♪ ♪
>> THE FOLLOWING IS A
PRESENTATION OF HBO SPORTS.
>> LeBron: DID IT TAKE TIME FOR
YOU TO GET TO A POINT WHERE LIKE
YOU ALL WALK ON STAGE AND LIKE
YOU ALL WAS SO ZONED OUT THAT
YOU ALL DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY OR
LIKE...
>> Jay-Z: YOU DEFINITELY LOSE
EVERYTHING ONCE YOU GET ON
STAGE.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: IN THE BEGINNING I
USED TO GET ON STAGE AND JUST
FORGET ALL MY LYRICS.
[LAUGHTER]
I'D BE THAT GONE.
[LAUGHTER]
I'D GET ON STAGE AND BE LIKE,
WAIT A MINUTE.
[LAUGHTER]
THAT'S WHEN I TOLD DAME ONE
TIME, LIKE YO, FINISH THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
I DON'T RAP.
♪ ♪
>> Maverick: WHEN I MET JAY-Z, I
WAS A TEENAGER.
I WAS 19.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
>> Maverick: I'M 39 THIS YEAR.
WELL, I'M ALMOST SURE I WAS 19.
HE WAS 16.
>> LeBron: I WAS 16.
[LAUGHS]
>> Jay-Z: WE BONDED FAST.
LIKE, LIKE IMMEDIATELY.
LIKE, WE WERE TOGETHER LIKE ALL
THE TIME.
SPECIFICALLY I REMEMBER WE WAS
DOING -- I HAD A RECORD TEAM AND
WE WERE ON THE UM, WE WERE ON
THE BUS AND UM, YOU KNOW, SO NOW
I'D BE LIKE, YO SO YOU GOING TO
THE LEAGUE, LIKE WHAT YOU GOING,
WHAT POSITION YOU GOING TO PLAY?
HE'S LIKE GUARD.
>> Maverick: OH, THAT WAS JUAN.
>> LeBron: YEAH, JUAN WAS LIKE
HA HA, GUARD.
>> Jay-Z: IT WAS JUAN AND HE'S
LIKE HA, HA, HA, HA, YOU NOT
GOING TO MAKE IT TO HALF COURT.
>> LeBron: HE SAID YOU'RE TOO
STEADY, LOOK HOW TALL YOU ARE.
I MADE IT.
>> Jay-Z: AND HE WAS SO, HE WAS
SO STEADY ABOUT IT.
HE WAS SO CALM THAT I LOOKED AT
HIM, I WAS LIKE, OH HE, HE'S
BEEN -- HE ASKED THIS QUESTION
BEFORE OR HE GOT SO MUCH
CONFIDENCE THAT, BECAUSE HE
WASN'T RATTLED AT ALL.
HE'S JUST LIKE, WE WERE
LAUGHING.
LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE
IT PAST HALF, YOU'RE NOT.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE.
>> Jay-Z: YOU MEAN, YOU A, YOU
A, YOU A POWER FORWARD.
>> LeBron: AND I'VE HAD ENOUGH
NEW YORK FRIENDS OVER MY LIFE
THAT I KNOW IF YOU DON'T GET
RATTLED AROUND THEM THEN YOU CAN
ACTUALLY BECOME SUCCESSFUL.
>> Paul: I FEEL LIKE CONFIDENCE
IS LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST
THINGS YOU HAVE.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE TRULY
YOU'RE THE GREATEST RAPPER LIKE
WHILE YOU'RE IN IT.
YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE YOU'RE THE
GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER.
HAVE TO BELIEVE YOU'RE THE
GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER.
LIKE, EVEN YOUR CONFIDENCE, LIKE
I WASN'T SURE HOW YOU WERE GOING
TO SHOW UP TODAY.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE YELLOW
HAIR, GLASSES.
[LAUGHS]
>> Paul: LIKE, WHERE'S THE
CONFIDENCE COME FROM TO JUST BE
YOU AND DO YOUR THING?
>> Bad Bunny: FOR ME, I DON'T
KNOW HOW TO SAY LIKE --
[SPEAKING SPANISH].
SO, IT'S LIKE BEING HERE GIVE ME
THE POWER OR, OR THE CONFIDENCE
TO BE LIKE WHO I AM.
I DON'T CARE, LIKE --
>> Paul: SO YOU WERE SAYING
THERE WAS THINGS LIKE MAYBE WHEN
HE WAS A KID THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE
THE CONFIDENCE TO DO.
>> Bad Bunny: YEAH.
>> Paul: BUT NOW HAVING THE
PLATFORM HE FEELS.
>> Bad Bunny: BECAUSE I'M A SHY
PERSON.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M SO --
[SPEAKING SPANISH].
[LAUGHS]
>> Paul: YOU SAID I'M SHY BUT
I'M ALSO A MOTHERFUCKER.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: PART OF BEING
CONFIDENCE IS TAKING CHANCES AND
BEING FEARLESS, RIGHT?
AND THAT'S WHAT HE IS.
FEARLESS.
LIKE, WHEN YOU SAY YOU AIN'T
KNOW HOW HE WAS GOING TO SHOW
UP, HOW, IT'S JUST LIKE HIM ON
DISPLAY, LIKE HIS CONFIDENCE AND
HIS -- HIS THING TO TAKE CHANCES
AND BE LIKE THIS IS HOW I FEEL
TODAY, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO
WEAR, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO
WRITE, I WANT TO SHOOT FROM 40
FEET TODAY.
LIKE, I HAVE THE, IT TAKES
CONFIDENCE TO SHOOT FROM 40
FEET.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: FOR SURE.
>> Jay-Z: YOU SHOOT AN AIR BALL
FROM 40 FEET.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE?
EVEN IN AN EMPTY ARENA.
>> LeBron: YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: THAT'S EMBARRASSING,
THAT'S, THAT'S EMBARRASSING, YOU
KNOW.
>> Paul: JAY DID YOU EVER LIKE,
LIKE AN AH HA MOMENT OR LIKE OH
THE GAME'S IN TROUBLE.
>> Jay-Z: I HAD A FOOLISH
CONFIDENCE LIKE EARLY ON.
IT'S LIKE UH, I REMEMBER PLAYING
LIKE, I HAD MY FIRST DEMO, LIKE
WHEN I FIRST SAID, OH I KNOW HOW
TO MAKE SONGS.
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE SONGS.
I THOUGHT AT THE TIME.
AND I PLAYED IT FOR MY UNCLE AND
I WAS LIKE, YO I'M BETTER THAN
LL COOL J.
[LAUGHS]
AND HE'S, GET THE FUCK OUT OF
HERE.
[LAUGHTER]
MY UNCLE'S LIKE REAL, LIKE GET
THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, YOU AIN'T
BETTER THAN NO FUCKING LL COOL
J.
I WAS, I WAS HURT.
LIKE, I WAS LIKE SHIT, LIKE HE
WAS, DAMN.
HIS DAMN NEAR DAMAGED ME.
>> LeBron: I THOUGHT YOU LOVED
ME.
[LAUGHS]
>> Jay-Z: RIGHT.
BUT I SURVIVED THAT.
AND ONCE I KNEW THAT WAS LIKE,
SO I, I KIND OF CAME IN UM, YOU
KNOW, IF YOU LISTEN, WHO'S THE
BEST MC, BIGGIE, JAY-Z AND NAS.
LIKE, THOSE WAS THE GUYS AT THE
TIME, YOU KNOW --
AND, AND I, I BELIEVED THAT I
WAS ON THEIR LEVEL AT THAT TIME,
YOU KNOW, MY FIRST ALBUM.
SO, I'VE ALWAYS HAD CONFIDENCE
AND I ALWAYS KNEW THAT, THAT I
WAS GOING TO EXCEL LIKE BEYOND
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU STILL GOT TO
DO IT.
YOU COULD BELIEVE IT.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
YOU STILL GOT TO DO IT.
>> Jay-Z: YOU -- YOU CAN HAVE
THE BELIEF AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST
SECOND NATURE.
>> Maverick: FOR SURE, YOU DON'T
EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.
BY THE WAY, NNEKA, WAS IT TO BE
IN "SPACE JAM," WAS IT SETTLED
INTO YOU LIKE YOU REALLY --
>> Nneka: YEAH, I WAS JUST
TALKING TO BRON ABOUT IT.
I WAS LIKE IT'S STILL, IT'S
STILL HASN'T QUITE HIT, YOU
KNOW.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A
MOVIE THAT YOU GREW UP
WATCHING, YOU KNOW.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE.
>> Nneka: AND THEN FOR US TO
HAVE A NEW LEGACY WITH IT UM,
AND THEN TO YOU KNOW, LIKE
BRINGING IN WOMEN BASKETBALL
PLAYERS, LIKE THAT'S HUGE, YOU
KNOW?
SO, FOR US TO BE APART OF THAT
WITH GREATS LIKE OBVIOUSLY
LeBron AND EVERYONE ELSE IN IT,
IT'S, IT, IT JUST FEELS, WE FEEL
SEEN, YOU KNOW.
>> Maverick: YEAH, OF COURSE.
>> Nneka: YEAH, WE FEEL SEEN.
AND THEN UM, TO BE APART OF THAT
LEGACY YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF
THE DAY LIKE YOU KNOW, I WAS A
VILLAIN IN A MOVIE, YOU KNOW.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Nneka: LIKE, YOU KNOW.
>> Maverick: FOR SURE, YOU
FOREVER WILL, THAT'S A DOPE
PART.
>> Nneka: YEAH.
>> Maverick: THOSE POSTERS, THAT
MOVIE EXISTS FOREVER.
>> LeBron: FOREVER.
>> Nneka: FOREVER.
>> LeBron: FOREVER.
>> Maverick: THAT'S --
>> Nneka: YEAH, YEAH.
AND WHAT I, I THINK FOR ME
PERSONALLY LIKE WHAT I REALLY
LOVE ABOUT IT TOO IS LIKE WITH
ARACHNNEKA, LIKE I HAVE, I'M
NIGERIAN AMERICAN.
SO, LIKE THE FACT THAT MY NAME
IS IN IT LIKE, I MEAN, THAT
REACHES PAST JUST ME, MY FAMILY,
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT CAN SEE
THAT AND IDENTIFY WITH THAT.
>> Maverick: OF COURSE.
>> Nneka: I THINK IS MAJOR.
AND THEN I WAS ALSO REALLY
PUMPED THAT YOU GUYS KEPT MY
HAIR THE WAY IT WAS.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Nneka: THAT WAS PRETTY COOL
TOO.
>> Nneka: BUT, YEAH.
>> Maverick: FOR SURE, WE HAD
TO.
WE HAD TO.
>> Nneka: YEAH.
>> Maverick: IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE
THIS MOVIE LIKE IF YOU GO BACK
AND WATCH THE ORIGINAL, IT
WASN'T JUST ABOUT THE MOVIE, THE
SOUNDTRACK, EVERYTHING
OBVIOUSLY.
YOU WROTE THE LYRICS --
[LAUGHS]
JAY WROTE THE LYRICS FOR BUGS ON
THAT.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
>> Maverick: DO YOU REMEMBER
DOING THAT BY THE WAY?
>> Jay-Z: YEAH, DEFINITELY,
YEAH.
>> Maverick: DO YOU REMEMBER?
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
>> Maverick: I MEAN --
>> Jay-Z: I WAS IN SONY STUDIOS.
>> Maverick: REALLY.
>> Jay-Z: ACTING LIKE A RABBIT.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: HOW DO YOU, WHEN
YOU WRITE FOR OTHER PEOPLE, I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO IT ANYMORE,
BUT WHEN YOU USED TO DO IT, HOW
DO YOU GET LIKE STILL D.R.E.
IS ONE OF THE GREATEST WRITTEN
SONGS EVER, NOT RAP.
BUT YOU ACTUALLY WRITE IT
EXACTLY HOW DRE WOULD SPEAK.
HOW DO YOU CHANNEL, BECAUSE YOU
HAVE TO BE THAT CHARACTER TO
WRITE FOR THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN?
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
YEAH.
BUT ON THAT REFERENCE TRACK I'M
DOING DRE AND SNOOP'S, BOTH OF
LIKE, THEY'RE LIKE.
>> Maverick: WOW.
>> Bad Bunny: WOW.
>> Nneka: WHOA.
[LAUGHS]
>> Bad Bunny: WOW.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
[RAPS]
STILL.
THEY'RE BOTH, THE, THE REFERENCE
TRACK, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEM.
THE FOXY REFERENCE I'M GLAD
NOBODY COULD --
[LAUGHTER]
BUT UM, YEAH, BUT YOU GOT TO
HAVE A SOMEWHAT LIKE A, A
REVERENCE FOR THEM.
LIKE OBVIOUSLY LIKE YOU KNOW,
THE MUSIC THEY WERE MAKING AND
THE CHRONIC AND ALL THAT, YOU
KNOW.
IN, IN ORDER FOR ME TO LIKE
REALLY LIKE NAIL, GET THE
ESSENCE OF DRE AND SNOOP HAD TO
BE LIKE A, A STUDY REVERENCE OF
YOU KNOW --
>> LeBron: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
TO SAY LIKE EVEN PUT MYSELF IN
THEIR SHOES.
THINK ABOUT THAT RECORD.
SO, THAT RECORD CAME AFTER
DRE LEAVES DEATH ROW.
>> Maverick: IT'S ALL ABOUT
REMINDING PEOPLE.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
HOW, MY LAST ALBUM WAS THE
CHRONIC.
>> Maverick: THAT'S ONE OF THE
BEST LINES IN HIP HOP.
JUST THE SARCASM.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
>> Paul: BUT JAY, TALKING ABOUT
WRITING FOR PEOPLE, I WANT TO GO
BACK TO THE BUGS THING FOR A
SECOND.
LIKE, YOU'RE A KID FROM MARCY,
IN THAT MOMENT DID IT FEEL
SURREAL OR BIG TO YOU, LIKE I'M
WRITING FOR BUGS BUNNY, LIKE DID
IT FEEL BIG?
OR WAS IT JUST --
>> Jay-Z: YEAH, IT WAS TOO
EARLY, IT WAS TOO EARLY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THOSE EARLY
DAYS, LIKE AND I'M SURE YOU
RELATE TO THAT.
THOSE EARLY DAYS EVERYTHING IS
JUST A BLUR.
>> Paul: GOT YOU.
>> Jay-Z: YOU JUST DOING THINGS
AND YOU'RE NOT REALLY THINKING
ABOUT THE LEGACY OF IT.
>> Paul: GOT YOU.
>> Jay-Z: IT AIN'T UNTIL LATER
ON YOU START LIKE REALLY LIKE
GETTING INTO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF
WHAT IT MEANS.
>> Paul: AT THE TIME YOU WERE
JUST WORKING.
>> Jay-Z: TO ME IT WAS JUST LIKE
WRITE A SONG FOR BUGS BUNNY AND
--
[LAUGHS]
>> Maverick:
KEEP GOING.
>> Jay-Z: THAT'S STRANGE THAT
YOU, BAD BUNNY AND BUGS.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Paul: BAD BUNNY, WHO'S A
WRESTLER.
>> Maverick: THAT'S RIGHT.
[LAUGHTER]
OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Paul: LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT A
LITTLE BIT.
[LAUGHS]
>> Maverick: THAT'S RIGHT.
BUNNY, BUNNY, WAIT, IS IT REAL
OR IS IT FAKE?
>> Bad Bunny: IT'S REAL.
[LAUGHTER]
IT'S 100 PERCENT, PERCENT REAL.
NO, IT'S, IT'S INSANE THE, THE,
THE WORK.
WHEN IT WAS LIKE LEARNING THE
FIRST, THE, THE FIRST DAYS THEY,
THEY ARE LIKE, TEACH ME LIKE
HOW TO FALL, LIKE THE BUMPS.
>> Maverick: OH, YEAH.
>> Bad Bunny: THE BUMPS.
SO, YOU LIKE, YOU, YOU HAVE TO,
TO DO LIKE --
>> Maverick: OH.
>> Nneka: OH, WOW.
>> Maverick: YOU LOOK LIKE YOU
FELL.
>> Bad Bunny: YOU SET UP
YOURSELF AND FALL.
>> LeBron: OH, SOME MOVIE SHIT.
>> Bad Bunny: LIKE --
[LAUGHS]
>> Bad Bunny: I -- I SAY LIKE
HOW THESE PEOPLE CAN DO THESE
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.
TRAINING 30 YEARS LIKE THE
UNDERTAKER, TRIPLE H, LIKE.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
>> Bad Bunny: SO MANY YEARS, YOU
KNOW, RECEIVING THAT PAIN,
IT'S CRAZY.
IT'S CRAZY BUT I, I LOVE IT.
>> Maverick: WHERE DID THE LOVE
COME FROM?
>> Bad Bunny: I DON'T KNOW.
FROM KID.
SINCE I WAS KID I, I ALWAYS.
>> Maverick: I LOVED IT AS A KID
TOO.
>> Bad Bunny: YEAH.
I -- I -- I USED TO, TO WATCH
WITH MY, MY DAD, MY FRIENDS,
BROTHER.
>> LeBron: NO, I DID TOO.
I WAS HEAVY IN WRESTLING.
>> Bad Bunny: SO, IT WAS LIKE A
DREAM.
I NEVER -- I NEVER.
>> LeBron: I WAS HEAVY.
>> Bad Bunny: THAT'S ALL THEIR
ARE LIKE THAT.
WELL, WHY HERE?
>> Jay-Z: DEFINITELY BIGGER
THAN, DEFINITELY BIGGER THAN THE
SUPER BOWL.
[LAUGHTER]
>> LeBron: WRESTLEMANIA, YEAH.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
>> Bad Bunny: FOR ME, FOR ME,
YEAH IT'S BIGGER, YEAH.
>> LeBron: WRESTLEMANIA.
>> Bad Bunny: MORE THAN THE
GRAMMYS, LIKE THAT'S WAS THE
BEST MOMENT OF MY LIFE.
>> Maverick: HOW LONG DID YOU
PRACTICE TO GET READY FOR IT?
>> Bad Bunny: LIKE TWO MONTHS.
I -- I -- YEAH.
>> Maverick: OH SHIT, YOU PUT
THE REAL WORK IN.
>> Bad Bunny: I MOVED TO ORLANDO
THREE MONTHS, LIKE TRAINING
EVERYDAY, EVERYDAY, EVERYDAY.
I'M NOT RECORD ANY SONG.
I DIDN'T -- ANYTHING ABOUT
MUSIC.
>> Maverick: HE MOVED TO
ORLANDO.
>> Paul: PUT HIS CAREER ON HOLD.
>> Maverick: I DON'T WANT TO
VISIT ORLANDO.
[LAUGHTER]
>> LeBron: RIGHT.
>> Maverick: HE MOVED THERE.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE
REASON I HAVEN'T TOOK, TAKEN MY,
MY, MY DAUGHTER TO DISNEY WORLD.
[LAUGHTER]
I HAD TO GO TO, YOU GOT TO
UNDERSTAND, ANYTIME I HEAR
ORLANDO RIGHT NOW I GET, I
GET PTSD.
I WAS IN A BUBBLE.
>> Paul: BUBBLE, IN A BUBBLE,
YES.
>> LeBron: FOR 95 --
>> Maverick: WAIT, SO ORLANDO,
ORLANDO HAS NO CHANCE OF FREE
AGENCY.
>> LeBron: THEY HAVE NO CHANCE.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: WHAT IF YOU GET
TRADED TO ORLANDO?
>> LeBron: I'M NOT GOING.
>> Maverick: I'M JUST RETIRING.
>> LeBron: I'LL JUST RETIRE AND
IT'S OVER WITH.
[LAUGHTER]
>> LeBron: YEAH.
LeBron HAS BEEN TRADED TO
ORLANDO.
LeBron LIVES IN MALIBU.
[LAUGHTER]
HE'S NOT GOING.
>> Maverick: WHAT DID YOU MEAN
BY THE 100 PERCENT THING?
I THINK I TOOK IT AS YOU JUST
LIKE YOU ALWAYS --
>> LeBron: YEAH, ONCE YOU START.
>> Maverick: YOU ALWAYS PLAYING
AND YOU --
>> LeBron: NO, NO.
ONCE YOU -- PEOPLE ARE SO LIKE
--
>> Maverick: LITERAL OR
WHATEVER.
>> LeBron: YEAH, THEY'RE SO
LITERAL.
IT'S SO RIDICULOUS.
ONCE YOU START PLAYING IN THE
PROFESSIONAL YOU'RE AT 99.9.
>> Maverick: YEAH, YOU NEVER,
YEAH.
>> LeBron: OKAY?
LIKE, YOU'RE 100.
AS SOON AS YOU STEP OUR FOR
TRAINING CAMP YOUR ROOKIE YEAR
YOU AT 99.9.
[LAUGHS]
>> LeBron: SO, WHEN THEY ASKED
ME I ASK LIKE I'LL NEVER GET
BACK TO 100 AGAIN.
I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 18 YEARS.
>> Maverick: YEAH, EXACTLY.
>> LeBron: NOW, 99.9.
>> Maverick: YOU CAN GET BACK
THERE?
>> LeBron: OH, FOR SURE.
>> Nneka: I LIKE THAT.
>> Maverick: HOW YOU --
>> LeBron: FOR SURE.
>> Nneka: NO, I LIKE THAT.
HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
>> LeBron: YEAH, YOU CAN'T.
LIKE, WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE
TIME.
WE'LL GO TO SLEEP 100 PERCENT
HEALTHY AND WE'LL WAKE UP AND
STEP OUT OF BED AND BE LIKE --
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW
WHEN YOU'RE GETTING OLD, MAN.
>> LeBron: YOU START LOOKING
NEXT AND YOU'RE LIKE WHAT'D YOU
DO TO ME LAST NIGHT?
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: I WENT TO BED
HEALTHY.
>> Jay-Z: ONE THING BEEN HURTING
TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW.
[LAUGHTER]
I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN DO NOTHING.
>> LeBron: THAT'S WHAT I'M
SAYING.
>> Nneka: YEAH.
>> LeBron: I WILL WAKE UP AND BE
LIKE OH, MY GOD.
>> Maverick: WITH A SPRAINED
ANKLE --
>> LeBron: WHAT THE HELL DID I
DO LAST NIGHT?
I DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
>> Nneka: NOTHING.
>> LeBron: I GOT MY EIGHT HOURS
OF SLEEP.
>> Nneka: IT'S JUST WHAT
HAPPENS.
>> LeBron: I ATE -- I ATE FISH
AND VEGGIES LAST NIGHT, A GALLON
OF WATER AND I WOKE UP AND MY
NECK WAS, LIKE WHAT THE FUCK?
>> Jay-Z: I THINK EVERY ATHLETE
EVERY, OR ANYBODY THAT'S
PERFORM KNEW EXACTLY WHAT YOU
MEANT.
LIKE, YOU JUST, IT'S JUST,
THAT'S JUST LIKE SAYING YOU
GOING TO BE SEVEN AGAIN.
>> Maverick: EXACTLY.
>> Nneka: RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: YOU NEVER GOING TO BE
SEVEN AGAIN.
>> Maverick: NO.
>> Nneka: RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: IT'S JUST LIKE AS YOU
MATURE YOU GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO USE YOUR MIND AND YOUR BODY.
>> Nneka: WHEN YOU GET OLDER TOO
I THINK LIKE SO YOU GO FROM A TO
B, YOU KNOW.
AND LIKE WHEN YOU'RE 20 YOU
KNOW, YOU KNOW ONE WAY TO GET
THERE, FAST.
AND YOU KNOW, QUICK.
BUT THEN LIKE WHEN YOU GET 30,
40, 50 YOU, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET
TO A TO B, BUT YOU NOW KNOW HOW
TO DO IT DIFFERENT WAYS, YOU
KNOW.
LIKE, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS OF
DOING IT.
SO, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW I
FEEL LIKE WHEN I'M ON THE COURT.
IT'S LIKE YEAH, I KNOW WHAT I'M
CAPABLE OF DOING.
I KNOW LIKE WHAT FEELS LIKE MY
FOUNDATION.
BUT LIKE DO I NEED TO RUN AROUND
AND CHASE THIS LITTLE KID?
[LAUGHS]
>> Nneka: NO.
I DON'T NEED TO.
>> LeBron: RIGHT.
>> Nneka: I LOVE PLAYING
BASKETBALL, BUT I MEAN, WE KNOW
WE CAN'T DO THAT FOREVER.
I MEAN --
[LAUGHTER]
MAYBE WE CAN.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: DID YOU EVER THINK
YOU'D STILL BE PLAYING BALL YOU
ABOUT TO BE 37?
>> LeBron: NO BECAUSE WHEN I
CAME IN LIKE THE, THE NBA LIKE
PROJECTION OF -- OF -- OF LIFE
EXPECTANCY WAS LIKE FOUR AND A
HALF YEARS.
I DEFINITELY THOUGHT I'D BE
PLAYING MORE THAN, THAN 22 YEARS
OF AGE, BUT --
>> Maverick: BUT YOU DEFINITELY
THINK ABOUT NOW HOW MUCH, YOU
DEFINITELY CONTEMPLATE HOW MUCH
LONGER, NOT SAYING YOU DON'T
KNOW.
>> LeBron: YEAH, HOW MUCH
LONGER, YEAH, YEAH, FOR SURE.
I'M DEFINITELY ON THE, I'M
DEFINITELY YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW,
YOUR ROLLER COASTER, I'M
DEFINITELY NOW GOING DOWN THIS
WAY INSTEAD I'M NOT TRAJECTING
THIS WAY.
>> Maverick: HOW CRAZY, DO YOU
THINK?
AS YOU GET OLDER YOU ALSO LEARN
TO USE YOUR INFLUENCE.
NNEKA, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DONE IT
NOW THIS YEAR.
DID YOU THINK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE
THING THAT YOU DO OR WERE YOU
JUST GOING FOR IT?
>> Nneka: UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK
LIKE TO GET HERE NOW I DO THINK
ABOUT IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, QUITE HONESTLY
LIKE IN THE BEGINNING IT TOOK A
LOT OF LIKE SAYING YES TO A LOT
OF STUFF AND KIND OF GETTING OUT
OF MY COMFORT ZONE.
AND SO LIKE FROM THEN ON I'VE
JUST KIND OF, I JUST FILL OUT
WHAT I DO.
LIKE, A LOT OF WHAT I DO IS LIKE
AUTHENTIC TO ME.
LIKE, I DON'T THINK I'M EVER
GOING TO ENTER A SPACE WHERE
LIKE I'M ENDORSING SOMETHING
THAT I DON'T USE AT HOME, YOU
KNOW.
I'M NOT GOING TO ENTER A SPACE
WHERE I'M WITH PEOPLE THAT I
DON'T FEEL LIKE I ALIGN WITH.
>> Maverick: YOU THINK ABOUT
ROOKIES COME INTO THE WNBA.
>> Nneka: YEAH.
>> Maverick: THE MEDIA WANTS TO
HEAR WHAT THEIR OPINION IS ON
EQUAL PAY.
>> Nneka: YEAH.
>> Maverick: FOR WOMEN AND LIKE
--
>> Nneka: YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A
LOT, YOU KNOW.
AND I MEAN, I GUESS WE KIND OF
LIKE SORT OF TAKE BLAME FOR THAT
BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW, THE, THE
VETS THAT ARE IN NOW.
LIKE, WE FORMULATED A COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT REALLY
REFLECTS WHERE WE WANT TO SEE
THE LEAGUE GOING.
AND WE DID IT WITH THESE KIDS
COMING IN IN MIND.
BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO IN A, IN A
TIME NOW WHERE LIKE NOW YOU HAVE
THESE KIDS WITH FOLLOWING THAT
ARE COMING IN AND IT'S JUST LIKE
YOU WANT THEM TO BE PREPARED.
YOU WANT THEM TO BE THEMSELVES.
BUT THEN YOU ALSO WANT TO GROW
THE LEAGUE AND SO THERE'S LIKE
AN INTERSECTIONALITY OF ALL OF
THAT WITH UM, YOU KNOW, THEM
JUST TRYING TO BE APART OF IT,
YOU KNOW.
>> Jay-Z: IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TOOL.
AND LIKE LOOK AT ALL THE
ADVANCEMENTS AND ALL THE THINGS
THAT IT BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT
NEED TO HAPPEN.
LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED
FROM GEORGE FLOYD, ARAB SPRINGS,
LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPEN IS
A BEAUTIFUL POWERFUL TOOL FOR,
FOR US TO USE, BUT IT ALSO COMES
WITH A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, ROOKIES AND
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT
EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH THAT.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GREAT
SUPPORT SYSTEM AROUND YOU,
RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU
AIN'T GOING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT
BY YOURSELF.
SOMETIMES YOU NEED RESPECT AND
YOU NEED TO STEP AWAY FROM
YOURSELF.
AND YOU GOT TO BE, YOU GOT TO BE
COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING MISTAKES
BECAUSE YOU GOING TO MAKE A
MISTAKE.
YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING, AND IF
YOU'RE ON 24 HOURS A DAY,
IF YOU ON, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE
A LOT OF MISTAKES.
AND YOU JUST GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE
AROUND YOU TO BE LIKE HEY, HEY,
CALL THAT PHONE LIKE YOU OFF TEN
AND TWO.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU TRIPPING A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW, PULL IT BACK A LITTLE
BIT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> Maverick: AND BUNNY, YOU
THINK ABOUT YOUR CAREER, YOU'VE
USED IT BEAUTIFULLY, LIKE
STARTED YOUR CAREER ON
SOUNDCLOUD AND USED SOCIAL TO
HELP PROPEL YOUR CAREER INTO
MUSIC, RIGHT?
>> Bad Bunny:[SPEAKING SPANISH].
>> Paul: HE'S SAYING THERE'S A
LOT OF PRESSURE.
>> Bad Bunny: YEAH.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Paul: A LOT OF PRESSURE WITH
SOCIAL.
>> Maverick: WHEN HE DID HIS
HEAD LIKE THAT I KNEW.
>> Paul: YEAH.
>> Maverick: WHEN HE DID THIS --
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: WE WAS HOPING IT'S
PRESSURE.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: ANYTHING AFTER THAT IT
WAS LIKE --
[LAUGHTER]
>> Bad Bunny: THAT'S PRESSURE
ISN'T FAIR BECAUSE I DO WHAT I
DO BECAUSE I LOVE IT.
AND BEFORE START I DIDN'T
KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE
THAT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I LOOK
AT MY [SPEAKING SPANISH].
>> Paul: IT'S -- IT'S WHAT MADE
HIS CAREER.
>> Maverick: YEAH, EXACTLY.
>> Paul: SO, HE CAN'T RUN --
>> Nneka: YEAH.
>> LeBron: ONE THING THEY DON'T
TELL YOU, ONE THING THEY DON'T
TELL YOU IS THEY DON'T GIVE YOU
A, A GUIDE OR A BOOK TO ONCE YOU
BECOME WHAT YOU WANTED TO BECOME
WHAT COMES WITH IT.
YOU GOT TO GO -- LISTEN.
>> Maverick: BECAUSE IT'S WHAT
YOU, IT'S A BIG PART OF YOUR --
>> LeBron: IT'S A ROAD TRAVELED
ALONE.
HOW ABOUT THAT?
I WILL SAY THAT.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU GOT A, A GROUP
OF PEOPLE AND A SUPPORT SYSTEM
AROUND YOU THAT CAN HELP STIR
YOU WHILE YOU'RE TRAVELING THAT
ROAD, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO TRAVEL
THAT ROAD ALONE BECAUSE YOU'RE,
YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S IN
THAT SEAT.
YOU'RE DRIVING THAT CAR.
>> Nneka: RIGHT, RIGHT.
>> LeBron: WE'RE THE ONLY ONES
DRIVING THAT CAR.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT YOU GOT
SOMEONE IN THE PASSENGER SEAT,
COUPLE IN THE BACK THAT'S LIKE,
HEY, HEY, YOU'RE VEERING OFF A
LITTLE BIT NOW, GO IN, YEAH, GO
AHEAD AND GET BACK AND HEY.
[LAUGHTER]
MOTHERFUCKER YOU, HEY, HEY, HEY.
YEAH.
I'M TELLING YOU.
>> Maverick: AND BY THE WAY
SOMETIMES THE CONVERSATION IS,
AWW NIGGA, FUCK YOU.
[LAUGHTER]
AND SOMETIMES LIKE YEAH AND THEN
THEY CALL BACK YEAH, AH MAYBE
YOU WERE RIGHT.
THEY CALL BACK YEAH, AH MAYBE
YOU WERE RIGHT.
>> LeBron: YEAH, YOU RIGHT.
OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: OKAY, YEAH, YOU BE
LIKE YOU KNOW THAT THING YOU WAS
TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT THING?
YOU KNOW THE THING.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: BY THE WAY, WHEN
YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO YOUR
OLD STUFF HOW DOES IT, HOW DOES
IT MAKE YOU FEEL?
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT GUY, DO YOU
LIKE --
>> Jay-Z: I CAN HEAR THE TONE.
I -- I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I WAS
ON MY SECOND ALBUM.
AND LIKE "VOLUME ONE."
FIRST OF ALL, I'M COMING
STRAIGHT FROM, FROM OUT OF THE
STREETS, EVERYBODY, EVERY RAPPER
SAYS THAT.
BUT I'M COMING LIKE, I'M FRESH
OUT THE STREETS AND LIKE THE
WHOLE WORLD CHANGED AROUND ME.
THEY SAID HOV, YOU CAN'T GO BACK
HOME.
YOU KNOW WHEN I HEARD THAT?
I WAS HOME.
>> Maverick: HOME, YEAH,
EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
>> Jay-Z: THEY LIKE YEAH, YOU
CAN'T COME AROUND THE WAY WHILE
I WAS AROUND THE WAY.
>> Maverick: WHILE I'M HERE.
THEY TELL YOU WHILE YOU'RE
THERE, YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: YOU KNOW, SO AND THE
STREETS IS WATCHING IT THAT,
THAT, I HAD A BULLET PROOF VEST
AND A ROLLIE ON.
>> Maverick: EXACTLY.
[LAUGHS]
>> Jay-Z: IT WAS REAL.
THAT WASN'T LIKE A, A PHOTO
SHOOT.
I HAD THAT ON ALL DAY.
[LAUGHTER]
LIKE YO, THIS LOOK HOT, LET'S
DO, LET'S SHOOT THE PHOTO.
[LAUGHTER]
IT HAPPENED THE OTHER WAY.
IT WAS LIKE --
>> Maverick: YEAH, RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: I WAS IN A REAL WAR
AND HAD AN ALBUM OUT, YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING?
BUT EVERYTHING IS INSPIRATION.
EVERYTHING.
YOU CAN.
I CAN DRAW A TREE EXACTLY WHERE,
WHERE I COME FROM.
IT'S BIG DADDY KANE AND RAKIM.
EVERYBODY'S INSPIRED BY SOMEONE.
>> Maverick: FOR SURE.
>> Jay-Z: I COULD TELL YOU THAT
THAT BASQUIAT PAINTING CAME FROM
THAT PICASSO PAINTING.
>> Maverick: EXACTLY.
>> Jay-Z: WHICH CAME FROM THAT,
THAT AFRICAN MASK.
>> Maverick: 100 PERCENT.
>> Jay-Z: ALL THOSE.
BUT ALL THOSE PICASSO PAINTINGS
CAME FROM AFRICAN MASKS.
>> Maverick: FROM AFRICAN MASKS.
>> Jay-Z: DID HE STEAL IT, YOU
KNOW?
WAS HE INSPIRED BY IT?
YEAH.
>> Maverick: ABSOLUTELY.
>> Jay-Z: BUT WE ALL INSPIRED.
WE'RE ALL ARTISTS.
WE ALL -- I CAN TELL YOU THAT
THE MOVE THAT, THAT BRON
DOES THAT'S DIRECTLY FROM MJ BUT
MJ GOT FROM DR. J.
>> Maverick: THAT'S FUNNY
BECAUSE -- AND THEN THAT WORKS.
IT CAN WORK IN REVERSE.
LIKE YOU WATCH BASKETBALL TODAY.
NOW YOUNGER GUYS, THEY INFLUENCE
YOU SOME TOO.
YOU SHOOT.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
>> Maverick: AND PLAY AND MAKE
MOVES THAT YOU SAW YOUNGER GUYS
DO, RIGHT?
>> LeBron: YEAH, THERE WAS NO
EURO STEPPING WHEN I CAME IN THE
LEAGUE.
>> Maverick: EURO STEPPING OR
THE SIDE STEP THREE.
>> LeBron: NO EURO STEPPING, NO
SIDE BACK, NO, NO STEP BACKS,
NO...
>> Maverick: AND NOW YOU DO IT
ALL THE TIME.
>> LeBron: YEAH, YOU HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE A GROWTH
MINDSET AS WELL TOO.
>> Jay-Z: THAT'S RIGHT.
>> LeBron: YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING?
LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU KEEP YOUR
INTEGRITY, YOU KEEP YOUR
IDENTITY.
LIKE, I'M STILL WHO I AM, BUT
YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO...
>> Maverick: EVOLVE.
>> LeBron: EVOLVE.
YOU KNOW, HAVE A GROWTH MINDSET.
>> Paul: I KNEW IF THERE WAS
ONLY ONE THING I SAID OR ASKED
ON THIS SHOW WAS GOING TO BE
THIS, WHAT IS YOUR BEST ALBUM?
>> Jay-Z: SHEESH.
TWO -- TWO ALBUMS FOR ME LIKE
FIGHT ALL THE TIME AND I LIKE
THINK ABOUT IT AND I LIKE GO
BACK AND FORTH WITH.
YOU KNOW, "REASONABLE DOUBT" IS
LIKE TECHNICALLY I THINK IS
SUPERIOR TO "BLUEPRINT."
LIKE, LIKE SOME OF THE WRITING
WITH "BLUEPRINT" WAS JUST LIKE
SUCH A WELL -- IT WAS JUST A
VIBE.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: IT'S LIKE ONE OF THOSE
THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T RECREATE.
I'M -- I MADE NINE SONGS THAT
WAS ON THE ALBUM WITH, IN THE
WEEKEND.
>> LeBron: YOU WERE JUST SO IN
IT.
>> Jay-Z: I REMEMBER UH, MY UH,
MY --
>> LeBron: MATRIX, HE WAS JUST
IN IT.
>> Jay-Z: JUAN -- WENT TO MIAMI
AND HE CAME BACK.
HE WENT TO MIAMI FOR THE WEEKEND
AND CAME BACK, WHAT THE FUCK
HAPPENED?
[LAUGHTER]
HE MISSED THE WHOLE PROCESS.
HOW'D I MISS THIS?
[LAUGHTER]
>> Maverick: JAY, YOUR LAST
ALBUM WAS VERY -- I MEAN, ALL
YOUR SONGS ARE VERY PERSONAL,
BUT THAT ONE WAS EVEN MORE
PERSONAL.
HOW?
LIKE, GOING THROUGH WRITING
THAT, HOW DID YOU CHOOSE WHAT
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS,
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT?
>> Jay-Z: I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE
LISTEN TO THAT ALBUM AS A WHOLE
STILL.
IT'S A LOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN?
IT'S, IT'S A LOT TO YOU KNOW,
BUT IT HAD TO BE DONE.
IT WAS LIKE A, A EVOLUTION OF
ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN
THROUGH AND ALL THE LIKE, YOU
KNOW, LIKE YOU KNOW, HEALING.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT
TO WRITE.
>> Maverick: TO REVEAL IT WAS
HEALING.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH, AND IT WAS.
YEAH, DEFINITELY.
YEAH.
>> Paul: IS THAT SCARY JAY TO
LIKE BE THAT PERSONAL?
>> Jay-Z: OH YEAH, THE MOST, THE
MOST, YEAH.
IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW, TO BE
VULNERABLE IN THAT SPACE YOU
KNOW, AFTER YOU'VE DONE ALL THIS
WORK.
>> Maverick: RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO,
RIGHT?
YOUR EGO WOULD TELL YOU I DON'T,
I DON'T GOT TO DO THAT.
[LAUGHS]
>> Maverick: RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: YOU KNOW, BUT THEN YOU
KNOW, NO ONE ELSE HEALS.
SO MANY SUPER GANGSTERS AND
RAPPERS COME AND LIKE YO THANK
YOU FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW, THEY COULD TELL ME ON
THE SIDE, YO.
[LAUGHS]
YOU SAVED MY RELATIONSHIP.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
BUT IT'S, IT WAS, IT WAS NEEDED.
LIKE, AND LIKE YOU KNOW, MY MOM,
IT CHANGED OUR -- THE DYNAMIC OF
OUR RELATIONSHIP.
WHEN SHE FIRST HEARD THAT SONG
SHE GOT SUPER DEFENSIVE AND JUST
WAS LIKE YOU KNOW --
>> Maverick: YOU CAN'T PUT THIS
OUT.
>> Jay-Z: ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> Paul: WOW.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH, AND THEN --
>> Maverick: THAT'S A FULL
CIRCLE TO GET HER TO BE ON IT.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
>> Paul: WOW.
>> Jay-Z: AND THEN WHAT
HAPPENED, SHE -- SHE -- I WAS IN
L.A., SHE FLEW OUT TO L.A., THEN
SHE LEFT AND WAS LIKE NO.
WE TALKED, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED
THROUGH IT.
AND THEN WHEN SHE FLEW BACK TO
L.A., SHE HAD WRITTEN A POEM.
SHE WROTE THAT ON THE PLANE.
IT CAME WITH THE LIKE AMERICAN
AIRLINE, LIKE THE LITTLE
NOTEPAD.
[LAUGHS]
>> Jay-Z: SHE -- I WAS LIKE YOU
GOT TO BARS, MOM.
[LAUGHTER]
GLORIA GOT BARS.
>> LeBron: THAT'S -- THAT'S A
TRUE DEFINITION OF A MAMA.
SHE GOING TO DO WHAT SHE,
WHATEVER --
>> Jay-Z: THAT'S RIGHT.
>> LeBron: SHE WILL CAUSE
HERSELF HARM.
>> Jay-Z: THAT'S RIGHT.
>> LeBron: TO PROTECT HER BOYS
AND HER GIRLS OR WHATEVER.
>> Jay-Z: YEAH.
>> LeBron: BUT THAT'S WHAT THE
TRUE DEFINITION OF A MOM IS.
I WOULD DO WHATEVER IT TAKES.
>> Jay-Z: THAT'S RIGHT.
>> LeBron: TO MAKE SURE MY BOY
CONTINUE TO RISE NO MATTER IF IT
HURTS ME.
>> Jay-Z: THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Nneka: WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR
YOU GUYS?
BECAUSE I'M -- MY DAD'S A GIRL
DAD.
I'M ONE OF FOUR DAUGHTERS.
AS FATHERS WITH DAUGHTERS LIKE
WHAT IS IT LIKE IN THIS WORLD
NOW?
>> Jay-Z: YEAH, NO IT'S AMAZING.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: IT'S A -- IT'S A --
IT'S A -- A VERY GROUNDING
THING, YOU KNOW.
LIKE, LIKE THE MINUTE.
I DIDN'T LEARN HOW TO SWIM UNTIL
BLUE WAS BORN.
>> Maverick: THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
>> Paul: WOW.
>> Maverick: BY THE WAY.
>> Jay-Z: THERE GOES EVERYTHING
YOU NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE IF SHE
EVER FELT THAT, LIKE THIS IS A
METAPHOR FOR HOW I'VE -- OUR
RELATIONSHIP.
>> Nneka: RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: IF SHE EVER FELL IN
THE WATER AND I COULDN'T GET
HER, I COULDN'T EVEN LIKE FATHOM
THAT THOUGHT.
>> Nneka: RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: I GOT TO LEARN HOW TO
SWIM.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT.
AND THAT, THAT, THAT WAS THE
BEGINNING OF OUR RELATIONSHIP.
I THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
THE HALL OF FAME.
I GOT THE ANNOUNCEMENT I WAS
LIKE, MAYBE LIKE --
>> Paul: BY THE WAY, CONGRATS.
>> Jay-Z: TAKEN, TAKEN.
>> Maverick: CONGRATS, BROTHER.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Jay-Z: I WAS TAKING --
THANK YOU, GUYS.
>> LeBron: ABSOLUTELY.
>> Jay-Z: I WAS TAKING BLUE TO
SCHOOL.
[LAUGHS]
I WAS LIKE, THIS AIN'T NO
CELEBRATION.
[LAUGHTER]
SHE WALKED AWAY I WAS LIKE, YO.
>> Maverick: YOUR DAD'S IN THE
HALL OF FAME.
>> Paul: HALL OF FAME, YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: I'M IN THE HALL OF
FAME.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: SHE'S LIKE BYE, DAD.
>> LeBron: BYE DADDY, YEP.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
I GOT TWO TEENAGE BOYS IN MY
HOUSE.
>> Maverick: DO THEY CARE THAT
YOU'RE LIKE A GREAT BASKETBALL
PLAYER?
>> LeBron: THEY DON'T GIVE, NO,
NO.
>> Maverick: THEY'RE LIKE, WELL
YEAH WE KNOW THAT ALREADY.
>> LeBron: LISTEN.
>> Maverick: MAN, SHUT UP ABOUT
THAT.
>> LeBron: LISTEN.
AND I'M A BE LIKE.
AND I GET SAD TOO.
LIKE I GET SAD AT TIMES WHERE
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK, LIKE --
>> Maverick: DON'T YOU ALL
RECOGNIZE ME?
>> LeBron: DAD HERE.
[LAUGHS]
I KNOW I'M GONE A LOT BUT DAD IS
HERE.
CAN I GET A HUG, CAN I GET A
LEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING,
WHAT'S UP, SHOW ME SOME LOVE,
LIKE -- NO, I'LL BE WALKING IN
AND I GOT -- AND I, I START
THINKING.
>> Maverick: YOU RAISE.
>> LeBron: OH SHIT, I REMEMBER
WHEN I WAS 13 AND 16.
I GET IT.
I KNOW.
HE'S DRIVING.
HE GOT HIS LICENSE.
HE'S -- THEN GOT HAIR ON HIS
BEARD, HAIR ON HIS CHEST.
AND THEN LIKE MY DAUGHTER, SHE,
YOU KNOW, SHE LOVES ME, WHATEVER
THE CASE, GO CRAZY FOR ME BUT
LIKE, BUT HER MOM HAS ANOTHER
LITTLE SPECIAL PLACE FOR HER.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> LeBron: SO, I'LL BE SITTING
THERE LIKE LIKE WHAT, WHAT ABOUT
ME, WHAT ABOUT ME?
YOU ALL FORGOT ABOUT POPS.
♪ ♪
>> Maverick: I ALWAYS TELL
PEOPLE THE THING ABOUT LeBron
AND JAY-Z HAS THIS, THEY ALWAYS
KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THEM.
I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, JAY-Z AND
LeBRON ARE THE CLEAREST PEOPLE
I'VE EVER SEEN.
IF IT'S A WEIRD QUALITY OF LIKE
KNOWING WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT
TO DO AND YOU GUYS, YOU'RE
GOING, YOU GUYS ARE BOTH GOING
TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT NOW.
>> Nneka: MY DAD CALLS IT GRACE.
LIKE --
>> Maverick: THAT'S A GREAT WAY
TO PUT IT.
>> Nneka: THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S
WHAT HE CALLS IT.
IT'S INTRINSIC, YOU KNOW.
IT FINDS YOU.
YOU FIND IT.
CHOICES ARE NOT BINARY.
IT'S NOT A MULTIPLE CHOICE.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MAKE IT WHAT
IT IS.
AND I'M LEARNING THAT NOW,
ESPECIALLY KIND OF LIKE TEN
YEARS IN.
LIKE, I'M STILL PRETTY YOUNG,
BUT IT'S -- MY DAD CALLS IT
GRACE.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY, IT'S, IT'S
ALMOST HARD TO EXPLAIN.
>> Jay-Z: I LOVE THE WORD
"GRACE."
YEAH, I THINK IT'S MORE SO ABOUT
LIKE JUST KNOWING WHO YOU ARE
AND JUST DOING WHAT'S
COMFORTABLE FOR YOU AND NOT
LETTING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PULL
YOU IN 1,000 DIFFERENT
DIRECTIONS BECAUSE THEY, BECAUSE
THEY, IF YOU ALLOWED, RIGHT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE A CELEBRITY.
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: PEOPLE WILL HAVE YOU
DOING ALL KIND OF STUFF.
>> Nneka: RIGHT.
>> Jay-Z: YOU KNOW.
AND IT HAS TO MAKE SENSE FOR
YOU.
>> Jay-Z: IT CAN'T MAKE SENSE
FOR THEM.
AND IT CAN'T BE MOTIVATED BY
MONEY.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT I WAS
NEVER THE, THE BIGGEST SELLING
RAPPER IN THE -- YOU KNOW.
MAYBE IN '98.
AND, AND I THINK DMX, MAN, OUT
SOLD --
>> Maverick: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: ME IN '98.
BUT IT WAS, I WAS ALWAYS JUST,
JUST RUNNING MY OWN RACE, THE
GRACE, I LOVE THAT WORD, YOU
KNOW.
I'M JUST RUNNING MY OWN RACE AND
IT'S BEST THAT YOU PROTECT YOU
KNOW, WHO YOU ARE AND BE TRUE
TO, TO, TO WHO YOU ARE.
AND IT'S JUST LIKE I'M SHOWING
UP, I'M GOING TO HAVE D'USSE AND
SOME ACE UNDER MY SEAT OR DON'T
INVITE ME.
[LAUGHTER]
I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.
LIKE, NIGGA, IF I, I'M NOT GOING
TO SIT HERE AND BE UNCOMFORTABLE
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M COMING
WITH.
I'M COMING WITH SOME ACE AND
SOME D'USSE AND I'M GOING TO
MAKE EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD TIME
ACTUALLY.
>> Paul: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: I'M BRING -- I
BRINGING LIKE A LOT OF CUPS.
>> LeBron: ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY.
YEAH.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: LIKE TWO CUPS, I GOT
LIKE A WHOLE --
>> Paul: BY THE WAY, BY THE WAY
JAY YOU MENTIONED X, LIKE YOU
TALK A LITTLE BIT JUST ABOUT
LIKE WHAT HE MEANT TO THE
CULTURE AND MAYBE MEANT TO YOU
PERSONALLY.
>> Jay-Z: BY THE WAY, THE FIRST
TIME I BOYCOTTED THE GRAMMYS
WAS FOR HIM.
WE BOTH CAME OUT THAT YEAR.
HE DIDN'T GET NOMINATED.
HE DROPPED TWO ALBUMS, HAD TWO
NUMBER ONE ALBUMS IN THE SAME
YEAR.
>> LeBron: IN THE SAME YEAR.
>> Jay-Z: THEY DIDN'T EVEN
NOMINATE HIM.
I WON THAT YEAR.
>> LeBron: IN THE SAME YEAR.
>> Jay-Z: I WON THAT YEAR FOR
RAP ALBUM.
SO, MY FIRST GRAMMY WIN, I
WASN'T THERE.
I WASN'T EVEN IN THE BUILDING
BECAUSE I BOYCOTTED IT FOR HIM.
SO, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A, A
COMPETITIVE THING BUT IT WAS BIG
LOVE.
HE WAS SO COMPETITIVE WITH ME.
I NEVER MET A HUMAN BEING MORE
COMPETITIVE WITH ME, LIKE EVER.
NOT EVEN MY BIG BROTHER.
LIKE, NO ONE.
WE MET BATTLING.
THAT'S HOW -- THAT'S HOW WE MET.
WE WAS IN THE BRONX IN A POOL
HALL.
AFTER THAT BATTLE, WE -- HE WENT
TO LIKE A SHOW AND HE GOT ON
STAGE, JAY-Z WHERE YOU AT?
[LAUGHTER]
I WAS LIKE THIS GUY'S NUTS.
HE WAS JUST ALL PASSION.
MY FONDEST MEMORY OF DMX IS
HE, HE IMPROVED MY STAGE SHOW.
REMEMBER, RAP TOURS WASN'T GOING
OUT AT THAT TIME.
THERE'S NO RAP TOUR BEFORE.
>> Maverick: FACTS.
>> Jay-Z: MAYBE THE FRESH FEST
IN THE '80s OR SOME TIME.
>> Paul: YEAH, BUT NOT, NOT
LIKE, YES.
>> Jay-Z: BUT THERE'S NO RAP
SHOWS.
ME, DMX, METHOD MAN, RED MAN,
JA, THE LOX, THIS TOUR IS
PACKED.
FIRST NIGHT, 360 SOLD OUT.
EVERYONE HAS A GREAT SHOW.
METH AND RED ARE FLYING IN THE
AUDIENCE.
>> Maverick: HOW HIGH, THEY'RE
DOING THE HOW HIGH THING.
>> Jay-Z: IT, THEY --
INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCE.
EVERYONE'S DESTROYING IT.
SO, X IS ABOUT TO GO ON AND I'M
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SEE.
I LIKE --
>> Paul: X IS BEFORE YOU.
>> Maverick: YES.
>> Jay-Z: X IS GOING BEFORE ME.
>> Paul: YEP.
>> Jay-Z: THE LIGHTS OFF.
HE'S IN THE HALLWAY.
HE GOES, HE GOES --
>> Paul: YEAH, I JUST GOT THE
CHILLS.
[LAUGHS]
>> Jay-Z: AND NOW THE, THE, THE,
THE ARENA'S SHAKING.
AND I'M LIKE THIS IS COOL.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: AND IT GOES --
[MAKES NOISE]
AND THEN HE GOES --
[GROWLS]
CRAZY.
[LAUGHTER]
THEY WERE DEAFENING.
AND I'M LIKE, OH SHIT.
[LAUGHS]
HE'S RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.
HE HAS A THING THAT WAS LIKE A
ALIZE AND HENNESSY MIX.
IT LOOKS LIKE BLOOD.
>> Maverick: NICE.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: LIKE HE'S DRINKING
BLOOD.
RIGHT?
AND HE'S RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.
>> Jay-Z: ONE, ONE, TWO, ONE,
TWO, HERE WE GO.
>> Paul: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: GOING DO.
AND GOING, HALFWAY THROUGH THE
SHOW THEN HE TAKES HIS SHIRT
OFF.
>> Paul: GIRLS SCREAMING.
AH!
[LAUGHS]
>> Maverick: AND THE CHAIN, THE
DOG CHAIN ON.
>> Jay-Z: HE HAD A DOG CHAIN IS
DRIPPING AND HE'S GOING NUTS,
RIGHT.
AND I'M LIKE SHIT.
>> Jay-Z: THIS IS HALFWAY
THROUGH.
NOW THE, FIRST THE GUYS WAS
GOING CRAZY.
NOW THE GIRLS ARE GOING CRAZY.
AND THEN HE GETS TO THE END AND
HE STARTS A PRAYER.
>> Maverick: OH, MY GOD.
>> Jay-Z: AND NOW THEY'RE
CRYING.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: THE WHOLE ARENA IS
CRYING.
>> LeBron: YEAH.
>> Jay-Z: THEY'RE CRYING TEARS.
AND I'M LIKE, THEY'RE LIKE HEY
NOW YOU GO.
[LAUGHTER]
[CLAPS]
LIKE IT'S A "HARD KNOCK LIFE."
[LAUGHTER]
>> Jay-Z: EVERYBODY FINISHED THE
-- THE SHOW THAT NIGHT HAPPY,
EVERYBODY'S HAPPY BY THE WAY AND
I WAS LIKE --
[LAUGHTER]
WE GOT 56 DATES OF THIS SHIT.
AND I WAS LIKE, BUT I HAD TO,
I'M LIKE, OKAY I HAVE TO FIGURE
OUT MY SPACE IN THIS.
>> Maverick: YES.
>> Jay-Z: YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO
FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHERE DO I
EXIST?
AND I WAS LIKE IN MY, IN MY
OPINION, IN MY MIND, THIS
IS WHAT I BELIEVE, I WAS LIKE HE
CAN'T RAP BETTER THAN ME.
SO, ON THAT TOUR WAS THE MOST A
CAPELLAS EVER.
EVERY, EVERYTHING WAS CUT THE
MUSIC OFF.
I'M THE -- AND THEY GO AH.
[LAUGHTER]
♪ ♪
>> Jay-Z: LIKE WHEN YOU PLAY
HIDE AND SEEK WITH YOUR CHILD
THEY THINK YOU'RE GONE FOREVER.
THAT'S WHY, ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE
A LITTLE BABY.
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO FUNNY TO
THEM.
THEY LIKE WHERE'D YOU GO?
[LAUGHTER]
THEY NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE.
>> Maverick: I DIDN'T KNOW YOU
CAN LEAVE AND COME BACK.
>> Jay-Z: YOU LEFT THE EARTH AND
CAME BACK.
[LAUGHTER]
WOW.
DO IT AGAIN.
♪ ♪