:25,510 TAMMY: Okay. 50 00:02:25,543 --> 00:02:27,313 WOMAN: Gonna take your foundation off. 51 00:02:27,345 --> 00:02:28,480 TAMMY: M'kay. 52 00:02:28,513 --> 00:02:31,316 WOMAN: And then we'll start fresh. 53 00:02:31,350 --> 00:02:32,719 Can you take your lips off? 54 00:02:39,624 --> 00:02:41,393 - Okay. - Do you want a little remover? 55 00:02:41,427 --> 00:02:44,997 Oh, no. That's it. 56 00:02:45,029 --> 00:02:47,033 That'll be all. They're permanently lined. 57 00:02:47,065 --> 00:02:48,566 WOMAN: Oh. 58 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,069 And my eyes are permanently lined 59 00:02:50,101 --> 00:02:51,936 and my eyebrows are permanently on, 60 00:02:51,970 --> 00:02:54,774 so there's not a whole lot you can do. (chuckles) 61 00:02:54,807 --> 00:02:56,042 WOMAN: My goodness, 62 00:02:56,075 --> 00:02:58,310 - I... I didn't know. - Mm. 63 00:02:58,344 --> 00:03:00,079 Have you never done pictures without those eyelashes? 64 00:03:00,112 --> 00:03:01,480 Nope, and I never will 65 00:03:01,512 --> 00:03:02,914 because that's my trademark. 66 00:03:02,947 --> 00:03:06,552 And, you know, if I take that away, then it's not me, 67 00:03:06,584 --> 00:03:08,521 and no one's gonna wanna look at me without my trademark. 68 00:03:08,553 --> 00:03:09,821 So, I hold onto that. 69 00:03:09,855 --> 00:03:11,524 Even if we softened 'em up and kept... 70 00:03:11,557 --> 00:03:14,393 No. No, you can do anything you want, 71 00:03:14,426 --> 00:03:17,029 but my eyelashes stay right where they are. 72 00:03:17,061 --> 00:03:18,763 WOMAN: That's really you. 73 00:03:18,797 --> 00:03:20,066 TAMMY: Mm. 74 00:03:20,099 --> 00:03:22,968 Oh, yeah, this is who I am. (chuckles) 75 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,403 (camera clicking) 76 00:03:38,716 --> 00:03:41,854 PREACHER: I didn't know what the words "glory" or "hallelujah" be 77 00:03:41,886 --> 00:03:43,755 because the devil is all around us! 78 00:03:43,789 --> 00:03:44,890 - (piano playing) - Oh, yes, he is! 79 00:03:44,923 --> 00:03:47,625 And it's up to you to resist his temptations. Hallelujah! 80 00:03:47,659 --> 00:03:48,727 (congregation exclaiming) 81 00:03:48,761 --> 00:03:50,496 If you're not saved by Jesus, 82 00:03:50,529 --> 00:03:52,698 you open yourself up to demons 83 00:03:52,731 --> 00:03:56,102 and the devil will make a home in you! 84 00:03:56,135 --> 00:03:57,570 WOMAN: Glory to God! 85 00:03:57,602 --> 00:03:58,903 When God spoke peace to my heart, 86 00:03:58,936 --> 00:04:01,640 I didn't know how to say glory or hallelujah, 87 00:04:01,672 --> 00:04:03,441 but I got saved! 88 00:04:03,475 --> 00:04:05,043 I leapt upon that altar. 89 00:04:05,077 --> 00:04:07,146 Jesus told me He loved me, 90 00:04:07,178 --> 00:04:09,848 and He will love you. 91 00:04:09,881 --> 00:04:10,783 (woman exclaiming) 92 00:04:10,816 --> 00:04:13,952 He speaks through her. Say, "Hallelujah!" 93 00:04:13,986 --> 00:04:15,754 CONGREGATION: Hallelujah! 94 00:04:15,787 --> 00:04:18,691 PREACHER: She is with the Holy Spirit right now! 95 00:04:18,723 --> 00:04:20,659 Feel the spirit! Say, "Glory. 96 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,595 "Glory to God." 97 00:04:22,627 --> 00:04:23,862 CONGREGATION: Glory to God! 98 00:04:23,896 --> 00:04:26,665 PREACHER: You too, sister! Feel the spirit. 99 00:04:26,698 --> 00:04:28,468 Raise your hands up, folks. 100 00:04:30,569 --> 00:04:32,037 LITTLE TAMMY: I was here. 101 00:04:32,069 --> 00:04:33,738 Here the whole time. 102 00:04:33,771 --> 00:04:36,174 Little girls go to Hell for lying. 103 00:04:36,208 --> 00:04:37,943 Honest and true. 104 00:04:37,975 --> 00:04:39,545 I wanna be saved. 105 00:04:40,946 --> 00:04:42,448 If you let me come in with you, 106 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,617 God'd love me like He's supposed to. 107 00:04:44,650 --> 00:04:46,552 There's reasons you can't be seen in church, Tam. 108 00:04:46,585 --> 00:04:48,487 Grown-up reasons. 109 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,590 Is it because everyone thinks you're a harlot? 110 00:04:52,557 --> 00:04:53,425 And I come from a time 111 00:04:53,458 --> 00:04:55,127 before Fred made you respectable and stuff. 112 00:04:57,463 --> 00:04:58,963 Only reason they let me back 113 00:04:58,997 --> 00:05:01,434 is 'cause nobody but me can play the piano. 114 00:05:01,467 --> 00:05:04,003 But you remind them I was divorced. 115 00:05:04,035 --> 00:05:06,137 They see you, 116 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:07,939 all of us is going to be banished. 117 00:05:09,475 --> 00:05:11,510 The souls of all your brothers and sisters 118 00:05:11,542 --> 00:05:13,946 burning in Hell because you don't listen 119 00:05:13,978 --> 00:05:15,947 and you can't sit still. 120 00:05:18,484 --> 00:05:19,886 (sniffling) 121 00:05:22,754 --> 00:05:24,189 Stop performing. 122 00:05:28,193 --> 00:05:30,496 (in puppet voice) You're going to Hell, Tammy. 123 00:05:30,528 --> 00:05:33,832 You don't belong here. You don't belong anywhere. 124 00:05:33,865 --> 00:05:35,533 You're ugly. 125 00:05:35,566 --> 00:05:38,537 You've got a demon inside you. 126 00:05:38,569 --> 00:05:40,572 (in normal voice) But I don't wanna go to Hell. 127 00:05:41,407 --> 00:05:43,008 (in puppet voice) If they loved you, 128 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,776 they wouldn't leave you here. 129 00:05:45,576 --> 00:05:46,978 (in normal voice) They love me. 130 00:05:47,011 --> 00:05:49,182 (in puppet voice) They love you not. 131 00:05:52,684 --> 00:05:55,521 (in normal voice) Jesus, come into my heart 132 00:05:55,554 --> 00:05:58,224 and forgive me my sins. 133 00:05:58,256 --> 00:06:01,660 I don't know what this is everybody's getting, 134 00:06:01,693 --> 00:06:02,829 but if it's real, 135 00:06:03,328 --> 00:06:05,497 then, please, Jesus, 136 00:06:05,530 --> 00:06:06,932 give that to me. 137 00:06:09,234 --> 00:06:11,203 - (piano playing) - PREACHER: Amen! 138 00:06:11,235 --> 00:06:14,072 Be strong in the Lord and His mighty power. 139 00:06:14,105 --> 00:06:15,673 Put on the armor of God 140 00:06:15,706 --> 00:06:16,841 so that you can take your stand 141 00:06:16,874 --> 00:06:18,744 against the devil's schemes. 142 00:06:18,776 --> 00:06:21,713 For our struggle isn't against flesh and blood, 143 00:06:21,747 --> 00:06:24,783 but against the powers of this dark world! 144 00:06:24,816 --> 00:06:26,685 Casting down imaginations 145 00:06:26,718 --> 00:06:30,222 on every high thing that exalts itself. 146 00:06:30,254 --> 00:06:32,223 - Do you feel love? - CONGREGATION: Yes. 147 00:06:32,256 --> 00:06:34,192 PREACHER: You feel it, sister! I know you feel it! 148 00:06:35,294 --> 00:06:37,162 You too, brother? 149 00:06:37,194 --> 00:06:38,763 If you feel the love, 150 00:06:38,797 --> 00:06:40,566 - say, "Hallelujah!" - CONGREGATION: Hallelujah! 151 00:06:40,598 --> 00:06:43,167 - PREACHER: Say, "Glory to God!" - CONGREGATION: Glory to God! 152 00:06:43,201 --> 00:06:44,670 PREACHER: Accept the blood! 153 00:06:44,703 --> 00:06:46,238 Feel love forever! 154 00:06:46,271 --> 00:06:47,573 CONGREGATION: Hallelujah! 155 00:06:47,605 --> 00:06:49,607 WOMAN: Praise the Lord! 156 00:06:49,641 --> 00:06:51,143 Are you ready to accept the love? 157 00:06:51,809 --> 00:06:52,944 Yes. 158 00:06:52,977 --> 00:06:54,847 (congregation clamoring) 159 00:07:02,853 --> 00:07:04,556 (breathing heavily) 160 00:07:05,290 --> 00:07:07,059 (speaking in tongues) 161 00:07:07,826 --> 00:07:08,960 Tammy Faye! 162 00:07:11,162 --> 00:07:14,333 I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry. 163 00:07:14,365 --> 00:07:16,067 (continues speaking in tongues) 164 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:18,170 No, Tammy! 165 00:07:18,203 --> 00:07:20,172 Tammy, get up. 166 00:07:20,605 --> 00:07:22,775 He is with us! 167 00:07:22,807 --> 00:07:24,709 She's peeing herself! Praise God! 168 00:07:25,143 --> 00:07:26,679 Yes! 169 00:07:26,711 --> 00:07:28,846 - Tammy, I said get up. - WOMAN: Shush now. 170 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:31,783 This baby is a miracle. Don't you take her from us. 171 00:07:32,884 --> 00:07:34,886 (continues speaking in tongues) 172 00:07:37,655 --> 00:07:38,891 MAN: Mr. Bakker? 173 00:07:39,323 --> 00:07:40,992 JIM: Yes, sir? 174 00:07:41,025 --> 00:07:42,093 (Jim clears throat) 175 00:07:42,927 --> 00:07:43,963 Thank you. 176 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:49,101 (Jim breathes deeply) 177 00:07:50,235 --> 00:07:51,369 (Jim clears throat) 178 00:07:51,403 --> 00:07:53,873 Um, sorry. 179 00:07:56,208 --> 00:07:58,110 I would like to start with a verse. 180 00:07:58,143 --> 00:08:03,749 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper" 181 00:08:03,782 --> 00:08:07,820 "and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." 182 00:08:07,852 --> 00:08:09,287 That is John 3, verse 2, 183 00:08:09,321 --> 00:08:12,157 and it's written right here in the good book. 184 00:08:12,189 --> 00:08:14,326 He gave me this verse last night. 185 00:08:14,359 --> 00:08:17,329 God, He came right down and He whispered it in my ear. 186 00:08:17,362 --> 00:08:19,131 He said, "Jim Bakker," 187 00:08:19,163 --> 00:08:22,735 "I intend for you to thrive," 188 00:08:22,768 --> 00:08:25,203 "to live, and to love" 189 00:08:25,237 --> 00:08:27,206 "in this life." 190 00:08:27,239 --> 00:08:28,340 He said it to me. 191 00:08:28,372 --> 00:08:30,809 But us Christians, 192 00:08:30,842 --> 00:08:33,912 we've been taught that we're supposed to 193 00:08:33,944 --> 00:08:36,348 expect failure. 194 00:08:36,716 --> 00:08:37,983 (Jim chuckles) 195 00:08:38,016 --> 00:08:39,351 - (sighs) - When Jesus calls you home, 196 00:08:39,383 --> 00:08:41,019 you think you're going to get a bonus 197 00:08:41,053 --> 00:08:43,155 if you make yourself miserable? 198 00:08:43,188 --> 00:08:44,189 (chuckles) 199 00:08:44,223 --> 00:08:46,424 You think if you deny yourself indoor plumbing, 200 00:08:46,458 --> 00:08:48,026 or if you don't have shoes 201 00:08:48,059 --> 00:08:49,962 - on your feet... - (book clatters) 202 00:08:51,096 --> 00:08:52,631 (softly) I'm... I'm sorry. 203 00:08:55,434 --> 00:08:56,636 Go ahead. 204 00:08:59,871 --> 00:09:01,340 You know, Heaven, 205 00:09:01,372 --> 00:09:03,408 Heaven is heaven, that is for sure. 206 00:09:03,442 --> 00:09:06,145 But God's hope for us 207 00:09:06,178 --> 00:09:10,115 is that we live and we thrive and we love here 208 00:09:10,147 --> 00:09:11,349 in the promised land. 209 00:09:11,382 --> 00:09:13,017 Here and now. 210 00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:16,988 Here and now, and in this very, very moment. 211 00:09:17,021 --> 00:09:18,256 (exhales heavily) Hallelujah! 212 00:09:18,290 --> 00:09:20,992 God does not want us to be poor! 213 00:09:21,025 --> 00:09:22,861 (laughs) Oh, no! 214 00:09:22,894 --> 00:09:26,198 He will gift the faithful with eternal life, 215 00:09:26,231 --> 00:09:29,333 eternal love, and eternal wealth! 216 00:09:29,367 --> 00:09:33,105 Hallelujah! Praise God! Praise Him! 217 00:09:34,305 --> 00:09:36,040 (exhales deeply) 218 00:09:36,073 --> 00:09:37,376 Be right to remember, 219 00:09:37,409 --> 00:09:40,078 "Blessed be the poor," Mr. Bakker. 220 00:09:40,112 --> 00:09:42,247 Doesn't sound very blessed to me. 221 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,281 (laughing) 222 00:09:45,784 --> 00:09:49,354 You two are here to learn the ways of the Lord through scripture, yeah? 223 00:09:49,386 --> 00:09:50,421 Yes, sir. 224 00:09:50,454 --> 00:09:51,489 And to spread the word of God. 225 00:09:51,522 --> 00:09:52,723 Oh, yeah. You know, 226 00:09:52,757 --> 00:09:55,026 I'm gonna sing the word in every tent, in every church. 227 00:09:55,059 --> 00:09:57,929 You know, God told me that that's what He wants for me. 228 00:09:59,865 --> 00:10:01,701 With makeup on your face? 229 00:10:02,635 --> 00:10:04,837 - MAN: (softly) Ahem. Jezebel. - (woman laughs) 230 00:10:05,370 --> 00:10:06,372 (Tammy chuckling) 231 00:10:10,275 --> 00:10:12,111 "I do my best to maintain always 232 00:10:12,144 --> 00:10:13,212 "a blameless conscience, 233 00:10:13,245 --> 00:10:15,448 "both before God and before men." 234 00:10:17,482 --> 00:10:19,785 "A man who keeps company with harlots 235 00:10:20,986 --> 00:10:22,386 "wastes his wealth." 236 00:10:22,420 --> 00:10:24,957 Proverbs 29:3. 237 00:10:24,990 --> 00:10:29,194 "Your stature is like that of a palm and your breasts 238 00:10:29,227 --> 00:10:30,529 "like clusters of fruit. 239 00:10:30,562 --> 00:10:32,898 "I will take hold of the palm tree." 240 00:10:32,930 --> 00:10:36,301 "And I will take hold of the fruit." 241 00:10:37,468 --> 00:10:39,170 That's the Song of Solomon. 242 00:10:39,203 --> 00:10:41,239 7:7. 243 00:10:43,407 --> 00:10:45,042 (indistinct chatter) 244 00:10:45,075 --> 00:10:48,179 JIM: I'm sorry I couldn't drive you someplace nice. 245 00:10:48,213 --> 00:10:50,783 Oh, this is someplace nice, Jim. 246 00:10:51,617 --> 00:10:53,452 Tell me something. Tell me a secret. 247 00:10:53,484 --> 00:10:55,219 Something that no one else knows about. 248 00:10:55,252 --> 00:10:56,287 Oh, I have no secrets. 249 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,790 I'll tell you anything you wanna know. 250 00:10:57,823 --> 00:10:58,991 We'll start with everything. 251 00:10:59,024 --> 00:11:00,226 (laughs) 252 00:11:00,925 --> 00:11:02,493 - Okay. - (laughs) 253 00:11:02,526 --> 00:11:03,929 I'm the oldest of eight children 254 00:11:03,962 --> 00:11:05,864 and I'm a very practical person. 255 00:11:05,896 --> 00:11:07,366 And what you see is all there is of me. 256 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:09,134 You know, I don't pretend to be something I'm not 257 00:11:09,166 --> 00:11:10,902 because what you see is all you get. 258 00:11:10,935 --> 00:11:12,537 And I love people. 259 00:11:12,570 --> 00:11:16,040 I have a genuine, genuine love for people. 260 00:11:16,073 --> 00:11:18,309 And I hurt when people hurt, 261 00:11:18,343 --> 00:11:20,545 and probably a little more dramatic than people would like me to be. 262 00:11:20,578 --> 00:11:24,549 But I enjoy that. That's just who I am. 263 00:11:24,583 --> 00:11:27,185 I've never met anyone quite like you, Tammy Faye. 264 00:11:27,218 --> 00:11:28,386 (chuckles) 265 00:11:28,420 --> 00:11:29,987 (laughs) 266 00:11:30,021 --> 00:11:31,256 Okay. 267 00:11:31,289 --> 00:11:34,527 So, um, do you have any secrets, Jim? 268 00:11:35,492 --> 00:11:38,229 (laughing) Well, one or two. 269 00:11:39,130 --> 00:11:41,033 Well, tell me. 270 00:11:41,065 --> 00:11:45,203 Well, before God found me, I wanted to be a radio deejay. 271 00:11:45,237 --> 00:11:46,572 (gasps) 272 00:11:46,604 --> 00:11:48,606 - No. - Yes. 273 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,244 I used to love to make people dance. 274 00:11:52,276 --> 00:11:54,179 Have fun. 275 00:11:54,212 --> 00:11:56,415 - Little Richard. - (chuckles) 276 00:11:56,448 --> 00:11:58,083 And Buddy Holly and... 277 00:11:58,617 --> 00:12:00,185 Oh, and Fats Domino. 278 00:12:02,219 --> 00:12:04,189 What happened? Why didn't you do it, Jim? 279 00:12:04,222 --> 00:12:05,256 Ah. 280 00:12:06,091 --> 00:12:07,893 Never mind that. 281 00:12:07,925 --> 00:12:08,927 Tell me. 282 00:12:10,127 --> 00:12:12,163 Um, I don't think... 283 00:12:14,632 --> 00:12:18,069 Well, all right. I'll tell you, Tammy. Um... 284 00:12:18,102 --> 00:12:20,171 (sighs) Two years ago, I was on a date 285 00:12:20,204 --> 00:12:21,540 with my girlfriend, Sandy, and... 286 00:12:21,573 --> 00:12:22,941 - (softly) Mm. - Oh, no, 287 00:12:22,973 --> 00:12:24,642 with my girlfriend at the time. 288 00:12:24,675 --> 00:12:26,277 - Mm. - But, anyhoo, 289 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:27,646 I borrowed my daddy's car to take her out, 290 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,949 and there was all this snow on the ground 291 00:12:31,982 --> 00:12:36,420 and Fats was singing Blueberry Hill 292 00:12:36,453 --> 00:12:37,890 so loud 293 00:12:39,424 --> 00:12:41,293 and I... I was having these urges 294 00:12:41,325 --> 00:12:43,561 that only the devil would approve of 295 00:12:43,594 --> 00:12:46,364 and I lost control of the car. 296 00:12:49,668 --> 00:12:52,371 And I ran over a little boy, 297 00:12:52,404 --> 00:12:54,006 - little Jimmy Summerfield. - (gasps softly) 298 00:12:54,872 --> 00:12:57,174 I ruptured Jimmy Summerfield's lung... 299 00:12:57,208 --> 00:12:59,611 - (sighs) - ...with my daddy's tire. 300 00:12:59,644 --> 00:13:01,113 I didn't sleep all night. 301 00:13:01,146 --> 00:13:03,915 I was just up worried sick about that boy dying. 302 00:13:03,948 --> 00:13:05,416 So, I... 303 00:13:05,449 --> 00:13:07,386 I made a bargain with God. 304 00:13:07,419 --> 00:13:09,087 I said to Him, 305 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,356 "I will forsake my dream of being a deejay. 306 00:13:11,389 --> 00:13:16,161 "I will stop peddling in rock and roll 307 00:13:16,194 --> 00:13:20,464 "and I'll dedicate my life to Him and Him alone. 308 00:13:20,497 --> 00:13:23,401 "If He sees fit to save that boy's life, 309 00:13:23,434 --> 00:13:26,972 "He will win two souls right then and there." 310 00:13:29,006 --> 00:13:30,675 And what happened to Jimmy Summerfield? 311 00:13:31,675 --> 00:13:32,944 He lived. 312 00:13:32,977 --> 00:13:34,346 - Oh. - Yes. 313 00:13:34,378 --> 00:13:36,380 - Praise be to God. - Yes, praise Him. 314 00:13:36,414 --> 00:13:37,482 (Tammy sighs in relief) 315 00:13:39,184 --> 00:13:40,319 So... 316 00:13:42,187 --> 00:13:44,222 You still like me? 317 00:13:44,255 --> 00:13:47,192 Oh, sure, I do, Jim. 318 00:13:47,224 --> 00:13:50,428 Oh, even more now that you were honest with me. 319 00:13:52,697 --> 00:13:54,099 I'll tell ya, I do miss dancing. 320 00:13:57,035 --> 00:14:00,039 ♫ I found my thrill ♫ 321 00:14:01,473 --> 00:14:05,209 ♫ On Blueberry Hill ♫ 322 00:14:05,242 --> 00:14:06,277 (Jim chuckles) 323 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:09,415 ♫ I found my thrill ♫ 324 00:14:11,149 --> 00:14:14,251 ♫ When I found you ♫ 325 00:14:14,285 --> 00:14:15,487 (whispers) You're so loud. 326 00:14:16,286 --> 00:14:17,388 Dance with me, Jim. 327 00:14:18,155 --> 00:14:19,424 Here? No, I can't. 328 00:14:19,457 --> 00:14:22,027 In front of all these people? Like, no... 329 00:14:22,059 --> 00:14:23,161 Please? 330 00:14:24,462 --> 00:14:25,631 (chuckling) 331 00:14:26,765 --> 00:14:30,468 ♫ The moon stood still ♫ 332 00:14:30,501 --> 00:14:34,473 ♫ On Blueberry Hill ♫ 333 00:14:34,506 --> 00:14:38,309 - ♫ And lingered until ♫ - (snickering quietly) 334 00:14:39,276 --> 00:14:43,047 ♫ My dreams came true ♫ 335 00:14:46,150 --> 00:14:48,152 (rock 'n' roll music playing on speaker) 336 00:14:51,389 --> 00:14:53,258 Oh, we can't. 337 00:14:53,290 --> 00:14:54,459 I know. 338 00:14:55,325 --> 00:14:57,428 (Tammy gasping) 339 00:15:00,431 --> 00:15:02,100 - We can't. - I know. 340 00:15:04,234 --> 00:15:05,736 (Jim gasps, moans) 341 00:15:05,770 --> 00:15:09,208 Oh. Oh, we can't. 342 00:15:11,175 --> 00:15:12,176 I know. 343 00:15:13,678 --> 00:15:15,314 (music playing faintly on speaker) 344 00:15:16,481 --> 00:15:17,516 Yeah! 345 00:15:19,550 --> 00:15:21,118 What'd you do? 346 00:15:21,151 --> 00:15:23,622 Hello, Mother. This is Jim Bakker, 347 00:15:23,655 --> 00:15:25,424 my husband. (chuckling) 348 00:15:25,457 --> 00:15:27,626 JIM: Hello, Mother. (chuckles) 349 00:15:27,659 --> 00:15:32,197 Oh, it's such a blessing to finally meet you. 350 00:15:39,237 --> 00:15:40,372 TAMMY: No. 351 00:15:40,405 --> 00:15:42,107 No, Mother, we can't go back to school. 352 00:15:42,140 --> 00:15:44,476 They have a rule against students marrying one another. 353 00:15:44,508 --> 00:15:46,377 Did you know they had that rule when you did this? 354 00:15:46,410 --> 00:15:49,448 If I know the two of you, you're just gonna love Jim. 355 00:15:49,481 --> 00:15:50,715 Oh, he's so motivated. 356 00:15:50,747 --> 00:15:52,550 He has so many big ideas. 357 00:15:52,583 --> 00:15:54,419 Did you know? 358 00:15:54,452 --> 00:15:56,088 (muffled conversation) 359 00:16:01,391 --> 00:16:02,427 (Jim chuckles) 360 00:16:05,295 --> 00:16:08,532 Well, you can educate yourself right out of a relationship with God. 361 00:16:08,565 --> 00:16:10,468 He has a plan for us. 362 00:16:10,501 --> 00:16:13,771 - God or that Jim boy? - God. 363 00:16:13,804 --> 00:16:15,607 What'd He tell ya to do this time? 364 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,444 Come spring, me and Jim are going to be traveling preachers, 365 00:16:19,477 --> 00:16:21,146 bringing God's love to all people. 366 00:16:21,179 --> 00:16:24,116 Anyone who's hurting or they feel like they've been left out. 367 00:16:24,149 --> 00:16:25,851 Jim will preach and I'll sing. 368 00:16:25,883 --> 00:16:29,320 And we'll be like Oral Roberts and his wife. 369 00:16:29,353 --> 00:16:31,555 Oral Roberts went to college. 370 00:16:31,588 --> 00:16:34,593 - (sighs) - He has one named for him. 371 00:16:34,626 --> 00:16:36,660 God said that we're supposed to have a good life. 372 00:16:36,694 --> 00:16:39,231 That way, we can help bring his love to all people. 373 00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:41,733 There's a limit to God's love, Tammy Faye. 374 00:16:42,666 --> 00:16:44,136 TAMMY,JIM: No. 375 00:16:44,169 --> 00:16:48,340 No, there's no limit to God's love, Mrs. Grover, 376 00:16:48,372 --> 00:16:51,443 and there's no limit to Tammy Faye and I either. 377 00:16:51,476 --> 00:16:53,145 We're soldiers in Christ. 378 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:55,814 We've been called to serve in a very real way. 379 00:16:55,847 --> 00:16:57,882 God smiles on a husband and wife. 380 00:16:57,915 --> 00:17:00,484 "As a young man marries a young woman, 381 00:17:00,517 --> 00:17:03,155 "so will your Builder marry you; 382 00:17:03,187 --> 00:17:06,757 "as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride, 383 00:17:06,790 --> 00:17:09,828 "so will your God rejoice in you." 384 00:17:09,860 --> 00:17:12,429 Isaiah 62:5. 385 00:17:12,463 --> 00:17:14,566 (Tammy, Jim, and Fred chuckling) 386 00:17:14,598 --> 00:17:16,367 JIM: It's something we do. 387 00:17:19,369 --> 00:17:20,638 (Tammy sniffles) 388 00:17:28,713 --> 00:17:31,450 Fred said that we could stay until the weather changes. 389 00:17:32,951 --> 00:17:34,353 Got some bubbles at the swap meet. 390 00:17:35,453 --> 00:17:36,555 (Jim chuckles) 391 00:17:39,389 --> 00:17:41,292 I'm sorry, Tam. 392 00:17:42,961 --> 00:17:45,197 I feel like I'm letting you down. 393 00:17:46,330 --> 00:17:49,200 She doesn't like me. 394 00:17:49,233 --> 00:17:51,703 - No, Jim. - No, she doesn't. 395 00:17:52,837 --> 00:17:55,206 Of course she likes you. 396 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,242 (Jim moaning and sighing) 397 00:17:58,443 --> 00:17:59,545 TAMMY: Oh. 398 00:18:04,281 --> 00:18:07,685 It makes Tammy sad to see you so sad. 399 00:18:07,719 --> 00:18:09,254 (both chuckling) 400 00:18:09,287 --> 00:18:10,622 How's there supposed to be bubbles 401 00:18:10,655 --> 00:18:13,325 if there isn't enough water to work up the bubbles? 402 00:18:13,357 --> 00:18:16,360 Oh, I can work up the bubbles, Jim. 403 00:18:16,394 --> 00:18:19,498 All I gotta do is dunk my hand. 404 00:18:21,665 --> 00:18:24,269 And I swirl... 405 00:18:26,303 --> 00:18:28,206 (Jim moans softly) 406 00:18:29,574 --> 00:18:31,543 - And swirl. - (moans) 407 00:18:32,676 --> 00:18:34,679 - (water lapping) - (Jim inhales sharply) 408 00:18:37,415 --> 00:18:38,817 - (moans) - Am I doing that all right? 409 00:18:38,849 --> 00:18:40,684 JIM: (softly) Uh-huh. 410 00:18:40,717 --> 00:18:42,486 (Tammy gasps) 411 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,356 (rock 'n' roll music playing on radio) 412 00:18:53,298 --> 00:18:55,634 (in puppet voice) Well, hello there, Tammy Faye. 413 00:18:57,402 --> 00:18:58,970 Hello, Mommy. 414 00:18:59,002 --> 00:19:00,972 What are you doing with those things? 415 00:19:01,004 --> 00:19:03,308 Well, we're gonna use these puppets as part of our sermon 416 00:19:03,340 --> 00:19:04,975 and show the kids how wonderful God is. 417 00:19:05,009 --> 00:19:06,711 And if we can get enough children to come, 418 00:19:06,743 --> 00:19:08,045 they'll bring their mothers and their fathers. 419 00:19:08,078 --> 00:19:10,382 And before you know it, we'll have our own church. 420 00:19:14,886 --> 00:19:17,856 (in puppet voice) Have you counted your blessings today, Tammy Faye? 421 00:19:17,888 --> 00:19:20,058 (in normal voice) No, not yet, Susie. 422 00:19:20,090 --> 00:19:23,761 Time to count your blessings, for they are plentiful. 423 00:19:23,794 --> 00:19:27,398 Okay, well, thank you for my husband. 424 00:19:27,432 --> 00:19:31,536 Oh, you're so welcome, Tammy. 425 00:19:31,569 --> 00:19:35,674 And thank you for Mother's understanding, even if she doesn't understand. 426 00:19:35,706 --> 00:19:38,276 Oh. (whispers) You're welcome. 427 00:19:39,911 --> 00:19:42,447 And thank you, God, for love. 428 00:19:44,115 --> 00:19:45,684 (chuckles) 429 00:19:45,716 --> 00:19:47,585 (car horn honking) 430 00:19:51,556 --> 00:19:52,824 (honking continues) 431 00:19:59,664 --> 00:20:00,699 Hmm. 432 00:20:00,732 --> 00:20:02,966 - (honks horn) - (music playing on stereo) 433 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,603 - (honking horn) - (Tammy gasping) 434 00:20:05,636 --> 00:20:07,338 (chuckles in awe) 435 00:20:07,371 --> 00:20:10,341 Jim! Whose car is this? 436 00:20:11,709 --> 00:20:13,378 No. 437 00:20:13,411 --> 00:20:16,414 - (gasps) - Get in. Get in. Come on. 438 00:20:16,446 --> 00:20:18,415 TAMMY: Okay. 439 00:20:18,449 --> 00:20:20,452 Roll that window up. I got the heat on. 440 00:20:21,618 --> 00:20:22,986 This fine vehicle 441 00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:25,990 with the leather interior and the chrome on the wheels 442 00:20:26,022 --> 00:20:29,794 is a gift from God for us to do His work. 443 00:20:30,595 --> 00:20:32,963 (Tammy grunts softly) 444 00:20:32,996 --> 00:20:35,632 (in Susie's voice) But how can we afford it, Jim Bakker? 445 00:20:35,665 --> 00:20:36,835 (Jim chuckling) 446 00:20:36,867 --> 00:20:38,669 Who is this? 447 00:20:38,703 --> 00:20:40,105 I'm Susie Moppet. 448 00:20:40,137 --> 00:20:43,707 Aren't you cute? Well, do you know about God, Susie? 449 00:20:43,741 --> 00:20:44,709 Oh, I do. 450 00:20:44,742 --> 00:20:48,078 Well, God has cancelled the claim of poverty 451 00:20:48,111 --> 00:20:49,947 and deprivation in our lives 452 00:20:49,981 --> 00:20:52,817 and He has placed all the powers of heaven 453 00:20:52,849 --> 00:20:55,086 and the First Bank of International Falls, 454 00:20:55,118 --> 00:20:57,655 Minnesota, at our disposal. 455 00:20:57,687 --> 00:20:59,690 Oh. (gasps) 456 00:21:03,694 --> 00:21:07,065 Oh, this is the nicest car I've ever seen, Jim. 457 00:21:07,098 --> 00:21:10,100 "Everything works for good for them that love God." 458 00:21:10,134 --> 00:21:12,136 Everything. 459 00:21:12,169 --> 00:21:15,406 But you have to have faith in Him 460 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,476 and in me and in us, 'cause if you don't, 461 00:21:18,509 --> 00:21:20,111 I don't know what I'm doing here. 462 00:21:20,144 --> 00:21:22,146 - Oh, I do, Jim. - You do? 463 00:21:24,482 --> 00:21:25,716 Does she, Susie? 464 00:21:26,884 --> 00:21:28,586 (in Susie's voice) Oh, she do, Jim! 465 00:21:28,618 --> 00:21:31,856 - She really, really do! - (laughing) 466 00:21:31,888 --> 00:21:33,958 (rock 'n' roll music playing) 467 00:21:39,062 --> 00:21:41,165 (both laughing) 468 00:21:41,199 --> 00:21:43,101 JIM: You sure... 469 00:21:43,134 --> 00:21:45,837 It's all right here. In Psalm 37:4. 470 00:21:45,869 --> 00:21:48,005 "Take delight in the Lord 471 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:52,076 "and He will give you your heart's desires." 472 00:21:52,108 --> 00:21:55,813 God starts turning those wheels in your life! 473 00:21:55,847 --> 00:21:57,080 SUSIE: You better believe it! 474 00:21:57,114 --> 00:21:59,851 - JIM: Oh, now who is this? - Oh, I'm Susie Moppet. 475 00:21:59,884 --> 00:22:01,586 Well, hello there, Susie Moppet. 476 00:22:01,618 --> 00:22:02,986 SUSIE: Hi! Nice to meet you! 477 00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:04,556 (both chuckling) 478 00:22:04,588 --> 00:22:06,791 - She jumped up. - (children laughing) 479 00:22:07,591 --> 00:22:09,726 SUSIE: ♫ Yes, Jesus loves me ♫ 480 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,529 ♫ Yes, Jesus loves me ♫ 481 00:22:11,561 --> 00:22:13,030 ♫ Yes, Jesus loves me ♫ 482 00:22:13,063 --> 00:22:16,934 BOTH: ♫ The Bible tells me so ♫ 483 00:22:16,967 --> 00:22:19,570 Hitch up your wagon to God. 484 00:22:19,604 --> 00:22:21,506 He's greater than any problem. 485 00:22:21,539 --> 00:22:22,906 Us Christians, we're just stuck in the mud 486 00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:24,909 like that old game. Remember that old kids' game? 487 00:22:24,942 --> 00:22:27,111 God wants us just to run free. 488 00:22:27,144 --> 00:22:28,847 (laughter) 489 00:22:28,879 --> 00:22:29,880 (indistinct chatter) 490 00:22:31,581 --> 00:22:33,584 Well, this is a fun song, boys and girls. 491 00:22:33,617 --> 00:22:35,086 So, hit it, Allie. 492 00:22:35,118 --> 00:22:36,487 (in deep voice) ♫ Jesus loves me ♫ 493 00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:39,491 ♫ This I know For the Bible tells me so ♫ 494 00:22:39,523 --> 00:22:41,592 (in Susie's voice) ♫ Yes, Jesus loves me ♫ 495 00:22:41,626 --> 00:22:44,029 ALLIE: ♫ The Bible tells me so ♫ (Jim lip-syncing) 496 00:22:47,231 --> 00:22:49,133 ANNOUNCER: You're watching Pat Robertson 497 00:22:49,165 --> 00:22:50,969 on the Christian Broadcasting Network. 498 00:22:51,001 --> 00:22:51,869 JIM: Come on. 499 00:22:51,903 --> 00:22:54,239 Season all your grain offerings... 500 00:22:54,271 --> 00:22:55,839 Oh, come on! 501 00:22:55,873 --> 00:22:58,142 - Okay, okay, okay. - ...with salt. 502 00:22:58,174 --> 00:23:01,178 Do not leave the salt of the covenant of your God 503 00:23:01,212 --> 00:23:03,146 out of your grain offerings. 504 00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:04,616 Add salt 505 00:23:05,183 --> 00:23:06,317 to all your offerings. 506 00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:10,088 You know, he's not terribly dynamic for a charismatic. 507 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,855 JIM: I know, but people just eat him up. 508 00:23:11,888 --> 00:23:14,525 ...focus on the foundation. 509 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:15,960 - Tammy, did you see that? - Hmm? 510 00:23:15,992 --> 00:23:18,530 Watch close. Every now and again, 511 00:23:18,562 --> 00:23:20,598 he glances up at the camera. 512 00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:23,700 It is upon Him that you can place your strong... 513 00:23:23,733 --> 00:23:25,035 - See that? - (gasps) You're right. 514 00:23:25,069 --> 00:23:28,940 He's talking right to you in the comfort of your living room. 515 00:23:28,973 --> 00:23:31,142 Well, if I could have watched a preacher 516 00:23:31,174 --> 00:23:34,546 on TV in my own home telling me about God, 517 00:23:34,578 --> 00:23:36,313 that would've made such a difference. 518 00:23:36,347 --> 00:23:38,916 JIM: Mm. Amen. 519 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:43,254 Especially from someone who preaches as good as you do, Jim. 520 00:23:43,287 --> 00:23:45,656 - (Jim chuckling) - (inhales deeply) 521 00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:47,292 - You think? - Oh, yeah. 522 00:23:47,325 --> 00:23:49,994 ...blow your home over? 523 00:23:50,027 --> 00:23:51,563 You know, we could do that. 524 00:23:53,097 --> 00:23:56,568 You're so much more handsome than he is. 525 00:23:57,768 --> 00:23:58,937 Keep calling. 526 00:23:58,970 --> 00:24:00,171 JIM: Gotta do my homework, baby. 527 00:24:00,203 --> 00:24:01,306 The numbers are on your screen. 528 00:24:01,338 --> 00:24:02,906 Mmm. Stop it. 529 00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:04,876 You're distracting me. 530 00:24:04,908 --> 00:24:07,344 ...voices of angels. I hope you enjoy them, 531 00:24:07,377 --> 00:24:09,347 and we have a variety... 532 00:24:09,379 --> 00:24:12,684 Well, we'll have to call the preacher down in Raleigh 533 00:24:12,716 --> 00:24:14,585 and let him know we got a better gig down here. 534 00:24:14,618 --> 00:24:16,320 Don't make him cross at you, Jim. 535 00:24:16,354 --> 00:24:18,189 We wanna have him want us back. 536 00:24:18,222 --> 00:24:19,824 JIM: Hold on. 537 00:24:19,857 --> 00:24:21,192 TAMMY: What? 538 00:24:21,224 --> 00:24:22,293 JIM: The car. 539 00:24:23,661 --> 00:24:24,763 I... 540 00:24:26,297 --> 00:24:28,199 I... I parked it here. 541 00:24:28,232 --> 00:24:30,868 Yep, you sure did. Uh-huh. 542 00:24:32,235 --> 00:24:33,637 Well, must've got stolen... 543 00:24:33,671 --> 00:24:34,772 What? 544 00:24:34,805 --> 00:24:36,942 JIM: (gasps) Oh. 545 00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:39,743 Oh, maybe it got towed. 546 00:24:39,777 --> 00:24:42,681 No, I know I made the payments, so... 547 00:24:44,014 --> 00:24:45,749 I think I made the payments. 548 00:24:45,782 --> 00:24:46,717 Oh, Jim. 549 00:24:46,751 --> 00:24:48,353 Maybe they didn't get the payments or maybe... 550 00:24:48,386 --> 00:24:49,620 Oh, no. 551 00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:51,155 I don't think I forgot. 552 00:24:51,187 --> 00:24:52,689 - I think I... - Okay. 553 00:24:52,723 --> 00:24:55,092 - Oh, Tammy, I don't know... - We need to pray. 554 00:24:55,126 --> 00:24:57,194 Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes. 555 00:24:57,228 --> 00:24:58,663 TAMMY: Oh, Lord, 556 00:24:58,695 --> 00:25:00,631 we are good soldiers. 557 00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:02,200 - We are here for good. - Oh, I'm sorry, Tammy. 558 00:25:02,232 --> 00:25:04,001 - We are here for your good. - I'm so, so, so sorry. 559 00:25:04,034 --> 00:25:05,169 And we ask that you shine your light... 560 00:25:05,203 --> 00:25:06,904 JIM: I shouldn't have put so much faith in that bank. 561 00:25:06,936 --> 00:25:08,639 God, I'm so sorry. 562 00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:09,874 Jesus, I'm so sorry. 563 00:25:09,906 --> 00:25:11,376 Tammy, I'm sorry. 564 00:25:11,408 --> 00:25:13,076 I'm sorry. 565 00:25:13,109 --> 00:25:14,713 - Jim. - (sighs) 566 00:25:15,745 --> 00:25:16,848 (car door closes) 567 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,315 MAN: Hey. 568 00:25:18,348 --> 00:25:20,917 Hey, I saw you preach last night. 569 00:25:20,951 --> 00:25:23,988 Those puppets of yours filled me. Deeply. 570 00:25:24,021 --> 00:25:25,289 TAMMY: Oh, thank you. (chuckling) 571 00:25:25,321 --> 00:25:26,657 JIM: Thank you. 572 00:25:26,691 --> 00:25:28,425 I'm staying in the room next door. 573 00:25:28,459 --> 00:25:30,828 - Can I help you with that? - (chuckles) No! 574 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:32,664 Well, that's very kind of you... 575 00:25:32,696 --> 00:25:33,831 (both chuckle dryly) 576 00:25:33,865 --> 00:25:36,934 ...but we don't rightly know where we're carrying it to. 577 00:25:36,966 --> 00:25:38,770 I work at a local television station 578 00:25:38,802 --> 00:25:40,938 with a minister by the name of Mr. Pat Robertson. 579 00:25:43,406 --> 00:25:44,975 (chuckles) 580 00:25:45,009 --> 00:25:47,011 He'd get a kick outta you two. 581 00:25:47,043 --> 00:25:49,013 (uplifting music playing) 582 00:25:51,415 --> 00:25:55,019 WOMAN 1: Yes, honey, and that's $25 a pledge. 583 00:25:55,051 --> 00:25:58,388 - (phones ringing) - WOMAN 2: CBN. 584 00:25:58,422 --> 00:26:00,357 Can I take your pledge? 585 00:26:01,892 --> 00:26:03,828 JIM: Well, I'm trying to focus. 586 00:26:05,428 --> 00:26:07,464 And you're just distracting me. 587 00:26:07,498 --> 00:26:09,934 You make me laugh. I was happy to find... 588 00:26:11,335 --> 00:26:12,804 (man chuckling) 589 00:26:12,837 --> 00:26:14,905 JIM: You're so funny, Graham. 590 00:26:14,938 --> 00:26:16,339 - Jim? - Hey, honey. 591 00:26:16,373 --> 00:26:18,209 Hi, I got a new outfit for the show. 592 00:26:18,242 --> 00:26:20,478 Oh, yes, I love it. 593 00:26:20,511 --> 00:26:22,413 - (clicks tongue) Jim. - JIM: Yeah? 594 00:26:22,445 --> 00:26:23,747 You didn't even look at me. 595 00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:25,249 JIM: Oh. 596 00:26:25,281 --> 00:26:26,917 (chuckling) I'm sorry, Tam. 597 00:26:26,951 --> 00:26:28,019 Have I ever told you 598 00:26:28,051 --> 00:26:31,923 that I am the luckiest man on the face of this planet? 599 00:26:31,955 --> 00:26:33,790 - (Tammy giggling) - Have I ever told you that? 600 00:26:33,824 --> 00:26:35,893 - Not today. - Not today, no? 601 00:26:35,925 --> 00:26:37,127 I'm going to tell you something, too, 602 00:26:37,161 --> 00:26:38,930 but I'm not gonna tell you right now. 603 00:26:38,963 --> 00:26:40,098 You're gonna have to wait. 604 00:26:40,130 --> 00:26:41,999 - No, no, no! (chuckles) - Yeah. 605 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,301 You just have to. 606 00:26:44,335 --> 00:26:46,170 And there he is. 607 00:26:46,203 --> 00:26:47,305 Every time I try and talk to him, 608 00:26:47,338 --> 00:26:49,473 he just keeps making excuses not to see me. 609 00:26:49,507 --> 00:26:53,311 Well, my surprise is gonna make you feel so much better. 610 00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:55,279 I'll be right back. 611 00:26:55,311 --> 00:26:56,446 No, Jim, 612 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,949 - the show's about to start. - JIM: Hey, Pat! 613 00:26:57,982 --> 00:27:00,018 - PAT: Jim! Hey! - JIM: You got a second? 614 00:27:00,984 --> 00:27:03,320 Have you given more thought to our show idea? 615 00:27:03,354 --> 00:27:04,222 MAN: All right, let me get you set up. 616 00:27:04,254 --> 00:27:05,922 PAT: Don't you already have your hands full 617 00:27:05,955 --> 00:27:07,224 with those puppets? 618 00:27:07,258 --> 00:27:09,761 Biggest earner we got. You stay focused. 619 00:27:09,793 --> 00:27:10,927 JIM: Well, yes, of course, 620 00:27:10,961 --> 00:27:13,530 but you shut down CBN at 10 p.m. 621 00:27:13,563 --> 00:27:15,165 Why not do a late-night show? 622 00:27:15,199 --> 00:27:17,068 Just kind of like Johnny Carson for Christians? 623 00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:19,302 No, Christians don't stay up that late. 624 00:27:19,336 --> 00:27:20,203 Oh, I do. 625 00:27:20,236 --> 00:27:22,172 - I don't sleep at all. - PAT: What about Tam? 626 00:27:22,205 --> 00:27:24,141 Well, she's gonna miss you at night. 627 00:27:24,174 --> 00:27:26,210 - JIM: Tammy loves the idea. - MAN: Tammy, we're on. 628 00:27:26,242 --> 00:27:29,280 MAN 2: Okay, we're live in five, four, three. 629 00:27:29,312 --> 00:27:31,315 (Pat and Jim continue chattering) 630 00:27:33,349 --> 00:27:35,019 Oh, hello, everybody! 631 00:27:35,051 --> 00:27:37,855 CHILDREN: Hi, Tammy! 632 00:27:37,887 --> 00:27:40,290 Well, Jim is a little bit late today, 633 00:27:40,324 --> 00:27:43,161 so, um, the theme of today's show, 634 00:27:43,194 --> 00:27:44,995 how about we make it all about the importance 635 00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:47,298 of being places on time, hmm? 636 00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:49,367 - (chuckling) Oh, no! Oh, no! - (children laughing) 637 00:27:49,399 --> 00:27:51,334 - I'm sorry, kids! - There he is. 638 00:27:51,367 --> 00:27:54,838 I'm sorry, Tammy! I'm sorry, everybody. 639 00:27:54,871 --> 00:27:57,207 I was just having a little, fun little chat 640 00:27:57,241 --> 00:28:00,011 with Uncle Pat just behind the barn. 641 00:28:00,043 --> 00:28:02,179 Oh, yeah, and what'd you two fellas get up to without me? 642 00:28:02,213 --> 00:28:05,183 Oh, well, it's actually something all you kids... 643 00:28:05,215 --> 00:28:06,250 - Mm-hmm. - ...are gonna wanna 644 00:28:06,282 --> 00:28:07,918 tell your parents about. 645 00:28:07,952 --> 00:28:12,323 It's a brand-new show just for them 646 00:28:12,356 --> 00:28:15,960 right here on CBN! 647 00:28:15,992 --> 00:28:17,395 - (children cheering) - Well, amen! 648 00:28:17,427 --> 00:28:20,497 JIM: And it's gonna be called The 700 Club. 649 00:28:20,530 --> 00:28:22,299 TAMMY: Now, isn't that happy news? 650 00:28:22,332 --> 00:28:25,268 Hallelujah! Yes! Yes! 651 00:28:25,301 --> 00:28:26,603 - SUSIE: Hi, kids. - Oh. 652 00:28:26,636 --> 00:28:30,107 - (children laughing) - ALL: Hi, Susie Moppet. 653 00:28:30,139 --> 00:28:32,944 Hi, Jim. Today's a happy day. 654 00:28:32,976 --> 00:28:34,511 Isn't it, kids? And you know why, Jim? 655 00:28:34,544 --> 00:28:36,313 (chuckles) Why, Susie? 656 00:28:36,347 --> 00:28:39,383 Well, you're gonna have a new show, kids. 657 00:28:39,415 --> 00:28:41,219 - JIM: Yes. - (all chuckle) 658 00:28:41,251 --> 00:28:44,922 SUSIE: And Jim is gonna have 659 00:28:44,954 --> 00:28:46,424 a baby. 660 00:28:46,456 --> 00:28:47,858 - (children exclaim) - (Jim chuckles lightly) 661 00:28:47,892 --> 00:28:49,626 Look at Tammy, she's right behind you. 662 00:28:49,659 --> 00:28:51,528 (applause) 663 00:28:53,230 --> 00:28:55,599 We're gonna have a baby? 664 00:28:55,633 --> 00:28:58,269 Isn't the world just full of blessings, Jim? 665 00:28:58,301 --> 00:29:00,303 - (chuckling) - Huh? 666 00:29:00,337 --> 00:29:02,205 - (phone ringing) - That's right, folks! 667 00:29:02,239 --> 00:29:03,975 (both chuckling) 668 00:29:05,442 --> 00:29:07,377 We're gonna have a baby! 669 00:29:07,411 --> 00:29:08,946 - (children cheering) - Oh-ho-ho! 670 00:29:08,979 --> 00:29:12,049 JIM: It's not a drag to be saved. 671 00:29:12,081 --> 00:29:13,984 It's not a boring thing. 672 00:29:14,018 --> 00:29:16,921 That's religion. See, you got 'em mixed up. 673 00:29:16,953 --> 00:29:19,322 Religion is boring and dull, 674 00:29:19,356 --> 00:29:22,593 - but Jesus is life. - (applause) 675 00:29:22,626 --> 00:29:25,363 Now, my next guest is a new friend to The 700 Club, 676 00:29:25,396 --> 00:29:29,500 and I can smell his chicken, yes. (laughing) 677 00:29:29,532 --> 00:29:34,170 The Colonel, Colonel Sanders in The 700 Club! 678 00:29:34,203 --> 00:29:36,540 - (rock 'n' roll music playing) - (cheers and applause) 679 00:29:41,311 --> 00:29:45,515 Oh, the crowd appreciates you. I think they like you. 680 00:29:45,549 --> 00:29:47,417 I think they're wanting some of that chicken. 681 00:29:47,451 --> 00:29:48,920 JIM: I guess the housewives of America 682 00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:50,221 are thanking you for fixing dinner... 683 00:29:50,253 --> 00:29:52,055 (phone ringing) 684 00:29:53,424 --> 00:29:54,525 Hello. 685 00:29:54,558 --> 00:29:56,193 TAMMY: Oh, hi, Mom. 686 00:29:56,225 --> 00:29:59,496 Do you know what time it is? Why are you calling so late? 687 00:29:59,530 --> 00:30:02,399 Well, Jim says that I need to rest for my pregnancy, 688 00:30:02,433 --> 00:30:06,037 but, oh, you know me. I can't rest, 689 00:30:06,069 --> 00:30:08,239 so thought I'd call my mother to keep me company. 690 00:30:08,271 --> 00:30:10,206 I never got a rest. 691 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,410 Oh, I miss working, though. You know? 692 00:30:12,443 --> 00:30:15,346 It's so lonesome at home all by myself. 693 00:30:15,378 --> 00:30:18,014 Wow! Oh, wow! 694 00:30:18,048 --> 00:30:19,349 And he barely touches me anymore. 695 00:30:19,383 --> 00:30:23,254 And when he does, it's not enthusiastic. 696 00:30:23,287 --> 00:30:26,958 Well, it's up to the wife to make herself desirable for her husband. 697 00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:29,727 I do that. Oh, I do. 698 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,096 He's just really busy. 699 00:30:32,128 --> 00:30:33,664 - JIM: Really? - (laughter on TV) 700 00:30:33,696 --> 00:30:36,066 So, are you watching Jim's show? 701 00:30:36,099 --> 00:30:38,269 That new talk show of his is on. 702 00:30:38,301 --> 00:30:39,636 Serving God don't feel like 703 00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:41,638 it should be a money-making opportunity. 704 00:30:41,672 --> 00:30:43,473 TAMMY: Yeah. 705 00:30:43,507 --> 00:30:46,077 You know, I wanna do what he's doing. 706 00:30:46,109 --> 00:30:48,678 And I wanna sing and not in a puppet voice. 707 00:30:48,712 --> 00:30:51,449 And I wanna talk about issues that affect people's daily lives. 708 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:53,184 And there's so much that we don't talk about. 709 00:30:53,216 --> 00:30:54,284 There's so many secrets, 710 00:30:54,318 --> 00:30:58,189 and, you know, everyone says I'm supposed to be tired, 711 00:30:58,222 --> 00:31:00,290 but I just wanna love people. 712 00:31:00,324 --> 00:31:01,692 You got me out of bed 713 00:31:01,724 --> 00:31:03,526 to talk to me about how you're not tired. 714 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,429 Does that make sense to you? 715 00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:09,500 No. 716 00:31:09,532 --> 00:31:12,770 - Sorry. - Night night, Tam. Take care. 717 00:31:12,802 --> 00:31:15,039 TAMMY: Good night, Mom. I love you. 718 00:31:15,071 --> 00:31:16,173 Bye. 719 00:31:16,205 --> 00:31:17,474 Okay, bye-bye. 720 00:31:20,610 --> 00:31:21,611 FRED: Who was it? 721 00:31:24,548 --> 00:31:25,649 RACHEL: That was Tam. 722 00:31:25,682 --> 00:31:26,817 FRED: How is she? 723 00:31:26,849 --> 00:31:28,718 RACHEL: Well, it seems like she's having some trouble 724 00:31:28,751 --> 00:31:30,387 with the pregnancy. What'd I miss? 725 00:31:30,421 --> 00:31:31,522 JIM: ...a second childhood. 726 00:31:31,555 --> 00:31:33,057 FRED: I don't know. The sound was off. 727 00:31:33,089 --> 00:31:34,457 You love kids, don't you? 728 00:31:34,491 --> 00:31:36,227 - You love children. - COLONEL SANDERS: I do. 729 00:31:36,260 --> 00:31:39,696 I have five grandchildren and 14 great-grandchildren. 730 00:31:39,730 --> 00:31:42,700 - Wow! - (applause) 731 00:31:42,732 --> 00:31:44,668 I bet they're spoiled. Do you spoil them? 732 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:52,076 (sighs) 733 00:31:53,077 --> 00:31:55,078 Oh, dear Lord God. 734 00:31:57,580 --> 00:32:01,251 What doors are you gonna open up for me to walk through? 735 00:32:04,454 --> 00:32:06,589 What can I do for happiness? 736 00:32:06,623 --> 00:32:08,092 (sighs) 737 00:32:09,626 --> 00:32:11,729 Oh, I wanna get back on TV. 738 00:32:14,197 --> 00:32:16,501 I'm going back to work for you. 739 00:32:18,635 --> 00:32:20,637 (traditional pop music playing) 740 00:32:29,413 --> 00:32:31,415 - (music continues) - (indistinct chatter) 741 00:32:36,619 --> 00:32:38,121 Well... 742 00:32:39,423 --> 00:32:41,258 What do you think he pays himself? 743 00:32:41,290 --> 00:32:42,292 Oh. (sighs) 744 00:32:44,861 --> 00:32:46,296 I should have worn the other dress. 745 00:32:46,329 --> 00:32:47,799 JIM: You look fine, honey. 746 00:32:49,299 --> 00:32:50,468 Oh. 747 00:32:50,501 --> 00:32:51,569 JIM: There he is. 748 00:32:51,601 --> 00:32:53,870 TAMMY: Dede's wearing a mink. That's a real mink! 749 00:32:53,904 --> 00:32:55,306 And it's warm outside. 750 00:32:55,338 --> 00:32:57,741 You know, we... we paid for all this, Tammy. 751 00:32:57,773 --> 00:33:01,645 You and me, from the swimming pool to the hot tub, 752 00:33:01,677 --> 00:33:03,848 and Dede's dead animal. We paid for it. 753 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,816 Well, the fruit isn't dropping our way, that's for sure. 754 00:33:06,849 --> 00:33:09,654 - (polite chuckle) - My little stars! 755 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,722 Hello. Hey, Pat! 756 00:33:11,754 --> 00:33:13,123 - What a beautiful place! - How are you? 757 00:33:13,156 --> 00:33:15,225 - Oh, thank you, thank you! - Paradise! 758 00:33:15,259 --> 00:33:18,328 Look at that little baby, too. Positively a chipmunk. 759 00:33:18,361 --> 00:33:19,562 Thanks. 760 00:33:19,596 --> 00:33:20,763 Hey, that's a nice coat. 761 00:33:20,797 --> 00:33:21,866 Oh, thank you, dear. 762 00:33:21,898 --> 00:33:23,266 Must be hot though. 763 00:33:23,299 --> 00:33:24,601 No, not in the least. 764 00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:26,270 Oh. (chuckling) 765 00:33:26,302 --> 00:33:27,637 PAT: Hey, Jim, I've been thinking. 766 00:33:27,671 --> 00:33:29,640 - JIM: Mm-hmm? - Have you given any thought 767 00:33:29,673 --> 00:33:32,309 to taking some time off to be with your family? 768 00:33:32,976 --> 00:33:34,711 These times do not come back. 769 00:33:34,744 --> 00:33:35,779 - No. - Trust me, 770 00:33:35,811 --> 00:33:37,313 they are precious, precious times. 771 00:33:37,347 --> 00:33:38,648 - PAT: No, sir. - JIM: Mm. 772 00:33:38,682 --> 00:33:42,520 I can do The 700 Club for a time. 773 00:33:42,552 --> 00:33:46,422 We can air reruns of Jim and Tammy for a few weeks. 774 00:33:46,455 --> 00:33:48,658 - TAMMY: Hmm. - A couple of months even. 775 00:33:48,692 --> 00:33:50,394 What do you think? (sniffles) 776 00:33:51,895 --> 00:33:54,565 It's very... It's very kind of you, Uncle Pat. 777 00:33:54,598 --> 00:33:55,965 Thank you. 778 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,737 But, you know, I got that bond going with my audience, you know? 779 00:33:59,770 --> 00:34:00,704 We're on the up-and-up. 780 00:34:00,738 --> 00:34:03,207 I couldn't think of abandoning them right now. 781 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,342 - Well, we'll think about it. - Oh, Pat, Pat, Pat! 782 00:34:05,375 --> 00:34:06,710 - PAT: Oh. - He came. 783 00:34:06,742 --> 00:34:08,913 TAMMY: (gasps) Oh, my goodness! 784 00:34:08,945 --> 00:34:11,148 (traditional pop music playing) 785 00:34:14,284 --> 00:34:15,452 - PAT: Hello! Hello! - Honey. 786 00:34:15,485 --> 00:34:16,620 - I see, I see him. - Go say hi! 787 00:34:16,652 --> 00:34:18,288 I know, I see him. We'll sit down, we'll sit down. 788 00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:19,190 PAT: Was your drive in okay? 789 00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:20,791 - Jim, go say hi! - I don't wanna say hi. 790 00:34:20,824 --> 00:34:22,226 I'm fine. We'll say hi later. 791 00:34:22,259 --> 00:34:24,261 PAT: You remember Jim and Tammy Faye? 792 00:34:24,293 --> 00:34:26,462 - Hey, now, the puppet people! - (both chuckling) 793 00:34:26,496 --> 00:34:28,699 Oh, my goodness, just... 794 00:34:28,732 --> 00:34:30,534 What a pleasure, Mr. Falwell. 795 00:34:30,567 --> 00:34:32,335 A pleasure and a blessing. 796 00:34:32,369 --> 00:34:35,706 You are truly an inspiration to me. It's an honor. 797 00:34:35,739 --> 00:34:37,407 Nice to meet you, Jerry. I'm Tammy. 798 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,242 JIM: Tammy Faye and this is Sissy. 799 00:34:39,275 --> 00:34:40,543 - (Tammy laughing) - Aren't the three of you 800 00:34:40,576 --> 00:34:41,611 as cute as a button? 801 00:34:41,645 --> 00:34:43,713 - TAMMY: Aw! - PAT: Yes, sir! 802 00:34:43,746 --> 00:34:45,215 JERRY: It's a moral issue... 803 00:34:46,616 --> 00:34:47,750 (indistinct chatter) 804 00:34:47,784 --> 00:34:49,686 ...feminist revolution. 805 00:34:50,587 --> 00:34:52,190 (indistinct chatter) 806 00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:56,659 DEDE: You know it was fate. 807 00:34:56,692 --> 00:34:57,727 It was when my youngest 808 00:34:57,761 --> 00:34:59,396 was being baptized, 809 00:34:59,429 --> 00:35:01,264 she was such a little-bitty thing 810 00:35:01,297 --> 00:35:02,866 that we had to put a little milk crate 811 00:35:02,898 --> 00:35:05,402 in the baptismal for her to stand on. 812 00:35:06,369 --> 00:35:08,873 Come on, let's go see Daddy. 813 00:35:13,543 --> 00:35:14,878 (panting) Hi! 814 00:35:14,911 --> 00:35:16,681 Could I sit down? (laughs) 815 00:35:17,813 --> 00:35:19,449 I have the baby, you know. 816 00:35:19,483 --> 00:35:21,318 It's kinda hard to eat and, you know... 817 00:35:21,351 --> 00:35:22,853 JIM: Sure. Um, yeah. 818 00:35:22,886 --> 00:35:25,755 Using the fork and the knife at the same time 819 00:35:25,788 --> 00:35:27,290 and, you know, get the food to my mouth. 820 00:35:27,324 --> 00:35:28,459 Well, why don't... 821 00:35:28,491 --> 00:35:29,592 - I think... - And I wanna hear 822 00:35:29,625 --> 00:35:30,960 all this interesting stuff. 823 00:35:30,994 --> 00:35:32,262 - PAT: Yeah, but... - Honey... 824 00:35:32,295 --> 00:35:33,396 TAMMY: Well, I'll be right back. 825 00:35:33,429 --> 00:35:34,831 - Tam. - Oh. 826 00:35:34,864 --> 00:35:36,433 (chuckles dryly) 827 00:35:36,465 --> 00:35:37,835 She's a firecracker, Jim. 828 00:35:37,867 --> 00:35:39,335 (laughter) 829 00:35:39,369 --> 00:35:41,572 (chair dragging and knocking loudly) 830 00:35:43,473 --> 00:35:44,741 - Jim. - Yes. 831 00:35:44,775 --> 00:35:45,843 Come on. 832 00:35:45,875 --> 00:35:47,544 - SWAGGART: Okay. - (both chuckling) 833 00:35:49,413 --> 00:35:50,748 SWAGGART: Okay. 834 00:35:51,514 --> 00:35:52,915 Well, very nice. 835 00:35:52,949 --> 00:35:54,552 (sighs) As you were saying, Jerry? 836 00:35:55,085 --> 00:35:56,587 (Tammy chuckles) 837 00:35:56,619 --> 00:35:58,788 Let's call me Reverend Falwell. 838 00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:00,691 Of course. 839 00:36:02,425 --> 00:36:04,661 JERRY: Young people today are raised on television. 840 00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:06,730 It's taught them an immorality. 841 00:36:06,762 --> 00:36:11,768 But now, we are on television. 842 00:36:11,802 --> 00:36:12,836 (Pat chuckles) 843 00:36:12,869 --> 00:36:15,039 When I created The 700 Club, 844 00:36:15,072 --> 00:36:18,075 all I needed was 700 people to keep us going. 845 00:36:18,108 --> 00:36:21,979 A year later, we're in six markets and growin'. 846 00:36:22,012 --> 00:36:26,617 Hundreds of thousands of folks are hearin' the word. 847 00:36:26,650 --> 00:36:28,751 Now, God has a voice in this fight. 848 00:36:28,784 --> 00:36:29,953 - SWAGGART: Amen. - PAT: Mm-hmm. 849 00:36:29,985 --> 00:36:31,955 Mm. Who's He fighting? 850 00:36:32,588 --> 00:36:34,458 JERRY: The liberal agenda. 851 00:36:34,491 --> 00:36:36,793 The feminist agenda. 852 00:36:36,826 --> 00:36:38,529 Homosexual agenda. 853 00:36:38,561 --> 00:36:41,531 It's time for a reversal of these trends. 854 00:36:41,565 --> 00:36:44,568 The only hope's in saving America. 855 00:36:44,601 --> 00:36:45,736 SWAGGART: Get back to the good old days. 856 00:36:45,768 --> 00:36:46,971 - JIM: Mm. Mm. - (Tammy chuckles) 857 00:36:47,570 --> 00:36:50,808 Well, I love our country, 858 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,043 but America is for them, too. 859 00:36:53,076 --> 00:36:55,378 - Uh... Well... - (Tammy chuckles) 860 00:36:55,411 --> 00:36:56,446 - Oh, Tam? - Mm? 861 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,780 Will you mind getting me another Coke? 862 00:36:57,813 --> 00:36:58,982 Jim, let your wife speak. 863 00:37:00,516 --> 00:37:03,453 Debate. I think it gets us all back to unity. 864 00:37:03,487 --> 00:37:06,389 Oh, I don't want to debate you, Jerry. I love you. 865 00:37:06,422 --> 00:37:08,458 - I love all of you guys. - Reverend Falwell. 866 00:37:09,425 --> 00:37:10,460 PAT: Um... 867 00:37:10,494 --> 00:37:12,429 We love you, too, Tammy Faye. 868 00:37:12,462 --> 00:37:13,797 MAN: Yes, we do. 869 00:37:15,065 --> 00:37:16,433 JERRY: God as my witness, 870 00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:21,137 I made a pledge to continue to expose the sins in this country. 871 00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:25,041 The Bible explicitly forbids homosexuality. 872 00:37:25,074 --> 00:37:26,843 There's no gray area. 873 00:37:27,476 --> 00:37:28,677 TAMMY: Mm. 874 00:37:28,712 --> 00:37:32,081 Well, you know, I don't think of them as homosexuals. 875 00:37:32,114 --> 00:37:34,984 I just think of them as other human beings that I love. 876 00:37:35,018 --> 00:37:38,956 You know, we're all just people made out of the same old dirt. 877 00:37:38,989 --> 00:37:40,991 And God didn't make any junk. 878 00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,394 Right, honey? 879 00:37:43,427 --> 00:37:44,628 (Tammy chuckles) 880 00:37:46,896 --> 00:37:48,030 - JIM: Tammy? - Hmm? 881 00:37:48,063 --> 00:37:49,532 (baby sissy cooing) 882 00:37:49,565 --> 00:37:50,800 - Tam. - Hmm? 883 00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:52,902 You can't... What are you doing? 884 00:37:52,936 --> 00:37:54,405 TAMMY: I'm changing the baby, honey. 885 00:37:54,438 --> 00:37:57,641 JIM: You can't talk to him like that. 886 00:37:57,674 --> 00:38:00,911 That's the big boss man. We need him to like us. 887 00:38:00,944 --> 00:38:02,779 - Jim. - No, Tammy. 888 00:38:02,813 --> 00:38:06,049 Look, listen to me. I'm trying to build something here. 889 00:38:06,081 --> 00:38:07,583 I'm not messing around. 890 00:38:07,616 --> 00:38:10,787 God told me He wants me to have what Pat has. 891 00:38:10,820 --> 00:38:14,023 But if you keep acting like that, if you keep talking to Falwell that way, 892 00:38:14,056 --> 00:38:15,525 I'm not gonna ever get there. 893 00:38:15,558 --> 00:38:17,894 Well, God's been talking to me, too, you know, Jim? 894 00:38:17,927 --> 00:38:19,596 And He said that I gotta speak up. 895 00:38:20,764 --> 00:38:22,499 So, here goes. 896 00:38:22,532 --> 00:38:25,068 You can't leave me at home all alone, 897 00:38:25,101 --> 00:38:29,106 feeling unloved, and useless. 898 00:38:29,139 --> 00:38:32,910 And He said that I belong on TV just as much as you do. 899 00:38:32,942 --> 00:38:35,678 And that I should sing and I should be funny. 900 00:38:35,712 --> 00:38:38,614 And I should talk about real things for grown-ups. 901 00:38:38,648 --> 00:38:40,851 Just, you know, just the way you do. 902 00:38:42,886 --> 00:38:44,887 And... 903 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,792 He says I'm not gonna tell people who's going to Hell, Jim. 904 00:38:50,025 --> 00:38:52,462 We're in the business of healing people. 905 00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:56,500 Yes. 906 00:38:58,034 --> 00:39:00,871 Jerry Falwell's a powerful man, Tammy Faye. 907 00:39:03,172 --> 00:39:05,041 Jim Bakker 908 00:39:06,275 --> 00:39:09,579 is a powerful man. 909 00:39:09,612 --> 00:39:11,748 - Jim Bakker. - (exhales deeply) 910 00:39:13,049 --> 00:39:15,219 (inhales sharply, stomps) 911 00:39:15,251 --> 00:39:18,956 Yes, he is, Tammy Faye Bakker. 912 00:39:18,989 --> 00:39:20,791 (inhales deeply) 913 00:39:20,824 --> 00:39:24,528 I'm so, so sorry. I forgot my own strength... 914 00:39:25,561 --> 00:39:28,030 and my manly duties. 915 00:39:28,063 --> 00:39:29,899 It's okay. (chuckles) 916 00:39:31,101 --> 00:39:33,036 You know, we built CBN in four years 917 00:39:33,069 --> 00:39:35,538 and we could build our own in half that. 918 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,041 Yes, I think we can. 919 00:39:39,675 --> 00:39:41,645 - Oh, yeah, we can. - (laughs) 920 00:39:42,746 --> 00:39:45,949 - Yes. - (chuckling) 921 00:39:45,982 --> 00:39:49,786 Jim Bakker is gonna be a builder for Christ. 922 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,556 Oh, yes, he will. 923 00:39:52,588 --> 00:39:55,692 - (chuckling) - And Tammy Faye Bakker 924 00:39:55,724 --> 00:40:00,530 is gonna sing her gospel all around the world. 925 00:40:00,563 --> 00:40:02,599 We are gonna spread His word. 926 00:40:03,032 --> 00:40:04,067 Oh, my! 927 00:40:04,099 --> 00:40:05,835 (both laughing) 928 00:40:06,603 --> 00:40:07,804 (TV music playing) 929 00:40:07,837 --> 00:40:09,540 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from Praise The Lord studios 930 00:40:09,572 --> 00:40:11,040 in Charlotte, North Carolina, 931 00:40:11,074 --> 00:40:14,878 broadcasting live across this great nation. 932 00:40:14,911 --> 00:40:15,945 Praise The Lord television network 933 00:40:15,978 --> 00:40:19,215 presents our five-year anniversary Christmas special, 934 00:40:19,248 --> 00:40:21,817 the Jim and Tammy Show! 935 00:40:21,851 --> 00:40:22,953 TAMMY,SINGERS: ♫ Ooh we're blest ♫ 936 00:40:24,353 --> 00:40:27,056 ♫ We are blest ♫ 937 00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:29,726 ♫ Yes, we've got shelter, clothing and strength ♫ 938 00:40:29,759 --> 00:40:32,829 ♫ We are blest ♫ 939 00:40:32,862 --> 00:40:35,065 ♫ We're blest, we're blest, we're blest ♫ 940 00:40:35,098 --> 00:40:38,101 ♫ We are blest ♫ 941 00:40:38,134 --> 00:40:43,340 ♫ We don't deserve it but yet we are blest ♫ 942 00:40:43,373 --> 00:40:46,944 ♫ We don't deserve it but yet we are blest ♫ 943 00:40:46,976 --> 00:40:48,612 - (applause) - Hi, everybody! 944 00:40:50,246 --> 00:40:53,349 Nice to see you. Hi! How are you? 945 00:40:53,382 --> 00:40:55,751 Look at all of you! Wow! 946 00:40:55,784 --> 00:40:57,087 My land! 947 00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,755 What a beautiful audience! Hi, how are you doing? 948 00:40:59,788 --> 00:41:00,991 God has worked miracles! 949 00:41:01,023 --> 00:41:03,226 I want miracles for all of us! 950 00:41:03,259 --> 00:41:04,962 We've got a marvelous show for you today. 951 00:41:04,994 --> 00:41:06,663 Little Richard is here! 952 00:41:06,695 --> 00:41:08,098 God loves you. 953 00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:09,699 He really does! 954 00:41:09,733 --> 00:41:12,669 REPORTER: They are doing God's work teaching skills to the homeless. 955 00:41:12,701 --> 00:41:14,170 Providing housing for unwed mothers 956 00:41:14,204 --> 00:41:15,739 and handicapped children. 957 00:41:15,771 --> 00:41:17,174 (song continues playing) 958 00:41:21,878 --> 00:41:24,381 PTL brings the word of God and Jesus Christ 959 00:41:24,413 --> 00:41:25,815 - to the whole world. - That's it. 960 00:41:25,849 --> 00:41:27,084 God bless you, honey. 961 00:41:27,116 --> 00:41:28,184 It's a powerful thing! 962 00:41:34,824 --> 00:41:36,693 REPORTER 2: Five years ago, the PTL network 963 00:41:36,726 --> 00:41:39,896 was little more than a prayer and a dream. 964 00:41:39,929 --> 00:41:42,299 Today, the nation's fourth largest network. 965 00:41:42,331 --> 00:41:47,770 ♫ We don't deserve it but yet we are blest ♫ 966 00:41:47,804 --> 00:41:51,909 ♫ We don't deserve it but yet we are blest ♫ 967 00:41:52,909 --> 00:41:54,344 Yes, people. We truly are blessed 968 00:41:54,376 --> 00:41:56,413 because there is no condemnation for them 969 00:41:56,445 --> 00:41:58,148 which are in Jesus Christ. 970 00:41:58,181 --> 00:42:01,351 Therefore, if God is for us, who could be against us? 971 00:42:01,384 --> 00:42:03,853 Blessed are they that hunger and thirst for His glory, 972 00:42:03,887 --> 00:42:06,056 for they shall be filled. 973 00:42:06,088 --> 00:42:09,092 Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God. 974 00:42:09,125 --> 00:42:13,195 We have gathered us into His kingdom and made us priests of God his Father. 975 00:42:13,228 --> 00:42:17,900 Give unto Him everlasting glory, He rules forever! Amen! 976 00:42:17,933 --> 00:42:19,769 - (music ends) - Amen! 977 00:42:19,802 --> 00:42:21,137 Wow! 978 00:42:24,007 --> 00:42:25,409 My land! 979 00:42:29,378 --> 00:42:31,748 Tammy Faye, ladies and gentlemen, 980 00:42:31,780 --> 00:42:33,884 Tammy Faye Bakker! 981 00:42:33,916 --> 00:42:38,255 And it's the happiest time of the year, it's Christmas! 982 00:42:38,288 --> 00:42:41,190 And remember, never forget it. 983 00:42:41,224 --> 00:42:44,394 You know what I'm gonna say. God loves you. 984 00:42:44,427 --> 00:42:46,697 He really, really, really does. 985 00:42:46,730 --> 00:42:48,465 Merry Christmas, everyone! 986 00:42:48,498 --> 00:42:51,233 - Merry Christmas! - Bye-bye, everybody! 987 00:42:51,266 --> 00:42:53,136 I'm Fletcher, Jim's right-hand man. 988 00:42:53,168 --> 00:42:55,739 Jim and Tammy are gonna be so happy to see you. 989 00:42:55,771 --> 00:42:58,474 I can't believe you've never made it down to the studios before. 990 00:42:58,507 --> 00:43:01,410 Well, the Carolinas are a long way from International Falls. 991 00:43:01,444 --> 00:43:03,913 Have you always been involved with the church, Mr. Fletcher? 992 00:43:03,947 --> 00:43:05,482 I've done all sorts of things. 993 00:43:05,514 --> 00:43:07,951 Once, I was even a party clown. 994 00:43:07,983 --> 00:43:09,319 You don't believe me, but it's true. 995 00:43:09,351 --> 00:43:11,020 Come, this way. Show's about to start. 996 00:43:11,054 --> 00:43:12,088 FRED: Party clown? 997 00:43:12,121 --> 00:43:13,190 We'll get you set up. 998 00:43:13,223 --> 00:43:15,891 MAN: But the penile implant of the inflatable type 999 00:43:15,925 --> 00:43:17,494 is the one that we see here. 1000 00:43:17,527 --> 00:43:19,162 Mm-hmm. And this is the newest one? 1001 00:43:19,195 --> 00:43:22,232 Well, it is. And when the man wants to become erect, 1002 00:43:23,065 --> 00:43:24,500 he simply reaches down 1003 00:43:24,534 --> 00:43:28,105 and he squeezes that several times 1004 00:43:28,137 --> 00:43:29,438 and the man becomes firm. 1005 00:43:29,471 --> 00:43:31,841 (laughs) I think that's fantastic. 1006 00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:33,009 (women gasping) 1007 00:43:33,041 --> 00:43:35,212 - Go ahead, audience, go ahead. - (applause) 1008 00:43:37,447 --> 00:43:39,349 Well, you know something else that's fantastic? 1009 00:43:39,382 --> 00:43:41,384 I'm so excited I'm just beside myself. 1010 00:43:41,416 --> 00:43:43,886 I would like to introduce you 1011 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,090 to my mother and her husband, 1012 00:43:47,123 --> 00:43:49,192 Rachel and Fred Grover. 1013 00:43:49,224 --> 00:43:51,828 Stand up, everybody, stand up. 1014 00:43:51,860 --> 00:43:52,862 Come on. Stand up, 1015 00:43:52,895 --> 00:43:54,764 that deserves a big ol' round of applause. 1016 00:43:57,032 --> 00:43:58,469 Stand up, Mom. 1017 00:44:04,507 --> 00:44:05,976 TAMMY: Thank you. 1018 00:44:06,009 --> 00:44:07,844 So, here's the house. 1019 00:44:07,876 --> 00:44:10,813 Isn't it beautiful? I just think it's so neat. 1020 00:44:10,846 --> 00:44:14,016 Our ministry's building lots of houses on the PTL property. 1021 00:44:14,050 --> 00:44:16,787 There's one with pregnant teens and one for kids with needs. 1022 00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:18,355 It's all part of our mission to help people. 1023 00:44:18,387 --> 00:44:20,322 FRED: This is just wonderful, honey. 1024 00:44:20,355 --> 00:44:21,891 Yeah, I'm so glad you guys are here. 1025 00:44:21,925 --> 00:44:23,426 I got you set up in the guest room 1026 00:44:23,458 --> 00:44:26,529 and you can stay there until your new house is ready. 1027 00:44:26,563 --> 00:44:29,166 Come on. Let me give you a tour. 1028 00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:33,904 This is the relaxation room. (chuckling) 1029 00:44:33,936 --> 00:44:36,973 Oh, now that you're here, I'm just gonna bug you any time I want to. 1030 00:44:37,005 --> 00:44:39,809 Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake you up any hour of the night. 1031 00:44:39,842 --> 00:44:42,279 I'm just so glad to have you here in the PTL property with me, Mom. 1032 00:44:42,945 --> 00:44:43,913 (sighs) 1033 00:44:43,947 --> 00:44:46,916 All those people looking at me and clapping. 1034 00:44:46,949 --> 00:44:48,085 Oh, no. 1035 00:44:48,117 --> 00:44:50,420 RACHEL: I don't appreciate being bamboozled like that. 1036 00:44:50,453 --> 00:44:52,322 It's love, Mom. 1037 00:44:52,355 --> 00:44:54,057 Oh, yeah, that's God's love. 1038 00:44:54,090 --> 00:44:56,927 Every day, I have rapture. 1039 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,128 RACHEL: Rapture? 1040 00:44:58,161 --> 00:45:01,831 You just spent an hour talking about pumping penises. 1041 00:45:01,864 --> 00:45:03,000 (Fred snickers) 1042 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,468 Well, these things happen to people 1043 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,504 and I'm just being honest about the way that life is. 1044 00:45:08,538 --> 00:45:11,507 And I'm providing solutions 1045 00:45:11,541 --> 00:45:13,376 to make marriages better. 1046 00:45:13,409 --> 00:45:15,244 - Tam, where's the privy? - On the left. 1047 00:45:15,277 --> 00:45:16,413 Okay. 1048 00:45:16,445 --> 00:45:18,348 Sit down, Mom. 1049 00:45:18,380 --> 00:45:20,449 Who paid for this house, Tammy? 1050 00:45:20,483 --> 00:45:22,118 Well, the ministry makes lots of houses. 1051 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:23,986 We've got one for unwed mothers. 1052 00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,387 (gasps) Wait till you see Kevin's House. 1053 00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:28,058 Oh, yeah, that one's for kids with special needs. 1054 00:45:28,090 --> 00:45:30,960 And it's named after a sweet little boy named Kevin. 1055 00:45:30,994 --> 00:45:32,162 Oh, he's 13 years old 1056 00:45:32,195 --> 00:45:35,432 and he is the sweetest, tiniest little thing you ever saw. 1057 00:45:35,465 --> 00:45:37,934 His hands are attached to his shoulders 1058 00:45:37,967 --> 00:45:39,636 and he has no arms at all. 1059 00:45:39,668 --> 00:45:41,038 Bless his little heart. 1060 00:45:41,704 --> 00:45:43,440 Let me show you to your room. 1061 00:45:46,608 --> 00:45:48,344 Okay, everyone, let's see if I can do this. 1062 00:45:48,378 --> 00:45:51,047 So, now, you're gonna go in a circle. (laughs) 1063 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:54,183 Oh, mine looks a little bit like it had an explosion. 1064 00:45:54,217 --> 00:45:55,352 - (audience laughs) - You know what I'm gonna do? 1065 00:45:55,384 --> 00:45:58,320 'Cause normally when I use frosting, it's not this thick. 1066 00:45:58,353 --> 00:45:59,454 I'm just gonna do that. 1067 00:45:59,489 --> 00:46:00,556 - I think it's gonna be pretty. - (inaudible conversation) 1068 00:46:00,590 --> 00:46:02,492 You know, next time, I'm gonna make you guys my fudge. 1069 00:46:02,525 --> 00:46:04,561 That's the best. I think I've only made that, 1070 00:46:04,594 --> 00:46:07,329 you know, on the show, like, a couple times. Mmm. 1071 00:46:07,362 --> 00:46:09,232 I know! I wish we had smell-o-vision, 1072 00:46:09,264 --> 00:46:10,299 - so you could smell this. - (laughter) 1073 00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:12,035 This is really nice. 1074 00:46:14,103 --> 00:46:15,639 (chuckling) 1075 00:46:18,273 --> 00:46:19,442 Oh! 1076 00:46:19,474 --> 00:46:21,210 That one. How much time do we have? 1077 00:46:21,244 --> 00:46:22,345 MAN: 10 minutes, Tammy. 1078 00:46:22,378 --> 00:46:23,981 Oh, goodness! 1079 00:46:25,415 --> 00:46:27,583 Hey, Mom. Did you see the show? (chuckles) 1080 00:46:27,616 --> 00:46:29,351 Wasn't that fun? 1081 00:46:29,384 --> 00:46:32,354 I'm not sure what's so Christian about decorating a cupcake. 1082 00:46:32,387 --> 00:46:34,924 (laughs) Oh, Mom, you're so funny. 1083 00:46:34,958 --> 00:46:36,559 - Have you seen this? - TAMMY: Hmm? 1084 00:46:36,592 --> 00:46:37,994 From The Observer. 1085 00:46:38,027 --> 00:46:40,030 Picture of you and Jim on the front. 1086 00:46:40,063 --> 00:46:40,896 Ah. 1087 00:46:40,931 --> 00:46:43,599 "PTL's Bakker diverts ministry funds 1088 00:46:43,632 --> 00:46:46,502 "for new building project." 1089 00:46:46,536 --> 00:46:47,938 What's that about? 1090 00:46:49,338 --> 00:46:50,674 Well, you can't believe everything 1091 00:46:50,706 --> 00:46:52,608 that you read in the newspapers, Mom. 1092 00:46:52,641 --> 00:46:54,376 How's Fred doing? Is he settling in okay? 1093 00:46:54,409 --> 00:46:57,947 Smoke and fire idn't just the providence of Hell, girl. 1094 00:46:57,980 --> 00:46:59,949 You know when I saw that clipping with my face on it, 1095 00:46:59,983 --> 00:47:02,719 I thought for a second that you were proud of me. 1096 00:47:02,751 --> 00:47:07,123 I'm hearing there are articles like this in the paper every day. 1097 00:47:07,155 --> 00:47:08,657 The secular press hates us 1098 00:47:08,690 --> 00:47:11,627 because we're winning millions of souls for Jesus. 1099 00:47:12,661 --> 00:47:14,263 Oh, Tammy Faye. 1100 00:47:14,297 --> 00:47:16,065 You follow blindly. 1101 00:47:16,099 --> 00:47:18,635 In the end, all you are is blind. 1102 00:47:21,371 --> 00:47:23,006 JIM: I don't know how to do it. 1103 00:47:23,038 --> 00:47:25,307 I just need it done. That is your job. 1104 00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:26,342 Yes. 1105 00:47:27,442 --> 00:47:28,544 Yes. 1106 00:47:28,578 --> 00:47:29,579 God bless you. 1107 00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:33,549 (breathes deeply) 1108 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,489 (Tammy sniffing) 1109 00:47:42,190 --> 00:47:44,293 You wonder why I don't snuggle you. 1110 00:47:45,728 --> 00:47:50,066 Maybe it's all that goopy stuff on you. 1111 00:47:50,099 --> 00:47:54,371 (chuckling) Well, it's better than spending the night with an alligator. 1112 00:47:55,471 --> 00:47:57,139 Oh. (sighs) 1113 00:47:57,172 --> 00:47:59,541 That newspaper. 1114 00:47:59,574 --> 00:48:02,311 She saved it like it was a little treasure. 1115 00:48:03,311 --> 00:48:06,648 It made me feel so rotten. 1116 00:48:06,681 --> 00:48:09,453 Well, your mother's never been all that nice to you. 1117 00:48:10,152 --> 00:48:11,788 Yeah. 1118 00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:13,623 Some people just don't change. 1119 00:48:14,824 --> 00:48:17,394 We're not doing anything wrong, though. 1120 00:48:25,601 --> 00:48:27,471 (scoffs) Is that a question? 1121 00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:29,672 No. 1122 00:48:35,844 --> 00:48:38,714 - (phone ringing) - (gasps and sighs) 1123 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:43,786 (phone continues ringing) 1124 00:48:43,820 --> 00:48:45,188 (Jim sighs) 1125 00:48:46,721 --> 00:48:48,424 Tammy, sometimes, I fear 1126 00:48:48,458 --> 00:48:51,595 that what God wants of me is beyond my abilities. 1127 00:48:52,527 --> 00:48:54,296 I'm building so much for Him 1128 00:48:54,329 --> 00:48:57,266 in His name and for His people. 1129 00:48:57,866 --> 00:49:00,135 - Yeah. - And... 1130 00:49:00,168 --> 00:49:02,172 And He's giving me more visions every day. 1131 00:49:02,204 --> 00:49:04,407 Giving me more orders all the time. 1132 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,242 And then, every day, these creditors... 1133 00:49:07,275 --> 00:49:08,811 (phone continues ringing) 1134 00:49:08,844 --> 00:49:12,381 ...and the people who are asking me to save them. 1135 00:49:12,415 --> 00:49:13,483 (phone stops ringing) 1136 00:49:13,516 --> 00:49:14,584 (sighs heavily) 1137 00:49:14,616 --> 00:49:16,418 - I'm only one man. - (water trickles) 1138 00:49:16,451 --> 00:49:17,686 I'm only one man, Tammy. 1139 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,155 TAMMY: Oh, Jim. 1140 00:49:20,456 --> 00:49:23,226 Well, I only need one man. 1141 00:49:23,259 --> 00:49:24,661 You're enough, honey. 1142 00:49:24,694 --> 00:49:26,529 (Jim laughs) 1143 00:49:26,561 --> 00:49:28,264 Okay, come on. Come to bed. 1144 00:49:29,465 --> 00:49:31,601 Honey, it's been two months, 1145 00:49:31,634 --> 00:49:34,603 and we said we were gonna try to have another baby. 1146 00:49:34,637 --> 00:49:36,739 Tammy, I need your help. 1147 00:49:36,771 --> 00:49:39,409 I need you not to get in my way. 1148 00:49:39,442 --> 00:49:42,411 And I need you to not ask more of me than I can give. 1149 00:49:42,445 --> 00:49:43,447 Okay. 1150 00:49:44,846 --> 00:49:47,149 Do you wanna talk some more? 1151 00:49:47,183 --> 00:49:49,386 - (phone ringing) - (scoffs) 1152 00:49:52,755 --> 00:49:54,858 - Can you... - (phone continues ringing) 1153 00:49:54,891 --> 00:49:56,425 Can you talk to God? 1154 00:49:58,161 --> 00:50:00,197 - I'm so tired and... - (phone continues ringing) 1155 00:50:02,697 --> 00:50:03,699 Yes? 1156 00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:06,368 I'll call you right back. 1157 00:50:07,703 --> 00:50:08,771 I'll take it downstairs. 1158 00:50:15,444 --> 00:50:17,447 (upbeat gospel music playing) 1159 00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:23,152 TAMMY,CHORUS: ♫ Don't give up ♫ 1160 00:50:23,186 --> 00:50:25,521 ♫ You're on the brink ♫ 1161 00:50:25,554 --> 00:50:29,658 ♫ Of a miracle ♫ 1162 00:50:29,692 --> 00:50:31,793 ♫ Don't give up ♫ 1163 00:50:31,826 --> 00:50:36,398 ♫ Remember you're not alone ♫ 1164 00:50:36,431 --> 00:50:37,500 (laughs) 1165 00:50:37,532 --> 00:50:42,337 ♫ People, don't give up You're on the brink ♫ 1166 00:50:42,371 --> 00:50:45,775 ♫ Of a miracle ♫ 1167 00:50:45,808 --> 00:50:49,913 (over speaker) ♫ Don't give up on the brink ♫ 1168 00:50:49,945 --> 00:50:54,284 - ♫ Of a miracle ♫ - (Tammy chuckles) 1169 00:50:54,317 --> 00:50:56,386 ♫ Don't give in ♫ 1170 00:50:56,418 --> 00:51:00,290 ♫ God is still on the throne ♫ 1171 00:51:00,322 --> 00:51:02,658 ♫ He's on His throne ♫ 1172 00:51:02,692 --> 00:51:04,827 - ♫ Don't give up ♫ - (volume decreases) 1173 00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:06,796 You nailed it. 1174 00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:08,665 Really? 1175 00:51:08,697 --> 00:51:11,367 This is sublime. This is top drawer. 1176 00:51:12,335 --> 00:51:13,737 You really think so, Gary? 1177 00:51:14,436 --> 00:51:15,605 I know so. 1178 00:51:15,637 --> 00:51:17,507 Your opinion means so much to me. 1179 00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:19,474 I haven't been this excited about working with an artist 1180 00:51:19,507 --> 00:51:20,944 since I produced Monster Mash. 1181 00:51:21,876 --> 00:51:24,880 That's really sweet. 1182 00:51:24,913 --> 00:51:26,915 We could get a Grammy. 1183 00:51:26,949 --> 00:51:28,918 - Really? - Really. 1184 00:51:31,987 --> 00:51:33,190 (knocking) 1185 00:51:33,889 --> 00:51:35,090 (Tammy chuckles) 1186 00:51:35,123 --> 00:51:37,259 (muffled) Tammy, it's time to go. Time for the shoot. 1187 00:51:37,293 --> 00:51:39,429 Come on. We're... 1188 00:51:39,462 --> 00:51:40,762 (over speaker) Can you hear me? Can you hear me? 1189 00:51:40,795 --> 00:51:41,763 - Yeah. - We've been looking for you, 1190 00:51:41,797 --> 00:51:44,500 so, let's go. We're live in 15 minutes. 1191 00:51:44,532 --> 00:51:46,203 Hey, hey, Jim, how are ya? 1192 00:51:46,869 --> 00:51:48,471 Blessed, Gary, blessed. 1193 00:51:48,503 --> 00:51:50,873 I'm sorry, Jim. You know, I got lost in the music. 1194 00:51:50,905 --> 00:51:53,976 Gary here, he just makes it all so awesome. 1195 00:51:54,009 --> 00:51:55,444 - (both chuckle) - Wait till you hear it. 1196 00:51:55,478 --> 00:51:56,512 You're going to love it. 1197 00:51:56,545 --> 00:51:58,014 No, it's her voice, Jim. 1198 00:51:58,047 --> 00:52:01,483 I just turn the knobs here. She sings like an angel. 1199 00:52:01,516 --> 00:52:02,617 (chuckles) 1200 00:52:02,652 --> 00:52:06,356 Well, I'm never giving you back to Nashville, oh, no! 1201 00:52:06,389 --> 00:52:08,458 It's such a beautiful way to connect, Jim. 1202 00:52:08,491 --> 00:52:10,425 It's God's voice through my voice. 1203 00:52:10,458 --> 00:52:12,427 To the world's ears. 1204 00:52:12,460 --> 00:52:13,696 The things you say, Gary. 1205 00:52:14,797 --> 00:52:16,799 Tammy! You're not camera ready. 1206 00:52:16,831 --> 00:52:18,800 You know everybody's waiting for you and it's a big day. 1207 00:52:18,833 --> 00:52:21,536 We gotta do 400 K today. Can we shake a leg, please? 1208 00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:23,606 Thank you. I'm sorry to drag her away, Gary. 1209 00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:25,942 Okay! (chuckles) 1210 00:52:25,974 --> 00:52:27,342 Shake a leg, please. 1211 00:52:27,375 --> 00:52:28,511 Sure thing, Mister. 1212 00:52:28,543 --> 00:52:29,811 Thank you. 1213 00:52:29,844 --> 00:52:31,413 - GARY: Jim. - Thank you, Gary. 1214 00:52:32,315 --> 00:52:33,416 - Tam? - Mm? 1215 00:52:39,355 --> 00:52:40,889 - TAMMY: Ta-da! I made it! - (Jim sighs) 1216 00:52:41,857 --> 00:52:43,425 MAN: 30 seconds, everyone! 1217 00:52:44,659 --> 00:52:45,761 WOMAN: Light on one, please! 1218 00:52:49,431 --> 00:52:51,667 Hmm. How's that? 1219 00:52:51,701 --> 00:52:52,735 MAN 2: Yeah. 1220 00:52:55,003 --> 00:52:56,072 (Jim sighs deeply) 1221 00:52:56,105 --> 00:52:59,641 MAN 3: And we're live in five, four, 1222 00:52:59,675 --> 00:53:02,512 three, two... 1223 00:53:06,614 --> 00:53:10,919 Tammy and I are undergoing the most vicious attacks 1224 00:53:10,953 --> 00:53:14,590 in the history of this ministry. 1225 00:53:14,623 --> 00:53:19,628 By now, perhaps you think that we should be used to these attacks. 1226 00:53:19,661 --> 00:53:21,997 But it's been going on for a long time, Tammy. 1227 00:53:22,030 --> 00:53:23,465 Oh, yeah, that's right, Jim. 1228 00:53:23,498 --> 00:53:26,368 It's been going on a long time. 1229 00:53:26,402 --> 00:53:29,405 We are being persecuted by the secular press 1230 00:53:29,438 --> 00:53:33,809 who simply do not want you to receive the word of God. 1231 00:53:34,442 --> 00:53:36,411 JIM: It is a witch hunt. 1232 00:53:36,445 --> 00:53:39,982 And on top of this, we have numerous past due bills... 1233 00:53:40,014 --> 00:53:41,516 that must be paid 1234 00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:43,953 if we want to save the entire network 1235 00:53:43,985 --> 00:53:46,989 and stay on the air delivering the word of God every day. 1236 00:53:47,021 --> 00:53:50,360 So, now is the time for our prayer warriors 1237 00:53:50,393 --> 00:53:53,896 to rise up because we are in a war. 1238 00:53:53,929 --> 00:53:58,367 You know, Tammy and I, we just hate to do this, 1239 00:54:00,069 --> 00:54:02,371 but if every person watching 1240 00:54:02,404 --> 00:54:06,541 could double their pledge right now, 1241 00:54:06,574 --> 00:54:09,945 that way, we can save the word of God. 1242 00:54:09,978 --> 00:54:11,980 I'm talking about salvation. 1243 00:54:12,014 --> 00:54:16,953 Yours, mine, PTL's, the entire world's. 1244 00:54:16,985 --> 00:54:20,489 So, together, if we agree together, 1245 00:54:20,523 --> 00:54:23,393 let's give the devil a black eye. 1246 00:54:23,425 --> 00:54:24,626 (phones ringing) 1247 00:54:24,659 --> 00:54:27,096 Oh, the phones are ringing. Oh. 1248 00:54:27,128 --> 00:54:30,632 - Praise Jesus and praise you! - (applause) 1249 00:54:30,666 --> 00:54:33,136 And God bless you! God bless you! 1250 00:54:33,168 --> 00:54:34,737 TAMMY: Hallelujah! 1251 00:54:34,770 --> 00:54:38,641 And don't forget, remember, God loves you. 1252 00:54:38,674 --> 00:54:41,945 - He really, really does. - He really does. (chuckling) 1253 00:54:45,581 --> 00:54:46,716 MAN: Cut! Very good, everyone. 1254 00:54:46,748 --> 00:54:48,451 That was not bad. How was that? 1255 00:54:48,483 --> 00:54:51,020 - How was it? - Uh, that was good, Jim. 1256 00:54:51,052 --> 00:54:53,422 - We need to talk. Now. - Jim, it was great. 1257 00:54:53,456 --> 00:54:55,858 FLETCHER: We're still gonna be over budget on that... 1258 00:54:55,891 --> 00:54:59,061 (Fletcher continues talking indistinctly) 1259 00:54:59,094 --> 00:55:02,130 TAMMY: I just want the sleeves a little shorter. 1260 00:55:02,163 --> 00:55:04,065 Everything's about proportion. 1261 00:55:04,099 --> 00:55:05,768 (Tammy chuckling) 1262 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,471 Okay, you ready to see? Close your eyes. 1263 00:55:10,505 --> 00:55:13,442 - I love it, Mother. - (chuckles) 1264 00:55:13,476 --> 00:55:15,111 Oh, Sissy, you look so beautiful, baby. 1265 00:55:15,143 --> 00:55:16,678 - Thank you. - (chuckles) 1266 00:55:16,712 --> 00:55:18,848 RACHEL: Golly Moses, this thing weighs a ton. 1267 00:55:19,614 --> 00:55:20,715 Oh, goodness. 1268 00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:22,652 RACHEL: Why do you have to do so much shopping, Tam? 1269 00:55:22,684 --> 00:55:25,054 Well, I have to get my exercise somehow. 1270 00:55:25,087 --> 00:55:28,558 And, plus, I don't wanna balloon up with the new baby coming. 1271 00:55:28,590 --> 00:55:30,692 (softly) Hey, everyone, come here, come here. 1272 00:55:31,259 --> 00:55:32,360 Now, when she comes out, 1273 00:55:32,393 --> 00:55:35,497 make sure you all tell her how great she looks, okay? 1274 00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:36,965 You know, she hasn't had enough love in her life, 1275 00:55:36,998 --> 00:55:40,136 and it's time that we all change that. 1276 00:55:40,168 --> 00:55:41,503 (all assent) 1277 00:55:41,536 --> 00:55:42,538 Go on. 1278 00:55:44,507 --> 00:55:46,009 (all gasping) 1279 00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:49,679 Good grief. 1280 00:55:49,712 --> 00:55:54,116 You look so good! Come here. (chuckles) You do. 1281 00:55:54,148 --> 00:55:55,585 Right? 1282 00:55:55,617 --> 00:55:56,786 Okay, get up on the pedestal. 1283 00:55:56,819 --> 00:55:57,987 I am not getting up on the pedestal. 1284 00:55:58,020 --> 00:55:59,188 - Come on, Grandma. - Come on. 1285 00:55:59,221 --> 00:56:00,822 - Come on. - Don't push me. 1286 00:56:00,855 --> 00:56:02,090 Oh! (chuckles) 1287 00:56:02,123 --> 00:56:04,559 Isn't it fun? We look like triplets. 1288 00:56:04,592 --> 00:56:06,695 I look like a bear. 1289 00:56:06,728 --> 00:56:08,730 You look like a beautiful bear. 1290 00:56:08,764 --> 00:56:10,967 - Oh. It's too much. - No. 1291 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,001 RACHEL: I already have a coat. 1292 00:56:13,034 --> 00:56:15,804 I don't need it. 1293 00:56:15,837 --> 00:56:18,907 Why are you so unwilling to accept the love that God has for you? 1294 00:56:19,974 --> 00:56:21,677 Can you pay for this? 1295 00:56:21,710 --> 00:56:23,846 The pledges are rolling in, Mom. 1296 00:56:23,878 --> 00:56:26,047 People really like the show 1297 00:56:26,081 --> 00:56:29,953 and they're very happy to accept the love. 1298 00:56:31,753 --> 00:56:33,723 Take the coat, Mom. 1299 00:56:33,755 --> 00:56:35,991 Just take the coat. 1300 00:56:36,025 --> 00:56:37,093 RACHEL: Well... 1301 00:56:37,125 --> 00:56:38,961 TAMMY: Please, for me. 1302 00:56:40,563 --> 00:56:44,901 Well, it is attractive, and it's very, very warm. 1303 00:56:46,101 --> 00:56:47,069 JIM: I just feel like a million dollars. 1304 00:56:47,101 --> 00:56:49,137 - WANDA: It looks great, Jim. - JIM: You think? 1305 00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:50,605 Yeah, very subtle. 1306 00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:52,608 I didn't feel a thing. Not a thing. 1307 00:56:52,641 --> 00:56:54,309 And I played golf the next day. 1308 00:56:54,342 --> 00:56:55,578 So, we'll have a girl's night. 1309 00:56:55,610 --> 00:56:56,679 We'll go to Maciano's, get some pasta. 1310 00:56:56,712 --> 00:56:57,746 SISSY: Yes, yes. 1311 00:56:57,779 --> 00:56:59,548 - I love that place. - Yeah? Oh, wait. 1312 00:56:59,581 --> 00:57:02,018 You know, why don't you go ahead, I'm gonna catch up. 1313 00:57:02,050 --> 00:57:04,219 - I'm gonna go give Jim a kiss. - Okay. 1314 00:57:04,253 --> 00:57:05,255 See ya. 1315 00:57:06,721 --> 00:57:08,690 And that reporter from The Charlotte Observer 1316 00:57:08,724 --> 00:57:10,226 - been poking around. - (Jim sighs) 1317 00:57:10,259 --> 00:57:13,061 Calling some of our secretaries, asking for comments. 1318 00:57:13,094 --> 00:57:14,930 I'm gonna put a picture of that guy's butt... 1319 00:57:14,963 --> 00:57:17,967 - (Fletcher laughs) - ...on a punching bag 1320 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,168 and I'm gonna use it for practice. 1321 00:57:20,201 --> 00:57:21,169 (laughter) 1322 00:57:21,203 --> 00:57:22,938 FLETCHER: We need to talk about the deficit 1323 00:57:22,971 --> 00:57:24,873 we are running on the expansion to studio... 1324 00:57:24,907 --> 00:57:27,910 JIM: Phooey! Fletcher, no, you're such a worrywart. 1325 00:57:27,942 --> 00:57:30,011 We're gonna do a telethon next week. 1326 00:57:30,045 --> 00:57:32,048 The partners will not let us down. 1327 00:57:32,081 --> 00:57:33,716 Wanda, my nose is shiny. 1328 00:57:33,748 --> 00:57:34,916 - WANDA: Mm-mm. - JIM: Yes, it is. 1329 00:57:34,949 --> 00:57:36,217 - WANDA: No. - I'm telling you, Wanda. 1330 00:57:36,250 --> 00:57:38,119 - It's fine. - A little more powder, please. 1331 00:57:38,152 --> 00:57:39,621 FLETCHER: Your nose isn't shiny, Jim. 1332 00:57:39,654 --> 00:57:40,723 You're just being fussy. 1333 00:57:40,755 --> 00:57:42,357 - Oh. (snickers) - FLETCHER: Wanda, tell him he's fussy. 1334 00:57:42,391 --> 00:57:43,960 You're fussy, Pastor Jim. 1335 00:57:43,992 --> 00:57:44,860 JIM: Oh, how dare you. 1336 00:57:44,893 --> 00:57:46,962 You're wearing as much as Tammy these days. 1337 00:57:47,329 --> 00:57:48,297 (Jim laughs) 1338 00:57:48,331 --> 00:57:50,366 Careful, you'll end up looking like a clown. 1339 00:57:50,398 --> 00:57:52,034 (Jim snickering) 1340 00:57:52,067 --> 00:57:54,369 - Stop it! You can't talk... - But you know it's true. 1341 00:57:54,402 --> 00:57:55,804 - You know it's true. - JIM: Fletcher. 1342 00:57:55,837 --> 00:57:57,639 You got Wanda laughing. 1343 00:57:57,672 --> 00:57:59,207 FLETCHER: She's not laughing. What are you laughing at? 1344 00:57:59,241 --> 00:58:00,610 - (Wanda laughing) - It's not funny. 1345 00:58:00,643 --> 00:58:02,311 (laughing) It's not funny. 1346 00:58:02,344 --> 00:58:03,980 JIM: (laughing) You guys! 1347 00:58:04,012 --> 00:58:06,148 Oh, I got a new one. 1348 00:58:06,181 --> 00:58:08,317 Penny, cover your ears. 1349 00:58:08,349 --> 00:58:10,118 What did the leper say to the prostitute? 1350 00:58:10,152 --> 00:58:11,787 - Oh, boy. - What? 1351 00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:13,356 "You can keep the tip." 1352 00:58:13,389 --> 00:58:14,757 - (scoffs) - Oh, shit. 1353 00:58:14,790 --> 00:58:16,291 (laughter) 1354 00:58:16,324 --> 00:58:17,759 Jim, you mean jerk! 1355 00:58:17,793 --> 00:58:19,161 You're gonna pay for that. 1356 00:58:19,194 --> 00:58:21,197 JIM: I went too far. I went too far. I'm sorry. 1357 00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:22,197 (both exclaim) 1358 00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:24,799 - I got you now. I got you now. - JIM: Wanda! Wanda! 1359 00:58:24,833 --> 00:58:25,901 FLETCHER: Wanda, come here. 1360 00:58:25,933 --> 00:58:27,168 Come here and powder his nose. 1361 00:58:27,201 --> 00:58:28,404 - JIM: No! No! - FLETCHER: "Wanda, help. 1362 00:58:28,436 --> 00:58:30,239 - "Wanda. Wanda. - (both laughing) 1363 00:58:31,206 --> 00:58:32,976 "My nose is shiny." 1364 00:58:33,942 --> 00:58:37,345 Let me powder your nose. Let me powder your nose. 1365 00:58:37,378 --> 00:58:39,248 (laughter continues) 1366 00:58:40,248 --> 00:58:42,250 (sad music playing) 1367 00:58:47,889 --> 00:58:49,891 (playing soft music) 1368 00:58:53,128 --> 00:58:56,265 ♫ Somebody touched me ♫ 1369 00:58:56,297 --> 00:58:57,866 ♫ Hallelujah ♫ 1370 00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:02,003 ♫ Somebody touched me ♫ 1371 00:59:02,036 --> 00:59:06,675 ♫ Oh, I was blind But praise His name ♫ 1372 00:59:06,708 --> 00:59:09,177 ♫ I now can see ♫ 1373 00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:10,945 (Tammy vocalizes) 1374 00:59:10,978 --> 00:59:15,150 ♫ I was in darkness ♫ 1375 00:59:15,183 --> 00:59:19,387 ♫ When Jesus found me ♫ 1376 00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:23,326 ♫ But since He touched me ♫ 1377 00:59:25,494 --> 00:59:31,334 ♫ I now am free ♫ 1378 00:59:32,433 --> 00:59:33,735 - (Tammy chuckles) - Wow. 1379 00:59:33,768 --> 00:59:35,704 That was beautiful. That was lovely, Tam. 1380 00:59:35,737 --> 00:59:36,973 Gary. 1381 00:59:38,373 --> 00:59:40,309 Aren't you glad He touched you? 1382 00:59:40,342 --> 00:59:42,110 Truly. Yeah. 1383 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,947 Hmm. (chuckles) 1384 00:59:45,980 --> 00:59:48,116 Well, this is perfect. I love this. 1385 00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:50,186 (chuckles) Well, it's all you, Tam, it's all you. 1386 00:59:50,219 --> 00:59:54,724 Oh, no. No, no. You know I couldn't do this without you. 1387 00:59:54,757 --> 00:59:58,194 You know, your voice makes me feel closer to Him. 1388 00:59:58,994 --> 01:00:00,997 Like He's right here. 1389 01:00:02,831 --> 01:00:03,966 He is. 1390 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,235 Tam... (grunts softly) 1391 01:00:09,103 --> 01:00:13,275 when was the last time that you were touched 1392 01:00:15,043 --> 01:00:17,480 in the way that a woman like you should be touched? 1393 01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:21,217 Oh, well... 1394 01:00:22,518 --> 01:00:23,918 I'm eight months pregnant, Gary, 1395 01:00:23,951 --> 01:00:25,387 so back it up from there. (chuckles) 1396 01:00:26,422 --> 01:00:30,393 Does his touch tell you how talented you are? 1397 01:00:33,529 --> 01:00:34,864 Gary. 1398 01:00:34,896 --> 01:00:37,733 Do his eyes tell you how beautiful you are? 1399 01:00:41,003 --> 01:00:43,439 Does he listen to you? 1400 01:00:43,471 --> 01:00:45,474 Does he hear how amazing you are? 1401 01:00:46,507 --> 01:00:47,976 Tammy. 1402 01:00:48,009 --> 01:00:49,878 Yes. 1403 01:00:49,911 --> 01:00:52,814 Can I touch you like that? 1404 01:00:52,848 --> 01:00:57,085 In that way that you should be touched. 1405 01:01:01,422 --> 01:01:02,491 (gasps) You can kiss me 1406 01:01:02,523 --> 01:01:03,826 - on my neck. - Okay. 1407 01:01:03,858 --> 01:01:05,895 - Don't leave a mark, okay? - Yeah. 1408 01:01:07,161 --> 01:01:10,031 - (Tammy gasping) - (kissing) 1409 01:01:15,871 --> 01:01:17,874 - (breathing heavily) - (Gary moans) 1410 01:01:19,074 --> 01:01:20,242 Come here. 1411 01:01:21,242 --> 01:01:23,112 I wanna hold you. 1412 01:01:24,012 --> 01:01:25,414 (both breathing heavily) 1413 01:01:28,983 --> 01:01:31,453 - Oh, no. Oh, no. - What? 1414 01:01:31,485 --> 01:01:33,321 - Leave them on. - All right. 1415 01:01:34,255 --> 01:01:35,558 Oh, you're so beautiful, Tammy. 1416 01:01:35,590 --> 01:01:37,092 Oh, you're so big. 1417 01:01:37,125 --> 01:01:38,561 Oh, yeah. 1418 01:01:39,628 --> 01:01:41,063 I like this. 1419 01:01:41,096 --> 01:01:42,197 Yeah. 1420 01:01:43,264 --> 01:01:45,266 (both moan) 1421 01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:46,302 (moaning stops) 1422 01:01:47,302 --> 01:01:49,438 What? What's wrong? 1423 01:01:49,471 --> 01:01:51,072 My water broke. 1424 01:01:54,643 --> 01:01:55,845 TAMMY: Mm. 1425 01:01:57,012 --> 01:01:58,914 (softly) You're so beautiful. 1426 01:01:58,947 --> 01:02:00,215 (footsteps approach) 1427 01:02:00,248 --> 01:02:01,549 - (baby fusses) - (chuckles) 1428 01:02:01,583 --> 01:02:03,386 (knocking on door) 1429 01:02:05,087 --> 01:02:06,621 (chuckles) 1430 01:02:06,654 --> 01:02:08,290 He's so precious, Jim. 1431 01:02:18,065 --> 01:02:19,569 GARY: Congratulations, Jim. 1432 01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:41,023 (softly) I understand that Gary drove you here? 1433 01:02:42,590 --> 01:02:46,228 GARY: We called the studio, Jim, but you were on the air. 1434 01:02:46,261 --> 01:02:49,398 Tammy was real upset that you weren't here for it. 1435 01:02:49,431 --> 01:02:51,967 No... (fumbles) 1436 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,938 I'm just wonderful, Jim. I'm... I'm so wonderful. 1437 01:02:58,674 --> 01:03:00,242 We announced his birth on air. 1438 01:03:00,275 --> 01:03:02,545 We got a real surge in pledges. 1439 01:03:03,012 --> 01:03:03,979 Praise the Lord. 1440 01:03:04,012 --> 01:03:06,315 We're gonna get that expansion in Studio 3, 1441 01:03:06,348 --> 01:03:08,616 thanks to this little miracle. 1442 01:03:08,650 --> 01:03:11,086 GARY: Hmm. Congrats, Jim. 1443 01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:13,122 This is such a day of joy. 1444 01:03:15,991 --> 01:03:17,458 A day of celebration, 1445 01:03:17,492 --> 01:03:22,598 but I just can't help the feeling that something else is going on here. 1446 01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:24,465 (Jim breathes deeply) 1447 01:03:24,498 --> 01:03:26,501 That something depraved 1448 01:03:27,601 --> 01:03:29,004 taints this day. 1449 01:03:31,373 --> 01:03:35,644 GARY: Depraved is a very big word, Jim. 1450 01:03:35,677 --> 01:03:37,914 But it's a fitting word, isn't it, Tammy? 1451 01:03:39,213 --> 01:03:41,116 (crying) 1452 01:03:42,683 --> 01:03:44,319 Yes, Jim. 1453 01:03:47,088 --> 01:03:48,324 (continues crying) 1454 01:03:51,994 --> 01:03:56,231 Well, Fletcher's waiting outside 1455 01:03:56,264 --> 01:03:58,666 and he'll get this man back to Nashville, where he belongs. 1456 01:03:58,699 --> 01:04:01,002 - Oh, no. Jim, please, no. - JIM: Tammy. 1457 01:04:01,036 --> 01:04:02,671 - TAMMY: Please. - JIM: Tammy, I suggest 1458 01:04:02,704 --> 01:04:04,440 you don't talk right now. 1459 01:04:04,473 --> 01:04:05,541 (continues crying) 1460 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,108 Tammy. 1461 01:04:08,643 --> 01:04:11,213 Tammy, I hope you're not gonna let him do this. 1462 01:04:11,246 --> 01:04:13,282 - (Tammy continues crying) - Tammy? 1463 01:04:13,315 --> 01:04:16,552 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. 1464 01:04:17,686 --> 01:04:19,188 Sorry. 1465 01:04:19,221 --> 01:04:20,989 - (baby fussing) - (Gary sighs) 1466 01:04:21,023 --> 01:04:22,091 (baby crying) 1467 01:04:22,123 --> 01:04:24,559 I'm so sorry, Jim. 1468 01:04:24,592 --> 01:04:26,594 (baby and Tammy continue crying) 1469 01:04:28,262 --> 01:04:30,031 I'm so sorry. 1470 01:04:39,407 --> 01:04:41,175 Can you take the baby away from her, please? 1471 01:04:41,208 --> 01:04:43,279 NURSE: Okay. All right. 1472 01:04:47,181 --> 01:04:49,584 Let me get you something to help you sleep, okay, honey? 1473 01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:06,469 (baby cooing) 1474 01:05:10,304 --> 01:05:12,308 (bell jingling) 1475 01:05:16,610 --> 01:05:20,348 JIM: (muffled) Yes. That's exactly what I told you. 1476 01:05:20,382 --> 01:05:23,052 Formal living quarters for some of the staff. 1477 01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:24,119 MAN: Wow! 1478 01:05:24,152 --> 01:05:25,420 - JIM: Yes. - So ornate. 1479 01:05:25,454 --> 01:05:27,589 JIM: Inspired by European architect. 1480 01:05:27,621 --> 01:05:29,724 And over here, 1481 01:05:29,757 --> 01:05:33,328 that's the first Christian water park. 1482 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,096 "We are fishers of men." 1483 01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:37,066 That's the bait. 1484 01:05:37,099 --> 01:05:38,634 - (Jim laughs) - That's good. 1485 01:05:38,666 --> 01:05:39,768 JIM: I wanted to show you this, too. 1486 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,203 See, over here... Yes. 1487 01:05:42,237 --> 01:05:45,541 This is Old Jerusalem. 1488 01:05:45,574 --> 01:05:48,077 And it's a stunning replica. 1489 01:05:48,110 --> 01:05:49,845 Oh, it looks beautiful, Jim. 1490 01:05:49,878 --> 01:05:51,213 - Yeah. - So detailed. 1491 01:05:53,815 --> 01:05:57,119 You know what they say about details? God is in 'em. 1492 01:05:57,152 --> 01:05:59,721 - (laughing) Yes. - That's right. 1493 01:05:59,753 --> 01:06:01,255 You know, for as long as I can remember, Roe, 1494 01:06:01,288 --> 01:06:05,593 I've dreamed of a vacation destination for Christian families to come to. 1495 01:06:05,626 --> 01:06:07,730 A place where they can, um... 1496 01:06:08,529 --> 01:06:09,730 Hey, Tam. 1497 01:06:09,764 --> 01:06:10,865 A place where they know 1498 01:06:10,898 --> 01:06:13,101 that their children are gonna be safe, you know? 1499 01:06:13,134 --> 01:06:14,268 ROE: Sure. 1500 01:06:14,302 --> 01:06:16,472 We're selling partnerships to fund it. 1501 01:06:16,505 --> 01:06:18,173 And that way, the partners, 1502 01:06:18,206 --> 01:06:20,342 they feel the sense of ownership 1503 01:06:20,375 --> 01:06:25,146 and a pride in this Christian paradise 1504 01:06:25,179 --> 01:06:26,815 that they've built. 1505 01:06:26,848 --> 01:06:33,521 Uh... Um, how many partnerships do you have to sell in order to fund it? 1506 01:06:33,554 --> 01:06:34,656 JIM: Hmm. Well... 1507 01:06:39,194 --> 01:06:40,795 a lot. (laughing) 1508 01:06:41,663 --> 01:06:42,764 Yes. 1509 01:06:42,797 --> 01:06:45,300 You know, because the partnerships we've already sold, 1510 01:06:46,735 --> 01:06:49,838 they've had to go to funding other projects. 1511 01:06:50,771 --> 01:06:53,375 - I see. - Yes. 1512 01:06:53,407 --> 01:06:55,277 But I've been praying on it. 1513 01:06:55,309 --> 01:06:57,346 I've been hoping that you could advance PTL 1514 01:06:57,378 --> 01:06:58,746 just a little bit of credit. 1515 01:07:00,215 --> 01:07:04,153 Just to get the bulldozers moving, you know? 1516 01:07:07,788 --> 01:07:08,823 Hi, honey. 1517 01:07:10,458 --> 01:07:12,828 Uh, this is Roe Messner. 1518 01:07:12,860 --> 01:07:14,862 He's the developer of Heritage USA. 1519 01:07:14,895 --> 01:07:16,631 Well, I'm not the developer yet. 1520 01:07:16,665 --> 01:07:18,233 JIM: (laughing) Yeah. 1521 01:07:18,266 --> 01:07:19,268 Hi. 1522 01:07:22,536 --> 01:07:24,272 (Jim sighs quietly) 1523 01:07:24,306 --> 01:07:28,844 (softly) The doctors have had her on so many loopy things 1524 01:07:28,876 --> 01:07:31,646 since Jamie Charles was born. 1525 01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:34,949 Pills to make her normal. Pills to make her sleep. 1526 01:07:34,983 --> 01:07:36,652 Um, as long as she's feelin' better. 1527 01:07:38,453 --> 01:07:40,588 Yes. Amen. 1528 01:07:41,956 --> 01:07:44,960 I love what you're trying to do here, Jim. 1529 01:07:44,992 --> 01:07:46,728 - JIM: Mm. - ROE: I do. 1530 01:07:46,761 --> 01:07:48,931 I spent some summers with my wife 1531 01:07:48,963 --> 01:07:50,366 at Knott's Berry Farm. 1532 01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:54,502 Every year the jellies got less and less fresh. 1533 01:07:54,536 --> 01:07:56,672 - JIM: Mm. - And I'm convinced 1534 01:07:56,704 --> 01:07:59,974 it's 'cause they started hiring the wrong kinds of people 1535 01:08:00,007 --> 01:08:01,210 to make the preserves. 1536 01:08:02,777 --> 01:08:04,579 I knew you were my man, Roe. 1537 01:08:04,612 --> 01:08:06,748 ROE: (chuckles) But, uh... 1538 01:08:07,882 --> 01:08:10,552 I'm not a gambler, Mr. Bakker. 1539 01:08:10,585 --> 01:08:12,954 - Oh, well... - Oh, this isn't gambling, Roe. 1540 01:08:14,355 --> 01:08:15,523 Oh, no, it's faith. 1541 01:08:16,890 --> 01:08:19,594 I have seen him perform miracles. 1542 01:08:20,561 --> 01:08:21,762 ROE: Huh. 1543 01:08:21,796 --> 01:08:24,732 I haven't had anyone claim to be a faith healer to my face 1544 01:08:24,765 --> 01:08:28,736 since I was about six years old. (laughs) 1545 01:08:28,769 --> 01:08:32,306 Well, buildings are miracles. 1546 01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:33,641 Aren't they, Roe? 1547 01:08:33,675 --> 01:08:36,679 Well, it's amazing anything ever gets built, that's for sure. 1548 01:08:37,412 --> 01:08:38,914 Yeah. 1549 01:08:38,947 --> 01:08:41,683 This is beautiful. 1550 01:08:41,716 --> 01:08:44,720 We must take a leap of faith for God. 1551 01:08:44,752 --> 01:08:48,756 Especially when the Devil is makin' us doubt. 1552 01:08:48,790 --> 01:08:50,893 God's on our side, Roe. 1553 01:08:52,527 --> 01:08:54,363 Every time we fall, 1554 01:08:54,996 --> 01:08:58,466 God proves His love again 1555 01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:00,836 and we come back. (chuckles, sniffles) 1556 01:09:00,868 --> 01:09:06,375 We come back bigger, and stronger, and better. 1557 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:18,753 "All things work for good to them that love God, 1558 01:09:18,787 --> 01:09:25,461 "to them who are called according to His purpose." 1559 01:09:33,467 --> 01:09:36,005 And I called you, Roe. 1560 01:09:39,407 --> 01:09:40,542 (chuckles) 1561 01:09:42,743 --> 01:09:44,545 (water running) 1562 01:09:47,549 --> 01:09:48,550 (Jim clears throat) 1563 01:09:49,484 --> 01:09:51,520 - (sniffles) - You're welcome. 1564 01:09:55,023 --> 01:09:57,293 You're owed a "thank you"? 1565 01:09:58,592 --> 01:10:01,796 He was nowhere near saying yes until I sat down. 1566 01:10:01,829 --> 01:10:05,033 Oh, yes, to flirt with him. 1567 01:10:09,871 --> 01:10:11,873 Are you gonna divorce me, Jim? 1568 01:10:12,940 --> 01:10:13,942 I don't know. 1569 01:10:16,411 --> 01:10:17,413 I should. 1570 01:10:20,582 --> 01:10:23,085 But God hates divorce. 1571 01:10:23,118 --> 01:10:25,087 It ruined your mother. 1572 01:10:26,086 --> 01:10:27,788 It'll do the same to you. 1573 01:10:27,822 --> 01:10:29,958 You stopped paying attention to me, Jim. 1574 01:10:29,991 --> 01:10:32,961 You broke faith with me, Tammy! 1575 01:10:32,993 --> 01:10:37,866 Gary, he told me that I was beautiful and that I was talented. 1576 01:10:37,899 --> 01:10:39,434 - And he wanted me, Jim. - (sighs deeply) 1577 01:10:39,466 --> 01:10:40,434 JIM: (loudly) Don't touch me! 1578 01:10:40,467 --> 01:10:44,438 Gary wanted me, Jim, in ways that you don't. 1579 01:10:44,471 --> 01:10:46,073 JIM: Oh, my goodness. 1580 01:10:46,107 --> 01:10:48,377 He was my friend. 1581 01:10:48,409 --> 01:10:50,979 You know, I got a letter this week, Tammy. 1582 01:10:51,011 --> 01:10:52,913 From the President. 1583 01:10:52,947 --> 01:10:55,449 The President of the United States, 1584 01:10:55,483 --> 01:10:57,953 Ronald Reagan himself, wrote me a personal letter 1585 01:10:57,985 --> 01:11:02,823 thanking me for my support in his election! 1586 01:11:02,857 --> 01:11:05,694 I'm an important man, Tammy Faye! 1587 01:11:05,726 --> 01:11:09,564 And people don't treat important men the way that you treated me. 1588 01:11:10,698 --> 01:11:11,967 - (book thuds) - (Jim sighs) 1589 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,502 I'm gonna clear my head, I'm gonna pray. 1590 01:11:15,502 --> 01:11:16,938 I'm gonna think about what I want. 1591 01:11:20,641 --> 01:11:21,844 (crying) 1592 01:11:22,877 --> 01:11:24,480 Jim? 1593 01:11:29,451 --> 01:11:31,086 (birds chirping) 1594 01:11:47,068 --> 01:11:50,838 TAMMY: (tearfully) Oh, God. How can I fix this? 1595 01:11:53,975 --> 01:11:55,844 God? 1596 01:11:58,078 --> 01:11:59,514 Where'd you go? 1597 01:12:00,648 --> 01:12:02,016 Where are you? 1598 01:12:03,217 --> 01:12:05,119 Why can't I feel you? 1599 01:12:05,886 --> 01:12:07,988 (crying) 1600 01:12:08,021 --> 01:12:09,524 Where are you? 1601 01:12:11,759 --> 01:12:14,029 Oh... (sobs) 1602 01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:18,733 Where are you? 1603 01:12:18,765 --> 01:12:20,868 Tammy? Tammy, it's all right. 1604 01:12:20,902 --> 01:12:24,105 - Jim. - I'm here. I'm here. 1605 01:12:24,137 --> 01:12:26,942 It's all right. Shh. It's all right. 1606 01:12:31,912 --> 01:12:32,915 Um... 1607 01:12:33,881 --> 01:12:35,917 - Tammy, I, um... - (gasps) 1608 01:12:37,051 --> 01:12:40,655 I prayed on it. And, um... 1609 01:12:41,723 --> 01:12:43,058 What? 1610 01:12:43,091 --> 01:12:45,927 You know, maybe I've been a better builder 1611 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,762 than I've been a husband. 1612 01:12:50,631 --> 01:12:52,567 - Yeah. - Yes. 1613 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,737 But I know for certain 1614 01:12:55,769 --> 01:12:59,807 (tearfully) that you are the only woman on Earth 1615 01:12:59,841 --> 01:13:01,710 who understands me. (sniffles) 1616 01:13:02,243 --> 01:13:05,747 - (crying) - Oh, honey. 1617 01:13:05,779 --> 01:13:07,983 It makes me so happy that you're saying that. 1618 01:13:08,015 --> 01:13:11,085 - (continues crying) Tammy. - Baby. 1619 01:13:11,118 --> 01:13:13,788 - (chuckles affectionately) - I'm sorry. 1620 01:13:14,788 --> 01:13:18,527 - (Jim sighs deeply) - Oh... 1621 01:13:19,793 --> 01:13:21,729 You really hurt me. 1622 01:13:22,262 --> 01:13:23,866 I know, Jim. 1623 01:13:25,567 --> 01:13:27,769 And I think you have to apologize. 1624 01:13:27,801 --> 01:13:31,038 I'm sorry. Oh, I am so sorry, Jim. 1625 01:13:31,506 --> 01:13:33,041 To the partners. 1626 01:13:34,175 --> 01:13:37,145 - Mm? - On air. 1627 01:13:39,146 --> 01:13:40,181 Today. 1628 01:13:43,283 --> 01:13:45,686 Oh. 1629 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,958 (tearfully) I learned the best lesson in my whole life 1630 01:13:50,992 --> 01:13:54,195 because of something terrible that I did 1631 01:13:54,228 --> 01:13:56,030 that I cannot take back. 1632 01:13:57,599 --> 01:14:00,268 I learned how much I love my husband, 1633 01:14:00,301 --> 01:14:02,971 how much I care for my husband. 1634 01:14:03,003 --> 01:14:03,837 (phone ringing) 1635 01:14:03,872 --> 01:14:06,241 And I learned a lesson of loneliness 1636 01:14:06,274 --> 01:14:08,744 such as I never experienced in my whole life. 1637 01:14:10,144 --> 01:14:12,180 (phone ringing) 1638 01:14:12,212 --> 01:14:15,215 All of a sudden, I realized 1639 01:14:15,248 --> 01:14:18,286 that there was a lot more to marriage 1640 01:14:18,318 --> 01:14:20,955 than just the sparkles. (cries) 1641 01:14:20,988 --> 01:14:22,623 - (phone ringing) - (Jim exhales deeply) 1642 01:14:22,657 --> 01:14:25,092 - WOMAN: We're with you, Tammy! - (crying) 1643 01:14:25,126 --> 01:14:27,195 - WOMAN 2: PTL. - MAN: PTL. 1644 01:14:27,228 --> 01:14:30,230 - How can I help you? - WOMAN 3: Ah. Bless you. 1645 01:14:30,264 --> 01:14:32,867 (continues crying) 1646 01:14:32,899 --> 01:14:35,769 (upbeat soul music playing) 1647 01:14:35,802 --> 01:14:39,073 JIM: Because of our satellite, from this moment on, 1648 01:14:39,107 --> 01:14:44,345 the PTL Television Network plans to broadcast 24 hours a day 1649 01:14:44,378 --> 01:14:46,948 till the second coming of Christ. 1650 01:14:46,980 --> 01:14:50,784 ♫ Jesus keeps on takin' me higher and higher ♫ 1651 01:14:50,818 --> 01:14:54,222 SINGERS: ♫ Higher and higher Higher and higher ♫ 1652 01:14:54,255 --> 01:14:58,025 ♫ Jesus keeps on takin' me higher and higher ♫ 1653 01:14:58,059 --> 01:15:01,997 SINGERS: ♫ Higher and higher Higher and higher ♫ 1654 01:15:02,029 --> 01:15:03,998 - Hi, everybody! - (applause) 1655 01:15:04,032 --> 01:15:06,967 God has a fixed law of giving. 1656 01:15:07,001 --> 01:15:08,302 ♫ He gives me a shove Yeah ♫ 1657 01:15:08,336 --> 01:15:09,570 JIM: If you're not giving, 1658 01:15:09,604 --> 01:15:13,641 you cannot expect to have abundancy coming back to you. 1659 01:15:13,675 --> 01:15:15,243 - (phone ringing) - If you aren't giving, 1660 01:15:15,275 --> 01:15:17,679 you're gonna have a harvest of misery! 1661 01:15:17,711 --> 01:15:19,079 - (phone ringing) - You're gonna have 1662 01:15:19,113 --> 01:15:20,315 - a harvest of pain! - PTL. 1663 01:15:20,348 --> 01:15:23,217 You're gonna have a harvest of sickness! 1664 01:15:23,251 --> 01:15:24,653 If you can't go to Jerusalem, 1665 01:15:24,685 --> 01:15:25,554 you could come to Heritage 1666 01:15:25,586 --> 01:15:27,054 and you could go to the Upper Room. 1667 01:15:27,087 --> 01:15:29,690 Exactly what you could see in Jerusalem. 1668 01:15:29,724 --> 01:15:31,659 Except you don't have to get on a plane. 1669 01:15:31,693 --> 01:15:33,094 You know, if everyone watching 1670 01:15:33,127 --> 01:15:35,697 could double their pledge just for one month... 1671 01:15:35,729 --> 01:15:38,666 If you haven't sent your pledge for $15 a month, 1672 01:15:38,699 --> 01:15:42,436 do it now and I want to send you Susie Moppet puppets. 1673 01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:46,107 God becomes your source when you give 1674 01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:48,943 and you sow in his kingdom. 1675 01:15:48,975 --> 01:15:50,144 It works. 1676 01:15:50,177 --> 01:15:52,346 SINGERS: ♫ Higher, higher, higher ♫ 1677 01:15:53,346 --> 01:15:54,349 ♫ Whoo ♫ 1678 01:15:55,315 --> 01:15:57,251 ♫ Wow ♫ 1679 01:15:57,284 --> 01:15:58,385 ♫ Whoo ♫ 1680 01:15:58,420 --> 01:16:02,090 The PTL TV network is carrying out a master plan... 1681 01:16:02,122 --> 01:16:03,924 opening centers all across the country 1682 01:16:03,957 --> 01:16:06,694 to provide food, clothing, furniture, and job bank centers. 1683 01:16:06,728 --> 01:16:09,797 TAMMY: ♫ Jesus keeps on leadin' me higher and higher ♫ 1684 01:16:14,469 --> 01:16:17,771 SINGERS: ♫ Higher, higher Higher, higher ♫ 1685 01:16:17,805 --> 01:16:18,806 - Hi, everybody. - (applause) 1686 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,744 SINGERS: ♫ Higher, higher Higher, higher ♫ 1687 01:16:22,777 --> 01:16:25,313 ♫ Higher, higher Whoo ♫ 1688 01:16:25,345 --> 01:16:28,282 ♫ Higher, higher, higher Whoo ♫ 1689 01:16:28,315 --> 01:16:30,885 ♫ Jesus keeps on leadin' me higher and higher ♫ 1690 01:16:30,917 --> 01:16:32,119 JIM: I've seen the rich 1691 01:16:32,153 --> 01:16:34,222 and I've seen people with little 1692 01:16:34,255 --> 01:16:36,291 who are more blessed 1693 01:16:36,323 --> 01:16:39,493 than the millionaires that I've known who are worried sick 1694 01:16:39,527 --> 01:16:41,395 'cause the stock market doesn't know what it's doing! 1695 01:16:41,429 --> 01:16:43,064 It's going up, it's going down! 1696 01:16:43,096 --> 01:16:45,966 But people who have sown seed in the word of God, 1697 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,069 their stock is always up! 1698 01:16:48,101 --> 01:16:50,939 ♫ Higher and higher ♫ 1699 01:16:50,971 --> 01:16:52,440 - (singers vocalize) - (music ends) 1700 01:16:57,144 --> 01:16:58,879 JIM: That's why we chose this plot. 1701 01:16:58,912 --> 01:17:00,047 And with the help of your investment, 1702 01:17:00,081 --> 01:17:02,851 we could build a shopping complex around the hotel 1703 01:17:02,884 --> 01:17:04,985 and then we're going to have a trolley. 1704 01:17:05,019 --> 01:17:05,853 JERRY: Mm. 1705 01:17:05,886 --> 01:17:08,422 It's gonna wrap around the whole place, 1706 01:17:08,456 --> 01:17:12,260 making stops at everywhere there at Heritage Island, the Heritage Grand, 1707 01:17:12,292 --> 01:17:17,799 and then here at what is going to be our coliseum. 1708 01:17:17,832 --> 01:17:19,033 We're gonna have a coliseum. 1709 01:17:19,065 --> 01:17:20,868 - JERRY: Coliseum. - (laughing) Yes. 1710 01:17:20,902 --> 01:17:23,337 You planning on sacrificing Christians? 1711 01:17:24,171 --> 01:17:27,141 (chuckling) Oh, no. No. 1712 01:17:27,175 --> 01:17:31,012 (laughing) Oh, Jerry, no. We rise again in our coliseum. 1713 01:17:31,045 --> 01:17:33,815 This is, uh, gonna be Christian rock concerts. 1714 01:17:33,848 --> 01:17:35,416 Something for the kids. 1715 01:17:35,448 --> 01:17:39,286 I really wish you wouldn't encourage these blasphemers. 1716 01:17:42,422 --> 01:17:46,059 - Isn't it beautiful? - It really is. Mm-hmm. 1717 01:17:46,092 --> 01:17:48,328 JIM: (in distance) The trees, the oxygen is... 1718 01:17:48,362 --> 01:17:50,398 Are you cold? 1719 01:17:50,430 --> 01:17:52,466 Are you... 1720 01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:55,136 Stupid question. (chuckling) Of course you're not cold. 1721 01:17:55,168 --> 01:17:57,973 - Sorry. - (chuckles) Oh, I'm super. 1722 01:17:59,105 --> 01:18:00,207 (Tammy chuckles) 1723 01:18:03,911 --> 01:18:04,979 JIM: So, what do you think, Reverend? 1724 01:18:05,011 --> 01:18:07,982 We would be tickled pink to have your support. 1725 01:18:08,015 --> 01:18:08,983 - JERRY: Jim? (sighs) - Yes? 1726 01:18:09,015 --> 01:18:11,418 JERRY: The coalition that we delivered to Reagan, 1727 01:18:11,452 --> 01:18:13,555 Vice President Bush... 1728 01:18:13,587 --> 01:18:16,558 well, he's counting on us doing the same thing for him in '88. 1729 01:18:17,257 --> 01:18:18,260 Um... 1730 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,363 You know that Pat called me 1731 01:18:22,395 --> 01:18:26,201 and he told me that he's thinking about making a bid for President. 1732 01:18:26,234 --> 01:18:28,403 Pat Robertson's a good man. 1733 01:18:28,435 --> 01:18:31,038 But if he runs, he'll peel away vital Republican votes. 1734 01:18:32,305 --> 01:18:34,509 We're in a fight here, Jim. 1735 01:18:34,542 --> 01:18:39,180 This gay cancer is affecting our country, our families. 1736 01:18:39,212 --> 01:18:41,315 Republicans can't win without us. 1737 01:18:42,949 --> 01:18:45,118 You need to understand how powerful we are 1738 01:18:45,152 --> 01:18:47,521 in this fight for our nation's soul. 1739 01:18:48,088 --> 01:18:49,491 JIM: Mm. 1740 01:18:49,524 --> 01:18:52,460 We should just stay out of it and keep politics out of the church. 1741 01:18:52,493 --> 01:18:55,496 Too much on the line. 1742 01:18:55,528 --> 01:19:00,868 Democrats are already trying to strip away our churches' tax exempt status. 1743 01:19:01,568 --> 01:19:02,736 (Jim sighs) 1744 01:19:02,769 --> 01:19:06,574 Oh, this time, we'll keep the evangelicals in the tent. 1745 01:19:08,475 --> 01:19:10,110 When's lunch? 1746 01:19:10,144 --> 01:19:11,179 TAMMY: Well, hello, everyone, 1747 01:19:11,211 --> 01:19:13,280 it's just so nice to have you here with us. 1748 01:19:13,314 --> 01:19:17,252 We have an experience today that really is touching to me. 1749 01:19:17,284 --> 01:19:19,653 Right here on my right, I have a young man named Steve Pieters, 1750 01:19:19,686 --> 01:19:22,023 and I'd like to introduce you to Steve. 1751 01:19:22,055 --> 01:19:24,591 (voice quivering) Steve is a patient of AIDS 1752 01:19:24,625 --> 01:19:28,395 and he's so generously allowed us to talk to him today. 1753 01:19:28,429 --> 01:19:31,466 He is presently taking chemotherapy and is unable to travel. 1754 01:19:31,498 --> 01:19:35,569 So, we have a satellite hookup live from LA. 1755 01:19:35,603 --> 01:19:38,373 - Hello, Steve! (chuckles) - Hi, Tammy. 1756 01:19:38,405 --> 01:19:41,141 We're so glad to see you. 1757 01:19:41,175 --> 01:19:42,976 I'm so happy I could be here. 1758 01:19:43,010 --> 01:19:45,346 Okay, Steve. At what time in your life 1759 01:19:45,378 --> 01:19:48,015 did you feel like you were different? 1760 01:19:48,049 --> 01:19:51,286 Did you feel like maybe you weren't like some of the other guys? 1761 01:19:51,318 --> 01:19:55,689 I realized I was gay when I was about 11 or 12. 1762 01:19:55,723 --> 01:19:59,260 I talked with a pastor in the church where I grew up 1763 01:19:59,292 --> 01:20:01,528 and, um, he was freaked out. 1764 01:20:01,561 --> 01:20:02,430 Mm. 1765 01:20:02,462 --> 01:20:06,500 He told me, "Don't tell anybody." 1766 01:20:06,533 --> 01:20:10,170 Never tell anybody anything about it 1767 01:20:10,203 --> 01:20:11,238 and it will go away, 1768 01:20:12,273 --> 01:20:14,976 but it didn't go away. 1769 01:20:15,009 --> 01:20:15,944 Okay, I have another question. 1770 01:20:15,976 --> 01:20:17,679 JERRY: So, the satellite is directly above us? 1771 01:20:17,711 --> 01:20:19,713 JIM: Yes, it orbits us. 1772 01:20:19,747 --> 01:20:23,518 That's how we're able to reach so many folks just simultaneously. 1773 01:20:23,551 --> 01:20:25,420 Let me ask you, Jerry, what's your viewership 1774 01:20:25,452 --> 01:20:26,787 over at Liberty Broadcasting? 1775 01:20:26,820 --> 01:20:31,158 Oh, well, I'm proud to say that we reach three million viewers a day. 1776 01:20:31,192 --> 01:20:35,363 My goodness. Praise God. That's just wonderful. 1777 01:20:36,663 --> 01:20:38,198 And you? 1778 01:20:38,232 --> 01:20:42,170 Well, we here at PTL, we reach 20 million viewers a day 1779 01:20:42,202 --> 01:20:46,173 in 56 countries just because of that miracle 1780 01:20:46,207 --> 01:20:48,142 - up there in the sky. - (TV conversation continues) 1781 01:20:48,175 --> 01:20:50,311 Oh, let's see who Tammy's talking to. 1782 01:20:50,344 --> 01:20:51,479 TAMMY: And, Steve, because of this feeling, 1783 01:20:51,511 --> 01:20:52,646 did you try to make friends with girls? 1784 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,450 And did you try to be around girls and everything 1785 01:20:55,483 --> 01:20:56,717 so no one would think anything? 1786 01:20:56,751 --> 01:20:58,720 Oh, sure, I dated girls. 1787 01:20:58,752 --> 01:21:02,157 I tried to "program" myself to be straight 1788 01:21:02,657 --> 01:21:04,525 and it never worked. 1789 01:21:04,558 --> 01:21:06,194 TAMMY: So, what made you feel... 1790 01:21:06,226 --> 01:21:07,427 And what's this, Jim? 1791 01:21:07,461 --> 01:21:09,262 TAMMY: ...like there was no way for you to be straight? 1792 01:21:09,296 --> 01:21:10,999 I don't know. 1793 01:21:11,032 --> 01:21:13,167 - This is not... - It was from meeting 1794 01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:16,770 other gay people who were happy with the way they were 1795 01:21:16,804 --> 01:21:19,774 that made me realize I could be happy with the way I am. 1796 01:21:19,806 --> 01:21:22,010 - Now, I find this problematic. - (Jim sighs) 1797 01:21:22,042 --> 01:21:23,710 Yes. Well, you know Tammy, 1798 01:21:23,743 --> 01:21:26,146 she... she connects in her own way and... 1799 01:21:26,180 --> 01:21:28,549 Okay, Steve. What did you feel 1800 01:21:28,582 --> 01:21:32,453 when you first heard the word AIDS? 1801 01:21:32,485 --> 01:21:34,389 Was it just a word to you, Steve? 1802 01:21:34,421 --> 01:21:38,326 Well, yes. Why would it hurt me? I was a good Christian pastor. 1803 01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:40,261 I... I can't look at this. 1804 01:21:40,293 --> 01:21:41,628 JIM: No. 1805 01:21:41,662 --> 01:21:43,698 She must have programmed it last minute or... 1806 01:21:43,730 --> 01:21:45,032 You need to get her under control. 1807 01:21:45,065 --> 01:21:47,501 No, no. Let me help. 1808 01:21:47,534 --> 01:21:50,570 Believe you me, I will be having words with her. 1809 01:21:50,604 --> 01:21:51,639 - She's been acting very... - Jim. 1810 01:21:51,671 --> 01:21:52,706 Yes? 1811 01:21:52,739 --> 01:21:54,274 We have our differences. 1812 01:21:55,676 --> 01:21:58,613 People forget sometimes a pastor needs a pastor. 1813 01:21:58,645 --> 01:22:00,148 STEVE: (on TV) As Jesus says in Mark 5... 1814 01:22:00,848 --> 01:22:02,483 Reach out. 1815 01:22:02,515 --> 01:22:03,585 Yes. 1816 01:22:05,318 --> 01:22:06,720 What happened when you told your mom and dad 1817 01:22:06,753 --> 01:22:08,088 that you were feeling this way? 1818 01:22:08,122 --> 01:22:10,825 - Well, my mother cried. - Uh-huh. 1819 01:22:10,858 --> 01:22:13,628 And my father held my hand 1820 01:22:13,661 --> 01:22:17,065 and told me that I was his son, no matter what. 1821 01:22:17,098 --> 01:22:19,300 Ah, thank God. 1822 01:22:19,332 --> 01:22:22,536 You know, thank God for a mom and dad 1823 01:22:22,569 --> 01:22:25,172 who will stand with a young person. 1824 01:22:25,206 --> 01:22:26,574 I think that's so important 1825 01:22:26,608 --> 01:22:29,444 because no matter what happens to a young person in their lives, 1826 01:22:29,476 --> 01:22:32,345 they're still your boy, they're still your girl 1827 01:22:32,378 --> 01:22:33,514 no matter what happens in their life. 1828 01:22:33,546 --> 01:22:35,282 And I think it's very important 1829 01:22:35,315 --> 01:22:38,586 that we as mom and dads love through anything. 1830 01:22:38,618 --> 01:22:40,654 And that's the way with Jesus, you know? 1831 01:22:40,688 --> 01:22:43,091 Jesus loves us through anything. 1832 01:22:43,123 --> 01:22:45,193 Jesus loves me just the way I am. 1833 01:22:45,225 --> 01:22:48,563 Jesus loves the way that I love. 1834 01:22:48,595 --> 01:22:50,831 And have you found it to be true 1835 01:22:50,864 --> 01:22:52,500 that people wanna stay away 1836 01:22:52,533 --> 01:22:55,636 and that they're afraid to be in the same room as you 1837 01:22:55,668 --> 01:22:57,639 and breathe the same air that you breathe? 1838 01:22:58,439 --> 01:22:59,441 Yes, Tammy. 1839 01:23:00,241 --> 01:23:03,310 (voice breaking) And how sad is that? 1840 01:23:03,344 --> 01:23:05,613 That we as Christians 1841 01:23:05,645 --> 01:23:09,382 who are supposed to love everyone 1842 01:23:09,416 --> 01:23:12,787 are afraid so badly of an AIDS patient 1843 01:23:13,487 --> 01:23:15,756 that we will not go up to them 1844 01:23:15,788 --> 01:23:18,158 and put our arm around them 1845 01:23:18,192 --> 01:23:20,627 and tell them that we care? 1846 01:23:23,663 --> 01:23:24,866 (sniffles) 1847 01:23:25,498 --> 01:23:26,833 (phone ringing in distance) 1848 01:23:26,867 --> 01:23:28,903 This is an emotional interview for me. 1849 01:23:28,935 --> 01:23:30,103 I just met Steve 1850 01:23:30,136 --> 01:23:32,773 and it's like meeting him in person for the first time. 1851 01:23:32,805 --> 01:23:34,442 I wanna put my arm around you. 1852 01:23:34,475 --> 01:23:36,377 And I wanna put my arms around you, Tammy Faye. 1853 01:23:36,409 --> 01:23:37,644 (chuckles) 1854 01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:42,150 - (phones ringing) - (indistinct chatter) 1855 01:23:42,183 --> 01:23:43,818 - WOMAN: PTL. - MAN: PTL. 1856 01:23:45,418 --> 01:23:46,688 WOMAN: That's very good. Yes. 1857 01:23:48,655 --> 01:23:50,323 WOMAN 2: (whispers) Every time she calls, she screams, 1858 01:23:50,357 --> 01:23:51,725 "Jim and his buddy had sex on me." 1859 01:23:51,759 --> 01:23:53,293 - FLETCHER: Okay. Shh. - "Now, I'm gonna kill myself. 1860 01:23:53,327 --> 01:23:55,630 "Jim Bakker'll have my gosh darn blood on his hands." 1861 01:23:55,662 --> 01:23:56,496 FLETCHER: Now... 1862 01:23:56,530 --> 01:23:57,864 WOMAN 2: Never heard so many curse words. 1863 01:23:57,898 --> 01:23:59,167 Not even from my brother Pete. 1864 01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:00,234 FLETCHER: Right. 1865 01:24:00,268 --> 01:24:01,735 - Did a caller upset you, dear? - FLETCHER: Tammy... 1866 01:24:01,769 --> 01:24:02,936 Yes. 1867 01:24:02,970 --> 01:24:05,173 Oh, I'm so sorry. You know, when we do shows like this, 1868 01:24:05,206 --> 01:24:08,376 really, we're challenging Christians to open their hearts. 1869 01:24:08,408 --> 01:24:10,677 - And some don't take it that well. - Tammy, I will handle this. 1870 01:24:10,711 --> 01:24:12,280 Oh, no, I have this, Richard. 1871 01:24:12,313 --> 01:24:15,248 It wasn't about the AIDS man. It was about Jim. 1872 01:24:15,282 --> 01:24:17,752 She's called before. We all call her "The Shrieker." 1873 01:24:17,784 --> 01:24:19,921 She says Jim and his buddy had sex on her. 1874 01:24:19,953 --> 01:24:21,621 Tammy, you're needed on stage four. 1875 01:24:21,654 --> 01:24:24,391 Gosh, we've been having these pranks for a long time. 1876 01:24:24,425 --> 01:24:26,761 And some people, they're just hurting so bad 1877 01:24:26,793 --> 01:24:29,363 and we just need to love them. (chuckles) 1878 01:24:29,395 --> 01:24:31,933 Anyway, Jim doesn't have that in him. Believe me. 1879 01:24:33,367 --> 01:24:35,503 I know him better than anyone. 1880 01:24:38,805 --> 01:24:40,340 (breathing heavily) 1881 01:24:44,577 --> 01:24:46,580 (unnerving music playing) 1882 01:24:58,425 --> 01:24:59,894 Join the PTL Club, 1883 01:24:59,926 --> 01:25:02,762 and Tammy wants to send you a copy of her book... 1884 01:25:02,796 --> 01:25:06,667 about how to overcome fear. 1885 01:25:06,699 --> 01:25:09,869 (muffled) If you haven't sent in your pledge... 1886 01:25:09,903 --> 01:25:12,306 $15, that is all, $15 a month, 1887 01:25:12,338 --> 01:25:14,975 it'll change your life 1888 01:25:15,009 --> 01:25:17,545 and, uh, we could all use a little bit of that. 1889 01:25:17,577 --> 01:25:20,013 So, Tammy, I think you oughta sing a song for us. 1890 01:25:20,046 --> 01:25:22,817 Oh, I'm back here looking at the boat, Jim. 1891 01:25:22,850 --> 01:25:24,252 Isn't this a magnificent thing? 1892 01:25:24,284 --> 01:25:25,519 JIM: Yes. 1893 01:25:25,551 --> 01:25:26,720 Right here in our beach. 1894 01:25:26,753 --> 01:25:29,323 JIM: Looks brand new, I bet. 1895 01:25:29,355 --> 01:25:30,491 One of the local boat companies 1896 01:25:30,524 --> 01:25:31,959 - loaned it to us, I bet. - I'm gonna take my shoes off. 1897 01:25:31,992 --> 01:25:34,962 I'm gonna wade in the water. 1898 01:25:34,994 --> 01:25:38,366 JIM: I don't think that boat's ever seen water. 1899 01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:40,301 Oh, it's fake. That's... 1900 01:25:41,467 --> 01:25:42,636 That's why. 1901 01:25:43,304 --> 01:25:44,704 (Jim laughing) 1902 01:25:44,738 --> 01:25:46,507 "That's why" what, Tam? 1903 01:25:48,708 --> 01:25:50,443 TAMMY: That's why I can't hear Him. 1904 01:25:50,476 --> 01:25:51,511 JIM: Oh. 1905 01:25:52,779 --> 01:25:55,250 How can I hear Him when the sky is fake? 1906 01:25:56,350 --> 01:25:57,718 JIM: You want to stand up, honey? 1907 01:25:57,751 --> 01:25:59,387 We're trying to do a TV show here, baby. 1908 01:25:59,420 --> 01:26:00,587 You wanna come give me some help? 1909 01:26:01,721 --> 01:26:03,257 No? Well... 1910 01:26:05,391 --> 01:26:06,827 (chuckles awkwardly) 1911 01:26:06,859 --> 01:26:09,829 I guess it's a good time as any to work on the tan. 1912 01:26:09,863 --> 01:26:12,500 (audience laughs) 1913 01:26:12,533 --> 01:26:15,536 Well, if Tammy's not going to sing, I guess I am. 1914 01:26:15,568 --> 01:26:16,603 ♫ Oh, we're blest ♫ 1915 01:26:16,636 --> 01:26:17,771 ♫ We're blest, we're blest ♫ 1916 01:26:20,573 --> 01:26:22,375 JIM: We just got her home. 1917 01:26:22,408 --> 01:26:24,444 She's doing okay, she's fine. 1918 01:26:24,478 --> 01:26:28,616 No, yeah. We'll be taking her to the Betty Ford Center in the morning. 1919 01:26:28,649 --> 01:26:32,887 She just needs to rest. No shows for a while. 1920 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,456 (whispers) What's happening with the other thing? 1921 01:26:37,024 --> 01:26:40,828 (whispers) Can I just say I love you so much? 1922 01:26:40,860 --> 01:26:42,896 - (chuckles) - I love you. 1923 01:26:42,930 --> 01:26:46,967 My friends are gonna be so excited when I tell them that I met you. 1924 01:26:50,871 --> 01:26:51,873 (nurse clears throat) 1925 01:26:53,974 --> 01:26:55,676 RACHEL: Tammy? 1926 01:26:55,708 --> 01:26:58,512 You had enough drugs in your system to kill a truck driver. 1927 01:26:59,546 --> 01:27:00,514 I did? 1928 01:27:00,546 --> 01:27:02,649 The doctor told us if you'd waited a day longer, 1929 01:27:02,683 --> 01:27:04,585 you would have had brain damage. 1930 01:27:04,618 --> 01:27:06,921 You could have died. 1931 01:27:06,953 --> 01:27:08,822 You can't take all those pills, honey. 1932 01:27:08,855 --> 01:27:09,889 They're addictive. 1933 01:27:09,922 --> 01:27:12,025 I didn't know that. I'll stop. 1934 01:27:12,059 --> 01:27:14,395 The doctors didn't tell me that. 1935 01:27:14,427 --> 01:27:16,430 I'm not a drug addict. 1936 01:27:17,564 --> 01:27:19,434 I'm only addicted to Diet Coke. 1937 01:27:20,466 --> 01:27:22,737 You have to stay right here. 1938 01:27:24,171 --> 01:27:25,707 God doesn't want you yet. 1939 01:27:26,739 --> 01:27:28,775 I have always prayed to Him 1940 01:27:28,809 --> 01:27:32,447 that He would allow you to save the souls that I wasn't able to. 1941 01:27:33,780 --> 01:27:35,483 And He has. 1942 01:27:36,082 --> 01:27:37,085 You do. 1943 01:27:38,519 --> 01:27:41,823 So, you have to stay right here. 1944 01:27:43,689 --> 01:27:44,791 Okay? 1945 01:27:45,859 --> 01:27:47,628 Okay, Mom. 1946 01:27:58,671 --> 01:28:01,007 (humming) 1947 01:28:23,997 --> 01:28:24,999 JIM: Tammy. 1948 01:28:25,933 --> 01:28:28,034 Oh. Hi, Jim. 1949 01:28:30,703 --> 01:28:33,573 The Devil's coming for me, Tammy. 1950 01:28:34,475 --> 01:28:37,511 Can we talk about Satan later? 1951 01:28:37,543 --> 01:28:39,546 (sighs) You know, I'm trying to feel like myself again. 1952 01:28:39,579 --> 01:28:41,114 JIM: There was a woman... 1953 01:28:44,784 --> 01:28:46,921 Fletcher set it up 1954 01:28:46,953 --> 01:28:52,725 after you did what you did with Gary. 1955 01:28:52,759 --> 01:28:56,530 I did it to prove something to myself, I think. I... I don't know. 1956 01:28:57,530 --> 01:28:59,033 I hated it. 1957 01:29:01,902 --> 01:29:05,038 (sighs) I ended up just crying in the bathroom. 1958 01:29:06,139 --> 01:29:07,775 (Jim sighs deeply) 1959 01:29:11,845 --> 01:29:13,079 I fell... 1960 01:29:13,779 --> 01:29:14,814 (sighs) 1961 01:29:14,848 --> 01:29:16,551 a long way. 1962 01:29:18,150 --> 01:29:19,487 I'm so sorry. 1963 01:29:24,224 --> 01:29:26,194 Say something. 1964 01:29:29,829 --> 01:29:31,765 I've been hurting so bad, Jim. 1965 01:29:32,698 --> 01:29:34,067 For years. 1966 01:29:36,537 --> 01:29:39,173 And there's never any release to the pain. 1967 01:29:40,741 --> 01:29:43,511 There's never anything to make it stop hurting. 1968 01:29:44,877 --> 01:29:48,047 And when I get up in the morning, 1969 01:29:48,081 --> 01:29:50,083 I feel like I'm just gonna throw up... 1970 01:29:51,284 --> 01:29:54,087 and throw up, and throw up. 1971 01:29:56,023 --> 01:29:59,860 And I have to self-talk myself, "You can make it, Tammy. 1972 01:29:59,893 --> 01:30:01,761 (voice breaking) "You can make it. 1973 01:30:01,795 --> 01:30:03,965 "Don't give up." 1974 01:30:05,299 --> 01:30:06,900 (crying) 1975 01:30:08,635 --> 01:30:10,938 Damn it, Jim! 1976 01:30:12,973 --> 01:30:17,944 I'm so sick from my faith in you! 1977 01:30:20,881 --> 01:30:23,284 Well, I'm sick of you, too. 1978 01:30:25,918 --> 01:30:29,823 You try being married to Tammy Faye. 1979 01:30:29,855 --> 01:30:33,993 All I've been doing is trying to keep our marriage together, 1980 01:30:34,027 --> 01:30:37,297 keep the ministry together, working night and day 1981 01:30:37,331 --> 01:30:40,634 while you're just buying minks 1982 01:30:40,667 --> 01:30:42,970 and drinking soda pop 1983 01:30:43,002 --> 01:30:47,107 and cheating on me with that ape! 1984 01:30:51,243 --> 01:30:54,014 You used to take care of me, Tammy. 1985 01:30:54,046 --> 01:30:55,748 You stopped taking care of me. 1986 01:30:55,782 --> 01:30:58,185 I don't wanna take care of you, Jim. 1987 01:30:58,217 --> 01:31:00,720 I don't wanna be your mother. 1988 01:31:00,753 --> 01:31:03,623 A woman needs a man in a relationship! 1989 01:31:03,657 --> 01:31:05,893 - I am a man! - You're a boy. 1990 01:31:05,926 --> 01:31:07,695 I built all of this. I built you an empire. 1991 01:31:07,728 --> 01:31:09,797 You built you an empire. 1992 01:31:09,829 --> 01:31:12,733 No man could ever give you enough. 1993 01:31:12,765 --> 01:31:15,668 You're a bottomless pit. 1994 01:31:15,702 --> 01:31:18,072 And you keep on asking me for more 1995 01:31:18,104 --> 01:31:23,676 with that whiny, grating Betty Boop voice! 1996 01:31:23,710 --> 01:31:25,046 (Jim grunts with frustration) 1997 01:31:26,046 --> 01:31:27,915 (Jim breathing heavily) 1998 01:31:39,259 --> 01:31:40,962 I thought you liked Betty Boop. 1999 01:31:44,363 --> 01:31:45,799 I'm sorry. 2000 01:31:46,766 --> 01:31:49,036 I'm so sorry, Tammy. 2001 01:31:49,068 --> 01:31:50,337 Me, too, Jim. 2002 01:31:51,238 --> 01:31:52,607 (sniffles) Um... 2003 01:31:55,074 --> 01:32:00,346 There's another thing. The woman... 2004 01:32:00,380 --> 01:32:05,653 I gave her money to stay quiet, but she didn't. 2005 01:32:05,685 --> 01:32:06,519 And, um... 2006 01:32:06,554 --> 01:32:09,056 And the money came from PTL donors. 2007 01:32:09,088 --> 01:32:10,224 Jim. 2008 01:32:10,256 --> 01:32:12,025 And Charles Shepard has the story from The Observer. 2009 01:32:12,059 --> 01:32:13,159 And he's gonna print it tomorrow. 2010 01:32:13,193 --> 01:32:15,396 Oh, my God. (breathing shakily) 2011 01:32:19,332 --> 01:32:22,003 - JIM: I just... I know... - Jim. Oh, my God. 2012 01:32:24,336 --> 01:32:26,107 I destroyed everything. 2013 01:32:27,808 --> 01:32:29,710 Our life's work, Jim. 2014 01:32:29,743 --> 01:32:30,878 I know. 2015 01:32:31,978 --> 01:32:33,314 Tammy. 2016 01:32:34,814 --> 01:32:37,717 Tam, my sweetheart, 2017 01:32:39,118 --> 01:32:42,322 if anyone falls, it's gonna be me. 2018 01:32:42,354 --> 01:32:45,792 You can let me be the man that I was meant to be for you. 2019 01:32:46,993 --> 01:32:49,096 You don't know anything. 2020 01:32:49,996 --> 01:32:51,766 (knocking on door) 2021 01:32:52,299 --> 01:32:53,801 Oh, they're here. 2022 01:32:53,833 --> 01:32:54,967 Who's that? 2023 01:32:55,001 --> 01:32:56,436 It's all right. 2024 01:32:58,037 --> 01:33:00,006 These are the men that are gonna help me fix this. 2025 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,108 Oh, no, Jim. 2026 01:33:02,141 --> 01:33:04,845 - No, no. - Reverend. Thank you so much. 2027 01:33:04,877 --> 01:33:06,479 - Thank you so much for coming. - JERRY: Jim. 2028 01:33:06,512 --> 01:33:09,149 Oh, it's love that carried me here today. 2029 01:33:09,181 --> 01:33:11,217 - JIM: (sighs) God bless you. - JERRY: Tammy Faye. 2030 01:33:11,818 --> 01:33:13,052 Jerry. 2031 01:33:13,086 --> 01:33:15,088 JIM: Come in, please. Please come in. Welcome. 2032 01:33:15,122 --> 01:33:17,024 Thank you. Thank you for coming, fellas. 2033 01:33:17,056 --> 01:33:18,192 All right. 2034 01:33:18,992 --> 01:33:20,828 Well, here we are. 2035 01:33:20,860 --> 01:33:23,997 JERRY: We think it's best that we create a distance 2036 01:33:24,029 --> 01:33:26,132 between you and the ministry. 2037 01:33:26,166 --> 01:33:28,135 It'll only be for a couple of weeks. 2038 01:33:28,167 --> 01:33:31,771 Then, gradually, we'll bring you back on the network 2039 01:33:31,805 --> 01:33:33,907 after all this unpleasantness settles down. 2040 01:33:33,939 --> 01:33:37,176 Jerry, you're a Baptist. You know, you're not a charismatic. 2041 01:33:37,210 --> 01:33:39,078 And our audience won't like that. 2042 01:33:39,112 --> 01:33:40,448 - Right, Jim? - Audience? 2043 01:33:41,247 --> 01:33:43,216 I thought they were parishioners. 2044 01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:44,952 They are. 2045 01:33:44,984 --> 01:33:47,186 They're our partners. We call them partners. 2046 01:33:47,220 --> 01:33:48,422 JERRY: Mm. 2047 01:33:48,454 --> 01:33:50,323 20 million souls a day 2048 01:33:50,357 --> 01:33:53,827 touched by The Word. Thanks to PTL. 2049 01:33:53,859 --> 01:33:55,027 JIM,TAMMY: Mm. 2050 01:33:55,060 --> 01:33:56,863 JERRY: You go back there right away, and... 2051 01:33:58,265 --> 01:33:59,833 Well, bless your hearts. 2052 01:33:59,866 --> 01:34:03,804 Look at the two of you right now, so very pitiful. 2053 01:34:03,836 --> 01:34:06,172 They see you, and they'll change the channel. 2054 01:34:07,908 --> 01:34:09,443 Jim, 2055 01:34:09,475 --> 01:34:11,845 all those souls you won 2056 01:34:13,078 --> 01:34:15,014 for Jesus... 2057 01:34:16,515 --> 01:34:18,851 I'm here for you. 2058 01:34:18,885 --> 01:34:21,021 - JIM: Thank you, Reverend. - JERRY: Mm. 2059 01:34:21,387 --> 01:34:22,389 (hesitates) 2060 01:34:24,591 --> 01:34:27,094 Just make sure you take care of our partners. 2061 01:34:28,427 --> 01:34:30,396 That is the only thing that matters now. 2062 01:34:37,570 --> 01:34:39,105 (network music playing) 2063 01:34:40,907 --> 01:34:42,909 ANNOUNCER: You're watching PTL, 2064 01:34:42,943 --> 01:34:44,912 The Inspirational Network. 2065 01:34:47,848 --> 01:34:49,917 Tammy and I are so very glad 2066 01:34:49,949 --> 01:34:54,453 that we've been granted the opportunity to talk with you today, 2067 01:34:54,487 --> 01:34:56,123 and, um... 2068 01:34:56,155 --> 01:34:57,591 Say hello. 2069 01:34:57,623 --> 01:34:59,260 Hello, everybody. 2070 01:34:59,859 --> 01:35:01,060 And... 2071 01:35:01,862 --> 01:35:04,096 we want to say to you 2072 01:35:04,130 --> 01:35:09,235 that we are so very, very sorry. 2073 01:35:09,269 --> 01:35:12,539 And to thank the people who are standing with us all over, 2074 01:35:12,572 --> 01:35:15,375 saying, "Jim, we do forgive you. 2075 01:35:15,408 --> 01:35:19,246 "We forgive Jim and Tammy of all of their sins." 2076 01:35:19,278 --> 01:35:23,249 And we're so thankful that God has forgiven us. 2077 01:35:23,283 --> 01:35:25,919 We don't know what the future holds, 2078 01:35:25,952 --> 01:35:27,954 but I believe, Tammy. 2079 01:35:27,988 --> 01:35:30,224 'Cause the God I know is still God. 2080 01:35:30,256 --> 01:35:33,192 I believe that the sun will shine again. 2081 01:35:33,225 --> 01:35:34,594 Oh, I do, too, Jim. 2082 01:35:34,627 --> 01:35:36,896 Do you wanna sing it? Can you do it? 2083 01:35:36,930 --> 01:35:38,599 - I sure will. - All right. 2084 01:35:38,631 --> 01:35:42,435 All right, Tammy Faye is going to sing a song for us. 2085 01:35:42,469 --> 01:35:44,003 (music playing) 2086 01:35:44,037 --> 01:35:45,305 TAMMY: Well, maybe you're hurting, 2087 01:35:45,337 --> 01:35:47,241 and you need this song today, too. 2088 01:35:47,274 --> 01:35:50,911 So I'll sing it for both of us, okay? 2089 01:35:50,943 --> 01:35:56,082 FEMALE CHORUS: ♫ The sun will shine again ♫ 2090 01:35:56,116 --> 01:36:02,389 ♫ Now, if you are facing a mountain so high ♫ 2091 01:36:02,421 --> 01:36:09,595 ♫ That just won't move away ♫ 2092 01:36:09,628 --> 01:36:13,599 JERRY: We've heard about your sinful behavior. 2093 01:36:13,632 --> 01:36:18,072 If you tell us what we need to know about Jim Bakker, 2094 01:36:19,072 --> 01:36:21,174 we can protect you. 2095 01:36:21,207 --> 01:36:24,677 TAMMY: ♫ Oh-ho, listen, my brother ♫ 2096 01:36:24,711 --> 01:36:27,915 We don't want them destitute. 2097 01:36:27,948 --> 01:36:29,950 They're children of God. 2098 01:36:30,483 --> 01:36:31,952 We want to make sure 2099 01:36:31,984 --> 01:36:35,521 we don't leave them stranded in the desert. 2100 01:36:44,130 --> 01:36:46,400 Write it down, what you make, 2101 01:36:46,433 --> 01:36:48,969 what you need, every little thing. 2102 01:36:49,002 --> 01:36:54,274 While you're in your time of healing, he wants you to be safe and provided for. 2103 01:36:54,306 --> 01:36:57,010 I told him how fragile you are. 2104 01:36:57,042 --> 01:37:00,380 He wants to help. He told me so himself. 2105 01:37:00,412 --> 01:37:02,181 (Jim sighs) 2106 01:37:02,215 --> 01:37:04,184 JIM: You wanna start us off, honey? 2107 01:37:07,052 --> 01:37:09,155 - What should I write, Jim? - JIM: Start with everything. 2108 01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:10,991 Start with what you need for clothes. 2109 01:37:11,024 --> 01:37:12,492 What's your salary, Jim? 2110 01:37:12,524 --> 01:37:15,228 JIM: One second. I'll try calling Jerry again. 2111 01:37:15,260 --> 01:37:18,665 He hasn't returned any of my calls. 2112 01:37:18,698 --> 01:37:22,168 TAMMY: ♫ The other side whose storm ♫ 2113 01:37:22,202 --> 01:37:26,573 ♫ Is going to end ♫ 2114 01:37:26,605 --> 01:37:30,210 ♫ Well, your midnight's almost over ♫ 2115 01:37:30,243 --> 01:37:32,579 - (cameras clicking) - "Jim's salary for a lifetime 2116 01:37:32,612 --> 01:37:34,448 "at 300,000 per year. 2117 01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:38,417 "Tammy's salary for a lifetime at 100,000 a year. 2118 01:37:38,451 --> 01:37:40,619 "Secretary for one year. Phone bill. 2119 01:37:40,653 --> 01:37:44,358 "House on the lake. Security. Personal maid." 2120 01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:45,992 (cameras continue clicking) 2121 01:37:47,092 --> 01:37:49,729 I don't see the repentance there. 2122 01:37:51,398 --> 01:37:55,268 I see the greed. I see the self-centeredness. 2123 01:37:55,301 --> 01:37:59,639 I see the avarice that brought them down. 2124 01:37:59,671 --> 01:38:02,608 Jim, I have sat across the table 2125 01:38:02,641 --> 01:38:07,213 from men who have told me about your homosexual advances. 2126 01:38:07,247 --> 01:38:12,152 And since then, I have learned of fiscal irregularities. 2127 01:38:12,185 --> 01:38:14,121 It would be a disservice to God, Jim... 2128 01:38:14,153 --> 01:38:15,455 (sighs) It's all over. 2129 01:38:15,488 --> 01:38:18,759 ...and to the church at large if I allowed you to come back. 2130 01:38:18,792 --> 01:38:21,128 I've been had. 2131 01:38:21,161 --> 01:38:25,799 How could you have trusted people like that? (sniffles) 2132 01:38:25,832 --> 01:38:31,038 You understand that I can't allow you to stay here. 2133 01:38:31,070 --> 01:38:35,274 Your home, and everything in it, belongs to the ministry. 2134 01:38:36,408 --> 01:38:39,145 Your midnight's almost over. 2135 01:38:39,179 --> 01:38:43,750 And thank God, the sun is going to shine again. 2136 01:38:43,783 --> 01:38:46,153 Praise, praise in the name of the Lord. 2137 01:38:46,185 --> 01:38:48,654 The charges being made against you right now 2138 01:38:48,688 --> 01:38:52,725 are, in effect, that you stole PTL blind. 2139 01:38:52,759 --> 01:38:55,694 While PTL was suffering through months after months 2140 01:38:55,728 --> 01:38:58,364 of $2 million negative balances, 2141 01:38:58,398 --> 01:39:00,233 you were paying yourself bonuses, 2142 01:39:00,265 --> 01:39:01,800 you were paying Tammy Faye bonuses. No. 2143 01:39:01,833 --> 01:39:05,104 I don't know if you ever have a positive balance in a ministry, Jim. 2144 01:39:05,137 --> 01:39:07,174 I've never known anyone to have a positive one. 2145 01:39:07,207 --> 01:39:10,110 We're... We're always playing catch-up. 2146 01:39:10,143 --> 01:39:11,411 NEWSCASTER 1: Jim Bakker went on trial 2147 01:39:11,443 --> 01:39:13,145 on charges of fraud today. 2148 01:39:13,179 --> 01:39:14,480 The prosecution called Bakker, 2149 01:39:14,514 --> 01:39:15,549 "A man corrupted by love of money and luxury." 2150 01:39:15,582 --> 01:39:16,716 The founder of the now-bankrupt PTL ministry 2151 01:39:16,748 --> 01:39:17,849 swindled followers 2152 01:39:17,884 --> 01:39:20,386 out of millions of dollars to support a lavish lifestyle. 2153 01:39:20,420 --> 01:39:21,587 NEWSCASTER 2: One couple showed up 2154 01:39:21,621 --> 01:39:22,822 in Jim and Tammy Faye masks. 2155 01:39:22,855 --> 01:39:24,190 NEWSCASTER 3: ...couple million dollars in PTL cash 2156 01:39:24,224 --> 01:39:25,559 for their personal use. 2157 01:39:25,591 --> 01:39:28,094 TED: How much money did you earn last year? 2158 01:39:28,127 --> 01:39:32,364 Salary, bonuses, and dividends, and royalties... 2159 01:39:32,398 --> 01:39:33,600 No idea? You're starting... 2160 01:39:33,632 --> 01:39:35,301 I don't have the exact figure. 2161 01:39:35,335 --> 01:39:37,304 - TED: Not exactly. - I honestly, honest... 2162 01:39:37,336 --> 01:39:39,839 I do not know how much I make. I never thought about it. 2163 01:39:39,872 --> 01:39:42,576 - She don't. (chuckles) - I really don't. 2164 01:39:42,609 --> 01:39:44,277 NEWSCASTER: To raise desperately needed cash, 2165 01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:46,880 PTL is auctioning off opulent personal items 2166 01:39:46,912 --> 01:39:49,348 deposed Evangelists Jim and Tammy Bakker 2167 01:39:49,381 --> 01:39:50,583 bought with church donations. 2168 01:39:50,617 --> 01:39:52,586 They also brought new charges of moral failure. 2169 01:39:52,618 --> 01:39:54,186 NEWSCASTER 2: ...having sex with Reverend Jim Bakker. 2170 01:39:54,220 --> 01:39:55,320 NEWSCASTER 3: Jessica Hahn, 2171 01:39:55,354 --> 01:39:58,824 Bakker personally directed the payment of PTL hush money. 2172 01:39:58,858 --> 01:40:00,659 We grieve for the impact all of this has had 2173 01:40:00,693 --> 01:40:02,829 upon the entire Christian community. 2174 01:40:02,862 --> 01:40:06,632 TED: As for the homosexual advances going back to 1956, 2175 01:40:06,666 --> 01:40:08,902 - you're saying that's a lie. - Yes. Yes. 2176 01:40:08,935 --> 01:40:11,872 Yes, that's... that's... that's true. 2177 01:40:11,904 --> 01:40:13,239 (whispers) What are you saying? 2178 01:40:13,273 --> 01:40:14,306 That's... That's a lie. 2179 01:40:14,340 --> 01:40:16,842 Yes. Yes. And, you know, 2180 01:40:16,876 --> 01:40:18,811 people need to know 2181 01:40:18,845 --> 01:40:23,884 that God loves homosexuals. 2182 01:40:23,917 --> 01:40:25,652 Preachers have to be awfully pious. 2183 01:40:25,685 --> 01:40:28,355 And when they fall from grace, they fall harder. 2184 01:40:28,387 --> 01:40:29,355 People laugh. 2185 01:40:29,389 --> 01:40:31,491 Tammy, we have a bit of goop on our face. 2186 01:40:31,524 --> 01:40:32,859 - (audience laughs) - You've taken her makeup off. 2187 01:40:32,891 --> 01:40:34,728 - (Jay Leno exclaims) - (audience laughs) 2188 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,729 I saw his wife. I heard the accusations, 2189 01:40:36,762 --> 01:40:38,698 wife-swapping, homosexuality. 2190 01:40:38,730 --> 01:40:40,666 Have you seen this (bleep) woman? 2191 01:40:40,699 --> 01:40:43,336 I'd swap her for a can of soup. 2192 01:40:43,368 --> 01:40:45,505 REPORTER: National news, special report. 2193 01:40:45,537 --> 01:40:48,942 Jim Bakker was found guilty on all 24 counts of wire and... 2194 01:40:48,975 --> 01:40:51,344 - Guilty. - Guilty. 2195 01:40:51,377 --> 01:40:54,814 He now faces up to a 120 years in prison 2196 01:40:54,846 --> 01:40:57,184 and $5 million in fines. 2197 01:40:57,216 --> 01:40:58,518 TAMMY: Ted, can I say something? 2198 01:40:58,551 --> 01:40:59,652 TED: Sure. 2199 01:40:59,685 --> 01:41:03,790 I just wanna say, remember, God loves you. 2200 01:41:03,823 --> 01:41:07,360 I wanna say that, too. God loves you. 2201 01:41:07,393 --> 01:41:10,262 - He really does. Bye-bye. - He really, really does. 2202 01:41:10,296 --> 01:41:12,465 TED: All right. Thank you both very much for being with us. 2203 01:41:12,497 --> 01:41:13,532 WOMAN: We're clear. 2204 01:41:13,565 --> 01:41:15,301 (Jim sighs deeply) 2205 01:41:28,381 --> 01:41:29,716 (Tammy crying) 2206 01:41:37,623 --> 01:41:39,725 It's all right, honey. Don't cry. 2207 01:41:41,327 --> 01:41:43,197 (people clamoring) 2208 01:41:44,564 --> 01:41:45,999 (crying) No. 2209 01:41:46,032 --> 01:41:48,835 I didn't do anything. Please. 2210 01:41:48,868 --> 01:41:51,438 (reporters clamoring) 2211 01:41:51,470 --> 01:41:52,738 TAMMY: I have a song for you. 2212 01:41:53,605 --> 01:41:55,507 ♫ On Christ ♫ 2213 01:41:55,541 --> 01:42:00,247 ♫ The solid rock I stand ♫ 2214 01:42:00,279 --> 01:42:06,819 ♫ All other ground is sinking sand ♫ 2215 01:42:06,853 --> 01:42:13,760 ♫ All other ground is sinking sand ♫ 2216 01:42:13,792 --> 01:42:15,661 (melancholy music playing) 2217 01:42:16,895 --> 01:42:18,764 (cameras clicking in distance) 2218 01:42:22,702 --> 01:42:24,838 TAMMY: God... 2219 01:42:24,871 --> 01:42:28,408 I followed you ever since I was a little girl. 2220 01:42:30,810 --> 01:42:32,646 I loved you. 2221 01:42:34,514 --> 01:42:36,382 I served you. 2222 01:42:38,984 --> 01:42:40,920 And I worked for you. 2223 01:42:44,056 --> 01:42:45,492 God... 2224 01:42:48,461 --> 01:42:50,396 where have you gone? 2225 01:42:51,898 --> 01:42:54,768 - It's not over till it's over. - (cameras clicking) 2226 01:42:54,801 --> 01:42:56,670 (reporters clamoring) 2227 01:43:24,430 --> 01:43:25,432 (sighs) 2228 01:43:29,702 --> 01:43:31,070 (door opens) 2229 01:43:31,104 --> 01:43:33,039 Hey. Sorry I'm late. 2230 01:43:33,072 --> 01:43:34,873 TAMMY: Oh. (laughs politely) 2231 01:43:34,907 --> 01:43:36,007 - Hi. - Hi. 2232 01:43:36,042 --> 01:43:38,378 - Nice to meet ya. I'm Tammy. - Nice to meet you. Stephen. 2233 01:43:38,411 --> 01:43:39,878 All right. You need a water or anything? 2234 01:43:39,912 --> 01:43:41,581 - Oh, no, I'm good. - Okay. 2235 01:43:41,613 --> 01:43:42,915 My new headshot. 2236 01:43:42,948 --> 01:43:45,618 (chuckles) Yeah, all right. Nice. 2237 01:43:46,385 --> 01:43:48,687 All right. So... 2238 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,122 I hear you're here to pitch me something. 2239 01:43:50,155 --> 01:43:53,693 Oh. (laughing) So I should... I'll... Yeah. 2240 01:43:53,725 --> 01:43:55,694 So, I have two ideas for you, Stephen. 2241 01:43:55,728 --> 01:43:58,931 And then I'd like to hear what you see me doing. 2242 01:43:58,965 --> 01:44:00,632 Okay. 2243 01:44:00,666 --> 01:44:04,104 Okay. Um, the first one is about puppets. 2244 01:44:04,136 --> 01:44:06,605 I mean, it's serious, but it's also funny. 2245 01:44:06,639 --> 01:44:09,876 It's a talk show but with puppets. (chuckles) 2246 01:44:09,908 --> 01:44:11,777 And it's for kids and also for adults. 2247 01:44:11,810 --> 01:44:16,081 And it's a way for people to talk about their problems, 2248 01:44:16,114 --> 01:44:17,716 but with puppets. 2249 01:44:17,750 --> 01:44:19,586 (both chuckle) 2250 01:44:19,618 --> 01:44:20,786 Okay. 2251 01:44:22,488 --> 01:44:24,724 Okay, I have something else for you, Stephen. 2252 01:44:24,756 --> 01:44:27,159 - Oh, okay, another one. - It's for teenagers. 2253 01:44:27,193 --> 01:44:29,996 You know, the biggest problem that they say is, 2254 01:44:30,028 --> 01:44:33,065 "How can we get people to listen to us?" 2255 01:44:33,099 --> 01:44:35,534 And I would really love to give them that chance 2256 01:44:35,568 --> 01:44:37,070 and, you know, go where they go. 2257 01:44:37,103 --> 01:44:39,905 I'd love to go to the piercing parlors with them, 2258 01:44:39,939 --> 01:44:42,776 I'd love to go to the tattoo places with them, and... 2259 01:44:42,809 --> 01:44:44,177 And you would call this show, what? 2260 01:44:44,210 --> 01:44:46,179 - "Tammy's Terrific Teens." - Oh, yeah. 2261 01:44:46,211 --> 01:44:48,614 I thought that would be, you know, a fun title. 2262 01:44:48,648 --> 01:44:50,784 I was just curious. 2263 01:44:50,817 --> 01:44:52,886 Well, what do you see me doing, Stephen? 2264 01:44:52,918 --> 01:44:55,721 I mean, you're the expert. 2265 01:44:55,755 --> 01:44:58,891 Well, have you reached out to any Christian networks or anything? 2266 01:45:01,461 --> 01:45:03,430 Well, they won't have me. 2267 01:45:03,462 --> 01:45:07,500 Okay. Well, what I've learned from doing these shows, 2268 01:45:07,533 --> 01:45:09,936 and I think you've learned as well, is, 2269 01:45:09,969 --> 01:45:11,003 you know, it is dangerous 2270 01:45:11,037 --> 01:45:13,840 to wanna be seen just for the sake of it. You know? 2271 01:45:13,872 --> 01:45:16,074 Well, I do love the camera, but... 2272 01:45:16,108 --> 01:45:17,744 Why? 2273 01:45:17,777 --> 01:45:19,078 Well, because it's a person. 2274 01:45:19,110 --> 01:45:20,846 It's someone to talk to. 2275 01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,150 It's... It's God's love through me. 2276 01:45:27,118 --> 01:45:28,554 So what do you think, Stephen? 2277 01:45:28,587 --> 01:45:30,157 You know, would you like to do a show? 2278 01:45:31,591 --> 01:45:33,460 (sighs) I don't know, Tammy. 2279 01:45:33,493 --> 01:45:36,196 I just don't think it's a good fit for us right now. 2280 01:45:36,863 --> 01:45:37,864 Okay? 2281 01:45:39,866 --> 01:45:43,168 Well, well, I... I... 2282 01:45:43,202 --> 01:45:45,038 - I really appreciate... - Thank you for coming in. 2283 01:45:45,070 --> 01:45:46,840 - Thank you. - Thanks for coming through. 2284 01:45:46,872 --> 01:45:48,942 We'll take care of your parking validation. 2285 01:45:48,975 --> 01:45:50,210 - Thank you. - TAMMY: Okay. 2286 01:45:51,042 --> 01:45:52,644 You have a good one. 2287 01:45:52,677 --> 01:45:53,846 (Tammy chuckles) 2288 01:45:55,915 --> 01:45:57,216 - Bye. - Bye. 2289 01:45:58,583 --> 01:45:59,786 TAMMY: Oops. 2290 01:46:16,202 --> 01:46:18,003 (boys laughing) 2291 01:46:18,871 --> 01:46:20,105 BOY 1: Oh, man. 2292 01:46:21,140 --> 01:46:22,976 BOY 2: What'd she do to her face? 2293 01:46:23,842 --> 01:46:25,878 (boys laughing) 2294 01:46:25,912 --> 01:46:28,915 BOY 1: I told you she lived here. What a freak. 2295 01:46:28,948 --> 01:46:30,550 (laughter continues) 2296 01:46:33,985 --> 01:46:35,954 - Oh, man. - Hi. 2297 01:46:35,988 --> 01:46:37,724 BOY 2: Oh, shit. She's comin' over here. 2298 01:46:37,756 --> 01:46:40,159 - You guys just hangin' out? - BOY 2: Yeah. 2299 01:46:41,594 --> 01:46:45,765 So, you can talk about me. That's all right. 2300 01:46:45,797 --> 01:46:47,533 But, you know, you gotta shake my hand, 2301 01:46:47,567 --> 01:46:49,569 and you gotta say hi first. 2302 01:46:51,202 --> 01:46:52,771 - Hi. - Hi, nice to meet ya. 2303 01:46:52,805 --> 01:46:54,040 I'm Tammy. What's your name? 2304 01:46:54,073 --> 01:46:55,842 - Um, Max. - Hi. 2305 01:46:55,875 --> 01:46:57,143 But, you know, we're not strangers. 2306 01:46:57,176 --> 01:47:00,046 I live right there. We're neighbors. 2307 01:47:00,078 --> 01:47:02,114 Oh! Let me show you guys what I just got. 2308 01:47:03,015 --> 01:47:06,987 Who would like a picture? 2309 01:47:09,087 --> 01:47:10,122 (TV audience laughing) 2310 01:47:10,155 --> 01:47:12,091 Jolene, I cannot believe that you have eaten 2311 01:47:12,123 --> 01:47:14,293 almost an entire jar of peanut butter. 2312 01:47:14,327 --> 01:47:15,662 JOLENE: Well, I'm sorry, Susanne. 2313 01:47:15,694 --> 01:47:17,630 I happen to be eating for two. 2314 01:47:17,662 --> 01:47:18,830 Don't beg. 2315 01:47:18,863 --> 01:47:20,065 - (dog whining) - (phone ringing) 2316 01:47:20,099 --> 01:47:21,734 Okay, you're being so good. 2317 01:47:21,766 --> 01:47:23,769 SUSANNE: I say, have at it. 2318 01:47:23,802 --> 01:47:24,938 JOLENE: You know, Susanne, since you're having 2319 01:47:24,970 --> 01:47:26,672 so much trouble collecting money for your benefit, 2320 01:47:26,706 --> 01:47:28,141 I might be able to help you out. 2321 01:47:28,174 --> 01:47:30,042 - SUSANNE: You, how? - (phone clicks) 2322 01:47:30,076 --> 01:47:31,677 TAMMY: God bless you. You've reached Tammy. 2323 01:47:31,711 --> 01:47:33,146 Leave me a message. 2324 01:47:33,179 --> 01:47:35,213 (phone beeps) 2325 01:47:35,247 --> 01:47:37,650 Hello, Mrs. Bakker. This is Linda Thomas 2326 01:47:37,683 --> 01:47:39,252 from Oral Roberts School of Divinity. 2327 01:47:39,284 --> 01:47:42,588 You probably don't remember but I volunteered at PTL. 2328 01:47:42,622 --> 01:47:44,691 You were always so nice to me. 2329 01:47:44,724 --> 01:47:46,693 Anyway, I'm calling to invite you to sing 2330 01:47:46,725 --> 01:47:48,961 at this year's festival of Praise and Redemption. 2331 01:47:48,994 --> 01:47:51,363 I think you'd be a wonderful addition to our program. 2332 01:47:51,396 --> 01:47:53,699 We'll check back with you to find out if you're interested. 2333 01:47:53,733 --> 01:47:55,068 Thanks very much. 2334 01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:56,301 (phone clicks) 2335 01:47:56,335 --> 01:47:57,636 (phone beeps) 2336 01:48:14,653 --> 01:48:15,721 (sighs deeply) 2337 01:48:26,332 --> 01:48:28,034 - JIM: Hi. - (chuckles) Hi. 2338 01:48:43,314 --> 01:48:44,850 So, what's new? (chuckling) 2339 01:48:44,884 --> 01:48:46,987 Oh. I don't know. 2340 01:48:49,188 --> 01:48:51,858 I got an invitation from Oral Roberts to sing. 2341 01:48:52,725 --> 01:48:54,160 - Wow. - Yeah. 2342 01:48:54,193 --> 01:48:56,762 That's wonderful. 2343 01:48:56,796 --> 01:48:57,997 - I'm not gonna do it though. - You should. 2344 01:48:58,029 --> 01:48:59,965 No, I haven't been in church for years. 2345 01:48:59,998 --> 01:49:01,067 Well, that's where you belong. 2346 01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:02,802 No, I don't belong with them. 2347 01:49:02,835 --> 01:49:04,369 They're gonna laugh. (chuckles dryly) 2348 01:49:04,403 --> 01:49:05,438 I'm not gonna go. 2349 01:49:05,470 --> 01:49:07,773 It's my fault you feel that way. 2350 01:49:07,806 --> 01:49:09,108 I'm sorry for that. 2351 01:49:10,141 --> 01:49:11,277 All of it. 2352 01:49:13,979 --> 01:49:15,815 I pray for you, Jim. 2353 01:49:15,848 --> 01:49:18,984 And I pray that God will use you again. 2354 01:49:20,385 --> 01:49:21,687 Yes. 2355 01:49:26,058 --> 01:49:28,360 I appreciate you signing the divorce papers, Jim. 2356 01:49:28,394 --> 01:49:29,963 I didn't want to, Tam. 2357 01:49:30,462 --> 01:49:31,730 I know. 2358 01:49:33,498 --> 01:49:36,202 But, you know, we've just been through too much together 2359 01:49:36,234 --> 01:49:39,204 and, you know, there's been too many hurts 2360 01:49:39,238 --> 01:49:41,708 that have happened over the years. 2361 01:49:42,373 --> 01:49:43,943 And that poor girl, Jim. 2362 01:49:43,975 --> 01:49:46,112 I know, I know. I know. 2363 01:49:46,578 --> 01:49:49,381 I'm ashamed of that. 2364 01:49:49,415 --> 01:49:53,051 I've been getting some real me and God time in here 2365 01:49:53,085 --> 01:49:54,753 and everything looks very, very different 2366 01:49:54,787 --> 01:49:56,723 when you're looking at it from the bottom up. 2367 01:49:56,756 --> 01:49:58,057 - Well, yeah. - Yeah. 2368 01:49:58,090 --> 01:49:59,324 And I've just been thinking, 2369 01:50:00,292 --> 01:50:02,962 were we preaching 2370 01:50:02,994 --> 01:50:06,131 that God doesn't love you if you're poor? 2371 01:50:07,366 --> 01:50:09,234 Well, you know that I grew up poor. 2372 01:50:11,136 --> 01:50:13,840 It's not what you have in stuff, 2373 01:50:13,872 --> 01:50:16,108 it's the people that count. 2374 01:50:16,942 --> 01:50:18,810 - Amen. - Amen. 2375 01:50:18,844 --> 01:50:20,380 (both chuckle) 2376 01:50:31,791 --> 01:50:32,792 (grunts) 2377 01:50:34,159 --> 01:50:35,427 RACHEL: Tammy. 2378 01:50:37,296 --> 01:50:38,364 Mom? 2379 01:50:41,233 --> 01:50:43,269 (soft organ music playing) 2380 01:50:43,301 --> 01:50:46,072 PASTOR: "We therefore were buried with him 2381 01:50:46,104 --> 01:50:47,506 "through baptism into death. 2382 01:50:48,506 --> 01:50:49,474 "In order that, 2383 01:50:49,507 --> 01:50:51,978 "just as Christ was raised from the dead 2384 01:50:52,010 --> 01:50:54,446 "through the glory of the Father, 2385 01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:58,150 "we too may walk in newness of life." 2386 01:51:00,152 --> 01:51:02,320 MAN: Such a good service. 2387 01:51:02,354 --> 01:51:03,790 FRED: Hello, Tom. Thanks for comin'. 2388 01:51:06,091 --> 01:51:08,294 There you are. 2389 01:51:08,327 --> 01:51:10,463 Aren't you gonna come in, have somethin' to eat? 2390 01:51:10,496 --> 01:51:13,565 I don't belong in there with them. 2391 01:51:13,599 --> 01:51:15,001 Yeah. 2392 01:51:16,034 --> 01:51:18,237 One good thing about your mum kicking the bucket is 2393 01:51:18,269 --> 01:51:20,272 I never have to go to church again. 2394 01:51:20,305 --> 01:51:22,340 (Tammy chuckling) 2395 01:51:22,373 --> 01:51:24,344 No, I shouldn't laugh at that. 2396 01:51:25,010 --> 01:51:26,546 (sniffles) 2397 01:51:26,578 --> 01:51:29,114 - Oh, I did something terrible. - Oh? 2398 01:51:30,315 --> 01:51:32,518 Oh. (chuckles) 2399 01:51:32,551 --> 01:51:35,588 - (whispers) You're forgiven. - (chuckles, sniffles) 2400 01:51:35,621 --> 01:51:38,891 Ooh. Wow, she really was blind, wasn't she? 2401 01:51:38,924 --> 01:51:40,393 Mm-hmm. 2402 01:51:42,060 --> 01:51:43,896 I got somethin' for ya. 2403 01:51:44,563 --> 01:51:46,565 You recognize this? 2404 01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,436 I thought Falwell took everything. 2405 01:51:51,470 --> 01:51:53,039 She hid this. 2406 01:51:53,072 --> 01:51:54,974 She stole it. 2407 01:51:55,006 --> 01:51:56,341 Well, she said she'd be damned 2408 01:51:56,375 --> 01:51:58,344 if she was gonna hand over this precious thing 2409 01:51:58,377 --> 01:52:00,079 her daughter worked so hard for 2410 01:52:00,112 --> 01:52:02,282 - to the fat Baptist. - (laughing) 2411 01:52:09,622 --> 01:52:11,825 (soft music playing) 2412 01:52:30,275 --> 01:52:32,444 WOMAN: (on PA) We're opening the house now, Ms. Bakker. 2413 01:52:32,478 --> 01:52:34,514 People are taking their seats. 2414 01:52:39,551 --> 01:52:41,554 (in deeper voice) Well, hello there, Tammy. 2415 01:52:41,586 --> 01:52:43,255 (chuckles) 2416 01:52:43,288 --> 01:52:44,489 (in normal voice) Hi, there. 2417 01:52:47,393 --> 01:52:48,862 I'm scared. 2418 01:52:56,268 --> 01:53:00,873 Jesus, come in to my heart, and forgive me my sins. 2419 01:53:02,174 --> 01:53:03,376 I know I cared about things 2420 01:53:03,408 --> 01:53:04,543 that I shouldn't have. 2421 01:53:06,377 --> 01:53:08,313 And I know I got lost... 2422 01:53:10,983 --> 01:53:12,551 and I forgot 2423 01:53:12,583 --> 01:53:14,287 who you are to me... 2424 01:53:17,256 --> 01:53:18,958 but that's done now. 2425 01:53:20,658 --> 01:53:22,961 Yeah, I won't go forward 2426 01:53:22,994 --> 01:53:26,232 looking in the rearview mirror of my life. 2427 01:53:27,565 --> 01:53:29,469 MAN: (on PA) On stage in 10 minutes. 2428 01:53:32,537 --> 01:53:34,540 (somber music playing) 2429 01:53:42,247 --> 01:53:43,249 (grunts softly) 2430 01:53:47,552 --> 01:53:49,021 Thank you. 2431 01:53:50,288 --> 01:53:51,690 Here, this is for the piano player. 2432 01:53:51,724 --> 01:53:52,926 Okay. 2433 01:53:55,094 --> 01:53:56,962 (muffled audience chattering) 2434 01:54:09,341 --> 01:54:10,509 ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen... 2435 01:54:10,542 --> 01:54:11,543 (sighs) 2436 01:54:11,577 --> 01:54:15,581 ...please welcome tonight's special guest, 2437 01:54:15,613 --> 01:54:17,315 Tammy Faye. 2438 01:54:17,349 --> 01:54:19,351 - (clears throat) - (applause) 2439 01:54:22,488 --> 01:54:24,557 (chuckling nervously) 2440 01:54:25,591 --> 01:54:27,393 TAMMY: Aw. 2441 01:54:27,426 --> 01:54:30,463 Thank you. Thank you so much. (chuckles lightly) 2442 01:54:33,564 --> 01:54:37,035 I am genuinely, I am so happy 2443 01:54:37,068 --> 01:54:39,404 to be back where I once belonged. 2444 01:54:44,076 --> 01:54:48,314 This morning when I was in need of some comfort, 2445 01:54:48,346 --> 01:54:51,183 I turned to my favorite scripture, 2446 01:54:51,216 --> 01:54:52,719 Psalms 91. 2447 01:54:55,820 --> 01:54:58,524 "He that dwelleth in the secret place 2448 01:54:58,556 --> 01:55:00,158 "of the most high 2449 01:55:02,161 --> 01:55:06,431 "shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty." 2450 01:55:06,465 --> 01:55:08,400 And this is my favorite part. (chuckles) 2451 01:55:11,069 --> 01:55:12,572 (chuckles, sniffles) 2452 01:55:16,241 --> 01:55:19,145 (voice breaking) "He shall cover thee with His feathers 2453 01:55:20,746 --> 01:55:22,547 "and under His wings 2454 01:55:23,681 --> 01:55:26,284 "shalt thou trust." 2455 01:55:28,153 --> 01:55:29,688 (chuckles and sniffles) 2456 01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,758 Well, I haven't had a concert in almost a decade 2457 01:55:34,426 --> 01:55:36,529 and I am a little nervous. (chuckles dryly) 2458 01:55:38,363 --> 01:55:40,266 But I'll do my best 2459 01:55:40,299 --> 01:55:43,802 to deliver Him to you folks tonight. Okay? 2460 01:55:48,573 --> 01:55:50,143 (piano plays) 2461 01:55:51,877 --> 01:55:53,579 ♫ Mine eyes ♫ 2462 01:55:54,211 --> 01:55:56,715 ♫ Have seen the glory ♫ 2463 01:55:58,183 --> 01:56:03,122 ♫ Of the coming of the Lord ♫ 2464 01:56:03,154 --> 01:56:07,559 ♫ He is trampling out the vintage ♫ 2465 01:56:07,592 --> 01:56:13,131 ♫ Where the grapes of wrath are stored ♫ 2466 01:56:13,832 --> 01:56:15,768 ♫ He hath loosed ♫ 2467 01:56:16,835 --> 01:56:19,105 ♫ The fateful lightning ♫ 2468 01:56:20,605 --> 01:56:25,143 ♫ Of His terrible, swift sword ♫ 2469 01:56:27,578 --> 01:56:34,554 ♫ His truth is marching on ♫ 2470 01:56:36,654 --> 01:56:43,761 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2471 01:56:43,795 --> 01:56:50,903 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2472 01:56:50,935 --> 01:56:57,542 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2473 01:56:57,576 --> 01:57:04,649 ♫ His truth is marching on ♫ 2474 01:57:04,683 --> 01:57:08,487 - (choir vocalizing) - ♫ I have read His fiery gospel ♫ 2475 01:57:08,519 --> 01:57:11,790 ♫ Writ in burnished rows of steel ♫ 2476 01:57:11,823 --> 01:57:15,661 ♫ "As ye deal with my condemners ♫ 2477 01:57:15,693 --> 01:57:18,630 ♫ "So with you my grace shall deal" ♫ 2478 01:57:18,663 --> 01:57:22,534 ♫ Let the Hero, born of woman ♫ 2479 01:57:22,568 --> 01:57:25,838 ♫ Crush the serpent with his heel ♫ 2480 01:57:25,871 --> 01:57:33,179 ♫ Since God is marching on ♫ 2481 01:57:33,211 --> 01:57:35,747 Come on, everybody! Feel his miracle! 2482 01:57:37,315 --> 01:57:44,255 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2483 01:57:44,288 --> 01:57:50,295 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2484 01:57:51,529 --> 01:57:57,702 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2485 01:57:57,735 --> 01:58:04,876 ♫ His truth is marching on ♫ 2486 01:58:04,909 --> 01:58:07,412 Oh, how thankful I am 2487 01:58:07,445 --> 01:58:10,549 for the amazing grace of God. 2488 01:58:10,582 --> 01:58:13,285 Because without that beautiful grace, 2489 01:58:13,318 --> 01:58:15,988 I wouldn't even be here today. 2490 01:58:16,020 --> 01:58:18,323 That grace that reached down and said, 2491 01:58:18,357 --> 01:58:21,993 "Tammy Faye, I love you. 2492 01:58:22,027 --> 01:58:25,497 "And I love you just the way you are." 2493 01:58:25,529 --> 01:58:29,367 You know God's grace is sufficient enough for you today, too. 2494 01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:33,905 And He loves you just the way you are! 2495 01:58:33,939 --> 01:58:40,779 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2496 01:58:40,811 --> 01:58:46,818 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2497 01:58:48,052 --> 01:58:54,559 ♫ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♫ 2498 01:58:54,592 --> 01:59:00,832 ♫ His truth is marching on ♫ 2499 01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:05,338 ♫ Our God is ♫ 2500 01:59:06,305 --> 01:59:09,942 ♫ Marching ♫ 2501 01:59:09,975 --> 01:59:15,448 ♫ On ♫ 2502 01:59:18,417 --> 01:59:22,454 Thank you, Lord, for the United States of America. 2503 01:59:22,487 --> 01:59:23,788 We thank you, Lord, 2504 01:59:23,822 --> 01:59:27,326 that we live in this wonderful country. 2505 01:59:27,359 --> 01:59:31,597 God bless America. Hallelujah. 2506 01:59:32,064 --> 01:59:33,733 Oh, yeah. 2507 01:59:37,368 --> 01:59:39,371 (upbeat gospel music playing) 2508 02:00:26,818 --> 02:00:30,389 It's not over till it's over. 2509 02:00:32,991 --> 02:00:34,993 (soft gospel music playing)