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>> richardson: There were jobs
that I of course would've loved
to have been a part of.

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That I of course would've loved
to have been a part of.
I think that it saved me for

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to have been a part of.
I think that it saved me for
what my -- what my reality is

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I think that it saved me for
what my -- what my reality is
now and what I'm really, really

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what my -- what my reality is
now and what I'm really, really
good at.

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Now and what I'm really, really
good at.
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good at.
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I think that's why I stopped

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♪
I think that's why I stopped
acting.

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I think that's why I stopped
acting.
It's like I didn't plan on not

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acting.
It's like I didn't plan on not
acting anymore, but in order to

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it's like I didn't plan on not
acting anymore, but in order to
get good at something, you have

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acting anymore, but in order to
get good at something, you have
to immerse yourself in it.

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Get good at something, you have
to immerse yourself in it.
And I knew that if I didn't jump

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to immerse yourself in it.
And I knew that if I didn't jump
all the way into it, it was

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and I knew that if I didn't jump
all the way into it, it was
gonna become this actress who

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all the way into it, it was
gonna become this actress who
was just dabbling.

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Gonna become this actress who
was just dabbling.
And I go, "I think that I'm good

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was just dabbling.
And I go, "I think that I'm good
enough at this.

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And I go, "I think that I'm good
enough at this.
I think I like it enough that I

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enough at this.
I think I like it enough that I
have to trust that this is what

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I think I like it enough that I
have to trust that this is what
I'm supposed to do."

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have to trust that this is what
I'm supposed to do."
and it's -- and it's paid off.

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I'm supposed to do."
and it's -- and it's paid off.
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and it's -- and it's paid off.
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growing up in chicago in
hyde park, which is the
south side, was a very unique

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hyde park, which is the
south side, was a very unique
experience I think, because

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south side, was a very unique
experience I think, because
I think of it in terms of race.

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Experience I think, because
I think of it in terms of race.
I was very lucky.

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I think of it in terms of race.
I was very lucky.
I was a mixed kid.

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I was very lucky.
I was a mixed kid.
A white father, black mother.

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I was a mixed kid.
A white father, black mother.
But hyde park was this really

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a white father, black mother.
But hyde park was this really
small area where there were,

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but hyde park was this really
small area where there were,
like, a lot of mixed marriages.

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Small area where there were,
like, a lot of mixed marriages.
Maybe it was the university of

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like, a lot of mixed marriages.
Maybe it was the university of
chicago area, so it was never

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maybe it was the university of
chicago area, so it was never
strange for me.

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Chicago area, so it was never
strange for me.
I never felt out of place.

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Strange for me.
I never felt out of place.
I never felt like I had to...

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I never felt out of place.
I never felt like I had to...
Say, "oh, I'm this" or "I'm

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I never felt like I had to...
Say, "oh, I'm this" or "I'm
that."

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say, "oh, I'm this" or "I'm
that."
it wasn't until, honestly,

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that."
it wasn't until, honestly,
I got older and moved to

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it wasn't until, honestly,
I got older and moved to
california and started really

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I got older and moved to
california and started really
working in this business that I

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california and started really
working in this business that I
really realized how much race

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working in this business that I
really realized how much race
would play in my career.

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Really realized how much race
would play in my career.
Growing up on the south side of

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would play in my career.
Growing up on the south side of
chicago I think for me was that

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growing up on the south side of
chicago I think for me was that
I got a taste of a lot of

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chicago I think for me was that
I got a taste of a lot of
different worlds.

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I got a taste of a lot of
different worlds.
The university of chicago area

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different worlds.
The university of chicago area
where I went to school was...

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The university of chicago area
where I went to school was...
More insulated, you know?

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Where I went to school was...
More insulated, you know?
More -- you know, obviously it's

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more insulated, you know?
More -- you know, obviously it's
a lot of faculty and staff.

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More -- you know, obviously it's
a lot of faculty and staff.
Then you go over to stony island

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a lot of faculty and staff.
Then you go over to stony island
and you get a little further

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then you go over to stony island
and you get a little further
south and you have, you know,

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and you get a little further
south and you have, you know,
more of us there.

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South and you have, you know,
more of us there.
So it kind of -- I think it's

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more of us there.
So it kind of -- I think it's
helped me in my life now.

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So it kind of -- I think it's
helped me in my life now.
I can sort of navigate the --

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helped me in my life now.
I can sort of navigate the --
any world I go through.

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I can sort of navigate the --
any world I go through.
I can navigate the black world,

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any world I go through.
I can navigate the black world,
I can navigate the white world,

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I can navigate the black world,
I can navigate the white world,
because that's really how I

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I can navigate the white world,
because that's really how I
grew up.

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Because that's really how I
grew up.
There were times my mother and I

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grew up.
There were times my mother and I
lived in, you know, in really

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there were times my mother and I
lived in, you know, in really
nice neighborhoods.

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Lived in, you know, in really
nice neighborhoods.
There were times where things

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nice neighborhoods.
There were times where things
were a bit shady.

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There were times where things
were a bit shady.
I mean, we were definitely in

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were a bit shady.
I mean, we were definitely in
neighborhoods where you go to

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I mean, we were definitely in
neighborhoods where you go to
the grocery store, there's --

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neighborhoods where you go to
the grocery store, there's --
you know, they got the glass up

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the grocery store, there's --
you know, they got the glass up
in the store.

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You know, they got the glass up
in the store.
When I look back now, there's

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in the store.
When I look back now, there's
some streets I walked through

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when I look back now, there's
some streets I walked through
where I went, "ooh, I was

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some streets I walked through
where I went, "ooh, I was
walking through there by

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where I went, "ooh, I was
walking through there by
myself?"

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walking through there by
myself?"
and I remember my grandmother --

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myself?"
and I remember my grandmother --
we used to live on this -- I

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and I remember my grandmother --
we used to live on this -- I
think we were around

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we used to live on this -- I
think we were around
63rd street.

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Think we were around
63rd street.
And my grandmother got mugged

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63rd street.
And my grandmother got mugged
walking through the park there

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and my grandmother got mugged
walking through the park there
going home.

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Walking through the park there
going home.
And I always remember coming --

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going home.
And I always remember coming --
like, this tells you how old I

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and I always remember coming --
like, this tells you how old I
am.

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Like, this tells you how old I
am.
You come home to the alarm on

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am.
You come home to the alarm on
the car.

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You come home to the alarm on
the car.
You'd have to get out of the car

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the car.
You'd have to get out of the car
with the little key to turn the

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you'd have to get out of the car
with the little key to turn the
alarm on.

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With the little key to turn the
alarm on.
And if I was coming home late,

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alarm on.
And if I was coming home late,
that scared me more than

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and if I was coming home late,
that scared me more than
anything, 'cause I'm like,

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that scared me more than
anything, 'cause I'm like,
"I'm pretty sure putting the

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anything, 'cause I'm like,
"I'm pretty sure putting the
alarm on this car is when

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"I'm pretty sure putting the
alarm on this car is when
they're gonna get me."

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alarm on this car is when
they're gonna get me."
'cause we were right across from

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they're gonna get me."
'cause we were right across from
the park, and it was real -- we

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'cause we were right across from
the park, and it was real -- we
were like right on the outskirts

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the park, and it was real -- we
were like right on the outskirts
of what was good and what was

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were like right on the outskirts
of what was good and what was
bad.

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Of what was good and what was
bad.
I think now with my daughter and

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bad.
I think now with my daughter and
my son, who have no idea what

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I think now with my daughter and
my son, who have no idea what
any of this means, I'm always

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my son, who have no idea what
any of this means, I'm always
trying to give them at least a

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any of this means, I'm always
trying to give them at least a
little bit of the street I still

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trying to give them at least a
little bit of the street I still
have in me and be like, "watch

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little bit of the street I still
have in me and be like, "watch
your back.

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Have in me and be like, "watch
your back.
People are always watching you."

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your back.
People are always watching you."
growing up, I was definitely

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people are always watching you."
growing up, I was definitely
alone a lot.

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Growing up, I was definitely
alone a lot.
I was lucky I still had both of

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alone a lot.
I was lucky I still had both of
my parents in my life, but my

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I was lucky I still had both of
my parents in my life, but my
parents were divorced.

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My parents in my life, but my
parents were divorced.
My mother worked, so, you know,

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parents were divorced.
My mother worked, so, you know,
I took a bus to school, came

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my mother worked, so, you know,
I took a bus to school, came
home on the bus.

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I took a bus to school, came
home on the bus.
In the summers, my mother's at

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home on the bus.
In the summers, my mother's at
work, I'm at home by myself,

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in the summers, my mother's at
work, I'm at home by myself,
even though I did work in the

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work, I'm at home by myself,
even though I did work in the
summer for my grandmother at her

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even though I did work in the
summer for my grandmother at her
dry cleaners.

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Summer for my grandmother at her
dry cleaners.
But I definitely was what they

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dry cleaners.
But I definitely was what they
would call the latchkey kid.

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But I definitely was what they
would call the latchkey kid.
You know, I was there cooking,

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would call the latchkey kid.
You know, I was there cooking,
cleaning, waiting for my mom to

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you know, I was there cooking,
cleaning, waiting for my mom to
get home and only getting into a

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cleaning, waiting for my mom to
get home and only getting into a
little bit of trouble.

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Get home and only getting into a
little bit of trouble.
I think my mom -- you know, my

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little bit of trouble.
I think my mom -- you know, my
mother -- I had a younger

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I think my mom -- you know, my
mother -- I had a younger
mother.

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Mother -- I had a younger
mother.
Not like super -- she wasn't

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mother.
Not like super -- she wasn't
like a child, you know, bride or

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not like super -- she wasn't
like a child, you know, bride or
anything.

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Like a child, you know, bride or
anything.
My mother had me at 20, so we

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anything.
My mother had me at 20, so we
were pretty close to the same

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my mother had me at 20, so we
were pretty close to the same
age.

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Were pretty close to the same
age.
So, my mother and I had a pretty

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age.
So, my mother and I had a pretty
close...I would say...

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So, my mother and I had a pretty
close...I would say...
Friendship until she'd pick up

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close...I would say...
Friendship until she'd pick up
her shoe.

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Friendship until she'd pick up
her shoe.
No. [ laughs ]

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her shoe.
No. [ laughs ]
then she wasn't my friend no

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no. [ laughs ]
then she wasn't my friend no
more.

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Then she wasn't my friend no
more.
But I think we kind of -- you

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more.
But I think we kind of -- you
know, we kind of made it

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but I think we kind of -- you
know, we kind of made it
together.

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Know, we kind of made it
together.
We grew up together.

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Together.
We grew up together.
We found our way through life

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we grew up together.
We found our way through life
together.

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We found our way through life
together.
So, I think of my mom -- and now

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together.
So, I think of my mom -- and now
even -- as my best friend.

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So, I think of my mom -- and now
even -- as my best friend.
We really helped each other at

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even -- as my best friend.
We really helped each other at
times.

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We really helped each other at
times.
My parents got divorced, but my

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times.
My parents got divorced, but my
father moved a few blocks down

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my parents got divorced, but my
father moved a few blocks down
the street when he first moved,

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father moved a few blocks down
the street when he first moved,
and then when we couldn't afford

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the street when he first moved,
and then when we couldn't afford
the apartment we were in anymore

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and then when we couldn't afford
the apartment we were in anymore
because my parents weren't

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the apartment we were in anymore
because my parents weren't
together, we moved into the same

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because my parents weren't
together, we moved into the same
building that he lived in, a few

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together, we moved into the same
building that he lived in, a few
floors above him.

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Building that he lived in, a few
floors above him.
It really worked out.

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Floors above him.
It really worked out.
I literally would go up and down

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it really worked out.
I literally would go up and down
stairs.

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I literally would go up and down
stairs.
I could go upstairs to see my

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stairs.
I could go upstairs to see my
dad for a few days.

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I could go upstairs to see my
dad for a few days.
I could come downstairs.

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Dad for a few days.
I could come downstairs.
It was almost like they were

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I could come downstairs.
It was almost like they were
living together, except that I

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it was almost like they were
living together, except that I
didn't have to hear any

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living together, except that I
didn't have to hear any
arguments, you know?

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Didn't have to hear any
arguments, you know?
So it was -- I mean, as far as

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arguments, you know?
So it was -- I mean, as far as
divorces go, that's not too bad.

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So it was -- I mean, as far as
divorces go, that's not too bad.
My father worked at the

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divorces go, that's not too bad.
My father worked at the
university of chicago.

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My father worked at the
university of chicago.
He was head of the community

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university of chicago.
He was head of the community
affairs for probably like...

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He was head of the community
affairs for probably like...
I don't know. 30 -- 30 years.

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Affairs for probably like...
I don't know. 30 -- 30 years.
And that's how I was able to go

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I don't know. 30 -- 30 years.
And that's how I was able to go
to the university of chicago lab

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and that's how I was able to go
to the university of chicago lab
school.

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To the university of chicago lab
school.
My mother was definitely the --

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school.
My mother was definitely the --
was gonna put her foot in my

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my mother was definitely the --
was gonna put her foot in my
butt if something went wrong.

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Was gonna put her foot in my
butt if something went wrong.
My children will kill me.

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Butt if something went wrong.
My children will kill me.
So, at some point -- my daughter

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my children will kill me.
So, at some point -- my daughter
will never do this -- I had a

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so, at some point -- my daughter
will never do this -- I had a
hickey on my neck.

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Will never do this -- I had a
hickey on my neck.
I was -- I mean, I was a

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hickey on my neck.
I was -- I mean, I was a
reasonable 16.

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I was -- I mean, I was a
reasonable 16.
You know, it wasn't like too

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reasonable 16.
You know, it wasn't like too
young.

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You know, it wasn't like too
young.
But I remember I got in the

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young.
But I remember I got in the
elevator, and I just -- I

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but I remember I got in the
elevator, and I just -- I
thought I had my head to the

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elevator, and I just -- I
thought I had my head to the
side a little bit, and I could

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thought I had my head to the
side a little bit, and I could
see it in her eyes right when

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side a little bit, and I could
see it in her eyes right when
she saw it.

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See it in her eyes right when
she saw it.
And just as I saw that she saw

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she saw it.
And just as I saw that she saw
it, this hand came out of

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and just as I saw that she saw
it, this hand came out of
nowhere I think and smack--

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it, this hand came out of
nowhere I think and smack--
I think I might've bounced back

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nowhere I think and smack--
I think I might've bounced back
and forth.

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I think I might've bounced back
and forth.
But to this day, I don't think

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and forth.
But to this day, I don't think
my husband can come close to

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but to this day, I don't think
my husband can come close to
my -- if you came near to

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my husband can come close to
my -- if you came near to
sucking my neck too long, I've

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my -- if you came near to
sucking my neck too long, I've
never had a hickey again in my

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sucking my neck too long, I've
never had a hickey again in my
life.

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Never had a hickey again in my
life.
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life.
[ laughs ]
so, that would just tell you

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[ laughs ]
so, that would just tell you
all you need to know about

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so, that would just tell you
all you need to know about
marcia.

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All you need to know about
marcia.
My mother was -- I mean, you

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marcia.
My mother was -- I mean, you
know, she's a single mom.

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My mother was -- I mean, you
know, she's a single mom.
She's trying to keep me...

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Know, she's a single mom.
She's trying to keep me...
Focused on life and not boys and

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she's trying to keep me...
Focused on life and not boys and
not getting into the little bit

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focused on life and not boys and
not getting into the little bit
of trouble I was getting into.

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Not getting into the little bit
of trouble I was getting into.
And, you know, I don't -- it's

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of trouble I was getting into.
And, you know, I don't -- it's
so funny, 'cause I have a

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and, you know, I don't -- it's
so funny, 'cause I have a
completely different

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so funny, 'cause I have a
completely different
relationship as far -- you know,

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completely different
relationship as far -- you know,
we're new-age parents.

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Relationship as far -- you know,
we're new-age parents.
I have never touched my

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we're new-age parents.
I have never touched my
children.

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I have never touched my
children.
But I think, you know, probably

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children.
But I think, you know, probably
at that time, I needed a strong

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but I think, you know, probably
at that time, I needed a strong
hand.

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At that time, I needed a strong
hand.
I think the things that

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hand.
I think the things that
influenced me the most growing

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I think the things that
influenced me the most growing
up and sort of have led to where

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influenced me the most growing
up and sort of have led to where
I am now is that there was a

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up and sort of have led to where
I am now is that there was a
point in my life where my mother

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I am now is that there was a
point in my life where my mother
was working in a recording

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point in my life where my mother
was working in a recording
studio, and she was managing the

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was working in a recording
studio, and she was managing the
studio.

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Studio, and she was managing the
studio.
I always was in choir, the

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studio.
I always was in choir, the
chicago -- chicago children's

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I always was in choir, the
chicago -- chicago children's
choir, which would travel all

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chicago -- chicago children's
choir, which would travel all
over the place -- and I used to

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choir, which would travel all
over the place -- and I used to
love to sing.

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Over the place -- and I used to
love to sing.
So, she's at the recording

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love to sing.
So, she's at the recording
studio, and I would sit in there

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so, she's at the recording
studio, and I would sit in there
on, you know, live recording

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studio, and I would sit in there
on, you know, live recording
sessions.

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On, you know, live recording
sessions.
And I kind of got this, you

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sessions.
And I kind of got this, you
know, this itch from that and

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and I kind of got this, you
know, this itch from that and
being around that world with my

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know, this itch from that and
being around that world with my
mother.

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Being around that world with my
mother.
And let me tell you, I thought

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mother.
And let me tell you, I thought
my mother was, like, living the

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and let me tell you, I thought
my mother was, like, living the
best life.

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My mother was, like, living the
best life.
They were having a good time.

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Best life.
They were having a good time.
And I just wanted to be in that

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they were having a good time.
And I just wanted to be in that
world, and I think that that's

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and I just wanted to be in that
world, and I think that that's
kind of what drew me into it.

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World, and I think that that's
kind of what drew me into it.
It's also the guy who owned the

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kind of what drew me into it.
It's also the guy who owned the
studio was the person who became

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it's also the guy who owned the
studio was the person who became
my manager when I first started

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studio was the person who became
my manager when I first started
and really...Helped me get my

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my manager when I first started
and really...Helped me get my
first auditions and, you know,

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and really...Helped me get my
first auditions and, you know,
get my first gigs.

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First auditions and, you know,
get my first gigs.
So that studio really helped me

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get my first gigs.
So that studio really helped me
out a lot.

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So that studio really helped me
out a lot.
I think that there were times in

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out a lot.
I think that there were times in
the studio where they were doing

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I think that there were times in
the studio where they were doing
these live concerts with, like,

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the studio where they were doing
these live concerts with, like,
groups like sting and

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these live concerts with, like,
groups like sting and
david bowie, and so, like, at,

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groups like sting and
david bowie, and so, like, at,
I don't know, 11, 12, I'm

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david bowie, and so, like, at,
I don't know, 11, 12, I'm
sitting on the floor in the

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I don't know, 11, 12, I'm
sitting on the floor in the
studio while they're having

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sitting on the floor in the
studio while they're having
these live jam sessions.

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Studio while they're having
these live jam sessions.
And that just really opens up

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these live jam sessions.
And that just really opens up
your eyes to something different

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and that just really opens up
your eyes to something different
that I never would've know about

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your eyes to something different
that I never would've know about
living in chicago on the

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that I never would've know about
living in chicago on the
south side and, you know, my

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living in chicago on the
south side and, you know, my
father being an educator.

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>> richardson: So, my very first
acting gig was at the
kuumba workshop.

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Acting gig was at the
kuumba workshop.
My mother saw an ad in a

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kuumba workshop.
My mother saw an ad in a
newspaper for a play that they

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my mother saw an ad in a
newspaper for a play that they
were doing that

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newspaper for a play that they
were doing that
gwendolyn brooks, the poet --

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were doing that
gwendolyn brooks, the poet --
they had adapted one of her

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gwendolyn brooks, the poet --
they had adapted one of her
poems, "the tiger who wore white

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they had adapted one of her
poems, "the tiger who wore white
gloves," into a musical.

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Poems, "the tiger who wore white
gloves," into a musical.
♪

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gloves," into a musical.
♪
I got the lead in the play, and

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♪
I got the lead in the play, and
[chuckles] I had a little tiger

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I got the lead in the play, and
[chuckles] I had a little tiger
outfit on and some cornrows in

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[chuckles] I had a little tiger
outfit on and some cornrows in
my hair.

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Outfit on and some cornrows in
my hair.
And that was my first

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my hair.
And that was my first
experience.

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And that was my first
experience.
Like, between that and the

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experience.
Like, between that and the
studio, it's -- I think it's

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like, between that and the
studio, it's -- I think it's
the thing that goes, "okay."

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studio, it's -- I think it's
the thing that goes, "okay."
I'm like, "this I'm pretty good

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the thing that goes, "okay."
I'm like, "this I'm pretty good
at."

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I'm like, "this I'm pretty good
at."
then I started doing things at

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at."
then I started doing things at
school too, but I think that was

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then I started doing things at
school too, but I think that was
really the thing that, you know,

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school too, but I think that was
really the thing that, you know,
launched me into wanting to be

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really the thing that, you know,
launched me into wanting to be
an actor.

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>> richardson: When I look back,
that musical and then one that I
did in school -- I think it did

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that musical and then one that I
did in school -- I think it did
"bye bye birdie" in school --

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did in school -- I think it did
"bye bye birdie" in school --
were really the musicals I did.

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"bye bye birdie" in school --
were really the musicals I did.
I just continued singing and

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were really the musicals I did.
I just continued singing and
then, like I said, my mother

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I just continued singing and
then, like I said, my mother
worked at the recording studio,

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then, like I said, my mother
worked at the recording studio,
so I started recording music

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worked at the recording studio,
so I started recording music
there.

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So I started recording music
there.
I was always traveling with --

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there.
I was always traveling with --
with the children's choir.

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I was always traveling with --
with the children's choir.
I started taking opera at my

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with the children's choir.
I started taking opera at my
school.

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I started taking opera at my
school.
And then in chicago, because of

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school.
And then in chicago, because of
my other's connection and chip,

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and then in chicago, because of
my other's connection and chip,
the guy I'm talking about who

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my other's connection and chip,
the guy I'm talking about who
helped me, we started recording

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the guy I'm talking about who
helped me, we started recording
songs, cover songs.

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Helped me, we started recording
songs, cover songs.
Oh, my god.

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Songs, cover songs.
Oh, my god.
I'm starting to remember my

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oh, my god.
I'm starting to remember my
life.

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I'm starting to remember my
life.
I started -- I had a band for

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life.
I started -- I had a band for
a while, and I was trying to

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I started -- I had a band for
a while, and I was trying to
find what music I wanted to do.

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A while, and I was trying to
find what music I wanted to do.
So, I started playing at, like,

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find what music I wanted to do.
So, I started playing at, like,
kind of dive clubs in a band

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so, I started playing at, like,
kind of dive clubs in a band
singing old '80s kind of music.

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Kind of dive clubs in a band
singing old '80s kind of music.
I -- I would do open mics

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singing old '80s kind of music.
I -- I would do open mics
singing.

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I -- I would do open mics
singing.
When I first moved to

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singing.
When I first moved to
los angeles, I thought that

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when I first moved to
los angeles, I thought that
that's what I was gonna do.

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Los angeles, I thought that
that's what I was gonna do.
I was gonna be a singer.

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That's what I was gonna do.
I was gonna be a singer.
I was coming there to get a

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I was gonna be a singer.
I was coming there to get a
record deal.

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I was coming there to get a
record deal.
So, I think I was 23 when I

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record deal.
So, I think I was 23 when I
decided that I needed to

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so, I think I was 23 when I
decided that I needed to
eventually -- you know, I was

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decided that I needed to
eventually -- you know, I was
getting guest spots in movies

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eventually -- you know, I was
getting guest spots in movies
and different things that would

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getting guest spots in movies
and different things that would
come through chicago, but if I'm

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and different things that would
come through chicago, but if I'm
gonna -- if I'm gonna really do

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come through chicago, but if I'm
gonna -- if I'm gonna really do
this, I need to move to la.

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Gonna -- if I'm gonna really do
this, I need to move to la.
I got a job at a restaurant for

361
00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:11,169
this, I need to move to la.
I got a job at a restaurant for
about eight months to save up

362
00:11:11,171 --> 00:11:12,837
I got a job at a restaurant for
about eight months to save up
enough money to move.

363
00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:14,072
About eight months to save up
enough money to move.
I'd always been -- I'd always

364
00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:14,606
enough money to move.
I'd always been -- I'd always
had jobs.

365
00:11:14,608 --> 00:11:15,774
I'd always been -- I'd always
had jobs.
I was always working for my

366
00:11:15,776 --> 00:11:17,108
had jobs.
I was always working for my
grandmother at her dry cleaners.

367
00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:18,877
I was always working for my
grandmother at her dry cleaners.
I was working at a copy store,

368
00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:19,744
grandmother at her dry cleaners.
I was working at a copy store,
pizza place.

369
00:11:19,746 --> 00:11:21,680
I was working at a copy store,
pizza place.
I was always putting money to

370
00:11:21,682 --> 00:11:22,447
pizza place.
I was always putting money to
the side.

371
00:11:22,449 --> 00:11:24,449
I was always putting money to
the side.
But I needed a certain amount.

372
00:11:24,451 --> 00:11:25,517
The side.
But I needed a certain amount.
I'm a planner.

373
00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:27,052
But I needed a certain amount.
I'm a planner.
I was like, "okay, I need this

374
00:11:27,054 --> 00:11:28,353
I'm a planner.
I was like, "okay, I need this
amount of money to move."

375
00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:31,322
I was like, "okay, I need this
amount of money to move."
so, a friend of mine's husband

376
00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:33,525
amount of money to move."
so, a friend of mine's husband
who was a mechanic found me this

377
00:11:33,527 --> 00:11:35,660
so, a friend of mine's husband
who was a mechanic found me this
car for about -- I think I paid

378
00:11:35,662 --> 00:11:39,297
who was a mechanic found me this
car for about -- I think I paid
about $700, put about $300 into

379
00:11:39,299 --> 00:11:40,098
car for about -- I think I paid
about $700, put about $300 into
it.

380
00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:41,166
About $700, put about $300 into
it.
I don't even know.

381
00:11:41,168 --> 00:11:42,567
It.
I don't even know.
This little hatchback car.

382
00:11:42,569 --> 00:11:43,768
I don't even know.
This little hatchback car.
It was -- had a kind of weird

383
00:11:43,770 --> 00:11:44,135
this little hatchback car.
It was -- had a kind of weird
smell.

384
00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:45,503
It was -- had a kind of weird
smell.
I always remember the smell of

385
00:11:45,505 --> 00:11:45,804
smell.
I always remember the smell of
it.

386
00:11:45,806 --> 00:11:48,373
I always remember the smell of
it.
But that's the car that I drove

387
00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:52,010
it.
But that's the car that I drove
to la from chicago in.

388
00:11:52,012 --> 00:11:54,646
But that's the car that I drove
to la from chicago in.
But remember I told you I'm a

389
00:11:54,648 --> 00:11:55,647
to la from chicago in.
But remember I told you I'm a
planner?

390
00:11:55,649 --> 00:11:57,482
But remember I told you I'm a
planner?
I didn't do what a lot of these

391
00:11:57,484 --> 00:11:59,217
planner?
I didn't do what a lot of these
people do, is just move to la

392
00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:01,052
I didn't do what a lot of these
people do, is just move to la
and figure it out when you can.

393
00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:03,354
People do, is just move to la
and figure it out when you can.
I flew to la once.

394
00:12:03,356 --> 00:12:06,257
And figure it out when you can.
I flew to la once.
I found a place to stay.

395
00:12:06,259 --> 00:12:09,661
I flew to la once.
I found a place to stay.
I found an agent first, then I

396
00:12:09,663 --> 00:12:12,464
I found a place to stay.
I found an agent first, then I
went back home, drove my car up.

397
00:12:12,466 --> 00:12:14,499
I found an agent first, then I
went back home, drove my car up.
And I had saved enough money to

398
00:12:14,501 --> 00:12:16,334
went back home, drove my car up.
And I had saved enough money to
live for about a year, so I

399
00:12:16,336 --> 00:12:18,136
and I had saved enough money to
live for about a year, so I
wouldn't have to get a job,

400
00:12:18,138 --> 00:12:21,239
live for about a year, so I
wouldn't have to get a job,
so I could just act.

401
00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:23,241
Wouldn't have to get a job,
so I could just act.
I had the help of chip, my

402
00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:25,677
so I could just act.
I had the help of chip, my
mother's old boss, and he helped

403
00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,946
I had the help of chip, my
mother's old boss, and he helped
me out a lot when I first went

404
00:12:27,948 --> 00:12:29,247
mother's old boss, and he helped
me out a lot when I first went
to los angeles.

405
00:12:29,249 --> 00:12:33,051
Me out a lot when I first went
to los angeles.
But -- so I had enough, you

406
00:12:33,053 --> 00:12:34,819
to los angeles.
But -- so I had enough, you
know, support and the money I

407
00:12:34,821 --> 00:12:36,721
but -- so I had enough, you
know, support and the money I
had saved so I would not have to

408
00:12:36,723 --> 00:12:37,255
know, support and the money I
had saved so I would not have to
work.

409
00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:39,524
Had saved so I would not have to
work.
And before my money ran out, I

410
00:12:39,526 --> 00:12:41,893
work.
And before my money ran out, I
got this one guest-starring role

411
00:12:41,895 --> 00:12:43,828
and before my money ran out, I
got this one guest-starring role
on this show called

412
00:12:43,830 --> 00:12:45,597
got this one guest-starring role
on this show called
"silk stockings."

413
00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:48,299
on this show called
"silk stockings."
then I got a test for a pilot,

414
00:12:48,301 --> 00:12:50,702
"silk stockings."
then I got a test for a pilot,
but I didn't get the lead.

415
00:12:50,704 --> 00:12:52,003
Then I got a test for a pilot,
but I didn't get the lead.
But they still put me in it

416
00:12:52,005 --> 00:12:53,304
but I didn't get the lead.
But they still put me in it
'cause they liked me a lot.

417
00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:55,173
But they still put me in it
'cause they liked me a lot.
And then I got "posse."

418
00:12:55,175 --> 00:12:57,408
'cause they liked me a lot.
And then I got "posse."
I wasn't supposed to have

419
00:12:57,410 --> 00:12:58,376
and then I got "posse."
I wasn't supposed to have
"posse."

420
00:12:58,378 --> 00:13:01,179
I wasn't supposed to have
"posse."
they had -- I auditioned for it

421
00:13:01,181 --> 00:13:04,916
"posse."
they had -- I auditioned for it
because blair underwood, he told

422
00:13:04,918 --> 00:13:06,851
they had -- I auditioned for it
because blair underwood, he told
mario when they were doing the

423
00:13:06,853 --> 00:13:08,553
because blair underwood, he told
mario when they were doing the
auditions that they should

424
00:13:08,555 --> 00:13:09,487
mario when they were doing the
auditions that they should
audition me.

425
00:13:09,489 --> 00:13:11,523
Auditions that they should
audition me.
Auditioned for it.

426
00:13:11,525 --> 00:13:13,191
Audition me.
Auditioned for it.
Didn't get it.

427
00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:15,627
Auditioned for it.
Didn't get it.
They were going -- I was like so

428
00:13:15,629 --> 00:13:16,361
didn't get it.
They were going -- I was like so
upset.

429
00:13:16,363 --> 00:13:18,296
They were going -- I was like so
upset.
I was like, "no one else looks

430
00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:20,198
upset.
I was like, "no one else looks
more indian and black than me!

431
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,534
I was like, "no one else looks
more indian and black than me!
Who could have this?"

432
00:13:22,536 --> 00:13:23,835
more indian and black than me!
Who could have this?"
and now I can say it 'cause I

433
00:13:23,837 --> 00:13:25,036
who could have this?"
and now I can say it 'cause I
don't care, they had hired

434
00:13:25,038 --> 00:13:26,704
and now I can say it 'cause I
don't care, they had hired
stacey dash.

435
00:13:26,706 --> 00:13:28,740
Don't care, they had hired
stacey dash.
So -- [ laughs ]

436
00:13:28,742 --> 00:13:31,776
stacey dash.
So -- [ laughs ]
I think they shot with her the

437
00:13:31,778 --> 00:13:35,213
so -- [ laughs ]
I think they shot with her the
first day.

438
00:13:35,215 --> 00:13:36,714
I think they shot with her the
first day.
They didn't want her there

439
00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:37,348
first day.
They didn't want her there
anymore.

440
00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:40,919
They didn't want her there
anymore.
I got a call on the weekend,

441
00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:42,954
anymore.
I got a call on the weekend,
and they were like, "do you want

442
00:13:42,956 --> 00:13:43,721
I got a call on the weekend,
and they were like, "do you want
the job?"

443
00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:46,090
and they were like, "do you want
the job?"
I got a call on a Saturday.

444
00:13:46,092 --> 00:13:49,060
The job?"
I got a call on a Saturday.
Monday, I had my first movie

445
00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:52,163
I got a call on a Saturday.
Monday, I had my first movie
and I was in arizona.

446
00:13:52,165 --> 00:13:53,398
Monday, I had my first movie
and I was in arizona.
I'm 20-- I was 24.

447
00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,266
And I was in arizona.
I'm 20-- I was 24.
I remember I turned 25 on the

448
00:13:55,268 --> 00:13:56,334
I'm 20-- I was 24.
I remember I turned 25 on the
set of "posse."

449
00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:57,936
I remember I turned 25 on the
set of "posse."
first of all, it was like a

450
00:13:57,938 --> 00:13:59,737
set of "posse."
first of all, it was like a
dream just to, like -- 'cause I

451
00:13:59,739 --> 00:14:00,605
first of all, it was like a
dream just to, like -- 'cause I
didn't get it normally.

452
00:14:00,607 --> 00:14:01,739
Dream just to, like -- 'cause I
didn't get it normally.
Like, it was just like, "oh, my

453
00:14:01,741 --> 00:14:02,006
didn't get it normally.
Like, it was just like, "oh, my
god.

454
00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:02,707
Like, it was just like, "oh, my
god.
I have this job."

455
00:14:02,709 --> 00:14:06,010
god.
I have this job."
so, I get there, and it -- to

456
00:14:06,012 --> 00:14:08,112
I have this job."
so, I get there, and it -- to
me, it seemed like the biggest

457
00:14:08,114 --> 00:14:10,114
so, I get there, and it -- to
me, it seemed like the biggest
movie I'd ever been on in my

458
00:14:10,116 --> 00:14:12,283
me, it seemed like the biggest
movie I'd ever been on in my
life, and, you know, you've got

459
00:14:12,285 --> 00:14:14,285
movie I'd ever been on in my
life, and, you know, you've got
big daddy kane and mario and

460
00:14:14,287 --> 00:14:16,120
life, and, you know, you've got
big daddy kane and mario and
stephen baldwin.

461
00:14:16,122 --> 00:14:18,156
Big daddy kane and mario and
stephen baldwin.
There was all sorts of people.

462
00:14:18,158 --> 00:14:19,357
Stephen baldwin.
There was all sorts of people.
Tiny lister.

463
00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:22,393
There was all sorts of people.
Tiny lister.
Like, it was just...An amazing

464
00:14:22,395 --> 00:14:24,362
tiny lister.
Like, it was just...An amazing
group of people.

465
00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:26,664
Like, it was just...An amazing
group of people.
And I just remember just being

466
00:14:26,666 --> 00:14:28,833
group of people.
And I just remember just being
like this family atmosphere.

467
00:14:28,835 --> 00:14:29,734
And I just remember just being
like this family atmosphere.
I mean, every night -- they

468
00:14:29,736 --> 00:14:30,702
like this family atmosphere.
I mean, every night -- they
don't do this anymore because

469
00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:31,703
I mean, every night -- they
don't do this anymore because
everything is digital -- every

470
00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:33,705
don't do this anymore because
everything is digital -- every
night, mario would have all the

471
00:14:33,707 --> 00:14:35,373
everything is digital -- every
night, mario would have all the
actors get together after

472
00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:37,141
night, mario would have all the
actors get together after
shooting and we'd watch the

473
00:14:37,143 --> 00:14:37,876
actors get together after
shooting and we'd watch the
dailies.

474
00:14:37,878 --> 00:14:39,110
Shooting and we'd watch the
dailies.
Like, as a group.

475
00:14:39,112 --> 00:14:40,378
Dailies.
Like, as a group.
It was, like, fun.

476
00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:42,013
Like, as a group.
It was, like, fun.
Every -- we all hung out.

477
00:14:42,015 --> 00:14:43,348
It was, like, fun.
Every -- we all hung out.
We were all friends.

478
00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:45,183
Every -- we all hung out.
We were all friends.
Nobody was ever trying to hit on

479
00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:45,583
we were all friends.
Nobody was ever trying to hit on
me.

480
00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:47,385
Nobody was ever trying to hit on
me.
It was like I became everyone's

481
00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:48,319
me.
It was like I became everyone's
little sister.

482
00:14:48,321 --> 00:14:50,188
It was like I became everyone's
little sister.
I just -- I do remember the one

483
00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:52,156
little sister.
I just -- I do remember the one
time -- we had this explosion in

484
00:14:52,158 --> 00:14:54,025
I just -- I do remember the one
time -- we had this explosion in
"posse," and I'm running out of

485
00:14:54,027 --> 00:14:55,760
time -- we had this explosion in
"posse," and I'm running out of
the thing, and there's a big

486
00:14:55,762 --> 00:14:57,428
"posse," and I'm running out of
the thing, and there's a big
explosion, and that was the

487
00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:58,997
the thing, and there's a big
explosion, and that was the
first time I went [gasps]

488
00:14:58,999 --> 00:15:01,399
explosion, and that was the
first time I went [gasps]
"I'm in a real movie."

489
00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:05,136
first time I went [gasps]
"I'm in a real movie."
like, once there's fire [laughs]

490
00:15:05,138 --> 00:15:06,871
"I'm in a real movie."
like, once there's fire [laughs]
and gunfire and explosions,

491
00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,640
like, once there's fire [laughs]
and gunfire and explosions,
you're like, "I've made it."

492
00:15:08,642 --> 00:15:10,275
and gunfire and explosions,
you're like, "I've made it."
[ chuckles ]

493
00:15:10,277 --> 00:15:13,711
you're like, "I've made it."
[ chuckles ]
I think my next big project that

494
00:15:13,713 --> 00:15:16,714
[ chuckles ]
I think my next big project that
felt big to me was I did...

495
00:15:16,716 --> 00:15:18,416
I think my next big project that
felt big to me was I did...
This movie called

496
00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:21,286
felt big to me was I did...
This movie called
"I spy returns" with bill cosby,

497
00:15:21,288 --> 00:15:23,221
this movie called
"I spy returns" with bill cosby,
and I played his daughter, and

498
00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:25,857
"I spy returns" with bill cosby,
and I played his daughter, and
we shot it in...

499
00:15:25,859 --> 00:15:28,293
And I played his daughter, and
we shot it in...
We shot it in europe somewhere,

500
00:15:28,295 --> 00:15:30,628
we shot it in...
We shot it in europe somewhere,
which was my first time out of

501
00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:32,530
we shot it in europe somewhere,
which was my first time out of
the country, too, so...

502
00:15:32,532 --> 00:15:36,401
Which was my first time out of
the country, too, so...
And then after that, I got

503
00:15:36,403 --> 00:15:39,270
the country, too, so...
And then after that, I got
"low down dirty shame."

504
00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:40,872
and then after that, I got
"low down dirty shame."
I still remember those

505
00:15:40,874 --> 00:15:41,773
"low down dirty shame."
I still remember those
auditions.

506
00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:43,875
I still remember those
auditions.
And I remember testing with

507
00:15:43,877 --> 00:15:46,277
auditions.
And I remember testing with
jada, and I kind of knew once it

508
00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:48,680
and I remember testing with
jada, and I kind of knew once it
was me and jada testing together

509
00:15:48,682 --> 00:15:51,416
jada, and I kind of knew once it
was me and jada testing together
I was like, "I think...I think

510
00:15:51,418 --> 00:15:53,918
was me and jada testing together
I was like, "I think...I think
I'm getting close to this."

511
00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,720
I was like, "I think...I think
I'm getting close to this."
and I knew keenan, and jada knew

512
00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:57,422
I'm getting close to this."
and I knew keenan, and jada knew
ke-- well, we all -- you know,

513
00:15:57,424 --> 00:15:58,423
and I knew keenan, and jada knew
ke-- well, we all -- you know,
it's black hollywood.

514
00:15:58,425 --> 00:15:59,490
Ke-- well, we all -- you know,
it's black hollywood.
We all know each other.

515
00:15:59,492 --> 00:16:00,858
It's black hollywood.
We all know each other.
But, you know, at the end of the

516
00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:02,193
we all know each other.
But, you know, at the end of the
day, that doesn't really make a

517
00:16:02,195 --> 00:16:02,760
but, you know, at the end of the
day, that doesn't really make a
difference.

518
00:16:02,762 --> 00:16:04,028
Day, that doesn't really make a
difference.
Either you're right or you're

519
00:16:04,030 --> 00:16:04,362
difference.
Either you're right or you're
not.

520
00:16:04,364 --> 00:16:05,730
Either you're right or you're
not.
I look back at those

521
00:16:05,732 --> 00:16:07,632
not.
I look back at those
experiences, they were just...

522
00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:09,600
I look back at those
experiences, they were just...
It still -- it feels like

523
00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:12,403
experiences, they were just...
It still -- it feels like
a dream, it's been so long ago.

524
00:16:12,405 --> 00:16:15,440
It still -- it feels like
a dream, it's been so long ago.
But it was -- it was another,

525
00:16:15,442 --> 00:16:17,875
a dream, it's been so long ago.
But it was -- it was another,
like, truly fun family

526
00:16:17,877 --> 00:16:19,677
but it was -- it was another,
like, truly fun family
environment.

527
00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:22,480
Like, truly fun family
environment.
You know, it's -- it's...

528
00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:24,482
Environment.
You know, it's -- it's...
I haven't been in a lot of shows

529
00:16:24,484 --> 00:16:26,451
you know, it's -- it's...
I haven't been in a lot of shows
where it's just all black folks.

530
00:16:26,453 --> 00:16:28,920
I haven't been in a lot of shows
where it's just all black folks.
And there's something about that

531
00:16:28,922 --> 00:16:31,389
where it's just all black folks.
And there's something about that
experience that just feels very,

532
00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:33,891
and there's something about that
experience that just feels very,
you know, comfortable and...

533
00:16:33,893 --> 00:16:35,426
Experience that just feels very,
you know, comfortable and...
And family and we're all kind of

534
00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:36,761
you know, comfortable and...
And family and we're all kind of
looking out for each other.

535
00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:38,963
And family and we're all kind of
looking out for each other.
Those are -- you know, I'll

536
00:16:38,965 --> 00:16:40,698
looking out for each other.
Those are -- you know, I'll
always have good memories about

537
00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:41,899
those are -- you know, I'll
always have good memories about
both of those films.

538
00:16:41,901 --> 00:16:43,201
Always have good memories about
both of those films.
Thinking about working with

539
00:16:43,203 --> 00:16:44,669
both of those films.
Thinking about working with
keenan, and even thinking about

540
00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:46,070
thinking about working with
keenan, and even thinking about
working with jada, I remember

541
00:16:46,072 --> 00:16:47,405
keenan, and even thinking about
working with jada, I remember
coming to work -- 'cause, you

542
00:16:47,407 --> 00:16:48,740
working with jada, I remember
coming to work -- 'cause, you
know, both of them, they were

543
00:16:48,742 --> 00:16:50,208
coming to work -- 'cause, you
know, both of them, they were
kind of -- had made it by then.

544
00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:51,609
Know, both of them, they were
kind of -- had made it by then.
I had done "posse," but, you

545
00:16:51,611 --> 00:16:52,110
kind of -- had made it by then.
I had done "posse," but, you
know...

546
00:16:52,112 --> 00:16:54,278
I had done "posse," but, you
know...
I remember being teased so

547
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,881
know...
I remember being teased so
relentlessly about my cheap car,

548
00:16:56,883 --> 00:16:58,549
I remember being teased so
relentlessly about my cheap car,
'cause I still had that cheap

549
00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,051
relentlessly about my cheap car,
'cause I still had that cheap
car we were talking about.

550
00:17:00,053 --> 00:17:01,686
'cause I still had that cheap
car we were talking about.
I refused to buy another one

551
00:17:01,688 --> 00:17:03,454
car we were talking about.
I refused to buy another one
until I felt like I wouldn't be

552
00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:04,956
I refused to buy another one
until I felt like I wouldn't be
kicked out on the streets.

553
00:17:04,958 --> 00:17:07,025
Until I felt like I wouldn't be
kicked out on the streets.
So, thinking about working with

554
00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:09,060
kicked out on the streets.
So, thinking about working with
them, that tells you that these

555
00:17:09,062 --> 00:17:10,728
so, thinking about working with
them, that tells you that these
are your friends, right?

556
00:17:10,730 --> 00:17:12,330
Them, that tells you that these
are your friends, right?
I remember arguing with keenan

557
00:17:12,332 --> 00:17:13,531
are your friends, right?
I remember arguing with keenan
about so many things.

558
00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:15,033
I remember arguing with keenan
about so many things.
Just like now, how I have my

559
00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:16,667
about so many things.
Just like now, how I have my
hair behind my ear, I wanted to

560
00:17:16,669 --> 00:17:18,102
just like now, how I have my
hair behind my ear, I wanted to
put my hair behind my ear.

561
00:17:18,104 --> 00:17:21,139
Hair behind my ear, I wanted to
put my hair behind my ear.
He refused to let me put my hair

562
00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:21,973
put my hair behind my ear.
He refused to let me put my hair
behind my ear.

563
00:17:21,975 --> 00:17:23,441
He refused to let me put my hair
behind my ear.
He said it didn't look good.

564
00:17:23,443 --> 00:17:24,742
Behind my ear.
He said it didn't look good.
My ear was sticking out.

565
00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:25,810
He said it didn't look good.
My ear was sticking out.
[ laughs ]

566
00:17:25,812 --> 00:17:27,345
my ear was sticking out.
[ laughs ]
I know these are all silly

567
00:17:27,347 --> 00:17:29,013
[ laughs ]
I know these are all silly
things, but this is the stuff

568
00:17:29,015 --> 00:17:32,116
I know these are all silly
things, but this is the stuff
that you're arguing about with

569
00:17:32,118 --> 00:17:33,618
things, but this is the stuff
that you're arguing about with
people who are your friends.

570
00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:35,319
That you're arguing about with
people who are your friends.
If it was probably some director

571
00:17:35,321 --> 00:17:36,788
people who are your friends.
If it was probably some director
I didn't know, I'd be like,

572
00:17:36,790 --> 00:17:38,322
if it was probably some director
I didn't know, I'd be like,
"okay, I'm gonna put my hair

573
00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:39,223
I didn't know, I'd be like,
"okay, I'm gonna put my hair
behind my ear."

574
00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:41,659
"okay, I'm gonna put my hair
behind my ear."
I think people really sleep on

575
00:17:41,661 --> 00:17:43,728
behind my ear."
I think people really sleep on
who keenan was back then.

576
00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,129
I think people really sleep on
who keenan was back then.
I mean, of course we under-- you

577
00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:48,232
who keenan was back then.
I mean, of course we under-- you
know, we remember the tv show,

578
00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:50,368
I mean, of course we under-- you
know, we remember the tv show,
but then he starts doing...

579
00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:51,769
Know, we remember the tv show,
but then he starts doing...
He's doing films.

580
00:17:51,771 --> 00:17:53,271
But then he starts doing...
He's doing films.
And that's -- I think that I

581
00:17:53,273 --> 00:17:54,839
he's doing films.
And that's -- I think that I
have more of a respect for it

582
00:17:54,841 --> 00:17:56,507
and that's -- I think that I
have more of a respect for it
now now that I'm a director and

583
00:17:56,509 --> 00:18:00,044
have more of a respect for it
now now that I'm a director and
I realize what a big feat that

584
00:18:00,046 --> 00:18:03,815
now now that I'm a director and
I realize what a big feat that
is to get a feature made of that

585
00:18:03,817 --> 00:18:05,917
I realize what a big feat that
is to get a feature made of that
magnitude at the time and with

586
00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:07,919
is to get a feature made of that
magnitude at the time and with
people in it and it being an

587
00:18:07,921 --> 00:18:09,487
magnitude at the time and with
people in it and it being an
action kind of movie.

588
00:18:09,489 --> 00:18:11,456
People in it and it being an
action kind of movie.
I understand how hard that was

589
00:18:11,458 --> 00:18:12,190
action kind of movie.
I understand how hard that was
for him.

590
00:18:12,192 --> 00:18:14,092
I understand how hard that was
for him.
And looking back now, I just

591
00:18:14,094 --> 00:18:16,227
for him.
And looking back now, I just
respect the process so much more

592
00:18:16,229 --> 00:18:17,762
and looking back now, I just
respect the process so much more
of, you know, what we had to go

593
00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:18,296
respect the process so much more
of, you know, what we had to go
through.

594
00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:20,031
Of, you know, what we had to go
through.
But he still kept it light.

595
00:18:20,033 --> 00:18:21,833
Through.
But he still kept it light.
He still was -- you know, we

596
00:18:21,835 --> 00:18:23,768
but he still kept it light.
He still was -- you know, we
were still coming up with lines

597
00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:24,635
he still was -- you know, we
were still coming up with lines
on the fly.

598
00:18:24,637 --> 00:18:26,037
Were still coming up with lines
on the fly.
So, I don't know if that tells

599
00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:28,239
on the fly.
So, I don't know if that tells
you about what the fun we had on

600
00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:30,475
so, I don't know if that tells
you about what the fun we had on
that set, but I would say my two

601
00:18:30,477 --> 00:18:32,243
you about what the fun we had on
that set, but I would say my two
experiences -- you know, my

602
00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:34,278
that set, but I would say my two
experiences -- you know, my
first experiences with big films

603
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:34,712
experiences -- you know, my
first experiences with big films
were -- were fun.

604
00:18:39,451 --> 00:18:44,622
>> richardson: When I think
about my friendships with the
actresses back then, it was both

605
00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:46,390
about my friendships with the
actresses back then, it was both
I would say friendly and

606
00:18:46,392 --> 00:18:48,326
actresses back then, it was both
I would say friendly and
competitive, because it was

607
00:18:48,328 --> 00:18:50,595
I would say friendly and
competitive, because it was
such a small -- there was such a

608
00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:52,597
competitive, because it was
such a small -- there was such a
small amount of jobs that we

609
00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,232
such a small -- there was such a
small amount of jobs that we
were all fighting for.

610
00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:57,001
Small amount of jobs that we
were all fighting for.
I think that what saved me is I

611
00:18:57,003 --> 00:18:59,737
were all fighting for.
I think that what saved me is I
didn't hang out with everybody.

612
00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:02,240
I think that what saved me is I
didn't hang out with everybody.
Most of my good friends...

613
00:19:02,242 --> 00:19:03,774
Didn't hang out with everybody.
Most of my good friends...
Besides, I would say, at the

614
00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:06,844
most of my good friends...
Besides, I would say, at the
time, regina and I --

615
00:19:06,846 --> 00:19:10,715
besides, I would say, at the
time, regina and I --
regina king and I hung a bit.

616
00:19:10,717 --> 00:19:15,753
Time, regina and I --
regina king and I hung a bit.
And...And I would go play --

617
00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:17,421
regina king and I hung a bit.
And...And I would go play --
I would go play spades...

618
00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:19,590
And...And I would go play --
I would go play spades...
[chuckles] at tichina's house.

619
00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:21,659
I would go play spades...
[chuckles] at tichina's house.
Tichina, tisha, and then jada

620
00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,561
[chuckles] at tichina's house.
Tichina, tisha, and then jada
sometimes -- we did have a

621
00:19:23,563 --> 00:19:25,496
tichina, tisha, and then jada
sometimes -- we did have a
little card thing going on.

622
00:19:25,498 --> 00:19:27,465
Sometimes -- we did have a
little card thing going on.
Spades was all the rage back

623
00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:28,065
little card thing going on.
Spades was all the rage back
then.

624
00:19:28,067 --> 00:19:30,134
Spades was all the rage back
then.
Besides that, most of my really

625
00:19:30,136 --> 00:19:32,103
then.
Besides that, most of my really
close, close friends were not

626
00:19:32,105 --> 00:19:33,371
besides that, most of my really
close, close friends were not
actors.

627
00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:36,941
Close, close friends were not
actors.
And I think that it's what saved

628
00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:42,446
actors.
And I think that it's what saved
me from...It having it in my

629
00:19:42,448 --> 00:19:44,715
and I think that it's what saved
me from...It having it in my
face so much if somebody had

630
00:19:44,717 --> 00:19:47,285
me from...It having it in my
face so much if somebody had
more success, and I think it was

631
00:19:47,287 --> 00:19:49,587
face so much if somebody had
more success, and I think it was
my way of protecting myself

632
00:19:49,589 --> 00:19:52,957
more success, and I think it was
my way of protecting myself
and kind of keeping my chicago

633
00:19:52,959 --> 00:19:54,959
my way of protecting myself
and kind of keeping my chicago
roots and trying to kind of keep

634
00:19:54,961 --> 00:19:55,626
and kind of keeping my chicago
roots and trying to kind of keep
it simple.

635
00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:57,261
Roots and trying to kind of keep
it simple.
But, you know, most of my close

636
00:19:57,263 --> 00:19:58,663
it simple.
But, you know, most of my close
friends -- maybe they were

637
00:19:58,665 --> 00:20:00,131
but, you know, most of my close
friends -- maybe they were
makeup artists, writers, but

638
00:20:00,133 --> 00:20:02,533
friends -- maybe they were
makeup artists, writers, but
they weren't necessarily in

639
00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:04,235
makeup artists, writers, but
they weren't necessarily in
front of the camera.

640
00:20:04,237 --> 00:20:05,536
They weren't necessarily in
front of the camera.
There were so many roles I was

641
00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:06,637
front of the camera.
There were so many roles I was
up for that I didn't get.

642
00:20:06,639 --> 00:20:08,873
There were so many roles I was
up for that I didn't get.
[ laughs ]

643
00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:10,908
up for that I didn't get.
[ laughs ]
I was trying to think, "what is

644
00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:12,743
[ laughs ]
I was trying to think, "what is
the one role that you didn't

645
00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:13,311
I was trying to think, "what is
the one role that you didn't
get?"

646
00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:15,613
the one role that you didn't
get?"
I remember...I think it was --

647
00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:16,347
get?"
I remember...I think it was --
right.

648
00:20:16,349 --> 00:20:17,982
I remember...I think it was --
right.
It was "a thin line between love

649
00:20:17,984 --> 00:20:18,649
right.
It was "a thin line between love
and hate."

650
00:20:18,651 --> 00:20:19,984
it was "a thin line between love
and hate."
so, it wasn't quite -- you know,

651
00:20:19,986 --> 00:20:21,185
and hate."
so, it wasn't quite -- you know,
regina already had, like, you

652
00:20:21,187 --> 00:20:23,254
so, it wasn't quite -- you know,
regina already had, like, you
know, the homegirl friend.

653
00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:25,122
Regina already had, like, you
know, the homegirl friend.
And I wasn't lynn whitfield.

654
00:20:25,124 --> 00:20:26,691
Know, the homegirl friend.
And I wasn't lynn whitfield.
I wasn't quite there yet.

655
00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:28,593
And I wasn't lynn whitfield.
I wasn't quite there yet.
But that role seemed really

656
00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:29,627
I wasn't quite there yet.
But that role seemed really
interesting.

657
00:20:29,629 --> 00:20:31,696
But that role seemed really
interesting.
"django," I remember -- you

658
00:20:31,698 --> 00:20:33,898
interesting.
"django," I remember -- you
know, there were just so many

659
00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,766
"django," I remember -- you
know, there were just so many
roles that I didn't get.

660
00:20:35,768 --> 00:20:39,103
Know, there were just so many
roles that I didn't get.
But I swear I look back on those

661
00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:41,105
roles that I didn't get.
But I swear I look back on those
what seemed like missed

662
00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:44,208
but I swear I look back on those
what seemed like missed
opportunities, and if I had

663
00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:46,077
what seemed like missed
opportunities, and if I had
gotten all those jobs that I

664
00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:48,045
opportunities, and if I had
gotten all those jobs that I
thought that I was supposed to

665
00:20:48,047 --> 00:20:50,014
gotten all those jobs that I
thought that I was supposed to
have and I was so much -- "how

666
00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:51,649
thought that I was supposed to
have and I was so much -- "how
could they choose them?"

667
00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:52,850
have and I was so much -- "how
could they choose them?"
I don't think I'd be directing

668
00:20:52,852 --> 00:20:53,050
could they choose them?"
I don't think I'd be directing
now.

669
00:20:58,123 --> 00:21:04,629
>> richardson: So, I think that
my transition into becoming a
director happened really by

670
00:21:04,631 --> 00:21:05,429
my transition into becoming a
director happened really by
chance.

671
00:21:05,431 --> 00:21:08,666
Director happened really by
chance.
I was doing ava duvernay's first

672
00:21:08,668 --> 00:21:10,234
chance.
I was doing ava duvernay's first
feature film.

673
00:21:10,236 --> 00:21:11,769
I was doing ava duvernay's first
feature film.
And during that process, I was

674
00:21:11,771 --> 00:21:13,237
feature film.
And during that process, I was
probably talking too much and

675
00:21:13,239 --> 00:21:14,772
and during that process, I was
probably talking too much and
giving my little two cents in,

676
00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:17,441
probably talking too much and
giving my little two cents in,
you know, thinking I'm helping.

677
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:19,710
Giving my little two cents in,
you know, thinking I'm helping.
But somewhere in that process,

678
00:21:19,712 --> 00:21:22,079
you know, thinking I'm helping.
But somewhere in that process,
ava said to me, "I think you're

679
00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:24,282
but somewhere in that process,
ava said to me, "I think you're
a director and you don't know

680
00:21:24,284 --> 00:21:24,882
ava said to me, "I think you're
a director and you don't know
it."

681
00:21:24,884 --> 00:21:27,018
a director and you don't know
it."
just with her, I don't know,

682
00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:29,453
it."
just with her, I don't know,
putting that out into, you know,

683
00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:31,722
just with her, I don't know,
putting that out into, you know,
the world, it got me thinking.

684
00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:33,791
Putting that out into, you know,
the world, it got me thinking.
And I was like, "oh, I do think

685
00:21:33,793 --> 00:21:35,726
the world, it got me thinking.
And I was like, "oh, I do think
like that and she's doing it,

686
00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:37,228
and I was like, "oh, I do think
like that and she's doing it,
maybe I should do it.

687
00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:38,763
Like that and she's doing it,
maybe I should do it.
Let me see."

688
00:21:38,765 --> 00:21:40,831
maybe I should do it.
Let me see."
so, ava gave me a bunch of books

689
00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:42,767
let me see."
so, ava gave me a bunch of books
and these tapes, and I started

690
00:21:42,769 --> 00:21:43,834
so, ava gave me a bunch of books
and these tapes, and I started
reading stuff.

691
00:21:43,836 --> 00:21:45,569
And these tapes, and I started
reading stuff.
I called a director that I

692
00:21:45,571 --> 00:21:48,105
reading stuff.
I called a director that I
loved, eric laneuville, who has

693
00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:50,574
I called a director that I
loved, eric laneuville, who has
directed hundreds and hundreds

694
00:21:50,576 --> 00:21:51,976
loved, eric laneuville, who has
directed hundreds and hundreds
of hours of tv.

695
00:21:51,978 --> 00:21:54,278
Directed hundreds and hundreds
of hours of tv.
So, I asked eric, I said, "eric,

696
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,314
of hours of tv.
So, I asked eric, I said, "eric,
I want to shadow you, because I

697
00:21:56,316 --> 00:21:58,382
so, I asked eric, I said, "eric,
I want to shadow you, because I
want to ask -- I want to ask the

698
00:21:58,384 --> 00:22:00,351
I want to shadow you, because I
want to ask -- I want to ask the
producers on 'eureka' if I can

699
00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:01,986
want to ask -- I want to ask the
producers on 'eureka' if I can
direct, and I want to be

700
00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:03,354
producers on 'eureka' if I can
direct, and I want to be
prepared for that."

701
00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:05,089
direct, and I want to be
prepared for that."
and he said, "absolutely."

702
00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:07,658
prepared for that."
and he said, "absolutely."
and so I -- I went on like two

703
00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,127
and he said, "absolutely."
and so I -- I went on like two
or three different shows, and

704
00:22:10,129 --> 00:22:12,029
and so I -- I went on like two
or three different shows, and
when I say shadow a director,

705
00:22:12,031 --> 00:22:13,698
or three different shows, and
when I say shadow a director,
that means you follow the

706
00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,499
when I say shadow a director,
that means you follow the
director from preproduction

707
00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:17,101
that means you follow the
director from preproduction
through post production.

708
00:22:17,103 --> 00:22:18,803
Director from preproduction
through post production.
And I'm saying this for these

709
00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:20,671
through post production.
And I'm saying this for these
young people who want to direct.

710
00:22:20,673 --> 00:22:22,506
And I'm saying this for these
young people who want to direct.
That doesn't mean you come visit

711
00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:24,075
young people who want to direct.
That doesn't mean you come visit
me on the set for the day.

712
00:22:24,077 --> 00:22:25,976
That doesn't mean you come visit
me on the set for the day.
That means you're there to

713
00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:26,644
me on the set for the day.
That means you're there to
learn.

714
00:22:26,646 --> 00:22:28,746
That means you're there to
learn.
I would get there -- I was at

715
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:30,881
learn.
I would get there -- I was at
ever single meeting he did for

716
00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:32,950
I would get there -- I was at
ever single meeting he did for
his -- I mean, every single

717
00:22:32,952 --> 00:22:34,885
ever single meeting he did for
his -- I mean, every single
meeting through the whole

718
00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:36,821
his -- I mean, every single
meeting through the whole
meeting of preproduction.

719
00:22:36,823 --> 00:22:38,789
Meeting through the whole
meeting of preproduction.
When we got to the set, if eric

720
00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:40,825
meeting of preproduction.
When we got to the set, if eric
got the set an hour early, I was

721
00:22:40,827 --> 00:22:42,493
when we got to the set, if eric
got the set an hour early, I was
on the set an hour early.

722
00:22:42,495 --> 00:22:43,694
Got the set an hour early, I was
on the set an hour early.
I didn't have a trailer.

723
00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:45,196
On the set an hour early.
I didn't have a trailer.
At lunch, you need to go take a

724
00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:46,664
I didn't have a trailer.
At lunch, you need to go take a
rest, I sat out there like you

725
00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:47,698
at lunch, you need to go take a
rest, I sat out there like you
would with the crew.

726
00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,067
Rest, I sat out there like you
would with the crew.
I was like, "I'm here to learn."

727
00:22:50,069 --> 00:22:51,836
would with the crew.
I was like, "I'm here to learn."
when people say that we don't

728
00:22:51,838 --> 00:22:53,637
I was like, "I'm here to learn."
when people say that we don't
help each other, that's a lie.

729
00:22:53,639 --> 00:22:55,773
When people say that we don't
help each other, that's a lie.
So, sort of the list of the

730
00:22:55,775 --> 00:22:57,942
help each other, that's a lie.
So, sort of the list of the
shows that I've directed in

731
00:22:57,944 --> 00:22:59,543
so, sort of the list of the
shows that I've directed in
these last...I think it's been,

732
00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:01,178
shows that I've directed in
these last...I think it's been,
I don't know, five, six years --

733
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:02,546
these last...I think it's been,
I don't know, five, six years --
it's gone by very quickly.

734
00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:03,914
I don't know, five, six years --
it's gone by very quickly.
Obviously I'm a bad mother

735
00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:05,483
it's gone by very quickly.
Obviously I'm a bad mother
'cause I haven't been home and

736
00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:07,017
obviously I'm a bad mother
'cause I haven't been home and
I'm gonna name a lot of shows.

737
00:23:07,019 --> 00:23:08,486
'cause I haven't been home and
I'm gonna name a lot of shows.
But [chuckles] started with

738
00:23:08,488 --> 00:23:10,221
I'm gonna name a lot of shows.
But [chuckles] started with
"queen sugar," which really, you

739
00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:11,756
but [chuckles] started with
"queen sugar," which really, you
know, kind of started it off

740
00:23:11,758 --> 00:23:13,290
"queen sugar," which really, you
know, kind of started it off
after many years after I had

741
00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:14,158
know, kind of started it off
after many years after I had
done "eureka."

742
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,459
after many years after I had
done "eureka."
but then it went to

743
00:23:15,461 --> 00:23:16,627
done "eureka."
but then it went to
"shadowhunters."

744
00:23:16,629 --> 00:23:18,362
but then it went to
"shadowhunters."
it went to "the magicians."

745
00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:20,765
"shadowhunters."
it went to "the magicians."
then it went to "underground,"

746
00:23:20,767 --> 00:23:22,800
it went to "the magicians."
then it went to "underground,"
and I did "luke cage" and

747
00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:24,802
then it went to "underground,"
and I did "luke cage" and
"the punisher," and then

748
00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:27,071
and I did "luke cage" and
"the punisher," and then
"sabrina."

749
00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:28,839
"the punisher," and then
"sabrina."
lately, the big ones have been,

750
00:23:28,841 --> 00:23:30,541
"sabrina."
lately, the big ones have been,
you know, "the wheel of time."

751
00:23:30,543 --> 00:23:34,812
lately, the big ones have been,
you know, "the wheel of time."
I just did the season finale

752
00:23:34,814 --> 00:23:37,014
you know, "the wheel of time."
I just did the season finale
for the lakers show that's

753
00:23:37,016 --> 00:23:38,716
I just did the season finale
for the lakers show that's
gonna be on hbo.

754
00:23:38,718 --> 00:23:40,584
For the lakers show that's
gonna be on hbo.
And I am also the executive

755
00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:42,520
gonna be on hbo.
And I am also the executive
producer of "the gilded age"

756
00:23:42,522 --> 00:23:44,655
and I am also the executive
producer of "the gilded age"
and directed almost half of the

757
00:23:44,657 --> 00:23:46,290
producer of "the gilded age"
and directed almost half of the
episodes of the season.

758
00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:49,160
And directed almost half of the
episodes of the season.
I think "scandal"...I was on a

759
00:23:49,162 --> 00:23:53,130
episodes of the season.
I think "scandal"...I was on a
tv show, and I got that gig

760
00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:54,832
I think "scandal"...I was on a
tv show, and I got that gig
and the show wasn't gonna let me

761
00:23:54,834 --> 00:23:55,232
tv show, and I got that gig
and the show wasn't gonna let me
out.

762
00:23:55,234 --> 00:23:57,968
And the show wasn't gonna let me
out.
I think I sent a letter to the

763
00:23:57,970 --> 00:24:00,604
out.
I think I sent a letter to the
head of the studio, and I was

764
00:24:00,606 --> 00:24:02,339
I think I sent a letter to the
head of the studio, and I was
like, "this is life changing,

765
00:24:02,341 --> 00:24:04,141
head of the studio, and I was
like, "this is life changing,
and you cannot say no to this.

766
00:24:04,143 --> 00:24:05,810
Like, "this is life changing,
and you cannot say no to this.
You don't have to pay me for

767
00:24:05,812 --> 00:24:07,611
and you cannot say no to this.
You don't have to pay me for
those episodes, but you've got

768
00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:08,846
you don't have to pay me for
those episodes, but you've got
to let me do this."

769
00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:10,014
those episodes, but you've got
to let me do this."
and I think if I had just

770
00:24:10,016 --> 00:24:11,148
to let me do this."
and I think if I had just
said -- you know how when you're

771
00:24:11,150 --> 00:24:12,216
and I think if I had just
said -- you know how when you're
younger sometimes you're like,

772
00:24:12,218 --> 00:24:12,583
said -- you know how when you're
younger sometimes you're like,
"okay"?

773
00:24:12,585 --> 00:24:15,152
Younger sometimes you're like,
"okay"?
I was like, "no, I'm not -- this

774
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:16,854
"okay"?
I was like, "no, I'm not -- this
is my new life, and this is

775
00:24:16,856 --> 00:24:18,022
I was like, "no, I'm not -- this
is my new life, and this is
going to happen."

776
00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:19,356
is my new life, and this is
going to happen."
that's another one of those.

777
00:24:19,358 --> 00:24:20,658
Going to happen."
that's another one of those.
I think "scandal" was a big

778
00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:21,091
that's another one of those.
I think "scandal" was a big
deal.

779
00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:22,193
I think "scandal" was a big
deal.
I did "american gods."

780
00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:23,360
deal.
I did "american gods."
that changed everything.

781
00:24:23,362 --> 00:24:25,396
I did "american gods."
that changed everything.
That's the kind of show that got

782
00:24:25,398 --> 00:24:27,264
that changed everything.
That's the kind of show that got
me some of these bigger shows

783
00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:29,099
that's the kind of show that got
me some of these bigger shows
like "wheel of time" because

784
00:24:29,101 --> 00:24:31,569
me some of these bigger shows
like "wheel of time" because
it showed that I could visual

785
00:24:31,571 --> 00:24:33,838
like "wheel of time" because
it showed that I could visual
effects and fantasy shows.

786
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,040
It showed that I could visual
effects and fantasy shows.
And I've really -- really jumped

787
00:24:36,042 --> 00:24:38,209
effects and fantasy shows.
And I've really -- really jumped
from genre to genre, because for

788
00:24:38,211 --> 00:24:40,411
and I've really -- really jumped
from genre to genre, because for
me, I didn't want -- 'cause it's

789
00:24:40,413 --> 00:24:42,413
from genre to genre, because for
me, I didn't want -- 'cause it's
what they do -- "but does she

790
00:24:42,415 --> 00:24:43,881
me, I didn't want -- 'cause it's
what they do -- "but does she
know how to do this?

791
00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:45,716
What they do -- "but does she
know how to do this?
Well, has she done action?

792
00:24:45,718 --> 00:24:46,884
Know how to do this?
Well, has she done action?
Well, does she know how to do

793
00:24:46,886 --> 00:24:47,718
well, has she done action?
Well, does she know how to do
comedy?"

794
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,787
well, does she know how to do
comedy?"
and I was like, "yep, I'm gonna

795
00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:50,554
comedy?"
and I was like, "yep, I'm gonna
do that.

796
00:24:50,556 --> 00:24:51,322
And I was like, "yep, I'm gonna
do that.
Oh. Oh, yeah."

797
00:24:51,324 --> 00:24:53,390
do that.
Oh. Oh, yeah."
I was just taking every job I

798
00:24:53,392 --> 00:24:55,326
oh. Oh, yeah."
I was just taking every job I
could to learn every way of

799
00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:57,328
I was just taking every job I
could to learn every way of
shooting, every -- you know,

800
00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:58,596
could to learn every way of
shooting, every -- you know,
'cause there's all -- oh, we

801
00:24:58,598 --> 00:24:59,463
shooting, every -- you know,
'cause there's all -- oh, we
could do handheld.

802
00:24:59,465 --> 00:25:00,664
'cause there's all -- oh, we
could do handheld.
Maybe we're shooting this show

803
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:01,165
could do handheld.
Maybe we're shooting this show
long lens.

804
00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:02,433
Maybe we're shooting this show
long lens.
Oh, maybe we're in a wide frame.

805
00:25:02,435 --> 00:25:06,604
Long lens.
Oh, maybe we're in a wide frame.
So, my deal with hbo, which...

806
00:25:06,606 --> 00:25:09,507
Oh, maybe we're in a wide frame.
So, my deal with hbo, which...
When I think about it for...For

807
00:25:09,509 --> 00:25:11,642
so, my deal with hbo, which...
When I think about it for...For
us, is kind of a rare

808
00:25:11,644 --> 00:25:14,211
when I think about it for...For
us, is kind of a rare
opportunity that I've been

809
00:25:14,213 --> 00:25:15,112
us, is kind of a rare
opportunity that I've been
given.

810
00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:19,250
Opportunity that I've been
given.
Though, in my dreams, it's

811
00:25:19,252 --> 00:25:23,921
given.
Though, in my dreams, it's
what...It's what my endgame was

812
00:25:23,923 --> 00:25:26,023
though, in my dreams, it's
what...It's what my endgame was
to get to a platform like that,

813
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:28,192
what...It's what my endgame was
to get to a platform like that,
because I really want to do that

814
00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:29,260
to get to a platform like that,
because I really want to do that
kind of work.

815
00:25:29,262 --> 00:25:30,861
Because I really want to do that
kind of work.
I've always wanted to do that

816
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:32,296
kind of work.
I've always wanted to do that
kind, even as an actress.

817
00:25:32,298 --> 00:25:33,998
I've always wanted to do that
kind, even as an actress.
I want to do really great work.

818
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,100
Kind, even as an actress.
I want to do really great work.
Kind of happened by chance.

819
00:25:36,102 --> 00:25:38,302
I want to do really great work.
Kind of happened by chance.
So, I was supposed to do just

820
00:25:38,304 --> 00:25:39,803
kind of happened by chance.
So, I was supposed to do just
two episodes of

821
00:25:39,805 --> 00:25:42,473
so, I was supposed to do just
two episodes of
"the gilded age," which is this

822
00:25:42,475 --> 00:25:44,708
two episodes of
"the gilded age," which is this
big period drama for hbo.

823
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:46,810
"the gilded age," which is this
big period drama for hbo.
And then covid happened and we

824
00:25:46,812 --> 00:25:48,913
big period drama for hbo.
And then covid happened and we
kind of got stalled and then I

825
00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:50,514
and then covid happened and we
kind of got stalled and then I
started talking to the

826
00:25:50,516 --> 00:25:52,516
kind of got stalled and then I
started talking to the
producers, and we got on our

827
00:25:52,518 --> 00:25:54,418
started talking to the
producers, and we got on our
first calls and they really

828
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:56,520
producers, and we got on our
first calls and they really
liked my energy, and they were

829
00:25:56,522 --> 00:26:00,090
first calls and they really
liked my energy, and they were
like, "hey, would you be

830
00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:02,526
liked my energy, and they were
like, "hey, would you be
interested in maybe doing four

831
00:26:02,528 --> 00:26:03,861
like, "hey, would you be
interested in maybe doing four
episodes now?"

832
00:26:03,863 --> 00:26:05,796
interested in maybe doing four
episodes now?"
and I had other things going,

833
00:26:05,798 --> 00:26:07,531
episodes now?"
and I had other things going,
and I was like, "well..."

834
00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:08,599
and I had other things going,
and I was like, "well..."
and, you know, "we're gonna

835
00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:09,767
and I was like, "well..."
and, you know, "we're gonna
shoot the whole season at the

836
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:10,301
and, you know, "we're gonna
shoot the whole season at the
same time."

837
00:26:10,303 --> 00:26:11,435
shoot the whole season at the
same time."
and I was just like, "well,

838
00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:12,636
same time."
and I was just like, "well,
that's a lot of my time given

839
00:26:12,638 --> 00:26:15,940
and I was just like, "well,
that's a lot of my time given
just to you when I could be

840
00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:17,474
that's a lot of my time given
just to you when I could be
doing something else, and a lot

841
00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:19,043
just to you when I could be
doing something else, and a lot
of energy developing the look of

842
00:26:19,045 --> 00:26:22,613
doing something else, and a lot
of energy developing the look of
your show, honestly, for just

843
00:26:22,615 --> 00:26:23,747
of energy developing the look of
your show, honestly, for just
being a guest director.

844
00:26:23,749 --> 00:26:24,915
Your show, honestly, for just
being a guest director.
That doesn't interest me.

845
00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:26,150
Being a guest director.
That doesn't interest me.
So, nope, I'll do my two."

846
00:26:26,152 --> 00:26:27,718
that doesn't interest me.
So, nope, I'll do my two."
then it grew to, "oh, well,

847
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,154
so, nope, I'll do my two."
then it grew to, "oh, well,
maybe we'll bring you on as a

848
00:26:30,156 --> 00:26:32,289
then it grew to, "oh, well,
maybe we'll bring you on as a
producer too," and then I

849
00:26:32,291 --> 00:26:34,592
maybe we'll bring you on as a
producer too," and then I
started talking to hbo, and

850
00:26:34,594 --> 00:26:36,460
producer too," and then I
started talking to hbo, and
then we started talking about a

851
00:26:36,462 --> 00:26:38,095
started talking to hbo, and
then we started talking about a
first-look deal with that.

852
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:39,363
Then we started talking about a
first-look deal with that.
And then that first-look deal,

853
00:26:39,365 --> 00:26:42,132
first-look deal with that.
And then that first-look deal,
as we were negotiating, turned

854
00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:45,636
and then that first-look deal,
as we were negotiating, turned
into a two-year overall deal.

855
00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,538
As we were negotiating, turned
into a two-year overall deal.
And every time it got bigger and

856
00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:49,406
into a two-year overall deal.
And every time it got bigger and
bigger, I'd call my manager and

857
00:26:49,408 --> 00:26:51,075
and every time it got bigger and
bigger, I'd call my manager and
I'd go, "what is happening?

858
00:26:51,077 --> 00:26:54,044
Bigger, I'd call my manager and
I'd go, "what is happening?
Okay, um..."

859
00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:55,312
I'd go, "what is happening?
Okay, um..."
every time I swear I'm on these

860
00:26:55,314 --> 00:26:56,714
okay, um..."
every time I swear I'm on these
jobs, I go, "I don't know why

861
00:26:56,716 --> 00:26:57,715
every time I swear I'm on these
jobs, I go, "I don't know why
they're doing this,

862
00:26:57,717 --> 00:26:59,516
jobs, I go, "I don't know why
they're doing this,
I don't know why they trust me.

863
00:26:59,518 --> 00:27:02,052
They're doing this,
I don't know why they trust me.
But I am just gonna go with it."

864
00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:04,822
I don't know why they trust me.
But I am just gonna go with it."
and it just kind of got bigger,

865
00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:06,423
but I am just gonna go with it."
and it just kind of got bigger,
and...

866
00:27:06,425 --> 00:27:08,192
And it just kind of got bigger,
and...
So, I was already supposed to do

867
00:27:08,194 --> 00:27:09,827
and...
So, I was already supposed to do
this project about the lakers

868
00:27:09,829 --> 00:27:10,461
so, I was already supposed to do
this project about the lakers
for hbo.

869
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,129
This project about the lakers
for hbo.
And then so it just kind of

870
00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:14,031
for hbo.
And then so it just kind of
became -- it just grew all of a

871
00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:15,866
and then so it just kind of
became -- it just grew all of a
sudden into this overall deal,

872
00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:18,202
became -- it just grew all of a
sudden into this overall deal,
and I think -- I think they're

873
00:27:18,204 --> 00:27:20,270
sudden into this overall deal,
and I think -- I think they're
happy, and I think that...

874
00:27:20,272 --> 00:27:22,206
And I think -- I think they're
happy, and I think that...
I have exceeded their

875
00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:23,574
happy, and I think that...
I have exceeded their
expectations.

876
00:27:23,576 --> 00:27:26,443
I have exceeded their
expectations.
And, honestly, I mean, that is a

877
00:27:26,445 --> 00:27:29,046
expectations.
And, honestly, I mean, that is a
game-- again, every project

878
00:27:29,048 --> 00:27:32,082
and, honestly, I mean, that is a
game-- again, every project
becomes a game changer for that,

879
00:27:32,084 --> 00:27:34,718
game-- again, every project
becomes a game changer for that,
and I can't even imagine where I

880
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,553
becomes a game changer for that,
and I can't even imagine where I
can go to from there.

881
00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:38,922
And I can't even imagine where I
can go to from there.
And I look back, and

882
00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:44,528
can go to from there.
And I look back, and
francesca orsi over at hbo who

883
00:27:44,530 --> 00:27:47,131
and I look back, and
francesca orsi over at hbo who
took this chance with me, again

884
00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:49,733
francesca orsi over at hbo who
took this chance with me, again
is another woman who changed my

885
00:27:49,735 --> 00:27:53,003
took this chance with me, again
is another woman who changed my
life and is definitely going to,

886
00:27:53,005 --> 00:27:55,839
is another woman who changed my
life and is definitely going to,
like...

887
00:27:55,841 --> 00:27:57,408
Life and is definitely going to,
like...
Everything is different now.

888
00:27:57,410 --> 00:27:58,776
Like...
Everything is different now.
Everything is different.

889
00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,277
Everything is different now.
Everything is different.
For the lakers show, I mean, I

890
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:01,211
everything is different.
For the lakers show, I mean, I
have sally field,

891
00:28:01,213 --> 00:28:03,914
for the lakers show, I mean, I
have sally field,
john c. Reilly, jason clarke,

892
00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:06,750
have sally field,
john c. Reilly, jason clarke,
jason segel, adrien brody,

893
00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,619
john c. Reilly, jason clarke,
jason segel, adrien brody,
the list goes on and on.

894
00:28:08,621 --> 00:28:10,120
Jason segel, adrien brody,
the list goes on and on.
Michael chiklis.

895
00:28:10,122 --> 00:28:11,755
The list goes on and on.
Michael chiklis.
The list is crazy.

896
00:28:11,757 --> 00:28:15,959
Michael chiklis.
The list is crazy.
And then for "the gilded age,"

897
00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:17,528
the list is crazy.
And then for "the gilded age,"
I have cynthia nixon from

898
00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:18,762
and then for "the gilded age,"
I have cynthia nixon from
"sex and the city,"

899
00:28:18,764 --> 00:28:20,230
I have cynthia nixon from
"sex and the city,"
christine baranski.

900
00:28:20,232 --> 00:28:21,965
"sex and the city,"
christine baranski.
These people have been in

901
00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:22,866
christine baranski.
These people have been in
everything.

902
00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:26,170
These people have been in
everything.
And they listen to me.

903
00:28:26,172 --> 00:28:27,705
Everything.
And they listen to me.
I think half the time I go, "I

904
00:28:27,707 --> 00:28:29,173
and they listen to me.
I think half the time I go, "I
don't know why they trust me,

905
00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:29,973
I think half the time I go, "I
don't know why they trust me,
but they do."

906
00:28:29,975 --> 00:28:30,874
don't know why they trust me,
but they do."
[ laughs ]

907
00:28:30,876 --> 00:28:32,109
but they do."
[ laughs ]
like I said, it's an amazing

908
00:28:32,111 --> 00:28:33,477
[ laughs ]
like I said, it's an amazing
experience, which makes me know

909
00:28:33,479 --> 00:28:34,778
like I said, it's an amazing
experience, which makes me know
I'm on the right track of what

910
00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:36,146
experience, which makes me know
I'm on the right track of what
I'm supposed to do, but it also

911
00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:38,348
I'm on the right track of what
I'm supposed to do, but it also
makes me go, "hey, I want to get

912
00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:39,183
I'm supposed to do, but it also
makes me go, "hey, I want to get
in there.

913
00:28:39,185 --> 00:28:40,718
Makes me go, "hey, I want to get
in there.
I can still do this."

914
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,419
in there.
I can still do this."
and maybe I'll still find my

915
00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:43,821
I can still do this."
and maybe I'll still find my
opportunity, you know?

916
00:28:43,823 --> 00:28:45,456
And maybe I'll still find my
opportunity, you know?
I'm always looking for that job

917
00:28:45,458 --> 00:28:46,890
opportunity, you know?
I'm always looking for that job
that I'm gonna be producing

918
00:28:46,892 --> 00:28:48,492
I'm always looking for that job
that I'm gonna be producing
next, you know, something that

919
00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:50,060
that I'm gonna be producing
next, you know, something that
I'm directing that there might

920
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,096
next, you know, something that
I'm directing that there might
be a nice little meaty role

921
00:28:52,098 --> 00:28:53,931
I'm directing that there might
be a nice little meaty role
that I can jump in to do.

922
00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:55,999
Be a nice little meaty role
that I can jump in to do.
But right now, I need to focus

923
00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:58,001
that I can jump in to do.
But right now, I need to focus
on -- I need to focus on this

924
00:28:58,003 --> 00:29:00,137
but right now, I need to focus
on -- I need to focus on this
gift that god has given me, and

925
00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:02,306
on -- I need to focus on this
gift that god has given me, and
he's saying, "you're really good

926
00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:03,073
gift that god has given me, and
he's saying, "you're really good
at this.

927
00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:06,510
He's saying, "you're really good
at this.
Take it and run and build your

928
00:29:06,512 --> 00:29:08,579
at this.
Take it and run and build your
legacy here."

929
00:29:08,581 --> 00:29:10,914
take it and run and build your
legacy here."
I take this job very seriously,

930
00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:13,217
legacy here."
I take this job very seriously,
because I know that every woman

931
00:29:13,219 --> 00:29:16,086
I take this job very seriously,
because I know that every woman
who comes after me on that set,

932
00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:18,555
because I know that every woman
who comes after me on that set,
every -- every black woman

933
00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:20,858
who comes after me on that set,
every -- every black woman
in particular, is judged by how

934
00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:23,327
every -- every black woman
in particular, is judged by how
well I do, how I carry myself.

935
00:29:23,329 --> 00:29:24,995
In particular, is judged by how
well I do, how I carry myself.
If that's -- if I'm your only

936
00:29:24,997 --> 00:29:26,830
well I do, how I carry myself.
If that's -- if I'm your only
experience and I don't do a good

937
00:29:26,832 --> 00:29:28,632
if that's -- if I'm your only
experience and I don't do a good
job, then everyone else is gonna

938
00:29:28,634 --> 00:29:29,666
experience and I don't do a good
job, then everyone else is gonna
be judged by me.

939
00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:32,069
Job, then everyone else is gonna
be judged by me.
So, I do -- I do a lot -- I work

940
00:29:32,071 --> 00:29:34,571
be judged by me.
So, I do -- I do a lot -- I work
very hard to make sure that

941
00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:36,874
so, I do -- I do a lot -- I work
very hard to make sure that
anyone who comes behind me is

942
00:29:36,876 --> 00:29:37,508
very hard to make sure that
anyone who comes behind me is
given the benefit of a doubt.

943
00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:49,286
>> richardson: So, I met my
husband on "between brothers,"
which was...Dondré whitfield,

944
00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:52,055
husband on "between brothers,"
which was...Dondré whitfield,
tommy davidson, kadeem hardison,

945
00:29:52,057 --> 00:29:54,892
which was...Dondré whitfield,
tommy davidson, kadeem hardison,
and kelly perine.

946
00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:57,194
Tommy davidson, kadeem hardison,
and kelly perine.
And my husband tells the story

947
00:29:57,196 --> 00:29:59,396
and kelly perine.
And my husband tells the story
that they were looking for a

948
00:29:59,398 --> 00:30:01,632
and my husband tells the story
that they were looking for a
love interest for him, and he

949
00:30:01,634 --> 00:30:03,433
that they were looking for a
love interest for him, and he
suggested me, and he said, "I

950
00:30:03,435 --> 00:30:05,302
love interest for him, and he
suggested me, and he said, "I
really want salli richardson,"

951
00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:07,337
suggested me, and he said, "I
really want salli richardson,"
and they were like, "you're

952
00:30:07,339 --> 00:30:08,038
really want salli richardson,"
and they were like, "you're
crazy.

953
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,373
And they were like, "you're
crazy.
She's not gonna do this,

954
00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:10,140
crazy.
She's not gonna do this,
absolutely."

955
00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:11,041
she's not gonna do this,
absolutely."
and he said the same thing,

956
00:30:11,043 --> 00:30:11,975
absolutely."
and he said the same thing,
"she's probably gonna be too

957
00:30:11,977 --> 00:30:12,276
and he said the same thing,
"she's probably gonna be too
busy.

958
00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:13,610
"she's probably gonna be too
busy.
She's doing a movie."

959
00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:15,479
busy.
She's doing a movie."
but of course, as we all know in

960
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:17,181
she's doing a movie."
but of course, as we all know in
the business, I wasn't doing

961
00:30:17,183 --> 00:30:18,649
but of course, as we all know in
the business, I wasn't doing
nothing, needed a job...

962
00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:21,018
The business, I wasn't doing
nothing, needed a job...
[ laughs ]

963
00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:22,186
nothing, needed a job...
[ laughs ]
...'cause I was -- at the time,

964
00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:23,153
[ laughs ]
...'cause I was -- at the time,
I was like, "oh, I just do

965
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:23,587
...'cause I was -- at the time,
I was like, "oh, I just do
movies."

966
00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:24,922
I was like, "oh, I just do
movies."
you didn't know that you

967
00:30:24,924 --> 00:30:26,223
movies."
you didn't know that you
should've been doing tv.

968
00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:27,991
You didn't know that you
should've been doing tv.
And they called, and I was like,

969
00:30:27,993 --> 00:30:29,693
should've been doing tv.
And they called, and I was like,
"yeah, I'll come in and do it."

970
00:30:29,695 --> 00:30:31,662
and they called, and I was like,
"yeah, I'll come in and do it."
I still remember him coming down

971
00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:33,063
"yeah, I'll come in and do it."
I still remember him coming down
the stairs, you know.

972
00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:35,165
I still remember him coming down
the stairs, you know.
My husband is a very quiet

973
00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:35,966
the stairs, you know.
My husband is a very quiet
person.

974
00:30:35,968 --> 00:30:37,434
My husband is a very quiet
person.
He was coming down the stairs,

975
00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:38,802
person.
He was coming down the stairs,
and I think he was rapping.

976
00:30:38,804 --> 00:30:40,871
He was coming down the stairs,
and I think he was rapping.
He was just all in himself.

977
00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:42,306
And I think he was rapping.
He was just all in himself.
And we had this scene we were

978
00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:43,807
he was just all in himself.
And we had this scene we were
rehearsing, and we had to be in

979
00:30:43,809 --> 00:30:44,341
and we had this scene we were
rehearsing, and we had to be in
the bed.

980
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:46,510
Rehearsing, and we had to be in
the bed.
So I was already in the bed as

981
00:30:46,512 --> 00:30:48,679
the bed.
So I was already in the bed as
he was popping down the thing.

982
00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:50,147
So I was already in the bed as
he was popping down the thing.
And I -- I don't know.

983
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:52,049
He was popping down the thing.
And I -- I don't know.
I just remember seeing him for

984
00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:53,784
and I -- I don't know.
I just remember seeing him for
the first time, but I would

985
00:30:53,786 --> 00:30:55,652
I just remember seeing him for
the first time, but I would
never have thought I would be

986
00:30:55,654 --> 00:30:56,520
the first time, but I would
never have thought I would be
dating him.

987
00:30:56,522 --> 00:30:58,589
Never have thought I would be
dating him.
I thought he was fun, he was

988
00:30:58,591 --> 00:31:00,724
dating him.
I thought he was fun, he was
young, he was cute, but -- he

989
00:31:00,726 --> 00:31:03,994
I thought he was fun, he was
young, he was cute, but -- he
was funny, but not necessarily

990
00:31:03,996 --> 00:31:04,895
young, he was cute, but -- he
was funny, but not necessarily
my type.

991
00:31:04,897 --> 00:31:06,530
Was funny, but not necessarily
my type.
But those are the ones that get

992
00:31:06,532 --> 00:31:07,898
my type.
But those are the ones that get
you, 'cause he was acting

993
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:09,433
but those are the ones that get
you, 'cause he was acting
like -- you know how they get

994
00:31:09,435 --> 00:31:10,634
you, 'cause he was acting
like -- you know how they get
you to be your friend,

995
00:31:10,636 --> 00:31:11,501
like -- you know how they get
you to be your friend,
mr. Funny guy?

996
00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:14,638
You to be your friend,
mr. Funny guy?
And eventually, he won me over.

997
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,873
Mr. Funny guy?
And eventually, he won me over.
[ chuckles ]

998
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,374
and eventually, he won me over.
[ chuckles ]
dondré and I have been

999
00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:18,275
[ chuckles ]
dondré and I have been
together...

1000
00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:21,511
Dondré and I have been
together...
Let's see. [ muttering ]

1001
00:31:21,513 --> 00:31:25,082
together...
Let's see. [ muttering ]
...24 years, married 19.

1002
00:31:25,084 --> 00:31:27,117
Let's see. [ muttering ]
...24 years, married 19.
I mean, that's like 50 years in

1003
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:27,985
...24 years, married 19.
I mean, that's like 50 years in
hollywood.

1004
00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:29,353
I mean, that's like 50 years in
hollywood.
But, you know, it's been -- you

1005
00:31:29,355 --> 00:31:30,654
hollywood.
But, you know, it's been -- you
know, it's hard to be married.

1006
00:31:30,656 --> 00:31:32,055
But, you know, it's been -- you
know, it's hard to be married.
This town is not the kind of

1007
00:31:32,057 --> 00:31:33,557
know, it's hard to be married.
This town is not the kind of
town that's good for marriage.

1008
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,125
This town is not the kind of
town that's good for marriage.
But I think that both of us kind

1009
00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:37,527
town that's good for marriage.
But I think that both of us kind
of come from stock of people who

1010
00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:39,529
but I think that both of us kind
of come from stock of people who
we've decided we made this

1011
00:31:39,531 --> 00:31:41,598
of come from stock of people who
we've decided we made this
commitment, and we're gonna

1012
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,966
we've decided we made this
commitment, and we're gonna
figure this out.

1013
00:31:42,968 --> 00:31:44,034
Commitment, and we're gonna
figure this out.
We have kids.

1014
00:31:44,036 --> 00:31:45,435
Figure this out.
We have kids.
Our kids are happy.

1015
00:31:45,437 --> 00:31:46,870
We have kids.
Our kids are happy.
And at the end of the day, we

1016
00:31:46,872 --> 00:31:47,771
our kids are happy.
And at the end of the day, we
love each other.

1017
00:31:47,773 --> 00:31:49,339
And at the end of the day, we
love each other.
And no matter how much we may

1018
00:31:49,341 --> 00:31:50,908
love each other.
And no matter how much we may
argue about this or see each

1019
00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:52,342
and no matter how much we may
argue about this or see each
other different -- I mean,

1020
00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:53,911
argue about this or see each
other different -- I mean,
honestly, we're very opposite

1021
00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:54,478
other different -- I mean,
honestly, we're very opposite
people.

1022
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,348
Honestly, we're very opposite
people.
But it works, and we're in it

1023
00:31:58,350 --> 00:31:59,516
people.
But it works, and we're in it
to win it.

1024
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,685
But it works, and we're in it
to win it.
It's funny, because we both

1025
00:32:01,687 --> 00:32:04,187
to win it.
It's funny, because we both
have very big personalities, but

1026
00:32:04,189 --> 00:32:06,390
it's funny, because we both
have very big personalities, but
he's definitely much more

1027
00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:08,959
have very big personalities, but
he's definitely much more
outgoing than me, and he loves

1028
00:32:08,961 --> 00:32:10,928
he's definitely much more
outgoing than me, and he loves
to entertain everyone.

1029
00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:12,729
Outgoing than me, and he loves
to entertain everyone.
He loves to be the funniest guy

1030
00:32:12,731 --> 00:32:13,630
to entertain everyone.
He loves to be the funniest guy
at the party.

1031
00:32:13,632 --> 00:32:15,832
He loves to be the funniest guy
at the party.
And I'm more willing to kind of

1032
00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:18,001
at the party.
And I'm more willing to kind of
lie in the cut at times, though

1033
00:32:18,003 --> 00:32:20,137
and I'm more willing to kind of
lie in the cut at times, though
there's times when I'm sure --

1034
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:21,638
lie in the cut at times, though
there's times when I'm sure --
I mean, he would say it -- I'm

1035
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,206
there's times when I'm sure --
I mean, he would say it -- I'm
the big one and keep talking and

1036
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:24,441
I mean, he would say it -- I'm
the big one and keep talking and
want to be the center of

1037
00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:25,075
the big one and keep talking and
want to be the center of
attention.

1038
00:32:25,077 --> 00:32:27,077
Want to be the center of
attention.
But I think I'm more willing to

1039
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:28,946
attention.
But I think I'm more willing to
lie back and let other people

1040
00:32:28,948 --> 00:32:30,614
but I think I'm more willing to
lie back and let other people
take over.

1041
00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:32,349
Lie back and let other people
take over.
And my husband's presence is a

1042
00:32:32,351 --> 00:32:34,184
take over.
And my husband's presence is a
big presence when it come-- when

1043
00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:35,552
and my husband's presence is a
big presence when it come-- when
he comes into the room.

1044
00:32:35,554 --> 00:32:37,587
Big presence when it come-- when
he comes into the room.
Believe it or not, my husband is

1045
00:32:37,589 --> 00:32:39,489
he comes into the room.
Believe it or not, my husband is
much more reserved than I am.

1046
00:32:39,491 --> 00:32:41,658
Believe it or not, my husband is
much more reserved than I am.
He's the guy who doesn't drink.

1047
00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:42,926
Much more reserved than I am.
He's the guy who doesn't drink.
Never did any drugs.

1048
00:32:42,928 --> 00:32:44,528
He's the guy who doesn't drink.
Never did any drugs.
He's just -- not that I did

1049
00:32:44,530 --> 00:32:45,062
never did any drugs.
He's just -- not that I did
drugs.

1050
00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:46,930
He's just -- not that I did
drugs.
I'm just saying he never did it.

1051
00:32:46,932 --> 00:32:48,799
Drugs.
I'm just saying he never did it.
No. [ laughs ]

1052
00:32:48,801 --> 00:32:50,167
I'm just saying he never did it.
No. [ laughs ]
no, I'm just saying!

1053
00:32:50,169 --> 00:32:52,602
No. [ laughs ]
no, I'm just saying!
But he's just much more reserved

1054
00:32:52,604 --> 00:32:53,603
no, I'm just saying!
But he's just much more reserved
than I am.

1055
00:32:53,605 --> 00:32:55,038
But he's just much more reserved
than I am.
Yeah, it's weird.

1056
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,441
Than I am.
Yeah, it's weird.
Like, I think that it's probably

1057
00:32:57,443 --> 00:32:59,443
yeah, it's weird.
Like, I think that it's probably
good that we got together.

1058
00:32:59,445 --> 00:33:01,845
Like, I think that it's probably
good that we got together.
He sort of reigned me in when

1059
00:33:01,847 --> 00:33:05,349
good that we got together.
He sort of reigned me in when
I could be like a lot of people

1060
00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:08,251
he sort of reigned me in when
I could be like a lot of people
who get lost in -- get lost in

1061
00:33:08,253 --> 00:33:09,353
I could be like a lot of people
who get lost in -- get lost in
california.

1062
00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:11,688
Who get lost in -- get lost in
california.
And we met at the right time,

1063
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:13,724
california.
And we met at the right time,
and it grounded me.

1064
00:33:13,726 --> 00:33:15,258
And we met at the right time,
and it grounded me.
And, you know, we may be

1065
00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:17,094
and it grounded me.
And, you know, we may be
different, but it was probably

1066
00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:18,362
and, you know, we may be
different, but it was probably
something I needed.

1067
00:33:18,364 --> 00:33:19,796
Different, but it was probably
something I needed.
I always think of everything

1068
00:33:19,798 --> 00:33:21,198
something I needed.
I always think of everything
that happens is something I

1069
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,132
I always think of everything
that happens is something I
probably needed.

1070
00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:25,302
That happens is something I
probably needed.
My love language is...I like to

1071
00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:27,571
probably needed.
My love language is...I like to
do things for people.

1072
00:33:27,573 --> 00:33:29,306
My love language is...I like to
do things for people.
I'm the person who's gonna cook

1073
00:33:29,308 --> 00:33:29,940
do things for people.
I'm the person who's gonna cook
for you.

1074
00:33:29,942 --> 00:33:31,341
I'm the person who's gonna cook
for you.
I'm gonna make sure you have

1075
00:33:31,343 --> 00:33:31,942
for you.
I'm gonna make sure you have
your food.

1076
00:33:31,944 --> 00:33:33,043
I'm gonna make sure you have
your food.
I'm cleaning up after

1077
00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:33,677
your food.
I'm cleaning up after
everybody.

1078
00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:38,115
I'm cleaning up after
everybody.
So, I do, I do, I do.

1079
00:33:38,117 --> 00:33:41,418
Everybody.
So, I do, I do, I do.
My husband, he wants affection.

1080
00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:44,688
So, I do, I do, I do.
My husband, he wants affection.
He's much more touchy.

1081
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:47,224
My husband, he wants affection.
He's much more touchy.
He's an emotional person, and

1082
00:33:47,226 --> 00:33:49,960
he's much more touchy.
He's an emotional person, and
I am not.

1083
00:33:49,962 --> 00:33:51,762
He's an emotional person, and
I am not.
Which -- and honestly, I wish I

1084
00:33:51,764 --> 00:33:52,462
I am not.
Which -- and honestly, I wish I
was more.

1085
00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:54,031
Which -- and honestly, I wish I
was more.
Everyone always calls me the

1086
00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:55,732
was more.
Everyone always calls me the
man, even my husband sometimes,

1087
00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:56,933
everyone always calls me the
man, even my husband sometimes,
in the relationship.

1088
00:33:56,935 --> 00:33:58,268
Man, even my husband sometimes,
in the relationship.
And it's not because I'm the

1089
00:33:58,270 --> 00:33:58,969
in the relationship.
And it's not because I'm the
leader of it.

1090
00:33:58,971 --> 00:34:00,370
And it's not because I'm the
leader of it.
It's just because I kind of...

1091
00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:02,339
Leader of it.
It's just because I kind of...
I have, like, these man emotions

1092
00:34:02,341 --> 00:34:04,708
it's just because I kind of...
I have, like, these man emotions
that can be very...You know,

1093
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:05,942
I have, like, these man emotions
that can be very...You know,
unemotional.

1094
00:34:05,944 --> 00:34:07,711
That can be very...You know,
unemotional.
But, yeah, my husband is a

1095
00:34:07,713 --> 00:34:08,345
unemotional.
But, yeah, my husband is a
lover.

1096
00:34:08,347 --> 00:34:10,380
But, yeah, my husband is a
lover.
He wants that affection, and --

1097
00:34:10,382 --> 00:34:12,249
lover.
He wants that affection, and --
he wants the affection, and I do

1098
00:34:12,251 --> 00:34:13,717
he wants that affection, and --
he wants the affection, and I do
things for you to show my

1099
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,484
he wants the affection, and I do
things for you to show my
affection.

1100
00:34:14,486 --> 00:34:16,420
Things for you to show my
affection.
As opposed to being at home,

1101
00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:18,555
affection.
As opposed to being at home,
directing my husband was a much

1102
00:34:18,557 --> 00:34:19,923
as opposed to being at home,
directing my husband was a much
better experience.

1103
00:34:19,925 --> 00:34:21,191
Directing my husband was a much
better experience.
[ chuckles ]

1104
00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:22,659
better experience.
[ chuckles ]
at home, he doesn't have to

1105
00:34:22,661 --> 00:34:23,493
[ chuckles ]
at home, he doesn't have to
listen to me.

1106
00:34:23,495 --> 00:34:25,529
At home, he doesn't have to
listen to me.
Though, he does a little bit.

1107
00:34:25,531 --> 00:34:27,697
Listen to me.
Though, he does a little bit.
But directing my husband was...

1108
00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:29,699
Though, he does a little bit.
But directing my husband was...
It was wonderful, and he's

1109
00:34:29,701 --> 00:34:31,802
but directing my husband was...
It was wonderful, and he's
completely respectful of the

1110
00:34:31,804 --> 00:34:33,637
it was wonderful, and he's
completely respectful of the
space and was trying to prep

1111
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:34,871
completely respectful of the
space and was trying to prep
everybody for me.

1112
00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:35,739
Space and was trying to prep
everybody for me.
"she's bossy.

1113
00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:37,541
Everybody for me.
"she's bossy.
She's gonna tell you exactly..."

1114
00:34:37,543 --> 00:34:38,208
"she's bossy.
She's gonna tell you exactly..."
you know?

1115
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:39,843
She's gonna tell you exactly..."
you know?
I think I was a little bossier

1116
00:34:39,845 --> 00:34:41,578
you know?
I think I was a little bossier
then when I first started 'cause

1117
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,246
I think I was a little bossier
then when I first started 'cause
you want to control everything.

1118
00:34:43,248 --> 00:34:44,414
Then when I first started 'cause
you want to control everything.
Tina lifford would say I

1119
00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:45,515
you want to control everything.
Tina lifford would say I
wouldn't let her move.

1120
00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:46,883
Tina lifford would say I
wouldn't let her move.
I'd be like, "you stand here,

1121
00:34:46,885 --> 00:34:48,351
wouldn't let her move.
I'd be like, "you stand here,
you go here, you turn your head

1122
00:34:48,353 --> 00:34:49,319
I'd be like, "you stand here,
you go here, you turn your head
to the right here."

1123
00:34:49,321 --> 00:34:50,720
you go here, you turn your head
to the right here."
I was right, though.

1124
00:34:50,722 --> 00:34:52,255
To the right here."
I was right, though.
It looked really good.

1125
00:34:52,257 --> 00:34:52,989
I was right, though.
It looked really good.
But, no.

1126
00:34:52,991 --> 00:34:53,957
It looked really good.
But, no.
It was -- I always have fun

1127
00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:54,825
but, no.
It was -- I always have fun
working with my husband.

1128
00:34:54,827 --> 00:34:56,693
It was -- I always have fun
working with my husband.
We've acted in like three or

1129
00:34:56,695 --> 00:34:58,361
working with my husband.
We've acted in like three or
four different projects.

1130
00:34:58,363 --> 00:35:00,363
We've acted in like three or
four different projects.
So, directing him was just the

1131
00:35:00,365 --> 00:35:02,365
four different projects.
So, directing him was just the
cherry on the top and probably

1132
00:35:02,367 --> 00:35:03,133
so, directing him was just the
cherry on the top and probably
the only time where he

1133
00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:05,936
cherry on the top and probably
the only time where he
absolutely had to do what I was

1134
00:35:05,938 --> 00:35:06,369
the only time where he
absolutely had to do what I was
telling him to do.

1135
00:35:09,257 --> 00:35:09,389
♪

1136
00:35:13,728 --> 00:35:14,060
>> richardson: You?

1137
00:35:20,568 --> 00:35:20,634
Yes.

1138
00:35:23,671 --> 00:35:30,010
That's hard for me, because it
is outside of my comfort zone.
You know, we know each other.

1139
00:35:30,012 --> 00:35:32,212
Is outside of my comfort zone.
You know, we know each other.
I think in real life, I get the

1140
00:35:32,214 --> 00:35:33,513
you know, we know each other.
I think in real life, I get the
joke, I'm funny.

1141
00:35:33,515 --> 00:35:35,715
I think in real life, I get the
joke, I'm funny.
I have a kind of sarcastic wit.

1142
00:35:35,717 --> 00:35:37,684
Joke, I'm funny.
I have a kind of sarcastic wit.
But bringing that onto film is

1143
00:35:37,686 --> 00:35:38,919
I have a kind of sarcastic wit.
But bringing that onto film is
different for me.

1144
00:35:38,921 --> 00:35:42,055
But bringing that onto film is
different for me.
So, I absolutely had the best

1145
00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:44,090
different for me.
So, I absolutely had the best
time of my life, mostly because

1146
00:35:44,092 --> 00:35:45,659
so, I absolutely had the best
time of my life, mostly because
any -- it was a challenge.

1147
00:35:45,661 --> 00:35:46,893
Time of my life, mostly because
any -- it was a challenge.
It was a challenge to try to --

1148
00:35:46,895 --> 00:35:47,961
any -- it was a challenge.
It was a challenge to try to --
like, try to be funny, and

1149
00:35:47,963 --> 00:35:49,129
it was a challenge to try to --
like, try to be funny, and
that's when you're not funny.

1150
00:35:49,131 --> 00:35:51,064
Like, try to be funny, and
that's when you're not funny.
But, yeah, I mean, I had a great

1151
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,999
that's when you're not funny.
But, yeah, I mean, I had a great
time and I can kind of make, you

1152
00:35:53,001 --> 00:35:54,901
but, yeah, I mean, I had a great
time and I can kind of make, you
know, a little spoof of myself.

1153
00:35:54,903 --> 00:35:56,703
Time and I can kind of make, you
know, a little spoof of myself.
And I had nicole there with me,

1154
00:35:56,705 --> 00:35:58,972
know, a little spoof of myself.
And I had nicole there with me,
too, and miss nicole is a

1155
00:35:58,974 --> 00:36:01,141
and I had nicole there with me,
too, and miss nicole is a
natural at comedy, so --

1156
00:36:01,143 --> 00:36:02,709
too, and miss nicole is a
natural at comedy, so --
nicole ari parker is who I'm

1157
00:36:02,711 --> 00:36:03,610
natural at comedy, so --
nicole ari parker is who I'm
talking about.

1158
00:36:03,612 --> 00:36:05,412
Nicole ari parker is who I'm
talking about.
She's funny, and I just kind of

1159
00:36:05,414 --> 00:36:05,846
talking about.
She's funny, and I just kind of
followed her lead.

1160
00:36:08,516 --> 00:36:11,818
>> richardson: My advice to
couples is not to do what me and
my husband do.

1161
00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:12,986
Couples is not to do what me and
my husband do.
[ laughs ]

1162
00:36:12,988 --> 00:36:14,487
my husband do.
[ laughs ]
like, you know, we'll make this

1163
00:36:14,489 --> 00:36:15,155
[ laughs ]
like, you know, we'll make this
commitment.

1164
00:36:15,157 --> 00:36:16,590
Like, you know, we'll make this
commitment.
We're gonna have a date night

1165
00:36:16,592 --> 00:36:18,091
commitment.
We're gonna have a date night
every, you know, at least twice

1166
00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:20,527
we're gonna have a date night
every, you know, at least twice
a month.

1167
00:36:20,529 --> 00:36:21,928
Every, you know, at least twice
a month.
Life happens.

1168
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:24,497
A month.
Life happens.
I'm tired.

1169
00:36:24,499 --> 00:36:25,565
Life happens.
I'm tired.
We old.

1170
00:36:25,567 --> 00:36:27,334
I'm tired.
We old.
I would rather our date night be

1171
00:36:27,336 --> 00:36:29,035
we old.
I would rather our date night be
in front of this tv cuddled up

1172
00:36:29,037 --> 00:36:31,204
I would rather our date night be
in front of this tv cuddled up
with our own bottle of wine and

1173
00:36:31,206 --> 00:36:33,373
in front of this tv cuddled up
with our own bottle of wine and
some popcorn, and that makes me

1174
00:36:33,375 --> 00:36:35,542
with our own bottle of wine and
some popcorn, and that makes me
happy, honestly, at this point,

1175
00:36:35,544 --> 00:36:37,477
some popcorn, and that makes me
happy, honestly, at this point,
until you're interrupted by two

1176
00:36:37,479 --> 00:36:39,079
happy, honestly, at this point,
until you're interrupted by two
kids asking you something

1177
00:36:39,081 --> 00:36:39,713
until you're interrupted by two
kids asking you something
stupid.

1178
00:36:39,715 --> 00:36:41,081
Kids asking you something
stupid.
No, but really.

1179
00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:43,149
Stupid.
No, but really.
My advice is just to -- I know

1180
00:36:43,151 --> 00:36:45,318
no, but really.
My advice is just to -- I know
it sounds stupid, but be honest.

1181
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,220
My advice is just to -- I know
it sounds stupid, but be honest.
Be really honest about your

1182
00:36:47,222 --> 00:36:49,256
it sounds stupid, but be honest.
Be really honest about your
feelings and what is going on

1183
00:36:49,258 --> 00:36:50,490
be really honest about your
feelings and what is going on
and communicate.

1184
00:36:50,492 --> 00:36:52,559
Feelings and what is going on
and communicate.
And I think that's what keeps us

1185
00:36:52,561 --> 00:36:54,561
and communicate.
And I think that's what keeps us
together, is that at the end of

1186
00:36:54,563 --> 00:36:56,396
and I think that's what keeps us
together, is that at the end of
the day, we're really honest

1187
00:36:56,398 --> 00:36:57,564
together, is that at the end of
the day, we're really honest
with each other.

1188
00:36:57,566 --> 00:36:58,798
The day, we're really honest
with each other.
"this bothers me."

1189
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,800
with each other.
"this bothers me."
"I don't like when you do that."

1190
00:37:00,802 --> 00:37:02,435
"this bothers me."
"I don't like when you do that."
and it gets us through to

1191
00:37:02,437 --> 00:37:03,737
"I don't like when you do that."
and it gets us through to
that -- it gets us through,

1192
00:37:03,739 --> 00:37:05,071
and it gets us through to
that -- it gets us through,
because if you don't -- if I

1193
00:37:05,073 --> 00:37:06,439
that -- it gets us through,
because if you don't -- if I
don't know what's wrong with

1194
00:37:06,441 --> 00:37:07,807
because if you don't -- if I
don't know what's wrong with
you, I'm gonna keep doing it.

1195
00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:08,975
Don't know what's wrong with
you, I'm gonna keep doing it.
So, communicate.

1196
00:37:08,977 --> 00:37:10,443
You, I'm gonna keep doing it.
So, communicate.
And I think -- I think that's

1197
00:37:10,445 --> 00:37:11,444
so, communicate.
And I think -- I think that's
what works for us.

1198
00:37:11,446 --> 00:37:13,280
And I think -- I think that's
what works for us.
And we do get away sometimes.

1199
00:37:13,282 --> 00:37:14,981
What works for us.
And we do get away sometimes.
You know, if you can get a

1200
00:37:14,983 --> 00:37:16,716
and we do get away sometimes.
You know, if you can get a
weekend away and reconnect,

1201
00:37:16,718 --> 00:37:19,519
you know, if you can get a
weekend away and reconnect,
it...That'll at least last you

1202
00:37:19,521 --> 00:37:20,220
weekend away and reconnect,
it...That'll at least last you
for a month.

1203
00:37:20,222 --> 00:37:22,989
It...That'll at least last you
for a month.
[ laughs ]

1204
00:37:22,991 --> 00:37:24,891
for a month.
[ laughs ]
the most I can really say about

1205
00:37:24,893 --> 00:37:26,826
[ laughs ]
the most I can really say about
my daughter -- and I think that

1206
00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:29,095
the most I can really say about
my daughter -- and I think that
this is what most moms want to

1207
00:37:29,097 --> 00:37:31,698
my daughter -- and I think that
this is what most moms want to
say -- is I like her.

1208
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:34,267
This is what most moms want to
say -- is I like her.
She...

1209
00:37:34,269 --> 00:37:36,636
Say -- is I like her.
She...
She's a good kid.

1210
00:37:36,638 --> 00:37:39,272
She...
She's a good kid.
She's kind.

1211
00:37:39,274 --> 00:37:40,907
She's a good kid.
She's kind.
She's beautiful.

1212
00:37:40,909 --> 00:37:42,542
She's kind.
She's beautiful.
She's smart.

1213
00:37:42,544 --> 00:37:44,577
She's beautiful.
She's smart.
She cares about people.

1214
00:37:44,579 --> 00:37:46,413
She's smart.
She cares about people.
She'll defend people.

1215
00:37:46,415 --> 00:37:47,981
She cares about people.
She'll defend people.
She's very much -- and she is

1216
00:37:47,983 --> 00:37:48,815
she'll defend people.
She's very much -- and she is
very much me.

1217
00:37:48,817 --> 00:37:50,283
She's very much -- and she is
very much me.
She's the one like, "who said

1218
00:37:50,285 --> 00:37:50,617
very much me.
She's the one like, "who said
it?

1219
00:37:50,619 --> 00:37:52,118
She's the one like, "who said
it?
Take 'em to..."

1220
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,420
it?
Take 'em to..."
you know, I'm like, "parker, you

1221
00:37:53,422 --> 00:37:54,688
take 'em to..."
you know, I'm like, "parker, you
can't be trying to fight people

1222
00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:55,889
you know, I'm like, "parker, you
can't be trying to fight people
at your little private school

1223
00:37:55,891 --> 00:37:57,157
can't be trying to fight people
at your little private school
just because they..." you know?

1224
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,326
At your little private school
just because they..." you know?
I think she's just all around a

1225
00:37:59,328 --> 00:38:01,361
just because they..." you know?
I think she's just all around a
great kid, and when she finds

1226
00:38:01,363 --> 00:38:02,963
I think she's just all around a
great kid, and when she finds
her way, I don't know.

1227
00:38:02,965 --> 00:38:04,497
Great kid, and when she finds
her way, I don't know.
She's gonna be something

1228
00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:05,165
her way, I don't know.
She's gonna be something
special.

1229
00:38:05,167 --> 00:38:06,566
She's gonna be something
special.
But she is very much like me.

1230
00:38:06,568 --> 00:38:07,901
Special.
But she is very much like me.
Maybe that's why I like her.

1231
00:38:07,903 --> 00:38:08,635
But she is very much like me.
Maybe that's why I like her.
I don't know.

1232
00:38:08,637 --> 00:38:09,836
Maybe that's why I like her.
I don't know.
[ chuckles ]

1233
00:38:09,838 --> 00:38:11,771
I don't know.
[ chuckles ]
I was -- I was always a sports

1234
00:38:11,773 --> 00:38:12,305
[ chuckles ]
I was -- I was always a sports
girl.

1235
00:38:12,307 --> 00:38:15,308
I was -- I was always a sports
girl.
Basketball, tennis, now -- now

1236
00:38:15,310 --> 00:38:16,876
girl.
Basketball, tennis, now -- now
I'm a golfer.

1237
00:38:16,878 --> 00:38:19,312
Basketball, tennis, now -- now
I'm a golfer.
And my daughter's into sports,

1238
00:38:19,314 --> 00:38:20,714
I'm a golfer.
And my daughter's into sports,
which I probably like too.

1239
00:38:20,716 --> 00:38:23,216
And my daughter's into sports,
which I probably like too.
I think we're very similar.

1240
00:38:23,218 --> 00:38:25,652
Which I probably like too.
I think we're very similar.
We're very similar people.

1241
00:38:25,654 --> 00:38:28,288
I think we're very similar.
We're very similar people.
In fact, she's already like me

1242
00:38:28,290 --> 00:38:29,422
we're very similar people.
In fact, she's already like me
as far as affection.

1243
00:38:29,424 --> 00:38:30,457
In fact, she's already like me
as far as affection.
My poor husband.

1244
00:38:30,459 --> 00:38:31,391
As far as affection.
My poor husband.
We're like, "why you trying to

1245
00:38:31,393 --> 00:38:31,725
my poor husband.
We're like, "why you trying to
hug us?"

1246
00:38:31,727 --> 00:38:33,560
we're like, "why you trying to
hug us?"
[ laughs ]

1247
00:38:33,562 --> 00:38:35,128
hug us?"
[ laughs ]
I've ruined my child already.

1248
00:38:35,130 --> 00:38:38,198
[ laughs ]
I've ruined my child already.
And even my son, dre whitfield,

1249
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,667
I've ruined my child already.
And even my son, dre whitfield,
I like my kids.

1250
00:38:40,669 --> 00:38:42,702
And even my son, dre whitfield,
I like my kids.
I mean, he drives me cra--

1251
00:38:42,704 --> 00:38:46,206
I like my kids.
I mean, he drives me cra--
'cause he is my husband.

1252
00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:48,775
I mean, he drives me cra--
'cause he is my husband.
He won't shut up.

1253
00:38:48,777 --> 00:38:50,243
'cause he is my husband.
He won't shut up.
He got to joke all day.

1254
00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:52,178
He won't shut up.
He got to joke all day.
Like, now at 13, everything is a

1255
00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:52,712
he got to joke all day.
Like, now at 13, everything is a
joke.

1256
00:38:52,714 --> 00:38:54,314
Like, now at 13, everything is a
joke.
Everything is, "hey, mom, I hurt

1257
00:38:54,316 --> 00:38:54,914
joke.
Everything is, "hey, mom, I hurt
my foot."

1258
00:38:54,916 --> 00:38:55,782
everything is, "hey, mom, I hurt
my foot."
"what happened?"

1259
00:38:55,784 --> 00:38:56,583
my foot."
"what happened?"
"just kidding!"

1260
00:38:56,585 --> 00:38:58,051
"what happened?"
"just kidding!"
you know, everything is a joke,

1261
00:38:58,053 --> 00:38:58,718
"just kidding!"
you know, everything is a joke,
joke, joke.

1262
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:03,223
You know, everything is a joke,
joke, joke.
But...Just like my husband, he's

1263
00:39:03,225 --> 00:39:05,425
joke, joke.
But...Just like my husband, he's
a little lover.

1264
00:39:05,427 --> 00:39:07,894
But...Just like my husband, he's
a little lover.
He wants affection from mommy,

1265
00:39:07,896 --> 00:39:08,895
a little lover.
He wants affection from mommy,
you know?

1266
00:39:08,897 --> 00:39:09,896
He wants affection from mommy,
you know?
He'll hate this.

1267
00:39:09,898 --> 00:39:11,498
You know?
He'll hate this.
His friends will have to find

1268
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,099
he'll hate this.
His friends will have to find
out that he still sneaks into

1269
00:39:13,101 --> 00:39:14,868
his friends will have to find
out that he still sneaks into
bed and wants to cuddle with me.

1270
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:16,369
Out that he still sneaks into
bed and wants to cuddle with me.
He's still affectionate.

1271
00:39:16,371 --> 00:39:18,338
Bed and wants to cuddle with me.
He's still affectionate.
He's good in school.

1272
00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:20,273
He's still affectionate.
He's good in school.
He's a little cutie pie, and

1273
00:39:20,275 --> 00:39:22,275
he's good in school.
He's a little cutie pie, and
all the girls are gonna be in

1274
00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:24,177
he's a little cutie pie, and
all the girls are gonna be in
trouble when he gets older.

1275
00:39:24,179 --> 00:39:25,445
All the girls are gonna be in
trouble when he gets older.
I think we're just gonna have to

1276
00:39:25,447 --> 00:39:26,613
trouble when he gets older.
I think we're just gonna have to
give him a little tiny scar up

1277
00:39:26,615 --> 00:39:27,680
I think we're just gonna have to
give him a little tiny scar up
here 'cause he's getting a

1278
00:39:27,682 --> 00:39:28,448
give him a little tiny scar up
here 'cause he's getting a
little too pretty.

1279
00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:31,251
Here 'cause he's getting a
little too pretty.
But -- [ laughs ]

1280
00:39:31,253 --> 00:39:34,054
little too pretty.
But -- [ laughs ]
but I -- god has blessed me with

1281
00:39:34,056 --> 00:39:36,089
but -- [ laughs ]
but I -- god has blessed me with
some pretty good kids.

1282
00:39:36,091 --> 00:39:39,392
But I -- god has blessed me with
some pretty good kids.
So, my son -- so, what I think

1283
00:39:39,394 --> 00:39:42,028
some pretty good kids.
So, my son -- so, what I think
the kids mostly have trouble

1284
00:39:42,030 --> 00:39:44,964
so, my son -- so, what I think
the kids mostly have trouble
with are that -- are the things.

1285
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:46,800
The kids mostly have trouble
with are that -- are the things.
They want all the things that

1286
00:39:46,802 --> 00:39:48,334
with are that -- are the things.
They want all the things that
everyone wants to have.

1287
00:39:48,336 --> 00:39:50,103
They want all the things that
everyone wants to have.
He's trying to buy some damn

1288
00:39:50,105 --> 00:39:52,005
everyone wants to have.
He's trying to buy some damn
"wheezy yeezies," whatever the

1289
00:39:52,007 --> 00:39:53,206
he's trying to buy some damn
"wheezy yeezies," whatever the
shoes are called.

1290
00:39:53,208 --> 00:39:54,974
"wheezy yeezies," whatever the
shoes are called.
Like, some orange -- I keep

1291
00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:56,810
shoes are called.
Like, some orange -- I keep
calling them flip-flops, but

1292
00:39:56,812 --> 00:39:57,977
like, some orange -- I keep
calling them flip-flops, but
they're sliders.

1293
00:39:57,979 --> 00:39:59,646
Calling them flip-flops, but
they're sliders.
And I'm like, "I'm not -- I'm

1294
00:39:59,648 --> 00:40:01,381
they're sliders.
And I'm like, "I'm not -- I'm
not spending like $300 on some

1295
00:40:01,383 --> 00:40:03,016
and I'm like, "I'm not -- I'm
not spending like $300 on some
ugly orange flip-flops.

1296
00:40:03,018 --> 00:40:04,217
Not spending like $300 on some
ugly orange flip-flops.
It's not happening."

1297
00:40:04,219 --> 00:40:05,952
ugly orange flip-flops.
It's not happening."
and they don't under-- you know,

1298
00:40:05,954 --> 00:40:07,487
it's not happening."
and they don't under-- you know,
I want to keep them grounded

1299
00:40:07,489 --> 00:40:09,155
and they don't under-- you know,
I want to keep them grounded
in some way, so that's my

1300
00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:10,123
I want to keep them grounded
in some way, so that's my
retaliation.

1301
00:40:10,125 --> 00:40:12,425
In some way, so that's my
retaliation.
I'm not buying no ugly shoes --

1302
00:40:12,427 --> 00:40:14,127
retaliation.
I'm not buying no ugly shoes --
overpriced ugly shoes.

1303
00:40:14,129 --> 00:40:17,330
I'm not buying no ugly shoes --
overpriced ugly shoes.
So, my advice to an actor, you

1304
00:40:17,332 --> 00:40:20,266
overpriced ugly shoes.
So, my advice to an actor, you
know, who wants to become a

1305
00:40:20,268 --> 00:40:23,470
so, my advice to an actor, you
know, who wants to become a
director is that first of all,

1306
00:40:23,472 --> 00:40:26,706
know, who wants to become a
director is that first of all,
if you're a...A really working

1307
00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:29,209
director is that first of all,
if you're a...A really working
actor, like, who's making money,

1308
00:40:29,211 --> 00:40:31,578
if you're a...A really working
actor, like, who's making money,
you may make less money in the

1309
00:40:31,580 --> 00:40:34,514
actor, like, who's making money,
you may make less money in the
beginning...But it'll be more

1310
00:40:34,516 --> 00:40:37,016
you may make less money in the
beginning...But it'll be more
consistent if it works out.

1311
00:40:37,018 --> 00:40:38,251
Beginning...But it'll be more
consistent if it works out.
Just...That's a little bit of

1312
00:40:38,253 --> 00:40:38,852
consistent if it works out.
Just...That's a little bit of
information.

1313
00:40:38,854 --> 00:40:42,822
Just...That's a little bit of
information.
But...It has to be something you

1314
00:40:42,824 --> 00:40:45,125
information.
But...It has to be something you
love, 'cause directing is the

1315
00:40:45,127 --> 00:40:47,627
but...It has to be something you
love, 'cause directing is the
hardest thing you're gonna do in

1316
00:40:47,629 --> 00:40:48,661
love, 'cause directing is the
hardest thing you're gonna do in
the world.

1317
00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:51,898
Hardest thing you're gonna do in
the world.
You have to be 100% in, and you

1318
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:54,134
the world.
You have to be 100% in, and you
have to do the work.

1319
00:40:54,136 --> 00:40:55,902
You have to be 100% in, and you
have to do the work.
It's nothing -- like, every

1320
00:40:55,904 --> 00:40:59,339
have to do the work.
It's nothing -- like, every
decision is yours, and it is --

1321
00:40:59,341 --> 00:41:02,509
it's nothing -- like, every
decision is yours, and it is --
it seems easy from the outside,

1322
00:41:02,511 --> 00:41:04,077
decision is yours, and it is --
it seems easy from the outside,
but it's not.

1323
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:07,614
It seems easy from the outside,
but it's not.
It is the most stressful job

1324
00:41:07,616 --> 00:41:09,949
but it's not.
It is the most stressful job
that you will ever have, because

1325
00:41:09,951 --> 00:41:13,486
it is the most stressful job
that you will ever have, because
at the end of the day, it's all

1326
00:41:13,488 --> 00:41:15,054
that you will ever have, because
at the end of the day, it's all
on your shoulders if it works or

1327
00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:15,455
at the end of the day, it's all
on your shoulders if it works or
not.

1328
00:41:15,457 --> 00:41:16,589
On your shoulders if it works or
not.
It doesn't matter if that script

1329
00:41:16,591 --> 00:41:16,856
not.
It doesn't matter if that script
is bad.

1330
00:41:18,225 --> 00:41:19,459
If it looks -- if it doesn't

1331
00:41:19,593 --> 00:41:20,960
look good, you're gonna get the

1332
00:41:21,095 --> 00:41:21,427
blame.

1333
00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:22,762
So, you really have to -- I

1334
00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:24,297
mean, honestly, you just have to

1335
00:41:24,431 --> 00:41:25,165
put in the work.

1336
00:41:25,299 --> 00:41:26,633
You have to do the research, you

1337
00:41:26,767 --> 00:41:28,134
need to shadow, you need to read

1338
00:41:28,269 --> 00:41:29,536
the books, you need to know as

1339
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:30,370
much as you can.

1340
00:41:30,504 --> 00:41:32,572
So, don't just jump in there

1341
00:41:32,706 --> 00:41:34,974
thinking the crew is gonna help

1342
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:35,575
you.

1343
00:41:35,709 --> 00:41:37,243
You have to do the work.

1344
00:41:37,378 --> 00:41:41,314
And if you're an actor of color,

1345
00:41:41,448 --> 00:41:43,183
it is your responsibility to be

1346
00:41:43,317 --> 00:41:43,483
the best.