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I'll give you a boost
if you want.

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I don't need your help.

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Ooh. Hell,
she got you, buddy.

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- Toss them beers.
- Here you go.

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- You got it?
- Okay, let's go!

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All right. All right.

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Hold up, hold up!
The beer.

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Take this. Take this.
Come on.

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These damn shoes!

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- Whoo! Come on in, it's warm!
- Come on, buddy!

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Look, you can even wash your hair!

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I washed mine last month.

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Whoo!

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Laura, Keith, come here!
Look what I found.

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- Holy shit.
- What the hell's that?

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- What is it?
- The hell you doing?

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Get out of here, now!

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- Geez!
- Come on!

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Goddamn kids.

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Turn off the beam, fool!

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Steve from Dow,
Ted from Union Carbide...

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Jerry from Exxon
and Andy from Allied.

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Welcome to Taft Law,
gentlemen.

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Before we get started,
a little housekeeping.

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Um, all of you know
this young man

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as the dedicated
Taft associate

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who for the past
eight years has

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buried himself
in the Superfund law.

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I'm not paying
for that cleanup.

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Still it is my pleasure
to share with you

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that just last week,
Rob Bilott was welcomed as a partner

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here at Taft,
Stettinius & Hollister.

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Good morning. Taft Law.
One moment. I'll connect you.

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Good morning. Taft Law.

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One moment, please.

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It's the Governor's office
calling for uh,

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calling for Mr. Burke.

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May I help you?

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Wilbur Tennant
calling on Robbie Bilott.

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EPA has saddled them
with the whole bill

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and given your client's
history at that site,

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that's a real possibility.

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- I'll take it back to them.
- Good. Tab 12, Middletown...

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I know. I'm sorry.

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- But they won't leave.
- Who's they?

47
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I don't know.
They say they know you.

48
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- Um...
- Robert Bilott?

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Um, yes.

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They call it a landfill.
A dump's what it is.

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They told my brother and me
no chemicals, just trash.

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But we ain't stupid.

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I made them videotapes myself.
All the proof you need.

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They're poisonin' the creek,
killing my animals.

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- I'm in the middle of a meeting.
- So, I want a lawyer.

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Every damn one in Parkersburg's
too yella to take my case.

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Rob. He wants you
back in there.

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They all scared shitless
at DuPont.

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Well, I ain't scared
of nobody.

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Okay.
Kathleen is my paralegal.

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She's gonna give you
a directory of lawyers.

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That's why
I called your grandma.

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- What?
- My neighbor who tells me,

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call Alma White.

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Her grandson's some fancy environment
lawyer down in Cincinnati.

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Sir, I am a corporate
defense attorney.

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- So?
- I defend chemical companies.

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- Well, now you can defend me.
- Rob!

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Uh, 30 seconds, Tom.

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- Uh, I'm sorry, Mr...
- Tennant.

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I can offer you
a referral.

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But I just don't see how I
can be of any help to you.

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You can start by watching
them tapes for one thing.

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Oh, let's go, Earl.

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I'm sorry.
I... I wish you all the luck.

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I don't need
your damn luck, boy!

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- I need your help!
- Rob!

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Come on.

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I'm not arguing
with the overall analysis.

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My only point is that
whatever we decide upon...

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Thank you, gentlemen.

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Do you know
where we're going?

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There's a place
right around the corner.

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- Yeah?
- What the hell was that all about?

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- He knows my grandmother.
- Really?

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Well, my mom's from
West Virginia.

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Uh, from a town,
Parkersburg.

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Not us. My...
my father was Air Force.

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We...
We moved around a lot,

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but we spent
the summers there.

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- Come on, Terp. You're buying.
- Of course I am.

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You can be
from West Virginia, Rob.

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I won't tell anyone.

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All right, gentlemen.
Morton's it is.

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Still deigned to eat
with us lowly associates?

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You can't drive
an American car.

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Taft-Hartley,
union busting?

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We practically invented it.

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"We?"

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Besides, I know
a highly esteemed partner

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who still drives American.

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- Some real clunkers too.
- Okay,

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yeah, but he
collects them.

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That's different.
Like his

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no-name college
and law school.

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- No offense.
- Are you listening to this?

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Hey, you guys go ahead,
all right?

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- Look, I didn't mean anything by it.
- No. I gotta make a call.

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It's all right.
I'll see you there.

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Okay, we'll save you
a fish log.

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- You can be such an asshole.
- Karla, it was a joke.

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- Yeah.
- We always joke.

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Oh, yeah. You guys are
a couple of jokesters.

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You've
reached the residence of Alma White.

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I can't come to the phone
right now...

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He's good. He's home
early tonight actually.

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Tell him I
said, howdy, partner.

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She says,
"Howdy, partner."

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Are we ever gonna
see him again on Sundays?

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Yes, he can still come
to Sunday dinners, Mom.

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He's a partner,
not the President of the United States.

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I wanna make...
Do you have my Bundt pan?

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Returned it.

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Where?
I looked under the counter.

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It's the right hand cupboard,
in the plastic. Yeah.

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Okay, well,
we just sat down.

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All right, dear.

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So, I gotta go.

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Love to Rob and Teddy.

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All right, see you Sunday.
Love to Dad.

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Talk to you later.

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Can you pretend to be
surprised about the cake?

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She wants it
to be very special.

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Oh, and the granite samples
came in.

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Can you pick them up
on your way home tomorrow?

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- Mmm.
- Rob?

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Hmm? Uh, sure.

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You okay?

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Yes.

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Bless us, our Lord
and thy gifts

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which we are about to receive
from thy bounty

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through Christ our Lord. Amen.

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Thank you, God.
Thank you for our family.

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Thank you.

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- Hi, Grammers.
- What on earth!

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I tried to call,
but you weren't picking up.

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Oh, well, you know me.
My two fake knees.

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What are you doing here?

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A farmer came to see me.

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Wilbur Tennant?

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You do know him.

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I don't socialize with him,
if that's what you mean.

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Inez Graham owned the farm
next to his.

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I used to take you and Beth
over there when you were little.

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That's the place?

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Hmm.

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- You rode that pony.
- Ah!

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I loved that place.

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Saw a cow
for the first time.

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Learned to milk it.

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I remember
you sittin' there for hours

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making sure you got
every last drop.

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Just like you.

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There.

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Hmm.

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So you gonna help him?

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Huh?

168
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You come up the holler,
dump's up the hill.

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Since I started
complaining about my creek,

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fence goes up.
All blocked off.

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Hi, I'm Rob.

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Sandra.

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The State, any veterinarian
I've called in Parkersburg,

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they will not
return my phone calls.

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Like I bite the hand
that feeds.

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- No, it's all right. I've already...
- This here's a gall.

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Look at the size of it.
Ain't never seen

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no gall that big.
Bigger than the heart.

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That your cows'?

180
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Look at them teeth.

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Black as night. Here.

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Hoof, all turned in
on itself.

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Half my calves born
with hooves like that.

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Tumor, I done
cut off the back a heifer.

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How'd ya like
that on your table?

186
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What am I looking for?

187
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You blind, boy?

188
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Stones as white
as the hairs on my head.

189
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Bleached! That's chemicals,
I'm telling ya.

190
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My animals drink this water.
Cool off in 'er.

191
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Get them bloody welts,
them dead eyes.

192
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Charge at me, crazy-like.

193
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Animals that used to eat
out of my own hand.

194
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Where are
the rest of them?

195
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Come on.

196
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Beginnin', I'd bury 'em.
Each one. They're family.

197
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It got to be so many,
pile 'em up, set fire to...

198
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How many did you lose?

199
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190.

200
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190 cows?

201
00:16:06,736 --> 00:16:08,655
You tell me
nothing's wrong here.

202
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And this landfill
wasn't always here?

203
00:16:20,584 --> 00:16:24,963
No. My brother Jim used to dig
ditches over at the DuPont plant.

204
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Got sick, couldn't
do it no more.

205
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One day they come to him, offering
to buy his land right up that holler.

206
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They promised no chemicals.

207
00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:37,017
And I assume you
reached out to DuPont?

208
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DuPont, the State,
the Feds.

209
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I called everybody
there is dozens of times.

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- EPA finally comes out here.
- Oh, they did.

211
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- All for some report.
- What did it say?

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You think they're
gonna show me?

213
00:17:15,263 --> 00:17:16,431
Okay.

214
00:17:20,602 --> 00:17:24,856
He's been like this all day.
Okay. Go on.

215
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Of course, you're
a perfect angel for Daddy.

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- Did you get the tile?
- Um, I'm sorry. No.

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00:17:39,371 --> 00:17:40,455
Rob.

218
00:17:42,666 --> 00:17:44,334
I didn't drive into town today.
I'm sorry.

219
00:17:45,293 --> 00:17:47,462
What do you mean
you didn't drive into town?

220
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I had to go
to Parkersburg.

221
00:17:50,882 --> 00:17:53,260
Parkersburg? Why'd you
have to go to Parkersburg?

222
00:17:54,636 --> 00:17:56,638
I may have a client there.

223
00:17:57,472 --> 00:18:00,517
In West Virginia? What kind
of a case would you have?

224
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He's a farmer. He knows
my Grammer. Not well, but...

225
00:18:05,146 --> 00:18:09,067
So, you saw her?
Was your mother there?

226
00:18:09,150 --> 00:18:12,404
Oh, come on, Sarah. I didn't
sneak off to see my mother.

227
00:18:13,321 --> 00:18:15,657
- So, why did you sneak off?
- I didn't.

228
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Our speaker tonight's no
Stranger to the Taft family.

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Phillip Donnelly,
Phil to us,

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serves as in-house
Corporate Counsel at DuPont.

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Not only one of America's most
revered chemical companies,

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but one of the few
giants of the industry

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- that Taft doesn't represent.
- Not yet anyway!

234
00:18:40,724 --> 00:18:42,892
That's the spirit, James.

235
00:18:44,102 --> 00:18:47,647
We asked Phil here tonight,
not just to show him what he's missing,

236
00:18:48,023 --> 00:18:51,276
but to hear how a renowned
leader of our industry

237
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stays that way.
Please welcome Phil Donnelly.

238
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- Wish me luck.
- Go get 'em, Phil!

239
00:19:01,453 --> 00:19:02,454
Thank you.

240
00:19:02,537 --> 00:19:06,041
At DuPont, we're not producing
chemicals for chemical's sake.

241
00:19:06,124 --> 00:19:07,876
We're producing them
for people's sake.

242
00:19:08,126 --> 00:19:10,503
To make folks' lives easier.

243
00:19:10,962 --> 00:19:13,048
Happier, longer.

244
00:19:14,382 --> 00:19:18,595
That's why better living
through chemistry

245
00:19:19,429 --> 00:19:21,473
is not just
a slogan at DuPont.

246
00:19:23,058 --> 00:19:24,643
It's our DNA.

247
00:19:29,731 --> 00:19:31,566
- Hey, Rob.
- Hello, Phil.

248
00:19:31,691 --> 00:19:34,069
- Is it true what Tom tells me?
- Yeah, it's true.

249
00:19:34,152 --> 00:19:36,404
- Well, good on them. They're lucky to have you.
- Thanks, Phil.

250
00:19:36,696 --> 00:19:38,448
Like I always tell
my younger associates,

251
00:19:38,531 --> 00:19:40,784
just keep your head down
and do the work.

252
00:19:40,867 --> 00:19:45,038
Thanks. Uh, Phil, can I ask
you sort of an odd question?

253
00:19:45,246 --> 00:19:46,456
Shoot.

254
00:19:46,623 --> 00:19:49,125
Does the name
Wilbur Tennant ring a bell?

255
00:19:50,377 --> 00:19:52,212
- Tennet, did you say?
- Tennant.

256
00:19:52,754 --> 00:19:54,047
No. Not that I recall.

257
00:19:54,130 --> 00:19:56,758
Mr. Tennant's a farmer
from West Virginia.

258
00:19:56,841 --> 00:20:00,053
His property abuts one of
your landfills, Dry Run.

259
00:20:00,136 --> 00:20:01,805
And his cows
have been getting sick.

260
00:20:01,888 --> 00:20:05,975
He thinks possibly because of the
runoff from the landfill into his creek.

261
00:20:06,059 --> 00:20:07,811
You're kidding me.
How did this come to you?

262
00:20:07,894 --> 00:20:11,064
- Hey, Phil!
- He's a farmer. He's...

263
00:20:12,023 --> 00:20:14,067
My grandmother's
from Parkersburg.

264
00:20:14,150 --> 00:20:16,236
Really? Washington Works.
Great plant.

265
00:20:16,361 --> 00:20:18,863
- Right. She knows the Tennants.
- So Grandma's on your back?

266
00:20:18,947 --> 00:20:20,699
Something like that.
Anyway, uh...

267
00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:25,537
The farmer said the EPA came out,
took a look around. I wondered...

268
00:20:25,704 --> 00:20:27,580
- The name of the landfill again?
- Dry Run.

269
00:20:28,039 --> 00:20:29,708
Dry Run. Dry...

270
00:20:30,041 --> 00:20:32,001
You know, that does ring a
bell, now that you mention it.

271
00:20:32,085 --> 00:20:33,920
We may have even sent
some folks out there.

272
00:20:34,170 --> 00:20:36,131
If I remember correctly,
help EPA check it out.

273
00:20:36,214 --> 00:20:39,467
That's gotta be it.
So, I'd love to share whatever came of that

274
00:20:39,551 --> 00:20:41,594
with Mr. Tennant.
Help settle his nerves.

275
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,514
Absolutely. Soon as I'm back in
Wilmington, I'll take a look.

276
00:20:44,639 --> 00:20:47,475
- Thanks, Phil. I really appreciate it.
- Happy to do it.

277
00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:50,937
Now, let's get a drink and
toast you, my friend. You.

278
00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:53,022
Okay.

279
00:21:01,197 --> 00:21:02,449
Mr. Tennant!

280
00:21:10,123 --> 00:21:13,001
Mr. Tennant,
I have the report.

281
00:21:15,336 --> 00:21:18,381
Sons of bitches!
Who the hell they think they are?

282
00:21:19,174 --> 00:21:21,176
- Who gives them the right?
- It's an evaluation.

283
00:21:21,259 --> 00:21:24,053
Evalu, Hatchet
job's what it is.

284
00:21:25,054 --> 00:21:28,224
I been farming my
entire life. Entire life!

285
00:21:28,641 --> 00:21:31,519
You read that. You tell me
you recognize my farm.

286
00:21:31,603 --> 00:21:33,062
- Mr. Tennant...
- Read it!

287
00:21:36,441 --> 00:21:38,985
"The herd health
investigation revealed

288
00:21:39,068 --> 00:21:41,362
"deficiency
in herd management.

289
00:21:42,071 --> 00:21:44,657
"Including poor nutrition,

290
00:21:45,283 --> 00:21:49,871
"inadequate veterinary care
and lack of fly control."

291
00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:51,664
You see any flies here?

292
00:21:52,791 --> 00:21:53,875
It's snowing.

293
00:21:54,167 --> 00:21:56,336
Can't stop making excuses
for 'em, can you?

294
00:21:58,087 --> 00:22:00,924
It could be pests.
They consulted a vet.

295
00:22:01,174 --> 00:22:02,759
Whose vet? DuPont?

296
00:22:06,095 --> 00:22:09,808
Look at yourself. Swallowin' whole,
whatever they been feeding ya.

297
00:22:09,891 --> 00:22:11,142
Can't tell truth from lie.

298
00:22:13,603 --> 00:22:15,063
You even watch them tapes
I gave you?

299
00:22:15,146 --> 00:22:18,358
- Sir, I am trying to help!
- Quiet.

300
00:22:19,025 --> 00:22:21,444
- Trying to help.
- Stop movin'.

301
00:22:29,327 --> 00:22:31,496
Easy, now. Easy.

302
00:22:35,083 --> 00:22:37,460
Get in. Slow.

303
00:23:03,903 --> 00:23:05,196
Forgive me, girl.

304
00:23:29,554 --> 00:23:31,014
Jesus.

305
00:24:25,902 --> 00:24:27,779
Need something to
warm you up right about now?

306
00:24:28,529 --> 00:24:30,531
Well, how about this?

307
00:24:34,327 --> 00:24:39,040
Almost heaven, West Virginia

308
00:24:40,083 --> 00:24:45,922
Blue Ridge Mountains,
Shenandoah River

309
00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:52,303
Life is old there,
older than the trees

310
00:24:52,428 --> 00:24:57,475
Younger than the mountains
Blowing like the breeze

311
00:24:57,642 --> 00:25:03,022
Country roads, take me home

312
00:25:03,398 --> 00:25:06,109
To the place...

313
00:25:06,442 --> 00:25:09,153
I belong

314
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,990
West Virginia...

315
00:25:12,198 --> 00:25:14,867
mountain mama

316
00:25:15,159 --> 00:25:17,286
Take me home...

317
00:25:17,495 --> 00:25:22,458
...this cow's eyes are cloudy
with pink eyes is what they'll call it.

318
00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:25,128
Anyway, her eyes are sunk
way back in her head.

319
00:25:25,878 --> 00:25:29,007
She's poor as a whippoorwill.

320
00:25:30,758 --> 00:25:35,430
And I'm gonna cut her open and
find out what caused her to die.

321
00:25:36,139 --> 00:25:37,932
Because I was feeding
her enough feed...

322
00:25:38,016 --> 00:25:40,393
that she should've gained
weight instead of losin' weight.

323
00:25:41,436 --> 00:25:43,062
This is what
her teeth looks like.

324
00:25:45,648 --> 00:25:47,650
That's the upper one.

325
00:25:47,817 --> 00:25:52,405
But this one here, I've never seen
anything like it in my lifetime.

326
00:25:53,781 --> 00:25:55,199
Even the veterinarian,
he admitted...

327
00:25:55,283 --> 00:25:58,870
he never saw anything like
this before in his life either.

328
00:26:08,755 --> 00:26:13,301
So, what are you
proposing we do?

329
00:26:13,468 --> 00:26:17,972
File a claim, trigger discovery and
find out what's in that landfill.

330
00:26:18,931 --> 00:26:20,975
- You wanna sue DuPont?
- Targeted.

331
00:26:22,101 --> 00:26:25,688
- Property dispute. Routine stuff.
- Not routine. Not around here.

332
00:26:25,772 --> 00:26:28,357
I know, but, Tom,
if you'd actually seen it.

333
00:26:28,441 --> 00:26:32,528
His farm is like a graveyard.
There's something very wrong.

334
00:26:32,612 --> 00:26:35,198
So, he should
hire a local lawyer.

335
00:26:35,281 --> 00:26:38,117
None of them will do it.
They're all terrified of DuPont.

336
00:26:38,242 --> 00:26:40,411
- Well, what does that tell you?
- We know DuPont.

337
00:26:41,162 --> 00:26:42,705
They're gonna wanna hear

338
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:45,458
if some of their local guys
are screwing something up.

339
00:26:45,541 --> 00:26:48,544
Oh, so they're gonna
thank us for suing.

340
00:26:48,628 --> 00:26:50,171
Better us than the EPA.

341
00:26:50,421 --> 00:26:52,924
I mean, new partners are supposed
to bring in business, right?

342
00:26:53,007 --> 00:26:55,426
So, your farmer
can swing 275 an hour?

343
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:57,428
It'd be on contingency.

344
00:26:58,012 --> 00:27:01,057
Jesus. What are we,
coupon chasers now?

345
00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:04,894
It's a small matter for a family friend.
I'll get in and I'll get out.

346
00:27:06,104 --> 00:27:09,649
- Help a guy that needs it.
- Who? The farmer or you?

347
00:27:30,086 --> 00:27:32,004
Surgical. You hear me?

348
00:27:32,088 --> 00:27:33,422
Absolutely. Thank you.

349
00:27:35,925 --> 00:27:38,761
Come on, Rob.
Of course, I'm gonna take your call.

350
00:27:39,011 --> 00:27:41,764
Even though, I was,
I admit, a little surprised.

351
00:27:42,056 --> 00:27:44,267
I mean, getting
sued by Taft Law.

352
00:27:45,101 --> 00:27:47,812
It's not every day.
Or any day, frankly.

353
00:27:47,979 --> 00:27:49,313
I know. I'm sorry.

354
00:27:49,397 --> 00:27:52,900
Look, you and I are friends.
This is a minor issue.

355
00:27:52,984 --> 00:27:55,194
No reason it
should get messy.

356
00:27:55,278 --> 00:27:59,115
Thank you. I totally agree.
Yeah, I'm putting you on speaker phone.

357
00:28:01,159 --> 00:28:04,412
So, you wanna know
if we violated our permits.

358
00:28:04,704 --> 00:28:05,746
Pretty much, yeah.

359
00:28:06,372 --> 00:28:09,000
Okay, then. I'll have our
guys send over anything...

360
00:28:09,083 --> 00:28:11,419
related to hazardous wastes
at Dry Run.

361
00:28:11,502 --> 00:28:14,672
And I'll tell them to hurry
it up this time. How's that?

362
00:28:14,755 --> 00:28:18,301
- Thank you. That sounds great.
- And don't stress. I forgive you.

363
00:28:18,676 --> 00:28:19,719
Thanks, Phil.

364
00:28:41,824 --> 00:28:43,284
You took your baby
into the office?

365
00:28:43,367 --> 00:28:46,454
- I needed a bigger trunk.
- Why?

366
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,582
Discovery for the Tennant
case came in today.

367
00:28:49,665 --> 00:28:54,670
Oh. Oh, you started before me.
You're so fast! Whoa.

368
00:28:54,754 --> 00:28:56,547
Good boy.

369
00:28:56,631 --> 00:28:58,549
Rob's missing
such a lovely day.

370
00:28:59,508 --> 00:29:02,678
Law's a jealous mistress, Mom.
Means it comes with the territory.

371
00:29:02,762 --> 00:29:04,096
Let's go over here!

372
00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:07,350
Nice! Thank you!
That's what I'm talking about right there.

373
00:29:11,270 --> 00:29:13,064
All right. Let's go. One more.
One more. All right.

374
00:29:32,166 --> 00:29:33,292
Poly...

375
00:29:33,459 --> 00:29:34,627
Is that...

376
00:29:51,435 --> 00:29:52,937
No.

377
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,155
- How's my favorite plaintiff's attorney?
- Hey, help me out, will ya?

378
00:30:03,239 --> 00:30:05,616
You're a run of a mill
dump, nothing but trash.

379
00:30:05,783 --> 00:30:07,285
You sound like
my first girlfriend.

380
00:30:08,786 --> 00:30:12,999
Why a requisition order
for 55-gallon containers?

381
00:30:13,374 --> 00:30:15,668
Conspiracy.
Standard size drums.

382
00:30:15,751 --> 00:30:20,798
Ash, ash-byproduct, glass tubing,
plastic, paper waste. It's just trash.

383
00:30:20,965 --> 00:30:23,843
You pile it onto a truck, drive it away.
You don't pack it into drums.

384
00:30:23,968 --> 00:30:26,345
- So, they've got liquid waste.
- Not hazardous.

385
00:30:26,804 --> 00:30:30,141
Or they'd have to disclose it.
So, what is killing these cows?

386
00:30:30,308 --> 00:30:32,727
- It's not paper and ash.
- Well, maybe it's human error.

387
00:30:32,893 --> 00:30:35,146
They're dumping something in
there they don't know is toxic.

388
00:30:35,604 --> 00:30:39,567
Kim, it's DuPont. They know
more than the EPA does.

389
00:30:39,734 --> 00:30:41,652
Everyone knows more
than the EPA does.

390
00:30:41,819 --> 00:30:43,779
Why else would they
let us regulate ourselves?

391
00:30:46,115 --> 00:30:48,868
- What?
- Do we?

392
00:30:49,076 --> 00:30:50,494
Do we what?

393
00:30:51,787 --> 00:30:54,874
The EPA only started
regulating chemicals in '76.

394
00:30:54,957 --> 00:30:56,000
Yeah?

395
00:30:56,083 --> 00:30:59,670
They grandfather in every
existing chemical, non-hazardous,

396
00:30:59,754 --> 00:31:03,716
unless they knew it was hazardous
or a company told them it was.

397
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,510
- We're saying the same thing.
- No, we're not. I'm saying

398
00:31:06,594 --> 00:31:10,097
what if
a company didn't tell?

399
00:31:11,807 --> 00:31:13,517
What if

400
00:31:13,601 --> 00:31:17,396
the reason Phil Donnelly agreed
to discovery on hazardous

401
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,106
is because he knows

402
00:31:19,732 --> 00:31:22,818
whatever's in that landfill
isn't even regulated?

403
00:31:23,194 --> 00:31:25,946
Okay, now you are sounding
like a plaintiff's attorney.

404
00:31:26,530 --> 00:31:29,158
- I've got a meeting.
- Hey, oh, wait, one second.

405
00:31:29,367 --> 00:31:33,162
Have you heard of this,
um, PFOA?

406
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,206
No.

407
00:31:35,414 --> 00:31:38,709
You know, it's mentioned here,
but I can't find anything about it

408
00:31:38,793 --> 00:31:41,253
in any of the literature.
I don't even know if it's a chemical.

409
00:31:41,837 --> 00:31:44,840
- Ask Phil.
- Well, thank you.

410
00:31:45,508 --> 00:31:48,135
As I said,
Mr. Donnelly is still out of town.

411
00:31:48,302 --> 00:31:51,889
I called last week and left two messages
and haven't heard back from him.

412
00:31:51,972 --> 00:31:53,808
I'll be sure to tell him
that you called again.

413
00:31:53,891 --> 00:31:55,559
Okay. Damn it.

414
00:31:56,852 --> 00:31:59,313
- Your tickets to the Chemical Alliance dinner.
- Argh...

415
00:31:59,647 --> 00:32:02,441
And, no, dark suit is not
the same as black tie.

416
00:32:04,026 --> 00:32:05,111
Wouldn't he be going?

417
00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:39,019
I don't know if Rob told you,
but I was a receptionist at Taft

418
00:32:39,103 --> 00:32:40,604
- before law school.
- Is that right?

419
00:32:40,688 --> 00:32:42,648
But well, I think the
right Bilott ended up there.

420
00:32:42,731 --> 00:32:44,400
Harold, you're not
getting away from me.

421
00:32:44,483 --> 00:32:46,360
- Would you excuse me?
- Sure, it was...

422
00:32:46,444 --> 00:32:48,821
- It's great to see you.
- When is the...

423
00:32:48,904 --> 00:32:50,865
That's funny.

424
00:32:51,615 --> 00:32:54,326
Right away, I saw a little
of myself in Rob.

425
00:32:54,493 --> 00:32:56,620
- Oh!
- One black sheep to another.

426
00:32:56,787 --> 00:32:59,081
- My dad was a steel worker, you know.
- Was he?

427
00:32:59,248 --> 00:33:01,167
Have you seen Phil?

428
00:33:01,709 --> 00:33:03,210
No.

429
00:33:03,502 --> 00:33:06,881
- So, you're an attorney?
- Oh, recovering.

430
00:33:07,173 --> 00:33:09,675
I represented employers
in workmen's comp disputes.

431
00:33:09,758 --> 00:33:12,011
But now, I stay at home
with our baby.

432
00:33:12,344 --> 00:33:14,889
Well, that's the thing
with lady lawyers.

433
00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:17,141
I wanna say hi to the Dow folks.
Have you seen them?

434
00:33:17,224 --> 00:33:18,642
No, I've been looking
for Phil.

435
00:33:18,726 --> 00:33:20,144
Did I tell you they
sent me some work?

436
00:33:20,311 --> 00:33:23,772
- Dow? That's great!
- Just a small project. Like a try-out.

437
00:33:23,856 --> 00:33:27,151
But if I impress them,
can you imagine if I brought on Dow?

438
00:33:27,234 --> 00:33:29,778
None for me, thank you.

439
00:33:30,863 --> 00:33:31,906
You're not...

440
00:33:34,074 --> 00:33:35,075
I'm, uh...

441
00:33:36,327 --> 00:33:38,245
You're... She's...

442
00:33:38,329 --> 00:33:39,997
I'm...

443
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,958
I'm gonna wait as long as I can
to tell the firm. Obviously.

444
00:33:43,042 --> 00:33:44,627
Would you excuse
us for a moment?

445
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:46,795
These lady lawyers
need a quick sidebar.

446
00:33:46,879 --> 00:33:48,255
- Of course.
- No. No.

447
00:33:48,339 --> 00:33:50,424
- He signs your paycheck. Be nice to him.
- Don't leave me.

448
00:33:52,968 --> 00:33:55,387
- Congratulations.
- I know. I can't believe it.

449
00:34:01,310 --> 00:34:02,394
Excuse me.

450
00:34:12,112 --> 00:34:13,322
Rob, how are you?

451
00:34:13,405 --> 00:34:14,740
Phil, I've been
trying to reach you.

452
00:34:14,823 --> 00:34:16,659
So sorry, all this traveling.
How about I give you a shout tomorrow?

453
00:34:16,742 --> 00:34:18,536
We're gonna need to broaden
discovery to everything

454
00:34:18,619 --> 00:34:20,371
in that landfill,
hazardous or not.

455
00:34:24,542 --> 00:34:25,584
Excuse me.

456
00:34:26,669 --> 00:34:28,045
You kidding me?

457
00:34:28,128 --> 00:34:29,129
No.

458
00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:33,801
I think whatever's causing
the problems in there

459
00:34:33,884 --> 00:34:36,971
isn't something the EPA
regulates or knows to regulate.

460
00:34:37,596 --> 00:34:38,597
Sorry?

461
00:34:38,681 --> 00:34:42,017
I'm seeing things in your
documents I don't understand.

462
00:34:42,101 --> 00:34:44,311
You're seeing ghosts,
is what you're seeing, and frankly,

463
00:34:44,395 --> 00:34:45,729
you're making an
ass of yourself.

464
00:34:45,813 --> 00:34:47,481
Okay, then,
help me out.

465
00:34:47,565 --> 00:34:48,816
I mean, like this.

466
00:34:48,899 --> 00:34:52,152
I mean, what is
this PFOA?

467
00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:54,488
What's that stand for?

468
00:34:56,323 --> 00:34:57,616
Jesus.

469
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:59,994
You're on a goddamn
fishing expedition.

470
00:35:00,619 --> 00:35:03,080
You wanna flush your
career down the toilet

471
00:35:03,163 --> 00:35:04,206
for some cowhand?

472
00:35:04,290 --> 00:35:05,874
Be my guest. I'm
done helping you.

473
00:35:05,958 --> 00:35:08,419
Phil, I need to insist
on broadening discovery.

474
00:35:08,752 --> 00:35:09,795
- Sue me!
- Uh...

475
00:35:10,879 --> 00:35:11,922
I'm already suing you.

476
00:35:12,006 --> 00:35:13,215
Welcome, everyone,

477
00:35:13,299 --> 00:35:16,760
to the 14th Annual Ohio
Chemical Alliance...

478
00:35:16,844 --> 00:35:18,470
- Fuck you!
- ...awards dinner.

479
00:35:21,473 --> 00:35:22,516
Hick!

480
00:35:25,978 --> 00:35:28,981
So, let's
get the fun started!

481
00:35:49,918 --> 00:35:51,503
I'm sorry.

482
00:35:51,587 --> 00:35:53,547
You're not the only
one who's sacrificed.

483
00:35:59,928 --> 00:36:02,056
I just hope you know what you're doing.

484
00:36:08,729 --> 00:36:10,898
You know the difference between
business and pleasure, right?

485
00:36:10,981 --> 00:36:14,610
So, why on earth would you
engage in business conversations

486
00:36:14,693 --> 00:36:16,612
- at a public function?
- Tom!

487
00:36:17,404 --> 00:36:19,948
He's hiding something.
You saw his reaction.

488
00:36:20,032 --> 00:36:21,825
Yeah, me and everyone
in that room.

489
00:36:21,909 --> 00:36:23,786
Taft in a pissing
match with DuPont.

490
00:36:23,869 --> 00:36:25,788
I am gonna get a court
order and force them

491
00:36:25,871 --> 00:36:27,164
to tell me everything
that's in that landfill.

492
00:36:27,247 --> 00:36:29,583
Jesus Christ! Now you wanna
actually take them to court.

493
00:36:29,667 --> 00:36:31,710
And I'm gonna need local
counsel in West Virginia.

494
00:36:31,794 --> 00:36:33,379
What happened
to routine stuff?

495
00:36:33,462 --> 00:36:35,339
- Ask Phil Donnelly.
- God!

496
00:36:36,256 --> 00:36:37,508
Of course,
I remember you.

497
00:36:38,801 --> 00:36:41,095
Yeah, last time I saw you,
I think Phil Donnelly was

498
00:36:41,178 --> 00:36:43,472
trying to get you to go
out on the links with us.

499
00:36:43,555 --> 00:36:44,598
Yeah.

500
00:36:47,476 --> 00:36:48,519
You what?

501
00:37:02,408 --> 00:37:03,701
- Sir.
- Thank you.

502
00:37:09,998 --> 00:37:10,999
Good morning.

503
00:37:14,545 --> 00:37:15,921
- Good morning, Larry.
- Morning.

504
00:37:22,761 --> 00:37:23,762
Morning, Miss Claire.

505
00:37:25,055 --> 00:37:26,724
Don't you look nice.

506
00:37:26,807 --> 00:37:28,225
Save it for the
judge, Mr. Winter.

507
00:37:32,479 --> 00:37:34,982
You're suing DuPont.

508
00:37:37,025 --> 00:37:38,068
Yes, ma'am.

509
00:37:38,694 --> 00:37:40,446
You represent DuPont.

510
00:37:40,529 --> 00:37:41,530
My old firm did.

511
00:37:42,531 --> 00:37:43,866
I've been out on
my own for a while.

512
00:37:45,659 --> 00:37:46,910
Good luck with that.

513
00:37:51,457 --> 00:37:53,834
Just wanted to
let you know personally

514
00:37:53,917 --> 00:37:57,254
that your court-ordered
discovery is on the way.

515
00:37:57,337 --> 00:37:58,922
Thanks, Phil.

516
00:37:59,006 --> 00:38:01,091
No, it's my pleasure.

517
00:38:03,427 --> 00:38:04,511
Discovery.

518
00:38:20,402 --> 00:38:21,987
Son of a bitch.

519
00:38:22,070 --> 00:38:24,406
No admission
of liability.

520
00:38:25,282 --> 00:38:26,950
And non...

521
00:38:29,369 --> 00:38:31,830
Non-disclosure of
any and all terms.

522
00:38:33,624 --> 00:38:34,750
Pardon me a moment.

523
00:38:50,015 --> 00:38:51,225
Thanks.

524
00:38:52,059 --> 00:38:53,936
Holy Jesus!

525
00:38:54,978 --> 00:38:56,313
- What in the...
- Thanks.

526
00:38:58,148 --> 00:38:59,358
...world?

527
00:38:59,441 --> 00:39:01,527
I guess the
joke's on me.

528
00:39:01,610 --> 00:39:02,611
Yeah.

529
00:39:04,071 --> 00:39:05,864
No one can go through all this crap.
Not in a million years.

530
00:39:05,948 --> 00:39:07,950
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's
what they're banking on.

531
00:39:10,619 --> 00:39:12,746
- Oh, God! Damn it!
- Oh, God, Rob!

532
00:39:18,126 --> 00:39:21,213
- Here, let me...
- No, no, no, you shouldn't be around this stuff.

533
00:39:22,548 --> 00:39:25,467
- You sure?
- I'm positive. Thank you, though.

534
00:39:26,218 --> 00:39:27,261
Yeah.

535
00:39:28,762 --> 00:39:29,805
Good luck.

536
00:39:51,326 --> 00:39:52,786
1957.

537
00:40:57,351 --> 00:40:59,353
Hey, Sally,
what is the hold up back here?

538
00:41:02,147 --> 00:41:03,565
- Hey, Bobby. How you...
- What're you having?

539
00:41:06,026 --> 00:41:07,027
Usual.

540
00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:10,530
Eggs over bacon
and grits.

541
00:41:12,157 --> 00:41:13,200
Same.

542
00:41:18,163 --> 00:41:20,123
I need two over,
grits, fried.

543
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,926
Wilbur Tennant.

544
00:41:31,343 --> 00:41:33,428
He's not in his office.
Can I take a message?

545
00:41:33,512 --> 00:41:36,014
- I been leaving messages.
- I know, Mr. Tennant,

546
00:41:36,098 --> 00:41:38,183
but he really can't get
to the phone right now.

547
00:41:38,266 --> 00:41:39,559
I want service!

548
00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:41,436
I'll let him know that you called again.
For Christ's sakes.

549
00:41:44,856 --> 00:41:47,317
Is she getting accustomed
to being at Mom and Dad's?

550
00:41:47,401 --> 00:41:49,152
You know Grammer.
She misses her own house.

551
00:41:49,236 --> 00:41:51,655
- What?
- She misses her own house.

552
00:41:52,489 --> 00:41:54,032
I have a bad cell.

553
00:41:54,116 --> 00:41:56,368
I said Grammer
misses her own house.

554
00:41:56,451 --> 00:41:57,911
Okay, can you...

555
00:41:58,328 --> 00:41:59,621
Can I talk to her?

556
00:41:59,705 --> 00:42:00,956
She and Mom
are at the doctor's.

557
00:42:01,665 --> 00:42:04,334
- Will you tell Grammers I called?
- Rob, you're breaking up.

558
00:42:04,418 --> 00:42:05,502
And Mom too?

559
00:42:05,585 --> 00:42:07,129
- Let's try again on Sunday.
- All right.

560
00:42:15,929 --> 00:42:17,180
"C-8."

561
00:42:23,437 --> 00:42:25,772
You know you look like
a crazy person, right?

562
00:42:25,856 --> 00:42:28,233
What was the name of that guy
that you brought by the...

563
00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:31,987
- What guy?
- The chemistry expert.

564
00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:33,864
- The guy who does the models.
- Gillespie.

565
00:42:37,034 --> 00:42:38,035
Here you go.

566
00:42:39,036 --> 00:42:40,037
Thank you.

567
00:42:40,454 --> 00:42:42,205
Kim Burke
had an expense account.

568
00:42:42,831 --> 00:42:45,125
Oh, sorry. It's not
that kind of case.

569
00:42:45,876 --> 00:42:50,005
Are you familiar
with something called PFOA?

570
00:42:51,715 --> 00:42:52,758
No.

571
00:42:55,427 --> 00:42:56,762
- No.
- No.

572
00:42:57,429 --> 00:43:01,975
I did read something recently
about a PFOS, I think it was.

573
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,062
- That sounds related.
- And what was that?

574
00:43:05,687 --> 00:43:08,648
Long-chain fluorocarbon,
synthetic.

575
00:43:09,775 --> 00:43:13,070
I'm sorry. Chemistry was
my worst class in high school.

576
00:43:13,987 --> 00:43:15,489
Boy, you in the wrong
line of work.

577
00:43:15,572 --> 00:43:17,949
Tell me about it. So?

578
00:43:18,366 --> 00:43:20,827
So, synthetic. All right?
Man-made.

579
00:43:21,912 --> 00:43:23,038
Frankenstein.

580
00:43:23,830 --> 00:43:24,915
And?

581
00:43:25,624 --> 00:43:29,711
Long-chain fluorocarbon is a sequence
of carbon atoms, add a fluoride.

582
00:43:30,962 --> 00:43:34,758
- All right. In the lab you take a carbon atom...
- Mmm-hmm.

583
00:43:34,841 --> 00:43:38,011
...and then you add
another carbon atom.

584
00:43:38,553 --> 00:43:39,554
And then another

585
00:43:40,388 --> 00:43:42,015
and another... Look.

586
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,353
You're making a chain. Right?

587
00:43:49,231 --> 00:43:51,233
- Right?
- Could it be...

588
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:54,111
Eight? Eight carbons?

589
00:43:54,194 --> 00:43:56,738
Well, sure. Yeah, In the lab
you can do almost anything.

590
00:43:57,447 --> 00:44:00,659
And why would you want to?
Make this, I mean.

591
00:44:02,702 --> 00:44:06,373
Well, a chain like that's pretty much
unbreakable, biochemically speaking.

592
00:44:06,456 --> 00:44:09,376
So, uh, industrial uses,
I imagine.

593
00:44:10,210 --> 00:44:11,628
3M made it.

594
00:44:12,129 --> 00:44:14,214
They don't anymore.
That's what I read.

595
00:44:14,756 --> 00:44:17,300
- Why did they stop?
- Didn't say.

596
00:44:19,761 --> 00:44:20,762
What if...

597
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:23,932
What if you drank it?

598
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,561
Drank it?

599
00:44:28,562 --> 00:44:30,230
- You don't.
- Well, what if you did?

600
00:44:30,772 --> 00:44:32,899
- Ready to order?
- Yeah, I think I'd like a...

601
00:44:34,025 --> 00:44:35,193
But what if you did?

602
00:44:36,528 --> 00:44:39,072
That's like saying,
"What if I swallowed a tire?"

603
00:44:40,699 --> 00:44:43,118
I don't know. You wanna be
the guy that finds out?

604
00:44:44,786 --> 00:44:45,787
Tuna melt.

605
00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:10,187
Let us all begin with
hymn number 452 in our hymnal books.

606
00:45:10,270 --> 00:45:13,231
"Here I Am, Lord."
Please rise.

607
00:45:16,484 --> 00:45:21,031
I, the Lord of sea and sky

608
00:45:21,114 --> 00:45:25,535
I have heard my people cry

609
00:45:26,036 --> 00:45:30,248
All who dwell in deepest sin

610
00:45:30,874 --> 00:45:34,211
My hand will save

611
00:45:36,463 --> 00:45:37,756
Does it makes sounds?

612
00:45:38,757 --> 00:45:40,175
Asteroid ahead.

613
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:43,303
You hold like that.

614
00:45:43,386 --> 00:45:45,555
Are you ready to blast off?

615
00:45:58,860 --> 00:46:00,737
I'm taking off that.

616
00:46:31,601 --> 00:46:32,978
You said it had fluoride?

617
00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:35,397
What?
Mr. Bilott, it's Sunday.

618
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,191
That chemical, you said
it had a fluoride atom.

619
00:46:39,734 --> 00:46:42,737
It's a fluorocarbon, so, yes.
Somewhere along the chain...

620
00:46:42,821 --> 00:46:45,198
What would it do to your
teeth if you drank it?

621
00:46:45,282 --> 00:46:47,367
Don't tell me if you
shouldn't, if you did.

622
00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:49,619
If you drank a lot of it,
what would it do to your teeth?

623
00:46:50,203 --> 00:46:52,497
Well, in trace amounts
fluoride hardens teeth.

624
00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:57,294
But too much, it's gonna stain 'em.
I mean, even turn 'em black.

625
00:46:58,795 --> 00:47:00,672
So, can I get back
to my family now?

626
00:47:05,302 --> 00:47:06,553
What? Where are you going?

627
00:47:06,970 --> 00:47:09,514
- It's in their water.
- What? What is?

628
00:47:47,177 --> 00:47:48,470
How long's
the coughing been?

629
00:47:50,096 --> 00:47:52,682
Couple...
Couple of months.

630
00:47:53,224 --> 00:47:54,225
A year.

631
00:47:54,684 --> 00:47:58,313
- You a smoker?
- No.

632
00:47:59,064 --> 00:48:00,565
Roll up your sleeve.
We're gonna take some blood.

633
00:48:15,580 --> 00:48:18,458
- Thought you left him inside.
- I did.

634
00:48:23,129 --> 00:48:24,381
Oh, baby.

635
00:48:34,182 --> 00:48:35,183
You move this?

636
00:48:36,142 --> 00:48:37,143
What?

637
00:48:37,227 --> 00:48:39,562
- Did you go through this?
- No!

638
00:48:44,692 --> 00:48:45,693
They been here.

639
00:48:47,529 --> 00:48:48,571
They been here!

640
00:49:17,434 --> 00:49:18,560
What happened?

641
00:49:20,395 --> 00:49:21,396
Wash up.

642
00:49:30,697 --> 00:49:31,739
Dad?

643
00:49:34,492 --> 00:49:35,535
- What is it?
- Quiet.

644
00:49:45,837 --> 00:49:49,132
This is my land,
damn you! You get out of here!

645
00:49:49,883 --> 00:49:50,925
Go on!

646
00:49:52,385 --> 00:49:53,511
Go on!

647
00:49:55,221 --> 00:49:59,058
Sandra, girls, get on!
Go on, get in! Get in!

648
00:50:01,144 --> 00:50:02,479
I know youl!

649
00:52:14,819 --> 00:52:15,862
Rob?

650
00:52:41,638 --> 00:52:45,058
- Holy crap, Rob!
- What?

651
00:52:45,141 --> 00:52:47,935
I thought someone was breaking
in, for God's sakes!

652
00:52:48,019 --> 00:52:49,479
No, it's just me.

653
00:52:49,562 --> 00:52:51,397
Rob, you need to tell me
what in the hell's going on.

654
00:52:54,776 --> 00:52:56,110
We're being poisoned.

655
00:52:58,988 --> 00:53:00,406
- Rob.
- What?

656
00:53:00,490 --> 00:53:04,160
I mean it.
DuPont is knowingly poisoning us.

657
00:53:04,243 --> 00:53:06,537
You mean the farmer.
His land.

658
00:53:07,372 --> 00:53:08,456
All of us.

659
00:53:10,708 --> 00:53:12,126
Please don't look at me
like that.

660
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:15,421
They're already poisoning
the baby.

661
00:53:17,256 --> 00:53:19,759
- No. I'm not listening to this.
- Sarah.

662
00:53:20,134 --> 00:53:21,761
Stop it!
Just stop it, okay?

663
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:25,431
Do you hear yourself?
You are acting like a crazy person.

664
00:53:25,515 --> 00:53:28,518
Tearing up our floor.
Scaring me half to death.

665
00:53:28,601 --> 00:53:31,229
I know it's my job to support
you, but that does not mean

666
00:53:31,312 --> 00:53:33,731
you get to come into our
home, to our family

667
00:53:33,815 --> 00:53:36,734
and tell me that our unborn
child is being poisoned. No!

668
00:53:36,818 --> 00:53:39,278
I'm sorry.
Can I please explain?

669
00:53:39,362 --> 00:53:41,114
- Explain what?
- All of it.

670
00:53:41,906 --> 00:53:45,993
And if you still think I'm crazy,
I'll drop it. I swear to God.

671
00:53:48,663 --> 00:53:49,872
I swear to you.

672
00:54:06,389 --> 00:54:08,349
There is a man-made
chemical

673
00:54:10,184 --> 00:54:12,603
that was invented
during the Manhattan project.

674
00:54:13,646 --> 00:54:16,149
It repelled the elements,
especially water.

675
00:54:16,774 --> 00:54:21,112
So they used it to make the first
ever waterproof coating for tanks.

676
00:54:21,195 --> 00:54:22,572
It was indestructible.

677
00:54:22,655 --> 00:54:26,743
Then some companies thought,
"Hey, why just the battlefield?

678
00:54:26,826 --> 00:54:30,705
"Why not bring this chemical
into American homes?"

679
00:54:30,913 --> 00:54:32,373
- Rob's here.
- All right. Good.

680
00:54:33,291 --> 00:54:34,292
He'll see you now.

681
00:54:38,296 --> 00:54:40,089
DuPont was one
of those companies.

682
00:54:41,841 --> 00:54:44,385
So they took
this chemical, PFOA.

683
00:54:45,178 --> 00:54:46,846
They renamed it C-8.

684
00:54:47,847 --> 00:54:50,516
And they made their own
impenetrable coating,

685
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,227
but not for tanks. For pans.

686
00:54:54,854 --> 00:54:56,606
They called it Teflon.

687
00:54:57,190 --> 00:55:00,610
A shining symbol
of American ingenuity,

688
00:55:00,693 --> 00:55:02,904
made right here in the USA,

689
00:55:02,987 --> 00:55:05,072
in Parkersburg, West Virginia.

690
00:55:06,991 --> 00:55:09,202
But right from the start,
something wasn't right.

691
00:55:09,911 --> 00:55:13,080
The men, and workers
who made Teflon

692
00:55:13,164 --> 00:55:15,666
were coming down
with nausea, fevers.

693
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:17,168
DuPont wanted to know why.

694
00:55:17,835 --> 00:55:20,505
So they laced cigarettes
with Teflon.

695
00:55:20,588 --> 00:55:23,090
They told a group of their
workers, "Hey, smoke these."

696
00:55:23,883 --> 00:55:25,718
DuPonters did
as they were told.

697
00:55:27,261 --> 00:55:29,305
Almost all of those men
were hospitalized.

698
00:55:33,893 --> 00:55:35,436
That's 1962.

699
00:55:35,978 --> 00:55:39,941
One year after Teflon launched
and already DuPont knew.

700
00:55:40,566 --> 00:55:44,237
The dust, they just sent right up the
smoke stacks, released into the air.

701
00:55:45,029 --> 00:55:47,615
The sludge,
tossed it into the Ohio.

702
00:55:47,698 --> 00:55:51,911
Or, uh, packed into drums and
chucked it into the Chesapeake.

703
00:55:52,703 --> 00:55:54,872
But then their drums
started washing up.

704
00:55:55,373 --> 00:55:57,792
So, DuPont starts
digging ditches

705
00:55:57,875 --> 00:55:59,836
on the grounds
of the Washington Works plant.

706
00:55:59,919 --> 00:56:02,171
And in those pits,
they dumped

707
00:56:02,255 --> 00:56:05,842
thousands of tons
of toxic C-8 sludge and dust.

708
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:09,053
One of the men that they hired
to dig those ditches

709
00:56:09,136 --> 00:56:11,806
was Wilbur Tennant's
brother Jim.

710
00:56:12,682 --> 00:56:15,017
But they weren't the only ones
covering their tracks.

711
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,313
3M who pioneered these
chemicals for Scotchgard,

712
00:56:19,397 --> 00:56:20,773
they were testing them
on monkeys.

713
00:56:21,315 --> 00:56:22,733
Most of the monkeys died.

714
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:25,736
It wasn't like DuPont
didn't know that because

715
00:56:25,820 --> 00:56:28,155
they were doing
their own tests on rats.

716
00:56:29,031 --> 00:56:30,658
Watched their organs balloon.

717
00:56:31,909 --> 00:56:33,744
Now the rats
are getting cancers.

718
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:37,957
Tested them on pregnant rats
and watched them give birth

719
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,334
to pups
with deformed eyes.

720
00:56:41,043 --> 00:56:44,255
So, they yanked all the young
women off the Teflon line

721
00:56:44,755 --> 00:56:46,007
and never told them why.

722
00:56:50,344 --> 00:56:55,016
Sue Bailey's job was scrubbing
these huge steel vats

723
00:56:55,099 --> 00:56:58,144
where they held the liquid C-8.
She was pregnant.

724
00:56:58,603 --> 00:57:00,688
- I love you!
- Would you stop?

725
00:57:02,815 --> 00:57:07,194
She gave birth to a baby with
one nostril and a deformed eye.

726
00:57:07,278 --> 00:57:10,823
Remember how DuPont had seen
those deformities in the rats?

727
00:57:14,035 --> 00:57:15,578
Oh, God.
What about his eyes?

728
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,205
Blue. Just like all newborns.

729
00:57:18,289 --> 00:57:20,666
But they're normal,
the lids, the pupils?

730
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:24,211
Mr. Bilott, relax.
He's perfect.

731
00:57:25,004 --> 00:57:27,173
Hey. Hi, Charlie.

732
00:57:27,256 --> 00:57:29,842
So Sue goes to DuPont.

733
00:57:29,926 --> 00:57:32,678
She says, "Why did you pull me
off the Teflon line?

734
00:57:33,471 --> 00:57:38,100
"Did C-8 make my baby this
way?" "No," they tell her.

735
00:57:38,184 --> 00:57:42,521
Then all of her records from
her time at Teflon disappear.

736
00:57:42,605 --> 00:57:47,318
One year later,
they put all of the women back on Teflon

737
00:57:47,401 --> 00:57:50,154
and never say a thing.

738
00:57:56,786 --> 00:57:57,787
He's here.

739
00:58:02,041 --> 00:58:03,751
DuPont knew everything.

740
00:58:04,752 --> 00:58:08,214
They knew that the C-8
they put into the air

741
00:58:08,297 --> 00:58:10,299
and buried into the
ground for decades

742
00:58:10,383 --> 00:58:12,051
was causing cancers.

743
00:58:12,134 --> 00:58:15,888
They knew that their own workers
were getting these cancers.

744
00:58:15,972 --> 00:58:19,016
They knew that the consumers
too were being exposed

745
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:22,436
and not just in Teflon.
In paints,

746
00:58:22,895 --> 00:58:27,191
in fabrics, in,
uh, raincoats, boots.

747
00:58:28,818 --> 00:58:30,277
To this day...

748
00:58:32,321 --> 00:58:36,450
For 40 years you knew
C-8 was poison.

749
00:58:36,534 --> 00:58:39,954
You knew the "Happy Pan"
was a ticking time bomb.

750
00:58:40,538 --> 00:58:43,082
And you knew exactly why.

751
00:58:43,249 --> 00:58:45,501
Because C-8,
it stays in us forever.

752
00:58:45,668 --> 00:58:48,295
Our bodies are incapable
of breaking it down.

753
00:58:48,921 --> 00:58:53,175
And knowing all of this,
still you did nothing because

754
00:58:53,759 --> 00:58:56,012
doing something,

755
00:58:56,887 --> 00:58:59,849
"would essentially
put the long-term viability

756
00:58:59,932 --> 00:59:03,936
"of this product's segment
on the line."

757
00:59:06,689 --> 00:59:08,983
You were making
too much money.

758
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:13,112
One billion dollars a year just in
profits, just in Teflon.

759
00:59:14,405 --> 00:59:17,950
And so you pumped
millions more pounds

760
00:59:18,034 --> 00:59:21,203
of toxic C-8 into the air,
into the water

761
00:59:21,454 --> 00:59:24,457
so much so you could
actually see it foam.

762
00:59:25,291 --> 00:59:30,755
C-8 was everywhere. There was
nowhere left for you to contaminate.

763
00:59:34,884 --> 00:59:37,053
And that's when
they came to Jim.

764
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,348
They knew he was sick and needed
the money and they needed his land.

765
00:59:42,058 --> 00:59:45,186
And when they got it,
they dug up all the C-8

766
00:59:45,352 --> 00:59:48,147
from every single pit
at Washington Works.

767
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:51,567
Fourteen million pounds
of toxic C-8 sludge

768
00:59:51,776 --> 00:59:54,987
and they dumped it, again.
This time right up there.

769
00:59:55,154 --> 00:59:58,157
Steps from your creek,
from your house.

770
00:59:58,991 --> 01:00:02,119
That's what your cows
have been drinking, Earl.

771
01:00:06,499 --> 01:00:08,709
Put 'em behind bars.

772
01:00:08,793 --> 01:00:10,503
Whole damn lot of 'em,
right in jail.

773
01:00:10,669 --> 01:00:12,004
I understand, believe me.

774
01:00:12,088 --> 01:00:15,091
But this is a civil case.
The most we can hope for is damages.

775
01:00:15,216 --> 01:00:19,220
Don't want no money!
Whole damn world need...

776
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:28,562
- Needs to see what they done.
- You're right. They should.

777
01:00:30,147 --> 01:00:32,733
And it kills me
that they won't.

778
01:00:33,776 --> 01:00:36,362
But that would mean
going to trial

779
01:00:36,529 --> 01:00:38,948
and proving
that C-8 killed your cows.

780
01:00:39,115 --> 01:00:41,659
And every scientist who knows
anything about any of this

781
01:00:41,826 --> 01:00:43,828
already works
for these chemical companies.

782
01:00:43,953 --> 01:00:46,372
That's not an accident, Earl.

783
01:00:46,956 --> 01:00:52,128
Earl, these companies,
they have all the money all the time,

784
01:00:52,211 --> 01:00:53,671
and they'll use it. Trust me.

785
01:00:53,796 --> 01:00:55,548
I know. I was one of them.

786
01:00:57,007 --> 01:00:59,426
You're still one of 'em.

787
01:01:02,555 --> 01:01:06,809
You can't be serious.
You know what I put on the line here?

788
01:01:06,976 --> 01:01:10,146
You want a prize? Some medal
'cause for once in your life

789
01:01:10,229 --> 01:01:12,648
you took the side
of the little guy?

790
01:01:13,065 --> 01:01:16,318
Sorry, no prize. All you get is
your share of this blood money.

791
01:01:16,610 --> 01:01:19,446
- And you sleep real good tonight.
- Talk to your family.

792
01:01:19,905 --> 01:01:22,158
It ain't just my cows
was poisoned.

793
01:01:22,241 --> 01:01:24,410
What do you think
I fed my family on?

794
01:01:24,618 --> 01:01:27,746
Wilbur, please.

795
01:01:29,331 --> 01:01:31,500
Leave this place!

796
01:01:32,835 --> 01:01:36,589
Start over. Give your family
a fighting chance!

797
01:01:36,755 --> 01:01:38,757
Too late for that.

798
01:01:41,677 --> 01:01:44,013
We got it, Sandra and me.
The cancer.

799
01:01:45,723 --> 01:01:47,725
Surprise, surprise.

800
01:02:43,739 --> 01:02:45,491
In here.

801
01:02:51,538 --> 01:02:53,332
How'd it go?

802
01:02:55,501 --> 01:02:56,752
What's wrong?

803
01:02:57,586 --> 01:02:59,046
Rob?

804
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:00,881
Rob, what is it?

805
01:03:06,845 --> 01:03:08,555
What happened?
What happened?

806
01:03:09,181 --> 01:03:11,183
Oh, honey, honey, honey.

807
01:03:12,935 --> 01:03:15,354
You saw a man hurting
and

808
01:03:17,022 --> 01:03:19,441
you did the Christian thing.
You helped him.

809
01:03:19,942 --> 01:03:24,363
How? How?
Either he dies penniless

810
01:03:24,530 --> 01:03:27,491
or he lets DuPont just keep
pillaging his community.

811
01:03:27,574 --> 01:03:28,993
How is that helping?

812
01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:35,332
Gotta get some sleep.

813
01:03:47,052 --> 01:03:50,014
I can't believe a freaking case
settlement could shut this up.

814
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:55,352
Have you read their
confidentiality agreements?

815
01:03:56,228 --> 01:03:58,856
You've uncovered
a threat to the public.

816
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,692
This goes beyond lawyering.

817
01:04:01,775 --> 01:04:04,069
That's...
That's all I know is lawyering.

818
01:04:04,153 --> 01:04:06,405
Fine.
Then be the lawyer.

819
01:04:06,947 --> 01:04:08,449
You know DuPont
better than anyone.

820
01:04:08,615 --> 01:04:09,867
What haven't they thought of?

821
01:05:09,802 --> 01:05:11,762
God. Jesus,
Mary and Joseph.

822
01:05:12,262 --> 01:05:13,263
What is that?

823
01:05:13,347 --> 01:05:16,183
Uh, a memo
and 136 exhibits.

824
01:05:49,091 --> 01:05:51,009
Wil, Sandra,
this is your copy.

825
01:06:11,655 --> 01:06:15,325
The EPA announced a public hearing
into this family of chemicals

826
01:06:15,409 --> 01:06:17,911
- I've been looking into.
- I heard about it from Tucker.

827
01:06:18,162 --> 01:06:20,372
- Monsanto Tucker?
- Union Carbide now.

828
01:06:20,497 --> 01:06:21,498
He says to me,
"Is it true

829
01:06:21,582 --> 01:06:23,125
"that a Taft lawyer sent a
phone book's

830
01:06:23,208 --> 01:06:24,585
"worth of confidential
DuPont documents

831
01:06:24,668 --> 01:06:26,253
"to the entire
Federal government?"

832
01:06:26,336 --> 01:06:28,922
Internal documents, not confidential.
Very different.

833
01:06:29,006 --> 01:06:31,091
- So you're testifying.
- I signed up to testify.

834
01:06:31,175 --> 01:06:32,176
And the next thing I hear

835
01:06:32,259 --> 01:06:34,261
is DuPont has petitioned
a judge

836
01:06:34,344 --> 01:06:37,014
to stop me from testifying,
from flying to D.C,

837
01:06:37,097 --> 01:06:38,098
from even picking up
the phone

838
01:06:38,182 --> 01:06:39,266
They filed for a gag order.

839
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:41,101
Yes! This is what
we're up against.

840
01:06:41,185 --> 01:06:42,436
- Jesus.
- David.

841
01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:43,520
Come on, Tom.
What do you expect?

842
01:06:43,604 --> 01:06:44,688
Where do we stand?

843
01:06:44,771 --> 01:06:46,607
Well, the judge rejected
the gag order,

844
01:06:46,690 --> 01:06:48,192
so I fly out Monday.

845
01:06:48,650 --> 01:06:52,154
Nice. I guess we'll
just watch on C-SPAN.

846
01:06:54,448 --> 01:06:55,949
You ever do
anything like this again,

847
01:06:56,033 --> 01:06:59,703
I will cut your balls off and
serve them to DuPont myself.

848
01:07:00,078 --> 01:07:01,497
Get out of here.

849
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:05,876
Good luck in Washington.

850
01:07:07,127 --> 01:07:08,420
Thanks, Tom.

851
01:07:08,921 --> 01:07:12,716
This material
is a perfluoro...

852
01:07:12,883 --> 01:07:14,718
or a PFOA.

853
01:07:14,885 --> 01:07:18,347
It's also known
as FC 143,

854
01:07:19,306 --> 01:07:22,559
ammonium perfluorooctanoates.

855
01:07:22,643 --> 01:07:27,397
It has been shown
by DuPont's own science

856
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,567
that PFOA C-8

857
01:07:31,568 --> 01:07:35,656
is possibly life threatening
to human health.

858
01:07:36,073 --> 01:07:41,620
We are asking this agency
to do something.

859
01:08:02,349 --> 01:08:04,601
...the Presidential election
in four decades.

860
01:08:04,768 --> 01:08:06,520
Just look at these
latest polls.

861
01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:08,522
Did you forget
to pay the water bill?

862
01:08:09,565 --> 01:08:10,732
What?

863
01:08:10,816 --> 01:08:12,901
You forget to pay
the water bill?

864
01:08:14,528 --> 01:08:15,862
No.

865
01:08:16,697 --> 01:08:18,073
We got a notice.

866
01:08:18,615 --> 01:08:19,825
What's it say?

867
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:24,830
"PFOA is
a persistent chemical

868
01:08:24,913 --> 01:08:26,456
"that is slow
to be eliminated

869
01:08:26,540 --> 01:08:29,918
"from the blood stream of people
who have been exposed to it.

870
01:08:30,419 --> 01:08:32,170
"The DuPont company
has advised

871
01:08:32,254 --> 01:08:35,507
"the Lubeck Water District
that low concentrations

872
01:08:35,591 --> 01:08:38,552
"have been found
in the district's wells.

873
01:08:38,635 --> 01:08:39,886
"DuPont has advised
the district

874
01:08:39,970 --> 01:08:43,015
"that it is confident
these levels are safe."

875
01:08:44,182 --> 01:08:46,018
What the hell does that mean?

876
01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:49,771
A letter came last fall.

877
01:08:50,355 --> 01:08:52,649
Made no sense to me,
so I started making calls.

878
01:08:52,733 --> 01:08:55,027
I told Joe don't
kick that hornet's nest.

879
01:08:55,652 --> 01:08:58,280
It's not like we didn't know
what we'd signed up for.

880
01:08:59,573 --> 01:09:00,699
What do you mean?

881
01:09:01,450 --> 01:09:03,452
Oh, I was married
before Joe

882
01:09:04,161 --> 01:09:06,079
to a chemist
at DuPont.

883
01:09:06,622 --> 01:09:08,415
Dream job.
Paid real well.

884
01:09:08,498 --> 01:09:11,501
And the perks!
Presents for no reason.

885
01:09:11,585 --> 01:09:15,047
We'd get this catalogue.
Just pick whatever you want.

886
01:09:16,006 --> 01:09:17,299
And little stuff.

887
01:09:17,382 --> 01:09:18,800
Like he'd bring home
this soap,

888
01:09:18,884 --> 01:09:20,469
this miracle powder.

889
01:09:20,552 --> 01:09:22,596
You puttin the washing
machine or the dishwasher,

890
01:09:22,679 --> 01:09:24,598
just wipes stuff clean
like you would not believe.

891
01:09:25,641 --> 01:09:28,101
One day he comes home
and says,

892
01:09:28,185 --> 01:09:29,936
"Can't bring that stuff
home no more."

893
01:09:30,020 --> 01:09:31,772
"Why?" Won't tell me.

894
01:09:32,105 --> 01:09:34,316
Then he'd get sick
for weeks.

895
01:09:35,108 --> 01:09:37,194
The Teflon flu,
the guys would call it.

896
01:09:37,944 --> 01:09:40,072
We knew
something wasn't right.

897
01:09:40,572 --> 01:09:43,408
But this house,
we bought it just by

898
01:09:43,492 --> 01:09:46,578
showing the bank
my husband's DuPont ID.

899
01:09:46,662 --> 01:09:49,956
Put both our kids
through college. Engineers.

900
01:09:51,583 --> 01:09:54,294
In this town,
that doesn't come without a price.

901
01:09:54,628 --> 01:09:57,339
My brother Kenny
didn't know that price.

902
01:09:57,506 --> 01:09:59,549
He joined DuPont at 19.

903
01:09:59,633 --> 01:10:01,968
Died on the operating table
two years later.

904
01:10:02,427 --> 01:10:05,514
- Ulcerative colitis.
- Just like Dan Schiller had.

905
01:10:05,597 --> 01:10:06,890
Who's Dan?

906
01:10:07,057 --> 01:10:09,685
A chemist at DuPont.
Worked with my ex-husband.

907
01:10:10,143 --> 01:10:12,896
And Roger,
what's his name?

908
01:10:12,979 --> 01:10:14,481
Wilkins,
the foreman.

909
01:10:14,606 --> 01:10:16,858
Steven Gellar.
Randy Field.

910
01:10:16,942 --> 01:10:19,569
Randy's was kidney cancer.
He survived.

911
01:10:19,653 --> 01:10:22,197
- His wife didn't.
- No, June's was thyroid.

912
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:23,865
It was supposed
to be treatable.

913
01:10:24,241 --> 01:10:25,575
They didn't catch it
in time.

914
01:10:25,659 --> 01:10:27,911
But they caught it
in their son.

915
01:10:29,955 --> 01:10:32,040
Were your children
born healthy?

916
01:10:32,124 --> 01:10:34,167
- Yes. Yes, they were.
- Good.

917
01:10:34,334 --> 01:10:38,255
But we wanted
a third and couldn't.

918
01:10:38,338 --> 01:10:39,548
I went to my doctor.

919
01:10:39,631 --> 01:10:42,342
He says, "You need a hysterectomy.
You need it right away."

920
01:10:44,219 --> 01:10:45,387
I'm so sorry.

921
01:10:45,470 --> 01:10:47,055
Bad luck, I guess.

922
01:10:48,765 --> 01:10:50,142
I was 36.

923
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:52,769
Mr. Kiger,

924
01:10:52,853 --> 01:10:55,063
you think I could get
a copy of that letter?

925
01:11:07,576 --> 01:11:09,536
What's wrong
with your hand?

926
01:11:09,911 --> 01:11:12,080
Nothing. It's fine.

927
01:11:17,085 --> 01:11:18,962
Whoa, Rob?

928
01:11:21,089 --> 01:11:22,799
Rob, what are you doing?

929
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,012
I mean, it's not enough
to poison these people?

930
01:11:27,095 --> 01:11:28,513
They gotta swindle them too?

931
01:11:28,597 --> 01:11:30,140
Okay, calm down. All right?

932
01:11:30,223 --> 01:11:31,933
DuPont wrote that letter!

933
01:11:32,017 --> 01:11:33,977
- Not the water authority.
- How do you know that?

934
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:36,688
You think I don't know what a
DuPont letter looks like by now?

935
01:11:36,772 --> 01:11:38,106
Okay. Okay.

936
01:11:38,565 --> 01:11:39,733
I mean, Jesus!

937
01:11:39,816 --> 01:11:41,526
It's evil, Sarah.

938
01:11:41,610 --> 01:11:43,570
It's fucking evil!

939
01:11:43,653 --> 01:11:45,822
What's fack?

940
01:11:46,740 --> 01:11:47,866
Perfect.

941
01:11:47,949 --> 01:11:49,701
It's nothing, sweetie.
It's nothing. Oh, boy.

942
01:11:49,785 --> 01:11:51,453
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, honey.

943
01:11:51,536 --> 01:11:52,913
Can you give
Charlie the bottle, please?

944
01:11:52,996 --> 01:11:55,540
- Where's his bottle?
- It's in the bag.

945
01:11:55,624 --> 01:11:57,876
- What is all this?
- It's from Grammer's.

946
01:11:58,251 --> 01:12:00,337
It was left
in her mailbox.

947
01:12:00,837 --> 01:12:02,881
- "Medical claims, now and forever"?
- Here, bud.

948
01:12:02,964 --> 01:12:04,424
- "Now and forever."
- Is that that...

949
01:12:04,549 --> 01:12:05,592
That...

950
01:12:06,343 --> 01:12:08,345
Medical monitoring.
Is that...

951
01:12:10,013 --> 01:12:12,432
I thought you said
that wasn't gonna pass?

952
01:12:14,684 --> 01:12:17,562
- Morning.
- Guys.

953
01:12:23,985 --> 01:12:26,905
Our lead plaintiff
is Mr. Joe Kiger.

954
01:12:26,988 --> 01:12:30,575
Potential plaintiff,
if the partnership approves.

955
01:12:30,659 --> 01:12:32,994
Mr. Joe Kiger,
a Phys Ed teacher

956
01:12:33,078 --> 01:12:35,205
from Parkersburg,
West Virginia.

957
01:12:35,288 --> 01:12:39,793
On behalf of
the 70,000 local residents,

958
01:12:39,876 --> 01:12:42,754
whose water
DuPont knowingly poisoned

959
01:12:42,838 --> 01:12:44,172
for the last 40 years.

960
01:12:44,256 --> 01:12:45,257
A class action?

961
01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:46,508
Let him finish.

962
01:12:46,591 --> 01:12:48,343
The Kigers were notified

963
01:12:48,426 --> 01:12:51,763
by their local water company
that DuPont had found

964
01:12:51,847 --> 01:12:55,642
small concentrations of C-8
in their water supply,

965
01:12:55,725 --> 01:12:57,185
but not to worry

966
01:12:57,269 --> 01:13:00,647
because those concentrations
were safe.

967
01:13:00,730 --> 01:13:03,650
Why?
Because DuPont said so.

968
01:13:07,988 --> 01:13:10,282
This is what DuPont
considers safe.

969
01:13:10,657 --> 01:13:13,159
That's something like
one drop of water

970
01:13:13,243 --> 01:13:15,328
in an Olympic size
swimming pool.

971
01:13:15,412 --> 01:13:17,914
In other words,
even a trace of C-8

972
01:13:17,998 --> 01:13:19,916
renders water unsafe.

973
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,335
But DuPont told
the local water authority,

974
01:13:22,419 --> 01:13:23,461
"Don't worry.

975
01:13:23,545 --> 01:13:25,547
"Your wells have got even
less than that."

976
01:13:25,630 --> 01:13:27,716
- Except that was a lie.
- A lie?

977
01:13:27,799 --> 01:13:30,427
Yes. DuPont has been
secretly testing

978
01:13:30,510 --> 01:13:31,845
these wells for decades.

979
01:13:31,928 --> 01:13:34,890
They knew they had
contaminated those wells

980
01:13:34,973 --> 01:13:37,893
up to six times
that level.

981
01:13:37,976 --> 01:13:40,645
And thanks to the Tennant
case, now we know too.

982
01:13:40,729 --> 01:13:43,356
Hold on. This stuff
is unregulated, right?

983
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:44,983
I mean, as far as
EPA's concerned,

984
01:13:45,066 --> 01:13:47,110
it might as well
be rose petals.

985
01:13:47,193 --> 01:13:49,446
The EPA hasn't
set a standard, that's true,

986
01:13:49,529 --> 01:13:51,197
but DuPont did.

987
01:13:51,406 --> 01:13:54,242
And all the law requires
to win a case like this,

988
01:13:54,326 --> 01:13:56,578
is to show
that DuPont exceeded

989
01:13:56,661 --> 01:13:59,205
what DuPont itself
considers safe.

990
01:13:59,414 --> 01:14:00,582
Self-regulation.

991
01:14:00,707 --> 01:14:02,584
- If what you're saying is right...
- It is right.

992
01:14:02,667 --> 01:14:06,046
...then why would DuPont tell this
water district anything at all?

993
01:14:06,129 --> 01:14:07,589
Seems to me
that they're being

994
01:14:07,672 --> 01:14:09,424
a good
corporate citizen here.

995
01:14:09,841 --> 01:14:12,844
That's how long
you have to file suit.

996
01:14:13,261 --> 01:14:14,554
One year from the moment

997
01:14:14,638 --> 01:14:17,182
you realize your water's
been contaminated.

998
01:14:17,641 --> 01:14:21,728
This letter looks like it's
telling people their water is safe.

999
01:14:21,811 --> 01:14:24,981
In fact, it's notifying them
that it isn't.

1000
01:14:25,065 --> 01:14:26,733
DuPont has started the clock.

1001
01:14:27,108 --> 01:14:28,234
Smart.

1002
01:14:28,818 --> 01:14:29,945
We would've
counseled that.

1003
01:14:30,028 --> 01:14:32,072
It was sent
11 months ago.

1004
01:14:32,155 --> 01:14:34,616
The moment they realized
we knew.

1005
01:14:35,283 --> 01:14:37,494
In 30 days,
they're home free.

1006
01:14:37,577 --> 01:14:40,163
So that's the proposed
case in brief.

1007
01:14:40,246 --> 01:14:41,998
But there's something else
to consider.

1008
01:14:42,082 --> 01:14:43,333
You think?

1009
01:14:43,625 --> 01:14:44,709
Rob.

1010
01:14:44,793 --> 01:14:47,712
C-8 bio-accumulates.
It builds up inside of us.

1011
01:14:48,088 --> 01:14:50,382
Some class members
who aren't sick today

1012
01:14:51,633 --> 01:14:53,093
will get sick tomorrow.

1013
01:14:53,176 --> 01:14:55,929
We need a way to protect
them into the future.

1014
01:14:56,012 --> 01:14:58,056
Jesus, Tom! If you're even thinking
about using medical monitoring...

1015
01:14:58,139 --> 01:15:00,475
Hold on. Hold on.

1016
01:15:00,558 --> 01:15:04,187
Medical monitoring
is a claim now permitted

1017
01:15:04,270 --> 01:15:05,480
in West Virginia courts.

1018
01:15:05,563 --> 01:15:07,524
- Oh, come on.
- Let's hear him out.

1019
01:15:07,607 --> 01:15:10,276
It say if a company
exposes a community

1020
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,987
to something
that makes them sick,

1021
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:15,281
they must monitor the health
of that community indefinitely.

1022
01:15:15,365 --> 01:15:19,244
Everybody get that? You're creating
liability from mere exposure.

1023
01:15:19,327 --> 01:15:21,037
It's also unprecedented.

1024
01:15:21,121 --> 01:15:23,248
Exactly!
Which is why not six months ago,

1025
01:15:23,331 --> 01:15:25,000
we fought tooth and nail
against it.

1026
01:15:25,083 --> 01:15:27,794
And you lost.
Our clients have the right

1027
01:15:27,877 --> 01:15:29,713
to avail themselves
of the law.

1028
01:15:29,796 --> 01:15:32,298
Potential clients.

1029
01:15:36,469 --> 01:15:37,470
Okay.

1030
01:15:38,096 --> 01:15:41,391
I know you, Rob.
I know your passion.

1031
01:15:42,142 --> 01:15:44,394
You got a great settlement
for your farmer.

1032
01:15:44,477 --> 01:15:45,812
You should be proud of that.

1033
01:15:46,771 --> 01:15:50,358
And perhaps as the newest
partner at this table,

1034
01:15:50,442 --> 01:15:51,985
I should be
more circumspect.

1035
01:15:52,068 --> 01:15:56,156
But what he's
proposing here is

1036
01:15:56,781 --> 01:15:59,034
nothing less
than a shakedown

1037
01:15:59,117 --> 01:16:02,120
- of an iconic American company.
- We do not represent DuPont.

1038
01:16:02,203 --> 01:16:04,289
No, you don't
represent anyone.

1039
01:16:05,957 --> 01:16:07,792
Is this what
we have become?

1040
01:16:07,876 --> 01:16:10,628
Plaintiff's attorneys.
Ambulance chasers.

1041
01:16:10,712 --> 01:16:12,630
Why don't you just admit it?
Rob, you wanna flip.

1042
01:16:12,714 --> 01:16:14,841
You wanna take everything
that you know

1043
01:16:14,924 --> 01:16:17,343
about how
chemical companies operate

1044
01:16:17,427 --> 01:16:19,888
and turn it against DuPont.
Like an informant.

1045
01:16:19,971 --> 01:16:21,056
- That's enough.
- Isn't that right?

1046
01:16:21,181 --> 01:16:22,515
- Okay!
- Isn't that right?

1047
01:16:22,599 --> 01:16:23,975
- Isn't that right?
- Yes.

1048
01:16:24,517 --> 01:16:27,937
Okay, then, I...
I say we take a vote

1049
01:16:28,021 --> 01:16:30,148
and determine whether or not

1050
01:16:30,231 --> 01:16:31,733
we continue
in the tradition

1051
01:16:31,816 --> 01:16:34,152
that has distinguished this
firm from everyone else...

1052
01:16:34,235 --> 01:16:36,696
Okay, I'm running
this meeting. Okay?

1053
01:16:37,363 --> 01:16:38,364
You got that?

1054
01:16:39,365 --> 01:16:41,034
Has anyone even read
the evidence

1055
01:16:41,117 --> 01:16:42,202
this man has collected?

1056
01:16:43,411 --> 01:16:45,705
The willful negligence,
the corruption?

1057
01:16:47,165 --> 01:16:48,166
Read it!

1058
01:16:48,958 --> 01:16:50,835
And then tell me we should
be sitting on our asses!

1059
01:16:51,628 --> 01:16:55,507
That's the reason
why Americans hate lawyers.

1060
01:16:56,299 --> 01:16:59,344
This is the crap that fuels
the Ralph Naders of the world.

1061
01:16:59,427 --> 01:17:02,138
We should want
to nail DuPont.

1062
01:17:03,014 --> 01:17:04,974
All of us should!

1063
01:17:05,058 --> 01:17:07,268
American business is better
than this, gentlemen.

1064
01:17:07,352 --> 01:17:09,979
And when it's not,
we should hold them to it.

1065
01:17:10,063 --> 01:17:12,148
That's how you build
faith in the system.

1066
01:17:13,525 --> 01:17:16,277
We're always arguing
that companies are people.

1067
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,782
Well, these people
have crossed the line!

1068
01:17:21,908 --> 01:17:23,576
To hell with them!

1069
01:17:27,288 --> 01:17:28,790
It may come
as a surprise

1070
01:17:28,873 --> 01:17:31,793
to corporate defense types
like yourselves,

1071
01:17:31,876 --> 01:17:33,753
but there's more to the law
than just flooding

1072
01:17:33,837 --> 01:17:35,421
the other side in papers.

1073
01:17:35,505 --> 01:17:38,716
From where I sit,
you have to touch people.

1074
01:17:39,467 --> 01:17:41,386
These girls,
they handle the calls

1075
01:17:41,469 --> 01:17:43,638
from the
class action members.

1076
01:17:43,721 --> 01:17:46,182
And there's thousands of 'em
on any given case.

1077
01:17:46,808 --> 01:17:49,894
And it's here that we come
to know their pain.

1078
01:17:49,978 --> 01:17:51,521
Isn't that right, Hazel?

1079
01:17:51,604 --> 01:17:54,899
Yes. We hear it every day

1080
01:17:54,983 --> 01:17:58,153
and it's my job to make
a jury feel that pain.

1081
01:17:58,236 --> 01:18:00,738
Not out of pity,
but out of fear.

1082
01:18:01,281 --> 01:18:03,616
Whatever it is
that happened to my client,

1083
01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:05,493
that juror has to think,

1084
01:18:06,536 --> 01:18:08,079
"That could happen to me."

1085
01:18:08,246 --> 01:18:09,664
You just
keep hammering it.

1086
01:18:09,747 --> 01:18:11,916
One part per billion.
One part per billion.

1087
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,419
It's their own documents.
Their own scientists.

1088
01:18:14,502 --> 01:18:15,545
Absolutely.

1089
01:18:15,628 --> 01:18:18,047
They set that standard,
they have to live with it.

1090
01:18:18,131 --> 01:18:20,133
Yeah, I think
we can relax, Rob,

1091
01:18:20,216 --> 01:18:23,469
though, there's no way they're gonna
prevail with a motion to dismiss.

1092
01:18:23,553 --> 01:18:25,138
This is procedural.

1093
01:18:25,471 --> 01:18:27,390
It's nonsense.
We'll get a trial today.

1094
01:18:30,101 --> 01:18:32,353
Okay, I'll catch
you guys in there.

1095
01:18:35,940 --> 01:18:37,275
I wouldn't drink that.

1096
01:18:40,862 --> 01:18:41,863
Earl.

1097
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:45,200
How ya doing?

1098
01:18:46,201 --> 01:18:47,410
Still here.

1099
01:18:49,245 --> 01:18:50,663
That's somethin',
right?

1100
01:18:51,789 --> 01:18:53,583
Yes, that's something.

1101
01:18:54,542 --> 01:18:55,668
Good to see ya,
Robbie.

1102
01:18:59,464 --> 01:19:00,715
Can't let 'em

1103
01:19:02,217 --> 01:19:03,426
shut you down.

1104
01:19:05,428 --> 01:19:07,889
I won't. I promise.

1105
01:19:08,681 --> 01:19:10,016
Whole world

1106
01:19:11,684 --> 01:19:13,394
needs to know.

1107
01:19:15,521 --> 01:19:18,233
They will, Earl.
They will.

1108
01:19:20,318 --> 01:19:23,196
Hey, Rob? It's time.

1109
01:19:25,573 --> 01:19:27,325
I have to go.

1110
01:19:43,758 --> 01:19:45,385
We are here
on defendant's motion

1111
01:19:45,468 --> 01:19:49,097
to dismiss the case
brought by Mr. Kiger, et al.

1112
01:19:50,348 --> 01:19:54,060
Now, which one of you
is Mr. Wallace?

1113
01:19:54,811 --> 01:19:56,437
Edward Wallace,
Your Honor,

1114
01:19:56,521 --> 01:19:59,065
on behalf of the E.I.
DuPont de Nemours and Company,

1115
01:19:59,148 --> 01:20:00,608
better known as DuPont.

1116
01:20:00,733 --> 01:20:02,235
Yes, I've heard of it.

1117
01:20:02,318 --> 01:20:03,987
- Your motion.
- Thank you.

1118
01:20:04,988 --> 01:20:08,866
Your Honor, we're here today because
of a uniquely American invention.

1119
01:20:09,617 --> 01:20:10,618
Teflon.

1120
01:20:11,077 --> 01:20:13,788
Since 1961, Teflon
has liberated housewives...

1121
01:20:13,871 --> 01:20:16,916
- No, no, no.
- Excuse me. Homemakers...

1122
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,294
This is a courtroom,
Mr. Wallace.

1123
01:20:19,377 --> 01:20:21,129
Not the Home Shopping Network.

1124
01:20:23,298 --> 01:20:25,258
Plaintiffs have alleged
that DuPont

1125
01:20:25,341 --> 01:20:27,385
did not meet
its own standard of safety

1126
01:20:27,468 --> 01:20:29,929
with regard to
the level of C-8

1127
01:20:30,013 --> 01:20:31,306
in the local water supply.

1128
01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:33,558
That's irrelevant,
Your Honor.

1129
01:20:34,225 --> 01:20:35,643
We ask you to dismiss
on grounds

1130
01:20:35,727 --> 01:20:37,645
that the only standard
that matters,

1131
01:20:37,729 --> 01:20:40,398
is the one that elected
government deems safe.

1132
01:20:40,481 --> 01:20:41,607
Not if it's unregulated.

1133
01:20:41,691 --> 01:20:43,776
It's government's job
to make these determinations.

1134
01:20:43,860 --> 01:20:45,403
- Not any one company.
- It's a trap.

1135
01:20:45,486 --> 01:20:46,863
They can't revert
back to...

1136
01:20:46,946 --> 01:20:48,072
I got it.

1137
01:20:48,156 --> 01:20:49,949
Is there a problem,
Mr. Deitzler?

1138
01:20:50,033 --> 01:20:51,743
Apologies, Your Honor,

1139
01:20:51,826 --> 01:20:55,496
but DuPont has been hiding
the dangers of this chemical

1140
01:20:55,580 --> 01:20:57,915
from the government
for a while now.

1141
01:20:57,999 --> 01:21:00,460
And they're asking you
to let them off the hook

1142
01:21:00,543 --> 01:21:02,837
because they've succeeded
in their strategy.

1143
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,006
Government doesn't
regulate C-8.

1144
01:21:05,089 --> 01:21:06,132
Actually,
that's not true.

1145
01:21:06,549 --> 01:21:07,550
No, no.

1146
01:21:07,633 --> 01:21:09,677
The West Virginia's
C-8 Working Group

1147
01:21:09,761 --> 01:21:11,262
has just issued
a standard.

1148
01:21:11,929 --> 01:21:13,097
Here with us today,

1149
01:21:13,181 --> 01:21:14,932
is the governmental official
who led that effort,

1150
01:21:15,475 --> 01:21:17,018
Dr. Mary Sue Kimball.

1151
01:21:19,604 --> 01:21:22,106
And, Dr. Kimball,
as a senior member

1152
01:21:22,190 --> 01:21:24,442
of the State's Department
of Environmental Protection,

1153
01:21:24,525 --> 01:21:26,069
isn't it, in fact,
your duty,

1154
01:21:26,194 --> 01:21:27,904
- to protect the citizens of West Virginia...
- Mr. Wallace.

1155
01:21:29,405 --> 01:21:30,531
I'll cut to the chase.

1156
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,951
What is the level of C-8
in drinking water

1157
01:21:34,035 --> 01:21:36,204
that the State
of West Virginia

1158
01:21:36,746 --> 01:21:38,498
has determined to be
completely safe?

1159
01:21:38,581 --> 01:21:39,916
Watch it go from one
part per billion to?

1160
01:21:39,999 --> 01:21:41,000
- Five.
- Ten?

1161
01:21:41,084 --> 01:21:42,752
150 parts per billion.

1162
01:21:44,128 --> 01:21:46,881
- Welcome to West Virginia.
- The levels found in the wells

1163
01:21:46,964 --> 01:21:49,967
of all six water districts
represented in this suit,

1164
01:21:50,343 --> 01:21:52,345
do they fall below
this maximum level?

1165
01:21:52,428 --> 01:21:53,429
Well below.

1166
01:21:54,639 --> 01:21:55,681
Nothing else, Your Honor.

1167
01:21:57,058 --> 01:21:58,726
Your witness,
Mr. Deitzler.

1168
01:21:58,810 --> 01:22:00,269
Wait. Who's on
the working group?

1169
01:22:00,353 --> 01:22:01,687
DuPont, of course,
and who else?

1170
01:22:01,771 --> 01:22:03,106
- Who did the water testing?
- Mr. Deitzler?

1171
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:04,857
- When was it done?
- One moment, Judge.

1172
01:22:04,941 --> 01:22:06,275
What was
the sample size?

1173
01:22:06,359 --> 01:22:07,402
We should
be able to see...

1174
01:22:07,485 --> 01:22:11,406
Going once, going twice...

1175
01:22:11,489 --> 01:22:15,410
Dr. Kimball, who were
the members of this cabal

1176
01:22:15,493 --> 01:22:17,120
you call the C-8
working group?

1177
01:22:17,203 --> 01:22:18,663
Objection.

1178
01:22:18,996 --> 01:22:20,540
Cool it, Mr. Deitzler.

1179
01:22:22,083 --> 01:22:23,418
Go ahead, Dr. Kimball.

1180
01:22:23,876 --> 01:22:25,294
Agency officials,

1181
01:22:25,378 --> 01:22:29,048
representatives of the scientific
community, um, stakeholders.

1182
01:22:29,132 --> 01:22:30,883
Stakeholders?
Which stakeholders?

1183
01:22:30,967 --> 01:22:34,429
Oh, wait, let me guess.
It rhymes with bouffant?

1184
01:22:35,596 --> 01:22:37,348
DuPont is a stakeholder. Yes.

1185
01:22:37,432 --> 01:22:38,599
So, I see.

1186
01:22:38,683 --> 01:22:40,935
So, don't you find it peculiar
that on the eve

1187
01:22:41,436 --> 01:22:43,104
of a class action lawsuit,

1188
01:22:43,187 --> 01:22:46,691
where DuPont might be
considered liable

1189
01:22:46,774 --> 01:22:49,277
for poisoning this community,

1190
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,196
they get you
to come in here suddenly

1191
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,075
and reverse decades of their
so-called heralded science?

1192
01:22:57,201 --> 01:22:59,162
That's false.
I don't work for DuPont.

1193
01:22:59,245 --> 01:23:00,496
I didn't say you did.

1194
01:23:01,330 --> 01:23:03,458
But now you bring it up,
we'll check back in a month.

1195
01:23:03,541 --> 01:23:05,251
- Your Honor...
- You honestly, was gonna plan on

1196
01:23:05,334 --> 01:23:10,173
telling this community that they
can drink 150 times more C-8?

1197
01:23:10,256 --> 01:23:11,966
I mean, come on,
people, bottoms up.

1198
01:23:12,049 --> 01:23:13,050
Honestly, Judge...

1199
01:23:13,134 --> 01:23:15,303
All right,
Mr. Deitzler, enough.

1200
01:23:16,554 --> 01:23:18,055
We'll be unveiling
the new standard

1201
01:23:18,139 --> 01:23:19,599
at an upcoming
public hearing.

1202
01:23:20,266 --> 01:23:23,186
Unveiling. Oh,
that sounds like a party.

1203
01:23:24,020 --> 01:23:25,021
We'll be there!

1204
01:23:31,027 --> 01:23:33,779
Their safety standards thing,
that's all a sham.

1205
01:23:33,863 --> 01:23:35,615
Thanks to
the Judge's decision,

1206
01:23:35,698 --> 01:23:37,617
we will have our day
in court.

1207
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:38,910
Yes, we will!

1208
01:23:38,993 --> 01:23:41,329
Because if the state
of West Virginia

1209
01:23:41,412 --> 01:23:43,289
won't stop
the DuPont Corporation

1210
01:23:43,372 --> 01:23:45,625
from literally
poisoning its citizens,

1211
01:23:45,708 --> 01:23:49,045
then we, the citizens,
will stop them ourselves.

1212
01:23:51,172 --> 01:23:53,466
Good
evening and welcome to 20/20.

1213
01:23:53,549 --> 01:23:57,845
Well, it coats the pots you cook
with so the food doesn't stick.

1214
01:23:57,929 --> 01:24:01,057
It protects the carpet
your baby crawls on.

1215
01:24:01,140 --> 01:24:02,934
I miss carpet.

1216
01:24:03,017 --> 01:24:05,228
...your skin lotion,
even your makeup.

1217
01:24:05,311 --> 01:24:07,188
We're talking about Teflon.

1218
01:24:07,271 --> 01:24:10,274
And tonight our 20/20
investigation uncovers

1219
01:24:10,358 --> 01:24:14,529
alarming information about
this much-used material.

1220
01:24:14,612 --> 01:24:17,156
It is very alarming, Barbara.
I cook with Teflon.

1221
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,368
I didn't know until I watched this
report that you're about to see,

1222
01:24:20,451 --> 01:24:22,161
that if Teflon
gets hot enough...

1223
01:24:22,245 --> 01:24:24,038
...millions of people
have in their homes.

1224
01:24:24,121 --> 01:24:25,414
Teflon has become
such a familiar...

1225
01:24:25,498 --> 01:24:28,668
...Substance that is also used in
clothing and cars. Even in contact lenses.

1226
01:24:28,751 --> 01:24:32,088
...already found in the blood
of most Americans.

1227
01:24:35,424 --> 01:24:38,386
...millions of homes across
Australia. Teflon, a non-stick surface...

1228
01:24:38,469 --> 01:24:40,555
The
Environmental Protection Agency

1229
01:24:40,638 --> 01:24:45,560
this morning announced it has opened
a priority review of the chemical C-8,

1230
01:24:45,643 --> 01:24:48,271
currently the subject
of a class action lawsuit

1231
01:24:48,354 --> 01:24:50,231
against the chemical giant
DuPont.

1232
01:24:50,314 --> 01:24:51,315
Joe!

1233
01:24:53,442 --> 01:24:56,445
Joe! Oh, my Lord!
Joe, just wait!

1234
01:24:56,529 --> 01:24:59,532
Wait for the fire department,
please, honey!

1235
01:24:59,907 --> 01:25:01,909
Please don't go crazy!

1236
01:25:01,993 --> 01:25:03,869
...have triggered a
mass panic amongst Chinese consumers.

1237
01:25:03,953 --> 01:25:06,706
...just throw away
your non-stick pans, many experts...

1238
01:25:06,789 --> 01:25:09,000
Are your pans
making you sick?

1239
01:25:09,083 --> 01:25:10,793
That's the question
being asked...

1240
01:25:10,876 --> 01:25:14,046
...kitchen
implements coated in Teflon.

1241
01:25:14,672 --> 01:25:17,675
The house was empty.
It belongs to my father.

1242
01:25:18,050 --> 01:25:20,136
I don't know
how it could've started.

1243
01:25:20,219 --> 01:25:21,470
His name Kiger?

1244
01:25:23,097 --> 01:25:25,224
Think someone might have
got the wrong house?

1245
01:25:33,816 --> 01:25:36,944
All of this
hullabaloo is just silly.

1246
01:25:37,862 --> 01:25:41,073
Teflon is completely safe
for cooking.

1247
01:25:41,157 --> 01:25:43,951
That is why we founded
the Cook Healthy campaign,

1248
01:25:44,035 --> 01:25:45,578
to set the record straight.

1249
01:25:45,703 --> 01:25:50,625
And besides being completely safe, it is also...

1250
01:25:57,882 --> 01:25:59,091
Copy that.

1251
01:26:02,094 --> 01:26:03,471
All the way down.

1252
01:27:08,202 --> 01:27:09,286
We're now on the record.

1253
01:27:09,370 --> 01:27:13,249
This is the videotaped deposition
of Charles O. Holliday, Jr.,

1254
01:27:13,332 --> 01:27:16,293
taken by the plaintiffs in
the matter of Kiger et al

1255
01:27:16,377 --> 01:27:19,588
v. the E.I. DuPont
de Nemours and Company.

1256
01:27:19,672 --> 01:27:21,382
Raise your right hand.

1257
01:27:22,091 --> 01:27:24,802
Do you swear to tell the whole
truth and nothing but the truth?

1258
01:27:24,885 --> 01:27:26,011
I do.

1259
01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:29,390
Uh, please state
your name.

1260
01:27:30,182 --> 01:27:31,934
Charles O. Holliday, Jr.

1261
01:27:32,351 --> 01:27:35,730
And are you
presently employed?

1262
01:27:36,647 --> 01:27:37,815
Yes.

1263
01:27:38,274 --> 01:27:40,317
What is your position?

1264
01:27:41,277 --> 01:27:44,530
I'm the chairman and chief executive
officer of the DuPont Company.

1265
01:27:45,865 --> 01:27:50,494
In DuPont's most recent filing with
the Securities and Exchange Commission,

1266
01:27:50,578 --> 01:27:54,999
you state, "Based on over 50
years of industry experience

1267
01:27:55,082 --> 01:27:57,334
"and extensive
scientific study,

1268
01:27:57,418 --> 01:28:01,422
"DuPont believes there is
no evidence that PFOA causes

1269
01:28:01,505 --> 01:28:05,926
"any adverse human health effects
or harms the environment."

1270
01:28:06,010 --> 01:28:08,137
You signed
that legal filing, correct?

1271
01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:10,973
I don't recall the exact statement,
but that sounds right to me.

1272
01:28:11,056 --> 01:28:15,102
Are you aware that DuPont
has, in its own files,

1273
01:28:15,186 --> 01:28:20,191
studies dating back to the 1970s
that say just the opposite?

1274
01:28:20,483 --> 01:28:23,402
That PFOA, or C-8,
as it's called,

1275
01:28:23,486 --> 01:28:26,572
has potentially life-threatening
effects on human health?

1276
01:28:26,655 --> 01:28:29,575
I'm not familiar with the exact
studies we may have in our files.

1277
01:28:29,658 --> 01:28:32,953
Then I'll take you through them.
Uh, Exhibit 9.

1278
01:28:38,292 --> 01:28:41,754
Uh, you were just
handed Exhibit 9.

1279
01:28:42,087 --> 01:28:46,175
- Uh, do you see the date March 13th, 1979?
- Yes.

1280
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:49,011
- Do you see the DuPont logo at the top?
- Yes.

1281
01:28:49,136 --> 01:28:52,848
- Do you see this word here, highlighted?
- Yes.

1282
01:28:52,932 --> 01:28:55,601
- Would you read it for me, please?
- "Receptors."

1283
01:28:56,435 --> 01:29:00,064
Do you know what that word refers
to, receptors?

1284
01:29:00,606 --> 01:29:03,526
Um, in this context,
I do not.

1285
01:29:03,609 --> 01:29:05,236
It means human beings.

1286
01:29:05,736 --> 01:29:07,822
DuPont refers
to the men and women

1287
01:29:07,905 --> 01:29:11,659
that your company
exposed to C-8 as receptors.

1288
01:29:11,742 --> 01:29:16,372
And in these receptors,
your scientists found,

1289
01:29:16,455 --> 01:29:20,709
"significantly higher
incidents of allergic endocrine

1290
01:29:20,793 --> 01:29:22,670
"and metabolic disorders."

1291
01:29:22,753 --> 01:29:27,383
As well as, "excess risk of
developing liver disease."

1292
01:29:27,466 --> 01:29:29,468
- Do you see that?
- Yes.

1293
01:29:31,136 --> 01:29:34,598
Moreover, you have
infertility at Teflon.

1294
01:29:34,682 --> 01:29:36,934
Occurrences of leukemia.

1295
01:29:37,017 --> 01:29:39,311
You have excess of cancers.

1296
01:29:39,395 --> 01:29:41,438
Bladder, kidney,
oral, pharynx.

1297
01:29:41,522 --> 01:29:44,024
Next paragraph. 78.

1298
01:29:44,108 --> 01:29:46,652
Do you see that heading?
Do you see that date? Do you see that?

1299
01:29:46,735 --> 01:29:49,238
Exhibit 96. Exhibit 53.

1300
01:29:49,321 --> 01:29:51,407
I'd like to move on
to birth defects.

1301
01:29:51,490 --> 01:29:52,658
We've gone
almost seven hours.

1302
01:29:52,741 --> 01:29:55,619
Mr. Holliday, you're aware
that in 1981

1303
01:29:55,703 --> 01:29:59,456
3M notified DuPont that it
had conducted studies on rats.

1304
01:29:59,540 --> 01:30:00,958
And these studies showed

1305
01:30:01,041 --> 01:30:04,879
that sustained C-8 exposure
can cause facial deformities?

1306
01:30:04,962 --> 01:30:06,714
I'm not aware
of a study by 3M.

1307
01:30:06,797 --> 01:30:11,385
How about DuPont's own studies that
showed the same thing in humans?

1308
01:30:14,471 --> 01:30:18,267
That's DuPont's
pregnancy study from 1981.

1309
01:30:18,559 --> 01:30:20,144
Does that look like
a DuPont document to you?

1310
01:30:20,227 --> 01:30:21,312
It looks to be.

1311
01:30:23,355 --> 01:30:27,026
Are you aware that DuPont has
denied that any such study

1312
01:30:27,109 --> 01:30:29,570
ever even took place?

1313
01:30:30,863 --> 01:30:33,532
I'm not familiar with specific
statements we've made about that.

1314
01:30:33,616 --> 01:30:37,286
Seven pregnant women,
all DuPont employees,

1315
01:30:37,369 --> 01:30:39,413
all from the Teflon line.

1316
01:30:40,205 --> 01:30:42,291
Do you see this here?

1317
01:30:42,374 --> 01:30:46,795
"Child, four months,
one nostril,

1318
01:30:46,879 --> 01:30:49,089
- "eye defect."
- Yes.

1319
01:30:49,173 --> 01:30:52,384
Two of the seven women,
nearly 30%, gave birth

1320
01:30:52,468 --> 01:30:56,347
to babies that had the exact facial
deformities that your company

1321
01:30:56,430 --> 01:30:58,682
- already knew about.
- We're done here.

1322
01:31:00,851 --> 01:31:01,977
Sir.

1323
01:31:03,354 --> 01:31:05,189
His parents named him Bucky.

1324
01:31:08,901 --> 01:31:10,277
Bucky Bailey.

1325
01:31:12,154 --> 01:31:14,531
This is your receptor.

1326
01:31:22,998 --> 01:31:24,375
Now we're done.

1327
01:33:01,388 --> 01:33:05,100
The Environmental Protection
Agency has levied the largest fine

1328
01:33:05,184 --> 01:33:09,021
in agency history against
the chemical giant, DuPont.

1329
01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:14,109
The EPA concluded the company failed
to report the health dangers of C-8

1330
01:33:14,193 --> 01:33:16,779
used in the manufacture
of Teflon.

1331
01:33:17,279 --> 01:33:21,033
Dupont will pay the EPA
16.5 million.

1332
01:33:22,326 --> 01:33:26,330
It earns a billion dollars in
profits from Teflon each year.

1333
01:33:33,462 --> 01:33:34,797
To recap,

1334
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,092
we've agreed that DuPont will
clean local water supplies.

1335
01:33:38,175 --> 01:33:41,762
Install infiltration systems
in all six water districts.

1336
01:33:42,679 --> 01:33:46,391
Additionally, DuPont will pay
70 million in cash to the Class.

1337
01:33:46,475 --> 01:33:48,685
Three days' revenue
on the Teflon line.

1338
01:33:49,853 --> 01:33:53,732
Which leaves our most
challenging issue. Medical monitoring.

1339
01:33:53,816 --> 01:33:56,902
We've agreed to establish
an independent science panel

1340
01:33:56,985 --> 01:34:01,532
comprised of three scientists who
have no relationship to either side.

1341
01:34:02,366 --> 01:34:05,828
This independent panel will
study the members of this Class

1342
01:34:05,911 --> 01:34:09,748
to determine whether C-8 exposure
has led to increased incidents

1343
01:34:09,832 --> 01:34:11,834
of disease in this region.

1344
01:34:12,626 --> 01:34:15,462
If the panel finds that there
are probable scientific links

1345
01:34:15,546 --> 01:34:18,966
to a particular disease,
the health of everyone in the Class

1346
01:34:19,049 --> 01:34:22,970
will be monitored for
that disease in perpetuity

1347
01:34:23,053 --> 01:34:26,473
at DuPont's cost,
up to 235 million.

1348
01:34:26,557 --> 01:34:29,351
And any Class member
who develops that disease

1349
01:34:29,434 --> 01:34:32,104
can sue DuPont for damages.

1350
01:34:32,938 --> 01:34:34,106
However...

1351
01:34:34,690 --> 01:34:38,610
If the science panel fails to
establish probable scientific links,

1352
01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:40,487
then this case is over.

1353
01:34:40,571 --> 01:34:44,116
No monitoring.
No lawsuits. No exceptions.

1354
01:34:44,908 --> 01:34:48,579
Good. Well, gentlemen, you are now
officially in the hands of science.

1355
01:34:49,913 --> 01:34:54,376
Well, wouldn't have
pegged you as a Mai Tai guy.

1356
01:34:55,252 --> 01:34:57,713
- It's festive.
- Wouldn't have pegged you for that either.

1357
01:34:57,796 --> 01:35:00,549
We have something to celebrate.
Yeah?

1358
01:35:00,632 --> 01:35:01,717
Do we?

1359
01:35:03,051 --> 01:35:06,847
Look, how do we know
that the panel's gonna prove

1360
01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:09,558
that DuPont made
all these people sick?

1361
01:35:10,309 --> 01:35:12,811
I'm no scientist,
but even I know you'd need

1362
01:35:12,895 --> 01:35:15,731
huge amounts of medical data,
not to mention

1363
01:35:15,814 --> 01:35:17,482
thousands of blood samples
and...

1364
01:35:17,566 --> 01:35:19,818
From people
who don't trust us.

1365
01:35:19,902 --> 01:35:23,197
"Hey, folks, we wanna stick you with
some needles. You won't mind, will ya?"

1366
01:35:24,364 --> 01:35:26,783
I know these people,
you know.

1367
01:35:27,492 --> 01:35:30,037
They're gonna
take the money and run.

1368
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:31,246
Wouldn't you?

1369
01:35:31,330 --> 01:35:36,001
I think they want more than just the money.
I think they...

1370
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,504
They wanna know if they're
gonna get sick or not.

1371
01:35:39,588 --> 01:35:42,591
Or if they have C-8 in their
blood, and what that's gonna do

1372
01:35:42,674 --> 01:35:45,093
to them and their families.

1373
01:35:46,345 --> 01:35:48,847
So, we're just gonna trust
that they show up?

1374
01:35:48,931 --> 01:35:52,392
- Trust, but verify.
- What does that mean, Rob?

1375
01:35:53,685 --> 01:35:56,730
Well, come in for an exam.

1376
01:35:56,813 --> 01:36:00,192
Um, give us a blood sample.

1377
01:36:00,859 --> 01:36:02,945
Then, we'll give you
your check.

1378
01:36:05,822 --> 01:36:07,908
On second thought,
make mine a Mai Tai.

1379
01:36:07,991 --> 01:36:08,992
All around, please.

1380
01:36:10,410 --> 01:36:12,537
- Rob Bilott.
- Yeah.

1381
01:36:12,663 --> 01:36:14,831
Where'd you pull that out of?

1382
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,542
Healthy drinking
water is vital to all of us.

1383
01:36:17,626 --> 01:36:20,712
That's why scientists need
to know if the chemical C-8

1384
01:36:20,796 --> 01:36:22,297
causes any health problems.

1385
01:36:22,381 --> 01:36:26,176
Starting today, you can help by completing
a health questionnaire and having...

1386
01:36:29,221 --> 01:36:31,014
Oh, come on!

1387
01:36:31,098 --> 01:36:32,891
...medical van's downtown.
Well, how about you?

1388
01:36:32,975 --> 01:36:36,979
- You gonna get your blood tested?
- Nah. I hate needles.

1389
01:36:37,062 --> 01:36:39,106
It's $400, buddy.

1390
01:36:39,898 --> 01:36:40,899
Really?

1391
01:36:40,983 --> 01:36:43,110
Got your attention, didn't I?

1392
01:37:11,722 --> 01:37:15,183
Okay. Okay.
All right. All right.

1393
01:37:15,767 --> 01:37:17,477
Yeah. That'll work.

1394
01:37:17,561 --> 01:37:19,229
We bring them back here.

1395
01:37:20,355 --> 01:37:22,858
Draw the blood,
hand them a check.

1396
01:37:22,941 --> 01:37:25,193
- $400?
- Each.

1397
01:37:25,277 --> 01:37:27,112
Lots of money around here.

1398
01:37:27,279 --> 01:37:29,031
How many you brought
with you today, Miss LUAnn?

1399
01:37:29,114 --> 01:37:31,491
My husband,
and my three kids, and me.

1400
01:37:31,575 --> 01:37:33,035
$2,000.

1401
01:37:33,118 --> 01:37:35,954
- Not too shabby right before Christmas.
- Yup.

1402
01:37:36,955 --> 01:37:39,041
But you ain't
gonna find nothing.

1403
01:37:39,124 --> 01:37:42,210
DuPont's good people.
You'll see.

1404
01:37:45,964 --> 01:37:47,424
Gigi, Gigi, Gigi!

1405
01:37:47,507 --> 01:37:50,510
It's your turn to put
the angel on the top.

1406
01:37:51,011 --> 01:37:53,388
- You do it, sweetie.
- Gigi's too pooped.

1407
01:37:53,472 --> 01:37:56,433
Why don't you get your Uncle
Ben to give you a boost?

1408
01:37:56,516 --> 01:37:59,478
- Ooh.
- Mom, you okay?

1409
01:37:59,561 --> 01:38:00,562
Yeah.

1410
01:38:00,645 --> 01:38:02,147
Seriously, it's huge.

1411
01:38:02,230 --> 01:38:04,149
They're gonna be making you
partner this year. I know it.

1412
01:38:04,232 --> 01:38:06,109
Well, they'd better.
I mean...

1413
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:07,986
Mommy, come see!

1414
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:09,154
Hey, baby,
did you hang that ornament?

1415
01:38:09,237 --> 01:38:11,239
- Rob, can you get that?
- Let me see.

1416
01:38:11,323 --> 01:38:12,532
Okay, I'm coming.

1417
01:38:16,536 --> 01:38:17,537
Hello?

1418
01:38:17,621 --> 01:38:19,998
- Rob, you sitting down for this?
- Larry, what's wrong?

1419
01:38:20,082 --> 01:38:23,502
- Sixty-nine thousand.
- Sixty-nine thousand what?

1420
01:38:23,585 --> 01:38:26,713
Sixty-nine thousand people got tested.
Sixty-nine thousand!

1421
01:38:26,797 --> 01:38:28,924
Do you realize
how much data this is?

1422
01:38:29,007 --> 01:38:30,342
It's what we needed, Rob!
This is it!

1423
01:38:30,425 --> 01:38:32,928
- Oh, my God.
- You were right all along, my friend.

1424
01:38:33,011 --> 01:38:34,429
- Merry Christmas!
- Thank you!

1425
01:38:34,513 --> 01:38:36,014
- You bet.
- Thank you!

1426
01:38:36,098 --> 01:38:37,391
Talk real soon.

1427
01:38:39,101 --> 01:38:41,061
- Hey, who was that?
- You won't believe it.

1428
01:38:41,144 --> 01:38:43,772
- Daddy, guess what I just did?
- What? What'd you just do?

1429
01:38:43,855 --> 01:38:45,690
I put the angel on the top.

1430
01:38:45,774 --> 01:38:47,150
- Yeah?
- Uncle Ben lifted me.

1431
01:38:47,234 --> 01:38:49,861
He did? Like this? Oh!

1432
01:38:49,945 --> 01:38:53,740
- Merry Christmas, everyone!
- Merry Christmas!

1433
01:39:08,547 --> 01:39:13,093
We are gathered here today
in the memory of Wilbur Earl Tennant.

1434
01:39:13,593 --> 01:39:16,471
"The Lord is my shepherd,
I shall not want.

1435
01:39:17,055 --> 01:39:19,724
"He makes me lie down
in green pastures.

1436
01:39:20,225 --> 01:39:25,063
"He leads me besides still waters.
He restoreth my soul.

1437
01:39:25,147 --> 01:39:28,650
"Even though I walk through the
valley of the shadow of death,

1438
01:39:28,733 --> 01:39:30,902
"I will fear no evil..."

1439
01:40:03,477 --> 01:40:05,103
Quick, everybody.
Mustard or ketchup?

1440
01:40:05,187 --> 01:40:07,355
Teddy, for the tenth
time, that's my ketchup.

1441
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,442
- Charlie, don't start.
- What? It's mine. I got it.

1442
01:40:10,525 --> 01:40:13,195
- He's got his own, okay?
- You're that lawyer.

1443
01:40:13,570 --> 01:40:14,738
Finish up.

1444
01:40:16,364 --> 01:40:20,118
My brother's Dale Lamb. You took his blood.
Said you'd help him.

1445
01:40:20,869 --> 01:40:23,413
Yeah, I did. We're...
We're working on it. I promise.

1446
01:40:23,497 --> 01:40:24,831
He's dead.

1447
01:40:26,583 --> 01:40:28,376
Testicular cancer.

1448
01:40:30,420 --> 01:40:33,048
Left three little boys
younger than yours.

1449
01:40:38,261 --> 01:40:40,472
But you enjoy your family.

1450
01:40:43,058 --> 01:40:44,059
Okay. Everybody up.

1451
01:40:44,142 --> 01:40:45,810
- I'm not finished.
- I said up.

1452
01:41:24,683 --> 01:41:28,228
Well, Darlene can't even leave
the house without being harassed!

1453
01:41:29,521 --> 01:41:33,191
First, they blame us
for suing DuPont,

1454
01:41:33,275 --> 01:41:36,736
and now they hate on us 'cause
they ain't seen nothing from it!

1455
01:41:36,820 --> 01:41:39,823
- I'm sorry, Joe...
- Well, that ain't good enough!

1456
01:41:40,073 --> 01:41:43,618
And they wonder why in the
hell it takes four damn years

1457
01:41:43,702 --> 01:41:47,163
to read a lousy blood sample,
and I don't blame 'em!

1458
01:41:47,581 --> 01:41:51,710
We trusted you, Rob.
We put our faith in you.

1459
01:41:51,793 --> 01:41:54,170
- I know, Joe. I'm so...
- All right?

1460
01:41:58,633 --> 01:42:02,721
Isn't there just some
kind of a progress report?

1461
01:42:02,804 --> 01:42:06,057
Anything that I can
share with these folks?

1462
01:42:06,141 --> 01:42:08,643
I mean, they...
They have been waiting.

1463
01:42:08,727 --> 01:42:10,145
I'm sorry, Mr. Bilott.

1464
01:42:10,228 --> 01:42:11,980
The Panel is still
in the process of

1465
01:42:12,063 --> 01:42:13,982
analyzing complex data
and modeling

1466
01:42:14,065 --> 01:42:16,818
from thousands of samples
and medical histories.

1467
01:42:16,943 --> 01:42:20,071
I'm so sorry. Could you hold a moment?

1468
01:42:30,248 --> 01:42:32,417
Charlie,
don't pick at your food.

1469
01:42:34,127 --> 01:42:35,378
What's a hooker?

1470
01:42:37,339 --> 01:42:39,090
Where did you learn that?

1471
01:42:39,174 --> 01:42:41,926
He told me that
Mary Magdalene was a hooker.

1472
01:42:43,678 --> 01:42:46,848
- What? She was.
- You're supposed to say prostitute.

1473
01:42:46,931 --> 01:42:49,351
And then
she found God

1474
01:42:49,434 --> 01:42:52,228
and became one of Jesus's
most fervent disciples.

1475
01:42:53,938 --> 01:42:55,315
See? I was just
teaching him the Bible.

1476
01:42:55,940 --> 01:42:58,401
I can't today.
So everybody up.

1477
01:42:59,027 --> 01:43:00,528
Everybody up!

1478
01:43:08,370 --> 01:43:11,581
- Can we still afford it?
- What?

1479
01:43:12,540 --> 01:43:13,833
Catholic school.

1480
01:43:29,641 --> 01:43:31,685
My brother's back in rehab.
Did you know that?

1481
01:43:34,646 --> 01:43:37,649
- No, I'm sorry.
- Today's...

1482
01:43:39,317 --> 01:43:41,778
Today's Mom's first day
at chemo.

1483
01:43:42,404 --> 01:43:43,405
I forgot.

1484
01:43:43,488 --> 01:43:46,241
'Cause it's not
about your case, Rob.

1485
01:43:46,491 --> 01:43:47,701
Car!

1486
01:43:47,784 --> 01:43:49,077
- Gosh.
- Okay. Jimmies.

1487
01:43:55,083 --> 01:43:58,837
Teddy forged my signature,
and Tony's quitting football. Tony.

1488
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:00,922
But how would you
know about that, right?

1489
01:44:01,005 --> 01:44:03,091
Because all you see,
all that you...

1490
01:44:03,174 --> 01:44:06,678
You... The boys have ever seen is
you, obsessing about this...

1491
01:44:11,182 --> 01:44:12,892
Have I ever complained?

1492
01:44:16,646 --> 01:44:19,524
Say something,
for God's sakes, Rob!

1493
01:44:19,607 --> 01:44:21,568
- No.
- No?

1494
01:44:21,651 --> 01:44:23,445
- No.
- No.

1495
01:44:24,487 --> 01:44:26,531
Because I knew that
you needed something.

1496
01:44:26,614 --> 01:44:29,367
Some connection...
Something.

1497
01:44:29,451 --> 01:44:30,452
And...

1498
01:44:30,869 --> 01:44:31,870
So I took it on.

1499
01:44:33,037 --> 01:44:37,000
But if you want to start accounting,
if you want to start with,

1500
01:44:37,083 --> 01:44:39,127
"Oh, can we afford," then...

1501
01:44:42,464 --> 01:44:44,174
I don't know, Rob.

1502
01:44:45,133 --> 01:44:47,886
Can the boys afford a father who
can't string two words together?

1503
01:44:47,969 --> 01:44:50,513
Can our marriage
afford 13 years of...

1504
01:44:50,597 --> 01:44:52,474
Thirteen years of this?

1505
01:44:55,143 --> 01:44:58,730
How about it, Rob? You wanna talk about it?
About our lives?

1506
01:45:02,901 --> 01:45:04,235
Of course not.

1507
01:45:05,987 --> 01:45:08,198
I'll tell Mom
you asked about her.

1508
01:45:11,159 --> 01:45:14,537
What in God's name is that Panel
doing? Why are we still getting bills?

1509
01:45:14,913 --> 01:45:17,165
Overhead. Uh...

1510
01:45:17,248 --> 01:45:18,333
Local counsel.

1511
01:45:18,416 --> 01:45:21,002
- Harry's call center...
- $1,000 an hour.

1512
01:45:21,085 --> 01:45:23,421
That... That was
a technical expert.

1513
01:45:23,505 --> 01:45:27,717
We needed to do filings when DuPont
started lobbying Washington...

1514
01:45:27,801 --> 01:45:29,511
That's Washington's problem,
not ours.

1515
01:45:29,594 --> 01:45:31,262
That's why you got them involved.
Your memo.

1516
01:45:31,346 --> 01:45:34,098
It was just a fine, Tom.
It's a fine. Sixteen million.

1517
01:45:34,182 --> 01:45:37,018
It's... It's nothing for these people.
It's pocket change.

1518
01:45:37,101 --> 01:45:39,479
Yes, but if they get charged with
criminal concealment, game over.

1519
01:45:39,604 --> 01:45:42,232
- You said DOJ was investigating.
- Not anymore.

1520
01:45:42,357 --> 01:45:44,192
- What?
- They dropped the investigation.

1521
01:45:44,317 --> 01:45:46,820
- They dropped... What?
- They dropped it. No reason given.

1522
01:45:49,656 --> 01:45:53,493
Tom, our government is
captive to DuPont.

1523
01:45:53,952 --> 01:45:56,788
This case,
it's the only hope we have.

1524
01:45:56,871 --> 01:45:59,290
They know that, and they're
trying to make it as expensive

1525
01:45:59,374 --> 01:46:02,168
as they can to force you
to make me stop.

1526
01:46:04,337 --> 01:46:06,214
- Just tell me how much longer.
- I...

1527
01:46:07,298 --> 01:46:10,760
I... I can't.
I... wish I could.

1528
01:46:12,345 --> 01:46:13,638
- Tom, I...
- Are you okay?

1529
01:46:13,721 --> 01:46:15,265
Um, I'm fine. I'm just...

1530
01:46:15,348 --> 01:46:19,727
Rob, I'm a Managing Partner
now. I have a firm to run.

1531
01:46:20,228 --> 01:46:24,065
I know. And Tom, I think there
could be a huge payout here...

1532
01:46:24,148 --> 01:46:25,525
You think
I'm in this for money?

1533
01:46:26,317 --> 01:46:27,443
- No, I...
- You think I am...

1534
01:46:27,527 --> 01:46:31,990
Letting you drag this firm's
reputation through a meat grinder

1535
01:46:32,073 --> 01:46:33,700
for some kind of
plaintiff's payoff?

1536
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,872
I... I don't know why you're doing it.

1537
01:46:43,126 --> 01:46:45,420
Rob, listen, I... I'm sorry,

1538
01:46:45,503 --> 01:46:48,089
but you're gonna have to
take another pay cut.

1539
01:46:48,172 --> 01:46:51,092
Tom, that's...
That's my fourth pay cut.

1540
01:46:51,175 --> 01:46:54,137
I... I'm down
to a third now.

1541
01:46:54,220 --> 01:46:56,472
You don't have any clients.
No one will take your calls.

1542
01:46:58,182 --> 01:47:02,437
What am I supposed to do here?
Now, I'm on your side, but...

1543
01:47:02,770 --> 01:47:03,771
Rob?

1544
01:47:04,689 --> 01:47:07,108
Amy? Amy!

1545
01:47:07,191 --> 01:47:09,193
- Kathleen!
- Get some help!

1546
01:47:09,277 --> 01:47:10,737
- Kathleen!
- Get some help!

1547
01:47:11,112 --> 01:47:13,114
Rob! Rob!

1548
01:47:23,333 --> 01:47:25,543
Looks like
we should, uh, cancel

1549
01:47:25,627 --> 01:47:28,755
my 4:00 with Jerry and...

1550
01:47:28,838 --> 01:47:31,424
I don't know.
We're waiting to find out.

1551
01:47:31,507 --> 01:47:32,592
It was, uh...

1552
01:47:35,762 --> 01:47:38,431
Make... Make sure that,
uh, Jerry knows that...

1553
01:47:39,766 --> 01:47:41,309
I... I have to go.

1554
01:47:42,185 --> 01:47:43,686
- Mrs. Bilott?
- Yes.

1555
01:47:43,770 --> 01:47:46,981
We think your husband's
most likely experienced a TIA.

1556
01:47:47,065 --> 01:47:49,275
A transient ischemic attack.

1557
01:47:49,359 --> 01:47:53,780
Blood is briefly cut off to the brain,
mimicking the symptoms of a stroke.

1558
01:47:55,281 --> 01:47:59,285
Uh, excuse me. A TIA?
This wasn't short.

1559
01:47:59,494 --> 01:48:01,871
It... It kept going on.

1560
01:48:01,955 --> 01:48:03,289
What about poison?

1561
01:48:03,915 --> 01:48:05,249
I'm sorry?

1562
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:08,002
Could someone
be poisoning him?

1563
01:48:08,086 --> 01:48:11,422
No, Mrs. Bilott.
This is neurological.

1564
01:48:12,090 --> 01:48:13,716
You just said
it wasn't a stroke.

1565
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,593
Well, not this time.

1566
01:48:15,677 --> 01:48:17,220
- What does that mean?
- Well, it means that

1567
01:48:17,345 --> 01:48:19,347
- he needs to never miss his medication.
- Mmm-hmm.

1568
01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:22,600
And needs to reduce all
sources of stress in his life.

1569
01:48:22,934 --> 01:48:25,269
He's under
enormous pressure at work.

1570
01:48:25,979 --> 01:48:29,190
Well, that needs to change.
But he's a young man.

1571
01:48:29,273 --> 01:48:30,650
He shouldn't be
having these incidences.

1572
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,320
He's sedated, but
you can see him.

1573
01:48:34,445 --> 01:48:37,699
- I'll check in on him tomorrow.
- Thank you. Thank you.

1574
01:48:45,289 --> 01:48:47,875
I'll give you
some privacy.

1575
01:48:49,752 --> 01:48:52,630
Anything you
need, call me.

1576
01:48:56,009 --> 01:48:58,720
I need you to stop making
him feel like a failure.

1577
01:49:05,184 --> 01:49:09,063
I appreciate the stress that your
family must be going through.

1578
01:49:09,147 --> 01:49:12,608
Please don't talk to
me like I'm the wife.

1579
01:49:16,362 --> 01:49:19,574
Did Rob ever tell you about
moving around as a kid?

1580
01:49:20,366 --> 01:49:21,909
I...

1581
01:49:21,993 --> 01:49:24,704
Ten times before
senior year.

1582
01:49:24,787 --> 01:49:26,831
No friends,
no ties, no...

1583
01:49:26,914 --> 01:49:29,459
Just him, his sister,
his folks.

1584
01:49:31,544 --> 01:49:33,796
Then I came along and
you came along and...

1585
01:49:36,257 --> 01:49:38,468
Taft, it's not
just a job.

1586
01:49:38,551 --> 01:49:41,471
To him it's...
It's home.

1587
01:49:45,224 --> 01:49:47,769
And he was willing
to risk all that

1588
01:49:48,061 --> 01:49:50,605
for a stranger who
needed his help.

1589
01:49:52,106 --> 01:49:57,111
Now, you and I may
not know what that is,

1590
01:49:59,322 --> 01:50:01,240
but it's not failure.

1591
01:50:35,566 --> 01:50:39,821
Lord, you have
searched my heart

1592
01:50:40,238 --> 01:50:45,243
And you
know when I sit and when I stand

1593
01:50:45,743 --> 01:50:48,955
Your hand is upon me

1594
01:50:49,038 --> 01:50:52,500
Protecting me from death

1595
01:50:52,667 --> 01:50:57,797
Keeping me from harm

1596
01:50:59,715 --> 01:51:05,888
Oh, Lord, I know
you are near

1597
01:51:10,309 --> 01:51:15,231
Standing always at

1598
01:51:15,314 --> 01:51:18,484
My side

1599
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,014
Hey, do you
know the score?

1600
01:51:49,307 --> 01:51:53,019
The game? Sorry,
my radio's busted.

1601
01:51:54,645 --> 01:51:55,938
Sorry.

1602
01:51:56,230 --> 01:51:58,191
Don't worry about it.
It'll be a surprise.

1603
01:51:58,482 --> 01:52:00,151
Bucky, come on.
We'll be late.

1604
01:52:01,986 --> 01:52:03,029
Have a good one.

1605
01:53:45,506 --> 01:53:47,842
Hey,
Rob, Bill Leary. We haven't met.

1606
01:53:48,342 --> 01:53:50,094
I'm the new comptroller
out of Indianapolis.

1607
01:53:50,428 --> 01:53:53,723
Listen, we need to talk about these
unbilled hours and these unreimbursed...

1608
01:54:10,406 --> 01:54:12,867
- Hello?
- Mr. Bilott?

1609
01:54:13,492 --> 01:54:14,660
Yes?

1610
01:54:14,744 --> 01:54:17,913
I guess I should start
by apologizing for taking...

1611
01:54:18,331 --> 01:54:20,583
well, seven years to call you.

1612
01:54:20,666 --> 01:54:22,668
- Who is this?
- Oh, yes, of course.

1613
01:54:22,793 --> 01:54:26,547
- It's Dr. Karen Frank from the...
- Science Panel?

1614
01:54:27,923 --> 01:54:31,719
Again, I'm so sorry to have kept
you waiting this long, Mr. Bilott.

1615
01:54:32,094 --> 01:54:34,847
- But there was just so much data...
- Please, Doctor, please,

1616
01:54:35,181 --> 01:54:36,182
can you...

1617
01:54:36,265 --> 01:54:38,476
Would just please
tell me what's happened?

1618
01:54:38,559 --> 01:54:41,270
What's happening?
What you've found out?

1619
01:54:41,354 --> 01:54:44,690
Yes. You gave us an
unprecedented amount of data.

1620
01:54:45,274 --> 01:54:48,277
The largest epidemiological
study in human history.

1621
01:54:49,028 --> 01:54:53,115
It's irrefutable.
We have linked sustained exposure to C-8

1622
01:54:53,199 --> 01:54:56,744
to six categories of
serious illness.

1623
01:55:01,624 --> 01:55:04,794
Kidney cancer,
testicular cancer...

1624
01:55:05,378 --> 01:55:08,130
thyroid disease,
preeclampsia...

1625
01:55:08,214 --> 01:55:10,966
high cholesterol,
ulcerative colitis.

1626
01:55:12,301 --> 01:55:16,097
3,635 people in the Class
already have these diseases.

1627
01:55:17,014 --> 01:55:18,808
Many more will
develop them.

1628
01:55:20,810 --> 01:55:24,146
Thanks to you the entire
Class will be monitored...

1629
01:55:24,230 --> 01:55:27,525
and those who get sick
can seek restitution.

1630
01:55:29,276 --> 01:55:32,780
You did a good thing here,
Mr. Bilott. You did good.

1631
01:55:35,491 --> 01:55:37,076
Thank you.

1632
01:57:30,105 --> 01:57:33,526
Rob? What happened?

1633
01:57:37,988 --> 01:57:39,448
Rob?

1634
01:57:41,700 --> 01:57:43,452
DuPont, they're
reneging.

1635
01:57:45,788 --> 01:57:48,082
- Which part?
- All of it.

1636
01:57:49,083 --> 01:57:50,626
They're tearing up
our agreement.

1637
01:57:51,001 --> 01:57:52,545
Rejecting the
Science Panel.

1638
01:57:52,628 --> 01:57:55,965
They're gonna fight
every claim in court.

1639
01:57:56,048 --> 01:57:59,552
Thousands of claims.
People, sick people, they'll give up.

1640
01:58:00,219 --> 01:58:01,554
They can't
fight DuPont!

1641
01:58:02,012 --> 01:58:04,765
How can they
go back on...

1642
01:58:04,890 --> 01:58:06,976
- Sarah.
- They can't go back on everything.

1643
01:58:07,059 --> 01:58:08,352
They're a titan
of industry.

1644
01:58:08,435 --> 01:58:09,687
They can do whatever
the hell they want.

1645
01:58:09,770 --> 01:58:10,938
Nothing else matters.

1646
01:58:11,021 --> 01:58:12,565
They can fight
you all they want.

1647
01:58:12,648 --> 01:58:14,316
It doesn't take away
from what you've done!

1648
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,653
Of course, it does.
That's exactly what it does!

1649
01:58:19,196 --> 01:58:21,323
They want to show the world
that it's no use fighting.

1650
01:58:21,407 --> 01:58:24,201
Look, everybody,
even he can't crack the maze

1651
01:58:24,285 --> 01:58:25,452
and he's helped
build it!

1652
01:58:26,453 --> 01:58:28,330
The system is rigged!

1653
01:58:29,623 --> 01:58:31,500
They want us to think
it'll protect us,

1654
01:58:31,584 --> 01:58:32,668
but that's a lie.

1655
01:58:32,751 --> 01:58:34,670
We protect us. We do.

1656
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:36,046
Nobody else.

1657
01:58:37,965 --> 01:58:40,676
Not the companies.
Not the scientists.

1658
01:58:40,759 --> 01:58:42,511
Not the government. Us.

1659
01:58:45,973 --> 01:58:49,143
A farmer with a 12th grade
education told me that.

1660
01:58:51,437 --> 01:58:55,816
On day one, he knew
and I thought he was crazy.

1661
01:59:03,157 --> 01:59:04,783
Isn't that crazy?

1662
01:59:09,079 --> 01:59:11,081
No.

1663
02:00:16,647 --> 02:00:18,273
All rise.

1664
02:00:18,482 --> 02:00:19,900
The honorable Timothy Burg...

1665
02:00:19,983 --> 02:00:23,445
United States District Judge for the
Southern District of Ohio presiding.

1666
02:00:23,529 --> 02:00:26,115
This court is now in session
pursuant to the adjournment.

1667
02:00:26,198 --> 02:00:27,908
Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye.

1668
02:00:27,991 --> 02:00:30,369
All persons having business
with this honorable court

1669
02:00:30,619 --> 02:00:33,497
draw near, give their attention
and they shall be heard.

1670
02:00:33,580 --> 02:00:36,333
God save the United States
and this honorable court.

1671
02:00:36,417 --> 02:00:38,001
Please be seated.

1672
02:00:38,085 --> 02:00:40,504
And we're here this
morning for a jury trial.

1673
02:00:41,130 --> 02:00:45,592
So, 3,535 claims.

1674
02:00:46,135 --> 02:00:48,387
At a rate of four
or five cases a year,

1675
02:00:48,470 --> 02:00:50,472
we can all expect
to be here till...

1676
02:00:51,557 --> 02:00:54,685
Well, the year 2890.
If we're lucky.

1677
02:00:55,561 --> 02:00:56,854
Guess we'd better
get started.

1678
02:00:57,521 --> 02:00:59,440
Mrs. Johnson, is your
attorney present?

1679
02:01:00,733 --> 02:01:01,734
Good morning, Your Honor.

1680
02:01:01,817 --> 02:01:03,026
Rob Bilott for the plaintiff.

1681
02:01:03,777 --> 02:01:05,863
Oh, still here, huh?

1682
02:01:06,822 --> 02:01:07,823
Still here.

1683
02:02:04,882 --> 02:02:09,882
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