1 00:00:07,374 --> 00:00:11,708 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:11,774 --> 00:00:12,341 >> Liz: I NEVER APPRECIATED THE 3 00:00:12,407 --> 00:00:12,941 GAME UNTIL I STARTED WATCHING 4 00:00:13,007 --> 00:00:13,541 BASKETBALL IN SLOW MOTION. 5 00:00:13,607 --> 00:00:14,274 >> Jason: I DON'T, I WATCH 6 00:00:14,341 --> 00:00:15,307 COMEDY WITH THE SOUND OFF. 7 00:00:15,374 --> 00:00:16,074 >> Liz: [LAUGHS] 8 00:00:16,140 --> 00:00:16,641 >> Maverick: REALLY? 9 00:00:16,708 --> 00:00:17,074 >> Jason: FOR REAL. 10 00:00:17,140 --> 00:00:17,607 FOR REAL. 11 00:00:17,674 --> 00:00:18,140 >> Carmelo: I WATCH GAMES 12 00:00:18,207 --> 00:00:18,574 WITHOUT THE SOUND. 13 00:00:18,641 --> 00:00:19,474 IT'S THE SAME THING. 14 00:00:19,541 --> 00:00:20,341 >> Maverick: I WISH I HAD THAT 15 00:00:20,407 --> 00:00:20,908 WITH MY THREE-YEAR-OLD SON, 16 00:00:20,974 --> 00:00:21,541 WHERE I CAN ENJOY HIM WITH THE 17 00:00:21,607 --> 00:00:21,808 SOUND OFF. 18 00:00:21,874 --> 00:00:22,074 [LAUGHTER] 19 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:26,674 >> Jason: RIGHT. 20 00:00:26,741 --> 00:00:27,574 >> Maverick: I WISH I HAD THAT. 21 00:00:27,641 --> 00:00:28,207 I'M LIKE, "GET THIS NIGGA OUT OF 22 00:00:28,274 --> 00:00:29,407 HERE." 23 00:00:29,474 --> 00:00:31,874 [LAUGHTER] 24 00:00:31,941 --> 00:00:32,541 ♪ ALLS MY LIFE I HAS TO FIGHT, 25 00:00:32,607 --> 00:00:32,941 NIGGA ♪ 26 00:00:33,007 --> 00:00:36,374 ♪ ALLS MY LIFE I ♪ 27 00:00:36,441 --> 00:00:37,240 ♪ HOMIE, YOU FUCKED UP ♪ 28 00:00:37,307 --> 00:00:37,908 ♪ BUT IF GOD GOT US THEN WE GON' 29 00:00:37,974 --> 00:00:38,774 BE ALRIGHT ♪ 30 00:00:38,841 --> 00:00:39,808 ♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 31 00:00:39,874 --> 00:00:41,674 ♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 32 00:00:41,741 --> 00:00:43,274 ♪ WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 33 00:00:43,341 --> 00:00:44,741 ♪ DO YOU HEAR ME, DO YOU FEEL 34 00:00:44,808 --> 00:00:45,808 ME, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 35 00:00:45,874 --> 00:00:48,674 ♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 36 00:00:48,741 --> 00:00:50,341 ♪ HUH, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 37 00:00:50,407 --> 00:00:51,641 ♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 38 00:00:51,708 --> 00:00:52,741 ♪ DO YOU HEAR ME, DO YOU FEEL 39 00:00:52,808 --> 00:00:54,974 ME, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪ 40 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,607 ♪ UH, AND WHEN I WAKE UP ♪ 41 00:00:56,674 --> 00:00:59,974 ♪ I RECOGNIZE YOU'RE LOOKIN' AT 42 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,374 ME FOR THE PAY CUT ♪ 43 00:01:02,441 --> 00:01:03,040 >> Paul: JASON, YOU USED TO HOOP 44 00:01:03,107 --> 00:01:03,474 BACK IN THE DAY. 45 00:01:03,541 --> 00:01:03,908 >> Jason: YEAH, WHY? 46 00:01:03,974 --> 00:01:04,474 YOU WANT TO GO, WHAT ARE WE 47 00:01:04,541 --> 00:01:04,674 DOING? 48 00:01:04,741 --> 00:01:06,374 GOT A HOOP? 49 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:06,974 >> Paul: GIVE US A COMP TO 50 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:07,574 SOMEONE IN THE NBA TODAY, LIKE 51 00:01:07,641 --> 00:01:07,908 YOUR GAME. 52 00:01:07,974 --> 00:01:09,307 >> Jason: JASON WILLIAMS. 53 00:01:09,374 --> 00:01:09,908 WHEN -- WHEN PEOPLE SAY JASON 54 00:01:09,974 --> 00:01:10,341 WILLIAMS. 55 00:01:10,407 --> 00:01:11,240 >> Paul: LIKE WHITE CHOCOLATE? 56 00:01:11,307 --> 00:01:12,541 >> Jason: YES, OH, MY GOD. 57 00:01:12,607 --> 00:01:14,574 [LAUGHTER] 58 00:01:14,641 --> 00:01:16,541 MY COACHES HATED ME. 59 00:01:16,607 --> 00:01:17,107 "JASON, JUST THROW THE EASY 60 00:01:17,174 --> 00:01:17,641 PASS." 61 00:01:17,708 --> 00:01:18,841 AND I WAS JUST LIKE, "WHY?" 62 00:01:18,908 --> 00:01:19,474 >> Carmelo: OH, YOU DONE -- YOU 63 00:01:19,541 --> 00:01:20,074 DONE LOOK AWAY FOR NO REASON. 64 00:01:20,140 --> 00:01:21,040 >> Jason: OH, NO REASON. 65 00:01:21,107 --> 00:01:22,207 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THEY 66 00:01:22,274 --> 00:01:22,808 ASK ACTORS, YOU KNOW, DID YOU 67 00:01:22,874 --> 00:01:23,341 ALWAYS WANT TO BE AN ACTOR 68 00:01:23,407 --> 00:01:24,474 GROWING UP? 69 00:01:24,541 --> 00:01:26,641 IT'S LIKE, I DON'T THINK SO. 70 00:01:26,708 --> 00:01:27,274 BUT I KNEW I LIKED SHOWMANSHIP. 71 00:01:27,341 --> 00:01:28,307 [LAUGHTER] 72 00:01:28,374 --> 00:01:29,641 SO, LIKE. 73 00:01:29,708 --> 00:01:30,341 >> Paul: J. WILL, I DIDN'T 74 00:01:30,407 --> 00:01:31,641 EXPECT THAT, OKAY. 75 00:01:31,708 --> 00:01:33,974 >> Maverick: THAT'S A GOOD ONE. 76 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,708 >> Jason: WHEN YOU -- WHAT WOULD 77 00:01:34,774 --> 00:01:35,107 YOU HAVE THOUGHT? 78 00:01:35,174 --> 00:01:37,441 "STOCKTON, YOU SON OF A BITCH." 79 00:01:37,507 --> 00:01:38,107 [LAUGHTER] 80 00:01:38,174 --> 00:01:38,741 WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING, BY THE 81 00:01:38,808 --> 00:01:39,874 WAY. 82 00:01:39,941 --> 00:01:40,441 >> Maverick: NO, NOT AT ALL. 83 00:01:40,507 --> 00:01:40,974 >> Jason: NOT A BAD THING. 84 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,240 A LEGEND. 85 00:01:41,307 --> 00:01:41,808 >> Maverick: LET ME ASK THE 86 00:01:41,874 --> 00:01:42,441 QUESTION. 87 00:01:42,507 --> 00:01:43,574 WHEN YOU WANT TO BE AN ACTOR, A 88 00:01:43,641 --> 00:01:44,541 MUSICIAN, DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK, 89 00:01:44,607 --> 00:01:45,240 LIKE, I WANT TO BE FAMOUS? 90 00:01:45,307 --> 00:01:46,040 YOU WANTED TO BE FAMOUS? 91 00:01:46,107 --> 00:01:46,641 >> Jack: IT WAS ALWAYS PART OF 92 00:01:46,708 --> 00:01:46,941 THE PACKAGE. 93 00:01:47,007 --> 00:01:47,541 >> Maverick: IT WAS IN THE -- 94 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:49,641 RIGHT? 95 00:01:49,708 --> 00:01:50,240 >> Jack: BUT I GREW UP IN -- I 96 00:01:50,307 --> 00:01:50,808 GREW UP AN ATTENTION WHORE. 97 00:01:50,874 --> 00:01:51,207 >> Maverick: YEAH. 98 00:01:51,274 --> 00:01:51,841 >> Jack: I'M AN ATTENTION WHORE. 99 00:01:51,908 --> 00:01:52,441 >> Maverick: FAMOUS IS ALWAYS 100 00:01:52,507 --> 00:01:53,040 WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE. 101 00:01:53,107 --> 00:01:54,007 >> Jack: WELL, I LOVE THE CRAFT, 102 00:01:54,074 --> 00:01:55,941 SO IT WAS A SPLIT. 103 00:01:56,007 --> 00:01:56,808 IT WASN'T LIKE I WAS ONLY IN IT 104 00:01:56,874 --> 00:01:58,240 FOR THE FAME BUT, OF COURSE, 105 00:01:58,307 --> 00:01:59,441 LIKE YOU SAID, I KNEW THAT WAS 106 00:01:59,507 --> 00:02:00,541 PART OF WHAT WAS GOING TO COME 107 00:02:00,607 --> 00:02:01,174 WITH IT AND I WAS AT PEACE WITH 108 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:01,374 THAT. 109 00:02:01,441 --> 00:02:02,007 I WAS LIKE, "LET'S MAKE IT 110 00:02:02,074 --> 00:02:02,407 HAPPEN." 111 00:02:02,474 --> 00:02:03,040 >> Maverick: YOU'RE LIKE, "FUCK 112 00:02:03,107 --> 00:02:03,708 IT, LET'S GO." 113 00:02:03,774 --> 00:02:04,874 >> Jack: YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S 114 00:02:04,941 --> 00:02:05,474 VALUABLE THINGS YOU COULD DO 115 00:02:05,541 --> 00:02:05,841 WITH INFLUENCE. 116 00:02:05,908 --> 00:02:06,674 >> Maverick: THAT'S TRUE. 117 00:02:06,741 --> 00:02:07,441 >> Jack: I LIKE BEING SOMEBODY 118 00:02:07,507 --> 00:02:08,074 THAT HAS A VOICE AND A PLATFORM. 119 00:02:08,140 --> 00:02:08,607 TO ME, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. 120 00:02:08,674 --> 00:02:09,607 >> Maverick: YEP. 121 00:02:09,674 --> 00:02:10,207 >> Liz: I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE 122 00:02:10,274 --> 00:02:10,541 FAMOUS. 123 00:02:10,607 --> 00:02:11,507 >> Maverick: REALLY? 124 00:02:11,574 --> 00:02:12,574 >> Paul: SHE'S A STAR, MAN, 125 00:02:12,641 --> 00:02:13,174 SHE'S A STAR. 126 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,074 >> Maverick: SHE'S A STAR. 127 00:02:15,140 --> 00:02:15,841 >> Liz: I'M AN ONLY CHILD. 128 00:02:15,908 --> 00:02:17,407 LIKE, MY WHOLE LIFE WAS PUTTING 129 00:02:17,474 --> 00:02:18,274 ON SHOWS IN THE LIVING ROOM, 130 00:02:18,341 --> 00:02:18,874 SINGING, DANCING. 131 00:02:18,941 --> 00:02:21,207 LIKE, I FEED OFF THE CROWD. 132 00:02:21,274 --> 00:02:24,474 I JUST FELL INTO BASKETBALL. 133 00:02:24,541 --> 00:02:25,741 I JUST KNEW WHEREVER I WANTED TO 134 00:02:25,808 --> 00:02:26,341 DO, I WOULD END UP DOING IT IN 135 00:02:26,407 --> 00:02:27,341 FRONT OF A CROWD. 136 00:02:27,407 --> 00:02:27,941 >> Jack: SO REAL. 137 00:02:28,007 --> 00:02:28,874 >> Liz: YEAH. 138 00:02:28,941 --> 00:02:29,507 >> Jason: THAT'S A PETE MARAVICH 139 00:02:29,574 --> 00:02:30,274 THING. 140 00:02:30,341 --> 00:02:31,240 LIKE, HE WAS ALL, YOU KNOW, HE 141 00:02:31,307 --> 00:02:32,207 BELIEVED IN SHOWTIME BEFORE THE, 142 00:02:32,274 --> 00:02:32,708 LIKE, THE LAKERS BECAME 143 00:02:32,774 --> 00:02:33,441 SHOWTIME. 144 00:02:33,507 --> 00:02:34,207 >> Liz: YEAH. 145 00:02:34,274 --> 00:02:34,941 >> Jason: LIKE HE WAS -- HE WAS 146 00:02:35,007 --> 00:02:35,874 THAT DUDE. 147 00:02:35,941 --> 00:02:36,607 IT WAS JUST LIKE, "LET'S GIVE 148 00:02:36,674 --> 00:02:37,240 HIM A SHOW." 149 00:02:37,307 --> 00:02:37,874 >> Liz: THAT'S WHAT WE YELL OUT 150 00:02:37,941 --> 00:02:42,708 IN VEGAS. 151 00:02:42,774 --> 00:02:45,040 LIKE, IT'S VEGAS, BABY. 152 00:02:45,107 --> 00:02:45,307 LIKE. 153 00:02:45,374 --> 00:02:49,107 [LAUGHTER] 154 00:02:49,174 --> 00:02:49,874 WE'RE PUTTING ON A SHOW TONIGHT. 155 00:02:49,941 --> 00:02:50,674 THE HOUSE IS LIT. 156 00:02:50,741 --> 00:02:51,474 YOU CAN'T COME TO VEGAS AND GO 157 00:02:51,541 --> 00:02:51,874 WATCH LIKE A, NO. 158 00:02:51,941 --> 00:02:52,474 >> Maverick: WHAT ABOUT YOU, 159 00:02:52,541 --> 00:02:53,641 MEL? 160 00:02:53,708 --> 00:02:54,908 FAME, YOU? 161 00:02:55,007 --> 00:02:55,574 >> Carmelo: I AIN'T NEVER THINK 162 00:02:55,641 --> 00:02:55,874 ABOUT FAME. 163 00:02:55,941 --> 00:02:56,507 >> Maverick: YOU JUST WANTED TO 164 00:02:56,574 --> 00:02:56,808 HOOP, RIGHT? 165 00:02:56,874 --> 00:02:57,641 >> Carmelo: I JUST WANTED TO 166 00:02:57,708 --> 00:02:58,307 HOOP, PLAY BALL, TAKE CARE OF MY 167 00:02:58,374 --> 00:02:58,908 PEOPLE, THAT WAS IT. 168 00:02:58,974 --> 00:02:59,507 >> Paul: THE FAME FOUND YOU AT 169 00:02:59,574 --> 00:03:00,341 17. 170 00:03:00,407 --> 00:03:01,774 >> Carmelo: I WAS, I WAS. 171 00:03:01,841 --> 00:03:02,341 >> Jason: THAT'S WHAT I WAS 172 00:03:02,407 --> 00:03:02,674 GOING TO SAY. 173 00:03:02,741 --> 00:03:04,207 >> Carmelo: I WAS, I WAS. 174 00:03:04,274 --> 00:03:04,641 >> Jason: YEAH. 175 00:03:04,708 --> 00:03:05,274 >> Carmelo: FAMOUS ON MY BLOCK. 176 00:03:05,341 --> 00:03:05,474 RIGHT. 177 00:03:05,541 --> 00:03:06,474 >> Paul: THAT COUNTS, THOUGH. 178 00:03:06,541 --> 00:03:07,074 >> Carmelo: THAT FAME, TO ME, 179 00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:08,307 WAS BIGGER THAN ANY OTHER FAME. 180 00:03:08,374 --> 00:03:08,874 >> Jack: BUT DID IT VALIDATE 181 00:03:08,941 --> 00:03:09,441 YOU, DID YOU ENJOY THAT? 182 00:03:09,507 --> 00:03:10,607 >> Carmelo: HELL YEAH. 183 00:03:10,674 --> 00:03:11,274 >> Jack: HAVE YOU GROWN TO ENJOY 184 00:03:11,341 --> 00:03:11,741 THE FAME YOU HAVE NOW? 185 00:03:11,808 --> 00:03:12,140 >> Liz: [LAUGHS] 186 00:03:12,207 --> 00:03:12,674 >> Carmelo: COME ON, MAN. 187 00:03:12,741 --> 00:03:13,107 YEAH, OF COURSE. 188 00:03:13,174 --> 00:03:13,941 [LAUGHTER] 189 00:03:14,007 --> 00:03:16,341 >> Jack: WE JUST HAD TO HEAR YOU 190 00:03:16,407 --> 00:03:16,974 SAY IT. 191 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,641 YOU'RE MAKING US SOUND LIKE -- 192 00:03:18,708 --> 00:03:19,974 >> Carmelo: YOU GOT TO 193 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:20,607 UNDERSTAND, LIKE AT FIRST, NBA 194 00:03:20,674 --> 00:03:22,074 WASN'T A DREAM OF MINE. 195 00:03:22,140 --> 00:03:23,474 LIKE, I JUST -- I PLAY BALL 196 00:03:23,541 --> 00:03:24,607 BECAUSE I WAS GOOD. 197 00:03:24,674 --> 00:03:26,107 I WAS HOOD FAMOUS AT THAT. 198 00:03:26,174 --> 00:03:29,207 IF I DID SOMETHING AND WENT BACK 199 00:03:29,274 --> 00:03:31,040 TO THE HOOD AND IT WAS LOVE, 200 00:03:31,107 --> 00:03:32,974 THAT'S ALL I CARED ABOUT. 201 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,207 >> Maverick: WHAT'S THE 202 00:03:34,274 --> 00:03:35,074 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAME LIKE NOW 203 00:03:35,140 --> 00:03:36,240 YOU GOT, AND HOOD FAME? 204 00:03:36,307 --> 00:03:36,841 BECAUSE WE ALL LOVE HOOD FAME. 205 00:03:36,908 --> 00:03:48,541 I LOVE HOOD FAME. 206 00:03:48,607 --> 00:03:51,174 >> Carmelo: THEY DON'T GO 207 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,407 TOGETHER. 208 00:03:52,474 --> 00:03:52,974 LIKE, IF I WENT BACK TO THE 209 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:53,507 BLOCK, IT'S LIKE, "YO, YOU 210 00:03:53,574 --> 00:03:56,741 TRYING TO BE." 211 00:03:56,808 --> 00:03:57,774 OH, YOU HOLLYWOOD, 212 00:03:57,841 --> 00:04:01,240 RIGHT? 213 00:04:01,307 --> 00:04:02,641 THERE'S SO MANY OTHER STATES, 214 00:04:02,708 --> 00:04:04,741 WHY YOU GOING TO 215 00:04:04,808 --> 00:04:05,174 SAY, I'M HOLLYWOOD? 216 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,007 >> Maverick: YEAH. 217 00:04:06,074 --> 00:04:06,607 EXACTLY. 218 00:04:06,674 --> 00:04:07,140 >> Carmelo: I'M OUT HERE. 219 00:04:07,207 --> 00:04:07,808 I'M TRAVELING THE WORLD BUT THEN 220 00:04:07,874 --> 00:04:08,307 I COME BACK TO YOU ALL. 221 00:04:08,374 --> 00:04:08,908 HOW YOU GOING TO TELL ME I'M 222 00:04:08,974 --> 00:04:09,174 HOLLYWOOD? 223 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:09,774 >> Jason: IT'S LIKE SURVIVOR'S 224 00:04:09,841 --> 00:04:11,274 REMORSE. 225 00:04:11,341 --> 00:04:11,841 >> Maverick: IT'S SURVIVOR'S 226 00:04:11,908 --> 00:04:13,140 REMORSE. 227 00:04:13,207 --> 00:04:15,708 >> Carmelo: EXACTLY. 228 00:04:15,774 --> 00:04:16,341 >> Carmelo: BECAUSE YOU GOT TO 229 00:04:16,407 --> 00:04:17,007 GO BACK AND YOU GOT TO MAKE THEM 230 00:04:17,074 --> 00:04:17,541 FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU. 231 00:04:17,607 --> 00:04:18,274 >> Jason: YEP. 232 00:04:18,341 --> 00:04:18,874 >> Carmelo: LIKE, YOU GOT TO 233 00:04:18,941 --> 00:04:19,474 MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A 234 00:04:19,541 --> 00:04:20,074 PART OF WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON, 235 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:20,641 BECAUSE WE GOT IT TOGETHER. 236 00:04:20,708 --> 00:04:21,607 >> Paul: IS THERE A WORLD, 237 00:04:21,674 --> 00:04:22,441 'MELO, WHERE YOU'RE TOO FAMOUS 238 00:04:22,507 --> 00:04:23,007 FOR THE HOOD BUT NOT FAMOUS 239 00:04:23,074 --> 00:04:23,441 ENOUGH FOR THE FAME? 240 00:04:23,507 --> 00:04:23,874 >> Carmelo: FOREVER. 241 00:04:23,941 --> 00:04:24,607 MAV KNOW THIS. 242 00:04:24,674 --> 00:04:25,040 >> Maverick: I KNOW. 243 00:04:25,107 --> 00:04:25,674 >> Carmelo: I HATED GOING TO LA. 244 00:04:25,741 --> 00:04:26,207 I HATED IT. 245 00:04:26,274 --> 00:04:36,741 IF IT WASN'T THE HOODS, YOU 246 00:04:36,808 --> 00:04:38,808 KNOW, B-MORE, NEW YORK, CHICAGO, 247 00:04:38,874 --> 00:04:41,674 LIKE WHEREVER THE HOOD WAS AT -- 248 00:04:41,741 --> 00:04:42,140 I HATED GOING TO LA. 249 00:04:42,207 --> 00:04:42,574 >> Paul: WHY? 250 00:04:42,641 --> 00:04:43,140 >> Carmelo: THAT WASN'T ME. 251 00:04:43,207 --> 00:04:43,674 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WORLD. 252 00:04:43,741 --> 00:04:44,407 I DIDN'T KNOW THOSE PEOPLE. 253 00:04:44,474 --> 00:04:44,874 >> Maverick: PROBABLY 254 00:04:44,941 --> 00:04:45,240 INTIMIDATED TOO. 255 00:04:45,307 --> 00:04:45,841 >> Carmelo: YEAH. 256 00:04:45,908 --> 00:04:47,107 I ALWAYS LOOKED AT IT LIKE, 257 00:04:47,174 --> 00:04:47,708 "NAH, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, I'M 258 00:04:47,774 --> 00:04:48,074 OUT OF BOUNDS. 259 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:48,708 I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AROUND 260 00:04:48,774 --> 00:04:50,240 THESE PEOPLE." 261 00:04:50,307 --> 00:04:50,841 THERE WAS A MOMENT, '08, RIGHT 262 00:04:50,908 --> 00:04:51,441 BEFORE THE OLYMPICS, I HAD TO 263 00:04:51,507 --> 00:04:52,040 SIT DOWN WITH JERRY. 264 00:04:52,107 --> 00:04:53,974 >> Jason: SEINFELD. 265 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,941 >> Maverick: JERRY COLANGELO. 266 00:04:56,007 --> 00:04:56,407 >> Jason: I'M KIDDING. 267 00:04:56,474 --> 00:04:56,941 [LAUGHTER] 268 00:04:57,007 --> 00:04:57,474 DIFFERENT WORLD, DIFFERENT 269 00:04:57,541 --> 00:04:57,741 JERRYS. 270 00:04:57,808 --> 00:04:58,674 >> Carmelo: ABSOLUTELY. 271 00:04:58,741 --> 00:05:06,107 SO I HAD THIS -- I HAD THIS TALK 272 00:05:06,174 --> 00:05:06,741 WITH HIM AND I WAS LIKE THE LAST 273 00:05:06,808 --> 00:05:07,341 PERSON THAT HE TALKED TO FOR 274 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:09,841 THAT TEAM. 275 00:05:09,908 --> 00:05:11,174 SO LONG STORY SHORT, I WENT TO 276 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:11,641 MEET WITH WILL SMITH. 277 00:05:11,708 --> 00:05:12,341 SO I'M AT HIS CRIB AND WILL WAS 278 00:05:12,407 --> 00:05:12,941 THE ONE WHO REALLY CHANGED MY 279 00:05:13,007 --> 00:05:13,574 WHOLE PERSPECTIVE ON JUST BEING 280 00:05:13,641 --> 00:05:14,140 A STAR, BEING WHO YOU WITH, 281 00:05:14,207 --> 00:05:14,607 LOCKING IN, FOCUSING. 282 00:05:14,674 --> 00:05:17,107 AND I REMEMBER I ASKED HIM, I 283 00:05:17,174 --> 00:05:17,741 SAID, "WHAT YOU THINK, I SHOULD 284 00:05:17,808 --> 00:05:18,140 GO? 285 00:05:18,207 --> 00:05:19,207 I SHOULD DO THE OLYMPICS?" 286 00:05:19,274 --> 00:05:19,974 AND HE WAS LIKE, "YOU'LL BE A 287 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:20,674 FOOL IF YOU DON'T DO THE 288 00:05:20,741 --> 00:05:23,240 OLYMPICS. 289 00:05:23,307 --> 00:05:25,874 FORGET EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED 290 00:05:25,941 --> 00:05:27,274 PRIOR TO THAT OFF THE COURT. 291 00:05:27,341 --> 00:05:28,274 THIS '08 FOR YOU IS YOUR TIME TO 292 00:05:28,341 --> 00:05:28,874 MAKE THE -- TO TAKE THE NEXT 293 00:05:28,941 --> 00:05:30,074 JUMP." 294 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:30,741 AND THAT'S WHAT CHANGED MY WHOLE 295 00:05:30,808 --> 00:05:30,974 SHIP. 296 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:31,841 >> Jason: I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT 297 00:05:31,908 --> 00:05:32,908 FAME WAS A BYPRODUCT OF WORK 298 00:05:32,974 --> 00:05:34,207 DONE WELL, WHICH I THINK IS 299 00:05:34,274 --> 00:05:34,974 ECHOING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU 300 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,274 SAID. 301 00:05:36,341 --> 00:05:37,207 LIKE, YOU CARED ABOUT THE CRAFT 302 00:05:37,274 --> 00:05:38,307 AND KNEW IF YOU DID IT WELL, 303 00:05:38,374 --> 00:05:39,074 THIS IS A BYPRODUCT THAT YOU'RE, 304 00:05:39,140 --> 00:05:41,107 YOU KNOW. 305 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:42,374 BUT I GREW UP HAVING A VERY 306 00:05:42,441 --> 00:05:45,274 CLOSE CONNECTION TO FAME. 307 00:05:45,341 --> 00:05:46,407 MY UNCLE GEORGE IS GEORGE WENDT, 308 00:05:46,474 --> 00:05:47,207 WHO PLAYED NORM ON "CHEERS." 309 00:05:47,274 --> 00:05:52,174 >> Maverick: OH. 310 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,974 I NEVER KNEW THAT. 311 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,641 >> Jason: YEAH, YEAH, A LOT OF 312 00:05:53,708 --> 00:05:53,941 FOLKS DON'T. 313 00:05:54,007 --> 00:05:54,441 LIKE, I DO, WHICH IS THE 314 00:05:54,507 --> 00:05:54,941 IMPORTANT PART, RIGHT? 315 00:05:55,007 --> 00:05:55,708 >> Carmelo: HE SAID, "I DO." 316 00:05:55,774 --> 00:05:55,941 [LAUGHS] 317 00:05:56,007 --> 00:05:56,908 >> Jason: BUT IT'S LIKE THAT WAS 318 00:05:56,974 --> 00:05:57,507 AN INTERESTING THING TO SEE. 319 00:05:57,574 --> 00:05:58,774 LIKE, I GOT TO SEE HIM MAINTAIN 320 00:05:58,841 --> 00:05:59,307 HIS INTEGRITY AND HUMANITY 321 00:05:59,374 --> 00:05:59,874 WITHIN THIS FAMILY. 322 00:05:59,941 --> 00:06:01,708 BUT I DID ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN 323 00:06:01,774 --> 00:06:02,774 UNCLE GEORGE SHOWED UP, IT WAS A 324 00:06:02,841 --> 00:06:04,207 BIG DEAL. 325 00:06:04,274 --> 00:06:05,641 [LAUGHTER] 326 00:06:05,708 --> 00:06:06,207 >> Maverick: HE GOT TO EAT 327 00:06:06,274 --> 00:06:06,941 FIRST. 328 00:06:07,007 --> 00:06:08,641 >> Jason: FOR ME, THE FIRST TIME 329 00:06:08,708 --> 00:06:10,541 THAT I FELT IT, IT WAS LIKE WHEN 330 00:06:10,607 --> 00:06:11,207 GEORGE TOLD MY MOM, OH, HE COULD 331 00:06:11,274 --> 00:06:12,441 DO THIS. 332 00:06:12,507 --> 00:06:13,941 LIKE AFTER I DROPPED OUT OF 333 00:06:14,007 --> 00:06:15,674 COLLEGE, COMMUNITY COLLEGE, 334 00:06:15,741 --> 00:06:16,574 PLAYING BASKETBALL AND THEN I 335 00:06:16,641 --> 00:06:17,374 STARTED WRITING, LIKE, A 336 00:06:17,441 --> 00:06:18,107 NEWSLETTER. 337 00:06:18,174 --> 00:06:19,441 AND THEN HE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, 338 00:06:19,507 --> 00:06:20,174 AND HE SHARED IT WITH ROBERT 339 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,974 SMIGEL WHO, YOU KNOW, WROTE. 340 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,040 THE SUPERFANS, THE 341 00:06:27,107 --> 00:06:27,674 ALL-TIME GREAT COMEDY WRITERS, 342 00:06:27,741 --> 00:06:30,474 INTOXICATING FAME AS ANYTHING 343 00:06:30,541 --> 00:06:32,841 BECAUSE IT'S LIKE... 344 00:06:32,908 --> 00:06:33,441 ROBERT SMIGEL KNOWS WHO I AM. 345 00:06:33,507 --> 00:06:34,007 LIKE, YOU KNOW. 346 00:06:34,074 --> 00:06:37,374 AND THAT WAS A THING. 347 00:06:37,441 --> 00:06:38,407 >> Maverick: WHAT ABOUT FOR YOU? 348 00:06:38,474 --> 00:06:39,007 >> Keegan-Michael: ALL I 349 00:06:39,074 --> 00:06:39,574 REMEMBER IS WHEN I WAS 13, I 350 00:06:39,641 --> 00:06:40,207 JUST -- I WANTED TO BE ROBERT DE 351 00:06:40,274 --> 00:06:41,007 NIRO. 352 00:06:41,074 --> 00:06:41,607 >> Maverick: REALLY? 353 00:06:41,674 --> 00:06:42,207 >> Keegan-Michael: NOT BECAUSE 354 00:06:42,274 --> 00:06:48,174 HE WAS FAMOUS. 355 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,474 ROBERT DE NIRO OR ANIMAL, THE 356 00:06:51,541 --> 00:06:52,941 DRUMMER FROM THE ELECTRIC MAYHEM 357 00:06:53,007 --> 00:06:53,574 ON "THE MUPPET SHOW." 358 00:06:53,641 --> 00:06:54,107 >> Maverick: REALLY? 359 00:06:54,174 --> 00:06:57,507 >> Liz: WOW. 360 00:06:57,574 --> 00:06:59,007 >> Keegan-Michael: THAT'S... 361 00:06:59,074 --> 00:07:00,374 >> Maverick: THAT'S VERY BIG. 362 00:07:00,441 --> 00:07:01,774 >> Paul: RANGE BY THE WAY. 363 00:07:01,841 --> 00:07:02,174 WHY, WHY, WHY? 364 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:02,808 >> Keegan-Michael: LIKE, THERE'S 365 00:07:02,874 --> 00:07:03,207 A LARGE SPECTRUM. 366 00:07:03,274 --> 00:07:03,841 >> Paul: WHY? 367 00:07:03,908 --> 00:07:04,441 >> Jason: THAT'S WHY WE GO TO 368 00:07:04,507 --> 00:07:05,007 SKETCH COMEDY, SO WE CAN DO 369 00:07:05,074 --> 00:07:05,374 BOTH. 370 00:07:05,441 --> 00:07:06,007 >> Keegan-Michael: SO WE CAN DO 371 00:07:06,074 --> 00:07:10,607 BOTH. 372 00:07:10,674 --> 00:07:13,708 BUT THE MOMENT FOR ME WAS I HAD 373 00:07:13,774 --> 00:07:16,207 BEEN ON "MAD TV" FOR SIX YEARS 374 00:07:16,274 --> 00:07:18,874 AND THIS CAR WENT BY AND THERE 375 00:07:18,941 --> 00:07:20,808 ARE ABOUT FOUR KIDS IN THE CAR 376 00:07:20,874 --> 00:07:23,574 AND SOME KID LEANED OUT THE 377 00:07:23,641 --> 00:07:25,674 WINDOW AS THEY PASSED ME AND 378 00:07:25,741 --> 00:07:28,774 JUST SCREAMED, "COACH HINES, 379 00:07:28,841 --> 00:07:33,641 COACH HINES!" 380 00:07:33,708 --> 00:07:37,007 AND I WAS LIKE, OH. 381 00:07:37,074 --> 00:07:37,674 THE MOMENT I KIND OF THOUGHT, I 382 00:07:37,741 --> 00:07:38,374 SAID, "THIS IS WHAT IT IS." 383 00:07:38,441 --> 00:07:38,908 >> Jason: YOU WERE ALWAYS 384 00:07:38,974 --> 00:07:39,374 WEARING THOSE SHORTS. 385 00:07:39,441 --> 00:07:39,941 >> Keegan-Michael: I HAD THE 386 00:07:40,007 --> 00:07:40,341 SHORTS EVERYWHERE. 387 00:07:40,407 --> 00:07:43,641 [LAUGHTER] 388 00:07:43,708 --> 00:07:44,874 I MEAN, I REALLY -- I WAS 389 00:07:44,941 --> 00:07:45,708 WEARING THE UNIFORM. 390 00:07:45,774 --> 00:07:48,441 [LAUGHTER] 391 00:07:48,507 --> 00:07:50,274 EVERYTHING AND MUSTACHE. 392 00:07:50,341 --> 00:07:50,908 I GUESS IT WASN'T TOO FAR OF A 393 00:07:50,974 --> 00:07:52,574 STRETCH. 394 00:07:52,641 --> 00:07:53,207 >> Maverick: YOU BLEW UP DURING 395 00:07:53,274 --> 00:07:53,841 COVID, WHICH IS A WEIRD TIME TO 396 00:07:53,908 --> 00:07:54,107 GET BIG. 397 00:07:54,174 --> 00:07:54,708 YOU ACTUALLY GOT BIG DURING A 398 00:07:54,774 --> 00:07:55,374 TIME WHEN EVERYBODY WAS IN THE 399 00:07:55,441 --> 00:07:56,040 HOUSE. 400 00:07:56,107 --> 00:07:56,674 >> Jack: I SPENT SO MANY MONTHS 401 00:07:56,741 --> 00:07:57,307 INSIDE NOT DOING SHOWS THAT WHEN 402 00:07:57,374 --> 00:07:58,474 I WOULD GO TO THE STUDIO, SHOWS 403 00:07:58,541 --> 00:08:00,974 WEREN'T ON MY MIND. 404 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,974 SO A LOT OF THE MUSIC I PUT OUT 405 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,607 IN THE LAST YEAR IS CALCULATED, 406 00:08:02,674 --> 00:08:03,174 INTROSPECTIVE STORYTELLING, 407 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:03,741 WHICH I LOVE AND IT'S TO MY 408 00:08:03,808 --> 00:08:04,074 BENEFIT. 409 00:08:04,140 --> 00:08:04,574 WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN 410 00:08:04,641 --> 00:08:05,374 KENTUCKY, EVERY VERSE I EVER DID 411 00:08:05,441 --> 00:08:06,207 I WROTE. 412 00:08:06,274 --> 00:08:06,841 AND THEN I MOVED TO ATLANTA AND 413 00:08:06,908 --> 00:08:07,474 I STARTED GOING TO STUDIOS WITH 414 00:08:07,541 --> 00:08:08,074 OTHER ARTISTS AND IT WAS NOT A 415 00:08:08,140 --> 00:08:08,741 PAD IN SIGHT. 416 00:08:08,808 --> 00:08:09,841 SO I SAID, "ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING 417 00:08:09,908 --> 00:08:10,607 TO HAVE TO LEAN TO PUNCH." 418 00:08:10,674 --> 00:08:11,207 >> Keegan-Michael: OH, OFF THE 419 00:08:11,274 --> 00:08:12,607 DOME. 420 00:08:12,674 --> 00:08:13,274 >> Jack: THAT'S WHAT THEY CALLED 421 00:08:13,341 --> 00:08:13,641 IT, PUNCH RAP. 422 00:08:13,708 --> 00:08:14,441 AND SO I STARTED GOING IN THE 423 00:08:14,507 --> 00:08:15,474 BOOTH AROUND AGE 19 AND I 424 00:08:15,541 --> 00:08:19,407 STARTED FREESTYLING, LIKE JUST 425 00:08:19,474 --> 00:08:19,874 REACTING TO YOURSELF. 426 00:08:19,941 --> 00:08:20,474 YOU KNOW, THE THINGS YOU THINK 427 00:08:20,541 --> 00:08:21,107 OF, YOU'RE REACTING TO THE BEAT. 428 00:08:21,174 --> 00:08:21,741 >> Carmelo: YOU'RE IMPROVING, 429 00:08:21,808 --> 00:08:22,074 YOU IMPROVING. 430 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:22,674 >> Jack: BUT WHEN YOU GET IN 431 00:08:22,741 --> 00:08:23,007 THAT ZONE. 432 00:08:23,074 --> 00:08:23,441 >> Carmelo: RIGHT. 433 00:08:23,507 --> 00:08:24,207 >> Jack: IT FEELS LIKE DANCING. 434 00:08:24,274 --> 00:08:24,774 >> Keegan-Michael: IT DOES. 435 00:08:24,841 --> 00:08:26,874 >> Jack: IT'S JUST DANCING. 436 00:08:26,941 --> 00:08:30,007 >> Liz: IT'S THE ZONE. 437 00:08:30,074 --> 00:08:30,441 >> Jack: EXACTLY. 438 00:08:30,507 --> 00:08:31,641 BUT IT'S, IT'S ALL A MATTER OF 439 00:08:31,708 --> 00:08:32,207 GETTING LOST IN IT BECAUSE I 440 00:08:32,274 --> 00:08:33,074 REALIZED THE FLOWS I WAS COMING 441 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:34,841 UP WITH IN THE BOOTH WHEN I WAS 442 00:08:34,908 --> 00:08:35,374 FREESTYLING WERE ACTUALLY 443 00:08:35,441 --> 00:08:35,908 SURPASSING THE STUFF I WAS 444 00:08:35,974 --> 00:08:36,441 COMING UP WITH CALCULATED 445 00:08:36,507 --> 00:08:37,507 BECAUSE -- 446 00:08:37,574 --> 00:08:43,174 >> Jason: YOU WEREN'T EDITING? 447 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:43,607 YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE 448 00:08:43,674 --> 00:08:44,240 ERASER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. 449 00:08:44,307 --> 00:08:44,574 >> Jack: YEAH. 450 00:08:44,641 --> 00:08:45,074 SO IT AFFECTED HOW I WAS 451 00:08:45,140 --> 00:08:45,507 APPROACHING WRITING. 452 00:08:45,574 --> 00:08:46,140 I REALIZED MY BEST WRITING WAS 453 00:08:46,207 --> 00:08:46,708 THE STUFF I WAS WRITING THE 454 00:08:46,774 --> 00:08:48,974 FASTEST. 455 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:49,474 ATLANTA CHANGED MY LIFE 456 00:08:49,541 --> 00:08:51,374 FOR THAT REASON. 457 00:08:51,441 --> 00:08:51,974 BECAUSE ALMOST ALL THE ARTISTS 458 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,541 IN ATLANTA, EVERY RAPPER, I 459 00:08:52,607 --> 00:08:53,107 DON'T HARDLY -- 460 00:08:53,174 --> 00:08:53,674 >> Keegan-Michael: THEY ALL 461 00:08:53,741 --> 00:08:54,674 PUNCH. 462 00:08:54,741 --> 00:08:55,274 >> Jack: I CAN'T MEET A RAPPER 463 00:08:55,341 --> 00:08:55,741 THAT WRITES RIGHT NOW. 464 00:08:55,808 --> 00:08:56,307 >> Keegan-Michael: THEY ALL 465 00:08:56,374 --> 00:08:56,641 PUNCH. 466 00:08:56,708 --> 00:08:57,240 >> Jack: I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO 467 00:08:57,307 --> 00:08:57,874 HAVE THAT CALCULATED SIDE I GREW 468 00:08:57,941 --> 00:08:58,474 UP WITH, BUT EVERYONE PUNCHES 469 00:08:58,541 --> 00:08:59,007 DOWN THERE AND IT TOTALLY 470 00:08:59,074 --> 00:08:59,474 CHANGED HOW I RECORD. 471 00:08:59,541 --> 00:09:00,074 >> Maverick: HOW DO YOU CHOOSE 472 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:00,474 WHICH ONE TO USE? 473 00:09:00,541 --> 00:09:01,074 >> Jack: IT'S A FEELING. 474 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:01,574 >> Maverick: IS IT? 475 00:09:01,641 --> 00:09:05,474 >> Jack: IT'S A FEELING. 476 00:09:05,541 --> 00:09:06,107 MY INTENTION. 477 00:09:06,174 --> 00:09:06,607 MY INTENTION, YOU KNOW. 478 00:09:06,674 --> 00:09:07,207 IF I WANT TO GET INTROSPECTIVE 479 00:09:07,274 --> 00:09:07,808 ON A RECORD I'M GOING TO SIT 480 00:09:07,874 --> 00:09:08,407 DOWN AND USE THE ADVANTAGE OF 481 00:09:08,474 --> 00:09:08,808 BEING CALCULATED. 482 00:09:08,874 --> 00:09:09,441 STORYTELLING IS BETTER FOR THAT. 483 00:09:09,507 --> 00:09:10,040 BUT IF IT'S A PARTY RECORD, OR 484 00:09:10,107 --> 00:09:10,741 SOMETHING I WANT TO PERFORM, OR 485 00:09:10,808 --> 00:09:12,941 PLAY IN THE CLUB, IT'S GOT TO BE 486 00:09:13,007 --> 00:09:13,541 BIGGER THAN JUST ME GETTING MY 487 00:09:13,607 --> 00:09:13,908 THOUGHTS OUT. 488 00:09:13,974 --> 00:09:14,774 I GOT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT THIS 489 00:09:14,841 --> 00:09:15,407 10,000 PEOPLE WANT TO YELL WITH 490 00:09:15,474 --> 00:09:15,607 ME. 491 00:09:15,674 --> 00:09:16,774 >> Maverick: THAT'S INTERESTING. 492 00:09:16,841 --> 00:09:17,341 AND YOU, YOU FEEL THE SAME. 493 00:09:17,407 --> 00:09:17,941 LIKE, THAT'S A WEIRD TIME, 494 00:09:18,007 --> 00:09:18,174 THOUGH. 495 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,974 >> Jack: YEAH. 496 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,240 >> Liz: LIKE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN 497 00:09:21,307 --> 00:09:23,541 KNOWN GROWING UP IN AUSTRALIA, 498 00:09:23,607 --> 00:09:24,674 LIKE I WAS ALWAYS THE NEXT 499 00:09:24,741 --> 00:09:25,407 LAUREN JACKSON, THE NEXT BIG 500 00:09:25,474 --> 00:09:26,941 THING IN AUSTRALIAN BASKETBALL. 501 00:09:27,007 --> 00:09:28,407 SO I'VE ALWAYS HAD A FOLLOWING 502 00:09:28,474 --> 00:09:29,774 AND PEOPLE KNOWING ME. 503 00:09:29,841 --> 00:09:31,741 BUT I WENT VIRAL A COUPLE OF 504 00:09:31,808 --> 00:09:33,908 TIMES JUST HOOPING WITH MY GUYS, 505 00:09:33,974 --> 00:09:35,507 LIKE JUST ANOTHER DAY OF 506 00:09:35,574 --> 00:09:36,207 TRAINING, PLAYING ONES WITH THE 507 00:09:36,274 --> 00:09:37,741 GUYS. 508 00:09:37,808 --> 00:09:40,240 LIKE, THREE WEEKS BEFORE I HAD, 509 00:09:40,307 --> 00:09:41,341 MY "PLAYBOY" SHOOT HAD COME OUT 510 00:09:41,407 --> 00:09:42,374 AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WAS 511 00:09:42,441 --> 00:09:43,908 GOING TO GO VIRAL. 512 00:09:43,974 --> 00:09:44,507 ME HOOPING WITH THE BOYS GOES 513 00:09:44,574 --> 00:09:45,341 VIRAL. 514 00:09:45,407 --> 00:09:47,207 I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 515 00:09:47,274 --> 00:09:48,140 WORLD WANTS. 516 00:09:48,207 --> 00:09:48,741 >> Carmelo: BUT YOU KNOW WHY? 517 00:09:48,808 --> 00:09:49,240 YOU KNOW WHY? 518 00:09:49,307 --> 00:09:50,207 BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE THAT. 519 00:09:50,274 --> 00:09:51,741 >> Liz: YEAH. 520 00:09:51,808 --> 00:09:52,341 >> Carmelo: ESPECIALLY WHEN IT 521 00:09:52,407 --> 00:09:52,774 COMES TO BASKETBALL. 522 00:09:52,841 --> 00:09:53,741 >> Liz: YEAH. 523 00:09:53,808 --> 00:09:58,507 >> Carmelo: SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT 524 00:09:58,574 --> 00:10:04,274 INTEGRATED, WOMEN PLAYING WITH, 525 00:10:04,341 --> 00:10:04,941 WITH MEN IT'S LIKE, OH, SHIT. 526 00:10:05,007 --> 00:10:05,374 LIKE, OKAY. 527 00:10:05,441 --> 00:10:06,040 WE, WE GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO 528 00:10:06,107 --> 00:10:06,207 HER. 529 00:10:06,274 --> 00:10:06,841 >> Keegan-Michael: WE WITNESSING 530 00:10:06,908 --> 00:10:07,107 SOMETHING. 531 00:10:07,174 --> 00:10:07,808 >> Liz: YEAH. 532 00:10:07,874 --> 00:10:08,641 >> Keegan-Michael: YEAH. 533 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:09,240 >> Carmelo: WE WITNESSING 534 00:10:09,307 --> 00:10:09,507 SOMETHING. 535 00:10:09,574 --> 00:10:10,007 SO, YOU REALLY STARTED 536 00:10:10,074 --> 00:10:11,507 SOMETHING. 537 00:10:11,574 --> 00:10:12,140 >> Liz: I HAVE A FOLLOWING NOW, 538 00:10:12,207 --> 00:10:12,507 LIKE. 539 00:10:12,574 --> 00:10:13,007 >> Maverick: YOU HAVE A 540 00:10:13,074 --> 00:10:13,607 FOLLOWING BECAUSE YOU ARE YOU. 541 00:10:13,674 --> 00:10:14,074 >> Liz: YEAH. 542 00:10:14,140 --> 00:10:14,808 >> Keegan-Michael: YEAH, YEAH, 543 00:10:14,874 --> 00:10:16,674 YEAH. 544 00:10:16,741 --> 00:10:17,307 >> Maverick: THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE 545 00:10:17,374 --> 00:10:17,774 THE FOLLOWING. 546 00:10:17,841 --> 00:10:18,307 >> Carmelo: PERSONALITY. 547 00:10:18,374 --> 00:10:18,941 >> Maverick: LOOK, LOOK, LOOK AT 548 00:10:19,007 --> 00:10:19,240 HER SMILING. 549 00:10:19,307 --> 00:10:19,708 [LAUGHS] 550 00:10:19,774 --> 00:10:20,607 >> Liz: SHIT. 551 00:10:20,674 --> 00:10:21,207 >> Keegan-Michael: [LAUGHS] 552 00:10:21,274 --> 00:10:21,841 >> Liz: I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL 553 00:10:21,908 --> 00:10:22,007 SEE. 554 00:10:22,074 --> 00:10:22,607 >> Carmelo: WE SEE EVERYTHING 555 00:10:22,674 --> 00:10:22,974 YOU DO. 556 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:23,507 >> Liz: NO, YOU DON'T SEE 557 00:10:23,574 --> 00:10:23,808 EVERYTHING. 558 00:10:23,874 --> 00:10:24,708 >> Carmelo: WE SEE EVERYTHING. 559 00:10:24,774 --> 00:10:25,207 >> Liz: Y'ALL DON'T SEE 560 00:10:25,274 --> 00:10:25,874 EVERYTHING. 561 00:10:25,941 --> 00:10:26,474 >> Maverick: BUT AS COMEDIANS, 562 00:10:26,541 --> 00:10:27,174 YOU GUYS ACTUALLY GET TO PLAY 563 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,874 CHARACTERS. 564 00:10:28,941 --> 00:10:30,941 IS IT MOST COMFORTABLE WHEN YOU 565 00:10:31,007 --> 00:10:31,507 PLAY A CHARACTER THAT'S VERY 566 00:10:31,574 --> 00:10:32,140 CLOSE TO ACTUALLY WHO YOU ARE, 567 00:10:32,207 --> 00:10:32,841 OR DO YOU FEEL BETTER WHEN IT'S 568 00:10:32,908 --> 00:10:33,474 SOMEONE WHO'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 569 00:10:33,541 --> 00:10:33,974 WHO YOU ARE AS A PERSON? 570 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,974 >> Jason: I WOULD -- I ONLY -- 571 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:35,607 I'M NOT LIKE DANIEL DAY LEWIS OR 572 00:10:35,674 --> 00:10:37,107 SOMEONE. 573 00:10:37,174 --> 00:10:37,674 I HAVE TO PLAY A VERSION OF 574 00:10:37,741 --> 00:10:40,207 MYSELF. 575 00:10:40,274 --> 00:10:49,107 I HAVE AND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, 576 00:10:49,174 --> 00:10:52,007 YOU KNOW, YOU GET BUSTED AND 577 00:10:52,074 --> 00:10:52,741 PLAY THE SAME CHARACTER EVERY 578 00:10:52,808 --> 00:10:53,574 TIME AND I'M KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, 579 00:10:53,641 --> 00:10:54,007 BECAUSE IT'S ALL ME. 580 00:10:54,074 --> 00:10:54,641 LIKE, THERE WAS NEVER A PART OF 581 00:10:54,708 --> 00:10:55,274 ME THAT WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM 582 00:10:55,341 --> 00:10:55,474 THAT. 583 00:10:55,541 --> 00:10:56,074 EDDIE MURPHY'S A DUDE THAT WAS 584 00:10:56,140 --> 00:10:56,541 SO GOOD AS WHO HE IS. 585 00:10:56,607 --> 00:10:57,174 THAT HE DECIDED, "I'M GOING TO 586 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:57,708 PLAY THE WHOLE SECOND HALF 587 00:10:57,774 --> 00:10:58,040 LEFT-HANDED." 588 00:10:58,107 --> 00:10:59,207 HE WAS LIKE, "I'M LITERALLY 589 00:10:59,274 --> 00:11:00,674 GOING TO PUT ON ALL THIS MAKEUP 590 00:11:00,741 --> 00:11:01,274 AND IMPROVISE WITH MYSELF TWO 591 00:11:01,341 --> 00:11:04,974 WEEKS AT A TIME." 592 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:05,607 >> Carmelo: IS THAT HIM GETTING 593 00:11:05,674 --> 00:11:08,574 BORED THOUGH? 594 00:11:08,641 --> 00:11:09,708 >> Jason: I DON'T KNOW. 595 00:11:09,774 --> 00:11:10,307 >> Carmelo: ME, PERSONALLY, I 596 00:11:10,374 --> 00:11:10,941 CAN GET BORED WITH GOING IN THE 597 00:11:11,007 --> 00:11:11,607 GYM DOING THE SAME SHIT OVER AND 598 00:11:11,674 --> 00:11:11,808 OVER. 599 00:11:11,874 --> 00:11:12,407 >> Keegan-Michael: ABSOLUTELY. 600 00:11:12,474 --> 00:11:13,174 ABSOLUTELY. 601 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,307 >> Carmelo: I GET BORED. 602 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:15,574 >> Maverick: DO YOU GET BORED IN 603 00:11:15,641 --> 00:11:16,140 A GAME, LIKE, "I WANT TO TRY 604 00:11:16,207 --> 00:11:17,107 SOMETHING NEW?" 605 00:11:17,174 --> 00:11:17,774 >> Carmelo: NO, BECAUSE IT'S TO 606 00:11:17,841 --> 00:11:18,541 THEY POINT. 607 00:11:18,607 --> 00:11:19,574 LIKE, YOU GOT TO STICK WITH YOUR 608 00:11:19,641 --> 00:11:20,174 TRUE ESSENCE OF WHO YOU ARE. 609 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,174 >> Maverick: YES. 610 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:21,841 >> Paul: BUT 'MELO, WHAT KEEPS 611 00:11:21,908 --> 00:11:22,140 YOU GOING? 612 00:11:22,207 --> 00:11:22,774 WHAT KEEPS YOU GOING BACK TO THE 613 00:11:22,841 --> 00:11:22,941 GYM? 614 00:11:23,007 --> 00:11:24,207 >> Carmelo: SELF-MOTIVATION. 615 00:11:24,274 --> 00:11:25,908 BUT ALSO BEING AROUND MY SON, 616 00:11:25,974 --> 00:11:27,240 AND BEING AROUND HIS TEAMMATES, 617 00:11:27,307 --> 00:11:29,474 AND GOING TO THE TOURNAMENTS, 618 00:11:29,541 --> 00:11:30,841 AND THEM GIVING ME THAT LOVE. 619 00:11:30,908 --> 00:11:31,441 THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF 620 00:11:31,507 --> 00:11:32,341 LOVE. 621 00:11:32,407 --> 00:11:33,841 LIKE, FORGET THE MEDIA. 622 00:11:33,908 --> 00:11:35,974 WHEN YOU GET THE LOVE FROM KIDS 623 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,174 LIKE THAT IT'S LIKE, OH, I GOT 624 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,107 TO BE, I GOT TO DO WHAT I GOT TO 625 00:11:38,174 --> 00:11:39,441 DO. 626 00:11:39,507 --> 00:11:41,641 THEY TELLING ME THAT YOU AIN'T 627 00:11:41,708 --> 00:11:43,274 DONE, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DOING, 628 00:11:43,341 --> 00:11:44,240 LIKE WHAT TEAM, YOU KNOW? 629 00:11:44,307 --> 00:11:44,774 THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL, IT'S A 630 00:11:44,841 --> 00:11:45,741 BEAUTIFUL FEELING. 631 00:11:45,808 --> 00:11:47,207 IT'S EMBARRASSING. 632 00:11:47,274 --> 00:11:47,908 [LAUGHTER] 633 00:11:47,974 --> 00:11:49,407 YOU UNDERSTAND. 634 00:11:49,474 --> 00:11:50,607 LISTEN. 635 00:11:50,674 --> 00:11:51,207 THE YEAR THAT I WAS AWAY FROM 636 00:11:51,274 --> 00:11:51,507 THE GAME... 637 00:11:51,574 --> 00:11:52,107 >> Maverick: YEAH. 638 00:11:52,174 --> 00:11:53,107 >> Carmelo: THE HARDEST THING 639 00:11:53,174 --> 00:11:54,074 WAS TO GO FROM HERE TO HERE, 640 00:11:54,140 --> 00:11:55,074 RIGHT. 641 00:11:55,140 --> 00:11:56,107 AND NOT KNOWING WHY. 642 00:11:56,174 --> 00:11:57,574 I DIDN'T WATCH BASKETBALL. 643 00:11:57,641 --> 00:11:58,374 >> Maverick: YEAH. 644 00:11:58,441 --> 00:11:59,240 >> Carmelo: LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? 645 00:11:59,307 --> 00:12:01,007 FUCK THE GAME OF BASKETBALL. 646 00:12:01,074 --> 00:12:01,607 THE GAME DON'T LOVE ME THE WAY 647 00:12:01,674 --> 00:12:02,874 THAT I LOVE THE GAME NO MORE. 648 00:12:02,941 --> 00:12:04,574 SO I WALK IN THE HOUSE AND I'M 649 00:12:04,641 --> 00:12:07,040 TELLING MY SON, WATCHING THE 650 00:12:07,107 --> 00:12:08,407 GAME, AND HE WATCH PLAYERS. 651 00:12:08,474 --> 00:12:11,774 HE DON'T WATCH TEAMS. 652 00:12:11,841 --> 00:12:12,841 SO, WE WATCHING THE GAMES. 653 00:12:12,908 --> 00:12:13,941 HE JUST LIKE, "DAD, YO, HIM. 654 00:12:14,007 --> 00:12:15,708 HE PLAYING." 655 00:12:15,774 --> 00:12:16,808 >> Maverick: YEAH. 656 00:12:16,874 --> 00:12:17,574 >> Carmelo: "DAD, NO, HE TRASH." 657 00:12:17,641 --> 00:12:18,507 >> Maverick: YEAH. 658 00:12:18,574 --> 00:12:19,574 >> Carmelo: LIKE, "HOW IS HE IN 659 00:12:19,641 --> 00:12:20,207 THE LEAGUE AND YOU AIN'T IN THE 660 00:12:20,274 --> 00:12:20,441 LEAGUE? 661 00:12:20,507 --> 00:12:20,941 LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON?" 662 00:12:21,007 --> 00:12:21,541 >> Maverick: WHAT DID YOU SAY 663 00:12:21,607 --> 00:12:22,174 BACK? 664 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,741 >> Carmelo: "EVERYBODY GOT A 665 00:12:22,808 --> 00:12:24,007 DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, MAN." 666 00:12:24,074 --> 00:12:25,674 [LAUGHTER] 667 00:12:25,741 --> 00:12:26,274 >> Carmelo: YOU KNOW WHAT I'M 668 00:12:26,341 --> 00:12:26,774 SAYING? 669 00:12:26,841 --> 00:12:28,240 EVERYBODY CIRCUMSTANCES. 670 00:12:28,307 --> 00:12:28,974 THIS IS THE ONLY THING I COULD 671 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,574 COME BACK WITH. 672 00:12:29,641 --> 00:12:31,341 >> Paul: I WANT TO ASK LIZ REAL 673 00:12:31,407 --> 00:12:31,541 QUICK. 674 00:12:31,607 --> 00:12:32,074 YOU KNOW, WITH FAME COMES 675 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:33,507 EXPECTATIONS, RIGHT? 676 00:12:33,574 --> 00:12:35,174 IT'S LIKE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL 677 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,641 YOU ARE, THE MORE EXPECTATIONS 678 00:12:38,708 --> 00:12:41,507 AND YOU HEADING INTO THE 679 00:12:41,574 --> 00:12:44,274 OLYMPICS, YOU MADE A DECISION 680 00:12:44,341 --> 00:12:44,974 FOR YOURSELF. 681 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,808 >> Liz: YEAH. 682 00:12:45,874 --> 00:12:47,341 IT WASN'T EASY BUT HOW AM I 683 00:12:47,407 --> 00:12:48,841 MEANT TO, TO GO TO THE, THE 684 00:12:48,908 --> 00:12:49,774 HARDEST, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE 685 00:12:49,841 --> 00:12:50,040 PEAK. 686 00:12:50,107 --> 00:12:50,941 IT'S EVEREST. 687 00:12:51,007 --> 00:12:51,507 THE OLYMPICS IS EVEREST FOR 688 00:12:51,574 --> 00:12:52,207 EVERY ATHLETE. 689 00:12:52,274 --> 00:12:53,007 LIKE, IT'S ABOUT TO BE MY THIRD. 690 00:12:53,074 --> 00:12:54,074 IT WAS MEANT TO BE THE ONE. 691 00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:55,474 LIKE, EVERY, EVERY OLYMPICS IS 692 00:12:55,541 --> 00:12:56,808 THE ONE. 693 00:12:56,874 --> 00:12:58,007 AUSTRALIA IS GOING TO GET A GOLD 694 00:12:58,074 --> 00:13:00,708 MEDAL AND I'M LIKE, I'M BROKEN. 695 00:13:00,774 --> 00:13:02,107 GUYS, I'M HALFWAY THROUGH A WNBA 696 00:13:02,174 --> 00:13:03,741 SEASON. 697 00:13:03,808 --> 00:13:04,908 I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH HEALTH 698 00:13:04,974 --> 00:13:06,074 ISSUES. 699 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:08,140 I'VE BEEN HAVING PANIC ATTACKS 700 00:13:08,207 --> 00:13:09,040 AND VOMITING DURING WNBA GAMES. 701 00:13:09,107 --> 00:13:10,407 >> Maverick: WOW. 702 00:13:10,474 --> 00:13:13,074 >> Liz: MY STRESS HAS BEEN ON A 703 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:15,808 TOTALLY DIFFERENT LEVEL THIS 704 00:13:15,874 --> 00:13:19,474 YEAR AND I THINK COVID REALLY, 705 00:13:19,541 --> 00:13:20,074 REALLY, I'VE REALLY STRUGGLED 706 00:13:20,140 --> 00:13:21,741 WITH COVID LAST YEAR. 707 00:13:21,808 --> 00:13:25,574 I DID EVERYTHING TO KEEP ME 708 00:13:25,641 --> 00:13:26,207 FUNCTIONING IN A PANDEMIC AND I 709 00:13:26,274 --> 00:13:28,407 JUST HAD TO SAY FUCK IT, CALL MY 710 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:28,874 AGENT. 711 00:13:28,974 --> 00:13:30,107 I'M LIKE, "YOU NEED TO GET ME TO 712 00:13:30,174 --> 00:13:32,441 LA, LIKE I'M LOSING MY MIND, I'M 713 00:13:32,507 --> 00:13:33,140 SLIPPING BACK INTO MY TOXIC WAYS 714 00:13:33,207 --> 00:13:35,007 TO DEAL WITH ANXIETY." 715 00:13:35,074 --> 00:13:37,441 LIKE, SINCE I'VE 15 I'VE HAD 716 00:13:37,507 --> 00:13:38,974 SHIT IN MY LIFE AND I'VE 717 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,274 BLANKETED IT WITH DRINKING, WITH 718 00:13:40,341 --> 00:13:44,774 PARTYING, WITH EVERYTHING A PRO 719 00:13:44,841 --> 00:13:51,307 ATHLETE SHOULDN'T DO. 720 00:13:51,374 --> 00:13:52,240 AND IT'S TAKEN ME LIKE THE LAST 721 00:13:52,307 --> 00:13:52,874 TWO YEARS TO BREAK THAT CYCLE OF 722 00:13:52,941 --> 00:13:53,407 NUMBING MYSELF WITH STUFF. 723 00:13:53,474 --> 00:13:53,874 I WAS ON PAIN KILLERS. 724 00:13:53,941 --> 00:13:55,574 I'M ON VALIUM. 725 00:13:55,641 --> 00:13:56,341 I'M ON XANAX AGAIN AND IT'S 726 00:13:56,407 --> 00:13:57,441 LIKE, FOR WHAT? 727 00:13:57,507 --> 00:13:59,674 LIKE, I CAN'T BREAK MYSELF. 728 00:13:59,741 --> 00:14:06,974 END OF 2016, I ENDED UP ON 729 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:07,541 SUICIDE WATCH AFTER THE 730 00:14:07,607 --> 00:14:07,974 RIO OLYMPICS. 731 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,741 >> Maverick: WOW. 732 00:14:08,808 --> 00:14:09,374 >> Carmelo: I SAY ALL ATHLETES 733 00:14:09,441 --> 00:14:10,140 ARE DEPRESSED BECAUSE -- 734 00:14:10,207 --> 00:14:10,908 >> Liz: SO HARD. 735 00:14:10,974 --> 00:14:11,607 >> Carmelo: BECAUSE THERE'S SO 736 00:14:11,674 --> 00:14:12,341 MANY EXPECTATIONS, RIGHT, AND 737 00:14:12,407 --> 00:14:13,908 EVERY DAY IS A ROUTINE. 738 00:14:13,974 --> 00:14:14,541 YOU GOT TO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT. 739 00:14:14,607 --> 00:14:15,007 YOU GOT TO BE PERFECT. 740 00:14:15,074 --> 00:14:16,074 IN ORDER TO WIN, YOU GOT TO DO 741 00:14:16,140 --> 00:14:16,741 EVERYTHING RIGHT. 742 00:14:16,808 --> 00:14:18,207 YOU GO HOME AFTER WINS AND, 743 00:14:18,274 --> 00:14:18,774 AFTER LOSSES, YOU CAN'T EVEN 744 00:14:18,841 --> 00:14:19,841 COME DOWN OFF OF THAT. 745 00:14:19,908 --> 00:14:20,407 YOU GOT TO GET READY FOR THE 746 00:14:20,474 --> 00:14:23,908 NEXT NIGHT. 747 00:14:23,974 --> 00:14:24,708 TO GO PLAY. 748 00:14:24,774 --> 00:14:26,040 SO WHEN CAN YOU DECOMPRESS? 749 00:14:26,107 --> 00:14:26,708 IT TOOK ME TEN YEARS TO WATCH MY 750 00:14:26,774 --> 00:14:27,441 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. 751 00:14:27,507 --> 00:14:28,541 >> Liz: I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER 752 00:14:28,607 --> 00:14:29,341 CRACKED IN THE MOMENT. 753 00:14:29,407 --> 00:14:32,174 IT'S USUALLY AFTER. 754 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,708 IT'S USUALLY LIKE YOU'VE BEEN 755 00:14:33,774 --> 00:14:35,441 TRAINING YOUR ASS OFF FOR 756 00:14:35,507 --> 00:14:36,074 FUCKING YEARS AND IT'S GONE LIKE 757 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:38,140 THAT. 758 00:14:38,207 --> 00:14:39,708 AND THEN IT'S LIKE, WHAT THE 759 00:14:39,774 --> 00:14:40,507 FUCK'S MY PURPOSE IN LIFE? 760 00:14:40,574 --> 00:14:42,407 I'M TRASH. 761 00:14:42,474 --> 00:14:43,774 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 762 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:44,774 EXPECTATIONS BUT IT'S NOT 763 00:14:44,841 --> 00:14:46,174 PROCESSING THINGS RIGHT FOR ME. 764 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,341 I HAVE THE TOOLS NOW AND THE 765 00:14:48,407 --> 00:14:49,274 RIGHT PEOPLE AROUND ME AND IT'S 766 00:14:49,341 --> 00:14:49,908 JUST ME WORKING THROUGH MY SHIT 767 00:14:49,974 --> 00:14:51,974 NOW. 768 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:52,574 >> Maverick: AND HAVE YOU, YOU 769 00:14:52,641 --> 00:14:54,574 SAW A BIG IMPROVEMENT? 770 00:14:54,641 --> 00:14:55,708 >> Liz: UH. 771 00:14:55,774 --> 00:15:00,007 [LAUGHTER] 772 00:15:00,074 --> 00:15:00,774 I'M GOING TO BE COMPLETELY 773 00:15:00,841 --> 00:15:01,541 HONEST, IF I GO FOR ANOTHER 774 00:15:01,607 --> 00:15:02,174 OLYMPIC GAMES, THERE'S NO WAY I 775 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,641 CAN BE A PART OF THE WNBA. 776 00:15:03,708 --> 00:15:04,274 THERE'S NO WAY I CAN PLAY WITH A 777 00:15:04,341 --> 00:15:05,641 TEAM FOR HALF A SEASON. 778 00:15:05,708 --> 00:15:06,274 >> Paul: DO YOU FEEL YOU'D HAVE 779 00:15:06,341 --> 00:15:06,708 TO MAKE THAT CHOICE? 780 00:15:06,774 --> 00:15:07,874 >> Liz: YEAH. 781 00:15:07,941 --> 00:15:09,774 THEN SPEND A WEEK WITH MY 782 00:15:09,841 --> 00:15:12,274 AUSTRALIAN TEAM AND GO TO THE 783 00:15:12,341 --> 00:15:12,941 OLYMPICS AND I REALLY STRUGGLE 784 00:15:13,007 --> 00:15:14,808 WITH PLAYERS. 785 00:15:14,874 --> 00:15:15,441 I'VE HAD 11 CONCUSSIONS SINCE I 786 00:15:15,507 --> 00:15:16,908 WAS A TEENAGER. 787 00:15:16,974 --> 00:15:18,708 SO MY MEMORY IS SHOT. 788 00:15:18,774 --> 00:15:19,441 AND SO ME LEARNING PLAYS IS THE 789 00:15:19,507 --> 00:15:20,441 HARDEST THING. 790 00:15:20,507 --> 00:15:23,007 AND I GET -- I GOT ONE WEEK TO 791 00:15:23,074 --> 00:15:25,908 LEARN EVERY PLAY. 792 00:15:25,974 --> 00:15:26,708 >> Keegan-Michael: OH, WOW. 793 00:15:26,774 --> 00:15:27,841 >> Liz: AND WHEN THERE'S ONE 794 00:15:27,908 --> 00:15:28,474 PLAY, THERE'S LIKE SIX DIFFERENT 795 00:15:28,541 --> 00:15:29,541 VARIANCES YOU CAN DO WITH IT. 796 00:15:29,607 --> 00:15:31,040 >> Jason: SEE, THAT -- THAT'S A 797 00:15:31,107 --> 00:15:31,708 LEVEL THAT NO ONE THAT'S TALKING 798 00:15:31,774 --> 00:15:32,140 SHIT -- 799 00:15:32,207 --> 00:15:32,607 >> Liz: YEAH. 800 00:15:32,674 --> 00:15:33,207 >> Keegan-Michael: THEY DON'T 801 00:15:33,274 --> 00:15:34,374 UNDERSTAND THAT AT ALL. 802 00:15:34,441 --> 00:15:35,974 THEY HAVE NO SENSE OF THAT. 803 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,474 >> Jason: OH, MY GOD, NO. 804 00:15:39,541 --> 00:15:40,174 >> Liz: I WAS ON THREE TEAMS IN 805 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:40,708 ONE WEEK HEADING INTO THE 806 00:15:40,774 --> 00:15:41,307 OLYMPICS. 807 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:42,474 I HAD TO LEAVE MY VEGAS -- I HAD 808 00:15:42,541 --> 00:15:43,107 TO MISS TWO GAMES WITH MY VEGAS 809 00:15:43,174 --> 00:15:43,407 TEAM. 810 00:15:43,474 --> 00:15:45,708 THAT WAS A SITUATION. 811 00:15:45,774 --> 00:15:47,074 I HAD TO DO THE ALL-STAR GAME 812 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:47,774 AND THEN I COULDN'T DO THE 813 00:15:47,841 --> 00:15:48,341 ALL-STAR GAME, BECAUSE I HAD 814 00:15:48,407 --> 00:15:48,974 BEEN TRAINING TOO MUCH WITH THE 815 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,941 OLYMPICS. 816 00:15:50,007 --> 00:15:50,474 >> Jason: YOU'RE ALWAYS AN 817 00:15:50,541 --> 00:15:51,007 UNDERSTUDY. 818 00:15:51,074 --> 00:15:51,607 LIKE, YOU'RE NEVER PART OF THE 819 00:15:51,674 --> 00:15:52,708 CAST. 820 00:15:52,774 --> 00:16:01,941 >> Liz: YEAH. 821 00:16:02,007 --> 00:16:04,074 >> Jason: IT'S ABOUT LEARNING TO 822 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:04,741 IDLE WELL. 823 00:16:04,808 --> 00:16:05,274 >> Liz: YEAH. 824 00:16:05,341 --> 00:16:05,841 >> Jason: I REMEMBER MY HIGH 825 00:16:05,908 --> 00:16:06,441 SCHOOL COACH SAYING THAT, "YOU 826 00:16:06,507 --> 00:16:07,007 DON'T KNOW HOW TO IDLE WELL, 827 00:16:07,074 --> 00:16:10,808 JASON." 828 00:16:10,874 --> 00:16:11,841 YOU CAN DO THAT, YOU CAN DO THAT 829 00:16:11,908 --> 00:16:12,541 AT 18. 830 00:16:12,607 --> 00:16:13,174 AND IT'S HAVING THOSE PEAKS AND 831 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:13,808 HAVING THOSE VALLEYS, BECAUSE AT 832 00:16:13,874 --> 00:16:14,407 "SNL," WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN 833 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:15,040 EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING, BUT IT 834 00:16:15,107 --> 00:16:15,574 IS AN ATHLETIC, YOU KNOW, 835 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:15,908 ENDEAVOR. 836 00:16:16,007 --> 00:16:16,607 YOU GIVE 100%, IT GIVES YOU BACK 837 00:16:16,674 --> 00:16:18,240 4%. 838 00:16:18,307 --> 00:16:18,774 [LAUGHTER] 839 00:16:18,841 --> 00:16:20,607 YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT? 840 00:16:20,674 --> 00:16:21,174 >> Keegan-Michael: WHAT THE 841 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:21,574 FUCK? 842 00:16:21,641 --> 00:16:22,240 >> Jason: AND THEN SOME WEEKS, 843 00:16:22,307 --> 00:16:23,074 IT GIVES YOU BACK 150%, YOU'RE 844 00:16:23,140 --> 00:16:23,741 LIKE KING OF THE WORLD, AND THEN 845 00:16:23,808 --> 00:16:24,307 SUNDAY AFTERNOON HAPPENS AND 846 00:16:24,374 --> 00:16:24,808 YOU'RE LIKE, "I'M SAD." 847 00:16:24,874 --> 00:16:25,507 YOU FEEL THOSE HIGHS, A GAME 848 00:16:25,574 --> 00:16:26,240 WINNER, YOU KNOW, A VICTORY. 849 00:16:26,307 --> 00:16:27,374 AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE IT. 850 00:16:27,441 --> 00:16:28,641 THAT'S WHY PART -- TALKING ABOUT 851 00:16:28,708 --> 00:16:31,507 IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE 852 00:16:31,574 --> 00:16:32,040 ARE, LIKE, IT'S PROVIDING 853 00:16:32,107 --> 00:16:32,507 VOCABULARY FOR PEOPLE. 854 00:16:32,574 --> 00:16:33,841 >> Maverick: SO GOOD. 855 00:16:33,908 --> 00:16:35,341 >> Jason: YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 856 00:16:35,407 --> 00:16:35,974 WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, WAIT, THAT'S 857 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:36,841 A PANIC ATTACK? 858 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:37,474 I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST BECAUSE I 859 00:16:37,541 --> 00:16:37,941 HAD TOO MUCH CAFFEINE. 860 00:16:38,007 --> 00:16:38,541 IT'S LIKE, NO, THAT'S A PANIC 861 00:16:38,607 --> 00:16:38,941 ATTACK. 862 00:16:39,007 --> 00:16:43,207 [LAUGHS] 863 00:16:43,274 --> 00:16:48,207 ♪ ♪ 864 00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:48,841 >> Carmelo: YOU LISTEN TO OTHER 865 00:16:48,908 --> 00:16:49,574 RAPPERS' MUSIC? 866 00:16:49,641 --> 00:16:50,507 >> Jack: I TRY TO GET MYSELF TO. 867 00:16:50,574 --> 00:16:51,674 I FIND THAT LIKE A LOT OF TIMES 868 00:16:51,741 --> 00:16:52,240 RIGHT NOW... 869 00:16:52,307 --> 00:16:53,074 >> Carmelo: BUT YOU DON'T. 870 00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:53,674 >> Jack: LIKE, I DON'T HAVE A 871 00:16:53,741 --> 00:16:54,074 HABIT OF DOING IT. 872 00:16:54,140 --> 00:16:54,808 >> Carmelo: RIGHT. 873 00:16:54,874 --> 00:16:55,874 >> Jack: BUT ME, I THINK IT HAS 874 00:16:55,941 --> 00:16:56,474 LESS TO DO WITH OTHER RAPPERS 875 00:16:56,541 --> 00:16:58,908 THAN IT'S MORE, I'VE GOTTEN TO A 876 00:16:58,974 --> 00:16:59,474 POINT WHERE I'M RECORDING SO 877 00:16:59,541 --> 00:17:00,074 MUCH. 878 00:17:00,140 --> 00:17:00,674 >> Carmelo: YOU AIN'T GOT TIME 879 00:17:00,741 --> 00:17:02,074 FOR IT. 880 00:17:02,140 --> 00:17:06,874 >> Jack: IT'S NOT EVEN THE TIME. 881 00:17:06,941 --> 00:17:09,407 WHEN I LEAVE THE STUDIO, I LIKE 882 00:17:09,474 --> 00:17:09,841 TO DRIVE IN SILENCE. 883 00:17:09,908 --> 00:17:11,140 >> Carmelo: RIGHT. 884 00:17:11,207 --> 00:17:11,708 >> Keegan-Michael: UH, SURE. 885 00:17:11,774 --> 00:17:12,240 >> Jack: I'M IN THE CRIB 886 00:17:12,307 --> 00:17:12,841 CLEANING MY HOUSE IN SILENCE. 887 00:17:12,908 --> 00:17:13,407 OTHER PEOPLE AROUND ME LIKE, 888 00:17:13,474 --> 00:17:14,007 "YO, CAN WE LISTEN TO MUSIC?" 889 00:17:14,074 --> 00:17:14,474 I'M LIKE, "MUSIC? 890 00:17:14,541 --> 00:17:14,741 HELL NO." 891 00:17:14,808 --> 00:17:15,441 [LAUGHTER] 892 00:17:15,507 --> 00:17:16,507 >> Paul: WHO INFLUENCED YOU 893 00:17:16,574 --> 00:17:17,274 MUSICALLY, LIKE WHAT, IT'S RAP 894 00:17:17,341 --> 00:17:17,874 OR ANY GENRE, WHO? 895 00:17:17,941 --> 00:17:18,407 >> Jack: IN GENERAL? 896 00:17:18,474 --> 00:17:18,908 >> Paul: YEAH. 897 00:17:18,974 --> 00:17:19,474 IN GENERAL. 898 00:17:19,541 --> 00:17:20,040 >> Jack: MY DAD WAS CLASSIC 899 00:17:20,107 --> 00:17:24,708 COUNTRY. 900 00:17:24,774 --> 00:17:25,240 SO, LIKE JOHNNY CASH, 901 00:17:25,307 --> 00:17:25,908 JOHNNY PAYCHECK. 902 00:17:25,974 --> 00:17:27,007 >> Carmelo: JOHNNY PAYCHECK. 903 00:17:27,074 --> 00:17:27,574 >> Jack: SO, LIKE -- 904 00:17:27,641 --> 00:17:28,140 >> Carmelo: YO, BY THE WAY, 905 00:17:28,207 --> 00:17:28,774 THAT'S AN ILL NAME RIGHT THERE. 906 00:17:28,841 --> 00:17:29,407 [LAUGHTER] 907 00:17:29,474 --> 00:17:30,074 >> Jason: JOHNNY PAYCHECK. 908 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:40,274 >> Jack: CRAZY NAME. 909 00:17:40,341 --> 00:17:41,407 >> Carmelo: THAT IS MY NEW 910 00:17:41,474 --> 00:17:44,341 ALIAS, MAN. 911 00:17:44,407 --> 00:17:45,074 >> Jack: WILLIE, WILLIE NELSON. 912 00:17:45,140 --> 00:17:47,074 [LAUGHTER] 913 00:17:47,140 --> 00:17:47,708 SO I GOT MELODIC 914 00:17:47,774 --> 00:17:48,240 STORYTELLING FROM MY DAD. 915 00:17:48,307 --> 00:17:48,774 BUT MY MOM, SHE WAS -- I 916 00:17:48,841 --> 00:17:49,374 REMEMBER BEING IN THE CAR AND 917 00:17:49,441 --> 00:17:49,941 SHE BOUGHT 918 00:17:50,007 --> 00:17:50,974 "LATE REGISTRATION." 919 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:51,541 SHE'S LIKE, "YOU'RE GOING TO 920 00:17:51,607 --> 00:17:52,207 HEAR SOME WORDS ON THIS THAT YOU 921 00:17:52,274 --> 00:17:52,841 CAN'T SAY." 922 00:17:52,908 --> 00:17:53,441 >> Paul: YOUR MOM BOUGHT "LATE 923 00:17:53,507 --> 00:17:55,074 REGISTRATION?" 924 00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:55,708 >> Jack: MY MOM WAS RAP AND MY 925 00:17:55,774 --> 00:17:56,240 DAD WAS CLASSIC COUNTRY. 926 00:17:56,307 --> 00:17:56,841 >> Carmelo: THAT'S DOPE, WOW. 927 00:17:56,908 --> 00:17:57,240 WHAT A GREAT MIX. 928 00:17:57,307 --> 00:17:58,574 >> Jack: SO THAT WAS LIKE -- 929 00:17:58,641 --> 00:18:01,774 BUT MY MOM PUT ME ONTO RAP FOR 930 00:18:01,841 --> 00:18:02,741 LIKE, SHE WAS PLAYING "THE 931 00:18:02,808 --> 00:18:03,974 MARSHALL MATHERS LP" IN THE 932 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,341 MINIVAN WHEN I WAS TWO, LIKE. 933 00:18:05,407 --> 00:18:05,974 >> Jason: WITH ART, YOU GET TO 934 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,441 SHARE IT WITH ANOTHER 935 00:18:06,507 --> 00:18:07,174 GENERATION. 936 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:07,808 LIKE, YOU KNOW, I LOVE. 937 00:18:07,874 --> 00:18:08,407 >> Maverick: IT LIVES FOREVER. 938 00:18:08,474 --> 00:18:09,040 >> Jason: IT LIVES FOREVER AND 939 00:18:09,107 --> 00:18:09,574 YOU CHANGE AS YOU SAID IT. 940 00:18:09,641 --> 00:18:11,007 YOU KNOW, THE WAY YOU HEAR THE 941 00:18:11,074 --> 00:18:11,908 SONG YOU KNOW, YOU DANCE TO THAT 942 00:18:11,974 --> 00:18:12,507 SONG AT YOUR WEDDING, YOU CRY 943 00:18:12,574 --> 00:18:13,174 YOUR EYES OUT AT IT AT YOUR 944 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:13,674 DIVORCE, YOU KNOW, LIKE. 945 00:18:13,741 --> 00:18:15,674 [LAUGHTER] 946 00:18:15,741 --> 00:18:16,341 IT'S LIKE THAT SONG, THAT SONG'S 947 00:18:16,407 --> 00:18:16,841 STILL THE FUCKING SAME. 948 00:18:16,908 --> 00:18:17,541 >> Keegan-Michael: IT'S AWESOME. 949 00:18:17,607 --> 00:18:18,174 >> Jason: OH, YOU HATE THE HELL 950 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:18,574 OUT OF THAT SONG. 951 00:18:18,641 --> 00:18:25,374 [LAUGHTER] 952 00:18:25,441 --> 00:18:25,908 COME AND TALK TO ME. 953 00:18:25,974 --> 00:18:28,007 NO, NOT, NOT. 954 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:28,607 BUT LIKE, IT REALLY IS NEAT TO 955 00:18:28,674 --> 00:18:29,474 SHARE THAT WITH KIDS. 956 00:18:29,541 --> 00:18:30,107 >> Paul: 'MELO, IF YOUR SON -- 957 00:18:30,174 --> 00:18:31,407 WHAT MOVIE CAN YOU NOT WAIT TO 958 00:18:31,474 --> 00:18:32,641 SHOW YOUR SON? 959 00:18:32,708 --> 00:18:33,240 >> Carmelo: SO HE NEVER -- HE 960 00:18:33,307 --> 00:18:34,074 NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO 961 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:34,941 EXPERIENCE WHAT I EXPERIENCED 962 00:18:35,007 --> 00:18:35,874 AND HOW I HAD TO GO GET IT, HOW 963 00:18:35,941 --> 00:18:37,708 I HAD TO MOTIVATE MYSELF. 964 00:18:37,774 --> 00:18:39,274 SO I'LL BE WANTING HIM TO SEE 965 00:18:39,341 --> 00:18:40,774 "SOUL IN THE HOLE," LIKE 966 00:18:40,841 --> 00:18:41,507 BASKETBALL, YOU KNOW, SOUL, YOU 967 00:18:41,574 --> 00:18:41,774 KNOW. 968 00:18:41,841 --> 00:18:42,808 >> Paul: BOOGER, YEAH. 969 00:18:42,874 --> 00:18:43,941 >> Carmelo: BOOGER. 970 00:18:44,007 --> 00:18:44,574 LIKE, I'LL BE WANTING HIM TO SEE 971 00:18:44,641 --> 00:18:45,774 THAT AND JUST LIKE THE TRUE 972 00:18:45,841 --> 00:18:48,474 ESSENCE OF THAT HOOP DREAMS. 973 00:18:48,541 --> 00:18:50,441 I WANT HIM TO SEE THOSE THINGS. 974 00:18:50,507 --> 00:18:52,374 LIKE THIS IS PEOPLE THAT REALLY 975 00:18:52,441 --> 00:18:56,908 HAD TO GET IT, BECAUSE IF YOU 976 00:18:56,974 --> 00:18:58,140 UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU UNDERSTAND 977 00:18:58,207 --> 00:18:59,574 ME. 978 00:18:59,641 --> 00:19:00,207 AND WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND ME, NOW 979 00:19:00,274 --> 00:19:00,808 YOU GOING TO TRUST ME A LITTLE 980 00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:01,207 BIT MORE. 981 00:19:01,274 --> 00:19:01,741 I TRY TO GET HIM TO WATCH 982 00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:02,507 "HOOSIERS." 983 00:19:02,574 --> 00:19:03,074 TRYING TO GET HIM TO WATCH 984 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:05,307 "HOOSIERS" NOW AND IT'S LIKE, 985 00:19:05,374 --> 00:19:05,908 "DAD, THAT AIN'T BASKETBALL." 986 00:19:05,974 --> 00:19:06,741 LIKE, YO. 987 00:19:06,808 --> 00:19:07,674 [LAUGHS] 988 00:19:07,741 --> 00:19:08,240 "YO," I SAID, HE SAID, "DAD, 989 00:19:08,307 --> 00:19:09,307 THAT'S NOT BASKETBALL. 990 00:19:09,374 --> 00:19:10,374 WHY THEY JUST KEEP PASSING EIGHT 991 00:19:10,441 --> 00:19:10,674 TIMES? 992 00:19:10,741 --> 00:19:12,808 WHY IS NOBODY DRIBBLING?" 993 00:19:12,874 --> 00:19:14,374 BUT THIS WAS THE ART IN THE 994 00:19:14,441 --> 00:19:15,641 BEGINNING. 995 00:19:15,708 --> 00:19:16,374 IT WASN'T THE BEGINNING BUT THIS 996 00:19:16,441 --> 00:19:18,874 IS THE ART OF THE GAME. 997 00:19:18,941 --> 00:19:20,274 THIS IS HOW WE'RE ABLE TO DO 998 00:19:20,341 --> 00:19:21,474 WHAT WE DO TODAY, BECAUSE THAT'S 999 00:19:21,541 --> 00:19:22,808 THE BASELINE. 1000 00:19:22,874 --> 00:19:23,841 >> Keegan-Michael: YOU HAD TO BE 1001 00:19:23,908 --> 00:19:24,607 ABLE TO INNOVATE OFF OF 1002 00:19:24,674 --> 00:19:25,474 SOMETHING. 1003 00:19:25,541 --> 00:19:26,474 >> Carmelo: OF COURSE, YOU HAVE, 1004 00:19:26,541 --> 00:19:27,107 YOU HAVE TO. 1005 00:19:27,174 --> 00:19:27,774 >> Keegan-Michael: YOU HAD TO 1006 00:19:27,841 --> 00:19:28,607 INNOVATE OFF OF SOMETHING. 1007 00:19:28,674 --> 00:19:29,474 >> Maverick: WELL, LET ME ASK 1008 00:19:29,541 --> 00:19:37,741 YOU, LET ME ASK YOU. 1009 00:19:37,808 --> 00:19:38,541 IS THERE ANY EVER A SKIT ON 1010 00:19:38,607 --> 00:19:40,541 "KEY AND PEELE" THAT YOU WERE 1011 00:19:40,607 --> 00:19:43,074 LIKE, "THIS IS GOING TO WORK" 1012 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:44,808 AND IT DOESN'T WORK, OR ONE 1013 00:19:44,874 --> 00:19:46,574 YOU'RE LIKE, "I'M NOT SURE ABOUT 1014 00:19:46,641 --> 00:19:47,074 THIS ONE" AND IT WORKS? 1015 00:19:47,140 --> 00:19:47,641 THAT MUST BE A CRAZY FEELING 1016 00:19:47,708 --> 00:19:47,808 TOO. 1017 00:19:47,874 --> 00:19:48,474 >> Keegan-Michael: LISTEN. 1018 00:19:48,541 --> 00:19:49,074 I -- I DIDN'T KNOW "SUBSTITUTE 1019 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:49,674 TEACHER" WAS GOING TO DO THAT. 1020 00:19:49,741 --> 00:19:50,274 >> Maverick: YOU HAD NO IDEA? 1021 00:19:50,341 --> 00:19:50,908 >> Keegan-Michael: I KNEW IT WAS 1022 00:19:50,974 --> 00:19:51,274 A SOLID SKETCH. 1023 00:19:51,341 --> 00:19:51,808 LIKE, YOU KNOW. 1024 00:19:51,874 --> 00:19:52,574 >> Jason: 100%. 1025 00:19:52,641 --> 00:19:53,140 >> Keegan-Michael: IT'S GOT 1026 00:19:53,207 --> 00:19:53,641 PREMISE. 1027 00:19:53,708 --> 00:19:54,307 >> Jason: YEP. 1028 00:19:54,374 --> 00:19:55,240 >> Keegan-Michael: ESCALATION. 1029 00:19:55,307 --> 00:19:55,808 >> Jason: GREAT CHARACTERS. 1030 00:19:55,874 --> 00:19:56,841 >> Keegan-Michael: GOOD BUTTON. 1031 00:19:56,908 --> 00:19:57,307 >> Jason: YEP. 1032 00:19:57,374 --> 00:19:57,941 >> Keegan-Michael: YOU KNOW WHAT 1033 00:19:58,007 --> 00:19:58,941 I MEAN. 1034 00:19:59,007 --> 00:19:59,374 IT HAD ALL THE RIGHT 1035 00:19:59,441 --> 00:20:00,040 INGREDIENTS. 1036 00:20:00,107 --> 00:20:00,641 I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO 1037 00:20:00,708 --> 00:20:01,908 TURN INTO THIS. 1038 00:20:01,974 --> 00:20:02,541 I DIDN'T KNOW PEOPLE WERE GOING 1039 00:20:02,607 --> 00:20:03,140 TO BE YELLING "A-A-RON" AT ME 1040 00:20:03,207 --> 00:20:03,741 DOWN THE STREET. 1041 00:20:03,808 --> 00:20:04,307 >> Carmelo: A-A-RON. 1042 00:20:04,374 --> 00:20:05,040 >> Keegan-Michael: YOU, YOU 1043 00:20:05,107 --> 00:20:05,307 DON'T. 1044 00:20:05,374 --> 00:20:06,374 IT'S TOO -- 1045 00:20:06,441 --> 00:20:07,007 >> Carmelo: [LAUGHS] 1046 00:20:07,074 --> 00:20:07,607 >> Keegan-Michael: THERE'S NO 1047 00:20:07,674 --> 00:20:08,040 SCIENCE TO IT. 1048 00:20:08,107 --> 00:20:16,941 THERE'S A SCIENCE TO THE -- 1049 00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:20,574 THERE'S A SCIENCE TO THE 1050 00:20:20,641 --> 00:20:21,174 ASSEMBLY BUT NOT TO THE INNER. 1051 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:21,774 >> Maverick: THERE'S NO, YEAH, 1052 00:20:21,841 --> 00:20:22,040 THERE IS. 1053 00:20:22,107 --> 00:20:24,808 >> Keegan-Michael: YOU CAN'T. 1054 00:20:24,874 --> 00:20:25,407 >> Jason: IT'S LITERALLY ABOUT 1055 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:27,341 JUST GIVING A DAMN EVERY SECOND. 1056 00:20:27,407 --> 00:20:27,974 >> Carmelo: YOU EVER FEEL LIKE 1057 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,407 YOU MISSED ON "SNL?" 1058 00:20:28,474 --> 00:20:29,040 >> Jason: LIKE MISSED, MISSED A 1059 00:20:29,107 --> 00:20:29,374 MOMENT? 1060 00:20:29,441 --> 00:20:30,007 >> Carmelo: LIKE FOR ME, LIKE IF 1061 00:20:30,074 --> 00:20:30,874 I'M LIKE, GAME 1, I MISSED A 1062 00:20:30,941 --> 00:20:31,774 TOUGH SHOT. 1063 00:20:31,841 --> 00:20:33,107 >> Jason: YES. 1064 00:20:33,174 --> 00:20:33,507 >> Carmelo: RIGHT. 1065 00:20:33,574 --> 00:20:34,140 >> Keegan-Michael: THAT'S EVERY 1066 00:20:34,207 --> 00:20:34,341 WEEK. 1067 00:20:34,407 --> 00:20:34,941 >> Jason: NO. 1068 00:20:35,007 --> 00:20:35,507 >> Carmelo: HOW OFTEN? 1069 00:20:35,574 --> 00:20:39,040 [LAUGHTER] 1070 00:20:39,107 --> 00:20:39,674 >> Jason: IT'S ONLY WHEN YOU'RE 1071 00:20:39,741 --> 00:20:40,374 PLAYING, RIGHT? 1072 00:20:40,441 --> 00:20:41,040 IF YOU FLUB A LINE OR YOU FLUB A 1073 00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:41,808 JOKE, THEN YOU FEEL LIKE YOU 1074 00:20:41,874 --> 00:20:42,074 MISSED. 1075 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:43,941 AND I FUCKING FEEL ALL THOSE. 1076 00:20:44,007 --> 00:20:44,541 >> Carmelo: THAT WAS THE MOST 1077 00:20:44,607 --> 00:20:45,140 NERVOUS I'VE EVER BEEN. 1078 00:20:45,207 --> 00:20:45,774 >> Jason: WHEN YOU DID, BECAUSE 1079 00:20:45,841 --> 00:20:46,274 YOU DID OUR SKETCH? 1080 00:20:46,341 --> 00:20:46,841 YOU DID? 1081 00:20:46,908 --> 00:20:47,941 YEAH? 1082 00:20:48,007 --> 00:20:48,507 >> Carmelo: I WAS THE MOST 1083 00:20:48,574 --> 00:20:49,374 NERVOUS I'VE EVER BEEN. 1084 00:20:49,441 --> 00:20:50,341 >> Jason: I MEAN, I'VE SAID THIS 1085 00:20:50,407 --> 00:20:51,040 IN INTERVIEWS, BUT I BELIEVE 1086 00:20:51,107 --> 00:20:52,441 THIS AND AMONGST ATHLETES I 1087 00:20:52,507 --> 00:20:53,774 THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND FELLOW 1088 00:20:53,841 --> 00:20:55,407 ARTISTS -- LIKE, THERE IS NO 1089 00:20:55,474 --> 00:20:56,307 DEFENSE IN THE ARTS. 1090 00:20:56,374 --> 00:20:57,908 IT IS MOSTLY, LIKE, APATHY, OR 1091 00:20:57,974 --> 00:21:00,574 CYNICISM, OR EGO. 1092 00:21:00,641 --> 00:21:02,774 LIKE, I'M FUCKING "GOD ON 1093 00:21:02,841 --> 00:21:07,140 EARTH." 1094 00:21:07,207 --> 00:21:07,774 IF YOU LOSE TO ANY OF THOSE, YOU 1095 00:21:07,841 --> 00:21:08,307 HAVE A SHORT SHELF LIFE, I 1096 00:21:08,374 --> 00:21:08,874 THINK. 1097 00:21:08,941 --> 00:21:09,874 >> Maverick: EGO'S WHAT GETS YOU 1098 00:21:09,941 --> 00:21:10,507 TO THIS POINT. 1099 00:21:10,574 --> 00:21:11,541 >> Jason: YEP. 1100 00:21:11,607 --> 00:21:12,174 >> Maverick: BUT THEN YOU TALKED 1101 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,908 A BIT ABOUT WHERE IT BECOMES TOO 1102 00:21:12,974 --> 00:21:13,341 MUCH. 1103 00:21:13,407 --> 00:21:13,908 LIKE, YOU GO TO BACK OFF. 1104 00:21:13,974 --> 00:21:14,507 >> Keegan-Michael: YEAH, 1105 00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:15,541 EXACTLY. 1106 00:21:15,607 --> 00:21:16,274 >> Maverick: HOW DO YOU BALANCE 1107 00:21:16,341 --> 00:21:16,507 THAT? 1108 00:21:16,574 --> 00:21:18,107 >> Carmelo: COACH K USED TO SAY, 1109 00:21:18,174 --> 00:21:19,441 "BRING YOUR EGO, BECAUSE THAT 1110 00:21:19,507 --> 00:21:20,708 MAKES YOU WHO YOU ARE." 1111 00:21:20,774 --> 00:21:21,407 >> Maverick: THAT'S WHO WE WANT. 1112 00:21:21,474 --> 00:21:22,441 >> Jason: THAT'S YOUR ESSENCE. 1113 00:21:22,507 --> 00:21:23,107 >> Carmelo: WE WANT YOU AND YOUR 1114 00:21:23,174 --> 00:21:24,541 EGO. 1115 00:21:24,607 --> 00:21:25,174 NOW, WE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW 1116 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,207 TO MAKE THIS WORK. 1117 00:21:27,274 --> 00:21:28,808 [LAUGHTER] 1118 00:21:28,874 --> 00:21:30,240 BUT IF YOU DON'T BRING YOUR EGO, 1119 00:21:30,307 --> 00:21:32,174 I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU BRINGING. 1120 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,841 SO WHEN HE TOLD ME THAT, I'M 1121 00:21:32,908 --> 00:21:34,541 LIKE, DAMN. 1122 00:21:34,607 --> 00:21:36,474 >> Maverick: SO HOW DO YOU 1123 00:21:36,541 --> 00:21:38,040 BALANCE IT, THOUGH? 1124 00:21:38,107 --> 00:21:38,574 >> Jason: WHY DID I GO TO 1125 00:21:38,641 --> 00:21:39,040 SYRACUSE? 1126 00:21:39,107 --> 00:21:40,407 [LAUGHTER] 1127 00:21:40,474 --> 00:21:43,107 >> Carmelo: MY EGO, MY EGO. 1128 00:21:43,174 --> 00:21:44,174 >> Jack: SOMETHING I THINK ABOUT 1129 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,040 ALL THE TIME IS BALANCING THAT 1130 00:21:46,107 --> 00:21:46,641 EGO THING, ESPECIALLY AS A RAP 1131 00:21:46,708 --> 00:21:48,074 ARTIST. 1132 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:48,808 AND I GOT INTO IT SO MUCH 1133 00:21:48,874 --> 00:21:49,574 BECAUSE OF THE BRAVADO OF THE 1134 00:21:49,641 --> 00:21:51,207 GENRE. 1135 00:21:51,274 --> 00:21:51,874 AND I WOULD LISTEN TO IT AS A 1136 00:21:51,941 --> 00:21:52,441 KID, IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL 1137 00:21:52,507 --> 00:21:53,074 CONFIDENT. 1138 00:21:53,140 --> 00:21:54,074 I'D BE ON MY WAY TO SCHOOL AND 1139 00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:54,808 I'D FEEL LIKE THE SHIT BECAUSE I 1140 00:21:54,874 --> 00:21:55,808 WAS LISTENING TO SOMEONE THAT 1141 00:21:55,874 --> 00:21:57,140 FELT LIKE THE SHIT. 1142 00:21:57,207 --> 00:21:58,574 I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF MY IDOLS 1143 00:21:58,641 --> 00:21:59,641 THAT I WON'T NAME, BUT SOMEBODY 1144 00:21:59,708 --> 00:22:00,874 THAT I GREW UP IDOLIZING IN THE 1145 00:22:00,941 --> 00:22:02,207 SAME GENRE. 1146 00:22:02,274 --> 00:22:03,708 AND I ASKED HIM, YOU KNOW, WHAT 1147 00:22:03,774 --> 00:22:04,841 DO YOU ATTRIBUTE YOUR SUCCESS 1148 00:22:04,908 --> 00:22:08,007 TO, HOW HAVE YOU STAYED 1149 00:22:08,074 --> 00:22:08,908 REFRESHING, WHAT -- WHY YOU 1150 00:22:08,974 --> 00:22:09,841 THINK YOU'RE ON THIS RUN? 1151 00:22:09,908 --> 00:22:10,441 HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, ONE THING 1152 00:22:10,507 --> 00:22:11,841 ABOUT MOST OF THESE RAPPERS, 1153 00:22:11,908 --> 00:22:12,808 WHEN THEY'RE HOT, THEY CAN TELL 1154 00:22:12,874 --> 00:22:13,374 YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S 1155 00:22:13,441 --> 00:22:14,174 GOING ON, THEY'RE TASTE MAKERS, 1156 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,874 RIGHT? 1157 00:22:14,941 --> 00:22:15,841 BUT THE ONE THING MOST OF THESE 1158 00:22:15,908 --> 00:22:17,708 GUYS CAN'T DO IS HEAR 1159 00:22:17,774 --> 00:22:18,574 THEMSELVES. 1160 00:22:18,641 --> 00:22:20,207 THEY DON'T HAVE THE SELF 1161 00:22:20,274 --> 00:22:22,240 AWARENESS TO SAY THAT'S IT OR 1162 00:22:22,307 --> 00:22:23,441 THAT ISN'T IT." 1163 00:22:23,507 --> 00:22:24,641 SO FOR ME, IT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN 1164 00:22:24,708 --> 00:22:26,007 SO MUCH ABOUT EVERY SHOT HAS TO 1165 00:22:26,074 --> 00:22:33,841 GO IN. 1166 00:22:33,908 --> 00:22:34,441 IT'S DISCERNING WHEN I MISSED. 1167 00:22:34,507 --> 00:22:35,307 >> Jason: YEAH. 1168 00:22:35,374 --> 00:22:35,908 >> Jack: I KNOW WHEN I MAKE A 1169 00:22:35,974 --> 00:22:36,474 RECORD, I KNOW WHEN I SOUND 1170 00:22:36,541 --> 00:22:37,074 COMPELLING, AND I KNOW WHEN I 1171 00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:37,641 DON'T. 1172 00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:38,808 THERE'S EGO INVOLVED IN THAT BUT 1173 00:22:38,874 --> 00:22:39,441 I CAN LOOK AT MYSELF, I CAN HEAR 1174 00:22:39,507 --> 00:22:39,841 THE MUSIC I MAKE. 1175 00:22:39,908 --> 00:22:40,240 I'M IN THE STUDIO. 1176 00:22:40,307 --> 00:22:40,874 I KNOW WHEN SOMETHING IS SPECIAL 1177 00:22:40,941 --> 00:22:42,074 AND I KNOW WHEN IT ISN'T. 1178 00:22:42,140 --> 00:22:42,974 >> Maverick: I DON'T KNOW IF ALL 1179 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,107 YOU SEEN THE "INDUSTRY BABY" 1180 00:22:44,174 --> 00:22:46,007 VIDEO WITH LIL NAS X. 1181 00:22:46,074 --> 00:22:47,541 DID YOU KNOW THAT SONG WHEN YOU 1182 00:22:47,607 --> 00:22:48,140 RECORDED, LIKE, THIS IS ONE OF 1183 00:22:48,207 --> 00:22:49,140 THOSE ONES? 1184 00:22:49,207 --> 00:22:50,874 >> Jack: YEAH. 1185 00:22:50,941 --> 00:22:52,007 THAT WAS A BIG PART OF ME DOING 1186 00:22:52,074 --> 00:22:53,507 IT IS, I HEARD IT AND I WAS 1187 00:22:53,574 --> 00:22:54,074 LIKE, OH, THIS IS SPECIAL. 1188 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:59,040 I CAN'T LIE, THERE'S PEOPLE IN 1189 00:22:59,107 --> 00:22:59,641 MY LIFE THAT ENCOURAGED ME TO 1190 00:22:59,708 --> 00:22:59,974 PASS. 1191 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,207 >> Jason: THE PEOPLE THAT 1192 00:23:02,274 --> 00:23:06,541 ENCOURAGED YOU TO PASS, HAVE 1193 00:23:06,607 --> 00:23:07,274 THEY SAID THAT YOU WERE RIGHT? 1194 00:23:07,341 --> 00:23:07,908 >> Jack: THEY HAVEN'T SAID THOSE 1195 00:23:07,974 --> 00:23:08,507 WORDS AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL 1196 00:23:08,574 --> 00:23:08,974 EVER HEAR THOSE WORDS. 1197 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,741 >> Paul: WHY DIDN'T YOU PASS? 1198 00:23:09,808 --> 00:23:13,174 >> Jack: I FELT LIKE I SAW IT 1199 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,774 DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY SAW IT. 1200 00:23:13,841 --> 00:23:14,441 >> Jason: YEP. 1201 00:23:14,507 --> 00:23:15,174 >> Jack: THERE'S WAS ALSO A BIG 1202 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,841 GROUP THAT WAS LIKE, "FUCK YEAH, 1203 00:23:15,908 --> 00:23:16,441 DO THAT SHIT." 1204 00:23:16,507 --> 00:23:18,174 SO I FELT GOOD ABOUT IT. 1205 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,641 BUT I LIKE TO ASK. 1206 00:23:19,708 --> 00:23:20,474 >> Carmelo: WHEN YOU HAVE A BAR, 1207 00:23:20,541 --> 00:23:21,874 RIGHT, AND THIS IS AS A FAN. 1208 00:23:21,941 --> 00:23:23,207 WHEN YOU HAVE A BAR, DO YOU FEEL 1209 00:23:23,274 --> 00:23:25,240 LIKE, "I KNOW THIS IS THE BAR?" 1210 00:23:25,307 --> 00:23:25,874 >> Jack: I'LL TELL YOU THE LAST 1211 00:23:25,941 --> 00:23:26,541 ONE. 1212 00:23:26,607 --> 00:23:27,874 THERE'S A LINE IN THE LIL NAS 1213 00:23:27,941 --> 00:23:28,874 RECORD WHERE I SAY, "I DIDN'T 1214 00:23:28,974 --> 00:23:29,507 PEAK IN HIGH SCHOOL, I'M STILL 1215 00:23:29,574 --> 00:23:30,507 OUT HERE GETTING CUTER." 1216 00:23:30,574 --> 00:23:31,074 >> Maverick: YEAH, THAT WAS 1217 00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:31,441 DOPE, THOUGH. 1218 00:23:31,507 --> 00:23:33,007 >> Carmelo: OH. 1219 00:23:33,074 --> 00:23:33,541 >> Maverick: THAT WAS BAR, 1220 00:23:33,607 --> 00:23:33,941 THOUGH. 1221 00:23:34,007 --> 00:23:34,474 >> Jack: I SEE THAT LYRIC 1222 00:23:34,541 --> 00:23:34,974 EVERYWHERE NOW. 1223 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,574 >> Maverick: I LOVE THAT LYRIC 1224 00:23:35,641 --> 00:23:36,240 TOO. 1225 00:23:36,307 --> 00:23:36,874 >> Jack: BUT WHEN I WROTE IT, I 1226 00:23:36,941 --> 00:23:37,474 WAS LIKE, "WHO DOESN'T WANT TO 1227 00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:38,641 SAY THAT?" 1228 00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:39,207 WHO DOESN'T WANT TO, EVEN IF 1229 00:23:39,274 --> 00:23:39,841 IT'S NOT TRUE, WHO DOESN'T WANT 1230 00:23:39,908 --> 00:23:40,240 TO FEEL LIKE THAT? 1231 00:23:40,307 --> 00:23:40,674 >> Jason: 100%. 1232 00:23:40,741 --> 00:23:41,541 >> Jack: WHO DOESN'T WANT TO 1233 00:23:41,607 --> 00:23:42,341 FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT STILL 1234 00:23:42,407 --> 00:23:44,341 GETTING BETTER OR GETTING CUTER? 1235 00:23:44,407 --> 00:23:47,641 GETTING GIRLS POSTED AS THEIR IG 1236 00:23:47,708 --> 00:23:48,874 CAPTION AND GUYS SAY IT, LIKE. 1237 00:23:48,941 --> 00:23:49,407 >> Carmelo: THERE SHE IS. 1238 00:23:49,474 --> 00:23:49,674 [LAUGHTER] 1239 00:23:49,741 --> 00:23:50,774 >> Liz: NEXT PHOTO, LOOK OUT. 1240 00:23:50,841 --> 00:23:53,541 >> Carmelo: THERE SHE IS. 1241 00:23:53,607 --> 00:23:55,074 >> Jack: BUT WHAT IS BECOMING 1242 00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:57,040 MODERN DAY IS, JUST TO SUM IT 1243 00:23:57,107 --> 00:24:00,274 UP, YOU'RE CREATING INSTAGRAM 1244 00:24:00,341 --> 00:24:01,374 CAPTIONS. 1245 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:01,974 TRYING TO REACH PEOPLE, TRYING 1246 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,607 TO MAKE PEOPLE RESONATE WITH THE 1247 00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:02,808 MUSIC. 1248 00:24:02,874 --> 00:24:03,974 IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD AT ALL 1249 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,274 TIMES IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK 1250 00:24:05,341 --> 00:24:05,808 EARLY ON I WAS WRITING FOR 1251 00:24:05,874 --> 00:24:06,808 MYSELF. 1252 00:24:06,874 --> 00:24:07,474 I'M SAYING, "THIS IS ME, THIS IS 1253 00:24:07,541 --> 00:24:08,341 HOW I FEEL." 1254 00:24:08,407 --> 00:24:09,641 NOW I WRITE AND I SAY, "ARE 1255 00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:10,708 OTHER PEOPLE -- IS THIS 1256 00:24:10,774 --> 00:24:11,774 UNIVERSAL?" 1257 00:24:11,841 --> 00:24:13,007 OKAY, LET'S DO IT. 1258 00:24:13,074 --> 00:24:14,007 IT DON'T MATTER HOW CLEVER OR 1259 00:24:14,074 --> 00:24:15,441 TECHNICAL OR HOW WITTY I GET 1260 00:24:15,507 --> 00:24:16,808 WITH IT, NOTHING COMPARES TO 1261 00:24:16,874 --> 00:24:17,974 JUST THE TRUTH. 1262 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:18,974 >> Keegan-Michael: WHAT WE 1263 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,808 REALLY WANT TO DO IS TOUCH THAT 1264 00:24:20,874 --> 00:24:21,407 UNIVERSAL PIECE THAT JACK WAS 1265 00:24:21,474 --> 00:24:22,307 TALKING ABOUT. 1266 00:24:22,374 --> 00:24:22,908 WHERE'S THAT LITTLE UNIVERSAL 1267 00:24:22,974 --> 00:24:24,040 PIECE? 1268 00:24:24,107 --> 00:24:26,974 THE HOLY GRAIL IS WHEN YOU HAVE 1269 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,674 THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE 1270 00:24:28,741 --> 00:24:31,007 SOMETHING TABOO AND MAKE 1271 00:24:31,074 --> 00:24:31,641 SOMEBODY SEE IT FROM A DIFFERENT 1272 00:24:31,708 --> 00:24:32,808 ANGLE. 1273 00:24:32,874 --> 00:24:35,774 WHEN WE DID "LUTHER," THE BARACK 1274 00:24:35,841 --> 00:24:37,007 OBAMA'S ANGER TRANSLATOR, JORDAN 1275 00:24:37,074 --> 00:24:38,574 WOULD PLAY BARACK AND I'D BE, 1276 00:24:38,641 --> 00:24:39,874 YOU KNOW, LUTHER, "WHAT THE FUCK 1277 00:24:39,941 --> 00:24:40,841 IS THESE," YOU KNOW. 1278 00:24:40,908 --> 00:24:43,507 SOMEBODY TOLD ME ONCE, THEY 1279 00:24:43,574 --> 00:24:46,040 SAID, "MY CONSERVATIVE UNCLE 1280 00:24:46,107 --> 00:24:47,441 ALSO ENJOYS THE SCENE" BECAUSE 1281 00:24:47,507 --> 00:24:50,107 WHETHER HE LIKES OBAMA'S 1282 00:24:50,174 --> 00:24:51,874 POLITICS OR NOT, HE GOES, "THAT 1283 00:24:51,941 --> 00:24:53,407 GUY, HE IS PRETTY RESERVED." 1284 00:24:53,474 --> 00:24:54,374 >> Carmelo: COMEDY'S UNIVERSAL. 1285 00:24:54,441 --> 00:24:54,874 >> Keegan-Michael: IT'S 1286 00:24:54,941 --> 00:24:55,174 UNIVERSAL. 1287 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,307 IT CAN BE. 1288 00:24:56,374 --> 00:24:57,407 SO HE -- THAT REPUBLICAN GUY 1289 00:24:57,474 --> 00:24:59,574 JUST GOES, "WELL, HATE HIS 1290 00:24:59,641 --> 00:25:02,974 POLITICS, BUT THAT'S CLEVER." 1291 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,874 >> Jason: AND I FEEL LIKE AS 1292 00:25:04,941 --> 00:25:05,908 LONG AS IT'S PERSONAL. 1293 00:25:05,974 --> 00:25:07,074 IF IT'S COMING FROM YOU, IF IT'S 1294 00:25:07,140 --> 00:25:10,607 COMING FROM YOUR WISHBONE, FROM 1295 00:25:10,674 --> 00:25:12,874 THAT HUM INSIDE YOU, I THINK 1296 00:25:12,941 --> 00:25:14,074 IT'S REALLY NEAT THAT SO MANY 1297 00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:15,341 MORE PEOPLE FEEL IT MORE THAN WE 1298 00:25:15,407 --> 00:25:16,641 REALIZE. 1299 00:25:16,708 --> 00:25:17,207 >> Maverick: I WANT TO BRING 1300 00:25:17,274 --> 00:25:18,074 THIS BACK TO THE ATHLETES. 1301 00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:19,007 LIKE, THERE'S ALL THESE GREATS 1302 00:25:19,074 --> 00:25:20,407 WHO'VE COME BEFORE YOU, DO YOU 1303 00:25:20,474 --> 00:25:21,374 THINK ABOUT THE COMPARISON TO 1304 00:25:21,441 --> 00:25:23,841 THEM? 1305 00:25:23,908 --> 00:25:25,174 >> Liz: FOR ME, LIKE I GOT INTO 1306 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,140 BASKETBALL TO MAKE FRIENDS. 1307 00:25:27,207 --> 00:25:29,574 I WAS BEING BULLIED IN SCHOOL 1308 00:25:29,641 --> 00:25:30,374 AND THAT WAS MY LIFE. 1309 00:25:30,441 --> 00:25:32,708 I LOVED THE SOCIAL SIDE OF IT. 1310 00:25:32,774 --> 00:25:34,541 I HAD COACHES THAT SAW SOMETHING 1311 00:25:34,607 --> 00:25:37,274 IN ME BUT I NEVER REALLY HAD A 1312 00:25:37,341 --> 00:25:38,541 MENTOR UNTIL KOBE, YOU KNOW. 1313 00:25:38,607 --> 00:25:40,274 I HAD MY FIRST WEEK ON CALL AND 1314 00:25:40,341 --> 00:25:40,641 THEN KOBE DIES. 1315 00:25:40,708 --> 00:25:41,708 I LOST MY IDOL AND MY MENTOR IN 1316 00:25:41,774 --> 00:25:44,874 A WEEK. 1317 00:25:44,941 --> 00:25:45,808 I NEVER HAD A BASKETBALL TRAINER 1318 00:25:45,874 --> 00:25:47,841 UNTIL LAST YEAR. 1319 00:25:47,908 --> 00:25:50,774 AND EVEN WITHIN A YEAR, I'VE 1320 00:25:50,841 --> 00:25:51,307 NEVER DRIBBLED THE BALL IN 1321 00:25:51,374 --> 00:25:52,207 BETWEEN MY LEGS IN A GAME. 1322 00:25:52,274 --> 00:25:53,607 >> Carmelo: [LAUGHS] 1323 00:25:53,674 --> 00:25:54,941 >> Jason: WHAT? 1324 00:25:55,007 --> 00:25:58,407 >> Liz: DON'T LAUGH AT ME LIKE 1325 00:25:58,474 --> 00:25:59,507 THAT! 1326 00:25:59,574 --> 00:26:00,007 LIKE, I'M A POST PLAYER. 1327 00:26:00,074 --> 00:26:00,941 LIKE, I'M 6'8". 1328 00:26:01,007 --> 00:26:01,974 >> Carmelo: YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO. 1329 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,607 >> Maverick: YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO. 1330 00:26:02,674 --> 00:26:03,240 >> Carmelo: LISTEN, MY CENTER 1331 00:26:03,307 --> 00:26:04,808 DRIBBLED IN BETWEEN HIS LEGS. 1332 00:26:04,874 --> 00:26:05,874 >> Maverick: AND HE OUT. 1333 00:26:05,941 --> 00:26:06,541 >> Carmelo: COACH, COME GET HIM. 1334 00:26:06,607 --> 00:26:06,908 [LAUGHTER] 1335 00:26:06,974 --> 00:26:10,808 >> Jason: HE HAS LOST HIS MIND. 1336 00:26:10,874 --> 00:26:11,441 >> Maverick: HE'S TRIPPING, GET 1337 00:26:11,507 --> 00:26:11,841 HIM OUT. 1338 00:26:11,908 --> 00:26:12,341 >> Jason: WATCHING THOSE 1339 00:26:12,407 --> 00:26:12,774 PETE MARAVICH TAPES. 1340 00:26:12,841 --> 00:26:13,140 [LAUGHTER] 1341 00:26:13,207 --> 00:26:14,641 >> Liz: BUT I GREW UP. 1342 00:26:14,708 --> 00:26:15,541 I GREW UP, EVERYONE BE LIKE, 1343 00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:18,207 "YOU SHAQ, YOU BABY MAMA SHAQ." 1344 00:26:18,274 --> 00:26:18,808 I WAS LIKE, "NO, I WANT TO BE 1345 00:26:18,874 --> 00:26:19,341 KOBE." 1346 00:26:19,407 --> 00:26:19,908 LIKE, YOU MAKE ME WATCH SHAQ 1347 00:26:19,974 --> 00:26:21,407 VIDEOS. 1348 00:26:21,474 --> 00:26:21,941 I'M BUSY WATCHING KOBE AND 1349 00:26:22,007 --> 00:26:23,240 THAT'S WHO I WANTED TO BE. 1350 00:26:23,307 --> 00:26:24,674 AND I THINK I NEVER REALLY GOT 1351 00:26:24,741 --> 00:26:26,140 CAUGHT UP WITH WHO'S MY 1352 00:26:26,207 --> 00:26:26,808 COMPETITION OR WHO WAS BEFORE 1353 00:26:26,874 --> 00:26:27,474 ME, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW 1354 00:26:27,541 --> 00:26:28,574 THE GAME. 1355 00:26:28,641 --> 00:26:30,207 LIKE, I REALLY ONLY STARTED 1356 00:26:30,274 --> 00:26:30,741 WATCHING NBA PROBABLY IN 1357 00:26:30,808 --> 00:26:32,441 QUARANTINE LAST YEAR. 1358 00:26:32,507 --> 00:26:34,040 >> Paul: AND 'MELO, I WANT TO 1359 00:26:34,107 --> 00:26:35,541 ASK YOU, YOU PLAYED WITH THE 1360 00:26:35,607 --> 00:26:36,441 GREATS. 1361 00:26:36,507 --> 00:26:38,174 TOP 10 SCORER ALL-TIME, WHAT'S 1362 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,808 THAT MEAN TO YOU WHEN YOU START 1363 00:26:38,874 --> 00:26:41,174 THINKING ABOUT LEGACY? 1364 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,741 >> Carmelo: IT'S HARD, MAN. 1365 00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:42,407 I KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 1366 00:26:42,474 --> 00:26:43,574 LIKE, OBVIOUSLY I WAS COGNIZANT 1367 00:26:43,641 --> 00:26:45,841 OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. 1368 00:26:45,908 --> 00:26:47,641 AND WE PLAYING IN ATLANTA AND IT 1369 00:26:47,708 --> 00:26:50,541 WAS A BACK-TO-BACK. 1370 00:26:50,607 --> 00:26:53,541 AND I'M LIKE -- 1371 00:26:53,607 --> 00:26:54,407 >> Liz: [LAUGHS] 1372 00:26:54,474 --> 00:26:55,874 >> Carmelo: IT'S ATLANTA. 1373 00:26:55,941 --> 00:26:56,774 >> Maverick: [LAUGHS] 1374 00:26:56,841 --> 00:26:58,574 >> Carmelo: BACK-TO-BACK. 1375 00:26:58,641 --> 00:26:59,607 [LAUGHS] 1376 00:26:59,674 --> 00:27:00,374 >> Liz: THEM YOUNG -- 1377 00:27:00,441 --> 00:27:02,441 >> Carmelo: I NEEDED 10 POINTS. 1378 00:27:02,507 --> 00:27:03,074 SO I'M LIKE, "OH, MAN, YOU KNOW 1379 00:27:03,140 --> 00:27:04,507 WHAT? 1380 00:27:04,574 --> 00:27:05,240 I'M A JUST TRY TO GO GET IT 1381 00:27:05,307 --> 00:27:06,407 EARLY." 1382 00:27:06,474 --> 00:27:08,307 LET ME JUST GO GET IT. 1383 00:27:08,374 --> 00:27:09,074 [LAUGHTER] 1384 00:27:09,140 --> 00:27:11,808 LET ME GET THE 10 OUT THE WAY. 1385 00:27:11,874 --> 00:27:12,507 >> Maverick: LET ME SAY, LET ME 1386 00:27:12,574 --> 00:27:13,074 GET MINE AND GET ON OUT YOUR 1387 00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:13,474 WAY. 1388 00:27:13,541 --> 00:27:14,841 [LAUGHTER] 1389 00:27:14,908 --> 00:27:16,174 >> Carmelo: I FELT MYSELF, I WAS 1390 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:16,841 PLAYING, YOU KNOW, I'M PLAYING 1391 00:27:16,908 --> 00:27:17,841 WELL. 1392 00:27:17,908 --> 00:27:20,841 I STARTED OFF GREAT. 1393 00:27:20,908 --> 00:27:22,841 AND THAT ONE SHOT, IT WAS A AND 1394 00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:24,574 ONE THREE AND I'M LIKE, I FELT 1395 00:27:24,641 --> 00:27:25,941 IT, THOUGH. 1396 00:27:26,007 --> 00:27:26,874 LIKE, I JUST KNEW, OKAY, THIS 1397 00:27:26,941 --> 00:27:27,708 IS -- 1398 00:27:27,774 --> 00:27:28,274 >> Jack: YOU JUST KNOW. 1399 00:27:28,341 --> 00:27:29,074 >> Carmelo: I KNEW THAT MOMENT. 1400 00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:30,007 >> Jack: YEAH. 1401 00:27:30,074 --> 00:27:31,174 >> Carmelo: YOU FELT THE ENERGY 1402 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,808 AND THE CROWD KNEW WHAT TIME IT 1403 00:27:31,874 --> 00:27:32,074 WAS. 1404 00:27:32,140 --> 00:27:33,207 >> Jack: YEAH. 1405 00:27:33,274 --> 00:27:34,708 >> Carmelo: I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW 1406 00:27:34,774 --> 00:27:35,908 THAT THAT WAS THE TOP, THAT WAS 1407 00:27:35,974 --> 00:27:37,507 THE TOP 10 BUCKET. 1408 00:27:37,574 --> 00:27:38,207 >> Jack: SO RIGHT BEFORE YOU 1409 00:27:38,274 --> 00:27:39,207 TOOK IT, YOU FOUND OUT? 1410 00:27:39,274 --> 00:27:41,174 >> Carmelo: IT WAS THE TIME I 1411 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,774 WAS PROBABLY LIKE, "YOU NEED 1412 00:27:41,841 --> 00:27:43,007 THREE." 1413 00:27:43,074 --> 00:27:43,741 AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, I'M PULLING 1414 00:27:43,808 --> 00:27:44,507 THIS SHIT, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. 1415 00:27:44,574 --> 00:27:48,240 [LAUGHTER] 1416 00:27:48,307 --> 00:27:51,140 NOW IF WE WAS IN UTAH SOMEWHERE, 1417 00:27:51,207 --> 00:27:52,274 THAT MOMENT PROBABLY WOULDN'T 1418 00:27:52,341 --> 00:27:52,841 HAPPEN LIKE THAT. 1419 00:27:52,908 --> 00:27:53,808 WE WAS IN ATLANTA. 1420 00:27:53,874 --> 00:28:01,274 [LAUGHTER] 1421 00:28:01,341 --> 00:28:02,240 >> Maverick: AS A WHITE RAPPER, 1422 00:28:02,307 --> 00:28:03,708 DO PEOPLE TRY AND LIKE, "YOU 1423 00:28:03,774 --> 00:28:04,374 SUPPOSED TO SAY THIS" OR DO THAT 1424 00:28:04,441 --> 00:28:05,107 AT ALL? 1425 00:28:05,174 --> 00:28:05,741 >> Jack: I MEAN, IT EXISTS FOR 1426 00:28:05,808 --> 00:28:07,207 SURE. 1427 00:28:07,274 --> 00:28:07,908 OF COURSE I'M WHITE, SOMETHING 1428 00:28:07,974 --> 00:28:09,607 IS NEVER GOING TO CHANGE. 1429 00:28:09,674 --> 00:28:10,240 >> Carmelo: BRO, YOU'VE BEEN TO 1430 00:28:10,307 --> 00:28:14,274 MAGIC CITY. 1431 00:28:14,341 --> 00:28:14,641 >> Liz: [LAUGHS] 1432 00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:15,374 >> Carmelo: YEAH, FUCK ALL THAT 1433 00:28:15,441 --> 00:28:17,207 WHITE SHIT. 1434 00:28:17,274 --> 00:28:22,574 [LAUGHS] 1435 00:28:22,641 --> 00:28:23,607 >> Maverick: SECOND CITY'S GREAT 1436 00:28:23,674 --> 00:28:24,174 BUT THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROV 1437 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,674 GOING ON IN MAGIC CITY. 1438 00:28:24,741 --> 00:28:24,941 [LAUGHTER] 1439 00:28:25,007 --> 00:28:36,040 >> Carmelo: IMPROV. 1440 00:28:36,107 --> 00:28:36,674 ♪ SCHEMIN' AND LET ME TELL YOU 1441 00:28:36,741 --> 00:28:37,040 'BOUT MY LIFE ♪ 1442 00:28:37,107 --> 00:28:37,708 ♪ PAINKILLERS ONLY PUT ME IN THE 1443 00:28:37,774 --> 00:28:38,007 TWILIGHT ♪ 1444 00:28:38,074 --> 00:28:38,541 ♪ WHERE PRETTY PUSSY AND 1445 00:28:38,607 --> 00:28:39,140 BENJAMIN IS THE HIGHLIGHT ♪ 1446 00:28:39,207 --> 00:28:39,741 ♪ NOW TELL MY MAMA I LOVE HER 1447 00:28:39,808 --> 00:28:40,240 BUT THIS WHAT I LIKE ♪ 1448 00:28:40,307 --> 00:28:40,874 ♪ LORD KNOWS, TWENTY OF 'EM IN 1449 00:28:40,941 --> 00:28:41,174 MY CHEVY ♪ 1450 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,808 ♪ TELL 'EM ALL TO COME AND GET 1451 00:28:41,874 --> 00:28:42,441 ME, REAPIN' EVERYTHING I SOW ♪ 1452 00:28:42,507 --> 00:28:43,107 ♪ SO MY KARMA COME IN HEAVEN, NO 1453 00:28:43,174 --> 00:28:43,641 PRELIMINARY HEARINGS ON MY 1454 00:28:43,708 --> 00:28:43,908 RECORD ♪ 1455 00:28:43,974 --> 00:28:44,541 ♪ I'M A MOTHERFUCKING GANGSTER 1456 00:28:44,607 --> 00:28:45,174 IN SILENCE FOR THE RECORD, UH ♪ 1457 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,841 ♪ TELL THE WORLD I KNOW IT'S TOO 1458 00:28:45,908 --> 00:28:46,074 LATE ♪ 1459 00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:46,708 ♪ BOYS AND GIRLS, I THINK I'VE 1460 00:28:46,774 --> 00:28:47,007 GONE CRAY ♪ 1461 00:28:47,074 --> 00:28:47,774 ♪ DROWN INSIDE MY VICES ALL 1462 00:28:47,841 --> 00:28:48,341 DAY ♪ 1463 00:28:48,407 --> 00:28:49,274 ♪ WON'T YOU PLEASE BELIEVE WHEN 1464 00:28:49,341 --> 00:28:49,841 I SAY ♪ 1465 00:28:49,908 --> 00:28:51,107 ♪ WOULDN'T YOU KNOW ♪ 1466 00:28:51,174 --> 00:28:52,407 ♪ WE BEEN HURT, BEEN DOWN 1467 00:28:52,474 --> 00:28:53,174 BEFORE, NIGGA ♪ 1468 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,240 ♪ WHEN OUR PRIDE WAS LOW ♪