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[birds chirping]

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[cow mowing]

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[indistinct chatter]

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[Chappelle]
I'mma "Happy Gilmore" this one.

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Badass practicing.

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Think I'm gonna kill a guy or something.

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[David] That's about 300 yards.

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[Chappelle]
I need a stunt double for this.

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Nice, Dave.

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There it is.

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You really can do it left-handed.

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[David] Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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[Chappelle] That's amazing.
Are you, like, ambidextrous?

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I'm Presbyterian.

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[chuckles]

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[theme music playing]

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[indistinct chatter]

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[David] I'm so happy to be here.

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Uh, I've been working
on this man for a long, long time.

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And the more I know about him,
the more I want to be this guy.

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I want to bring out here someone you know.

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And if you know him, you love him.

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The true master of his craft,

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David Chappelle, ladies and gentlemen.

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[clapping, cheering]

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Hi! Ohh!

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How are you, bro?

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-Great to see you.
-I'm great. Good to see you. Thank you.

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Thank you very much for coming out here.

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Oh, I stacked the deck tonight.

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That's all right.
Listen, um, this is a big thrill for me

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because I have educated myself
a great deal about you and your life.

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And it's nothing but respect

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that I have generated for you.

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And I'm thrilled to be here tonight.

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And, do you know what else?

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-I'll let you talk in a minute.
-That's all right.

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Twenty-seven years ago,
almost 27 years ago,

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we met for the first time.

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-On your show.
-On my show.

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Yes, and ironically,

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the first time
I was supposed to do your show,

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I didn't have a suit.

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I wore jeans and a t-shirt.

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So, I got bumped.

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Really? There was a dress code?

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Yeah,
but that's why I got a suit on tonight.

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I said, I'll never sit
in front of David Letterman again.

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[David laughs]

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-You ain't get bumped from this--
-Yeah, I ain't getting--

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[audience clapping]

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What was your life 27 years ago?

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I must have been around 19.

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I had been out of high school
for a year and a half.

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I was living in New York City.

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Being on your show,
at that time, was the pinnacle

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for a comedian.
If you had a Letterman set,

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there was nothing bigger.

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Hm.

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And I got one.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
to the program, Dave Chappelle. Dave!

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[audience cheering, clapping]

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[upbeat music playing]

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Do you remember
how your set went that night?

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Good enough.

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[chuckles]

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I pay close attention
to all this little racial history.

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There's stuff in New York
you guys should see.

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Like, in Washington Square Park,
this is interesting.

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They have two big trees where they used
to hang criminals back in the old days,

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but they would actually hang white people

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and Black people

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on different trees.

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[audience laughing]

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Like that's going to hurt our feelings,
you know?

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Television's a different animal.

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I still consider myself, like,
a real nightclub comedian.

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Now, I'm a nightclub comic
that does the trick

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on television but the atmosphere,

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that thing that I developed myself in,

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was a lot more forgiving

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than what television was and is.

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I'm, like, 100 years old.

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So, when I started out doing comedy,

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it was-- You had to have a hunk,

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five minutes to get on The Tonight Show.
And now,

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it's completely different.

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Everybody has a deal for hour specials.

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First of all, the idea
of assembling that kind of material,

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I find crushing.

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But you are so prolific.

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How many hours do you have now

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on platforms on this planet?

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I know when I quit my show,
Chappelle's Show,

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I went to San Francisco a lot.
The Bay Area.

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And I recorded all of my sets.
Audio recorded them.

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Literally, probably,
hundreds of hours of tapes.

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Some of that stuff made its way
into the work that I'm doing now, but…

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somehow, I had the foresight
to know that was a special time

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in my artistic development,

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and I have a record of it.

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Mm-hm.

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At that time,
I had thought that I ruined my career.

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When you left the TV show?

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Yeah, I had never seen it work out
before like that.

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Because you get out of the line,
it may be,

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"Too bad.
We've got other people ahead of you."

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-That's the end of it.
-Yeah.

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And I think when the specter
of making it left the room,

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and I was just doing it,
literally, just for my livelihood,

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and 'cause I loved doing it,
it made me a better comedian.

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It made me a more courageous comedian.

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And, uh, the worst thing
that can happen to you in your mind,

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when you're working at it,
is that you lose it all or blow it,

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but once you face that,
it's not everything.

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You know, I'm so excited
about several ideas here tonight.

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One of which is you leaving the show.

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[chuckles] You know this

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because there is a historical video
and print documentary

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of you going from outlet to outlet

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to outlet to outlet,
answering the question,

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"What's the matter with you?
You left a huge-- What is the deal?"

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They would fill in the blanks for you

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because they were so desperate.

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And the longer I ruminated on this,

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the better this thing sounded
to me because,

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what bigger, cool,
badass thing to do than just say,

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"Goodnight, everybody!"

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And then, adios.

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I mean, how cool is that?

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Well, initially, it was terrible.

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Yeah.

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[laughing]

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Were you scared?
You must've been scared crazy.

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Of course. I was terrified.

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And there were legal issues
around departing a show like that.

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And clearly, I didn't have the money
that I thought I might need

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to get through a decision like that.

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So, in the beginning,
it was like anything.

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You've got to face a lot of your fears.

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Some I faced better than others,
but I was determined,

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you know what I mean?

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I didn't want
to make a choice like that and then…

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and then just be a parable
of what not to do.

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[David] Sure.

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So, I just had to figure out--

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But, from this perspective,
don't you look back on it and think,

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"Kinda cool"?

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Oh my God, yeah.
Now, David Letterman is in Ohio and…

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you know, shit worked out.

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[laughing]

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But before it worked out,
it was-- It was really scary, man.

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I don't know what you think happens
when you quit a successful show.

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I'll tell you what doesn't happen.

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They don't go,
"Good luck with your future endeavors."

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[audience laughing]

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That's not what happens.

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It was cold out there.

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I kept reading over and over again,
when you left your show,

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there was an episode described,
and it was never elucidated,

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that somebody on the crew, uh, laughed

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at a sketch you did.

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And you thought the laughter was
on the wrong side of the humor.

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Do you recall what that was?

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Oh, yeah, I remember.

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It just raised
an interesting question to me,

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which I was already wrestling with
in the first place.

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You know, Dave,
I-- I like to go hard in the paint.

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At that time, especially in my career,

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I always felt
it could end at any minute,

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so I err on the side of excess.

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There's instances where you go too far.
You're playing with powerful shit,

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doing jokes about racism,
and this -ism and that -ism.

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To me, I looked at it
as an occupational hazard,

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but I also realized, like,

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that I was bigger
than I was comfortable with.

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I didn't trust the circumstances of the--

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being that big or whatever.

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Do you remember
what the person was laughing at

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that you felt-- You diagnosed as being,
"Oh, this is wrong."

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Yeah, but more vividly, I just remember…

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the feeling. The way it made me feel.

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Is there something about the episode
you don't wanna talk about?

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It was so bad. I fucking quit the show.

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It wasn't the only reason I quit,

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but it-- it--
It definitely helped make the case.

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-Like, I don't need this.
-Mm-hm.

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-I just don't need to worry about this.
-Yeah.

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I was-- I was--
And I'll leave it alone after this.

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No, you're fine.

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I was just curious as to what
the material-- that material had been.

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Uh… [sighs]

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The sketch wasn't that bad.

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It's actually funny.

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It was-- It was a pixie.

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It was me dressed in blackface

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who'd pop up
anytime a person felt the pains of racism.

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Which is a tough trick to pull off.

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See? It's not a bad sketch,
but hearing the wrong laugh

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while you're dressed that way,

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it makes you feel shame.

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-And that's why.
-Fair enough. Yeah.

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By the way,
I have very big balls to talk about this.

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[laughing, clapping]

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Well, what about me?

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-I asked the question.
-[laughing]

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[cheering, clapping]

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[both chuckling]

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The best part about quitting the show
was coming back here.

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This is when I started to fully realize
the value of being part of a community.

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People come from the media
or other places looking for me

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or this, that, or the other.
People here were very protective of me.

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They didn't look at me
as a celebrity that took a spill.

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I was more like the guy up the street.

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And having that will help you survive--

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You said, "Took a spill,"
but you didn't really take a spill.

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If the show had been canceled,
that's a spill.

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If Evel Knievel tried to jump 12 cars
but didn't make it, that's a spill.

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I feel like the attempts at these jokes,

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that's like Evel Knievel tricks.

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I hope to land them, but…

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[David] Yeah, but let me just say,

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you could line up every sketch show
in production today.

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And, you know, they're fine.

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But to watch you,

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as a person sharing your thoughts
and your writing, far more compelling.

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Oh, wow.

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Whatever that played into the decision,
and I know it did play into the decision,

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you're so much better off,

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which is not to say,
"Go do a sketch show if you want."

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-I'm very happy that I did what I did.
-Yeah.

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You know, in hindsight.

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It was the biggest thing
that's happened in your life so far,

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other than the birth of your kids.

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It was a very, very, very formative event

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or a sequence of events.
There wasn't any one part of it.

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But if I had finished the show

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feeling the way that I felt,
I would never have been the same.

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Tell me, where are we, by the way?

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-Oh, here? Right now?
-Yeah. [chuckles]

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[laughing]

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We are on the outskirts
of lovely Yellow Springs, Ohio.

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There you go.

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[clapping, cheering]

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[upbeat hip-hop music playing]

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[David] Yellow Springs.

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-This is the best!
-Very nice.

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00:11:22,181 --> 00:11:24,141
This place hasn't changed in 100 years.

249
00:11:24,225 --> 00:11:27,555
[David] This has gotta be different
than when you were here as a kid, right?

250
00:11:27,645 --> 00:11:30,515
-Aesthetically, almost identical.
-You're kidding me.

251
00:11:30,606 --> 00:11:33,776
I remember going here, getting groceries,
walking here with my dad.

252
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,990
That place was a diner
by a different name.

253
00:11:37,071 --> 00:11:39,281
That place was a bank by a different name.

254
00:11:39,365 --> 00:11:43,535
And right across this Christmas tree field
is a lovely establishment

255
00:11:44,036 --> 00:11:45,286
called Young's Dairy.

256
00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:47,081
Yeah, we saw that coming in.

257
00:11:47,164 --> 00:11:49,214
We also saw Antioch College.

258
00:11:49,291 --> 00:11:52,881
Antioch College. Antioch College
was a cultural juggernaut here,

259
00:11:52,962 --> 00:11:54,672
especially during the '60s.

260
00:11:54,755 --> 00:11:57,125
It's the alma mater of people
like Coretta Scott King.

261
00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:00,050
John Lithgow's father
was a professor there.

262
00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:02,176
John Lithgow,
the famous actor, grew up here.

263
00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:04,643
Your family has connections to Antioch?

264
00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:08,894
My father used to be a teacher there,
and I think he was an administrator there.

265
00:12:08,978 --> 00:12:09,898
You grew up here?

266
00:12:09,979 --> 00:12:11,809
In part. My parents were divorced.

267
00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:13,517
[David] You were born in DC.

268
00:12:13,607 --> 00:12:16,107
I lived in DC many years,
but my father lived here.

269
00:12:16,193 --> 00:12:20,743
So, since '76, Christmas vacations.
I went to middle school here.

270
00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:25,373
So what has been the constant
that keeps this place constant?

271
00:12:25,453 --> 00:12:28,913
Well, I think the charm
of small-town life is…

272
00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,250
your days are more predictable.
The faces are more familiar.

273
00:12:34,044 --> 00:12:36,514
People know my name. I know their names.

274
00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:39,009
When you're famous, everyone knows you.
You don't know anybody.

275
00:12:39,091 --> 00:12:42,181
-But here, everyone's famous.
-This isn't typical small-town.

276
00:12:42,261 --> 00:12:45,511
-[Chappelle] We're about that life.
-[David] It's not just brand-new stuff.

277
00:12:45,598 --> 00:12:47,098
This goes way back with the town.

278
00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:50,023
-[Chappelle] Oh my gosh, yeah.
-[David] This awareness. This activism.

279
00:12:50,102 --> 00:12:52,352
In reading a little bit
about Yellow Springs,

280
00:12:52,438 --> 00:12:55,688
there is a unique association
with this community

281
00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,145
and slavery.

282
00:12:57,234 --> 00:13:00,574
The relationship was not straightforward,

283
00:13:00,654 --> 00:13:03,494
but yet, it was there.
And it seemed to be viable

284
00:13:03,574 --> 00:13:06,954
in helping men and women leave slavery.

285
00:13:07,036 --> 00:13:10,366
Do you know a little bit about
that in the history of this city?

286
00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:14,286
Sure. Ohio was an abolitionist state.

287
00:13:14,376 --> 00:13:18,376
So, slavery was never legal here
in the state of Ohio.

288
00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:20,474
However, we didn't have suffrage either.

289
00:13:20,549 --> 00:13:22,259
So, freedom was illegal,

290
00:13:22,343 --> 00:13:24,893
and slavery was illegal for Black people.

291
00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:26,470
The Ohio River was the line.

292
00:13:26,555 --> 00:13:28,715
Over in Kentucky, they were slaving away.

293
00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:33,018
You know, a lot of people here
were Quakers and Mennonites

294
00:13:33,103 --> 00:13:35,773
and stuff like that,
but they were opposed to slavery.

295
00:13:35,856 --> 00:13:38,436
And this town became an abolitionist town.

296
00:13:38,526 --> 00:13:41,066
Some of the older houses, they say,
have passages in them

297
00:13:41,153 --> 00:13:44,533
where slaves used to hide.
So, it's a big part of our local history.

298
00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:47,025
This year, because of COVID,
it didn't happen,

299
00:13:47,117 --> 00:13:49,197
but traditionally, on the Fourth of July,

300
00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:52,667
we go to a place
to watch the fireworks called Gaunt Park.

301
00:13:53,249 --> 00:13:55,209
Gaunt Park was donated to this town

302
00:13:55,292 --> 00:13:57,712
by an African-American
named Wheeling Gaunt,

303
00:13:57,795 --> 00:13:59,335
who was a slave,

304
00:13:59,421 --> 00:14:03,381
whose "master" would allow him
to hire his own time out.

305
00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:05,587
So, when he was done
working in the fields,

306
00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:07,678
he would go work for another plantation,

307
00:14:07,763 --> 00:14:08,723
and they'd pay him.

308
00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:10,926
Eventually,
he was able to buy his freedom.

309
00:14:11,433 --> 00:14:14,443
Well, his entire family's freedom.
I think some five people.

310
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,150
He became a landowner here.

311
00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:19,480
He was very instrumental in the historical
Black university, Wilberforce.

312
00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:20,937
It's up the street.

313
00:14:21,026 --> 00:14:25,356
And when he died, he donated the park
to the Village of Yellow Springs.

314
00:14:25,447 --> 00:14:27,577
It's one of my favorite parts of the town.

315
00:14:27,658 --> 00:14:30,868
On the Fourth of July,
all these white folks come from everywhere

316
00:14:30,953 --> 00:14:33,543
because we have
the best fireworks in the region.

317
00:14:33,622 --> 00:14:36,792
And they sit on a plot of land
that was donated by a Black man,

318
00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:38,956
that was forced to buy his own freedom,

319
00:14:39,044 --> 00:14:41,884
and celebrate the promise
of what the country can be.

320
00:14:41,964 --> 00:14:44,434
This is one
of the beautiful ironies of this town.

321
00:14:44,508 --> 00:14:47,298
In fact, I think every month,
or definitely every year,

322
00:14:47,386 --> 00:14:50,136
all the widows in town,
because of his trust,

323
00:14:50,222 --> 00:14:52,732
get a pound of sugar and a pound of flour.

324
00:14:52,808 --> 00:14:54,768
To this day, my father's widow gets it.

325
00:14:55,686 --> 00:14:56,846
That's remarkable.

326
00:14:58,606 --> 00:15:02,606
My dad and some
of his friends started a thing here

327
00:15:02,693 --> 00:15:04,823
called an African-American Culture Week.

328
00:15:05,821 --> 00:15:09,701
Just something that would celebrate
Black Culture in small-town Ohio.

329
00:15:09,783 --> 00:15:12,163
I had performed at the first one.
I bombed.

330
00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:13,204
You bombed.

331
00:15:13,287 --> 00:15:16,247
I bombed, you know.
It was like doing a gig for my dad.

332
00:15:16,332 --> 00:15:20,292
But it was just a week
of speakers and performers.

333
00:15:20,377 --> 00:15:22,547
Does that continue today?
Some version of that?

334
00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:26,220
Yeah. The things
that I do are kind of in that tradition.

335
00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:27,130
Yeah.

336
00:15:27,217 --> 00:15:30,347
We do a party here at my neighbor's barn
called The Juke Joint.

337
00:15:30,429 --> 00:15:31,259
Mm-hm.

338
00:15:31,347 --> 00:15:35,387
Big artists from over the world will fly
here and perform in this little barn.

339
00:15:35,476 --> 00:15:36,766
How great is that?

340
00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:38,272
It's really wonderful.

341
00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:40,654
And my dad raised me that way.

342
00:15:40,731 --> 00:15:43,611
All politics are local,
community is everything,

343
00:15:43,692 --> 00:15:44,902
these kinds of things.

344
00:15:44,985 --> 00:15:47,905
You can't change the world,
but you can make a corner of it nice.

345
00:15:47,988 --> 00:15:50,988
-[David] Yeah.
-These types of ethics, and I live by it.

346
00:15:51,575 --> 00:15:52,985
I see a rainbow flag here.

347
00:15:53,077 --> 00:15:54,537
Oh, yeah. Gays are welcome.

348
00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:57,870
All the letters of the alphabet
are welcome in Yellow Springs.

349
00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:00,497
We want to make
everyone feel safe and comfortable.

350
00:16:00,584 --> 00:16:03,804
There's a banner when you pull into town.
It says, "Kindness,"

351
00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:06,129
which is kind of the local motto.

352
00:16:07,716 --> 00:16:10,506
I always liked this place.
One of the things I liked about it,

353
00:16:10,594 --> 00:16:14,064
historically, it has always been,
like, radically liberal.

354
00:16:14,765 --> 00:16:17,975
For lack of a better term,
this is the Bernie Sanders island

355
00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:18,980
in the Trump sea.

356
00:16:19,061 --> 00:16:20,271
[audience laughing]

357
00:16:20,354 --> 00:16:24,114
And the thing
that I like most about this place,

358
00:16:24,191 --> 00:16:26,491
was just that longing for community.

359
00:16:26,568 --> 00:16:28,948
I recognize everyone's faces.

360
00:16:29,029 --> 00:16:30,239
They know my kids.

361
00:16:30,322 --> 00:16:32,742
And fame evaporates with regularity.

362
00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,655
Once they get used to you--
You think people are here to see me.

363
00:16:35,744 --> 00:16:36,624
They know me.

364
00:16:36,704 --> 00:16:38,004
They're here to see you.

365
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,870
[audience laughing]

366
00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:41,077
[chuckles]

367
00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:43,206
It's a warm place to live,
you know what I mean?

368
00:16:43,293 --> 00:16:46,213
-Did you find that when you were a kid?
-Oh, very much so.

369
00:16:46,296 --> 00:16:48,166
In fact, I took it for granted

370
00:16:48,257 --> 00:16:50,467
how safe I was allowed to feel here.

371
00:16:50,551 --> 00:16:53,511
But there were people
in the community that taught me things

372
00:16:53,595 --> 00:16:57,215
and looked after me in ways I didn't know
to appreciate until I was much older.

373
00:16:57,307 --> 00:16:58,307
How old are your kids now?

374
00:16:58,392 --> 00:17:01,192
[Chappelle]
My oldest is 19. He'll be 20 in October.

375
00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:02,270
[David] How's that going?

376
00:17:02,354 --> 00:17:04,444
Man, that kid's the shit. He's the best.

377
00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:06,653
He's the best, man. I love him.

378
00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:08,534
[clapping, cheering]

379
00:17:08,610 --> 00:17:11,910
The new models are better
than the old models, you know?

380
00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:14,319
The way they, uh, think is inspiring.

381
00:17:15,159 --> 00:17:18,039
He's much more courageous
than I ever was at his age,

382
00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,910
which you think is ironic,
but it's true socially.

383
00:17:21,415 --> 00:17:26,205
Just the way he can already decide
real critical things about who he is

384
00:17:26,295 --> 00:17:27,755
or who he wants to be.

385
00:17:27,838 --> 00:17:30,218
The type of honesty
and discernment these kids have

386
00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:32,929
'cause they're bombarded with information.

387
00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:35,100
It's hard to bullshit a kid nowadays.

388
00:17:35,179 --> 00:17:36,349
[chuckles]

389
00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:37,680
Tell me about the others.

390
00:17:37,765 --> 00:17:40,555
His brother, Ibrahim,
he's my star athlete.

391
00:17:40,642 --> 00:17:41,692
He's a funny kid.

392
00:17:41,769 --> 00:17:45,649
As a matter of fact, of all my kids,
he's the only that's ever tried stand-up.

393
00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:48,321
Tried it once
at The Comedy Cellar and nailed it.

394
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,110
-It was really funny.
-Really good.

395
00:17:50,194 --> 00:17:51,454
Yeah. It was so brave.

396
00:17:51,528 --> 00:17:54,108
Has that opened a door for him,
or is that enough?

397
00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:55,868
He never bothered me about it again.

398
00:17:55,949 --> 00:17:58,079
I think it was just shit
he wanted to get off his chest.

399
00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,540
-Yeah.
-[audience laughing]

400
00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:03,871
But I just love that he… looked at it,

401
00:18:03,957 --> 00:18:05,457
thought it was beautiful

402
00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:07,752
and touched it and did well.

403
00:18:07,836 --> 00:18:11,256
-And then, there's a third.
-My daughter. My twin.

404
00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:12,420
[audience laughing]

405
00:18:12,508 --> 00:18:15,298
She's the adorable little girl
that I could have been.

406
00:18:15,385 --> 00:18:16,385
[audience chuckling]

407
00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:17,350
[laughs]

408
00:18:17,429 --> 00:18:19,349
-That's very sweet.
-[chuckles] Yeah.

409
00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:23,391
My wife, when my kids were small,
did the heavy lifting.

410
00:18:23,477 --> 00:18:25,397
I was writing the show. I was working.

411
00:18:25,479 --> 00:18:27,309
How does the phrase go? Uh…

412
00:18:27,397 --> 00:18:30,777
Mother is the word for God
in the hearts and lips of children.

413
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:32,860
She was everything for them.

414
00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:35,605
All I did, and it's not nothing…

415
00:18:35,697 --> 00:18:36,617
[laughing]

416
00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:41,326
is I just kept reinforcing
in my children's mind,

417
00:18:41,411 --> 00:18:44,331
"I'm the coolest motherfucker
you will ever meet."

418
00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:45,334
[laughing]

419
00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:46,788
[clapping]

420
00:18:46,875 --> 00:18:49,495
-[chuckles] Well…
-No, it was a long game because--

421
00:18:49,586 --> 00:18:53,006
"Kids, Daddy has something
he'd like to tell you." [chuckles]

422
00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:56,890
I used to tell them all kinds
of crazy shit about how cool I am.

423
00:18:57,386 --> 00:19:01,716
And also, that they can trust me. I didn't
look at myself as an authority figure.

424
00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:03,887
I looked at myself like a reference book.

425
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:07,476
If you ask the right questions,
I got all kinds of shit I can tell you.

426
00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:12,363
Yeah, was this in line with
the relationship you had with your father?

427
00:19:12,442 --> 00:19:13,492
Absolutely.

428
00:19:13,569 --> 00:19:16,859
My father's main thing--
He would never tell me what to do,

429
00:19:16,947 --> 00:19:19,447
which you've gotta think
is a strange way to grow up.

430
00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:22,493
His thing was,
you have to be able to make decisions,

431
00:19:23,328 --> 00:19:25,618
which is a real counterintuitive way.

432
00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:27,706
I used to think it was to my detriment.

433
00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:31,211
But the older I get,
I understand why he raised me that way.

434
00:19:31,295 --> 00:19:34,165
He might help me sort through the pieces,

435
00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:36,376
but he wouldn't put the puzzle together.

436
00:19:36,466 --> 00:19:37,716
Did he tell you he loved you?

437
00:19:37,801 --> 00:19:39,091
-All the time.
-All the time.

438
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:41,758
In fact, yeah.
That's a thing in our family.

439
00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:45,597
I don't think I ever leave my children
without letting them know I love them

440
00:19:45,684 --> 00:19:47,904
'cause I never know
what's gonna happen anyway.

441
00:19:47,978 --> 00:19:48,808
Mm-hm.

442
00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:50,806
So, it's the most important thing,

443
00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:52,398
I think, for stability. It's--

444
00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:57,072
You never see a kid who was abused
with that kind of confidence,

445
00:19:57,154 --> 00:19:59,914
or a kid who was neglected
with that kind of confidence.

446
00:19:59,990 --> 00:20:03,450
Sometimes knowing that somebody cares

447
00:20:04,369 --> 00:20:07,159
inspires you
and empowers you to be courageous.

448
00:20:07,247 --> 00:20:13,377
Do they know the comparison
of their life versus the majority of kids,

449
00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:14,882
and the lives they lead?

450
00:20:14,963 --> 00:20:18,593
What I did for a living,
I don't think, factored into their lives

451
00:20:18,675 --> 00:20:21,755
in a way that people think
'cause we don't live in Hollywood.

452
00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:24,965
There's no paparazzi trying
to get their picture.

453
00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,847
You know, the community
protects them in that sense.

454
00:20:27,935 --> 00:20:30,765
The other thing was,
for most of the time I've been here,

455
00:20:30,854 --> 00:20:32,904
my career was going terrible.
So, who cared?

456
00:20:32,981 --> 00:20:34,941
-You know what I mean?
-[laughing]

457
00:20:35,025 --> 00:20:36,685
I really just got this money.

458
00:20:37,194 --> 00:20:38,154
[audience laugh]

459
00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:41,407
We're all just getting used
to it together as a community.

460
00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:42,910
[laughing]

461
00:20:42,991 --> 00:20:44,371
[clapping, laughing]

462
00:20:46,161 --> 00:20:48,831
I was the baby. I was 14 when I started.

463
00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:52,384
When I got to New York,
people looked out for me and made sure

464
00:20:52,459 --> 00:20:55,129
that I didn't go too far the wrong way.

465
00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:59,092
And I'll always appreciate it,
but I remember, maybe a year ago,

466
00:20:59,174 --> 00:21:01,894
comedian in New York,
William Stevenson, passed away.

467
00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:06,429
I went to his memorial service
because I wanted his family to know

468
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:09,392
that he was an important person
on our scene.

469
00:21:09,476 --> 00:21:12,596
I'm looking around the room,
seeing these comedians I've known,

470
00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:15,188
young ones, old ones,
from throughout the years,

471
00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:17,194
and I realized these people are

472
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:20,446
as influential on me
as any community I lived in.

473
00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:23,279
It's a weird club, the real comedians.

474
00:21:23,365 --> 00:21:27,155
Yeah, it's interesting. I have friends
that I've known since grade school.

475
00:21:27,244 --> 00:21:32,544
And then I have friends that I have known
since I went to California

476
00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:34,334
and started the comedy club.

477
00:21:34,418 --> 00:21:36,168
And that's the group,

478
00:21:36,253 --> 00:21:38,883
as much as I love my old friends,
it's that group…

479
00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,049
We're all speaking the same language.

480
00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,304
I understand why cops hang out

481
00:21:44,386 --> 00:21:46,466
with just each other and criminals.

482
00:21:47,264 --> 00:21:48,814
It's just one of those things.

483
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,980
-You're a Muslim?
-I am.

484
00:21:53,061 --> 00:21:55,611
-When did you become Muslim?
-When I was 17.

485
00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:59,279
-What were the circumstances?
-I don't know. Believing in God and stuff.

486
00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:00,940
[laughing]

487
00:22:01,528 --> 00:22:02,358
[chuckles]

488
00:22:02,446 --> 00:22:03,696
I'm not like, you know--

489
00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:06,580
I should preface this by saying,
"It's not like I'm good at it."

490
00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:07,698
[chuckles]

491
00:22:08,827 --> 00:22:11,747
When I was 17, I was living in Washington.

492
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:14,420
And there was a pizza shop
across from my house.

493
00:22:14,958 --> 00:22:17,628
And there were these Muslim dudes
that worked there.

494
00:22:17,711 --> 00:22:19,631
I used to go in there and crack jokes.

495
00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:22,053
And I was also a naturally curious guy.

496
00:22:22,132 --> 00:22:24,552
And I would ask him questions
about his religion.

497
00:22:24,634 --> 00:22:27,894
And the guy was so passionate
about it. It was very compelling.

498
00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:30,022
I liked the perspective of it.

499
00:22:30,098 --> 00:22:32,558
And I think
these things informed my decision

500
00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:34,692
that I wanted to have a meaningful life.

501
00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:35,770
A spiritual life.

502
00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:40,614
Not just what my hands can hold,
but I've always had this notion that

503
00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:41,992
it should mean something.

504
00:22:42,069 --> 00:22:43,029
Even now,

505
00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:46,318
we're sitting in this field
in the middle of nowhere,

506
00:22:46,907 --> 00:22:50,657
but for the last however many months,
we've done 26 shows here.

507
00:22:51,244 --> 00:22:54,504
It's expensive and hard,
and there's a lot of people working hard,

508
00:22:54,581 --> 00:22:59,041
but everyone who works on these shows are
from Ohio or connected to our community.

509
00:22:59,169 --> 00:23:01,379
Many of them were furloughed.
They weren't able to work.

510
00:23:01,463 --> 00:23:06,513
And just me doing stand-up,
we're all able to get back up on our feet.

511
00:23:06,593 --> 00:23:09,013
And to me, that's very meaningful.

512
00:23:09,096 --> 00:23:10,676
I do a million shows,

513
00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:14,064
but the last 26 meant so much to me

514
00:23:14,142 --> 00:23:17,192
because it's my community's offering
to the world.

515
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:18,610
[engine revving]

516
00:23:19,856 --> 00:23:22,606
-Something's wrong with his engine.
-No, no, he's fine.

517
00:23:22,692 --> 00:23:25,322
-I've got a pizza coming.
-[laughing]

518
00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:27,034
[laughing, cheering]

519
00:23:30,867 --> 00:23:35,157
[David] This is now an ecologic institute,
but tell me about it when it was a camp.

520
00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:38,457
We do sixth-grade camp as part
of the school year. My kids did it.

521
00:23:38,542 --> 00:23:40,752
And we'd take long nature hikes.

522
00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:42,956
And they'd show us
all the different birds.

523
00:23:43,046 --> 00:23:44,086
And at the time,

524
00:23:44,172 --> 00:23:48,052
I was living in DC with my mom.
I had been here for maybe a year.

525
00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:51,135
So, I really got into the idea of nature.

526
00:23:51,221 --> 00:23:53,601
You didn't resist it at all. The change.

527
00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:55,232
You welcomed it, actually.

528
00:23:55,308 --> 00:23:57,728
I loved it. One of the things I loved.
[chuckles]

529
00:23:57,811 --> 00:23:59,481
My dad had cable television.

530
00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:00,983
And it changed my life.

531
00:24:01,481 --> 00:24:03,691
MTV and all that shit I watched.

532
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:06,185
-It was the golden years of culture.
-Yeah.

533
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:09,448
I used to stay up all night
watching television on the weekends.

534
00:24:09,531 --> 00:24:14,701
So, you had the natural beauty
of the surroundings and cable TV.

535
00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:17,246
-It was the greatest.
-[chuckles]

536
00:24:17,330 --> 00:24:19,670
-What else does a kid need?
-[Chappelle laughs]

537
00:24:19,749 --> 00:24:24,669
And we're headed toward the body of water
for which the town is named, correct?

538
00:24:24,754 --> 00:24:27,014
That's right. The Yellow Springs.

539
00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:32,050
People used to think it had all kinds,
uh, of magical healing properties.

540
00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:35,774
And the local legend is,
if you drink from the spring,

541
00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:38,019
you will always come back to this place.

542
00:24:38,101 --> 00:24:40,401
Did you ever drink out of the spring?

543
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,859
Clearly, I drank a lot.

544
00:24:41,938 --> 00:24:43,938
-Yeah, I guess.
-I haven't even left.

545
00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:46,444
If you believe the legend,
that makes perfect sense.

546
00:24:46,526 --> 00:24:48,696
So, I'm reading about you being Muslim,

547
00:24:48,778 --> 00:24:51,948
and they referenced something
that I was fascinated by.

548
00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:54,452
The Well of Zamzam.

549
00:24:54,534 --> 00:24:56,954
There's a well called Zamzam
in Saudi Arabia.

550
00:24:57,037 --> 00:24:58,827
And the myth goes

551
00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:03,134
that a family walking
through this desert dying of thirst.

552
00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:06,460
And this endless well presents itself.

553
00:25:06,546 --> 00:25:08,876
-You and I can go see it.
-I could go see it.

554
00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:11,335
You'd probably have
to make some phone calls.

555
00:25:11,426 --> 00:25:14,136
-[David] Have you been there?
-[Chappelle] I have.

556
00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:17,351
It's only welcome to Muslims.
It's not a tourist location.

557
00:25:17,432 --> 00:25:18,812
No. Nor should it be.

558
00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:21,902
The man is the prophet Abraham
and his wife.

559
00:25:21,978 --> 00:25:24,608
The word "Zamzam"-- You guys speak Arabic.

560
00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:28,939
It literally means "stop, stop"
because when it was commanded

561
00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:32,277
that this well would appear,
the water gushed forth so much

562
00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:36,954
that the wife screamed, "Stop, stop"
because it was so overwhelming.

563
00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,615
And they say
that it's an inexhaustible well.

564
00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:41,414
The thing that comforts me about it

565
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:45,168
is the idea that all
of this is from a singular source.

566
00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:47,632
That this source is ultimately kind.

567
00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:51,262
And even though we may not understand
the intentions of this source,

568
00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:53,431
we're all connected and bounded by it.

569
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:56,260
It's not as it's been presented
in the public space.

570
00:25:56,346 --> 00:26:01,556
It's such a narrow
and dismissive view of a religious belief.

571
00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:04,653
It's-- It's a beautiful religion.
A beautiful religion.

572
00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:07,519
And the ideas
in that religion are reflected

573
00:26:07,607 --> 00:26:09,317
in all the major Abrahamic faiths.

574
00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:12,901
You'll see these ideas
in Christianity or Judaism, you know.

575
00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:17,115
But the idea is
that this place does mean something.

576
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,200
It's a place where you come to learn,
where you come to know.

577
00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:21,617
You get here knowing nothing.

578
00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:24,665
You get a head full of shit,
and then you go on.

579
00:26:27,836 --> 00:26:29,456
[David] Whoa, what is this?

580
00:26:29,546 --> 00:26:31,046
This is the spring.

581
00:26:32,173 --> 00:26:33,303
[David] Dave, you in on this?

582
00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:35,593
-[Chappelle] I'm in.
-[David] I'll take a sip when you do.

583
00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:50,477
-Irony.
-I'm fine.

584
00:26:50,567 --> 00:26:51,477
[chuckling]

585
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:53,821
That was cool.

586
00:26:53,903 --> 00:26:55,163
It's the greatest.

587
00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:58,491
Get a little more of this. I'm sorry.

588
00:27:04,164 --> 00:27:05,964
You're definitely coming back here.

589
00:27:06,583 --> 00:27:09,173
Not only coming back here,
I'm buying property.

590
00:27:09,252 --> 00:27:10,422
[chuckling]

591
00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:16,682
When the current president says,

592
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,010
"We're going to look
into keeping Muslims out of this country,"

593
00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:21,926
how does that make you feel?

594
00:27:22,015 --> 00:27:25,685
You don't expect necessarily
that much empathy or compassion

595
00:27:25,769 --> 00:27:28,479
or cultural astuteness
from a guy like that.

596
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:33,070
What you're sad about is that the chair
doesn't have more humanity in it.

597
00:27:33,943 --> 00:27:36,073
But has that chair ever been that humane?

598
00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:40,034
When Biden called Trump
the first racist president ever,

599
00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:42,123
well, clearly that's not true.

600
00:27:42,911 --> 00:27:46,291
So, how do I feel when I hear
a white person say some stupid shit?

601
00:27:46,373 --> 00:27:47,793
[laughing]

602
00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:50,125
[clapping, cheering]

603
00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:54,920
I know the rich white people
call poor white people trash.

604
00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:59,466
And the only reason I know that is
because I made so much money last year,

605
00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:03,220
the rich whites told me
they say it at a cocktail party.

606
00:28:03,723 --> 00:28:04,853
[laughing]

607
00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:06,273
[clapping, cheering]

608
00:28:08,144 --> 00:28:09,774
And I'm not with that shit.

609
00:28:10,438 --> 00:28:13,608
I stood with them in line,
like all of us Americans are required

610
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,442
to do in a democracy.
Nobody skips the line to vote.

611
00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:18,240
And I listened to them.

612
00:28:18,738 --> 00:28:22,448
I listened to them say naive,
poor, white people things.

613
00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:23,544
[laughing]

614
00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:27,331
"Man, Donald Trump is gonna
go to Washington.

615
00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:29,544
And he's going to fight for us."

616
00:28:29,624 --> 00:28:30,634
[audience laughing]

617
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:34,669
I'm standing there, thinking in my mind,
"You dumb motherfucker."

618
00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:37,014
[audience laughing, clapping, cheering]

619
00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:42,433
"You are poor.

620
00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:45,558
He's fighting for me."

621
00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:48,694
[laughing, clapping, cheering]

622
00:28:50,186 --> 00:28:51,306
In any relationship,

623
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:55,066
especially citizen to its country,
trust is everything.

624
00:28:55,150 --> 00:29:00,280
And I think we do have a crisis of a lack
of trust in our country, with good reason.

625
00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:01,873
And what's scary is,

626
00:29:01,948 --> 00:29:04,368
it seems as though
people don't trust each other.

627
00:29:04,451 --> 00:29:07,291
It does not speak well
for our national character

628
00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:10,040
that people hoarded
toilet paper and bullets

629
00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:12,923
in the beginning of the pandemic.
Some scary shit.

630
00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:16,883
But here, I knew people
who walked past a roll of toilet paper

631
00:29:16,963 --> 00:29:18,843
'cause they knew they had a roll at home.

632
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:22,433
So, it was on our shelves longer
than it was in other places.

633
00:29:22,510 --> 00:29:25,310
So, I'm trying to tell you,
community is everything.

634
00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:27,808
Fostering trust
amongst each other is everything.

635
00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:30,191
Whatever you guys argue
about the specifics,

636
00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:34,148
we've got to trust that there will be
a livable level of decency.

637
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:39,070
[chuckles] A livable level of decency,
that's nirvana right there.

638
00:29:39,152 --> 00:29:42,242
But I worry about, just,
what's the world going to be?

639
00:29:42,322 --> 00:29:45,072
Is it going to be tanks in the street,
for God sakes?

640
00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:48,498
Is-- Is it civil war again?

641
00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:51,368
You know?
Or am I thinking too much about this?

642
00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:52,786
'Cause you think…

643
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:56,710
that there will be
a livable level of decency.

644
00:29:56,795 --> 00:30:01,005
Well, I believe that God is in control,
no matter what I worry about.

645
00:30:01,090 --> 00:30:03,010
That only my efforts are my own,

646
00:30:03,092 --> 00:30:05,722
and the results
have nothing to do with me,

647
00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:08,521
but I do what I think is best.

648
00:30:08,598 --> 00:30:11,388
But I just don't know what's best
'cause I'm just a guy,

649
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:15,146
but I trust
that this creation has a purpose.

650
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:19,070
It proves that something perfect exists.

651
00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,110
We have to believe in something,

652
00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:23,494
otherwise why would you continue?

653
00:30:23,571 --> 00:30:27,241
But largely, the awareness
that these things are out

654
00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:29,945
of my control,
do you find that comforting?

655
00:30:30,036 --> 00:30:31,576
I do find it comforting.

656
00:30:31,663 --> 00:30:34,673
I can only do what I intend to do,
you know,

657
00:30:34,749 --> 00:30:37,209
if I even am that thoughtful
about what I'm doing.

658
00:30:37,293 --> 00:30:39,843
[David] I keep using the word "cool"
with regard to you,

659
00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:42,841
but the fact that, you know,
you don't live in New York.

660
00:30:42,924 --> 00:30:44,594
You spent a lot of time in New York.

661
00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:47,346
You don't live in Los Angeles.
Spent a lot of time there.

662
00:30:47,428 --> 00:30:50,558
How many movies did you make
in Los Angeles? Is it like 18, 19?

663
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,810
Yeah.

664
00:30:51,891 --> 00:30:55,981
That's crazy. You started making movies
when you were like 20?

665
00:30:56,062 --> 00:30:57,152
[Chappelle] Nineteen.

666
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:59,770
The most recent one was
A Star is Born, right?

667
00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:02,318
[Chappelle] Yeah, I met
with Bradley Cooper here in Ohio.

668
00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:04,612
He came to a party I threw. [chuckles]

669
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,280
And he asked me to be in the movie.

670
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:10,405
I was watching, um, Half Baked.

671
00:31:10,493 --> 00:31:11,833
[Chappelle chuckles] Yeah.

672
00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:13,957
[audience clapping]

673
00:31:15,206 --> 00:31:16,166
[chuckles]

674
00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:20,339
And, um, you're in, I think,

675
00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:25,880
a janitor one-piece,
dark green jumpsuit kind of deal.

676
00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,177
[Chappelle] Yeah,
that one was electric blue.

677
00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:30,761
And now I see you

678
00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:33,427
on shows and various places

679
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:34,887
in the jumpsuit.

680
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:36,726
-It has your name on it.
-[Chappelle] Yeah.

681
00:31:36,811 --> 00:31:39,271
So, nobody really
looks good in a jumpsuit.

682
00:31:39,355 --> 00:31:42,435
But you, I thought,
"The guy looks okay in a jumpsuit."

683
00:31:42,525 --> 00:31:44,235
So now, I see it in the movie

684
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:46,239
and I think, "Well, there you go."

685
00:31:46,738 --> 00:31:48,448
"He got to keep the wardrobe."

686
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:49,451
[chuckles]

687
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:52,290
[David chuckling]

688
00:31:53,369 --> 00:31:57,079
With a special, it's funny
'cause you never know what to wear.

689
00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:59,245
You watch Richard Pryor: Live in Concert,

690
00:31:59,334 --> 00:32:03,344
they go, "The one where he had
the red suit or the sequin shoes."

691
00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:05,881
Even getting dressed tonight
was a nightmare.

692
00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:08,885
I know that feeling because,
as long as I had a show,

693
00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:11,716
what I didn't have
to worry about was clothes.

694
00:32:11,804 --> 00:32:14,814
And now, this is all I can come up with.

695
00:32:14,891 --> 00:32:15,731
I'm sorry.

696
00:32:15,808 --> 00:32:16,678
[laughing]

697
00:32:17,185 --> 00:32:19,595
All right, when you were doing Letterman,

698
00:32:20,271 --> 00:32:22,611
what kind of role
did fame play in your life?

699
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:24,860
Or were you so sequestered by the work

700
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,783
that you never got to experience it?

701
00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:28,151
It was the latter.

702
00:32:28,237 --> 00:32:32,027
I mean, I know it sounds silly,
but that's exactly what it is.

703
00:32:32,116 --> 00:32:33,576
Because when we started out,

704
00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:36,117
uh, myself and my staff and my crew,

705
00:32:36,204 --> 00:32:38,754
we expected to be canceled
because I had been canceled.

706
00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:40,421
I had done a morning show

707
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:42,750
at NBC that was on
for literally six weeks.

708
00:32:42,835 --> 00:32:44,915
So, "Wait a minute,
where do I go Monday?"

709
00:32:45,004 --> 00:32:46,134
"It's not our problem."

710
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:48,338
So, you focus.

711
00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:51,141
And I have a feeling you understand this.

712
00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:53,809
Your focus gets tighter
and tighter and tighter

713
00:32:53,888 --> 00:32:57,558
because you feel the pressure
to make it better and better and better.

714
00:32:57,642 --> 00:33:00,522
It's a terrible thing to say in public,
but I'm gonna say it.

715
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:02,730
I-- I love being famous.

716
00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:03,864
Good for you.

717
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,270
No I mean, I really like…

718
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:08,650
I love it. I don't like being a celebrity,

719
00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:11,612
but I like being famous.
Does that make sense?

720
00:33:11,698 --> 00:33:13,368
Well, differentiate this for us.

721
00:33:13,449 --> 00:33:14,829
Celebrity is a role.

722
00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:18,289
Celebrity is you walk down a red carpet,
and they ask you what you're wearing.

723
00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:21,791
If you're a lady, you stick your toe out
when they take your picture.

724
00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:24,794
-But you don't do that.
-No, I don't do any of that stuff.

725
00:33:24,877 --> 00:33:27,297
I don't even do interviews.
If it wasn't you,

726
00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:31,302
I wouldn't even want to say anything
to anybody about what I'm doing

727
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:33,394
'cause it's so gut-wrenching to me.

728
00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:37,139
Any job that makes you depend
on the approval of others

729
00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:39,933
for your livelihood is a crazy job.

730
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:43,148
Most people don't have to worry
about whether they're liked or not.

731
00:33:43,229 --> 00:33:46,019
And for us, this is a consideration.

732
00:33:46,607 --> 00:33:49,937
The more you invest
into yourself as a celebrity,

733
00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:51,988
the less of yourself you get to own.

734
00:33:52,905 --> 00:33:54,985
All the stand-up comics in the room,

735
00:33:55,074 --> 00:33:56,454
just want to remind you.

736
00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:58,494
I promise you, and I've always said it,

737
00:33:58,578 --> 00:34:00,248
we have the best genre.

738
00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:02,789
We don't have
to know anything but what we know.

739
00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:07,838
And everything we know is valuable
because of what we do with it.

740
00:34:08,337 --> 00:34:09,837
Stay true to yourself.

741
00:34:10,631 --> 00:34:11,591
Fuck the game.

742
00:34:12,341 --> 00:34:13,591
The money will come.

743
00:34:13,676 --> 00:34:15,386
Most of you won't make it.

744
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,137
[laughing, clapping]

745
00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:20,221
I was talking last night to a comedian
about you, and he said,

746
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:23,388
"The great thing about Dave Chappelle is
that he has saved stand-up comedy

747
00:34:23,978 --> 00:34:27,688
because he does material,
does jokes on the edge,

748
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:30,493
over the line, too much,

749
00:34:30,568 --> 00:34:32,198
uh, offending people,

750
00:34:32,278 --> 00:34:33,648
just doesn't care,

751
00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:35,488
but believes in his right

752
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:39,333
to say, to write
and deliver this material."

753
00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:41,580
And he said,
"He is saving stand-up comedy."

754
00:34:41,662 --> 00:34:47,712
I-- I definitely don't necessarily
aim to offend anybody.

755
00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:50,174
Maybe the thought
of hurting someone's feelings,

756
00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:52,224
that is a painful thought, you know?

757
00:34:52,298 --> 00:34:54,428
But it'll happen in the course of the job.

758
00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:55,509
This is possible.

759
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:59,104
So much of the work
of art is on the viewer

760
00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:00,560
to interpret.

761
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,390
And this time,
we cut people's meat for them so much…

762
00:35:03,476 --> 00:35:04,386
Mm-hm.

763
00:35:04,477 --> 00:35:06,727
…that we do too much
of the audience's work.

764
00:35:06,813 --> 00:35:08,863
And this audience
with this Internet now,

765
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,780
it's like a baby running
around with a loaded gun.

766
00:35:11,859 --> 00:35:15,399
Somebody got to get that gun away
from that baby or, at least not--

767
00:35:15,488 --> 00:35:16,568
[chuckles]

768
00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:19,026
Not be afraid
that the baby has a gun, but…

769
00:35:19,534 --> 00:35:21,414
the sermon is on them.

770
00:35:21,494 --> 00:35:23,504
More than ever,
they gotta do their own work.

771
00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:26,369
-Well, I watched Sticks & Stones.
-[Chappelle] Yeah.

772
00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:27,917
It's hard to articulate

773
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,420
what I observed when I watched you.

774
00:35:30,503 --> 00:35:32,133
It's otherworldly.

775
00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:33,763
I mean, as a communicator,

776
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,760
I'd never seen anything like it.

777
00:35:35,842 --> 00:35:37,972
Entertaining,
I'd never seen anything like it.

778
00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:40,179
That's very-- That's humbling.

779
00:35:40,263 --> 00:35:41,893
No, you hear that all the time.

780
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,483
And, if you were a man
or a woman who was doing it,

781
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,560
where the material was all…

782
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:49,057
[whoosh noise]

783
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,977
Uh, what fun is that?

784
00:35:51,065 --> 00:35:54,485
I want to see if you can guess
who it is I'm doing an impression of.

785
00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:57,359
Let me get into character.
You gotta guess who it is though.

786
00:35:57,446 --> 00:35:59,196
[clears throat] Okay, here it goes.

787
00:35:59,282 --> 00:36:02,082
Uh, duh, hey, dur.

788
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,500
If you do anything wrong in your life,

789
00:36:04,579 --> 00:36:06,039
duh, and I find out about it,

790
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:10,002
I'm gonna try to take everything away
from you. I don't care when I find out.

791
00:36:10,084 --> 00:36:12,844
It could be today, tomorrow,
15-20 years from now.

792
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,050
If I find out,
you're fucking, duh, finished.

793
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:18,510
Who-- Who's that?

794
00:36:18,593 --> 00:36:19,683
[man] Trump!

795
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,430
That's you!

796
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:23,470
[laughing]

797
00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:26,306
That special was my second favorite.

798
00:36:26,392 --> 00:36:28,522
The thing that I really liked about it was

799
00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:32,363
that it was very difficult at the time
to say any of those things.

800
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,400
You come out there. You're cool. You don't
give a fuck, but it's gut-wrenching

801
00:36:36,485 --> 00:36:39,525
'cause you are subject
to the interpretation of so many people.

802
00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:42,584
And I understand why people
take objection to this material

803
00:36:42,658 --> 00:36:44,368
and all that, but it's, uh…

804
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:46,121
It's worth exploring.

805
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:48,874
It's a well-intentioned piece.

806
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:53,630
Well, maybe this is a loftier
than I'm smart enough to put together,

807
00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:56,131
but without disagreement,
do you learn anything?

808
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:57,514
In that particular special?

809
00:36:57,590 --> 00:37:01,430
No, no, generally speaking,
if we all agreed--

810
00:37:02,011 --> 00:37:04,011
Everybody here all agreed on everything,

811
00:37:04,096 --> 00:37:05,506
what's to learn?

812
00:37:05,598 --> 00:37:06,678
That's exactly right.

813
00:37:06,766 --> 00:37:09,226
I think that we're unpacking so much

814
00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:11,480
that they've got
to leave some kind of room…

815
00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:13,687
for redemption.

816
00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:17,072
The more room for redemption,
the more room there is

817
00:37:17,151 --> 00:37:18,361
for people to be honest.

818
00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:21,284
If you want to get
to the bottom of any of these things,

819
00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,454
any of these issues
that keep getting raised,

820
00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:26,992
it's going to require some honesty
and definitely some forgiveness.

821
00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:30,040
Nobody
in this whole goddamn prison did anything,

822
00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:32,922
as the old saying goes,
but everybody did something.

823
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,960
And if we make it contextual,

824
00:37:35,044 --> 00:37:39,054
we can actually honestly address
what we've done.

825
00:37:39,131 --> 00:37:41,381
We can even figure out what is happening,

826
00:37:41,467 --> 00:37:44,387
why these things are being perpetuated,
et cetera.

827
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:47,140
Then we'll come
to a more comprehensive understanding,

828
00:37:47,223 --> 00:37:48,723
but this tightrope walk

829
00:37:48,808 --> 00:37:51,098
just makes everybody not want
to get caught.

830
00:37:51,185 --> 00:37:54,725
Let me ask you-- And again,
this is a question I thought up myself,

831
00:37:54,814 --> 00:37:55,654
so get ready.

832
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,360
Um…

833
00:37:57,441 --> 00:37:59,571
Bob Dylan, when he was a kid,

834
00:37:59,652 --> 00:38:03,412
twenty, twenty-one, just about like
when you were on my show.

835
00:38:03,906 --> 00:38:06,656
And it coincided with the peace movement,

836
00:38:06,742 --> 00:38:07,872
and free sex,

837
00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:09,372
and freedom of speech,

838
00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:10,963
and anti-government.

839
00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:12,668
And I think these people,

840
00:38:12,748 --> 00:38:14,498
they were able
to end the Vietnam War.

841
00:38:14,583 --> 00:38:18,133
And everyone assumed
that he was the spokesperson

842
00:38:18,629 --> 00:38:19,509
for that.

843
00:38:19,588 --> 00:38:21,378
And he just flat-out explained,

844
00:38:21,465 --> 00:38:24,335
"I'm not. I'm just singing protest songs."

845
00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:26,224
After George Floyd,

846
00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:28,009
I kept waiting.

847
00:38:28,097 --> 00:38:30,097
When are we going to hear from David?

848
00:38:30,182 --> 00:38:32,772
And I thought, in my mind,
he is a leader here.

849
00:38:32,852 --> 00:38:36,062
Uh, uh, how far off am I?
Or am I right on the money?

850
00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:37,897
Or should I go back to Indiana?

851
00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:40,322
[Chappelle] No. No, look.

852
00:38:40,401 --> 00:38:42,151
I'm far from a leader.

853
00:38:42,236 --> 00:38:43,606
-Do you want to be?
-Far--

854
00:38:43,696 --> 00:38:45,066
[chuckles] No! No.

855
00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:46,946
[audience laughing]

856
00:38:47,616 --> 00:38:51,576
I'm having way more fun being
whatever the fuck I am

857
00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:55,542
than being somebody
that people would look to

858
00:38:55,624 --> 00:38:57,794
for, like, moral or intellectual guidance

859
00:38:57,877 --> 00:39:01,297
in the climate
of living a completely different way.

860
00:39:01,797 --> 00:39:03,757
There's no pension plan for leaders.

861
00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:07,011
Martin Luther King died penniless.
Malcolm X died penniless.

862
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,140
Uh, I don't want to do that.

863
00:39:09,221 --> 00:39:10,261
[audience laughing]

864
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,728
But that's-- That's your view.

865
00:39:12,808 --> 00:39:15,018
I'm waiting for you to say something.

866
00:39:15,102 --> 00:39:16,902
What does that make me? A follower.

867
00:39:16,979 --> 00:39:22,649
Okay. Well, I said it behind
what many others were already doing.

868
00:39:22,735 --> 00:39:27,195
And the commentary
after it was very heady and intellectual.

869
00:39:27,281 --> 00:39:30,371
And I was shocked
that nobody ever talked about

870
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:32,328
what it feels like

871
00:39:32,828 --> 00:39:35,458
to watch a man get murdered that way

872
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,330
by a man in a police uniform.

873
00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:41,706
I was thinking about this
with regard to George Floyd.

874
00:39:41,796 --> 00:39:44,916
Fifty-five years ago, April 1965,

875
00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:48,434
John Lewis and his friends, colleagues,

876
00:39:49,136 --> 00:39:51,846
are walking across
the Edmund Pettus Bridge

877
00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:53,641
in Selma, Alabama.

878
00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:56,016
And a cop, uh, with a nightstick,

879
00:39:56,727 --> 00:39:58,597
like batting practice, tees up

880
00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:02,478
and hits him in the side of the head,
cracks his skull and nearly kills him.

881
00:40:02,566 --> 00:40:03,566
Nearly kills him.

882
00:40:04,068 --> 00:40:06,568
He survives and devotes his life

883
00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:09,322
to this struggle.

884
00:40:09,824 --> 00:40:11,414
And toward the end of his life,

885
00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,792
almost simultaneously, George Floyd,

886
00:40:14,286 --> 00:40:19,416
who, I don't know if he was ever
an activist in any sense,

887
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:20,380
is killed,

888
00:40:20,459 --> 00:40:22,289
murdered, lynched

889
00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:25,514
by an officer of the law.

890
00:40:26,132 --> 00:40:28,682
Uh, the comparison is just right there.

891
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:33,680
They will both now be part
of the culture going forward

892
00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:36,564
to repair what needs to be repaired.

893
00:40:36,642 --> 00:40:38,312
What a tragic footnote

894
00:40:39,228 --> 00:40:40,858
to a tragic culture.

895
00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:41,938
[indistinct chatter]

896
00:40:42,982 --> 00:40:44,572
This is a lot to unpack.

897
00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:47,784
You know, nights like this are,

898
00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:49,072
I think, important.

899
00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:51,202
Just-- Just talking about it.

900
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:53,913
Uh, we're countrymen.

901
00:40:53,993 --> 00:40:55,793
All of us. We live in America.

902
00:40:56,704 --> 00:40:58,874
We all got our problems, our strifes.

903
00:40:58,956 --> 00:41:00,826
It's weird now because,

904
00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:05,173
uh, this game of who's suffered more
that everyone keeps getting the ball.

905
00:41:06,213 --> 00:41:07,303
And they act like

906
00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:10,841
everyone's suffering is mutually exclusive
from everyone else's.

907
00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:14,934
And you and I both know
that's far from the case.

908
00:41:15,014 --> 00:41:17,394
There's a lot of angles
that you could approach this

909
00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:20,095
and look at this from
and learn from each other from.

910
00:41:20,186 --> 00:41:23,726
But it's a thing,
and I'm troubled about the volume of it.

911
00:41:23,814 --> 00:41:28,154
It doesn't sound like something settling
or hurtling towards an easy resolution.

912
00:41:28,235 --> 00:41:30,645
People say
that what's going on is different now.

913
00:41:30,738 --> 00:41:33,318
Therefore, we predict real change.

914
00:41:33,407 --> 00:41:36,617
-Do you have that feeling?
-I'm not making any predictions.

915
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:41,121
Of course, I am very hopeful, yes,
that there will be real change.

916
00:41:41,707 --> 00:41:45,247
And, just traditionally,
from my experience,

917
00:41:45,753 --> 00:41:49,553
uh, change is never
a comfortable proposition.

918
00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:51,882
It's uncomfortable
before it's comfortable again.

919
00:41:52,468 --> 00:41:56,308
It'll be quite the negotiation.
If you think of it as a negotiation,

920
00:41:56,388 --> 00:41:59,768
how the fuck do you negotiate
with Derek Chauvin?

921
00:42:00,809 --> 00:42:03,729
What are we talking about?
This guy-- This guy--

922
00:42:04,396 --> 00:42:05,806
I couldn't even imagine.

923
00:42:05,898 --> 00:42:08,688
It's interesting. People say that, uh,

924
00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:12,493
if we didn't have body cams
and cell phones,

925
00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:15,911
uh, we wouldn't know
that all of this was going on.

926
00:42:15,991 --> 00:42:18,161
And it will be a huge deterrent.

927
00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,294
Well, in this case,
it wasn't a deterrent at all.

928
00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:22,712
You get the feeling--

929
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:26,460
And he had trained the officers
with him at the scene of the arrest--

930
00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:30,214
-That's exactly right.
-To me, he's showing off for the cameras.

931
00:42:30,297 --> 00:42:33,297
"Here, let me show you how this is done.
No, no, I got this.

932
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,304
Here. I can kill a guy with my knee."

933
00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:39,466
And that piece I did about--
About, uh, George Floyd,

934
00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:41,977
and I talked about the police
in Staten Island

935
00:42:42,059 --> 00:42:43,599
watching his fellow officers

936
00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:48,476
kill a man and not reprimanding him
because they knew they were being filmed.

937
00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:52,816
It's not like I'm against cameras,
but I don't want retroactive justice.

938
00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:55,413
I don't want you
to get them after I'm dead.

939
00:42:55,489 --> 00:42:56,869
I want you to stop it.

940
00:42:56,949 --> 00:42:59,289
In the two cases
that we are discussing here,

941
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:02,790
what do you say
about these people who stood there?

942
00:43:02,871 --> 00:43:05,041
I don't want to make any value judgment.

943
00:43:05,124 --> 00:43:08,884
I can't imagine seeing something
like that. All of this is unimaginable.

944
00:43:08,961 --> 00:43:11,381
It's a situation
I've never personally been in.

945
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,380
I don't wanna judge him,
but I wish someone had stopped it.

946
00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:15,676
Of course, like anybody.

947
00:43:17,344 --> 00:43:18,304
John Crawford,

948
00:43:19,388 --> 00:43:21,928
a black man that was murdered here
in a local Walmart.

949
00:43:22,016 --> 00:43:23,636
He wasn't doing anything wrong.

950
00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:27,232
Got murdered
by a cop in Beavercreek, Ohio.

951
00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:29,150
In that municipality,

952
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:32,110
there's only been
two fatal police killings

953
00:43:32,192 --> 00:43:35,782
in the history of that municipality.
The same guy did both of them.

954
00:43:35,863 --> 00:43:38,533
The first guy he shot was white.

955
00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:42,196
Had they stopped him then,
it wouldn't even be a racial issue.

956
00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:45,996
It's just about overaggressive,
overzealous policing.

957
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:49,000
It's about whatever type
of training he was given.

958
00:43:49,084 --> 00:43:52,634
For whatever reason, this guy killed
two people in the line of duty.

959
00:43:52,713 --> 00:43:58,093
And I don't think the community at large
was satisfied with the repercussions.

960
00:43:58,177 --> 00:43:59,547
There were little, if any.

961
00:44:00,512 --> 00:44:03,812
The phrase Black Lives Matter
is important, but it is deceptive.

962
00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:08,521
This-- This problem is not exclusively
an African-American problem.

963
00:44:08,604 --> 00:44:09,904
It's disproportionately one,

964
00:44:10,898 --> 00:44:12,188
but not exclusively ours.

965
00:44:12,274 --> 00:44:13,484
And the other thing is,

966
00:44:13,567 --> 00:44:17,197
if Russia is, in fact,
exploiting our racist tendencies

967
00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:19,485
to dissolve our union,

968
00:44:19,573 --> 00:44:21,993
then you'd have
to look at something like racism

969
00:44:22,076 --> 00:44:24,286
as a matter of national security.

970
00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:27,250
You've got to shore all the holes up,
then plug them up

971
00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:30,501
and make sure
we're functioning as a cohesive nation.

972
00:44:30,584 --> 00:44:34,424
If the people that execute your laws
are kneeling on people's necks, that's--

973
00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:35,755
You have no country.

974
00:44:36,256 --> 00:44:37,626
You have to stop that shit.

975
00:44:37,716 --> 00:44:39,926
That's why
these people are storming the streets

976
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:42,970
because they want to save their country.
It makes perfect sense.

977
00:44:43,055 --> 00:44:44,215
[audience clapping]

978
00:44:45,265 --> 00:44:46,765
-Whose streets?
-Our streets!

979
00:44:46,850 --> 00:44:48,480
-Whose streets?
-Our streets!

980
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,850
-Whose streets?
-Our streets!

981
00:44:49,937 --> 00:44:52,977
[David] Have you, in this community,
ever had police trouble?

982
00:44:53,065 --> 00:44:56,145
-Of course, we have police trouble here.
-But you, personally?

983
00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:57,775
Nobody fucks with me.

984
00:44:57,861 --> 00:44:59,111
[laughing]

985
00:45:00,322 --> 00:45:04,242
-You've never been stopped by a cop?
-Of course, but it never went too far.

986
00:45:04,326 --> 00:45:06,116
I keep my hands at ten and two.

987
00:45:06,620 --> 00:45:10,250
I speak respectfully. They keep it
respectfully, but it's different here.

988
00:45:10,332 --> 00:45:11,712
It's small-town.

989
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:13,672
I see them tomorrow, and they go,

990
00:45:13,752 --> 00:45:15,422
"Do you have your license
and registration?"

991
00:45:15,504 --> 00:45:17,174
"It's me, Dave!"

992
00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:18,376
[laughing]

993
00:45:19,466 --> 00:45:22,176
It's not the typical traffic stop.

994
00:45:22,678 --> 00:45:25,928
Have I been stopped here before
when I was in someone else's car,

995
00:45:26,014 --> 00:45:27,604
and they didn't know it was me?

996
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,810
Uh, yeah, it's happened,
but, normally, nobody bothers me.

997
00:45:31,895 --> 00:45:33,895
They know. Everyone knows.
It's small-town.

998
00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:36,111
If I was doing something crazy,
they'd stop me.

999
00:45:36,191 --> 00:45:37,941
But normally, I don't think they will.

1000
00:45:38,026 --> 00:45:40,276
What about if you lived in a bigger town?

1001
00:45:40,362 --> 00:45:41,202
Of course.

1002
00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:43,867
I got choked out by a police officer

1003
00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:46,909
in New Orleans before,
when I was working on a movie set.

1004
00:45:46,994 --> 00:45:47,914
Really?

1005
00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:50,285
Yeah. I remember running
from one comedy club

1006
00:45:50,372 --> 00:45:52,042
to another in Greenwich Village

1007
00:45:52,124 --> 00:45:54,714
and was stopped by the police for running,

1008
00:45:55,461 --> 00:45:57,341
which is not illegal. I was late.

1009
00:45:57,421 --> 00:45:58,551
[chuckles]

1010
00:45:58,630 --> 00:46:00,840
The police officer stuck his hand
in my pocket.

1011
00:46:00,924 --> 00:46:03,724
We comedians get paid
in cash from running those spots.

1012
00:46:03,802 --> 00:46:06,352
So, I had, you know, a lot of cash.

1013
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:08,720
The cop assumed I was selling drugs

1014
00:46:08,807 --> 00:46:11,727
and started to put my money

1015
00:46:11,810 --> 00:46:13,060
in his pocket.

1016
00:46:13,145 --> 00:46:16,145
Oh, yeah. These types
of things happen all the fucking time.

1017
00:46:16,231 --> 00:46:19,861
It's not like people are just suddenly,
irrationally getting upset.

1018
00:46:19,943 --> 00:46:22,863
There are causes to the sentiment

1019
00:46:22,946 --> 00:46:24,566
that the police are not good.

1020
00:46:24,656 --> 00:46:27,576
And the police eroded the trust
in the institution.

1021
00:46:27,659 --> 00:46:30,619
They can't act like the institution
didn't have anything to do with it.

1022
00:46:30,704 --> 00:46:33,624
And do you look
at that episode and think to yourself,

1023
00:46:33,707 --> 00:46:37,037
"This could have gone sideways,
and I'd been gone."

1024
00:46:37,127 --> 00:46:39,417
-You ever think about that?
-Yeah, of course.

1025
00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:42,875
When I was in high school,
it was during the crack epidemic.

1026
00:46:42,966 --> 00:46:44,586
And in DC public schools,

1027
00:46:44,676 --> 00:46:46,216
we took Street Law classes.

1028
00:46:46,303 --> 00:46:48,973
They would teach us
how to engage the police

1029
00:46:49,056 --> 00:46:53,016
because the crack epidemic
was so dangerous for kids of color.

1030
00:46:53,977 --> 00:46:55,017
It's a thing.

1031
00:46:55,103 --> 00:46:58,483
It is incumbent upon us

1032
00:46:58,565 --> 00:47:01,065
to save our country.

1033
00:47:01,151 --> 00:47:01,991
[clapping]

1034
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:03,989
And you know what we have to do.

1035
00:47:04,071 --> 00:47:06,741
This is a fucking election year.
We gotta be serious.

1036
00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:11,664
Every able-bodied African American
must register

1037
00:47:11,745 --> 00:47:13,615
for a legal firearm.

1038
00:47:13,705 --> 00:47:14,745
[laughing]

1039
00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:16,002
[cheering, clapping]

1040
00:47:26,426 --> 00:47:28,886
That's the only way
they will change the law.

1041
00:47:28,971 --> 00:47:30,681
[audience laughing]

1042
00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:36,903
Are you writing a lot now?

1043
00:47:36,979 --> 00:47:38,859
-Go head, light one.
-Oh man. You are the best.

1044
00:47:40,691 --> 00:47:41,571
[sighs]

1045
00:47:42,192 --> 00:47:43,692
[chuckling]

1046
00:47:43,777 --> 00:47:45,567
You smoke weed, Dave? Just kidding.

1047
00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:50,204
-I don't have any.
-[chuckles] Yes, I'm high as a kite now.

1048
00:47:50,284 --> 00:47:51,544
I wish.

1049
00:47:51,618 --> 00:47:52,488
[chuckles]

1050
00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:54,958
How often are you smoking weed?

1051
00:47:55,038 --> 00:47:57,828
Not as much as people think. I'm 46 now.

1052
00:47:57,916 --> 00:48:00,336
-Does it help you write?
-No. No.

1053
00:48:00,419 --> 00:48:01,959
Does it help you perform?

1054
00:48:02,045 --> 00:48:04,835
No. I have enormous amounts of anxiety.

1055
00:48:04,923 --> 00:48:06,013
Just doing what I do.

1056
00:48:06,091 --> 00:48:08,841
And it quelled it, for the most part.

1057
00:48:08,927 --> 00:48:11,427
Nobody's going
to live an anxiety-free life,

1058
00:48:11,513 --> 00:48:12,723
but it's manageable.

1059
00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:16,386
Any of my business, what the source
of the anxiety is? Just life?

1060
00:48:16,476 --> 00:48:18,936
I think, you know, with this job,

1061
00:48:19,021 --> 00:48:23,481
people take for granted
the emotional wear and tear of doing this.

1062
00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:26,697
And I think you have
to preserve your openness.

1063
00:48:26,778 --> 00:48:29,278
When you look at a finished product,

1064
00:48:30,115 --> 00:48:31,235
one of your specials.

1065
00:48:31,325 --> 00:48:32,155
Oh.

1066
00:48:32,451 --> 00:48:35,541
-Are you involved in the editing of those?
-Very much.

1067
00:48:35,621 --> 00:48:39,421
What about the video
that was released, uh…

1068
00:48:39,917 --> 00:48:41,837
after George Floyd's death?

1069
00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:44,339
I put it out with a caveat.

1070
00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:46,301
I know-- I know that it's unrefined,

1071
00:48:46,381 --> 00:48:47,511
but if I refine it,

1072
00:48:47,591 --> 00:48:50,181
then it will become, uh, less genuine.

1073
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:51,550
What was the reaction?

1074
00:48:51,637 --> 00:48:52,717
That I got?

1075
00:48:52,804 --> 00:48:55,274
Most people felt relieved

1076
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:58,809
'cause it touched something
that people were feeling

1077
00:48:58,894 --> 00:49:01,404
that wasn't being reflected
in the larger conversation.

1078
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,570
Right. That goes back
to my perspective on that which was,

1079
00:49:05,651 --> 00:49:07,491
"Oh, here it is."

1080
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:09,279
I knew-- I knew it had to come.

1081
00:49:09,363 --> 00:49:13,373
It did come, and there it was.
So, from that standpoint, it was great.

1082
00:49:13,951 --> 00:49:15,491
Oh man, I appreciate it.

1083
00:49:15,577 --> 00:49:19,667
I don't know how to say this
without it being redundant,

1084
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,788
but when I have seen your work,

1085
00:49:23,293 --> 00:49:28,843
uh, I've never seen anybody better.
I've just never seen anybody better.

1086
00:49:28,924 --> 00:49:30,724
But, I look at you--

1087
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:33,511
-No, stop. No, no…
-No, I do. This is important. I do.

1088
00:49:33,595 --> 00:49:35,755
Remember the last time I did your show?

1089
00:49:36,932 --> 00:49:39,102
When I was leaving-- I watched it today,

1090
00:49:39,184 --> 00:49:40,944
just to remember what it felt like.

1091
00:49:41,019 --> 00:49:43,229
And when I was sitting with you,
I thought--

1092
00:49:43,313 --> 00:49:46,113
I was paranoid. I was like,
"Maybe this guy doesn't like me."

1093
00:49:46,775 --> 00:49:50,605
Then, I watched it afterward. I'm like,
"This guy actually likes me very much."

1094
00:49:50,696 --> 00:49:52,606
The questions were real thoughtful.

1095
00:49:52,698 --> 00:49:58,158
In a way, it was intimidating to be
on your show, this highly-watched show,

1096
00:49:58,245 --> 00:50:02,205
but it felt like an actual conversation.

1097
00:50:03,333 --> 00:50:05,503
And, the fact
that someone of your stature--

1098
00:50:05,585 --> 00:50:07,745
And remember,
the last time I did your show,

1099
00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:10,128
we all already knew you were leaving.

1100
00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:11,585
It was this feeling of,

1101
00:50:11,675 --> 00:50:14,965
"I might not be able to sit down
and talk to this guy

1102
00:50:15,053 --> 00:50:16,433
in this context again."

1103
00:50:16,513 --> 00:50:18,683
"I don't know when I'd ever see
David Letterman again."

1104
00:50:18,765 --> 00:50:21,885
It was important I told you,
"I'm happy to see you on television.

1105
00:50:22,394 --> 00:50:25,694
I'm happy to see you off television.
I'm just happy to know you exist."

1106
00:50:25,772 --> 00:50:27,822
I think about the show
you did in the '80s.

1107
00:50:27,899 --> 00:50:31,149
I used to live here
when you were on Late Night on NBC.

1108
00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:34,782
And I started watching your show,
and I was enamored by it.

1109
00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:38,035
The fact that you're here right now,
it's amazing to me.

1110
00:50:38,744 --> 00:50:42,874
I think of all the great interviews
with Eddie Murphy and Andy Kaufman,

1111
00:50:42,956 --> 00:50:44,536
and all these people I admire,

1112
00:50:45,167 --> 00:50:49,587
and the platform that you gave this genre
that I love so much.

1113
00:50:50,505 --> 00:50:55,385
So, it's easy for me to do things
if I've seen them before.

1114
00:50:55,886 --> 00:50:59,056
And because of your show,
many of the things I've learned to do,

1115
00:50:59,765 --> 00:51:01,385
I-- I saw them somewhere.

1116
00:51:01,475 --> 00:51:03,845
Well, you're very kind. No, it's--

1117
00:51:03,935 --> 00:51:04,975
[audience clapping]

1118
00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:06,352
-It's true.
-Thank you.

1119
00:51:07,773 --> 00:51:12,403
Uh, we've been doing this show,
and I don't know how many we've done.

1120
00:51:12,486 --> 00:51:16,356
And the schedule has been intermittent
and interrupted,

1121
00:51:16,448 --> 00:51:18,238
like everybody's schedule.

1122
00:51:18,325 --> 00:51:19,865
And each time,

1123
00:51:19,951 --> 00:51:23,081
I'm gratified
because the person in that chair,

1124
00:51:23,705 --> 00:51:26,535
uh, is so much smarter than I am.

1125
00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:32,630
And I would have to say
that the stature you have achieved

1126
00:51:32,714 --> 00:51:37,094
in your chosen craft is so well deserved,
my friend.

1127
00:51:37,177 --> 00:51:39,847
[Chappelle] Oh my gosh.
Thank you, man. Sincerely.

1128
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:40,810
[clapping]

1129
00:51:44,267 --> 00:51:46,137
David Chappelle.

1130
00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:47,563
David Letterman.

1131
00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:48,516
[cheering]

1132
00:51:50,649 --> 00:51:52,069
I'm honored, man.

1133
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:54,280
No, I'm honored.
Good Lord, I am honored.

1134
00:51:54,361 --> 00:51:57,321
Okay, all of this stuff is yours.
Come up and get it.

1135
00:51:57,405 --> 00:51:58,615
[laughing]

1136
00:51:58,698 --> 00:52:00,078
[theme music playing]