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This is where I live.
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This is where I exist.
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There is nothing matters to me.
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There's nothing means anything to me.
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I am who I am.
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Just a killer.
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These guards will tell you
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I live in an administrative
segregation unit.
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Until just six months ago,
I was in isolation,
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in a one-man cell for almost two years.
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What danger am I now?
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What danger to society
is a 71-year-old man in a wheelchair?
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They don't know what to do with me here.
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That's right. They don't know
what to do with me here.
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And I don't care.
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They say if there's no rage involved,
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if you have one split second
to think about what you're doing,
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it's first-degree murder in this state.
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-Alright? How's sound?
-Sounds good.
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Yeah?
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If this was a second-degree murder
like it was supposed to be,
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I'd probably be in a halfway house
somewhere like now,
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on my way to a nursing home.
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I was born in McDonald County, Missouri.
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I grew up two and a half miles south
in Noel on a small farm.
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Mostly what I remember
about those days are just
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warm kitchens,
the smell of biscuits cooking.
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Sometimes, uh, just a dog.
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I was five and a half years old
when my mother, father, and grandmother
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were killed in an automobile accident.
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I was the only survivor.
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I have no idea how that affected me,
losing my parents like that.
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It was a very caring family at first,
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but within five or six years,
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my mother had begun to drink.
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And the more she drank,
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the less involvement
with the family she had.
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My mother's alcoholism
had reached a point that, um…
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I remember her throwing
a vodka bottle at me one day,
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and I walked out of the house
when I was about…
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Well, it was before my 17th birthday.
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And I began to live
at the Redings Mill Inn at that point.
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The Redings Mill Inn,
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downstairs was
a legitimate tavern operation,
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and the other side of it, um…
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there were up to eight women there
at a time.
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They were prostitutes.
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They used to kid me,
joke with me,
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but we'd usually always end every night,
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whichever one of them didn't have a trick
was taking me back to her room.
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I began to feel
that I had to protect them.
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I had to take care of them.
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This was part of my job.
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They were my family.
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They were my family.
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By the time of my 17th birthday,
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I was an actual pimp
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for about six of the girls
that worked there.
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What it takes to really be a pimp
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is understanding that your first
responsibility is to care for that woman.
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I took some of these gals
off of a truck stop parking lot.
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You know, I cared for them more than had
been previously known in their lives.
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I believe that,
as well as I cared for them,
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they began to care for me more.
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You know, uh, some people
might not call that love.
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Some people might call it, um…
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infatuation,
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but they were there for me,
just as I was there for them.
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Tammy was a prospective prostitute.
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Around 7:30 p.m. that evening,
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she offered to show me what she could do
on a good Saturday night.
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We had gotten in the car.
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At that point, Tammy realized,
"Oops. I don't have any cigarettes."
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"Just stop down here
at this convenience store
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and I'll run in there and get them."
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That's where it all started on that night.
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She came back very quickly.
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I could tell when she came
around the corner into my sight
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that she was upset about something.
She was very upset about something.
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I'd started to roll my window down,
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and even before I got it all the way down,
she goes,
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"He pushed his groin
right up against my butt."
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When I turned around to tell him
to get away from me,
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he grabbed me by the hand
and pushed me back against the counter."
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Because of what Tammy said to me,
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I felt that he knew she was a prostitute
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and he was trying to take her for his own.
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That is totally unacceptable in my world.
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It made me very angry.
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When I saw him at the front of the store,
I said, "Boy, I want to talk to you."
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He turned and ran.
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And got into a brand-new Ranger truck.
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I looked back at, uh, Tammy and said,
"Get in the car. Get in the car."
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It didn't take five seconds
to catch up to him.
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When we came to a stop
at Fifth and Joplin,
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I was parked alongside his truck.
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I remember Tammy saying,
"Oh my God, don't do this."
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I said, "Don't worry about it, honey.
I'm going to kick his Black ass."
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The Black guy saw me
getting out of my car,
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and at that point,
he stepped out of the truck and had a…
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what was obviously, um, a bottle
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wrapped in a brown paper bag.
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And he said,
"Do you want some of me, old man?"
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And I said,
"Nothing but your bucking ass, boy."
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He swung the beer bottle.
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It knocked me to my right knee.
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When I rose, I rose drawing that blade.
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I swung right up over his shoulder
into the side of his neck with that blade.
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The arterial spray of blood that shot out
was probably four to six feet.
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It was just like a garden hose
of water squirting.
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And he went, "Oh my God-- Oh my God."
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And I stepped back away from him
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and watched him stagger back
towards the truck.
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I returned to my car.
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As I got in,
I threw the blade on the dash,
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I pulled the door closed.
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Tammy said, "Oh my God, what happened?"
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We returned to the house,
packed some clothes.
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I got a key to a trailer, a mobile home,
about 45 miles away.
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And we drove down there
to spend the weekend
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and just wait and see what would happen.
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This is my favorite of all-time.
Right here.
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-That's a good one.
-Yeah.
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Man, he looks happy.
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Right in the middle
of his two big brothers.
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My name is Charley Kibby Johnson,
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and I am the mother
of Jason Oscar Johnson.
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I'm Oscar B., the father of Jason Oscar.
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-Right there.
-Who's that?
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Everybody knew him,
even growing up.
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As he was growing up,
they knew him by that smile that he had
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because he was a happy individual.
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In sports, he was always at the top notch.
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University of Cincinnati Wildcats.
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Yeah.
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Go, Jason, go.
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They would pretty much, uh, compare him
to some of the professional athletes.
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-He was good. He was good.
-He was great. He was better than good.
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This is Jason's girlfriend.
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That was the love of his life.
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And I'm sure that had things not changed,
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they would have been
husband and wife today.
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We drove to Joplin.
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And we got there
approximately 5:00 in the morning.
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And they explained to us
that he had lost a lot of blood,
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which had caused multiple strokes.
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We had to go in a conference.
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Had to decide what to do.
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Oscar and I decided that,
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"What good is anybody that's a vegetable?"
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If you don't know who you are,
you don't know where you are.
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Uh, that was not our son.
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Our son was a vibrant, intelligent,
loving, and caring individual.
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We made the decision
to take him off of the life support.
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I remember saying,
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"Jesus is waiting on you."
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"He's waiting on you,
and it's going to be okay."
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And he took his last breath.
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I was there when my baby--
took his first breath,
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and unfortunately, I was there
when my baby took his last breath.
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One could say pretty easily
that this is a good versus evil case.
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Nothing suggested anything other than good
on Jason Johnson.
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Nothing suggested anything other than evil
for Gary Black.
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My name is Darren Gallup,
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and in 1998,
I was the lead detective in this case.
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A lot of people refer to this
as the Gary Black case,
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but really,
this is all about Jason Johnson.
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And he was the victim,
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and so, it's really about him.
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And this is
the Joplin Police Department here.
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Gary has to justify this
as saying it's a street fight.
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So it would lend, obviously,
to the self-defense theory.
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There was no intent or premeditation.
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But that's just not
what the evidence shows.
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There's just no way that this
can be conceived as a street fight,
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which then caused Gary
to pull a knife in self-defense.
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There was no evidence
that suggested any of that.
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The evidence that we had
said that Gary Black
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pulled up next to Jason Johnson
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while he was seated in his vehicle,
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gets out, pulls a knife,
and stabs Jason Johnson in the throat.
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You can look in here and it's obvious
that he was sitting in the truck
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when he was stabbed in the throat.
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Blood would not have gotten
into this truck
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if the altercation happened
outside the truck.
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This is the knife used
as the murder weapon.
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When somebody takes a knife out,
especially a knife like this,
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and lunges it into the throat
of a person sitting in a vehicle,
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the only result that they can expect
is for that to be a killing.
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That is a first-degree murder.
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That's premeditated murder.
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I do not regret the death
of Jason Oscar Johnson.
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He was a fake player.
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He stepped into a game
that he knew nothing about.
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Jason Oscar Johnson
knew she's-- she was a prostitute,
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knew she was an open prostitute,
a free prostitute,
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and he was trying to take her for his own.
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I saw the video.
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The video from that convenience store.
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I saw him grinding his groin
up against her from behind
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at the counter.
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I saw her turn to face him,
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and I saw him grab her by the hand,
push her backwards against that counter,
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and say something to her.
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He wanted to play "I can take care of you
better than anybody else."
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He wanted to play "I am a pimp."
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What he played was dead.
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Well, it's just straight lies
is what it is.
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It just goes to show you
what type of a person Gary is.
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He…
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will make stuff up
just to make himself look better,
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and he continues to victimize Jason.
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Jason Johnson was not a pimp.
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There's no evidence to support it,
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and you can just look into your heart
and know that that's just wrong.
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So it just shoots, like,
one frame at a time.
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Well, Jason is standing at the counter
buying what he's buying,
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and then this is Tammy right here.
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And this is where the alleged bump,
or whatever, occurred.
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This is Tammy,
and this is Jason right there.
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And that was it.
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I mean, it was literally
a second and a half
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of a-- of an interaction there.
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So any claims
of Jason was trying to sexually assault
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or do something inappropriate to Tammy,
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it's obvious in the video
that that's not what occurred.
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Even if Jason would have said something,
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you know, why would anybody think
that that's okay
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to stab somebody in the throat
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just for bumping into your girlfriend,
or your wife,
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or as Gary might put it, his prostitute.
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These are all the tattoos on Gary Black,
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uh, the day that I talked to him,
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and this is a German Nazi SS tattoo.
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I-- I really believe that--
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that Gary stabbed Jason in the throat
and killed him
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because, uh, he was trying to save face.
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And the fact that Jason was Black
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and, you know, Tammy testified
that whenever, uh…
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Gary got out of the car and stabbed Jason,
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and then he got back into the car,
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he turned to Tammy and said,
"One 'n-word' down."
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That certainly lent credence
to it being a racially-motivated crime.
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Through our investigation,
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we felt like that this,
one, was a first-degree murder
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and that it warranted the death penalty.
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The only question was
if the jury agreed with us or not.
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You have to have certain aggravators
in the state of Missouri
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for the death penalty.
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Uh, one of those aggravators
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is, uh, the-- the past history.
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This was not the first violent crime
that Gary had committed.
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You ever had a dream
about the Bogeyman?
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Gary Black's my Bogeyman.
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This is where I was supposed to die.
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But I haven't been up here,
oh, probably 35 years.
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I'm sure that I'll have
nightmares tonight about it.
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Back in March 1976, uh,
it was a Friday night,
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and I'd, uh…
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picked up, uh, my girlfriend
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and, um, taking her out to a date.
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And I brought her up here.
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We saw a car
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pull up the hill.
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They pulled in behind me and stopped.
They blocked me in.
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Gary Black popped up in this window here,
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driver-side and with a sawed-off shotgun.
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And said they's police.
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Told me to get out of my car,
so I got out my car.
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He spread me eagle up against the car.
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They picked up my billfold and keys,
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and then they shot me.
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I remember I could feel the blood
running out my side,
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and I could feel the coldness
creeping up my arms.
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Just cold, just like I was going numb,
but it's cold. I was bleeding to death.
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I got over 40 pellets still in me.
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I got two in my heart.
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They had to remove half my lung,
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had to remove my spleen.
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If Gary Black hadn't been released
as early as he did
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and put back out on the streets,
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then he wouldn't have had a chance
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to do what he did
on murdering another guy.
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It-- It just floored me.
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He should have stayed in jail.
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I feel for the family on the other person.
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And it's just so sad, so preventable.
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What good does it do to kill someone
for having killed someone else?
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If all you do is kill the other person,
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then the death of the one person
becomes meaningless.
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Does Gary deserve compassion?
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Every human being deserves compassion.
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If your attitude is, is that there's
some people that are just so horrible…
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I mean, maybe you can't
find compassion for them,
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and that's within you,
but they're human beings.
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And no matter what they've done,
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they deserve, uh,
a criminal justice system
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that treats them fairly.
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If you look back at Gary's 1976 sentence,
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with respect to whether or not
Gary deserved a second chance
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when he got paroled,
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I think he did.
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You know, we don't have
any magic compass to tell us
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whether or not this person
is going to commit another offense or not.
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It was right to see if he'd changed.
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There's no other way to find out.
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You know, you can go "what if, what if,
what if."
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If he'd have been kept in prison,
maybe he wouldn't have been out
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and maybe wouldn't have killed
Mr. Johnson."
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You know, it's all "what ifs."
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I think that a lot of the anger
that Gary had
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that made him a dangerous person
when he was younger, it's gone out.
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I don't think society is gaining anything
by having Gary incarcerated at this point.
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The point of prison has come to be
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keeping them away
from the rest of society,
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where they might hurt people
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or take people's property
or something like that.
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It doesn't really accomplish much.
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I-- I just don't think that there's
that much--
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much justification
for keeping him in-- in prison.
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Gary's pretty harmless now.
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I think Gary Black
will always be a threat to society
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or to any institution that he's kept in.
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We've had some very manipulative inmates,
but none as truly evil as Gary.
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My name is Becky Stevens.
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My role at the Jasper County Sheriff's
Office, I am the current captain.
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I learned about Gary Black
before I started working here.
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I learned about him in the police academy
at the local university.
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Um, they…
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They would teach courses,
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and he would be the example
for their courses.
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He had a, a pretty good reputation for…
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I don't know how to describe it, but just
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for being dangerous,
I guess that's the best way to put it.
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You know, we have some
behavior modification techniques,
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which is basically loss of privileges
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or not letting them out of their cell
for so many hours.
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Gary didn't care.
There was nothing that mattered to him.
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He didn't have anybody that came to visit.
There was nothing for him to behave for.
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He would be aggressive
towards the officers.
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He could get to you even,
you know, if he was locked in his cell.
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You can still yell,
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and then he would get the other inmates
to go and do his biddings for him.
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That's just the way it was.
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He lives on the torment of others.
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I don't know if I could have words
to describe how racist Gary Black is.
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If we placed an inmate of color
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into that housing unit
where Gary was located,
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he'd make their life a living hell.
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Daily, all day long, the mental attacks,
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the psychological warfare.
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I believe Gary Black still
poses a threat to society, even in prison.
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And an individual like Gary
who has no…
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no care for human life
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is very dangerous no matter where he's at.
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What do you do
with somebody like Gary Black?
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He is the most dangerous person
that I have ever prosecuted.
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My name is Norman Rouse,
and I was the lead prosecutor
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in the Gary Black trial.
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The fact that he got life without parole,
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um, sometimes that's just the way it is
and the process,
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but it was very hard to take.
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Life without parole
makes me very angry.
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If I did not have a sentence
of life without parole,
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uh, I would have 22 years done
on this conviction,
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and I would be very close
to be making parole
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on a regular life sentence,
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which, here in Missouri,
is considered to be 30 years
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for the purposes of parole.
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There are no incentives
to behave yourself.
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There is nothing you gain.
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There is no incentive
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for a man with life without parole
to live in any other way.
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Gary Black's allegation that,
"But for life without parole…"
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um, "I wouldn't be violent,"
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we can go back
and look at the prison records
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long before he got life without parole.
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In 1993, there's a report here
where, uh, he stabbed another inmate.
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Uh, and in 1999,
he actually assaulted a jail officer
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and, uh, caused damage to his left eye.
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So these are just clear incidents
of, uh, his continued violence,
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when life without parole was not an issue.
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00:36:51,923 --> 00:36:55,003
Keep in mind, we just have his violence
while he's in prison.
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There's a lot of criminal records
out there, uh, that we haven't looked at.
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So, this is just the, so to speak,
the tip of the iceberg,
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simply out of the prison system.
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Keeping him in prison
with life without parole,
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which a lot of people believe is,
is appropriate
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00:37:12,443 --> 00:37:14,003
as opposed to the death penalty,
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00:37:14,083 --> 00:37:17,683
as you can see from his records,
all these records,
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00:37:17,763 --> 00:37:19,723
it doesn't keep him from being violent.
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00:37:21,443 --> 00:37:23,283
I think he's very lucky to be alive.
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00:37:23,763 --> 00:37:29,363
In fact, all these records
vindicate and substantiate
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that he deserves the death penalty.
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Good morning, everyone.
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We just thank God for this is another day
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that God chose to wake us up.
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00:38:31,003 --> 00:38:34,443
I do the prayer line every morning,
Monday through Friday.
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Currently, we have about 67 people
that come on.
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I believe my duty
after the death of my son
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is to help others
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00:38:47,523 --> 00:38:52,843
who have experienced
similar circumstances and situations.
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00:38:54,563 --> 00:38:58,563
To help others realize
that life still goes on.
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00:38:59,363 --> 00:39:01,963
But God is always our refuge.
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00:39:02,043 --> 00:39:03,923
He's always our strength.
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00:39:04,003 --> 00:39:06,723
The anger that I had has changed.
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00:39:07,483 --> 00:39:09,363
Yes, he is. We thank God…
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00:39:09,443 --> 00:39:12,363
As a Christian, I have to forgive.
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00:39:14,283 --> 00:39:16,203
It took a while, it took a long time,
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00:39:16,283 --> 00:39:21,003
but I can tell you sincerely
that I have forgiven him.
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00:39:21,083 --> 00:39:22,403
I have forgiven him.
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I'm not in favor of the death penalty.
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There's no real purpose
and there's no real gaining of anything.
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00:39:40,283 --> 00:39:46,283
If he was executed, he would not
have had time to feel remorseful.
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00:39:49,123 --> 00:39:50,843
I want him to think about it.
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00:39:52,723 --> 00:39:56,643
I want Gary Black
to spend the rest of his life
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seeing the face of Jason Johnson.
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00:40:33,563 --> 00:40:36,963
Had a little heart attack,
went to Jeff City for a stroke,
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00:40:37,043 --> 00:40:39,603
and just getting by, just getting by.
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I've been given a type of medication
that thins my blood
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to keep me from having another stroke,
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00:40:46,883 --> 00:40:50,603
and it results in easily bruising
around my eyes.
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They say they're monitoring it
and getting it under control.
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I don't know.
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It should have been
a second-degree murder.
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00:41:13,683 --> 00:41:16,443
Jason Johnson
got out of that truck completely.
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00:41:16,523 --> 00:41:19,883
He hit me with a bottle,
and I stabbed him in the side of the neck,
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00:41:19,963 --> 00:41:21,483
that fast, that quick.
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00:41:21,563 --> 00:41:24,443
Just as he hit me, I stabbed him.
It was over.
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00:41:31,123 --> 00:41:34,483
There's just no way that this
can be conceived as a street fight.
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00:41:36,043 --> 00:41:39,523
The eyewitness testimony
and everything that we put together
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suggested Gary Black
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pulled up next to Jason Johnson
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while he was seated in his vehicle,
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00:41:46,003 --> 00:41:50,043
gets out, pulls a knife,
and stabs Jason Johnson in the throat.
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00:41:51,563 --> 00:41:54,923
That is a first-degree murder.
That's premeditated murder.
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00:41:57,483 --> 00:41:59,043
I could care less what he says.
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00:41:59,643 --> 00:42:01,483
I believe that I did what was right.
439
00:42:04,563 --> 00:42:07,883
I feel that the CCTV shows
that a Black man
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made sexual contact with his groin
against a white woman's butt,
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00:42:11,723 --> 00:42:14,523
and anything that happened after that
was legitimate.
442
00:42:18,403 --> 00:42:21,963
I wanted to kill him the moment that truck
come to a stop at Fifth and Joplin.
443
00:42:22,043 --> 00:42:24,283
I knew he couldn't get away.
It was cross-traffic.
444
00:42:24,363 --> 00:42:25,803
I knew he couldn't go any farther.
445
00:42:27,763 --> 00:42:30,883
"You want to see how tough you are,
how big you are? Let's find out."
446
00:42:30,963 --> 00:42:34,203
"Let's find out if you really want to play
in this real game."
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00:42:36,683 --> 00:42:39,123
Right at that moment, I knew he was dead,
448
00:42:39,603 --> 00:42:40,483
and he died.
449
00:42:47,963 --> 00:42:49,443
Are you a racist?
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00:42:49,523 --> 00:42:50,483
Definitely.
451
00:42:50,563 --> 00:42:52,163
I am definitely a racist.
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00:42:53,003 --> 00:42:55,483
I grew up in the Klan.
I grew up around it.
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00:43:09,723 --> 00:43:13,923
Gary Black is unique
in his disregard for humans and,
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and treatment of humans.
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Keeping him in prison
with life without parole,
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00:43:19,763 --> 00:43:22,363
which a lot of people believe is,
is appropriate
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00:43:22,443 --> 00:43:24,003
as opposed to the death penalty,
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00:43:24,083 --> 00:43:26,283
it doesn't keep him from being violent.
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00:43:28,243 --> 00:43:30,043
I've often thought, "What do you--"
460
00:43:30,123 --> 00:43:32,443
"What do you do with a person
like Gary Black?"
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00:43:33,683 --> 00:43:35,723
Sit here and cost
the state of Missouri money.
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00:43:35,803 --> 00:43:37,323
That's what I do with myself.
463
00:43:37,403 --> 00:43:40,003
I sit right here
and cost the whole state of Missouri
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00:43:40,083 --> 00:43:42,763
every penny I can get
for the rest of my life.
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Dying, even dying,
you people are going to pay for me.