1 00:00:04,230 --> 00:00:06,714 - We call the defendant, Laura Broder. 2 00:00:17,259 --> 00:00:19,518 - Please raise your right hand. 3 00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:23,597 Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, 4 00:00:23,673 --> 00:00:25,983 and nothing but the truth? 5 00:00:36,779 --> 00:00:38,019 - Ma'am? 6 00:00:38,764 --> 00:00:41,948 Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth 7 00:00:42,101 --> 00:00:44,126 and nothing but the truth? 8 00:00:49,608 --> 00:00:54,928 - Truth, for Plato, is absolute. 9 00:00:55,464 --> 00:00:57,556 It's objective. 10 00:00:58,784 --> 00:01:01,560 It transcends physical forms, 11 00:01:02,045 --> 00:01:04,396 indifferent to us mortals. 12 00:01:06,233 --> 00:01:10,069 Truth doesn't need us to believe it. 13 00:01:10,738 --> 00:01:12,071 It just is. 14 00:01:13,132 --> 00:01:14,314 Thanks, guys. 15 00:01:14,466 --> 00:01:16,492 We'll see you all next week. 16 00:01:18,637 --> 00:01:20,746 - Here's the updated syllabus with the new dates. 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,416 You know, if you want, I can make the midterm revisions myself. 18 00:01:24,493 --> 00:01:26,568 - No. No, I got it. - Okay. 19 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:28,712 I think it's amazing that you're teaching. 20 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:31,998 - Well, it is my job. 21 00:01:32,075 --> 00:01:33,834 - No, yeah, of course. 22 00:01:33,928 --> 00:01:35,485 I, I just... 23 00:01:36,488 --> 00:01:39,172 it's only been two months since your son passed. 24 00:01:39,325 --> 00:01:40,657 - Right. Well, he didn't pass exactly. 25 00:01:40,676 --> 00:01:43,644 He was gunned down. Along with eight other children. 26 00:01:45,998 --> 00:01:47,356 I'm... 27 00:01:48,834 --> 00:01:50,150 I'm sorry. 28 00:01:56,024 --> 00:01:57,098 (knocking) 29 00:01:57,118 --> 00:01:58,659 - Hey, bud. 30 00:02:02,030 --> 00:02:03,580 How are you doing? 31 00:02:05,033 --> 00:02:06,625 - It's just weird. 32 00:02:08,278 --> 00:02:09,353 Seeing his name. 33 00:02:09,371 --> 00:02:11,588 I don't know if I'm supposed to like... 34 00:02:12,524 --> 00:02:14,424 delete it or what. 35 00:02:15,952 --> 00:02:17,553 - Yeah. I don't know. 36 00:02:19,214 --> 00:02:20,455 You don't have homework? 37 00:02:20,532 --> 00:02:22,382 What about your History essay? 38 00:02:23,369 --> 00:02:25,869 - No one's really gonna fail me right now. 39 00:02:25,888 --> 00:02:27,521 (scoffs) 40 00:02:28,149 --> 00:02:29,373 - Okay. 41 00:02:29,466 --> 00:02:31,892 Well, if you wanna brainstorm, I'm happy to. 42 00:02:32,044 --> 00:02:36,071 Or you can, you can... you can talk it out with your mom. 43 00:02:37,825 --> 00:02:39,140 (sighs) 44 00:02:39,234 --> 00:02:41,160 Look, I know she's been tough to reach lately, 45 00:02:41,311 --> 00:02:43,662 but she's here for ya, okay? 46 00:02:48,169 --> 00:02:49,334 She's picking me up. 47 00:02:49,411 --> 00:02:51,578 We're supposed to be at the studio at 5:30. 48 00:02:51,655 --> 00:02:53,321 We should be back by 7. 49 00:02:53,399 --> 00:02:54,581 - She's doing another interview? 50 00:02:54,733 --> 00:02:57,234 - Well, it's something she feels she need to do. 51 00:02:57,252 --> 00:02:59,403 She's just tryin' to... 52 00:02:59,421 --> 00:03:02,139 make sense out of all this, you know? 53 00:03:03,667 --> 00:03:04,683 Jonah? 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,185 - Yeah. 55 00:03:06,261 --> 00:03:07,728 Fine. 56 00:03:19,107 --> 00:03:21,182 - Hi. - Sorry, I'm late. 57 00:03:21,202 --> 00:03:22,850 - We've got time. 58 00:03:23,445 --> 00:03:26,020 - I snapped at my TA for no reason 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,957 then I insisted on buying him a coffee. - Hm. 60 00:03:29,618 --> 00:03:31,117 How was your class? 61 00:03:31,194 --> 00:03:32,436 - Uh, 62 00:03:32,529 --> 00:03:35,288 used to be they were all staring at their phones. 63 00:03:35,441 --> 00:03:38,175 Now they're staring at me like I've got three heads. 64 00:03:40,054 --> 00:03:42,012 How's Jonah? 65 00:03:43,131 --> 00:03:45,390 - Maybe you should ask him. 66 00:03:46,134 --> 00:03:48,009 - What does that mean? 67 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:50,287 - Nothing, just... 68 00:03:50,305 --> 00:03:53,214 he's still got some assignments overdue 69 00:03:53,234 --> 00:03:54,791 and he might need your help. 70 00:03:54,793 --> 00:03:56,884 Maybe you could try to spend some time with him? 71 00:03:56,962 --> 00:03:58,478 - I have been meaning to. 72 00:03:58,630 --> 00:04:02,449 - I know. - I don't know why it feels so hard. 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,153 Joining us now via satellite 74 00:04:07,230 --> 00:04:09,063 Professor Laura Broder, 75 00:04:09,083 --> 00:04:10,640 whose 12-year-old son, Liam, 76 00:04:10,659 --> 00:04:12,476 was one of the nine children killed 77 00:04:12,478 --> 00:04:15,312 when a fellow student opened fire at Park Ridge High School 78 00:04:15,314 --> 00:04:16,813 in Lake Forest, Illinois. 79 00:04:16,906 --> 00:04:18,315 She's calling on the State Senate 80 00:04:18,317 --> 00:04:21,075 to pass two pieces of gun safety legislation 81 00:04:21,095 --> 00:04:22,669 currently being debated. 82 00:04:22,746 --> 00:04:24,838 Professor, thank you for speaking with us today. 83 00:04:24,914 --> 00:04:26,448 - Thank you for having me. 84 00:04:26,658 --> 00:04:30,251 - Before we go any further, what can you tell me about your son? 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,439 - Well. He was a very special kid. 86 00:04:34,924 --> 00:04:36,182 When he grew up, 87 00:04:36,277 --> 00:04:39,836 he wanted to split his time as a marine biologist 88 00:04:39,838 --> 00:04:42,172 and a professional ice-cream maker. 89 00:04:42,674 --> 00:04:45,266 - You were kind enough to share a photo. 90 00:04:45,727 --> 00:04:49,288 I understand he was quite the expert on turtles. 91 00:04:49,364 --> 00:04:51,272 - Yes, turtles were his favorite. 92 00:04:51,292 --> 00:04:52,958 Even when he was little. 93 00:04:53,035 --> 00:04:55,702 He would pull out fun facts 94 00:04:55,854 --> 00:04:58,714 mostly to bargain for more screen time. 95 00:04:59,783 --> 00:05:01,207 "What's five more minutes? 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,618 Turtles live 150 years." 97 00:05:04,546 --> 00:05:08,456 - This is obviously an immensely difficult time. 98 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:12,293 But yet you've chosen to speak publicly and lobby for action. 99 00:05:12,313 --> 00:05:13,478 - Yes, 100 00:05:13,630 --> 00:05:15,705 shootings like these 101 00:05:15,707 --> 00:05:17,465 aren't natural disasters. 102 00:05:17,484 --> 00:05:20,560 They're preventable. There are things we can do. 103 00:05:20,712 --> 00:05:24,305 And Senate Bill 83 would close the gun show loophole 104 00:05:24,383 --> 00:05:27,326 and reinstate the ban on assault rifles. 105 00:05:27,402 --> 00:05:28,885 Look, I... 106 00:05:28,887 --> 00:05:30,904 I can't bring back my son 107 00:05:31,740 --> 00:05:35,667 but I can do everything in my power to prevent another one. 108 00:05:35,819 --> 00:05:38,895 So that no other parents have to go through 109 00:05:38,914 --> 00:05:41,398 a nightmare like this. 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,659 - And to those who deny it happened altogether? 111 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:49,389 I assume you're aware of the hashtag "ParkRidgeExposed"? 112 00:05:49,999 --> 00:05:51,016 (scoffs) 113 00:05:51,167 --> 00:05:52,500 Professor? 114 00:05:52,578 --> 00:05:53,910 - Sorry, I... 115 00:05:54,413 --> 00:05:57,097 - This was posted by a Joanna Pierce. 116 00:05:57,249 --> 00:05:59,524 One of the most vocal deniers. 117 00:05:59,601 --> 00:06:03,511 - Yes, I have seen the so-called footage with my own two eyes 118 00:06:03,589 --> 00:06:06,439 and you can see... you can obviously see, 119 00:06:06,516 --> 00:06:10,351 when the kids start running out of the building, the tape doubles back. 120 00:06:10,429 --> 00:06:11,778 Twice. 121 00:06:11,930 --> 00:06:13,947 Like it's been doctored. 122 00:06:14,099 --> 00:06:16,766 And no one is talking about that! No one! 123 00:06:16,785 --> 00:06:20,212 And lemme tell you, these people who have hijacked our country, 124 00:06:20,288 --> 00:06:23,456 the globalists, uh, pedophiles, child traffickers, 125 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:26,610 they have tentacles in every pocket of the government, media, 126 00:06:26,628 --> 00:06:28,294 and don't think for a second 127 00:06:28,463 --> 00:06:32,039 they wouldn't have staged something like this, 'cause they would. 128 00:06:32,059 --> 00:06:33,875 So they can come into my home 129 00:06:33,894 --> 00:06:38,880 and confiscate my guns and violate my Second Amendment rights? 130 00:06:38,957 --> 00:06:40,381 Uh-uh. 131 00:06:40,401 --> 00:06:43,476 Because these kids didn't die. 132 00:06:44,463 --> 00:06:47,464 (chuckles) None of this is real! 133 00:06:47,799 --> 00:06:50,558 None of it! It's not real. 134 00:06:51,895 --> 00:06:55,972 - As of this morning, it has nearly a million views. 135 00:06:55,991 --> 00:06:58,708 Any response to her claim? 136 00:07:03,982 --> 00:07:05,498 - That was a total ambush. 137 00:07:05,651 --> 00:07:07,575 We were supposed to be talking about the legislation. 138 00:07:07,594 --> 00:07:10,353 - I know, but you handled it as well as you could have. 139 00:07:10,355 --> 00:07:11,930 - My God, it really is everywhere. 140 00:07:12,081 --> 00:07:13,840 - Lo, there's a reason we didn't look. 141 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:18,161 - What the hell is she doing amplifying this crap on national television? 142 00:07:18,163 --> 00:07:20,180 I mean, it's completely irresponsible. 143 00:07:20,332 --> 00:07:21,514 - Listen to me. It's done. 144 00:07:21,667 --> 00:07:24,184 I'm proud of you. I'm really upset about it too 145 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:26,486 but there's nothing we can do about it. 146 00:07:28,097 --> 00:07:29,990 - Look at this. 147 00:07:35,438 --> 00:07:37,347 - I understand the platforms aren't liable, 148 00:07:37,365 --> 00:07:40,200 but there are still laws against defamation, right? 149 00:07:40,352 --> 00:07:42,777 (door creaking) - Mom. Food's here. 150 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:45,188 - I'm sorry, could you repeat that? - It's gonna get cold. 151 00:07:45,190 --> 00:07:47,340 - Just start without me, okay? 152 00:07:48,952 --> 00:07:50,760 (sighs) - Yeah. 153 00:07:54,641 --> 00:07:56,975 - First she wants to rewrite the Second Amendment, 154 00:07:57,126 --> 00:07:58,977 now she's gonna sue Mark Zuckerberg? 155 00:07:59,054 --> 00:08:00,720 - She was blindsided. 156 00:08:00,797 --> 00:08:03,106 You can understand that, can't you? 157 00:08:06,712 --> 00:08:08,803 - Well, thanks to Article 230, 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,397 apparently none of the social media companies are responsible 159 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:13,474 for any of the content on their sites. 160 00:08:13,494 --> 00:08:16,736 He did say that if they... use Liam's image, 161 00:08:16,813 --> 00:08:20,147 we can flag that as a copyright violation. 162 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:21,891 - Well, that's something. 163 00:08:21,910 --> 00:08:24,503 - So it's our job to go through this crap? 164 00:08:24,579 --> 00:08:26,338 It's illegal to use his image 165 00:08:26,414 --> 00:08:29,156 but saying that he never existed, that's fair game? 166 00:08:29,234 --> 00:08:30,509 - This is what they do, Mom. 167 00:08:30,585 --> 00:08:32,919 These Covid truthers, vaccine truthers. 168 00:08:33,071 --> 00:08:36,239 - Can we not call them "truthers"? - Call them whatever you want. 169 00:08:36,258 --> 00:08:38,908 Maybe check Twitter before going on national TV. 170 00:08:38,927 --> 00:08:41,353 - Alright. Just take a breath. - What's that supposed to mean? 171 00:08:41,429 --> 00:08:43,337 - I mean it wasn't exactly a secret. 172 00:08:43,357 --> 00:08:46,340 - Wait, you knew about this? And you didn't think to tell us? 173 00:08:46,418 --> 00:08:48,026 - I knew you'd do this. - What? 174 00:08:48,177 --> 00:08:49,936 - "This?" What, what am I supposed to do? 175 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:53,198 - Ignore it, Mom, like... like a normal person. 176 00:08:53,349 --> 00:08:54,941 This is how the internet works. 177 00:08:55,093 --> 00:08:56,517 - Yeah. I get that, Jonah. 178 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:58,519 Okay. I'm not naive. 179 00:08:59,097 --> 00:09:01,581 But this is your brother. 180 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:03,767 This is his memory. 181 00:09:03,785 --> 00:09:06,286 This is what comes up when you search Liam's name. 182 00:09:06,362 --> 00:09:09,047 - Yeah, well somehow I don't think he cares. 183 00:09:18,950 --> 00:09:20,633 - I'll talk to him. 184 00:09:20,786 --> 00:09:22,561 - No. I'll, I'll, I'll do it. 185 00:09:22,637 --> 00:09:24,646 I just... I need a minute. 186 00:09:27,626 --> 00:09:30,527 It's like they're killing him all over again. 187 00:09:37,578 --> 00:09:39,152 (door slamming shut) 188 00:09:39,228 --> 00:09:41,580 (Jonah pants) 189 00:09:45,752 --> 00:09:47,377 - Jonah! 190 00:09:48,163 --> 00:09:49,996 We need to be in there. 191 00:09:50,073 --> 00:09:52,090 We need to be strong for her. 192 00:09:52,241 --> 00:09:54,909 - No, this... this is so messed up. 193 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:56,836 I... this is my fault. 194 00:09:56,913 --> 00:09:58,579 - Shh... shh... Okay. It's alright. 195 00:09:58,599 --> 00:10:00,006 - I'm gonna be sick. - It's okay. 196 00:10:00,158 --> 00:10:02,124 Look... look at me. 197 00:10:02,769 --> 00:10:05,562 We all made mistakes. Okay? 198 00:10:06,589 --> 00:10:08,398 All of us. 199 00:10:12,762 --> 00:10:14,446 (door closing) 200 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,461 (theme music) 201 00:10:42,792 --> 00:10:45,310 - I'm having a hard time... 202 00:10:45,979 --> 00:10:49,481 ...with all the uh, noise, I guess. 203 00:10:50,208 --> 00:10:51,983 - How do you mean? 204 00:10:52,060 --> 00:10:54,486 - All these lunatics online 205 00:10:54,562 --> 00:10:56,562 claiming the whole thing was staged. 206 00:10:56,715 --> 00:10:58,156 That no one really died. 207 00:10:58,233 --> 00:11:00,750 - That's disgusting. - Unbelievable. 208 00:11:00,752 --> 00:11:03,995 - It's hard enough accepting... 209 00:11:04,614 --> 00:11:06,556 ...that Liam's gone. 210 00:11:06,574 --> 00:11:08,741 But knowing that there are people out there 211 00:11:08,818 --> 00:11:11,586 insisting that he wasn't real? 212 00:11:15,083 --> 00:11:16,966 I've been... 213 00:11:18,161 --> 00:11:20,470 ...wondering what we might do. 214 00:11:20,906 --> 00:11:22,013 - Do? 215 00:11:22,683 --> 00:11:26,592 - We've been considering publishing Liam's death certificate online. 216 00:11:26,669 --> 00:11:30,522 - Well, we've been... we've been talking about it. - Well... 217 00:11:31,525 --> 00:11:33,191 Eric thinks I'm crazy. 218 00:11:33,342 --> 00:11:35,985 - I don't think you're crazy. I just... 219 00:11:37,013 --> 00:11:38,679 I don't see the point of it. 220 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:43,851 - What if we were to make a statement together? 221 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,995 Just something. 222 00:11:48,191 --> 00:11:50,191 It's not going away. 223 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:51,784 If anything, it's getting worse. 224 00:11:51,861 --> 00:11:55,455 And people are asking why we're not saying anything. 225 00:11:55,531 --> 00:11:57,549 You know, like as if we have something to hide. 226 00:11:57,625 --> 00:12:00,944 - People are monsters. They're sick. 227 00:12:00,946 --> 00:12:02,128 - Some of them. 228 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,538 But some of them must be reachable. 229 00:12:04,616 --> 00:12:08,226 I mean, I tell my students skepticism is healthy. Right? 230 00:12:08,303 --> 00:12:10,228 If people have questions about what happened, 231 00:12:10,379 --> 00:12:12,472 I want to try to answer them. 232 00:12:12,548 --> 00:12:14,149 With facts. 233 00:12:15,126 --> 00:12:16,651 With proof. 234 00:12:19,388 --> 00:12:22,323 Shouldn't we at least try? 235 00:12:25,487 --> 00:12:27,320 - I gotta admit... 236 00:12:28,139 --> 00:12:32,141 ...I've been a junkie for that conspiracy stuff for as long as I can remember. 237 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,736 Info Wars, Pizzagate, you name it. 238 00:12:36,648 --> 00:12:40,650 I always figured, if there's smoke there's fire, right? 239 00:12:40,652 --> 00:12:44,596 All fun and games till it's your kid that's dead and buried. 240 00:12:45,673 --> 00:12:47,824 - Maybe Laura's right then. 241 00:12:47,842 --> 00:12:50,510 - You can't engage with trolls. 242 00:12:50,586 --> 00:12:52,086 They're cowards. 243 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:53,846 Hiding behind a screen. 244 00:12:53,999 --> 00:12:56,441 - So what if we do it in person? 245 00:12:57,426 --> 00:13:00,003 I want them to look me in the eye 246 00:13:00,021 --> 00:13:03,172 and tell me that my son wasn't real. 247 00:13:03,174 --> 00:13:06,326 (soft music) 248 00:13:08,104 --> 00:13:11,998 (indistinct chatter) 249 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:19,856 Has Gillian texted you? (beeping) 250 00:13:19,874 --> 00:13:21,448 - They're not coming. 251 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,968 Damnit. - It's already ten after. 252 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,804 - Okay. Okay. 253 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,639 - You sure? - Yeah. 254 00:13:28,366 --> 00:13:29,957 Hi, hi. 255 00:13:30,035 --> 00:13:31,625 Thank you all for coming. 256 00:13:31,870 --> 00:13:36,180 I know some of you have... have travelled quite a distance to be here. 257 00:13:36,483 --> 00:13:40,134 My name is Laura Broder. This is my husband Eric. 258 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:45,156 Our son Liam... was one of the victims. 259 00:13:45,233 --> 00:13:47,567 This is Molly and Ben Greenfield. 260 00:13:47,643 --> 00:13:49,994 Their daughter Allison was also murdered. 261 00:13:51,056 --> 00:13:55,575 I know that there have been a lot of theories and misinformation online. 262 00:13:55,727 --> 00:13:59,896 I have brought evidence of Liam's entire life. 263 00:13:59,914 --> 00:14:04,592 I have a hard copy of his death certificate if you want to see it. 264 00:14:05,995 --> 00:14:07,679 (sighs) 265 00:14:07,830 --> 00:14:09,764 Sorry, um... 266 00:14:10,851 --> 00:14:12,517 You know what? 267 00:14:12,668 --> 00:14:16,688 Any questions you have, we'll... we'll just do our best to answer. 268 00:14:18,266 --> 00:14:19,916 - Why were there no helicopters? 269 00:14:19,934 --> 00:14:23,177 Nine kids bleeding out and no trauma helicopters called? 270 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,755 - So the nearest hospital, Lehigh Valley, 271 00:14:25,848 --> 00:14:27,273 they don't have helicopters. 272 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:29,609 The ambulances were on their way within minutes. 273 00:14:29,761 --> 00:14:32,111 Helicopters were called when three of the victims 274 00:14:32,188 --> 00:14:34,113 needed to be transferred to Chestnut Hill. 275 00:14:34,766 --> 00:14:36,766 - Why aren't you suing the first responders? 276 00:14:36,784 --> 00:14:38,877 I read it took them over an hour. 277 00:14:38,953 --> 00:14:41,604 - That's, that's not true. They were here a lot faster than that. 278 00:14:41,606 --> 00:14:43,548 And in, you know, in Liam's case, for example, 279 00:14:43,699 --> 00:14:45,550 there's nothing that could have been done so. 280 00:14:45,701 --> 00:14:48,778 - I'll be honest, I have three of my own and... 281 00:14:48,871 --> 00:14:52,098 it feels like a new one of these happen every week. 282 00:14:52,967 --> 00:14:54,951 And how can that be? 283 00:14:54,953 --> 00:14:57,061 How... 284 00:14:57,972 --> 00:15:00,047 Are there really this many sickos 285 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:03,884 who wanna pump bullets into a bunch of kids, I just... 286 00:15:03,962 --> 00:15:07,130 I, I, I can't imagine it. 287 00:15:07,148 --> 00:15:09,482 - Yeah. It's unimaginable. 288 00:15:09,634 --> 00:15:12,744 - Uh, what about your maiden name? 289 00:15:12,895 --> 00:15:14,153 - Sorry? 290 00:15:14,305 --> 00:15:16,063 - Hi, Joanna Lynn Pierce. 291 00:15:16,082 --> 00:15:18,399 Executive reporter for The Daily Inquest. 292 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:22,069 Your maiden name. Birkheimer, right? 293 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:24,480 (clears throat) - That's right. 294 00:15:24,482 --> 00:15:26,791 - You expect us to believe that 295 00:15:26,867 --> 00:15:32,413 it's just a coincidence that there's a Swedish lobbyist named Laura Birkheimer 296 00:15:32,490 --> 00:15:36,342 who tried to outlaw firearms in three European countries? 297 00:15:36,494 --> 00:15:37,769 (crowd whispers) 298 00:15:37,996 --> 00:15:40,271 - Uh, well, I was born in Scranton. 299 00:15:40,423 --> 00:15:42,181 So, I can show you my passport. 300 00:15:42,333 --> 00:15:44,425 - Oh well, passports can be faked. 301 00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,444 Let's see the room where it happened. 302 00:15:46,595 --> 00:15:50,097 - I actually tried to get access but the local police wouldn't allow it. 303 00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:51,524 - Oh, and why is that, I wonder. 304 00:15:51,676 --> 00:15:54,844 I hear they're planning to tear the whole thing down. 305 00:15:54,862 --> 00:15:58,039 What are they afraid we'll find? 306 00:15:59,033 --> 00:16:01,442 - It's the site of a mass murder. 307 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:04,128 Where... where my son was killed and eight... 308 00:16:04,355 --> 00:16:06,297 - Except he wasn't really your son, was he? 309 00:16:06,449 --> 00:16:08,299 - Excuse me? - Excuse me? 310 00:16:08,451 --> 00:16:09,950 - Do you have his adoption papers in that box? 311 00:16:09,970 --> 00:16:11,694 - I'm sorry. Excuse me. 312 00:16:11,787 --> 00:16:14,714 What the hell does his adoption have to do with him being murdered? 313 00:16:14,866 --> 00:16:17,124 - I'm just asking questions here. You never wanted your own? 314 00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:19,435 - They are my own. 315 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,872 I have cervical stenosis. 316 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:24,965 I had three miscarriages, 317 00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:26,633 the last one put me in a hospital. 318 00:16:26,653 --> 00:16:28,802 Would you like to see my medical records? 319 00:16:28,822 --> 00:16:30,896 - I would like to see the coroner's report. 320 00:16:31,049 --> 00:16:32,548 Why was that never released? 321 00:16:32,567 --> 00:16:34,066 - Oh, for God's sake, why the hell do you think? 322 00:16:34,219 --> 00:16:35,401 - Okay, Ben, maybe we should go. 323 00:16:35,553 --> 00:16:37,478 - If you want us to believe these kids are dead, 324 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:38,812 let's see... let's just see some proof. 325 00:16:38,890 --> 00:16:40,223 - You know what? - Have some respect! 326 00:16:40,241 --> 00:16:41,648 - We're done here. - They're already in the ground. 327 00:16:41,817 --> 00:16:43,817 - Oh, well, isn't that convenient? - This is pointless. 328 00:16:43,895 --> 00:16:45,895 - How do you people sleep at night? - Let's go. Let's go. 329 00:16:45,913 --> 00:16:47,747 - Oh yeah, go, go. Run. Run. 330 00:16:47,841 --> 00:16:51,584 Take your dirty money, get back on that plane to Switzerland. How 'bout that? 331 00:16:52,328 --> 00:16:55,421 - I'm sorry, don't you mean Sweden? 332 00:16:55,573 --> 00:16:56,681 - Laura. 333 00:16:56,832 --> 00:16:59,258 - Because Swedish lobbyists come from Sweden. 334 00:16:59,410 --> 00:17:00,743 - Oh, thank you, professor. 335 00:17:00,762 --> 00:17:04,263 Some of us didn't have the luxury of a fancy education. 336 00:17:04,340 --> 00:17:06,766 But we're not suckers. 337 00:17:06,842 --> 00:17:08,084 We have eyes. 338 00:17:08,086 --> 00:17:09,935 We can see. 339 00:17:10,012 --> 00:17:12,363 You hear me? 340 00:17:13,591 --> 00:17:15,575 Did you get that? 341 00:17:19,447 --> 00:17:21,280 - No, I, I understand there are protocols, 342 00:17:21,357 --> 00:17:22,689 but these people are insane. 343 00:17:22,767 --> 00:17:25,935 I mean, they're coming after me any way they can. 344 00:17:25,953 --> 00:17:27,787 My inbox is a mountain of hate mail 345 00:17:27,863 --> 00:17:31,215 and... and Eric has had to take down his Yelp page altogether. 346 00:17:31,367 --> 00:17:33,885 This is clearly more of the same. 347 00:17:33,961 --> 00:17:35,720 (phone beeping) 348 00:17:37,373 --> 00:17:41,059 Simon, uh, it's my husband. I need to call you back. 349 00:17:41,210 --> 00:17:42,894 (line ringing) Hey. 350 00:17:43,045 --> 00:17:44,787 You're not gonna believe this. - Laura? Listen. 351 00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:47,231 - Someone filed an anonymous sexual harassment complaint. 352 00:17:47,383 --> 00:17:50,717 And the dean says he needs to open a Title 9 investigation. 353 00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:52,628 - Laura, you need to come home. - What? 354 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:54,814 - They published our address on 4chan. 355 00:17:54,890 --> 00:17:57,108 Along with our cell numbers, and your social security. 356 00:17:57,260 --> 00:18:00,244 - Wait... (scoffs) Wait, hold on. 357 00:18:00,396 --> 00:18:02,321 - I already got Jonah out of school. 358 00:18:02,398 --> 00:18:04,565 You just get home as soon as you can, okay? 359 00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:05,732 And be safe. 360 00:18:05,901 --> 00:18:08,235 (man on the phone): You better stay alert. 361 00:18:08,254 --> 00:18:10,313 'Cause we're gonna find you wherever you go. 362 00:18:10,315 --> 00:18:13,091 We're gonna get you. You and your fake kid. 363 00:18:13,167 --> 00:18:15,259 - And this happened one time? 364 00:18:15,336 --> 00:18:16,836 - 5:37. 365 00:18:16,912 --> 00:18:19,488 - The number was blocked but maybe there's a way to trace it? 366 00:18:19,507 --> 00:18:21,657 - It's obviously Joanna Lynn Pierce. 367 00:18:21,659 --> 00:18:23,584 - Who? - Oh, she's this lunatic conspiracist. 368 00:18:23,661 --> 00:18:25,586 - One of these crazy Park Ridge hoaxers. 369 00:18:25,663 --> 00:18:27,496 - We... we pissed her off 370 00:18:27,515 --> 00:18:29,849 and now we're being targeted by her army of trolls. 371 00:18:30,001 --> 00:18:31,167 Here. 372 00:18:31,185 --> 00:18:32,593 "Die bitch. 373 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:35,020 Hope you boil in feces." 374 00:18:35,598 --> 00:18:37,097 She's all over YouTube. 375 00:18:37,117 --> 00:18:40,743 She's been screaming about us for weeks. 376 00:18:43,698 --> 00:18:45,514 - We'll look into it. 377 00:18:45,516 --> 00:18:47,350 And we'll take your phone as well. 378 00:18:47,368 --> 00:18:49,460 See if anything on it we can trace. 379 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:53,205 In the meantime, do you have anywhere to stay? 380 00:18:53,358 --> 00:18:56,092 Any family in the area? 381 00:19:10,132 --> 00:19:12,525 - It's just a few nights, okay? 382 00:19:13,987 --> 00:19:15,611 (Laura sighs) Okay, bud? 383 00:19:25,223 --> 00:19:27,498 - I'm sorry, okay? 384 00:19:30,986 --> 00:19:33,004 What do I need to say it? 385 00:19:33,155 --> 00:19:34,505 Obviously you were right. 386 00:19:34,657 --> 00:19:38,092 - Well, we need to just focus on what's next, right? 387 00:19:41,014 --> 00:19:43,255 Maybe we go to Baltimore 388 00:19:43,332 --> 00:19:45,257 and stay with my parents. 389 00:19:45,410 --> 00:19:48,019 I can call uh, Furman Templeton, 390 00:19:48,095 --> 00:19:52,264 it's a great public school, we could see if they'd take Jonah as a midyear transfer. 391 00:19:52,358 --> 00:19:54,250 - Wait, you mean like go for good? 392 00:19:54,343 --> 00:19:55,676 Just like that? 393 00:19:55,753 --> 00:19:58,421 - I want us to be safe, Lo. - No, of course, but... 394 00:19:58,439 --> 00:20:01,365 - And honestly maybe Jonah could use a... a fresh start. 395 00:20:01,517 --> 00:20:02,925 - What about his friends? 396 00:20:02,944 --> 00:20:04,610 His life? 397 00:20:05,596 --> 00:20:08,355 Not to mention, you can work from anywhere. 398 00:20:08,433 --> 00:20:10,190 I can't. I'm on a tenure track. 399 00:20:10,284 --> 00:20:12,284 - I'm not pretending any of this is easy, okay? 400 00:20:12,361 --> 00:20:14,787 Maybe you could take a sabbatical. 401 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:16,956 Maybe you could use it. 402 00:20:17,108 --> 00:20:18,216 (scoffs) 403 00:20:19,034 --> 00:20:22,127 - I'm getting pretty sick of people telling me how to grieve. 404 00:20:22,204 --> 00:20:23,946 I don't need that from you. 405 00:20:23,965 --> 00:20:25,765 - Okay. 406 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:29,894 - Hey. 407 00:20:29,971 --> 00:20:31,211 - Hey. 408 00:20:31,231 --> 00:20:32,396 - I brought coffee. 409 00:20:32,473 --> 00:20:34,715 - Oh, you didn't have to do that. 410 00:20:35,401 --> 00:20:38,402 We've got new numbers, new cellphones. 411 00:20:38,554 --> 00:20:41,480 We got a new PO Box. Different names. 412 00:20:41,557 --> 00:20:43,557 - I'm so sorry. 413 00:20:44,135 --> 00:20:46,469 - You said you wanted to talk? 414 00:20:46,988 --> 00:20:49,205 (sighs) - Right. Um... 415 00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,707 It's about the group. 416 00:20:53,327 --> 00:20:55,902 Some of the other parents, they'd, um... 417 00:20:56,497 --> 00:20:59,331 they'd rather you and Eric stop coming. 418 00:20:59,408 --> 00:21:01,074 (scoffs) 419 00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:03,261 I think it's despicable, honestly. 420 00:21:03,412 --> 00:21:05,504 I, I think they're just afraid, is all. 421 00:21:05,656 --> 00:21:08,081 They're... they're scared of becoming targets. 422 00:21:08,101 --> 00:21:09,842 - Yeah. Right. 423 00:21:09,994 --> 00:21:11,435 We're, uh... 424 00:21:11,512 --> 00:21:13,178 we're radioactive. 425 00:21:13,331 --> 00:21:15,347 - You know, we probably won't keep going. 426 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:17,833 Ben hates all the New Age-y talk. 427 00:21:18,111 --> 00:21:19,944 And the coffee tastes like dirt. 428 00:21:20,021 --> 00:21:22,029 I'm sorry. 429 00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:27,768 - You know we were only gonna adopt one originally 430 00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:30,195 and then we found out that Liam had an older brother 431 00:21:30,348 --> 00:21:34,283 who was two years older and he also needed a home. 432 00:21:34,943 --> 00:21:36,943 And that felt better. 433 00:21:38,022 --> 00:21:41,465 Knowing that they'd always have each other. 434 00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:15,224 (engine roaring) 435 00:22:15,226 --> 00:22:16,742 (tires screeching) 436 00:22:16,836 --> 00:22:18,586 Hey! (Jonah grunts) 437 00:22:22,233 --> 00:22:24,592 (tires screeching) 438 00:22:27,496 --> 00:22:30,014 (panting) 439 00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:37,063 - What the hell happened? 440 00:22:38,191 --> 00:22:39,857 Hey, Jonah! Talk to me. 441 00:22:39,934 --> 00:22:42,860 What happened? - Why'd she have to go on TV in the first place? 442 00:22:43,011 --> 00:22:45,196 You knew it was a mistake! 443 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,257 And... and you let her do it anyway. 444 00:22:48,275 --> 00:22:50,593 And now they're never gonna stop. Ever. 445 00:22:50,595 --> 00:22:52,018 - You're safe. - No. 446 00:22:52,096 --> 00:22:53,278 - Do you hear me? - No. 447 00:22:53,355 --> 00:22:56,022 - Look at me. You're safe. We'll keep you safe. 448 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,042 - How? 449 00:23:00,938 --> 00:23:02,755 (crying) 450 00:23:10,948 --> 00:23:13,707 - We've sent the vehicle description out to every precinct in the county. 451 00:23:13,784 --> 00:23:15,876 - It's harder without plates but... - What about Joanna Pierce? 452 00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:17,953 - There's no evidence to suggest she was directly involved. 453 00:23:17,955 --> 00:23:21,232 - If it wasn't her at the wheel, it was someone doing her bidding. 454 00:23:21,308 --> 00:23:23,175 She has thousands of followers 455 00:23:23,327 --> 00:23:24,718 and her rhetoric is only escalating. 456 00:23:24,795 --> 00:23:27,129 - Has she made any specific threats of violence? 457 00:23:27,148 --> 00:23:28,464 - She's calling us Satanists 458 00:23:28,466 --> 00:23:30,816 and pedophiles who deserve to be lynched. 459 00:23:30,968 --> 00:23:33,244 - What about stationing someone outside our place? 460 00:23:33,395 --> 00:23:35,246 In case they doxx us again? 461 00:23:35,322 --> 00:23:37,139 - We just don't have the manpower. 462 00:23:37,158 --> 00:23:39,232 I'm sorry. (scoffs) 463 00:23:39,252 --> 00:23:41,477 Do you have any kind of home defense? 464 00:23:41,479 --> 00:23:44,163 - What do you mean? - I mean do you have a gun? 465 00:23:44,315 --> 00:23:47,466 Because if I were you-- - That's not happening. 466 00:23:48,094 --> 00:23:50,428 Thank you, officer. 467 00:23:52,098 --> 00:23:54,432 - Come on. Let's go. 468 00:23:54,508 --> 00:23:56,842 Uh, Jonah, just hang here for a second, would ya? 469 00:23:56,994 --> 00:23:58,978 Laura, hey. 470 00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:04,257 We have to get out of town. - Eric. 471 00:24:04,335 --> 00:24:05,517 - I mean it. 472 00:24:05,594 --> 00:24:08,279 - Okay, how is that going to make any difference? 473 00:24:08,355 --> 00:24:10,764 What is to stop them from finding us wherever we go? 474 00:24:10,841 --> 00:24:13,951 I'm not gonna start living like a fugitive. 475 00:24:14,028 --> 00:24:15,786 That means they win. 476 00:24:15,938 --> 00:24:17,846 - They've already won! 477 00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:19,940 My God, Laura, look at us. 478 00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,775 - This is our home. 479 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,777 This is our community. 480 00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:26,780 - Yeah, and our community hates us, in case you haven't noticed. 481 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,615 They think it's our fault 482 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:31,302 that these yahoos are showing up in droves, 483 00:24:31,378 --> 00:24:33,304 demanding information at City Hall. 484 00:24:33,455 --> 00:24:35,789 - We were just trying to give them answers. 485 00:24:35,866 --> 00:24:37,475 - I'm not saying it's fair. 486 00:24:37,626 --> 00:24:39,793 But this is the reality. 487 00:24:40,646 --> 00:24:43,555 And honestly did you really think we'd stay here forever? 488 00:24:44,208 --> 00:24:46,484 After everything that's happened? 489 00:24:50,472 --> 00:24:53,282 - It's where we've built our lives. 490 00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:56,368 It's where Liam's buried. 491 00:24:57,980 --> 00:25:01,624 What are we supposed to do? Just leave him? 492 00:25:02,317 --> 00:25:04,393 - I'm sorry, honey. 493 00:25:05,229 --> 00:25:09,131 But we have to be smart. We're not safe here. 494 00:25:10,325 --> 00:25:12,009 (inhales shakily) - Okay. 495 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,736 (sniffling) 496 00:25:13,754 --> 00:25:14,920 Okay. 497 00:25:15,072 --> 00:25:16,496 I'll take a leave. 498 00:25:16,574 --> 00:25:17,923 And you, uh, 499 00:25:18,351 --> 00:25:21,744 you call Furman Templeton and see if they have a spot for Jonah and... 500 00:25:21,762 --> 00:25:24,930 and we'll just put the house on the market next week. 501 00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:27,766 I don't... it's gonna take us a while to pack everything. 502 00:25:27,918 --> 00:25:29,735 - We'll figure it out. 503 00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:36,450 - Okay. 504 00:25:37,352 --> 00:25:38,702 Okay. 505 00:25:40,731 --> 00:25:42,623 Jonah. 506 00:26:04,972 --> 00:26:07,106 (beeping) 507 00:26:13,130 --> 00:26:16,073 (dramatic music) 508 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,492 (door creaking) - Oh. 509 00:26:27,645 --> 00:26:29,235 (Jonah): Hey. - Hey. 510 00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:31,814 I didn't know you were home. 511 00:26:31,832 --> 00:26:33,424 Just puttin' stuff away. What's up? 512 00:26:33,575 --> 00:26:36,318 - Sorry, I, I was looking for Mom. 513 00:26:36,837 --> 00:26:39,655 - Your mom, uh... I think she was taking the trash out. 514 00:26:39,657 --> 00:26:42,916 - Yeah, we were, uh... we were gonna go get pancakes at Millie's. 515 00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:44,176 - Oh, yeah? 516 00:26:44,328 --> 00:26:47,146 That's a great idea. - Hey. 517 00:26:48,924 --> 00:26:50,757 Hey, you ready to go? 518 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:52,759 - Yeah. You wanna come? 519 00:26:52,778 --> 00:26:55,613 - Oh, I was thinking maybe just us? 520 00:26:55,764 --> 00:26:57,172 Is that okay? 521 00:26:57,191 --> 00:26:59,491 - Yeah, I ate. You guys go have fun. 522 00:27:07,201 --> 00:27:09,335 (door banging shut) 523 00:27:17,194 --> 00:27:20,787 - Are they gonna arrest her? 524 00:27:20,865 --> 00:27:22,455 Joanna Pierce. 525 00:27:22,475 --> 00:27:24,516 - I don't know. 526 00:27:26,962 --> 00:27:28,812 It's complicated. 527 00:27:28,964 --> 00:27:31,231 - It doesn't really seem fair. 528 00:27:32,485 --> 00:27:36,545 I mean, why are we the ones who have to leave? 529 00:27:36,547 --> 00:27:40,532 We're not the ones telling lies. - I know. 530 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:51,226 Look, I... I know that I haven't been... 531 00:27:51,245 --> 00:27:54,046 me since he died. 532 00:27:56,734 --> 00:28:01,178 Sometimes I'll look at you and I... I'm just I'm so scared. 533 00:28:01,329 --> 00:28:04,473 I'm scared I'm gonna lose you too. 534 00:28:07,261 --> 00:28:10,062 But... I, I'm trying. I really am. 535 00:28:13,083 --> 00:28:16,026 - I know, Mom. 536 00:28:16,862 --> 00:28:20,572 (horn tooting) 537 00:28:33,028 --> 00:28:35,337 (crowd chanting) 538 00:28:37,608 --> 00:28:39,942 - What the hell. - What's going on? 539 00:28:39,944 --> 00:28:41,777 - No more lies! 540 00:28:41,795 --> 00:28:43,278 No more lies! 541 00:28:43,297 --> 00:28:44,947 No more lies! - Wait, that's her. 542 00:28:44,965 --> 00:28:47,449 - Mom. What are you doing? 543 00:28:47,468 --> 00:28:50,877 (crowd chanting): No more lies! No more lies! 544 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:52,730 - Stay in the car. - Mom. 545 00:28:52,806 --> 00:28:53,972 - No more lies! 546 00:28:54,124 --> 00:28:55,624 (Joanna): We want you to be honest. - Mom! 547 00:28:55,626 --> 00:28:57,884 - You can't tear down this building. 548 00:28:57,978 --> 00:28:59,069 (Laura): Stay in the car. 549 00:28:59,221 --> 00:29:01,238 - That's destruction of evidence. 550 00:29:01,431 --> 00:29:04,241 (crowd): No more lies. - No more lies. 551 00:29:04,318 --> 00:29:09,079 - No more lies! No more lies! No more lies! 552 00:29:09,156 --> 00:29:11,473 (Joanna): No more lies. 553 00:29:12,643 --> 00:29:15,085 - Liam wasn't enough for you? - Don't you come at me. 554 00:29:15,162 --> 00:29:16,587 - You had to come after Jonah too? 555 00:29:16,663 --> 00:29:17,829 - She's assaulting me! 556 00:29:18,073 --> 00:29:20,332 - You're sick, you know that? - No, you are sick. 557 00:29:20,484 --> 00:29:22,317 You think you're untouchable, but you know what? 558 00:29:22,336 --> 00:29:23,761 I don't care what they pay you. We will find you. 559 00:29:23,837 --> 00:29:25,411 - You say you care about children? 560 00:29:25,580 --> 00:29:27,747 Stay away from my family, you hear me, or I'll have you arrested. 561 00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:31,101 - You can't hide from the truth. - No more lies! 562 00:29:31,178 --> 00:29:33,011 - No more lies! 563 00:29:33,163 --> 00:29:34,212 No more lies! 564 00:29:34,364 --> 00:29:36,014 - Press charges against that bitch. 565 00:29:36,091 --> 00:29:39,184 - No more lies! No more lies!... 566 00:29:39,261 --> 00:29:42,738 (crowd continues chanting) 567 00:29:51,181 --> 00:29:53,031 - Laura Broder? 568 00:29:53,183 --> 00:29:55,125 (metal door opening) 569 00:29:56,111 --> 00:29:58,086 Come with me. 570 00:30:03,193 --> 00:30:05,210 And I have to give you this. 571 00:30:05,362 --> 00:30:08,288 Ms. Pierce has filed a temporary order of protection. 572 00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:12,534 You must stay at least 500 feet away from her person and place of residence. 573 00:30:12,536 --> 00:30:14,052 You understand? 574 00:30:14,129 --> 00:30:16,730 - Yeah. - You're free to go. 575 00:30:22,637 --> 00:30:23,654 - C'mon. 576 00:30:24,882 --> 00:30:27,473 - Is it fair to say that Ms. Pierce was afraid of you? 577 00:30:27,551 --> 00:30:30,661 After you physically assaulted her? 578 00:30:31,388 --> 00:30:33,738 - I can't know what was going through her mind. 579 00:30:33,891 --> 00:30:38,151 - But you understood the terms of the restraining order, yes? 580 00:30:38,245 --> 00:30:41,046 They were fully explained to you? 581 00:30:43,917 --> 00:30:47,344 Ms. Broder? - Yes, I understood. 582 00:30:47,462 --> 00:30:50,739 - And yet three weeks later, you showed up at her property. 583 00:30:50,741 --> 00:30:53,575 - And I take full responsibility for that. It was stupid. 584 00:30:53,577 --> 00:30:58,263 It was reckless. But I... I never intended to harm Ms. Pierce. 585 00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:01,099 - You can see why that's hard to believe. 586 00:31:01,251 --> 00:31:03,569 Given you brought a gun? 587 00:31:10,018 --> 00:31:12,293 - What is this? 588 00:31:13,188 --> 00:31:18,542 The State of Illinois says your application for a firearms license is approved? 589 00:31:21,881 --> 00:31:24,047 Is this for real? 590 00:31:27,202 --> 00:31:29,553 - - It's locked up, okay? It's safe. 591 00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:31,704 - You've already bought it? 592 00:31:31,782 --> 00:31:33,965 - Listen to me, the cop... - How could you do that? 593 00:31:34,118 --> 00:31:36,042 - Okay, look, just calm down. - Without even consulting me? 594 00:31:36,061 --> 00:31:38,970 - It's locked up okay? Listen to me. - You went behind my back. 595 00:31:39,047 --> 00:31:42,048 After everything I've been doing to stop the proliferation of guns. 596 00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:44,309 - We've been threatened, Laura. Okay? 597 00:31:44,461 --> 00:31:47,053 And our principles aren't gonna keep us safe 598 00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:48,906 when one of them shows up at our doorstep. 599 00:31:49,057 --> 00:31:50,890 - Safe? Are you kidding me? 600 00:31:50,968 --> 00:31:52,558 This is what killed our son. 601 00:31:52,636 --> 00:31:54,894 And you think hiding a loaded weapon in our home 602 00:31:54,914 --> 00:31:56,655 without... without even telling me. 603 00:31:56,898 --> 00:31:59,658 - This isn't our home! We had to leave our home because you wouldn't listen. 604 00:31:59,734 --> 00:32:02,994 I told you, talking to those freaks was a mistake. 605 00:32:03,071 --> 00:32:06,314 I told you that we should get out of town the minute they found our address. 606 00:32:06,316 --> 00:32:07,758 - Yes and we're leaving. - Yeah. 607 00:32:07,985 --> 00:32:10,335 After Jonah got assaulted, which should never have happened! 608 00:32:10,412 --> 00:32:11,670 - Oh, that's my fault too? 609 00:32:11,764 --> 00:32:14,172 - Now, just when I think you're listening to reason, 610 00:32:14,324 --> 00:32:15,507 you go and attack this woman 611 00:32:15,659 --> 00:32:18,160 and put a... a bigger target on us, and for what? 612 00:32:18,162 --> 00:32:19,494 This endless crusade! 613 00:32:19,496 --> 00:32:22,922 - How about for Liam? - This is not about Liam. 614 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,182 It's not. 615 00:32:24,334 --> 00:32:26,735 It's about you needing an enemy. 616 00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:31,022 - I've made mistakes, Eric, 617 00:32:31,175 --> 00:32:33,599 but I would never go behind your back. 618 00:32:33,677 --> 00:32:38,196 You wanna pack up the car and leave tonight? Fine. 619 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,457 But we are getting rid of that gun. 620 00:32:40,534 --> 00:32:42,417 Do you hear me? 621 00:32:43,203 --> 00:32:45,462 Tell me where it is. 622 00:32:50,377 --> 00:32:51,784 - I locked it. 623 00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:53,378 I know I did. 624 00:32:53,455 --> 00:32:54,787 Jonah? 625 00:32:54,807 --> 00:32:56,598 Jonah? 626 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:00,885 He's gone. His window's open. 627 00:33:01,038 --> 00:33:03,397 Why would he take that? 628 00:33:04,466 --> 00:33:07,300 - Her address. - What are you doing? 629 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,736 - The restraining order. It was here. 630 00:33:11,156 --> 00:33:15,033 (phone buzzing) 631 00:33:22,835 --> 00:33:24,409 (line ringing) - Hello? 632 00:33:24,486 --> 00:33:27,428 - Jonah? Oh, my God. Where are you? 633 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:29,322 - Uh. - Listen to me. 634 00:33:29,399 --> 00:33:31,750 Whatever you're doing, you need to stop. 635 00:33:31,902 --> 00:33:34,011 - That's okay. It's fine. 636 00:33:34,087 --> 00:33:36,254 I'll... I'll eat when I get home. 637 00:33:36,331 --> 00:33:39,349 - What? Jonah, talk to me. 638 00:33:39,542 --> 00:33:41,092 Talk to me. 639 00:33:41,245 --> 00:33:42,853 What are you doing? 640 00:33:42,929 --> 00:33:45,247 - I love you. - Jonah! 641 00:33:45,249 --> 00:33:49,860 - I brought the gun for protection but I never intended to use it. 642 00:33:49,936 --> 00:33:52,771 I just wanted to talk to her. 643 00:33:52,923 --> 00:33:56,033 I, I wanted all of this to stop. 644 00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:04,458 (music coming from inside the house) 645 00:34:19,783 --> 00:34:22,650 (Joanna singing) 646 00:34:22,652 --> 00:34:26,688 (dog whimpering) - Oh, will you stop your whining. 647 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,358 (singing continues) 648 00:34:44,249 --> 00:34:47,976 (dog whimpering and yelping) 649 00:34:47,994 --> 00:34:50,378 - Shh. Shh. 650 00:34:50,923 --> 00:34:52,905 (music stops) 651 00:34:52,999 --> 00:34:54,983 Here baby. 652 00:34:55,001 --> 00:34:56,484 Here you go. 653 00:34:56,486 --> 00:34:59,387 (dog barking) 654 00:35:17,098 --> 00:35:20,117 (yelping and barking) 655 00:35:28,352 --> 00:35:31,419 (dog continues barking) 656 00:35:32,356 --> 00:35:35,948 Ah! Oh! Oh, my God. 657 00:35:35,968 --> 00:35:40,971 Oh, my God, you're... you're the Broder kid. 658 00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:45,183 What are you doing here, honey? 659 00:35:45,793 --> 00:35:47,727 What's going on? 660 00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:50,889 Are they hurting you? 661 00:35:51,708 --> 00:35:54,734 You can tell me. You can tell me the truth. 662 00:35:56,062 --> 00:35:58,363 I can help you. 663 00:36:02,052 --> 00:36:04,161 (dog barking) 664 00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:08,498 (gunshot) 665 00:36:11,486 --> 00:36:13,395 - One last question, Professor. 666 00:36:13,413 --> 00:36:17,507 You placed a call to your son, Jonah, at 6:49 pm. 667 00:36:17,734 --> 00:36:21,236 Less than an hour before you showed up at the victim's home. 668 00:36:21,254 --> 00:36:24,472 What did you two discuss? 669 00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:29,835 - I don't think he answered. 670 00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:31,730 - He did actually. 671 00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:37,085 The phone call lasted 38 seconds. 672 00:36:37,103 --> 00:36:39,362 - Objection, Your Honor. Relevance? 673 00:36:39,439 --> 00:36:42,991 - Goes to the defendant's state of mind. 674 00:36:45,095 --> 00:36:46,995 (Laura): Jonah? 675 00:36:48,098 --> 00:36:49,706 Jonah? 676 00:36:49,783 --> 00:36:51,666 (Eric): Jonah? 677 00:36:54,379 --> 00:36:56,087 - Jonah... 678 00:36:56,957 --> 00:36:59,049 ...give me the gun. 679 00:37:02,796 --> 00:37:04,429 - Hey. 680 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,114 You okay? 681 00:37:06,132 --> 00:37:07,465 What happened? 682 00:37:07,617 --> 00:37:10,602 - You need to get him out of here. 683 00:37:12,064 --> 00:37:14,147 - What are you doing? 684 00:37:15,234 --> 00:37:18,485 What are you doing? (dialing) 685 00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:22,239 - 911, what's your emergency? 686 00:37:22,315 --> 00:37:25,575 - I need an ambulance. I just shot someone. 687 00:37:29,473 --> 00:37:32,040 - You did great. You stayed calm. You were vulnerable. 688 00:37:32,642 --> 00:37:34,084 - So what now? 689 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,828 - Well, there's one wrinkle. 690 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:42,241 The ADA's filed a motion to subpoena Jonah as a rebuttal witness. 691 00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:43,668 - What? 692 00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:45,153 Why? 693 00:37:45,171 --> 00:37:47,505 - They claim it's about the mystery phone call, 694 00:37:47,657 --> 00:37:49,766 but frankly I think they're desperate. 695 00:37:49,917 --> 00:37:52,343 Grilling a traumatized 14-year-old? 696 00:37:52,496 --> 00:37:53,603 Not a good look. 697 00:37:53,755 --> 00:37:55,105 - Jonah can't take the stand. 698 00:37:55,181 --> 00:37:57,423 I mean he can't testify. I told you that. 699 00:37:57,501 --> 00:37:59,109 I'm not gonna put him through that. 700 00:37:59,185 --> 00:38:01,427 Can't you block the motion? - I tried. 701 00:38:01,505 --> 00:38:02,762 The judge shot me down. 702 00:38:02,839 --> 00:38:05,115 Listen, I think it's a good sign. 703 00:38:05,266 --> 00:38:07,175 It means they know they're losing. 704 00:38:07,193 --> 00:38:08,768 Otherwise why risk it? 705 00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:12,497 - Is Murder 3 still on the table? 706 00:38:13,608 --> 00:38:15,033 - This is going well. 707 00:38:15,185 --> 00:38:16,942 There's no sign of forced entry. 708 00:38:16,962 --> 00:38:18,353 Joanna was armed. 709 00:38:18,446 --> 00:38:21,631 They can't prove you weren't acting in self-defense. 710 00:38:22,692 --> 00:38:24,784 - Can you give us a minute? 711 00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:26,761 Meredith, please? 712 00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:30,623 (door opening, closing) 713 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,868 Jonah can't take the stand. - What choice do we have? 714 00:38:33,887 --> 00:38:35,370 - I can take the plea. 715 00:38:35,372 --> 00:38:37,372 - You heard what she just said, right? 716 00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:39,316 There's a good chance that we could walk away from this. 717 00:38:39,467 --> 00:38:42,819 - No, not if he goes up there. What if he says something? 718 00:38:42,896 --> 00:38:44,470 - Lo, if you plead guilty, 719 00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:46,714 that's a minimum sentence of 15 years. 720 00:38:46,716 --> 00:38:49,050 How's Jonah supposed to live with that? 721 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,828 The lie is eating away at him already. 722 00:38:52,055 --> 00:38:53,479 - It's not a lie. 723 00:38:54,891 --> 00:38:57,983 It might have been his finger on the trigger, but I'm the reason he was there. 724 00:38:58,003 --> 00:38:59,336 You know that. 725 00:38:59,412 --> 00:39:01,671 You know that as well as I do. 726 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,133 (sighs) 727 00:39:09,906 --> 00:39:11,089 (Eric sniffles) 728 00:39:11,165 --> 00:39:13,266 You were right. 729 00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:17,354 I needed an enemy. I needed a fight. 730 00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:21,691 Because without that, there was just this... 731 00:39:23,103 --> 00:39:25,653 ...giant gaping hole. 732 00:39:28,091 --> 00:39:30,658 I brought us here. I did that. 733 00:39:32,186 --> 00:39:36,122 And I am not going to let him pay for that. 734 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:43,046 We can't lose him too. 735 00:39:45,625 --> 00:39:47,942 (crying softly) - Oh, God. 736 00:39:47,944 --> 00:39:49,627 - Look at me. 737 00:39:49,779 --> 00:39:52,037 Look at me. Look at me. 738 00:39:52,115 --> 00:39:54,057 Look at me. 739 00:39:55,135 --> 00:39:57,143 Let me do this. 740 00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,729 It's what I want. 741 00:40:02,049 --> 00:40:03,975 You take Jonah 742 00:40:04,127 --> 00:40:07,629 somewhere that you both can heal. 743 00:40:07,647 --> 00:40:09,555 - I can't. - Yeah, you can. 744 00:40:09,633 --> 00:40:13,484 You'll be alright and he'll get through it, he will. 745 00:40:13,561 --> 00:40:15,662 And I'll be okay. 746 00:40:16,973 --> 00:40:18,456 Really. 747 00:40:19,901 --> 00:40:22,143 Good behavior, parole... 748 00:40:22,162 --> 00:40:24,421 it's not so long. 749 00:40:26,983 --> 00:40:29,759 Turtles live 150 years. 750 00:40:46,278 --> 00:40:49,070 - Will the defendant please rise? 751 00:40:51,432 --> 00:40:53,432 Mrs. Broder, 752 00:40:53,434 --> 00:40:56,344 you understand by entering this guilty plea 753 00:40:56,346 --> 00:40:58,771 you waive your right to any future appeal? 754 00:40:58,848 --> 00:41:00,531 - I understand, Your Honor. 755 00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:05,587 - Before the court accepts your plea, is there anything you'd like to say? 756 00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:14,804 - When my son Liam was five years old, 757 00:41:14,881 --> 00:41:19,200 he asked me once, we were brushing his teeth and he asked, 758 00:41:19,293 --> 00:41:22,553 "How do we know we're not puppets? 759 00:41:22,706 --> 00:41:25,565 With someone else controlling the strings? 760 00:41:26,726 --> 00:41:29,652 How do we know we are real?" 761 00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:35,533 If I could do it again... (voice breaks) 762 00:41:36,978 --> 00:41:39,311 ....I would say to him, 763 00:41:40,332 --> 00:41:44,501 "Maybe we don't know. Maybe we never can." 764 00:41:46,062 --> 00:41:49,672 But I think maybe we're real 765 00:41:50,491 --> 00:41:54,344 not because of what we know, but because of who we love. 766 00:41:58,850 --> 00:42:00,499 (trembling breath) 767 00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:08,107 To Ms. Pierce's family and loved ones, I am so deeply sorry. 768 00:42:11,104 --> 00:42:13,196 And to my own family, 769 00:42:13,347 --> 00:42:16,449 please know how much I love you. 770 00:42:19,037 --> 00:42:21,162 And it's okay. 771 00:42:29,956 --> 00:42:32,090 (sobbing) Thank you. 772 00:42:32,792 --> 00:42:34,384 - Mrs. Broder, 773 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:38,629 the court formally accepts your plea of guilty 774 00:42:38,782 --> 00:42:40,631 to murder in the third degree. 775 00:42:40,784 --> 00:42:44,118 The defendant will be remanded to custody pending sentencing. 776 00:42:44,211 --> 00:42:46,646 We are now adjourned. 777 00:42:53,813 --> 00:42:55,655 - It's okay. 778 00:43:13,666 --> 00:43:16,718 (crying)