♪ ♪
>> THE FOLLOWING IS A
PRESENTATION OF HBO SPORTS.
>> Jemele: DID YOU KNOW THAT
GUYS SPIT ON YOU?
>> Trae: NO, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T,
I DIDN'T UNTIL AFTER THE GAME.
>> Maverick: UNTIL YOU SAW THE
VIDEO.
>> Trae: YEAH, YEAH.
>> DJ Khaled: SOMEBODY SPIT ON
YOU.
IT'S ON.
OH
[LAUGHTER]
NO, I GET IT.
NO, I GET IT
BECAUSE THEY SPIT ON.
IT'S ON.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
>> DJ Khaled: I GET IT.
WE'RE HUMAN.
WE STILL GOT TO.
OH MY BAD, THE SHOT.
>> Maverick: NO, YOU, NO.
[LAUGHTER]
>> DJ Khaled: NO, NO.
NO.
♪ ALLS MY LIFE, I HAS TO FIGHT,
NIGGA ♪
♪ ALLS MY LIFE, I... ♪
♪ I'M FUCKED UP, HOMIE, YOU
FUCKED UP ♪
♪ BUT IF GOD GOT US, THEN WE
GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ DO YOU HEAR ME, DO YOU FEEL
ME? WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ HUH? WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ DO YOU HEAR ME, DO YOU FEEL
ME? WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ UH, AND WHEN I WAKE UP ♪
♪ I RECOGNIZE YOU'RE LOOKING AT
ME FOR THE PAY CUT ♪
>> DJ Khaled: TO MAKE A LONG
STORY SHORT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING, I STARTED DJING YOU
KNOW, THAT'S MY, MY LOVE.
AND THEN I STARTED MAKING BEATS
AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, I WAS DJING, MAKING BEATS
OUT MY GARAGE AND THEN I END UP
GETTING RADIO.
I ALWAYS WANTED TO GET ON RADIO.
>> Maverick: THE DJ KHALED WE
ALWAYS KNOW, YOU WAS THAT THEN.
>> DJ Khaled: FROM DAY ONE YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING MY, MY YOU
KNOW, ANYBODY THAT KNOW ME FROM
DAY ONE WOULD TELL YOU THAT I'M
THE SAME KHALED, KHALED, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING WITH JUST
MORE AMBITION, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING.
WHEN YOU BE YOURSELF YOU KNOW,
THAT'S THE, THE PUREST AND THE
TRUEST OF SOMEBODY IS BEING
YOURSELF.
AND YOU KNOW, BEING YOURSELF IS,
IS THE GREATEST THING EVER.
AND THE WORD, YOU KNOW, IN THE
STREETS THEY START TALKING THIS
KID KHALED, HE NICE, YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING, YO THIS KID
KHALED FROM MIAMI, HE NICE.
SO, IT STARTED SPREADING AND IT,
AND IT JUST STARTED GROWING AND
IT HAS GOT REALLY BIG YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND I KNEW THAT ENERGY WAS
SPECIAL.
SO, I WAS LIKE, NOW HOW CAN I
BREAK THIS CHAIN THEY GOT WHERE
THEY DON'T LET US IN.
>> DJ Khaled: AND THEN I END UP,
YOU KNOW, I'M A START PUTTING MY
OWN ALBUMS OUT.
AND THE REASON WHY I DECIDED TO
MAKE MY OWN ALBUMS IS BECAUSE I
USED TO SHOT BEATS TO ALL THE
RAPPERS AND ALL THE SINGERS.
BUT I WAS LIKE MAN, THERE'S SOME
BEATS I WANT YOU TO, YOU KNOW,
THAT THEY DIDN'T PICK AND I WAS
MAN, THEY DON'T SEE WHAT I'M
SEEING.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> DJ Khaled: I COULD GIVE A
BEAT TO MEEK AND MEEK MIGHT NOT
SEE WHAT I'M SEEING BUT I SAY,
OH MEEK LET'S DO THIS FOR MY
ALBUM AND HE END UP GIVING ME
SOMETHING THAT'S RARE AND
SPECIAL BECAUSE IT WAS ON MY
PROJECT.
>> Meek Mill: NOT TO CUT YOU
OFF, LET'S GET RIGHT BACK KHALED
GAVE ME ALL EYES ON YOU PROBABLY
LIKE THREE YEARS BEFORE IT CAME
OUT.
>> Maverick: REALLY.
>> Jemele: YEAH.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
I HAD IT IN, IN MY HARD DRIVE
FOR THREE YEARS BUT I DIDN'T
WANT TO USE THE SONG BECAUSE I
THOUGHT IT WAS COMMERCIAL.
BUT I END UP USING LIKE TWO
YEARS LATER, END UP GOING LIKE
FOUR TIMES PLATINUM AND I GOT IT
FROM HIM.
>> DJ Khaled: IT, IT WAS MEEK'S
FIRST NUMBER ONE.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
>> DJ Khaled: FIRST NUMBER ONE
ON RADIO.
>> Meek Mill: END UP GOING
CRAZY.
>> Paul: SPEAKING OF
BREAKTHROUGHS WE HAVE THE YOUNG
BOYS.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE.
>> Jemele: [LAUGHS]
>> Paul: TRAE AND CHASE.
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR IN THE NFL.
>> Maverick: CONGRATULATIONS, BY
THE WAY.
>> Paul: CONGRATULATIONS.
[CLAPPING]
>> Maverick: BY THE WAY HE WAS
DESTINED TO BE ROOKIE OF THE
YEAR THOUGH.
>> Maverick: I MEAN LIKE.
>> Meek Mill: OH HERE WE GO.
>> Jemele: OH I KNOW, I WAS JUST
SAYING HERE WE GO.
[LAUGHS]
>> Meek Mill: HE KNOWS WHERE
HE'S GOING.
>> Maverick: WELL OF COURSE HE'S
A BUCKEYE.
I MEAN.
>> Jemele: YEAH, BUT.
>> Maverick: HE WAS LIKE, I
THINK IT WAS THE FIFTH GRADE
PICTURE OF YOU THAT SAYS.
>> Chase: THAT WAS IN UH, FIRST
OR SECOND GRADE.
>> Maverick: WHAT DID IT SAY.
>> Chase: IT SAID I WAS GOING TO
BE AN NFL PLAYER.
THEY ASK YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO
BE, YOU KNOW.
>> Trae: WOW.
>> Chase: YEAH.
MANIFESTATION.
>> Maverick: YOU KNEW, DID YOU
FEEL, DID YOU REALLY FEEL IT
THEN?
>> Chase: I DID.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WILL
GROW UP AND PEOPLE ASK YOU WHAT
YOU WANTED TO BE AND I, MY GO T
WAS A VETERINARIAN BECAUSE IF
YOU SAY NFL THAT AIN'T LIKE, AL
RIGHT BUT WHAT'S YOUR PLAN B IF
THAT DON'T WORK OUT.
SO, I SAY VET OR I SAY A COP.
BUT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND I
ALWAYS HAD NFL, SO.
>> Maverick: ALWAYS.
>> Chase: ALWAYS.
>> Maverick: WHEN DID YOU
REALIZE, LIKE WHAT WAS YOUR
FIRST ONE, YOUR FIRST GAME WHEN
YOU WAS LIKE DAMN, I'M REALLY
GOOD AND I CAN PLAY AT THIS
LEVEL BECAUSE EVERYBODY GO IN,
YOU'RE A ROOKIE, YOU STARTING
OVER AND IT WAS LIKE BEING A
FRESHMAN ALL OVER AGAIN.
>> Chase: YEAH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT I
CAN PLAY FOR THEIR CAMP.
>> Jemele: DIDN'T, DIDN'T YOU
SAY OFF THE RIP YOU WANTED TO
SACK TOM BRADY.
>> Chase: YEAH, YEAH.
[LAUGHTER]
YES.
>> Jemele: HOW'D THAT WORK OUT?
>> Chase: IT WAS, IT WAS --
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY GOING
TO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR
POWER NOT TO LET YOU.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE.
>> Chase: NOT TO LET YOU GET
HIM.
>> Jemele: YES.
>> Chase: BUT WE PLAY THEM THIS
YEAR TOO AGAIN AND I'M COMING
AGAIN.
I MEAN.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Chase: WHAT YOU WANT ME TO
SAY?
>> Maverick: THAT'S YOUR JOB.
>> Chase: LIKE WHAT YOU WANT ME
TO SAY.
>> Maverick: WHAT ELSE CAN YOU
DO.
>> Paul: I LOVE THAT.
>> Chase: YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SAY
WHAT THEY WANT BUT YOU KNOW, I'M
A, I'M A PIT BULL WHEN I'M ON
THAT FIELD, SO.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
EXACTLY.
>> Chase: STRAIGHT UP.
>> Maverick: AND TRAE OF COURSE,
WATCHING THE KICKS SERIES AND IT
WAS CLEAR YOU WENT INTO THE
SERIES WANTING TO WIN BUT YOUR
SECOND GOAL WAS TO LEAVE NEW
YORK A VILLAIN, LIKE YOU WANTED
THEM TO KNOW.
>> Trae: YEAH.
WELL, I MEAN, WHERE I STARTED
OUT THE, THE SERIES EVERYBODY
WAS DOUBTING US.
SO, LIKE GOING INTO THE SERIES
EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED.
NEW YORK WAS, NEW YORK'S BACK.
IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S A KNICKS
CITY.
EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE
KNICKS BEING BACK AND I MEAN,
DESERVEDLY SO.
THEY HAD A GREAT YEAR.
BUT NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO, IT WAS LIKE AS THE FIRST
GAME KIND OF HAPPENED THE
VILLAIN KIND OF STUFF HAPPENED.
EVERYBODY STARTED CHANTING "F
U".
[LAUGHTER]
>> Paul: IT FELT LIKE YOUR LEVEL
OF PLAY WENT EVEN HIGHER WHEN
THEY STARTED FUCKING WITH YOU.
>> Trae: YEAH.
NO, IT DO.
I DO.
I MEAN, IT MAKES YOU LOCK IN.
IT MAKES YOU WANT TO SHUT
EVERYBODY UP.
I MEAN, FOR ME THAT'S, THAT'S MY
MENTALITY.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN DOUBTED.
I'VE BEEN, EVERYBODY SAID A LOT
ABOUT ME AND IT'S, I'VE ALWAYS
UNDERSTOOD THAT MY GAME CAN, CAN
DO THE MOST TALKING.
SO, EVERYBODY CAN SAY WHATEVER
THEY WANT AND THE WHOLE CROWD
CAN DO WHATEVER BUT MY, MY
GAME'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO,
GOING TO PROVE ITSELF.
AND SO AT THE END THAT'S JUST
KIND OF WHY I'VE, I MEAN, I JUST
LET ALL THE EMOTIONS OUT AND
EVERYTHING AND EVERY GAME IS
JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.
>> Paul: AND THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE, RIGHT.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LINE YOU
DON'T CROSS, RIGHT.
LIKE, SPITTING IS CLEARLY
CROSSING THAT LINE.
BUT MEEK, I SAW A SHOT OF YOU
ALL GOING AT IT IN A FRIENDLY.
>> Maverick: HAVING A LITTLE FUN
TOO.
>> Paul: WAY DURING THE
PLAYOFFS, YEAH.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH, WE TALKING
GOOD TIME.
>> Trae: THAT'S THE BEST PART
ABOUT IT.
LIKE, EVERY, EVERY FAN WANTS
THEIR TEAM TO WIN.
LIKE, MEEK ROCKS WITH PHILLY TO
THE END.
SO, IT'S LIKE I UNDERSTAND THAT
AND AS A FAN I, I EXPECT HIM TO
TALK SHIT TO ME.
LIKE, WE, WE.
>> Maverick: BUT DO YOU WANT HIM
TO?
>> Trae: YEAH.
I MEAN, I --
>> Maverick: YOU LIKE THAT.
>> Trae: WE WAS TALKING.
LIKE, THERE WOULD BE TIMES IN
GAME I LOOK AT HIM, IT'S A LONG
GAME.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Meek Mill: GET TURNED AROUND
DIFFERENT TIME.
>> Trae: BUT IT'S THAT'S JUST
HOW IT IS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S
APPROPRIATE FAN SHIT TALKING.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST PART
ABOUT IT THOUGH.
>> Meek Mill: ME, I FEED OFF
THAT SHIT TOO.
I MEAN, I COME FROM LIKE THAT
ENVIRONMENT OF LIKE NO SUPPORT
LIKE WE AIN'T REALLY HAD SUPPORT
OF SHIT.
SO LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU COME UP
AND YOU DEDICATE YOURSELF TO
SOMETHING AND THEN YOU'VE GOT
YOUR MIND LOCKED INTO THAT WHEN
PEOPLE TELL ME KNOW I'M LIKE IN
A BUSINESS OF PROVING PEOPLE
WRONG.
LIKE, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S
MAKING A, A JUMP SHOT IN A TRASH
CAN THAT FAR.
LIKE, I WILL STAY HERE SIX HOURS
UNTIL I MAKE MY SHOT.
>> Paul: MEEK, IF WE TALKING
ABOUT LIKE SCORE IT FEELS LIKE
AND I MEAN THIS AS THE UTMOST
COMPLIMENT, IT FEELS LIKE WHEN
YOU'RE RAPPING YOU ALWAYS FEEL
LIKE YOU DOWN 20.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
>> Paul: LIKE, YOU, YOU NEVER
COASTED.
>> Maverick: YOU, YOU RAP WITH
URGENCY.
>> Paul: YES.
>> Maverick: YEAH, YOU RAP WITH
URGENCY.
>> Paul: YOU ALWAYS, WHERE DOES
THAT COME FROM.
>> Meek Mill: MY ENVIRONMENT IS
LIKE REAL RAP IS IN MY
ENVIRONMENT.
LIKE, EVERYBODY RAP.
PEOPLE MOMS, DADS, SONS IN
PHILADELPHIA.
IT'S LIKE A HIP HOP TYPE
COMMUNITY SO IN YOUR AREA.
IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU GOT 500
RAPPERS, YOU GOT REALLY
STANDOUT.
LIKE, WHEN I WAS 18 IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD KHALED WAS COMING
THROUGH PHILLY.
I WAS PUTTING UP ARENAS, SHAKING
ARENAS, 18, 19 YEARS OLD.
I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2012, UM,
AS WE IN 2021.
>> DJ Khaled: IN BASKETBALL AND
MUSIC OR ANYTHING YOU KNOW WHAT
I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE OF BEING HOT RIGHT
NOW AND THEN BEING TIMELESS, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO, TO
TALK TIMELESS TALK AND THAT,
THAT SPECIAL CLOTH, YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHEN YOU ON TOP YOU KNOW, IT'S
CRAZY HOW YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY
WILL TRY TO PULL YOU DOWN FOR A
SECOND AND THEN BECAUSE OF A NEW
ENERGY WHICH THAT NEW ENERGY
MIGHT BE THE BIGGEST THING EVER
BUT YOU SHOULD NEVER TEAR DOWN
YOU KNOW.
>> Maverick: EXACTLY.
>> DJ Khaled: THE PEOPLE THAT
ALSO ARE GREAT AND TIMELESS
BECAUSE THE NEW GUY IS PROBABLY
GOING TO BE, GOD WILLING WE WANT
HIM TO.
>> Jemele: EXACTLY.
>> DJ Khaled: TO BE THE TIMELESS
TOO.
BUT JUST RESPECT YOU KNOW,
EVERYTHING.
>> Meek Mill: A LITTLE BABY AND
I'M NOT GOING TO LIE THAT'S
PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO, A
LITTLE BABY TERRORIZING ME IN
THE STUDIO.
I HAD WRITERS BLOCK.
I'M IN THE HOUSE, A BUNCH OF
BABIES, QUARANTINED.
[LAUGHTER]
WHILE I'M JUST, MY LIFESTYLE
JUST CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
I CAN'T EVEN DO IT.
>> Maverick: SO YOU WENT TO THE
STUDIO WITH THEM AND THEY
POPPING, THEY JUST VERSE AFTER
VERSE.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
THEY START COMING TO MY HOUSE
BUT I'M JUST NOTICING LIKE THESE
YOUNG BOYS LIKE THEY SWOOPING
ME.
I'M TAKING TWO HOURS TO FINISH
MY RIFT.
[LAUGHTER]
KHALED KNOW I DO NINE SONGS A
DAY.
BUT I JUST WASN'T IN IT.
BUT I FED OFF OF THEM THOUGH.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M A.
AND I TOLD THEM, YEAH, YOU ALL
YOUNG IN THE BUILDING I'M
FEEDING OFF YOU ALL TODAY, I
NEED THE ENERGY.
THEY CAME BACK FOUR WEEKS LATER,
I'M IN THAT ROOM GOING LIKE THIS
BANGING OUT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST, WE JUST
FED OFF EACH OTHER THROUGH THAT
TIME.
>> Jemele: THE THING ABOUT HIP
HOP NOW THAT'S REALLY
INTERESTING IS THAT IT'S MULTI
GENERATIONAL NOW.
>> Maverick: TOTALLY.
>> Jemele: AND SEE IT WASN'T
THAT WAY BEFORE AND THAT'S WHY
LIKE I FEEL LIKE IN SPORTS, I'VE
SAID THIS ABOUT TOP FIVES WITH
YOU KNOW, BASKETBALL, THE TOP
FIVE HAS GOT TO CHANGE.
IT CAN'T BE THE SAME ONE ROOTED
FOREVER BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING
DIFFERENT SHIT ALL THE TIME.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE.
>> Jemele: BUT IN HIP HOP I FEEL
LIKE WE'RE JUST SO MUCH MORE
EMOTIONAL ABOUT WHO THOSE TOP
FIVE RAPPERS ARE.
LIKE, IT'S PEOPLE, I MEAN, I
LOVE TUPAC, I LOVE BIGGIE BUT
THEY GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE OUT
THE TOP FIVE.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
>> Jemele: BECAUSE IT'S NEW SHIT
THAT WE'RE SEEING.
>> Meek Mill: BECAUSE JUST GOT
BETTER.
>> Jemele: PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN
BETTER.
IT'S LIKE WHAT IT IS.
>> Meek Mill: THEY GOT MORE
ACCOLADES.
>> Jemele: BUT I HATE PRESEASON
RANKINGS IN, IN COLLEGE
FOOTBALL.
HATE THEM.
>> Jemele: IN THE MEDIA WE KNOW
THERE'S NO WAY WE'VE SEEN ALL
THESE TEAMS AND IT PENALIZES THE
TEAMS THAT HAVE A GOOD OFF
SEASON, GET NEW RECRUITS AND
JUST BECAUSE OUR EXPECTATIONS
OUR LOWER THEY GET PENALIZED FOR
THAT, RIGHT.
>> Trae: I THINK THAT'S A GREAT
POINT.
LIKE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
FRUSTRATES ME IS LIKE I, WE GOT
A LOT OF FORMER PLAYERS AND
FORMER PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA AND I
WISH THEY UNDERSTOOD HOW MUCH
THEY MEANT TO US.
LIKE, WE, WE'RE JUST TAKING OUR
GAMES AND MAKING IT OUR STYLE
BUT ALSO STEALING FROM THEM.
AND SO IT'S OKAY IF THE NEXT
GENERATION IS BETTER THAN YOURS.
LIKE, I TOLD JEMELE I WAS
HONORED TO MEET HER BECAUSE I
THINK SHE WAS ONE OF THE REALIST
AS FAR AS IN THE MEDIA, LIKE
JUST KEPT IT REAL IN WHAT SHE
SAW AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THINGS
YOU GOT TO, YOU GOT TO TALK FOR,
FOR THE TV BUT THERE'S GUYS ON
TV TODAY THAT TALK ABOUT PLAYERS
AND IT'S LITERALLY JUST FOR
ATTENTION.
SO, I WISH FORMER PLAYERS AND,
AND GUYS UNDERSTOOD THAT.
AND IF THEY GET INTO THE MEDIA
BUSINESS THAT THEY THINK THAT
WAY AND THAT THEY UNDERSTAND
THAT THIS THINGS MAY CHANGE AND
THAT THE NEXT GENERATION COULD
BE BETTER BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS
BEFORE THEM.
>> Paul: SPEAK, SPEAKING OF
THAT, THIS IS FOR BOTH OF YOU,
FOR CHASE AND TRAE, WHEN YOU'RE
IN IT DO YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE
THERE'S A CHANGING OF THE GUARD.
DO YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE NOW WE'RE
READY TO COMPETE NOW AND THE
GUYS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MY IDOLS
NOW ARE RIVALS, LIKE DO YOU GUYS
FEEL THAT IN THE MOMENT.
>> Chase: OH YEAH.
LIKE, THIS YEAR I PLAYED
TRENT WILLIAMS.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOW TRENT,
THE BIG BAD YOU KNOW, BIG BAD
WOLF AND I GOT TO CHANCE TO PLAY
AGAINST HIM.
IT WAS, IT WAS CRAZY JUST, YOU
KNOW, I WAS OUT THERE HAVING FUN
FOR A, IT WAS JUST ANOTHER
FOOTBALL GAME.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M LIKE,
ALL RIGHT, FEEL LIKE THAT GAME
WAS THE BEST GAME OF MY CAREER.
I SCORED A TOUCHDOWN, HAD A
SACK, YOU KNOW, I DID MY THING
IN THAT GAME.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WAS A
REAL BIG GAME FOR ME.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S WHAT, HE GOT
ABOUT TEN YEARS, PLUS YEARS ON
ME.
AND UH, JUST LOOKING AT HIM FROM
YOU KNOW, MIDDLE SCHOOL TO HIGH
SCHOOL TO NOW PLAYING AGAINST
HIM IT'S, IT'S CRAZY.
>> Trae: FOR ME I HAD TO LEARN I
THINK MY GAME IN THE LEAGUE TOOK
OFF WHENEVER I, I STOPPED
LOOKING AT SOME OF MY IDOLS AS,
AS MUCH OF A FAN.
I REALLY JUST.
>> Maverick: WHO WAS YOU LOOKING
AT?
>> Trae: GUYS LIKE CP.
GUYS LIKE, RUSS, KD.
I GREW UP IN OKLAHOMA.
>> Maverick: YES, OKLAHOMA CITY,
OF COURSE.
>> Trae: I HAD SEASON TICKETS
FOR LIKE EIGHT YEARS.
LIKE.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Trae: THAT WAS, THE, I WENT
TO GAMES EARLY JUST TO SEE THE
ROAD PLAYERS COME IN, YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> Maverick: SO, WHEN YOU WOULD
GET IN THE COURT WITH THEM YOU
WOULD GIVE THEM LIKE A LITTLE
TOO MUCH RESPECT ALMOST.
>> Trae: YEAH.
LIKE, EARLY ON IN MY CAREER.
IT WAS LIKE, IT WAS MORE JUST
LIKE, OH, LIKE I'M REALLY OUT
HERE PLAYING AGAINST THE DUDES I
WATCHED AND IT WAS MORE JUST I
WAS GIVING TOO MUCH RESPECT, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, INSTEAD OF
REALLY ATTACKING THEM LIKE I'VE
BEEN PLAYING MY WHOLE LIFE AND
BEING, LIKE HAVING THAT MINDSET.
I MEAN, I WAS STILL BEING GOOD
BUT I WASN'T, I WASN'T --
>> Maverick: ATTACKING.
>> Trae: THE PERSON I AM, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, NOW.
>> DJ Khaled: YEAH, I THINK
THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
I MEAN, IT'S BEAUTIFUL TO BE
INSPIRED.
>> Maverick: KHALED.
>> DJ Khaled: THAT'S LIKE YOU
SAYING LIKE "YO, I MADE IT."
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> DJ Khaled: AND THEN ONCE YOU
GET OUT THAT MADE IT MODE IT'S
ON, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> Maverick: ABOUT TO BUST YOUR
ASS.
>> DJ Khaled: BUT THAT'S, BUT
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT BECAUSE
EVEN IN MUSIC YOU KNOW, I'M
LISTENING TO STORY AND I ALWAYS
SAID YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, I'M
A, I'M A BE GREAT LIKE A PUFF
DADDY OR A JAY Z OR, OR SOMEBODY
THAT'S CRAZY BECAUSE THESE ARE
MY FRIENDS.
AND PEOPLE I MAKE MUSIC WITH AND
DO BUSINESS WITH.
SO, I KNOW THE FEELING.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING AND THE
REASON WHY I'M SAYING THIS FOR
THE YOUNG WORLD TO HEAR THIS,
IT'S SO GREAT TO BE INSPIRED AND
BE MOTIVATED BUT IT'S ALSO OKAY
TO TELL SOMEBODY I'M INSPIRED BY
MAVERICK, I'M INSPIRED BY MEEK
MILL'S AND I THINK THAT WE NEED
TO DO THAT MORE BECAUSE THAT'S
GOING TO PUT MORE LOVE OUT THERE
AND SAY, YOU ALL I'M INSPIRED
AND MOTIVATED.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT TO BE A
GREAT PRODUCER OR A MUSIC
EXECUTIVE OR ANYTHING GREAT YOU
GOT TO PUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN
ONE ROOM.
SO, WHEN I COME IN I KNOW I'M
WORKING WITH MEEK.
I KNOW HE LIKE LOUD MUSIC, PUT
ALL THE SPEAKERS ON.
MATTER OF FACT GET SOME MORE
SPEAKERS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT
IT LIKE UM, AND YOU LISTEN TO
SOME OF THESE GREAT ALBUMS AND
YOU LOOK AT THE CREDITS YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE ALWAYS SEE THE
ARTIST OR MAYBE ONE OF THE
PRODUCERS BUT THERE'S ALSO
PROBABLY SEVEN TO 20 OTHER
NAMES.
>> Meek Mill: YEAH.
>> Maverick: YES, OF COURSE.
>> DJ Khaled: THAT ARE, THAT
MADE THAT CLASSIC THAT WE TALK
ABOUT, THAT ALBUM, YOU KNOW WHAT
I'M SAYING.
SO, IT'S IMPORTANT.
I THINK COLLABORATION IN EVERY
ASPECT, NOT JUST MUSIC AND
BASKETBALL, IN BUSINESS.
THE WAY I WORK IS I NEED THE
DREAM TEAM ALL THE TIME.
>> Maverick: YOU HAD THIS GREAT
♪ ♪
>> Maverick: YOU HAD THIS GREAT
ROOKIE YEAR, THE SEASON ABOUT TO
START, NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT
WHAT YOU DID LIKE, IT DOESN'T
EVEN MATTER NO MORE, LIKE.
>> Chase: I MEAN, I DON'T.
>> Maverick: YOU, YOU MOVED ON
ALREADY TOO.
>> Chase: I MOVED ON, YEAH.
>> Maverick: YOU MOVED ON.
YOU LIKE WHO CARES.
>> Chase: YEAH, I WANT, YOU
KNOW, THIS, I'M HUNGRY, YOU
KNOW.
LIKE, MEEK, YOU KNOW, EVERY, IF
YOU KNOW MEEK MILL, HE'S ALWAYS,
YOU, YOU KNOW, HE'S HUNGRY.
MEEK TOP TWO PEOPLE I LISTEN TO
BEFORE A GAME.
>> Meek Mill: I APPRECIATE IT.
>> Chase: REAL SHIT.
BECAUSE, NO, REAL SHIT, BECAUSE
HE BACK, I'M JUST LIKE YEAH.
I'M IN MY HEAD JUST GOING LIKE
YEAH.
I'M ABOUT TO STICK SOMEBODY.
>> Maverick: OBVIOUSLY DOING
SOMETHING GREAT ALL IT AFFORDS
YOU IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
SOMETHING, ANOTHER THING GREAT
ON A HIGHER LEVEL.
IT'S LIKE COLLEGE, RIGHT.
YOU WERE GREAT AT OKLAHOMA.
ALL THAT AFFORDED YOU WAS A
CHANCE TO BE GREAT IN THE NBA.
>> Jemele: BUT IN A WAY LIKE IF
WE THINK ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGY OF
SPORTS FANS NOW.
IT'S SO MUCH, EVERYBODY'S SO
CHAMPIONSHIP-FOCUSED THEY CAN'T
APPRECIATE SHIT, RIGHT.
AND THAT LIKE, AND I GET IT.
LIKE WHOEVER HAS ALL THE RINGS
LIKE I UNDERSTAND LIKE YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN SPACE IN
THE CONVERSATION.
BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WATCH
TRAE YOUNG AND JUST ENJOY HIM
FLAMING THE KNICKS.
AND LIKE NOT WORRY ABOUT THE
FACT THAT NO THEY DIDN'T MAKE
THE FINALS THIS YEAR BUT THAT
DOESN'T MAKE HOW HE PERFORMED IN
THE PLAYOFFS LESS SPECIAL OR
LESS YOU KNOW, MONUMENTAL.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY YOUR
ROOKIE YEAR AND BE LIKE, MAN
THAT WAS GREAT, HE MIGHT BE THE
NEXT LAWRENCE TAYLOR, WHO KNOWS,
RIGHT.
SO, I THINK THERE IS A WEIRD WAY
WE LOOK AT GREATNESS AND WE'RE
NOT ABLE TO APPRECIATE IN THE
MOMENT AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT'S
ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T REALLY
MISS ABOUT BEING AT ESPN.
>> Maverick: TAKE, TAKE US INTO
THOSE ROOMS BY THE WAY.
I ALWAYS WONDER HOW DOES IT GO,
IS IT LITERALLY YOU HAVE TO.
>> Jemele: NOW EVERY SHOW IS
DIFFERENT.
LIKE, I, AND I KNOW THERE'S A
LOT OF TIMES WHERE, ESPECIALLY
ATHLETES WATCH AND THEY THINK
THAT LIKE ALL YOU ALL JUST BE
MAKING SHIT UP.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jemele: AND IT'S LIKE --
>> Chase: GOT TO BE.
>> Jemele: WE, LIKE WE JUST COME
IN THERE AND WE BE LIKE YEAH I
WATCHED THE GAME AND I THOUGHT
YOU KNOW, TRAE YOUNG HE COULD,
HE, HIS DEFENSE WAS SHITTY.
OH, LET'S BUILD A TOPIC ABOUT
THAT.
IS TRAE YOUNG'S DEFENSE COSTING
THE THE ATLANTA HAWKS?
THAT'S HOW THAT BECOMES THAT,
RIGHT?
>> Chase: THEY'RE THAT FAST.
>> Jemele: YOU ALL MAY THINK
THAT SOME OF US IN THE MEDIA
LIKE OH THEY JUST OUT TO RUIN
THEY CAREERS.
I WISH THAT, I WISH TO GOD WE
THOUGHT ABOUT IT THAT MUCH.
[LAUGHS]
BUT WE DON'T.
WE COME IN THERE WITH A FEELING.
YOU GOT 60 MINUTES TO FEEL.
YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO, YOU'RE
BASICALLY TRYING TO BRING THE
BARBERSHOP ARGUMENT, THE BAR
ARGUMENT INTO TELEVISION.
>> Paul: BUT JEMELE, LET ME, LET
ME ASK YOU, YOU BEING OF THE
CULTURE, YOU REPRESENTING THE
CULTURE, YOU REPRESENTING A LOT
OF WHAT'S IN THIS ROOM BUT ALSO
BEING A JOURNALIST, IS THAT
EVERY IN CONFLICT FOR YOU IN
YOUR CAREER.
>> Jemele: OH, IT'S ALWAYS IN
CONFLICT.
WHEN I FIRST BECAME A SPORTS
COLUMNIST I WAS AT THE ORLANDO
SENTINEL.
AND I WAS THE ONLY BLACK FEMALE
SPORTS COLUMNIST AT A DAILY
NEWSPAPER IN NORTH AMERICA.
NOW, I CAN WRITE PRETTY WELL.
I GOT AN OPINION OR TWO
THAT'S SAUCY.
I AIN'T THAT DAMN SMART, OKAY.
WHY I WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE.
SO YOU HAVE THIS CONSTANT
CONFLICT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
BEING COVERED.
THERE'S NOT A REFLECTION OR
REPRESENTATION OF THAT BY THE
PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THEM
FORMING THEIR NARRATIVES.
ALLOWING PEOPLE TO DECIDE
WHETHER OR NOT THESE PLAYERS
WORTH, YOU KNOW.
IT'S CRAZY AS HELL TO ME THAT IN
THE NBA IT'S THE MEDIA THAT
DECIDES THE ALL NBA TEAMS THAT'S
DIRECTLY TIED TO YOUR MONEY.
IF I'M SUPPOSED TO BE AN
OBJECTIVE JOURNALIST HOW IS IT
THAT SOME OPINION I HAVE, IT
MIGHT BE BASED OFF THE FACT THAT
ONE TIME I ASKED TRAE YOUNG FOR
AN INTERVIEW AND HE SAID NO I'M
NOT IN THE MOOD.
AND THEY MIGHT HOLD THAT AGAINST
HIM THE REST OF HIS CAREER AND
IT'S PEOPLE IN OUR BUSINESS THAT
THEY DO THAT.
SO, WHEN YOU TIE IT TO PEOPLE'S
MONEY IT JUST FUCKS THE WHOLE
GAME UP BECAUSE HOW, AS A
JOURNALIST THAT'S NOT MY ROLE.
>> Paul: KHALED, I REMEMBER WHEN
YOU CAME IN THE GAME IT WAS LIKE
ABOUT GETTING A MILLION AND NOW
YOU'RE LIKE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE
BILLION, RIGHT.
>> DJ Khaled: YEAH.
>> Paul: LET'S TALK ABOUT LIKE
JUST GOALS CHANGING AND WHAT'S
THAT LIKE FOR YOU.
>> DJ Khaled: YOU KNOW WHEN I
WAS A KID ALWAYS KNEW I WAS
GOING TO BE A FATHER.
SO, I KNEW I HAD TO WORK NOW AND
WHEN I BECAME A FATHER I KNEW I
HAD TO BE EVEN MORE GREATER.
SO, I WAS LIKE, I WAS HUSTLING
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WANTING YOU
KNOW, TAKING MY, MY CAREER TO
'S
THE NEXT LEVEL.
BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT IN MY MIND,
LIKE, YO, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY.
I ALWAYS SAID WHEN I MAKE MY
FIRST MILLION I'M GOOD.
AND WHEN I FIRST GOT MY FIRST
MILLION I'M LIKE, DAMN.
>> Jemele: AND YOU REALIZE IT'S
NOT ENOUGH.
>> DJ Khaled: NO.
[LAUGHTER]
>> DJ Khaled: IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
IT'S LIKE.
>> Meek Mill: 500 OUT OF --
>> DJ Khaled: YOU KNOW.
>> Jemele: IT'S NOT WHAT YOU
THINK IT IS.
>> DJ Khaled: I REMEMBER GETTING
MY FIRST MILLION.
MY, MY TOUR BUS COST ME ABOUT
$20,000 TO GET THERE.
[LAUGHTER]
BECAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T FLY
THAT TIME.
>> Meek Mill: YOU WEREN'T
FLYING, THAT'S RIGHT.
>> DJ Khaled: THEN I HAD TO GET
20 ROOMS FOR ALL MY GUYS, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> Maverick: [LAUGHS]
>> DJ Khaled: AND YOU KNOW, I
LOVE ROOM SERVICE.
NOW, I HAVE A ALTER EGO.
HIS NAME IS BILLY.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING.
SO, AND BILLY, I CAN'T CONTROL
BILLY.
SOMETIMES BILLY WILL POP OUT AND
I JUST CAN'T CONTROL HIM.
AND BILLY YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING, IS ABOUT TO BE A
BILLIONAIRE BUT AGAIN, I DON'T
WAN TO MAKE IT LIKE IT'S ABOUT
MONEY.
BUT IT'S ABOUT THE RICHES OF
LIFE.
IT'S ABOUT THE FREEDOM.
IT'S ABOUT DOING ANYTHING YOU
WANT TO DO FOR YOUR KIDS, FOR
YOU FAMILY, FOR YOUR FRIENDS,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, HOW
CAN WE DO MORE TO BLESS OTHERS
BECAUSE THE MORE BLESSES YOU
GIVE THE MORE BLESSES YOU GET
BACK.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST
MONEY.
>> Paul: AND LIVE THAT, YOU
REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
>> DJ Khaled: OH YEAH.
>> Paul: YOU BELIEVE BLESSES.
>> DJ Khaled: I BELIEVE IN, UM,
AND MEEK WILL TELL YOU KNOW WHAT
I'M SAYING, WHEN HE WAS DOWN YOU
KNOW, WHEN HE WAS ON THE
VACATION, LOCKED UP, YOU KNOW,
HE'LL TELL YOU, I'LL BE LIKE, YO
WE BLESS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING, YOU KNOW.
WE GOT LIFE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING.
WHEN YOU HAVE LIFE YOU CAN MAKE
MISTAKES IN LIFE BUT YOU GOT
LIFE THAT MEANS YOU CAN FIX IT.
MEEK MILL IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
YOU CAN GET UP.
>> Maverick: YES, OF COURSE.
>> DJ Khaled: AND STILL MAKE IT.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> DJ Khaled: YOU KNOW, THE
YOUNG WORLD NEED TO KNOW THAT
BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY SOME
PEOPLE ARE BORN WHERE THEY SET
UP THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE TO
FALL.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> DJ Khaled: AND IT GOES BACK
TO MAKING THE FIRST MILLION, YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
IT, IT, WE ALL WANT THAT BUT
WHAT I LEARN AND I LEARN FROM
THE OTHER GREATS, YOU DON'T
CHASE THE MONEY, YOU KNOW WHAT
I'M SAYING.
THE MONEY GOING TO CHASE YOU.
>> Maverick: SURE.
>> DJ Khaled: ALL YOU GOT TO DO
IS JUST BE GREAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
I WANT THE YOUNG WORLD TO, TO,
TO HEAR THAT AND KNOW THAT
BECAUSE I WAS THAT YOUNG KID
WANTING THAT BAG AND THIS AND
THAT AND THAT AND THAT.
AND I'M STILL GOT THAT HUSTLE
MENTALITY I MEAN, FOREVER.
THANK GOD FOR THE BROWN PAPER
BAG.
[LAUGHTER]
I LOVE IT.
>> Maverick: YOU LOVE IT STILL
KHALED, YOU LOVE IT.
>> DJ Khaled: I'M A FORCE.
BUT I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT'S
GOING TO COME BY JUST BEING
GREAT.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE.
>> DJ Khaled: AND YOU'RE BORN
GREAT.
SO, DON'T BLAME IT ON SOMEBODY
ELSE AND COMPLAIN BECAUSE THAT'S
GOING TO SET YOU BACK, YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING.
ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE SOLUTION IN
LIFE AND I PROMISE YOU ALL THEM
BLESSINGS WILL COME AND THAT'S
WHY I HAVE THE ALTER EGO, HIS
NAME IS BILLY.
>> Maverick: BILLY.
[LAUGHS]
>> DJ Khaled: BECAUSE I'M
ALREADY SPEAKING IN EXISTENCE.
>> Paul: AND KHALED, YOU SAID
YOU CAN'T CONTROL BILLY.
>> DJ Khaled: I CAN'T CONTROL
BILLY.
[LAUGHTER]
AND I TELL PEOPLE THAT OUT,
RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
THEM TO THINK LIKE, YO THAT'S
BILLY.
>> Jemele: THAT'S NOT ME.
>> DJ Khaled: AND THERE'S KHALED
KHALED.
[LAUGHTER]
AND BILLY WALKING UP, OH THIS
WHOLE OUT, LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT
I'M SAYING.
YOU CAN'T CONTROL HIM.
THAT'S JUST THE, THE
INSPIRATION.
I'M A GO GETTER.
>> Maverick: YES.
>> DJ Khaled: I'M A HUSTLER, YOU
UNDERSTAND.
>> Maverick: THAT'S WHAT I LOVE
ABOUT KHALED.
>> DJ Khaled: YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN.
>> Maverick: BUT WHAT HE WAS
TALKING ABOUT WITH THE YOUNG
WORLD JUST BEING GREAT AND DOING
THEIR THING AND THE MONEY WILL
FOLLOW.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
THAT AS NOW LIKE COLLEGE
ATHLETES, LIKE YOU PLAYED AT THE
HIGHEST LEVEL OF COLLEGE
FOOTBALL.
>> Chase: IN COLLEGE IT, IT MAY
HAVE, WE HAD MORE FANS THEN A
LOT OF THE --
[LAUGHTER]
>> Chase: AND, AND IT.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE, IT'S
OHIO STATE, YEAH.
>> Chase: YOU KNOW, I GOT
SUSPENDED IN COLLEGE AND I, I
KNOW WHEN I CAME BACK MY PENN
STATE GAME HAD LIKE FOUR SACKS,
YOU KNOW.
I WENT OFF.
AND YOU KNOW, I WAS RUNNING OFF
THE FIELD AND ALL YOU HEAR IS
COWBELLS AND EVERYBODY ON THEIR
FEET JUST CHANTING YOUR NAME.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S CRAZY, UM.
AND I FEEL LIKE UH, IT MADE ME A
BETTER EXPERIENCE IN COLLEGE
THEN MAYBE THE LEAGUE, UM.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR
WITH THE PANDEMIC.
>> Paul: OF COURSE.
>> Chase: I DIDN'T GET TO PLAY
WITH FANS.
>> Maverick: FANS, THAT'S --
SO YOU MUST BE LOOKING FORWARD
TO THAT.
>> Chase: OH YEAH.
>> Paul: BUT, BUT CHASE, CHASE
WHEN YOU WERE IN IT DO YOU GUYS
REALIZE IT'S A BUSINESS.
LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING.
>> Chase: NO.
>> Paul: COLLEGE YOU REALIZE.
>> Jemele: YOU DON'T.
>> Paul: YOU DON'T REALIZE IT'S
A BUSINESS.
>> Chase: NO, BUT NOT AT THAT
TIME.
I HAVE FIRST ROUND IS NICK BOSA
IN FRONT OF ME.
TYQUA LEWIS, SECOND ROUND.
SO YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WORKING.
SO.
>> Maverick: THAT'S HOW OHIO
STATE WORKS BY THE WAY.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: FIRST ROUND IS NON
STOP.
>> Chase: SO, IT'S LIKE IF, IF I
DON'T, IF I DON'T, IF I'M
WORRIED ABOUT THAT I'M NOT EVEN
GOING TO MAKE IT THERE.
>> Paul: YOU MIGHT MISS YOUR
TURN.
>> Chase: I MIGHT MISS MY TURN.
>> Paul: YEAH.
>> Chase: SO, LIKE YOU KNOW,
I'M, I'M COMPETING WITH MYSELF.
AND ONE OF MY MOTTO'S IS BE AT,
I'M A BE AT WHERE MY FEET AT.
STRAIGHT UP.
>> Maverick: THAT'S A GREAT ONE.
>> Chase: SO, I'M, I'M NOT
WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PAST.
LET ME DO THIS DRILL 100 PERCENT
PERFECTLY.
SO, THEN THE NEXT TIME I DO IT
IT'S EASIER, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING.
NOW, THAT YOU KNOW, THEY GET
PAID.
I LOVE IT.
BUT I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO TAKE
AWAY THAT DRIVE, YOU KNOW THAT
PASSION FOR THE GAME IN COLLEGE.
>> Maverick: YEP.
YOU LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF
PLAYING IN COLLEGE.
>> Chase: I LOVED EVERY MINUTE.
AND IF I GOT PAID, WHICH I
PROBABLY COULD'VE GOT PAID YOU
KNOW, JUST GETTING MONEY.
>> Maverick: YOU MIGHT'VE LOST
THE DRIVE THOUGH.
>> Chase: I MIGHT'VE LOST
SOMETHING.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Chase: I COULD'VE LOST
SOMETHING BECAUSE I COULD'VE
WENT TO THE STORE AND GOT A
ROLLIE.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Paul: THAT SOMETHING MAY HAVE
JUST BEEN THE HUNGER AND THE
DRIVE EVERYDAY.
>> Chase: EVERYDAY.
>> Maverick: THAT'S AN
INTERESTING WAY TO PUT IT.
>> Chase: YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING.
>> Paul: I GOT YOU.
>> Chase: BUT I WANT US TO GET
PAID BUT I DO WANT COLLEGE
ATHLETES NOT TO LOSE THEIR
DRIVE.
>> Jemele: OR THE SHAME OF IT IS
THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE
ANYTHING.
RIGHT.
>> Chase: OKAY.
>> Jemele: LIKE THE FACT THAT
YOU COULD WIND UP BEING
SUSPENDED FOR WHAT YOU WERE
SUSPENDED FOR OR SOMEBODY JUST
BUY YOU A MEAL AND THEN ALL OF A
SUDDEN THEY IN TROUBLE.
AND ULTIMATELY THIS NCAA MODEL
IS GOING TO FAIL.
FOR THEIR ARGUMENT TO BE THAT
PEOPLE ENJOY IT MORE BECAUSE WE
KNOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID WAS
ALWAYS WHACK.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Jemele: NO, I, I DON'T
REALLY, THAT, THAT HAS NOTHING
TO DO WITH MY ENJOYMENT.
BUT THERE'S NO WAY YOU SHOULD
HAVE COACHES MAKING EIGHT, NINE,
TEN MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OFF
YOUR BACK.
>> Trae: AND WE MAKE $600 A
MONTH.
>> Jemele: AND YOU GET NOTHING
OUT OF IT.
>> Chase: IT'S NOT EVEN COMMON
SENSE.
>> Maverick: AND AT.
>> Trae: $600 DOLLARS A MONTH
YOU GOT TO PAY, YOU GOT TO PAY
RENT, YOU GOT TO DO ALL THIS
OTHER STUFF.
>> Jemele: YEAH.
>> Trae: YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GO
TO THE MOVIES WITH YOUR GIRL IN
COLLEGE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING.
>> Jemele: THE SCHOLARSHIP
DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T COVER IT.
>> Maverick: YOU START OFF DOING
IT BECAUSE YOU JUST LOVE IT.
YOU WANT TO HOOP, YOU WANT TO
PLAY FOOTBALL, YOU WANT TO RAP,
YOU WANT TO MAKE MUSIC, YOU WANT
TO WRITE THE BEST STORIES, HOW
DO YOU NOT LET THAT, THE
BUSINESS SIDE DISTRACT YOU
BECAUSE IT COULD BECOME ALL
ENCOMPASSING, RIGHT.
>> Trae: I MEAN, FOR ME I'VE
ALWAYS, SINCE I WAS IN EIGHTH
GRADE I'VE, TO BE HONEST,
TREATED THIS LIKE A BUSINESS
SINCE THEN.
LIKE I, THERE WAS A LOT OF
NIGHTS IN HIGH SCHOOL WHERE I
DIDN'T GO TO, I DIDN'T GET TO GO
TO PARTIES.
LIKE, I DIDN'T, ALL THEM
SLEEPOVERS AT FRIENDS AND ALL
THAT STUFF AND IT WASN'T JUST MY
DAD'S THING, IT WAS ME TOO.
LIKE, IT WAS SOMETHING I
DEDICATED MY LIFE TOO.
AND THEN ONCE I GOT HERE I KNEW
MY, MY IMPACT IS, IS WHAT'S THE
BIGGEST THING FOR ME.
LIKE, I'M NOT LEBRON.
LIKE, I'M NOT SIX EIGHT, 260.
LIKE, I'M A REGULAR AVERAGE TYPE
GUY, LIKE.
I'M A ROLE MODEL TO A LOT OF
THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE I'M MORE
LOOKED AT AS AN AVERAGE PERSON,
AVERAGE GUY.
>> Jemele: DO YOU THINK YOU NEED
STRUGGLE TO MAKE YOU THOUGH.
LIKE, TO ME MONEY JUST MAKES YOU
MORE OF WHAT YOU ARE, RIGHT.
LIKE, I, I THINK EVEN IF YOU GOT
PAID AT OHIO STATE.
LET'S SAY THE NIL RULES EXISTED
WHEN YOU WERE THERE I THINK
YOU'D STILL BE GREAT.
>> Chase: BUT MAYBE NOT MY
TEAMMATE THAT IS NOT AS MATURE
AS I AM.
IT COULD, IT COULD YOU KNOW, IT
COULD MAKE HIM GO THIS WAY WHEN
HE SHOULD'VE WENT THIS WAY, YOU
KNOW.
I KNOW THAT.
AND AS MUCH AS I WOULD TELL HIM
MAYBE NOT TO DO THIS, THIS OR
THAT HE GOING TO DO WHAT HE WANT
TO DO.
TRAE WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT
REGARDLESS.
BECAUSE WE, WE LOVE THE GAME.
YOU KNOW, LEBRON, HE LOVES THE
GAME.
AND IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER THE
MONEY IS COOL BUT I PLAY BECAUSE
I LOVE THE GAME OF FOOTBALL, YOU
FEEL WHAT I'M SAYING, SO.
EVERYBODY NOT LIKE THAT.
>> Jemele: YOU KNOW, WHEN I
GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE THE
AVERAGE SALARY FOR A JOURNALIST
WAS $19,000 A YEAR.
SO, WE CAME IN WITH THE
EXPECTATION WE WERE SUPPOSED TO
BE BROKE AND IN THIS FOR A NOBLE
REASON.
BUT WHEN I BECAME A BETTER
BUSINESSWOMAN I BECAME A BETTER
JOURNALIST.
AND THAT HAPPENED WHEN I GOT TO
ESPN.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN MATT LAUER
GOT A NEW CONTRACT.
THEY WAS PAYING THIS CAT 25
MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND I
THINK IT SAID HE HAD FRIDAYS
OFF.
WHEN I SAW THAT SHIT I WAS LIKE
OH I'M CLEARLY DOING THIS WRONG.
RIGHT BECAUSE
SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE
ECONOMIC FINANCIAL DECISIONS.
IT WAS NO DIFFERENT THEN WHAT I
WAS WRITING VERSUS WHAT I WAS
SAYING ON TV.
IT WAS JUST SHORTER AND YOU GOT
PAID A WHOLE LOT MORE.
AND YOU CREATED LEVERAGE.
I COULDN'T CREATE LEVERAGE AS A
WRITER.
I COULD CREATE IT BEING ON
TELEVISION.
AND SO I TELL YOUNG JOURNALISTS
COMING UP DON'T BE AFRAID TO
MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION AT ALL
BECAUSE YOU'LL GET A
PROFESSION MAY MANIPULATE YOU.
AND GET YOU TO THINKING THAT OH
I NEED TO BE IN THIS FOR THIS
MEANWHILE THEY MAKING ALL THE
MONEY OFF YOUR BACK.
>> Meek Mill: WHEN THEY TOLD ME
SOMEBODY ELSE WAS GOING TO
HANDLE MY MONEY I'M LIKE, YO
THIS IS A REAL BUSINESS RIGHT
HERE, WHERE MY MONEY GO.
[LAUGHTER]
BECAUSE I GREW UP IN SURVIVAL.
I WAS WORKING A GLOCK.
I'M TRYING TO STAY ALIVE.
I'M FUCKING IN AND OUT OF
SCHOOL.
MY HOUSEHOLD IS NOT TOGETHER THE
RIGHT WAY.
THAT COULD BE THE STRUGGLE THAT
GIVE YOU MORE MOTIVATION TO GO
HARD IS TO GET THE MONEY.
LIKE, I WAS TALKING TO KHALED,
HE SAID HE WAS JUST LISTENING TO
HIS OLD CD.
ME, I LISTEN TO MY OLD CD'S TOO.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE MOVE MY
SISTER OUT THE HOOD, GET MY MOM
OUT THE JET.
THE WAY I SAID IT, MY, MY
AGGRESSION, HOW I FELT WHEN I
SAID IT AND WHEN I HEAR THAT I'M
LIKE DAMN I REALLY WANTED TO GET
MY MOM, MY SISTER OUT OF
PROJECTS THAT BAD.
IT WAS PROBABLY 2003.
BUT I COULD STILL TAKE THAT
FEELING AND GO BACK TO THE
STUDIO AND REMEMBER HOW HUNGRY I
WAS BACK THEN KIND OF.
>> DJ Khaled: YOU KNOW, I LOOK
AT THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT YOU
KNOW, THE, THE PRESENT NOW AND
THE FUTURE AND THE PAST MY WHOLE
THING IS THAT I JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE THE KIDS ARE ALWAYS
GOING TO BE GREAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEAR YOUR STORY
AND I HEAR YOUR STORY AND I HEAR
MEEK'S STORY I KNOW MY STORY, I
KNOW YOU ALL'S STORY AND I HEAR
ALL THIS, I'M LIKE BUGGING OUT.
I'LL KEEP FORGETTING I'M LIKE,
I'M IN "THE SHOP."
[LAUGHTER]
AND I WATCH "THE SHOP."
BUT THEN I'M LIKE, OH, GET MY
SHIRT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT SHOW
THAT, THAT PEOPLE GET KNOWLEDGE
FROM AND, AND MESSAGES AND
INSPIRATION AND MOTIVATION.
THIS SPECIAL BECAUSE YOU KNOW,
NOBODY IN HERE IS TEARING NOBODY
DOWN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND, AND.
>> Maverick: AND WE CAN DISAGREE
ON TOPICS TOO.
>> DJ Khaled: YOU CAN DISAGREE
ALL YOU WANT.
>> Paul: THAT'S COOL TOO.
>> Maverick: BUT NOBODY, IT'S
COOL TOO.
>> DJ Khaled: EVERYBODY GOT A
DIFFERENT STORY AND IF ANYTHING
YOU GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING.
EVERYBODY'S TALKING ALL THEIR
GREATNESS BUT ALSO TALKING ABOUT
REAL SITUATIONS AND I JUST WANT
TO REMIND PEOPLE IT'S OKAY TO
SHOW.
>> Maverick: THANK YOU KHALED.
>> DJ Khaled: LOVE.
THAT'S IT.
AND I LOVE THIS.
I LOVE IT.
♪ WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
♪ NIGGA, WE GON' BE ALRIGHT ♪
>> Maverick: CAN SOMEBODY TELL
HIM TO GET KHALED ANOTHER
SPRITZER PLEASE.
[LAUGHTER]
>> DJ Khaled: OH YEAH, PLEASE,
I'M SORRY.
>> Maverick: PLEASE GET KHALED
ANOTHER.
>> Meek Mill: IMMEDIATELY.
>> DJ Khaled: I ZONED OUT BUT
THAT'S THE TRUTH.
THAT CAN BE THE HEADLINE.
>> Jemele: THANK YOU.
>> Maverick: SOMEBODY HELP US.
THINK HE'S WALKING AROUND
DRINKING SPRITZERS.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Paul: YOU'RE GOOD, YOU CAN DO
THAT HERE.
[LAUGHTER]
♪ UH, AND WHEN I WAKE UP ♪
♪ I RECOGNIZE YOU'RE LOOKING AT
ME FOR THE PAY CUT ♪
♪ BUT HOMICIDE BE LOOKING AT YOU
FROM THE FACE DOWN ♪
♪ WHAT MAC-11 EVEN BOOM WITH THE
BASS DOWN? ♪
♪ SCHEMIN', AND LET ME TELL YOU
'BOUT MY LIFE ♪
♪ PAINKILLERS ONLY PUT ME IN THE
TWILIGHT ♪
♪ NOW TELL MY MOMMA I LOVE HER,
BUT THIS WHAT I LIKE, LORD
KNOWS ♪
♪ TWENTY OF 'EM IN MY CHEVY,
TELL 'EM ALL TO COME AND GET
ME ♪
♪ REAPING EVERYTHING I SOW, SO
MY KARMA COMING HEAVY ♪
♪ NO PRELIMINARY HEARINGS ON MY
RECORD ♪
♪ I'M A MOTHERFUCKING GANGSTER
IN SILENCE FOR THE RECORD, UH ♪
♪ TELL THE WORLD I KNOW IT'S TOO
LATE ♪
♪ BOYS AND GIRLS, I THINK I'VE
GONE CRAY ♪
♪ DROWN INSIDE MY VICES ALL
DAY ♪
♪ WON'T YOU PLEASE BELIEVE WHEN