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[man] Whenever things happen
to certain people that they love,
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they're gonna do everything they can
to make you out to be a monster.
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To make sure you get
what they believe you deserve,
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which is, at the time,
a lot of them wanted me to die.
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And here I sit 18 years later.
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[man] I just consider myself just, uh...
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a down-to-earth, normal person
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who tries to help others
and better myself at the same time.
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More like a people person.
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I try to look out for people.
I got a caring heart.
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[man 1]
And I walked up, I fired one shot.
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And as I got closer,
I fired one more shot.
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[man 2] She was shot through the cheek
and it stopped in her jaw.
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[man 3] I drove him around behind a desk
and I stabbed him approximately 25 times.
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[man 4] I couldn't believe it.
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I just thought I can't believe
I just killed somebody.
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[man 5]
I don't feel bad about it. [laughs]
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[man 6] I started stabbing him,
stabbing the guy on the couch.
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[keys clinking]
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[chains rattling]
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[Buchanan] I was born
in Centreville, Illinois.
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It's a part of the city in East St. Louis.
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I was born to some young parents,
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so my grandparents
on my mom and dad's side
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played a major role in raising me.
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They taught me the right...
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you know, right from wrong,
try to put me on a path.
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My father, uh,
he really kept me on a narrow path,
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exposed me to religion.
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I had to go to church every Sunday.
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Made sure that I brought home good grades
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and pretty much exposed me
to all different types of instruments,
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sports, science, you name it.
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Him and I used to take rides
on his motorcycle.
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But this particular day,
he wouldn't let me ride with him.
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And I was--
We kinda, like, my own little way,
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I displayed my little, uh, frustration
and anger.
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But being that I know my father,
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I knew... [chuckles] I knew
not to get too, uh, out of hand
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because I didn't wanna get a whooping.
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So I stormed off.
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And, uh... And I was playing in the yard,
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and my cousin's father,
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he pulled up in this truck,
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he said, "I think your dad
was in an accident. Get in the truck."
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And so I got in the truck,
he took me to this, uh, area.
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And when we got there, it was a wreck,
looked like a wrecked motorcycle.
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And they took the sheet off
and I saw my father's body.
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And, uh, it was...
It was a gruesome sight.
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I believe that was a pivotal point
in my life
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that caused me to stray another path.
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I started fighting,
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getting in trouble, fighting in school,
fighting in the neighborhood.
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Instead of it stopping, it just continued.
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But around that time,
I think I was 13, turning 14,
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that's when my cousins
from California came down
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and they introduced me
to selling these drugs
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and the work and the money.
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I was like, "Wow, I made this money,
and I didn't do nothing."
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In my mind, I'm thinking this was no work.
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It was a serious epidemic
in the inner cities
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with this cocaine thing.
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To me, it wasn't no work,
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just taking a piece of drugs
and giving it to somebody else.
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And I'm making more money over here
than I was over here.
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I was intelligent enough to see
it was more money over here,
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but I wasn't intelligent enough
to know exactly where I was going.
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[cars honking]
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And it was like a beginning and no end.
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I believe that's when I started carrying
a lot of weapons.
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And I think what really enhanced it,
I was robbed once.
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And I was, in my mind, like,
that'll never happen again,
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so I made sure I kept a weapon on me
at all times.
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-[horn honks in distance]
-[dog barking]
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Whenever I was in Columbia,
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I paid a guy 50 bucks a day
to answer the door.
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I didn't trust
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'cause a friend of mine got shot
and killed through the door.
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And so somebody called me and say,
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"Man, be careful. Don't be answering
no doors. So-and-so just got killed."
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So I hired a guy.
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I would give him $50,
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either in drugs or money,
whichever one he wanted.
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I told him, "However you want it,
I'mma give it to you.
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All I need you to do is answer that door
whenever I'm over here."
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I thought everything was under control
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'cause I surrounded myself
with these type of people.
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People who believed in violence,
people who believed in selling drugs.
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I-- I was just fully invested in it
for myself into that.
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I think the glamour of that lifestyle
kinda captivated me.
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And, unfortunately,
what's in the dark comes to the light.
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[Buchanan] I first met Angela
through her cousin.
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And we both just--
From first sight, we saw each other,
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it was just one of them moments. We were--
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She liked how I looked,
I liked how she looked,
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and we just begun to talk
and, uh, we went out on a date,
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and it never stopped.
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She was a very beautiful,
intelligent girl at that.
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We eventually ended up living together
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and then we eventually ended up
having a little girl.
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I'll never forget the day she gave birth
to her, I was at the hospital.
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I was right in the, uh,
delivery room with her,
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and, uh, she came out of her mom's womb.
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And I just was like, "Oh, my God."
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And I know how overprotective I am
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of women in my family
and my little sister, so I know.
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I'm looking at my daughter like...
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I'm fittin' to do everything I can
to make sure she okay.
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And, uh, we eventually
had our second child.
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I mean, it's, uh, unconditional.
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Knowing that that's your daughter,
man, I was like--
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I didn't ever put my hands on her.
[chuckles]
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I'm serious.
I would never whoop my daughters.
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I really didn't expose Angela
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to too much of my criminal activity
in the beginning.
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But eventually,
when one of our houses got broken in,
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I had to explain to her my lifestyle.
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We sat down and I said, "Look, we can't
let nobody else know where we live at."
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And one day,
I left to take care of some business.
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And we had a security system
and all this, you know, uh--
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So when I got back,
my little brother said,
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"Do you know that Angie's cousin
just left from over here?"
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And I was like, "No." I say, "How does she
even know where we live at?"
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He was like, "I don't know."
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And so me being who I am,
I'm like, "What the--?"
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I'm already just fucked up
from hearing this information, literally.
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I'm blown away 'cause I already had
a talk with her a while back
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about the security measures
that we had to keep in place.
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And then I find out
that it was some guys in this car
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in the driveway
that brought her over there.
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So not only do I not know
who these guys are,
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so this really got me hot.
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So we had-- We fall out that night.
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There was a little domestic abuse.
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I ended shaking her up a little bit.
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I grabbed her and I shook her
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because she wouldn't tell me
exactly what I thought I should hear.
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And she was like,
"Oh, it was just my cousin."
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And I was like,
"Who the fuck was it in the fucking car?
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Who was these dudes came over?"
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"Oh, I don't know." And I'm like,
"Why the fuck you didn't--?" I'm hot.
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And so she called the police.
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-They came, they arrested me.
-[siren blaring]
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They took her, locked me up.
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I came back, got my clothes.
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'Cause I didn't even trust
being in this house no more.
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The security was just infiltrated.
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And so having them experiences
with certain family members,
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it caused me not to trust certain people.
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I think we were celebrating my auntie's--
She just got an apartment.
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[music playing over radio]
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We all partying,
we kicking it and stuff like this.
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Socializing.
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[indistinct chatter]
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And I wanted to smoke some marijuana.
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So I called a friend of mine
and he dropped it off.
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I say to my door guy,
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"I thought he said he was gonna hang out
and, uh, smoke some with us?"
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"He say he had to pick up his girl
from work or something."
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I say, "Okay, where the stuff at?"
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He gave it to me.
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And I noticed that the bedroom door
was open and the light was on.
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I went to the back,
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broke it down, put it in a little paper,
started smoking it.
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And, uh, I heard a door open.
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So I go up there, I say,
"Who-- Who just came in here?"
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And everybody was like,
"Ain't nobody come in here."
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But I had noticed that the bathroom light
was off and the bedroom door was closed.
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Anyway, they told me there weren't nobody.
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So I go get my door guy,
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I say, "Well, if there ain't nobody
in here,
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go open up the bedroom door
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'cause the door was just open."
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And he saying, "Man, you tripping.
Ain't nobody in there."
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But he never would open up the door.
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So I go grab a weapon.
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I say, "Man, go open up the fucking door."
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And in the midst of this, I don't know how
and what was going on within me,
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while I'm talking about this door,
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all of a sudden, I get to feeling strange
as a motherfucker.
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My mind is just not right.
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Like, whatever I was smoking,
it was beyond what I've smoked before.
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I mean, really, it started taking
its effect on me.
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And I'm like,
"Man, I ain't feeling right."
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He was like, "Man, you tripping."
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I'm like, "No, I'm serious.
Something's wrong with me, man."
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I say, "Man, go open up the fucking door!"
And fuck, that's all I really remember.
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I don't even know what took place
all the way up to 12:50 a.m.
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I don't even know what the fuck happened.
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[gunshots]
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-[siren blaring]
-[indistinct radio chatter]
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The whole time, the radio is...
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just full of the dispatcher
giving information.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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[Jeff] There were people shot.
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They were trying to give
a suspect description,
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one piece of information
right after the next.
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-[siren continues]
-[indistinct radio chatter] I got in my car
and started towards Sexton Street.
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I knew that would be the, uh, quickest way
to get to Mary Street.
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-[siren blaring]
-[indistinct radio chatter]
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[Jeff] When I turned the corner
onto Mary Street,
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I saw someone lying on the ground.
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[crickets chirping]
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When I got out, I could see
that there was a woman laying here
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and there were children on top of her.
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One of them was trying to get out
from under her arm.
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And there was blood
pooling around her neck.
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She had no idea that we were there.
She was not conscious.
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She was barely breathing.
She was bleeding out.
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She didn't respond to us at all.
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Um, we knew that it was bad for her.
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She...
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was obviously holding those children
when she got shot, and...
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it appeared to me,
by the way she was laying there,
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that she had opened her arms up
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so that her children
would avoid the blast.
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[man on radio] Copy. In or out. [indistinct radio chatter]
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[ambulance siren blaring]
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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I started yelling at him
to show me his hands,
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keep his hands where I could see them.
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And he was doing
what I was asking him to do,
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but he seemed worked up.
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He was yelling really fast
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to the point that I couldn't understand
a lot of what he was saying.
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[Buchanan yelling] Get off of me!
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Buchanan yelling]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Krista] I do remember being
kind of surprised
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that even though
he was acting so agitated,
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that he was doing the things
that I was telling him to do.
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So I knew that he was at least
understanding my commands.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[siren blaring]
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[Buchanan] I was arrested,
placed in a police car.
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According to what I seen in paperwork,
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they said I was slamming my head all up
against the police door and windows.
239
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I don't even remember none of this stuff.
240
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And I said that, uh... I was talking
about somebody was trying to kill me.
241
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It was either them or me.
242
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And they said I was belligerent,
and sweating,
243
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and mucus coming all out my nose,
sweating hard.
244
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And at one point in time,
I think they said I told them,
245
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"Y'all can't protect me!
Y'all can't protect me!"
246
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So they put me
in a, uh, suicide cell observation.
247
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I think I slept, like, two days.
248
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And then when I finally came out
of whatever it was I was dealing with,
249
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whatever effect this drug had on me,
250
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and, uh, she sat me down and she was like,
"Do you know what you're in here for?"
251
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And when she told me,
a tear came down my eye
252
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and I was like, "You bullshit."
She was like, "No."
253
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Well, that night, I was told
I shot Juanita Hoffman, my auntie,
254
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William Jefferson, my stepfather,
255
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and I shot my girlfriend, Angela.
256
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I actually gave up.
257
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I said, "Fuck it.
If they kill me, they kill me."
258
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Shit, after what I realized what I'd done,
259
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I was like, "Man, they gonna execute me.
Fuck it, let them execute me."
260
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I mean, 'cause I felt like why
should I live based on what I just done?
261
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Even though I didn't intentionally do it,
but knowing that I'm responsible for it,
262
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I didn't even wanna live no more.
263
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[crickets chirping]
264
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[siren blaring in distance]
265
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[woman] I like winter.
266
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[exhales] I like winter and fall.
267
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Everybody worries about me in November
because they know it's hard.
268
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It's a hard time for me
269
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because of the thing that happened
in November.
270
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I'm Angela's mom, Valeria.
271
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Angela was one of the persons
Deandra had killed that night.
272
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And two other people,
he had also took their lives.
273
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,880
But he took the life of his mother
of his own children.
274
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Everybody she came in contact with
275
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say she's mature for her age,
she talked well.
276
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,920
She didn't go to bars. She hated them.
277
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,720
She stayed home and read books.
Oh, she was a bookworm.
278
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And when Angie turned 16,
she came to me and said,
279
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"Momma, I wanna go out
on a date with this guy."
280
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I said, "Okay, well,
we need to talk to him."
281
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,120
He was a total gentleman
because he was nice, polite, spoke polite,
282
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,240
brought her back on time,
283
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,200
and called her on the phone
like normal girlfriend and boyfriends.
284
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,800
You wouldn't think that he was a wolf
in sheep's clothing.
285
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,880
Around Christmastime, she called me.
286
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,000
She said, "Mom..."
287
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,960
She said, "Deandra's done lost his mind.
He said the baby, it wasn't his."
288
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,360
So I said, "Angie, don't stay there
289
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'cause you know you always can come home."
290
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,360
The door was always open for her.
291
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,640
And then she wouldn't come back over
to the house anymore.
292
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,080
He wouldn't let her come.
He kept her hidden away.
293
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,840
Well, then she got shot and killed.
294
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,240
-You all right?
-Oh, my God.
295
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,560
[Brown] Angie had two girls,
296
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,800
and I took them
because they're my granddaughters.
297
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,640
"If tomorrow starts without me,
don't think we're far apart.
298
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,920
For every time you think of me,
I'm right here in your heart."
299
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,800
[Brown] I had a deep hate,
300
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,440
and I want him to hurt
just like he hurt everybody else.
301
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,760
I want them to put him to death
302
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,080
because he deserves it.
303
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800
I mean, he killed the people
that you say you love.
304
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080
He didn't love them that much
if he's gonna take their lives.
305
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,760
He needs to explain why, you know.
306
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,640
Why did you kill the people
that actually truly love you?
307
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:39,760
-You want another water?
-Yes.
308
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,280
Sure thing.
309
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,280
-Yeah.
-That's crazy.
310
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,520
[woman] Growing up with Deandra,
he was, um, spoiled.
311
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,000
He was a spoiled kid. He had everything.
312
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,640
I'll get you some serving spoons.
313
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,040
Toni, you want bread?
314
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440
Me and my sisters, you know, we girls,
315
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,240
but we went to grandmama's house
to play with his toys
316
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,400
because he had everything.
317
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,840
But he was cool.
He was somebody that I looked up to.
318
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,520
And my family's close-knit,
so we just always been close.
319
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240
[sniffs] We grew a bond.
320
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,240
And it was more of a sister-brother bond
with all of us.
321
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320
He was never mistreated at home.
We all had a good life.
322
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,520
You know, some better than others,
323
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,120
but me and my cousins,
we all had a good life.
324
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,280
[Rush] I called his dad "Uncle Joon-Joon."
325
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,840
So I remember
when Uncle Joon-Joon passed away,
326
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,480
and I know it affected Deandra.
327
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,800
I don't think that he even cried
like a normal child would,
328
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,040
losing their parent.
329
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,440
Um, but it's... you know.
330
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Over the years,
he found different ways to deal with it.
331
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,440
As he got a little older,
he started smoking marijuana.
332
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,160
And I think that kind of took
the-- the edge off for him.
333
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,120
[Rush] My mom, Juanita Hoffman,
334
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,880
she was awesome.
335
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,720
Nobody is perfect,
but when you speak of Juanita Hoffman,
336
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,560
she was the closest thing
to being perfect.
337
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,840
My house phone rang
338
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,840
and I picked it up, and it was my sister,
my big sister, Shontai.
339
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,880
Very upset, uh...
340
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,560
And it was more of a scream in the phone,
341
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,200
"Toni, you need to come in town
because Deandra, he shot her."
342
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,480
So I'm like, "What?" And at that point,
I just started screaming.
343
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,920
At the hospital, I looked at the doctor,
344
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,760
[voice breaking] and I grabbed him
and I said,
345
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:35,720
"Please, doctor, please,
don't tell me that y'all lost my mom."
346
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,960
That's when reality hit me.
347
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,680
She was gone forever.
348
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640
[sobbing]
349
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,960
[sniffling] Oh, man.
350
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Man. God. [crying]
351
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,240
[voice breaking] You know,
and then you sit there and you--
352
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,960
And I could feel...
You know, I could feel her pain.
353
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880
You know that the shot--
354
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,080
And I'm sitting here
wondering like, "What--?"
355
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,920
You know, when he pointed the gun at her,
what was she thinking?
356
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480
You know, was she scared? [sobs]
357
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,680
[man] Being a judge,
I don't have any discoveries.
358
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,600
So, I want to at least review that
and talk to her about it.
359
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,960
0102, State v. Sean,
360
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,760
it's also my duty to require
the assistance of your attorney.
361
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,080
[man] I'm Kevin Crane,
362
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,040
I'm currently the presiding judge
for the 13th Judicial Circuit
363
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,240
which is Boone and Calloway Counties.
364
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,720
Buchanan's charged by me
with three counts of murder first, okay? Murder one is the only thing that,
in Missouri, has the potential for life
365
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280
without eligibility for probation parole.
366
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,920
It's also the only crime
for which the death penalty is possible.
367
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,720
All right.
368
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400
The family and friends
that were at the residence
369
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,600
that night of the homicides were--
370
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,880
They had fun together.
They, you know, they were, uh...
371
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,480
William Jefferson
was kind of the patriarchal guy.
372
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,480
He owned this place
373
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,160
and he was very welcoming
for everybody to be there.
374
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,040
And everybody felt very comfortable there.
375
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,440
But I think there was this kind of
a, uh, pall over the place
376
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,320
because as time went on,
377
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,320
the defendant became
more and more, uh, controlling.
378
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,080
He vastly restricted
Angie's ability to move,
379
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,600
like, to leave the room
or to do anything, you know.
380
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,480
So it's almost two worlds
under one roof as I recall.
381
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,040
You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say
382
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280
can and will be used against you.
You have the right to an attorney.
383
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,720
If you cannot afford an attorney,
one will be hired to represent you.
384
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400
-If you choose to make a statement...
-[Buchanan coughs]
385
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,040
[Crane] You can stop doing so anytime
until you have your attorney present.
386
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,200
-You understand what I said to you?
-[Buchanan] Yeah, no.
387
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,920
-[Crane] Same thing he said to you.
-Yeah.
388
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640
-Tell me who else was in the house.
-Me, my girl...
389
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,440
It was you, your kids' mom, two kids--
390
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Look, my kids' mom
and the two kids was in the back.
391
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Okay.
392
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:04,240
Now, my auntie, my Titi,
William Jefferson, my stepfather,
393
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,480
he's there sitting on the couch
faced back against wall.
394
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,600
I say, "Why are y'all surrounding me?"
395
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720
When you got a funny feeling
in your fucking soul
396
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,920
about something about to happen to you,
397
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400
that's when I grabbed my shotgun.
398
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,440
I pointed the gun and wondered
why they're trying to circle me.
399
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,760
I said, "Why the hell all y'all
trying to build a circle around me?"
400
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,840
They ain't backed up.
401
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,400
Then they go and say,
"No, we got the kids."
402
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,400
When you got the shotgun and waving it
around, they're holding the kids up? Yeah. What the fuck is that about
if y'all ain't up to nothing?
403
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,400
-[Crane] Your kids?
-My fucking kids.
404
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,040
I'm still begging my auntie to explain
to me what the fuck is happening.
405
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,760
She came at me
to take the fucking gun from me.
406
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Why are you trying to take my gun?
407
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Then I yanked it back,
and she was like, "This is your Titi.'"
408
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,200
And I-- Man, I lost it.
409
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,720
-That's when you pulled the trigger?
-Yeah, man.
410
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640
-Where did you hit her?
-I don't even know, man.
411
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,240
I didn't shoot her in the face
or nothing.
412
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360
I think I just shot. I'm not gonna lie.
413
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680
If I fucking get life
for all this stupid shit,
414
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,040
maybe I shouldn't have pulled
the trigger,
415
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240
but at the time, man,
don't nobody care about me.
416
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,520
[gunshot]
417
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,400
[Crane] All right. So, anyway,
you encountered Mr. Jefferson
418
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,840
in the kitchen,
in front of the refrigerator. Then what happened?
Did you say anything to them?
419
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,960
No. I just looked at him,
he looked at me.
420
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,800
I was like, "Man, why the fuck
are y'all trying to kill me?" And he said,
"Man, this is your stepfather."
421
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,400
-Then what happened?
-And I pulled the trigger.
422
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,760
-[gunshot]
-[Buchanan] I ran.
423
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,800
-Out the house.
-Where did you hit him?
424
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840
I don't know, man.
I never-- I assumed somewhere.
425
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,160
-On the chest?
-I don't know.
426
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,720
-You ran out the house?
-Yeah.
427
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,160
All of a sudden,
I see somebody moving to the right,
428
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,000
and I see it's my kids' mother.
429
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,720
-The gun was out of bullets.
-[Crane] And then what happened?
430
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,920
Then I went in my back pockets
and loaded the gun back up.
431
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,680
-Who was she with then?
-My kids.
432
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,160
-Okay. And your kids?
-Yeah.
433
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,160
-She was running for real.
-You had to run up to catch up to her?
434
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,320
Yeah, she stopped.
I was like, "Come here, Angie!"
435
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,720
I said, "Angie! Angie!"
436
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
You know, she stopped.
You know, I get to her.
437
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,399
I'm, uh, I'm asking her,
"Why all of a sudden..."
438
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,800
You know, "Why all of a sudden--?"
439
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,080
You know, "Why the fuck
are y'all trying to take my life?"
440
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,719
She got these kids.
"Don't you be pointing a gun over."
441
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,360
They're my daughters, I can't--
442
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,440
You know, all of a sudden,
I just lost it for her
443
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,880
for the simple fact that she tried
to set me up several times.
444
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,440
[Crane] Did you shoot her in the face?
Where did you--?
445
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,440
It had to be somewhere, man.
I don't... Man, what I went through--
446
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,760
-Up or down?
-I don't know, it was up.
447
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,640
You know, it was away from my daughter,
that's all I know.
448
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,000
How's she holding the baby?
449
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,040
She holding the baby like this
when I shot.
450
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,200
-On that side?
-Yeah.
451
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960
[indistinct chatter]
452
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,120
[Crane] I don't question
he was under the influence
453
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,240
of-- of a controlled substance.
454
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,680
But that's not a defense.
455
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,080
You know, you can't go,
"Well, yeah, I drank a fifth of whisky
456
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,320
and I don't remember killing the people."
457
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,720
It's not a defense.
So that was off the table.
458
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,800
So I'm trying to charge this case,
and I'm looking at,
459
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,920
is there deliberation
prior to killing somebody?
460
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,880
"Cool reflection" on the matter of killing
another person, no matter how brief,
461
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,360
okay, is deliberation.
462
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Well, in this case,
we had three victims, all right?
463
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,440
In this case, we had each one
of the victim shot by the defendant
464
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,400
with a pump-shotgun.
465
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,760
[Crane] Let me just go over
a couple things.
466
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Number one, now after you shot your aunt,
467
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,400
did you work the pump
on the shotgun immediately?
468
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,280
Yeah. 'Cause I didn't know
what was in front of me.
469
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,880
[Crane] Not only do you have to load
and reload the weapon
470
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,240
to accomplish these three murders
in the first degree,
471
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,040
um, he had to rack that action
every time he fired a shot.
472
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,880
And then when you shot Mr. Jefferson,
did you work the pump on the shotgun?
473
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,800
No, I ran outside. But then I worked it
when I got to the back.
474
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,360
-Okay.
-What the hell was that about?
475
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,280
So then you got your ammo out your pocket
476
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,160
-and you reloaded your shotgun.
-Exactly.
477
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,560
Did you have to jack the action
478
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,560
-to get the tube into the chamber?
-Yeah, yeah, you have to.
479
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,920
That was one of the components of--
of, uh, how I demonstrated to the jury
480
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000
that he "deliberated" on each
of the three victims that he killed.
481
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,280
Honestly, man, it was like
everybody in that house, man,
482
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,520
if I could have caught them all,
I think I would have got them all.
483
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,120
And I ain't playing, man.
484
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,960
And I'm serious,
because they all came together.
485
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560
You still believe
you didn't effectively represent...
486
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,680
[Crane] There's gotta be some
responsibility on the individual here.
487
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,080
You know, I mean,
it starts with the individual.
488
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
[stammers] It's--
You don't blame the drug,
489
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,280
you don't blame the gun,
you blame the individual, yeah.
490
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,440
[McTye] It's been 17 years
as of last November and it's still fresh,
491
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,480
like it just happened yesterday
for some of us, so...
492
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,760
This picture here,
493
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:37,840
Deandra and his mom and Juanita
are standing by each other,
494
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,200
talking to each other.
495
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,360
This is actually June 3rd, 1992,
496
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,080
the day that, uh, my grandfather,
William Jefferson,
497
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,880
married Deandra's mother, Lydia Jefferson.
498
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,320
Deandra was, um,
the groomsman in the wedding.
499
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,400
That's my grandfather, William Jefferson,
500
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,720
Deandra's stepfather,
501
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,480
and one of the people
that he murdered that night.
502
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,920
My grandfather died a hero that night.
503
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,120
He was not gonna let Dre do nothing
to nobody else in the house...
504
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,360
because that's his house,
that was his domain.
505
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,200
My grandfather just...
506
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,600
you know, treated him like a son.
507
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,240
And Dre returned the favor
by putting a bullet in his heart.
508
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,240
Oh, this is Angie with Deandra's two sons.
509
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,800
[clicks tongue] By other women, so...
[clicks tongue]
510
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,960
You know, she was pretty tolerant
of Deandra.
511
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,880
Once I started talking to Angie,
512
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,120
that's when I knew
what was really going on between them,
513
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,480
and the abuse that took place.
514
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,440
[Buchanan] There was a little
domestic abuse.
515
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,320
I ended shaking her up a little bit
516
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,120
because she wouldn't tell me
exactly what I thought I should hear.
517
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,120
[McTye] No, it wasn't just a shake.
518
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,040
I think he chooses
to describe it like that
519
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,240
because he doesn't wanna seem
like the bad guy
520
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,840
when, clearly, he is the bad guy.
521
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,440
Dre had been arrested
for domestic violence against Angie.
522
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,840
Um, and, basically, the incident
523
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,000
was that Angela was pregnant
with her first child,
524
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,520
and he, um,
ran out to the street after her
525
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,800
and started hitting her
with a baseball bat.
526
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560
He came at her with a weapon.
527
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:24,640
He'd been so physically violent to her
in the past
528
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:28,480
that the court had them separated,
you know, like...
529
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,880
The court had made it ordered
that they not be near each other
530
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,080
because of how bad he did Angela.
531
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,320
At the time of Angie's death,
532
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,000
Dre was not even supposed to be
in contact with Angie.
533
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:45,640
But that's how much control he had
over Angie's mental state
534
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:48,240
and how she moved, um...
535
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,080
But, by law, they weren't even supposed
to be in contact with each other.
536
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,880
And, like, she was so afraid of him
537
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,040
that even though he did all that to her
and the police separated them,
538
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,440
she still came back.
539
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,320
You know, she still went back
after he did that to her. [Buchanan] I'm still struggling
trying to figure out why this happened.
540
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,720
Like how the fuck did I allow myself
to do this?
541
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,200
[McTye] Angie, he just cold-bloodedly
murdered her, period.
542
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,160
It was definitely premeditated.
543
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,960
It may not have went
how he had planned it,
544
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,320
but he definitely intended
to kill Angie, period.
545
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,520
Angie could have escaped that night.
546
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,320
But Dre called her back.
547
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,040
She just froze up and went to him
and that's when he shot her in the neck
548
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,440
while she was holding the kids, you know.
549
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,840
She's holding a 5-month-old baby
550
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200
and you shoot her in the neck
like she's a piece of trash.
551
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,880
He took the natural path of an abuser.
Deandra did, you know.
552
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,240
He started out with the gifts
and the spoiling her,
553
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,320
and taking her on trips, and, you know.
554
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,760
He went from that
to "you gotta live with me,"
555
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,200
to "you can't leave the house
unless I say so,"
556
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,760
to "you can't hang out with your family,
557
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,120
you can't be around your friends,"
to killing her.
558
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,480
And it was not drugs that night.
559
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,560
I don't care what he says about him
being high off of any drug that night.
560
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,480
I saw Dre with my own two eyes
ten minutes before this happened.
561
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,640
I know he was not high.
562
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:53,240
I know he was not induced
into some type of psychosis
563
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,760
because of drug use.
564
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,720
That's a false, patented lie
that he likes to tell.
565
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,640
The other people that were there
that night were really collateral damage,
566
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,880
to what he intended to do
to Angie anyways, you know?
567
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,840
And he had no reason to kill Juanita.
568
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,840
He definitely had no reason
to kill my grandfather.
569
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,560
[exhales] Man, the most important thing
I can tell them is I'm sorry, man.
570
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,800
Seriously, I'm sorry.
571
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,800
And... [clicks tongue]
572
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,600
I continue to make sure that I do
what I need to do to better myself
573
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,600
so that I will never be that person again.
574
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,560
Regardless if they ever know that,
regardless of who knows that.
575
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,400
I know that I'm not that same person.
I know that for a fact.
576
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,440
[Buchanan] I'm still struggling trying
to figure out why this happened.
577
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Over these years, I wrestle,
578
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,600
like, how the fuck
did I allow myself to do this?
579
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,280
How did I allow myself to shoot my aunt,
my girl, and my stepfather?
580
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,200
Shoot my girl
while she holding my daughter?
581
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,040
I do believe that Deandra
was planning to murder Angie, yes.
582
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,320
The other people that were there
that night were really collateral damage
583
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,960
to what he intended to do
to Angie anyways. I don't-- No. No.
584
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:59,080
Because if that was the case,
I could have been done that.
585
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,400
Shit, if I wanted to kill her,
I could have been killed her.
586
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,480
And the only thing I keep concluding is,
this chemical that I got my hands on,
587
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,600
that I wasn't aware of,
caused me to react like this.
588
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,000
And when you compile that
with my lifestyle,
589
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,360
way before I even met Angela--
590
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,320
'Cause see, like I said,
I was violent before I even met her.
591
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,720
I been involved in all kind of violence
592
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,960
where I done seen people lose their life.
593
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,720
I mean, it's nothing to be proud of
now I think back on it.
594
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,680
But back then,
we thought that was the thing to do.
595
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,440
I'm gonna react a certain way based on
the way I've been living and conditioned.
596
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,360
"Cool reflection" on the matter
of killing another person,
597
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,000
no matter how brief
is deliberation, okay?
598
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,680
I demonstrated to the jury
that he deliberated
599
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,400
on each of the three victims
that he killed.
600
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,680
This wasn't no planned situation.
601
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,240
I didn't sit back and calculate and say,
"Okay, this is what I'm fittin' to do."
602
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,080
I didn't say I'm fittin'
to go kill my girlfriend.
603
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,960
I didn't say I was fittin' to go kill
my auntie.
604
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,960
I didn't say I was fittin' to kill
my stepfather.
605
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,440
Not one time did I sit back and say,
"This is what I'm fittin' to do today."
606
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,080
No. Hell no.
607
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,040
According to everything, including myself,
and everybody that was there that night,
608
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,200
I just flipped out.
609
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
That wasn't no premeditated,
planned-out situation.
610
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,480
What I truly believed that night
was the contributing factor was that door,
611
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,240
and somebody coming into that house,
612
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,520
and them not opening up that bedroom door
to let me see who was in there.
613
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,760
I truly believe that's what contributed
to me reacting the way I did that night.
614
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,280
[McTye] No, it wasn't just a shake.
615
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,360
Dre ran out to the street after her
616
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,440
and started hitting her
with a baseball bat.
617
00:47:55,720 --> 00:48:01,560
Angela showed me where Deandra
had beat her with a wire hanger.
618
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,640
And she showed me welts
from the top of her neck,
619
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,040
to her knees, where he just whooped her
and whooped her.
620
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Hold on, stop that for a minute.
621
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,800
That's a... Man--
622
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,440
[chuckles]
623
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Let me tell you something, man.
624
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,320
I ain't never whopped her
with no clothes hanger.
625
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,920
This is what really be
kind of frustrating me, not to say, "Fuck them all."
626
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,480
And I-- That type of stuff there
627
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,640
is the type of shit
that be kinda, like, getting me upset.
628
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,480
Because even to this day,
you still would put that out there
629
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,560
like I used a clothes hanger to whoop her.
630
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,560
Like I'm some type of gorilla pimping
or some shit.
631
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:50,880
And see, this is the thing
be kinda getting me a little...
632
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,520
I'm not going to say upset
'cause I understand what I done.
633
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,720
But it gets...
634
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,640
I'm serious, it gets real struggling,
because, usually, I'm like--
635
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:06,160
Eighteen years, I've been doing, you know,
everything I can to make amends,
636
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:07,840
and then when you hear stuff like that,
637
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,640
that's what really be getting me
kind of disturbed,
638
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,080
when you would add some falsehood
to tell your side of a story
639
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,720
to try to continue to put me
in a negative light.
640
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,040
And I'm being honest with you.
641
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,600
It be kind of frustrating me for real.
642
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,040
That regardless to what they say,
how they say it,
643
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,960
or how they believe, or what they feel,
644
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,640
I'm fittin' to attack this case,
and a lot of them gonna be upset.
645
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,080
They can bombard the court house,
they can contact the prosecutors.
646
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,800
I wouldn't even care.
647
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,760
For that-- For that type of stuff there
lets me know
648
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,760
after 18 years,
who's to say I could ever trust them?
649
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,600
I'm serious.
And this is how I have to think.
650
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,720
Based on what I just heard,
who's to say that when I get out of here,
651
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,720
I can honestly say I can be safe
in an environment where they at?
652
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,680
No, I can't do it.