1 00:00:11,136 --> 00:00:13,680 "We all worship false idols." 2 00:00:13,764 --> 00:00:16,600 That's what my friend, Joshua Keith, once told me. 3 00:00:17,267 --> 00:00:20,145 He recognized the power of worship. 4 00:00:20,229 --> 00:00:25,442 That unfettered belief was the holiest form of any ritual. 5 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:30,906 For Joshua, the truth was his chosen deity. 6 00:00:33,242 --> 00:00:39,581 But the true believer, the blind follower, was a creature he could not understand. 7 00:00:39,665 --> 00:00:43,418 The subject of Josh's documentary, the Sons of Ivar, 8 00:00:43,502 --> 00:00:45,295 claimed him as their own. 9 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:48,090 But rather than a supposed men's rights group, 10 00:00:48,173 --> 00:00:51,802 Josh saw only a sea of violent men. 11 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:53,387 So he disavowed them. 12 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:56,056 Shunning their leaders, their philosophy, 13 00:00:56,139 --> 00:01:00,853 and any attempts they made to claim him or his art as their own. 14 00:01:00,936 --> 00:01:03,939 And because of that, he made enemies. 15 00:01:07,734 --> 00:01:13,031 The abrupt closing of Joshua's case is just too easy. 16 00:01:14,366 --> 00:01:16,702 Too many questions left unanswered. 17 00:01:17,536 --> 00:01:22,165 Questions the San Francisco Police Department refused to solve. 18 00:01:32,259 --> 00:01:35,220 We will present the known facts. 19 00:01:35,888 --> 00:01:39,433 The information ignored by the media and the police. 20 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:47,357 Join me on this season of Reconsidered: Joshua Keith. 21 00:02:57,928 --> 00:03:00,305 I see the horn of Drengir beckoned you in. 22 00:03:01,765 --> 00:03:05,185 There's easier ways to ingratiate yourself into our esteem. 23 00:03:06,436 --> 00:03:10,816 Our group is lousy with disgruntled, alienated cops. 24 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,693 What's one more? 25 00:03:12,776 --> 00:03:13,944 We're alone. 26 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:18,198 Off. 27 00:03:18,282 --> 00:03:19,741 No, no. Needs to look official. 28 00:03:19,825 --> 00:03:21,451 Don't wanna blow your cover. 29 00:03:21,535 --> 00:03:23,745 Yeah. I wouldn't mind if you did. 30 00:03:24,329 --> 00:03:28,375 Had about all I can take of this beta male victimhood. 31 00:03:30,419 --> 00:03:32,462 So you find anything on the Keith murder? 32 00:03:33,088 --> 00:03:34,631 Sons of Ivar involved? 33 00:03:37,092 --> 00:03:38,886 Double murder's beyond them. 34 00:03:38,969 --> 00:03:42,181 The guys I know can hardly read a QAnon post without blushing. 35 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:45,934 Well, being a pussy is not a recognized defense. 36 00:03:47,352 --> 00:03:49,188 But an alibi is. 37 00:03:49,271 --> 00:03:52,858 The entire top brass was overseeing a new member initiation. 38 00:03:53,609 --> 00:03:56,278 Live cameras, witnesses, whatever you're gonna need. 39 00:03:58,197 --> 00:04:00,157 I thought the case was closed already. 40 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,243 Yeah, that's the official stance of the department. 41 00:04:04,411 --> 00:04:06,246 So, shouldn't you be back on Intelligence? 42 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:08,832 Well, Parnell's keeping the story in the news. 43 00:04:08,916 --> 00:04:11,293 Maybe she's got a point. 44 00:04:13,128 --> 00:04:14,963 So what does Sarge think about this? 45 00:04:15,047 --> 00:04:17,757 No, he doesn't want any leaks or distractions. 46 00:04:17,841 --> 00:04:19,551 Not after what happened to Owen Cave. 47 00:04:21,178 --> 00:04:24,348 -Well, it's good he trusts you then. -Yeah. 48 00:04:25,182 --> 00:04:27,434 That or he needs a fall guy nobody's gonna miss. 49 00:05:13,188 --> 00:05:14,189 Yeah. 50 00:05:14,731 --> 00:05:15,732 Sing it. 51 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,053 That was wonderful. 52 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:48,307 Just... wonderful. 53 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:49,516 Thank you, Daddy. 54 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,934 Yeah, it was nice to sing again. 55 00:05:53,604 --> 00:05:55,063 I'll tell you what I didn't like. 56 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:57,232 You heard that new priest? 57 00:05:58,025 --> 00:05:59,860 "Redeemer, Sustainer, Creator." 58 00:05:59,943 --> 00:06:02,154 What happened to "Father, Son, Holy Spirit"? 59 00:06:02,237 --> 00:06:04,239 The new words include everybody, Daddy. 60 00:06:04,323 --> 00:06:06,909 You will never convince him, so don't even try. 61 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:10,954 He's still got us wearing veils, and those were stopped before I was born. 62 00:06:11,038 --> 00:06:13,540 Hey, don't remind me how young you are, Elinor. 63 00:06:19,046 --> 00:06:22,382 Well, I've been called a lot of things but never that. 64 00:06:23,258 --> 00:06:24,259 What? 65 00:06:26,011 --> 00:06:27,721 You called me Elinor. 66 00:06:38,565 --> 00:06:39,816 Girls, come sit down. 67 00:06:45,489 --> 00:06:47,115 Poppy, you come sit next to me. 68 00:06:49,993 --> 00:06:51,328 I got something to say. 69 00:06:56,875 --> 00:07:00,212 When my mama and daddy died, the family just didn't leave Louisiana. 70 00:07:00,295 --> 00:07:01,797 We left each other. 71 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:05,467 I want y'all to stay together. 72 00:07:06,718 --> 00:07:08,053 What's going on? 73 00:07:08,136 --> 00:07:09,346 Shreve. 74 00:07:13,892 --> 00:07:15,853 You know I've been having some difficulties. 75 00:07:17,062 --> 00:07:18,981 It seems it might be something more serious. 76 00:07:21,024 --> 00:07:24,069 Poppy got me into a medical study in the city. 77 00:07:27,364 --> 00:07:29,950 And you didn't wanna tell me first? 78 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:31,410 What kind of problems, Daddy? 79 00:07:32,619 --> 00:07:34,037 I didn't want you to know. 80 00:07:34,538 --> 00:07:35,998 Not Poppy, not any of you. 81 00:07:37,499 --> 00:07:40,210 But you're my family, and that's what family's for. 82 00:07:44,715 --> 00:07:46,466 Now, the doctors think it's... 83 00:07:48,802 --> 00:07:53,849 CTE, a brain disease from repeated head injuries. 84 00:07:53,932 --> 00:07:56,810 Likely from boxing in the Navy, yeah. 85 00:07:56,894 --> 00:07:59,855 They can't tell for sure until I'm dead and they cut me open. 86 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:03,692 I need something out of my purse. 87 00:08:36,642 --> 00:08:38,309 Please don't stop on my account. 88 00:08:39,645 --> 00:08:41,897 I've had plenty of those moments myself. 89 00:08:43,607 --> 00:08:45,025 Not in front of him, I bet. 90 00:08:47,236 --> 00:08:49,071 But maybe that's why we have each other. 91 00:08:54,535 --> 00:08:58,705 You know, he was more scared of you finding out 92 00:08:59,665 --> 00:09:02,501 and looking at him differently than he was of the disease. 93 00:09:08,006 --> 00:09:10,217 I'm not tryna lose my man, Poppy. 94 00:09:11,635 --> 00:09:13,428 And I don't wanna lose my daddy. 95 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:18,809 So we stand strong against whatever's coming. 96 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:22,437 And, Lillian. 97 00:09:24,022 --> 00:09:25,023 Lillian. 98 00:09:27,067 --> 00:09:28,610 We never turn on each other. 99 00:09:29,987 --> 00:09:32,281 I will be here every step of the way. I promise. 100 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:35,659 I promise. 101 00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:43,292 My source said that Sons of Ivar are off the suspect list. 102 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:45,002 You hear that from Aames? 103 00:09:45,085 --> 00:09:46,170 He would never. 104 00:09:47,129 --> 00:09:50,757 The official stance of the department is that the case is still closed. 105 00:09:52,176 --> 00:09:53,177 What about Drew Turney? 106 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,804 No priors, no notable affiliations. 107 00:09:56,388 --> 00:09:58,932 He was accepted into USC. Deferred it for a year. 108 00:09:59,474 --> 00:10:01,518 -Wealthy family? -Not especially. 109 00:10:02,269 --> 00:10:04,646 He was doing the 20-something gig job grind 110 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:07,608 and sharing a place with five roommates until three months ago. 111 00:10:07,691 --> 00:10:11,528 He quit with no notice and moved to a luxe studio in the Marina. 112 00:10:11,612 --> 00:10:13,322 None of 'em knew where the money came from. 113 00:10:13,405 --> 00:10:14,573 But... 114 00:10:15,741 --> 00:10:18,410 Joshua's calls to Drew started six months ago. 115 00:10:18,493 --> 00:10:20,746 No app, no intermediary. 116 00:10:21,455 --> 00:10:23,707 By last month, the calls were almost daily. 117 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,834 Sometimes lasting as long as an hour. 118 00:10:26,502 --> 00:10:28,504 So this was a full-blown relationship. 119 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:34,384 A jealous wife is a strong motive, but she was with you. 120 00:10:37,804 --> 00:10:38,805 Lord. 121 00:10:39,598 --> 00:10:42,100 What role am I supposed to serve here? 122 00:10:43,852 --> 00:10:45,145 Friend, 123 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:47,397 confidant 124 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:49,775 or journalist? 125 00:10:51,235 --> 00:10:54,655 I can't bury my friend without any answers. 126 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:09,461 You really don't wanna sit? 127 00:11:10,796 --> 00:11:13,590 Micah's fans make me a little nervous. 128 00:11:14,842 --> 00:11:16,677 I don't mind being near the exit. 129 00:11:25,936 --> 00:11:31,233 Thank you all for joining us in today's celebration of the life of Joshua Keith. 130 00:11:32,109 --> 00:11:37,614 In order to free our grief, we must release our minds. 131 00:11:38,824 --> 00:11:40,033 Close your eyes. 132 00:11:41,785 --> 00:11:43,120 Center your breathing. 133 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:50,043 We're really doing this? 134 00:11:53,338 --> 00:11:54,339 Yeah. 135 00:12:10,731 --> 00:12:13,483 Ingram! Ingram! 136 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,834 Grief lines up memories like dominoes. 137 00:12:33,921 --> 00:12:36,924 "This happened," grief tells us. 138 00:12:37,674 --> 00:12:39,051 "Then that." 139 00:12:39,134 --> 00:12:44,223 Until you have a series of tidy narratives. 140 00:12:46,892 --> 00:12:48,143 And you roll them... 141 00:12:50,145 --> 00:12:52,648 backwards and forwards. 142 00:12:55,776 --> 00:12:59,571 Trying to make some sense of the... 143 00:13:01,573 --> 00:13:03,575 meaning, the finality... 144 00:13:07,621 --> 00:13:08,997 of death. 145 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,375 We've got you, Micah. 146 00:13:14,753 --> 00:13:16,213 Thank you for your uplift. 147 00:13:18,173 --> 00:13:21,760 Any possible answer just brings up yet another question, 148 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:23,428 and it's an endless loop. 149 00:13:25,931 --> 00:13:28,350 And there's comfort. There's comfort in the memories. 150 00:13:29,643 --> 00:13:31,520 There's comfort in the stories. 151 00:13:32,312 --> 00:13:35,649 But there's no way you can prepare for pain or grief. 152 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:38,235 Life is the preparation. 153 00:13:38,819 --> 00:13:40,153 I'll take your grief, Micah. 154 00:13:41,196 --> 00:13:43,615 No, no, no. No scene in front of the investors. 155 00:13:43,699 --> 00:13:45,492 That's not making a fucking scene? 156 00:13:45,576 --> 00:13:46,994 It's okay. 157 00:13:50,873 --> 00:13:51,874 What's your name? 158 00:13:52,416 --> 00:13:53,417 Ruthie. 159 00:13:54,334 --> 00:13:57,713 Have you had to use our grief protocol for your own journey? 160 00:13:57,796 --> 00:13:58,797 Yes. 161 00:14:00,174 --> 00:14:01,300 For my son. 162 00:14:03,051 --> 00:14:06,722 And when you were taking care of everyone else, who was taking care of you? 163 00:14:07,514 --> 00:14:08,682 No one. 164 00:14:09,183 --> 00:14:11,935 My family tried, but they rushed to move past it, 165 00:14:12,019 --> 00:14:15,439 and they didn't realize they'd left me behind. 166 00:14:19,109 --> 00:14:20,652 I know exactly how you feel. 167 00:14:24,281 --> 00:14:25,449 Joshua... 168 00:14:27,993 --> 00:14:31,205 He wasn't perfect, but he was mine. 169 00:14:32,873 --> 00:14:37,503 And I will take the time to mourn his loss without any judgment. 170 00:14:37,586 --> 00:14:43,258 Though everyone around me wants to judge his work and his life. 171 00:14:52,017 --> 00:14:54,269 Would you like me to show you to one of our recovery rooms? 172 00:14:54,895 --> 00:14:55,979 Yes. 173 00:14:56,605 --> 00:14:57,606 Okay. 174 00:15:00,817 --> 00:15:05,572 Micah always says touch is the most important but ignored sense in grief. 175 00:15:05,656 --> 00:15:09,409 I'm gonna guess she meant the consensual kind of touching. 176 00:15:09,493 --> 00:15:11,537 She saved me when I lost my son. 177 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:14,206 Who's gonna save her? 178 00:15:14,706 --> 00:15:17,251 Micah appreciates your offer, she does. 179 00:15:17,334 --> 00:15:19,461 But she's on her own grief journey at the moment. 180 00:15:22,172 --> 00:15:23,340 But she needs me. 181 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,176 Would you tell her please? 182 00:15:27,719 --> 00:15:29,346 I'm always here for her. 183 00:15:32,766 --> 00:15:33,767 Sure. 184 00:15:36,895 --> 00:15:39,731 What in the world was that? 185 00:15:39,815 --> 00:15:41,149 Oh, my gosh. 186 00:15:45,529 --> 00:15:49,867 Do you need to head into the office? I know you're in the middle of a case. 187 00:15:49,950 --> 00:15:51,910 Nah, don't worry about that. 188 00:15:51,994 --> 00:15:53,370 I'm fine. 189 00:15:54,580 --> 00:15:56,081 Noa and Markus are here. 190 00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:01,670 I'll call you tonight. 191 00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:08,635 Chanel? 192 00:16:09,303 --> 00:16:11,054 Looks like someone made the right decision 193 00:16:11,138 --> 00:16:13,348 to leave real reporting behind for podcasting. 194 00:16:14,141 --> 00:16:16,351 I miss doing actual journalism with you. 195 00:16:16,894 --> 00:16:20,647 I was so sorry to hear your book flopped. 196 00:16:20,731 --> 00:16:24,234 Maybe I can blurb the second printing if it ever gets there. 197 00:16:28,030 --> 00:16:29,907 Sorry, kale makes me bitchy. 198 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:32,201 This isn't what I thought they meant by "open bar." 199 00:16:32,951 --> 00:16:36,163 The day's not over. I'm meeting Bob down at the Baywater. 200 00:16:36,246 --> 00:16:39,917 You know, Joshua loved nothing more than a tacky tourist bar. 201 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,669 I'd love to join. Hear your take on the case. 202 00:16:42,753 --> 00:16:45,297 It won't be sanitized. You'll hear things you wish you hadn't. 203 00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:46,798 I already have. 204 00:16:49,301 --> 00:16:53,639 No, no, no, the Ivar kooks have to be on top of your investigative list. 205 00:16:53,722 --> 00:16:56,683 No doubt about it. You need to get one of them on your show. 206 00:16:57,267 --> 00:16:59,520 You know, on what planet is Micah not involved? 207 00:16:59,603 --> 00:17:01,355 She's creepy. 208 00:17:01,438 --> 00:17:03,440 -Her husband's having an affair. -Stop. 209 00:17:04,273 --> 00:17:05,692 -I'm just saying-- -I mean it. 210 00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:09,695 You know, aside from the alibi, 211 00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:12,449 Micah's known about Joshua's skirt chasing from the beginning. 212 00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:16,369 We all have, except for prim Poppy over here. 213 00:17:16,453 --> 00:17:17,621 He's done this before? 214 00:17:18,288 --> 00:17:21,708 Are you kidding? He called his indiscretions "road treats." 215 00:17:22,751 --> 00:17:23,836 It's an open secret. 216 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:25,337 You wouldn't have to dig very much 217 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:27,881 to find one of his past treats for your podcast. 218 00:17:28,423 --> 00:17:30,467 Boys are new. Cheating's not. 219 00:17:30,551 --> 00:17:32,886 If you're doing the story, do it right. 220 00:17:32,970 --> 00:17:36,682 Like Joshua would've done before Micah got her claws into him. 221 00:17:36,765 --> 00:17:40,686 Do not let her kill what's left of your journalistic integrity. 222 00:17:44,565 --> 00:17:46,024 No, please. 223 00:17:47,401 --> 00:17:49,653 Don't stop on my account, Bobby. 224 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:53,657 Tell me more about what I've corrupted and killed. 225 00:17:54,449 --> 00:17:57,452 You can't pretend that he wasn't diminished in recent years. 226 00:17:58,078 --> 00:18:00,789 Eclipsed by all your fame, success. 227 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:05,919 Not so diminished that you didn't approach him about partnering on a documentary. 228 00:18:06,003 --> 00:18:07,754 I was trying to help. 229 00:18:07,838 --> 00:18:10,883 There wasn't a hard news outlet that would touch him anymore. 230 00:18:10,966 --> 00:18:13,760 Yeah, is that what he told you or what you assumed? 231 00:18:14,928 --> 00:18:18,891 I'm starting to understand why you're the only one here without a Pulitzer. 232 00:18:18,974 --> 00:18:21,351 Let's get outta here. 233 00:18:22,769 --> 00:18:25,022 He's always been such a prick. 234 00:19:18,992 --> 00:19:20,077 Damn it. 235 00:19:29,336 --> 00:19:30,712 Oh, shit. 236 00:19:32,714 --> 00:19:33,715 Come on. 237 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:36,426 Come on. Come on. Come on. 238 00:20:03,745 --> 00:20:08,584 We need to talk about what I can and cannot air on the podcast. 239 00:20:08,667 --> 00:20:09,668 Air it all. 240 00:20:10,627 --> 00:20:17,009 I've spent an entire career encouraging radical acceptance and transparency. 241 00:20:18,677 --> 00:20:20,137 Can't change the rules now. 242 00:20:22,681 --> 00:20:24,474 Look what I got back today. 243 00:20:27,686 --> 00:20:30,772 The Victorians had mourning jewelry. 244 00:20:32,482 --> 00:20:34,526 Is that why you asked for a lock of his hair? 245 00:20:35,152 --> 00:20:36,153 Yeah. 246 00:20:37,112 --> 00:20:39,573 I wanted the white over black 247 00:20:39,656 --> 00:20:43,076 indicating that he was unmarried at the time of his death. 248 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,244 Micah. 249 00:20:44,912 --> 00:20:48,415 Seems appropriate, right? Dying in the arms of another man. 250 00:20:49,708 --> 00:20:52,169 But the jeweler talked me out of it. 251 00:20:52,836 --> 00:20:54,755 Did you know about his cheating? 252 00:21:02,721 --> 00:21:06,517 Three late-stage miscarriages takes its toll. 253 00:21:08,644 --> 00:21:11,271 I was proud of the idea of being strong. 254 00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:13,524 It was very seductive. 255 00:21:15,609 --> 00:21:17,277 You know, being the woman who could... 256 00:21:19,988 --> 00:21:21,323 bear all the weight. 257 00:21:23,659 --> 00:21:24,952 But... 258 00:21:26,328 --> 00:21:27,454 I couldn't. 259 00:21:30,791 --> 00:21:31,959 We grew apart. 260 00:21:36,004 --> 00:21:37,089 He strayed. 261 00:21:39,424 --> 00:21:41,051 And I turned a blind eye. 262 00:21:42,469 --> 00:21:45,889 It hurt for a long time, and then it didn't. 263 00:21:48,225 --> 00:21:50,853 And when we finally came up for air, 264 00:21:50,936 --> 00:21:54,523 we were both in a very different place. 265 00:21:58,151 --> 00:21:59,528 Why didn't you leave? 266 00:22:00,696 --> 00:22:02,489 I did not want to. 267 00:22:03,866 --> 00:22:05,158 I loved him. 268 00:22:06,577 --> 00:22:08,078 And I knew he'd be back. 269 00:22:10,163 --> 00:22:11,248 One day. 270 00:22:48,619 --> 00:22:51,455 Hey, Frank. You still need relief on your shift? 271 00:22:53,415 --> 00:22:54,833 Route C on Piedmont. 272 00:22:57,044 --> 00:22:58,212 All right. I'm on my way. 273 00:23:08,639 --> 00:23:10,641 You sure about doing this story? 274 00:23:13,101 --> 00:23:16,063 I'm fine. I'm fine. 275 00:23:17,356 --> 00:23:19,942 What about you? You gonna be able to handle Daddy? 276 00:23:20,859 --> 00:23:22,611 I just got called into work. 277 00:23:24,821 --> 00:23:26,156 You're the baby. 278 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:28,909 Used to being taken care of. 279 00:23:28,992 --> 00:23:31,995 Just tell me if it's too much. 280 00:23:41,255 --> 00:23:42,422 It's too much. 281 00:23:48,804 --> 00:23:49,888 Okay. 282 00:23:52,975 --> 00:23:56,979 So why don't we sit down with Desiree and Lillian 283 00:23:57,062 --> 00:23:58,730 and find out what you can do? 284 00:23:59,982 --> 00:24:01,733 I knew there was something wrong. 285 00:24:02,901 --> 00:24:04,236 We all did. 286 00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:06,488 Even when he said there wasn't. 287 00:24:11,326 --> 00:24:13,370 I can't be crying before work. I got a long shift today. 288 00:24:14,288 --> 00:24:15,289 Okay. 289 00:24:19,334 --> 00:24:20,377 What? 290 00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:27,217 Noa let me listen to some of the segments for this week's episode. 291 00:24:28,218 --> 00:24:31,805 About getting Joshua's case reopened. 292 00:24:32,472 --> 00:24:35,017 -And? -That boy killed with Joshua, 293 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,518 he had a life and a story too. 294 00:24:36,602 --> 00:24:37,895 Why aren't you talking about him? 295 00:24:37,978 --> 00:24:40,939 Because I don't know how he fits into the motive yet. 296 00:24:41,607 --> 00:24:45,903 And why expose his family other than what's absolutely necessary? 297 00:24:45,986 --> 00:24:47,696 Like you did to me. 298 00:24:50,365 --> 00:24:52,618 That weighs on me every day, Cydie. 299 00:24:52,701 --> 00:24:54,786 Still gives me nightmares. 300 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,080 But don't erase that boy. 301 00:25:03,712 --> 00:25:05,464 Get in. Watch your head. 302 00:25:08,008 --> 00:25:09,092 Gotta take these out. 303 00:25:11,261 --> 00:25:14,014 Hold still. Put your hand flat. Look at me. To the right. 304 00:25:34,576 --> 00:25:35,911 Mrs. Parnell. 305 00:25:39,957 --> 00:25:42,042 I am so sorry for your loss. 306 00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:44,628 These were my mother's favorite. 307 00:25:45,128 --> 00:25:47,172 And I still get them when I miss her. 308 00:25:47,923 --> 00:25:49,007 That's sweet. 309 00:25:49,925 --> 00:25:50,926 Thank you. 310 00:25:52,511 --> 00:25:56,348 Inspector Aames told us not to cooperate with you. 311 00:25:56,431 --> 00:25:57,850 What changed your mind? 312 00:25:59,017 --> 00:26:00,686 He started ignoring us. 313 00:26:02,104 --> 00:26:05,566 Said the case was closed, and we just couldn't accept the result. 314 00:26:05,649 --> 00:26:08,110 Our son may not have been a celebrity, but he mattered. 315 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:13,073 I watched a program last night where they talked about the case for 20 minutes, 316 00:26:13,156 --> 00:26:15,033 they didn't say Drew's name once. 317 00:26:15,659 --> 00:26:18,996 You know, he deferred a year at USC to do a fellowship. 318 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:23,375 Said he wanted practical experience working with a real artist. 319 00:26:24,209 --> 00:26:27,629 Joshua's associates weren't aware of any fellowships. 320 00:26:29,464 --> 00:26:31,175 Why would he tell us that then? 321 00:26:39,141 --> 00:26:40,684 Mr. and Mrs. Turney, 322 00:26:40,767 --> 00:26:42,853 thank you for being so generous with your time. 323 00:26:42,936 --> 00:26:44,188 This is a great start. 324 00:26:44,271 --> 00:26:46,899 -May I call with follow-ups? -Please. 325 00:26:46,982 --> 00:26:48,817 Of course. Thank you. 326 00:26:48,901 --> 00:26:50,235 Hey, you two. 327 00:26:51,278 --> 00:26:52,321 Hi. 328 00:27:56,093 --> 00:27:57,261 Is that evidence? 329 00:28:00,848 --> 00:28:02,724 Micah asked me to stop by and grab a few things 330 00:28:02,808 --> 00:28:04,184 before her livestream tonight. 331 00:28:05,686 --> 00:28:08,313 Did she ask you to attend Drew's shiva too? 332 00:28:09,231 --> 00:28:10,524 That's what I do. 333 00:28:10,607 --> 00:28:12,484 That's what we all do at Shelter. 334 00:28:12,568 --> 00:28:16,113 We take care of things for her, so she can continue to dazzle. 335 00:28:16,196 --> 00:28:19,324 Build her castle into the sky. Brick by brick. 336 00:28:21,076 --> 00:28:22,286 You sound angry. 337 00:28:23,453 --> 00:28:25,289 At Shelter, we prefer grief-struck. 338 00:29:00,282 --> 00:29:01,742 What were you doing? 339 00:29:32,981 --> 00:29:36,151 -Hello? -Esta. Yes. 340 00:29:36,235 --> 00:29:39,112 Poppy Parnell again. Do you have a minute? 341 00:29:39,696 --> 00:29:41,323 Did you find something? 342 00:29:42,074 --> 00:29:43,951 Something promising. 343 00:29:44,785 --> 00:29:49,164 But it may be a little painful to discuss. 344 00:29:51,959 --> 00:29:53,418 Was Drew adopted? 345 00:30:04,304 --> 00:30:06,723 Did he ever try to find his biological parents? 346 00:30:06,807 --> 00:30:07,891 No. 347 00:30:07,975 --> 00:30:09,726 He knew that would devastate Arthur. 348 00:30:12,896 --> 00:30:14,231 He was our son. 349 00:30:14,314 --> 00:30:17,276 No, no one is questioning that. 350 00:30:20,612 --> 00:30:21,697 Thanks, Esta. 351 00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:24,491 -I'll be back in touch soon, okay? -Thank you. 352 00:30:47,139 --> 00:30:49,433 How do we bottle and sell that gut of yours? 353 00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:51,101 So the blood types at the crime scene match? 354 00:30:51,185 --> 00:30:54,771 Both Joshua and Drew were AB negative. The rarest type. 355 00:30:56,481 --> 00:30:58,859 Are we really about to top murderous twins? 356 00:30:58,942 --> 00:31:01,486 We're not using this in the podcast. 357 00:31:01,570 --> 00:31:05,657 She's barely holding it together. This is humiliating enough to break her. 358 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,703 Are you joking? Micah gave her permission, no limitations. 359 00:31:09,786 --> 00:31:13,582 It blows the official murder-suicide theory of the case out of the water. 360 00:31:13,665 --> 00:31:15,626 Someone else will use it if we don't. 361 00:31:15,709 --> 00:31:18,921 So let them live with the repercussions of their recklessness. 362 00:31:20,214 --> 00:31:21,590 What? 363 00:31:21,673 --> 00:31:23,926 You don't have ownership over guilt. 364 00:31:24,009 --> 00:31:25,344 So, why won't you back me? 365 00:31:25,427 --> 00:31:27,095 Because I don't believe in half measures. 366 00:31:27,179 --> 00:31:28,555 Either we do this, or we don't. 367 00:31:28,639 --> 00:31:30,432 It's my show, Noa. 368 00:31:37,481 --> 00:31:38,690 What's our status? 369 00:31:38,774 --> 00:31:41,568 The feed is ready. We'll be live in 57 countries. 370 00:31:42,819 --> 00:31:43,820 No big deal. 371 00:31:48,283 --> 00:31:49,618 You think she's got this? 372 00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:52,204 Just curious. 373 00:32:02,923 --> 00:32:04,591 -Hey. -Hi. 374 00:32:05,551 --> 00:32:08,345 Inversions. It's just lymphatic drainage. 375 00:32:09,179 --> 00:32:11,014 Mental reinvigoration. 376 00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,768 Circulation. 377 00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:18,063 So, how does it feel to be back in the office? 378 00:32:18,689 --> 00:32:23,068 Is literally being upside down a potent enough metaphor? 379 00:32:23,569 --> 00:32:25,863 It's too soon for you to be doing events. 380 00:32:26,446 --> 00:32:29,408 Yeah, well, my virtual fans can't wait a week for me to grieve. 381 00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:32,661 We've been promoting and hyping this event. 382 00:32:32,744 --> 00:32:34,830 If I cancel, I'll lose my investors. 383 00:32:37,791 --> 00:32:39,293 I went to Drew's shiva. 384 00:32:41,545 --> 00:32:43,881 And then I went to the studio. 385 00:32:47,384 --> 00:32:52,264 Joshua and Drew had a slew of identical genetic features. 386 00:32:55,726 --> 00:32:57,811 I don't think Drew was his lover. 387 00:32:58,854 --> 00:33:00,355 I think he was his son. 388 00:33:03,775 --> 00:33:04,860 I'm so sorry. I-- 389 00:33:04,943 --> 00:33:07,988 I'm not using any of this in the podcast, 390 00:33:08,071 --> 00:33:10,824 and we can suspend it entirely if you prefer. 391 00:33:16,163 --> 00:33:17,164 Micah. 392 00:33:32,596 --> 00:33:35,349 Micah's talk is about to begin. May I show you outside? 393 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,686 Not just yet. Thank you. 394 00:33:41,563 --> 00:33:44,733 Sons of Ivar had nothing to do with Drew and Josh's death, 395 00:33:44,816 --> 00:33:46,485 like I said the first time. 396 00:33:46,568 --> 00:33:48,237 You trying to convince me or yourself? 397 00:33:48,862 --> 00:33:50,072 But it got me thinking. 398 00:33:50,656 --> 00:33:53,867 Shelter, there's a lot of parallels, lot of similarities. 399 00:33:53,951 --> 00:33:54,993 That's a stretch. 400 00:33:55,077 --> 00:33:57,454 Immunity blaster? No, you don't want one? 401 00:33:57,538 --> 00:34:00,207 Or you don't believe in its restorative powers? 402 00:34:00,791 --> 00:34:02,042 A lot of people here do. 403 00:34:02,125 --> 00:34:05,629 Is there a purpose for this visit? Because if not, you know, I... 404 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,882 You know Jasper Gaines? 405 00:34:08,966 --> 00:34:10,967 My daddy's old running buddy? 406 00:34:11,051 --> 00:34:12,678 What do you remember about him? 407 00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:16,264 He was family, around all the time. 408 00:34:16,348 --> 00:34:19,309 He was at all of our birthdays growing up. Why? 409 00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:23,438 Well, he killed seven people from 1984 to 1989. 410 00:34:25,274 --> 00:34:28,860 For years, I was part of a task force studying cults and fringe groups. 411 00:34:28,944 --> 00:34:32,531 Yeah, he's what we call in the cult world, a follower. 412 00:34:33,907 --> 00:34:36,243 See, the thing about these groups is that its members, 413 00:34:36,326 --> 00:34:38,036 they usually fall into two categories. 414 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,206 The loyal followers and the charismatic, narcissistic leaders. 415 00:34:43,458 --> 00:34:45,335 Shreve, Micah. 416 00:34:47,337 --> 00:34:48,797 They fit the profile. 417 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,007 -You're so full of shit. -Maybe, 418 00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:54,511 but as long as you're poking around my case, 419 00:34:54,594 --> 00:34:55,971 making a mockery of detective work... 420 00:34:56,889 --> 00:34:58,307 Reopen the case. 421 00:35:34,718 --> 00:35:38,514 These are pieces of what I once called home. 422 00:35:39,264 --> 00:35:42,226 They like to tell us, us women, 423 00:35:43,185 --> 00:35:45,062 to keep our house in order. 424 00:35:45,854 --> 00:35:48,106 But how in the hell are we supposed to keep it in order 425 00:35:48,190 --> 00:35:50,067 when we were dealt a bum house? 426 00:35:57,908 --> 00:36:01,119 The first brick of any house... 427 00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:05,290 is trust. 428 00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:13,632 Trust in what you are building and what you can withstand. 429 00:36:16,635 --> 00:36:18,887 For me, that represented my bedroom. 430 00:36:24,017 --> 00:36:25,185 The second brick... 431 00:36:44,204 --> 00:36:47,958 Keep your house in order. 432 00:36:49,585 --> 00:36:52,754 Keep your house in order. 433 00:36:53,338 --> 00:36:56,258 Maybe someone should have told my husband that. 434 00:36:58,468 --> 00:36:59,803 I kept him solvent. 435 00:36:59,887 --> 00:37:05,100 I stood by him when his work defied everything I stand for. 436 00:37:05,184 --> 00:37:06,185 And for what? 437 00:37:07,186 --> 00:37:09,313 So he could hide a son from me? 438 00:37:09,396 --> 00:37:11,773 So I could stand up here and explain to everybody 439 00:37:11,857 --> 00:37:14,943 why my husband was murdered protecting his child? 440 00:37:17,779 --> 00:37:19,740 What kind of safe shelter is that? 441 00:37:20,365 --> 00:37:22,534 At least when I was on the street, I could-- 442 00:37:24,661 --> 00:37:28,373 I knew better than to expect anything from anyone! 443 00:37:28,457 --> 00:37:30,083 Micah. Micah. 444 00:37:30,584 --> 00:37:31,668 Micah. 445 00:37:35,297 --> 00:37:36,548 Cut the feed. 446 00:38:28,725 --> 00:38:30,310 It's quitting time. 447 00:38:30,686 --> 00:38:32,604 Make sure you sweep for lost items. 448 00:38:32,688 --> 00:38:35,274 I don't want that woman calling and harassing me again. 449 00:38:36,275 --> 00:38:40,487 Patricia will find her excuse to talk to a supervisor, believe that. 450 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,079 A bitch is getting old. 451 00:38:52,833 --> 00:38:54,251 Okay. 452 00:39:00,215 --> 00:39:01,633 Where is that... 453 00:39:17,065 --> 00:39:19,109 You scared the shit outta me! 454 00:39:19,193 --> 00:39:22,070 You can't be in here. The depot is private property. 455 00:39:22,154 --> 00:39:24,573 I'm sorry, I dozed off in the back here. 456 00:39:24,656 --> 00:39:26,074 I missed my stop. 457 00:39:31,455 --> 00:39:32,998 You do give a smooth ride. 458 00:39:34,166 --> 00:39:35,584 Not if I can't get off. 459 00:39:37,503 --> 00:39:38,754 That an invitation? 460 00:39:39,922 --> 00:39:41,006 Step off the bus. 461 00:40:16,416 --> 00:40:17,918 There was a guy on my bus. 462 00:40:18,502 --> 00:40:19,670 What's the description? 463 00:40:19,753 --> 00:40:22,297 Blue hoodie, blue jeans. 464 00:40:22,381 --> 00:40:26,176 Like, he's trying to scare me. This dude is tall as fuck. 465 00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:27,469 We'll search the terminal. 466 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:29,721 Jesus. 467 00:41:33,535 --> 00:41:35,454 You staying strong, baby girl? 468 00:41:38,373 --> 00:41:39,708 Well, you still standing. 469 00:41:43,837 --> 00:41:46,590 If you go online, don't scroll down. 470 00:41:50,844 --> 00:41:51,845 Yeah. 471 00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:39,828 What's going on? 472 00:43:43,332 --> 00:43:44,750 Are you Poppy Parnell? 473 00:43:44,833 --> 00:43:46,043 Who's asking? 474 00:43:47,669 --> 00:43:48,795 I am. 475 00:43:51,715 --> 00:43:52,925 You've been served. 476 00:44:04,561 --> 00:44:08,899 Alana Cave is suing me for the wrongful death of Owen Cave.