1 00:00:01,848 --> 00:00:04,068 male narrator: Thinking about having children? 2 00:00:04,112 --> 00:00:06,462 - Aah! - [screams] 3 00:00:06,505 --> 00:00:08,768 narrator: You might wanna watch this first... 4 00:00:08,812 --> 00:00:10,161 [crowd screaming] 5 00:00:10,205 --> 00:00:12,424 - The girls hate Carrie because she's different. 6 00:00:12,468 --> 00:00:13,730 [dramatic musical sting] 7 00:00:13,773 --> 00:00:15,732 - She is the hero wronged by society. 8 00:00:15,775 --> 00:00:17,125 [scary music] 9 00:00:17,168 --> 00:00:19,388 And, society, this is what you get. 10 00:00:19,431 --> 00:00:21,825 ♪ 11 00:00:21,868 --> 00:00:24,436 - Bring them back here. Right here to me! 12 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,785 ♪ 13 00:00:25,829 --> 00:00:28,005 - You say a child is a bad seed... 14 00:00:29,311 --> 00:00:31,052 Everyone knows what you mean. 15 00:00:31,835 --> 00:00:33,228 - Something that's supposed to be so innocent 16 00:00:33,271 --> 00:00:34,794 becoming so evil. 17 00:00:34,838 --> 00:00:36,318 - [screaming] 18 00:00:37,319 --> 00:00:39,364 - And now it's something that can harm you. 19 00:00:41,279 --> 00:00:42,324 - You don't know what's going on inside that kid. 20 00:00:42,367 --> 00:00:45,936 - Leave us alone. 21 00:00:45,979 --> 00:00:47,590 - Maybe they're just being a weird kid, 22 00:00:47,633 --> 00:00:49,635 or maybe you're about to die. 23 00:00:51,637 --> 00:00:52,986 - "Children of the Corn" is, like, 24 00:00:53,030 --> 00:00:54,597 the ultimate creepy kid flick. 25 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,990 - We want to give you peace. 26 00:00:57,034 --> 00:00:58,166 - You're just like, "Oh, these kids are [bleep]." 27 00:00:58,209 --> 00:00:59,515 [laughs] 28 00:01:00,342 --> 00:01:01,865 - What could be more frightening 29 00:01:01,908 --> 00:01:03,780 than your child gone wrong? 30 00:01:03,823 --> 00:01:05,390 - [screams] 31 00:01:06,348 --> 00:01:08,567 - People without children don't realize how lucky they are. 32 00:01:08,611 --> 00:01:10,395 - [screams] 33 00:01:11,875 --> 00:01:14,791 [eerie music] 34 00:01:14,834 --> 00:01:21,754 ♪ 35 00:01:22,451 --> 00:01:24,105 - [screams] 36 00:01:40,208 --> 00:01:41,861 narrator: The chilling children of horror 37 00:01:41,905 --> 00:01:42,906 come in many forms. 38 00:01:42,949 --> 00:01:43,950 - Help me. 39 00:01:46,649 --> 00:01:48,477 narrator: Some are born with the seeds of evil 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,826 lurking inside them. 41 00:01:49,869 --> 00:01:52,437 - [screams] 42 00:01:55,136 --> 00:01:58,008 narrator: A few are good kids possessed by evil entities. 43 00:01:58,051 --> 00:01:59,444 - And I'm the devil. 44 00:02:01,011 --> 00:02:03,535 narrator: And then there's Carrie, 45 00:02:03,579 --> 00:02:06,408 a good girl who does some very bad things. 46 00:02:08,018 --> 00:02:11,674 Based on Stephen King's terrifying debut novel, 47 00:02:11,717 --> 00:02:15,199 "Carrie" begins with blood and trauma. 48 00:02:16,157 --> 00:02:21,205 Sissy Spacek plays a teenage girl so sheltered and naive, 49 00:02:21,249 --> 00:02:22,859 that when she has her first menstruation 50 00:02:22,902 --> 00:02:25,862 in a high school shower, she thinks she's dying. 51 00:02:25,905 --> 00:02:28,038 - Help me! Help me! 52 00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:29,909 - Have a tampon. 53 00:02:29,953 --> 00:02:31,650 narrator: And her classmates brutally shame her for it. 54 00:02:31,694 --> 00:02:34,349 - Hey, Norma,Carrie's on her period. 55 00:02:34,392 --> 00:02:36,786 - I don't even think we're thinking about what happened, 56 00:02:36,829 --> 00:02:38,135 or what's wrong with her; 57 00:02:38,179 --> 00:02:39,745 we're just dis-- just repelled by her. 58 00:02:42,661 --> 00:02:45,795 It's really about how mean kids can be, 59 00:02:45,838 --> 00:02:48,798 and if you're different, we're gonna torture you. 60 00:02:48,841 --> 00:02:50,713 You know? And you will pay for it. 61 00:02:50,756 --> 00:02:54,238 girls: Put it on, put it on, put it on, put it on! 62 00:02:54,282 --> 00:02:56,545 narrator: The traumatic passage into womanhood 63 00:02:56,588 --> 00:02:59,591 awakens Carrie's latent psychic powers. 64 00:02:59,635 --> 00:03:00,897 [horrific musical sting] 65 00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:03,421 [lightbulb shatters] 66 00:03:03,465 --> 00:03:06,642 Carrie's tormenters are punished for their cruelty. 67 00:03:06,685 --> 00:03:09,906 Bad girl Chris is out for revenge, 68 00:03:09,949 --> 00:03:13,126 while good girl Sue wants to atone for her sin. 69 00:03:15,346 --> 00:03:19,263 She persuades her boyfriend to ask Carrie to the senior prom. 70 00:03:19,307 --> 00:03:20,960 - If you don't have a date to the prom next Friday, 71 00:03:21,004 --> 00:03:22,179 would you like to go with me? 72 00:03:22,223 --> 00:03:25,530 ♪ 73 00:03:25,574 --> 00:03:28,881 - I always saw him as conflicted, 74 00:03:28,925 --> 00:03:33,190 but always very virtuous, wanting to do the right thing. 75 00:03:33,234 --> 00:03:34,887 - I've been invited to the prom. 76 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:37,716 - Prom? 77 00:03:39,370 --> 00:03:41,329 narrator: The abuse Carrie suffers at school 78 00:03:41,372 --> 00:03:43,287 pales next to what she endures 79 00:03:43,331 --> 00:03:45,028 from her hyper-religious mother. 80 00:03:45,071 --> 00:03:47,030 - [screams] 81 00:03:50,468 --> 00:03:54,559 - It's extraordinary to me that people were frightened by me 82 00:03:54,603 --> 00:03:58,259 because it was such a--it was like a vacation for me, 83 00:03:58,302 --> 00:04:01,914 and I hadn't laughed that much in a long time at myself. 84 00:04:01,958 --> 00:04:04,221 The boys. Yes, the boys. 85 00:04:04,265 --> 00:04:05,701 [tense music] 86 00:04:05,744 --> 00:04:10,140 After the blood come the boyslike sniffing dogs. 87 00:04:10,183 --> 00:04:13,404 - Really, you have in Margaret White someone who is terrified 88 00:04:13,448 --> 00:04:16,146 that the world is going to 89 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:18,496 tear her daughter apart, 90 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:22,239 and almost preemptively, she starts to tear her apart 91 00:04:22,283 --> 00:04:24,633 before the world gets a chance to do it. 92 00:04:24,676 --> 00:04:28,201 - Mama, I'll get them. Please sit and talk to me! 93 00:04:28,245 --> 00:04:31,814 [scary music] 94 00:04:31,857 --> 00:04:34,773 [thunder cracks] 95 00:04:38,647 --> 00:04:41,476 I'm going, Mama. 96 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:44,174 narrator: Carrie's prom shows director Brian De Palma 97 00:04:44,217 --> 00:04:45,523 at his best, 98 00:04:45,567 --> 00:04:47,786 balancing technical virtuosity 99 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:50,136 with strong emotional storytelling. 100 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:54,706 - The prom scene took two to three weeks to shoot. 101 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:57,187 It was the longest sequence in the film. 102 00:04:57,230 --> 00:04:59,407 It was the big set piece, of course. 103 00:04:59,450 --> 00:05:02,845 Nobody I've worked with has done as many takes as Brian. 104 00:05:04,063 --> 00:05:07,066 - That prom scene is just really muscular filmmaking. 105 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:09,199 Like, just what he's doing with the camera 106 00:05:09,242 --> 00:05:10,853 is so exciting. 107 00:05:10,896 --> 00:05:12,637 - Why am I here with you? 108 00:05:12,681 --> 00:05:15,336 - [laughs] 109 00:05:15,379 --> 00:05:17,990 Because I asked you. 110 00:05:18,034 --> 00:05:19,949 - You know, even when they're dancing, 111 00:05:19,992 --> 00:05:21,777 and the camera's revolving around them, 112 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:24,170 and it just starts spinning out of control, 113 00:05:24,214 --> 00:05:27,043 it shouldn't work, and it's--it's really uncanny. 114 00:05:27,086 --> 00:05:30,568 - Carrie, we're here. 115 00:05:30,612 --> 00:05:33,223 - She's, you know, been cocooned for her whole life 116 00:05:33,266 --> 00:05:37,270 with this oppressive religious mother, 117 00:05:37,314 --> 00:05:38,924 and then finally she gets a chance 118 00:05:38,968 --> 00:05:40,796 to emerge as this beautiful butterfly. 119 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,364 [laughter] 120 00:05:43,407 --> 00:05:46,454 You really begin to feel this sense of hope. 121 00:05:46,497 --> 00:05:47,977 [dramatic musical sting] 122 00:05:48,020 --> 00:05:50,109 And then what happens after that 123 00:05:50,153 --> 00:05:52,416 is just tragic. 124 00:05:53,243 --> 00:05:55,158 - Can I have your ballot, please? 125 00:05:55,201 --> 00:05:57,160 narrator: Carrie's enemies rig the ballots 126 00:05:57,203 --> 00:05:59,423 so she becomes prom queen, 127 00:05:59,467 --> 00:06:02,383 and so they can spring a terrible trap. 128 00:06:02,426 --> 00:06:04,428 - I think everyone always responds to that movie, 129 00:06:04,472 --> 00:06:06,125 where, like, 130 00:06:06,169 --> 00:06:08,432 "We just want it to turn out differently this time." 131 00:06:08,476 --> 00:06:10,956 ♪ 132 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,742 She's happy; you know, she's just happy for the first time, 133 00:06:13,785 --> 00:06:16,614 and we're so happy to see that 134 00:06:16,658 --> 00:06:19,487 and dreading what we know is coming, 135 00:06:19,530 --> 00:06:21,140 and then it all explodes. 136 00:06:21,184 --> 00:06:27,146 ♪ 137 00:06:27,190 --> 00:06:28,800 - [gasps] 138 00:06:28,844 --> 00:06:30,323 - Drenched in blood, Carrie snaps, 139 00:06:30,367 --> 00:06:33,022 and her psychic powers erupt. 140 00:06:33,065 --> 00:06:34,763 ♪ 141 00:06:34,806 --> 00:06:37,243 - Sissy Spacek's eyes-- she's covered in blood, 142 00:06:37,287 --> 00:06:38,723 but her eyes are really big and blue. 143 00:06:38,767 --> 00:06:41,465 [laughter] 144 00:06:41,509 --> 00:06:42,901 - I remember the first time I saw that, 145 00:06:42,945 --> 00:06:44,337 I think I backed up a little bit and went, 146 00:06:44,381 --> 00:06:47,602 "Oh, no, oh, this is bad. This is bad. 147 00:06:47,645 --> 00:06:49,647 I've never seen her mad yet. I haven't seen her mad yet." 148 00:06:49,691 --> 00:06:52,520 ♪ 149 00:06:52,563 --> 00:06:55,087 - She splits, and De Palma splits the screen. 150 00:06:55,131 --> 00:06:57,568 [electrical crackling] 151 00:06:57,612 --> 00:06:59,614 And when Carrie's personality splits, 152 00:06:59,657 --> 00:07:03,226 and she just looks, it's like the other side takes over. 153 00:07:03,269 --> 00:07:04,967 It's like in the beginning 154 00:07:05,010 --> 00:07:06,751 she has this little bit of power with the drop of blood, 155 00:07:06,795 --> 00:07:08,623 but when she's covered in blood, 156 00:07:08,666 --> 00:07:10,233 that's when it really comes out, 157 00:07:10,276 --> 00:07:12,017 and she's like, "I'm going to make you pay." 158 00:07:12,061 --> 00:07:15,281 - [screaming] 159 00:07:17,719 --> 00:07:20,504 - Somewhere inside every girl, 160 00:07:20,548 --> 00:07:22,419 they can relate to this idea 161 00:07:22,463 --> 00:07:26,118 of feeling like, "My power has been taken away from me, 162 00:07:26,162 --> 00:07:27,903 "and what would I do 163 00:07:27,946 --> 00:07:30,732 if I got all that power and then some back?" 164 00:07:30,775 --> 00:07:33,082 [dramatic musical sting] 165 00:07:36,389 --> 00:07:39,044 narrator: After laying waste to her graduating class, 166 00:07:39,088 --> 00:07:40,655 Carrie goes home 167 00:07:40,698 --> 00:07:42,352 to the less than comforting arms of her mother, 168 00:07:42,395 --> 00:07:45,094 who's decided her daughter must die. 169 00:07:45,137 --> 00:07:46,530 - [gasps] 170 00:07:46,574 --> 00:07:48,140 - Piper Laurie raises the knife... 171 00:07:48,184 --> 00:07:49,881 - [gasps] 172 00:07:50,969 --> 00:07:52,362 Aah! 173 00:07:52,405 --> 00:07:54,103 - And then they did that whole sequence 174 00:07:54,146 --> 00:07:56,279 where the knives "whoosh," they twirl through the air. 175 00:07:56,322 --> 00:07:58,150 - [gasps] 176 00:07:58,194 --> 00:07:59,761 - You know when I first saw it, I didn't know how they did it. 177 00:08:01,719 --> 00:08:04,940 - I was wearing this iron vest underneath, 178 00:08:04,983 --> 00:08:08,421 and each place I was going to be hit 179 00:08:08,465 --> 00:08:11,773 there was a block of wood underneath 180 00:08:11,816 --> 00:08:15,559 and a hole in the costume with a wire stretched out 181 00:08:15,603 --> 00:08:16,778 to the prop man. 182 00:08:18,736 --> 00:08:20,912 And this knife or can opener would travel 183 00:08:20,956 --> 00:08:23,698 until it hit me, 184 00:08:23,741 --> 00:08:25,526 and then I would react. 185 00:08:25,569 --> 00:08:27,876 Aah! Aah! 186 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:31,009 - That one particular scene was always my favorite. 187 00:08:31,619 --> 00:08:34,491 [somber music] 188 00:08:34,535 --> 00:08:36,580 ♪ 189 00:08:36,624 --> 00:08:38,277 And I thought the movie was over, 190 00:08:38,321 --> 00:08:41,280 so I was really 100% completely satisfied, 191 00:08:41,324 --> 00:08:43,065 and then of course the arm comes out of the ground 192 00:08:43,108 --> 00:08:44,283 at the end. 193 00:08:44,327 --> 00:08:48,331 - [screaming] 194 00:08:48,374 --> 00:08:50,681 - Carrie has the greatest jump scare ending ever. 195 00:08:50,725 --> 00:08:53,162 - [screaming] 196 00:08:53,205 --> 00:08:54,816 - That ending changed movies. 197 00:08:54,859 --> 00:08:56,644 - If you were making a horror movie, 198 00:08:56,687 --> 00:08:58,559 you had to have a jump scare at the end, 199 00:08:58,602 --> 00:09:00,343 or the audiences were pissed. 200 00:09:00,386 --> 00:09:02,606 narrator: Decades after its release, 201 00:09:02,650 --> 00:09:04,216 "Carrie" remains 202 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:07,045 one of the all time great horror classics, 203 00:09:07,089 --> 00:09:09,221 because while fashions may change, 204 00:09:09,265 --> 00:09:12,703 the misery adolescence is timeless. 205 00:09:14,226 --> 00:09:16,489 - Everybody sympathizes with Carrie. 206 00:09:16,533 --> 00:09:19,754 The character of Carrie White continues to resonate 207 00:09:19,797 --> 00:09:21,538 generation after generation 208 00:09:21,582 --> 00:09:24,236 because she is sort of, like, this heroic character 209 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,761 for anybody has been marginalized or bullied 210 00:09:26,804 --> 00:09:29,198 or has had an oppressive parent. 211 00:09:29,241 --> 00:09:32,157 [crowd screaming] 212 00:09:32,201 --> 00:09:35,944 - It is a warning to all of us to be kind to each other 213 00:09:35,987 --> 00:09:38,337 because you don't know what monster you're making. 214 00:09:39,687 --> 00:09:41,645 narrator: It's understandable 215 00:09:41,689 --> 00:09:44,082 that a gentle soul could be pushed to the breaking point, 216 00:09:44,126 --> 00:09:47,956 but some children defy understanding. 217 00:09:49,044 --> 00:09:52,961 Like the angel-faced tikes with murder in their hearts. 218 00:09:53,004 --> 00:09:55,267 ♪ 219 00:09:57,966 --> 00:09:59,881 narrator: What is the nature of evil? 220 00:09:59,924 --> 00:10:01,230 - [screams] 221 00:10:01,273 --> 00:10:02,579 narrator: Is it learned behavior? 222 00:10:02,623 --> 00:10:04,755 Or are some kids just born bad? 223 00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:06,714 - [screams] 224 00:10:06,757 --> 00:10:08,977 narrator: When a child kills, 225 00:10:09,020 --> 00:10:11,109 do we blame the parents? 226 00:10:11,153 --> 00:10:12,807 - Say good-bye. - No! 227 00:10:12,850 --> 00:10:14,373 narrator: Or faulty brain chemistry? 228 00:10:14,417 --> 00:10:17,899 [tires screeching] 229 00:10:17,942 --> 00:10:19,814 [terrifying music] 230 00:10:19,857 --> 00:10:22,686 Those difficult questions are at the heart of two films 231 00:10:22,730 --> 00:10:24,340 made half a century apart 232 00:10:24,383 --> 00:10:26,516 in two very different Americas. 233 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,431 - What are all these people watching? 234 00:10:28,474 --> 00:10:30,215 People like me. 235 00:10:30,259 --> 00:10:33,871 narrator: "We Need to Talk About Kevin" from 2011 236 00:10:33,915 --> 00:10:37,048 and "The Bad Seed" from 1956. 237 00:10:37,092 --> 00:10:39,398 ♪ 238 00:10:39,442 --> 00:10:42,706 "We Need to Talk About Kevin" is an evil child film 239 00:10:42,750 --> 00:10:44,360 for the era of school shootings. 240 00:10:44,403 --> 00:10:46,754 ♪ 241 00:10:46,797 --> 00:10:49,713 Through disjointed flashbacks, 242 00:10:49,757 --> 00:10:51,497 the film traces the relationship 243 00:10:51,541 --> 00:10:53,369 of a reluctant mother to her son. 244 00:10:53,412 --> 00:10:55,980 Kevin's an inscrutable psychopath 245 00:10:56,024 --> 00:10:58,635 who makes her life hell as a toddler 246 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,203 and ends up a teenage mass murderer. 247 00:11:01,246 --> 00:11:03,727 [children screaming] 248 00:11:03,771 --> 00:11:05,207 - What could be more frightening 249 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:07,122 than your child gone wrong? 250 00:11:07,165 --> 00:11:10,429 I mean how organic is that? 251 00:11:10,473 --> 00:11:12,867 How horrendous would that be? 252 00:11:12,910 --> 00:11:15,739 Because you're there for at least 18 years, man. 253 00:11:15,783 --> 00:11:17,959 [laughs] However your kids comes out, 254 00:11:18,002 --> 00:11:19,656 you have a responsibility. 255 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:23,094 ♪ 256 00:11:23,138 --> 00:11:25,009 - It's almost just every parent's nightmare 257 00:11:25,053 --> 00:11:26,794 than anything else. 258 00:11:26,837 --> 00:11:32,103 [crowd screaming] 259 00:11:32,147 --> 00:11:33,888 It's highly relatable, 260 00:11:33,931 --> 00:11:35,585 because I think every parent 261 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:38,414 experiences that "what if" moment. 262 00:11:38,457 --> 00:11:42,026 You know, what if my daughter or son did this or that? 263 00:11:43,332 --> 00:11:46,117 narrator: Kevin's guilt-ridden mother is haunted 264 00:11:46,161 --> 00:11:48,467 by not knowing if her child was born bad, 265 00:11:48,511 --> 00:11:51,601 or if her failures as a mother made him a monster. 266 00:11:51,644 --> 00:11:53,211 [thumps] 267 00:11:53,255 --> 00:11:56,780 - There's a very contemporary kind of engagement 268 00:11:56,824 --> 00:11:59,652 with the discussions of what's sometimes referred to 269 00:11:59,696 --> 00:12:01,742 as the Mommy Wars. 270 00:12:01,785 --> 00:12:04,527 Just a continual question 271 00:12:04,570 --> 00:12:08,444 of how much time, energy, 272 00:12:08,487 --> 00:12:10,098 and emotional attachment 273 00:12:10,141 --> 00:12:12,970 do mothers need to give to their children? 274 00:12:14,102 --> 00:12:16,844 And you know, all kinds of guilt accorded to mothers 275 00:12:16,887 --> 00:12:18,846 who supposedly do not give 276 00:12:18,889 --> 00:12:21,849 enough emotional time and energy to their children. 277 00:12:21,892 --> 00:12:24,068 - [sarcastic] Looks like someone's having a nice day. 278 00:12:24,112 --> 00:12:25,635 Enjoying yourself? 279 00:12:25,678 --> 00:12:28,159 - I'm sorry?Ooh! 280 00:12:28,203 --> 00:12:31,728 - I think culturally, that's what we do to women 281 00:12:31,772 --> 00:12:36,559 who don't always live up to the ideal of, like, 282 00:12:36,602 --> 00:12:39,257 "Oh, my God, I love my beautiful child. 283 00:12:39,301 --> 00:12:41,520 My child is just the most wonderful thing." 284 00:12:41,564 --> 00:12:43,000 - I don't like that. [yelling] 285 00:12:43,044 --> 00:12:46,525 - Mommy was happy befow wittle Kevin came along. 286 00:12:46,569 --> 00:12:48,136 You know dat? 287 00:12:48,179 --> 00:12:49,920 - Basically, I think it's an expose 288 00:12:49,964 --> 00:12:51,835 on how difficult parenthood can be. 289 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:55,708 - Now Mommy wakes up every morning 290 00:12:55,752 --> 00:12:58,537 and wishes she was in France! 291 00:12:58,581 --> 00:13:00,713 - You never know exactly what you're gonna get, right? 292 00:13:02,672 --> 00:13:04,239 - You're a little clammy. 293 00:13:04,282 --> 00:13:05,980 You feeling okay? 294 00:13:06,023 --> 00:13:08,547 - Never better. 295 00:13:08,591 --> 00:13:10,114 narrator: Today, 296 00:13:10,158 --> 00:13:12,856 the idea of a seemingly normal American kid 297 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:16,817 committing coldblooded mass murder is a sad fact of life. 298 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:20,342 In 1956, it was shocking. - [crying] 299 00:13:20,385 --> 00:13:22,126 [dramatic musical sting] 300 00:13:22,170 --> 00:13:23,562 narrator: The pigtailed psycho killer 301 00:13:23,606 --> 00:13:25,216 at the heart of "The Bad Seed" 302 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:28,350 is 8-year-old Rhoda Penmark. 303 00:13:28,393 --> 00:13:32,049 She's the original evil child of horror. 304 00:13:32,093 --> 00:13:33,877 - If you say a child is a bad seed, 305 00:13:33,921 --> 00:13:35,270 everyone knows what you mean. 306 00:13:35,313 --> 00:13:37,446 It's part of the, uh-- the Lexicon now. 307 00:13:39,056 --> 00:13:42,364 "The Bad Seed" is one of the more chilling 308 00:13:42,407 --> 00:13:44,235 child horror stories 309 00:13:44,279 --> 00:13:47,586 because there's not a supernatural element to it. 310 00:13:47,630 --> 00:13:49,719 She's just an evil kid. 311 00:13:49,762 --> 00:13:52,591 - Good morning, Miss Fern. - Good morning, Rhoda. 312 00:13:52,635 --> 00:13:55,377 - Always smiling, always nice, always clean-cut, 313 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:57,945 and then pure evil behind your back. 314 00:13:57,988 --> 00:14:01,818 - You've got them hid, but you'd better get them 315 00:14:01,862 --> 00:14:04,952 and bring them back here, right here to me! 316 00:14:04,995 --> 00:14:06,301 [dramatic musical sting] 317 00:14:06,344 --> 00:14:08,259 - Patty McCormack is the bad seed. 318 00:14:10,044 --> 00:14:12,394 It'd had been a play first on Broadway, 319 00:14:12,437 --> 00:14:15,658 and she having played it onstage, 320 00:14:15,701 --> 00:14:17,747 really knew that character. 321 00:14:17,790 --> 00:14:21,142 - I thought I'd seen some mean little gals in my time, 322 00:14:21,185 --> 00:14:23,057 but you're the meanest. 323 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:24,580 - And she made it real. 324 00:14:24,623 --> 00:14:27,670 - I know what you think.I know everything you think. 325 00:14:27,713 --> 00:14:30,934 ♪ 326 00:14:30,978 --> 00:14:35,156 - Rhoda just thought she was right about everything... 327 00:14:36,766 --> 00:14:40,552 And had no problem, once she had a goal, 328 00:14:40,596 --> 00:14:43,816 and achieving that goal no matter what the cost, 329 00:14:43,860 --> 00:14:46,080 and slowly through the film, 330 00:14:46,123 --> 00:14:48,343 the mother realizes 331 00:14:48,386 --> 00:14:50,954 that her daughter is different. 332 00:14:50,998 --> 00:14:52,608 [laughs] 333 00:14:52,651 --> 00:14:55,350 Is it true that when bloodhas been washed off anything, 334 00:14:55,393 --> 00:14:57,961 a policeman can still findif it's there? 335 00:14:58,005 --> 00:15:00,485 ♪ 336 00:15:00,529 --> 00:15:03,271 narrator: "The Bad Seed" arrived in the mid 1950s, 337 00:15:03,314 --> 00:15:07,014 one of the most conservative periods in American history. 338 00:15:07,057 --> 00:15:10,234 The generation that grew up during the Great Depression 339 00:15:10,278 --> 00:15:13,629 believed in strict discipline and frowned on selfishness. 340 00:15:13,672 --> 00:15:15,631 Rhoda embodied their worst fears 341 00:15:15,674 --> 00:15:17,285 about their own children. 342 00:15:17,328 --> 00:15:19,809 - I was a child of the '50s, 343 00:15:19,852 --> 00:15:22,333 and, you know, they hit you-- you know what I mean-- 344 00:15:22,377 --> 00:15:24,379 when you were naughty. [laughs] 345 00:15:24,422 --> 00:15:26,207 No one called Child Services, you know? 346 00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:28,426 You made up your mind in one second! 347 00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:33,083 So it was so fun to be free of the constraints 348 00:15:33,127 --> 00:15:34,911 of the time. 349 00:15:34,955 --> 00:15:37,566 And I told him I'd hit him with my shoe 350 00:15:37,609 --> 00:15:39,176 if he didn't give me the medal! 351 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:41,787 - I think the film is definitely at least hinting 352 00:15:41,831 --> 00:15:45,008 at the idea that sort of capitalistic greed 353 00:15:45,052 --> 00:15:48,577 is at the heart of social decay 354 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:51,232 and maybe of Rhoda's pathology. 355 00:15:51,275 --> 00:15:54,409 - Could I have both stones? The garnet too? 356 00:15:54,452 --> 00:15:56,019 - Rhoda! - [laughs] 357 00:15:56,063 --> 00:15:57,629 - You know, that kind of rugged individualism 358 00:15:57,673 --> 00:16:01,024 in some ways kind of creates monsters 359 00:16:01,068 --> 00:16:02,765 like Rhoda, you know, 360 00:16:02,808 --> 00:16:05,115 who are willing to do whatever it takes 361 00:16:05,159 --> 00:16:08,292 to get what they want and to succeed. 362 00:16:08,336 --> 00:16:10,991 It's just a more pointed version 363 00:16:11,034 --> 00:16:13,602 of what capitalism encourages everybody to do. 364 00:16:13,645 --> 00:16:16,257 - I wish she were mine. 365 00:16:17,693 --> 00:16:19,695 narrator: What could be more frightening 366 00:16:19,738 --> 00:16:22,437 than a lone predator stalking us behind a mask of innocence? 367 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,483 A pack of young wolves 368 00:16:25,527 --> 00:16:27,268 thirsting for your blood. 369 00:16:27,311 --> 00:16:32,229 ♪ 370 00:16:35,102 --> 00:16:37,713 narrator: You can never be entirely sure 371 00:16:37,756 --> 00:16:39,497 what kids are thinking. - [screams] 372 00:16:39,541 --> 00:16:40,716 narrator: Or what they might do next. 373 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:42,935 - Aah! 374 00:16:42,979 --> 00:16:44,894 narrator: When you gather them together, 375 00:16:44,937 --> 00:16:47,984 that unpredictability leads to fun, troubling, 376 00:16:48,028 --> 00:16:50,291 and transgressive horror films. 377 00:16:50,334 --> 00:16:52,815 [scary music] 378 00:16:52,858 --> 00:16:56,775 - Kids are a bit of a mystery, and so in that mystery, 379 00:16:56,819 --> 00:17:00,127 you can tuck some really dark forces. 380 00:17:00,170 --> 00:17:02,085 Maybe they're just being a weird kid, 381 00:17:02,129 --> 00:17:04,000 or maybe you're about to die. 382 00:17:04,044 --> 00:17:05,741 [horrific musical sting] 383 00:17:05,784 --> 00:17:07,264 narrator: Few children in film history 384 00:17:07,308 --> 00:17:10,224 are as mysterious or as deadly 385 00:17:10,267 --> 00:17:12,008 as the ones in "Village of the Damned." 386 00:17:12,052 --> 00:17:16,230 ♪ 387 00:17:16,273 --> 00:17:19,363 Five months after everyone in an English village 388 00:17:19,407 --> 00:17:20,973 falls unconscious, 389 00:17:21,017 --> 00:17:23,933 12 strange children are born. 390 00:17:23,976 --> 00:17:26,457 They are emotionless, hyper intelligent, 391 00:17:26,501 --> 00:17:30,113 and have the power to read and control people's minds. 392 00:17:30,157 --> 00:17:32,507 - They're so malevolent, and they're so powerful, 393 00:17:32,550 --> 00:17:36,119 and you can't imagine the human race ever surviving 394 00:17:36,163 --> 00:17:39,122 the war with these kids, the way they get inside your head. 395 00:17:39,166 --> 00:17:42,125 narrator: We never know what led to their birth, 396 00:17:42,169 --> 00:17:43,953 but we instantly see 397 00:17:43,996 --> 00:17:46,521 that they are convinced of their absolute superiority 398 00:17:46,564 --> 00:17:48,000 to their parents. 399 00:17:48,044 --> 00:17:51,482 - You have to be taught to leave us alone. 400 00:17:51,526 --> 00:17:53,919 narrator: And that they have a hidden agenda. 401 00:17:53,963 --> 00:17:56,835 - Leave us alone. 402 00:17:56,879 --> 00:18:04,104 ♪ 403 00:18:05,148 --> 00:18:08,978 - It's also the innate fear that parents have, 404 00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:12,155 that your child is here to replace you. 405 00:18:12,199 --> 00:18:14,201 - What are you going to do with that power? 406 00:18:14,244 --> 00:18:16,116 - Father, 407 00:18:16,159 --> 00:18:18,944 we know whatyou're trying to find out. 408 00:18:18,988 --> 00:18:21,904 It'd be better if youdidn't ask these questions. 409 00:18:21,947 --> 00:18:24,994 We want to learn from you. 410 00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:26,822 - They're here because you're leaving... 411 00:18:26,865 --> 00:18:28,650 - All right, that'll be all for the day. 412 00:18:28,693 --> 00:18:30,652 - And they're gonna take over. 413 00:18:30,695 --> 00:18:34,395 And the anxiety is that they're not gonna wait. 414 00:18:35,570 --> 00:18:37,224 narrator: It's no coincidence 415 00:18:37,267 --> 00:18:39,182 that the children bear a strong resemblance 416 00:18:39,226 --> 00:18:41,576 to fanatical Hitler Youth. 417 00:18:42,881 --> 00:18:45,188 Director Wolf Rilla's family fled Nazi Germany 418 00:18:45,232 --> 00:18:47,147 when he was 14. 419 00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:51,238 He had seen the indoctrination of minors firsthand. 420 00:18:51,281 --> 00:18:54,502 The Nazis were neither the first nor the last 421 00:18:54,545 --> 00:18:57,244 to realize that ideology can be used 422 00:18:57,287 --> 00:19:00,247 to turn children into pitiless killers. 423 00:19:00,290 --> 00:19:04,860 The 1970s, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge used teenagers 424 00:19:04,903 --> 00:19:07,167 to carry out a genocidal campaign 425 00:19:07,210 --> 00:19:09,995 that left nearly 2 million people dead, 426 00:19:10,039 --> 00:19:13,260 including a sizable number of their parents. 427 00:19:14,696 --> 00:19:18,221 Very loosely adapted from a short story by Stephen King, 428 00:19:18,265 --> 00:19:21,050 written when the Khmer Rouge was in power, 429 00:19:21,093 --> 00:19:22,921 "Children of the Corn" 430 00:19:22,965 --> 00:19:25,489 begins with the mass murder of all the adults 431 00:19:25,533 --> 00:19:28,362 in a small town by young religious zealots. 432 00:19:28,405 --> 00:19:30,712 - [grunts] - No! 433 00:19:30,755 --> 00:19:32,322 - Ay! - [grunts] 434 00:19:32,366 --> 00:19:34,194 - Stop it! - [grunting] 435 00:19:34,237 --> 00:19:35,891 - What "Children of the Corn" did, 436 00:19:35,934 --> 00:19:37,240 like a lot of, you know, 437 00:19:37,284 --> 00:19:39,024 button-pushing movies of the '80s, 438 00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:40,983 is that it made kids killers. 439 00:19:41,026 --> 00:19:42,550 - [gasps] 440 00:19:42,593 --> 00:19:43,899 - Mom! 441 00:19:43,942 --> 00:19:45,292 - In the '80s, 442 00:19:45,335 --> 00:19:47,294 it was very taboo to see kids killing adults, 443 00:19:47,337 --> 00:19:49,252 kids picking up knives, kids being violent. 444 00:19:49,296 --> 00:19:52,212 - Don't do it! [screaming] 445 00:19:55,693 --> 00:19:58,522 - "Welcome to Nebraska." 446 00:19:58,566 --> 00:20:00,611 narrator: Three years after the massacre, 447 00:20:00,655 --> 00:20:03,092 two travelers find themselves under attack 448 00:20:03,135 --> 00:20:04,833 by the town's corn-worshipping kids. 449 00:20:04,876 --> 00:20:06,095 - Aah! 450 00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:07,357 - Oh! - [screaming] 451 00:20:07,401 --> 00:20:09,098 - Outlander! 452 00:20:09,141 --> 00:20:11,535 [children shouting] 453 00:20:11,579 --> 00:20:13,189 narrator: They're deemed outlanders 454 00:20:13,233 --> 00:20:16,061 who must be sacrificed to an invisible god 455 00:20:16,105 --> 00:20:18,977 called "He Who Walks Behind the Rows." 456 00:20:19,021 --> 00:20:23,112 children: Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill! 457 00:20:23,155 --> 00:20:24,766 - I kind of love the concept 458 00:20:24,809 --> 00:20:26,811 of taking something so innocent and pure 459 00:20:26,855 --> 00:20:30,032 and turning it into something cruel and malicious. 460 00:20:30,075 --> 00:20:32,382 children: Praise God! Praise the Lord! 461 00:20:32,426 --> 00:20:34,776 - As parents, that's the last thing you want. 462 00:20:34,819 --> 00:20:36,125 You wanna shield your child 463 00:20:36,168 --> 00:20:37,953 from everything wrong in the world, 464 00:20:37,996 --> 00:20:40,521 and so to see them become a part of it is like a nightmare, 465 00:20:40,564 --> 00:20:41,826 which makes it scary. [laughs] 466 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:45,090 ♪ 467 00:20:45,134 --> 00:20:48,050 narrator: The death cult is led by child preacher, Isaac, 468 00:20:48,093 --> 00:20:49,878 whose grammatical eccentricities 469 00:20:49,921 --> 00:20:51,706 rival Jedi Master Yoda. 470 00:20:51,749 --> 00:20:54,752 - Question not my judgment,Malachi. 471 00:20:54,796 --> 00:20:57,451 I am the giver of His word. 472 00:20:57,494 --> 00:21:00,062 narrator: Isaac's surly lieutenant 473 00:21:00,105 --> 00:21:02,238 is the scenery chewing Malachi. 474 00:21:02,282 --> 00:21:04,501 - We want to give you peace. 475 00:21:04,545 --> 00:21:06,068 Bring in the blood of the outlander! 476 00:21:06,111 --> 00:21:08,810 Outlander! Shut your mouth. 477 00:21:08,853 --> 00:21:10,246 - [grunts] - Aah! 478 00:21:10,290 --> 00:21:12,248 - It's one of those movies that somehow 479 00:21:12,292 --> 00:21:14,250 just got exploited to death. 480 00:21:14,294 --> 00:21:17,862 Like, the VHS 1980s audience 481 00:21:17,906 --> 00:21:19,995 just loved watching "Children of the Corn" movies 482 00:21:20,038 --> 00:21:21,213 for some reason. 483 00:21:21,257 --> 00:21:24,260 [otherworldly warbling] - No! 484 00:21:24,304 --> 00:21:29,134 [screaming] 485 00:21:29,178 --> 00:21:31,354 [explosion] 486 00:21:31,398 --> 00:21:34,357 - Well, what all these movies had in common 487 00:21:34,401 --> 00:21:36,577 was they were about kids 488 00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:39,623 supernaturally punishing their enemies, 489 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:41,364 and I think that that is something 490 00:21:41,408 --> 00:21:45,368 that is extremely attractive to young people 491 00:21:45,412 --> 00:21:49,111 who feel that they have no control over their lives. 492 00:21:49,154 --> 00:21:51,635 - What is it with this corn? 493 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:54,116 - [scoffs] You got me. 494 00:21:54,159 --> 00:21:56,205 - Look, there's a little girl. 495 00:21:56,248 --> 00:21:59,121 [uneasy music] 496 00:21:59,164 --> 00:22:01,863 ♪ 497 00:22:01,906 --> 00:22:03,517 narrator: But for a truly terrifying look 498 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,041 at children turning on adults, 499 00:22:06,084 --> 00:22:08,391 there's a deep-cut horror film you have to see. 500 00:22:08,435 --> 00:22:11,133 ♪ 501 00:22:11,176 --> 00:22:13,309 - Tom! What's she doing? 502 00:22:13,353 --> 00:22:17,487 ♪ 503 00:22:17,531 --> 00:22:20,098 - There's a movie called "Who Can Kill a Child?" 504 00:22:20,142 --> 00:22:22,579 A Spanish movie which, um, involves 505 00:22:22,623 --> 00:22:25,843 an entire island filled with murderous children. 506 00:22:25,887 --> 00:22:28,803 [playful commotion] 507 00:22:28,846 --> 00:22:32,328 [horror music] 508 00:22:32,372 --> 00:22:34,939 ♪ 509 00:22:34,983 --> 00:22:38,726 It's like the protagonists are surrounded by wild dogs. 510 00:22:38,769 --> 00:22:40,075 They look cute, but they're gonna bite you. 511 00:22:40,118 --> 00:22:42,425 [eerie psychic tones] 512 00:22:42,469 --> 00:22:45,863 narrator: The children are infected by a psychic virus 513 00:22:45,907 --> 00:22:48,823 that compels them to kill every adult. 514 00:22:48,866 --> 00:22:51,826 Adults are powerless to defend themselves 515 00:22:51,869 --> 00:22:53,523 because who can kill a child? 516 00:22:56,483 --> 00:22:57,701 - No!Tom! 517 00:22:59,486 --> 00:23:00,704 - You don't wanna punch a child. 518 00:23:00,748 --> 00:23:02,010 You don't wanna kick a child. 519 00:23:02,053 --> 00:23:03,968 They're scary, but you're like, 520 00:23:04,012 --> 00:23:06,580 "I can't do anything. It's an actual child." 521 00:23:06,623 --> 00:23:10,932 ♪ 522 00:23:10,975 --> 00:23:13,978 And so it's a very unnerving thing 523 00:23:14,022 --> 00:23:16,241 to watch a scary child 524 00:23:16,285 --> 00:23:17,634 or a child with a knife or anything like that. 525 00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:23,379 [gunshot] - [gasps] 526 00:23:23,423 --> 00:23:25,599 narrator: The real horror of these films 527 00:23:25,642 --> 00:23:28,384 is watching children blinded by ideology, 528 00:23:28,428 --> 00:23:30,995 lacking empathy, filled with rage, 529 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:32,432 capable of anything. 530 00:23:32,475 --> 00:23:34,521 - [screams] 531 00:23:34,564 --> 00:23:37,611 narrator: In other words, children behaving like adults. 532 00:23:37,654 --> 00:23:40,135 [gunshot] 533 00:23:40,178 --> 00:23:42,137 Few films have better expressed 534 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:44,226 the fear that our children 535 00:23:44,269 --> 00:23:46,707 are twisted reflections of ourselves than "The Brood." 536 00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:48,273 ♪ 537 00:23:50,885 --> 00:23:53,017 - [grunts] 538 00:23:53,061 --> 00:23:56,325 narrator: Mutant children begin murdering people 539 00:23:56,368 --> 00:23:57,979 a man's bitter ex-wife doesn't like. 540 00:23:58,022 --> 00:23:59,763 - Nola? 541 00:23:59,807 --> 00:24:01,809 - [screams] 542 00:24:01,852 --> 00:24:04,115 narrator: He suspects it's connected 543 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:06,596 to her psychiatrist's radical treatment for anger. 544 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,337 - [screams] 545 00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:12,341 - This is David Cronenberg's 1979 masterpiece, 546 00:24:12,384 --> 00:24:14,343 "The Brood." - Aah! 547 00:24:14,386 --> 00:24:17,302 - That was another movie that I saw as a young person 548 00:24:17,346 --> 00:24:20,523 that just, um, kind of cracks open your mind, you know? 549 00:24:20,567 --> 00:24:23,483 [unsettling music] 550 00:24:23,526 --> 00:24:27,008 - David Cronenberg is one of the few directors 551 00:24:27,051 --> 00:24:30,402 who's able to take an exploitation subject 552 00:24:30,446 --> 00:24:32,230 such as a horror film 553 00:24:32,274 --> 00:24:34,755 but make it personal to him... 554 00:24:34,798 --> 00:24:37,714 - [screaming] 555 00:24:40,282 --> 00:24:41,892 - [screams] 556 00:24:41,936 --> 00:24:44,025 - And if it is possible, 557 00:24:44,068 --> 00:24:46,070 and I think it is possible, 558 00:24:46,114 --> 00:24:49,334 to make an art/horror film, 559 00:24:49,378 --> 00:24:52,599 David Cronenberg is one of the few who can do it. 560 00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:57,952 - And the thing with "The Brood" 561 00:24:57,995 --> 00:24:59,606 is he calls it his horror version 562 00:24:59,649 --> 00:25:01,477 of "Kramer vs. Kramer," 563 00:25:01,521 --> 00:25:04,349 because he was going through, like, a bitter custody dispute 564 00:25:04,393 --> 00:25:06,613 at the time, and "The Brood" is his way of, um... 565 00:25:06,656 --> 00:25:09,616 [laughing] Dealing with it. 566 00:25:10,355 --> 00:25:12,619 - Art Hindle plays the husband 567 00:25:12,662 --> 00:25:15,143 to this woman played by Samantha Eggar, 568 00:25:15,186 --> 00:25:16,884 who has left him and gone 569 00:25:16,927 --> 00:25:18,581 and joined this, uh, 570 00:25:18,625 --> 00:25:21,976 experimental therapy commune 571 00:25:22,019 --> 00:25:24,326 which is run by a doctor named Hal Raglan, 572 00:25:24,369 --> 00:25:26,154 played by Oliver Reed. 573 00:25:26,197 --> 00:25:28,460 - Right now you're dreaming. 574 00:25:28,504 --> 00:25:30,985 From what Frank tells me, it was lousy from the very start. 575 00:25:31,028 --> 00:25:33,204 You never had anything real together. 576 00:25:34,292 --> 00:25:37,252 - The husband has been sending the daughter 577 00:25:37,295 --> 00:25:40,168 to go visit periodically and then he starts to believe 578 00:25:40,211 --> 00:25:42,823 that the mother is harming the daughter 579 00:25:42,866 --> 00:25:44,825 because the daughter keeps coming home with bruises 580 00:25:44,868 --> 00:25:46,609 and marks on her body. 581 00:25:46,653 --> 00:25:48,393 - And that's very unfair of him. 582 00:25:48,437 --> 00:25:50,221 That's very arrogant of him. 583 00:25:50,265 --> 00:25:53,094 - You mus'n't be too hardon him, Nola, sweetheart. 584 00:25:53,137 --> 00:25:55,705 He's just trying to bea good protective father. 585 00:25:55,749 --> 00:25:58,316 - She needs to stay very far away from her child, uh, 586 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,102 but her body is reacting to this rage 587 00:26:01,145 --> 00:26:03,495 and manifesting these weird 588 00:26:03,539 --> 00:26:05,367 creature children. 589 00:26:05,410 --> 00:26:06,847 - [snarls] 590 00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:10,415 ♪ 591 00:26:10,459 --> 00:26:12,243 - They're children, Frank. 592 00:26:12,287 --> 00:26:15,377 Or exactly, they're the children of her rage. 593 00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:17,205 They're motivated only by her anger, 594 00:26:17,248 --> 00:26:19,816 whether that anger is conscious or subconscious. 595 00:26:21,078 --> 00:26:25,213 I mean, when--when Nola got cross with Candy last weekend, 596 00:26:25,256 --> 00:26:28,651 annoyed really, the brood beat her. 597 00:26:28,695 --> 00:26:31,480 - A lot of films have an idea 598 00:26:31,523 --> 00:26:35,092 of one of your, like, fears or anxieties being made flesh, 599 00:26:35,136 --> 00:26:37,704 and in that movie, they actually do it. 600 00:26:37,747 --> 00:26:39,183 That's what the movie is about. 601 00:26:39,227 --> 00:26:41,011 People are so angry 602 00:26:41,055 --> 00:26:43,971 that some people can develop physical welts 603 00:26:44,014 --> 00:26:45,581 through their anger, 604 00:26:45,625 --> 00:26:48,279 and one woman can actually develop extra beings, 605 00:26:48,323 --> 00:26:49,541 she is so angry. 606 00:26:49,585 --> 00:26:52,544 [brood snarling] 607 00:26:52,588 --> 00:26:53,763 - [cackles] - Aah! 608 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:58,376 - The look of them, it was so imaginative, you know? 609 00:26:58,420 --> 00:27:01,379 They have no navel, and they can't speak, 610 00:27:01,423 --> 00:27:03,991 and they have a cleft palate. 611 00:27:04,034 --> 00:27:05,601 It's just, you know, they were born of something 612 00:27:05,645 --> 00:27:06,950 that should never have happened. 613 00:27:09,083 --> 00:27:10,737 - There's a really creepy shot 614 00:27:10,780 --> 00:27:12,826 where they kidnap the main character's kid, 615 00:27:12,869 --> 00:27:15,350 the two parka monsters, 616 00:27:15,393 --> 00:27:17,308 and they're just three kids walking down a road 617 00:27:17,352 --> 00:27:19,659 in the snow and a car drives past. 618 00:27:21,922 --> 00:27:23,532 - Kids in horror together 619 00:27:23,575 --> 00:27:26,100 is always something that's unsettling to watch. 620 00:27:26,143 --> 00:27:28,537 - Ooh, you do-- this margin. 621 00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:32,759 ♪ 622 00:27:32,802 --> 00:27:34,674 - A scene, like, where the school teacher is murdered 623 00:27:34,717 --> 00:27:36,545 by the brood in front of the kids 624 00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:38,765 is so deeply distressing... 625 00:27:38,808 --> 00:27:41,332 - [screams] - Don't--oh! 626 00:27:41,376 --> 00:27:44,640 - [screaming] - Aah, ow! 627 00:27:44,684 --> 00:27:47,208 [screams] 628 00:27:47,251 --> 00:27:49,645 You know, the guardian is, like, killed 629 00:27:49,689 --> 00:27:53,127 in front of the kids by these monsters is, like, terrifying. 630 00:27:53,170 --> 00:27:56,391 One most of the most, like, terrifying scenes in cinema. 631 00:27:56,434 --> 00:28:00,787 [children whimpering and crying] 632 00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:02,484 - And I'm sure that's a scene 633 00:28:02,527 --> 00:28:04,529 where a lot of critics wrote that film off 634 00:28:04,573 --> 00:28:06,140 on the basis of that scene alone. 635 00:28:06,183 --> 00:28:07,881 It was like, "No, you've crossed a line here." 636 00:28:07,924 --> 00:28:10,579 ♪ 637 00:28:10,622 --> 00:28:12,668 - Art Hindle discovers what's happening 638 00:28:12,712 --> 00:28:13,756 and he has to confront her. 639 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,672 [dramatic music] 640 00:28:16,716 --> 00:28:19,457 ♪ 641 00:28:19,501 --> 00:28:21,982 When he actually sees what his wife is doing... 642 00:28:22,025 --> 00:28:23,635 [laughs] 643 00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:25,986 And you see her manifesting one of these-- 644 00:28:26,029 --> 00:28:27,770 these children and licking it 645 00:28:27,814 --> 00:28:30,730 like a--like a mother cat licks a newborn kitten. 646 00:28:33,297 --> 00:28:34,864 It is sensational. 647 00:28:34,908 --> 00:28:37,127 - Oh, God, Nola. 648 00:28:38,955 --> 00:28:41,044 - No. 649 00:28:41,088 --> 00:28:42,654 I disgust you. 650 00:28:42,698 --> 00:28:44,439 - The film is not especially sympathetic 651 00:28:44,482 --> 00:28:45,875 towards the mother, 652 00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:47,442 the female character, Samantha Eggar. 653 00:28:47,485 --> 00:28:49,661 - You hate me. 654 00:28:49,705 --> 00:28:52,316 - But if you talk to a lot of women 655 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,101 who love that film, you know, 656 00:28:54,144 --> 00:28:55,798 they get very different things out of it. 657 00:28:55,842 --> 00:28:58,235 - 30 seconds after you're born, you have a past, 658 00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,194 and 60 seconds after that, 659 00:29:00,237 --> 00:29:02,413 you start to lie to yourself about it. 660 00:29:02,457 --> 00:29:04,241 - The anxiety around having children, 661 00:29:04,285 --> 00:29:07,505 around loving children, loving them too much, 662 00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:09,333 um, wanting to destroy them... 663 00:29:09,377 --> 00:29:12,380 What if there's a sort of mutant quality to the-- 664 00:29:12,423 --> 00:29:14,251 to the children we bring in to the world? 665 00:29:16,732 --> 00:29:18,473 narrator: The ultimate message of the film 666 00:29:18,516 --> 00:29:22,042 is that broken marriages create broken children. 667 00:29:22,085 --> 00:29:24,696 - I love the end of "The Brood" 668 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:26,873 where it closes in on the little girl, 669 00:29:26,916 --> 00:29:30,311 and you see the rage blisters developing on her arm. 670 00:29:30,354 --> 00:29:32,269 She's Mommy's girl. 671 00:29:34,968 --> 00:29:36,970 narrator: Society expects parents 672 00:29:37,013 --> 00:29:39,233 to love their children unconditionally, 673 00:29:39,276 --> 00:29:41,365 no matter how awful they may be, 674 00:29:41,409 --> 00:29:43,324 but everyone has their limits. 675 00:29:43,367 --> 00:29:45,021 [horrific musical sting] 676 00:29:45,065 --> 00:29:46,631 ♪ 677 00:29:49,939 --> 00:29:51,680 - Honey? 678 00:29:51,723 --> 00:29:53,073 Frank? 679 00:29:53,116 --> 00:29:55,075 - Somebody kicking again? 680 00:29:55,118 --> 00:29:57,294 - No, it stopped. 681 00:29:58,339 --> 00:30:00,123 narrator: Some men have problems adapting 682 00:30:00,167 --> 00:30:02,125 to the increased responsibilities 683 00:30:02,169 --> 00:30:04,171 and stresses that come with fatherhood. 684 00:30:04,214 --> 00:30:06,173 - We're slowly but surely poisoning ourselves, 685 00:30:06,216 --> 00:30:07,739 you know that? 686 00:30:07,783 --> 00:30:09,132 - Fine world to bring a kid into, fellas. 687 00:30:10,917 --> 00:30:13,093 narrator: The problem is particularly acute 688 00:30:13,136 --> 00:30:15,704 when your child is a monster baby. 689 00:30:15,747 --> 00:30:17,053 [horrific musical sting] 690 00:30:17,097 --> 00:30:20,970 - [screaming] 691 00:30:25,888 --> 00:30:28,108 - "It's Alive" was made in the mid '70s 692 00:30:28,151 --> 00:30:29,805 by Larry Cohen. 693 00:30:31,763 --> 00:30:35,550 And it's the story of an experimental drug 694 00:30:35,593 --> 00:30:36,943 that has the effect 695 00:30:36,986 --> 00:30:39,554 of turning these babies 696 00:30:39,597 --> 00:30:42,818 into little demonic-- 697 00:30:42,862 --> 00:30:44,689 You know the song "Baby Shark?" [laughs] 698 00:30:44,733 --> 00:30:46,561 - [wailing] 699 00:30:46,604 --> 00:30:49,042 - Baby sharks. You know, they are babies, 700 00:30:49,085 --> 00:30:51,305 but they have giant fangs, and they're carnivorous. 701 00:30:53,133 --> 00:30:55,048 - Rick Baker did this baby which, you know, 702 00:30:55,091 --> 00:30:56,919 is--is fairly inanimate, 703 00:30:56,963 --> 00:31:00,314 and--and so you've gotta be careful how you cut around it 704 00:31:00,357 --> 00:31:01,663 because it's not really very mobile. 705 00:31:01,706 --> 00:31:03,883 It's more of an idea. 706 00:31:03,926 --> 00:31:06,929 And it's a very clever movie. 707 00:31:06,973 --> 00:31:09,149 narrator: "It's Alive" was a low-budget movie 708 00:31:09,192 --> 00:31:11,412 that explored big ideas. 709 00:31:11,455 --> 00:31:12,761 - It's a human, doctor. 710 00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:14,371 That's what's disgusting to you, isn't it? 711 00:31:14,415 --> 00:31:17,026 - It kills like an animal. 712 00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:18,854 - And when we find it, 713 00:31:18,898 --> 00:31:21,422 we're gonna have to destroy itlike one. 714 00:31:21,465 --> 00:31:23,946 narrator: The rampaging baby isn't evil; 715 00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:26,514 it's a frightened and confused newborn. 716 00:31:26,557 --> 00:31:28,429 The real villains of "It's Alive" 717 00:31:28,472 --> 00:31:30,953 are the mother's untrustworthy doctors 718 00:31:30,997 --> 00:31:33,347 who are being paid off by drug companies 719 00:31:33,390 --> 00:31:35,175 to push their defective products. 720 00:31:35,218 --> 00:31:38,004 - We have an openingon the board 721 00:31:38,047 --> 00:31:40,963 of our researchand development department. 722 00:31:41,007 --> 00:31:44,010 Now, we wouldn't want peopleto lose faith in us, would we? 723 00:31:47,535 --> 00:31:51,060 - In the '50s and '60s, there was a drug called Thalidomide 724 00:31:51,104 --> 00:31:53,236 that was sold to expectant mothers, 725 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,587 and it created horrific birth defects. 726 00:31:56,631 --> 00:32:00,200 - Mrs. Davis, I don't supposeyou took the pills I gave you? 727 00:32:00,243 --> 00:32:02,985 You really should, you know. 728 00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:04,987 - Maybe it's all the pills I've been taking over the years 729 00:32:05,031 --> 00:32:07,120 that brought this on. 730 00:32:07,163 --> 00:32:10,645 - This is a movie that came out of a real horror. 731 00:32:10,688 --> 00:32:14,083 - Where are you? Look out, Charley! 732 00:32:14,127 --> 00:32:16,042 - [snarling] - [screams] 733 00:32:16,085 --> 00:32:17,608 [gunshot] 734 00:32:17,652 --> 00:32:19,610 - "It's Alive" dramatizes the idea of, you know, 735 00:32:19,654 --> 00:32:22,004 a monster kind of born, you know, 736 00:32:22,048 --> 00:32:23,963 and it's because of environmental factors 737 00:32:24,006 --> 00:32:26,617 so it works in that whole eco-horror theme, 738 00:32:26,661 --> 00:32:29,664 but it's also just very much about the idea, you know, 739 00:32:29,707 --> 00:32:31,927 that for men, childbirth is something 740 00:32:31,971 --> 00:32:34,495 over which they're going to exercise little control, 741 00:32:34,538 --> 00:32:36,105 and, you know, 742 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:37,759 what's going to happen, you know, with this birth? 743 00:32:37,802 --> 00:32:40,631 [baby screaming] - [screaming] 744 00:32:42,242 --> 00:32:44,287 - With his monster child on the loose, 745 00:32:44,331 --> 00:32:46,376 the father's life falls apart. 746 00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:47,725 - Mr. Davis,what did it look like, 747 00:32:47,769 --> 00:32:48,988 if you were to describeit to us? 748 00:32:49,031 --> 00:32:50,772 - Leave me alone. I've got nothing to say. 749 00:32:50,815 --> 00:32:51,991 narrator: When the story gets out, he loses his job; 750 00:32:52,034 --> 00:32:54,036 he's harassed by the media; 751 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,169 and his family life crumbles. 752 00:32:56,212 --> 00:32:57,431 - Get outta my way! 753 00:32:57,474 --> 00:32:58,954 I don't know what it looks like. 754 00:32:58,998 --> 00:33:00,608 - Where is your baby? - Never mind my baby! 755 00:33:00,651 --> 00:33:02,523 Leave my wife out of it, you understand me? 756 00:33:02,566 --> 00:33:04,481 - John Ryan in "It's Alive," 757 00:33:04,525 --> 00:33:06,179 an absolutely amazing performance. 758 00:33:06,222 --> 00:33:08,268 He's really powerful, really compelling. 759 00:33:08,311 --> 00:33:09,965 - And why is everybodylooking at me? 760 00:33:11,358 --> 00:33:13,360 Yeah. 761 00:33:13,403 --> 00:33:15,884 Like it's my own fleshand blood or something. 762 00:33:15,927 --> 00:33:17,451 [tragic music] 763 00:33:17,494 --> 00:33:20,106 Well, it's not,understand? 764 00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:21,585 ♪ 765 00:33:21,629 --> 00:33:23,370 It's no relation to me. 766 00:33:23,413 --> 00:33:25,633 narrator: By the film's climax, 767 00:33:25,676 --> 00:33:27,374 the father is helping the police 768 00:33:27,417 --> 00:33:29,115 chase his killer newborn 769 00:33:29,158 --> 00:33:31,073 through the storm drains of LA. 770 00:33:31,117 --> 00:33:33,423 - There's the innate funny of, like, 771 00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:34,729 guys with shotguns going out to hunt babies. 772 00:33:34,772 --> 00:33:37,645 - [agonized screaming] 773 00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:44,391 - That moment when he realizes, like, he can't 774 00:33:44,434 --> 00:33:47,220 'cause it's his child is just--that's amazing. 775 00:33:47,263 --> 00:33:48,786 That's an incredible sequence. 776 00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:51,093 - Can you hear me, Frank? 777 00:33:51,137 --> 00:33:53,487 It can't be saved!It's gotta die! 778 00:33:53,530 --> 00:33:55,576 [baby crying] Do you hear me, Frank? 779 00:33:55,619 --> 00:33:58,492 [suspenseful music] 780 00:33:58,535 --> 00:34:00,929 ♪ 781 00:34:00,972 --> 00:34:03,279 - John Ryan's dealing with those conflicting emotions 782 00:34:03,323 --> 00:34:04,933 of, "My kid's a monster, but he's my kid. 783 00:34:04,976 --> 00:34:06,239 I must protect him," 784 00:34:06,282 --> 00:34:07,283 and that's, you know, a primal urge. 785 00:34:07,327 --> 00:34:09,633 [baby crying] 786 00:34:09,677 --> 00:34:11,679 narrator: Like many confused patriarchs 787 00:34:11,722 --> 00:34:13,507 who weathered the social storms 788 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:15,161 of the '60s and '70s, 789 00:34:15,204 --> 00:34:17,293 the father comes to accept his problem child. 790 00:34:17,337 --> 00:34:18,816 [sirens blaring] 791 00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:21,558 - It can't hurt anybody! 792 00:34:21,602 --> 00:34:23,604 Hey, look, if you fellas shoot, you're gonna shoot me. 793 00:34:23,647 --> 00:34:25,127 Now, put the weapon down. Look, it's harmless. 794 00:34:25,171 --> 00:34:26,085 - Take it easy.Take it easy. 795 00:34:26,128 --> 00:34:29,262 - [crying] 796 00:34:29,305 --> 00:34:31,525 narrator: Other films have tried to recapture 797 00:34:31,568 --> 00:34:33,222 the shock of "It's Alive." 798 00:34:35,181 --> 00:34:38,619 - Aah! - [screaming] 799 00:34:38,662 --> 00:34:41,230 - [screams] 800 00:34:41,274 --> 00:34:43,841 narrator: But no one has even attempted to top 801 00:34:43,885 --> 00:34:46,017 the ultimate evil baby movie: 802 00:34:46,061 --> 00:34:48,063 "Eraserhead." 803 00:34:48,107 --> 00:34:49,760 ♪ 804 00:34:52,763 --> 00:34:55,462 narrator: Of all the movies ever made 805 00:34:55,505 --> 00:34:57,246 about the terrors of parenthood, 806 00:34:57,290 --> 00:35:00,162 nothing to compares to David Lynch's masterpiece, 807 00:35:00,206 --> 00:35:01,468 "Eraserhead." 808 00:35:01,511 --> 00:35:04,384 [terrifying music] 809 00:35:04,427 --> 00:35:06,299 ♪ 810 00:35:06,342 --> 00:35:09,606 - "Eraserhead" is not what people would think of 811 00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:12,218 as horror in the traditional sense, but, boy, 812 00:35:12,261 --> 00:35:14,307 that's what makes horror such an interesting genre, 813 00:35:14,350 --> 00:35:15,830 'cause you can fit so many things in it. 814 00:35:15,873 --> 00:35:18,311 Because as an adult, 815 00:35:18,354 --> 00:35:22,228 I can't think of very many movies I found that disturbing 816 00:35:22,271 --> 00:35:23,577 and horrifying and scary. 817 00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:30,192 ♪ 818 00:35:30,236 --> 00:35:33,152 - Lynch is just one of those filmmakers 819 00:35:33,195 --> 00:35:35,023 who--he opens the medium up for you, you know? 820 00:35:35,066 --> 00:35:36,894 Like, you watch a Lynch film and you realize, 821 00:35:36,938 --> 00:35:38,722 "Oh, like, there's so much that can be done." 822 00:35:38,766 --> 00:35:41,464 [smoke exhausts] 823 00:35:41,508 --> 00:35:43,945 narrator: "Eraserhead's" plot defies description, 824 00:35:43,988 --> 00:35:47,296 but it begins as the movie's protagonist, Henry, 825 00:35:47,340 --> 00:35:50,212 arrives for dinner with his girlfriend, Mary, 826 00:35:50,256 --> 00:35:52,040 at her parents' house. 827 00:35:52,083 --> 00:35:53,955 - [moaning] 828 00:35:53,998 --> 00:35:57,741 - It's completely surreal and a completely alien world, 829 00:35:57,785 --> 00:36:00,222 but so sticks to its own rules, 830 00:36:00,266 --> 00:36:03,312 that it just attains a reality all its own. 831 00:36:03,356 --> 00:36:06,489 - [crying] 832 00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:09,013 - She'll be all right in a minute. 833 00:36:09,057 --> 00:36:11,015 - [cries] 834 00:36:11,059 --> 00:36:12,669 - Every time I see the film, I see something different. 835 00:36:12,713 --> 00:36:14,062 I have a different experience. 836 00:36:14,105 --> 00:36:15,368 Scenes that disturbed me now make me laugh, 837 00:36:15,411 --> 00:36:16,717 things that made me laugh now disturb me, 838 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,588 often simultaneously. 839 00:36:18,632 --> 00:36:22,201 - You're very bad trouble if you won't cooperate. 840 00:36:22,244 --> 00:36:25,160 [heavy breathing] 841 00:36:29,773 --> 00:36:31,601 - Well, I... 842 00:36:34,082 --> 00:36:36,084 Mary! 843 00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:38,042 - Mother! [crying] 844 00:36:38,086 --> 00:36:41,481 - So much of Lynch is sort of, like, deliberately wrong. 845 00:36:41,524 --> 00:36:44,310 - There's a baby. It's at the hospital. 846 00:36:44,353 --> 00:36:46,790 - Mom! - And you're the father. 847 00:36:48,183 --> 00:36:50,229 - That's impossible.It's only been-- 848 00:36:50,272 --> 00:36:52,274 - Mother, they're still not sure it is a baby! 849 00:36:52,318 --> 00:36:55,016 - It's premature, but there's a baby! 850 00:36:55,059 --> 00:36:57,236 - And it's just wrong in the right way. 851 00:37:01,675 --> 00:37:04,808 - The first thing you see onscreen in "Eraserhead" 852 00:37:04,852 --> 00:37:08,159 is, like--is Henry, his head is just floating in space, 853 00:37:08,203 --> 00:37:12,033 and he's emitting all of these umbilical weird creatures 854 00:37:12,076 --> 00:37:13,469 out of his mouth. 855 00:37:13,513 --> 00:37:16,472 [organ music] 856 00:37:16,516 --> 00:37:20,781 ♪ 857 00:37:20,824 --> 00:37:23,697 - And then when you see The Lady in the Radiator, 858 00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:24,785 they're falling from the ceiling, 859 00:37:24,828 --> 00:37:25,786 and she's stepping on them. 860 00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:26,874 [bursting squish] 861 00:37:32,358 --> 00:37:34,925 She's stepping on these creatures that he has-- 862 00:37:34,969 --> 00:37:36,884 These, like, weird, ugly creatures 863 00:37:36,927 --> 00:37:39,147 that he's birthed. 864 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:41,367 [bursting squish] 865 00:37:44,065 --> 00:37:45,936 - And then she's just singing, "In Heaven Everything is Fine." 866 00:37:45,980 --> 00:37:49,331 - ♪ In heaven 867 00:37:49,375 --> 00:37:52,900 ♪ Everything is fine 868 00:37:52,943 --> 00:37:55,816 ♪ In heaven 869 00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:59,341 ♪ Everything is fine 870 00:37:59,385 --> 00:38:01,474 - It's, like, she's just assuring him, 871 00:38:01,517 --> 00:38:03,780 like, "No matter what kind of ugly creature 872 00:38:03,824 --> 00:38:06,740 you give birth to, everything's gonna be okay." 873 00:38:06,783 --> 00:38:11,701 - ♪ You got your good things 874 00:38:11,745 --> 00:38:14,878 ♪ And I've got mine 875 00:38:17,011 --> 00:38:18,752 - So many people told me how weird it was, 876 00:38:18,795 --> 00:38:22,016 and I didn't--I go, "Oh, this is a movie about a guy 877 00:38:22,059 --> 00:38:24,540 "you know, afraid of getting married 878 00:38:24,584 --> 00:38:27,021 and having a kid, you know?" [laughs] 879 00:38:27,064 --> 00:38:30,024 [baby crying] 880 00:38:30,067 --> 00:38:32,983 [wind howling] 881 00:38:33,027 --> 00:38:34,811 And you watch it, and you go, 882 00:38:34,855 --> 00:38:36,726 "I bet this guy was, you know, married and had a kid 883 00:38:36,770 --> 00:38:38,075 and was freaked out." 884 00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:39,381 - Shut up! 885 00:38:39,425 --> 00:38:42,341 [baby continues crying] 886 00:38:44,473 --> 00:38:46,040 Shut up! 887 00:38:46,083 --> 00:38:48,869 - And then I, you know, read his book, 888 00:38:48,912 --> 00:38:50,218 and, yeah, he was. [laughs] 889 00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:51,698 You know, it was just, like, 890 00:38:51,741 --> 00:38:53,787 it was an artistic expression of his fears. 891 00:38:53,830 --> 00:38:56,398 - I can't stand it! I'm going home. 892 00:38:56,442 --> 00:38:59,836 - Getting this girl pregnant who's a little crazy, 893 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,883 and she doesn't like him, and, you know, 894 00:39:02,926 --> 00:39:04,450 and they have this really acrimonious relationship. 895 00:39:04,493 --> 00:39:06,060 - You're on vacation now! 896 00:39:06,103 --> 00:39:08,454 You can take care of it for a night! 897 00:39:08,497 --> 00:39:10,238 - And the fear of having a baby, 898 00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:12,414 and what if that baby is deformed? 899 00:39:12,458 --> 00:39:16,157 [rain pours] 900 00:39:17,506 --> 00:39:21,118 - "Eraserhead," I think, more than any evil child film 901 00:39:21,162 --> 00:39:26,776 perfectly encapsulates the anxiety of a parent. 902 00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:28,822 - [pained gurgles] 903 00:39:28,865 --> 00:39:31,215 [tense music] 904 00:39:31,259 --> 00:39:34,784 - That what you will give birth to 905 00:39:34,828 --> 00:39:37,483 is this uncontrollable monster. [laughing] 906 00:39:37,526 --> 00:39:44,794 ♪ 907 00:39:45,578 --> 00:39:47,884 - I always remember when the baby's crying, 908 00:39:47,928 --> 00:39:50,147 and it's in the night 909 00:39:50,191 --> 00:39:52,802 and then he turns on the light 910 00:39:52,846 --> 00:39:54,891 and--and the baby has all the sores over his face. 911 00:39:54,935 --> 00:39:56,980 - [pained breathing] 912 00:39:57,024 --> 00:40:00,419 - Jack Nance goes... both: "Oh, you are sick." 913 00:40:00,462 --> 00:40:03,073 - [laughs] I was like, "Jesus Christ." 914 00:40:03,117 --> 00:40:06,076 - [panting and crying] 915 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,209 [disturbing music] 916 00:40:08,252 --> 00:40:10,516 - Of course the ending where he kills the baby. 917 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:17,479 ♪ 918 00:40:19,786 --> 00:40:21,222 I mean, every time I see that film, 919 00:40:21,265 --> 00:40:22,876 I'm shocked at that ending 920 00:40:22,919 --> 00:40:24,486 because it seems to rush at you. 921 00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:29,796 ♪ 922 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:31,493 And just knock the wind out of you. 923 00:40:31,537 --> 00:40:34,409 [blaring industrial humming] 924 00:40:35,802 --> 00:40:38,195 I guess he transcends, right? 925 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,547 And then he's embraced by The Lady in the Radiator. 926 00:40:41,590 --> 00:40:44,637 [blaring industrial humming] 927 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,291 - You don't know exactly what it meant literally 928 00:40:47,335 --> 00:40:50,773 to know what it meant figuratively, subtextually. 929 00:40:50,817 --> 00:40:53,646 [soft piano music] 930 00:40:53,689 --> 00:40:56,649 It's a pretty unique movie 931 00:40:56,692 --> 00:40:58,738 that stands alone, you know, in that way. 932 00:40:58,781 --> 00:41:01,305 - [crying] 933 00:41:01,349 --> 00:41:04,352 - It's really unnerving, but it means something. 934 00:41:04,395 --> 00:41:08,356 It's not just kind of surface and there for effect. 935 00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:11,098 It's just very honest and heartbreaking. 936 00:41:11,141 --> 00:41:12,578 ♪ 937 00:41:12,621 --> 00:41:14,580 [scary music] 938 00:41:14,623 --> 00:41:17,234 narrator: The chilling children and terrible tykes 939 00:41:17,278 --> 00:41:18,714 of the movies can be frightening, 940 00:41:18,758 --> 00:41:20,020 especially if you're a parent. 941 00:41:20,063 --> 00:41:21,891 - [screams] 942 00:41:21,935 --> 00:41:24,372 narrator: But they can also be oddly comforting. 943 00:41:24,415 --> 00:41:27,027 - [screaming] 944 00:41:27,070 --> 00:41:28,550 narrator: Showing us that no matter how 945 00:41:28,594 --> 00:41:30,683 difficult your son or daughter may be, 946 00:41:30,726 --> 00:41:32,293 things could be much worse. 947 00:41:32,336 --> 00:41:34,251 ♪ 948 00:41:34,295 --> 00:41:36,776 So if you're thinking of having a baby, 949 00:41:36,819 --> 00:41:39,082 but having second thoughts, don't worry. 950 00:41:39,126 --> 00:41:42,564 Your kids will probably turn out just fine. 951 00:41:42,608 --> 00:41:43,522 - [screaming] - [screaming]