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[wind whooshing]
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[man] They tried to make it look
like I murdered some guy in cold blood.
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And that's not what happened.
I'm a victim of a hate crime.
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[man] It tore me apart
when I found out he died.
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Him being another American Indian
brother, you know what I mean?
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I mean, that's like killing
my biological brother. That's how I felt.
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[music swells]
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[music fades]
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[theme music plays]
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[man 1] I think
we could all be dangerous people.
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[man 2] People say you're a monster.
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[man 3] I'm not sitting here
saying I'm innocent.
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[man 4] I just murdered
some guy in cold blood.
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[theme song fades]
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[intriguing guitar music playing]
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[Makueeyapee] I was born in Montana.
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1980. November 13th, 1980.
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They brought me back in a cardboard box
to the Blackfeet Indian Reservation
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because we didn't have the money to afford
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a car seat or anything. Know what I mean?
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Everybody thinks
America is a place that is rich.
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But what they don't understand
is that American Indian reservations,
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we're... we're third world countries.
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My grandfather was Chief Running Crane,
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who was the last chief
of the Blackfeet Indian Nation.
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My dad was full-blooded Indian.
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That was part of
the heritage that I grew up in.
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But on my mom's side, they're all white.
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My childhood
was a rollercoaster ride. Yeah.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[Makueeyapee] My mother had seven kids,
and we're all from different fathers.
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She'd move from place to place, all over.
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I've been in Montana, I've been in Idaho,
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Washington, California, Oregon,
all throughout the Northwest.
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The happiest time in my life
was when I was about eight years old,
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and we lived in Idaho with my stepdad.
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He lived on a ranch.
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I'd go out doing fence with him
and everything like that.
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We'd chase off coyotes.
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But he started beating my mom, and, uh,
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that's why my mom eventually left.
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So, I hopped off
the rollercoaster ride with my mother
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and moved in with my uncles.
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[Makueeyapee] It was wild.
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The east side of Tacoma
was the worst sector in Washington State.
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It had the highest murder rate.
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It was filled with gang violence.
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I was part of
that criminal lifestyle, I suppose.
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My uncles worked full-time,
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and they didn't mind me
running around doing what I was doing.
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I'd wake up and start
moving around from house to house,
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and yeah, it was
nothing but criminal activity all over.
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[Makueeyapee] I got my 18 money,
bought a car, everything like that.
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And I started spending money.
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Drinking, getting high, whatever,
you know, just partying around.
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And, uh, I ran out of money.
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And, uh... You know,
I didn't know what else to do.
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So, I robbed a hotel.
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And, uh, it's kind of funny.
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I didn't get nothing
out of that robbery at all.
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It was an old woman.
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And I decided that,
"I'm not gonna rob this lady."
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But I had already went in there and
had the gun out and everything like that,
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and pointed it at her,
and I'm looking at her, and I'm, like,
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"I'm not gonna do this."
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[intriguing music playing]
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[Makueeyapee] I ended up
getting robbery in the first,
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assault, assault, assault in the second,
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eluding the police,
and a deadly weapon enhancement
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because the three assaults
in the second degree was for
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supposedly driving the vehicles
off the road.
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[dramatic sting]
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[Makueeyapee] My dad said, "When you go to
prison, take it as a college experience."
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And that's exactly what I did.
I studied my butt off.
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I... I didn't have
no schooling either at that time
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because I basic...
I dropped out in about seventh grade.
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But I grabbed book after book after book.
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And that's how my writing got so good.
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[soft guitar music playing]
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[Makueeyapee] When I got to the joint,
I was the youngest one on the yard.
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The brothers seen it, and they
started training me and everything,
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about our traditional way of life.
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It was called the Indians of All Tribes.
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It was all about Native pride.
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One of the first things they did
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was give me the drum to hold
as a drum carrier.
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Because it's the heartbeat of the people.
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And I found myself.
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[hopeful music playing]
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[Makueeyapee] From that point,
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I started doing very well
in my whole life.
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Within two months of being out,
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I met my baby's mama,
and, uh, we just hit it off.
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A month after that,
she's pregnant with my son.
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And then I end up having my daughter
within ten months of when my son was born.
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I loved it.
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My kids were my pride and joy.
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I was going to college full-time,
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and I started doing good.
I was a 4.0 GPA student.
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I was on the dean's list
at the Blackfeet Community College.
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I wanted to get my PhD in Native American
studies, in Native American law.
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{\an8}Specifically treaty rights and stuff,
and casino rights.
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{\an8}My way of life
is the Blackfeet Indian way of life.
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But I also believe in
the unity of our people.
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I know different songs
from different tribes.
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I'll sing everybody's songs.
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Whereas some people, it's all about
their tribe versus my tribe,
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or this tribe versus that tribe.
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It should be about the unity
of our people, not the disunity.
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And tribalism,
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that was kind of one of the things
that happened with this homicide.
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[intriguing music playing]
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[Makueeyapee]
My friend Adrian After Buffalo,
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him and his wife were having issues,
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and he wanted to get back with his wife.
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She was over in... in Polson, Montana.
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He started looking for a ride.
I said, "I can take you over to Polson,
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and you can find your wife and your kids."
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So we headed over there.
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[music continues]
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[Makueeyapee] We rented a hotel and stuff.
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I bought a 30-pack of Budweisers.
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I told him, I said,
"You can drive, and I'll just sit back."
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That's what we did.
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We started cruising around,
going from one spot to the next.
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We checked some of the bars.
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Right before closing,
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we ended up
getting invited to a house party.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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We get over to the house party,
and I said,
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"Well, back up there, and we'll
pop the trunk, and we'll listen to music."
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I was feeling good.
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But, uh, the party was more inside
than it was outside.
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So I decided,
"Well, maybe I'll... I'll go inside."
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When I went in, I tried to make a joke
to try to fucking break the ice.
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I said, "Hey, man,
where are all the Blackfeet at?"
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And I looked like this,
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because this obviously
is the Flathead Indian Reservation.
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It's not the Blackfeet Indian Reservation.
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I wanted it to be a funny little joke just
to kind of introduce myself to this group.
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Some guy... Some kid standing next to me...
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looks over at me, and he says... he says,
"Shit, motherfuckers get fucking...
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get their asses fucking jumped
for talking shit like that around here."
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These guys had some kind of issue
with Blackfeet, Salish, Kootenai
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rivalry that dates back to the 1800s.
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But, uh, I didn't know any of that.
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I didn't know that Salish and Kootenai,
there was things going on there.
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And automatically I'm, like,
[blows] "Whoa."
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I'm in a house
standing next to a group of people
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and... that I don't know,
and you're talking about jumping me?
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I didn't even say nothing
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that I would consider,
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uh, any kind of derogatory statement.
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And one thing that I learned in prison
is don't show fear.
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Don't show fear,
because the moment that you show fear,
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these guys are gonna jump you.
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I had a knife because that's the
number one thing we protect ourselves with
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on the reservations.
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And I... I pull out my knife, and I said,
"Look, man, if anybody tries to jump me,
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I will defend myself."
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[tense music playing]
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Another guy turned around, and he says,
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"You know, uh, we all got knives in here."
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Pulled out his knife.
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His knife was like that.
That was just the blade.
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And I'm looking at them, and I'm, like...
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"All right. We all got knives. [chuckles]
You just calm down."
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And I turned back around,
and I walked out.
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And I took a deep breath 'cause
I was outside. I was like... [exhales]
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"All right, you're outside."
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"You're cool."
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This guy, John Pierre, Jr.,
comes out of the shadows,
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comes walking right up to me
like he's going to fight me.
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[dramatic sting]
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He said, "Hey, you know what?"
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He said, "You know, Blackfeet
and Salish Kootenai are archenemies."
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I said, "Look, man, I ain't even
about that. I'm about Native pride."
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"I ain't about all that."
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He just kind of looked at me.
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And I started walking towards my car.
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And then all these people
come walking out...
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[music swells]
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...coming surrounding me.
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John Pierre, Jr. came at me.
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That's when I struck out
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and stabbed this guy.
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[engine starts]
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[tense music continues]
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[Makueeyapee]
It was self-defense from a hate crime.
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I stabbed this guy one single time.
That was it.
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[uneasy music playing]
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I knew that those guys had knives.
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I felt that they were gonna come jump me.
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Why were these guys targeting me?
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Because I was Blackfeet.
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That's a hate crime.
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That's what it comes down to.
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[music fades]
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[intriguing music playing]
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[man] I was working patrol.
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{\an8}Another officer and myself
were, uh, dispatched
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{\an8}to a loud party disturbance.
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Just go ask them to quiet it down.
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We got two to three blocks away
from that address,
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and, uh, we got told
that there had been a stabbing.
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[music continues]
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This is the place.
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And there was young men and young women
running from the scene down the driveway,
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running around our vehicles.
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As I got closer,
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I could see
a group of people around a male
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that was sitting on the ground here.
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That was John Pierre.
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I've known him for a long time.
I've known the family a long time.
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And when I... [sighs]
...uh, went up and talked to John,
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he... he did not respond back to me.
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[sighs]
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I... I would say that he was
already in a state of shock.
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The small amount of blood
that, uh, that was coming out of his shirt
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made me believe that he had
a substantial bleed internally.
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I... I talked to him until we finally...
He... He went unconscious.
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And we laid him back, checked for pulse,
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and then we started CPR.
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[soft music playing]
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[music swells]
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[Donald Bell] You know, we deal with
a lot of bad things, and
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it always, uh, is hard when
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somebody from the community,
uh, dies senseless like this. So...
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[soft music continues]
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[exhales]
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[dramatic sting]
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[unsettling music playing]
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[dramatic sting]
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We have the motel surrounded.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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We knock on the door, and the person
that comes to the door is Mr. Whitford.
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The room is quite in disarray.
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Garbage on the floor.
Blankets on the floor.
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He initially denies
even being at the party.
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Then he admitted that he had been there,
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but denied any, uh, part
of an altercation.
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When we have somebody that we're
talking to and they change their story,
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what are you trying to cover up?
250
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Why would you do that?
An average person has nothing to hide.
251
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But that's just how some people operate
when they try to get out of trouble.
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[dramatic sting]
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[Makueeyapee, on recording] The cops came
to my room, and I tried to bullshit them.
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I'll be the first one to admit I was
scared as hell to... to even say anything.
255
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That's part of my raising.
256
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Don't talk to the cops. Don't say nothing.
257
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You know? We have
a very deep distrust for the cops.
258
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My... My uncle David was shot and killed
by the Tacoma Police Department.
259
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We don't... We don't trust
the cops for nothing.
260
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[uneasy music playing]
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[breathes deeply]
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Just because somebody in some other place
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had been treated poorly
by law enforcement,
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um, doesn't justify not trusting us
that we're going to do our job here.
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So, I think that was his motivation,
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is to lie to try to get out of, uh,
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the consequences
for his actions that night.
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To me, he's not
showing any remorse for it.
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Um, he's not happy that he was caught,
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and he did not want to be
held accountable, uh, for what he'd done.
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[dramatic sting]
272
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[soft guitar music playing]
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[woman] The state,
their version of the events
274
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was to paint Whitford as the only
aggressor of the... of the evening.
275
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But the concept just really didn't add up.
276
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Whether it was justified or not,
277
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in any argument or fight, there has to be
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{\an8}two people to engage.
279
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{\an8}There had to have been some interaction.
280
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So, I personally found Mak's
version of the events to be credible.
281
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[guitar music continues]
282
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My name is Jennifer Streano.
I was Mr. Whitford's trial attorney.
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You are parole eligible
at a quarter of your time.
284
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He received a 60-year sentence,
285
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which means he should be
parole eligible in 15 years.
286
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And the judge put
a 25-year parole restriction,
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which would equate to him
receiving a sentence of 100 years.
288
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It is a brutal outcome.
289
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Everything that he worked his adult life
to try to regain is now gone.
290
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[dramatic music playing]
291
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You know, all of that because of
a two-to-three-second decision.
292
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You know, that's heartbreaking.
293
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[music continues]
294
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[kettle whistling softly]
295
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[whistling stops]
296
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Legally, Mak committed a homicide.
297
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There's no question about that.
298
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I'm sure he regrets that decision.
299
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A life was lost,
and that's the ultimate tragedy.
300
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But it is legally allowed
to commit a homicide
301
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if you're afraid for your own life.
302
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And so that's really where
the question comes down to.
303
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Did Mak make that split-second decision
because he was afraid for his own life,
304
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or because he was angry or defensive,
305
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or just, um, overreacted?
306
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It's completely understandable
that Mak would react
307
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impulsively in those circumstances.
308
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He had... had a pretty rough upbringing.
309
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And his trauma definitely
played into how he responded that night.
310
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[music fades]
311
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[birdsong]
312
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{\an8}[pensive guitar music playing]
313
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[woman] Sometimes violence is so shocking
314
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that I think it just kind of
overshadows all the good things.
315
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After Mak got out of prison in Washington,
316
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he honestly was on this path
where he was amazing.
317
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{\an8}[music continues]
318
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{\an8}He was doing everything he could
to make his life stable
319
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{\an8}and really push towards
advocacy for the Natives.
320
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And that was really important to him.
That was a huge thing.
321
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It is a tragedy to me
that it didn't work out.
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But I think that Mak reacted
323
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in the only way
he knew how at that moment.
324
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My name is Amie,
and I am Makueeyapee's sister.
325
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Mak's dad was a Blackfeet National,
and my dad is Cherokee.
326
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But we share a mother.
327
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She came from a really bad background,
a really hard background.
328
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She had kids very young, at 12 years old.
329
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She was 16 when she had me.
330
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[Amie] At that time, the government
could come in and take children,
331
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and it was perfectly legal.
332
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Our adoption mentally broke our mother
333
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in ways that she was
never able to get back from.
334
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It left something,
just a hole there that she couldn't fill.
335
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Nothing was ever stable or normal.
336
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She inevitably made really horrible
choices when it came to men.
337
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A lot of alcohol, drugs,
338
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a lot of physical and verbal abuse.
339
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[wind chime tinkles]
340
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Mak grew up with that.
341
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[soft music playing]
342
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,760
[music fades]
343
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[Makueeyapee, on recording] My first
incident with violence, I was three.
344
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These two children
that lived across the street from us,
345
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we always used to play
in the mud puddles and stuff.
346
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[voice breaking] It's... It's hard.
347
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It's hard to talk about.
348
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,000
[Makueeyapee clears throat]
349
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That ended up coming to a close,
uh, with our next-door neighbor,
350
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who I guess had been having an affair
with my mother,
351
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and I didn't know it. Um...
352
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We went over there.
She took me and my sister,
353
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and there was an argument in the house.
354
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He ended up shooting his, uh, wife
five times in the chest
355
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with a .357 Magnum. And...
356
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[inhales deeply]
357
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This lady died in my mom's arms.
358
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,080
I don't remember where that guy went,
but when the cops caught up with him,
359
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,080
he'd ended up shooting his kids
once in the stomach, killing both of them,
360
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,480
and himself in the head.
361
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Shot himself in the head.
362
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[sighs] And, uh...
363
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all I could do was grab my sister
and cover her up and hold her. And...
364
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I could tell you
other violence and stuff that happened.
365
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But that was how my life started.
366
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[voice breaking] Just...
That's a real powerful memory.
367
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,760
[soft music playing]
368
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,160
I feel for the child that Mak was,
because going through that was,
369
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I'm sure, absolutely hideous.
370
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,880
He's, from his youngest age,
dealt with the reality
371
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that these men can kill you.
372
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You know, that was a life lesson
that I don't think he ever lost.
373
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I think that it definitely speaks
374
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why he would react so violently
375
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to being in a situation
where he felt that he was in trouble.
376
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,760
Somebody tries to hurt you,
377
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,520
and you go straight back to childhood
and protecting yourself.
378
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,320
[music swells]
379
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,520
The Pierre family have
every right to be angry at Mak.
380
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,480
John Pierre never should've died.
381
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,880
But I don't think Mak meant to kill him.
382
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,840
I think he just wanted to get away
before he got hurt.
383
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,120
[music fades]
384
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120
{\an8}[unsettling music playing]
385
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{\an8}[man] Way in there like that.
386
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440
- How are we? Yep. Throw him in there.
- There he is!
387
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,600
Good job. Then bury him.
You ready? Go. Go.
388
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,480
- Very classy, buddy. Yeah.
- [child babbles]
389
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,480
[unsettling music playing]
390
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,720
[Magnus Harlow] I got up to that party
about three o'clock in the morning.
391
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Everybody's partying outside.
392
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440
Everybody's laughing.
393
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,520
As I'm going into the house,
I ran into Whitford.
394
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,160
[unsettling music continues]
395
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Whitford was a little bit tense.
396
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760
The Blackfoot Reservation
and this reservation
397
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,960
{\an8}are... two completely different... uh...
398
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,520
pieces of earth, man.
399
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,920
Is there still that mistrust
between our two tribes?
400
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,840
Yeah.
401
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,520
We started talking, and he says,
"Hey, do you know all these people here?"
402
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,240
And I said, yeah.
I said, "Yep. I know 'em all."
403
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,640
Like, out of nowhere, he just stops
in the middle of our conversation,
404
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,640
and he decides to, you know,
share with me, you know, that,
405
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,520
"I'm feeling threatened."
406
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,200
It was, like... [fingers snap]
407
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,680
... some switch.
408
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,000
He says, well... He...
409
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,920
He takes a knife out of his pocket,
a paring knife,
410
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,360
and it's got white tape or duct tape
around the... around the handle.
411
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,720
And he says,
"This is for anybody who wants to, uh,
412
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400
you know, try to talk shit
or start some shit."
413
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,840
And I was, like, "Put that away!"
414
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,760
I was, like, "All these people here
are my family and friends."
415
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,800
I was, like, "Everybody's cool here."
416
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,000
God knows what could be
going through his head, you know.
417
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080
The guy looks like he's seen some shit.
418
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440
[unsettling music playing]
419
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880
[Magnus Harlow]
We start having a conversation.
420
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,560
And, uh, Whitford
or Adrian said, " Piikani."
421
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,040
I remember it just, like,
hitting John in the face like a punch.
422
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,040
Piikani is brother in Blackfeet.
423
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,320
And John says, uh,
424
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,880
"So, you're Blackfeet?"
425
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,320
And he says, "Yeah."
And John says, "I'm Kootenai."
426
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,120
And, uh, Kootenai and Blackfeet have been
sworn enemies for hundreds of years.
427
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,800
I think what John was doing was kind of
trying to establish that dominance.
428
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,120
"This is my reservation,
you know, and if, uh...
429
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,760
if you got problems or whatever,
we can handle it."
430
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,360
And fights happen, you know.
People get beat up sometimes.
431
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,360
So, my first thought of it... of it is,
"Don't let it go any farther than this."
432
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
I remember trying to defuse the situation.
433
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,640
"No, that was hundreds of years ago, man.
Times... Times have changed."
434
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,720
[unsettling music continues]
435
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,880
I'm in there for maybe
a minute and a half,
436
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,920
two minutes.
437
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,080
My friend runs in the house and says,
"They stabbed John."
438
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,160
"They stabbed John!
Get out here right now!"
439
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,600
So, I take off running outside.
440
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,600
John was laying down on the ground.
441
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,680
He wasn't responding to... anything.
442
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520
He's still breathing. And, uh...
443
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,280
[inhales]
444
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,200
[clears throat]
445
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600
[sighs] There was nothing
we could do about it.
446
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,160
[exhales]
447
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,440
[soft music playing]
448
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,640
John believed in throwing hands.
449
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Maybe a little fight, you know, that's
probably what he wanted or whatever.
450
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,480
But he did not deserve to die.
451
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,240
John was a family man.
452
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,800
Took care of his two sons.
453
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,680
They were the center of his universe.
454
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,880
He should still be here. And he should
be with his family and his loved ones.
455
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,200
And he can't.
456
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960
I think Whitford was paranoid.
457
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:26,680
I met him for 15 minutes,
and he took away a lot of people's friend,
458
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200
brother, father, and uncle.
459
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,400
So, I couldn't care less about Whitford.
460
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,760
[music fades]
461
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,680
[unsettling music playing]
462
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,280
[man] I believe that Mr. Whitford
believes in his own mind
463
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200
that he does nothing wrong,
464
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640
and everybody else
is out to get him or hurt him.
465
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,520
And he's had that hardwired
into him since he was young.
466
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,440
{\an8}My name is John Todd.
I'm one of the jail commanders
467
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,080
{\an8}for the Lake County Sheriff's Office
in Polson, Montana.
468
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,720
{\an8}I was one of the senior guys in the jail
at the time Mr. Whitford was here.
469
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
{\an8}Mr. Whitford could be violent,
470
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,520
{\an8}and often was.
471
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,040
If he didn't get his way,
then he immediately went to the violence.
472
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,640
We never knew
from one minute to the other,
473
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,840
are we gonna be fighting with this guy,
rolling around on the floor,
474
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,520
or is he gonna cooperate with us?
475
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,120
He was, I'd have to say, kind of a bully.
476
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,080
{\an8}He would poke at the smaller, weaker guys
477
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,960
{\an8}and just poke and poke and poke
until they exploded.
478
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,200
And then he would hurt them,
or attempt to hurt them.
479
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,280
And then it was never his fault.
480
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,080
He was, "They did it.
They started it. It was their fault."
481
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,640
Even though he was the one doing
the poking and the... and the prodding.
482
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,720
[suspenseful music playing]
483
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,240
He'd always say, "Well, I'm Blackfeet."
484
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,240
"And this is the Salish and Kootenai
reservation that we're on."
485
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,680
And he was instantly
on the, uh, defensive with whoever it was.
486
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,680
He just chose to believe that he was
being oppressed and... and picked on,
487
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,240
and so his... his reaction was to fight.
488
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,720
That was just Mr. Whitford.
489
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,600
[suspenseful music continues]
490
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,720
[music fades]
491
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,920
[soft music playing]
492
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:39,040
[man] Whitford's position was
that he was the victim of a hate crime.
493
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,600
But there wasn't anything much
to support his version of the events.
494
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,000
All of the other witnesses,
all of the other evidence and so forth
495
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,080
seemed to be contrary
to what his self-defense claim was.
496
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,920
[music fades]
497
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,560
[pensive music playing]
498
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,400
{\an8}The Blackfeet and the Salish
were historically at war.
499
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,800
{\an8}But that was 170 years ago.
500
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,800
While there may still be sometimes
some, uh, competition or tension,
501
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,920
in the meantime,
they've intermarried and interacted.
502
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,600
And a lot of Blackfeet come over here
503
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,440
and attend the college here
or get jobs here.
504
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,160
{\an8}So, Whitford's position
that he was surrounded by Salish,
505
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,120
and therefore it was a hate crime
and he had to defend himself,
506
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880
wasn't a very persuasive argument.
507
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,760
There was no reason for any of this.
508
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,440
I sentenced Whitford to 60 years in prison
509
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:53,240
with a minimum of 25 years before he would
be considered or eligible for parole.
510
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,360
I thought that that was a fair sentence.
511
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,240
The consequences to John Pierre
were pretty darn serious too.
512
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,480
[music fades]
513
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,840
[Makueeyapee, on recording] I should've
never even got a sentence.
514
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,080
I should have been... I should have
walked out of that courtroom.
515
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,800
You know, this was self-defense.
516
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,440
They didn't like the fact that I had
mentioned anything about being Blackfeet.
517
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,240
It's a hate crime
because of my nationality.
518
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,720
Their nationality as a Kootenai nation
519
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,280
and my nationality as a Blackfeet tribal.
520
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,720
{\an8}That's what it comes down to.
521
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,360
[pensive music playing]
522
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,280
Well, it's troubling
to hear him, uh, speak like that,
523
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,280
because in his mind, he did nothing wrong.
524
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,920
Most people, even honest people,
525
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,680
recreate an event in their mind,
often subconsciously,
526
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,000
so that it's consistent
with their psychological needs.
527
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,320
I suspect that some of that was in play.
528
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Mr. Whitford
and the fellow he was riding with,
529
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,000
they'd had something like 30 beers
before they ever got to this party.
530
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,760
Whether he could remember accurately his
emotions or motives or why he did things,
531
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080
I find that... questionable.
532
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,600
From what I understand about
Mr. Whitford's behavior
533
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,760
in prison since then, he hasn't changed.
534
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,800
For his sake,
I hope he will at some point.
535
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,240
Because otherwise he'll probably
spend the rest of his life in jail.
536
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,920
If I were to ask him one thing,
it would be,
537
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,400
"After all this,
have you learned nothing?"
538
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,640
"Have you learned
no lesson from this tragedy?"
539
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,840
He killed another human being,
and that doesn't seem to bother him.
540
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,360
He's only feeling sorry for himself.
541
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,880
[pensive music continues]
542
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,000
[clears throat]
543
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,880
[music fades]
544
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,960
[end theme music playing]
545
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,000
[music fades]