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>> THE FOLLOWING IS A

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PRESENTATION OF HBO SPORTS.

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>> THERE WAS A STORY IN FREE

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AGENCY.

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ONE OF THE TEAMS, THEY WERE

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INTERESTED, THEN ALL OF THE

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SUDDEN THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED

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AT THE VERY END.

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I WAS SITTING THERE THINKING,

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YOU'RE STICKING WITH THAT

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MOTHERFUCKER?

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[LAUGHTER]

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>> TOM PROBABLY HAD NO DESIRE TO

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GO TO THAT TEAM, BUT NOW IT'S

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LIKE, WHY DON'T YOU WANT ME?

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>> YEAH, FOR SURE.

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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YEAH, WHEN I LOOK BACK I'M LIKE,

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THERE'S NO FUCKING WAY I

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WOULD'VE WENT TO THAT TEAM.

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[LAUGHTER]

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>> BUT THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T

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WANT ME, AND I KNOW WHAT THAT

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MEANS, I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS

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LIKE, AND I'M GOING TO FUCK YOU

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UP BECAUSE OF THAT.

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>> TOM, YOU KEEP WINNING,

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FUCKING --

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>> FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER

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AND --

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>> THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

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NOT FOREVER AND EVER, NO.

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>> IT WAS ALREADY HAPPENING.

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>> COMING TO THE END.

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>> THIS IS SEASON 21, RIGHT?

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>> 22.

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>> WOW.

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>> I GOT TO TELL YOU, YOU DON'T

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LOOK LIKE IT'S COMING TO AN END

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AT ALL.

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>> YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF IT, FOR

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ME, IS ABOUT YOU KNOW HAVING

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PERSPECTIVE.

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AFTER A WHILE YOU GO, HOLY SHIT,

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LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW?

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AND THERE WAS TIMES WHERE I

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WAS YOUNG AND REALLY ENJOYED THE

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MOMENT OF SPORTS AND THEN

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THOUGHT AFTER WE WON OUR THIRD

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SUPER BOWL, I WAS REALLY YOUNG,

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25, I WAS LIKE, I MADE SOME

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COMMENT LIKE, MAN, MAYBE THERE'S

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MORE TO THE MORE TO LIFE THAN

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THIS.

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AND THEN WE DIDN'T WIN A SUPER

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BOWL FOR TEN YEARS AND I WAS

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LIKE, FUCK, MAN.

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THIS IS REALLY HARD.

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[LAUGHTER]

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>> AND LIKE THE NEXT TIME WE WON

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THE SUPER BOWL WAS LIKE THE MOST

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AMAZING EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE

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BECAUSE I HAD PERSPECTIVE OF NOT

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DOING WELL AND THEN, YOU KNOW,

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TAKING IT FOR GRANTED WHEN IT

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DID GO WELL AND THEN REALIZING

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AT THIS MOMENT OH MY GOD, THAT

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WAS LIKE IMPOSSIBLE.

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>> YOU HAD A LOT OF FUN DURING

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THE PARADE.

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I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER

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>> WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE FOR

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YOU LIKE, JUST CELEBRATING THAT?

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>> IT WAS FUN, YOU KNOW.

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I HAD BEEN IN THE NORTHEAST FOR

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20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S LIKE

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FREEZING COLD.

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EVERY TIME WE WON IT WAS LIKE 38

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AND YOU KNOW YOU WERE FREEZING.

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BY THE END OF THE PARADE YOU

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WERE LIKE GET ME HOME, YOU KNOW.

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THIS, WE'RE OUT ON A BOAT, IT'S

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85 DEGREES, WE'RE DRINKING

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TEQUILA ALL DAY, AND I

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GOT THE SUPER BOWL TROPHY IN MY

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HAND, I'M IN MY BOAT, CHELSEA'S

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WHERE THE OTHER BOAT IS, AND I'M

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LIKE, I'M GOING TO THROW IT TO

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MY BOYS OVER THERE.

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SO I THROW IT.

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AND THE BOTTOM OF THIS TROPHY IS

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SHARP.

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>> OH, EXACTLY.

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>> I MEAN IT COULD'VE GONE SO

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BAD.

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>> THE BEST PART IS YOU HEAR

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EVERYONE ON TOM'S BOAT SAYING NO

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NO, NO, TOM, NO, NO, NO.

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IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, NO.

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AND TOM'S LIKE I GOT IT, I GOT

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IT, LIKE ONE, TWO.

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>> I KNOW.

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THAT WAS MY DAUGHTER.

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SO SHE'S EIGHT YEARS OLD AT THE

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TIME, AND SHE GOES DADDY, DADDY,

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NO, NO, NO!

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>> DRAY, YOU'VE WON THREE

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TITLES, AND YOU'VE OPENLY TALKED

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ABOUT THE LAST TWO.

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YOU WEREN'T REALLY HAVING THAT

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MUCH FUN.

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SO HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS?

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>> FIRST OFF, AFTER GOING

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THROUGH LOSING YOU REALIZE WHEN

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YOU WEREN'T HAVING FUN WINNING

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IT WAS WAY MORE FUN THAN LOSING.

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BUT DURING THAT TIME WHERE WE'RE

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WINNING AND IT'S ROLLING,

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IT'S ROLLING AND FIVE YEARS IN A

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ROW YOU GET TO THOSE YEARS WHERE

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IT'S LIKE, THIS SHIT IS A GRIND.

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YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERY TIME YOU

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STEP ON THE COURT IT'S NO LONGER

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ABOUT HAVING FUN OR GETTING

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BETTER, IT'S JUST NOW ABOUT

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WINNING THAT GAME.

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YOU STARTED PLAYING BECAUSE IT

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WAS FUN.

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>> TO HAVE A GOOD TIME, RIGHT?

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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AND THEN YOU YOU GET TO THIS

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PINNACLE AND IT'S NO LONGER FUN.

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>> I REMEMBER CERTAIN TIMES IN

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MY CAREER, I REMEMBER PERFORMING

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AT RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, I HAD

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LIKE FOUR NIGHTS SOLD OUT IN A

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ROW, TWO SHOWS SATURDAY, TWO

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SHOWS SUNDAY, AND I DON'T

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REMEMBER ANY OF IT.

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>> WOW.

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>> BECAUSE IT WAS JUST LIKE

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THAT, YOU KNOW.

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AND LIKE THAT'S THE PINNACLE OF

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MANY PEOPLE'S CAREERS.

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SO FOR ME TO KIND OF MISS THAT

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MOMENT, THAT WAS A BIG LIGHT

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BULB TO SLOW THE FUCK DOWN

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AND ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT

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YOU'RE DOING.

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YOU WANTED TO BE A BIG FAMOUS

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COMEDIENNE.

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AND NOW YOU'RE HERE, PAY

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ATTENTION, BE PRESENT IN THE

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MOMENT.

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>> CUDI, YOU SEEM TO JUST BEEN

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LIKE AT SOME POINT LIKE FUCK IT,

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I'M GOING TO BE ME.

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WAS THERE A MOMENT OR A TIME

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WHEN YOU'RE LIKE I'M GOING TO

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HAVE FUN AND BE ME AND I DON'T

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CARE?

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>> WELL, I THINK AT THE TIME,

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YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST THINKING

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ABOUT HOW CAN I STAND OUT IN THE

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WORLD OF HIP HOP AS IT IS, AT

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THAT TIME IN 2006, 2007, RIGHT.

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THAT'S WHEN I STARTED EXPLORING

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A LITTLE BIT MORE AND DIVING

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DEEP INTO THINGS I WAS FEELING,

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THINGS I WAS HOLDING DEEP DOWN

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INSIDE SINCE I WAS A KID.

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SIMPLY BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THAT

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WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

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I FELT LIKE THAT'S WHAT AN

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ARTIST IS SUPPOSED TO DO.

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YOU KNOW, THROW THEIR LIFE

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INTO THE MUSIC, YOU KNOW, AND

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TELL THEIR STORY.

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>> YEP.

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AND WHEN DO YOU DO YOUR BEST

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WRITING?

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IS IT LIKE, BY YOURSELF?

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>> YEAH, IT'S CHANGED OVER THE

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LIKE, WHEN I FIRST STARTED

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OUT I WOULD KIND OF LIKE SIT

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THERE AND LIKE REALLY WRITE MY

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RHYMES, LISTENING TO THE BEAT

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OVER AND OVER FOR FOR HOURS AND

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SIT THERE AND WRITE.

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BUT AS TIME WENT ON, I KIND OF

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ADOPTED THIS TECHNIQUE THAT

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KANYE USED WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF

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GOING AND FREESTYLING RAMBLING,

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THERE'S NO WORDS, AND IT DOESN'T

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MAKE ANY SENSE.

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>> MUMBLE, YEAH, YEAH.

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>> YEAH, YOU JUST MUMBLE ALL THE

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SHIT OUT.

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BUT THEN YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN

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TO IT AND THEN YOU FIND THE

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WORDS IN THE THE MADNESS.

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I DO LIKE TO HAVE AS

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LITTLE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE

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ROOM AS POSSIBLE.

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YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HAVE LIKE A

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ROOM WITH LIKE 30 MOTHERFUCKERS.

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>> LIKE A LOT OF RAPPERS DO.

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>> LIKE, YEAH, I GO TO SESSIONS,

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BRO, I GO TO SESSIONS AND THERE

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WILL BE LIKE 30 MOTHERFUCKERS IN

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THERE AND I'LL BE LIKE MAN THIS

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IS -- AND THIS IS DURING COVID.

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[LAUGHTER]

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>> I'M LIKE, I'M LIKE OH MAN,

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THIS SOME BULLSHIT.

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WOW.

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>> I CAN'T WORK LIKE THIS.

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>> YEAH, I CAN'T DO THIS, MAN.

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I CAN'T DO THIS.

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>> BUT NO, IT'S REALLY

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THERAPEUTIC FOR ME TO JUST BE ON

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ON MY OWN AND JUST KIND OF LIKE

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RIFF AND BUILD THESE

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RECORDS THROUGH THE FREESTYLING,

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YOU KNOW.

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>> AND CHELSEA, FOR YOU AS A

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COMEDIENNE, HOW DO YOU COME UP

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WITH YOUR MATERIAL?

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>> WHERE DO I WRITE?

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WHEREVER I CAN.

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WHENEVER I THINK OF SOMETHING

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FUNNY.

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SOMETIMES I WAKE UP AND GET

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STONED AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, YOU

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HAVE TO WRITE FOR AN HOUR NOW.

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YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF.

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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

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LIKE PERFORM, GET IT OUT THERE.

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>> EXACTLY.

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>> BUT WHENEVER I CAN.

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WHENEVER I HAVE A FUNNY IDEA.

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YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO BE THINKING

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ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I

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AM A COMEDIENNE SO IT'S ABOUT

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EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, YOU

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KNOW, AND ALL THE SHIT I SEE.

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AND RIGHT NOW WHAT'S ON THE MENU

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IS MIDDLE-AGED WHITE MEN, YOU

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KNOW WHAT I MEAN --

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NO OFFENSE TOM, I'M NOT TALKING

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ABOUT YOU.

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[LAUGHTER]

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I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL.

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>> I'M NOT MIDDLE AGED YET.

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I'M STILL --

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>> HE STILL YOUNG.

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>> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

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>> YES, I DO.

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>> IT'S LIKE, LISTEN,

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EVERYTHING'S OUT BUT THAT, SO

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LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW.

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>> I FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE

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THINGS I WAS REAL EXCITED ABOUT

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LIKE WHEN THIS GROUP OF YOU FOUR

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CAME TOGETHER WAS IN EACH OF

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YOUR CAREERS, YOU GUYS HAVE

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CHARTED YOUR OWN PATH.

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LIKE WHERE'S THAT CONFIDENCE

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COME FROM TO LIKE CHART YOUR OWN

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PATH AND NOT BE AFRAID OF

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WHAT PEOPLE --

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>> SAY, FUCK IT, I'M GOING TO DO

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MY THING.

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>> EXACTLY.

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>> I THINK THAT CONFIDENCE FOR

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ME, THAT SHIT STEMS ALL THE WAY

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BACK TO ME AS A KID.

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LIKE, MY MOM, THE WAY SHE

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SUPPORTED ME AND LIKE ALL OF MY

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CRAZY ASS WAYS THAT YOU STILL

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SEE TO THIS DAY.

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>> THERE'S A LOT OF THEM.

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>> THERE'S A BUNCH OF THEM.

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BUT THE SUPPORT FROM MY MOM,

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IT WAS LIKE ALWAYS THERE.

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NOW WHAT I FOUND OUT OVER THE

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COURSE OF MY CAREER SHE COME

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AROUND THE BACKSIDE AND

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COMPLETELY BACKDOOR ME AND TELL

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SOMEBODY HOW FUCKED UP IT WAS

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WHAT I DID, BUT --

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>> OH, BUT SHE SUPPORTS YOU.

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>> BUT SHE SUPPORTED ME.

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AND SO THAT JUST GAVE ME THE

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ULTIMATE CONFIDENCE TO GO OUT

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AND PRETTY MUCH SAY, FUCK

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EVERYBODY.

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BECAUSE I ALWAYS VIEWED IT AS I

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GOT A MUCH BETTER CHANCE AT

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BEING ME, AND EITHER YOU'RE

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GOING TO LOVE IT OR HATE IT BUT

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YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPINION

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ABOUT IT, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

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AND SO, FOR ME, WHETHER YOU

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WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR WHETHER

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IT'S BAD, I DID MY JOB BECAUSE

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YOU YOU NOT STUCK HERE TRYING TO

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FIGURE IT OUT, YOU MADE YOUR

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DECISION.

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I FUCKING MADE YOU MAKE THAT

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DECISION, THOUGH.

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YOU DIDN'T JUST MAKE IT ON YOUR

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OWN.

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>> FOR SURE.

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AND TOM, LIKE, YOU'RE THE MOST

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JUDGED ATHLETE IN THE WORLD.

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WHERE DOES THAT CONFIDENCE COME

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FROM TO BE LIKE, I'M GOING TO

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MAKE THE CALL WITH THE

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INFORMATION I HAVE AND I'LL LIVE

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WITH THE RESULT?

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>> WELL, I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, AT

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THIS POINT I'VE HAD A LOT OF

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EXPERIENCE, AND I THINK FOR ME I

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WAS VERY BLESSED TO HAVE THE

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RIGHT PEOPLE COME INTO MY LIFE

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AT THE RIGHT TIME.

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ALEX, MY GREAT FRIEND, MY

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BROTHER, YOU KNOW, HE'S OUT HERE

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WITH ME TODAY, YOU KNOW, I WAS

335
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STRUGGLING WITH HOW TO TAKE CARE

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OF MY BODY, I WANTED TO PLAY

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SPORTS BUT MY BODY HURT ALL THE

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TIME, MY RIGHT ELBOW HURT EVERY

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TIME I THREW.

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>> OH, WOW.

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>> SO, I STARTED WORKING WITH

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HIM AND ALL THE PAIN IN MY ELBOW

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WENT AWAY.

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I TAKE CARE OF MY BODY SO THAT

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WHEN I GO ON THE FIELD IT'S

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ACTUALLY FEELING GREAT.

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BECAUSE EVERYONE, EVERY ATHLETE

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LOVES TO FEEL GREAT, YOU KNOW.

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I SEE ALL THESE NBA GUYS

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GETTING HURT ALL THE TIME BUT IN

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MY MIND I'M THINKING THIS IS SO

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EASY, YOU JUST -- NO OFFENSE.

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YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THAT FAR,

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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

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IS NOT A LOT OF CONTACT.

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YOU GOT NICE COMFORTABLE SHOES

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ON, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IT'S

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NICE CLIMATE ALL THE TIME.

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YOU KNOW LIKE YOU GUYS --

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MAN, IF I WAS A BASKETBALL

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PLAYER I ALWAYS THOUGHT LEBRON,

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LIKE, MAN, IF HE FELT 100% EVERY

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NIGHT IT'D BE SCARY.

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YOU KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN VERY

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FORTUNATE TO FEEL NOT ALWAYS

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100% BUT CLOSE TO THAT, SO.

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>> I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING TOM DO

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SOME BASKETBALL DRILLS AFTER

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HEARING THIS.

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>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO

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SAY.

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THE WAY HE'S TALKING, HE --

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>> LET'S GET THAT SHOW ON THE

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ROAD.

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>> DRAY, THE WAY HE WAS TALKING

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HE WAS LIKE, YO, I THINK I CAN.

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>> NO.

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>> I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT SAYING

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SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT HE SAID BUT

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THEN I FELT LIKE YOU KNOW I'LL

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PROBABLY GET FUCKING CRUSHED FOR

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SAYING SOMETHING BACK TO

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TOM BRADY.

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SO I JUST DECIDED TO SHUT THE

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FUCK UP.

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>> NO.

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THERE'S NO OFFENSE TAKEN.

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I LOVE BASKETBALL.

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>> NO, NO, NO, NO OFFENSE TAKEN,

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NO OFFENSE TAKEN.

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I THINK THERE IS JUST, I

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THINK THERE'S ALWAYS YOU'LL SEE

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IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND

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WE'LL SEE IT FROM OUR

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PERSPECTIVE.

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WHAT WE SEE AS A BASKETBALL

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PLAYER IS AS A FOOTBALL

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PLAYER I DON'T HAVE TO BE IN AS

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GREAT OF SHAPE BECAUSE YOU GET

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TO FUCKING STOP YOU YOU STOP

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AFTER EVERY PLAY.

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YOU CAN GET CALLED ON A

403
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BASKETBALL COURT AND BE RUNNING

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FOR SEVEN MINUTES STRAIGHT

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WITHOUT A TIMEOUT BACK AND

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FORTH.

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>> YEAH.

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>> BY THE WAY I'M NOT GETTING

409
00:10:03,210 --> 00:10:04,070
OUT THERE ON THE

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FUCKING FOOTBALL FIELD.

411
00:10:04,250 --> 00:10:06,230
I'M GOOD.

412
00:10:06,250 --> 00:10:07,129
[LAUGHTER]

413
00:10:07,149 --> 00:10:08,070
>> LET'S GO POINT FOR POINT.

414
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>> LEBRON ONCE MADE A COMMENT ON

415
00:10:08,289 --> 00:10:09,159
THIS SHOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF

416
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YOU EVER SAW THIS EPISODE.

417
00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:10,289
BECAUSE I WAS SAYING TO HIM I

418
00:10:11,009 --> 00:10:11,259
THINK TOM BRADY IS THE GREATEST

419
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ATHLETE OF ALL TIME AND LEBRON'S

420
00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:13,250
LIKE I LOVE TOM, I THINK HE'S

421
00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:14,230
THE GREATEST FOOTBALL PLAYER BUT

422
00:10:14,250 --> 00:10:15,110
FOOTBALL PLAYERS DON'T HAVE TO

423
00:10:15,129 --> 00:10:17,210
PLAY OFFENSE AND DEFENSE.

424
00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:19,230
I DISAGREED WITH HIM.

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DO YOU REMEMBER THAT, TOM?

426
00:10:20,110 --> 00:10:20,279
>> I REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID THAT,

427
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I REMEMBER.

428
00:10:21,190 --> 00:10:22,070
OF COURSE I REMEMBER WHEN HE

429
00:10:22,090 --> 00:10:22,269
SAID THAT.

430
00:10:22,289 --> 00:10:23,190
>> I DISAGREE --

431
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TOM, I DISAGREED WITH HIM.

432
00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:26,190
WHAT DID YOU THINK?

433
00:10:26,210 --> 00:10:27,080
>> YEAH.

434
00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:30,019
UM...

435
00:10:30,039 --> 00:10:31,169
[PAUSES]

436
00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:32,039
>> WE KEEP IT REAL ON "THE

437
00:10:32,059 --> 00:10:32,139
SHOP," TOM.

438
00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:33,009
TOM, WE KEEP IT REAL ON THE

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SHOP.

440
00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:34,009
>> DON'T BE CALCULATED.

441
00:10:34,029 --> 00:10:34,190
>> I'M TRYING TO, I WANT TO --

442
00:10:34,210 --> 00:10:35,220
YEAH.

443
00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,100
I'M NOT A BIG COMPARISON THING

444
00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:36,269
LIKE THAT.

445
00:10:36,289 --> 00:10:37,259
>> I AGREE, YEAH.

446
00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:38,139
>> BECAUSE REALLY JUST DEPENDS

447
00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:38,269
WHAT STYLE YOU LIKE.

448
00:10:38,289 --> 00:10:39,169
>> TRUE.

449
00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:42,129
>> RIGHT?

450
00:10:42,149 --> 00:10:43,019
YOU COULD SAY, WELL, YOU MAY BE

451
00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:47,210
THE MOST ACCOMPLISHED.

452
00:10:47,230 --> 00:10:48,129
I WOULD SAY OKAY, YEAH, I'VE

453
00:10:48,149 --> 00:10:49,029
WON A LOT OF GAMES, SUPER BOWLS,

454
00:10:49,049 --> 00:10:49,129
AND SO FORTH.

455
00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:50,019
BUT MY STYLE OF PLAY MIGHT NOT

456
00:10:50,039 --> 00:10:50,210
FIT EVERYBODY ELSE'S, WHAT THEIR

457
00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:51,070
VIEW OF WHAT THAT POSITION

458
00:10:51,090 --> 00:10:51,279
SHOULD BE.

459
00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,220
>> I AGREE.

460
00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,120
>> I CAN REALLY JUST BE THE BEST

461
00:10:54,139 --> 00:10:56,009
WITH THE BODY THAT I WAS GIVEN,

462
00:10:56,029 --> 00:10:56,190
YOU KNOW?

463
00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:57,090
>> MMHMM.

464
00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:58,000
>> YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN

465
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THINGS THAT I CERTAINLY CANNOT

466
00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,019
DO.

467
00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:03,250
AND I HAVE THE AWARENESS TO

468
00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:04,139
REALIZE, OKAY, I CAN'T DO THOSE

469
00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:04,230
THINGS.

470
00:11:04,250 --> 00:11:05,110
YOU CAN'T DO EVERYONE ELSE'S

471
00:11:05,129 --> 00:11:06,029
JOB.

472
00:11:06,049 --> 00:11:08,080
I CAN'T.

473
00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:08,250
I CAN'T BLOCK, TACKLE, RUN,

474
00:11:08,269 --> 00:11:09,090
CATCH.

475
00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:10,009
SURE AS -- YOU KNOW SURE AS HELL

476
00:11:10,029 --> 00:11:14,070
CAN'T RUN.

477
00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:17,220
[LAUGHTER]

478
00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,110
BUT I CAN THROW THE SHIT OUT OF

479
00:11:18,129 --> 00:11:19,009
A BALL, YOU KNOW, SO LET ME JUST

480
00:11:19,029 --> 00:11:19,179
DO THAT, AND LET ME DO THAT

481
00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,019
REALLY WELL, YOU KNOW.

482
00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:20,129
>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

483
00:11:20,149 --> 00:11:21,009
>> AND I THINK IF I COULD DO

484
00:11:21,029 --> 00:11:21,179
THAT THEN THE TEAM CERTAINLY

485
00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,090
COULD USE ME FOR THAT.

486
00:11:22,110 --> 00:11:23,090
>> IT'S ALSO INTERESTING TO

487
00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:24,009
ALWAYS RECOGNIZE WHEN YOU'RE NOT

488
00:11:24,029 --> 00:11:24,169
GOOD AT SOMETHING, RIGHT.

489
00:11:24,190 --> 00:11:25,080
AND SOMEONE ELSE IN YOUR ORBIT

490
00:11:25,100 --> 00:11:25,269
IS.

491
00:11:25,289 --> 00:11:26,269
>> YEAH.

492
00:11:26,289 --> 00:11:27,230
>> LIKE, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT

493
00:11:27,250 --> 00:11:28,139
OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY BECOME

494
00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:29,120
SUCCESSFUL GET A LITTLE

495
00:11:29,139 --> 00:11:31,269
DELUSIONAL ABOUT HOW SMART THEY

496
00:11:31,289 --> 00:11:35,029
ARE AND HOW CAPABLE THEY ARE, SO

497
00:11:35,049 --> 00:11:35,279
THEY TRY AND PERMEATE THAT

498
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,169
THROUGHOUT EVERY FACET OF THEIR

499
00:11:36,190 --> 00:11:37,039
PROFESSIONAL LIFE AND MAYBE

500
00:11:37,059 --> 00:11:37,269
PERSONAL LIFE.

501
00:11:37,289 --> 00:11:39,190
AND THEN YOU COME TO A POINT OF

502
00:11:39,210 --> 00:11:40,110
REALIZATION WHERE YOU'RE LIKE,

503
00:11:40,129 --> 00:11:41,049
THAT PERSON IS ACTUALLY MORE

504
00:11:41,070 --> 00:11:42,220
TALENTED AT THIS THAN I AM, LET

505
00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,110
ME LET THEM DO THAT AND LET THIS

506
00:11:43,129 --> 00:11:44,139
PERSON DO THAT.

507
00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:47,129
BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL SIGN OF A

508
00:11:47,149 --> 00:11:49,200
LEADER, I THINK, IS BEING ABLE

509
00:11:49,220 --> 00:11:50,200
TO DEPUTIZE.

510
00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:51,129
>> THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LOT OF

511
00:11:51,149 --> 00:11:52,070
UNSUCCESSFUL PEOPLE AND A LOT OF

512
00:11:52,090 --> 00:11:55,289
FUCKING DUMBASSES.

513
00:11:56,009 --> 00:11:56,259
AND YOU CAN TELL BY

514
00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:57,169
THE CRITICISM THAT COMES TO YOU

515
00:11:57,190 --> 00:11:58,059
OR THE CRITICISM THAT COMES TO

516
00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,100
YOU.

517
00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,090
I'VE FOUND THAT SOLACE IN THAT

518
00:12:01,110 --> 00:12:02,009
OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND

519
00:12:02,029 --> 00:12:03,100
JUST LIKE LISTENING TO PEOPLE

520
00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,139
AND WHAT THEY SAY AND THE

521
00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:06,190
CRITICISM, IT'LL ACTUALLY SHOW

522
00:12:06,210 --> 00:12:07,129
YOU HOW FUCKING STUPID PEOPLE

523
00:12:07,149 --> 00:12:11,159
ARE THROUGH THEIR CRITICISM.

524
00:12:11,179 --> 00:12:12,049
FOR INSTANCE, PEOPLE WILL SAY,

525
00:12:12,070 --> 00:12:12,289
DRAYMOND, YOU SHOULD SHOOT.

526
00:12:13,009 --> 00:12:15,090
BUT IF I CAN GET STEPH CURRY THE

527
00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:15,259
BALL FOR A FUCKING SHOT WHY

528
00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:16,139
WOULD I SHOOT?

529
00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:17,149
>> YOU SHOULD NEVER SHOOT.

530
00:12:17,169 --> 00:12:18,250
>> YOU'RE ACTUALLY A FUCKING

531
00:12:18,269 --> 00:12:21,009
IDIOT FOR THINKING I SHOULD

532
00:12:21,029 --> 00:12:23,149
SHOOT BECAUSE I CAN GET HIM THE

533
00:12:23,169 --> 00:12:25,090
SHOT, AND IF HE'S HALF OPEN IT'S

534
00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:26,200
BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE

535
00:12:26,220 --> 00:12:28,179
WORLD!

536
00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,179
IF HE'S HALF OPEN!

537
00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:37,279
♪ ♪

538
00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,049
♪ ♪

539
00:12:41,070 --> 00:12:42,059
>> CUDI, ALBUM TO ALBUM, YOUR

540
00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,149
MUSIC IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOUR

541
00:12:43,169 --> 00:12:44,169
LIFE IS DIFFERENT, SO YOUR FANS

542
00:12:44,190 --> 00:12:45,220
AND THE CONSUMERS OF YOUR MUSIC

543
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,110
HAVE TO GO ON THAT JOURNEY WITH

544
00:12:46,129 --> 00:12:47,220
YOU.

545
00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,279
>> WELL, THAT'S -- FOR ME,

546
00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:51,120
THAT'S TRULY THE MOST

547
00:12:51,139 --> 00:12:53,009
IMPORTANT THING.

548
00:12:53,029 --> 00:12:54,070
LIKE, THERE'S SO MANY RAPPERS TO

549
00:12:54,090 --> 00:12:55,129
THIS DAY RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE

550
00:12:55,149 --> 00:12:56,269
BEEN IN THIS GAME FOR YEARS THAT

551
00:12:56,289 --> 00:12:57,179
HAVE HIT THE CEILING ON WHAT

552
00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,139
THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

553
00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:02,009
>> YUP.

554
00:13:02,029 --> 00:13:02,179
>> WE DONE SEEN IT ALL, YOU

555
00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,169
KNOW.

556
00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:06,019
AND I TOLD MYSELF FROM DAY

557
00:13:06,039 --> 00:13:06,200
ONE I NEVER WANT TO BE ONE OF

558
00:13:06,220 --> 00:13:07,080
THOSE GUYS.

559
00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:08,129
AND I THINK THAT I'VE BEEN LUCKY

560
00:13:08,149 --> 00:13:10,250
ENOUGH TO HAVE A FAN BASE THAT'S

561
00:13:10,269 --> 00:13:11,139
LIKE, OKAY WITH ME TAKING THESE

562
00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:13,059
BIG LEAPS.

563
00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,129
LIKE, I DID A PUNK ROCK ALBUM

564
00:13:15,149 --> 00:13:15,269
AND IT DID MISERABLE.

565
00:13:15,289 --> 00:13:18,110
>> OF COURSE.

566
00:13:18,129 --> 00:13:19,100
[LAUGHTER]

567
00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,029
>> LIKE, IT WAS LIKE --

568
00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:21,039
>> BUT YOU TOOK A LEAP, YEAH.

569
00:13:21,059 --> 00:13:22,080
>> YEAH, I TOOK A LEAP AND

570
00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:22,269
PEOPLE PEOPLE RESPECTED THAT,

571
00:13:22,289 --> 00:13:25,269
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

572
00:13:25,289 --> 00:13:26,169
AND IN A WORLD WHERE EVERY

573
00:13:26,190 --> 00:13:27,080
ARTIST IS KIND OF JUST DOING

574
00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:29,240
WHAT THEY THINK IS COOL AND

575
00:13:29,259 --> 00:13:35,190
TRYING TO FIT IN, THAT SHIT GOES

576
00:13:35,210 --> 00:13:36,019
A LONG WAY, SO LIKE

577
00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:36,200
A BOMB AMONGST ALL THIS OTHER

578
00:13:36,220 --> 00:13:37,110
SHIT GOING ON, YOU KNOW.

579
00:13:37,129 --> 00:13:37,289
>> IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYONE

580
00:13:38,009 --> 00:13:38,210
ELSE IS TRYING TO FIT IN,

581
00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:39,139
EVERYONE ELSE REALLY CARES WHAT

582
00:13:39,159 --> 00:13:40,070
EVERYONE ELSE THINKS, WALK US

583
00:13:40,090 --> 00:13:46,149
THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LIKE --

584
00:13:46,169 --> 00:13:50,250
WHEN IT CAME TO YOU LIKE, YEAH,

585
00:13:50,269 --> 00:13:51,139
I'M GOING TO WEAR A DRESS ON

586
00:13:51,159 --> 00:13:52,009
"SNL."

587
00:13:52,029 --> 00:13:53,009
>> WELL, I'M A HUGE KURT COBAIN

588
00:13:53,029 --> 00:13:53,240
FAN.

589
00:13:53,259 --> 00:13:54,159
MY FANS KNOW THIS ABOUT ME.

590
00:13:54,179 --> 00:13:55,100
AND I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO WEAR A

591
00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,100
DRESS EVER SINCE I SAW KURT

592
00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,120
WEARING THIS DRESS BACK IN THE

593
00:13:57,139 --> 00:13:58,240
DAY AT ONE OF HIS SHOWS IN THE

594
00:13:58,259 --> 00:13:59,240
'80S, AND I WAS ALWAYS LIKE MAN,

595
00:13:59,259 --> 00:14:00,259
ONE DAY I'M GOING TO DO THAT,

596
00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:01,149
I'M GOING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW,

597
00:14:01,169 --> 00:14:02,049
AND THIS IS LIKE YEARS AGO,

598
00:14:02,070 --> 00:14:05,070
RIGHT.

599
00:14:05,090 --> 00:14:07,230
SO "SNL" COMES MY WAY, SO I

600
00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:10,179
IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT LIKE, THIS

601
00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,070
WOULD BE THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY

602
00:14:11,090 --> 00:14:12,169
TO WEAR A DRESS.

603
00:14:12,190 --> 00:14:14,039
BUT DO I GO TO A STORE AND JUST

604
00:14:14,059 --> 00:14:17,110
LIKE, BUY SOMETHING OFF THE RACK

605
00:14:17,129 --> 00:14:20,100
OR DO I GO GET SOMEBODY TO MAKE

606
00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,100
ME SOME SHIT, RIGHT.

607
00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,080
[LAUGHTER]

608
00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:25,009
>> SO, I WAS LIKE, I WAS AT THIS

609
00:14:25,029 --> 00:14:25,250
POINT WHERE I WAS LIKE, LOOKING

610
00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:26,159
ON MY PHONE LIKE KIND OF LOOKING

611
00:14:26,179 --> 00:14:27,090
AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT STORES,

612
00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:29,159
LIKE LOOKING AT DRESSES, AND I

613
00:14:29,179 --> 00:14:31,220
WAS JUST LIKE WELL, THIS IS

614
00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,000
CUTE, THIS IS CUTE.

615
00:14:34,019 --> 00:14:38,009
[LAUGHTER]

616
00:14:38,029 --> 00:14:39,230
>> AND THEN I FINALLY REALIZED,

617
00:14:39,250 --> 00:14:40,120
I WAS LIKE, YO, I'M GOING TO GET

618
00:14:40,139 --> 00:14:40,220
VIRGIL.

619
00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,070
BECAUSE VIRGIL'S MY BOY.

620
00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:41,240
>> OF COURSE.

621
00:14:41,259 --> 00:14:42,129
>> AND I SAID, I'M GOING TO GET

622
00:14:42,149 --> 00:14:43,029
VIRGIL TO DO THIS, I'M GOING TO

623
00:14:43,049 --> 00:14:43,220
SEE IF HE HAS TIME, BECAUSE HE'S

624
00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,139
CRAZY, HE'S GOT A LOT OF THINGS

625
00:14:44,159 --> 00:14:48,110
HE'S DOING, AND HE HIT ME RIGHT

626
00:14:48,129 --> 00:14:49,080
BACK AND WAS LIKE YES, LET'S GO,

627
00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:49,250
I GOT PRINTS, WHAT YOU WANT.

628
00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:50,120
I WAS LIKE ALL RIGHT I WANT

629
00:14:50,139 --> 00:14:50,269
SOMETHING FLORAL LIKE A

630
00:14:50,289 --> 00:14:52,200
SUNDRESS.

631
00:14:52,220 --> 00:14:53,110
HE'S LIKE PERFECT.

632
00:14:53,129 --> 00:14:54,019
HE SENT ME LIKE PRINTS LIKE TWO

633
00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:54,120
SECONDS LATER.

634
00:14:54,139 --> 00:14:55,009
LIKE HE HAD THEM SHITS ON DECK,

635
00:14:55,029 --> 00:14:55,210
RIGHT.

636
00:14:55,230 --> 00:14:56,110
JUST HAD PRINTS.

637
00:14:56,129 --> 00:14:57,139
>> DURING THIS PROCESS, AT ANY

638
00:14:57,159 --> 00:15:00,259
MOMENT ARE YOU LIKE, I'M GOING

639
00:15:00,279 --> 00:15:01,279
TO GET FRIED, LIKE, IN THE

640
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:02,149
MEDIA?

641
00:15:02,169 --> 00:15:04,110
>> NO, BECAUSE --

642
00:15:04,129 --> 00:15:08,159
>> OKAY.

643
00:15:08,179 --> 00:15:09,169
>> NO, I -- THE IMAGE OF SEEING

644
00:15:09,190 --> 00:15:10,129
KURT COBAIN IN THE DRESS WAS

645
00:15:10,149 --> 00:15:11,009
VERY ROCK 'N ROLL TO ME, THAT

646
00:15:11,029 --> 00:15:11,169
WAS COOL.

647
00:15:11,190 --> 00:15:16,169
>> DOPE.

648
00:15:16,190 --> 00:15:18,070
>> SO, YOU KNOW, I ALREADY MADE

649
00:15:18,090 --> 00:15:20,190
MY MIND UP YEARS AGO THAT I

650
00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:22,220
WANTED TO DO THIS, SO IT WAS

651
00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,159
REALLY --

652
00:15:23,179 --> 00:15:25,169
AND I I'VE NEVER BEEN SOMEONE

653
00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:26,220
WHO IS LIKE, THINKING ABOUT THE

654
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,220
BACKLASH, LIKE I DON'T GIVE A

655
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,259
FUCK ABOUT WHAT ANYONE THINKS,

656
00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:31,240
YOU KNOW.

657
00:15:31,259 --> 00:15:32,149
YOU CAN'T WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS

658
00:15:32,169 --> 00:15:33,210
SHIT.

659
00:15:33,230 --> 00:15:35,169
I KNEW IT WOULD PISS SOME PEOPLE

660
00:15:35,190 --> 00:15:39,110
OFF BUT I LOVE THAT BECAUSE HIP

661
00:15:39,129 --> 00:15:43,220
HOP IS LIKE, SO WEIRD ABOUT

662
00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,220
SHIT, YOU KNOW.

663
00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,289
>> MASCULINITY, OF COURSE.

664
00:15:46,009 --> 00:15:46,240
>> YEAH, YOU KNOW.

665
00:15:46,259 --> 00:15:48,019
SO, LIKE YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE I'VE

666
00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:48,210
ALREADY SEEN LIKE PEOPLE MAKING

667
00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:49,080
YOUTUBE VIDEOS WHERE THEY'RE

668
00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:49,269
JUST STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT ME

669
00:15:49,289 --> 00:15:51,190
IN THIS DRESS.

670
00:15:51,210 --> 00:15:52,110
LIKE, GROWN MEN ANGRY, GROWN

671
00:15:52,129 --> 00:15:53,230
BLACK MEN ANGRY.

672
00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:54,190
LIKE, HE'S DOING SOMETHING

673
00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:56,250
AGAINST MEN AND MASCULINITY,

674
00:15:56,269 --> 00:15:58,070
IT'S A BIG THING GOING ON, IT'S

675
00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:58,259
A PLOY, AND HE'S A PART OF IT,

676
00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:00,220
AND THIS AND THIS.

677
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,100
AND I'LL JUST BE LIKE, YO, THIS

678
00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,210
IS SO FUNNY, THIS IS CRAZY THAT

679
00:16:03,230 --> 00:16:07,039
I'VE STIRRED IT UP LIKE THIS.

680
00:16:07,059 --> 00:16:07,230
LIKE, THIS IS THIS IS WILD, YOU

681
00:16:07,250 --> 00:16:15,169
KNOW.

682
00:16:15,190 --> 00:16:16,230
BUT IF THIS WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO

683
00:16:16,250 --> 00:16:17,049
DO THEN SO BE IT.

684
00:16:17,070 --> 00:16:17,269
I WANT TO BE A DISRUPTOR.

685
00:16:17,289 --> 00:16:19,009
I WANT TO FUCK SHIT UP.

686
00:16:19,029 --> 00:16:19,190
AND IT'S COOL BECAUSE I'M ALSO

687
00:16:19,210 --> 00:16:20,129
GIVING CONFIDENCE TO THE KIDS

688
00:16:20,149 --> 00:16:21,029
AND AND TELLING THEM TO BE

689
00:16:21,049 --> 00:16:22,029
THEMSELVES AND DO WHAT THEY WANT

690
00:16:22,049 --> 00:16:23,090
TO DO, YOU KNOW.

691
00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:27,139
IF YOU WANT TO WEAR A DRESS WEAR

692
00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:35,169
A DRESS.

693
00:16:35,190 --> 00:16:36,179
BE WHO YOU ARE.

694
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,049
>> AND DID YOU GET ANY CALLS

695
00:16:37,070 --> 00:16:37,210
FROM YOUR PEERS?

696
00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:38,149
OTHER RAPPERS, OTHER HIP HOP

697
00:16:38,169 --> 00:16:39,039
ARTISTS, OTHER MUSICIANS, OTHER

698
00:16:39,059 --> 00:16:39,179
ARTISTS?

699
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,100
>> I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE

700
00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:40,279
KANYE'S GOING TO HIT ME UP AND

701
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,149
BE LIKE, YO, THAT DRESS WAS

702
00:16:41,169 --> 00:16:43,100
FRESH.

703
00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,029
[LAUGHTER]

704
00:16:44,049 --> 00:16:45,149
>> THAT FLORAL DRESS WAS DOPE.

705
00:16:45,169 --> 00:16:46,019
>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S

706
00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:46,090
OKAY.

707
00:16:46,110 --> 00:16:46,279
I KNOW THAT KANYE SEES THAT AND

708
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,190
HE RESPECTS ME FOR IT, YOU KNOW

709
00:16:47,210 --> 00:16:48,059
WHAT I'M SAYING?

710
00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,019
>> OF COURSE.

711
00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:49,220
>> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT DOES

712
00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,149
BOTHER YOU?

713
00:16:50,169 --> 00:16:51,100
THAT YOU CARE ABOUT ANOTHER

714
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,279
PERSON'S OPINION OR THAT IT BUMS

715
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,200
YOU OUT WHEN PEOPLE SAY

716
00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:56,289
SOMETHING ABOUT YOU?

717
00:16:57,009 --> 00:16:59,190
>> I'M MORE LIKE, HMM, I WONDER

718
00:16:59,210 --> 00:17:01,000
WHY THEY FEEL THAT WAY?

719
00:17:01,019 --> 00:17:03,110
FUCK 'EM.

720
00:17:03,129 --> 00:17:04,089
[LAUGHTER]

721
00:17:04,109 --> 00:17:06,059
>> IT'S REAL BRIEF.

722
00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:06,240
>> I LOVE THAT, BUDDY.

723
00:17:06,259 --> 00:17:07,230
I'M GOING TO ADOPT THAT.

724
00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:10,130
WHOA.

725
00:17:10,150 --> 00:17:12,049
THAT WOULD SAVE ME A LOT OF --

726
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:13,109
LOVE THAT.

727
00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:14,069
>> YOU GUYS, THEIR PROFESSION IS

728
00:17:14,089 --> 00:17:14,250
A LITTLE BIT -- THEY HAVE TO

729
00:17:14,269 --> 00:17:16,029
SHOW UP AND SEE THE PRESS AFTER

730
00:17:16,049 --> 00:17:16,119
PRACTICE --

731
00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:17,119
>> YEAH, THAT'S A NIGHTMARE.

732
00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:18,109
>> AND NAOMI OSAKA OBVIOUSLY

733
00:17:18,130 --> 00:17:19,000
FAMOUSLY JUST WITHDREW FROM THE

734
00:17:19,019 --> 00:17:20,230
FRENCH OPEN.

735
00:17:20,250 --> 00:17:23,160
DO YOU THINK THAT'S PART OF IT

736
00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:26,079
OR IT SHOULDN'T BE, OR WHAT?

737
00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:27,250
>> I THINK IT IS A PART OF IT,

738
00:17:27,269 --> 00:17:29,029
JUST BECAUSE THAT'S HOW --

739
00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:30,079
THEY'VE MADE IT THAT WAY.

740
00:17:30,099 --> 00:17:33,089
SO, YES, IT IS A PART OF IT.

741
00:17:33,109 --> 00:17:39,109
BUT THE THING THAT PISSES ME OFF

742
00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:40,019
IS IS IT'S ALMOST AS

743
00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:40,210
BIG OF A DOUBLE STANDARD AS YOU

744
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:41,130
CAN EVER HAVE.

745
00:17:41,150 --> 00:17:43,029
>> OH, I KNOW.

746
00:17:43,049 --> 00:17:44,259
>> AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS

747
00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:46,009
BECAUSE YOU THROW THIS

748
00:17:46,029 --> 00:17:48,099
MICROPHONE IN MY FACE WHILE YOU

749
00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,130
KNOW I'M PISSED OFF, WHILE YOU

750
00:17:51,150 --> 00:17:52,230
KNOW, LIKE, I JUST GOT EJECTED

751
00:17:52,250 --> 00:17:55,009
FROM THE GAME, AND THEN YOU

752
00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:59,180
THROW THE MIC IN MY FACE LIKE

753
00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:06,240
WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK, AND

754
00:18:06,259 --> 00:18:07,130
THEN IF I SAY "FUCK YOU" I GET

755
00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:09,009
FINED.

756
00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:10,009
YOU WANT MY NATURAL REACTION

757
00:18:10,029 --> 00:18:10,200
BUT I'M ACTUALLY NOT ALLOWED TO

758
00:18:10,220 --> 00:18:11,079
GIVE YOU A NATURAL REACTION.

759
00:18:11,099 --> 00:18:11,289
>> YEAH.

760
00:18:12,009 --> 00:18:12,220
>> BECAUSE IF I GIVE YOU MY

761
00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,119
NATURAL REACTION YOU'RE GOING TO

762
00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:14,000
TAKE MY MONEY.

763
00:18:14,019 --> 00:18:14,289
I WORKED MY ASS OFF FOR THIS

764
00:18:15,009 --> 00:18:17,099
MONEY.

765
00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,279
[LAUGHTER]

766
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,130
>> YOU PROBABLY JUST GOT

767
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:22,099
FINED --

768
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,009
>> THE PAINT, THE PAINT IS NEW

769
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:23,160
-- STILL THERE.

770
00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:24,130
>> I'LL PROBABLY GET SOME.

771
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:25,269
>> AS LONG AS I'VE WATCHED YOU

772
00:18:25,289 --> 00:18:27,109
PLAY, AS LONG AS I'VE WATCHED

773
00:18:27,130 --> 00:18:27,289
YOU, I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU DON'T

774
00:18:28,009 --> 00:18:28,190
SAY WHAT YOU THINK I THINK.

775
00:18:28,210 --> 00:18:30,069
YOU'RE HOLDING BACK?

776
00:18:30,089 --> 00:18:31,009
>> WHAT ELSE IS IN THERE?

777
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:32,039
>> OH, YOU'LL BE SHOCKED.

778
00:18:32,059 --> 00:18:33,200
YOU'LL BE SHOCKED.

779
00:18:33,220 --> 00:18:34,109
>> WHAT ELSE IS HE HOLDING BACK?

780
00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:35,109
>> I KNOW.

781
00:18:35,130 --> 00:18:36,009
>> I'VE LEARNED HOW TO TAILOR IT

782
00:18:36,029 --> 00:18:38,109
A LITTLE BIT.

783
00:18:38,130 --> 00:18:39,289
YOU'D BE SHOCKED, TOM.

784
00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:42,130
>> TOM, ARE THERE MOMENTS WHEN

785
00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:43,069
YOU JUST WANT TO LIKE, PULL A

786
00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:43,269
DRAYMOND MAYBE AND AND TAKE THE

787
00:18:43,289 --> 00:18:44,220
FINE, OR?

788
00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,210
>> WHAT I SAY VERSUS WHAT I

789
00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:46,099
THINK ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT

790
00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,289
THINGS.

791
00:18:49,009 --> 00:18:49,200
I WOULD SAY 90% OF WHAT I SAY

792
00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:50,109
IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT I'M

793
00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:52,200
THINKING.

794
00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:53,089
WHICH IS CHALLENGING, YOU KNOW.

795
00:18:53,109 --> 00:18:54,049
>> WOW.

796
00:18:54,069 --> 00:18:55,000
>> AND I REALLY ADMIRE PEOPLE

797
00:18:55,019 --> 00:18:56,200
THAT ACTUALLY CAN DO THAT AND

798
00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:57,150
SAY WHAT THEY THINK BECAUSE THEY

799
00:18:57,170 --> 00:18:58,049
INVITE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS

800
00:18:58,069 --> 00:18:59,069
INTO THEIR LIFE.

801
00:18:59,089 --> 00:19:00,200
AND I THINK THERE'S PART OF ME

802
00:19:00,220 --> 00:19:02,119
THAT DOESN'T LIKE CONFLICT SO IN

803
00:19:02,140 --> 00:19:03,039
THE END, I JUST ALWAYS TRY TO

804
00:19:03,059 --> 00:19:03,279
PLAY IT SUPER FLAT.

805
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,079
>> OF COURSE.

806
00:19:05,099 --> 00:19:07,079
>> FROM A STRATEGIC STANDPOINT I

807
00:19:07,099 --> 00:19:07,279
NEVER WANT TO GIVE AWAY LIKE,

808
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:08,170
WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW WHAT

809
00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:08,279
I'M SAYING?

810
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,170
>> OF COURSE.

811
00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:11,029
>> LIKE, I USUALLY SAY THE

812
00:19:11,049 --> 00:19:13,059
OPPOSITE.

813
00:19:13,079 --> 00:19:15,089
YOU KNOW, THEY GOT A SHITTY

814
00:19:15,109 --> 00:19:15,279
CORNER I'LL BE LIKE, THAT GUY IS

815
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,150
UNBELIEVABLE.

816
00:19:16,170 --> 00:19:17,099
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THEY

817
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,210
COMPLETE BALLS OVER THERE.

818
00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:20,130
IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING I'M

819
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:21,019
GOING TO LIKE THAT MOTHERFUCKER

820
00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:23,049
ALL DAY.

821
00:19:23,069 --> 00:19:25,200
[LAUGHTER]

822
00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:28,039
>> BECAUSE I DON'T WANT

823
00:19:28,059 --> 00:19:28,170
TO GIVE THEM ANY --

824
00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:29,049
>> OF COURSE.

825
00:19:29,069 --> 00:19:30,039
>> SO, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO

826
00:19:30,059 --> 00:19:30,279
OTHER THINGS I THINK THERE'S

827
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:31,190
PART OF IT THAT'S YOU KNOW SO

828
00:19:31,210 --> 00:19:33,059
MUCH IS GIVING OTHER PEOPLE YOUR

829
00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:35,059
POWER, YOU KNOW.

830
00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:37,150
WHY CAN WHAT CHELSEA SAY REALLY

831
00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:40,069
AFFECT ME?

832
00:19:40,089 --> 00:19:43,079
IN MY VIEW, IT SHOULDN'T, OR

833
00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:45,269
ELSE YOU HAVE POWER OVER ME

834
00:19:45,289 --> 00:19:46,099
BASED ON WHAT YOU SAY.

835
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:46,279
I TRY TO THINK A LOT BEFORE I

836
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,180
SPEAK.

837
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,079
SOME PEOPLE...

838
00:19:51,099 --> 00:19:51,289
LIKE MY WIFE FOR EXAMPLE,

839
00:19:52,009 --> 00:19:55,259
SHE JUST LETS IT COME OUT.

840
00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:57,170
IT'S LIKE, AND IT'S OUT, AND I

841
00:19:57,190 --> 00:20:02,180
AM LIKE, OH, SHIT.

842
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,170
HER INSTINCTS AND NATURE IS

843
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:08,119
USUALLY RIGHT WITH A LOT OF THE

844
00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:15,160
THINGS SHE SAYS AND THINKS.

845
00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:17,000
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE

846
00:20:17,019 --> 00:20:17,220
SITUATION OR ANSWER BECAUSE I

847
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,180
DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT

848
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,069
IN THE END I'LL BE LIKE, WISH I

849
00:20:21,089 --> 00:20:22,019
HAD SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

850
00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:23,250
>> I'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU.

851
00:20:23,269 --> 00:20:25,220
A LITTLE HIDDEN GEM FOR YOU,

852
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,150
ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER HEARD ME

853
00:20:26,170 --> 00:20:29,220
SAY I DIDN'T MISTAKENLY SAY IT.

854
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,150
I SET IT ON PURPOSE.

855
00:20:30,170 --> 00:20:32,079
IF YOU KNOW ME, I'M A COMPLETELY

856
00:20:32,099 --> 00:20:33,130
DIFFERENT PERSON THAN YOU SEE ON

857
00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:33,269
THE FLOOR.

858
00:20:33,289 --> 00:20:36,039
I'M TRYING TO TAP INTO THAT

859
00:20:36,059 --> 00:20:36,170
PERSON.

860
00:20:36,190 --> 00:20:38,059
MEANWHILE YOU WANT ME TO SIT AND

861
00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:38,160
TALK TO YOU.

862
00:20:38,180 --> 00:20:39,230
THE SAME GUY THAT SITS AND TALKS

863
00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:40,230
TO YOU IS NOT THE SAME GUY THAT

864
00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:43,049
GOES ON THE FLOOR.

865
00:20:43,069 --> 00:20:45,269
WHEN YOU'RE ON STAGE, CUDI, IS

866
00:20:45,289 --> 00:20:46,279
THAT A WHOLE DIFFERENT

867
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,059
CHARACTER?

868
00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,220
>> YES.

869
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,150
>> TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN.

870
00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:53,150
>> WHEN I'M ON STAGE, I LOOK IN

871
00:20:53,170 --> 00:21:00,180
THE MIRROR AND I AM LIKE, I AM

872
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,150
THE COLDEST MOTHERFUCKER ALIVE.

873
00:21:02,170 --> 00:21:03,190
SOMETHING INSIDE ME WAKES UP.

874
00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:05,079
LIKE I'M THIS WHOLE OTHER BEING

875
00:21:05,099 --> 00:21:05,250
WHEN I'M OUT THERE.

876
00:21:05,269 --> 00:21:08,190
AND WHEN I'M OFF STAGE IT'S

877
00:21:08,210 --> 00:21:09,069
OVER.

878
00:21:09,089 --> 00:21:11,039
LIKE I CAN --

879
00:21:11,059 --> 00:21:11,119
[LAUGHTER]

880
00:21:11,140 --> 00:21:13,059
SPEAKER AND JUST BE LIKE, THAT

881
00:21:13,079 --> 00:21:16,220
WAS CRAZY, WHERE IS MY BLUNT?

882
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,089
WHERE'S MY WEED?

883
00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:19,210
>> BY THE WAY, IT GOES AWAY THE

884
00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:21,069
MINUTE YOUR OFFSTAGE, RIGHT?

885
00:21:21,089 --> 00:21:24,000
>> ACTUALLY, AFTER A SHOW, I

886
00:21:24,019 --> 00:21:25,150
CAN'T GO TO SLEEP.

887
00:21:25,170 --> 00:21:26,210
AFTER A GAME YOU CAN'T SLEEP?

888
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:28,200
>> I CAN'T SLEEP UNTIL AFTER

889
00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:29,009
6:00 A.M..

890
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:32,150
>> YEAH, BECAUSE I'M STILL

891
00:21:32,170 --> 00:21:32,230
TURNED UP.

892
00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,210
>> CUDI, I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE

893
00:21:35,230 --> 00:21:36,220
EARLY ON SPEAKING OUT ABOUT

894
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,200
MENTAL HEALTH.

895
00:21:37,220 --> 00:21:41,019
AND THERE WAS A BACKLASH, RIGHT?

896
00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:42,069
PEOPLE USED IT AGAINST YOU IN

897
00:21:42,089 --> 00:21:45,220
MUSIC AND ALL THESE THINGS.

898
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,109
WHAT WERE YOU -- WHAT WAS YOUR

899
00:21:47,130 --> 00:21:49,289
THOUGHT PROCESS THAT EARLY ON,

900
00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:50,269
JUST BEING OUTWARDLY SPOKEN ON

901
00:21:50,289 --> 00:21:51,069
MENTAL HEALTH?

902
00:21:51,089 --> 00:21:52,059
>> I KNEW THAT WHAT I WAS DOING

903
00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:55,049
WAS GOING TO HELP MILLIONS OF

904
00:21:55,069 --> 00:21:57,210
OTHER KIDS FOREVER, YOU KNOW.

905
00:21:57,230 --> 00:22:00,059
SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT FUELED

906
00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:01,119
THE WHOLE SHIT FOR ME.

907
00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:03,079
I KNEW THAT BY BEING OPEN AND

908
00:22:03,099 --> 00:22:04,000
HONEST ABOUT THE THINGS THAT I

909
00:22:04,019 --> 00:22:06,079
WAS DEALING WITH, THERE COULD BE

910
00:22:06,099 --> 00:22:10,150
SOME KID IN CLEVELAND WHERE I'M

911
00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:12,140
FROM, LISTENING AND BEING LIKE,

912
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,240
DAMN, THIS IS FINALLY SOME SHIT

913
00:22:13,259 --> 00:22:16,279
THAT I CAN DIG INTO, THAT I

914
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,059
FINALLY HEAR SOMEBODY'S VOICE

915
00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:19,200
THAT UNDERSTANDS ME AND IS

916
00:22:19,220 --> 00:22:20,279
SPEAKING FOR ME.

917
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,250
I MEAN, WHEN I WAS COMING UP, I

918
00:22:22,269 --> 00:22:26,089
WAS A FAN OF A LOT OF SHIT, BUT

919
00:22:26,109 --> 00:22:28,190
I CAN'T SAY I LISTEN TO

920
00:22:28,210 --> 00:22:30,069
SOMETHING AND LIKE, SAW MYSELF

921
00:22:30,089 --> 00:22:34,210
IN IT, YOU KNOW?

922
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:36,130
I LOVE JAY, BUT I DIDN'T SEE A

923
00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:38,099
CONNECTION WITH MY LIFE AND HIS.

924
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,089
I JUST LOOKED AT HIM AS A BIG

925
00:22:41,109 --> 00:22:43,049
BRO THAT WAS KIND OF GIVEN ME

926
00:22:43,069 --> 00:22:44,289
GAME AND SHIT, YOU KNOW?

927
00:22:45,009 --> 00:22:50,160
SAME THING WITH TUPAC

928
00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:54,289
OR BIGGIE OR NAS, YOU KNOW.

929
00:22:55,009 --> 00:22:57,279
>> I DID WANT TO ASK CHELSEA, WE

930
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,049
TALKING ABOUT THE MEDIA, THE

931
00:23:00,069 --> 00:23:00,220
BOGEYMAN, ALL THESE THINGS.

932
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,099
FOR YOU SITTING ON THE OTHER

933
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,190
SIDE OF THAT HAVE YOU FELT THE

934
00:23:04,210 --> 00:23:05,180
KIND OF SHIFT IN RESPONSIBILITY

935
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,049
OF HAVING THE MICROPHONE AND

936
00:23:07,069 --> 00:23:07,220
ASKING QUESTIONS AND DRIVING

937
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,210
THOSE CONVERSATIONS?

938
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:11,109
>> LISTEN, I'M NOT HERE TO

939
00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:12,200
ANSWER SERIOUS QUESTIONS.

940
00:23:12,220 --> 00:23:13,160
I JUST KNOW A LOT OF MEN WATCH

941
00:23:13,180 --> 00:23:14,069
THIS SHOW AND I'M LOOKING FOR

942
00:23:14,089 --> 00:23:17,160
SOME POST-COVID ACTION, SO

943
00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:17,250
THAT'S WHY.

944
00:23:17,269 --> 00:23:22,109
[LAUGHTER]

945
00:23:22,130 --> 00:23:22,289
>> WELL, THAT IS THAT IS ONE

946
00:23:23,009 --> 00:23:26,099
REASON WHY I'M HERE.

947
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,009
BUT TO ANSWER, I WANT TO SAY

948
00:23:28,029 --> 00:23:29,089
SOMETHING ABOUT NAOMI BECAUSE

949
00:23:29,109 --> 00:23:31,170
YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT HER.

950
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:32,170
AT SUCH AN ANTIQUATED NOTION.

951
00:23:32,190 --> 00:23:33,220
IT'S AN ANTIQUATED NOTION TO

952
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,029
FORCE PEOPLE TO HAVE A

953
00:23:35,049 --> 00:23:35,230
CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE THEY

954
00:23:35,250 --> 00:23:37,140
DON'T WANT TO TALK TO.

955
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,200
THEY'RE PAYING YOU AND THEN THEY

956
00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:39,269
PENALIZE YOU WHEN YOU DON'T WANT

957
00:23:39,289 --> 00:23:40,099
TO TALK TO THEM.

958
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,250
THAT IS A SYSTEM THAT NEEDS TO

959
00:23:42,269 --> 00:23:43,259
BE LOOKED AT, OBVIOUSLY.

960
00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:45,059
THEY SAY WE'RE GOING TO FIND YOU

961
00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:46,230
FOR NOT TALKING AND I HOPE YOU

962
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:47,210
FEEL BETTER.

963
00:23:47,230 --> 00:23:49,130
AS OF MENTAL ILLNESS IS A

964
00:23:49,150 --> 00:23:49,269
PERIOD.

965
00:23:49,289 --> 00:23:52,089
LIKE SHE'S GOING TO BE FINE IN A

966
00:23:52,109 --> 00:23:53,029
WEEK.

967
00:23:53,049 --> 00:23:54,079
IT'S LIKE, HELLO?

968
00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:55,289
THAT SPEAKS TO HOW OUT OF TOUCH

969
00:23:56,009 --> 00:23:56,180
THESE PATRIARCHAL SYSTEMS ARE.

970
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,140
I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE SYSTEM

971
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,099
BUT IT COULD BE UPDATED.

972
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,009
>> IN YOUR MIND, HOW SHOULD YOU

973
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:03,170
IMPROVE IT?

974
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:04,130
>> IF YOU'RE IN A SITUATION AND

975
00:24:04,150 --> 00:24:06,279
YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK SOMEONE,

976
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,039
YOUR CONTRACT SHOULDN'T OBLIGATE

977
00:24:08,059 --> 00:24:09,099
YOU TO DO SO.

978
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,140
EVEN IN MY INDUSTRY, I DO PRESS

979
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,009
BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO

980
00:24:12,029 --> 00:24:14,140
DO AND IT'S THE WAY TO KEEP

981
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,049
MOVING, IT'S, YOU'VE GOT TO DO

982
00:24:16,069 --> 00:24:16,099
IT.

983
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,140
NO ONE IS FORCING ME TO DO IT.

984
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,079
YOU COULD SAY MY CAREER DEPENDS

985
00:24:19,099 --> 00:24:20,200
ON IT, SURE, BUT NO ONE IS

986
00:24:20,220 --> 00:24:21,099
SAYING YOU BETTER DO THIS OR YOU

987
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,200
GET A FINE.

988
00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:24,200
A HUMAN BEING, AN ADULT IS

989
00:24:24,220 --> 00:24:25,170
HAVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

990
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:28,089
WE HAVE TO RESPECT THAT.

991
00:24:28,109 --> 00:24:30,059
>> YOU FEEL FOR THE 22-YEAR-OLDS

992
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:32,069
THAT ARE IN THE POSITION THAT,

993
00:24:32,089 --> 00:24:32,220
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS

994
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,140
HAPPENING IN THEIR LIFE.

995
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,099
WE ALL GO THROUGH THINGS.

996
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,089
I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS

997
00:24:36,109 --> 00:24:38,170
IN MY LATE TEENS, EARLY 20s.

998
00:24:38,190 --> 00:24:40,140
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH A

999
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,069
LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE COMING

1000
00:24:42,089 --> 00:24:43,069
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRAINING

1001
00:24:43,089 --> 00:24:44,200
GUIDE FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH WHAT

1002
00:24:44,220 --> 00:24:46,109
WAS HAPPENING IN MY LIFE, YOU

1003
00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:46,250
KNOW.

1004
00:24:46,269 --> 00:24:49,000
NOW, AS SOMEONE WHO IS TWICE HER

1005
00:24:49,019 --> 00:24:49,170
AGE, YOU HAVE COMPASSION AND

1006
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:51,180
EMPATHY FOR THAT AND THEN YOU

1007
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,200
HOPE THAT SHE CAN DEAL WITH

1008
00:24:53,220 --> 00:24:54,180
THAT, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANT

1009
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,000
THAT TO TAKE AWAY -- IF HER TRUE

1010
00:24:57,019 --> 00:24:58,000
JOY IS ACTUALLY PLAYING TENNIS,

1011
00:24:58,019 --> 00:24:58,230
YOU DON'T WANT SOMETHING LIKE

1012
00:24:58,250 --> 00:25:00,069
THAT TAKING AWAY FROM WHAT HER

1013
00:25:00,089 --> 00:25:04,250
JOY SHOULD BE.

1014
00:25:04,269 --> 00:25:06,230
AND LIKE MARSHAWN LYNCH, THAT

1015
00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:07,220
WAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING.

1016
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,089
I'M JUST HERE SO I DON'T GET

1017
00:25:08,109 --> 00:25:08,150
FINED.

1018
00:25:08,170 --> 00:25:08,289
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

1019
00:25:09,009 --> 00:25:09,190
HE PUT NO MENTAL ENERGY INTO ANY

1020
00:25:09,210 --> 00:25:10,079
QUESTION AND HE DIDN'T GET FINED

1021
00:25:10,099 --> 00:25:10,269
FOR THAT.

1022
00:25:10,289 --> 00:25:12,009
IT WAS A VERY HARD THING TO DO

1023
00:25:12,029 --> 00:25:15,099
AND THERE'S SO MANY TIMES WHERE

1024
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,220
I'M LIKE, I WISH I COULD JUST

1025
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,130
GO, JUST SO I -- I'VE SAID THAT

1026
00:25:19,150 --> 00:25:20,200
50 TIMES AND I'VE NEVER DONE IT.

1027
00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:22,269
ONE DAY I WILL DO THAT BEFORE I

1028
00:25:22,289 --> 00:25:23,039
RETIRE.

1029
00:25:23,059 --> 00:25:24,250
>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE

1030
00:25:24,269 --> 00:25:27,210
THAT FREEDOM TO JUST SAY

1031
00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:28,200
WHATEVER THE FUCK --

1032
00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:31,089
>> NO, DEFINITELY NOT.

1033
00:25:31,109 --> 00:25:32,079
BECAUSE YOU'RE IN AN ENTERPRISE

1034
00:25:32,099 --> 00:25:34,069
AND I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF THAT

1035
00:25:34,089 --> 00:25:34,160
ENTERPRISE.

1036
00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:35,079
I'M NOT MY OWN ENTREPRENEUR

1037
00:25:35,099 --> 00:25:37,019
WHERE I CAN MAKE MY OWN

1038
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:37,150
INDIVIDUAL CHOICES.

1039
00:25:37,170 --> 00:25:39,180
I'LL GET TO THAT POINT WHERE I

1040
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,059
CAN BUT YOU'RE STILL IN THE

1041
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:42,130
STRUCTURE A SYSTEM WHERE YOU

1042
00:25:42,150 --> 00:25:45,089
FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO PLAY BY,

1043
00:25:45,109 --> 00:25:47,039
AT LEAST MY OWN, I HAVE TO PLAY

1044
00:25:47,059 --> 00:25:48,069
BY THEIR RULES.

1045
00:25:48,089 --> 00:25:49,029
YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEFINITELY

1046
00:25:49,049 --> 00:25:51,069
TIMES WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO

1047
00:25:51,089 --> 00:25:51,190
PLAY BY THE RULES.

1048
00:25:51,210 --> 00:25:53,150
>> AND THAT MUST BE REALLY

1049
00:25:53,170 --> 00:25:54,019
FRUSTRATING, RIGHT?

1050
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:56,069
BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO

1051
00:25:56,089 --> 00:25:57,130
DIFFERENT ATTITUDES TOWARDS IT.

1052
00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:58,200
YOU'RE FEELING LIKE YOU HAVE TO

1053
00:25:58,220 --> 00:26:00,250
BE THE POSTER BOY AND YOU ARE

1054
00:26:00,269 --> 00:26:02,099
SAYING, FUCK THIS SHIT, I'M NOT

1055
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,009
DOWN WITH IT.

1056
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:04,069
IT MUST BE FRUSTRATING FOR BOTH

1057
00:26:04,089 --> 00:26:06,029
OF YOU FOR DIFFERENT REASONS

1058
00:26:06,049 --> 00:26:07,059
BECAUSE YOU MUST HAVE A LOT OF

1059
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:09,130
PENT UP THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE

1060
00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:10,059
TO SAY.

1061
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:10,140
[LAUGHTER]

1062
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,200
>> AND YOU'RE PROBABLY OUT OF

1063
00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:14,059
THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, YOU

1064
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:14,119
KNOW?

1065
00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:14,200
[LAUGHTER]

1066
00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:18,160
♪ ♪

1067
00:26:18,180 --> 00:26:21,079
>> HOW AND WHEN DO YOU CHOOSE TO

1068
00:26:21,099 --> 00:26:21,190
CENSOR YOURSELF?

1069
00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:23,259
>> I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE FUN OF

1070
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,220
BABIES, LET'S START THERE.

1071
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,069
THAT SEEMS PRETTY LOW.

1072
00:26:27,089 --> 00:26:27,269
ESPECIALLY UNATTRACTIVE

1073
00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:28,049
CHILDREN.

1074
00:26:28,069 --> 00:26:30,119
NO, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

1075
00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:31,000
[LAUGHTER]

1076
00:26:31,019 --> 00:26:33,140
>> MOST PEOPLE THINK THERE IS NO

1077
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,019
UNATTRACTIVE BABIES, BUT --

1078
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:34,119
>> THERE ARE.

1079
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:37,019
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THERE ARE

1080
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:37,279
AND I'M CHOOSING NOT TO MAKE FUN

1081
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,180
OF THEM.

1082
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:44,200
♪ ♪

1083
00:26:44,220 --> 00:26:58,200
♪ ♪