1 00:00:08,301 --> 00:00:12,222 AMANPOUR: I last visited Shanghai in 1978, 2 00:00:12,222 --> 00:00:14,265 when China was truly Communist 3 00:00:14,265 --> 00:00:17,310 and love was reserved for the revolution. 4 00:00:17,310 --> 00:00:20,605 Sex was strictly controlled. 5 00:00:20,605 --> 00:00:23,608 Conformity was the opiate of the masses. 6 00:00:24,484 --> 00:00:27,905 [ Dynamic chime music plays ] 7 00:00:35,829 --> 00:00:38,122 [ Flourishing music plays ] 8 00:00:38,122 --> 00:00:40,291 Today, it's another universe. 9 00:00:43,127 --> 00:00:46,423 Communism meets capitalism. 10 00:00:47,799 --> 00:00:50,969 Attitudes to love and sex are shifting. 11 00:00:52,721 --> 00:00:54,723 But as with everything here... 12 00:00:58,309 --> 00:01:00,562 ...it's complicated. 13 00:01:44,564 --> 00:01:47,149 MAN: In China, getting married 14 00:01:47,149 --> 00:01:51,071 is the most important event in a person's life. 15 00:01:52,322 --> 00:01:55,492 [ Dynamic electronic music plays ] 16 00:01:57,201 --> 00:01:58,328 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 17 00:01:59,245 --> 00:02:01,539 [ People speaking native language ] 18 00:02:10,132 --> 00:02:11,967 WOMAN: In Chinese tradition 19 00:02:11,967 --> 00:02:15,887 you take wedding photos before the wedding day. 20 00:02:15,887 --> 00:02:18,765 [ Camera shutter clicking ] 21 00:02:24,187 --> 00:02:25,772 AMANPOUR: In Shanghai, 22 00:02:25,772 --> 00:02:29,651 lavish photo studios provide costume designers, 23 00:02:29,651 --> 00:02:33,864 makeup artists, photographers, and fairy-tale sets 24 00:02:33,864 --> 00:02:38,743 to help turn every couple's fantasy into reality. 25 00:02:38,743 --> 00:02:41,621 We have six sets of costumes today. 26 00:02:41,955 --> 00:02:46,835 We're going to share these photos with family and friends 27 00:02:46,835 --> 00:02:48,545 on our wedding day. 28 00:02:48,545 --> 00:02:51,673 They will consider our wedding and our marriage 29 00:02:51,673 --> 00:02:53,215 as heavenly beautiful. 30 00:02:53,925 --> 00:02:56,178 AMANPOUR: For some couples, this photo shoot 31 00:02:56,178 --> 00:02:59,139 will be the biggest luxury of their lives. 32 00:03:00,222 --> 00:03:04,686 Both of us are from rural areas of China. 33 00:03:04,686 --> 00:03:07,189 We won't be holding a wedding celebration in a hotel. 34 00:03:07,189 --> 00:03:08,648 For us migrant workers, 35 00:03:08,648 --> 00:03:11,026 we need long-term savings in order to do that. 36 00:03:11,026 --> 00:03:14,362 That's why we decided to take professional wedding photos 37 00:03:14,362 --> 00:03:15,488 for remembrance. 38 00:03:16,823 --> 00:03:19,576 AMANPOUR: For years, marriage and relationships here 39 00:03:19,576 --> 00:03:23,205 have been controlled by three sacred pillars -- 40 00:03:23,205 --> 00:03:28,250 family, tradition, and state. 41 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:30,670 I'm curious to find out to what extent 42 00:03:30,670 --> 00:03:34,632 people are taking back control of their relationships, 43 00:03:34,632 --> 00:03:36,384 their love, 44 00:03:36,384 --> 00:03:38,344 their desire, 45 00:03:38,344 --> 00:03:41,389 and their sexuality. 46 00:03:41,389 --> 00:03:44,851 [ Dynamic chime music play ] 47 00:04:09,709 --> 00:04:12,503 [ Electronic music plays ] 48 00:04:20,303 --> 00:04:27,018 DONG: In our country, on the Internet, you cannot show 49 00:04:27,018 --> 00:04:34,151 any exposed body part like nipples or genitals. 50 00:04:36,402 --> 00:04:42,617 However, I think there is a demand for this kind of art. 51 00:04:51,668 --> 00:04:54,796 [ Exotic ambient music plays ] 52 00:04:56,047 --> 00:04:58,508 AMANPOUR: Wanimal is an artist who dares to dance 53 00:04:58,508 --> 00:05:02,012 on the edge of self-expression and censorship, 54 00:05:02,012 --> 00:05:05,348 undaunted by China's conservative values. 55 00:05:05,348 --> 00:05:07,934 [ Soft piano music plays ] 56 00:05:07,934 --> 00:05:12,480 DONG: My father, when he was young, was a painter. 57 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,984 He would paint naked women. 58 00:05:16,901 --> 00:05:19,988 I grew up in this type of environment from a young age. 59 00:05:19,988 --> 00:05:22,199 -So this is normal for you? -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 60 00:05:22,782 --> 00:05:24,909 AMANPOUR: The models in Wanimal's photographs 61 00:05:24,909 --> 00:05:26,703 are always nude, 62 00:05:26,703 --> 00:05:29,956 and his provocative images explore varying forms 63 00:05:29,956 --> 00:05:34,044 of sexual identity and intimacy. 64 00:05:35,837 --> 00:05:37,881 This bit looks kind of sweet. 65 00:05:37,881 --> 00:05:40,884 So you don't mind doing this for the world to see? 66 00:05:40,884 --> 00:05:47,724 I feel very shy, but happy doing this together with him. 67 00:05:47,765 --> 00:05:50,268 Shy but happy to be with him. 68 00:05:51,435 --> 00:05:54,564 After the shoot, I sat down to chat with Wanimal 69 00:05:54,564 --> 00:06:00,362 and two of his muses -- wife Xiang and model Blair. 70 00:06:01,154 --> 00:06:05,283 I'd asked your two models whether they were in love, 71 00:06:05,283 --> 00:06:07,493 and they said yes, that they're partners. 72 00:06:07,493 --> 00:06:09,704 Why is it important for you, intimacy? 73 00:06:09,704 --> 00:06:13,250 Because two people together should be intimate. 74 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:17,045 If there's a distance, it just doesn't look good. 75 00:06:17,712 --> 00:06:25,387 It's not like I shoot with the intention of making pornography. 76 00:06:26,637 --> 00:06:30,767 I just like the look of people merging together as one. 77 00:06:34,354 --> 00:06:37,565 So what do you think about posing nude for your husband 78 00:06:37,565 --> 00:06:39,276 and for the world? 79 00:06:39,276 --> 00:06:41,736 I think that being naked is the most beautiful, 80 00:06:41,736 --> 00:06:43,321 most natural state of the body. 81 00:06:43,321 --> 00:06:45,573 And furthermore, this photography 82 00:06:45,573 --> 00:06:48,118 is incredibly beautiful and artistic. 83 00:06:48,118 --> 00:06:50,245 Let me ask you, Blair. Are any of these you? 84 00:06:50,245 --> 00:06:51,662 One of these is you, no? 85 00:06:51,662 --> 00:06:53,123 -BLAIR: Yeah, this is me. -AMANPOUR: This is you. 86 00:06:53,123 --> 00:06:55,166 You love doing this kind of modeling? 87 00:06:55,166 --> 00:06:57,877 Yeah, because I think female body's definitely art. 88 00:06:57,877 --> 00:06:59,587 What about your own parents? Did they -- 89 00:06:59,587 --> 00:07:01,881 -They don't know. -They haven't seen this book? 90 00:07:01,881 --> 00:07:03,007 No, never. 91 00:07:03,716 --> 00:07:05,927 -And I'm never gonna tell them. -[ Laughs ] 92 00:07:05,927 --> 00:07:07,429 Why? 93 00:07:07,429 --> 00:07:09,639 Well, because China have 94 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:12,183 a really, like, conservative, like, history, right? 95 00:07:12,183 --> 00:07:16,687 And all the womens are just very mentally restricted. 96 00:07:16,687 --> 00:07:22,402 My parents, they're, like, just really, really conservative. 97 00:07:22,402 --> 00:07:23,987 And they think, like, your body's 98 00:07:23,987 --> 00:07:26,156 not for you to show other people, 99 00:07:26,156 --> 00:07:28,992 and you cannot have sex before marriage, 100 00:07:28,992 --> 00:07:32,912 and I don't think I will ever change their mind. 101 00:07:32,912 --> 00:07:35,873 AMANPOUR: What are you looking for in a partner? 102 00:07:35,873 --> 00:07:37,125 What do you want from a guy? 103 00:07:37,125 --> 00:07:39,085 I mean, first, he has to be handsome, 104 00:07:39,085 --> 00:07:41,379 or you just cannot have sex with him, you know? 105 00:07:41,379 --> 00:07:44,341 And, uh, I think size really matter, too. 106 00:07:44,341 --> 00:07:46,759 -Size really matters? -Yeah. [ Laughs ] 107 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:48,178 You mean tall? 108 00:07:48,178 --> 00:07:50,221 -No, I mean the... -Penis. 109 00:07:50,221 --> 00:07:52,182 -[ Laughs ] -Yeah. 110 00:07:52,182 --> 00:07:54,934 I mean, what you were thinking it is, yeah. [ Laughs ] 111 00:07:54,934 --> 00:07:56,311 AMANPOUR: All right. 112 00:07:56,311 --> 00:07:57,770 I can see you two, 113 00:07:57,770 --> 00:08:00,857 very intimate, and you work together. 114 00:08:00,857 --> 00:08:03,234 Does this work help your sex life? 115 00:08:03,234 --> 00:08:05,695 In reality, we're working. 116 00:08:05,695 --> 00:08:08,781 And it's a really arduous work process. 117 00:08:08,781 --> 00:08:11,409 If we want it, then we'll have sex. 118 00:08:11,409 --> 00:08:13,036 If not, then we won't. 119 00:08:13,036 --> 00:08:18,458 I think in our sex life I'm very much the initiator. 120 00:08:18,458 --> 00:08:19,876 She initiates sex more than I do. 121 00:08:19,876 --> 00:08:21,961 -Ah. Interesting. -Yeah, in the sexual -- 122 00:08:21,961 --> 00:08:24,172 So you take a lot of initiative? 123 00:08:24,172 --> 00:08:25,548 Yes. 124 00:08:26,090 --> 00:08:27,884 [ Laughter ] 125 00:08:27,884 --> 00:08:30,011 [ Both speaking native language ] 126 00:08:30,011 --> 00:08:30,803 It's great. 127 00:08:30,803 --> 00:08:32,638 [laughter] 128 00:08:33,806 --> 00:08:35,517 Sex is important. 129 00:08:35,517 --> 00:08:38,853 I think a married couple who doesn't have sex 130 00:08:38,853 --> 00:08:42,524 cannot be considered a normal couple. 131 00:08:42,524 --> 00:08:44,692 I don't agree with him. 132 00:08:47,529 --> 00:08:49,531 Video games are enough, right? 133 00:08:50,490 --> 00:08:54,744 A physical relationship is very important to me. 134 00:08:54,744 --> 00:08:58,789 Humans can't live without a physical relationship, right? 135 00:08:58,789 --> 00:09:02,126 Human's nature at birth is good... 136 00:09:02,126 --> 00:09:03,836 Stop talking. 137 00:09:04,837 --> 00:09:06,548 Can I skip this question? 138 00:09:06,548 --> 00:09:09,008 [ Laughs ] 139 00:09:09,008 --> 00:09:12,512 [ Soft, revitalizing music plays ] 140 00:09:23,689 --> 00:09:25,275 [ Singing in native language ] 141 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:27,777 -XING: Perfect day. -AMANPOUR: Perfect day. 142 00:09:27,777 --> 00:09:29,320 It's a great, beautiful park. 143 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,614 Lots of people out doing their own thing. 144 00:09:32,698 --> 00:09:34,534 A whole village is following us, Jin. 145 00:09:34,534 --> 00:09:36,369 -And that's because of you. -[ Laughs ] 146 00:09:36,369 --> 00:09:38,996 You are an incredibly popular person. 147 00:09:38,996 --> 00:09:41,374 How many people watch your show every week? 148 00:09:41,374 --> 00:09:44,835 Every Wednesday night, I think all over the world 149 00:09:44,835 --> 00:09:46,463 we have 150 million Chinese people. 150 00:09:46,463 --> 00:09:48,381 -150 million? -Million, yes. 151 00:09:48,381 --> 00:09:51,509 [ Upbeat music plays ] 152 00:09:53,886 --> 00:09:57,181 AMANPOUR: Already renowned as a dancer and choreographer, 153 00:09:57,181 --> 00:10:02,019 Jin Xing shot to superstardom as a TV personality. 154 00:10:02,019 --> 00:10:05,398 One of the many immensely popular programs she hosts 155 00:10:05,398 --> 00:10:08,401 is a dating show with a twist, 156 00:10:08,401 --> 00:10:10,945 where it's the parents who get to choose dates 157 00:10:10,945 --> 00:10:12,363 for their children. 158 00:10:14,616 --> 00:10:18,411 How important is it in Chinese culture and tradition 159 00:10:18,411 --> 00:10:20,704 -for the parents... -Mm. 160 00:10:20,704 --> 00:10:22,957 ...to actually see their children married, 161 00:10:22,957 --> 00:10:25,209 to make their children have a happy match? 162 00:10:25,209 --> 00:10:27,920 For Chinese people, the idea of a happy family 163 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,257 is four generations under one roof. 164 00:10:31,633 --> 00:10:35,553 The parents in China also retire earlier. 165 00:10:35,970 --> 00:10:37,888 After they're retired 166 00:10:37,888 --> 00:10:41,518 they want to be grandparents as soon as possible. 167 00:10:42,977 --> 00:10:44,979 AMANPOUR: According to Jin Xing, 168 00:10:44,979 --> 00:10:48,191 marriage in China is still a family affair, 169 00:10:48,191 --> 00:10:50,860 and a weekly gathering in this park shows 170 00:10:50,860 --> 00:10:52,736 just what lengths parents will go to 171 00:10:52,736 --> 00:10:55,573 to find a good match for their child. 172 00:10:56,449 --> 00:10:58,993 -Oh, look, here we are. -XING: Look. Look at this. 173 00:10:58,993 --> 00:11:00,744 -AMANPOUR: Whoa, what is this? -XING: Look. Do you see this? 174 00:11:00,744 --> 00:11:01,996 Do you see they put the umbrellas here? 175 00:11:01,996 --> 00:11:03,456 -Yeah. -This one say that girl... 176 00:11:03,456 --> 00:11:05,291 -Okay, what does this one say? -A girl. 177 00:11:05,291 --> 00:11:07,585 -'87. Born in 1987. -Right? 178 00:11:07,585 --> 00:11:09,420 Height -- one meter, 67. 179 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:11,464 And they're working for the government company. 180 00:11:11,464 --> 00:11:13,675 Every month, income 10,000. 181 00:11:13,675 --> 00:11:16,010 AMANPOUR: This is a marriage market. 182 00:11:16,594 --> 00:11:19,096 The idea is a Shanghai phenomenon 183 00:11:19,096 --> 00:11:21,516 that's now spread across China, 184 00:11:21,516 --> 00:11:23,518 where parents gather in the park 185 00:11:23,518 --> 00:11:26,521 to advertise not goods, but their children. 186 00:11:27,522 --> 00:11:30,983 So, all these elderly, well, you know, middle-aged people... 187 00:11:30,983 --> 00:11:32,569 -XING: Yeah. -...they are here 188 00:11:32,569 --> 00:11:35,279 trying to snare a match for their child? 189 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:36,989 For their children. Yes, yes, exactly. 190 00:11:36,989 --> 00:11:39,409 AMANPOUR: Flyers are pinned to umbrellas, 191 00:11:39,409 --> 00:11:42,286 detailing each child's best selling points -- 192 00:11:42,286 --> 00:11:45,915 job, income, education. 193 00:11:45,915 --> 00:11:48,167 XING: Look at this one. 194 00:11:48,167 --> 00:11:51,003 "Ms. Liu, born in 1984." 195 00:11:51,003 --> 00:11:52,088 -Yeah. -"Not married. 196 00:11:52,088 --> 00:11:53,715 1 meter, 60, height. 197 00:11:53,715 --> 00:11:55,341 And after graduation, working for the foreign company." 198 00:11:55,341 --> 00:11:57,427 -Okay. -And she has her own apartment. 199 00:11:57,427 --> 00:11:59,387 [ Gasps ] That's major, to have her own apartment. 200 00:11:59,387 --> 00:12:00,762 Exactly, a girl. 201 00:12:00,762 --> 00:12:03,474 And her request is, "Must be Shanghainese." 202 00:12:03,474 --> 00:12:06,143 -Right. -XING: "And must have apartment 203 00:12:06,143 --> 00:12:07,604 and the same kind of education 204 00:12:07,604 --> 00:12:10,273 and must be only five years above her." 205 00:12:10,273 --> 00:12:11,941 Whoa, I mean, that's pretty... 206 00:12:11,941 --> 00:12:13,568 -Precise. [ Laughs ] -...pretty precise. 207 00:12:13,568 --> 00:12:15,777 So, she wants an educated Shanghainese 208 00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:17,447 -who's five years older... -Older. 209 00:12:17,447 --> 00:12:20,700 ...and specifically 10 centimeters higher than her. 210 00:12:22,118 --> 00:12:26,247 Do the young people know that their parents are doing this? 211 00:12:26,247 --> 00:12:28,082 80%, they have no idea. 212 00:12:28,082 --> 00:12:29,959 Most of the young kids, they feel ashamed. 213 00:12:29,959 --> 00:12:31,377 -Do they? -They say, 214 00:12:31,377 --> 00:12:33,170 "I need to find my own love by myself." 215 00:12:33,170 --> 00:12:34,880 No matter. Doesn't stop the parents. 216 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,467 The marriage is not like two young people's issue. 217 00:12:37,467 --> 00:12:39,969 -It's a family issue. -Wow, it is incredible, really. 218 00:12:39,969 --> 00:12:41,304 And also looking for the reward. 219 00:12:41,304 --> 00:12:42,804 Yeah. What reward? 220 00:12:42,804 --> 00:12:45,015 After I'm getting old, you have to look after me. 221 00:12:45,015 --> 00:12:46,726 Ah. 222 00:12:46,726 --> 00:12:48,645 -That's what it's all about. -Nothing for free. [ Laughs ] 223 00:12:48,645 --> 00:12:50,563 Nothing for -- No -- No free lunch. 224 00:12:50,563 --> 00:12:51,897 -Exactly. -No free marriage. 225 00:12:51,897 --> 00:12:52,940 Exactly, exactly. 226 00:12:53,316 --> 00:12:56,694 ♪ Ooh ♪ 227 00:12:56,736 --> 00:13:01,157 ♪ Ooh ♪ 228 00:13:01,157 --> 00:13:03,660 KING: In traditional Chinese culture 229 00:13:03,660 --> 00:13:07,246 all parents have intense expectations for their children. 230 00:13:08,581 --> 00:13:11,083 It's a big pressure that's put on us. 231 00:13:12,752 --> 00:13:15,463 My name is Aaron King. 232 00:13:15,463 --> 00:13:18,382 I am conductor and composer 233 00:13:18,382 --> 00:13:20,259 from the Rainbow Chamber Singers. 234 00:13:21,093 --> 00:13:26,848 ♪ Ah ♪ 235 00:13:26,890 --> 00:13:32,938 ♪ Ah ♪ 236 00:13:32,938 --> 00:13:35,316 [ Speaking native language ] 237 00:13:35,316 --> 00:13:36,776 AMANPOUR: The choir became famous 238 00:13:36,776 --> 00:13:38,402 for its original compositions, 239 00:13:38,402 --> 00:13:42,615 which blend traditional music with humorous lyrics. 240 00:13:42,615 --> 00:13:44,575 One of their biggest hits 241 00:13:44,575 --> 00:13:47,203 highlights the parental pressure that young people face 242 00:13:47,203 --> 00:13:49,163 when it comes to their love lives. 243 00:13:49,163 --> 00:13:51,248 [ Speaks native language ] 244 00:13:51,248 --> 00:13:54,876 ♪ Any dates lately? ♪ 245 00:13:54,876 --> 00:13:56,170 ♪ Nope ♪ 246 00:13:56,170 --> 00:13:59,923 ♪ Anyone you like at all? ♪ 247 00:13:59,923 --> 00:14:02,009 ♪ Way out of my league ♪ 248 00:14:02,009 --> 00:14:07,264 KING: Filial obedience is the most important character trait. 249 00:14:07,264 --> 00:14:08,766 We have to work together with our parents. 250 00:14:08,766 --> 00:14:10,768 We have to listen to their advice. 251 00:14:11,101 --> 00:14:13,688 ♪ Great! Why don't you go on this date ♪ 252 00:14:13,688 --> 00:14:15,773 ♪ I set up for you tomorrow? ♪ 253 00:14:15,773 --> 00:14:19,819 ♪ And it's about time you lose a few pounds too! ♪ 254 00:14:19,819 --> 00:14:21,987 ♪ Just skip this meal! ♪ 255 00:14:21,987 --> 00:14:26,325 This song illustrates that issue. 256 00:14:26,659 --> 00:14:33,207 ♪ It's all for your own good! ♪ 257 00:14:33,249 --> 00:14:37,002 ♪ It's all for your own good! ♪ 258 00:14:37,002 --> 00:14:46,846 ♪ You have really let your parents down! ♪ 259 00:14:47,137 --> 00:14:49,682 ♪ It's all for your own good! ♪ 260 00:14:50,725 --> 00:14:54,604 When we sing, everyone really resonates with it. 261 00:14:54,604 --> 00:14:57,398 The boys will get really emotional 262 00:14:57,398 --> 00:15:00,984 and the girls all feel like the song is about them. 263 00:15:00,984 --> 00:15:02,403 ♪ The dreams of the entire family ♪ 264 00:15:02,403 --> 00:15:04,280 ♪ Weighing down on my shoulders ♪ 265 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,865 ♪ Become a CEO a month after graduation ♪ 266 00:15:05,865 --> 00:15:09,660 ♪ Blind date, get married, and make babies ♪ 267 00:15:09,660 --> 00:15:11,495 ♪ Twins? Even better! ♪ 268 00:15:11,495 --> 00:15:13,915 What young people desire the most 269 00:15:13,915 --> 00:15:17,627 is for adults in their lives to understand their intentions. 270 00:15:22,339 --> 00:15:25,134 [ Cheers and applause ] 271 00:15:26,928 --> 00:15:29,513 AMANPOUR: Shanghainese women have a reputation 272 00:15:29,513 --> 00:15:33,058 for being ambitious, successful, and uncompromising. 273 00:15:35,394 --> 00:15:37,772 WOMAN: The reason I came to Shanghai 274 00:15:37,772 --> 00:15:40,023 it's all about my career. 275 00:15:41,651 --> 00:15:46,447 To find the right long-term relationship partner for me 276 00:15:46,447 --> 00:15:50,493 is very similar to find the right CEO 277 00:15:50,493 --> 00:15:52,369 or manager in the firm. 278 00:15:53,370 --> 00:15:55,581 Love is actually a science. 279 00:15:56,206 --> 00:15:59,836 You have to learn the theory, then you have to practice. 280 00:16:01,003 --> 00:16:05,132 For my mom, my dad is her first love. 281 00:16:06,091 --> 00:16:08,344 This story for me is insane. [ Laughs ] 282 00:16:08,344 --> 00:16:11,639 I would never marry someone who is my first love. 283 00:16:12,264 --> 00:16:16,393 Without practicing, how can we find the right one? 284 00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:18,312 [ Laughs ] 285 00:16:18,938 --> 00:16:22,232 AMANPOUR: Young people here are determined to get ahead, 286 00:16:22,232 --> 00:16:24,109 believing that with enough practice, 287 00:16:24,109 --> 00:16:26,320 anything can be learned. 288 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,948 And yet, when it comes to their love lives, 289 00:16:28,948 --> 00:16:32,368 many are absolute beginners. 290 00:16:32,994 --> 00:16:36,831 DI: Traditionally, we are a reserved people. 291 00:16:37,331 --> 00:16:38,708 In our Chinese culture, 292 00:16:38,708 --> 00:16:42,670 a human being should control his emotion, 293 00:16:42,670 --> 00:16:46,674 control his sexual desire. 294 00:16:47,884 --> 00:16:50,887 Anyone want to join us? This is a fun game. 295 00:16:51,303 --> 00:16:53,848 I received the same education. 296 00:16:54,598 --> 00:16:57,685 But I'm just not a "good" girl. 297 00:17:02,147 --> 00:17:04,942 AMANPOUR: In China, unmarried women over 27 298 00:17:04,942 --> 00:17:08,320 are unflatteringly known as "sheng nu," 299 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,031 meaning "leftovers," 300 00:17:10,031 --> 00:17:12,616 while unmarried men are "guangun," 301 00:17:12,616 --> 00:17:14,660 meaning "bare branches." 302 00:17:15,285 --> 00:17:16,913 DI: Get ready for the flowers. 303 00:17:16,913 --> 00:17:19,248 Let's see who will be the next lucky bride. 304 00:17:19,874 --> 00:17:24,003 AMANPOUR: Wu Di aims to dispel the stigma surrounding sheng nu 305 00:17:24,003 --> 00:17:25,963 and help these young singletons. 306 00:17:30,051 --> 00:17:32,678 DI: The mission of my date camp is 307 00:17:33,512 --> 00:17:37,182 change your definition of relationships and marriage. 308 00:17:38,726 --> 00:17:42,271 Introduce new vocabulary to them such as 309 00:17:42,271 --> 00:17:45,649 emotion, intimacy, sex pleasure, 310 00:17:45,649 --> 00:17:47,860 body contact. 311 00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:51,113 We're also going to watch a video. 312 00:17:51,113 --> 00:17:55,117 Twenty minutes of a video on how to have sex 313 00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:57,536 from foreplay to finish. 314 00:17:57,536 --> 00:17:59,246 [ Laughter ] 315 00:17:59,246 --> 00:18:01,916 AMANPOUR: Her date camp takes the form of weekly seminars, 316 00:18:01,916 --> 00:18:04,043 counseling and private tutoring 317 00:18:04,043 --> 00:18:09,090 in everything from how to flirt to how to dress for a date. 318 00:18:10,716 --> 00:18:13,427 I joined the dating guru for a tutoring session 319 00:18:13,427 --> 00:18:16,430 at a local boutique with a couple of her students -- 320 00:18:16,430 --> 00:18:20,977 27-year-old Eve and 32-year-old Stella. 321 00:18:20,977 --> 00:18:22,561 Have you ever dated? 322 00:18:22,561 --> 00:18:26,148 Yes, but [Sighs] most of time, after first date, 323 00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:29,652 the boys will not contact with me... 324 00:18:29,652 --> 00:18:31,737 -Again? [ Gasps ] -...again, yes. 325 00:18:31,737 --> 00:18:34,949 After the first date, you've never had another call? 326 00:18:34,949 --> 00:18:36,993 Yes, I think maybe there's something wrong 327 00:18:36,993 --> 00:18:38,911 with myself some-- 328 00:18:38,911 --> 00:18:40,913 No, nothing wrong with you. 329 00:18:40,913 --> 00:18:43,373 Today's mission is we want to find 330 00:18:43,373 --> 00:18:45,751 a beautiful dress for a date. 331 00:18:45,751 --> 00:18:48,921 What's attractive is bright color. 332 00:18:49,379 --> 00:18:51,007 So, you think I have a good chance of getting a date? 333 00:18:51,007 --> 00:18:52,925 Yeah, yeah. Little V-neck. 334 00:18:52,925 --> 00:18:54,176 AMANPOUR: I could open it more. 335 00:18:54,176 --> 00:18:56,053 -[ Laughs ] -Unbutton the -- 336 00:18:56,053 --> 00:18:58,180 -There you go. -No, no, no, no, no. 337 00:18:58,180 --> 00:18:59,556 -No? -It's too deep. 338 00:18:59,556 --> 00:19:00,933 -Too much? -This is too much? 339 00:19:00,933 --> 00:19:03,185 Your face, I mean, you look horrified. 340 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:05,729 -Really? I don't know. -[ Laughter ] 341 00:19:05,729 --> 00:19:07,606 It's just a little button. 342 00:19:07,606 --> 00:19:09,566 -We are good girls. -You're good girls? 343 00:19:09,566 --> 00:19:10,776 Yeah, we are good girls. 344 00:19:10,776 --> 00:19:13,320 I'm trying to train them to be bad girls. 345 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,031 -Bad girls? -Bad girls, yes. 346 00:19:16,782 --> 00:19:18,659 AMANPOUR: Well, I'm a little bit shocked. 347 00:19:18,659 --> 00:19:20,870 They not only look younger, they act young. 348 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:25,624 Yes, yes. They don't look like the adult women, right? 349 00:19:25,624 --> 00:19:27,417 But they are well-educated. 350 00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:29,545 They work for the multinational company, 351 00:19:29,545 --> 00:19:31,630 have very decent pay. 352 00:19:31,630 --> 00:19:33,549 -Really? -Yes. 353 00:19:33,549 --> 00:19:35,092 They're very naive. 354 00:19:35,092 --> 00:19:37,260 Unfortunately, yes. 355 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:38,929 -Oh, look, here they come. -Yeah. 356 00:19:38,929 --> 00:19:41,348 Wow! [ Laughs ] [ Speaks native language ] 357 00:19:41,348 --> 00:19:43,433 Wow! That's gorgeous. 358 00:19:43,433 --> 00:19:45,144 AMANPOUR: I want to ask you girls, 359 00:19:45,144 --> 00:19:50,440 do you think about romantic and love satisfaction? 360 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,984 Do you feel you're missing something? 361 00:19:51,984 --> 00:19:53,069 Yes. Yes. 362 00:19:53,069 --> 00:19:55,654 Everyone told us study very hard, 363 00:19:55,654 --> 00:19:57,823 to go to a very good university, 364 00:19:57,823 --> 00:19:59,658 to get a very good job, 365 00:19:59,658 --> 00:20:01,911 but no one tell us 366 00:20:01,911 --> 00:20:05,622 how to have a very good intimate relationship 367 00:20:05,622 --> 00:20:07,499 with the boys. 368 00:20:07,499 --> 00:20:08,792 How did you grow up? 369 00:20:08,792 --> 00:20:11,378 What did you see between your parents? 370 00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:14,297 -Just normal family... -Hugging, kissing, 371 00:20:14,297 --> 00:20:16,842 -did you see any of that? -No, no, no, no, no, never. 372 00:20:16,842 --> 00:20:18,385 You didn't even get kisses from your parents? 373 00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:19,678 Never, never. 374 00:20:19,678 --> 00:20:21,764 -No hug? No kiss? -No hug and no kiss. 375 00:20:21,764 --> 00:20:25,059 I sometimes feel very nervous to have the body touched. 376 00:20:25,059 --> 00:20:27,144 -The body contact. -Yeah. 377 00:20:27,144 --> 00:20:28,854 Have you ever had sex? 378 00:20:28,854 --> 00:20:30,898 -Are you a virgin? -Yeah. 379 00:20:30,898 --> 00:20:33,275 -AMANPOUR: You're a virgin? -Yeah. 380 00:20:33,275 --> 00:20:36,695 So that's the lesson we learned from the parents, right? 381 00:20:36,695 --> 00:20:40,199 "Don't let him think you are an easy girl. 382 00:20:40,199 --> 00:20:43,493 Don't have sex with him before the engagement. 383 00:20:43,493 --> 00:20:47,248 Otherwise, he will treat you as a bitch." Yeah. 384 00:20:47,248 --> 00:20:49,541 AMANPOUR: The thought that these two young women 385 00:20:49,541 --> 00:20:53,587 had never been hugged or kissed was heartbreaking. 386 00:20:54,171 --> 00:20:56,381 But I was encouraged to see that Wu Di 387 00:20:56,381 --> 00:21:00,594 was trying to teach her students a whole new set of rules. 388 00:21:01,178 --> 00:21:06,391 DI: Emotion is a new vocabulary for today's Chinese. 389 00:21:06,391 --> 00:21:10,604 Intimacy, body contact, kiss... 390 00:21:10,604 --> 00:21:12,648 For example, sex. 391 00:21:12,648 --> 00:21:15,776 Can women have sex only for pleasure? 392 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,613 Well, that's a serious question. 393 00:21:20,906 --> 00:21:23,784 I really want to help them 394 00:21:23,784 --> 00:21:28,247 to have a big vision of this world. 395 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,374 [ Laid-back electronic music plays ] 396 00:21:36,505 --> 00:21:41,677 WOMAN: The family concept that I had since childhood, 397 00:21:41,677 --> 00:21:45,264 falling in love, getting married, 398 00:21:45,264 --> 00:21:48,184 have a baby, happily ever after, 399 00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:50,894 is completely different to where I'm now. 400 00:21:50,894 --> 00:21:53,063 [ Engine idling ] 401 00:21:55,107 --> 00:21:57,318 I actually had my first marriage, 402 00:21:57,318 --> 00:21:59,903 and now I am on the fourth marriage. 403 00:21:59,903 --> 00:22:03,032 And then I have two kids from two different fathers. 404 00:22:03,032 --> 00:22:06,660 And also, continuously living the way 405 00:22:06,660 --> 00:22:09,163 that it's not a traditional family life. 406 00:22:11,456 --> 00:22:14,126 Motherhood is something very new for me, 407 00:22:14,126 --> 00:22:18,088 because I didn't feel I've learned enough from my parents. 408 00:22:20,257 --> 00:22:23,052 They never come and cuddle me, say, "I love you." 409 00:22:23,802 --> 00:22:28,265 Expression of love is very limited in most Chinese family. 410 00:22:29,141 --> 00:22:33,103 So with my kids, I try to be very open, you know. 411 00:22:33,103 --> 00:22:36,439 I try to show them maximum, my unconditional love. 412 00:22:37,358 --> 00:22:39,776 With my daughter, I want to give her the comfort 413 00:22:39,776 --> 00:22:42,529 that she can talk to me about anything. 414 00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:44,823 Whenever she feel, like, really down, 415 00:22:44,823 --> 00:22:46,909 she says, "Oh, my God, I feel... 416 00:22:46,909 --> 00:22:50,162 if I lose this boyfriend, I will never find any man." 417 00:22:50,162 --> 00:22:51,872 I say, "Don't worry. Look at me. 418 00:22:51,872 --> 00:22:54,415 I had one, two, three, four, you know." [ Laughs ] 419 00:22:54,415 --> 00:22:57,878 If it's not yours, it's not going to be there, 420 00:22:57,878 --> 00:23:00,714 and if it's yours, it will stay with you forever. 421 00:23:03,926 --> 00:23:06,678 [ Light synth music plays ] 422 00:23:06,678 --> 00:23:09,306 AMANPOUR: When I first came to Shanghai in the '70s, 423 00:23:09,306 --> 00:23:11,934 individuality was unthinkable. 424 00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:16,105 All these years later, 425 00:23:16,105 --> 00:23:19,649 I find the city is full of self-expression. 426 00:23:22,611 --> 00:23:25,864 Women have reclaimed control of their appearance, 427 00:23:25,864 --> 00:23:29,910 their sexuality, and how they use it. 428 00:23:29,910 --> 00:23:32,329 [ Electronic music plays ] 429 00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:44,341 Hello, I'm Petite Sweet Cake and I'm a live streamer. 430 00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:47,928 As a live streamer 431 00:23:47,928 --> 00:23:51,848 you make people happy by singing and dancing for them 432 00:23:51,848 --> 00:23:53,642 and talking with them. 433 00:23:53,642 --> 00:23:55,560 You become their friend. 434 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,979 Their online friend. 435 00:23:57,938 --> 00:23:59,982 AMANPOUR: In the world's most populous city, 436 00:23:59,982 --> 00:24:03,152 where social dynamics are always changing 437 00:24:03,152 --> 00:24:05,904 and urban isolation is growing, 438 00:24:05,904 --> 00:24:09,950 many people retreat online for a personal connection. 439 00:24:10,951 --> 00:24:13,203 PETITE SWEET CAKE: From the moment I start my computer 440 00:24:13,203 --> 00:24:14,371 and log on 441 00:24:14,371 --> 00:24:16,497 I see they're waiting for me. 442 00:24:16,539 --> 00:24:18,250 Waiting for me. 443 00:24:21,211 --> 00:24:23,130 Hello. 444 00:24:23,797 --> 00:24:26,133 Hello. Welcome. 445 00:24:26,758 --> 00:24:27,801 [ Laughs ] 446 00:24:29,011 --> 00:24:30,553 [ Smooches ] 447 00:24:31,305 --> 00:24:33,474 [ Chiming ] 448 00:24:36,185 --> 00:24:38,187 Please click to subscribe. 449 00:24:38,979 --> 00:24:40,981 Click, click, click! 450 00:24:42,607 --> 00:24:45,777 Most of my fans are male. 451 00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:48,864 Some of them just like me as a friend. 452 00:24:48,864 --> 00:24:51,741 But others are interested in me romantically. 453 00:24:53,285 --> 00:24:55,787 They all love me. 454 00:24:56,038 --> 00:24:59,124 AMANPOUR: But Petite Sweet Cake isn't just live-streaming 455 00:24:59,124 --> 00:25:01,710 for the love of her fans. 456 00:25:01,710 --> 00:25:04,921 For me, live streaming is a full-time job. 457 00:25:04,921 --> 00:25:06,298 It's my career. 458 00:25:06,882 --> 00:25:08,509 Another 300 hearts. 459 00:25:09,718 --> 00:25:13,055 AMANPOUR: These live streams can be very lucrative. 460 00:25:13,889 --> 00:25:18,477 Her fans show their appreciation by buying her virtual gifts, 461 00:25:18,477 --> 00:25:22,272 which translate into hard cash for Petite Sweet Cake. 462 00:25:22,898 --> 00:25:26,902 Last year alone, she earned over $300,000. 463 00:25:27,528 --> 00:25:29,363 Thank you for the roses. 464 00:25:29,363 --> 00:25:32,115 1,314 treasure boxes? 465 00:25:33,616 --> 00:25:37,871 Wow...Thank you! 466 00:25:37,871 --> 00:25:41,917 It's just a way for them to express their love. 467 00:25:42,418 --> 00:25:48,298 I'm gonna spin the turntable and see what we get today. 468 00:25:48,965 --> 00:25:50,967 After becoming a live streamer 469 00:25:50,967 --> 00:25:55,013 your personal life will definitely be affected. 470 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,765 Push-ups. 471 00:25:57,433 --> 00:26:02,145 Friends in real life grow more and more distant. 472 00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:06,649 I'm gonna start with the first one. 473 00:26:08,151 --> 00:26:10,112 I am really bad at it. 474 00:26:10,112 --> 00:26:12,613 [ Grunting, clears throat ] 475 00:26:12,613 --> 00:26:15,451 [ Grunts, laughs ] 476 00:26:16,868 --> 00:26:18,328 [ Grunts ] 477 00:26:18,328 --> 00:26:21,831 You shouldn't have a boyfriend because most 478 00:26:21,831 --> 00:26:24,460 of your time should be dedicated to your work. 479 00:26:25,335 --> 00:26:27,296 And I really love my work. 480 00:26:28,589 --> 00:26:32,342 But if I meet my true love during this time 481 00:26:32,342 --> 00:26:35,053 I'm willing to take a break for him. 482 00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:38,056 ♪ I got the fever, baby ♪ 483 00:26:38,723 --> 00:26:42,227 [ Dynamic synth music plays ] 484 00:26:42,227 --> 00:26:47,107 FENG: The big shift in China is knowledge. 485 00:26:47,107 --> 00:26:48,817 Now women start realizing 486 00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:51,111 what social norms are available to them 487 00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:53,738 that weren't available to them before. 488 00:26:53,738 --> 00:26:56,992 Women do have a right to earn their own happiness. 489 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:02,122 AMANPOUR: For a bit of R&R, 490 00:27:02,122 --> 00:27:04,124 I've met up with a well-known voice 491 00:27:04,124 --> 00:27:06,376 in the Chinese music industry. 492 00:27:11,632 --> 00:27:14,468 In China, before, sex was perceived 493 00:27:14,468 --> 00:27:17,179 as not something you ever talk about in public, 494 00:27:17,179 --> 00:27:20,015 and, um, it is still 495 00:27:20,015 --> 00:27:21,933 not talked about amongst people so much-- 496 00:27:21,933 --> 00:27:24,060 -Polite company. -Yes. 497 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:26,062 AMANPOUR: But Helen has never been one 498 00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:29,149 to shy away from an awkward conversation. 499 00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:31,943 And she's perhaps best known as the frontwoman 500 00:27:31,943 --> 00:27:36,365 of sexy and provocative indie rock band Nova Heart. 501 00:27:37,199 --> 00:27:39,700 One of your videos, one of your songs, 502 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:41,119 "Beautiful Boys," 503 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,872 is all about the idea of sex workers, right? 504 00:27:43,872 --> 00:27:44,998 FENG: Yes. 505 00:27:44,998 --> 00:27:48,043 ♪ We came this far for money ♪ 506 00:27:48,043 --> 00:27:50,295 I wanted to have a conversation about 507 00:27:50,295 --> 00:27:52,130 these different roles in society 508 00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:54,715 that we consider roles in the sex trade. 509 00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:57,302 ♪ When they're rolling down the windows ♪ 510 00:27:57,302 --> 00:27:59,304 You have, like, the streetwalker... 511 00:28:01,598 --> 00:28:03,141 ...massage parlor. 512 00:28:03,141 --> 00:28:06,811 ♪ Glisten all night, glisten all night ♪ 513 00:28:09,064 --> 00:28:10,899 You have, like, the KTV girl. 514 00:28:12,568 --> 00:28:14,777 And we portray the character as honestly as we can. 515 00:28:20,325 --> 00:28:24,329 And then at the end of it, we reveal that it's a man. 516 00:28:26,498 --> 00:28:30,085 And we show that it's actually a loving man with a family. 517 00:28:30,669 --> 00:28:33,547 I thought it was a pretty cool project 518 00:28:33,547 --> 00:28:36,383 because of the debate it stirred up. 519 00:28:36,383 --> 00:28:37,967 Some people said, "Oh, this is disgusting," 520 00:28:37,967 --> 00:28:39,344 et cetera, et cetera. 521 00:28:39,344 --> 00:28:41,096 Certain people were saying, "I was crying. 522 00:28:41,096 --> 00:28:42,598 Look what this poor man had to do 523 00:28:42,598 --> 00:28:44,182 in order to feed his family." 524 00:28:44,182 --> 00:28:46,184 But one of the things that really kind of got me 525 00:28:46,184 --> 00:28:48,604 was that until they realized it was a man, 526 00:28:48,604 --> 00:28:50,480 "Oh, it's just another sex worker." 527 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,651 So, the whole sex-worker trade has been very, very prevalent. 528 00:28:54,651 --> 00:28:56,986 Has been. Definitely going down now. 529 00:28:56,986 --> 00:28:58,154 Why do you think that is? 530 00:28:58,154 --> 00:28:59,781 It's just a different generation. 531 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:04,536 Society no longer sees it as being kosher. 532 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,663 Secondly, there's been a crackdown 533 00:29:06,663 --> 00:29:07,872 on the sex trade in general, 534 00:29:07,872 --> 00:29:09,207 so the availability has gone down. 535 00:29:09,207 --> 00:29:10,833 Third, it's economics. 536 00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:14,463 As women become the primary educated group in China... 537 00:29:14,463 --> 00:29:16,214 -Which is remarkable. -Yeah, it is. 538 00:29:16,214 --> 00:29:18,508 -In a very short period of time. -Very short period of time. 539 00:29:18,508 --> 00:29:21,428 They're not gonna choose this option. 540 00:29:21,428 --> 00:29:25,014 People don't know what they can do 541 00:29:25,014 --> 00:29:28,059 until they've been shown that it's possible. 542 00:29:28,059 --> 00:29:30,353 [ Mellow music plays ] 543 00:29:33,273 --> 00:29:35,858 [ Percussive music plays ] 544 00:29:40,614 --> 00:29:42,949 XING: I love to be onstage. 545 00:29:45,410 --> 00:29:46,953 I love dancing. 546 00:29:49,872 --> 00:29:53,460 Jin Xing is my given name. It means Golden Star. 547 00:29:55,128 --> 00:29:59,215 I had a very happy childhood with my parents. 548 00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:03,345 But I'm still a little bit doubting. 549 00:30:03,345 --> 00:30:06,765 Who am I? Something's different with me. 550 00:30:09,017 --> 00:30:11,936 [ Dramatic music plays ] 551 00:30:11,936 --> 00:30:15,774 I cannot live my life with a mask. 552 00:30:15,774 --> 00:30:17,400 I only live once. 553 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,529 I want to be myself. That's it. 554 00:30:24,115 --> 00:30:25,742 You don't know this woman. 555 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,876 Because biologically I born as a boy. 556 00:30:35,418 --> 00:30:37,003 AMANPOUR: So you were a man? 557 00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:38,463 Yes, I was a man. 558 00:30:38,463 --> 00:30:39,964 Up to 6, 7 years old, 559 00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:41,633 I know I should be a girl like my sister. 560 00:30:41,633 --> 00:30:43,426 I have an older sister. 561 00:30:43,426 --> 00:30:45,846 Then I say, "Okay, I should be like her, but I don't know how. 562 00:30:45,846 --> 00:30:47,597 Where this thinking come from?" 563 00:30:47,597 --> 00:30:51,017 Then I just keep this, you know, little thinking into my heart. 564 00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:53,269 And, of course, after I become a dancer, 565 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:55,188 I did more and more discovery of myself. 566 00:30:55,188 --> 00:30:56,690 "I should be a girl." 567 00:30:56,690 --> 00:31:00,318 AMANPOUR: But as a 9-year-old boy in the 1970s, 568 00:31:00,318 --> 00:31:01,737 Jin Xing was admitted 569 00:31:01,737 --> 00:31:04,614 to the Chinese People's Liberation Army. 570 00:31:05,824 --> 00:31:07,784 It was only in 1995 571 00:31:07,784 --> 00:31:10,453 that Jin Xing finally decided to fulfill 572 00:31:10,453 --> 00:31:12,330 her innermost ambition. 573 00:31:13,164 --> 00:31:15,458 You transitioned when you were 28 years old, right? 574 00:31:15,458 --> 00:31:16,877 Yes, yes. 575 00:31:16,877 --> 00:31:19,504 And this was way before transgender was so open. 576 00:31:19,504 --> 00:31:22,758 Homosexuality was considered a mental illness. 577 00:31:22,758 --> 00:31:25,176 Transgender was never talked about. 578 00:31:25,176 --> 00:31:27,262 We don't even think about it in China. 579 00:31:27,262 --> 00:31:28,764 You didn't even have a name for it. 580 00:31:28,764 --> 00:31:30,724 -No, no. -Was it scary, though? 581 00:31:30,724 --> 00:31:32,183 Because, I mean, let's face it, 582 00:31:32,183 --> 00:31:35,896 China wasn't known for its transgender surgery, 583 00:31:35,896 --> 00:31:37,355 for its sexual reassignment. 584 00:31:37,355 --> 00:31:39,190 I mean, did you know that you would be able 585 00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:40,650 to do this safely here? 586 00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:42,235 I was the first case. 587 00:31:42,903 --> 00:31:44,780 I gambling with myself. 588 00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:47,240 Once, 50% I leave to the doctor. 589 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,618 50% I throw on the sky. 590 00:31:49,618 --> 00:31:51,411 Was it difficult physically? 591 00:31:51,411 --> 00:31:53,872 Was it difficult emotionally when you transitioned? 592 00:31:53,872 --> 00:31:55,206 XING: I'm a dancer. 593 00:31:55,206 --> 00:31:57,542 I can bear a lot of physical pain. 594 00:31:57,542 --> 00:32:01,170 But I think most difficult is psychologically. 595 00:32:02,255 --> 00:32:04,215 Facing society. 596 00:32:04,925 --> 00:32:07,009 That's new challenge. 597 00:32:07,803 --> 00:32:10,513 But my soul, my body become one. 598 00:32:10,513 --> 00:32:12,390 That's what I want. 599 00:32:15,685 --> 00:32:17,479 AMANPOUR: Where does sexuality -- 600 00:32:17,479 --> 00:32:21,149 How does it fit into this very traditional culture? 601 00:32:21,775 --> 00:32:25,904 I think Chinese culture have a lot of space for tolerance. 602 00:32:25,904 --> 00:32:27,489 -Really? -XING: Yeah. 603 00:32:27,489 --> 00:32:29,449 But we just don't talk about it. 604 00:32:29,449 --> 00:32:32,118 That's a big thing between Chinese and the Western. 605 00:32:32,118 --> 00:32:35,705 Western love to labelize everything. 606 00:32:35,705 --> 00:32:38,625 Sometimes in life, certain things you cannot explain. 607 00:32:38,625 --> 00:32:40,418 Just let it be. 608 00:32:40,418 --> 00:32:42,003 I think I follow my heart. 609 00:32:42,003 --> 00:32:44,213 So tell me about matters of the heart. 610 00:32:44,213 --> 00:32:46,257 -You're married... -XING: Yes. 611 00:32:46,257 --> 00:32:47,634 AMANPOUR: ...to a German citizen. 612 00:32:47,634 --> 00:32:48,802 XING: Yes. 613 00:32:48,802 --> 00:32:50,720 AMANPOUR: How did you fall in love? 614 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,473 XING: In that time, he have no idea who I am. 615 00:32:53,473 --> 00:32:54,975 He only know I'm a dancer. 616 00:32:54,975 --> 00:32:56,267 So I tell all my story. 617 00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:57,936 I was a man. I was transgender. 618 00:32:57,936 --> 00:33:00,021 "This woman's a huge package." 619 00:33:00,021 --> 00:33:01,898 He complete blow away. 620 00:33:01,898 --> 00:33:03,900 And after the one day, he come back. 621 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:05,568 "Yes, I still want to date you." 622 00:33:06,862 --> 00:33:09,447 2005, we married. 623 00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:12,033 My personal opinion is, 624 00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:13,994 love and marriage is separate things. 625 00:33:13,994 --> 00:33:15,954 -[ Laughs ] -Maybe Westerners think, 626 00:33:15,954 --> 00:33:18,790 "Because we love so much, we get married." 627 00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:21,042 But in China, love is love. 628 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,127 Marriage is another issue. 629 00:33:24,462 --> 00:33:27,924 Marriage, I think two people must be working together. 630 00:33:27,924 --> 00:33:29,926 That's kind of like a job. 631 00:33:29,926 --> 00:33:31,511 It is. It is. 632 00:33:31,511 --> 00:33:33,095 Do you have a good sex life? 633 00:33:33,095 --> 00:33:35,181 Very good. Very good. 634 00:33:36,016 --> 00:33:37,934 My husband once told me, 635 00:33:37,934 --> 00:33:40,603 "Mmm, I'm very happy I'm still attracted by you." 636 00:33:40,603 --> 00:33:42,271 -I say, "Good." -[ Laughs ] 637 00:33:42,271 --> 00:33:44,357 "Come on, we are facing a life, 638 00:33:44,357 --> 00:33:45,859 so you need to talk." 639 00:33:45,859 --> 00:33:47,276 So we're laughing about it. 640 00:33:47,276 --> 00:33:50,405 Are there many women, public women like you, 641 00:33:50,405 --> 00:33:52,615 in China who are as sassy, 642 00:33:52,615 --> 00:33:54,868 who are willing to push the boundaries 643 00:33:54,868 --> 00:33:56,828 and talk as bluntly as you do? 644 00:33:56,828 --> 00:33:59,664 I can tell you, Shanghainese women are famous for that. 645 00:34:00,289 --> 00:34:01,666 -Wow. -Wow. 646 00:34:01,666 --> 00:34:03,459 XING: Make your life. You'll want it. 647 00:34:03,459 --> 00:34:05,921 And you'll go for it. 648 00:34:06,421 --> 00:34:07,714 -Cheers. -Cheers. 649 00:34:16,514 --> 00:34:18,767 [ Indistinct conversations ] 650 00:34:25,065 --> 00:34:28,109 WOMAN: Traditional Chinese love is about sacrifice. 651 00:34:30,737 --> 00:34:34,240 In China, happiness is a luxury. 652 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,743 Family is so much more important. 653 00:34:36,743 --> 00:34:40,204 And happiness is something not 100% necessary. 654 00:34:41,247 --> 00:34:46,795 But I think in order to know how to love 655 00:34:46,795 --> 00:34:49,338 you have to love yourself first. 656 00:34:50,256 --> 00:34:51,591 This is what I believe. 657 00:35:01,476 --> 00:35:03,937 What do you love about Angela? 658 00:35:04,437 --> 00:35:07,065 Wow. Honest. 659 00:35:07,565 --> 00:35:09,985 -Honesty. -Yeah. 660 00:35:09,985 --> 00:35:11,861 Only one? [ Laughs ] 661 00:35:15,031 --> 00:35:19,452 AMANPOUR: Homosexuality was only decriminalized here in 1997, 662 00:35:19,452 --> 00:35:22,622 but for many gay couples, the biggest hurdle to overcome 663 00:35:22,622 --> 00:35:24,833 is not the judgment of society, 664 00:35:24,833 --> 00:35:27,002 but the judgment of their families. 665 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:31,047 You didn't come out till you were 31? 666 00:35:31,047 --> 00:35:32,465 Yeah. 667 00:35:32,465 --> 00:35:34,300 What was your mother and your father thinking? 668 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,094 -Because in China... -Right. 669 00:35:36,094 --> 00:35:38,763 ...it's kind of odd for a girl not to be married, right? 670 00:35:38,763 --> 00:35:40,015 Oh, I was married. 671 00:35:40,015 --> 00:35:41,599 -You were married? -Yes. 672 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:46,104 That's very famous in Chinese homosexual society. 673 00:35:46,104 --> 00:35:48,606 This is a way that we help each other. 674 00:35:48,606 --> 00:35:50,525 A lot of us is doing that. 675 00:35:50,525 --> 00:35:51,985 That's a marriage for convenience. 676 00:35:51,985 --> 00:35:54,737 Just so I'm clear, you got married 677 00:35:54,737 --> 00:35:58,825 in order to kind of divert your parents' attention? 678 00:35:58,825 --> 00:36:00,160 Right, yeah. 679 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,662 I was under a lot of stress and pressure 680 00:36:02,662 --> 00:36:04,706 as the only child. 681 00:36:04,706 --> 00:36:07,291 My dad was also dying at the time. 682 00:36:07,291 --> 00:36:09,251 But I knew my parents' wish 683 00:36:09,251 --> 00:36:10,920 was always for me to get married, 684 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,297 -and, um, going on... -Have a baby. 685 00:36:13,297 --> 00:36:15,008 -That is so hard. -ANGELA: Yeah. 686 00:36:15,008 --> 00:36:18,845 This marriage was so much more complicated than I thought. 687 00:36:18,845 --> 00:36:20,013 So, what happened? 688 00:36:20,013 --> 00:36:22,515 We've been dating for four years. 689 00:36:22,515 --> 00:36:25,852 I thought, you know, she was really the love of my life. 690 00:36:25,852 --> 00:36:27,687 I shouldn't, 691 00:36:27,687 --> 00:36:30,773 and I couldn't continue a life with all the lies, 692 00:36:30,773 --> 00:36:33,359 so I decided to end that marriage. 693 00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:34,485 Yeah. 694 00:36:37,739 --> 00:36:38,948 All right. 695 00:36:42,202 --> 00:36:44,662 So, what did you tell your mother? 696 00:36:44,662 --> 00:36:46,956 Well, basically that I was born like this, 697 00:36:46,956 --> 00:36:49,291 and that it was nobody's fault, 698 00:36:49,291 --> 00:36:51,127 and there was nothing wrong with me. 699 00:36:51,127 --> 00:36:54,589 My own mother should be able to accept me 700 00:36:54,589 --> 00:36:56,674 -at the end of the day. -And did she? 701 00:36:56,674 --> 00:36:59,844 -She did, after 4 1/2 years. -What? 702 00:36:59,844 --> 00:37:03,305 She only came around and accepted us last year. 703 00:37:03,305 --> 00:37:04,432 -Really? -Yeah. 704 00:37:04,432 --> 00:37:05,516 Yeah. 705 00:37:07,143 --> 00:37:10,105 AMANPOUR: You two have both struggled quite mightily 706 00:37:10,105 --> 00:37:12,815 to be in love and to be together. 707 00:37:13,524 --> 00:37:16,569 How important has your inner life been to you, 708 00:37:16,569 --> 00:37:19,488 your emotional life, your sexual satisfaction? 709 00:37:19,488 --> 00:37:23,785 I feel quite satisfied on all levels in our relationship, 710 00:37:23,785 --> 00:37:26,579 emotionally and sexually. 711 00:37:26,579 --> 00:37:28,039 And we share the same shoes. 712 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:29,207 [ Laughs ] 713 00:37:29,207 --> 00:37:30,917 -ANGELA: Yes. -I like it. 714 00:37:34,129 --> 00:37:36,089 AMANPOUR: What would Confucius make 715 00:37:36,089 --> 00:37:39,175 of a modern Shanghainese family? 716 00:37:39,175 --> 00:37:41,844 [ Machinery hissing ] 717 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:47,516 Zhang Huan is one of China's best-known artists. 718 00:37:48,893 --> 00:37:51,062 Thank you. It's so nice to see you. 719 00:37:51,062 --> 00:37:54,232 He invited me to meet his family... 720 00:37:57,986 --> 00:38:02,406 ...wife and fellow artist Junjun and son Sean. 721 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:09,413 What is the concept of love and partnership in China, 722 00:38:09,413 --> 00:38:11,082 especially in Shanghai today? 723 00:38:11,082 --> 00:38:14,335 Western people, they always show love each other, 724 00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:16,671 like many movies we see, you know? 725 00:38:16,671 --> 00:38:20,842 Chinese people actually not really kiss in public. 726 00:38:20,842 --> 00:38:22,969 -Do you guys kiss in public? -No. 727 00:38:22,969 --> 00:38:24,929 -[ Laughter ] -You're Chinese people. 728 00:38:24,929 --> 00:38:26,555 [ Laughter ] 729 00:38:26,555 --> 00:38:29,142 But we love each other. 730 00:38:29,142 --> 00:38:30,392 That's true. 731 00:38:30,392 --> 00:38:31,727 [ Laughter ] 732 00:38:31,727 --> 00:38:34,105 So, when he declares his love for you, 733 00:38:34,105 --> 00:38:36,398 -what do you think? -No, I just give a joke. 734 00:38:36,398 --> 00:38:38,359 I said, "Liar, you're a liar." 735 00:38:38,359 --> 00:38:42,238 I always told Junjun, "I'm not liar. 736 00:38:42,238 --> 00:38:46,034 We love more than 25 years, 737 00:38:46,034 --> 00:38:47,952 so please believe me." 738 00:38:47,952 --> 00:38:49,996 -[ Laughs ] -"I really love you." 739 00:38:49,996 --> 00:38:51,747 Yeah, so he's saying he hasn't been pretending. 740 00:38:51,747 --> 00:38:53,249 [ Laughs ] Yeah, right. 741 00:38:53,249 --> 00:38:54,917 What do you think when you hear your parents 742 00:38:54,917 --> 00:38:56,544 declare that kind of raw emotion? 743 00:38:56,544 --> 00:38:59,172 I've actually never heard that. It's the first time. 744 00:38:59,172 --> 00:39:00,965 I mean, they rarely talk about stuff, 745 00:39:00,965 --> 00:39:03,384 I mean, like, the emotional side of their relationship. 746 00:39:03,384 --> 00:39:05,094 So are you blushing? 747 00:39:05,094 --> 00:39:06,762 -No, I'm not. No. -[ Laughter ] 748 00:39:06,762 --> 00:39:10,599 No, but I'm just kind of, like, confused at this whole... 749 00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:13,769 I think it's the conventional way in China, 750 00:39:13,769 --> 00:39:15,855 is that the child tend to feel a need 751 00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:19,567 to actually keep to themselves about things like that, 752 00:39:19,567 --> 00:39:20,943 except in my family, 753 00:39:20,943 --> 00:39:23,404 'cause I think we're more open about things. 754 00:39:23,404 --> 00:39:24,613 And what do you share? 755 00:39:24,613 --> 00:39:28,284 Any sort of close intimacy I've had. 756 00:39:28,284 --> 00:39:29,285 [ Laughs ] 757 00:39:29,285 --> 00:39:30,703 I tend to just feel happier 758 00:39:30,703 --> 00:39:32,830 if I'm doing well in that regard. 759 00:39:32,830 --> 00:39:36,209 I'm very happy that he can talk everything to us. 760 00:39:36,209 --> 00:39:37,793 I think I'm very lucky. 761 00:39:37,793 --> 00:39:39,295 That is very lucky, actually, 762 00:39:39,295 --> 00:39:41,463 especially to have your son talk to you as a mom 763 00:39:41,463 --> 00:39:42,924 -about intimate things. -Right, right. 764 00:39:42,924 --> 00:39:44,675 -You don't judge? -Yeah, yeah. 765 00:39:44,675 --> 00:39:46,677 I think she just guides us along. 766 00:39:46,677 --> 00:39:51,557 My family, the children, the name, everything, 767 00:39:51,557 --> 00:39:52,767 Junjun decide everything. 768 00:39:52,767 --> 00:39:53,935 [ Laughter ] 769 00:39:53,935 --> 00:39:56,104 She is my boss. 770 00:39:56,104 --> 00:39:57,897 Really. [ Chuckles ] 771 00:39:57,897 --> 00:40:00,191 I just focus my art. 772 00:40:00,191 --> 00:40:02,777 -This is what you do? -Yeah, I just focus my art. 773 00:40:07,365 --> 00:40:10,743 I think the most important thing in my future is that... 774 00:40:10,743 --> 00:40:12,787 Don't cheat on me. 775 00:40:12,787 --> 00:40:15,623 Never cheat on me! 776 00:40:15,623 --> 00:40:20,002 Everyone wants a huge house. 777 00:40:20,002 --> 00:40:22,422 I have the same dream. 778 00:40:22,422 --> 00:40:28,219 Travel around the world. See new places. 779 00:40:28,219 --> 00:40:30,430 I would like to have two children. 780 00:40:30,430 --> 00:40:32,432 And then... 781 00:40:32,848 --> 00:40:34,016 one Husky. 782 00:40:34,016 --> 00:40:35,726 [ Giggles ] 783 00:40:35,726 --> 00:40:38,020 But still, I want to emphasize this. 784 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:40,522 Never cheat on me. 785 00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:44,860 [ Mid-tempo music plays ] 786 00:40:44,860 --> 00:40:48,530 AMANPOUR: Shanghai is a city that's charging into the future 787 00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:52,910 while still devoted to ancient traditions. 788 00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:55,079 Attitudes to love and sex 789 00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:58,958 have certainly come a long way since the days of Mao. 790 00:41:00,335 --> 00:41:04,755 And while there is a moral rigidity to society, 791 00:41:04,755 --> 00:41:07,383 there's a fluidity to the people... 792 00:41:09,802 --> 00:41:11,971 ...as they navigate their complex 793 00:41:11,971 --> 00:41:14,140 and ever-changing environment, 794 00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:18,644 finding their own paths to self-expression.