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>> raven-symoné: I think there's
definitely a child-star curse.
I don't think I avoided it.
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Definitely a child-star curse.
I don't think I avoided it.
I think there are many type of
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I don't think I avoided it.
I think there are many type of
curses that happens with a
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I think there are many type of
curses that happens with a
child star.
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Curses that happens with a
child star.
The ones that the public sees
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child star.
The ones that the public sees
are, you know, drug addiction,
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the ones that the public sees
are, you know, drug addiction,
"my life is crap," you know,
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are, you know, drug addiction,
"my life is crap," you know,
"my parents stole my money" --
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"my life is crap," you know,
"my parents stole my money" --
that whole thing.
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"my parents stole my money" --
that whole thing.
Then there's another one.
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That whole thing.
Then there's another one.
That's a small group of
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then there's another one.
That's a small group of
child stars who had parents that
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that's a small group of
child stars who had parents that
did not steal from them, that,
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child stars who had parents that
did not steal from them, that,
you know, really have their head
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did not steal from them, that,
you know, really have their head
on straight.
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You know, really have their head
on straight.
Doesn't mean that we don't have
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on straight.
Doesn't mean that we don't have
issues.
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Doesn't mean that we don't have
issues.
Depression, mental instability,
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issues.
Depression, mental instability,
dissociation disorder -- a very
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depression, mental instability,
dissociation disorder -- a very
skewed way of understanding
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dissociation disorder -- a very
skewed way of understanding
that we are now -- well, that
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skewed way of understanding
that we are now -- well, that
I'm now an adult.
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That we are now -- well, that
I'm now an adult.
I have a little bit of arrested
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I'm now an adult.
I have a little bit of arrested
development when it comes to
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I have a little bit of arrested
development when it comes to
that.
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Development when it comes to
that.
At times, I feel 70 years old,
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that.
At times, I feel 70 years old,
but then, at times, I feel
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at times, I feel 70 years old,
but then, at times, I feel
4 years old.
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But then, at times, I feel
4 years old.
I can be in a room full of
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4 years old.
I can be in a room full of
adults -- even though I'm an
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I can be in a room full of
adults -- even though I'm an
adult, I still call adults
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adults -- even though I'm an
adult, I still call adults
"adults."
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adult, I still call adults
"adults."
I can be in a room full of
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"adults."
I can be in a room full of
adults and be like, "y'all have
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I can be in a room full of
adults and be like, "y'all have
no idea what's going on,"
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adults and be like, "y'all have
no idea what's going on,"
because, at a very young age,
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no idea what's going on,"
because, at a very young age,
I was in a room full of adults
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because, at a very young age,
I was in a room full of adults
and had to act that way.
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I was in a room full of adults
and had to act that way.
And then there's...
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And had to act that way.
And then there's...
[ sighs ]
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and then there's...
[ sighs ]
it's -- it's deep, right?
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[ sighs ]
it's -- it's deep, right?
So, there's, um -- there's also
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it's -- it's deep, right?
So, there's, um -- there's also
that situation where you're
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so, there's, um -- there's also
that situation where you're
super young; you are on a show;
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that situation where you're
super young; you are on a show;
you know how much you're making,
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super young; you are on a show;
you know how much you're making,
you know what it comes with; you
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you know how much you're making,
you know what it comes with; you
know all the journeys; you
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you know what it comes with; you
know all the journeys; you
follow rules better than any
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know all the journeys; you
follow rules better than any
other child in your age bracket,
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follow rules better than any
other child in your age bracket,
whether in normal school or not,
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other child in your age bracket,
whether in normal school or not,
because it's a television show
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whether in normal school or not,
because it's a television show
and this is a business.
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Because it's a television show
and this is a business.
But at the same time, you have
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and this is a business.
But at the same time, you have
to go home, clean your room,
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but at the same time, you have
to go home, clean your room,
get in trouble, make sure
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to go home, clean your room,
get in trouble, make sure
you get a's.
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Get in trouble, make sure
you get a's.
And you're like, "but hold up.
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You get a's.
And you're like, "but hold up.
I make the money. I'm confused."
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and you're like, "but hold up.
I make the money. I'm confused."
but then you still have to,
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I make the money. I'm confused."
but then you still have to,
like, go into child-head.
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But then you still have to,
like, go into child-head.
So I think there is a different
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like, go into child-head.
So I think there is a different
kind of curse, again, that is
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so I think there is a different
kind of curse, again, that is
not as overt, but it does
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kind of curse, again, that is
not as overt, but it does
have friction in life, later.
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♪ got ma, got ma lyric ♪
every day of your life is a page
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♪ got ma, got ma lyric ♪
every day of your life is a page
in your book.
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Every day of your life is a page
in your book.
The person I am, my book is
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in your book.
The person I am, my book is
available for all to read
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the person I am, my book is
available for all to read
at all times.
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Available for all to read
at all times.
So if I don't want an
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at all times.
So if I don't want an
embarrassing chapter, get your
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so if I don't want an
embarrassing chapter, get your
[bleep] together and don't have
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embarrassing chapter, get your
[bleep] together and don't have
an embarrassing chapter.
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[bleep] together and don't have
an embarrassing chapter.
So, while that can lead to me
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an embarrassing chapter.
So, while that can lead to me
not going out and having a full
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so, while that can lead to me
not going out and having a full
21-year-old blow-out party or,
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not going out and having a full
21-year-old blow-out party or,
you know, get caught in the
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21-year-old blow-out party or,
you know, get caught in the
streets with my skirt up and
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you know, get caught in the
streets with my skirt up and
doin' some crazy [bleep], I'm at
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streets with my skirt up and
doin' some crazy [bleep], I'm at
home, making sure my chapters
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doin' some crazy [bleep], I'm at
home, making sure my chapters
are good, and grinding.
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Home, making sure my chapters
are good, and grinding.
So there's a way out.
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Are good, and grinding.
So there's a way out.
Don't get it twisted.
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So there's a way out.
Don't get it twisted.
I have my fun times.
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Don't get it twisted.
I have my fun times.
I just have them in my own house
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I have my fun times.
I just have them in my own house
with an nda before people come
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I just have them in my own house
with an nda before people come
in, 'cause, honey, if you talk
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with an nda before people come
in, 'cause, honey, if you talk
to a couple people in l.A., they
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in, 'cause, honey, if you talk
to a couple people in l.A., they
know about my house parties.
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To a couple people in l.A., they
know about my house parties.
So it's not a game.
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Know about my house parties.
So it's not a game.
I know how to get through it.
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So it's not a game.
I know how to get through it.
But I'm also not the one that
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I know how to get through it.
But I'm also not the one that
searches out for the paparazzi,
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but I'm also not the one that
searches out for the paparazzi,
'cause I know what can happen.
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Searches out for the paparazzi,
'cause I know what can happen.
And you see it every day.
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'cause I know what can happen.
And you see it every day.
And I'll probably get my ass
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and you see it every day.
And I'll probably get my ass
whupped by my mama if anything
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and I'll probably get my ass
whupped by my mama if anything
comes out like that, and I'm 35,
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whupped by my mama if anything
comes out like that, and I'm 35,
so I don't really have time
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comes out like that, and I'm 35,
so I don't really have time
for that.
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So I don't really have time
for that.
I got [bleep] to do.
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For that.
I got [bleep] to do.
The story goes that when I was
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I got [bleep] to do.
The story goes that when I was
being pushed in a stroller,
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the story goes that when I was
being pushed in a stroller,
people used to think I was
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being pushed in a stroller,
people used to think I was
a doll, and so my parents got me
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people used to think I was
a doll, and so my parents got me
into modeling.
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A doll, and so my parents got me
into modeling.
You know, my father really loved
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into modeling.
You know, my father really loved
"the cosby show," my mother
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you know, my father really loved
"the cosby show," my mother
really loved "the cosby show,"
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"the cosby show," my mother
really loved "the cosby show,"
so they watched it a lot.
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Really loved "the cosby show,"
so they watched it a lot.
And the story goes -- I have
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so they watched it a lot.
And the story goes -- I have
no clue -- I don't remember --
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and the story goes -- I have
no clue -- I don't remember --
but that I got up one day and I
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no clue -- I don't remember --
but that I got up one day and I
said, "I can do what rudy
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but that I got up one day and I
said, "I can do what rudy
can do."
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said, "I can do what rudy
can do."
and sohey sold everything they
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can do."
and sohey sold everything they
had, got in this car, which I
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and sohey sold everything they
had, got in this car, which I
kinda remember, because I sat in
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had, got in this car, which I
kinda remember, because I sat in
the back seat and it had these
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kinda remember, because I sat in
the back seat and it had these
wings on the -- on the, uh,
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the back seat and it had these
wings on the -- on the, uh,
back window.
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Wings on the -- on the, uh,
back window.
Super 1980s car.
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Back window.
Super 1980s car.
I don't know what it was, but it
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super 1980s car.
I don't know what it was, but it
was not my favorite to sit in
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I don't know what it was, but it
was not my favorite to sit in
the back, 'cause it wasn't
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was not my favorite to sit in
the back, 'cause it wasn't
a seat.
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The back, 'cause it wasn't
a seat.
Anyway, drove to new york,
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a seat.
Anyway, drove to new york,
signed with elite modeling
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anyway, drove to new york,
signed with elite modeling
agency, went on a lot of
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signed with elite modeling
agency, went on a lot of
different auditions, lived in
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agency, went on a lot of
different auditions, lived in
queens -- not very high-end.
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Different auditions, lived in
queens -- not very high-end.
We didn't have a lot of money,
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queens -- not very high-end.
We didn't have a lot of money,
so beanee weenees was my
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we didn't have a lot of money,
so beanee weenees was my
favorite meal in a little pot --
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so beanee weenees was my
favorite meal in a little pot --
hot dogs and baked beans.
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Favorite meal in a little pot --
hot dogs and baked beans.
And, um, you know, really
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hot dogs and baked beans.
And, um, you know, really
pushed.
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And, um, you know, really
pushed.
My dad really wanted to make
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pushed.
My dad really wanted to make
sure that the world knew my
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my dad really wanted to make
sure that the world knew my
name, not just my character
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sure that the world knew my
name, not just my character
name.
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Name, not just my character
name.
So, every opportunity that came
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name.
So, every opportunity that came
across our desk, as long as it
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so, every opportunity that came
across our desk, as long as it
really furthered the brand of
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across our desk, as long as it
really furthered the brand of
raven-symoné, he took.
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Really furthered the brand of
raven-symoné, he took.
And I was right there, learning
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raven-symoné, he took.
And I was right there, learning
my lines, making sure I
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and I was right there, learning
my lines, making sure I
performed.
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My lines, making sure I
performed.
As my parents said, it's time to
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performed.
As my parents said, it's time to
razzle-dazzle.
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As my parents said, it's time to
razzle-dazzle.
So, that -- if anybody says that
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razzle-dazzle.
So, that -- if anybody says that
to me, I go, "hey, what's up?
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So, that -- if anybody says that
to me, I go, "hey, what's up?
How are you? Nice to see you."
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like, I turn it on in a weird
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way, which I'm learning
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how not to anymore.
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But, yeah.
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My memory of childhood really
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starts with the blue flooring
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on "the cosby show," walking
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into the studio, and the smell
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of the sawdust at the studio
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itself.
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Minimal, minimal memories of
school.
A few memories of the place
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school.
A few memories of the place
where I lived in new york.
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A few memories of the place
where I lived in new york.
But mostly just blacked out.
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Where I lived in new york.
But mostly just blacked out.
I have to be honest.
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But mostly just blacked out.
I have to be honest.
My memory of my childhood in the
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I have to be honest.
My memory of my childhood in the
industry is very minimal.
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My memory of my childhood in the
industry is very minimal.
I have association disorder.
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Industry is very minimal.
I have association disorder.
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I have association disorder.
[ chuckles ]
I tend to forget stuff quickly,
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[ chuckles ]
I tend to forget stuff quickly,
except for scripts and how much
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I tend to forget stuff quickly,
except for scripts and how much
that check is.
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Except for scripts and how much
that check is.
I think I forget a lot of my
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that check is.
I think I forget a lot of my
childhood because it was
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I think I forget a lot of my
childhood because it was
intertwined with so many
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childhood because it was
intertwined with so many
personal journeys and, uh,
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intertwined with so many
personal journeys and, uh,
things that I just kind of want
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personal journeys and, uh,
things that I just kind of want
to forget in general, plus jobs.
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Things that I just kind of want
to forget in general, plus jobs.
Being young on a set, and having
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to forget in general, plus jobs.
Being young on a set, and having
to learn upwards of 20 pages of
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being young on a set, and having
to learn upwards of 20 pages of
script each week, and then
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to learn upwards of 20 pages of
script each week, and then
purging to learn another 20
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script each week, and then
purging to learn another 20
pages each week, kind of preps
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purging to learn another 20
pages each week, kind of preps
the brain for just keeping what
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pages each week, kind of preps
the brain for just keeping what
it needs to.
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The brain for just keeping what
it needs to.
So it's not very pleasurable
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it needs to.
So it's not very pleasurable
now, 'cause I get asked, "hey,
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so it's not very pleasurable
now, 'cause I get asked, "hey,
do you remember me?"
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now, 'cause I get asked, "hey,
do you remember me?"
I'm like, "mm-hmm."
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do you remember me?"
I'm like, "mm-hmm."
so, when I was younger, on
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I'm like, "mm-hmm."
so, when I was younger, on
"the cosby show," they would
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so, when I was younger, on
"the cosby show," they would
bring us a script on Monday.
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"the cosby show," they would
bring us a script on Monday.
My parents would read me the
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bring us a script on Monday.
My parents would read me the
script at night, and my lines,
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my parents would read me the
script at night, and my lines,
every night before I went to
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script at night, and my lines,
every night before I went to
sleep.
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Every night before I went to
sleep.
And my prayer was, "now I lay me
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sleep.
And my prayer was, "now I lay me
down to sleep.
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And my prayer was, "now I lay me
down to sleep.
I pray the lord my soul to keep.
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Down to sleep.
I pray the lord my soul to keep.
And if I die before I wake,
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I pray the lord my soul to keep.
And if I die before I wake,
I pray the lord my soul to take.
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And if I die before I wake,
I pray the lord my soul to take.
God bless mommy, god bless
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I pray the lord my soul to take.
God bless mommy, god bless
daddy, god bless grandmama,
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god bless mommy, god bless
daddy, god bless grandmama,
god bless grandma lulu.
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Daddy, god bless grandmama,
god bless grandma lulu.
Help me say my lines, help me
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god bless grandma lulu.
Help me say my lines, help me
concentrate on my lines, help me
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help me say my lines, help me
concentrate on my lines, help me
have a beautiful smile.
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Concentrate on my lines, help me
have a beautiful smile.
Good night."
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have a beautiful smile.
Good night."
that would be the last thing
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good night."
that would be the last thing
I said to sleep, and then I'd
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that would be the last thing
I said to sleep, and then I'd
wake up, and I knew my lines,
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I said to sleep, and then I'd
wake up, and I knew my lines,
and that's just how I did it.
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Wake up, and I knew my lines,
and that's just how I did it.
So, prayer, [chuckles] I guess.
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And that's just how I did it.
So, prayer, [chuckles] I guess.
I think, at a much younger age,
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so, prayer, [chuckles] I guess.
I think, at a much younger age,
it was just, "this is
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I think, at a much younger age,
it was just, "this is
what we do.
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It was just, "this is
what we do.
This is who you're going to be.
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What we do.
This is who you're going to be.
You follow it, you listen, you
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this is who you're going to be.
You follow it, you listen, you
pay attention, and you practice.
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You follow it, you listen, you
pay attention, and you practice.
And the world is really
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pay attention, and you practice.
And the world is really
difficult, and we want to make
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and the world is really
difficult, and we want to make
sure that when you get older,
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difficult, and we want to make
sure that when you get older,
you're taken care of and you
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sure that when you get older,
you're taken care of and you
have a career that's, you know,
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you're taken care of and you
have a career that's, you know,
sustainable, in a way."
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have a career that's, you know,
sustainable, in a way."
and so I went along for the
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sustainable, in a way."
and so I went along for the
ride.
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And so I went along for the
ride.
I was told how much I was
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ride.
I was told how much I was
making.
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I was told how much I was
making.
I was told that I have taxes.
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Making.
I was told that I have taxes.
I was told that, "this is the
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I was told that I have taxes.
I was told that, "this is the
money you make, so you either
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I was told that, "this is the
money you make, so you either
stay in this industry or you
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money you make, so you either
stay in this industry or you
make 1/16 of this,
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stay in this industry or you
make 1/16 of this,
[chuckling] with a normal job.
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Make 1/16 of this,
[chuckling] with a normal job.
So what are you gonna do?"
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[chuckling] with a normal job.
So what are you gonna do?"
so it's like, "um, I'll do
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so what are you gonna do?"
so it's like, "um, I'll do
20 minutes of work."
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so it's like, "um, I'll do
20 minutes of work."
you know what I mean?
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20 minutes of work."
you know what I mean?
Yeah, do I have problems
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you know what I mean?
Yeah, do I have problems
sometimes, and I don't want to
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yeah, do I have problems
sometimes, and I don't want to
do the job, and I don't feel
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sometimes, and I don't want to
do the job, and I don't feel
like this is who I'm supposed to
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do the job, and I don't feel
like this is who I'm supposed to
be on an overall, 'cause this is
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like this is who I'm supposed to
be on an overall, 'cause this is
all I've ever done for the past
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be on an overall, 'cause this is
all I've ever done for the past
35 years?
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All I've ever done for the past
35 years?
Yeah, but I also know...
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35 years?
Yeah, but I also know...
That's just where I'm stuck.
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Yeah, but I also know...
That's just where I'm stuck.
If anybody wanted to get in the
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that's just where I'm stuck.
If anybody wanted to get in the
industry, I would say...
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If anybody wanted to get in the
industry, I would say...
Hollywood can be thicker than
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industry, I would say...
Hollywood can be thicker than
blood sometimes.
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Hollywood can be thicker than
blood sometimes.
And so...Be careful.
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Blood sometimes.
And so...Be careful.
Everybody has great intentions
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and so...Be careful.
Everybody has great intentions
when they come into the
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everybody has great intentions
when they come into the
industry.
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When they come into the
industry.
Everybody is like, "I'm gonna,
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industry.
Everybody is like, "I'm gonna,
you know, cater to my child,
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everybody is like, "I'm gonna,
you know, cater to my child,
I'm gonna make sure they're
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you know, cater to my child,
I'm gonna make sure they're
good, I'm gonna do this and
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I'm gonna make sure they're
good, I'm gonna do this and
do that."
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good, I'm gonna do this and
do that."
but there's a lot of stuff
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do that."
but there's a lot of stuff
involved.
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But there's a lot of stuff
involved.
There's a lot of egos involved.
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Involved.
There's a lot of egos involved.
There's a lot of greed involved
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there's a lot of egos involved.
There's a lot of greed involved
that might not bubble to the
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there's a lot of greed involved
that might not bubble to the
surface in a way that we
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that might not bubble to the
surface in a way that we
typically see.
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Surface in a way that we
typically see.
But it does change the dynamic
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typically see.
But it does change the dynamic
of parent and child.
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But it does change the dynamic
of parent and child.
No doubt about it.
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Of parent and child.
No doubt about it.
And I would never put my child
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no doubt about it.
And I would never put my child
in the industry until they were
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and I would never put my child
in the industry until they were
over the age of 15.
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In the industry until they were
over the age of 15.
I, um -- I wouldn't do it.
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Over the age of 15.
I, um -- I wouldn't do it.
And even then, I'd be like,
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I, um -- I wouldn't do it.
And even then, I'd be like,
"I think you should wait till
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and even then, I'd be like,
"I think you should wait till
you're 18, have a life, um,
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"I think you should wait till
you're 18, have a life, um,
because since the age of 3,
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you're 18, have a life, um,
because since the age of 3,
I don't know life is, other than
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because since the age of 3,
I don't know life is, other than
this."
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I don't know life is, other than
this."
and you think things are always
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this."
and you think things are always
greener on the other side.
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And you think things are always
greener on the other side.
So, when I turned 24, 25, I was
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greener on the other side.
So, when I turned 24, 25, I was
like, "I'm retired.
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So, when I turned 24, 25, I was
like, "I'm retired.
I'm gettin' out. I'm over it!"
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like, "I'm retired.
I'm gettin' out. I'm over it!"
and I left, and I sat on the
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I'm gettin' out. I'm over it!"
and I left, and I sat on the
couch, did what I needed to do,
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and I left, and I sat on the
couch, did what I needed to do,
and I was like, "um..."
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couch, did what I needed to do,
and I was like, "um..."
it's like I stopped walking,
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and I was like, "um..."
it's like I stopped walking,
'cause this is all I know.
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It's like I stopped walking,
'cause this is all I know.
So I went back, 'cause it's just
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'cause this is all I know.
So I went back, 'cause it's just
easier.
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So I went back, 'cause it's just
easier.
So it's like, you know, I-I just
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easier.
So it's like, you know, I-I just
wouldn't put my child in it
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so it's like, you know, I-I just
wouldn't put my child in it
as young as I was in it,
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wouldn't put my child in it
as young as I was in it,
that's all.
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>> raven-symoné: Yeah, I -- I
chose college because -- I mean,
the main reason is 'cause my
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chose college because -- I mean,
the main reason is 'cause my
mama was like, "yeah, you got a
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the main reason is 'cause my
mama was like, "yeah, you got a
show, yeah, you met this one,
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mama was like, "yeah, you got a
show, yeah, you met this one,
but you didn't go to college.
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Show, yeah, you met this one,
but you didn't go to college.
And everybody in the family did,
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but you didn't go to college.
And everybody in the family did,
except you."
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and everybody in the family did,
except you."
and I was like, "but I -- but
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except you."
and I was like, "but I -- but
I did --"
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and I was like, "but I -- but
I did --"
she went, "mnh-mnh."
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so I'm like, "okay, mom."
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and I needed to go to college,
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too, because, otherwise, I would
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just sit on my [bleep] on the
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couch.
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I needed something to do, to
grow my entertainment mind,
my artistic mind, and I always
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grow my entertainment mind,
my artistic mind, and I always
drew.
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My artistic mind, and I always
drew.
I drew on all of my scripts
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drew.
I drew on all of my scripts
when I was younger.
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I drew on all of my scripts
when I was younger.
My mom, when I was going through
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when I was younger.
My mom, when I was going through
a lot of stress during
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my mom, when I was going through
a lot of stress during
"hanging' with mr. Cooper,"
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a lot of stress during
"hanging' with mr. Cooper,"
I used to break out in
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"hanging' with mr. Cooper,"
I used to break out in
fever blisters and hives.
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I used to break out in
fever blisters and hives.
My mom would take me to do
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fever blisters and hives.
My mom would take me to do
pottery, and she took me to
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my mom would take me to do
pottery, and she took me to
art classes.
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Pottery, and she took me to
art classes.
And I really thrived.
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Art classes.
And I really thrived.
That's the first time, doing art
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and I really thrived.
That's the first time, doing art
on paper, in sculpture, that I
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that's the first time, doing art
on paper, in sculpture, that I
felt like, "oh, I'm worth more
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on paper, in sculpture, that I
felt like, "oh, I'm worth more
than just a character on a
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felt like, "oh, I'm worth more
than just a character on a
television show."
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than just a character on a
television show."
I have more to me than just
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television show."
I have more to me than just
being this little actress that
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I have more to me than just
being this little actress that
everybody's known since they
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being this little actress that
everybody's known since they
were 3, and I'm their
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everybody's known since they
were 3, and I'm their
little sister.
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Were 3, and I'm their
little sister.
So, that's what art does for me.
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Little sister.
So, that's what art does for me.
I've taken acting, like,
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so, that's what art does for me.
I've taken acting, like,
one-on-one classes for auditions
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I've taken acting, like,
one-on-one classes for auditions
later in life, which really made
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one-on-one classes for auditions
later in life, which really made
me understand that I am not a
356
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later in life, which really made
me understand that I am not a
dramatic actress.
357
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Me understand that I am not a
dramatic actress.
Don't do it.
358
00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,625
Dramatic actress.
Don't do it.
I don't like emotions.
359
00:10:26,627 --> 00:10:27,025
Don't do it.
I don't like emotions.
I tend to hide.
360
00:10:31,764 --> 00:10:36,868
>> raven-symoné: My parents had
to make, overtly efforts, to
make sure that I understood that
361
00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:38,536
to make, overtly efforts, to
make sure that I understood that
I was the child and that they
362
00:10:38,538 --> 00:10:40,205
make sure that I understood that
I was the child and that they
were the parent, because, at any
363
00:10:40,207 --> 00:10:41,840
I was the child and that they
were the parent, because, at any
time, with the responsibilities
364
00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:43,108
were the parent, because, at any
time, with the responsibilities
that one gets when on a
365
00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:44,609
time, with the responsibilities
that one gets when on a
television show, you can get
366
00:10:44,611 --> 00:10:45,343
that one gets when on a
television show, you can get
an ego.
367
00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:47,812
Television show, you can get
an ego.
There is an understanding
368
00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:50,515
an ego.
There is an understanding
that...
369
00:10:50,517 --> 00:10:52,884
There is an understanding
that...
It's not the same as just a
370
00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:54,386
that...
It's not the same as just a
normal kid that went to school,
371
00:10:54,388 --> 00:10:55,654
it's not the same as just a
normal kid that went to school,
and your parents did that.
372
00:10:55,656 --> 00:10:57,155
Normal kid that went to school,
and your parents did that.
But there is a little bit of a
373
00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:58,556
and your parents did that.
But there is a little bit of a
dynamic, and what that is, I
374
00:10:58,558 --> 00:10:59,991
but there is a little bit of a
dynamic, and what that is, I
haven't put my finger on yet,
375
00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:01,926
dynamic, and what that is, I
haven't put my finger on yet,
but it's -- it's an underlining
376
00:11:01,928 --> 00:11:02,527
haven't put my finger on yet,
but it's -- it's an underlining
thing.
377
00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:05,330
But it's -- it's an underlining
thing.
I'm -- no doubt about it.
378
00:11:05,332 --> 00:11:06,297
Thing.
I'm -- no doubt about it.
[ clicks tongue ]
379
00:11:06,299 --> 00:11:07,932
I'm -- no doubt about it.
[ clicks tongue ]
I can only tell you how the
380
00:11:07,934 --> 00:11:09,601
[ clicks tongue ]
I can only tell you how the
journey to "the cosby show"
381
00:11:09,603 --> 00:11:11,369
I can only tell you how the
journey to "the cosby show"
happened through folklore that
382
00:11:11,371 --> 00:11:13,271
journey to "the cosby show"
happened through folklore that
my parents told me how to answer
383
00:11:13,273 --> 00:11:14,773
happened through folklore that
my parents told me how to answer
that question when I was
384
00:11:14,775 --> 00:11:15,440
my parents told me how to answer
that question when I was
younger.
385
00:11:15,442 --> 00:11:18,843
That question when I was
younger.
Um, I do know that they grinded.
386
00:11:18,845 --> 00:11:20,545
Younger.
Um, I do know that they grinded.
My mom said she worked during
387
00:11:20,547 --> 00:11:22,414
um, I do know that they grinded.
My mom said she worked during
the night, and my dad took me to
388
00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:23,882
my mom said she worked during
the night, and my dad took me to
audition during the day,
389
00:11:23,884 --> 00:11:25,417
the night, and my dad took me to
audition during the day,
or vice versa.
390
00:11:25,419 --> 00:11:28,953
Audition during the day,
or vice versa.
Every night, understanding that,
391
00:11:28,955 --> 00:11:30,055
or vice versa.
Every night, understanding that,
"this is a job.
392
00:11:30,057 --> 00:11:31,289
Every night, understanding that,
"this is a job.
You can't mess up.
393
00:11:31,291 --> 00:11:32,657
"this is a job.
You can't mess up.
This is not for fun,
394
00:11:32,659 --> 00:11:33,692
you can't mess up.
This is not for fun,
but it is fun.
395
00:11:33,694 --> 00:11:36,027
This is not for fun,
but it is fun.
Make sure you respect people.
396
00:11:36,029 --> 00:11:37,328
But it is fun.
Make sure you respect people.
Don't do this, don't do that."
397
00:11:37,330 --> 00:11:39,731
make sure you respect people.
Don't do this, don't do that."
it was a lot of rules in place.
398
00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:41,566
Don't do this, don't do that."
it was a lot of rules in place.
You know, it's doing an album
399
00:11:41,568 --> 00:11:43,501
it was a lot of rules in place.
You know, it's doing an album
at 5, and staying in the studio
400
00:11:43,503 --> 00:11:45,804
you know, it's doing an album
at 5, and staying in the studio
until 2:00, 1:00 in the morning,
401
00:11:45,806 --> 00:11:47,338
at 5, and staying in the studio
until 2:00, 1:00 in the morning,
and you're 5 years old, knowing
402
00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:48,840
until 2:00, 1:00 in the morning,
and you're 5 years old, knowing
that this is the next step in
403
00:11:48,842 --> 00:11:50,375
and you're 5 years old, knowing
that this is the next step in
your career, so suck it up and
404
00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:51,109
that this is the next step in
your career, so suck it up and
let's do it.
405
00:11:51,111 --> 00:11:55,447
Your career, so suck it up and
let's do it.
Um, it's, you know, "whoosh."
406
00:11:55,449 --> 00:11:57,148
let's do it.
Um, it's, you know, "whoosh."
[ laughs ]
407
00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:58,450
um, it's, you know, "whoosh."
[ laughs ]
you just do what you got to do.
408
00:11:58,452 --> 00:12:00,418
[ laughs ]
you just do what you got to do.
Honestly, I don't remember.
409
00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,854
You just do what you got to do.
Honestly, I don't remember.
I don't remember working with --
410
00:12:02,856 --> 00:12:05,256
honestly, I don't remember.
I don't remember working with --
I don't remember a scene.
411
00:12:05,258 --> 00:12:08,827
I don't remember working with --
I don't remember a scene.
I don't remember...
412
00:12:08,829 --> 00:12:12,297
I don't remember a scene.
I don't remember...
Anything while it's a rehearsal
413
00:12:12,299 --> 00:12:13,164
I don't remember...
Anything while it's a rehearsal
or a camera.
414
00:12:13,166 --> 00:12:14,799
Anything while it's a rehearsal
or a camera.
I remember the smell of the
415
00:12:14,801 --> 00:12:16,468
or a camera.
I remember the smell of the
soul food coming out of his
416
00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:17,435
I remember the smell of the
soul food coming out of his
dressing room.
417
00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:21,106
Soul food coming out of his
dressing room.
I remember the -- okay, so, when
418
00:12:21,108 --> 00:12:23,007
dressing room.
I remember the -- okay, so, when
we opened the show, in front of
419
00:12:23,009 --> 00:12:24,909
I remember the -- okay, so, when
we opened the show, in front of
a live studio audience, you had
420
00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:26,811
we opened the show, in front of
a live studio audience, you had
to walk up these stairs, and we
421
00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:28,246
a live studio audience, you had
to walk up these stairs, and we
came down that classic
422
00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:29,047
to walk up these stairs, and we
came down that classic
staircase.
423
00:12:29,049 --> 00:12:31,382
Came down that classic
staircase.
I remember standing up there
424
00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:33,218
staircase.
I remember standing up there
and playing with the wood before
425
00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:34,052
I remember standing up there
and playing with the wood before
I went down.
426
00:12:34,054 --> 00:12:36,488
And playing with the wood before
I went down.
I do not remember as soon as the
427
00:12:36,490 --> 00:12:37,722
I went down.
I do not remember as soon as the
camera starts.
428
00:12:37,724 --> 00:12:41,860
I do not remember as soon as the
camera starts.
Something clicks off, and I do
429
00:12:41,862 --> 00:12:43,528
camera starts.
Something clicks off, and I do
what I'm trained to do.
430
00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:45,263
Something clicks off, and I do
what I'm trained to do.
Yeah, when I turned 18, I knew
431
00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:46,631
what I'm trained to do.
Yeah, when I turned 18, I knew
something was going on.
432
00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:48,399
Yeah, when I turned 18, I knew
something was going on.
So I started going to therapy.
433
00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:50,502
Something was going on.
So I started going to therapy.
And it's dissociation.
434
00:12:50,504 --> 00:12:53,138
So I started going to therapy.
And it's dissociation.
I just black out, I turn into
435
00:12:53,140 --> 00:12:54,372
and it's dissociation.
I just black out, I turn into
who I'm supposed to be when the
436
00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:57,642
I just black out, I turn into
who I'm supposed to be when the
camera's on, um, and then I come
437
00:12:57,644 --> 00:13:00,011
who I'm supposed to be when the
camera's on, um, and then I come
back to, and "normal life"
438
00:13:00,013 --> 00:13:01,012
camera's on, um, and then I come
back to, and "normal life"
resumes.
439
00:13:01,014 --> 00:13:03,381
Back to, and "normal life"
resumes.
Again, it's -- it's bottled up
440
00:13:03,383 --> 00:13:06,785
resumes.
Again, it's -- it's bottled up
with -- just bottled.
441
00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:08,787
Again, it's -- it's bottled up
with -- just bottled.
Bottled up. That's all.
442
00:13:08,789 --> 00:13:10,155
With -- just bottled.
Bottled up. That's all.
[ chuckles ]
443
00:13:10,157 --> 00:13:11,456
bottled up. That's all.
[ chuckles ]
I will say this -- that,
444
00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:12,957
[ chuckles ]
I will say this -- that,
you know, I don't necessarily
445
00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,292
I will say this -- that,
you know, I don't necessarily
remember what happened on
446
00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,260
you know, I don't necessarily
remember what happened on
"the cosby show."
447
00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:16,728
remember what happened on
"the cosby show."
however, every human --
448
00:13:16,730 --> 00:13:18,429
"the cosby show."
however, every human --
right? -- As you get older,
449
00:13:18,431 --> 00:13:23,201
however, every human --
right? -- As you get older,
you -- you subconsciously
450
00:13:23,203 --> 00:13:24,469
right? -- As you get older,
you -- you subconsciously
remember what happened when you
451
00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:25,737
you -- you subconsciously
remember what happened when you
were a kid, and you replay these
452
00:13:25,739 --> 00:13:26,304
remember what happened when you
were a kid, and you replay these
things out.
453
00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:28,139
Were a kid, and you replay these
things out.
So, working on "raven's home,"
454
00:13:28,141 --> 00:13:29,841
things out.
So, working on "raven's home,"
working with kids, I'm just
455
00:13:29,843 --> 00:13:31,676
so, working on "raven's home,"
working with kids, I'm just
doing this stuff, and I'm just
456
00:13:31,678 --> 00:13:33,511
working with kids, I'm just
doing this stuff, and I'm just
like, "oh, I wonder if this is
457
00:13:33,513 --> 00:13:34,879
doing this stuff, and I'm just
like, "oh, I wonder if this is
what happened to me."
458
00:13:34,881 --> 00:13:38,183
like, "oh, I wonder if this is
what happened to me."
it's so important to have a cast
459
00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:40,852
what happened to me."
it's so important to have a cast
that is jelled appropriately.
460
00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:42,787
It's so important to have a cast
that is jelled appropriately.
And with that, they place you
461
00:13:42,789 --> 00:13:44,656
that is jelled appropriately.
And with that, they place you
where you're supposed to be.
462
00:13:44,658 --> 00:13:45,757
And with that, they place you
where you're supposed to be.
They work with you.
463
00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:47,358
Where you're supposed to be.
They work with you.
Especially knowing that you're
464
00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,794
they work with you.
Especially knowing that you're
younger, I'm sure...
465
00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:51,029
Especially knowing that you're
younger, I'm sure...
I mean, I still have a great
466
00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:51,863
younger, I'm sure...
I mean, I still have a great
relationship with
467
00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:52,997
I mean, I still have a great
relationship with
malcolm-jamal warner, and
468
00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:54,032
relationship with
malcolm-jamal warner, and
I don't even know why.
469
00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:56,034
Malcolm-jamal warner, and
I don't even know why.
I just know that I adore him.
470
00:13:56,036 --> 00:13:57,535
I don't even know why.
I just know that I adore him.
I can't really tell you the
471
00:13:57,537 --> 00:13:58,436
I just know that I adore him.
I can't really tell you the
genesis of it.
472
00:13:58,438 --> 00:14:00,705
I can't really tell you the
genesis of it.
But I'm sure he helped me when
473
00:14:00,707 --> 00:14:02,740
genesis of it.
But I'm sure he helped me when
I needed it, and everyone,
474
00:14:02,742 --> 00:14:03,775
but I'm sure he helped me when
I needed it, and everyone,
vice versa.
475
00:14:03,777 --> 00:14:05,410
I needed it, and everyone,
vice versa.
So it's the camaraderie on set
476
00:14:05,412 --> 00:14:06,911
vice versa.
So it's the camaraderie on set
that happens when you have a
477
00:14:06,913 --> 00:14:07,946
so it's the camaraderie on set
that happens when you have a
family like that.
478
00:14:07,948 --> 00:14:10,315
That happens when you have a
family like that.
It's the understanding that my
479
00:14:10,317 --> 00:14:12,784
family like that.
It's the understanding that my
dad would not have it any other
480
00:14:12,786 --> 00:14:15,220
it's the understanding that my
dad would not have it any other
way, and like, "uh, get in your
481
00:14:15,222 --> 00:14:17,889
dad would not have it any other
way, and like, "uh, get in your
spot," and it's the discipline
482
00:14:17,891 --> 00:14:18,990
way, and like, "uh, get in your
spot," and it's the discipline
of it all.
483
00:14:18,992 --> 00:14:20,892
Spot," and it's the discipline
of it all.
I, without a doubt, believe
484
00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:22,327
of it all.
I, without a doubt, believe
that everyone was there for the
485
00:14:22,329 --> 00:14:23,728
I, without a doubt, believe
that everyone was there for the
betterment of the show, and the
486
00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:25,029
that everyone was there for the
betterment of the show, and the
betterment of the show is to
487
00:14:25,031 --> 00:14:26,497
betterment of the show, and the
betterment of the show is to
make sure your youngest castmate
488
00:14:26,499 --> 00:14:27,565
betterment of the show is to
make sure your youngest castmate
knows what's going on.
489
00:14:27,567 --> 00:14:29,033
Make sure your youngest castmate
knows what's going on.
But there was also the
490
00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:30,902
knows what's going on.
But there was also the
understanding that bill cosby
491
00:14:30,904 --> 00:14:32,904
but there was also the
understanding that bill cosby
doesn't always stick to scripts.
492
00:14:32,906 --> 00:14:35,306
Understanding that bill cosby
doesn't always stick to scripts.
So you have to listen in the
493
00:14:35,308 --> 00:14:37,408
doesn't always stick to scripts.
So you have to listen in the
scene and pay attention.
494
00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:39,244
So you have to listen in the
scene and pay attention.
And you know, you just got to --
495
00:14:39,246 --> 00:14:40,712
scene and pay attention.
And you know, you just got to --
you got to pay attention.
496
00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:44,249
And you know, you just got to --
you got to pay attention.
Only thing I'm scared of, in the
497
00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:46,451
you got to pay attention.
Only thing I'm scared of, in the
industry, is when I have to
498
00:14:46,453 --> 00:14:48,686
only thing I'm scared of, in the
industry, is when I have to
accept award or actually be
499
00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:51,022
industry, is when I have to
accept award or actually be
myself in front of something,
500
00:14:51,024 --> 00:14:52,857
accept award or actually be
myself in front of something,
because it's not scripted and I
501
00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:54,459
myself in front of something,
because it's not scripted and I
can't fall on the sword of,
502
00:14:54,461 --> 00:14:55,793
because it's not scripted and I
can't fall on the sword of,
"well, they wrote it.
503
00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:56,261
Can't fall on the sword of,
"well, they wrote it.
It's not my fault."
504
00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:04,302
>> raven-symoné: I think the
stress happened for
"hangin' with mr. Cooper"
505
00:15:04,304 --> 00:15:05,303
stress happened for
"hangin' with mr. Cooper"
because I did
506
00:15:05,305 --> 00:15:07,005
"hangin' with mr. Cooper"
because I did
"hangin' with mr. Cooper"
507
00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:08,373
because I did
"hangin' with mr. Cooper"
when I was 7 years old to
508
00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:09,173
"hangin' with mr. Cooper"
when I was 7 years old to
11 years old.
509
00:15:09,175 --> 00:15:11,042
When I was 7 years old to
11 years old.
At that time, the conversation
510
00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:12,877
11 years old.
At that time, the conversation
of weight started to come up,
511
00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:14,812
at that time, the conversation
of weight started to come up,
and, "don't eat this, don't eat
512
00:15:14,814 --> 00:15:16,814
of weight started to come up,
and, "don't eat this, don't eat
that," and you know, "you have
513
00:15:16,816 --> 00:15:18,750
and, "don't eat this, don't eat
that," and you know, "you have
to be on point," and it was a
514
00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:20,585
that," and you know, "you have
to be on point," and it was a
little bit more lackadaisical,
515
00:15:20,587 --> 00:15:24,589
to be on point," and it was a
little bit more lackadaisical,
and the stress of being around
516
00:15:24,591 --> 00:15:27,191
little bit more lackadaisical,
and the stress of being around
people that I'm more cognizant
517
00:15:27,193 --> 00:15:29,961
and the stress of being around
people that I'm more cognizant
of, because I'm not 3 years old.
518
00:15:29,963 --> 00:15:32,196
People that I'm more cognizant
of, because I'm not 3 years old.
And whatever stress 7-year-olds
519
00:15:32,198 --> 00:15:34,465
of, because I'm not 3 years old.
And whatever stress 7-year-olds
go through, like, in trying to
520
00:15:34,467 --> 00:15:36,401
and whatever stress 7-year-olds
go through, like, in trying to
be in a new school and be liked
521
00:15:36,403 --> 00:15:38,403
go through, like, in trying to
be in a new school and be liked
and whatever, let's magnify that
522
00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:40,271
be in a new school and be liked
and whatever, let's magnify that
by probably 30 on the fact of,
523
00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:41,706
and whatever, let's magnify that
by probably 30 on the fact of,
you can't mess up in front of a
524
00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:43,041
by probably 30 on the fact of,
you can't mess up in front of a
live studio audience, because
525
00:15:43,043 --> 00:15:44,442
you can't mess up in front of a
live studio audience, because
each show costs about a million
526
00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:45,276
live studio audience, because
each show costs about a million
dollars to make.
527
00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:46,511
Each show costs about a million
dollars to make.
So you just want to make sure
528
00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:47,512
dollars to make.
So you just want to make sure
that you don't mess up.
529
00:15:47,514 --> 00:15:49,580
So you just want to make sure
that you don't mess up.
I'm sure those thought processes
530
00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:51,449
that you don't mess up.
I'm sure those thought processes
started to permeate within my
531
00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:53,284
I'm sure those thought processes
started to permeate within my
body, making my stress level
532
00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:54,519
started to permeate within my
body, making my stress level
go up a lot more.
533
00:15:54,521 --> 00:15:57,088
Body, making my stress level
go up a lot more.
Yeah, at a younger age, when my
534
00:15:57,090 --> 00:16:00,391
go up a lot more.
Yeah, at a younger age, when my
weight started to -- when the
535
00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:01,859
yeah, at a younger age, when my
weight started to -- when the
conversation of weight started
536
00:16:01,861 --> 00:16:06,531
weight started to -- when the
conversation of weight started
to come into my head, I...
537
00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:10,101
Conversation of weight started
to come into my head, I...
Heard it, didn't understand it,
538
00:16:10,103 --> 00:16:11,769
to come into my head, I...
Heard it, didn't understand it,
did what I was told, but then,
539
00:16:11,771 --> 00:16:14,272
heard it, didn't understand it,
did what I was told, but then,
behind the scenes, ate...
540
00:16:14,274 --> 00:16:16,341
Did what I was told, but then,
behind the scenes, ate...
Because, looking back, that was
541
00:16:16,343 --> 00:16:17,375
behind the scenes, ate...
Because, looking back, that was
the only thing that I could
542
00:16:17,377 --> 00:16:18,710
because, looking back, that was
the only thing that I could
really control.
543
00:16:18,712 --> 00:16:20,645
The only thing that I could
really control.
It was the only thing that I had
544
00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:21,479
really control.
It was the only thing that I had
for myself.
545
00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:23,081
It was the only thing that I had
for myself.
My clothes were picked, the
546
00:16:23,083 --> 00:16:24,749
for myself.
My clothes were picked, the
words I was saying out of my
547
00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:26,417
my clothes were picked, the
words I was saying out of my
mouth were someone else's or
548
00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:28,052
words I was saying out of my
mouth were someone else's or
practiced multiple times --
549
00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:29,854
mouth were someone else's or
practiced multiple times --
interviews plus in front of the
550
00:16:29,856 --> 00:16:31,222
practiced multiple times --
interviews plus in front of the
camera.
551
00:16:31,224 --> 00:16:32,390
Interviews plus in front of the
camera.
Things were just really
552
00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:33,758
camera.
Things were just really
controlled because you're in
553
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,392
things were just really
controlled because you're in
hollywood.
554
00:16:34,394 --> 00:16:35,426
Controlled because you're in
hollywood.
That's what happens.
555
00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:36,928
Hollywood.
That's what happens.
So, food was pretty much the
556
00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:38,529
that's what happens.
So, food was pretty much the
only thing that I could, so my
557
00:16:38,531 --> 00:16:40,131
so, food was pretty much the
only thing that I could, so my
favorite was, like, two bagels
558
00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:41,366
only thing that I could, so my
favorite was, like, two bagels
with cream cheese and tomato in
559
00:16:41,368 --> 00:16:42,000
favorite was, like, two bagels
with cream cheese and tomato in
the microwave.
560
00:16:42,002 --> 00:16:43,201
With cream cheese and tomato in
the microwave.
And I just remember like, "she
561
00:16:43,203 --> 00:16:44,168
the microwave.
And I just remember like, "she
can't eat that anymore!"
562
00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:45,470
and I just remember like, "she
can't eat that anymore!"
and I'm like, "this is, like,
563
00:16:45,472 --> 00:16:46,237
can't eat that anymore!"
and I'm like, "this is, like,
the only thing.
564
00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:46,838
And I'm like, "this is, like,
the only thing.
I get a's.
565
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,139
The only thing.
I get a's.
Like, let me have something."
566
00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:50,074
I get a's.
Like, let me have something."
so it kind of got out of control
567
00:16:50,076 --> 00:16:51,976
like, let me have something."
so it kind of got out of control
because, as I got older, I could
568
00:16:51,978 --> 00:16:53,644
so it kind of got out of control
because, as I got older, I could
hide it, and just happened.
569
00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:54,846
Because, as I got older, I could
hide it, and just happened.
But I look back and I'm like,
570
00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:55,713
hide it, and just happened.
But I look back and I'm like,
"I wasn't even fat.
571
00:16:55,715 --> 00:16:56,381
But I look back and I'm like,
"I wasn't even fat.
I'm confused."
572
00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:57,348
"I wasn't even fat.
I'm confused."
[ laughs ]
573
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:58,950
I'm confused."
[ laughs ]
whatever.
574
00:16:58,952 --> 00:17:00,385
[ laughs ]
whatever.
Yeah, I lost 70 pounds.
575
00:17:00,387 --> 00:17:01,786
Whatever.
Yeah, I lost 70 pounds.
Um, I looked like a bobblehead
576
00:17:01,788 --> 00:17:03,087
yeah, I lost 70 pounds.
Um, I looked like a bobblehead
back then, when I look back.
577
00:17:03,089 --> 00:17:05,023
Um, I looked like a bobblehead
back then, when I look back.
I lost weight initially because
578
00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:06,724
back then, when I look back.
I lost weight initially because
my stress level went down.
579
00:17:06,726 --> 00:17:07,792
I lost weight initially because
my stress level went down.
The show ended.
580
00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:09,227
My stress level went down.
The show ended.
And I didn't have to worry about
581
00:17:09,229 --> 00:17:10,528
the show ended.
And I didn't have to worry about
anything, and things of that
582
00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:11,896
and I didn't have to worry about
anything, and things of that
nature, and it just kept going
583
00:17:11,898 --> 00:17:12,497
anything, and things of that
nature, and it just kept going
and going.
584
00:17:12,499 --> 00:17:14,232
Nature, and it just kept going
and going.
And then I actively did, you
585
00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:16,200
and going.
And then I actively did, you
know, things to make it go away.
586
00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:19,237
And then I actively did, you
know, things to make it go away.
But every single picture on the
587
00:17:19,239 --> 00:17:21,973
know, things to make it go away.
But every single picture on the
carpet, every single moment, I
588
00:17:21,975 --> 00:17:24,809
but every single picture on the
carpet, every single moment, I
was literally cussing everybody
589
00:17:24,811 --> 00:17:27,545
carpet, every single moment, I
was literally cussing everybody
out, because I remember that a
590
00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:29,313
was literally cussing everybody
out, because I remember that a
lot more people wanted to talk
591
00:17:29,315 --> 00:17:30,114
out, because I remember that a
lot more people wanted to talk
to me then.
592
00:17:30,116 --> 00:17:31,616
Lot more people wanted to talk
to me then.
I got a lot more magazine
593
00:17:31,618 --> 00:17:33,418
to me then.
I got a lot more magazine
offers, I got a lot more offers
594
00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,019
I got a lot more magazine
offers, I got a lot more offers
for [bleep], and I just was
595
00:17:35,021 --> 00:17:37,288
offers, I got a lot more offers
for [bleep], and I just was
like, "that's so rude.
596
00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:39,057
For [bleep], and I just was
like, "that's so rude.
That's so rude."
597
00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:40,958
like, "that's so rude.
That's so rude."
and I would just, like -- my
598
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,827
that's so rude."
and I would just, like -- my
outfits were like $15 on the
599
00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:43,528
and I would just, like -- my
outfits were like $15 on the
carpet.
600
00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:44,996
Outfits were like $15 on the
carpet.
I wore, like, the messiest wig
601
00:17:44,998 --> 00:17:46,431
carpet.
I wore, like, the messiest wig
I could, and I'm like, "y'all
602
00:17:46,433 --> 00:17:47,665
I wore, like, the messiest wig
I could, and I'm like, "y'all
are still talking to me?
603
00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:49,267
I could, and I'm like, "y'all
are still talking to me?
This is ridiculous.
604
00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:50,768
Are still talking to me?
This is ridiculous.
Hollywood is a hot mess.
605
00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,570
This is ridiculous.
Hollywood is a hot mess.
Because I lost that weight and
606
00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:54,439
hollywood is a hot mess.
Because I lost that weight and
you can feel sexually attracted
607
00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:57,041
because I lost that weight and
you can feel sexually attracted
to me in a weird way, you want
608
00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:59,210
you can feel sexually attracted
to me in a weird way, you want
to come talk to me now."
609
00:17:59,212 --> 00:18:01,012
to me in a weird way, you want
to come talk to me now."
I turned down a lot of stuff.
610
00:18:01,014 --> 00:18:02,480
To come talk to me now."
I turned down a lot of stuff.
I did a show when I was
611
00:18:02,482 --> 00:18:04,382
I turned down a lot of stuff.
I did a show when I was
small-er.
612
00:18:04,384 --> 00:18:05,950
I did a show when I was
small-er.
And I remember, someone in the
613
00:18:05,952 --> 00:18:07,518
small-er.
And I remember, someone in the
meeting, when I first went in,
614
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,986
and I remember, someone in the
meeting, when I first went in,
she was like, "oh, my god, I
615
00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:10,588
meeting, when I first went in,
she was like, "oh, my god, I
thought you were gonna be fat."
616
00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,423
she was like, "oh, my god, I
thought you were gonna be fat."
and I said, "you know how long
617
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:13,858
thought you were gonna be fat."
and I said, "you know how long
it took me to do this?
618
00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:15,827
And I said, "you know how long
it took me to do this?
Thanks. Thank you so much."
619
00:18:15,829 --> 00:18:17,295
it took me to do this?
Thanks. Thank you so much."
but I got a show, so here we go.
620
00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:18,563
Thanks. Thank you so much."
but I got a show, so here we go.
I wore a fat suit, the first
621
00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:19,897
but I got a show, so here we go.
I wore a fat suit, the first
couple episodes, because I was
622
00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:21,232
I wore a fat suit, the first
couple episodes, because I was
too skinny for the first time
623
00:18:21,234 --> 00:18:21,833
couple episodes, because I was
too skinny for the first time
in my life.
624
00:18:21,835 --> 00:18:23,701
Too skinny for the first time
in my life.
So, there's just, like, a lot of
625
00:18:23,703 --> 00:18:25,636
in my life.
So, there's just, like, a lot of
stuff surrounded by weight,
626
00:18:25,638 --> 00:18:27,338
so, there's just, like, a lot of
stuff surrounded by weight,
for me, that's not very
627
00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:28,372
stuff surrounded by weight,
for me, that's not very
pleasurable.
628
00:18:28,374 --> 00:18:30,208
For me, that's not very
pleasurable.
And I probably -- even though
629
00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:32,176
pleasurable.
And I probably -- even though
I'm losing weight now, it's for
630
00:18:32,178 --> 00:18:33,478
and I probably -- even though
I'm losing weight now, it's for
a different reason.
631
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,046
I'm losing weight now, it's for
a different reason.
And I'm doing it on my own
632
00:18:35,048 --> 00:18:36,647
a different reason.
And I'm doing it on my own
terms, not because somebody
633
00:18:36,649 --> 00:18:38,449
and I'm doing it on my own
terms, not because somebody
wants to have a show with me or
634
00:18:38,451 --> 00:18:39,884
terms, not because somebody
wants to have a show with me or
wants to add me to their
635
00:18:39,886 --> 00:18:41,452
wants to have a show with me or
wants to add me to their
magazine, all of a sudden.
636
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,154
Wants to add me to their
magazine, all of a sudden.
'cause they weren't doing that
637
00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:43,721
magazine, all of a sudden.
'cause they weren't doing that
before.
638
00:18:43,723 --> 00:18:45,389
'cause they weren't doing that
before.
Yeah, I do have a
639
00:18:45,391 --> 00:18:47,191
before.
Yeah, I do have a
little bit/huge chip
640
00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:49,627
yeah, I do have a
little bit/huge chip
on my shoulder, because,
641
00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:54,365
little bit/huge chip
on my shoulder, because,
between the ages of 15 and 24,
642
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,835
on my shoulder, because,
between the ages of 15 and 24,
I was ridiculed and bullied
643
00:18:57,837 --> 00:19:00,104
between the ages of 15 and 24,
I was ridiculed and bullied
for my weight and size.
644
00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:03,207
I was ridiculed and bullied
for my weight and size.
I find a way to feel comfortable
645
00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:06,410
for my weight and size.
I find a way to feel comfortable
in my skin, and now everybody's
646
00:19:06,412 --> 00:19:07,845
I find a way to feel comfortable
in my skin, and now everybody's
okay with it, but nobody's
647
00:19:07,847 --> 00:19:09,347
in my skin, and now everybody's
okay with it, but nobody's
coming back and looking back
648
00:19:09,349 --> 00:19:11,048
okay with it, but nobody's
coming back and looking back
like, "oh, she was there."
649
00:19:11,050 --> 00:19:12,383
coming back and looking back
like, "oh, she was there."
you know, other people will get
650
00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:13,184
like, "oh, she was there."
you know, other people will get
the recognition.
651
00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:14,118
You know, other people will get
the recognition.
And I'm egotistical.
652
00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,153
The recognition.
And I'm egotistical.
Listen, I just want the
653
00:19:15,155 --> 00:19:15,786
and I'm egotistical.
Listen, I just want the
recognition.
654
00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:18,523
Listen, I just want the
recognition.
I was big and thick before all
655
00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:19,724
recognition.
I was big and thick before all
these big-and-thick ones were
656
00:19:19,726 --> 00:19:20,725
I was big and thick before all
these big-and-thick ones were
out here on tv shows and
657
00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:21,192
these big-and-thick ones were
out here on tv shows and
[bleep].
658
00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:22,393
Out here on tv shows and
[bleep].
I'm just sayin', I was there,
659
00:19:22,395 --> 00:19:23,728
[bleep].
I'm just sayin', I was there,
but I'm not gonna get the credit
660
00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:24,162
I'm just sayin', I was there,
but I'm not gonna get the credit
for it.
661
00:19:24,164 --> 00:19:25,229
But I'm not gonna get the credit
for it.
And that's okay.
662
00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:26,931
For it.
And that's okay.
I'm working on it in therapy.
663
00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,701
And that's okay.
I'm working on it in therapy.
I feel like it's fantastic that
664
00:19:30,703 --> 00:19:31,936
I'm working on it in therapy.
I feel like it's fantastic that
the world is coming around,
665
00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:33,104
I feel like it's fantastic that
the world is coming around,
realizing that you can be
666
00:19:33,106 --> 00:19:34,138
the world is coming around,
realizing that you can be
in the skin you're in.
667
00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:35,673
Realizing that you can be
in the skin you're in.
As long as you're healthy,
668
00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:36,974
in the skin you're in.
As long as you're healthy,
I think it's amazing.
669
00:19:36,976 --> 00:19:38,809
As long as you're healthy,
I think it's amazing.
But it sucked, being in the
670
00:19:38,811 --> 00:19:40,945
I think it's amazing.
But it sucked, being in the
industry during the 2000s, when,
671
00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:42,813
but it sucked, being in the
industry during the 2000s, when,
you know, you had all these
672
00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:44,815
industry during the 2000s, when,
you know, you had all these
skinny minnies out here making
673
00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:47,018
you know, you had all these
skinny minnies out here making
journeys, and you know, you
674
00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:49,387
skinny minnies out here making
journeys, and you know, you
don't get that, and you're on
675
00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:50,855
journeys, and you know, you
don't get that, and you're on
blogs, and people are calling
676
00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:52,456
don't get that, and you're on
blogs, and people are calling
you all kinds of things, and you
677
00:19:52,458 --> 00:19:53,824
blogs, and people are calling
you all kinds of things, and you
had you mama calling you up
678
00:19:53,826 --> 00:19:54,926
you all kinds of things, and you
had you mama calling you up
like, "you need to lose weight,
679
00:19:54,928 --> 00:19:55,793
had you mama calling you up
like, "you need to lose weight,
because they're talking
680
00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:56,294
like, "you need to lose weight,
because they're talking
about you."
681
00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:57,695
because they're talking
about you."
I'm like, "I'm -- I'm gonna eat
682
00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:59,263
about you."
I'm like, "I'm -- I'm gonna eat
this in-n-out, and I'm gonna sit
683
00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:00,464
I'm like, "I'm -- I'm gonna eat
this in-n-out, and I'm gonna sit
here and be super happy.
684
00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:01,599
This in-n-out, and I'm gonna sit
here and be super happy.
Y'all gonna have to figure it
685
00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:02,433
here and be super happy.
Y'all gonna have to figure it
out for yourselves.
686
00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:03,267
Y'all gonna have to figure it
out for yourselves.
I'm not gonna do it.
687
00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:03,701
Out for yourselves.
I'm not gonna do it.
Kiss my [bleep]."
688
00:20:09,274 --> 00:20:13,611
>> raven-symoné: I am definitely
a big auntie when it comes to
the kids that I work with.
689
00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:16,681
A big auntie when it comes to
the kids that I work with.
I do worry about them.
690
00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:18,149
The kids that I work with.
I do worry about them.
I do have my thoughts that
691
00:20:18,151 --> 00:20:19,884
I do worry about them.
I do have my thoughts that
they'll never know about what's
692
00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:21,586
I do have my thoughts that
they'll never know about what's
happening in their lifestyle --
693
00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:23,054
they'll never know about what's
happening in their lifestyle --
you know what I mean? -- Because
694
00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:24,422
happening in their lifestyle --
you know what I mean? -- Because
that's not my position to say
695
00:20:24,424 --> 00:20:24,989
you know what I mean? -- Because
that's not my position to say
anything.
696
00:20:24,991 --> 00:20:25,590
That's not my position to say
anything.
But I do.
697
00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:26,691
Anything.
But I do.
I look at the signs.
698
00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:28,226
But I do.
I look at the signs.
There are some that listen and
699
00:20:28,228 --> 00:20:29,794
I look at the signs.
There are some that listen and
some that don't, and that's the
700
00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:30,895
there are some that listen and
some that don't, and that's the
way the world works.
701
00:20:30,897 --> 00:20:32,897
Some that don't, and that's the
way the world works.
But, ultimately, I give everyone
702
00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:34,899
way the world works.
But, ultimately, I give everyone
the same advice, I give everyone
703
00:20:34,901 --> 00:20:37,101
but, ultimately, I give everyone
the same advice, I give everyone
the same, you know, cards.
704
00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:39,604
The same advice, I give everyone
the same, you know, cards.
And that is, one thing they'll
705
00:20:39,606 --> 00:20:40,571
the same, you know, cards.
And that is, one thing they'll
tell you as a kid is,
706
00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:41,305
and that is, one thing they'll
tell you as a kid is,
"you're a kid.
707
00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:42,673
Tell you as a kid is,
"you're a kid.
Work as hard as you can now, and
708
00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:43,808
"you're a kid.
Work as hard as you can now, and
you can sleep later, when
709
00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:44,442
work as hard as you can now, and
you can sleep later, when
you're old."
710
00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:46,043
you can sleep later, when
you're old."
it is misconception, and it is
711
00:20:46,045 --> 00:20:46,677
you're old."
it is misconception, and it is
not fair.
712
00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:48,379
It is misconception, and it is
not fair.
Just because we're young doesn't
713
00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:49,814
not fair.
Just because we're young doesn't
mean you can work us to the
714
00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:50,281
just because we're young doesn't
mean you can work us to the
bone.
715
00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:51,649
Mean you can work us to the
bone.
They say, "oh, you're young.
716
00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:52,750
Bone.
They say, "oh, you're young.
You have the energy."
717
00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,018
they say, "oh, you're young.
You have the energy."
"no, I don't. I'm a human.
718
00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:54,785
You have the energy."
"no, I don't. I'm a human.
Leave me be."
719
00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:55,886
"no, I don't. I'm a human.
Leave me be."
they will work you because
720
00:20:55,888 --> 00:20:57,188
leave me be."
they will work you because
you're trying to build a brand,
721
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:58,256
they will work you because
you're trying to build a brand,
so you got to go, go, go,
722
00:20:58,258 --> 00:20:58,689
you're trying to build a brand,
so you got to go, go, go,
go, go.
723
00:20:58,691 --> 00:21:00,791
So you got to go, go, go,
go, go.
No, take a vacation.
724
00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:03,261
Go, go.
No, take a vacation.
Stop and enjoy life, 'cause
725
00:21:03,263 --> 00:21:04,929
no, take a vacation.
Stop and enjoy life, 'cause
when you're that young and
726
00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:06,764
stop and enjoy life, 'cause
when you're that young and
you're good, they'll work you
727
00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:08,699
when you're that young and
you're good, they'll work you
until you are absolutely crazy.
728
00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:12,637
You're good, they'll work you
until you are absolutely crazy.
And it's no one's fault but the
729
00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:13,871
until you are absolutely crazy.
And it's no one's fault but the
beautiful carrot that gets
730
00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,573
and it's no one's fault but the
beautiful carrot that gets
put in your face on an everyday
731
00:21:15,575 --> 00:21:16,107
beautiful carrot that gets
put in your face on an everyday
basis.
732
00:21:16,109 --> 00:21:17,808
Put in your face on an everyday
basis.
And then, if you're not smart
733
00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,543
basis.
And then, if you're not smart
enough, and you don't have the
734
00:21:19,545 --> 00:21:21,512
and then, if you're not smart
enough, and you don't have the
foundation, you continue to
735
00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:23,648
enough, and you don't have the
foundation, you continue to
follow a carrot even when your
736
00:21:23,650 --> 00:21:24,749
foundation, you continue to
follow a carrot even when your
time is done.
737
00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,117
Follow a carrot even when your
time is done.
Then, you have that journey of
738
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,518
time is done.
Then, you have that journey of
people like, "why are you still
739
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,019
then, you have that journey of
people like, "why are you still
working?
740
00:21:28,021 --> 00:21:28,753
People like, "why are you still
working?
Go sit down."
741
00:21:28,755 --> 00:21:29,754
working?
Go sit down."
you know what I mean?
742
00:21:29,756 --> 00:21:31,422
Go sit down."
you know what I mean?
Like, you have to be okay with
743
00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:32,823
you know what I mean?
Like, you have to be okay with
disappearing for a while,
744
00:21:32,825 --> 00:21:34,325
like, you have to be okay with
disappearing for a while,
because this -- hopefully,
745
00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:35,926
disappearing for a while,
because this -- hopefully,
you'll have a very long life.
746
00:21:35,928 --> 00:21:37,295
Because this -- hopefully,
you'll have a very long life.
So sit down, go get married,
747
00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:38,729
you'll have a very long life.
So sit down, go get married,
enjoy your life, and then come
748
00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:39,130
so sit down, go get married,
enjoy your life, and then come
back.
749
00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:40,197
Enjoy your life, and then come
back.
You know what I mean?
750
00:21:40,199 --> 00:21:42,033
Back.
You know what I mean?
And I think, a lot of the times,
751
00:21:42,035 --> 00:21:43,167
you know what I mean?
And I think, a lot of the times,
the rat race, especially now
752
00:21:43,169 --> 00:21:44,402
and I think, a lot of the times,
the rat race, especially now
with the social -- "I got to be
753
00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:45,403
the rat race, especially now
with the social -- "I got to be
on it, I got to be on it,
754
00:21:45,405 --> 00:21:46,537
with the social -- "I got to be
on it, I got to be on it,
I got to be on it" -- you're
755
00:21:46,539 --> 00:21:47,538
on it, I got to be on it,
I got to be on it" -- you're
gonna burn yourself out.
756
00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:48,873
I got to be on it" -- you're
gonna burn yourself out.
I tell them this.
757
00:21:48,875 --> 00:21:50,141
Gonna burn yourself out.
I tell them this.
I let them know.
758
00:21:50,143 --> 00:21:51,309
I tell them this.
I let them know.
I'm like, "you need to make sure
759
00:21:51,311 --> 00:21:52,343
I let them know.
I'm like, "you need to make sure
you know what's going on with
760
00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:53,377
I'm like, "you need to make sure
you know what's going on with
your money; you need to make
761
00:21:53,379 --> 00:21:54,512
you know what's going on with
your money; you need to make
sure that you know what's going
762
00:21:54,514 --> 00:21:55,646
your money; you need to make
sure that you know what's going
on with your paperwork; you need
763
00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:56,814
sure that you know what's going
on with your paperwork; you need
to make sure you understand that
764
00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:59,016
on with your paperwork; you need
to make sure you understand that
at a certain age, there's gonna
765
00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:00,918
to make sure you understand that
at a certain age, there's gonna
be that weird parent-child
766
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,654
at a certain age, there's gonna
be that weird parent-child
dynamic situation where you got
767
00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,256
be that weird parent-child
dynamic situation where you got
to, like, "hmm."
768
00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:07,758
dynamic situation where you got
to, like, "hmm."
you have to -- you have to take
769
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,560
to, like, "hmm."
you have to -- you have to take
control of your life.
770
00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,962
You have to -- you have to take
control of your life.
And when you have family and
771
00:22:11,964 --> 00:22:14,165
control of your life.
And when you have family and
work together, you got to
772
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,734
and when you have family and
work together, you got to
figure that out, and sometimes
773
00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:17,802
work together, you got to
figure that out, and sometimes
it can be difficult, and
774
00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:18,736
figure that out, and sometimes
it can be difficult, and
sometimes it's easy.
775
00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:20,571
It can be difficult, and
sometimes it's easy.
There's a couple stages.
776
00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:22,873
Sometimes it's easy.
There's a couple stages.
I made sure that my progression
777
00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:24,709
there's a couple stages.
I made sure that my progression
into adulthood is a slow
778
00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:26,711
I made sure that my progression
into adulthood is a slow
progression, so everyone's
779
00:22:26,713 --> 00:22:27,778
into adulthood is a slow
progression, so everyone's
comfortable.
780
00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:29,113
Progression, so everyone's
comfortable.
Uh, I'm very meticulous
781
00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:30,014
comfortable.
Uh, I'm very meticulous
in that sense.
782
00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:31,682
Uh, I'm very meticulous
in that sense.
I'll be with people like, "you
783
00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:32,783
in that sense.
I'll be with people like, "you
need to hurry up."
784
00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:34,452
I'll be with people like, "you
need to hurry up."
I'm like, "no, no, no, no, no."
785
00:22:34,454 --> 00:22:37,188
need to hurry up."
I'm like, "no, no, no, no, no."
so, it started at age 15.
786
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:39,724
I'm like, "no, no, no, no, no."
so, it started at age 15.
The next one was at 18.
787
00:22:39,726 --> 00:22:41,892
So, it started at age 15.
The next one was at 18.
The next one was at 25.
788
00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:43,661
The next one was at 18.
The next one was at 25.
I'm actually in the middle of
789
00:22:43,663 --> 00:22:44,662
the next one was at 25.
I'm actually in the middle of
one right now.
790
00:22:44,664 --> 00:22:47,565
I'm actually in the middle of
one right now.
And it's just a slow progression
791
00:22:47,567 --> 00:22:51,102
one right now.
And it's just a slow progression
of...Becoming an adult
792
00:22:51,104 --> 00:22:54,872
and it's just a slow progression
of...Becoming an adult
after 18 to 20-something years
793
00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:56,674
of...Becoming an adult
after 18 to 20-something years
of being a kid.
794
00:22:56,676 --> 00:22:58,075
After 18 to 20-something years
of being a kid.
And you know, normal kids do
795
00:22:58,077 --> 00:22:59,477
of being a kid.
And you know, normal kids do
that by going to college and
796
00:22:59,479 --> 00:23:00,778
and you know, normal kids do
that by going to college and
having their first year in
797
00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,313
that by going to college and
having their first year in
college, and then you're adult.
798
00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:03,881
Having their first year in
college, and then you're adult.
Like, this is different.
799
00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:05,416
College, and then you're adult.
Like, this is different.
This is a different world.
800
00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:06,817
Like, this is different.
This is a different world.
You can't do that here.
801
00:23:06,819 --> 00:23:08,285
This is a different world.
You can't do that here.
You got to, like, teach people
802
00:23:08,287 --> 00:23:09,553
you can't do that here.
You got to, like, teach people
how to treat you, because
803
00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,055
you got to, like, teach people
how to treat you, because
they've been used -- and that's
804
00:23:11,057 --> 00:23:12,456
how to treat you, because
they've been used -- and that's
not family, that's everybody
805
00:23:12,458 --> 00:23:13,157
they've been used -- and that's
not family, that's everybody
around you.
806
00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:14,692
Not family, that's everybody
around you.
You got to teach people how to
807
00:23:14,694 --> 00:23:16,260
around you.
You got to teach people how to
treat you, because they've been
808
00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:17,661
you got to teach people how to
treat you, because they've been
treating you as a child and
809
00:23:17,663 --> 00:23:18,796
treat you, because they've been
treating you as a child and
property for so long.
810
00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:20,364
Treating you as a child and
property for so long.
So it's like this weird -- it's
811
00:23:20,366 --> 00:23:21,298
property for so long.
So it's like this weird -- it's
a weird journey.
812
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:22,633
So it's like this weird -- it's
a weird journey.
But you do it slow.
813
00:23:22,635 --> 00:23:24,068
A weird journey.
But you do it slow.
You don't do it fast.
814
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:25,770
But you do it slow.
You don't do it fast.
You don't try to take it,
815
00:23:25,772 --> 00:23:27,638
you don't do it fast.
You don't try to take it,
'cause, at the same time, the
816
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,039
you don't try to take it,
'cause, at the same time, the
person has to learn.
817
00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:30,241
'cause, at the same time, the
person has to learn.
Like, I have to learn
818
00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:31,175
person has to learn.
Like, I have to learn
what taxes are.
819
00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:32,877
Like, I have to learn
what taxes are.
I have to learn how to deal with
820
00:23:32,879 --> 00:23:34,345
what taxes are.
I have to learn how to deal with
my money, 'cause I've been
821
00:23:34,347 --> 00:23:36,046
I have to learn how to deal with
my money, 'cause I've been
giving it to my business manager
822
00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:36,981
my money, 'cause I've been
giving it to my business manager
taking care of it.
823
00:23:36,983 --> 00:23:38,315
Giving it to my business manager
taking care of it.
And I'm like, "oh, how do you
824
00:23:38,317 --> 00:23:38,883
taking care of it.
And I'm like, "oh, how do you
do taxes?
825
00:23:38,885 --> 00:23:39,683
And I'm like, "oh, how do you
do taxes?
Okay, teach me.
826
00:23:39,685 --> 00:23:41,485
Do taxes?
Okay, teach me.
Oh, I understand now.
827
00:23:41,487 --> 00:23:42,353
Okay, teach me.
Oh, I understand now.
Let me do it."
828
00:23:42,355 --> 00:23:43,521
oh, I understand now.
Let me do it."
that's the conversation I had
829
00:23:43,523 --> 00:23:43,888
let me do it."
that's the conversation I had
at 29.
830
00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:45,055
That's the conversation I had
at 29.
I should have been knowing how
831
00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:46,223
at 29.
I should have been knowing how
to do that, but I'm over here
832
00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:47,491
I should have been knowing how
to do that, but I'm over here
making the money, so it's, like,
833
00:23:47,493 --> 00:23:48,025
to do that, but I'm over here
making the money, so it's, like,
a tradeoff.
834
00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:49,827
Making the money, so it's, like,
a tradeoff.
My mom -- she taught me how to
835
00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:50,628
a tradeoff.
My mom -- she taught me how to
save money.
836
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:53,998
My mom -- she taught me how to
save money.
Um, I get a check.
837
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,965
Save money.
Um, I get a check.
Half of it goes away.
838
00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:56,233
Um, I get a check.
Half of it goes away.
I never see it again, 'cause
839
00:23:56,235 --> 00:23:56,934
half of it goes away.
I never see it again, 'cause
it's invested.
840
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,135
I never see it again, 'cause
it's invested.
And half of it comes to me.
841
00:23:58,137 --> 00:23:59,303
It's invested.
And half of it comes to me.
I can buy whatever I want.
842
00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:00,805
And half of it comes to me.
I can buy whatever I want.
But you always have to save your
843
00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:02,306
I can buy whatever I want.
But you always have to save your
money, because you might not get
844
00:24:02,308 --> 00:24:03,707
but you always have to save your
money, because you might not get
a job, and you got to sustain
845
00:24:03,709 --> 00:24:04,275
money, because you might not get
a job, and you got to sustain
yourself.
846
00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:06,310
A job, and you got to sustain
yourself.
I also like money.
847
00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:07,545
Yourself.
I also like money.
I like making it.
848
00:24:07,547 --> 00:24:09,413
I also like money.
I like making it.
So, real estate, um,
849
00:24:09,415 --> 00:24:12,149
I like making it.
So, real estate, um,
investments -- I'm always there.
850
00:24:12,151 --> 00:24:13,751
So, real estate, um,
investments -- I'm always there.
I am the first person to be
851
00:24:13,753 --> 00:24:15,386
investments -- I'm always there.
I am the first person to be
like, "hmm, what company is
852
00:24:15,388 --> 00:24:16,420
I am the first person to be
like, "hmm, what company is
about to happen?
853
00:24:16,422 --> 00:24:17,955
Like, "hmm, what company is
about to happen?
Let me buy some of that,"
854
00:24:17,957 --> 00:24:19,557
about to happen?
Let me buy some of that,"
because my ultimate goal is
855
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,525
let me buy some of that,"
because my ultimate goal is
to never work again.
856
00:24:21,527 --> 00:24:22,159
Because my ultimate goal is
to never work again.
So, bye.
857
00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:23,928
To never work again.
So, bye.
I need to make sure I got money
858
00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,396
so, bye.
I need to make sure I got money
working for me and things
859
00:24:25,398 --> 00:24:25,696
I need to make sure I got money
working for me and things
happening.
860
00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:28,232
Since I started in the industry,
861
00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:29,900
there was pressure about having
862
00:24:30,035 --> 00:24:30,267
a reputation.
863
00:24:31,603 --> 00:24:36,640
So, when I started working for
disney, I think they loved me
because they didn't have to
864
00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:37,675
disney, I think they loved me
because they didn't have to
worry about me.
865
00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:39,977
Because they didn't have to
worry about me.
I already knew what the deal
866
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:40,611
worry about me.
I already knew what the deal
was.
867
00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:42,213
I already knew what the deal
was.
I knew their demographic, and I
868
00:24:42,215 --> 00:24:43,781
was.
I knew their demographic, and I
knew what you couldn't sell and
869
00:24:43,783 --> 00:24:44,882
I knew their demographic, and I
knew what you couldn't sell and
what you could sell.
870
00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:46,784
Knew what you couldn't sell and
what you could sell.
So, you know, we're kind of
871
00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:48,419
what you could sell.
So, you know, we're kind of
simpatico in that way.
872
00:24:48,421 --> 00:24:50,187
So, you know, we're kind of
simpatico in that way.
I'm not gonna ruin my brand, and
873
00:24:50,189 --> 00:24:51,889
simpatico in that way.
I'm not gonna ruin my brand, and
that means you're not gonna get
874
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:52,990
I'm not gonna ruin my brand, and
that means you're not gonna get
your brand ruined.
875
00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,625
That means you're not gonna get
your brand ruined.
Yeah, there is a stigma.
876
00:24:54,627 --> 00:24:56,093
Your brand ruined.
Yeah, there is a stigma.
You're a kid forever.
877
00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:57,328
Yeah, there is a stigma.
You're a kid forever.
That's how it is.
878
00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:59,330
You're a kid forever.
That's how it is.
I have no regrets about it.
879
00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:00,564
That's how it is.
I have no regrets about it.
I do what I need to, as an
880
00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:00,998
I have no regrets about it.
I do what I need to, as an
adult.
881
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,333
I do what I need to, as an
adult.
And there are some adults who
882
00:25:02,335 --> 00:25:03,701
adult.
And there are some adults who
want to act a certain way, and
883
00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:04,935
and there are some adults who
want to act a certain way, and
there are some adults that
884
00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:05,369
want to act a certain way, and
there are some adults that
don't.
885
00:25:05,371 --> 00:25:06,203
There are some adults that
don't.
You know?
886
00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:08,339
Don't.
You know?
And I'm just one of those ones
887
00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:10,574
you know?
And I'm just one of those ones
where, outwardly, to the public,
888
00:25:10,576 --> 00:25:12,276
and I'm just one of those ones
where, outwardly, to the public,
that I know thousands and
889
00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:14,311
where, outwardly, to the public,
that I know thousands and
millions of people are gonna be
890
00:25:14,313 --> 00:25:16,247
that I know thousands and
millions of people are gonna be
watching, you know, I want to
891
00:25:16,249 --> 00:25:18,048
millions of people are gonna be
watching, you know, I want to
make sure that when I try to
892
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,017
watching, you know, I want to
make sure that when I try to
teach my kids, later, how to be
893
00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:21,852
make sure that when I try to
teach my kids, later, how to be
respectful, they're not like,
894
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:22,987
teach my kids, later, how to be
respectful, they're not like,
"well, mom, you did this."
895
00:25:22,989 --> 00:25:23,654
respectful, they're not like,
"well, mom, you did this."
"no, I didn't.
896
00:25:23,656 --> 00:25:24,855
"well, mom, you did this."
"no, I didn't.
You can't find it, you can't
897
00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:25,356
"no, I didn't.
You can't find it, you can't
prove it.
898
00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:26,657
You can't find it, you can't
prove it.
There's not one picture.
899
00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:28,058
Prove it.
There's not one picture.
Prove it. You can't do it."
900
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:30,261
there's not one picture.
Prove it. You can't do it."
so it's kind of in that world.
901
00:25:30,263 --> 00:25:30,728
Prove it. You can't do it."
so it's kind of in that world.
[ laughs ] you know?
902
00:25:36,167 --> 00:25:39,169
>> raven-symoné: There was
a pilot called
"absolutely psychic."
903
00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:40,638
a pilot called
"absolutely psychic."
it was about a psychic girl and
904
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,539
"absolutely psychic."
it was about a psychic girl and
her best friends.
905
00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:44,909
It was about a psychic girl and
her best friends.
And [chuckles] at the time,
906
00:25:44,911 --> 00:25:48,646
her best friends.
And [chuckles] at the time,
there was also...
907
00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:50,314
And [chuckles] at the time,
there was also...
Some controversy during
908
00:25:50,316 --> 00:25:52,349
there was also...
Some controversy during
"my wife and kids," because the
909
00:25:52,351 --> 00:25:54,919
some controversy during
"my wife and kids," because the
daughter was about to let go.
910
00:25:54,921 --> 00:25:56,887
"my wife and kids," because the
daughter was about to let go.
And so I auditioned for both
911
00:25:56,889 --> 00:25:57,555
daughter was about to let go.
And so I auditioned for both
roles.
912
00:25:57,557 --> 00:25:58,789
And so I auditioned for both
roles.
I auditioned for
913
00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:00,891
roles.
I auditioned for
"my wife and kids," and I also
914
00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:02,960
I auditioned for
"my wife and kids," and I also
auditioned for the best friend
915
00:26:02,962 --> 00:26:03,961
"my wife and kids," and I also
auditioned for the best friend
of a pilot called
916
00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:05,162
auditioned for the best friend
of a pilot called
"absolutely psychic."
917
00:26:05,164 --> 00:26:08,465
of a pilot called
"absolutely psychic."
and for one of the first times
918
00:26:08,467 --> 00:26:11,969
"absolutely psychic."
and for one of the first times
in my life, I got to choose, uh,
919
00:26:11,971 --> 00:26:13,370
and for one of the first times
in my life, I got to choose, uh,
behind the scenes, which one
920
00:26:13,372 --> 00:26:14,405
in my life, I got to choose, uh,
behind the scenes, which one
I wanted to go for.
921
00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,373
Behind the scenes, which one
I wanted to go for.
I did one episode of
922
00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:18,576
I wanted to go for.
I did one episode of
"my wife and kids," and
923
00:26:18,578 --> 00:26:19,843
I did one episode of
"my wife and kids," and
while I was on that set,
924
00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:20,744
"my wife and kids," and
while I was on that set,
I got the call.
925
00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:21,879
While I was on that set,
I got the call.
They were like, "well, this
926
00:26:21,881 --> 00:26:22,980
I got the call.
They were like, "well, this
pilot is getting picked up
927
00:26:22,982 --> 00:26:23,514
they were like, "well, this
pilot is getting picked up
with you."
928
00:26:23,516 --> 00:26:24,848
pilot is getting picked up
with you."
I was like, "well, what do you
929
00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:25,616
with you."
I was like, "well, what do you
mean, with me?"
930
00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:26,850
I was like, "well, what do you
mean, with me?"
they were like, "we want to
931
00:26:26,852 --> 00:26:28,118
mean, with me?"
they were like, "we want to
change it over to that -- to
932
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,187
they were like, "we want to
change it over to that -- to
raven being psychic, and
933
00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:31,989
change it over to that -- to
raven being psychic, and
you having friends."
934
00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:33,290
raven being psychic, and
you having friends."
and I go, "am I on
935
00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:35,125
you having friends."
and I go, "am I on
'my wife and kids,' or am I
936
00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:36,860
and I go, "am I on
'my wife and kids,' or am I
gonna have my own show on
937
00:26:36,862 --> 00:26:38,062
'my wife and kids,' or am I
gonna have my own show on
disney channel?"
938
00:26:38,064 --> 00:26:39,496
gonna have my own show on
disney channel?"
and at the time, it wasn't --
939
00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:40,965
disney channel?"
and at the time, it wasn't --
I forgot what "my wife and kids"
940
00:26:40,967 --> 00:26:42,366
and at the time, it wasn't --
I forgot what "my wife and kids"
was on, but it wasn't a network
941
00:26:42,368 --> 00:26:42,766
I forgot what "my wife and kids"
was on, but it wasn't a network
show.
942
00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:44,001
Was on, but it wasn't a network
show.
So I was like, "I'll have
943
00:26:44,003 --> 00:26:44,702
show.
So I was like, "I'll have
my own show.
944
00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:45,703
So I was like, "I'll have
my own show.
That's kinda cool."
945
00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:48,405
my own show.
That's kinda cool."
and that's what happened.
946
00:26:48,407 --> 00:26:51,275
That's kinda cool."
and that's what happened.
I think, why I went back to
947
00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:54,244
and that's what happened.
I think, why I went back to
playing raven baxter -- because
948
00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:55,546
I think, why I went back to
playing raven baxter -- because
I like her.
949
00:26:55,548 --> 00:26:59,850
Playing raven baxter -- because
I like her.
I like just not caring
950
00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:01,452
I like her.
I like just not caring
in front of the screen.
951
00:27:01,454 --> 00:27:03,787
I like just not caring
in front of the screen.
It's not a rigid situation.
952
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:04,722
In front of the screen.
It's not a rigid situation.
You know?
953
00:27:04,724 --> 00:27:07,124
It's not a rigid situation.
You know?
It's not trying to be someone's
954
00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:09,293
you know?
It's not trying to be someone's
daughter in this scene.
955
00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:12,896
It's not trying to be someone's
daughter in this scene.
I am free to act crazy
956
00:27:12,898 --> 00:27:14,064
daughter in this scene.
I am free to act crazy
as I want to.
957
00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:15,966
I am free to act crazy
as I want to.
And my mom was like, "what's
958
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,201
as I want to.
And my mom was like, "what's
wrong with you?"
959
00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:18,602
and my mom was like, "what's
wrong with you?"
I said, "I used to watch
960
00:27:18,604 --> 00:27:20,404
wrong with you?"
I said, "I used to watch
'madtv's' stuart, that
961
00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:21,372
I said, "I used to watch
'madtv's' stuart, that
character.
962
00:27:21,374 --> 00:27:23,307
'madtv's' stuart, that
character.
Modeled raven after him.
963
00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:26,110
Character.
Modeled raven after him.
Um, you know, 'ace ventura.'
964
00:27:26,112 --> 00:27:27,745
modeled raven after him.
Um, you know, 'ace ventura.'
loved it, did stuff from
965
00:27:27,747 --> 00:27:28,846
um, you know, 'ace ventura.'
loved it, did stuff from
'ace ventura.'"
966
00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:30,914
loved it, did stuff from
'ace ventura.'"
I was able to put all of these
967
00:27:30,916 --> 00:27:32,983
'ace ventura.'"
I was able to put all of these
amazing comedic moments that I
968
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:34,485
I was able to put all of these
amazing comedic moments that I
watched and loved --
969
00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:36,553
amazing comedic moments that I
watched and loved --
lucille ball, carol burnett --
970
00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:38,155
watched and loved --
lucille ball, carol burnett --
and just go for it.
971
00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:40,124
Lucille ball, carol burnett --
and just go for it.
And that's raven baxter.
972
00:27:40,126 --> 00:27:42,526
And just go for it.
And that's raven baxter.
So I'll go back to her until I'm
973
00:27:42,528 --> 00:27:43,293
and that's raven baxter.
So I'll go back to her until I'm
tired."
974
00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:44,928
so I'll go back to her until I'm
tired."
didn't realize the legs or
975
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:46,864
tired."
didn't realize the legs or
potential that 'that's so raven'
976
00:27:46,866 --> 00:27:47,698
didn't realize the legs or
potential that 'that's so raven'
could have.
977
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,201
Potential that 'that's so raven'
could have.
But I did understand
978
00:27:51,203 --> 00:27:53,170
could have.
But I did understand
what it takes to have your own
979
00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,538
but I did understand
what it takes to have your own
show and for it to be
980
00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:55,372
what it takes to have your own
show and for it to be
successful.
981
00:27:55,374 --> 00:27:56,774
Show and for it to be
successful.
So, if you look at the most
982
00:27:56,776 --> 00:27:58,375
successful.
So, if you look at the most
successful shows with comedians
983
00:27:58,377 --> 00:27:59,877
so, if you look at the most
successful shows with comedians
at the front of it, you know,
984
00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:01,412
successful shows with comedians
at the front of it, you know,
you have "the cosby show," you
985
00:28:01,414 --> 00:28:02,746
at the front of it, you know,
you have "the cosby show," you
have "martin," you have
986
00:28:02,748 --> 00:28:04,415
you have "the cosby show," you
have "martin," you have
"fresh prince of bel-air," you
987
00:28:04,417 --> 00:28:06,016
have "martin," you have
"fresh prince of bel-air," you
have "everybody loves raymond."
988
00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:07,751
"fresh prince of bel-air," you
have "everybody loves raymond."
you have these characters that
989
00:28:07,753 --> 00:28:09,620
have "everybody loves raymond."
you have these characters that
are surrounded by a cast so that
990
00:28:09,622 --> 00:28:10,888
you have these characters that
are surrounded by a cast so that
they can thrive, but,
991
00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:12,389
are surrounded by a cast so that
they can thrive, but,
ultimately, they're being
992
00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:13,190
they can thrive, but,
ultimately, they're being
themselves.
993
00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:14,825
Ultimately, they're being
themselves.
They're let free, they're able
994
00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:16,493
themselves.
They're let free, they're able
to work, they're able to move,
995
00:28:16,495 --> 00:28:18,228
they're let free, they're able
to work, they're able to move,
they're able to, you know, grow.
996
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:20,764
To work, they're able to move,
they're able to, you know, grow.
And disney channel,
997
00:28:20,766 --> 00:28:22,466
they're able to, you know, grow.
And disney channel,
michael poryes, susan sherman,
998
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,101
and disney channel,
michael poryes, susan sherman,
and all of the writers at the
999
00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:25,736
michael poryes, susan sherman,
and all of the writers at the
time, including the ones that
1000
00:28:25,738 --> 00:28:27,438
and all of the writers at the
time, including the ones that
happened in the future, really
1001
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,842
time, including the ones that
happened in the future, really
surrounded myself with amazing
1002
00:28:31,844 --> 00:28:33,243
happened in the future, really
surrounded myself with amazing
people -- rondell sheridan,
1003
00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:34,645
surrounded myself with amazing
people -- rondell sheridan,
t'keyah crystal keymáh,
1004
00:28:34,647 --> 00:28:35,546
people -- rondell sheridan,
t'keyah crystal keymáh,
orlando brown,
1005
00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:36,747
t'keyah crystal keymáh,
orlando brown,
anneliese van der pol,
1006
00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:38,849
orlando brown,
anneliese van der pol,
kyle massey -- with really
1007
00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:41,485
anneliese van der pol,
kyle massey -- with really
amazing talent, and let us go
1008
00:28:41,487 --> 00:28:43,787
kyle massey -- with really
amazing talent, and let us go
ape-[bleep] crazy, and we did.
1009
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:46,156
Amazing talent, and let us go
ape-[bleep] crazy, and we did.
You can see the authenticity of
1010
00:28:46,158 --> 00:28:47,991
ape-[bleep] crazy, and we did.
You can see the authenticity of
the joy we had on that set
1011
00:28:47,993 --> 00:28:49,593
you can see the authenticity of
the joy we had on that set
permeate the screen.
1012
00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:51,061
The joy we had on that set
permeate the screen.
You know, you can watch other
1013
00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:52,096
permeate the screen.
You know, you can watch other
shows that don't last that long,
1014
00:28:52,098 --> 00:28:53,063
you know, you can watch other
shows that don't last that long,
and you're like, "something's
1015
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:53,664
shows that don't last that long,
and you're like, "something's
going on there."
1016
00:28:53,666 --> 00:28:54,932
and you're like, "something's
going on there."
it might not gel as well,
1017
00:28:54,934 --> 00:28:55,499
going on there."
it might not gel as well,
you know?
1018
00:28:55,501 --> 00:28:57,267
It might not gel as well,
you know?
So, those hit shows have that
1019
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:58,635
you know?
So, those hit shows have that
formula that is called
1020
00:28:58,637 --> 00:29:00,137
so, those hit shows have that
formula that is called
"lightning in a bottle."
1021
00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:02,272
formula that is called
"lightning in a bottle."
and you try to re-create it, and
1022
00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:03,407
"lightning in a bottle."
and you try to re-create it, and
it's difficult.
1023
00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:06,210
And you try to re-create it, and
it's difficult.
But I think that's why it gained
1024
00:29:06,212 --> 00:29:07,945
it's difficult.
But I think that's why it gained
so much happiness.
1025
00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:10,714
But I think that's why it gained
so much happiness.
We encapsulated a time period
1026
00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:13,016
so much happiness.
We encapsulated a time period
when, you know, you had people
1027
00:29:13,018 --> 00:29:15,219
we encapsulated a time period
when, you know, you had people
in our age bracket that just
1028
00:29:15,221 --> 00:29:17,654
when, you know, you had people
in our age bracket that just
wanted to have fun, didn't care.
1029
00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:19,556
In our age bracket that just
wanted to have fun, didn't care.
Wasn't trying to be uptight or
1030
00:29:19,558 --> 00:29:20,424
wanted to have fun, didn't care.
Wasn't trying to be uptight or
super sexy.
1031
00:29:20,426 --> 00:29:22,392
Wasn't trying to be uptight or
super sexy.
And the writers enjoyed writing
1032
00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:25,696
super sexy.
And the writers enjoyed writing
for us, because I was never that
1033
00:29:25,698 --> 00:29:30,000
and the writers enjoyed writing
for us, because I was never that
type of actress that, um, cared
1034
00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,969
for us, because I was never that
type of actress that, um, cared
if a hair was out of place or
1035
00:29:31,971 --> 00:29:34,004
type of actress that, um, cared
if a hair was out of place or
cared about my image outside of
1036
00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:34,805
if a hair was out of place or
cared about my image outside of
the show.
1037
00:29:34,807 --> 00:29:36,907
Cared about my image outside of
the show.
I was like, "what do you need me
1038
00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:38,876
the show.
I was like, "what do you need me
to do -- pie in the face while
1039
00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:39,977
I was like, "what do you need me
to do -- pie in the face while
doing a split?
1040
00:29:39,979 --> 00:29:40,811
To do -- pie in the face while
doing a split?
Let's go."
1041
00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:42,146
doing a split?
Let's go."
you know, some actresses you
1042
00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:43,547
let's go."
you know, some actresses you
would meet in my age bracket,
1043
00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:44,915
you know, some actresses you
would meet in my age bracket,
they're like, "but my
1044
00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:46,316
would meet in my age bracket,
they're like, "but my
boyfriend's watching."
1045
00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:47,351
they're like, "but my
boyfriend's watching."
I'm like, "I don't have a
1046
00:29:47,353 --> 00:29:47,851
boyfriend's watching."
I'm like, "I don't have a
boyfriend.
1047
00:29:47,853 --> 00:29:48,318
I'm like, "I don't have a
boyfriend.
Let's go.
1048
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,586
Boyfriend.
Let's go.
You don't even know what I like,
1049
00:29:49,588 --> 00:29:50,354
let's go.
You don't even know what I like,
so let's have it."
1050
00:29:50,356 --> 00:29:51,722
you don't even know what I like,
so let's have it."
so I think it was just the
1051
00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:53,290
so let's have it."
so I think it was just the
freedom that we had that really
1052
00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:54,925
so I think it was just the
freedom that we had that really
propelled it to where it was and
1053
00:29:54,927 --> 00:29:57,094
freedom that we had that really
propelled it to where it was and
where it went.
1054
00:29:57,096 --> 00:29:58,462
Propelled it to where it was and
where it went.
There were a couple of reasons
1055
00:29:58,464 --> 00:29:59,496
where it went.
There were a couple of reasons
why I did "the view."
1056
00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:03,100
there were a couple of reasons
why I did "the view."
um, one, everybody that I grew
1057
00:30:03,102 --> 00:30:05,502
why I did "the view."
um, one, everybody that I grew
up with in the industry, around
1058
00:30:05,504 --> 00:30:08,806
um, one, everybody that I grew
up with in the industry, around
my age bracket -- lindsay and
1059
00:30:08,808 --> 00:30:11,341
up with in the industry, around
my age bracket -- lindsay and
all these people -- made their
1060
00:30:11,343 --> 00:30:13,610
my age bracket -- lindsay and
all these people -- made their
transion to adulthood by
1061
00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:16,814
all these people -- made their
transion to adulthood by
oversexualizing themselves.
1062
00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:19,149
Transion to adulthood by
oversexualizing themselves.
I decided to go into "the view"
1063
00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:21,151
oversexualizing themselves.
I decided to go into "the view"
to show my adulthood by my
1064
00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:22,619
I decided to go into "the view"
to show my adulthood by my
brain.
1065
00:30:22,621 --> 00:30:23,720
To show my adulthood by my
brain.
One.
1066
00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,355
Brain.
One.
Two, whoopi asked me.
1067
00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:27,057
One.
Two, whoopi asked me.
"okay!" [ laughs ]
1068
00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:28,859
two, whoopi asked me.
"okay!" [ laughs ]
you don't say no to an egot.
1069
00:30:28,861 --> 00:30:29,960
"okay!" [ laughs ]
you don't say no to an egot.
And I just love her so much,
1070
00:30:29,962 --> 00:30:31,128
you don't say no to an egot.
And I just love her so much,
I just wanted to be underneath
1071
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:31,728
and I just love her so much,
I just wanted to be underneath
her.
1072
00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:33,764
I just wanted to be underneath
her.
And, um, very difficult
1073
00:30:33,766 --> 00:30:34,765
her.
And, um, very difficult
decision.
1074
00:30:34,767 --> 00:30:36,033
And, um, very difficult
decision.
One of the hardest jobs I've
1075
00:30:36,035 --> 00:30:36,600
decision.
One of the hardest jobs I've
ever had.
1076
00:30:36,602 --> 00:30:38,035
One of the hardest jobs I've
ever had.
The second-hardest was broadway.
1077
00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:40,571
Ever had.
The second-hardest was broadway.
And would I do it again?
1078
00:30:40,573 --> 00:30:42,105
The second-hardest was broadway.
And would I do it again?
Perhaps not.
1079
00:30:42,107 --> 00:30:44,308
And would I do it again?
Perhaps not.
But it was a learning experience
1080
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:44,875
perhaps not.
But it was a learning experience
beyond.
1081
00:30:44,877 --> 00:30:46,510
But it was a learning experience
beyond.
I learned a lot about myself.
1082
00:30:46,512 --> 00:30:49,046
Beyond.
I learned a lot about myself.
Very confident in who I am.
1083
00:30:49,048 --> 00:30:51,748
I learned a lot about myself.
Very confident in who I am.
Showed me even more about
1084
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:55,319
very confident in who I am.
Showed me even more about
free speech -- hmm? -- For
1085
00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:56,854
showed me even more about
free speech -- hmm? -- For
myself and for other people to
1086
00:30:56,856 --> 00:30:58,155
free speech -- hmm? -- For
myself and for other people to
talk about me.
1087
00:30:58,157 --> 00:31:00,090
Myself and for other people to
talk about me.
And, uh, I met my wife then, so
1088
00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:01,191
talk about me.
And, uh, I met my wife then, so
that was great.
1089
00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:02,192
And, uh, I met my wife then, so
that was great.
There's some good and bad.
1090
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:02,993
That was great.
There's some good and bad.
You know what it is.
1091
00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:04,995
There's some good and bad.
You know what it is.
That show was one of the most
1092
00:31:04,997 --> 00:31:07,164
you know what it is.
That show was one of the most
stressful shows I have ever been
1093
00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:08,031
that show was one of the most
stressful shows I have ever been
a part of.
1094
00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:10,167
Stressful shows I have ever been
a part of.
The fact that I wasn't really a
1095
00:31:10,169 --> 00:31:12,269
a part of.
The fact that I wasn't really a
big political person, to begin
1096
00:31:12,271 --> 00:31:14,338
the fact that I wasn't really a
big political person, to begin
with, and they sold me on this
1097
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:16,440
big political person, to begin
with, and they sold me on this
idea as, "this is gonna be the
1098
00:31:16,442 --> 00:31:18,275
with, and they sold me on this
idea as, "this is gonna be the
new pop-culture show, and you're
1099
00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,043
idea as, "this is gonna be the
new pop-culture show, and you're
gonna talk about this and that.
1100
00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:21,178
New pop-culture show, and you're
gonna talk about this and that.
Yeah, we'll put some politics
1101
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:22,346
gonna talk about this and that.
Yeah, we'll put some politics
here and there, but nothing you
1102
00:31:22,348 --> 00:31:22,946
yeah, we'll put some politics
here and there, but nothing you
can't learn."
1103
00:31:22,948 --> 00:31:23,780
here and there, but nothing you
can't learn."
"okay, cool."
1104
00:31:23,782 --> 00:31:27,417
can't learn."
"okay, cool."
I get there, and it's like...
1105
00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:28,118
"okay, cool."
I get there, and it's like...
"I'm sorry?
1106
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,553
I get there, and it's like...
"I'm sorry?
Trust me, y'all don't want to
1107
00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:31,154
"I'm sorry?
Trust me, y'all don't want to
hear what I have to say, because
1108
00:31:31,156 --> 00:31:32,422
trust me, y'all don't want to
hear what I have to say, because
I'm a millennial, I don't
1109
00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:33,557
hear what I have to say, because
I'm a millennial, I don't
believe in any of this
1110
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,125
I'm a millennial, I don't
believe in any of this
old-school stuff that's actually
1111
00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:36,193
believe in any of this
old-school stuff that's actually
running the country.
1112
00:31:36,195 --> 00:31:37,494
Old-school stuff that's actually
running the country.
I'm gonna get in trouble."
1113
00:31:37,496 --> 00:31:41,632
running the country.
I'm gonna get in trouble."
and you know, ultimately...
1114
00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:43,066
I'm gonna get in trouble."
and you know, ultimately...
We see where I am now.
1115
00:31:43,068 --> 00:31:44,067
And you know, ultimately...
We see where I am now.
[ laughs ]
1116
00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:44,601
we see where I am now.
[ laughs ]
and I'm okay with that.
1117
00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:53,110
>> raven-symoné: The first
"cheetah girls," from what I can
remember, we really enjoyed
1118
00:31:53,112 --> 00:31:55,512
"cheetah girls," from what I can
remember, we really enjoyed
creating the camaraderie,
1119
00:31:55,514 --> 00:31:57,614
remember, we really enjoyed
creating the camaraderie,
sisterhood of it all.
1120
00:31:57,616 --> 00:31:59,683
Creating the camaraderie,
sisterhood of it all.
Kiki'd, talked about it.
1121
00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:03,754
Sisterhood of it all.
Kiki'd, talked about it.
A lot of personal journeys.
1122
00:32:03,756 --> 00:32:06,490
Kiki'd, talked about it.
A lot of personal journeys.
And then [laughs]
1123
00:32:06,492 --> 00:32:08,792
a lot of personal journeys.
And then [laughs]
there was a period of time
1124
00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:11,128
and then [laughs]
there was a period of time
where, I'm guessing, the
1125
00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:14,798
there was a period of time
where, I'm guessing, the
industry and fame
1126
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,337
where, I'm guessing, the
industry and fame
and...Careers...
1127
00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:22,673
Industry and fame
and...Careers...
Got into everyone's head.
1128
00:32:22,675 --> 00:32:23,807
And...Careers...
Got into everyone's head.
I'm not gonna single anybody
1129
00:32:23,809 --> 00:32:24,141
got into everyone's head.
I'm not gonna single anybody
out.
1130
00:32:24,143 --> 00:32:25,175
I'm not gonna single anybody
out.
Got into everyone's head.
1131
00:32:25,177 --> 00:32:26,476
Out.
Got into everyone's head.
So the dynamic changed.
1132
00:32:26,478 --> 00:32:28,045
Got into everyone's head.
So the dynamic changed.
We grew up. Things happened.
1133
00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:29,446
So the dynamic changed.
We grew up. Things happened.
I wasn't a part of the
1134
00:32:29,448 --> 00:32:30,247
we grew up. Things happened.
I wasn't a part of the
girl group.
1135
00:32:30,249 --> 00:32:31,848
I wasn't a part of the
girl group.
I didn't do what they did.
1136
00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:34,084
Girl group.
I didn't do what they did.
And it was just interesting
1137
00:32:34,086 --> 00:32:35,218
I didn't do what they did.
And it was just interesting
after that.
1138
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:36,620
And it was just interesting
after that.
It was very difficult to turn
1139
00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,121
after that.
It was very difficult to turn
down "cheetah girls 3," because
1140
00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:39,656
it was very difficult to turn
down "cheetah girls 3," because
they did keep coming back to me.
1141
00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:43,460
Down "cheetah girls 3," because
they did keep coming back to me.
Titles, money, india,
1142
00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,028
they did keep coming back to me.
Titles, money, india,
this, that.
1143
00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:47,331
Titles, money, india,
this, that.
And I know for a fact
1144
00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:49,733
this, that.
And I know for a fact
that that was the first time
1145
00:32:49,735 --> 00:32:52,002
and I know for a fact
that that was the first time
I ever turned down a job
1146
00:32:52,004 --> 00:32:55,372
that that was the first time
I ever turned down a job
because of my mental health.
1147
00:32:55,374 --> 00:32:55,973
I ever turned down a job
because of my mental health.
I just didn't want to do it.
1148
00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:04,581
>> raven-symoné: Right before
I left l.A. To move to new york,
I had a big ol' house party.
1149
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,550
I left l.A. To move to new york,
I had a big ol' house party.
Ask about it. [ laughs ]
1150
00:33:06,552 --> 00:33:07,617
I had a big ol' house party.
Ask about it. [ laughs ]
it was bomb.
1151
00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:09,753
Ask about it. [ laughs ]
it was bomb.
And, uh, we met at an event,
1152
00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:11,455
it was bomb.
And, uh, we met at an event,
a couple days before.
1153
00:33:11,457 --> 00:33:13,123
And, uh, we met at an event,
a couple days before.
No, one day before.
1154
00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,458
A couple days before.
No, one day before.
We met at an event one day
1155
00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:14,958
no, one day before.
We met at an event one day
before.
1156
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,259
We met at an event one day
before.
I was like, "come over to the
1157
00:33:16,261 --> 00:33:16,660
before.
I was like, "come over to the
house.
1158
00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:18,028
I was like, "come over to the
house.
Come say goodbye to me," right?
1159
00:33:18,030 --> 00:33:19,930
House.
Come say goodbye to me," right?
And she came, she chilled.
1160
00:33:19,932 --> 00:33:21,298
Come say goodbye to me," right?
And she came, she chilled.
It was fantastic.
1161
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:23,100
And she came, she chilled.
It was fantastic.
And then I went to new york, and
1162
00:33:23,102 --> 00:33:24,301
it was fantastic.
And then I went to new york, and
I invited her there.
1163
00:33:24,303 --> 00:33:26,269
And then I went to new york, and
I invited her there.
Like, literally, super lesbian.
1164
00:33:26,271 --> 00:33:28,138
I invited her there.
Like, literally, super lesbian.
Just met and just kept going,
1165
00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:29,272
like, literally, super lesbian.
Just met and just kept going,
just kept going.
1166
00:33:29,274 --> 00:33:31,708
Just met and just kept going,
just kept going.
And that happened because
1167
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,810
just kept going.
And that happened because
there's a connection.
1168
00:33:33,812 --> 00:33:35,912
And that happened because
there's a connection.
We talked a little bit about
1169
00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:38,181
there's a connection.
We talked a little bit about
some of the weird little things
1170
00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:40,117
we talked a little bit about
some of the weird little things
that happen when you're a
1171
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:41,118
some of the weird little things
that happen when you're a
child star.
1172
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,419
That happen when you're a
child star.
And one of those things is
1173
00:33:42,421 --> 00:33:43,653
child star.
And one of those things is
really being able to read
1174
00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:47,057
and one of those things is
really being able to read
people, uh, because, in my
1175
00:33:47,059 --> 00:33:49,993
really being able to read
people, uh, because, in my
opinion, we not only have to
1176
00:33:49,995 --> 00:33:52,596
people, uh, because, in my
opinion, we not only have to
meet someone that we've never
1177
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,131
opinion, we not only have to
meet someone that we've never
met before and have a full
1178
00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:55,732
meet someone that we've never
met before and have a full
relationship with them, and
1179
00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:57,234
met before and have a full
relationship with them, and
pretend that they're your
1180
00:33:57,236 --> 00:33:58,268
relationship with them, and
pretend that they're your
"mother" or your
1181
00:33:58,270 --> 00:33:59,703
pretend that they're your
"mother" or your
"great-grandfather" in a
1182
00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:02,239
"mother" or your
"great-grandfather" in a
heartbeat, but you also have to
1183
00:34:02,241 --> 00:34:03,874
"great-grandfather" in a
heartbeat, but you also have to
interact with that person
1184
00:34:03,876 --> 00:34:05,475
heartbeat, but you also have to
interact with that person
outside as if you've met
1185
00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:06,176
interact with that person
outside as if you've met
forever.
1186
00:34:06,178 --> 00:34:07,644
Outside as if you've met
forever.
So, reading people and
1187
00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:09,479
forever.
So, reading people and
understanding who they are, I
1188
00:34:09,481 --> 00:34:10,981
so, reading people and
understanding who they are, I
can do in a glance or a
1189
00:34:10,983 --> 00:34:11,782
understanding who they are, I
can do in a glance or a
heartbeat.
1190
00:34:11,784 --> 00:34:13,583
Can do in a glance or a
heartbeat.
I'm very, very particular.
1191
00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:16,453
Heartbeat.
I'm very, very particular.
And with her, I could look at
1192
00:34:16,455 --> 00:34:18,488
I'm very, very particular.
And with her, I could look at
her, she looked at me, and we
1193
00:34:18,490 --> 00:34:20,390
and with her, I could look at
her, she looked at me, and we
both saw the happiness, the
1194
00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,225
her, she looked at me, and we
both saw the happiness, the
pain, the world, the whole
1195
00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:22,893
both saw the happiness, the
pain, the world, the whole
thing.
1196
00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:24,628
Pain, the world, the whole
thing.
And so we just didn't want to
1197
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:26,163
thing.
And so we just didn't want to
separate from each other.
1198
00:34:26,165 --> 00:34:28,565
And so we just didn't want to
separate from each other.
And she moved to new york.
1199
00:34:28,567 --> 00:34:29,699
Separate from each other.
And she moved to new york.
Then, I broke up with her.
1200
00:34:29,701 --> 00:34:30,767
And she moved to new york.
Then, I broke up with her.
But I love her still.
1201
00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:31,768
Then, I broke up with her.
But I love her still.
And then we're back.
1202
00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:33,770
But I love her still.
And then we're back.
[ laughs ]
1203
00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:35,705
and then we're back.
[ laughs ]
let me tell you why miranda
1204
00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:36,673
[ laughs ]
let me tell you why miranda
got a ring.
1205
00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:40,343
Let me tell you why miranda
got a ring.
Miranda knows how to make me
1206
00:34:40,345 --> 00:34:41,912
got a ring.
Miranda knows how to make me
speak truth, even when I don't
1207
00:34:41,914 --> 00:34:44,381
miranda knows how to make me
speak truth, even when I don't
want to.
1208
00:34:44,383 --> 00:34:47,617
Speak truth, even when I don't
want to.
She's like my therapist, my
1209
00:34:47,619 --> 00:34:50,654
want to.
She's like my therapist, my
lover, my bestie.
1210
00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:52,055
She's like my therapist, my
lover, my bestie.
She doesn't let me get away with
1211
00:34:52,057 --> 00:34:53,290
lover, my bestie.
She doesn't let me get away with
stuff, but at the same time,
1212
00:34:53,292 --> 00:34:54,157
she doesn't let me get away with
stuff, but at the same time,
she's super sweet.
1213
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,093
Stuff, but at the same time,
she's super sweet.
I mean, listen, you know,
1214
00:34:56,095 --> 00:34:57,594
she's super sweet.
I mean, listen, you know,
when I was growing up and you
1215
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:58,962
I mean, listen, you know,
when I was growing up and you
fall and you start crying,
1216
00:34:58,964 --> 00:34:59,996
when I was growing up and you
fall and you start crying,
"girl, suck it up.
1217
00:34:59,998 --> 00:35:00,831
Fall and you start crying,
"girl, suck it up.
We got to go."
1218
00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:01,731
"girl, suck it up.
We got to go."
you know what I mean?
1219
00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:02,833
We got to go."
you know what I mean?
I mean, everybody has some
1220
00:35:02,835 --> 00:35:03,600
you know what I mean?
I mean, everybody has some
family like that.
1221
00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:04,835
I mean, everybody has some
family like that.
Miranda is like, "are you okay?"
1222
00:35:04,837 --> 00:35:06,002
family like that.
Miranda is like, "are you okay?"
and I'm like, "yeah, I'm fine.
1223
00:35:06,004 --> 00:35:07,003
Miranda is like, "are you okay?"
and I'm like, "yeah, I'm fine.
Thanks, babe."
1224
00:35:07,005 --> 00:35:08,338
and I'm like, "yeah, I'm fine.
Thanks, babe."
like, it's, like, that kind of
1225
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:08,939
thanks, babe."
like, it's, like, that kind of
love, so...
1226
00:35:08,941 --> 00:35:12,375
Like, it's, like, that kind of
love, so...
When we were dating...
1227
00:35:12,377 --> 00:35:14,878
Love, so...
When we were dating...
[chuckles] she just would ask me
1228
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,412
when we were dating...
[chuckles] she just would ask me
questions.
1229
00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:16,646
[chuckles] she just would ask me
questions.
I'm like, "why are you asking
1230
00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:17,414
questions.
I'm like, "why are you asking
these questions?
1231
00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:18,048
I'm like, "why are you asking
these questions?
I'm confused.
1232
00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:19,249
These questions?
I'm confused.
No one's ever asked me these
1233
00:35:19,251 --> 00:35:20,083
I'm confused.
No one's ever asked me these
questions before."
1234
00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:22,686
no one's ever asked me these
questions before."
which also, like, made stuff
1235
00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:24,221
questions before."
which also, like, made stuff
bubble up in me that I wasn't
1236
00:35:24,223 --> 00:35:25,856
which also, like, made stuff
bubble up in me that I wasn't
able to deal with, and no one's
1237
00:35:25,858 --> 00:35:27,257
bubble up in me that I wasn't
able to deal with, and no one's
ever done that before.
1238
00:35:27,259 --> 00:35:28,758
Able to deal with, and no one's
ever done that before.
Most people like to tiptoe
1239
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,828
ever done that before.
Most people like to tiptoe
around me because of my
1240
00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:33,763
most people like to tiptoe
around me because of my
quick nature with my tongue.
1241
00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:37,400
Around me because of my
quick nature with my tongue.
And so she's different.
1242
00:35:37,402 --> 00:35:38,502
Quick nature with my tongue.
And so she's different.
It was very uncomfortable,
1243
00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:39,469
and so she's different.
It was very uncomfortable,
and I didn't like it.
1244
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:40,537
It was very uncomfortable,
and I didn't like it.
I did not like it at all.
1245
00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:41,538
And I didn't like it.
I did not like it at all.
And so I left.
1246
00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:43,206
I did not like it at all.
And so I left.
And I went through a couple
1247
00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:44,841
and so I left.
And I went through a couple
other relationships, and I
1248
00:35:44,843 --> 00:35:46,676
and I went through a couple
other relationships, and I
remember calling her and being
1249
00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:48,979
other relationships, and I
remember calling her and being
like, "you were right.
1250
00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:50,447
Remember calling her and being
like, "you were right.
This is who I am.
1251
00:35:50,449 --> 00:35:51,815
Like, "you were right.
This is who I am.
I have to figure it out.
1252
00:35:51,817 --> 00:35:53,483
This is who I am.
I have to figure it out.
I can't stand you, and I love
1253
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:54,317
I have to figure it out.
I can't stand you, and I love
you so much.
1254
00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:56,019
I can't stand you, and I love
you so much.
So help me figure it out for the
1255
00:35:56,021 --> 00:35:57,621
you so much.
So help me figure it out for the
rest of my life, so I can be a
1256
00:35:57,623 --> 00:35:58,522
so help me figure it out for the
rest of my life, so I can be a
better person."
1257
00:35:58,524 --> 00:36:02,859
rest of my life, so I can be a
better person."
um, the moment that came when
1258
00:36:02,861 --> 00:36:05,028
better person."
um, the moment that came when
I was like, "you know what?
1259
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:06,096
Um, the moment that came when
I was like, "you know what?
I'm this way.
1260
00:36:06,098 --> 00:36:08,231
I was like, "you know what?
I'm this way.
I'm not as girly-girl as people
1261
00:36:08,233 --> 00:36:10,300
I'm this way.
I'm not as girly-girl as people
see me in these shows and this
1262
00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:12,135
I'm not as girly-girl as people
see me in these shows and this
brand that was created for
1263
00:36:12,137 --> 00:36:13,203
see me in these shows and this
brand that was created for
raven-symoné.
1264
00:36:13,205 --> 00:36:14,638
Brand that was created for
raven-symoné.
I'm super in my skin.
1265
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,439
Raven-symoné.
I'm super in my skin.
This is who I am," came, and
1266
00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:18,575
I'm super in my skin.
This is who I am," came, and
I [bleep] you not, during
1267
00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:20,944
this is who I am," came, and
I [bleep] you not, during
lockdown, in a public way.
1268
00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:22,946
I [bleep] you not, during
lockdown, in a public way.
So, for instance, the way you
1269
00:36:22,948 --> 00:36:25,081
lockdown, in a public way.
So, for instance, the way you
see me now is how I normally am
1270
00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:25,849
so, for instance, the way you
see me now is how I normally am
at home.
1271
00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:28,185
See me now is how I normally am
at home.
But before lockdown, when I went
1272
00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:30,487
at home.
But before lockdown, when I went
out to be "raven-symoné," I put
1273
00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:32,556
but before lockdown, when I went
out to be "raven-symoné," I put
on the bells and whistles to
1274
00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:33,957
out to be "raven-symoné," I put
on the bells and whistles to
match that brand.
1275
00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:35,892
On the bells and whistles to
match that brand.
You know, in the industry, when
1276
00:36:35,894 --> 00:36:37,661
match that brand.
You know, in the industry, when
you're always trying to make
1277
00:36:37,663 --> 00:36:39,629
you know, in the industry, when
you're always trying to make
sure that the brand is forefront
1278
00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:41,498
you're always trying to make
sure that the brand is forefront
and that you're projecting the
1279
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:45,535
sure that the brand is forefront
and that you're projecting the
right image, I tended to put my
1280
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,437
and that you're projecting the
right image, I tended to put my
sexuality and growth and my
1281
00:36:47,439 --> 00:36:49,306
right image, I tended to put my
sexuality and growth and my
gender and sexuality on the
1282
00:36:49,308 --> 00:36:51,208
sexuality and growth and my
gender and sexuality on the
back burner, because that's
1283
00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:53,343
gender and sexuality on the
back burner, because that's
not what I was taught should be
1284
00:36:53,345 --> 00:36:54,644
back burner, because that's
not what I was taught should be
in the forefront.
1285
00:36:54,646 --> 00:36:56,112
Not what I was taught should be
in the forefront.
So, what I did, I just did
1286
00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:56,846
in the forefront.
So, what I did, I just did
on a whim.
1287
00:36:56,848 --> 00:36:58,481
So, what I did, I just did
on a whim.
It's not like I thought about
1288
00:36:58,483 --> 00:36:59,950
on a whim.
It's not like I thought about
it, I had to mull over it.
1289
00:36:59,952 --> 00:37:01,618
It's not like I thought about
it, I had to mull over it.
I just did what I needed to do
1290
00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:03,253
it, I had to mull over it.
I just did what I needed to do
in my time off, and then was
1291
00:37:03,255 --> 00:37:04,854
I just did what I needed to do
in my time off, and then was
raven-symoné when necessary.
1292
00:37:04,856 --> 00:37:07,023
In my time off, and then was
raven-symoné when necessary.
So, during lockdown, all of it
1293
00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:08,825
raven-symoné when necessary.
So, during lockdown, all of it
came flooding in, honey.
1294
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:10,794
So, during lockdown, all of it
came flooding in, honey.
All of it came flooding in.
1295
00:37:10,796 --> 00:37:12,596
Came flooding in, honey.
All of it came flooding in.
I'm like, "aw, I don't want to
1296
00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:13,663
all of it came flooding in.
I'm like, "aw, I don't want to
deal with this."
1297
00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:15,031
I'm like, "aw, I don't want to
deal with this."
you have people out here
1298
00:37:15,033 --> 00:37:16,600
deal with this."
you have people out here
body-conscious in a beautiful
1299
00:37:16,602 --> 00:37:17,033
you have people out here
body-conscious in a beautiful
way.
1300
00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:18,301
Body-conscious in a beautiful
way.
I'm like, "I don't have to do
1301
00:37:18,303 --> 00:37:18,969
way.
I'm like, "I don't have to do
that anymore.
1302
00:37:18,971 --> 00:37:20,237
I'm like, "I don't have to do
that anymore.
I don't have to be that same
1303
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,571
that anymore.
I don't have to be that same
person that they told me to be,
1304
00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,106
I don't have to be that same
person that they told me to be,
back in the day," which it's
1305
00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:24,407
person that they told me to be,
back in the day," which it's
very hard to break that
1306
00:37:24,409 --> 00:37:25,809
back in the day," which it's
very hard to break that
programming since you were
1307
00:37:25,811 --> 00:37:26,610
very hard to break that
programming since you were
3 years old.
1308
00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:28,178
Programming since you were
3 years old.
So it's even confusing to me
1309
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:29,813
3 years old.
So it's even confusing to me
sometimes, but I have someone
1310
00:37:29,815 --> 00:37:31,381
so it's even confusing to me
sometimes, but I have someone
that's like, "no, you should
1311
00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:32,349
sometimes, but I have someone
that's like, "no, you should
wear your hair.
1312
00:37:32,351 --> 00:37:33,984
That's like, "no, you should
wear your hair.
No, go ahead and wear a t-shirt.
1313
00:37:33,986 --> 00:37:34,718
Wear your hair.
No, go ahead and wear a t-shirt.
You're fine.
1314
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:36,353
No, go ahead and wear a t-shirt.
You're fine.
Go ahead and put your estilo on.
1315
00:37:36,355 --> 00:37:37,020
You're fine.
Go ahead and put your estilo on.
You got it."
1316
00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:38,321
go ahead and put your estilo on.
You got it."
and I'm like, "oh, thank you,
1317
00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:38,755
you got it."
and I'm like, "oh, thank you,
babe."
1318
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:40,490
and I'm like, "oh, thank you,
babe."
I won't put that weave in and
1319
00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:42,192
babe."
I won't put that weave in and
extra makeup on to make sure
1320
00:37:42,194 --> 00:37:43,960
I won't put that weave in and
extra makeup on to make sure
somebody was "attracted to me"
1321
00:37:43,962 --> 00:37:45,862
extra makeup on to make sure
somebody was "attracted to me"
in whatever way hollywood wanted
1322
00:37:45,864 --> 00:37:46,997
somebody was "attracted to me"
in whatever way hollywood wanted
a female to look.
1323
00:37:46,999 --> 00:37:48,131
In whatever way hollywood wanted
a female to look.
Like, "okay, I'm good with
1324
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:48,531
a female to look.
Like, "okay, I'm good with
that."
1325
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:51,101
like, "okay, I'm good with
that."
and, yes, coming out at a time
1326
00:37:51,103 --> 00:37:53,703
that."
and, yes, coming out at a time
when it could be looked at as,
1327
00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:54,804
and, yes, coming out at a time
when it could be looked at as,
"well, you're just following
1328
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:55,939
when it could be looked at as,
"well, you're just following
this and following that," but
1329
00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:57,641
"well, you're just following
this and following that," but
the difference is that y'all
1330
00:37:57,643 --> 00:37:59,442
this and following that," but
the difference is that y'all
never saw me when I went home,
1331
00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:01,044
the difference is that y'all
never saw me when I went home,
so y'all don't know what I
1332
00:38:01,046 --> 00:38:02,812
never saw me when I went home,
so y'all don't know what I
looked like when I went home.
1333
00:38:02,814 --> 00:38:05,215
So y'all don't know what I
looked like when I went home.
Yes, we will have children.
1334
00:38:05,217 --> 00:38:05,982
Looked like when I went home.
Yes, we will have children.
Yes, we will.
1335
00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:07,417
Yes, we will have children.
Yes, we will.
We're figuring out how we're
1336
00:38:07,419 --> 00:38:08,218
yes, we will.
We're figuring out how we're
gonna do that.
1337
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:09,786
We're figuring out how we're
gonna do that.
The best part of being a lesbian
1338
00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:11,254
gonna do that.
The best part of being a lesbian
is, you can plan it [laughs],
1339
00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:12,289
the best part of being a lesbian
is, you can plan it [laughs],
'cause you have to.
1340
00:38:12,291 --> 00:38:14,090
Is, you can plan it [laughs],
'cause you have to.
So we're just gonna plan it
1341
00:38:14,092 --> 00:38:14,991
'cause you have to.
So we're just gonna plan it
to the "t."
1342
00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:16,860
so we're just gonna plan it
to the "t."
my wife is a doula, so she's
1343
00:38:16,862 --> 00:38:19,429
to the "t."
my wife is a doula, so she's
all about life.
1344
00:38:19,431 --> 00:38:20,830
My wife is a doula, so she's
all about life.
And that's exciting to know.
1345
00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:23,133
All about life.
And that's exciting to know.
So we're gonna make sure that
1346
00:38:23,135 --> 00:38:25,035
and that's exciting to know.
So we're gonna make sure that
we do it the right way.
1347
00:38:25,037 --> 00:38:28,471
So we're gonna make sure that
we do it the right way.
It's difficult to differentiate
1348
00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:31,608
we do it the right way.
It's difficult to differentiate
who your self is, in your brain,
1349
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:33,877
it's difficult to differentiate
who your self is, in your brain,
and who someone else wants you
1350
00:38:33,879 --> 00:38:35,745
who your self is, in your brain,
and who someone else wants you
go to be, in your brain.
1351
00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:36,913
And who someone else wants you
go to be, in your brain.
And I think that's another
1352
00:38:36,915 --> 00:38:38,214
go to be, in your brain.
And I think that's another
reason why we have a hard time
1353
00:38:38,216 --> 00:38:39,316
and I think that's another
reason why we have a hard time
listening, because we're
1354
00:38:39,318 --> 00:38:40,884
reason why we have a hard time
listening, because we're
combating, "well, I could be
1355
00:38:40,886 --> 00:38:42,585
listening, because we're
combating, "well, I could be
that, I could be that, I could
1356
00:38:42,587 --> 00:38:44,054
combating, "well, I could be
that, I could be that, I could
be that, and I want that."
1357
00:38:44,056 --> 00:38:46,222
that, I could be that, I could
be that, and I want that."
but what is your body doing?
1358
00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:48,591
Be that, and I want that."
but what is your body doing?
Like, I know for a fact, when I
1359
00:38:48,593 --> 00:38:50,593
but what is your body doing?
Like, I know for a fact, when I
do television shows, I stress
1360
00:38:50,595 --> 00:38:52,162
like, I know for a fact, when I
do television shows, I stress
out, so I gain weight.
1361
00:38:52,164 --> 00:38:53,663
Do television shows, I stress
out, so I gain weight.
Something is to that.
1362
00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:55,598
Out, so I gain weight.
Something is to that.
I don't know if that's ptsd.
1363
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,467
Something is to that.
I don't know if that's ptsd.
I don't know if it's, like,
1364
00:38:57,469 --> 00:38:59,402
I don't know if that's ptsd.
I don't know if it's, like,
I'm taking on too many things.
1365
00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:01,271
I don't know if it's, like,
I'm taking on too many things.
But I just tend to brp-brp-brp,
1366
00:39:01,273 --> 00:39:03,139
I'm taking on too many things.
But I just tend to brp-brp-brp,
'cause I'm eating and I need to
1367
00:39:03,141 --> 00:39:04,641
but I just tend to brp-brp-brp,
'cause I'm eating and I need to
self-soothe in some way.
1368
00:39:04,643 --> 00:39:07,410
'cause I'm eating and I need to
self-soothe in some way.
When I started directing, I felt
1369
00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:10,847
self-soothe in some way.
When I started directing, I felt
confident and stronger and
1370
00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:12,882
when I started directing, I felt
confident and stronger and
not self-soothing as much.
1371
00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:16,553
Confident and stronger and
not self-soothing as much.
And so, yeah, I know when I
1372
00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:18,021
not self-soothing as much.
And so, yeah, I know when I
start to get teary-eyed and
1373
00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:19,723
and so, yeah, I know when I
start to get teary-eyed and
verklempt, I say, "oh, no,
1374
00:39:19,725 --> 00:39:21,024
start to get teary-eyed and
verklempt, I say, "oh, no,
something's wrong."
1375
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:25,662
verklempt, I say, "oh, no,
something's wrong."
the ideal is to be...
1376
00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:28,298
Something's wrong."
the ideal is to be...
One of the most in-demand
1377
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,533
the ideal is to be...
One of the most in-demand
sitcom directors.
1378
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:34,170
One of the most in-demand
sitcom directors.
There's probably this many
1379
00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:37,841
sitcom directors.
There's probably this many
black female sitcom directors
1380
00:39:37,843 --> 00:39:40,009
there's probably this many
black female sitcom directors
with the track record that I'm
1381
00:39:40,011 --> 00:39:41,478
black female sitcom directors
with the track record that I'm
intending to have.
1382
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,146
With the track record that I'm
intending to have.
But, ultimately, I want to be
1383
00:39:43,148 --> 00:39:44,881
intending to have.
But, ultimately, I want to be
able to take what I've learned
1384
00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:49,619
but, ultimately, I want to be
able to take what I've learned
for the past 35 years, and...
1385
00:39:49,621 --> 00:39:52,322
Able to take what I've learned
for the past 35 years, and...
Rework how it's done, in a way.
1386
00:39:52,324 --> 00:39:53,423
For the past 35 years, and...
Rework how it's done, in a way.
When I was on "the cosby show"
1387
00:39:53,425 --> 00:39:54,557
rework how it's done, in a way.
When I was on "the cosby show"
and "hangin' with mr. Cooper,"
1388
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,459
when I was on "the cosby show"
and "hangin' with mr. Cooper,"
there was a respect,
1389
00:39:56,461 --> 00:39:58,928
and "hangin' with mr. Cooper,"
there was a respect,
understanding, protocol, and
1390
00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:01,664
there was a respect,
understanding, protocol, and
time management that has gotten
1391
00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:04,234
understanding, protocol, and
time management that has gotten
away from sitcoms in general,
1392
00:40:04,236 --> 00:40:05,435
time management that has gotten
away from sitcoms in general,
and I don't like it.
1393
00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:07,003
Away from sitcoms in general,
and I don't like it.
And I want to bring it back
1394
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,772
and I don't like it.
And I want to bring it back
to the old school while putting
1395
00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:09,639
and I want to bring it back
to the old school while putting
a spin on it.
1396
00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:11,574
To the old school while putting
a spin on it.
And I think that coming from
1397
00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:13,543
a spin on it.
And I think that coming from
someone who has been a child
1398
00:40:13,545 --> 00:40:15,712
and I think that coming from
someone who has been a child
star, so I know times and I know
1399
00:40:15,714 --> 00:40:17,714
someone who has been a child
star, so I know times and I know
this, but also someone that's
1400
00:40:17,716 --> 00:40:19,449
star, so I know times and I know
this, but also someone that's
now been behind the scenes and
1401
00:40:19,451 --> 00:40:21,050
this, but also someone that's
now been behind the scenes and
working with the company, I
1402
00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:22,852
now been behind the scenes and
working with the company, I
think I have a very interesting
1403
00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:24,320
working with the company, I
think I have a very interesting
way of looking at stuff.
1404
00:40:24,322 --> 00:40:26,990
Think I have a very interesting
way of looking at stuff.
Um, ron howard, jodie foster
1405
00:40:26,992 --> 00:40:28,358
way of looking at stuff.
Um, ron howard, jodie foster
world -- I'm trying to
1406
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,659
um, ron howard, jodie foster
world -- I'm trying to
[clicks tongue] get there.
1407
00:40:29,661 --> 00:40:32,629
World -- I'm trying to
[clicks tongue] get there.
And then I have...
1408
00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:35,231
[clicks tongue] get there.
And then I have...
That thing where...
1409
00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:36,900
And then I have...
That thing where...
I can't fully not be in front of
1410
00:40:36,902 --> 00:40:38,234
that thing where...
I can't fully not be in front of
the camera, 'cause that's
1411
00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:38,968
I can't fully not be in front of
the camera, 'cause that's
all I know.
1412
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:40,236
The camera, 'cause that's
all I know.
So, youtube.
1413
00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:41,938
All I know.
So, youtube.
But it's on my own terms.
1414
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,206
So, youtube.
But it's on my own terms.
It's just stuff that's coming
1415
00:40:43,208 --> 00:40:44,140
but it's on my own terms.
It's just stuff that's coming
out of my own mouth.
1416
00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:47,811
It's just stuff that's coming
out of my own mouth.
It's not shined-up and spit and
1417
00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:49,612
out of my own mouth.
It's not shined-up and spit and
edited 17 million times
1418
00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:51,314
it's not shined-up and spit and
edited 17 million times
in a week's worth of rehearsal.
1419
00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:52,949
Edited 17 million times
in a week's worth of rehearsal.
It feels better to me.
1420
00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:54,117
In a week's worth of rehearsal.
It feels better to me.
It feels real.
1421
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:56,052
It feels better to me.
It feels real.
It feels like the next step
1422
00:40:56,054 --> 00:40:59,289
it feels real.
It feels like the next step
in who raven-symoné is, as the
1423
00:40:59,291 --> 00:41:00,890
it feels like the next step
in who raven-symoné is, as the
person you enjoy watching,
1424
00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:02,258
in who raven-symoné is, as the
person you enjoy watching,
because I'm tired of playing
1425
00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:03,059
person you enjoy watching,
because I'm tired of playing
somebody else.
1426
00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:04,661
Because I'm tired of playing
somebody else.
So that's why that's happening.
1427
00:41:04,663 --> 00:41:06,262
Somebody else.
So that's why that's happening.
There's more to life than
1428
00:41:06,264 --> 00:41:07,297
so that's why that's happening.
There's more to life than
hollywood, yo.
1429
00:41:07,299 --> 00:41:08,565
There's more to life than
hollywood, yo.
There's more to life than
1430
00:41:08,567 --> 00:41:10,133
hollywood, yo.
There's more to life than
hollywood, and we get caught up
1431
00:41:10,135 --> 00:41:11,701
there's more to life than
hollywood, and we get caught up
and we continue to try to follow
1432
00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:12,035
hollywood, and we get caught up
and we continue to try to follow
the carrot.
1433
00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:14,337
And sometimes that carrot is
1434
00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:18,908
just a very, very, very shiny
1435
00:41:19,043 --> 00:41:19,742
hologram.
1436
00:41:19,877 --> 00:41:21,144
It's not even real.
1437
00:41:21,278 --> 00:41:22,011
It's changing, though.
1438
00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:23,146
Hollywood is changing -- some
1439
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,247
stuff that's a wild wild west
1440
00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:24,747
out there.
1441
00:41:24,882 --> 00:41:25,582
You know what I mean?
1442
00:41:25,716 --> 00:41:27,717
Like, there are so many other
1443
00:41:27,852 --> 00:41:29,385
ways to become famous.
1444
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,455
So the journey has changed.
1445
00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:34,657
But, ultimately, it's still
1446
00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:38,595
a manufactured piece of work
1447
00:41:38,729 --> 00:41:41,331
for entertainment.
1448
00:41:41,465 --> 00:41:43,266
What you see on television
1449
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,767
is not real.
1450
00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:45,001
Sorry.