1 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,640 They tried to make it look like I murdered some guy in cold blood. 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,360 And that's not what happened. I'm a victim of a hate crime. 3 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,760 It tore me apart when I found out he died. 4 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,560 Him being another American Indian brother, you know what I mean? 5 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,400 I mean, that's like killing my biological brother. That's how I felt. 6 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,960 I think we could all be dangerous people. 7 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:16,440 People say you're a monster. 8 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880 I'm not sitting here saying I'm innocent. 9 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,240 I just murdered some guy in cold blood. 10 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,120 I was born in Montana. 11 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,920 1980. November 13th, 1980. 12 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 They brought me back in a cardboard box to the Blackfeet Indian Reservation 13 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,120 because we didn't have the money to afford 14 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,160 a car seat or anything. Know what I mean? 15 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,760 Everybody thinks America is a place that is rich. 16 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,560 But what they don't understand is that American Indian reservations, 17 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,480 we're... we're third world countries. 18 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,200 My grandfather was Chief Running Crane, 19 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,240 who was the last chief of the Blackfeet Indian Nation. 20 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,680 My dad was full-blooded Indian. 21 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,560 That was part of the heritage that I grew up in. 22 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,000 But on my mom's side, they're all white. 23 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,000 My childhood was a rollercoaster ride. Yeah. 24 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:12,880 My mother had seven kids, and we're all from different fathers. 25 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,240 She'd move from place to place, all over. 26 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,000 I've been in Montana, I've been in Idaho, 27 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,200 Washington, California, Oregon, all throughout the Northwest. 28 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,080 The happiest time in my life was when I was about eight years old, 29 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 and we lived in Idaho with my stepdad. 30 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,400 He lived on a ranch. 31 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 I'd go out doing fence with him and everything like that. 32 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,920 We'd chase off coyotes. 33 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,040 But he started beating my mom, and, uh, 34 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,120 that's why my mom eventually left. 35 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,280 So, I hopped off the rollercoaster ride with my mother 36 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,120 and moved in with my uncles. 37 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,160 It was wild. 38 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,000 The east side of Tacoma was the worst sector in Washington State. 39 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,800 It had the highest murder rate. 40 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,840 It was filled with gang violence. 41 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:27,640 I was part of that criminal lifestyle, I suppose. 42 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,000 My uncles worked full-time, 43 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,200 and they didn't mind me running around doing what I was doing. 44 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,880 I'd wake up and start moving around from house to house, 45 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 and yeah, it was nothing but criminal activity all over. 46 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,720 I got my 18 money, bought a car, everything like that. 47 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,680 And I started spending money. 48 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,920 Drinking, getting high, whatever, you know, just partying around. 49 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,720 And, uh, I ran out of money. 50 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,520 And, uh... You know, I didn't know what else to do. 51 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,880 So, I robbed a hotel. 52 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,120 And, uh, it's kind of funny. 53 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,600 I didn't get nothing out of that robbery at all. 54 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,160 It was an old woman. 55 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,640 And I decided that, "I'm not gonna rob this lady." 56 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,160 But I had already went in there and had the gun out and everything like that, 57 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,920 and pointed it at her, and I'm looking at her, and I'm, like, 58 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,200 "I'm not gonna do this." 59 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,160 I ended up getting robbery in the first, 60 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,320 assault, assault, assault in the second, 61 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,880 eluding the police, and a deadly weapon enhancement 62 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,160 because the three assaults in the second degree was for 63 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,920 supposedly driving the vehicles off the road. 64 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,760 My dad said, "When you go to prison, take it as a college experience." 65 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,920 And that's exactly what I did. I studied my butt off. 66 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,720 I... I didn't have no schooling either at that time 67 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,320 because I basic... I dropped out in about seventh grade. 68 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,880 But I grabbed book after book after book. 69 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,800 And that's how my writing got so good. 70 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,040 When I got to the joint, I was the youngest one on the yard. 71 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,640 The brothers seen it, and they started training me and everything, 72 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,800 about our traditional way of life. 73 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,640 It was called the Indians of All Tribes. 74 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:56,840 It was all about Native pride. 75 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,200 One of the first things they did 76 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,040 was give me the drum to hold as a drum carrier. 77 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Because it's the heartbeat of the people. 78 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,320 And I found myself. 79 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,640 From that point, 80 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,600 I started doing very well in my whole life. 81 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,800 Within two months of being out, 82 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,240 I met my baby's mama, and, uh, we just hit it off. 83 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,000 A month after that, she's pregnant with my son. 84 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,160 And then I end up having my daughter within ten months of when my son was born. 85 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,880 I loved it. 86 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,280 My kids were my pride and joy. 87 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,880 I was going to college full-time, 88 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,000 and I started doing good. I was a 4.0 GPA student. 89 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,720 I was on the dean's list at the Blackfeet Community College. 90 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,040 I wanted to get my PhD in Native American studies, in Native American law. 91 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,720 {\an8}Specifically treaty rights and stuff, and casino rights. 92 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,920 {\an8}My way of life is the Blackfeet Indian way of life. 93 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:42,600 But I also believe in the unity of our people. 94 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,520 I know different songs from different tribes. 95 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,280 I'll sing everybody's songs. 96 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Whereas some people, it's all about their tribe versus my tribe, 97 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,640 or this tribe versus that tribe. 98 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,680 It should be about the unity of our people, not the disunity. 99 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,680 And tribalism, 100 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:03,520 that was kind of one of the things that happened with this homicide. 101 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:16,760 My friend Adrian After Buffalo, 102 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,600 him and his wife were having issues, 103 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,720 and he wanted to get back with his wife. 104 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,960 She was over in... in Polson, Montana. 105 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,480 He started looking for a ride. I said, "I can take you over to Polson, 106 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,840 and you can find your wife and your kids." 107 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,520 So we headed over there. 108 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,600 We rented a hotel and stuff. 109 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,760 I bought a 30-pack of Budweisers. 110 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,640 I told him, I said, "You can drive, and I'll just sit back." 111 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:09,920 That's what we did. 112 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,880 We started cruising around, going from one spot to the next. 113 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,560 We checked some of the bars. 114 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,320 Right before closing, 115 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,080 we ended up getting invited to a house party. 116 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 We get over to the house party, and I said, 117 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,560 "Well, back up there, and we'll pop the trunk, and we'll listen to music." 118 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,120 I was feeling good. 119 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,400 But, uh, the party was more inside than it was outside. 120 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,600 So I decided, "Well, maybe I'll... I'll go inside." 121 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,720 When I went in, I tried to make a joke to try to fucking break the ice. 122 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,200 I said, "Hey, man, where are all the Blackfeet at?" 123 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,800 And I looked like this, 124 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,480 because this obviously is the Flathead Indian Reservation. 125 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,640 It's not the Blackfeet Indian Reservation. 126 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,160 I wanted it to be a funny little joke just to kind of introduce myself to this group. 127 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Some guy... Some kid standing next to me... 128 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,280 looks over at me, and he says... he says, "Shit, motherfuckers get fucking... 129 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,560 get their asses fucking jumped for talking shit like that around here." 130 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,360 These guys had some kind of issue with Blackfeet, Salish, Kootenai 131 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,040 rivalry that dates back to the 1800s. 132 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,160 But, uh, I didn't know any of that. 133 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,600 I didn't know that Salish and Kootenai, there was things going on there. 134 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,240 And automatically I'm, like, "Whoa." 135 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,240 I'm in a house standing next to a group of people 136 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,080 and... that I don't know, and you're talking about jumping me? 137 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,760 I didn't even say nothing 138 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,880 that I would consider, 139 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,480 uh, any kind of derogatory statement. 140 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,280 And one thing that I learned in prison is don't show fear. 141 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Don't show fear, because the moment that you show fear, 142 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,800 these guys are gonna jump you. 143 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,360 I had a knife because that's the number one thing we protect ourselves with 144 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,440 on the reservations. 145 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,280 And I... I pull out my knife, and I said, "Look, man, if anybody tries to jump me, 146 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,840 I will defend myself." 147 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Another guy turned around, and he says, 148 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,360 "You know, uh, we all got knives in here." 149 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Pulled out his knife. 150 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,760 His knife was like that. That was just the blade. 151 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,560 And I'm looking at them, and I'm, like... 152 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,760 "All right. We all got knives. You just calm down." 153 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,440 And I turned back around, and I walked out. 154 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,880 And I took a deep breath 'cause I was outside. I was like... 155 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,240 "All right, you're outside." 156 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,480 "You're cool." 157 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,200 This guy, John Pierre, Jr., comes out of the shadows, 158 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,120 comes walking right up to me like he's going to fight me. 159 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,160 He said, "Hey, you know what?" 160 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,320 He said, "You know, Blackfeet and Salish Kootenai are archenemies." 161 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,040 I said, "Look, man, I ain't even about that. I'm about Native pride." 162 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,640 "I ain't about all that." 163 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,880 He just kind of looked at me. 164 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,760 And I started walking towards my car. 165 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,240 And then all these people come walking out... 166 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,120 ...coming surrounding me. 167 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,320 John Pierre, Jr. came at me. 168 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,560 That's when I struck out 169 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,400 and stabbed this guy. 170 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,760 It was self-defense from a hate crime. 171 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,840 I stabbed this guy one single time. That was it. 172 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,360 I knew that those guys had knives. 173 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,080 I felt that they were gonna come jump me. 174 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,640 Why were these guys targeting me? 175 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Because I was Blackfeet. 176 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,880 That's a hate crime. 177 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,120 That's what it comes down to. 178 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,560 I was working patrol. 179 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,080 {\an8}Another officer and myself were, uh, dispatched 180 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,920 {\an8}to a loud party disturbance. 181 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Just go ask them to quiet it down. 182 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,040 We got two to three blocks away from that address, 183 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,160 and, uh, we got told that there had been a stabbing. 184 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,280 This is the place. 185 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:44,400 And there was young men and young women running from the scene down the driveway, 186 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,240 running around our vehicles. 187 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,720 As I got closer, 188 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,160 I could see a group of people around a male 189 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,400 that was sitting on the ground here. 190 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,400 That was John Pierre. 191 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,400 I've known him for a long time. I've known the family a long time. 192 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,680 And when I... ...uh, went up and talked to John, 193 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,600 he... he did not respond back to me. 194 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,640 I... I would say that he was already in a state of shock. 195 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:24,200 The small amount of blood that, uh, that was coming out of his shirt 196 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,720 made me believe that he had a substantial bleed internally. 197 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,320 I... I talked to him until we finally... He... He went unconscious. 198 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,040 And we laid him back, checked for pulse, 199 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,880 and then we started CPR. 200 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:12,240 You know, we deal with a lot of bad things, and 201 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,960 it always, uh, is hard when 202 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,120 somebody from the community, uh, dies senseless like this. So... 203 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,080 We have the motel surrounded. 204 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,680 We knock on the door, and the person that comes to the door is Mr. Whitford. 205 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,520 The room is quite in disarray. 206 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,600 Garbage on the floor. Blankets on the floor. 207 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:11,560 He initially denies even being at the party. 208 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Then he admitted that he had been there, 209 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,960 but denied any, uh, part of an altercation. 210 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:27,520 When we have somebody that we're talking to and they change their story, 211 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,040 what are you trying to cover up? 212 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,840 Why would you do that? An average person has nothing to hide. 213 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,120 But that's just how some people operate when they try to get out of trouble. 214 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:54,520 The cops came to my room, and I tried to bullshit them. 215 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,120 I'll be the first one to admit I was scared as hell to... to even say anything. 216 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,240 That's part of my raising. 217 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,920 Don't talk to the cops. Don't say nothing. 218 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,720 You know? We have a very deep distrust for the cops. 219 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,720 My... My uncle David was shot and killed by the Tacoma Police Department. 220 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,280 We don't... We don't trust the cops for nothing. 221 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,920 Just because somebody in some other place 222 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,760 had been treated poorly by law enforcement, 223 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,760 um, doesn't justify not trusting us that we're going to do our job here. 224 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,120 So, I think that was his motivation, 225 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:39,000 is to lie to try to get out of, uh, 226 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,720 the consequences for his actions that night. 227 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,600 To me, he's not showing any remorse for it. 228 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,520 Um, he's not happy that he was caught, 229 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,320 and he did not want to be held accountable, uh, for what he'd done. 230 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,880 The state, their version of the events 231 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,520 was to paint Whitford as the only aggressor of the... of the evening. 232 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,720 But the concept just really didn't add up. 233 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Whether it was justified or not, 234 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,160 in any argument or fight, there has to be 235 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,560 {\an8}two people to engage. 236 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,120 {\an8}There had to have been some interaction. 237 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,000 So, I personally found Mak's version of the events to be credible. 238 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,600 My name is Jennifer Streano. I was Mr. Whitford's trial attorney. 239 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,720 You are parole eligible at a quarter of your time. 240 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,840 He received a 60-year sentence, 241 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,080 which means he should be parole eligible in 15 years. 242 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,840 And the judge put a 25-year parole restriction, 243 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,320 which would equate to him receiving a sentence of 100 years. 244 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:29,360 It is a brutal outcome. 245 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:37,600 Everything that he worked his adult life to try to regain is now gone. 246 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,400 You know, all of that because of a two-to-three-second decision. 247 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,240 You know, that's heartbreaking. 248 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,280 Legally, Mak committed a homicide. 249 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,120 There's no question about that. 250 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,880 I'm sure he regrets that decision. 251 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,520 A life was lost, and that's the ultimate tragedy. 252 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,160 But it is legally allowed to commit a homicide 253 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,840 if you're afraid for your own life. 254 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,640 And so that's really where the question comes down to. 255 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Did Mak make that split-second decision because he was afraid for his own life, 256 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:40,880 or because he was angry or defensive, 257 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,200 or just, um, overreacted? 258 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,200 It's completely understandable that Mak would react 259 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,320 impulsively in those circumstances. 260 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,400 He had... had a pretty rough upbringing. 261 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,280 And his trauma definitely played into how he responded that night. 262 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,480 Sometimes violence is so shocking 263 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,520 that I think it just kind of overshadows all the good things. 264 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,000 After Mak got out of prison in Washington, 265 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,960 he honestly was on this path where he was amazing. 266 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:56,760 {\an8}He was doing everything he could to make his life stable 267 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,920 {\an8}and really push towards advocacy for the Natives. 268 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,800 And that was really important to him. That was a huge thing. 269 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,880 It is a tragedy to me that it didn't work out. 270 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,200 But I think that Mak reacted 271 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,520 in the only way he knew how at that moment. 272 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,640 My name is Amie, and I am Makueeyapee's sister. 273 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,320 Mak's dad was a Blackfeet National, and my dad is Cherokee. 274 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,520 But we share a mother. 275 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,000 She came from a really bad background, a really hard background. 276 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,240 She had kids very young, at 12 years old. 277 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,240 She was 16 when she had me. 278 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,440 At that time, the government could come in and take children, 279 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,160 and it was perfectly legal. 280 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,640 Our adoption mentally broke our mother 281 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,880 in ways that she was never able to get back from. 282 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,040 It left something, just a hole there that she couldn't fill. 283 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,080 Nothing was ever stable or normal. 284 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,000 She inevitably made really horrible choices when it came to men. 285 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,000 A lot of alcohol, drugs, 286 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,400 a lot of physical and verbal abuse. 287 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:52,480 Mak grew up with that. 288 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,080 My first incident with violence, I was three. 289 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,920 These two children that lived across the street from us, 290 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,160 we always used to play in the mud puddles and stuff. 291 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,480 It's... It's hard. 292 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,840 It's hard to talk about. 293 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,560 That ended up coming to a close, uh, with our next-door neighbor, 294 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440 who I guess had been having an affair with my mother, 295 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,880 and I didn't know it. Um... 296 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,760 We went over there. She took me and my sister, 297 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,680 and there was an argument in the house. 298 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,320 He ended up shooting his, uh, wife five times in the chest 299 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720 with a .357 Magnum. And... 300 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600 This lady died in my mom's arms. 301 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,080 I don't remember where that guy went, but when the cops caught up with him, 302 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,080 he'd ended up shooting his kids once in the stomach, killing both of them, 303 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,480 and himself in the head. 304 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Shot himself in the head. 305 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,280 And, uh... 306 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,800 all I could do was grab my sister and cover her up and hold her. And... 307 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,160 I could tell you other violence and stuff that happened. 308 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,240 But that was how my life started. 309 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Just... That's a real powerful memory. 310 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,160 I feel for the child that Mak was, because going through that was, 311 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,040 I'm sure, absolutely hideous. 312 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,880 He's, from his youngest age, dealt with the reality 313 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,720 that these men can kill you. 314 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,600 You know, that was a life lesson that I don't think he ever lost. 315 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,840 I think that it definitely speaks 316 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,600 why he would react so violently 317 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,640 to being in a situation where he felt that he was in trouble. 318 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,760 Somebody tries to hurt you, 319 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,520 and you go straight back to childhood and protecting yourself. 320 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,520 The Pierre family have every right to be angry at Mak. 321 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,480 John Pierre never should've died. 322 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,880 But I don't think Mak meant to kill him. 323 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,840 I think he just wanted to get away before he got hurt. 324 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320 Way in there like that. 325 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440 - How are we? Yep. Throw him in there. - There he is! 326 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,600 Good job. Then bury him. You ready? Go. Go. 327 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,480 - Very classy, buddy. Yeah. 328 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,720 I got up to that party about three o'clock in the morning. 329 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Everybody's partying outside. 330 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Everybody's laughing. 331 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,520 As I'm going into the house, I ran into Whitford. 332 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,800 Whitford was a little bit tense. 333 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 The Blackfoot Reservation and this reservation 334 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,960 {\an8}are... two completely different... uh... 335 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,520 pieces of earth, man. 336 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,920 Is there still that mistrust between our two tribes? 337 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,840 Yeah. 338 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,520 We started talking, and he says, "Hey, do you know all these people here?" 339 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,240 And I said, yeah. I said, "Yep. I know 'em all." 340 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,640 Like, out of nowhere, he just stops in the middle of our conversation, 341 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,640 and he decides to, you know, share with me, you know, that, 342 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,520 "I'm feeling threatened." 343 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,200 It was, like... 344 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,680 ... some switch. 345 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,000 He says, well... He... 346 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,920 He takes a knife out of his pocket, a paring knife, 347 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,360 and it's got white tape or duct tape around the... around the handle. 348 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,720 And he says, "This is for anybody who wants to, uh, 349 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400 you know, try to talk shit or start some shit." 350 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,840 And I was, like, "Put that away!" 351 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,760 I was, like, "All these people here are my family and friends." 352 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,800 I was, like, "Everybody's cool here." 353 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,000 God knows what could be going through his head, you know. 354 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080 The guy looks like he's seen some shit. 355 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880 We start having a conversation. 356 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,560 And, uh, Whitford or Adrian said, " Piikani." 357 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,040 I remember it just, like, hitting John in the face like a punch. 358 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Piikani is brother in Blackfeet. 359 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,320 And John says, uh, 360 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,880 "So, you're Blackfeet?" 361 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,320 And he says, "Yeah." And John says, "I'm Kootenai." 362 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,120 And, uh, Kootenai and Blackfeet have been sworn enemies for hundreds of years. 363 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,800 I think what John was doing was kind of trying to establish that dominance. 364 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,120 "This is my reservation, you know, and if, uh... 365 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,760 if you got problems or whatever, we can handle it." 366 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,360 And fights happen, you know. People get beat up sometimes. 367 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,360 So, my first thought of it... of it is, "Don't let it go any farther than this." 368 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520 I remember trying to defuse the situation. 369 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,640 "No, that was hundreds of years ago, man. Times... Times have changed." 370 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,880 I'm in there for maybe a minute and a half, 371 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,920 two minutes. 372 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,080 My friend runs in the house and says, "They stabbed John." 373 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,160 "They stabbed John! Get out here right now!" 374 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,600 So, I take off running outside. 375 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,600 John was laying down on the ground. 376 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,680 He wasn't responding to... anything. 377 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520 He's still breathing. And, uh... 378 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600 There was nothing we could do about it. 379 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,640 John believed in throwing hands. 380 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Maybe a little fight, you know, that's probably what he wanted or whatever. 381 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,480 But he did not deserve to die. 382 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,240 John was a family man. 383 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,800 Took care of his two sons. 384 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,680 They were the center of his universe. 385 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,880 He should still be here. And he should be with his family and his loved ones. 386 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,200 And he can't. 387 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960 I think Whitford was paranoid. 388 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:26,680 I met him for 15 minutes, and he took away a lot of people's friend, 389 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200 brother, father, and uncle. 390 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,400 So, I couldn't care less about Whitford. 391 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,280 I believe that Mr. Whitford believes in his own mind 392 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200 that he does nothing wrong, 393 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640 and everybody else is out to get him or hurt him. 394 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,520 And he's had that hardwired into him since he was young. 395 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,440 {\an8}My name is John Todd. I'm one of the jail commanders 396 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,080 {\an8}for the Lake County Sheriff's Office in Polson, Montana. 397 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,720 {\an8}I was one of the senior guys in the jail at the time Mr. Whitford was here. 398 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080 {\an8}Mr. Whitford could be violent, 399 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,520 {\an8}and often was. 400 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,040 If he didn't get his way, then he immediately went to the violence. 401 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,640 We never knew from one minute to the other, 402 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,840 are we gonna be fighting with this guy, rolling around on the floor, 403 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,520 or is he gonna cooperate with us? 404 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,120 He was, I'd have to say, kind of a bully. 405 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,080 {\an8}He would poke at the smaller, weaker guys 406 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,960 {\an8}and just poke and poke and poke until they exploded. 407 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,200 And then he would hurt them, or attempt to hurt them. 408 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,280 And then it was never his fault. 409 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,080 He was, "They did it. They started it. It was their fault." 410 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,640 Even though he was the one doing the poking and the... and the prodding. 411 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,240 He'd always say, "Well, I'm Blackfeet." 412 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,240 "And this is the Salish and Kootenai reservation that we're on." 413 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,680 And he was instantly on the, uh, defensive with whoever it was. 414 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,680 He just chose to believe that he was being oppressed and... and picked on, 415 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,240 and so his... his reaction was to fight. 416 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,720 That was just Mr. Whitford. 417 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:39,040 Whitford's position was that he was the victim of a hate crime. 418 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,600 But there wasn't anything much to support his version of the events. 419 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,000 All of the other witnesses, all of the other evidence and so forth 420 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,080 seemed to be contrary to what his self-defense claim was. 421 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,400 {\an8}The Blackfeet and the Salish were historically at war. 422 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,800 {\an8}But that was 170 years ago. 423 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,800 While there may still be sometimes some, uh, competition or tension, 424 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,920 in the meantime, they've intermarried and interacted. 425 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,600 And a lot of Blackfeet come over here 426 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,440 and attend the college here or get jobs here. 427 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,160 {\an8}So, Whitford's position that he was surrounded by Salish, 428 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,120 and therefore it was a hate crime and he had to defend himself, 429 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880 wasn't a very persuasive argument. 430 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,760 There was no reason for any of this. 431 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,440 I sentenced Whitford to 60 years in prison 432 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:53,240 with a minimum of 25 years before he would be considered or eligible for parole. 433 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,360 I thought that that was a fair sentence. 434 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,240 The consequences to John Pierre were pretty darn serious too. 435 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,840 I should've never even got a sentence. 436 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,080 I should have been... I should have walked out of that courtroom. 437 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,800 You know, this was self-defense. 438 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,440 They didn't like the fact that I had mentioned anything about being Blackfeet. 439 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,240 It's a hate crime because of my nationality. 440 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,720 Their nationality as a Kootenai nation 441 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,280 and my nationality as a Blackfeet tribal. 442 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,720 {\an8}That's what it comes down to. 443 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,280 Well, it's troubling to hear him, uh, speak like that, 444 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,280 because in his mind, he did nothing wrong. 445 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,920 Most people, even honest people, 446 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,680 recreate an event in their mind, often subconsciously, 447 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,000 so that it's consistent with their psychological needs. 448 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,320 I suspect that some of that was in play. 449 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,160 Mr. Whitford and the fellow he was riding with, 450 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,000 they'd had something like 30 beers before they ever got to this party. 451 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,760 Whether he could remember accurately his emotions or motives or why he did things, 452 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080 I find that... questionable. 453 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,600 From what I understand about Mr. Whitford's behavior 454 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,760 in prison since then, he hasn't changed. 455 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,800 For his sake, I hope he will at some point. 456 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,240 Because otherwise he'll probably spend the rest of his life in jail. 457 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,920 If I were to ask him one thing, it would be, 458 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,400 "After all this, have you learned nothing?" 459 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,640 "Have you learned no lesson from this tragedy?" 460 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,840 He killed another human being, and that doesn't seem to bother him. 461 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,360 He's only feeling sorry for himself.