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[guard] Open two.
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Move forward.
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-[guard 2] You want him to come this way?-Yeah. Right there.
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[radio chatter, faint]
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I got this one.
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Yes, sir.
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I got a thing for celebrities.
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[patting down]
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Kuvney will tell you who this is for.
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He's good to go.
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[sighs]
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You okay?
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The code worked.
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I translated the diary.
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It's, uh, not easy to hear.
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Why?
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Chuck was molesting Lanie.
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What?
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No.
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She never told you?
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No.
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Did you ever suspect anything like that?
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Wait, so you...
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think that she killed Chuck because of it?
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I think that Erin didto protect her daughter.
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And I think that she coached Lanieinto identifying you.
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[sighs]
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Erin always hated me.
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I never knew why.
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[inhales]
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Rivalry with my mother.
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Did she act suspiciously before the partyin the weeks leading up?
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She wasn't really around.
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She was gone for, like, a monththat September before Halloween.
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A month?
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Yeah.
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[inmates clamoring]
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[Lanie] Warren, I know you hate my guts.
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Maybe you didn't even open this letter.
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You probably chucked itas soon as you saw it was from me.
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I wouldn't blame you.
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Did you see my return address?You know what that means?
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I'm locked up just like you.
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Sometimes knowing thatis the only thing that keeps me going.
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It makes me feel a little better.
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I'm not asking you to be my pen pal.
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I just want you to know that I'm scared.
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That I'm all alone too.
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Sometimes I wish I could be locked awayuntil I die just like you.
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I don't wanna go backto the real world now.
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There's nothing left for me there.
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Now you'll never forget me.
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I wonder if you feel the same.
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I love you. Don't write back.
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Love, Lanie.
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[breathes deeply]
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[Josie] Don't worry, almost there.
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Okay, take it off.
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Ta-da!
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It's our old place.
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Remember?
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Oh, man, I used to dream about this spotwhen I was in New York.
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Which is a little weird 'cause we haven'tbeen here since I was, like, nine.
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But... come on! Sit.
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Wow.
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Well, you have been so supportive
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through whatever this is with Caleb,
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so I've decided to stay for a bit longer.
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You can stay with us.
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Really. For as long as you want.We would love to have you.
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Thanks.
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[chuckles]
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I'll get it.
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[young Lanie] Go away, Josie.
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-[crying]-Josie!
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[Lanie] Josie, are you okay?
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Are you okay?
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-Hey, hey.-Hey. What's up, my ladies of mayhem?
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-[chuckles]-I come bearing gifts.
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And the best kind too:the gift of knowledge.
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Erin Buhrman was arrestedfor drunk driving.
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Hardly a surprise.
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But this is the interesting part.
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Went to court-ordered rehabin August of 1999.
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She got out in September and was homea month before Chuck was murdered.
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Her alibi was that she was drunk andpassed out, slept through the whole thing.
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But if she was fresh outta rehab,
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she might've been sober that nightand lying to the police.
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That's a big "if."
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I know a lot of alcoholics that,as soon as they get out of rehab,
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the first thing they dois head straight to the liquor store.
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So, we visit the rehabto see if that sobriety stuck.
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They found you guilty in absentia,which triggered the arrest warrant,
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but we took care of it.
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-That's it?-That's it.
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Well, I owe you one.
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Maybe I'll take you shopping,spice you up a little bit.
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[chuckles] Can I ask you a questionabout Poppy in foster care?
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-With Miss Shirley?-Yes, who was she exactly?
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Shirley Maxwell.She's one of those neighborhood aunties.
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Poppy stayed with her.
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The three of you were separated?
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Me and Desiree went to Daddy's cousin.
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Poppy was there for a year. She makes itsound like she was breaking rocks for ten.
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-A year?-Mm-hmm.
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Thank you.
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-Need anything?-[door closes]
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Yeah. Get me what you canon a Shirley Maxwell.
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Oakland resident. Around 1979, 1980.
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No problem.
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[Poppy]Trying to figure out clues to a crime
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that happened 19 years ago isn't easy.
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But you know who the unsung heroes are?You.
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The listeners.
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The people out there diggingfor the answers,
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trying to find out the truth.
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[on recording]So how do you help the people stay sober?
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Well, we normally connect themwith a high quality sober coach
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and provide outpatient AA meetings.
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The New Soul Rehab Center won't discloseinformation about past clients.
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Say I'm using Erin Buhrman as an exampleof a type of patient.
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Hmm. Well, for that type of patient,I'd say JoAnna Diaz.
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And that type of patientmight have used JoAnna multiple times
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throughout the years.
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An anonymous source confirmedErin Buhrman stayed at New Soul
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and led us to her sober coach.
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[Poppy]What can you tell me about Erin Buhrman?
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[woman] She was stone-cold soberwhen she called me in a rage
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about her husband making eyesat some neighbor that night,
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but she was on Antabuse.
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[Poppy] What's Antabuse?
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It's a drug that makes you throw upif you drink alcohol.
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-Was she on it the night of the murder?-Mm-hmm.
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If Erin was sober the night of the murder,why did she lie to the police?
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What is Erin hiding?
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And is this the reasonWarren was sent to prison?
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[man grunting]
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[men clamoring]
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[laughing]
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[Kuvney]What the hell are you doing down here?
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Huh?
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Hey.
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[grunts]
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I didn't see anything.I didn't see anything.
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Well, what was there to see?
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Nothing.
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[gasping]
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Who are you... without me?
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Tell me.
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Say it.
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-Nothing.-Uh-huh.
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I'm nothing.
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[grunts]
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[gasping, grunts]
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[gasps]
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[groaning]
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You took me.
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You "protected me."
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Whose face do you think I seewhen I go to bed at night?
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You motherfucker.
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-[groans]-And you call that a "family"?
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[grunts]
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[breathing raggedly]
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[men chattering]
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[chattering continues]
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[chattering grows louder]
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[breathing shakily]
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[chattering continues]
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[knocking]
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Ella, honey, why am I the one in hereputting your toys away?
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'Cause you're the daddy.
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That's right. I'm the daddy. Yeah.
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No. Lanie's not here.
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This is about your mother-in-law,not Lanie.
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I think she's the key to Chuck's murder.
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You're an outsider.You've probably noticed some things.
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I can't help you.
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You want Erin out of your life?
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Your life back with Lanie?
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Then help me fill in the gaps,get closer to Erin.
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Okay.
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We, uh, had to bail her out of jailthe week she came home.
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-What?-She broke into their old house.
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The house they grew up in.
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And, well, the new owners,they called the police.
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[key clattering]
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[door squeaks]
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-Hey.-[man] Yeah?
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-Kuvney?-Ain't see him.
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Where's Kuvney?
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Cave.
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You seen Kuvney around?
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No.
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When was the last time you saw him?
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Uh, yesterday.
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Really?
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You sure?
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Yeah.
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Why?
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-Here we go.-What the hell?
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-It's the O.J. effect. Human nature.-[shouting]
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All of this because of the podcast.
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[shouting continues]
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[man] We bought it four years ago.
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We knew the history going in.It was never a problem for us.
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[man 2] Until your podcast.
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Chuck's office.
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Just show us where you found Erin.
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So, we came home from our dinnerand found her down here.
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She'd snuck in through a bathroom windowthat wasn't connected to our alarm system.
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Yeah. A lot of houses like that.
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This is not the first oneshe's broken into.
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Where exactly was she?
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In here.
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So, what did she do when you found her?
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She laughed and apologized.
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Said that she stopped bybecause she was feeling nostalgic.
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It was creepy as shit.
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-Was there anything missing? Stolen?-Zero.
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Hey, Poppy, check this out.
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Hey, was this like thatbefore she got here?
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-I don't think so.-No.
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[Markus] Hmm.
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She was looking for something.
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The murder weapon?
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Was never found.
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If she was looking for money or jewelry,she would have come after it years ago.
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So she kills Chuck,hides the knife before the cops come,
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goes about her business,
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then comes back for it 'cause she's afraidyou're gonna figure out she did it.
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[Markus]For 20 years nobody's talked about this.
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You mention it on your podcastand now she has to come back.
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Cover her tracks.
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Except she never got it. There was nothingon her when she was arrested.
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This is money, Poppy.
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You gotta work her hard.
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Mmm. Erin won't give me anything.She's too smart for that.
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But she is nervous and impulsive.
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So we get her to make a move.
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[Noa] How?
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We smoke her out.
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Ugh.
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[guard] Check him.
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[alarm blaring]
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[guard on PA]Lockdown. All prisoners, lockdown.
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On the ground.
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[alarm continues blaring]
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[Melanie on phone] Erin suspected,but she suspected any woman
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that came into Chuck's orbit.
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-[Poppy] You believed Erin's alibi?-[Melanie laughs]
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[phone ringing]
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Yeah, hello? Hello?
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Ms. Buhrman, this is Tim.
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I think we foundwhat you were looking for.
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Why don't you come by the house?
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[guard] Let's go. Yep.
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Yo, that's for you, man.
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[inmates chattering]
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Hey, it's, uh, Warren.
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I need to see you...
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before it's too late.
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Please come.
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Let's hear it.
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We found what you were looking forwhen you broke in here.
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Found it deep in the old furnace.
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00:19:44,476 --> 00:19:45,477
Yeah?
267
00:19:45,561 --> 00:19:48,313
Five grand and it's yoursor we go to the police.
268
00:19:49,064 --> 00:19:50,315
I'd like to see it first.
269
00:19:50,399 --> 00:19:52,192
[Tim] When we see the cash.
270
00:19:52,276 --> 00:19:53,861
Describe it to me, asshole.
271
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,780
It was a knife.
272
00:19:57,281 --> 00:19:59,658
[laughs] Nice try.
273
00:20:01,535 --> 00:20:04,329
-[Tim on phone] She just walked away.-You did exactly what Poppy said to?
274
00:20:04,413 --> 00:20:05,497
Yes.
275
00:20:05,581 --> 00:20:07,666
Thank you, guys. You were perfect.
276
00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:10,711
She didn't bite.
277
00:20:11,295 --> 00:20:15,424
I never expected her to.But the woman is definitely guilty.
278
00:20:15,507 --> 00:20:16,508
Based on what?
279
00:20:16,592 --> 00:20:20,262
She showed up. And now we knowwe're not looking for a knife.
280
00:21:10,479 --> 00:21:11,605
Why'd you call me?
281
00:21:12,481 --> 00:21:14,650
I didn't think you'd actually show.
282
00:21:18,654 --> 00:21:20,239
I needed to see you.
283
00:21:23,408 --> 00:21:24,618
Get rid of it.
284
00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:26,620
Get rid of what?
285
00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:28,789
Hating you.
286
00:21:30,749 --> 00:21:32,501
I'm gonna die in here.
287
00:21:41,426 --> 00:21:42,719
[sighs]
288
00:21:42,803 --> 00:21:44,471
Do you remember this?
289
00:21:48,684 --> 00:21:50,060
I didn't think you got it.
290
00:21:50,894 --> 00:21:52,396
I know it by heart.
291
00:21:57,526 --> 00:22:00,320
Only one thing made me keep it.
292
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,616
Is it true?
293
00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,827
Is what true?
294
00:22:07,411 --> 00:22:09,580
You told me you loved me.
295
00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:13,292
Was it true?
296
00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:19,548
Warren...
297
00:22:19,631 --> 00:22:23,677
"I don't want to go backto the real world now.
298
00:22:25,971 --> 00:22:28,265
There's nothing left for me there.
299
00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:33,312
[breathes deeply]
300
00:22:33,395 --> 00:22:36,023
I wonder if you feel the same.
301
00:22:37,441 --> 00:22:40,903
I love you. Don't write back.
302
00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:45,324
Love, Lanie."
303
00:22:47,993 --> 00:22:52,331
Just tell me. Please.
304
00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:56,710
Was it true?
305
00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:59,046
Nothing I say...
306
00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:02,257
can help you.
307
00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:08,722
Warren...
308
00:23:09,932 --> 00:23:11,433
Don't.
309
00:23:13,977 --> 00:23:18,649
"If you live through this with me..."
310
00:23:24,029 --> 00:23:26,532
"...I swear that I would die for you."
311
00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:45,717
You should've told me...
312
00:23:47,886 --> 00:23:49,555
about your father.
313
00:23:50,347 --> 00:23:52,057
What he was doing to you.
314
00:23:58,981 --> 00:24:03,610
So you think you--You think you know everything?
315
00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:08,490
You think you have the missing pieceto the whole mystery now?
316
00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:09,575
Lanie.
317
00:24:14,329 --> 00:24:19,126
If I had known,I would've killed him myself.
318
00:24:30,721 --> 00:24:32,181
Warren.
319
00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:35,184
You know...
320
00:24:36,894 --> 00:24:41,899
you're still the only girlI have ever kissed.
321
00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:51,783
You are still--
322
00:24:56,496 --> 00:24:59,833
You are still the only boy I ever loved.
323
00:24:59,917 --> 00:25:04,046
[rock ballad playing]
324
00:25:04,129 --> 00:25:05,130
Okay.
325
00:25:08,175 --> 00:25:10,385
Then why did you lie about me?
326
00:25:19,019 --> 00:25:21,480
Lanie. Lanie, Lanie. Lanie!
327
00:25:36,161 --> 00:25:38,789
[ballad continues playing]
328
00:25:46,755 --> 00:25:48,048
[keys jingling]
329
00:26:00,477 --> 00:26:02,938
[breathing rapidly]
330
00:26:08,026 --> 00:26:10,195
[sobbing]
331
00:26:52,613 --> 00:26:54,198
Siri, call Desiree.
332
00:26:54,281 --> 00:26:55,574
[Siri] Calling Desiree.
333
00:26:56,325 --> 00:26:57,701
[Desiree] Hey, Poppy.
334
00:26:57,784 --> 00:27:01,079
Hey. Did I leave Mama's fanafter church on Sunday?
335
00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:03,123
Uh, I haven't seen any.
336
00:27:04,124 --> 00:27:06,585
Okay. Thanks.
337
00:27:07,961 --> 00:27:10,047
[footsteps]
338
00:27:13,884 --> 00:27:14,885
Don't lecture me.
339
00:27:14,968 --> 00:27:18,639
Honestly, Mom,I just came to check the mail,
340
00:27:19,473 --> 00:27:21,183
and I find you drunk on the floor.
341
00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:26,188
I do really wanna be kind here,so just don't make me regret it.
342
00:27:26,271 --> 00:27:27,523
You sound like your sister.
343
00:27:30,192 --> 00:27:34,696
Lanie told me that Caleb left you.What will you do?
344
00:27:34,780 --> 00:27:36,240
I don't know yet.
345
00:27:36,823 --> 00:27:38,367
I tried to protect you.
346
00:27:41,495 --> 00:27:43,705
[flames crackling]
347
00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:07,312
I think I'm gonna stay in Menlo Parkfor a while.
348
00:28:07,855 --> 00:28:08,856
Good.
349
00:28:10,774 --> 00:28:12,818
It'll be good for your sister.
350
00:28:13,402 --> 00:28:15,571
Maybe I could come home for Christmas.
351
00:28:15,654 --> 00:28:16,697
You're leaving?
352
00:28:18,073 --> 00:28:19,408
It's time.
353
00:28:20,576 --> 00:28:22,077
Why don't you stay?
354
00:28:23,495 --> 00:28:27,291
You could take the timeto clean yourself up, you know?
355
00:28:27,374 --> 00:28:29,293
Um, start over.
356
00:28:35,424 --> 00:28:40,512
I left you guys for 17 years 'causeI thought that that would make me better.
357
00:28:41,805 --> 00:28:45,851
You know, that I could escape the wreckageof what happened to our family, but...
358
00:28:47,978 --> 00:28:50,355
No matter how many miles I put between us,
359
00:28:50,439 --> 00:28:55,152
I am still just that scared,stupid teenager.
360
00:28:57,905 --> 00:28:59,406
I'm no different.
361
00:29:03,952 --> 00:29:06,997
None of us ever left that hallwaywhere Dad died.
362
00:29:09,166 --> 00:29:10,167
Josie.
363
00:29:15,088 --> 00:29:17,341
I've said good-byeto enough people in my life.
364
00:29:17,424 --> 00:29:18,842
I can't do it anymore.
365
00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:20,969
Neither can you.
366
00:29:21,553 --> 00:29:22,804
Stay.
367
00:29:27,017 --> 00:29:28,519
Please.
368
00:29:30,062 --> 00:29:32,064
[crying]
369
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,278
-[knocking]-Yeah. What's up?
370
00:29:38,362 --> 00:29:41,532
That woman you asked me to look into,Shirley Maxwell--
371
00:29:41,615 --> 00:29:44,826
-Find anything?-Yeah. She was a seamstress by trade.
372
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:47,663
Took in foster kids from the neighborhood,sort of, unofficially.
373
00:29:47,746 --> 00:29:48,789
Still have a local address?
374
00:29:48,872 --> 00:29:51,667
She died in 1986. Drowned in the bay.
375
00:29:52,292 --> 00:29:55,170
There's a list of children that werein her care at the time of her death.
376
00:29:55,254 --> 00:29:58,465
And, um, one of them was...
377
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:59,883
Poppy Scoville.
378
00:30:01,802 --> 00:30:03,303
[doorbell rings]
379
00:30:08,433 --> 00:30:10,435
Come in. Come in.
380
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:11,562
[door closes]
381
00:30:13,397 --> 00:30:15,691
I'd get up to greet you, but...
382
00:30:17,651 --> 00:30:19,653
like I said on the phone, I'm...
383
00:30:22,364 --> 00:30:23,907
I'm dying. [chuckles]
384
00:30:29,788 --> 00:30:31,415
Is that for me?
385
00:30:32,541 --> 00:30:35,043
Of course it is. I know what you like.
386
00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:53,353
I gotta say, I'm surprised you... called.
387
00:30:53,437 --> 00:31:00,068
Addicts make amendsand dying people clean their slates.
388
00:31:08,869 --> 00:31:11,246
Your stuff looks different in here.
389
00:31:11,330 --> 00:31:13,123
Divorce is great for downsizing.
390
00:31:13,207 --> 00:31:15,417
[chuckling]
391
00:31:15,501 --> 00:31:18,045
We used to bethe queens of the neighborhood.
392
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,673
Look at us now.
393
00:31:21,757 --> 00:31:24,468
Yeah. They used to envy us. [laughs]
394
00:31:25,719 --> 00:31:28,055
Too bad we didn't know how good we had it.
395
00:31:29,139 --> 00:31:32,518
I did... until you fucked my husband.
396
00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:39,775
Yeah.
397
00:31:44,071 --> 00:31:46,156
Cancer is truly a monster.
398
00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:51,203
Being sick forces youto confront everything about yourself.
399
00:31:51,286 --> 00:31:52,538
The good, the bad.
400
00:31:52,621 --> 00:31:56,667
Sleeping with Chuckwas definitely the bad.
401
00:31:59,545 --> 00:32:02,047
Doesn't sound like much of an apology.
402
00:32:06,301 --> 00:32:08,720
That's as close as you're gonna get.
403
00:32:12,516 --> 00:32:14,977
I don't know what the hell I'm doing here.
404
00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:20,232
So, good luckwith the rest of your... amends.
405
00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:23,777
You know, it was very purifying for meto face my demons.
406
00:32:23,861 --> 00:32:25,529
You might wanna do it too.
407
00:32:25,612 --> 00:32:28,448
Coming clean, baring your soul.
408
00:32:28,532 --> 00:32:30,242
[Poppy] Answering a few questions.
409
00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:31,535
What the hell? What the hell--
410
00:32:31,618 --> 00:32:34,705
I know that you lied about my son.
411
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:37,249
You are the reason he is in prison.
412
00:32:37,332 --> 00:32:39,710
Just tell the goddamn truth!
413
00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:43,630
That's it.
414
00:32:50,762 --> 00:32:52,681
You knew Chuck was abusing Lanie.
415
00:32:52,764 --> 00:32:54,099
-What?-That's motive.
416
00:32:54,808 --> 00:32:56,643
-Who in the world told you that?-Lanie.
417
00:32:56,727 --> 00:32:59,104
She doesn't know what she's talking about.
418
00:32:59,188 --> 00:33:02,691
She's all turned aroundfrom your fucking harassment.
419
00:33:02,774 --> 00:33:03,984
Plus the Antabuse.
420
00:33:04,067 --> 00:33:06,069
You were sober the night of the murder.
421
00:33:06,153 --> 00:33:07,821
That's your alibi blown.
422
00:33:07,905 --> 00:33:10,199
Add in the fact that you were huntingfor the murder weapon,
423
00:33:10,282 --> 00:33:11,700
which you've wielded yourself.
424
00:33:11,783 --> 00:33:13,202
What murder weapon? You got nothing.
425
00:33:13,285 --> 00:33:14,786
Actually, I do.
426
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:17,497
I know you were in rehaba month before the murder.
427
00:33:17,581 --> 00:33:19,875
See, I think it was toughfor you in there.
428
00:33:19,958 --> 00:33:22,085
Alone and sober with the knowledge
429
00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:24,213
of what your husbandwas doing to your daughter.
430
00:33:24,296 --> 00:33:27,007
Dying over the fact that it all happenedunder your roof
431
00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:28,675
while you were stuck in the bottle.
432
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:29,676
Fuck you.
433
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,805
I spoke to your sober coach.I know you tried to do the right thing.
434
00:33:34,223 --> 00:33:36,391
I did not kill my husband--
435
00:33:36,475 --> 00:33:38,268
I know you did it, Erin.
436
00:33:38,352 --> 00:33:42,189
I'm finally putting the pieces togetherand the picture looks bad for you.
437
00:33:42,272 --> 00:33:43,440
But I can help.
438
00:33:43,524 --> 00:33:48,111
All those articles I wrote 19 years agogot him tried as an adult.
439
00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:50,197
My words have power.
440
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,034
Now, do you want that powerwielded against you or to help you?
441
00:33:54,117 --> 00:33:55,452
You're insane.
442
00:33:55,536 --> 00:33:58,163
I'm doing the next episodewith or without you.
443
00:33:58,247 --> 00:34:02,501
But I'm the difference between the worldseeing you as a cold-blooded murderer
444
00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:05,796
or a loving mother who would do anythingto protect her daughter.
445
00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:12,177
All right.
446
00:34:13,929 --> 00:34:15,514
All right.
447
00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:17,933
I'll give you your interview.
448
00:34:18,725 --> 00:34:20,643
But I need some time.
449
00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:22,728
I'll meet you at Susan's tomorrow morning.
450
00:34:24,815 --> 00:34:26,817
[engine starts]
451
00:34:31,655 --> 00:34:32,697
Shit.
452
00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:50,966
Get outta here, man.
453
00:35:02,978 --> 00:35:06,690
CO Hill had somevery interesting information for me.
454
00:35:07,274 --> 00:35:09,318
It seems he gave you a little present.
455
00:35:09,401 --> 00:35:11,778
Told you to wait for orders from Kuvney.
456
00:35:13,071 --> 00:35:16,033
Then Kuvney's the onefound gutted in the corner.
457
00:35:20,245 --> 00:35:22,831
Look, that doesn't prove anything.
458
00:35:22,915 --> 00:35:25,334
I'm not a court. I don't need proof.
459
00:35:27,628 --> 00:35:29,421
[guard] Hey. Hey, hey!
460
00:35:30,214 --> 00:35:32,799
Hill, what are you doing?Get your boys back in.
461
00:35:36,011 --> 00:35:38,180
Hey, horse-fucker.
462
00:35:38,263 --> 00:35:39,264
-What?-[spits]
463
00:35:44,269 --> 00:35:45,479
Come on.
464
00:35:45,562 --> 00:35:48,440
Let's go. Get him in here. Let's go.
465
00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:09,086
Hey, Daddy.
466
00:36:10,504 --> 00:36:11,713
Hey, sweetheart.
467
00:36:14,424 --> 00:36:15,968
Your mother's favorite.
468
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,346
Tulips?I thought daisies were her favorite.
469
00:36:19,429 --> 00:36:21,598
I used to pick themon the way home from school.
470
00:36:22,057 --> 00:36:24,184
That's why she told youthey were her favorite.
471
00:36:25,435 --> 00:36:27,646
Did she ever like them at all?
472
00:36:28,397 --> 00:36:30,274
She liked that you picked them for her.
473
00:36:33,485 --> 00:36:35,195
I'm always surprisedhow much you remember.
474
00:36:35,279 --> 00:36:36,655
You were so little then.
475
00:36:37,531 --> 00:36:39,741
I guess you were storing it all up.
476
00:36:41,076 --> 00:36:43,370
She's been gonelonger than we were together.
477
00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:46,498
I never thought of it that way.
478
00:36:48,166 --> 00:36:50,836
Every time I think I'm forgetting her,
479
00:36:51,253 --> 00:36:54,298
I hear Desiree laugh, and there she is...
480
00:36:55,382 --> 00:36:58,468
or your smile, and I see her.
481
00:36:59,928 --> 00:37:02,848
You know, Cydie doesn't remember her,but she's there too.
482
00:37:06,977 --> 00:37:08,729
That why you asked me up here?
483
00:37:11,148 --> 00:37:12,816
I wanna say no.
484
00:37:15,819 --> 00:37:17,112
Talk to me.
485
00:37:25,329 --> 00:37:26,830
I have CTE.
486
00:37:27,331 --> 00:37:28,665
CTE?
487
00:37:30,834 --> 00:37:32,711
I didn't think the doctors knew.
488
00:37:32,794 --> 00:37:34,379
That's what I told you all.
489
00:37:36,465 --> 00:37:39,843
You knew? When did you find out?Are they sure, Daddy?
490
00:37:39,927 --> 00:37:42,429
Doctors can't know for sureuntil I'm dead.
491
00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:47,559
But with all the boxing,that's what they think.
492
00:37:47,643 --> 00:37:49,978
I haven't told your sisters yetor Lillian.
493
00:37:51,647 --> 00:37:53,982
If it's true what they sayis happening in my head,
494
00:37:54,066 --> 00:37:58,487
I don't know what's gonna happen to meor what I'll be like.
495
00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:00,531
You'll be our father.
496
00:38:06,328 --> 00:38:08,330
When I'm gone and buried up herewith your mother,
497
00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:10,415
-I want you to keep coming back.-Daddy--
498
00:38:10,499 --> 00:38:12,793
No, not for me or her, but for you.
499
00:38:14,545 --> 00:38:15,838
Come and enjoy this view.
500
00:38:15,921 --> 00:38:21,802
This... big, bad, beautiful citythat made you who you are.
501
00:38:28,851 --> 00:38:31,270
-[rock playing on earbuds]-[knocking]
502
00:38:31,353 --> 00:38:32,354
[Alex] Hey.
503
00:38:33,689 --> 00:38:34,773
Come watch the game with me.
504
00:38:36,733 --> 00:38:37,776
Lanie.
505
00:38:48,412 --> 00:38:50,956
What, are you time traveling to the '90s?
506
00:38:53,041 --> 00:38:54,418
[phone ringing]
507
00:38:58,172 --> 00:39:00,090
-Hello, Erin.-Hi, Alex. Is Lanie there?
508
00:39:00,174 --> 00:39:01,800
Yeah, she's right here.
509
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:06,847
Yeah, Mom.
510
00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:09,683
Lanie, you told that reporterthat your father was abusing you?
511
00:39:09,766 --> 00:39:12,311
She cornered me at Melanie's.
512
00:39:13,812 --> 00:39:15,397
Wait, why are you at her house?
513
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,773
She set me up.
514
00:39:19,693 --> 00:39:21,403
Okay, listen. Where is it?
515
00:39:21,904 --> 00:39:25,157
It's not in the storage space.It's not in the old home.
516
00:39:25,657 --> 00:39:27,159
I don't know what you're talking about.
517
00:39:30,078 --> 00:39:31,413
You're not gonna tell me.
518
00:39:31,496 --> 00:39:34,374
All right, listen, Lanie. I am done.
519
00:39:34,458 --> 00:39:36,376
I can't take it anymore.
520
00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:39,588
I can't do this anymore.And I am gonna talk.
521
00:39:39,671 --> 00:39:42,633
I'm gonna tell the truth.I'm gonna tell her everything that I know.
522
00:39:42,716 --> 00:39:45,469
And I'm gonna maybe try to fix things,the right way.
523
00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:49,056
Okay. Just stay at Aunt Susan's.I will be right there.
524
00:39:49,139 --> 00:39:50,599
We can talk about this.
525
00:39:51,183 --> 00:39:54,228
[Poppy] Protecting a childis a parent's most basic role.
526
00:39:54,853 --> 00:39:59,816
It's hard to thrive, hard to functionwhen we feel threatened.
527
00:40:00,609 --> 00:40:02,736
-When we don't feel safe.-[Chuck] Come on. I said smile.
528
00:40:02,819 --> 00:40:08,200
And when you're a parent,when you're a caretaker of someone else,
529
00:40:08,283 --> 00:40:11,787
safety is an all-consuming concern.
530
00:40:12,329 --> 00:40:16,458
You were entrustedwith the life of this child.
531
00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,335
This loved one.
532
00:40:18,418 --> 00:40:22,172
So, you will do anything and everythingto protect them.
533
00:40:22,256 --> 00:40:25,300
-But how far is too far?-[Lanie] Let me go!
534
00:40:25,384 --> 00:40:29,137
Is it right to harm anotherin defense of your child?
535
00:40:30,222 --> 00:40:34,059
Was Erin Buhrman justifiedin killing her husband
536
00:40:34,142 --> 00:40:36,854
if it meant ending the abuseof her daughter?
537
00:40:36,937 --> 00:40:39,731
Was Chuck Buhrman deserving of death
538
00:40:39,815 --> 00:40:44,027
because he inflicted harmon his own flesh and blood?
539
00:40:48,282 --> 00:40:50,325
[Lanie] We'll do the interview together.Get it over with.
540
00:41:05,757 --> 00:41:06,758
Painkillers?
541
00:41:20,439 --> 00:41:21,815
What am I, 12?
542
00:41:46,298 --> 00:41:47,841
[knocking]
543
00:41:48,967 --> 00:41:49,968
Alex.
544
00:41:50,677 --> 00:41:52,930
Not again. Lanie's not here.
545
00:41:54,097 --> 00:41:55,891
-Do you know when she'll be back?-Don't have a clue.
546
00:41:55,974 --> 00:41:57,809
I really need to talk to her.It's the last time.
547
00:41:57,893 --> 00:41:59,770
Sweetheart, you're supposed to be upstairsgetting ready for bed.
548
00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:01,522
-What are you doing?-Daddy!
549
00:42:01,605 --> 00:42:03,106
-Yes, baby.-Where'd you get that?
550
00:42:06,443 --> 00:42:07,569
From Mommy.
551
00:42:09,363 --> 00:42:10,614
Oh, my God.
552
00:42:13,742 --> 00:42:17,746
[rock ballad playing]
553
00:43:07,171 --> 00:43:09,798
[ballad continues playing]
554
00:43:21,727 --> 00:43:23,228
[Erin] What did you give me?
555
00:43:25,606 --> 00:43:26,607
Rest easy.
556
00:43:28,317 --> 00:43:29,860
Everything's fine.
557
00:43:41,663 --> 00:43:44,291
[ballad continues playing]