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Right. This is the shape
of the business you work for.
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It is a failed, ******-up business.
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Unless you guys understand that,
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you'll never ******* make it
in this world.
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This was ******.
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{\an8}And it is over
as far as Sunderland are concerned.
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{\an8}After ten consecutive seasons
in the Premier League,
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they have been relegated.
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It's a new chapter for the club.
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If we approach it with the right manner,
promotion. Automatic. Win the league.
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Makes a mistake under pressure.
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And they've scored.
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- A myriad number of problems.
- Where's it gonna drop?
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Too many people at the club
that don't give a ****.
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He's a fortunate boy
to still be playing at the football club.
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- He scores!
- Scored again.
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Absolutely pathetic. We're sick of it.
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So you piss off.
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It's a lot of pressure.
No other way to describe it.
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You can **** off with your phone!
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This is the most intense crowd
in the whole country.
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It's terrifying.
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Sunderland is
a massive, massive footballing city.
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We're not talking about
Watford or Cambridge.
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We're talking about a working-class city,
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and the main talking point
is Sunderland Football Club.
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Hammers it
into the bottom corner.
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Unhappiness abounds.
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This club went
almost exactly 12 months
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without winning a single game here.
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No.
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Grayson out! Grayson out!
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Sunderland AFC has this evening parted
company with manager Simon Grayson.
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I think Chris will be a major milestone
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in the history of Sunderland Football Club
for years to come.
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All of my friends, especially the ladies,
are absolutely delighted.
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A fragmented, disillusioned,
disunited team.
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Just constant turmoil.
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{\an8}Misery at the Stadium of Light
as Sunderland were relegated
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{\an8}for the second straight season.
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- Well done!
- Well done, mates.
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Well done on destroying the club.
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Mate, hold on. Whoa.
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Just another sickening blow,
innit, really?
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Do you not think the fans have some right
to know what's going on with the club?
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Who are these new owners,
Stewart Donald and Charlie Methven?
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You'll see us.
I'll take charge of the football club.
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That piss-take party stops now.
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The spiral just went
down and down and down, you know?
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We need to get a plan, and we got to get
a plan quickly, haven't we?
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Deal after deal after deal after deal,
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where Sunderland have been
absolutely shafted.
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This football club is gonna kill me.
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A bit of turmoil
and a bit of turbulence.
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Out of the rubble starts to come change.
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Come on, lads! Come on!
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Oh!
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Come on, lads.
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Concentration.
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Morgan has given
Sunderland the lead!
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Drops then...
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Goal!
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Chris Maguire
in the 62nd minute!
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Sunderland are through to Wembley.
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I really do think I've got me club back.
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Sunderland is emotionally tough.
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Win this game,
and Sunderland get promoted.
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When it's good,
you are absolutely invincible.
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But when it's bad...
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it is a place of despair.
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Oh no!
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Charlton have scored.
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There's no way back for Sunderland.
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It means a second season in League One.
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Why is it never us celebrating?
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Why is it never us?
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♪ On the river
Where they used to build the boats ♪
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♪ By the harbour wall
The place you loved the most ♪
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♪ I can see you there alone ♪
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♪ But oh, you know ♪
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♪ I'll be there ♪
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{\an8}♪ Soon ♪
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{\an8}♪ All your life
You worked your fingers to the bone ♪
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{\an8}♪ You worked hard
For every little thing you owned ♪
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{\an8}♪ That you gave away for years ♪
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♪ As if you'd known ♪
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♪ They were calling out ♪
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♪ But if you could see me now ♪
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♪ And if you could see me now ♪
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♪ I hope that I'm making you proud ♪
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♪ I hope that I'm making you proud ♪
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♪ Proud ♪
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Honestly thought
we'd get promoted straight back.
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And it just didn't happen.
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{\an8}Sunderland Football Club, it's...
it's like a roller-coaster, man.
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You're up, you're down,
you're down, you're up.
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Of course,
Methven and Donald sold the club.
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Dreyfus took over the club,
and he's a multi-billionaire.
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One of the richest men
in Europe's took over the club.
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It's all going tickety-boo here.
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But he's only 23,
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so nobody knows what's going to happen.
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Oi, do you reckon we'll get
Luis Suárez from Nacional?
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- Speak to him about it.
- I am.
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So I know Juan Sartori
since a few years.
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They want Haaland, Mbappé,
and Jude Bellingham,
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so get the check ready.
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{\an8}We met in the Maldives,
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{\an8}on a tiny island,
where the staff used to play football.
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And I decided to join in,
and he decided to join in, so...
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And then we just kept seeing each other
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to play football
in different parts of the world.
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So basically,
I phoned him up just out of curiosity
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to see how... how things are going.
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He mentioned to me that the club's on sale
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and if I'm... if I'm... if I'm interested,
to take a closer look at it.
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That's when I really saw the size and the...
and the magnitude of the football club
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and... and the huge potential it has.
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If you associate age
with wisdom, then it's natural to wonder
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how the youngest chairman
in English football
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will get on at Sunderland.
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Kyril Louis-Dreyfus
is in his early twenties,
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but he's the new boss in the boardroom
at the Stadium of Light.
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Sunderland being out
of the Premier League
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now for six or seven years
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{\an8}and dropping into League One
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{\an8}is not a testament of a club doing well.
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With a young man running it,
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that will need to be given some proper
guidance and real-world experience
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about how the world looks
in English football.
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He may have a big bag
of Daddy's money behind him,
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but he also needs someone
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with football nouse
to give him some guidance
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and to be ensuring that the decisions
he makes are the right ones.
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At University of Bolton Stadium,
Nick Barnes and Gary Bennett.
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- Good afternoon, gentlemen.
- Good afternoon.
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It's the midway point
of the season,
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and every game is now critical.
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Only the top two clubs in the league
will gain automatic promotion.
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Sunderland are just holding on
to 2nd place.
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And with Bolton in 15th,
a win today is not only expected,
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but it's essential if they're gonna
keep up their push for promotion.
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Great atmosphere. And you've gotta
commend the Sunderland fans.
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They have filled up the South Stand,
pretty much.
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♪ Sunderland! Sun... ♪
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And Sunderland, of course,
will be in yellow and blue.
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Lee Johnson's got options,
got creative players there,
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but the foundations have got to be there
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in regards of defending.
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Long and direct
from a Bolton perspective.
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There's Charles!
Oh, it's gone all the way in!
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Oh!
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It's a calamitous start for Sunderland.
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Two-nil.
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And they've got a third!
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Too easy for Bolton.
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That's a-- Oh, it's an own goal!
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Fucking hell! What's going on?
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♪ Sunderland get battered
Everywhere they go...♪
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Sunderland fans,
they're already streaming for the exit.
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Bollocks.
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Oh, it's six!
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It's Bolton 6, Sunderland nil.
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Their biggest defeat in eight years,
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and their biggest defeat
at the third level of English football.
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Disastrous day for Sunderland
and for Lee Johnson.
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{\an8}Well, I have to obviously start
by making a humble apology. Erm...
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I'm so upset.
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It's the worst game of my career,
that's for sure.
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And, uh,
I don't feel like people deserve it.
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I don't feel like
the fans deserve it, of course.
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Uh, I feel for the staff, you know,
that work every minute of every day,
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and how hard they work at the AOL
to provide for the players and myself.
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And we've really let them down today.
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Welcome along
to the Wise Men Say podcast.
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Still drowning my sorrows from yesterday.
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Did we wanna see somebody after that game
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look like they were
about to burst into tears?
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Just unforgivable, really.
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Six-nil, couldn't believe it.
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{\an8}Players-- At one point,
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{\an8}the players just didn't even look
as though they wanted to play.
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{\an8}- It was just weird, wasn't it?
- Yeah, it was this weird day.
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As usual, it's like a total
emotional roller-coaster.
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'Cause at Christmas,
you're sitting second.
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{\an8}So you're thinking there's every chance
we're going to go up automatically,
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{\an8}then... then we fall off a blinking cliff.
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It's just unbelievable.
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How are you?
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- Kyril, lad, all right?
- How are you?
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I was extremely worried.
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And really, there was
a lot of pressure mounting.
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The match performance
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did not give me the comfort
that we were gonna get promoted.
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{\an8}You should not lose by those scores
with a team like we had.
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{\an8}Something is wrong,
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{\an8}and sometimes it's a message
to the people who make those decisions.
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But it's not now.
It's been three, four, five matches
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insisting on something that doesn't work.
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We've been seeing this coming slowly.
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So I said to myself,
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"We're not gonna make it.
We need to try and change things."
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Now to major news from League One.
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Sunderland have sacked
Lee Johnson as head coach
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following their six-nil thrashing
at Bolton.
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The manager has lost
his job.
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Give me a percentage of
how surprised you actually are with this.
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We've dropped six points
from the winning position.
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These are the things
the owners have looked at
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when they've made this decision.
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They will almost certainly
have somebody lined up,
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given the way it's been done.
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Nobody knows where it went wrong
with Lee Johnson. It just...
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It happened that quick.
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It was like, oosh, doosh... Gone.
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- Five, six, seven, eight...
- Three, four, five...
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Lee Johnson gave me everything,
really, as a new platform
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{\an8}to start my football career again,
especially at my age,
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{\an8}And I've got nothing but good things
to say about him.
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Five, six...
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And personally, I thought, "Ooh."
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"I don't know if... I don't know
if they've made the right decision here."
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That's what I thought. Especially
with being, what, third in the league.
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I know we lost six-nil to Bolton,
but football can change very quickly.
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We can start winning games again.
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And I just-- I'm very, very unsure
on-- on the decision they've made.
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But...
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Well, it's been
a roller-coaster seven days
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at the Stadium of Light
since last weekend's catastrophe.
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They've got rid of Lee Johnson.
and they're sitting in third place.
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But when that decision was made,
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I thought, wrongly,
that they had somebody lined up.
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That's-- That's the only way
I could see that making sense.
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We've got to get out this year.
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Any sort of consistency
gets you up this division though.
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{\an8}Aye, exactly.
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{\an8}The majority of Sunderland fans thought
we were too big for this league.
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{\an8}- We are.
- There's nay such thing.
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{\an8}- This is our lowest point ever in history.
- It is. It is.
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{\an8}- It can't really get any worse.
- Look at the last ten years.
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{\an8}We've had about a new manager
every six months?
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{\an8}- Aye. Sleeping giant.
- Sleeping giant.
243
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Been asleep for a while, haven't we?
244
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- Been hibernating.
- I was gonna say.
245
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- In a coma, ain't we?
- We'll see what happens today.
246
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Ha'way, lads!
247
00:14:10,015 --> 00:14:11,809
A lot of talk. 17 games left.
248
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If you're gonna get one
of the two automatic promotion places,
249
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you've got to win the majority,
if not all,
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of those 17 matches.
And this is the first of them.
251
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This is a critical game against the team
who are bottom of League One.
252
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Sunderland are
without a manager,
253
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so today, Mike Dodds is in charge
as caretaker boss.
254
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Ooh!
255
00:14:47,803 --> 00:14:49,179
Ooh!
256
00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:58,606
Winchester plays it over the top
here. Griffiths is in the penalty area.
257
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With his left, scores in the 22nd minute
for Doncaster Rovers.
258
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Down here.
259
00:15:06,947 --> 00:15:09,366
Oh and two-nil, Rowe scores.
260
00:15:10,492 --> 00:15:11,911
Unbelievable.
261
00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:14,747
I'm not surprised, Nick.
I'm telling you now.
262
00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,624
{\an8}- Lots of questions.
263
00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:19,460
{\an8}- Not many answers at the moment.
264
00:15:23,505 --> 00:15:27,009
It's a bad defeat for Sunderland.
And if they don't go up this season,
265
00:15:27,009 --> 00:15:30,262
it's not just a disaster
for the team and the fans.
266
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The entire city suffers.
267
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Other than me family and me friends,
268
00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:44,401
{\an8}Sunderland is the only other constant
in me life.
269
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It's been there
since the second I can remember,
270
00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:50,240
and it'll be there 'til the day I die.
271
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No matter what happens,
272
00:15:59,541 --> 00:16:02,169
you can't say anything else
but Sunderland is everything.
273
00:16:10,469 --> 00:16:11,679
It's a one-club town.
274
00:16:13,514 --> 00:16:16,892
So, if Sunderland are doing well,
then the town tends to be doing well,
275
00:16:16,892 --> 00:16:19,520
and the atmosphere is good,
and people are happy.
276
00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:23,482
If the club are doing badly,
then the town is doing badly,
277
00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:25,651
and people's mental health gets affected.
278
00:16:26,193 --> 00:16:27,987
People are depressed.
279
00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:32,241
When I get in the water,
280
00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,536
the cold water, it's just such a release.
281
00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:37,413
It's so cold
282
00:16:38,455 --> 00:16:39,373
that you're not--
283
00:16:39,373 --> 00:16:43,085
you haven't got time to think about,
like, the stuff that's on your mind.
284
00:16:44,211 --> 00:16:45,713
The stresses and strains,
285
00:16:45,713 --> 00:16:47,756
whatever you've got
going on at the minute.
286
00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:50,134
Your survival mode kicks in.
287
00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,012
You get taught from a wee age,
"Oh, just get on with it."
288
00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:56,223
That's a sort of "man up" scenario,
isn't it? You know what I mean?
289
00:16:56,223 --> 00:17:00,352
Our city's built on industry,
and that's what we are, aren't we?
290
00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:01,562
- We're just--
- Graft.
291
00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:05,399
We're... We're a product
of our, uh, environment.
292
00:17:05,399 --> 00:17:08,569
You know, hard, cold.
293
00:17:09,737 --> 00:17:14,450
As you lads know, I suffer pretty badly
with mental health issues.
294
00:17:15,033 --> 00:17:18,787
And things like
having a bit of a community...
295
00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:21,749
and whether that's
I have to get in the sea,
296
00:17:21,749 --> 00:17:24,626
or I need to go to the next match.
297
00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:29,506
I want to see who scores the next goal.
298
00:17:29,506 --> 00:17:33,594
And because I've been brought up
with just going to the match,
299
00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:35,053
and it's in me blood,
300
00:17:35,637 --> 00:17:39,266
there's something somewhere
that just drags you back from the brink.
301
00:17:45,981 --> 00:17:49,234
We've had some lean years,
like the last few years in League One.
302
00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:50,486
But for us,
303
00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:54,198
it's something
you can, like, throw your hope into.
304
00:17:59,828 --> 00:18:01,955
Daddy, daddy!
305
00:18:01,955 --> 00:18:05,167
Just three days
after their defeat to Doncaster,
306
00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:07,628
and Sunderland come up against
Cheltenham away,
307
00:18:07,628 --> 00:18:10,631
{\an8}still without a manager in place.
308
00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:13,342
{\an8}Big challenge tonight,
this game for Sunderland.
309
00:18:13,342 --> 00:18:17,888
Dodds comes out to further discussion
with Phil Jevons, as Etete finds May.
310
00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:19,223
Oh, and then scores.
311
00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:24,311
{\an8}Cheltenham Town
have beaten Sunderland 2-1.
312
00:18:24,812 --> 00:18:26,730
{\an8}It's a third defeat
in a row for Sunderland.
313
00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:29,024
It's heaping pressure
on Kyril Louis-Dreyfus,
314
00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:31,777
who needs to appoint a new manager.
315
00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:36,115
The fans want answers.
The fans want someone in place.
316
00:18:37,699 --> 00:18:40,327
And the other issue is this, Roy Keane.
317
00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:45,124
The whole thought of Roy Keane coming back
is an appetizing one for all of us.
318
00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,835
One thing is certain.
If Roy Keane comes back,
319
00:18:47,835 --> 00:18:49,378
there will never be a dull moment.
320
00:18:49,378 --> 00:18:51,630
Of course, everybody's gone Roy Keane mad.
321
00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:53,882
Roy Keane, where are ya?!
322
00:18:54,383 --> 00:18:58,595
Sunderland's conversion
from relegation candidates in the autumn
323
00:18:58,595 --> 00:19:00,472
to champions in the spring.
324
00:19:01,390 --> 00:19:03,684
Great story this, isn't it?
Sunderland fans will be excited.
325
00:19:04,434 --> 00:19:07,729
Looks like Roy Keane
could be on his way back as manager.
326
00:19:07,729 --> 00:19:09,189
I feel like he could do it again.
327
00:19:09,189 --> 00:19:11,066
With the squad we have,
he could do it again.
328
00:19:12,442 --> 00:19:15,028
He would kick some arse.
329
00:19:17,072 --> 00:19:19,908
{\an8}I find him funny, in all honesty,
like when he's on Monday Night Football.
330
00:19:19,908 --> 00:19:22,578
{\an8}He's got a good perception of football.
Been there and done it.
331
00:19:22,578 --> 00:19:25,539
I wouldn't let him on the bus afterward.
Get a taxi back to Manchester.
332
00:19:25,539 --> 00:19:28,292
I would be swinging punches at that guy.
333
00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:29,585
You do your job.
334
00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:32,379
Clearly,
quite an intimidating character.
335
00:19:33,463 --> 00:19:36,550
Lots of speculation
linking you with the Sunderland job.
336
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:39,094
I've got no control over that.
337
00:19:39,094 --> 00:19:41,680
So, uh, no comment.
338
00:19:48,937 --> 00:19:50,480
Back down through.
339
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,066
And work hard to keep these engaged
the whole time through.
340
00:19:53,066 --> 00:19:54,776
Good, and then... Yeah.
341
00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:57,029
So we're gonna go eights. Yeah.
342
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,780
- How's that feeling?
- Good.
343
00:19:59,656 --> 00:20:03,452
It was the first pre-season game,
I fell over, put my arm down.
344
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,955
As my left arm hit the ground,
it's just popped out.
345
00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:08,665
I was in agony.
346
00:20:08,665 --> 00:20:10,876
And the physio's
just kind of come on quickly.
347
00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:13,545
Uh, kind of tipped me over
and just pulled down.
348
00:20:13,545 --> 00:20:16,381
It's just gone...
and just gone back straight into place.
349
00:20:16,381 --> 00:20:18,967
And you're just gonna go--
Yeah, through your fingertips.
350
00:20:18,967 --> 00:20:20,844
Just lift those two weights, okay?
351
00:20:20,844 --> 00:20:23,013
So just reset for me. So basically...
352
00:20:23,013 --> 00:20:26,725
So after your first one,
there's an 85% chance of a re-dislocation.
353
00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:29,686
{\an8}But the season was about to start,
so we kind of thought,
354
00:20:29,686 --> 00:20:31,021
{\an8}"All right, what do we do?"
355
00:20:31,021 --> 00:20:33,857
{\an8}Uh, we didn't have time
to have three months out, you know?
356
00:20:33,857 --> 00:20:36,777
The gaffer actually turned around
to me and said, "I need ya."
357
00:20:36,777 --> 00:20:38,904
- Yeah, doing okay with that?
- Yeah.
358
00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:40,656
So I said, "Let's play on then."
359
00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:51,583
My shoulder coming
out became normal.
360
00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:56,046
I was going through games now
in survival mode.
361
00:20:57,798 --> 00:21:00,175
To pick up the points,
put it back in, let's go.
362
00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:06,848
I had people
trying to pull it out at corners.
363
00:21:10,352 --> 00:21:12,604
Their manager
was telling people to target me.
364
00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:17,317
That was probably the final straw for me.
365
00:21:19,486 --> 00:21:20,737
I needed the surgery.
366
00:21:22,406 --> 00:21:23,532
I'm all done!
367
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:26,201
Probably one of my lowest moments was,
368
00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:29,371
you know, I couldn't--
couldn't hold my little girl.
369
00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:33,959
And I couldn't play football.
370
00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:37,546
That's when the injury really hit me hard.
371
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,635
I sometimes came in,
people asked, "How you doing?"
372
00:21:43,635 --> 00:21:45,178
I said, "I'm great."
373
00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:46,722
But I wasn't.
374
00:21:50,517 --> 00:21:52,394
I just broke down in the basement.
375
00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:57,774
As a footballer, you get dropped,
you get told to work harder.
376
00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:00,319
You fall over, you get told to get up.
377
00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,490
When I got injured,
I just said, "Right, just keep going."
378
00:22:09,036 --> 00:22:12,581
And I think the biggest thing
from what I've learnt
379
00:22:12,581 --> 00:22:16,293
is that I think sometimes we need to stop.
380
00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:35,687
Okay, the breaking news is that Roy Keane
381
00:22:35,687 --> 00:22:38,607
is no longer in the running
for the Sunderland job
382
00:22:38,607 --> 00:22:41,651
after the two parties
couldn't come to an agreement.
383
00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:44,905
Yeah, Hayley, it's not the news
Sunderland supporters wanted to hear.
384
00:22:44,905 --> 00:22:48,784
But that move for the Irishman
broke down last night.
385
00:22:48,784 --> 00:22:51,036
Everyone wanted Roy Keane back.
386
00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:54,122
So it was like,
"Oh my God, here we go again."
387
00:22:54,122 --> 00:22:55,999
I'm so, so sick of it.
388
00:22:57,417 --> 00:23:00,337
Roy going into Sunderland
with this owner,
389
00:23:00,837 --> 00:23:02,798
who's finding his way
around the football world--
390
00:23:02,798 --> 00:23:05,425
Irrespective of how much money he's got,
391
00:23:05,425 --> 00:23:08,220
he's a young man, and you can't
buy experience. We've all been there.
392
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:10,263
Erm, you've gotta learn your trade.
393
00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:12,432
We need a manager in charge.
394
00:23:12,432 --> 00:23:14,476
Whoever does go through that door,
395
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:17,896
players have gotta react to that manager
as soon as he does walk through there.
396
00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:20,607
The Roy Keane potential at Sunderland
397
00:23:20,607 --> 00:23:23,151
played out much more in the media
398
00:23:23,151 --> 00:23:26,738
than it really did
in conversations that we had in the club.
399
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:30,200
The second we did make the change with--
400
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,994
I knew that there was gonna be
criticism in the moment.
401
00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:34,955
But the only thing that I tried to do
402
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:38,917
is to make the decisions that I feel
are the right ones for the football club.
403
00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:44,089
I think Roy Keane will have been fun,
definitely good for the Netflix series,
404
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:49,678
but maybe we had a third season
of disastrous finishing.
405
00:23:50,303 --> 00:23:52,514
I mean, I always thought,
and I say as well,
406
00:23:52,514 --> 00:23:54,307
when things are not going well,
407
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:58,061
it's really, really difficult
for the players to continue playing.
408
00:23:58,061 --> 00:24:01,398
When you are younger,
when you are not an insider,
409
00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:04,443
when you come
from a... a different situation,
410
00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:07,821
people look at you
with doubt and suspicion.
411
00:24:08,989 --> 00:24:10,949
Getting out of League One,
412
00:24:10,949 --> 00:24:14,744
some people say it's probably
the toughest league out there.
413
00:24:14,744 --> 00:24:16,746
And you immediately have the thoughts,
414
00:24:16,746 --> 00:24:19,708
"One more year in League One.
What does it mean for the people?"
415
00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:23,044
"What does it mean for the players?
What does it mean for us as owners?"
416
00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:26,256
So it's always nice
to be a little bit of an outsider.
417
00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:28,008
To have something to... to prove.
418
00:24:28,925 --> 00:24:30,969
And he will prove by results.
419
00:24:37,517 --> 00:24:38,852
You're gonna win, huh?
420
00:24:40,270 --> 00:24:41,396
Go, go, go! Quick!
421
00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:45,609
Being at this football club
in League One,
422
00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:47,694
there's that expectancy to go up.
423
00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:52,574
{\an8}And when you've got that pressure
of delivering for a full city,
424
00:24:52,574 --> 00:24:55,452
it can be difficult at times,
especially when it's not going well.
425
00:24:56,411 --> 00:24:59,539
Obviously, I played in all those seasons
426
00:24:59,539 --> 00:25:03,251
where we'd been relegated,
and... and I felt all that pain.
427
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:06,338
And I always wanted to achieve that goal
428
00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:09,716
of trying to get the club
back in the right direction.
429
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,055
Coming over as a ten-year-old boy
and then a 26-year-old man,
430
00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:16,348
it's a long time.
431
00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:19,643
It's all I've kind of known,
is playing for Sunderland,
432
00:25:19,643 --> 00:25:23,104
and this is the last six months of my...
of my contract at Sunderland.
433
00:25:23,104 --> 00:25:24,189
So it's...
434
00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:27,275
It's a chance to try
and earn a contract here
435
00:25:27,275 --> 00:25:29,194
and get back in the team and play well.
436
00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:31,571
'Cause I've got... I've got two kids,
I've got a young family.
437
00:25:31,571 --> 00:25:33,198
I've gotta make sure I look after them.
438
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:38,620
Sometimes, you think about,
"Is this where I'm meant to be?"
439
00:25:40,997 --> 00:25:42,040
Who knows?
440
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,047
Run. Come on, then.
441
00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:58,765
It's always daunting
joining a new club.
442
00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:01,851
I signed under Lee Johnson.
443
00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:05,397
Then obviously, Lee Johnson got sacked,
like, two days after.
444
00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:08,024
And I was thinking, like,
"What have I got myself in for here?"
445
00:26:08,024 --> 00:26:09,150
Quick one-two.
446
00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:11,736
And I was just thinking
it was just gonna be another, like...
447
00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:15,240
Like the loans I'd been on previously.
Like, a nothing loan, achieve nothing.
448
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,034
I was doubting it, to be honest.
I was doubting the decision.
449
00:26:20,370 --> 00:26:22,747
Like, I wouldn't say
morale was shit, but, like,
450
00:26:23,498 --> 00:26:26,167
things that you'd associate
with this club in the past
451
00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:27,669
were starting to, like...
452
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:30,338
Were starting to, like,
come back up again.
453
00:26:30,338 --> 00:26:32,215
And obviously, watching the documentary
454
00:26:32,215 --> 00:26:35,176
and seeing, like,
what went on behind the scenes,
455
00:26:35,176 --> 00:26:37,512
And I'd been told
that it's gonna be nothing like that,
456
00:26:37,512 --> 00:26:40,557
and then coming into it, and it's sort of,
like, it's feeling like that.
457
00:26:42,017 --> 00:26:42,976
So I was just like,
458
00:26:43,727 --> 00:26:46,146
Like, "Nah, I can't... can't with this."
459
00:26:47,897 --> 00:26:50,025
The key thing that changed
was we realized
460
00:26:50,025 --> 00:26:52,944
we're not gonna finish
in the top two anymore.
461
00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:55,989
Our metrics that we tracked
462
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:59,159
showed that the team
wasn't performing well enough.
463
00:26:59,909 --> 00:27:04,289
So we changed the strategy
from "how can we finish in the top two?"
464
00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:06,583
to "we need to finish in the top six
465
00:27:06,583 --> 00:27:11,379
and peak at the end of May
to win difficult playoff games."
466
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,133
Because the playoffs
are the last chance to get promoted.
467
00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:18,720
I felt that I have to try
and find a manager
468
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,348
who has experience at playoffs before
469
00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:22,766
and has also won them.
470
00:27:29,522 --> 00:27:31,649
- Is that him?
- Yeah, that's him.
471
00:27:34,444 --> 00:27:35,320
Yeah.
472
00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:40,325
Big news in the last half
an hour from League One.
473
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:43,620
Sunderland have appointed Alex Neil
as their new head coach.
474
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,790
It comes just days after Roy Keane
had walked away from talks,
475
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,917
having failed to agree personal terms.
476
00:27:48,917 --> 00:27:51,711
Sunderland reached
an agreement with Neil last night.
477
00:27:51,711 --> 00:27:56,132
The 40-year-old agreeing a rolling
12-month contract at the Stadium of Light.
478
00:27:56,132 --> 00:27:59,678
Neil has been out of management
since he left his role as Preston boss
479
00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:01,304
in March last year.
480
00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:04,224
And one more time. Nice and sharp...
481
00:28:05,767 --> 00:28:07,727
When you're out of work as a manager,
482
00:28:07,727 --> 00:28:10,772
you go from arguably being
the most important person in the club
483
00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:13,274
to then sitting in the house on your own.
484
00:28:15,193 --> 00:28:17,070
You're looking at results everywhere.
485
00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:18,988
You're looking at
what might become available,
486
00:28:18,988 --> 00:28:22,242
what might be
a next opportunity for yourself.
487
00:28:22,242 --> 00:28:25,036
{\an8}To be honest, I found out about
the Sunderland job like everybody else,
488
00:28:25,036 --> 00:28:26,246
{\an8}through Sky Sports.
489
00:28:27,622 --> 00:28:29,749
I'd been out of work for
about 11 months at that point,
490
00:28:29,749 --> 00:28:31,626
and I knew I needed to get back in
491
00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:34,504
because the longer you're out,
the more you're forgotten.
492
00:28:35,004 --> 00:28:37,048
So I just spoke to my agent.
493
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:40,885
I just said to him, "Listen, can we
find out if there's any interest there?"
494
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,763
League One wasn't really the level
I wanted to go to.
495
00:28:43,763 --> 00:28:46,307
You know,
I made that quite clear at the time. Uh...
496
00:28:46,307 --> 00:28:49,185
But I just felt the scope for this club
497
00:28:49,185 --> 00:28:51,771
and what I think it can become,
498
00:28:51,771 --> 00:28:54,190
I just thought was too much
an opportunity to turn down
499
00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:55,859
if there was an interest there.
500
00:28:57,152 --> 00:28:58,361
Come on.
501
00:28:58,361 --> 00:29:01,531
I think when a manager change
happens, there's natural disruption there.
502
00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:06,494
Lee, being the previous manager, had built
good relationships with some players.
503
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:09,747
Some of the key players were disappointed
that Lee had left at that point.
504
00:29:09,747 --> 00:29:10,749
Two.
505
00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:20,008
You need to try and take rid of all
the negativity as quickly as possible.
506
00:29:21,009 --> 00:29:23,928
I have a bit of a positive outlook
on where the team actually was.
507
00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:26,723
We weren't languishing
at the bottom half of the table.
508
00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:30,685
That was key for me
to make sure that I got that across
509
00:29:30,685 --> 00:29:32,145
and change that type of mentality,
510
00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:35,565
and change how we viewed ourselves
and what we're capable of doing.
511
00:29:37,859 --> 00:29:41,070
Alex Neil, he is
officially in charge of Sunderland today.
512
00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:44,616
They're looking over their shoulders at
those challenging them for a playoff spot.
513
00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:47,535
Alex Neil needs to turn things round
and do so quickly.
514
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:52,540
Up steps Luke McCormick,
515
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:54,542
and he puts Wimbledon in front,
516
00:29:54,542 --> 00:29:56,961
right in front of the Sunderland fans.
517
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,756
Free kick with his right. Curls--
518
00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:01,049
Goal!
519
00:30:05,386 --> 00:30:08,431
{\an8}Well, it's all over.
The full-time whistle blown.
520
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:13,019
{\an8}I thought we were naive in our play
at times. We know we need to do better.
521
00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:17,106
But listen, it's a platform in terms of,
we didn't lose the game, we got a point.
522
00:30:17,106 --> 00:30:18,942
Diabolical, again.
523
00:30:19,943 --> 00:30:23,363
One time, you would've put your mortgage
on we're gonna get promotion.
524
00:30:23,863 --> 00:30:26,407
But now,
this is as far as we're going to get,
525
00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:28,493
and another season in this league.
526
00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:32,455
I mean, the run doesn't get
any easier.
527
00:30:32,455 --> 00:30:34,082
We've got MK Dons coming up next week.
528
00:30:34,082 --> 00:30:36,167
But this team's gotta get
some momentum.
529
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:39,712
- Head into the playoffs on the upward.
- Absolutely.
530
00:30:39,712 --> 00:30:42,423
It's why this afternoon's game
is such an important one, as you said.
531
00:30:43,091 --> 00:30:45,134
Alex Neil,
his first game at Stadium of Light.
532
00:30:45,134 --> 00:30:47,971
Came out to a very muted reception.
533
00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:52,183
And it's put through for Eisa.
Eisa on the break here now.
534
00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:54,727
Eisa at the edge of the penalty area.
Rolls it in.
535
00:30:54,727 --> 00:30:55,853
There you go.
536
00:30:55,853 --> 00:30:56,938
It's one-nil.
537
00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:01,067
Wickham comes in and he scores.
538
00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:03,194
- Bottom right corner.
- [commentator 2] Unbelievable.
539
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:05,029
Horrendous.
540
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:09,075
{\an8}It's a massive victory for MK Dons.
541
00:31:09,075 --> 00:31:12,203
{\an8}A painful defeat for Alex Neil.
542
00:31:12,203 --> 00:31:15,206
Sunderland drop out
of the top six tonight.
543
00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:19,919
It's a big dent for Sunderland
in their promotion push.
544
00:31:20,795 --> 00:31:23,715
They don't know how to win.
You know, the confidence is shot.
545
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:27,427
The way we are sinking, you're not even
gonna get into the playoffs.
546
00:31:31,639 --> 00:31:33,933
Is this one gonna
be fired goalwards? It is!
547
00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:36,269
-
- Burton take the lead.
548
00:31:36,269 --> 00:31:37,812
{\an8}Boo.
549
00:31:37,812 --> 00:31:41,649
{\an8}To that reaction,
Alex Neil looks down towards the ground.
550
00:31:41,649 --> 00:31:43,443
We are totally embarrassing.
551
00:31:43,443 --> 00:31:45,361
There's gonna be
big questions asked.
552
00:31:45,361 --> 00:31:46,821
Not just of the ownership,
553
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:49,282
but the people making them decisions
on the football side.
554
00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:52,243
On the pitch, what is
your immediate reaction to tonight's game?
555
00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:53,620
Uh-- Erm...
556
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,789
I don't wanna repeat myself. It's hard.
There's certainly frustration.
557
00:31:57,874 --> 00:31:59,751
It's a reality check
about the season.
558
00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:02,086
What we've got to do now
is finish in the top six,
559
00:32:02,086 --> 00:32:04,172
take our chances in the playoffs.
560
00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:07,967
Well, the story here
is that they've failed to take advantage
561
00:32:07,967 --> 00:32:10,386
of a number of good chances.
562
00:32:10,386 --> 00:32:13,598
{\an8}You know, we keep saying
it can't get any worse.
563
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:17,518
{\an8}We should be talking about
how many goals are we going to win by,
564
00:32:17,518 --> 00:32:20,813
not, "Oh, if we've got a draw,
it's a good result!"
565
00:32:21,856 --> 00:32:25,944
People want answers again
about who is making the decisions.
566
00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:27,236
Well, who is?
567
00:32:27,236 --> 00:32:29,697
That's the question.
568
00:32:29,697 --> 00:32:31,532
Everybody's got an opinion.
569
00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:33,993
As a leader, you gotta hold your nerve.
570
00:32:34,869 --> 00:32:37,288
With Kyril,
you've got someone who's resolute
571
00:32:37,288 --> 00:32:40,667
{\an8}and believes in what he's doing
and in the approach we've taken.
572
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:43,461
{\an8}The most difficult thing I think to do
is when you make a decision
573
00:32:43,461 --> 00:32:46,339
{\an8}and choose to do something differently,
you gotta stand by it.
574
00:32:51,469 --> 00:32:54,138
Lean into your chest,
rebound as high as you can, yeah?
575
00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:56,182
Okay, yeah.
576
00:32:59,143 --> 00:33:00,937
Last one.
577
00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:05,650
Go on. Fast. Fast. Fast.
578
00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:09,028
You'll never see Luke down, ever.
579
00:33:09,028 --> 00:33:09,946
Like ever.
580
00:33:10,446 --> 00:33:14,117
It's, like, impossible how, like, positive
he is about life in general.
581
00:33:14,117 --> 00:33:15,660
Control that downward phase.
582
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:18,287
The last game,
we were playing Charlton at Charlton,
583
00:33:18,287 --> 00:33:21,791
and I wanted to start incorporating Luke
into the squad, but he wasn't fit.
584
00:33:21,791 --> 00:33:25,169
so I said to him, "Look, listen, I'd love
to take you down to Charlton with us."
585
00:33:25,753 --> 00:33:27,380
"Just want you to be in
amongst the players
586
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:29,841
because you're gonna be
important for the run-in in the games,
587
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,884
and you're gonna
get yourself in the team."
588
00:33:31,884 --> 00:33:34,679
And his reaction was, "I'd love it,
589
00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:37,390
and I'm gonna be the best
19th man you've ever seen."
590
00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:40,393
Go on, quickly, quickly, quickly,
Contact's good...
591
00:33:40,393 --> 00:33:41,894
That's infectious.
592
00:33:41,894 --> 00:33:44,063
And it's so good for the group
and so good for the team
593
00:33:44,063 --> 00:33:45,523
because he's such a team player.
594
00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:49,068
Off the back of that,
he trains really, really hard
595
00:33:49,068 --> 00:33:51,362
to get an opportunity
and be part of the team.
596
00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:55,450
We started real slow, built up confidence.
597
00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:57,493
That, he just puts in there
to laugh at me.
598
00:33:57,493 --> 00:34:00,496
- Does that mean I'm back?
- That means you're back.
599
00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:13,384
- How are we?
- Well deserved. Well deserved.
600
00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:15,219
Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
601
00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:17,096
How are we? Kev. Bosh.
602
00:34:17,972 --> 00:34:19,015
I'm back.
603
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:25,146
You know, of the remaining games,
what we've got left it's our cup finals.
604
00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:26,606
Starting tonight.
605
00:34:26,606 --> 00:34:30,568
It's a game which...
A draw's no good for us, you know.
606
00:34:30,568 --> 00:34:32,612
You know, we've got to look on it on the...
607
00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:35,865
if we want to get into that playoffs,
you've got to win tonight.
608
00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:39,911
Niall's been...
been to Wembley a few times.
609
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:43,706
He's, uh, seen quite a lot of defeats
during that time, unfortunately.
610
00:34:43,706 --> 00:34:45,124
Obviously, the top two is gonna be
611
00:34:45,124 --> 00:34:47,752
{\an8}a bit much for us to get now,
with other teams playing so well.
612
00:34:47,752 --> 00:34:49,587
{\an8}But hopefully,
we'll get in the playoff spots.
613
00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:52,673
This year, we'll be able to take him down
and see his first win
614
00:34:52,673 --> 00:34:54,634
in Wembley as a Sunderland supporter.
615
00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:56,844
- Scoreline?
- Uh, two-one.
616
00:34:56,844 --> 00:34:58,221
- Two-one?
- One-nil.
617
00:34:58,221 --> 00:34:59,889
One nil. Five-nil.
618
00:35:04,393 --> 00:35:05,937
Number nine
619
00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,773
will be Jack Clarke.
620
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,317
Number eight, Elliot Embleton.
621
00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:21,494
{\an8}...as the referee leads
out the two teams
622
00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:25,748
for a game that Sunderland
really do have to win.
623
00:35:25,748 --> 00:35:30,002
They've got ten games left this season,
and they're looking over their shoulders.
624
00:35:30,002 --> 00:35:33,339
They've slipped out of the playoffs again.
625
00:35:33,339 --> 00:35:37,385
And they can go back up
into the top six tonight.
626
00:35:37,385 --> 00:35:38,594
{\an8}Come on!
627
00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:44,225
But they need to get
in that top six,
628
00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:47,186
and they need to consolidate that top six.
629
00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:50,940
Come on, that's better!
630
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:53,401
Come on! Come on!
631
00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:58,865
- Come on!
- Go on, son!
632
00:35:58,865 --> 00:35:59,782
Come on!
633
00:36:00,283 --> 00:36:01,993
Go on, get it up the pitch!
634
00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:05,163
Wright. Played back,
passed well this time.
635
00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:07,790
This time and-- Harrison scores.
636
00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:09,542
Ha'way!
637
00:36:10,042 --> 00:36:13,004
Jesus Christ Almighty, man.
638
00:36:13,838 --> 00:36:15,131
Fucking hell, man!
639
00:36:16,382 --> 00:36:17,967
Well, it was a mistake.
640
00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:20,052
Bailey Wright puts his head in his hands.
641
00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:21,429
Harrison pounced,
642
00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:24,891
and in the 28th minute,
Fleetwood Town take the lead.
643
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:29,478
Fight now. Fight!
644
00:36:30,605 --> 00:36:33,691
...won just one
in eight league matches, Sunderland.
645
00:36:37,528 --> 00:36:38,946
Ha'way, lads.
646
00:36:48,331 --> 00:36:49,707
Go on, Jack.
647
00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:51,792
Clarke now,
dribbling into the penalty area.
648
00:36:51,792 --> 00:36:54,045
Low ball, punched away.
649
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:02,803
They've got it! Sunderland.
650
00:37:03,471 --> 00:37:06,557
- Has the ball gone in?
- Put in, I think by Elliot Embleton.
651
00:37:06,557 --> 00:37:08,267
- Embleton. Great stuff.
- Wow.
652
00:37:08,267 --> 00:37:09,810
Embleton gets the equalizer.
653
00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:12,271
Exactly the response
he was looking for.
654
00:37:12,813 --> 00:37:16,150
♪ Sunderland FC! ♪
655
00:37:16,984 --> 00:37:18,986
Now they've got to build on this.
656
00:37:22,281 --> 00:37:25,493
They've got steamed up.
657
00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:28,579
Here he comes.
658
00:37:33,793 --> 00:37:35,169
Get him on. I love him.
659
00:37:50,017 --> 00:37:51,602
- Go on. Go on, son.
- Go on, son.
660
00:37:55,856 --> 00:37:58,484
- Boo!
- What you doing, man? Fucking hell!
661
00:37:58,484 --> 00:37:59,402
Oh, you...
662
00:37:59,402 --> 00:38:01,153
- Hey, he fucking let it go!
- Two.
663
00:38:01,153 --> 00:38:02,530
- Two!
- Two of them!
664
00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:03,531
Two down--
665
00:38:03,531 --> 00:38:05,491
What's this arsehole doing?
666
00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:07,576
Come on!
667
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,078
Fuck off.
668
00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:11,831
- Now, go. Go!
- Come on!
669
00:38:11,831 --> 00:38:14,792
And O'Nien now heads it down
in the middle.
670
00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:18,462
Gets it to Clarke,
then gets it back now from Defoe.
671
00:38:20,756 --> 00:38:22,967
And now with O'Nien through to Defoe.
672
00:38:24,301 --> 00:38:26,762
Defoe's shot blocked.
673
00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:33,894
Luke O'Nien,
shot it into the bottom corner!
674
00:38:33,894 --> 00:38:37,648
And Luke O'Nien is back with a goal!
675
00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:40,776
And he's back
to give Sunderland a 2-1 lead.
676
00:38:41,485 --> 00:38:43,529
When that ball hit the back
of the net,
677
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:46,407
the emotion was just at an all-time high.
678
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:50,911
My teammates
that have just been there for me.
679
00:38:53,372 --> 00:38:55,583
{\an8}It was just magic.
680
00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:59,128
{\an8}It's a much needed win
for Sunderland,
681
00:38:59,128 --> 00:39:01,839
but they're still in a dog fight
to make the top six.
682
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,926
There are nine crucial games
until the end of the season,
683
00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:08,220
and the team finally has some momentum.
684
00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:12,224
♪ By far the greatest team
The world has ever seen ♪
685
00:39:13,517 --> 00:39:16,937
A bit of football now. Sunderland's
chairman, Kyril Louis-Dreyfus,
686
00:39:16,937 --> 00:39:20,733
has revealed that he doesn't hold
the majority of the club's shares.
687
00:39:21,233 --> 00:39:24,111
In fact, collectively,
the previous owners have more.
688
00:39:24,111 --> 00:39:26,405
Kyril Louis-Dreyfus only holds 41%
689
00:39:26,405 --> 00:39:29,366
and is not the controlling influence
within the boardroom.
690
00:39:29,366 --> 00:39:31,243
Fans feel hoodwinked.
691
00:39:31,243 --> 00:39:34,163
{\an8}What was believed to be a takeover
692
00:39:34,163 --> 00:39:36,207
{\an8}has turned out to be a makeover.
693
00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:38,793
It means nothing's changed.
694
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,087
It means we've been lied to,
it means we've been misled.
695
00:39:41,087 --> 00:39:42,380
It's just shocking.
696
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:44,924
What's-- What's going on?
It's just a big mystery.