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Are you my brother?
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Uh, yeah.
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Sorry about your father.
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Our father.
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You know he loved you.
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I'm sorry to be meeting like this.
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Me too.
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Is my mother here?
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I haven't seen her.
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[minister] We come to this day mindfulthat we've lost a beloved brother,
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a cherished friend, and a devoted father.
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[Warren] Poppy.
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-Where's my mother?-I don't know.
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We should get going.
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What the hell is going on?My mother's supposed to be here.
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-I haven't talked to you in over a week.-You lied to me.
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What?
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You looked me right in the eyeand told me you weren't there that night.
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-What are you talking about?-A witness came forward.
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A credible one that puts you at theBuhrman house at the time of the murder.
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You were there, Warren.
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Not even gonna deny it.
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I didn't kill Chuck.
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I trusted you.
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You trusted me?
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I trusted you.
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After everything you did to try to bury meall those years ago.
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Oh, but I was right the first time.
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My mother was right about you.
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You were just using usto try to make yourself feel better.
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You're guilty, and your mother deservesto know the truth about you.
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You stay away from my mother.
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You stay away from heror I will fucking kill you.
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Come on, Cave. Let's go.
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Let me ask you a question.
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Whose fault do you think it isthat my dad is dead?
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Your hands aren't clean in this.
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My dad put a gun to his head...
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Come on.
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...but you are the onewho drove him to do it.
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We're all here because of you, Poppy.
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-Please tell me that you got that.-Yup.
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[reporter]Can we get a comment, Ms. Parnell?
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Do you think your podcast was responsiblefor Owen Cave's death?
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No comment.
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Did he commit suicide because of what yousaid on the air? Can you describe what--
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[inmates clamoring]
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[crowd chattering]
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[auctioneer]Can I get 250? Anyone? Two fifty.
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Going once, going twice.
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Sold to this gentleman here for 200.Congratulations, sir.
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Up next, lot number 11.
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We have an original Erin Buhrman piece
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painted just months beforethe murder of her husband.
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We'll start the bidding at 800.Who will say 800?
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-[buyer 1] Eight hundred.-Thank you.
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Who'll go 850? Do I hear 850?
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-[buyer 2] Over here.-Eight fifty. Thank you.
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Can I get 900?Nine hundred for this painting.
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Going once, going twice, sold for 850.
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Next up is lot number 12.Lanie Buhrman's diary.
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Let's start the bidding at $500.Five hundred, thank you.
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-Can I get 600? Thank you.-[buyer 3] Six hundred.
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Seven hundred. Seven hundred, thank you.
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-Eight hundred. Eight hundred, thank you.-[buyer 4] Eight.
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-Who'll go nine? Who'll say nine?-[Noa] Nine hundred.
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Nine hundred dollars, thank you.
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One thousand. One thousand.
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Nine hundred going once, going twice,
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Lanie's diary, sold.
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Nine hundred to the blonde womanin the gray coat. Congratulations, ma'am.
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[gavel raps]
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Hey.
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[Ingram] So we are good?
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[cleaner] Yes. I stayeduntil the painters finished up.
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[Ingram] Great.
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Thank you.
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Here you go.
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I never should've done this story.
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I didn't keep it at arm's length.
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Broke every rule of reporting.
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What do you want to do? Talk to me.
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I'm sorry, Ingram. Sorry about everything.
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It's okay.
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I'm done with the Warren Cave story.
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Finished with all of it.
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I'll record a finale,tell the world the truth,
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and then we can... put this behind us.
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-Okay.-Okay.
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Hi.
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You ordered room service?
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I'll set it right here, if that's okay.
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All right.
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Okay. Just gotta...
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Dining for two?
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Answer him.
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In your real accent.
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[door closes]
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Oh, my God, where have you been?
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Someone taggedthe Reconsidered page on IG.
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They were sellingall these Buhrman collectibles.
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-Noa...-Buhrman home videos. Look at this.
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The family barbecue,Christmas '94, Mother's Day '96.
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We could rip the audioand put them on the podcast.
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-No.-"No"?
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No, I wanna lay in Warren's threat to me,
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show the world who he really is,and we're done.
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-Oh!-We're done.
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-Do you have the cut?-Yeah.
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What? I thought you'd be happy.
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Why would I be happy?We're stopping something that's working.
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I am done with these people, Noa.
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Just let me show youthe other thing I picked up.
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Lanie's diaryfrom when she was a teenager.
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Look at this. It's all symbolsin some kind of code language.
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There are entries every day of the weekfrom Chuck's murder.
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The best part,
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there's two people's handwriting in here.
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It's gotta be Lanie and Josie.
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We gotta get someone to crack it.There could be info in here.
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This is private.
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So was Susan's phone, but we'reon this ride now and so are our listeners.
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-Okay, this is our last episode.-It's bullshit to stop now.
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We can switch focus to the Buhrman women.
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-There is plenty of story.-I already told Markus that we were done.
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This is a gold mine. It could revealwhy she lied or who coached her.
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Somebody died in my house, Noa.
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Because of all of this.Because of this crazy... story.
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I mean, if that's not enough, Warren lied.
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And I can't put myself or Ingram--
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Oh, my God, I can't put Ingram...through any more of this, okay?
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For someone I don't trust.I just, I can't.
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Hey, hey, it's okay.I wasn't being sensitive.
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I'm just so used to you being unbreakable.
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But I get it. I hear you.You wanna stop, we stop.
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I'm sorry.
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I wanna record the finaleand then figure out what's next.
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You got it.
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[sighs]
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People have been telling mefrom the beginning
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that Warren Cave was probably guilty.
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And that I would drive myself crazytrying to find out the truth.
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And in many ways, I did.
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Just when I thought I had the answers,
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something would come along and completelypull the rug out from under me.
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Nobody wanted to give up the truth
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because giving it upmight've meant giving up hope.
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[reporter 1] Former Stanford professorand cult author killed in his own home.
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[reporter 2] His neighbor and the sonof the lead detective on the case
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has been arrested for his murder.
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[Poppy] I believed in Warren's innocence.
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I launched this seriessure that I could prove it,
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and then I heard this.
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[street sweeper] I was drivingmy street sweeper at 4:00 in the morning
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when I saw the killer running awayfrom the victim's house
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with a knife in his hand.
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I never told the policethey had the right guy.
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[Poppy] What was he running from?
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What happened at the Halloween party?
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What made Warren kill Chuck?
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[grunts]
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I don't know.
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I have no choice but to accept it.
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Warren Cave is guilty,and that's the truth.
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And that's all I ever wanted.
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Thank you.
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Have you seen this?
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Where did you find this?
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On the Reconsidered website.
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Someone just forwarded it to me.
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Ingram?
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[Ingram] In here.
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[guests chatter]
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[R&B music plays]
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Hey. Thought we'd chasesome of those demons out.
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By bringing in more demons?What's all this?
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You need them. They need you.Everybody wins. All right?
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Come on.
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Hey, y'all.
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I'm sorry about what happened in here.
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Thanks, baby.
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[sighs]
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Ooh.
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This table looks nice.
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-That was me.-Okay.
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Lillian cooked. She brought all the food.
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-Thanks, Lil.-Mm-hmm.
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And I didn't use any of your good china.
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All of her china is good china.She lucky we didn't bring Styrofoam.
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Quit playin'.You know you're too bougie for Styrofoam.
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-I am. I really, really am.-[Poppy] Mm-hmm.
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She is bougie.
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Hey, Daddy.
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Popsicle.
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Come sit with me a minute.
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Desiree told mewhat happened here with that cop.
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I hate you didn't call me yourself.
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You all right?
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No.
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But you told me once, "Nobody caresabout a little black girl's tears."
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So, I'm just trying to stay strong.
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I said that to you?
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When you dropped me off with Miss Shirley.
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I turned those words into my spine.
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And you know what?
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It's made of steel. Can't break me.
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I should not have said that to you.I should have never said that shit to you.
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-It's okay.-No.
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No, it's not.
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You... are my life, Poppy.
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You know that, right?
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All you girls.
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I ran the streets as hard as I didto take care of my family.
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[chuckles]You ran the streets because you liked it.
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[Cydie] Gonna put a couple of piecesof corn bread in there.
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[Desiree] This was magic here. [laughs]
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[Poppy] Thank you, baby.
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-What are you doing?-[Shreve] Uh-uh.
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[Poppy] We have to say grace.
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-This is incredible.-Okay.
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A happy day, and I'm so happy.
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So, Lillian, would you do the honors?
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[Lillian] Sure. Um...
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Heavenly Father, we thank youfor this opportunity to fellowship
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and break bread as a family.
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We ask that you bless this meal,
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the hands that prepared itand the mouths that are about to receive.
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In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
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-Amen!-All right.
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-[Cydie] Can I pass the meat?-Now you can.
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Caleb wants to meet the family.
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He's here. He's insisting.
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Whoa. Slow down.
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I cannot believe that you called him.
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What were you thinking?
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Don't put this all on me.
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You're the one who's been lying to him,pretending that I don't even exist.
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For good reason!You had no right to call him!
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I had no right? What about you?
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You're the one who soldall of our childhood shit to some ghoul
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who's selling it on the Internetto the highest bidder.
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What? What are you talking about?
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All of our shit from the storage unitis on the Internet.
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No.
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No, I paid the storage guyto get rid of it.
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My diary is in there, Josie.
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Yeah. This is all your fault.
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You're just as cluelessand self-righteous as you ever were.
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No. I--Aunt Susan is the one that made me--
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And then you told meI had to deal with it. You did!
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I didn't want any part of any of this!None of it!
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Okay. Okay! God, calm down.
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Look, I'm sorry that I called him.
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I honestly thought that I was...I could help.
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Let me fix this, all right?
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-Now, why don't we just invite Caleb over?-What?
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And we can answer any questionsthat he might have.
258
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You know?Then we'll just put everything behind us.
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Fine.
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Okay. It's okay.
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I'm only doing this'cause I have no other choice.
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Hey. Last night was nice.
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Did you post your last episode?
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00:17:29,299 --> 00:17:31,885
Uh-uh. I'm still tweaking it.
265
00:17:35,556 --> 00:17:37,766
How come you never told meyou were in foster care?
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What? Who told you that?
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Your father.
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I didn't, uh... I didn't ask before
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'cause of everythingthat happened with Owen.
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But...
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What did he tell you?
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Just that...
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you been trying to get back at himfor 30 years
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for him putting you in there.
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He said that? When?
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Were you in foster care?
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Babe. It wasn't that formal.
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Miss Shirley was a family friend.She took kids in.
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-That's how they used to do it.-[sighs]
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We grew up differently.
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My family grew up hard for generations.
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-I know that.-No, you don't.
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[cell phone rings]
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I mean, not really.
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You should air that last episode.
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[cell phone rings]
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[Markus] So you want to know what I think?
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I think if you really wanted to stop,you would have dropped the finale by now.
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[Poppy] Is that right?
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00:19:09,650 --> 00:19:13,987
Look, you can't quit now, Pop. All right?Way too many unanswered questions.
291
00:19:14,071 --> 00:19:16,990
-Noa got to you, didn't she?-As she should have.
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What, you thought you wasjust gonna get rid of me that easy?
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00:19:20,619 --> 00:19:22,913
[Markus] Look, that street sweeper,
294
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he swore up and down thathe saw Warren running towards the street.
295
00:19:26,458 --> 00:19:28,961
-Markus---Hold on. Hold on.
296
00:19:29,044 --> 00:19:32,881
Look, that's a direct contradictionto what Lanie said.
297
00:19:32,965 --> 00:19:35,384
Warren couldn't have jumpedthe back fence.
298
00:19:35,467 --> 00:19:38,303
So that goes back to ouroriginal question: Why did Lanie lie?
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Enough. Okay?
300
00:19:40,931 --> 00:19:43,308
I watched Owen put a gun to his head.
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[Poppy sighs]
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In my house.
303
00:19:49,523 --> 00:19:53,277
Why can't anybody understand that?What else has to happen?
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You done?
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00:19:56,822 --> 00:19:58,073
Forget you, Markus.
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00:19:58,156 --> 00:20:00,993
No, you know, the reason whywe're here right now is
307
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because you turned your backon the truth 19 years ago.
308
00:20:05,497 --> 00:20:07,457
Are you ready to go through that again?
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[sighs]
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Noa gave me this. Okay?
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00:20:22,222 --> 00:20:25,100
Now, what we need to do,is we need to figure out
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00:20:25,184 --> 00:20:27,728
exactly what Josie and Laniewere saying to each other.
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I don't give a shit what it says.
314
00:20:29,229 --> 00:20:30,856
Yeah, well, I don't believe that.
315
00:20:32,941 --> 00:20:34,568
I'm sorry you went through that with Owen.
316
00:20:35,027 --> 00:20:36,028
Okay?
317
00:20:36,528 --> 00:20:38,113
But look, if you're hurtin' now,
318
00:20:38,197 --> 00:20:41,283
think about how you're gonna feelif you don't get all the answers.
319
00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:43,160
He's guilty.
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Prove it.
321
00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:52,544
You know, at the end of the day,I don't give a shit about Warren Cave.
322
00:20:53,587 --> 00:20:54,880
But I do care about you.
323
00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:59,092
Gotta prove it for yourself, Pop.
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[door buzzes]
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[door creaks open]
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[door shuts, locks]
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Can we talk?
328
00:21:32,668 --> 00:21:35,295
If you're looking for sympathy'cause of your dead daddy,
329
00:21:36,213 --> 00:21:37,506
you ain't gonna find it here.
330
00:21:39,883 --> 00:21:43,178
Look, I just wanna clear the air.
331
00:21:45,514 --> 00:21:47,307
I messed up with that reporter.
332
00:21:47,391 --> 00:21:48,642
More than you think.
333
00:21:49,518 --> 00:21:51,645
It even caused issues on the outside.
334
00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:55,566
Putting the spotlight on Jerbic,just so she could talk to you.
335
00:21:58,151 --> 00:22:00,904
I let her put hope in my head.
336
00:22:02,281 --> 00:22:06,034
I was wrong. And then she betrayed me.
337
00:22:06,118 --> 00:22:07,870
What did you expect?
338
00:22:09,162 --> 00:22:11,206
She comes from a race of animals.
339
00:22:13,125 --> 00:22:14,459
And now you're here...
340
00:22:15,961 --> 00:22:18,755
because you want to come backto your real family.
341
00:22:20,215 --> 00:22:21,383
I-- [exhales]
342
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I never left.
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00:22:24,595 --> 00:22:25,637
Look,
344
00:22:26,471 --> 00:22:28,473
I'm always loyal to you.
345
00:22:29,641 --> 00:22:31,268
All right, whatever you need.
346
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This... is the only family you got.
347
00:22:52,956 --> 00:22:56,001
You know,it's the only family any of us got.
348
00:22:58,086 --> 00:22:59,296
Families...
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Families...
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they take care of each other.
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[breathing shakily]
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Go.
353
00:23:18,982 --> 00:23:20,067
Go on.
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00:23:27,074 --> 00:23:29,117
I'm gonna needa gesture from you, brother.
355
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To show your faith.
356
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[door opens]
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00:23:51,557 --> 00:23:52,808
Oh, my God.
358
00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:56,270
Oh, my God.
359
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,239
[officer] Give us a callif you find anything missing.
360
00:24:07,322 --> 00:24:09,783
And we'll let you knowif we get a hit on those prints.
361
00:24:09,867 --> 00:24:12,119
-[Shreve] Hey, baby.-[Poppy] Daddy.
362
00:24:12,202 --> 00:24:13,912
-You okay?-Yeah.
363
00:24:14,371 --> 00:24:15,497
Where's Ingram?
364
00:24:15,956 --> 00:24:17,624
He's on his way back from Carmel.
365
00:24:17,708 --> 00:24:19,543
I'm glad you called me.
366
00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:21,170
You're sure you're all right?
367
00:24:21,795 --> 00:24:25,174
I'm fine. It's just... the house.
368
00:24:26,091 --> 00:24:27,759
And what did the police say?
369
00:24:28,427 --> 00:24:30,971
That there were burglariesin the area recently.
370
00:24:31,054 --> 00:24:34,183
They think it might be teenagers.Basically, nothin'.
371
00:24:34,266 --> 00:24:35,934
I don't believe in accidents.
372
00:24:37,728 --> 00:24:38,770
Who would do this?
373
00:24:39,730 --> 00:24:40,731
I don't know.
374
00:24:41,523 --> 00:24:44,359
Is it because of your show, that prisoner?
375
00:24:44,776 --> 00:24:45,777
I ended it.
376
00:24:45,861 --> 00:24:48,113
-When?-Couple of days ago.
377
00:24:48,864 --> 00:24:51,074
And what did he say when you told him?
378
00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:53,076
Poppy.
379
00:24:53,577 --> 00:24:55,662
He said he'd kill me.But it was an empty threat.
380
00:24:55,746 --> 00:24:57,581
Come on. You know better than that.
381
00:24:58,123 --> 00:25:00,959
All he's gotta do is reach outto someone on the outside.
382
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,296
And who did you use to get to him before?
383
00:25:05,797 --> 00:25:08,383
-Jerbic.-Well, I told you he wasn't shit.
384
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,637
These cats are gonna stay behinduntil Ingram gets home,
385
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,888
longer if you need.
386
00:25:12,971 --> 00:25:15,599
-Wait. Where you goin'?-Leave the soldiers behind.
387
00:25:15,682 --> 00:25:17,643
-[bodyguard] On point, brother. Take care.-Sir.
388
00:25:22,439 --> 00:25:23,440
[knock on door]
389
00:25:28,779 --> 00:25:30,989
Don't worry. I don't bite.
390
00:25:32,574 --> 00:25:34,326
Welcome to our abode.
391
00:25:34,952 --> 00:25:38,330
It's nothing fancy,but it's our little slice of paradise.
392
00:25:38,413 --> 00:25:40,707
-This is my husband.-Alex.
393
00:25:41,291 --> 00:25:43,210
-Nice to meet you.-You too.
394
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:47,005
Hi, Caleb.
395
00:25:47,714 --> 00:25:50,217
I'm Erin, Josie's mom.
396
00:25:50,884 --> 00:25:52,970
-[Caleb] Nice to meet you.-[Erin chuckles]
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00:25:54,471 --> 00:25:58,267
So, can I get y'all something to drink?Water, wine?
398
00:25:58,350 --> 00:25:59,560
Wine, please.
399
00:26:00,853 --> 00:26:02,521
Uh, same.
400
00:26:03,021 --> 00:26:06,066
Caleb? Uh, beer?
401
00:26:07,651 --> 00:26:09,528
Beer sounds good.
402
00:26:11,196 --> 00:26:13,490
-Erin?-Oh, no. Nothing for me.
403
00:26:13,574 --> 00:26:15,117
Although you should all have a drink.
404
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,662
You look like you need one,and it's a party, right?
405
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:20,831
-Let's lighten it up.-[all chuckling]
406
00:26:20,914 --> 00:26:22,457
See? He gets it.
407
00:26:22,541 --> 00:26:23,625
[chuckles]
408
00:26:23,959 --> 00:26:27,379
Okay. Well, come on.I'll get you all those drinks.
409
00:26:30,591 --> 00:26:33,177
[voice over PA] Attention, all of C block.Attention, C block.
410
00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:37,723
Officer Harris. Officer R. Harris,report to center now, please.
411
00:26:46,481 --> 00:26:48,942
Somebody trashed my house last night.
412
00:26:49,026 --> 00:26:50,110
Good.
413
00:26:51,570 --> 00:26:52,905
Did you order it?
414
00:26:53,947 --> 00:26:56,867
No. But I wish that I had.
415
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:58,243
Go to hell.
416
00:26:58,869 --> 00:27:01,455
Now, that doesn't soundlike an apology to me.
417
00:27:01,955 --> 00:27:03,749
An apology to you? For what?
418
00:27:03,832 --> 00:27:06,627
You owe me for lyingabout being at the Buhrman house.
419
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:09,713
-You were there that night.-I told you, I didn't kill Chuck.
420
00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:11,548
And I'm supposed to believe you?
421
00:27:12,841 --> 00:27:13,842
You know what?
422
00:27:14,384 --> 00:27:18,472
If you think that I am guilty,why did you come back?
423
00:27:19,848 --> 00:27:21,350
A witness said they saw you running
424
00:27:21,433 --> 00:27:24,311
from the front of the Buhrman housewith a knife.
425
00:27:24,394 --> 00:27:25,479
So?
426
00:27:26,313 --> 00:27:29,608
Lanie testified she saw youjumping the back fence.
427
00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:31,777
Somebody lied.
428
00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,905
And as long as there's a lie,or the hint of one,
429
00:27:35,364 --> 00:27:36,782
I have to find out the truth.
430
00:27:39,201 --> 00:27:44,081
And now it is up to meto decide if I trust you or not.
431
00:27:54,716 --> 00:27:56,093
Any idea what that says?
432
00:27:57,469 --> 00:27:58,720
It's in code.
433
00:27:59,847 --> 00:28:02,474
But I think it says,"Poppy is full of shit."
434
00:28:04,059 --> 00:28:05,894
-Don't want to help?-Why should I?
435
00:28:26,164 --> 00:28:28,709
Who is the first person you metwhen you got to Quentin?
436
00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:31,461
What?
437
00:28:34,756 --> 00:28:37,342
What was your first day in lockup like?
438
00:28:37,426 --> 00:28:38,886
As a 17-year-old boy,
439
00:28:38,969 --> 00:28:43,849
in here with grown menwho were killers, rapists, sadists.
440
00:28:45,434 --> 00:28:47,102
Who befriended you first?
441
00:29:03,869 --> 00:29:04,870
Talk to me, Warren.
442
00:29:07,331 --> 00:29:08,415
You know...
443
00:29:11,126 --> 00:29:13,879
when I used to hunt the Burhmans...
444
00:29:15,923 --> 00:29:17,299
I would...
445
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,928
What?
446
00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:28,936
I would sneak into the twins' room,
447
00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:31,688
hide under Lanie's bed,
448
00:29:31,772 --> 00:29:35,400
and... read her diary.
449
00:29:45,786 --> 00:29:46,787
[Poppy] Did she know?
450
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:50,040
No.
451
00:29:50,707 --> 00:29:53,627
I was just a kid with a crush.
452
00:29:55,045 --> 00:29:57,047
That's a little more than a crush.
453
00:29:57,798 --> 00:29:59,007
And another lie.
454
00:30:04,847 --> 00:30:06,014
Do you know the code?
455
00:30:06,849 --> 00:30:09,560
That shit is over 20 years old.How am I supposed to remember that?
456
00:30:09,643 --> 00:30:10,644
Try.
457
00:30:18,318 --> 00:30:19,361
Uh...
458
00:30:19,987 --> 00:30:22,197
I think the symbols may be vowels,
459
00:30:22,948 --> 00:30:24,658
but I'm not sure which ones.
460
00:30:25,325 --> 00:30:27,744
There were a lot of entriesthe week before Chuck died.
461
00:30:28,245 --> 00:30:29,955
This could help us.
462
00:30:30,038 --> 00:30:31,123
[guard] Hey. Time's up.
463
00:30:33,083 --> 00:30:34,209
Think, Warren.
464
00:30:34,918 --> 00:30:36,086
Think. Help me.
465
00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:45,596
[Markus sighs] Teenage girls. Goddamn.
466
00:30:46,138 --> 00:30:48,891
[Noa] Can we not pass judgmentand just translate this thing?
467
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,561
Warren wouldn't have given me this code
468
00:30:52,644 --> 00:30:55,689
if he didn't think there wassomething in here that we could use.
469
00:31:02,237 --> 00:31:03,864
Jesus Christ.
470
00:31:04,656 --> 00:31:05,741
[Noa] What?
471
00:31:06,491 --> 00:31:08,160
That sick piece of shit.
472
00:31:08,785 --> 00:31:09,786
Who? Warren?
473
00:31:12,831 --> 00:31:14,499
Chuck was molesting Lanie.
474
00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:20,422
And if Lanie told her mom,it could have been either Erin or Warren.
475
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:25,260
Look, if a father's molesting her daughterand winds up stabbed, the mom did it.
476
00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:28,263
-You can bank on that.-She did have a shaky alibi too.
477
00:31:28,347 --> 00:31:29,806
Drunk and passed out?
478
00:31:30,265 --> 00:31:31,475
-Come on.-[Poppy] Yeah.
479
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:33,852
If Lanie told Erin what was going on,
480
00:31:33,936 --> 00:31:36,146
it could have easily have pushed herover the edge.
481
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:38,315
You think Lanie will give her mom up?
482
00:31:38,398 --> 00:31:40,400
You saw the type of relationshipthey have.
483
00:31:40,776 --> 00:31:42,945
If we press the right buttons,Lanie will turn on her.
484
00:31:43,987 --> 00:31:45,405
So you're back then?
485
00:31:46,573 --> 00:31:48,116
One step at a time.
486
00:31:49,076 --> 00:31:50,827
Thanks again for dinner.
487
00:31:50,911 --> 00:31:52,996
Don't thank me. Thank Alex.
488
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,582
He's the chef. I don't cook, I burn.
489
00:31:57,626 --> 00:32:02,214
I gotta be honest,I was a bit nervous about tonight.
490
00:32:02,297 --> 00:32:03,674
I didn't know what to expect.
491
00:32:03,757 --> 00:32:06,176
But... it wasn't this.
492
00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:10,889
She's worked so hard to cope witheverything that the murder did to her.
493
00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:12,891
Yeah.
494
00:32:13,517 --> 00:32:17,896
Yeah, she... and I havea lot to work through.
495
00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:20,649
But... I love her.
496
00:32:21,316 --> 00:32:22,609
That's so great.
497
00:32:22,693 --> 00:32:24,528
And, hey, at least all the outbursts
498
00:32:24,611 --> 00:32:27,573
and the in and out of institutionsseems to be in check.
499
00:32:27,656 --> 00:32:28,657
Right?
500
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:31,869
I mean, I was a bit concernedwith the whole Vivienne thing,
501
00:32:31,952 --> 00:32:34,413
but you seem to be so great for her.
502
00:32:34,496 --> 00:32:35,873
You and Mason.
503
00:32:38,709 --> 00:32:40,836
I did want to ask though, um...
504
00:32:41,879 --> 00:32:43,422
how is she with Mason?
505
00:32:43,922 --> 00:32:45,424
You leave her alone with him?
506
00:32:46,383 --> 00:32:49,553
[chuckles] Of course. Why wouldn't I?
507
00:32:49,636 --> 00:32:50,888
No. No reason. It's...
508
00:32:52,514 --> 00:32:56,018
There were some issuesafter Dad died, but...
509
00:32:56,476 --> 00:32:57,477
Issues?
510
00:32:59,605 --> 00:33:01,732
She... [sighs]
511
00:33:02,357 --> 00:33:07,154
Well, she tried to...smother me with a pillow once.
512
00:33:07,696 --> 00:33:11,158
Yeah, I woke up.I had to... fight her off.
513
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:12,784
I mean, I have no idea why she did it,
514
00:33:12,868 --> 00:33:16,205
but I think it probably hadsomething to do with
515
00:33:16,663 --> 00:33:20,459
needing somebody else to feelthe pain that she was feeling.
516
00:33:21,376 --> 00:33:25,923
You know, or maybe she even thoughtit was like an act of mercy.
517
00:33:26,006 --> 00:33:30,302
But... she just snapped.
518
00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:35,182
It was so long ago.
519
00:33:36,016 --> 00:33:39,019
Really. I'm sure she's past all of it.
520
00:33:39,436 --> 00:33:42,231
But I...for whatever reason, I don't know,
521
00:33:42,314 --> 00:33:44,608
I guess it's more my issue at this point,
522
00:33:44,691 --> 00:33:47,444
but I just can't seemto leave her alone with Ella.
523
00:33:57,287 --> 00:33:59,498
[man] Red MINI Cooper. Your car's ready.
524
00:34:00,958 --> 00:34:02,417
[cell phone chimes]
525
00:34:06,338 --> 00:34:07,464
[door opens]
526
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,007
What the hell?
527
00:34:09,091 --> 00:34:11,176
-I need to talk to you.-Get out of my car!
528
00:34:13,344 --> 00:34:15,054
You are insane.
529
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:18,976
How'd you even find me?
530
00:34:19,059 --> 00:34:21,395
I stopped by your office.Your colleague told me where you were.
531
00:34:21,478 --> 00:34:22,938
So you're stalking me.
532
00:34:23,021 --> 00:34:25,065
Why did you lie about seeing Warren?
533
00:34:25,148 --> 00:34:26,775
Oh, my God. Are you kidding me?
534
00:34:26,859 --> 00:34:28,944
A witness has come forwardwho's willing to go on record
535
00:34:29,027 --> 00:34:31,280
and swear he saw Warren runningfrom the front of your house
536
00:34:31,362 --> 00:34:32,697
at the time of your father's murder.
537
00:34:32,781 --> 00:34:34,533
Now, one of you is lying.
538
00:34:34,616 --> 00:34:36,368
My money's on you.
539
00:34:36,451 --> 00:34:39,204
Remember, I saw the old tapethat resurfaced.
540
00:34:39,913 --> 00:34:41,290
-[woman] Seriously? Come on.-[honks]
541
00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:42,623
[woman] Move it.
542
00:34:43,792 --> 00:34:45,085
[woman 2 speaks, indistinct]
543
00:34:48,255 --> 00:34:50,047
I have nothing to say to you.
544
00:34:50,674 --> 00:34:52,926
Please get out of my car.
545
00:34:53,010 --> 00:34:54,511
-So you weren't lying?-No!
546
00:34:54,594 --> 00:34:55,971
-[honks]-[woman] Come on.
547
00:34:57,848 --> 00:34:59,016
Fine!
548
00:35:01,476 --> 00:35:05,147
[man] Next car, please pull forwardand put it in neutral.
549
00:35:06,607 --> 00:35:07,858
[bell dings]
550
00:35:09,693 --> 00:35:12,279
Lanie, how longwas your father abusing you?
551
00:35:15,949 --> 00:35:18,410
Consonants move two places to the left.
552
00:35:18,493 --> 00:35:20,996
The ones become vowelsare replaced with symbols.
553
00:35:23,207 --> 00:35:25,209
-I don't want to.-This is not about what you want!
554
00:35:25,292 --> 00:35:27,878
-Dad! Stop! Stop! Let me go!-Okay, you need to do what I say!
555
00:35:32,549 --> 00:35:33,759
Did your mother know?
556
00:35:35,511 --> 00:35:36,887
I don't know.
557
00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:38,347
You can tell me the truth.
558
00:35:38,847 --> 00:35:41,934
Who do you think you are,asking me about this?
559
00:35:42,017 --> 00:35:44,978
Did your mother knowyour father was abusing you?
560
00:35:49,149 --> 00:35:50,275
Yes.
561
00:35:50,359 --> 00:35:52,069
Well, did she do anythingto try to stop it?
562
00:35:52,569 --> 00:35:55,989
Did she kill Chuck and tell you to lieto the police and say you saw Warren?
563
00:35:57,991 --> 00:36:01,078
Everything my mom did, she didto protect me. She didn't kill him.
564
00:36:01,161 --> 00:36:02,871
-But she did coach you.-No.
565
00:36:02,955 --> 00:36:07,251
No. Why can you not just understandwhat everybody else already knows?
566
00:36:07,334 --> 00:36:08,335
Lanie--
567
00:36:08,418 --> 00:36:12,631
Can you even imagine what it's liketo have a father that you idolize,
568
00:36:12,714 --> 00:36:14,675
that then he becomes this...
569
00:36:17,803 --> 00:36:21,098
Everything that that man stood forwas a lie. Everything.
570
00:36:21,181 --> 00:36:23,475
Did that wreck me? Yeah.
571
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,520
Was I institutionalized? Yes, twice.
572
00:36:26,603 --> 00:36:30,065
And it was my motherwho got me through it, okay?
573
00:36:31,942 --> 00:36:35,195
So just please leave me alone!Just leave us alone!
574
00:36:38,866 --> 00:36:39,867
Okay.
575
00:36:41,827 --> 00:36:42,953
Okay.
576
00:36:49,835 --> 00:36:52,087
[man] Mac, does the Chevy need wax?
577
00:36:55,424 --> 00:36:57,676
[man] Please pull your car forwardand put it in neutral.
578
00:37:00,554 --> 00:37:01,638
Markus.
579
00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:05,184
Can you meet me at El Camino and Rayburn?
580
00:37:13,817 --> 00:37:14,943
[Ella] What are you doing?
581
00:37:15,027 --> 00:37:19,656
What? I left my jacket here the other day.
582
00:37:21,074 --> 00:37:22,534
Hey, um,
583
00:37:22,618 --> 00:37:25,537
can you help me with somethingwhile your mom's out?
584
00:37:25,621 --> 00:37:30,083
I'm looking for a... toy.
585
00:37:30,501 --> 00:37:34,421
A little metal statue.It's a bird that your mom used to have.
586
00:37:35,255 --> 00:37:40,302
Have you ever seen anything like that?Like, maybe in a special hiding place.
587
00:37:42,137 --> 00:37:43,138
No.
588
00:37:45,891 --> 00:37:47,809
[sighs] Are you sure?
589
00:37:51,605 --> 00:37:52,981
There are toys in my room.
590
00:38:01,823 --> 00:38:04,243
[Markus] Well, what do you want me to do?I went to the hospital.
591
00:38:04,326 --> 00:38:07,371
-Lanie's records are sealed.-We gotta find a way to access them.
592
00:38:07,454 --> 00:38:08,580
And why is that exactly?
593
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,917
Lanie's story-- I don't know,something about it doesn't feel right.
594
00:38:12,626 --> 00:38:13,961
Poppy.
595
00:38:14,044 --> 00:38:17,339
You're asking this woman to relivethe most traumatic thing in her life.
596
00:38:19,258 --> 00:38:23,262
Second most, I guess.I don't know. Damn, this is dark.
597
00:38:23,345 --> 00:38:27,015
A doctor might be able to corroborateher story, tell us who coached her.
598
00:38:27,099 --> 00:38:29,476
-Something.-All right. Well, look.
599
00:38:32,145 --> 00:38:35,566
I pulled staff directories from bothof the times she was institutionalized.
600
00:38:36,358 --> 00:38:40,404
There's a lady on the board of directors,last name Dostikas.
601
00:38:41,822 --> 00:38:42,865
Ring a bell?
602
00:39:14,479 --> 00:39:16,607
-[Ingram] Let's have us a little fun.-[laughter]
603
00:39:17,399 --> 00:39:19,651
-That's for you.-Tipsy.
604
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,113
I don't need any more.Oh, my God, you're--
605
00:39:25,824 --> 00:39:28,660
-I have never seen him like this.-[laughter]
606
00:39:28,744 --> 00:39:31,538
You know,he is always the last one at the office.
607
00:39:31,622 --> 00:39:34,416
He even stays laterthan our clerical staff.
608
00:39:34,499 --> 00:39:36,752
Maybe it's that bad New York spirit.
609
00:39:37,461 --> 00:39:38,670
Yeah, well, maybe it is.
610
00:39:38,754 --> 00:39:42,966
And that New York spirit hassome business to attend to.
611
00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:44,968
Not in the house. You boys. Outside.
612
00:39:45,052 --> 00:39:47,304
-Out. Out.-Fine. Fine by me.
613
00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:49,097
-Young man, follow me.-Sir.
614
00:39:49,181 --> 00:39:51,058
Let me show you what we got out here.
615
00:39:51,141 --> 00:39:53,769
-Thank you for inviting us over.-Oh, of course.
616
00:39:53,852 --> 00:39:55,729
Your home is lovely.
617
00:39:55,812 --> 00:39:58,023
Oh, thank you. Thank you.
618
00:39:58,899 --> 00:40:03,195
Yeah, sometimes I need a wind downafter those partner dinners.
619
00:40:03,695 --> 00:40:04,905
Tell me about it.
620
00:40:06,114 --> 00:40:07,824
Aren't you a lawyer as well?
621
00:40:07,908 --> 00:40:11,328
No. I'm in hospital administration.
622
00:40:11,411 --> 00:40:13,830
The Redwood Institute for Mental Health.
623
00:40:14,456 --> 00:40:18,335
Oh. Redwood. Wow. They're world-class.
624
00:40:18,418 --> 00:40:20,963
That's... impressive.
625
00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:24,675
It's not as impressive as a buzzy podcast.
626
00:40:24,758 --> 00:40:26,426
-So you've heard it?-Mm-hmm.
627
00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:30,013
Tim says we should support Ingram,but I just like it.
628
00:40:30,097 --> 00:40:32,224
Well, for what it's worth,
629
00:40:32,307 --> 00:40:35,269
I will be returningto my Formidable Women series
630
00:40:35,352 --> 00:40:37,312
once I'm done with Owen Cave.
631
00:40:38,021 --> 00:40:42,067
Um, maybe you'd like to come onas a guest?
632
00:40:45,153 --> 00:40:46,446
Seriously?
633
00:40:47,114 --> 00:40:52,327
I thought that series wasall Sheryl Sandberg, Kamala Harris types.
634
00:40:52,411 --> 00:40:56,206
No. No. Mental health issuesare in the zeitgeist these days.
635
00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:58,876
And Redwood is cutting edge.
636
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,005
Oh, my God. I, uh, I would be honored to.
637
00:41:03,338 --> 00:41:06,717
One of the people in the current podcastwas there years ago.
638
00:41:07,593 --> 00:41:09,553
A lot of people come through us.
639
00:41:10,053 --> 00:41:11,054
Mmm.
640
00:41:12,222 --> 00:41:14,975
I know this is sensitive.
641
00:41:15,058 --> 00:41:20,898
But would you know how I couldgo about accessing her medical records?
642
00:41:23,358 --> 00:41:24,610
Excuse me?
643
00:41:24,693 --> 00:41:27,237
If you know the podcast,you know Lanie Buhrman.
644
00:41:27,321 --> 00:41:29,406
She was there as a teenager.
645
00:41:31,992 --> 00:41:33,493
[scoffs]
646
00:41:33,577 --> 00:41:36,371
Are you asking meto pull a patient's medical records?
647
00:41:36,455 --> 00:41:37,706
A minor's?
648
00:41:37,789 --> 00:41:41,293
I-- Sharon, I wouldn't be askingif it weren't urgent.
649
00:41:41,376 --> 00:41:46,298
I mean, this could be the keyto getting an innocent man out of prison.
650
00:41:47,007 --> 00:41:48,884
Is that what all of this was for?
651
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:50,928
The dinner. Staying over.
652
00:41:51,011 --> 00:41:52,179
No, no.
653
00:41:52,262 --> 00:41:54,848
We forgot the cigar cutter.
654
00:41:57,309 --> 00:41:58,352
-Everything okay?-Yeah.
655
00:41:58,435 --> 00:42:00,979
I'm just tired. Can we go?
656
00:42:02,439 --> 00:42:03,774
-But---Tim.
657
00:42:04,816 --> 00:42:06,109
It's time to go.
658
00:42:13,492 --> 00:42:15,202
-Thanks for coming.-Thank you.
659
00:42:16,411 --> 00:42:17,412
Thanks for dinner.
660
00:42:18,622 --> 00:42:19,623
Good night.
661
00:42:20,499 --> 00:42:21,500
Good night.
662
00:42:23,293 --> 00:42:26,463
[door opens, closes]
663
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:28,590
What just happened?
664
00:42:32,594 --> 00:42:35,097
-I don't have shit to say to you.-Can we just talk about this, please?
665
00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:38,475
You know, it's not just Owen Caveor the ransacking
666
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:41,270
or even your promisethat you were done with all of this--
667
00:42:41,353 --> 00:42:44,106
-Things changed.-I don't give a damn what changed.
668
00:42:44,189 --> 00:42:46,483
-I didn't know about her diary---Tell me the truth.
669
00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:51,738
Did you deliberately invite Timand his wife here to help your story?
670
00:42:51,822 --> 00:42:52,906
Yes or no?
671
00:42:59,246 --> 00:43:00,247
[sighs]
672
00:43:03,876 --> 00:43:05,794
-You used me.-Where are you going?
673
00:43:05,878 --> 00:43:07,379
I'm spending the nightin the guest bedroom.
674
00:43:07,462 --> 00:43:10,382
Ingram, we don't sleep apart.Especially when we're angry.
675
00:43:10,465 --> 00:43:12,634
You know that.Those are the rules we set up.
676
00:43:13,844 --> 00:43:14,845
Rules?
677
00:43:15,762 --> 00:43:19,308
There are rules?Really? In this relationship?
678
00:43:19,391 --> 00:43:22,436
In this house? With you?I didn't think you had any rules.
679
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:24,938
I thought you just didwhatever the hell you wanted to do.
680
00:43:25,022 --> 00:43:27,024
-Come on now.-No, you are damaged!
681
00:43:28,942 --> 00:43:31,445
And being back here, on the West Coast,around your family,
682
00:43:31,528 --> 00:43:36,742
I see the dysfunction and the crazythat you all mistake for communication.
683
00:43:36,825 --> 00:43:38,243
But it is twisted.
684
00:43:39,244 --> 00:43:41,622
And it's seeped back in.
685
00:43:41,705 --> 00:43:46,418
And it's made you think thatme being respectful and nice was weak,
686
00:43:46,502 --> 00:43:48,170
and that's your mistake.
687
00:43:48,253 --> 00:43:50,756
-I'm sorry.-I don't care, Poppy!
688
00:43:50,839 --> 00:43:52,508
I do not care!
689
00:43:54,301 --> 00:43:56,970
I am exhausted.
690
00:43:59,348 --> 00:44:01,433
And I don't want to do this much work.
691
00:44:02,184 --> 00:44:04,186
-Ingram, but just---And don't you--
692
00:44:04,269 --> 00:44:07,564
Don't think that I don't see yougrinning in Markus's face
693
00:44:07,648 --> 00:44:10,317
and running around townlike Bonnie and Clyde.
694
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,652
Now, either--
695
00:44:12,611 --> 00:44:15,280
Either you are a foolor, much worse, I am.
696
00:44:15,364 --> 00:44:17,241
No. Ingram.
697
00:44:18,909 --> 00:44:19,910
Oh, God.
698
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,622
[cell phone rings]
699
00:44:28,669 --> 00:44:29,670
Hey.
700
00:44:38,387 --> 00:44:39,429
Josie?
701
00:44:42,766 --> 00:44:44,142
Caleb left me.
702
00:44:46,854 --> 00:44:50,274
God, I don't understand.I thought dinner went so well.
703
00:44:51,942 --> 00:44:55,696
He says that he can't trust me.
704
00:45:00,617 --> 00:45:04,872
Josie, why don't you come home to me?
705
00:45:06,164 --> 00:45:07,457
Stay with me.
706
00:45:08,709 --> 00:45:12,129
If you stay with me,then I can take care of you.
707
00:45:14,423 --> 00:45:15,632
[sighs]
708
00:45:19,469 --> 00:45:20,470
Okay.
709
00:45:25,309 --> 00:45:27,936
[Chuck] Two hundred and fifty pieces.We can start now if you want.
710
00:45:29,104 --> 00:45:31,106
What do you think, Lanie?Pretty cool, huh?
711
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:33,275
Do you wanna come up here,we'll do it together?
712
00:45:33,358 --> 00:45:34,401
No.
713
00:45:34,484 --> 00:45:36,153
-No? You sure?-Yeah, I'm sure.
714
00:45:36,236 --> 00:45:37,237
Okay.
715
00:45:38,197 --> 00:45:39,198
[Erin] Lanie.
716
00:45:40,157 --> 00:45:41,700
[Chuck] Want me to help or you got it?
717
00:45:41,783 --> 00:45:43,952
-Put 'em in the box.-[young Josie] Okay.
718
00:45:55,380 --> 00:46:00,844
"When this story started,I made a promise to find the truth.
719
00:46:02,262 --> 00:46:05,432
What I didn't know waswhere the story would take me
720
00:46:05,516 --> 00:46:10,646
as I looked for the answersof what really happened to Chuck Buhrman.
721
00:46:13,273 --> 00:46:20,072
[Poppy] This case has taken meto a place I didn't know I could go.
722
00:46:22,115 --> 00:46:23,575
It's been maddening.
723
00:46:24,910 --> 00:46:26,161
Terrifying.
724
00:46:27,704 --> 00:46:29,456
And it's made me question everything.
725
00:46:34,294 --> 00:46:36,588
Have I been helping a murderer?
726
00:46:39,091 --> 00:46:44,346
Have I risked...even more than I can know?
727
00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:49,726
Have I been played by a sociopath?
728
00:46:52,104 --> 00:46:54,940
I don't know the answer to that question.
729
00:46:56,608 --> 00:47:00,070
And that is what scares me the most."
730
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,326
[device clicks]
731
00:47:07,744 --> 00:47:09,079
[sighs]
732
00:47:30,184 --> 00:47:35,355
You have no ideawhat I've done for this family.
733
00:47:38,609 --> 00:47:41,820
[man] Did you recognize the individualwho jumped the back fence?
734
00:47:42,863 --> 00:47:45,282
[Erin] Go ahead. Say it.
735
00:47:46,325 --> 00:47:48,827
Yes. It was Warren.
736
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:55,334
You don't realizewhat I've sacrificed for Josie...
737
00:47:58,754 --> 00:47:59,755
for you.
738
00:48:04,426 --> 00:48:06,762
[man] ...the individualwho jumped the back fence?
739
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,183
[Erin] Go ahead. Say it.
740
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:13,310
Yes.
741
00:48:15,437 --> 00:48:16,438
[sighs]
742
00:48:17,564 --> 00:48:19,066
[Poppy] Why did you lie, Lanie?
743
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,360
Who were you looking at?
744
00:48:25,405 --> 00:48:28,450
[recorder rewinding, clicking]
745
00:48:31,411 --> 00:48:33,705
What are you hiding?