1 00:00:00,367 --> 00:00:04,570 >> raven-symoné: I think there's definitely a child-star curse. I don't think I avoided it. 2 00:00:04,572 --> 00:00:06,338 Definitely a child-star curse. I don't think I avoided it. I think there are many type of 3 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:07,906 I don't think I avoided it. I think there are many type of curses that happens with a 4 00:00:07,908 --> 00:00:08,707 I think there are many type of curses that happens with a child star. 5 00:00:08,709 --> 00:00:10,743 Curses that happens with a child star. The ones that the public sees 6 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:12,845 child star. The ones that the public sees are, you know, drug addiction, 7 00:00:12,847 --> 00:00:14,279 the ones that the public sees are, you know, drug addiction, "my life is crap," you know, 8 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:15,814 are, you know, drug addiction, "my life is crap," you know, "my parents stole my money" -- 9 00:00:15,816 --> 00:00:16,782 "my life is crap," you know, "my parents stole my money" -- that whole thing. 10 00:00:16,784 --> 00:00:18,250 "my parents stole my money" -- that whole thing. Then there's another one. 11 00:00:18,252 --> 00:00:19,618 That whole thing. Then there's another one. That's a small group of 12 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:21,387 then there's another one. That's a small group of child stars who had parents that 13 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:23,088 that's a small group of child stars who had parents that did not steal from them, that, 14 00:00:23,090 --> 00:00:24,890 child stars who had parents that did not steal from them, that, you know, really have their head 15 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:25,724 did not steal from them, that, you know, really have their head on straight. 16 00:00:25,726 --> 00:00:27,459 You know, really have their head on straight. Doesn't mean that we don't have 17 00:00:27,461 --> 00:00:28,260 on straight. Doesn't mean that we don't have issues. 18 00:00:28,262 --> 00:00:31,063 Doesn't mean that we don't have issues. Depression, mental instability, 19 00:00:31,065 --> 00:00:33,866 issues. Depression, mental instability, dissociation disorder -- a very 20 00:00:33,868 --> 00:00:37,336 depression, mental instability, dissociation disorder -- a very skewed way of understanding 21 00:00:37,338 --> 00:00:38,871 dissociation disorder -- a very skewed way of understanding that we are now -- well, that 22 00:00:38,873 --> 00:00:39,872 skewed way of understanding that we are now -- well, that I'm now an adult. 23 00:00:39,874 --> 00:00:41,340 That we are now -- well, that I'm now an adult. I have a little bit of arrested 24 00:00:41,342 --> 00:00:42,674 I'm now an adult. I have a little bit of arrested development when it comes to 25 00:00:42,676 --> 00:00:43,075 I have a little bit of arrested development when it comes to that. 26 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:45,110 Development when it comes to that. At times, I feel 70 years old, 27 00:00:45,112 --> 00:00:46,912 that. At times, I feel 70 years old, but then, at times, I feel 28 00:00:46,914 --> 00:00:47,913 at times, I feel 70 years old, but then, at times, I feel 4 years old. 29 00:00:47,915 --> 00:00:49,314 But then, at times, I feel 4 years old. I can be in a room full of 30 00:00:49,316 --> 00:00:50,783 4 years old. I can be in a room full of adults -- even though I'm an 31 00:00:50,785 --> 00:00:52,184 I can be in a room full of adults -- even though I'm an adult, I still call adults 32 00:00:52,186 --> 00:00:52,818 adults -- even though I'm an adult, I still call adults "adults." 33 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:54,219 adult, I still call adults "adults." I can be in a room full of 34 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:55,888 "adults." I can be in a room full of adults and be like, "y'all have 35 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:57,289 I can be in a room full of adults and be like, "y'all have no idea what's going on," 36 00:00:57,291 --> 00:00:59,291 adults and be like, "y'all have no idea what's going on," because, at a very young age, 37 00:00:59,293 --> 00:01:01,393 no idea what's going on," because, at a very young age, I was in a room full of adults 38 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:03,095 because, at a very young age, I was in a room full of adults and had to act that way. 39 00:01:03,097 --> 00:01:04,797 I was in a room full of adults and had to act that way. And then there's... 40 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:05,664 And had to act that way. And then there's... [ sighs ] 41 00:01:05,666 --> 00:01:06,832 and then there's... [ sighs ] it's -- it's deep, right? 42 00:01:06,834 --> 00:01:09,134 [ sighs ] it's -- it's deep, right? So, there's, um -- there's also 43 00:01:09,136 --> 00:01:11,136 it's -- it's deep, right? So, there's, um -- there's also that situation where you're 44 00:01:11,138 --> 00:01:13,439 so, there's, um -- there's also that situation where you're super young; you are on a show; 45 00:01:13,441 --> 00:01:15,074 that situation where you're super young; you are on a show; you know how much you're making, 46 00:01:15,076 --> 00:01:16,742 super young; you are on a show; you know how much you're making, you know what it comes with; you 47 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:18,110 you know how much you're making, you know what it comes with; you know all the journeys; you 48 00:01:18,112 --> 00:01:19,611 you know what it comes with; you know all the journeys; you follow rules better than any 49 00:01:19,613 --> 00:01:21,246 know all the journeys; you follow rules better than any other child in your age bracket, 50 00:01:21,248 --> 00:01:22,815 follow rules better than any other child in your age bracket, whether in normal school or not, 51 00:01:22,817 --> 00:01:24,283 other child in your age bracket, whether in normal school or not, because it's a television show 52 00:01:24,285 --> 00:01:25,484 whether in normal school or not, because it's a television show and this is a business. 53 00:01:25,486 --> 00:01:26,985 Because it's a television show and this is a business. But at the same time, you have 54 00:01:26,987 --> 00:01:28,387 and this is a business. But at the same time, you have to go home, clean your room, 55 00:01:28,389 --> 00:01:29,655 but at the same time, you have to go home, clean your room, get in trouble, make sure 56 00:01:29,657 --> 00:01:30,389 to go home, clean your room, get in trouble, make sure you get a's. 57 00:01:30,391 --> 00:01:32,057 Get in trouble, make sure you get a's. And you're like, "but hold up. 58 00:01:32,059 --> 00:01:33,826 You get a's. And you're like, "but hold up. I make the money. I'm confused." 59 00:01:33,828 --> 00:01:35,227 and you're like, "but hold up. I make the money. I'm confused." but then you still have to, 60 00:01:35,229 --> 00:01:36,562 I make the money. I'm confused." but then you still have to, like, go into child-head. 61 00:01:36,564 --> 00:01:38,864 But then you still have to, like, go into child-head. So I think there is a different 62 00:01:38,866 --> 00:01:41,066 like, go into child-head. So I think there is a different kind of curse, again, that is 63 00:01:41,068 --> 00:01:44,303 so I think there is a different kind of curse, again, that is not as overt, but it does 64 00:01:44,305 --> 00:01:46,238 kind of curse, again, that is not as overt, but it does have friction in life, later. 65 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,308 -- Captions by vitac -- www.Vitac.Com 66 00:01:49,509 --> 00:01:56,815 ♪ 67 00:01:56,950 --> 00:02:04,456 ♪ 68 00:02:04,591 --> 00:02:12,731 ♪ 69 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:13,031 [ static ] 70 00:02:15,235 --> 00:02:18,504 [ rapping ] ♪ take a pick, wide kick ♪ ♪ a dr. Seuss mix ♪ 71 00:02:18,506 --> 00:02:19,638 wide kick ♪ ♪ a dr. Seuss mix ♪ ♪ ting-a-ling-a boom ♪ 72 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:20,772 ♪ a dr. 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The person I am, my book is 82 00:02:33,888 --> 00:02:35,621 in your book. The person I am, my book is available for all to read 83 00:02:35,623 --> 00:02:36,655 the person I am, my book is available for all to read at all times. 84 00:02:36,657 --> 00:02:38,123 Available for all to read at all times. So if I don't want an 85 00:02:38,125 --> 00:02:40,058 at all times. So if I don't want an embarrassing chapter, get your 86 00:02:40,060 --> 00:02:42,060 so if I don't want an embarrassing chapter, get your [bleep] together and don't have 87 00:02:42,062 --> 00:02:43,695 embarrassing chapter, get your [bleep] together and don't have an embarrassing chapter. 88 00:02:43,697 --> 00:02:46,331 [bleep] together and don't have an embarrassing chapter. So, while that can lead to me 89 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:49,134 an embarrassing chapter. So, while that can lead to me not going out and having a full 90 00:02:49,136 --> 00:02:51,837 so, while that can lead to me not going out and having a full 21-year-old blow-out party or, 91 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:53,038 not going out and having a full 21-year-old blow-out party or, you know, get caught in the 92 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,273 21-year-old blow-out party or, you know, get caught in the streets with my skirt up and 93 00:02:54,275 --> 00:02:55,674 you know, get caught in the streets with my skirt up and doin' some crazy [bleep], I'm at 94 00:02:55,676 --> 00:02:58,377 streets with my skirt up and doin' some crazy [bleep], I'm at home, making sure my chapters 95 00:02:58,379 --> 00:03:00,612 doin' some crazy [bleep], I'm at home, making sure my chapters are good, and grinding. 96 00:03:00,614 --> 00:03:01,914 Home, making sure my chapters are good, and grinding. So there's a way out. 97 00:03:01,916 --> 00:03:03,215 Are good, and grinding. So there's a way out. Don't get it twisted. 98 00:03:03,217 --> 00:03:04,449 So there's a way out. Don't get it twisted. I have my fun times. 99 00:03:04,451 --> 00:03:06,518 Don't get it twisted. I have my fun times. I just have them in my own house 100 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,953 I have my fun times. I just have them in my own house with an nda before people come 101 00:03:07,955 --> 00:03:09,354 I just have them in my own house with an nda before people come in, 'cause, honey, if you talk 102 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:10,889 with an nda before people come in, 'cause, honey, if you talk to a couple people in l.A., they 103 00:03:10,891 --> 00:03:12,224 in, 'cause, honey, if you talk to a couple people in l.A., they know about my house parties. 104 00:03:12,226 --> 00:03:13,258 To a couple people in l.A., they know about my house parties. So it's not a game. 105 00:03:13,260 --> 00:03:14,760 Know about my house parties. So it's not a game. I know how to get through it. 106 00:03:14,762 --> 00:03:16,495 So it's not a game. I know how to get through it. But I'm also not the one that 107 00:03:16,497 --> 00:03:18,330 I know how to get through it. But I'm also not the one that searches out for the paparazzi, 108 00:03:18,332 --> 00:03:20,098 but I'm also not the one that searches out for the paparazzi, 'cause I know what can happen. 109 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,400 Searches out for the paparazzi, 'cause I know what can happen. And you see it every day. 110 00:03:21,402 --> 00:03:22,801 'cause I know what can happen. And you see it every day. And I'll probably get my ass 111 00:03:22,803 --> 00:03:24,336 and you see it every day. And I'll probably get my ass whupped by my mama if anything 112 00:03:24,338 --> 00:03:25,938 and I'll probably get my ass whupped by my mama if anything comes out like that, and I'm 35, 113 00:03:25,940 --> 00:03:27,306 whupped by my mama if anything comes out like that, and I'm 35, so I don't really have time 114 00:03:27,308 --> 00:03:27,906 comes out like that, and I'm 35, so I don't really have time for that. 115 00:03:27,908 --> 00:03:28,907 So I don't really have time for that. I got [bleep] to do. 116 00:03:28,909 --> 00:03:30,976 For that. I got [bleep] to do. The story goes that when I was 117 00:03:30,978 --> 00:03:32,911 I got [bleep] to do. The story goes that when I was being pushed in a stroller, 118 00:03:32,913 --> 00:03:34,746 the story goes that when I was being pushed in a stroller, people used to think I was 119 00:03:34,748 --> 00:03:36,949 being pushed in a stroller, people used to think I was a doll, and so my parents got me 120 00:03:36,951 --> 00:03:37,783 people used to think I was a doll, and so my parents got me into modeling. 121 00:03:37,785 --> 00:03:39,418 A doll, and so my parents got me into modeling. You know, my father really loved 122 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:40,819 into modeling. You know, my father really loved "the cosby show," my mother 123 00:03:40,821 --> 00:03:42,354 you know, my father really loved "the cosby show," my mother really loved "the cosby show," 124 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:43,655 "the cosby show," my mother really loved "the cosby show," so they watched it a lot. 125 00:03:43,657 --> 00:03:45,190 Really loved "the cosby show," so they watched it a lot. And the story goes -- I have 126 00:03:45,192 --> 00:03:46,825 so they watched it a lot. And the story goes -- I have no clue -- I don't remember -- 127 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:48,527 and the story goes -- I have no clue -- I don't remember -- but that I got up one day and I 128 00:03:48,529 --> 00:03:49,928 no clue -- I don't remember -- but that I got up one day and I said, "I can do what rudy 129 00:03:49,930 --> 00:03:50,529 but that I got up one day and I said, "I can do what rudy can do." 130 00:03:50,531 --> 00:03:52,264 said, "I can do what rudy can do." and sohey sold everything they 131 00:03:52,266 --> 00:03:53,865 can do." and sohey sold everything they had, got in this car, which I 132 00:03:53,867 --> 00:03:55,601 and sohey sold everything they had, got in this car, which I kinda remember, because I sat in 133 00:03:55,603 --> 00:03:57,236 had, got in this car, which I kinda remember, because I sat in the back seat and it had these 134 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:59,338 kinda remember, because I sat in the back seat and it had these wings on the -- on the, uh, 135 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:00,439 the back seat and it had these wings on the -- on the, uh, back window. 136 00:04:00,441 --> 00:04:01,506 Wings on the -- on the, uh, back window. Super 1980s car. 137 00:04:01,508 --> 00:04:03,342 Back window. Super 1980s car. I don't know what it was, but it 138 00:04:03,344 --> 00:04:05,043 super 1980s car. I don't know what it was, but it was not my favorite to sit in 139 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:06,612 I don't know what it was, but it was not my favorite to sit in the back, 'cause it wasn't 140 00:04:06,614 --> 00:04:07,212 was not my favorite to sit in the back, 'cause it wasn't a seat. 141 00:04:07,214 --> 00:04:09,348 The back, 'cause it wasn't a seat. Anyway, drove to new york, 142 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:11,483 a seat. Anyway, drove to new york, signed with elite modeling 143 00:04:11,485 --> 00:04:13,485 anyway, drove to new york, signed with elite modeling agency, went on a lot of 144 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:15,854 signed with elite modeling agency, went on a lot of different auditions, lived in 145 00:04:15,856 --> 00:04:18,123 agency, went on a lot of different auditions, lived in queens -- not very high-end. 146 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:20,058 Different auditions, lived in queens -- not very high-end. We didn't have a lot of money, 147 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:21,693 queens -- not very high-end. We didn't have a lot of money, so beanee weenees was my 148 00:04:21,695 --> 00:04:23,729 we didn't have a lot of money, so beanee weenees was my favorite meal in a little pot -- 149 00:04:23,731 --> 00:04:25,397 so beanee weenees was my favorite meal in a little pot -- hot dogs and baked beans. 150 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:28,267 Favorite meal in a little pot -- hot dogs and baked beans. And, um, you know, really 151 00:04:28,269 --> 00:04:28,800 hot dogs and baked beans. And, um, you know, really pushed. 152 00:04:28,802 --> 00:04:30,235 And, um, you know, really pushed. My dad really wanted to make 153 00:04:30,237 --> 00:04:31,637 pushed. My dad really wanted to make sure that the world knew my 154 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:33,038 my dad really wanted to make sure that the world knew my name, not just my character 155 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,472 sure that the world knew my name, not just my character name. 156 00:04:33,474 --> 00:04:35,073 Name, not just my character name. So, every opportunity that came 157 00:04:35,075 --> 00:04:36,608 name. So, every opportunity that came across our desk, as long as it 158 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:38,110 so, every opportunity that came across our desk, as long as it really furthered the brand of 159 00:04:38,112 --> 00:04:39,311 across our desk, as long as it really furthered the brand of raven-symoné, he took. 160 00:04:39,313 --> 00:04:41,179 Really furthered the brand of raven-symoné, he took. And I was right there, learning 161 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:42,614 raven-symoné, he took. And I was right there, learning my lines, making sure I 162 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:43,382 and I was right there, learning my lines, making sure I performed. 163 00:04:43,384 --> 00:04:45,350 My lines, making sure I performed. As my parents said, it's time to 164 00:04:45,352 --> 00:04:46,385 performed. As my parents said, it's time to razzle-dazzle. 165 00:04:46,387 --> 00:04:47,686 As my parents said, it's time to razzle-dazzle. So, that -- if anybody says that 166 00:04:47,688 --> 00:04:48,854 razzle-dazzle. So, that -- if anybody says that to me, I go, "hey, what's up? 167 00:04:48,856 --> 00:04:49,488 So, that -- if anybody says that to me, I go, "hey, what's up? How are you? Nice to see you." 168 00:04:50,890 --> 00:04:52,157 like, I turn it on in a weird 169 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,325 way, which I'm learning 170 00:04:53,459 --> 00:04:54,326 how not to anymore. 171 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:55,694 But, yeah. 172 00:04:55,828 --> 00:04:58,664 My memory of childhood really 173 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:01,933 starts with the blue flooring 174 00:05:02,068 --> 00:05:04,536 on "the cosby show," walking 175 00:05:04,671 --> 00:05:07,272 into the studio, and the smell 176 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:09,875 of the sawdust at the studio 177 00:05:10,009 --> 00:05:10,142 itself. 178 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:15,247 Minimal, minimal memories of school. A few memories of the place 179 00:05:15,249 --> 00:05:16,982 school. A few memories of the place where I lived in new york. 180 00:05:16,984 --> 00:05:21,853 A few memories of the place where I lived in new york. But mostly just blacked out. 181 00:05:21,855 --> 00:05:23,522 Where I lived in new york. But mostly just blacked out. I have to be honest. 182 00:05:23,524 --> 00:05:25,991 But mostly just blacked out. I have to be honest. My memory of my childhood in the 183 00:05:25,993 --> 00:05:28,493 I have to be honest. My memory of my childhood in the industry is very minimal. 184 00:05:28,495 --> 00:05:30,929 My memory of my childhood in the industry is very minimal. I have association disorder. 185 00:05:30,931 --> 00:05:31,630 Industry is very minimal. I have association disorder. [ chuckles ] 186 00:05:31,632 --> 00:05:33,131 I have association disorder. [ chuckles ] I tend to forget stuff quickly, 187 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:34,599 [ chuckles ] I tend to forget stuff quickly, except for scripts and how much 188 00:05:34,601 --> 00:05:35,400 I tend to forget stuff quickly, except for scripts and how much that check is. 189 00:05:35,402 --> 00:05:37,302 Except for scripts and how much that check is. I think I forget a lot of my 190 00:05:37,304 --> 00:05:39,004 that check is. I think I forget a lot of my childhood because it was 191 00:05:39,006 --> 00:05:40,672 I think I forget a lot of my childhood because it was intertwined with so many 192 00:05:40,674 --> 00:05:44,343 childhood because it was intertwined with so many personal journeys and, uh, 193 00:05:44,345 --> 00:05:46,745 intertwined with so many personal journeys and, uh, things that I just kind of want 194 00:05:46,747 --> 00:05:49,781 personal journeys and, uh, things that I just kind of want to forget in general, plus jobs. 195 00:05:49,783 --> 00:05:52,451 Things that I just kind of want to forget in general, plus jobs. Being young on a set, and having 196 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:55,020 to forget in general, plus jobs. Being young on a set, and having to learn upwards of 20 pages of 197 00:05:55,022 --> 00:05:56,555 being young on a set, and having to learn upwards of 20 pages of script each week, and then 198 00:05:56,557 --> 00:05:58,123 to learn upwards of 20 pages of script each week, and then purging to learn another 20 199 00:05:58,125 --> 00:06:01,460 script each week, and then purging to learn another 20 pages each week, kind of preps 200 00:06:01,462 --> 00:06:03,628 purging to learn another 20 pages each week, kind of preps the brain for just keeping what 201 00:06:03,630 --> 00:06:04,663 pages each week, kind of preps the brain for just keeping what it needs to. 202 00:06:04,665 --> 00:06:07,432 The brain for just keeping what it needs to. So it's not very pleasurable 203 00:06:07,434 --> 00:06:09,134 it needs to. So it's not very pleasurable now, 'cause I get asked, "hey, 204 00:06:09,136 --> 00:06:10,369 so it's not very pleasurable now, 'cause I get asked, "hey, do you remember me?" 205 00:06:10,371 --> 00:06:12,838 now, 'cause I get asked, "hey, do you remember me?" I'm like, "mm-hmm." 206 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,272 do you remember me?" I'm like, "mm-hmm." so, when I was younger, on 207 00:06:14,274 --> 00:06:15,774 I'm like, "mm-hmm." so, when I was younger, on "the cosby show," they would 208 00:06:15,776 --> 00:06:17,275 so, when I was younger, on "the cosby show," they would bring us a script on Monday. 209 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:19,010 "the cosby show," they would bring us a script on Monday. My parents would read me the 210 00:06:19,012 --> 00:06:20,812 bring us a script on Monday. My parents would read me the script at night, and my lines, 211 00:06:20,814 --> 00:06:22,547 my parents would read me the script at night, and my lines, every night before I went to 212 00:06:22,549 --> 00:06:23,115 script at night, and my lines, every night before I went to sleep. 213 00:06:23,117 --> 00:06:24,816 Every night before I went to sleep. And my prayer was, "now I lay me 214 00:06:24,818 --> 00:06:25,684 sleep. And my prayer was, "now I lay me down to sleep. 215 00:06:25,686 --> 00:06:27,386 And my prayer was, "now I lay me down to sleep. I pray the lord my soul to keep. 216 00:06:27,388 --> 00:06:28,420 Down to sleep. I pray the lord my soul to keep. And if I die before I wake, 217 00:06:28,422 --> 00:06:29,554 I pray the lord my soul to keep. And if I die before I wake, I pray the lord my soul to take. 218 00:06:29,556 --> 00:06:30,655 And if I die before I wake, I pray the lord my soul to take. God bless mommy, god bless 219 00:06:30,657 --> 00:06:31,823 I pray the lord my soul to take. God bless mommy, god bless daddy, god bless grandmama, 220 00:06:31,825 --> 00:06:32,824 god bless mommy, god bless daddy, god bless grandmama, god bless grandma lulu. 221 00:06:32,826 --> 00:06:34,159 Daddy, god bless grandmama, god bless grandma lulu. Help me say my lines, help me 222 00:06:34,161 --> 00:06:35,627 god bless grandma lulu. Help me say my lines, help me concentrate on my lines, help me 223 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:36,762 help me say my lines, help me concentrate on my lines, help me have a beautiful smile. 224 00:06:36,764 --> 00:06:37,429 Concentrate on my lines, help me have a beautiful smile. Good night." 225 00:06:37,431 --> 00:06:38,897 have a beautiful smile. Good night." that would be the last thing 226 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:40,399 good night." that would be the last thing I said to sleep, and then I'd 227 00:06:40,401 --> 00:06:41,900 that would be the last thing I said to sleep, and then I'd wake up, and I knew my lines, 228 00:06:41,902 --> 00:06:43,402 I said to sleep, and then I'd wake up, and I knew my lines, and that's just how I did it. 229 00:06:43,404 --> 00:06:46,071 Wake up, and I knew my lines, and that's just how I did it. So, prayer, [chuckles] I guess. 230 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:48,540 And that's just how I did it. So, prayer, [chuckles] I guess. I think, at a much younger age, 231 00:06:48,542 --> 00:06:50,308 so, prayer, [chuckles] I guess. I think, at a much younger age, it was just, "this is 232 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:51,376 I think, at a much younger age, it was just, "this is what we do. 233 00:06:51,378 --> 00:06:53,845 It was just, "this is what we do. This is who you're going to be. 234 00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:55,414 What we do. This is who you're going to be. You follow it, you listen, you 235 00:06:55,416 --> 00:06:57,082 this is who you're going to be. You follow it, you listen, you pay attention, and you practice. 236 00:06:57,084 --> 00:06:58,383 You follow it, you listen, you pay attention, and you practice. And the world is really 237 00:06:58,385 --> 00:06:59,985 pay attention, and you practice. And the world is really difficult, and we want to make 238 00:06:59,987 --> 00:07:01,520 and the world is really difficult, and we want to make sure that when you get older, 239 00:07:01,522 --> 00:07:03,054 difficult, and we want to make sure that when you get older, you're taken care of and you 240 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:04,689 sure that when you get older, you're taken care of and you have a career that's, you know, 241 00:07:04,691 --> 00:07:05,991 you're taken care of and you have a career that's, you know, sustainable, in a way." 242 00:07:05,993 --> 00:07:07,793 have a career that's, you know, sustainable, in a way." and so I went along for the 243 00:07:07,795 --> 00:07:08,360 sustainable, in a way." and so I went along for the ride. 244 00:07:08,362 --> 00:07:10,061 And so I went along for the ride. I was told how much I was 245 00:07:10,063 --> 00:07:10,729 ride. I was told how much I was making. 246 00:07:10,731 --> 00:07:12,664 I was told how much I was making. I was told that I have taxes. 247 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:14,533 Making. I was told that I have taxes. I was told that, "this is the 248 00:07:14,535 --> 00:07:16,401 I was told that I have taxes. I was told that, "this is the money you make, so you either 249 00:07:16,403 --> 00:07:18,236 I was told that, "this is the money you make, so you either stay in this industry or you 250 00:07:18,238 --> 00:07:20,105 money you make, so you either stay in this industry or you make 1/16 of this, 251 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:22,908 stay in this industry or you make 1/16 of this, [chuckling] with a normal job. 252 00:07:22,910 --> 00:07:23,975 Make 1/16 of this, [chuckling] with a normal job. So what are you gonna do?" 253 00:07:23,977 --> 00:07:26,678 [chuckling] with a normal job. So what are you gonna do?" so it's like, "um, I'll do 254 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:27,746 so what are you gonna do?" so it's like, "um, I'll do 20 minutes of work." 255 00:07:27,748 --> 00:07:28,847 so it's like, "um, I'll do 20 minutes of work." you know what I mean? 256 00:07:28,849 --> 00:07:30,081 20 minutes of work." you know what I mean? Yeah, do I have problems 257 00:07:30,083 --> 00:07:31,583 you know what I mean? Yeah, do I have problems sometimes, and I don't want to 258 00:07:31,585 --> 00:07:32,984 yeah, do I have problems sometimes, and I don't want to do the job, and I don't feel 259 00:07:32,986 --> 00:07:34,586 sometimes, and I don't want to do the job, and I don't feel like this is who I'm supposed to 260 00:07:34,588 --> 00:07:36,154 do the job, and I don't feel like this is who I'm supposed to be on an overall, 'cause this is 261 00:07:36,156 --> 00:07:37,689 like this is who I'm supposed to be on an overall, 'cause this is all I've ever done for the past 262 00:07:37,691 --> 00:07:38,290 be on an overall, 'cause this is all I've ever done for the past 35 years? 263 00:07:38,292 --> 00:07:41,860 All I've ever done for the past 35 years? Yeah, but I also know... 264 00:07:41,862 --> 00:07:45,197 35 years? Yeah, but I also know... That's just where I'm stuck. 265 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:46,765 Yeah, but I also know... That's just where I'm stuck. If anybody wanted to get in the 266 00:07:46,767 --> 00:07:50,802 that's just where I'm stuck. If anybody wanted to get in the industry, I would say... 267 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:52,170 If anybody wanted to get in the industry, I would say... Hollywood can be thicker than 268 00:07:52,172 --> 00:07:54,272 industry, I would say... Hollywood can be thicker than blood sometimes. 269 00:07:54,274 --> 00:07:58,109 Hollywood can be thicker than blood sometimes. And so...Be careful. 270 00:07:58,111 --> 00:07:59,444 Blood sometimes. And so...Be careful. Everybody has great intentions 271 00:07:59,446 --> 00:08:00,545 and so...Be careful. Everybody has great intentions when they come into the 272 00:08:00,547 --> 00:08:01,079 everybody has great intentions when they come into the industry. 273 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:02,280 When they come into the industry. Everybody is like, "I'm gonna, 274 00:08:02,282 --> 00:08:03,448 industry. Everybody is like, "I'm gonna, you know, cater to my child, 275 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:04,549 everybody is like, "I'm gonna, you know, cater to my child, I'm gonna make sure they're 276 00:08:04,551 --> 00:08:05,650 you know, cater to my child, I'm gonna make sure they're good, I'm gonna do this and 277 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:07,385 I'm gonna make sure they're good, I'm gonna do this and do that." 278 00:08:07,387 --> 00:08:08,854 good, I'm gonna do this and do that." but there's a lot of stuff 279 00:08:08,856 --> 00:08:09,521 do that." but there's a lot of stuff involved. 280 00:08:09,523 --> 00:08:10,889 But there's a lot of stuff involved. There's a lot of egos involved. 281 00:08:10,891 --> 00:08:12,824 Involved. There's a lot of egos involved. There's a lot of greed involved 282 00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:14,593 there's a lot of egos involved. There's a lot of greed involved that might not bubble to the 283 00:08:14,595 --> 00:08:16,127 there's a lot of greed involved that might not bubble to the surface in a way that we 284 00:08:16,129 --> 00:08:17,162 that might not bubble to the surface in a way that we typically see. 285 00:08:17,164 --> 00:08:19,598 Surface in a way that we typically see. But it does change the dynamic 286 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,333 typically see. But it does change the dynamic of parent and child. 287 00:08:21,335 --> 00:08:23,134 But it does change the dynamic of parent and child. No doubt about it. 288 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:26,204 Of parent and child. No doubt about it. And I would never put my child 289 00:08:26,206 --> 00:08:29,374 no doubt about it. And I would never put my child in the industry until they were 290 00:08:29,376 --> 00:08:31,877 and I would never put my child in the industry until they were over the age of 15. 291 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:33,979 In the industry until they were over the age of 15. I, um -- I wouldn't do it. 292 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:35,046 Over the age of 15. I, um -- I wouldn't do it. And even then, I'd be like, 293 00:08:35,048 --> 00:08:36,214 I, um -- I wouldn't do it. And even then, I'd be like, "I think you should wait till 294 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:40,519 and even then, I'd be like, "I think you should wait till you're 18, have a life, um, 295 00:08:40,521 --> 00:08:44,556 "I think you should wait till you're 18, have a life, um, because since the age of 3, 296 00:08:44,558 --> 00:08:47,125 you're 18, have a life, um, because since the age of 3, I don't know life is, other than 297 00:08:47,127 --> 00:08:48,026 because since the age of 3, I don't know life is, other than this." 298 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:49,995 I don't know life is, other than this." and you think things are always 299 00:08:49,997 --> 00:08:51,696 this." and you think things are always greener on the other side. 300 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:55,467 And you think things are always greener on the other side. So, when I turned 24, 25, I was 301 00:08:55,469 --> 00:08:56,468 greener on the other side. So, when I turned 24, 25, I was like, "I'm retired. 302 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:57,936 So, when I turned 24, 25, I was like, "I'm retired. I'm gettin' out. I'm over it!" 303 00:08:57,938 --> 00:08:59,771 like, "I'm retired. I'm gettin' out. I'm over it!" and I left, and I sat on the 304 00:08:59,773 --> 00:09:01,740 I'm gettin' out. I'm over it!" and I left, and I sat on the couch, did what I needed to do, 305 00:09:01,742 --> 00:09:03,942 and I left, and I sat on the couch, did what I needed to do, and I was like, "um..." 306 00:09:03,944 --> 00:09:05,977 couch, did what I needed to do, and I was like, "um..." it's like I stopped walking, 307 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:07,546 and I was like, "um..." it's like I stopped walking, 'cause this is all I know. 308 00:09:07,548 --> 00:09:09,347 It's like I stopped walking, 'cause this is all I know. So I went back, 'cause it's just 309 00:09:09,349 --> 00:09:09,948 'cause this is all I know. So I went back, 'cause it's just easier. 310 00:09:09,950 --> 00:09:11,683 So I went back, 'cause it's just easier. So it's like, you know, I-I just 311 00:09:11,685 --> 00:09:13,184 easier. So it's like, you know, I-I just wouldn't put my child in it 312 00:09:13,186 --> 00:09:14,553 so it's like, you know, I-I just wouldn't put my child in it as young as I was in it, 313 00:09:14,555 --> 00:09:14,886 wouldn't put my child in it as young as I was in it, that's all. 314 00:09:19,091 --> 00:09:23,261 >> raven-symoné: Yeah, I -- I chose college because -- I mean, the main reason is 'cause my 315 00:09:23,263 --> 00:09:24,529 chose college because -- I mean, the main reason is 'cause my mama was like, "yeah, you got a 316 00:09:24,531 --> 00:09:25,697 the main reason is 'cause my mama was like, "yeah, you got a show, yeah, you met this one, 317 00:09:25,699 --> 00:09:26,865 mama was like, "yeah, you got a show, yeah, you met this one, but you didn't go to college. 318 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:28,300 Show, yeah, you met this one, but you didn't go to college. And everybody in the family did, 319 00:09:28,302 --> 00:09:28,934 but you didn't go to college. And everybody in the family did, except you." 320 00:09:28,936 --> 00:09:30,268 and everybody in the family did, except you." and I was like, "but I -- but 321 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:30,802 except you." and I was like, "but I -- but I did --" 322 00:09:30,804 --> 00:09:31,269 and I was like, "but I -- but I did --" she went, "mnh-mnh." 323 00:09:32,305 --> 00:09:33,305 so I'm like, "okay, mom." 324 00:09:33,439 --> 00:09:34,439 and I needed to go to college, 325 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:35,674 too, because, otherwise, I would 326 00:09:35,808 --> 00:09:36,775 just sit on my [bleep] on the 327 00:09:36,909 --> 00:09:37,008 couch. 328 00:09:38,010 --> 00:09:44,215 I needed something to do, to grow my entertainment mind, my artistic mind, and I always 329 00:09:44,217 --> 00:09:44,749 grow my entertainment mind, my artistic mind, and I always drew. 330 00:09:44,751 --> 00:09:46,284 My artistic mind, and I always drew. I drew on all of my scripts 331 00:09:46,286 --> 00:09:47,452 drew. I drew on all of my scripts when I was younger. 332 00:09:47,454 --> 00:09:48,620 I drew on all of my scripts when I was younger. My mom, when I was going through 333 00:09:48,622 --> 00:09:49,454 when I was younger. My mom, when I was going through a lot of stress during 334 00:09:49,456 --> 00:09:50,455 my mom, when I was going through a lot of stress during "hanging' with mr. Cooper," 335 00:09:50,457 --> 00:09:51,623 a lot of stress during "hanging' with mr. Cooper," I used to break out in 336 00:09:51,625 --> 00:09:52,891 "hanging' with mr. Cooper," I used to break out in fever blisters and hives. 337 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:55,193 I used to break out in fever blisters and hives. My mom would take me to do 338 00:09:55,195 --> 00:09:57,562 fever blisters and hives. My mom would take me to do pottery, and she took me to 339 00:09:57,564 --> 00:09:58,830 my mom would take me to do pottery, and she took me to art classes. 340 00:09:58,832 --> 00:10:00,432 Pottery, and she took me to art classes. And I really thrived. 341 00:10:00,434 --> 00:10:02,734 Art classes. And I really thrived. That's the first time, doing art 342 00:10:02,736 --> 00:10:04,936 and I really thrived. That's the first time, doing art on paper, in sculpture, that I 343 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,138 that's the first time, doing art on paper, in sculpture, that I felt like, "oh, I'm worth more 344 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:09,107 on paper, in sculpture, that I felt like, "oh, I'm worth more than just a character on a 345 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:10,475 felt like, "oh, I'm worth more than just a character on a television show." 346 00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:11,676 than just a character on a television show." I have more to me than just 347 00:10:11,678 --> 00:10:13,011 television show." I have more to me than just being this little actress that 348 00:10:13,013 --> 00:10:14,245 I have more to me than just being this little actress that everybody's known since they 349 00:10:14,247 --> 00:10:15,146 being this little actress that everybody's known since they were 3, and I'm their 350 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:15,814 everybody's known since they were 3, and I'm their little sister. 351 00:10:15,816 --> 00:10:17,616 Were 3, and I'm their little sister. So, that's what art does for me. 352 00:10:17,618 --> 00:10:19,017 Little sister. So, that's what art does for me. I've taken acting, like, 353 00:10:19,019 --> 00:10:20,819 so, that's what art does for me. I've taken acting, like, one-on-one classes for auditions 354 00:10:20,821 --> 00:10:22,621 I've taken acting, like, one-on-one classes for auditions later in life, which really made 355 00:10:22,623 --> 00:10:23,989 one-on-one classes for auditions later in life, which really made me understand that I am not a 356 00:10:23,991 --> 00:10:24,856 later in life, which really made me understand that I am not a dramatic actress. 357 00:10:24,858 --> 00:10:25,557 Me understand that I am not a dramatic actress. Don't do it. 358 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,625 Dramatic actress. Don't do it. I don't like emotions. 359 00:10:26,627 --> 00:10:27,025 Don't do it. I don't like emotions. I tend to hide. 360 00:10:31,764 --> 00:10:36,868 >> raven-symoné: My parents had to make, overtly efforts, to make sure that I understood that 361 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:38,536 to make, overtly efforts, to make sure that I understood that I was the child and that they 362 00:10:38,538 --> 00:10:40,205 make sure that I understood that I was the child and that they were the parent, because, at any 363 00:10:40,207 --> 00:10:41,840 I was the child and that they were the parent, because, at any time, with the responsibilities 364 00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:43,108 were the parent, because, at any time, with the responsibilities that one gets when on a 365 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:44,609 time, with the responsibilities that one gets when on a television show, you can get 366 00:10:44,611 --> 00:10:45,343 that one gets when on a television show, you can get an ego. 367 00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:47,812 Television show, you can get an ego. There is an understanding 368 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:50,515 an ego. There is an understanding that... 369 00:10:50,517 --> 00:10:52,884 There is an understanding that... It's not the same as just a 370 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:54,386 that... It's not the same as just a normal kid that went to school, 371 00:10:54,388 --> 00:10:55,654 it's not the same as just a normal kid that went to school, and your parents did that. 372 00:10:55,656 --> 00:10:57,155 Normal kid that went to school, and your parents did that. But there is a little bit of a 373 00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:58,556 and your parents did that. But there is a little bit of a dynamic, and what that is, I 374 00:10:58,558 --> 00:10:59,991 but there is a little bit of a dynamic, and what that is, I haven't put my finger on yet, 375 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:01,926 dynamic, and what that is, I haven't put my finger on yet, but it's -- it's an underlining 376 00:11:01,928 --> 00:11:02,527 haven't put my finger on yet, but it's -- it's an underlining thing. 377 00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:05,330 But it's -- it's an underlining thing. I'm -- no doubt about it. 378 00:11:05,332 --> 00:11:06,297 Thing. I'm -- no doubt about it. [ clicks tongue ] 379 00:11:06,299 --> 00:11:07,932 I'm -- no doubt about it. [ clicks tongue ] I can only tell you how the 380 00:11:07,934 --> 00:11:09,601 [ clicks tongue ] I can only tell you how the journey to "the cosby show" 381 00:11:09,603 --> 00:11:11,369 I can only tell you how the journey to "the cosby show" happened through folklore that 382 00:11:11,371 --> 00:11:13,271 journey to "the cosby show" happened through folklore that my parents told me how to answer 383 00:11:13,273 --> 00:11:14,773 happened through folklore that my parents told me how to answer that question when I was 384 00:11:14,775 --> 00:11:15,440 my parents told me how to answer that question when I was younger. 385 00:11:15,442 --> 00:11:18,843 That question when I was younger. Um, I do know that they grinded. 386 00:11:18,845 --> 00:11:20,545 Younger. Um, I do know that they grinded. My mom said she worked during 387 00:11:20,547 --> 00:11:22,414 um, I do know that they grinded. My mom said she worked during the night, and my dad took me to 388 00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:23,882 my mom said she worked during the night, and my dad took me to audition during the day, 389 00:11:23,884 --> 00:11:25,417 the night, and my dad took me to audition during the day, or vice versa. 390 00:11:25,419 --> 00:11:28,953 Audition during the day, or vice versa. Every night, understanding that, 391 00:11:28,955 --> 00:11:30,055 or vice versa. Every night, understanding that, "this is a job. 392 00:11:30,057 --> 00:11:31,289 Every night, understanding that, "this is a job. You can't mess up. 393 00:11:31,291 --> 00:11:32,657 "this is a job. You can't mess up. This is not for fun, 394 00:11:32,659 --> 00:11:33,692 you can't mess up. This is not for fun, but it is fun. 395 00:11:33,694 --> 00:11:36,027 This is not for fun, but it is fun. Make sure you respect people. 396 00:11:36,029 --> 00:11:37,328 But it is fun. Make sure you respect people. Don't do this, don't do that." 397 00:11:37,330 --> 00:11:39,731 make sure you respect people. Don't do this, don't do that." it was a lot of rules in place. 398 00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:41,566 Don't do this, don't do that." it was a lot of rules in place. You know, it's doing an album 399 00:11:41,568 --> 00:11:43,501 it was a lot of rules in place. You know, it's doing an album at 5, and staying in the studio 400 00:11:43,503 --> 00:11:45,804 you know, it's doing an album at 5, and staying in the studio until 2:00, 1:00 in the morning, 401 00:11:45,806 --> 00:11:47,338 at 5, and staying in the studio until 2:00, 1:00 in the morning, and you're 5 years old, knowing 402 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:48,840 until 2:00, 1:00 in the morning, and you're 5 years old, knowing that this is the next step in 403 00:11:48,842 --> 00:11:50,375 and you're 5 years old, knowing that this is the next step in your career, so suck it up and 404 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:51,109 that this is the next step in your career, so suck it up and let's do it. 405 00:11:51,111 --> 00:11:55,447 Your career, so suck it up and let's do it. Um, it's, you know, "whoosh." 406 00:11:55,449 --> 00:11:57,148 let's do it. Um, it's, you know, "whoosh." [ laughs ] 407 00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:58,450 um, it's, you know, "whoosh." [ laughs ] you just do what you got to do. 408 00:11:58,452 --> 00:12:00,418 [ laughs ] you just do what you got to do. Honestly, I don't remember. 409 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,854 You just do what you got to do. Honestly, I don't remember. I don't remember working with -- 410 00:12:02,856 --> 00:12:05,256 honestly, I don't remember. I don't remember working with -- I don't remember a scene. 411 00:12:05,258 --> 00:12:08,827 I don't remember working with -- I don't remember a scene. I don't remember... 412 00:12:08,829 --> 00:12:12,297 I don't remember a scene. I don't remember... Anything while it's a rehearsal 413 00:12:12,299 --> 00:12:13,164 I don't remember... Anything while it's a rehearsal or a camera. 414 00:12:13,166 --> 00:12:14,799 Anything while it's a rehearsal or a camera. I remember the smell of the 415 00:12:14,801 --> 00:12:16,468 or a camera. I remember the smell of the soul food coming out of his 416 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:17,435 I remember the smell of the soul food coming out of his dressing room. 417 00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:21,106 Soul food coming out of his dressing room. I remember the -- okay, so, when 418 00:12:21,108 --> 00:12:23,007 dressing room. I remember the -- okay, so, when we opened the show, in front of 419 00:12:23,009 --> 00:12:24,909 I remember the -- okay, so, when we opened the show, in front of a live studio audience, you had 420 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:26,811 we opened the show, in front of a live studio audience, you had to walk up these stairs, and we 421 00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:28,246 a live studio audience, you had to walk up these stairs, and we came down that classic 422 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:29,047 to walk up these stairs, and we came down that classic staircase. 423 00:12:29,049 --> 00:12:31,382 Came down that classic staircase. I remember standing up there 424 00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:33,218 staircase. I remember standing up there and playing with the wood before 425 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:34,052 I remember standing up there and playing with the wood before I went down. 426 00:12:34,054 --> 00:12:36,488 And playing with the wood before I went down. I do not remember as soon as the 427 00:12:36,490 --> 00:12:37,722 I went down. I do not remember as soon as the camera starts. 428 00:12:37,724 --> 00:12:41,860 I do not remember as soon as the camera starts. Something clicks off, and I do 429 00:12:41,862 --> 00:12:43,528 camera starts. Something clicks off, and I do what I'm trained to do. 430 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:45,263 Something clicks off, and I do what I'm trained to do. Yeah, when I turned 18, I knew 431 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:46,631 what I'm trained to do. Yeah, when I turned 18, I knew something was going on. 432 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:48,399 Yeah, when I turned 18, I knew something was going on. So I started going to therapy. 433 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:50,502 Something was going on. So I started going to therapy. And it's dissociation. 434 00:12:50,504 --> 00:12:53,138 So I started going to therapy. And it's dissociation. I just black out, I turn into 435 00:12:53,140 --> 00:12:54,372 and it's dissociation. I just black out, I turn into who I'm supposed to be when the 436 00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:57,642 I just black out, I turn into who I'm supposed to be when the camera's on, um, and then I come 437 00:12:57,644 --> 00:13:00,011 who I'm supposed to be when the camera's on, um, and then I come back to, and "normal life" 438 00:13:00,013 --> 00:13:01,012 camera's on, um, and then I come back to, and "normal life" resumes. 439 00:13:01,014 --> 00:13:03,381 Back to, and "normal life" resumes. Again, it's -- it's bottled up 440 00:13:03,383 --> 00:13:06,785 resumes. Again, it's -- it's bottled up with -- just bottled. 441 00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:08,787 Again, it's -- it's bottled up with -- just bottled. Bottled up. That's all. 442 00:13:08,789 --> 00:13:10,155 With -- just bottled. Bottled up. That's all. [ chuckles ] 443 00:13:10,157 --> 00:13:11,456 bottled up. That's all. [ chuckles ] I will say this -- that, 444 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:12,957 [ chuckles ] I will say this -- that, you know, I don't necessarily 445 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,292 I will say this -- that, you know, I don't necessarily remember what happened on 446 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,260 you know, I don't necessarily remember what happened on "the cosby show." 447 00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:16,728 remember what happened on "the cosby show." however, every human -- 448 00:13:16,730 --> 00:13:18,429 "the cosby show." however, every human -- right? -- As you get older, 449 00:13:18,431 --> 00:13:23,201 however, every human -- right? -- As you get older, you -- you subconsciously 450 00:13:23,203 --> 00:13:24,469 right? -- As you get older, you -- you subconsciously remember what happened when you 451 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:25,737 you -- you subconsciously remember what happened when you were a kid, and you replay these 452 00:13:25,739 --> 00:13:26,304 remember what happened when you were a kid, and you replay these things out. 453 00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:28,139 Were a kid, and you replay these things out. So, working on "raven's home," 454 00:13:28,141 --> 00:13:29,841 things out. So, working on "raven's home," working with kids, I'm just 455 00:13:29,843 --> 00:13:31,676 so, working on "raven's home," working with kids, I'm just doing this stuff, and I'm just 456 00:13:31,678 --> 00:13:33,511 working with kids, I'm just doing this stuff, and I'm just like, "oh, I wonder if this is 457 00:13:33,513 --> 00:13:34,879 doing this stuff, and I'm just like, "oh, I wonder if this is what happened to me." 458 00:13:34,881 --> 00:13:38,183 like, "oh, I wonder if this is what happened to me." it's so important to have a cast 459 00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:40,852 what happened to me." it's so important to have a cast that is jelled appropriately. 460 00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:42,787 It's so important to have a cast that is jelled appropriately. And with that, they place you 461 00:13:42,789 --> 00:13:44,656 that is jelled appropriately. And with that, they place you where you're supposed to be. 462 00:13:44,658 --> 00:13:45,757 And with that, they place you where you're supposed to be. They work with you. 463 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:47,358 Where you're supposed to be. They work with you. Especially knowing that you're 464 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,794 they work with you. Especially knowing that you're younger, I'm sure... 465 00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:51,029 Especially knowing that you're younger, I'm sure... I mean, I still have a great 466 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:51,863 younger, I'm sure... I mean, I still have a great relationship with 467 00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:52,997 I mean, I still have a great relationship with malcolm-jamal warner, and 468 00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:54,032 relationship with malcolm-jamal warner, and I don't even know why. 469 00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:56,034 Malcolm-jamal warner, and I don't even know why. I just know that I adore him. 470 00:13:56,036 --> 00:13:57,535 I don't even know why. I just know that I adore him. I can't really tell you the 471 00:13:57,537 --> 00:13:58,436 I just know that I adore him. I can't really tell you the genesis of it. 472 00:13:58,438 --> 00:14:00,705 I can't really tell you the genesis of it. But I'm sure he helped me when 473 00:14:00,707 --> 00:14:02,740 genesis of it. But I'm sure he helped me when I needed it, and everyone, 474 00:14:02,742 --> 00:14:03,775 but I'm sure he helped me when I needed it, and everyone, vice versa. 475 00:14:03,777 --> 00:14:05,410 I needed it, and everyone, vice versa. So it's the camaraderie on set 476 00:14:05,412 --> 00:14:06,911 vice versa. So it's the camaraderie on set that happens when you have a 477 00:14:06,913 --> 00:14:07,946 so it's the camaraderie on set that happens when you have a family like that. 478 00:14:07,948 --> 00:14:10,315 That happens when you have a family like that. It's the understanding that my 479 00:14:10,317 --> 00:14:12,784 family like that. It's the understanding that my dad would not have it any other 480 00:14:12,786 --> 00:14:15,220 it's the understanding that my dad would not have it any other way, and like, "uh, get in your 481 00:14:15,222 --> 00:14:17,889 dad would not have it any other way, and like, "uh, get in your spot," and it's the discipline 482 00:14:17,891 --> 00:14:18,990 way, and like, "uh, get in your spot," and it's the discipline of it all. 483 00:14:18,992 --> 00:14:20,892 Spot," and it's the discipline of it all. I, without a doubt, believe 484 00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:22,327 of it all. I, without a doubt, believe that everyone was there for the 485 00:14:22,329 --> 00:14:23,728 I, without a doubt, believe that everyone was there for the betterment of the show, and the 486 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:25,029 that everyone was there for the betterment of the show, and the betterment of the show is to 487 00:14:25,031 --> 00:14:26,497 betterment of the show, and the betterment of the show is to make sure your youngest castmate 488 00:14:26,499 --> 00:14:27,565 betterment of the show is to make sure your youngest castmate knows what's going on. 489 00:14:27,567 --> 00:14:29,033 Make sure your youngest castmate knows what's going on. But there was also the 490 00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:30,902 knows what's going on. But there was also the understanding that bill cosby 491 00:14:30,904 --> 00:14:32,904 but there was also the understanding that bill cosby doesn't always stick to scripts. 492 00:14:32,906 --> 00:14:35,306 Understanding that bill cosby doesn't always stick to scripts. So you have to listen in the 493 00:14:35,308 --> 00:14:37,408 doesn't always stick to scripts. So you have to listen in the scene and pay attention. 494 00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:39,244 So you have to listen in the scene and pay attention. And you know, you just got to -- 495 00:14:39,246 --> 00:14:40,712 scene and pay attention. And you know, you just got to -- you got to pay attention. 496 00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:44,249 And you know, you just got to -- you got to pay attention. Only thing I'm scared of, in the 497 00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:46,451 you got to pay attention. Only thing I'm scared of, in the industry, is when I have to 498 00:14:46,453 --> 00:14:48,686 only thing I'm scared of, in the industry, is when I have to accept award or actually be 499 00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:51,022 industry, is when I have to accept award or actually be myself in front of something, 500 00:14:51,024 --> 00:14:52,857 accept award or actually be myself in front of something, because it's not scripted and I 501 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:54,459 myself in front of something, because it's not scripted and I can't fall on the sword of, 502 00:14:54,461 --> 00:14:55,793 because it's not scripted and I can't fall on the sword of, "well, they wrote it. 503 00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:56,261 Can't fall on the sword of, "well, they wrote it. It's not my fault." 504 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:04,302 >> raven-symoné: I think the stress happened for "hangin' with mr. Cooper" 505 00:15:04,304 --> 00:15:05,303 stress happened for "hangin' with mr. Cooper" because I did 506 00:15:05,305 --> 00:15:07,005 "hangin' with mr. Cooper" because I did "hangin' with mr. Cooper" 507 00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:08,373 because I did "hangin' with mr. Cooper" when I was 7 years old to 508 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:09,173 "hangin' with mr. Cooper" when I was 7 years old to 11 years old. 509 00:15:09,175 --> 00:15:11,042 When I was 7 years old to 11 years old. At that time, the conversation 510 00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:12,877 11 years old. At that time, the conversation of weight started to come up, 511 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:14,812 at that time, the conversation of weight started to come up, and, "don't eat this, don't eat 512 00:15:14,814 --> 00:15:16,814 of weight started to come up, and, "don't eat this, don't eat that," and you know, "you have 513 00:15:16,816 --> 00:15:18,750 and, "don't eat this, don't eat that," and you know, "you have to be on point," and it was a 514 00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:20,585 that," and you know, "you have to be on point," and it was a little bit more lackadaisical, 515 00:15:20,587 --> 00:15:24,589 to be on point," and it was a little bit more lackadaisical, and the stress of being around 516 00:15:24,591 --> 00:15:27,191 little bit more lackadaisical, and the stress of being around people that I'm more cognizant 517 00:15:27,193 --> 00:15:29,961 and the stress of being around people that I'm more cognizant of, because I'm not 3 years old. 518 00:15:29,963 --> 00:15:32,196 People that I'm more cognizant of, because I'm not 3 years old. And whatever stress 7-year-olds 519 00:15:32,198 --> 00:15:34,465 of, because I'm not 3 years old. And whatever stress 7-year-olds go through, like, in trying to 520 00:15:34,467 --> 00:15:36,401 and whatever stress 7-year-olds go through, like, in trying to be in a new school and be liked 521 00:15:36,403 --> 00:15:38,403 go through, like, in trying to be in a new school and be liked and whatever, let's magnify that 522 00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:40,271 be in a new school and be liked and whatever, let's magnify that by probably 30 on the fact of, 523 00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:41,706 and whatever, let's magnify that by probably 30 on the fact of, you can't mess up in front of a 524 00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:43,041 by probably 30 on the fact of, you can't mess up in front of a live studio audience, because 525 00:15:43,043 --> 00:15:44,442 you can't mess up in front of a live studio audience, because each show costs about a million 526 00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:45,276 live studio audience, because each show costs about a million dollars to make. 527 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:46,511 Each show costs about a million dollars to make. So you just want to make sure 528 00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:47,512 dollars to make. So you just want to make sure that you don't mess up. 529 00:15:47,514 --> 00:15:49,580 So you just want to make sure that you don't mess up. I'm sure those thought processes 530 00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:51,449 that you don't mess up. I'm sure those thought processes started to permeate within my 531 00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:53,284 I'm sure those thought processes started to permeate within my body, making my stress level 532 00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:54,519 started to permeate within my body, making my stress level go up a lot more. 533 00:15:54,521 --> 00:15:57,088 Body, making my stress level go up a lot more. Yeah, at a younger age, when my 534 00:15:57,090 --> 00:16:00,391 go up a lot more. Yeah, at a younger age, when my weight started to -- when the 535 00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:01,859 yeah, at a younger age, when my weight started to -- when the conversation of weight started 536 00:16:01,861 --> 00:16:06,531 weight started to -- when the conversation of weight started to come into my head, I... 537 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:10,101 Conversation of weight started to come into my head, I... Heard it, didn't understand it, 538 00:16:10,103 --> 00:16:11,769 to come into my head, I... Heard it, didn't understand it, did what I was told, but then, 539 00:16:11,771 --> 00:16:14,272 heard it, didn't understand it, did what I was told, but then, behind the scenes, ate... 540 00:16:14,274 --> 00:16:16,341 Did what I was told, but then, behind the scenes, ate... Because, looking back, that was 541 00:16:16,343 --> 00:16:17,375 behind the scenes, ate... Because, looking back, that was the only thing that I could 542 00:16:17,377 --> 00:16:18,710 because, looking back, that was the only thing that I could really control. 543 00:16:18,712 --> 00:16:20,645 The only thing that I could really control. It was the only thing that I had 544 00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:21,479 really control. It was the only thing that I had for myself. 545 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:23,081 It was the only thing that I had for myself. My clothes were picked, the 546 00:16:23,083 --> 00:16:24,749 for myself. My clothes were picked, the words I was saying out of my 547 00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:26,417 my clothes were picked, the words I was saying out of my mouth were someone else's or 548 00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:28,052 words I was saying out of my mouth were someone else's or practiced multiple times -- 549 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:29,854 mouth were someone else's or practiced multiple times -- interviews plus in front of the 550 00:16:29,856 --> 00:16:31,222 practiced multiple times -- interviews plus in front of the camera. 551 00:16:31,224 --> 00:16:32,390 Interviews plus in front of the camera. Things were just really 552 00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:33,758 camera. Things were just really controlled because you're in 553 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,392 things were just really controlled because you're in hollywood. 554 00:16:34,394 --> 00:16:35,426 Controlled because you're in hollywood. That's what happens. 555 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:36,928 Hollywood. That's what happens. So, food was pretty much the 556 00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:38,529 that's what happens. So, food was pretty much the only thing that I could, so my 557 00:16:38,531 --> 00:16:40,131 so, food was pretty much the only thing that I could, so my favorite was, like, two bagels 558 00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:41,366 only thing that I could, so my favorite was, like, two bagels with cream cheese and tomato in 559 00:16:41,368 --> 00:16:42,000 favorite was, like, two bagels with cream cheese and tomato in the microwave. 560 00:16:42,002 --> 00:16:43,201 With cream cheese and tomato in the microwave. And I just remember like, "she 561 00:16:43,203 --> 00:16:44,168 the microwave. And I just remember like, "she can't eat that anymore!" 562 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:45,470 and I just remember like, "she can't eat that anymore!" and I'm like, "this is, like, 563 00:16:45,472 --> 00:16:46,237 can't eat that anymore!" and I'm like, "this is, like, the only thing. 564 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:46,838 And I'm like, "this is, like, the only thing. I get a's. 565 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,139 The only thing. I get a's. Like, let me have something." 566 00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:50,074 I get a's. Like, let me have something." so it kind of got out of control 567 00:16:50,076 --> 00:16:51,976 like, let me have something." so it kind of got out of control because, as I got older, I could 568 00:16:51,978 --> 00:16:53,644 so it kind of got out of control because, as I got older, I could hide it, and just happened. 569 00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:54,846 Because, as I got older, I could hide it, and just happened. But I look back and I'm like, 570 00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:55,713 hide it, and just happened. But I look back and I'm like, "I wasn't even fat. 571 00:16:55,715 --> 00:16:56,381 But I look back and I'm like, "I wasn't even fat. I'm confused." 572 00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:57,348 "I wasn't even fat. I'm confused." [ laughs ] 573 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:58,950 I'm confused." [ laughs ] whatever. 574 00:16:58,952 --> 00:17:00,385 [ laughs ] whatever. Yeah, I lost 70 pounds. 575 00:17:00,387 --> 00:17:01,786 Whatever. Yeah, I lost 70 pounds. Um, I looked like a bobblehead 576 00:17:01,788 --> 00:17:03,087 yeah, I lost 70 pounds. Um, I looked like a bobblehead back then, when I look back. 577 00:17:03,089 --> 00:17:05,023 Um, I looked like a bobblehead back then, when I look back. I lost weight initially because 578 00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:06,724 back then, when I look back. I lost weight initially because my stress level went down. 579 00:17:06,726 --> 00:17:07,792 I lost weight initially because my stress level went down. The show ended. 580 00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:09,227 My stress level went down. The show ended. And I didn't have to worry about 581 00:17:09,229 --> 00:17:10,528 the show ended. And I didn't have to worry about anything, and things of that 582 00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:11,896 and I didn't have to worry about anything, and things of that nature, and it just kept going 583 00:17:11,898 --> 00:17:12,497 anything, and things of that nature, and it just kept going and going. 584 00:17:12,499 --> 00:17:14,232 Nature, and it just kept going and going. And then I actively did, you 585 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:16,200 and going. And then I actively did, you know, things to make it go away. 586 00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:19,237 And then I actively did, you know, things to make it go away. But every single picture on the 587 00:17:19,239 --> 00:17:21,973 know, things to make it go away. But every single picture on the carpet, every single moment, I 588 00:17:21,975 --> 00:17:24,809 but every single picture on the carpet, every single moment, I was literally cussing everybody 589 00:17:24,811 --> 00:17:27,545 carpet, every single moment, I was literally cussing everybody out, because I remember that a 590 00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:29,313 was literally cussing everybody out, because I remember that a lot more people wanted to talk 591 00:17:29,315 --> 00:17:30,114 out, because I remember that a lot more people wanted to talk to me then. 592 00:17:30,116 --> 00:17:31,616 Lot more people wanted to talk to me then. I got a lot more magazine 593 00:17:31,618 --> 00:17:33,418 to me then. I got a lot more magazine offers, I got a lot more offers 594 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,019 I got a lot more magazine offers, I got a lot more offers for [bleep], and I just was 595 00:17:35,021 --> 00:17:37,288 offers, I got a lot more offers for [bleep], and I just was like, "that's so rude. 596 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:39,057 For [bleep], and I just was like, "that's so rude. That's so rude." 597 00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:40,958 like, "that's so rude. That's so rude." and I would just, like -- my 598 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,827 that's so rude." and I would just, like -- my outfits were like $15 on the 599 00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:43,528 and I would just, like -- my outfits were like $15 on the carpet. 600 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:44,996 Outfits were like $15 on the carpet. I wore, like, the messiest wig 601 00:17:44,998 --> 00:17:46,431 carpet. I wore, like, the messiest wig I could, and I'm like, "y'all 602 00:17:46,433 --> 00:17:47,665 I wore, like, the messiest wig I could, and I'm like, "y'all are still talking to me? 603 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:49,267 I could, and I'm like, "y'all are still talking to me? This is ridiculous. 604 00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:50,768 Are still talking to me? This is ridiculous. Hollywood is a hot mess. 605 00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,570 This is ridiculous. Hollywood is a hot mess. Because I lost that weight and 606 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:54,439 hollywood is a hot mess. Because I lost that weight and you can feel sexually attracted 607 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:57,041 because I lost that weight and you can feel sexually attracted to me in a weird way, you want 608 00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:59,210 you can feel sexually attracted to me in a weird way, you want to come talk to me now." 609 00:17:59,212 --> 00:18:01,012 to me in a weird way, you want to come talk to me now." I turned down a lot of stuff. 610 00:18:01,014 --> 00:18:02,480 To come talk to me now." I turned down a lot of stuff. I did a show when I was 611 00:18:02,482 --> 00:18:04,382 I turned down a lot of stuff. I did a show when I was small-er. 612 00:18:04,384 --> 00:18:05,950 I did a show when I was small-er. And I remember, someone in the 613 00:18:05,952 --> 00:18:07,518 small-er. And I remember, someone in the meeting, when I first went in, 614 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,986 and I remember, someone in the meeting, when I first went in, she was like, "oh, my god, I 615 00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:10,588 meeting, when I first went in, she was like, "oh, my god, I thought you were gonna be fat." 616 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,423 she was like, "oh, my god, I thought you were gonna be fat." and I said, "you know how long 617 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:13,858 thought you were gonna be fat." and I said, "you know how long it took me to do this? 618 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:15,827 And I said, "you know how long it took me to do this? Thanks. Thank you so much." 619 00:18:15,829 --> 00:18:17,295 it took me to do this? Thanks. Thank you so much." but I got a show, so here we go. 620 00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:18,563 Thanks. Thank you so much." but I got a show, so here we go. I wore a fat suit, the first 621 00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:19,897 but I got a show, so here we go. I wore a fat suit, the first couple episodes, because I was 622 00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:21,232 I wore a fat suit, the first couple episodes, because I was too skinny for the first time 623 00:18:21,234 --> 00:18:21,833 couple episodes, because I was too skinny for the first time in my life. 624 00:18:21,835 --> 00:18:23,701 Too skinny for the first time in my life. So, there's just, like, a lot of 625 00:18:23,703 --> 00:18:25,636 in my life. So, there's just, like, a lot of stuff surrounded by weight, 626 00:18:25,638 --> 00:18:27,338 so, there's just, like, a lot of stuff surrounded by weight, for me, that's not very 627 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:28,372 stuff surrounded by weight, for me, that's not very pleasurable. 628 00:18:28,374 --> 00:18:30,208 For me, that's not very pleasurable. And I probably -- even though 629 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:32,176 pleasurable. And I probably -- even though I'm losing weight now, it's for 630 00:18:32,178 --> 00:18:33,478 and I probably -- even though I'm losing weight now, it's for a different reason. 631 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,046 I'm losing weight now, it's for a different reason. And I'm doing it on my own 632 00:18:35,048 --> 00:18:36,647 a different reason. And I'm doing it on my own terms, not because somebody 633 00:18:36,649 --> 00:18:38,449 and I'm doing it on my own terms, not because somebody wants to have a show with me or 634 00:18:38,451 --> 00:18:39,884 terms, not because somebody wants to have a show with me or wants to add me to their 635 00:18:39,886 --> 00:18:41,452 wants to have a show with me or wants to add me to their magazine, all of a sudden. 636 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,154 Wants to add me to their magazine, all of a sudden. 'cause they weren't doing that 637 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:43,721 magazine, all of a sudden. 'cause they weren't doing that before. 638 00:18:43,723 --> 00:18:45,389 'cause they weren't doing that before. Yeah, I do have a 639 00:18:45,391 --> 00:18:47,191 before. Yeah, I do have a little bit/huge chip 640 00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:49,627 yeah, I do have a little bit/huge chip on my shoulder, because, 641 00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:54,365 little bit/huge chip on my shoulder, because, between the ages of 15 and 24, 642 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,835 on my shoulder, because, between the ages of 15 and 24, I was ridiculed and bullied 643 00:18:57,837 --> 00:19:00,104 between the ages of 15 and 24, I was ridiculed and bullied for my weight and size. 644 00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:03,207 I was ridiculed and bullied for my weight and size. I find a way to feel comfortable 645 00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:06,410 for my weight and size. I find a way to feel comfortable in my skin, and now everybody's 646 00:19:06,412 --> 00:19:07,845 I find a way to feel comfortable in my skin, and now everybody's okay with it, but nobody's 647 00:19:07,847 --> 00:19:09,347 in my skin, and now everybody's okay with it, but nobody's coming back and looking back 648 00:19:09,349 --> 00:19:11,048 okay with it, but nobody's coming back and looking back like, "oh, she was there." 649 00:19:11,050 --> 00:19:12,383 coming back and looking back like, "oh, she was there." you know, other people will get 650 00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:13,184 like, "oh, she was there." you know, other people will get the recognition. 651 00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:14,118 You know, other people will get the recognition. And I'm egotistical. 652 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,153 The recognition. And I'm egotistical. Listen, I just want the 653 00:19:15,155 --> 00:19:15,786 and I'm egotistical. Listen, I just want the recognition. 654 00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:18,523 Listen, I just want the recognition. I was big and thick before all 655 00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:19,724 recognition. I was big and thick before all these big-and-thick ones were 656 00:19:19,726 --> 00:19:20,725 I was big and thick before all these big-and-thick ones were out here on tv shows and 657 00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:21,192 these big-and-thick ones were out here on tv shows and [bleep]. 658 00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:22,393 Out here on tv shows and [bleep]. I'm just sayin', I was there, 659 00:19:22,395 --> 00:19:23,728 [bleep]. I'm just sayin', I was there, but I'm not gonna get the credit 660 00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:24,162 I'm just sayin', I was there, but I'm not gonna get the credit for it. 661 00:19:24,164 --> 00:19:25,229 But I'm not gonna get the credit for it. And that's okay. 662 00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:26,931 For it. And that's okay. I'm working on it in therapy. 663 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,701 And that's okay. I'm working on it in therapy. I feel like it's fantastic that 664 00:19:30,703 --> 00:19:31,936 I'm working on it in therapy. I feel like it's fantastic that the world is coming around, 665 00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:33,104 I feel like it's fantastic that the world is coming around, realizing that you can be 666 00:19:33,106 --> 00:19:34,138 the world is coming around, realizing that you can be in the skin you're in. 667 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:35,673 Realizing that you can be in the skin you're in. As long as you're healthy, 668 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:36,974 in the skin you're in. As long as you're healthy, I think it's amazing. 669 00:19:36,976 --> 00:19:38,809 As long as you're healthy, I think it's amazing. But it sucked, being in the 670 00:19:38,811 --> 00:19:40,945 I think it's amazing. But it sucked, being in the industry during the 2000s, when, 671 00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:42,813 but it sucked, being in the industry during the 2000s, when, you know, you had all these 672 00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:44,815 industry during the 2000s, when, you know, you had all these skinny minnies out here making 673 00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:47,018 you know, you had all these skinny minnies out here making journeys, and you know, you 674 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:49,387 skinny minnies out here making journeys, and you know, you don't get that, and you're on 675 00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:50,855 journeys, and you know, you don't get that, and you're on blogs, and people are calling 676 00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:52,456 don't get that, and you're on blogs, and people are calling you all kinds of things, and you 677 00:19:52,458 --> 00:19:53,824 blogs, and people are calling you all kinds of things, and you had you mama calling you up 678 00:19:53,826 --> 00:19:54,926 you all kinds of things, and you had you mama calling you up like, "you need to lose weight, 679 00:19:54,928 --> 00:19:55,793 had you mama calling you up like, "you need to lose weight, because they're talking 680 00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:56,294 like, "you need to lose weight, because they're talking about you." 681 00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:57,695 because they're talking about you." I'm like, "I'm -- I'm gonna eat 682 00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:59,263 about you." I'm like, "I'm -- I'm gonna eat this in-n-out, and I'm gonna sit 683 00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:00,464 I'm like, "I'm -- I'm gonna eat this in-n-out, and I'm gonna sit here and be super happy. 684 00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:01,599 This in-n-out, and I'm gonna sit here and be super happy. Y'all gonna have to figure it 685 00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:02,433 here and be super happy. Y'all gonna have to figure it out for yourselves. 686 00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:03,267 Y'all gonna have to figure it out for yourselves. I'm not gonna do it. 687 00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:03,701 Out for yourselves. I'm not gonna do it. Kiss my [bleep]." 688 00:20:09,274 --> 00:20:13,611 >> raven-symoné: I am definitely a big auntie when it comes to the kids that I work with. 689 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:16,681 A big auntie when it comes to the kids that I work with. I do worry about them. 690 00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:18,149 The kids that I work with. I do worry about them. I do have my thoughts that 691 00:20:18,151 --> 00:20:19,884 I do worry about them. I do have my thoughts that they'll never know about what's 692 00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:21,586 I do have my thoughts that they'll never know about what's happening in their lifestyle -- 693 00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:23,054 they'll never know about what's happening in their lifestyle -- you know what I mean? -- Because 694 00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:24,422 happening in their lifestyle -- you know what I mean? -- Because that's not my position to say 695 00:20:24,424 --> 00:20:24,989 you know what I mean? -- Because that's not my position to say anything. 696 00:20:24,991 --> 00:20:25,590 That's not my position to say anything. But I do. 697 00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:26,691 Anything. But I do. I look at the signs. 698 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:28,226 But I do. I look at the signs. There are some that listen and 699 00:20:28,228 --> 00:20:29,794 I look at the signs. There are some that listen and some that don't, and that's the 700 00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:30,895 there are some that listen and some that don't, and that's the way the world works. 701 00:20:30,897 --> 00:20:32,897 Some that don't, and that's the way the world works. But, ultimately, I give everyone 702 00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:34,899 way the world works. But, ultimately, I give everyone the same advice, I give everyone 703 00:20:34,901 --> 00:20:37,101 but, ultimately, I give everyone the same advice, I give everyone the same, you know, cards. 704 00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:39,604 The same advice, I give everyone the same, you know, cards. And that is, one thing they'll 705 00:20:39,606 --> 00:20:40,571 the same, you know, cards. And that is, one thing they'll tell you as a kid is, 706 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:41,305 and that is, one thing they'll tell you as a kid is, "you're a kid. 707 00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:42,673 Tell you as a kid is, "you're a kid. Work as hard as you can now, and 708 00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:43,808 "you're a kid. Work as hard as you can now, and you can sleep later, when 709 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:44,442 work as hard as you can now, and you can sleep later, when you're old." 710 00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:46,043 you can sleep later, when you're old." it is misconception, and it is 711 00:20:46,045 --> 00:20:46,677 you're old." it is misconception, and it is not fair. 712 00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:48,379 It is misconception, and it is not fair. Just because we're young doesn't 713 00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:49,814 not fair. Just because we're young doesn't mean you can work us to the 714 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:50,281 just because we're young doesn't mean you can work us to the bone. 715 00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:51,649 Mean you can work us to the bone. They say, "oh, you're young. 716 00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:52,750 Bone. They say, "oh, you're young. You have the energy." 717 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,018 they say, "oh, you're young. You have the energy." "no, I don't. I'm a human. 718 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:54,785 You have the energy." "no, I don't. I'm a human. Leave me be." 719 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:55,886 "no, I don't. I'm a human. Leave me be." they will work you because 720 00:20:55,888 --> 00:20:57,188 leave me be." they will work you because you're trying to build a brand, 721 00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:58,256 they will work you because you're trying to build a brand, so you got to go, go, go, 722 00:20:58,258 --> 00:20:58,689 you're trying to build a brand, so you got to go, go, go, go, go. 723 00:20:58,691 --> 00:21:00,791 So you got to go, go, go, go, go. No, take a vacation. 724 00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:03,261 Go, go. No, take a vacation. Stop and enjoy life, 'cause 725 00:21:03,263 --> 00:21:04,929 no, take a vacation. Stop and enjoy life, 'cause when you're that young and 726 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:06,764 stop and enjoy life, 'cause when you're that young and you're good, they'll work you 727 00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:08,699 when you're that young and you're good, they'll work you until you are absolutely crazy. 728 00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:12,637 You're good, they'll work you until you are absolutely crazy. And it's no one's fault but the 729 00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:13,871 until you are absolutely crazy. And it's no one's fault but the beautiful carrot that gets 730 00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,573 and it's no one's fault but the beautiful carrot that gets put in your face on an everyday 731 00:21:15,575 --> 00:21:16,107 beautiful carrot that gets put in your face on an everyday basis. 732 00:21:16,109 --> 00:21:17,808 Put in your face on an everyday basis. And then, if you're not smart 733 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,543 basis. And then, if you're not smart enough, and you don't have the 734 00:21:19,545 --> 00:21:21,512 and then, if you're not smart enough, and you don't have the foundation, you continue to 735 00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:23,648 enough, and you don't have the foundation, you continue to follow a carrot even when your 736 00:21:23,650 --> 00:21:24,749 foundation, you continue to follow a carrot even when your time is done. 737 00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,117 Follow a carrot even when your time is done. Then, you have that journey of 738 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,518 time is done. Then, you have that journey of people like, "why are you still 739 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,019 then, you have that journey of people like, "why are you still working? 740 00:21:28,021 --> 00:21:28,753 People like, "why are you still working? Go sit down." 741 00:21:28,755 --> 00:21:29,754 working? Go sit down." you know what I mean? 742 00:21:29,756 --> 00:21:31,422 Go sit down." you know what I mean? Like, you have to be okay with 743 00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:32,823 you know what I mean? Like, you have to be okay with disappearing for a while, 744 00:21:32,825 --> 00:21:34,325 like, you have to be okay with disappearing for a while, because this -- hopefully, 745 00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:35,926 disappearing for a while, because this -- hopefully, you'll have a very long life. 746 00:21:35,928 --> 00:21:37,295 Because this -- hopefully, you'll have a very long life. So sit down, go get married, 747 00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:38,729 you'll have a very long life. So sit down, go get married, enjoy your life, and then come 748 00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:39,130 so sit down, go get married, enjoy your life, and then come back. 749 00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:40,197 Enjoy your life, and then come back. You know what I mean? 750 00:21:40,199 --> 00:21:42,033 Back. You know what I mean? And I think, a lot of the times, 751 00:21:42,035 --> 00:21:43,167 you know what I mean? And I think, a lot of the times, the rat race, especially now 752 00:21:43,169 --> 00:21:44,402 and I think, a lot of the times, the rat race, especially now with the social -- "I got to be 753 00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:45,403 the rat race, especially now with the social -- "I got to be on it, I got to be on it, 754 00:21:45,405 --> 00:21:46,537 with the social -- "I got to be on it, I got to be on it, I got to be on it" -- you're 755 00:21:46,539 --> 00:21:47,538 on it, I got to be on it, I got to be on it" -- you're gonna burn yourself out. 756 00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:48,873 I got to be on it" -- you're gonna burn yourself out. I tell them this. 757 00:21:48,875 --> 00:21:50,141 Gonna burn yourself out. I tell them this. I let them know. 758 00:21:50,143 --> 00:21:51,309 I tell them this. I let them know. I'm like, "you need to make sure 759 00:21:51,311 --> 00:21:52,343 I let them know. I'm like, "you need to make sure you know what's going on with 760 00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:53,377 I'm like, "you need to make sure you know what's going on with your money; you need to make 761 00:21:53,379 --> 00:21:54,512 you know what's going on with your money; you need to make sure that you know what's going 762 00:21:54,514 --> 00:21:55,646 your money; you need to make sure that you know what's going on with your paperwork; you need 763 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:56,814 sure that you know what's going on with your paperwork; you need to make sure you understand that 764 00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:59,016 on with your paperwork; you need to make sure you understand that at a certain age, there's gonna 765 00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:00,918 to make sure you understand that at a certain age, there's gonna be that weird parent-child 766 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,654 at a certain age, there's gonna be that weird parent-child dynamic situation where you got 767 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,256 be that weird parent-child dynamic situation where you got to, like, "hmm." 768 00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:07,758 dynamic situation where you got to, like, "hmm." you have to -- you have to take 769 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,560 to, like, "hmm." you have to -- you have to take control of your life. 770 00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,962 You have to -- you have to take control of your life. And when you have family and 771 00:22:11,964 --> 00:22:14,165 control of your life. And when you have family and work together, you got to 772 00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,734 and when you have family and work together, you got to figure that out, and sometimes 773 00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:17,802 work together, you got to figure that out, and sometimes it can be difficult, and 774 00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:18,736 figure that out, and sometimes it can be difficult, and sometimes it's easy. 775 00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:20,571 It can be difficult, and sometimes it's easy. There's a couple stages. 776 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:22,873 Sometimes it's easy. There's a couple stages. I made sure that my progression 777 00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:24,709 there's a couple stages. I made sure that my progression into adulthood is a slow 778 00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:26,711 I made sure that my progression into adulthood is a slow progression, so everyone's 779 00:22:26,713 --> 00:22:27,778 into adulthood is a slow progression, so everyone's comfortable. 780 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:29,113 Progression, so everyone's comfortable. Uh, I'm very meticulous 781 00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:30,014 comfortable. Uh, I'm very meticulous in that sense. 782 00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:31,682 Uh, I'm very meticulous in that sense. I'll be with people like, "you 783 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:32,783 in that sense. I'll be with people like, "you need to hurry up." 784 00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:34,452 I'll be with people like, "you need to hurry up." I'm like, "no, no, no, no, no." 785 00:22:34,454 --> 00:22:37,188 need to hurry up." I'm like, "no, no, no, no, no." so, it started at age 15. 786 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:39,724 I'm like, "no, no, no, no, no." so, it started at age 15. The next one was at 18. 787 00:22:39,726 --> 00:22:41,892 So, it started at age 15. The next one was at 18. The next one was at 25. 788 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:43,661 The next one was at 18. The next one was at 25. I'm actually in the middle of 789 00:22:43,663 --> 00:22:44,662 the next one was at 25. I'm actually in the middle of one right now. 790 00:22:44,664 --> 00:22:47,565 I'm actually in the middle of one right now. And it's just a slow progression 791 00:22:47,567 --> 00:22:51,102 one right now. And it's just a slow progression of...Becoming an adult 792 00:22:51,104 --> 00:22:54,872 and it's just a slow progression of...Becoming an adult after 18 to 20-something years 793 00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:56,674 of...Becoming an adult after 18 to 20-something years of being a kid. 794 00:22:56,676 --> 00:22:58,075 After 18 to 20-something years of being a kid. And you know, normal kids do 795 00:22:58,077 --> 00:22:59,477 of being a kid. And you know, normal kids do that by going to college and 796 00:22:59,479 --> 00:23:00,778 and you know, normal kids do that by going to college and having their first year in 797 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,313 that by going to college and having their first year in college, and then you're adult. 798 00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:03,881 Having their first year in college, and then you're adult. Like, this is different. 799 00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:05,416 College, and then you're adult. Like, this is different. This is a different world. 800 00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:06,817 Like, this is different. This is a different world. You can't do that here. 801 00:23:06,819 --> 00:23:08,285 This is a different world. You can't do that here. You got to, like, teach people 802 00:23:08,287 --> 00:23:09,553 you can't do that here. You got to, like, teach people how to treat you, because 803 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,055 you got to, like, teach people how to treat you, because they've been used -- and that's 804 00:23:11,057 --> 00:23:12,456 how to treat you, because they've been used -- and that's not family, that's everybody 805 00:23:12,458 --> 00:23:13,157 they've been used -- and that's not family, that's everybody around you. 806 00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:14,692 Not family, that's everybody around you. You got to teach people how to 807 00:23:14,694 --> 00:23:16,260 around you. You got to teach people how to treat you, because they've been 808 00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:17,661 you got to teach people how to treat you, because they've been treating you as a child and 809 00:23:17,663 --> 00:23:18,796 treat you, because they've been treating you as a child and property for so long. 810 00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:20,364 Treating you as a child and property for so long. So it's like this weird -- it's 811 00:23:20,366 --> 00:23:21,298 property for so long. So it's like this weird -- it's a weird journey. 812 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:22,633 So it's like this weird -- it's a weird journey. But you do it slow. 813 00:23:22,635 --> 00:23:24,068 A weird journey. But you do it slow. You don't do it fast. 814 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:25,770 But you do it slow. You don't do it fast. You don't try to take it, 815 00:23:25,772 --> 00:23:27,638 you don't do it fast. You don't try to take it, 'cause, at the same time, the 816 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,039 you don't try to take it, 'cause, at the same time, the person has to learn. 817 00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:30,241 'cause, at the same time, the person has to learn. Like, I have to learn 818 00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:31,175 person has to learn. Like, I have to learn what taxes are. 819 00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:32,877 Like, I have to learn what taxes are. I have to learn how to deal with 820 00:23:32,879 --> 00:23:34,345 what taxes are. I have to learn how to deal with my money, 'cause I've been 821 00:23:34,347 --> 00:23:36,046 I have to learn how to deal with my money, 'cause I've been giving it to my business manager 822 00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:36,981 my money, 'cause I've been giving it to my business manager taking care of it. 823 00:23:36,983 --> 00:23:38,315 Giving it to my business manager taking care of it. And I'm like, "oh, how do you 824 00:23:38,317 --> 00:23:38,883 taking care of it. And I'm like, "oh, how do you do taxes? 825 00:23:38,885 --> 00:23:39,683 And I'm like, "oh, how do you do taxes? Okay, teach me. 826 00:23:39,685 --> 00:23:41,485 Do taxes? Okay, teach me. Oh, I understand now. 827 00:23:41,487 --> 00:23:42,353 Okay, teach me. Oh, I understand now. Let me do it." 828 00:23:42,355 --> 00:23:43,521 oh, I understand now. Let me do it." that's the conversation I had 829 00:23:43,523 --> 00:23:43,888 let me do it." that's the conversation I had at 29. 830 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:45,055 That's the conversation I had at 29. I should have been knowing how 831 00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:46,223 at 29. I should have been knowing how to do that, but I'm over here 832 00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:47,491 I should have been knowing how to do that, but I'm over here making the money, so it's, like, 833 00:23:47,493 --> 00:23:48,025 to do that, but I'm over here making the money, so it's, like, a tradeoff. 834 00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:49,827 Making the money, so it's, like, a tradeoff. My mom -- she taught me how to 835 00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:50,628 a tradeoff. My mom -- she taught me how to save money. 836 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:53,998 My mom -- she taught me how to save money. Um, I get a check. 837 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,965 Save money. Um, I get a check. Half of it goes away. 838 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:56,233 Um, I get a check. Half of it goes away. I never see it again, 'cause 839 00:23:56,235 --> 00:23:56,934 half of it goes away. I never see it again, 'cause it's invested. 840 00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,135 I never see it again, 'cause it's invested. And half of it comes to me. 841 00:23:58,137 --> 00:23:59,303 It's invested. And half of it comes to me. I can buy whatever I want. 842 00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:00,805 And half of it comes to me. I can buy whatever I want. But you always have to save your 843 00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:02,306 I can buy whatever I want. But you always have to save your money, because you might not get 844 00:24:02,308 --> 00:24:03,707 but you always have to save your money, because you might not get a job, and you got to sustain 845 00:24:03,709 --> 00:24:04,275 money, because you might not get a job, and you got to sustain yourself. 846 00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:06,310 A job, and you got to sustain yourself. I also like money. 847 00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:07,545 Yourself. I also like money. I like making it. 848 00:24:07,547 --> 00:24:09,413 I also like money. I like making it. So, real estate, um, 849 00:24:09,415 --> 00:24:12,149 I like making it. So, real estate, um, investments -- I'm always there. 850 00:24:12,151 --> 00:24:13,751 So, real estate, um, investments -- I'm always there. I am the first person to be 851 00:24:13,753 --> 00:24:15,386 investments -- I'm always there. I am the first person to be like, "hmm, what company is 852 00:24:15,388 --> 00:24:16,420 I am the first person to be like, "hmm, what company is about to happen? 853 00:24:16,422 --> 00:24:17,955 Like, "hmm, what company is about to happen? Let me buy some of that," 854 00:24:17,957 --> 00:24:19,557 about to happen? Let me buy some of that," because my ultimate goal is 855 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,525 let me buy some of that," because my ultimate goal is to never work again. 856 00:24:21,527 --> 00:24:22,159 Because my ultimate goal is to never work again. So, bye. 857 00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:23,928 To never work again. So, bye. I need to make sure I got money 858 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,396 so, bye. I need to make sure I got money working for me and things 859 00:24:25,398 --> 00:24:25,696 I need to make sure I got money working for me and things happening. 860 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:28,232 Since I started in the industry, 861 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:29,900 there was pressure about having 862 00:24:30,035 --> 00:24:30,267 a reputation. 863 00:24:31,603 --> 00:24:36,640 So, when I started working for disney, I think they loved me because they didn't have to 864 00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:37,675 disney, I think they loved me because they didn't have to worry about me. 865 00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:39,977 Because they didn't have to worry about me. I already knew what the deal 866 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:40,611 worry about me. I already knew what the deal was. 867 00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:42,213 I already knew what the deal was. I knew their demographic, and I 868 00:24:42,215 --> 00:24:43,781 was. I knew their demographic, and I knew what you couldn't sell and 869 00:24:43,783 --> 00:24:44,882 I knew their demographic, and I knew what you couldn't sell and what you could sell. 870 00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:46,784 Knew what you couldn't sell and what you could sell. So, you know, we're kind of 871 00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:48,419 what you could sell. So, you know, we're kind of simpatico in that way. 872 00:24:48,421 --> 00:24:50,187 So, you know, we're kind of simpatico in that way. I'm not gonna ruin my brand, and 873 00:24:50,189 --> 00:24:51,889 simpatico in that way. I'm not gonna ruin my brand, and that means you're not gonna get 874 00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:52,990 I'm not gonna ruin my brand, and that means you're not gonna get your brand ruined. 875 00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,625 That means you're not gonna get your brand ruined. Yeah, there is a stigma. 876 00:24:54,627 --> 00:24:56,093 Your brand ruined. Yeah, there is a stigma. You're a kid forever. 877 00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:57,328 Yeah, there is a stigma. You're a kid forever. That's how it is. 878 00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:59,330 You're a kid forever. That's how it is. I have no regrets about it. 879 00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:00,564 That's how it is. I have no regrets about it. I do what I need to, as an 880 00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:00,998 I have no regrets about it. I do what I need to, as an adult. 881 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,333 I do what I need to, as an adult. And there are some adults who 882 00:25:02,335 --> 00:25:03,701 adult. And there are some adults who want to act a certain way, and 883 00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:04,935 and there are some adults who want to act a certain way, and there are some adults that 884 00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:05,369 want to act a certain way, and there are some adults that don't. 885 00:25:05,371 --> 00:25:06,203 There are some adults that don't. You know? 886 00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:08,339 Don't. You know? And I'm just one of those ones 887 00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:10,574 you know? And I'm just one of those ones where, outwardly, to the public, 888 00:25:10,576 --> 00:25:12,276 and I'm just one of those ones where, outwardly, to the public, that I know thousands and 889 00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:14,311 where, outwardly, to the public, that I know thousands and millions of people are gonna be 890 00:25:14,313 --> 00:25:16,247 that I know thousands and millions of people are gonna be watching, you know, I want to 891 00:25:16,249 --> 00:25:18,048 millions of people are gonna be watching, you know, I want to make sure that when I try to 892 00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,017 watching, you know, I want to make sure that when I try to teach my kids, later, how to be 893 00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:21,852 make sure that when I try to teach my kids, later, how to be respectful, they're not like, 894 00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:22,987 teach my kids, later, how to be respectful, they're not like, "well, mom, you did this." 895 00:25:22,989 --> 00:25:23,654 respectful, they're not like, "well, mom, you did this." "no, I didn't. 896 00:25:23,656 --> 00:25:24,855 "well, mom, you did this." "no, I didn't. You can't find it, you can't 897 00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:25,356 "no, I didn't. You can't find it, you can't prove it. 898 00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:26,657 You can't find it, you can't prove it. There's not one picture. 899 00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:28,058 Prove it. There's not one picture. Prove it. You can't do it." 900 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:30,261 there's not one picture. Prove it. You can't do it." so it's kind of in that world. 901 00:25:30,263 --> 00:25:30,728 Prove it. You can't do it." so it's kind of in that world. [ laughs ] you know? 902 00:25:36,167 --> 00:25:39,169 >> raven-symoné: There was a pilot called "absolutely psychic." 903 00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:40,638 a pilot called "absolutely psychic." it was about a psychic girl and 904 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,539 "absolutely psychic." it was about a psychic girl and her best friends. 905 00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:44,909 It was about a psychic girl and her best friends. And [chuckles] at the time, 906 00:25:44,911 --> 00:25:48,646 her best friends. And [chuckles] at the time, there was also... 907 00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:50,314 And [chuckles] at the time, there was also... Some controversy during 908 00:25:50,316 --> 00:25:52,349 there was also... Some controversy during "my wife and kids," because the 909 00:25:52,351 --> 00:25:54,919 some controversy during "my wife and kids," because the daughter was about to let go. 910 00:25:54,921 --> 00:25:56,887 "my wife and kids," because the daughter was about to let go. And so I auditioned for both 911 00:25:56,889 --> 00:25:57,555 daughter was about to let go. And so I auditioned for both roles. 912 00:25:57,557 --> 00:25:58,789 And so I auditioned for both roles. I auditioned for 913 00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:00,891 roles. I auditioned for "my wife and kids," and I also 914 00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:02,960 I auditioned for "my wife and kids," and I also auditioned for the best friend 915 00:26:02,962 --> 00:26:03,961 "my wife and kids," and I also auditioned for the best friend of a pilot called 916 00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:05,162 auditioned for the best friend of a pilot called "absolutely psychic." 917 00:26:05,164 --> 00:26:08,465 of a pilot called "absolutely psychic." and for one of the first times 918 00:26:08,467 --> 00:26:11,969 "absolutely psychic." and for one of the first times in my life, I got to choose, uh, 919 00:26:11,971 --> 00:26:13,370 and for one of the first times in my life, I got to choose, uh, behind the scenes, which one 920 00:26:13,372 --> 00:26:14,405 in my life, I got to choose, uh, behind the scenes, which one I wanted to go for. 921 00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,373 Behind the scenes, which one I wanted to go for. I did one episode of 922 00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:18,576 I wanted to go for. I did one episode of "my wife and kids," and 923 00:26:18,578 --> 00:26:19,843 I did one episode of "my wife and kids," and while I was on that set, 924 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:20,744 "my wife and kids," and while I was on that set, I got the call. 925 00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:21,879 While I was on that set, I got the call. They were like, "well, this 926 00:26:21,881 --> 00:26:22,980 I got the call. They were like, "well, this pilot is getting picked up 927 00:26:22,982 --> 00:26:23,514 they were like, "well, this pilot is getting picked up with you." 928 00:26:23,516 --> 00:26:24,848 pilot is getting picked up with you." I was like, "well, what do you 929 00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:25,616 with you." I was like, "well, what do you mean, with me?" 930 00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:26,850 I was like, "well, what do you mean, with me?" they were like, "we want to 931 00:26:26,852 --> 00:26:28,118 mean, with me?" they were like, "we want to change it over to that -- to 932 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,187 they were like, "we want to change it over to that -- to raven being psychic, and 933 00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:31,989 change it over to that -- to raven being psychic, and you having friends." 934 00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:33,290 raven being psychic, and you having friends." and I go, "am I on 935 00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:35,125 you having friends." and I go, "am I on 'my wife and kids,' or am I 936 00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:36,860 and I go, "am I on 'my wife and kids,' or am I gonna have my own show on 937 00:26:36,862 --> 00:26:38,062 'my wife and kids,' or am I gonna have my own show on disney channel?" 938 00:26:38,064 --> 00:26:39,496 gonna have my own show on disney channel?" and at the time, it wasn't -- 939 00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:40,965 disney channel?" and at the time, it wasn't -- I forgot what "my wife and kids" 940 00:26:40,967 --> 00:26:42,366 and at the time, it wasn't -- I forgot what "my wife and kids" was on, but it wasn't a network 941 00:26:42,368 --> 00:26:42,766 I forgot what "my wife and kids" was on, but it wasn't a network show. 942 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:44,001 Was on, but it wasn't a network show. So I was like, "I'll have 943 00:26:44,003 --> 00:26:44,702 show. So I was like, "I'll have my own show. 944 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:45,703 So I was like, "I'll have my own show. That's kinda cool." 945 00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:48,405 my own show. That's kinda cool." and that's what happened. 946 00:26:48,407 --> 00:26:51,275 That's kinda cool." and that's what happened. I think, why I went back to 947 00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:54,244 and that's what happened. I think, why I went back to playing raven baxter -- because 948 00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:55,546 I think, why I went back to playing raven baxter -- because I like her. 949 00:26:55,548 --> 00:26:59,850 Playing raven baxter -- because I like her. I like just not caring 950 00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:01,452 I like her. I like just not caring in front of the screen. 951 00:27:01,454 --> 00:27:03,787 I like just not caring in front of the screen. It's not a rigid situation. 952 00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:04,722 In front of the screen. It's not a rigid situation. You know? 953 00:27:04,724 --> 00:27:07,124 It's not a rigid situation. You know? It's not trying to be someone's 954 00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:09,293 you know? It's not trying to be someone's daughter in this scene. 955 00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:12,896 It's not trying to be someone's daughter in this scene. I am free to act crazy 956 00:27:12,898 --> 00:27:14,064 daughter in this scene. I am free to act crazy as I want to. 957 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:15,966 I am free to act crazy as I want to. And my mom was like, "what's 958 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,201 as I want to. And my mom was like, "what's wrong with you?" 959 00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:18,602 and my mom was like, "what's wrong with you?" I said, "I used to watch 960 00:27:18,604 --> 00:27:20,404 wrong with you?" I said, "I used to watch 'madtv's' stuart, that 961 00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:21,372 I said, "I used to watch 'madtv's' stuart, that character. 962 00:27:21,374 --> 00:27:23,307 'madtv's' stuart, that character. Modeled raven after him. 963 00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:26,110 Character. Modeled raven after him. Um, you know, 'ace ventura.' 964 00:27:26,112 --> 00:27:27,745 modeled raven after him. Um, you know, 'ace ventura.' loved it, did stuff from 965 00:27:27,747 --> 00:27:28,846 um, you know, 'ace ventura.' loved it, did stuff from 'ace ventura.'" 966 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:30,914 loved it, did stuff from 'ace ventura.'" I was able to put all of these 967 00:27:30,916 --> 00:27:32,983 'ace ventura.'" I was able to put all of these amazing comedic moments that I 968 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:34,485 I was able to put all of these amazing comedic moments that I watched and loved -- 969 00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:36,553 amazing comedic moments that I watched and loved -- lucille ball, carol burnett -- 970 00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:38,155 watched and loved -- lucille ball, carol burnett -- and just go for it. 971 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:40,124 Lucille ball, carol burnett -- and just go for it. And that's raven baxter. 972 00:27:40,126 --> 00:27:42,526 And just go for it. And that's raven baxter. So I'll go back to her until I'm 973 00:27:42,528 --> 00:27:43,293 and that's raven baxter. So I'll go back to her until I'm tired." 974 00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:44,928 so I'll go back to her until I'm tired." didn't realize the legs or 975 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:46,864 tired." didn't realize the legs or potential that 'that's so raven' 976 00:27:46,866 --> 00:27:47,698 didn't realize the legs or potential that 'that's so raven' could have. 977 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,201 Potential that 'that's so raven' could have. But I did understand 978 00:27:51,203 --> 00:27:53,170 could have. But I did understand what it takes to have your own 979 00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,538 but I did understand what it takes to have your own show and for it to be 980 00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:55,372 what it takes to have your own show and for it to be successful. 981 00:27:55,374 --> 00:27:56,774 Show and for it to be successful. So, if you look at the most 982 00:27:56,776 --> 00:27:58,375 successful. So, if you look at the most successful shows with comedians 983 00:27:58,377 --> 00:27:59,877 so, if you look at the most successful shows with comedians at the front of it, you know, 984 00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:01,412 successful shows with comedians at the front of it, you know, you have "the cosby show," you 985 00:28:01,414 --> 00:28:02,746 at the front of it, you know, you have "the cosby show," you have "martin," you have 986 00:28:02,748 --> 00:28:04,415 you have "the cosby show," you have "martin," you have "fresh prince of bel-air," you 987 00:28:04,417 --> 00:28:06,016 have "martin," you have "fresh prince of bel-air," you have "everybody loves raymond." 988 00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:07,751 "fresh prince of bel-air," you have "everybody loves raymond." you have these characters that 989 00:28:07,753 --> 00:28:09,620 have "everybody loves raymond." you have these characters that are surrounded by a cast so that 990 00:28:09,622 --> 00:28:10,888 you have these characters that are surrounded by a cast so that they can thrive, but, 991 00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:12,389 are surrounded by a cast so that they can thrive, but, ultimately, they're being 992 00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:13,190 they can thrive, but, ultimately, they're being themselves. 993 00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:14,825 Ultimately, they're being themselves. They're let free, they're able 994 00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:16,493 themselves. They're let free, they're able to work, they're able to move, 995 00:28:16,495 --> 00:28:18,228 they're let free, they're able to work, they're able to move, they're able to, you know, grow. 996 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:20,764 To work, they're able to move, they're able to, you know, grow. And disney channel, 997 00:28:20,766 --> 00:28:22,466 they're able to, you know, grow. And disney channel, michael poryes, susan sherman, 998 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,101 and disney channel, michael poryes, susan sherman, and all of the writers at the 999 00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:25,736 michael poryes, susan sherman, and all of the writers at the time, including the ones that 1000 00:28:25,738 --> 00:28:27,438 and all of the writers at the time, including the ones that happened in the future, really 1001 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,842 time, including the ones that happened in the future, really surrounded myself with amazing 1002 00:28:31,844 --> 00:28:33,243 happened in the future, really surrounded myself with amazing people -- rondell sheridan, 1003 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:34,645 surrounded myself with amazing people -- rondell sheridan, t'keyah crystal keymáh, 1004 00:28:34,647 --> 00:28:35,546 people -- rondell sheridan, t'keyah crystal keymáh, orlando brown, 1005 00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:36,747 t'keyah crystal keymáh, orlando brown, anneliese van der pol, 1006 00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:38,849 orlando brown, anneliese van der pol, kyle massey -- with really 1007 00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:41,485 anneliese van der pol, kyle massey -- with really amazing talent, and let us go 1008 00:28:41,487 --> 00:28:43,787 kyle massey -- with really amazing talent, and let us go ape-[bleep] crazy, and we did. 1009 00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:46,156 Amazing talent, and let us go ape-[bleep] crazy, and we did. You can see the authenticity of 1010 00:28:46,158 --> 00:28:47,991 ape-[bleep] crazy, and we did. You can see the authenticity of the joy we had on that set 1011 00:28:47,993 --> 00:28:49,593 you can see the authenticity of the joy we had on that set permeate the screen. 1012 00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:51,061 The joy we had on that set permeate the screen. You know, you can watch other 1013 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:52,096 permeate the screen. You know, you can watch other shows that don't last that long, 1014 00:28:52,098 --> 00:28:53,063 you know, you can watch other shows that don't last that long, and you're like, "something's 1015 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:53,664 shows that don't last that long, and you're like, "something's going on there." 1016 00:28:53,666 --> 00:28:54,932 and you're like, "something's going on there." it might not gel as well, 1017 00:28:54,934 --> 00:28:55,499 going on there." it might not gel as well, you know? 1018 00:28:55,501 --> 00:28:57,267 It might not gel as well, you know? So, those hit shows have that 1019 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:58,635 you know? So, those hit shows have that formula that is called 1020 00:28:58,637 --> 00:29:00,137 so, those hit shows have that formula that is called "lightning in a bottle." 1021 00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:02,272 formula that is called "lightning in a bottle." and you try to re-create it, and 1022 00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:03,407 "lightning in a bottle." and you try to re-create it, and it's difficult. 1023 00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:06,210 And you try to re-create it, and it's difficult. But I think that's why it gained 1024 00:29:06,212 --> 00:29:07,945 it's difficult. But I think that's why it gained so much happiness. 1025 00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:10,714 But I think that's why it gained so much happiness. We encapsulated a time period 1026 00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:13,016 so much happiness. We encapsulated a time period when, you know, you had people 1027 00:29:13,018 --> 00:29:15,219 we encapsulated a time period when, you know, you had people in our age bracket that just 1028 00:29:15,221 --> 00:29:17,654 when, you know, you had people in our age bracket that just wanted to have fun, didn't care. 1029 00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:19,556 In our age bracket that just wanted to have fun, didn't care. Wasn't trying to be uptight or 1030 00:29:19,558 --> 00:29:20,424 wanted to have fun, didn't care. Wasn't trying to be uptight or super sexy. 1031 00:29:20,426 --> 00:29:22,392 Wasn't trying to be uptight or super sexy. And the writers enjoyed writing 1032 00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:25,696 super sexy. And the writers enjoyed writing for us, because I was never that 1033 00:29:25,698 --> 00:29:30,000 and the writers enjoyed writing for us, because I was never that type of actress that, um, cared 1034 00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,969 for us, because I was never that type of actress that, um, cared if a hair was out of place or 1035 00:29:31,971 --> 00:29:34,004 type of actress that, um, cared if a hair was out of place or cared about my image outside of 1036 00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:34,805 if a hair was out of place or cared about my image outside of the show. 1037 00:29:34,807 --> 00:29:36,907 Cared about my image outside of the show. I was like, "what do you need me 1038 00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:38,876 the show. I was like, "what do you need me to do -- pie in the face while 1039 00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:39,977 I was like, "what do you need me to do -- pie in the face while doing a split? 1040 00:29:39,979 --> 00:29:40,811 To do -- pie in the face while doing a split? Let's go." 1041 00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:42,146 doing a split? Let's go." you know, some actresses you 1042 00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:43,547 let's go." you know, some actresses you would meet in my age bracket, 1043 00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:44,915 you know, some actresses you would meet in my age bracket, they're like, "but my 1044 00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:46,316 would meet in my age bracket, they're like, "but my boyfriend's watching." 1045 00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:47,351 they're like, "but my boyfriend's watching." I'm like, "I don't have a 1046 00:29:47,353 --> 00:29:47,851 boyfriend's watching." I'm like, "I don't have a boyfriend. 1047 00:29:47,853 --> 00:29:48,318 I'm like, "I don't have a boyfriend. Let's go. 1048 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,586 Boyfriend. Let's go. You don't even know what I like, 1049 00:29:49,588 --> 00:29:50,354 let's go. You don't even know what I like, so let's have it." 1050 00:29:50,356 --> 00:29:51,722 you don't even know what I like, so let's have it." so I think it was just the 1051 00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:53,290 so let's have it." so I think it was just the freedom that we had that really 1052 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:54,925 so I think it was just the freedom that we had that really propelled it to where it was and 1053 00:29:54,927 --> 00:29:57,094 freedom that we had that really propelled it to where it was and where it went. 1054 00:29:57,096 --> 00:29:58,462 Propelled it to where it was and where it went. There were a couple of reasons 1055 00:29:58,464 --> 00:29:59,496 where it went. There were a couple of reasons why I did "the view." 1056 00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:03,100 there were a couple of reasons why I did "the view." um, one, everybody that I grew 1057 00:30:03,102 --> 00:30:05,502 why I did "the view." um, one, everybody that I grew up with in the industry, around 1058 00:30:05,504 --> 00:30:08,806 um, one, everybody that I grew up with in the industry, around my age bracket -- lindsay and 1059 00:30:08,808 --> 00:30:11,341 up with in the industry, around my age bracket -- lindsay and all these people -- made their 1060 00:30:11,343 --> 00:30:13,610 my age bracket -- lindsay and all these people -- made their transion to adulthood by 1061 00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:16,814 all these people -- made their transion to adulthood by oversexualizing themselves. 1062 00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:19,149 Transion to adulthood by oversexualizing themselves. I decided to go into "the view" 1063 00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:21,151 oversexualizing themselves. I decided to go into "the view" to show my adulthood by my 1064 00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:22,619 I decided to go into "the view" to show my adulthood by my brain. 1065 00:30:22,621 --> 00:30:23,720 To show my adulthood by my brain. One. 1066 00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,355 Brain. One. Two, whoopi asked me. 1067 00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:27,057 One. Two, whoopi asked me. "okay!" [ laughs ] 1068 00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:28,859 two, whoopi asked me. "okay!" [ laughs ] you don't say no to an egot. 1069 00:30:28,861 --> 00:30:29,960 "okay!" [ laughs ] you don't say no to an egot. And I just love her so much, 1070 00:30:29,962 --> 00:30:31,128 you don't say no to an egot. And I just love her so much, I just wanted to be underneath 1071 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:31,728 and I just love her so much, I just wanted to be underneath her. 1072 00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:33,764 I just wanted to be underneath her. And, um, very difficult 1073 00:30:33,766 --> 00:30:34,765 her. And, um, very difficult decision. 1074 00:30:34,767 --> 00:30:36,033 And, um, very difficult decision. One of the hardest jobs I've 1075 00:30:36,035 --> 00:30:36,600 decision. One of the hardest jobs I've ever had. 1076 00:30:36,602 --> 00:30:38,035 One of the hardest jobs I've ever had. The second-hardest was broadway. 1077 00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:40,571 Ever had. The second-hardest was broadway. And would I do it again? 1078 00:30:40,573 --> 00:30:42,105 The second-hardest was broadway. And would I do it again? Perhaps not. 1079 00:30:42,107 --> 00:30:44,308 And would I do it again? Perhaps not. But it was a learning experience 1080 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:44,875 perhaps not. But it was a learning experience beyond. 1081 00:30:44,877 --> 00:30:46,510 But it was a learning experience beyond. I learned a lot about myself. 1082 00:30:46,512 --> 00:30:49,046 Beyond. I learned a lot about myself. Very confident in who I am. 1083 00:30:49,048 --> 00:30:51,748 I learned a lot about myself. Very confident in who I am. Showed me even more about 1084 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:55,319 very confident in who I am. Showed me even more about free speech -- hmm? -- For 1085 00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:56,854 showed me even more about free speech -- hmm? -- For myself and for other people to 1086 00:30:56,856 --> 00:30:58,155 free speech -- hmm? -- For myself and for other people to talk about me. 1087 00:30:58,157 --> 00:31:00,090 Myself and for other people to talk about me. And, uh, I met my wife then, so 1088 00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:01,191 talk about me. And, uh, I met my wife then, so that was great. 1089 00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:02,192 And, uh, I met my wife then, so that was great. There's some good and bad. 1090 00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:02,993 That was great. There's some good and bad. You know what it is. 1091 00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:04,995 There's some good and bad. You know what it is. That show was one of the most 1092 00:31:04,997 --> 00:31:07,164 you know what it is. That show was one of the most stressful shows I have ever been 1093 00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:08,031 that show was one of the most stressful shows I have ever been a part of. 1094 00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:10,167 Stressful shows I have ever been a part of. The fact that I wasn't really a 1095 00:31:10,169 --> 00:31:12,269 a part of. The fact that I wasn't really a big political person, to begin 1096 00:31:12,271 --> 00:31:14,338 the fact that I wasn't really a big political person, to begin with, and they sold me on this 1097 00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:16,440 big political person, to begin with, and they sold me on this idea as, "this is gonna be the 1098 00:31:16,442 --> 00:31:18,275 with, and they sold me on this idea as, "this is gonna be the new pop-culture show, and you're 1099 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,043 idea as, "this is gonna be the new pop-culture show, and you're gonna talk about this and that. 1100 00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:21,178 New pop-culture show, and you're gonna talk about this and that. Yeah, we'll put some politics 1101 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:22,346 gonna talk about this and that. Yeah, we'll put some politics here and there, but nothing you 1102 00:31:22,348 --> 00:31:22,946 yeah, we'll put some politics here and there, but nothing you can't learn." 1103 00:31:22,948 --> 00:31:23,780 here and there, but nothing you can't learn." "okay, cool." 1104 00:31:23,782 --> 00:31:27,417 can't learn." "okay, cool." I get there, and it's like... 1105 00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:28,118 "okay, cool." I get there, and it's like... "I'm sorry? 1106 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,553 I get there, and it's like... "I'm sorry? Trust me, y'all don't want to 1107 00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:31,154 "I'm sorry? Trust me, y'all don't want to hear what I have to say, because 1108 00:31:31,156 --> 00:31:32,422 trust me, y'all don't want to hear what I have to say, because I'm a millennial, I don't 1109 00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:33,557 hear what I have to say, because I'm a millennial, I don't believe in any of this 1110 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,125 I'm a millennial, I don't believe in any of this old-school stuff that's actually 1111 00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:36,193 believe in any of this old-school stuff that's actually running the country. 1112 00:31:36,195 --> 00:31:37,494 Old-school stuff that's actually running the country. I'm gonna get in trouble." 1113 00:31:37,496 --> 00:31:41,632 running the country. I'm gonna get in trouble." and you know, ultimately... 1114 00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:43,066 I'm gonna get in trouble." and you know, ultimately... We see where I am now. 1115 00:31:43,068 --> 00:31:44,067 And you know, ultimately... We see where I am now. [ laughs ] 1116 00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:44,601 we see where I am now. [ laughs ] and I'm okay with that. 1117 00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:53,110 >> raven-symoné: The first "cheetah girls," from what I can remember, we really enjoyed 1118 00:31:53,112 --> 00:31:55,512 "cheetah girls," from what I can remember, we really enjoyed creating the camaraderie, 1119 00:31:55,514 --> 00:31:57,614 remember, we really enjoyed creating the camaraderie, sisterhood of it all. 1120 00:31:57,616 --> 00:31:59,683 Creating the camaraderie, sisterhood of it all. Kiki'd, talked about it. 1121 00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:03,754 Sisterhood of it all. Kiki'd, talked about it. A lot of personal journeys. 1122 00:32:03,756 --> 00:32:06,490 Kiki'd, talked about it. A lot of personal journeys. And then [laughs] 1123 00:32:06,492 --> 00:32:08,792 a lot of personal journeys. And then [laughs] there was a period of time 1124 00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:11,128 and then [laughs] there was a period of time where, I'm guessing, the 1125 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:14,798 there was a period of time where, I'm guessing, the industry and fame 1126 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,337 where, I'm guessing, the industry and fame and...Careers... 1127 00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:22,673 Industry and fame and...Careers... Got into everyone's head. 1128 00:32:22,675 --> 00:32:23,807 And...Careers... Got into everyone's head. I'm not gonna single anybody 1129 00:32:23,809 --> 00:32:24,141 got into everyone's head. I'm not gonna single anybody out. 1130 00:32:24,143 --> 00:32:25,175 I'm not gonna single anybody out. Got into everyone's head. 1131 00:32:25,177 --> 00:32:26,476 Out. Got into everyone's head. So the dynamic changed. 1132 00:32:26,478 --> 00:32:28,045 Got into everyone's head. So the dynamic changed. We grew up. Things happened. 1133 00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:29,446 So the dynamic changed. We grew up. Things happened. I wasn't a part of the 1134 00:32:29,448 --> 00:32:30,247 we grew up. Things happened. I wasn't a part of the girl group. 1135 00:32:30,249 --> 00:32:31,848 I wasn't a part of the girl group. I didn't do what they did. 1136 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:34,084 Girl group. I didn't do what they did. And it was just interesting 1137 00:32:34,086 --> 00:32:35,218 I didn't do what they did. And it was just interesting after that. 1138 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:36,620 And it was just interesting after that. It was very difficult to turn 1139 00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,121 after that. It was very difficult to turn down "cheetah girls 3," because 1140 00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:39,656 it was very difficult to turn down "cheetah girls 3," because they did keep coming back to me. 1141 00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:43,460 Down "cheetah girls 3," because they did keep coming back to me. Titles, money, india, 1142 00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,028 they did keep coming back to me. Titles, money, india, this, that. 1143 00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:47,331 Titles, money, india, this, that. And I know for a fact 1144 00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:49,733 this, that. And I know for a fact that that was the first time 1145 00:32:49,735 --> 00:32:52,002 and I know for a fact that that was the first time I ever turned down a job 1146 00:32:52,004 --> 00:32:55,372 that that was the first time I ever turned down a job because of my mental health. 1147 00:32:55,374 --> 00:32:55,973 I ever turned down a job because of my mental health. I just didn't want to do it. 1148 00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:04,581 >> raven-symoné: Right before I left l.A. To move to new york, I had a big ol' house party. 1149 00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,550 I left l.A. To move to new york, I had a big ol' house party. Ask about it. [ laughs ] 1150 00:33:06,552 --> 00:33:07,617 I had a big ol' house party. Ask about it. [ laughs ] it was bomb. 1151 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:09,753 Ask about it. [ laughs ] it was bomb. And, uh, we met at an event, 1152 00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:11,455 it was bomb. And, uh, we met at an event, a couple days before. 1153 00:33:11,457 --> 00:33:13,123 And, uh, we met at an event, a couple days before. No, one day before. 1154 00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,458 A couple days before. No, one day before. We met at an event one day 1155 00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:14,958 no, one day before. We met at an event one day before. 1156 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,259 We met at an event one day before. I was like, "come over to the 1157 00:33:16,261 --> 00:33:16,660 before. I was like, "come over to the house. 1158 00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:18,028 I was like, "come over to the house. Come say goodbye to me," right? 1159 00:33:18,030 --> 00:33:19,930 House. Come say goodbye to me," right? And she came, she chilled. 1160 00:33:19,932 --> 00:33:21,298 Come say goodbye to me," right? And she came, she chilled. It was fantastic. 1161 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:23,100 And she came, she chilled. It was fantastic. And then I went to new york, and 1162 00:33:23,102 --> 00:33:24,301 it was fantastic. And then I went to new york, and I invited her there. 1163 00:33:24,303 --> 00:33:26,269 And then I went to new york, and I invited her there. Like, literally, super lesbian. 1164 00:33:26,271 --> 00:33:28,138 I invited her there. Like, literally, super lesbian. Just met and just kept going, 1165 00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:29,272 like, literally, super lesbian. Just met and just kept going, just kept going. 1166 00:33:29,274 --> 00:33:31,708 Just met and just kept going, just kept going. And that happened because 1167 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,810 just kept going. And that happened because there's a connection. 1168 00:33:33,812 --> 00:33:35,912 And that happened because there's a connection. We talked a little bit about 1169 00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:38,181 there's a connection. We talked a little bit about some of the weird little things 1170 00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:40,117 we talked a little bit about some of the weird little things that happen when you're a 1171 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:41,118 some of the weird little things that happen when you're a child star. 1172 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,419 That happen when you're a child star. And one of those things is 1173 00:33:42,421 --> 00:33:43,653 child star. And one of those things is really being able to read 1174 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:47,057 and one of those things is really being able to read people, uh, because, in my 1175 00:33:47,059 --> 00:33:49,993 really being able to read people, uh, because, in my opinion, we not only have to 1176 00:33:49,995 --> 00:33:52,596 people, uh, because, in my opinion, we not only have to meet someone that we've never 1177 00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,131 opinion, we not only have to meet someone that we've never met before and have a full 1178 00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:55,732 meet someone that we've never met before and have a full relationship with them, and 1179 00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:57,234 met before and have a full relationship with them, and pretend that they're your 1180 00:33:57,236 --> 00:33:58,268 relationship with them, and pretend that they're your "mother" or your 1181 00:33:58,270 --> 00:33:59,703 pretend that they're your "mother" or your "great-grandfather" in a 1182 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:02,239 "mother" or your "great-grandfather" in a heartbeat, but you also have to 1183 00:34:02,241 --> 00:34:03,874 "great-grandfather" in a heartbeat, but you also have to interact with that person 1184 00:34:03,876 --> 00:34:05,475 heartbeat, but you also have to interact with that person outside as if you've met 1185 00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:06,176 interact with that person outside as if you've met forever. 1186 00:34:06,178 --> 00:34:07,644 Outside as if you've met forever. So, reading people and 1187 00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:09,479 forever. So, reading people and understanding who they are, I 1188 00:34:09,481 --> 00:34:10,981 so, reading people and understanding who they are, I can do in a glance or a 1189 00:34:10,983 --> 00:34:11,782 understanding who they are, I can do in a glance or a heartbeat. 1190 00:34:11,784 --> 00:34:13,583 Can do in a glance or a heartbeat. I'm very, very particular. 1191 00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:16,453 Heartbeat. I'm very, very particular. And with her, I could look at 1192 00:34:16,455 --> 00:34:18,488 I'm very, very particular. And with her, I could look at her, she looked at me, and we 1193 00:34:18,490 --> 00:34:20,390 and with her, I could look at her, she looked at me, and we both saw the happiness, the 1194 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,225 her, she looked at me, and we both saw the happiness, the pain, the world, the whole 1195 00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:22,893 both saw the happiness, the pain, the world, the whole thing. 1196 00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:24,628 Pain, the world, the whole thing. And so we just didn't want to 1197 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:26,163 thing. And so we just didn't want to separate from each other. 1198 00:34:26,165 --> 00:34:28,565 And so we just didn't want to separate from each other. And she moved to new york. 1199 00:34:28,567 --> 00:34:29,699 Separate from each other. And she moved to new york. Then, I broke up with her. 1200 00:34:29,701 --> 00:34:30,767 And she moved to new york. Then, I broke up with her. But I love her still. 1201 00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:31,768 Then, I broke up with her. But I love her still. And then we're back. 1202 00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:33,770 But I love her still. And then we're back. [ laughs ] 1203 00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:35,705 and then we're back. [ laughs ] let me tell you why miranda 1204 00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:36,673 [ laughs ] let me tell you why miranda got a ring. 1205 00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:40,343 Let me tell you why miranda got a ring. Miranda knows how to make me 1206 00:34:40,345 --> 00:34:41,912 got a ring. Miranda knows how to make me speak truth, even when I don't 1207 00:34:41,914 --> 00:34:44,381 miranda knows how to make me speak truth, even when I don't want to. 1208 00:34:44,383 --> 00:34:47,617 Speak truth, even when I don't want to. She's like my therapist, my 1209 00:34:47,619 --> 00:34:50,654 want to. She's like my therapist, my lover, my bestie. 1210 00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:52,055 She's like my therapist, my lover, my bestie. She doesn't let me get away with 1211 00:34:52,057 --> 00:34:53,290 lover, my bestie. She doesn't let me get away with stuff, but at the same time, 1212 00:34:53,292 --> 00:34:54,157 she doesn't let me get away with stuff, but at the same time, she's super sweet. 1213 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,093 Stuff, but at the same time, she's super sweet. I mean, listen, you know, 1214 00:34:56,095 --> 00:34:57,594 she's super sweet. I mean, listen, you know, when I was growing up and you 1215 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:58,962 I mean, listen, you know, when I was growing up and you fall and you start crying, 1216 00:34:58,964 --> 00:34:59,996 when I was growing up and you fall and you start crying, "girl, suck it up. 1217 00:34:59,998 --> 00:35:00,831 Fall and you start crying, "girl, suck it up. We got to go." 1218 00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:01,731 "girl, suck it up. We got to go." you know what I mean? 1219 00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:02,833 We got to go." you know what I mean? I mean, everybody has some 1220 00:35:02,835 --> 00:35:03,600 you know what I mean? I mean, everybody has some family like that. 1221 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:04,835 I mean, everybody has some family like that. Miranda is like, "are you okay?" 1222 00:35:04,837 --> 00:35:06,002 family like that. Miranda is like, "are you okay?" and I'm like, "yeah, I'm fine. 1223 00:35:06,004 --> 00:35:07,003 Miranda is like, "are you okay?" and I'm like, "yeah, I'm fine. Thanks, babe." 1224 00:35:07,005 --> 00:35:08,338 and I'm like, "yeah, I'm fine. Thanks, babe." like, it's, like, that kind of 1225 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:08,939 thanks, babe." like, it's, like, that kind of love, so... 1226 00:35:08,941 --> 00:35:12,375 Like, it's, like, that kind of love, so... When we were dating... 1227 00:35:12,377 --> 00:35:14,878 Love, so... When we were dating... [chuckles] she just would ask me 1228 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,412 when we were dating... [chuckles] she just would ask me questions. 1229 00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:16,646 [chuckles] she just would ask me questions. I'm like, "why are you asking 1230 00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:17,414 questions. I'm like, "why are you asking these questions? 1231 00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:18,048 I'm like, "why are you asking these questions? I'm confused. 1232 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:19,249 These questions? I'm confused. No one's ever asked me these 1233 00:35:19,251 --> 00:35:20,083 I'm confused. No one's ever asked me these questions before." 1234 00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:22,686 no one's ever asked me these questions before." which also, like, made stuff 1235 00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:24,221 questions before." which also, like, made stuff bubble up in me that I wasn't 1236 00:35:24,223 --> 00:35:25,856 which also, like, made stuff bubble up in me that I wasn't able to deal with, and no one's 1237 00:35:25,858 --> 00:35:27,257 bubble up in me that I wasn't able to deal with, and no one's ever done that before. 1238 00:35:27,259 --> 00:35:28,758 Able to deal with, and no one's ever done that before. Most people like to tiptoe 1239 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,828 ever done that before. Most people like to tiptoe around me because of my 1240 00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:33,763 most people like to tiptoe around me because of my quick nature with my tongue. 1241 00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:37,400 Around me because of my quick nature with my tongue. And so she's different. 1242 00:35:37,402 --> 00:35:38,502 Quick nature with my tongue. And so she's different. It was very uncomfortable, 1243 00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:39,469 and so she's different. It was very uncomfortable, and I didn't like it. 1244 00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:40,537 It was very uncomfortable, and I didn't like it. I did not like it at all. 1245 00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:41,538 And I didn't like it. I did not like it at all. And so I left. 1246 00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:43,206 I did not like it at all. And so I left. And I went through a couple 1247 00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:44,841 and so I left. And I went through a couple other relationships, and I 1248 00:35:44,843 --> 00:35:46,676 and I went through a couple other relationships, and I remember calling her and being 1249 00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:48,979 other relationships, and I remember calling her and being like, "you were right. 1250 00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:50,447 Remember calling her and being like, "you were right. This is who I am. 1251 00:35:50,449 --> 00:35:51,815 Like, "you were right. This is who I am. I have to figure it out. 1252 00:35:51,817 --> 00:35:53,483 This is who I am. I have to figure it out. I can't stand you, and I love 1253 00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:54,317 I have to figure it out. I can't stand you, and I love you so much. 1254 00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:56,019 I can't stand you, and I love you so much. So help me figure it out for the 1255 00:35:56,021 --> 00:35:57,621 you so much. So help me figure it out for the rest of my life, so I can be a 1256 00:35:57,623 --> 00:35:58,522 so help me figure it out for the rest of my life, so I can be a better person." 1257 00:35:58,524 --> 00:36:02,859 rest of my life, so I can be a better person." um, the moment that came when 1258 00:36:02,861 --> 00:36:05,028 better person." um, the moment that came when I was like, "you know what? 1259 00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:06,096 Um, the moment that came when I was like, "you know what? I'm this way. 1260 00:36:06,098 --> 00:36:08,231 I was like, "you know what? I'm this way. I'm not as girly-girl as people 1261 00:36:08,233 --> 00:36:10,300 I'm this way. I'm not as girly-girl as people see me in these shows and this 1262 00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:12,135 I'm not as girly-girl as people see me in these shows and this brand that was created for 1263 00:36:12,137 --> 00:36:13,203 see me in these shows and this brand that was created for raven-symoné. 1264 00:36:13,205 --> 00:36:14,638 Brand that was created for raven-symoné. I'm super in my skin. 1265 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,439 Raven-symoné. I'm super in my skin. This is who I am," came, and 1266 00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:18,575 I'm super in my skin. This is who I am," came, and I [bleep] you not, during 1267 00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:20,944 this is who I am," came, and I [bleep] you not, during lockdown, in a public way. 1268 00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:22,946 I [bleep] you not, during lockdown, in a public way. So, for instance, the way you 1269 00:36:22,948 --> 00:36:25,081 lockdown, in a public way. So, for instance, the way you see me now is how I normally am 1270 00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:25,849 so, for instance, the way you see me now is how I normally am at home. 1271 00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:28,185 See me now is how I normally am at home. But before lockdown, when I went 1272 00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:30,487 at home. But before lockdown, when I went out to be "raven-symoné," I put 1273 00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:32,556 but before lockdown, when I went out to be "raven-symoné," I put on the bells and whistles to 1274 00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:33,957 out to be "raven-symoné," I put on the bells and whistles to match that brand. 1275 00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:35,892 On the bells and whistles to match that brand. You know, in the industry, when 1276 00:36:35,894 --> 00:36:37,661 match that brand. You know, in the industry, when you're always trying to make 1277 00:36:37,663 --> 00:36:39,629 you know, in the industry, when you're always trying to make sure that the brand is forefront 1278 00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:41,498 you're always trying to make sure that the brand is forefront and that you're projecting the 1279 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:45,535 sure that the brand is forefront and that you're projecting the right image, I tended to put my 1280 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,437 and that you're projecting the right image, I tended to put my sexuality and growth and my 1281 00:36:47,439 --> 00:36:49,306 right image, I tended to put my sexuality and growth and my gender and sexuality on the 1282 00:36:49,308 --> 00:36:51,208 sexuality and growth and my gender and sexuality on the back burner, because that's 1283 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:53,343 gender and sexuality on the back burner, because that's not what I was taught should be 1284 00:36:53,345 --> 00:36:54,644 back burner, because that's not what I was taught should be in the forefront. 1285 00:36:54,646 --> 00:36:56,112 Not what I was taught should be in the forefront. So, what I did, I just did 1286 00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:56,846 in the forefront. So, what I did, I just did on a whim. 1287 00:36:56,848 --> 00:36:58,481 So, what I did, I just did on a whim. It's not like I thought about 1288 00:36:58,483 --> 00:36:59,950 on a whim. It's not like I thought about it, I had to mull over it. 1289 00:36:59,952 --> 00:37:01,618 It's not like I thought about it, I had to mull over it. I just did what I needed to do 1290 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:03,253 it, I had to mull over it. I just did what I needed to do in my time off, and then was 1291 00:37:03,255 --> 00:37:04,854 I just did what I needed to do in my time off, and then was raven-symoné when necessary. 1292 00:37:04,856 --> 00:37:07,023 In my time off, and then was raven-symoné when necessary. So, during lockdown, all of it 1293 00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:08,825 raven-symoné when necessary. So, during lockdown, all of it came flooding in, honey. 1294 00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:10,794 So, during lockdown, all of it came flooding in, honey. All of it came flooding in. 1295 00:37:10,796 --> 00:37:12,596 Came flooding in, honey. All of it came flooding in. I'm like, "aw, I don't want to 1296 00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:13,663 all of it came flooding in. I'm like, "aw, I don't want to deal with this." 1297 00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:15,031 I'm like, "aw, I don't want to deal with this." you have people out here 1298 00:37:15,033 --> 00:37:16,600 deal with this." you have people out here body-conscious in a beautiful 1299 00:37:16,602 --> 00:37:17,033 you have people out here body-conscious in a beautiful way. 1300 00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:18,301 Body-conscious in a beautiful way. I'm like, "I don't have to do 1301 00:37:18,303 --> 00:37:18,969 way. I'm like, "I don't have to do that anymore. 1302 00:37:18,971 --> 00:37:20,237 I'm like, "I don't have to do that anymore. I don't have to be that same 1303 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,571 that anymore. I don't have to be that same person that they told me to be, 1304 00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,106 I don't have to be that same person that they told me to be, back in the day," which it's 1305 00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:24,407 person that they told me to be, back in the day," which it's very hard to break that 1306 00:37:24,409 --> 00:37:25,809 back in the day," which it's very hard to break that programming since you were 1307 00:37:25,811 --> 00:37:26,610 very hard to break that programming since you were 3 years old. 1308 00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:28,178 Programming since you were 3 years old. So it's even confusing to me 1309 00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:29,813 3 years old. So it's even confusing to me sometimes, but I have someone 1310 00:37:29,815 --> 00:37:31,381 so it's even confusing to me sometimes, but I have someone that's like, "no, you should 1311 00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:32,349 sometimes, but I have someone that's like, "no, you should wear your hair. 1312 00:37:32,351 --> 00:37:33,984 That's like, "no, you should wear your hair. No, go ahead and wear a t-shirt. 1313 00:37:33,986 --> 00:37:34,718 Wear your hair. No, go ahead and wear a t-shirt. You're fine. 1314 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:36,353 No, go ahead and wear a t-shirt. You're fine. Go ahead and put your estilo on. 1315 00:37:36,355 --> 00:37:37,020 You're fine. Go ahead and put your estilo on. You got it." 1316 00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:38,321 go ahead and put your estilo on. You got it." and I'm like, "oh, thank you, 1317 00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:38,755 you got it." and I'm like, "oh, thank you, babe." 1318 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:40,490 and I'm like, "oh, thank you, babe." I won't put that weave in and 1319 00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:42,192 babe." I won't put that weave in and extra makeup on to make sure 1320 00:37:42,194 --> 00:37:43,960 I won't put that weave in and extra makeup on to make sure somebody was "attracted to me" 1321 00:37:43,962 --> 00:37:45,862 extra makeup on to make sure somebody was "attracted to me" in whatever way hollywood wanted 1322 00:37:45,864 --> 00:37:46,997 somebody was "attracted to me" in whatever way hollywood wanted a female to look. 1323 00:37:46,999 --> 00:37:48,131 In whatever way hollywood wanted a female to look. Like, "okay, I'm good with 1324 00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:48,531 a female to look. Like, "okay, I'm good with that." 1325 00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:51,101 like, "okay, I'm good with that." and, yes, coming out at a time 1326 00:37:51,103 --> 00:37:53,703 that." and, yes, coming out at a time when it could be looked at as, 1327 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:54,804 and, yes, coming out at a time when it could be looked at as, "well, you're just following 1328 00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:55,939 when it could be looked at as, "well, you're just following this and following that," but 1329 00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:57,641 "well, you're just following this and following that," but the difference is that y'all 1330 00:37:57,643 --> 00:37:59,442 this and following that," but the difference is that y'all never saw me when I went home, 1331 00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:01,044 the difference is that y'all never saw me when I went home, so y'all don't know what I 1332 00:38:01,046 --> 00:38:02,812 never saw me when I went home, so y'all don't know what I looked like when I went home. 1333 00:38:02,814 --> 00:38:05,215 So y'all don't know what I looked like when I went home. Yes, we will have children. 1334 00:38:05,217 --> 00:38:05,982 Looked like when I went home. Yes, we will have children. Yes, we will. 1335 00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:07,417 Yes, we will have children. Yes, we will. We're figuring out how we're 1336 00:38:07,419 --> 00:38:08,218 yes, we will. We're figuring out how we're gonna do that. 1337 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:09,786 We're figuring out how we're gonna do that. The best part of being a lesbian 1338 00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:11,254 gonna do that. The best part of being a lesbian is, you can plan it [laughs], 1339 00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:12,289 the best part of being a lesbian is, you can plan it [laughs], 'cause you have to. 1340 00:38:12,291 --> 00:38:14,090 Is, you can plan it [laughs], 'cause you have to. So we're just gonna plan it 1341 00:38:14,092 --> 00:38:14,991 'cause you have to. So we're just gonna plan it to the "t." 1342 00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:16,860 so we're just gonna plan it to the "t." my wife is a doula, so she's 1343 00:38:16,862 --> 00:38:19,429 to the "t." my wife is a doula, so she's all about life. 1344 00:38:19,431 --> 00:38:20,830 My wife is a doula, so she's all about life. And that's exciting to know. 1345 00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:23,133 All about life. And that's exciting to know. So we're gonna make sure that 1346 00:38:23,135 --> 00:38:25,035 and that's exciting to know. So we're gonna make sure that we do it the right way. 1347 00:38:25,037 --> 00:38:28,471 So we're gonna make sure that we do it the right way. It's difficult to differentiate 1348 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:31,608 we do it the right way. It's difficult to differentiate who your self is, in your brain, 1349 00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:33,877 it's difficult to differentiate who your self is, in your brain, and who someone else wants you 1350 00:38:33,879 --> 00:38:35,745 who your self is, in your brain, and who someone else wants you go to be, in your brain. 1351 00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:36,913 And who someone else wants you go to be, in your brain. And I think that's another 1352 00:38:36,915 --> 00:38:38,214 go to be, in your brain. And I think that's another reason why we have a hard time 1353 00:38:38,216 --> 00:38:39,316 and I think that's another reason why we have a hard time listening, because we're 1354 00:38:39,318 --> 00:38:40,884 reason why we have a hard time listening, because we're combating, "well, I could be 1355 00:38:40,886 --> 00:38:42,585 listening, because we're combating, "well, I could be that, I could be that, I could 1356 00:38:42,587 --> 00:38:44,054 combating, "well, I could be that, I could be that, I could be that, and I want that." 1357 00:38:44,056 --> 00:38:46,222 that, I could be that, I could be that, and I want that." but what is your body doing? 1358 00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:48,591 Be that, and I want that." but what is your body doing? Like, I know for a fact, when I 1359 00:38:48,593 --> 00:38:50,593 but what is your body doing? Like, I know for a fact, when I do television shows, I stress 1360 00:38:50,595 --> 00:38:52,162 like, I know for a fact, when I do television shows, I stress out, so I gain weight. 1361 00:38:52,164 --> 00:38:53,663 Do television shows, I stress out, so I gain weight. Something is to that. 1362 00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:55,598 Out, so I gain weight. Something is to that. I don't know if that's ptsd. 1363 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,467 Something is to that. I don't know if that's ptsd. I don't know if it's, like, 1364 00:38:57,469 --> 00:38:59,402 I don't know if that's ptsd. I don't know if it's, like, I'm taking on too many things. 1365 00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:01,271 I don't know if it's, like, I'm taking on too many things. But I just tend to brp-brp-brp, 1366 00:39:01,273 --> 00:39:03,139 I'm taking on too many things. But I just tend to brp-brp-brp, 'cause I'm eating and I need to 1367 00:39:03,141 --> 00:39:04,641 but I just tend to brp-brp-brp, 'cause I'm eating and I need to self-soothe in some way. 1368 00:39:04,643 --> 00:39:07,410 'cause I'm eating and I need to self-soothe in some way. When I started directing, I felt 1369 00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:10,847 self-soothe in some way. When I started directing, I felt confident and stronger and 1370 00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:12,882 when I started directing, I felt confident and stronger and not self-soothing as much. 1371 00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:16,553 Confident and stronger and not self-soothing as much. And so, yeah, I know when I 1372 00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:18,021 not self-soothing as much. And so, yeah, I know when I start to get teary-eyed and 1373 00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:19,723 and so, yeah, I know when I start to get teary-eyed and verklempt, I say, "oh, no, 1374 00:39:19,725 --> 00:39:21,024 start to get teary-eyed and verklempt, I say, "oh, no, something's wrong." 1375 00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:25,662 verklempt, I say, "oh, no, something's wrong." the ideal is to be... 1376 00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:28,298 Something's wrong." the ideal is to be... One of the most in-demand 1377 00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,533 the ideal is to be... One of the most in-demand sitcom directors. 1378 00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:34,170 One of the most in-demand sitcom directors. There's probably this many 1379 00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:37,841 sitcom directors. There's probably this many black female sitcom directors 1380 00:39:37,843 --> 00:39:40,009 there's probably this many black female sitcom directors with the track record that I'm 1381 00:39:40,011 --> 00:39:41,478 black female sitcom directors with the track record that I'm intending to have. 1382 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,146 With the track record that I'm intending to have. But, ultimately, I want to be 1383 00:39:43,148 --> 00:39:44,881 intending to have. But, ultimately, I want to be able to take what I've learned 1384 00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:49,619 but, ultimately, I want to be able to take what I've learned for the past 35 years, and... 1385 00:39:49,621 --> 00:39:52,322 Able to take what I've learned for the past 35 years, and... Rework how it's done, in a way. 1386 00:39:52,324 --> 00:39:53,423 For the past 35 years, and... Rework how it's done, in a way. When I was on "the cosby show" 1387 00:39:53,425 --> 00:39:54,557 rework how it's done, in a way. When I was on "the cosby show" and "hangin' with mr. Cooper," 1388 00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,459 when I was on "the cosby show" and "hangin' with mr. Cooper," there was a respect, 1389 00:39:56,461 --> 00:39:58,928 and "hangin' with mr. Cooper," there was a respect, understanding, protocol, and 1390 00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:01,664 there was a respect, understanding, protocol, and time management that has gotten 1391 00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:04,234 understanding, protocol, and time management that has gotten away from sitcoms in general, 1392 00:40:04,236 --> 00:40:05,435 time management that has gotten away from sitcoms in general, and I don't like it. 1393 00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:07,003 Away from sitcoms in general, and I don't like it. And I want to bring it back 1394 00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,772 and I don't like it. And I want to bring it back to the old school while putting 1395 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:09,639 and I want to bring it back to the old school while putting a spin on it. 1396 00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:11,574 To the old school while putting a spin on it. And I think that coming from 1397 00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:13,543 a spin on it. And I think that coming from someone who has been a child 1398 00:40:13,545 --> 00:40:15,712 and I think that coming from someone who has been a child star, so I know times and I know 1399 00:40:15,714 --> 00:40:17,714 someone who has been a child star, so I know times and I know this, but also someone that's 1400 00:40:17,716 --> 00:40:19,449 star, so I know times and I know this, but also someone that's now been behind the scenes and 1401 00:40:19,451 --> 00:40:21,050 this, but also someone that's now been behind the scenes and working with the company, I 1402 00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:22,852 now been behind the scenes and working with the company, I think I have a very interesting 1403 00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:24,320 working with the company, I think I have a very interesting way of looking at stuff. 1404 00:40:24,322 --> 00:40:26,990 Think I have a very interesting way of looking at stuff. Um, ron howard, jodie foster 1405 00:40:26,992 --> 00:40:28,358 way of looking at stuff. Um, ron howard, jodie foster world -- I'm trying to 1406 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,659 um, ron howard, jodie foster world -- I'm trying to [clicks tongue] get there. 1407 00:40:29,661 --> 00:40:32,629 World -- I'm trying to [clicks tongue] get there. And then I have... 1408 00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:35,231 [clicks tongue] get there. And then I have... That thing where... 1409 00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:36,900 And then I have... That thing where... I can't fully not be in front of 1410 00:40:36,902 --> 00:40:38,234 that thing where... I can't fully not be in front of the camera, 'cause that's 1411 00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:38,968 I can't fully not be in front of the camera, 'cause that's all I know. 1412 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:40,236 The camera, 'cause that's all I know. So, youtube. 1413 00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:41,938 All I know. So, youtube. But it's on my own terms. 1414 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,206 So, youtube. But it's on my own terms. It's just stuff that's coming 1415 00:40:43,208 --> 00:40:44,140 but it's on my own terms. It's just stuff that's coming out of my own mouth. 1416 00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:47,811 It's just stuff that's coming out of my own mouth. It's not shined-up and spit and 1417 00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:49,612 out of my own mouth. It's not shined-up and spit and edited 17 million times 1418 00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:51,314 it's not shined-up and spit and edited 17 million times in a week's worth of rehearsal. 1419 00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:52,949 Edited 17 million times in a week's worth of rehearsal. It feels better to me. 1420 00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:54,117 In a week's worth of rehearsal. It feels better to me. It feels real. 1421 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:56,052 It feels better to me. It feels real. It feels like the next step 1422 00:40:56,054 --> 00:40:59,289 it feels real. It feels like the next step in who raven-symoné is, as the 1423 00:40:59,291 --> 00:41:00,890 it feels like the next step in who raven-symoné is, as the person you enjoy watching, 1424 00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:02,258 in who raven-symoné is, as the person you enjoy watching, because I'm tired of playing 1425 00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:03,059 person you enjoy watching, because I'm tired of playing somebody else. 1426 00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:04,661 Because I'm tired of playing somebody else. So that's why that's happening. 1427 00:41:04,663 --> 00:41:06,262 Somebody else. So that's why that's happening. There's more to life than 1428 00:41:06,264 --> 00:41:07,297 so that's why that's happening. There's more to life than hollywood, yo. 1429 00:41:07,299 --> 00:41:08,565 There's more to life than hollywood, yo. There's more to life than 1430 00:41:08,567 --> 00:41:10,133 hollywood, yo. There's more to life than hollywood, and we get caught up 1431 00:41:10,135 --> 00:41:11,701 there's more to life than hollywood, and we get caught up and we continue to try to follow 1432 00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:12,035 hollywood, and we get caught up and we continue to try to follow the carrot. 1433 00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:14,337 And sometimes that carrot is 1434 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:18,908 just a very, very, very shiny 1435 00:41:19,043 --> 00:41:19,742 hologram. 1436 00:41:19,877 --> 00:41:21,144 It's not even real. 1437 00:41:21,278 --> 00:41:22,011 It's changing, though. 1438 00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:23,146 Hollywood is changing -- some 1439 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,247 stuff that's a wild wild west 1440 00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:24,747 out there. 1441 00:41:24,882 --> 00:41:25,582 You know what I mean? 1442 00:41:25,716 --> 00:41:27,717 Like, there are so many other 1443 00:41:27,852 --> 00:41:29,385 ways to become famous. 1444 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,455 So the journey has changed. 1445 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:34,657 But, ultimately, it's still 1446 00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:38,595 a manufactured piece of work 1447 00:41:38,729 --> 00:41:41,331 for entertainment. 1448 00:41:41,465 --> 00:41:43,266 What you see on television 1449 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,767 is not real. 1450 00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:45,001 Sorry.