1 00:00:01,239 --> 00:00:03,763 - By the pricking of my thumbs, 2 00:00:03,807 --> 00:00:06,462 something wicked this way comes. 3 00:00:06,505 --> 00:00:08,420 [laughter] 4 00:00:08,464 --> 00:00:10,161 - [gasps] 5 00:00:10,205 --> 00:00:11,641 male narrator: Who's afraid of a wicked witch? 6 00:00:11,684 --> 00:00:13,208 - [laughs] [both screaming] 7 00:00:13,251 --> 00:00:15,123 narrator: Everybody. 8 00:00:15,166 --> 00:00:16,820 - "The Witch" is a perfect example 9 00:00:16,863 --> 00:00:18,561 of an atmospheric horror movie. 10 00:00:18,604 --> 00:00:20,171 - [growls] 11 00:00:20,215 --> 00:00:21,825 - It was one of the scariest films I've ever seen. 12 00:00:21,868 --> 00:00:23,218 - [screams] 13 00:00:23,261 --> 00:00:24,697 - Sometimes an evil witch 14 00:00:24,741 --> 00:00:26,308 is just gonna come back and haunt you. 15 00:00:26,351 --> 00:00:28,179 - [screams] 16 00:00:28,223 --> 00:00:29,746 - What are you gonna do? 17 00:00:29,789 --> 00:00:32,662 - Hello? - [screams] 18 00:00:32,705 --> 00:00:34,055 - Who would've thought "The Blair Witch Project" 19 00:00:34,098 --> 00:00:35,708 would work the way that it was. 20 00:00:35,752 --> 00:00:37,623 It's disturbing. 21 00:00:37,667 --> 00:00:41,236 - I mean, this was kamikaze filmmaking at its greatest. 22 00:00:41,279 --> 00:00:42,759 It changed filmmaking. 23 00:00:42,802 --> 00:00:44,978 [scary music] 24 00:00:45,022 --> 00:00:48,417 - And it's always been that the witch has negative intentions. 25 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:51,985 She's punished at some point for having the power. 26 00:00:52,029 --> 00:00:53,552 - You're a witch. 27 00:00:53,596 --> 00:00:54,945 - A solitary witch is one thing, 28 00:00:54,988 --> 00:00:57,382 but a group a women working together 29 00:00:57,426 --> 00:00:59,428 creating power that's more than the sum of its parts, 30 00:00:59,471 --> 00:01:02,170 is just... 31 00:01:02,213 --> 00:01:03,910 exhilarating. 32 00:01:03,954 --> 00:01:06,130 [cheers and applause] 33 00:01:06,174 --> 00:01:09,133 - We were one of the first new waves of bringing witchcraft 34 00:01:09,177 --> 00:01:11,440 and paganism to the future. 35 00:01:11,483 --> 00:01:12,963 [glass breaking] - Aah! 36 00:01:13,006 --> 00:01:15,096 - "Suspiria" just feels weird at all times. 37 00:01:15,139 --> 00:01:16,488 - [screams] 38 00:01:16,532 --> 00:01:18,969 - It's just so awesome. 39 00:01:19,012 --> 00:01:21,145 - We don't have consider the rules and world of men at all. 40 00:01:21,189 --> 00:01:22,886 - [grunts] - Aah! 41 00:01:22,929 --> 00:01:25,410 - They're outside of all of our concerns here. 42 00:01:25,454 --> 00:01:26,977 [screaming] 43 00:01:27,020 --> 00:01:28,979 ♪ 44 00:01:29,022 --> 00:01:30,676 - [laughs] 45 00:01:31,938 --> 00:01:34,854 [eerie music] 46 00:01:34,898 --> 00:01:41,818 ♪ 47 00:01:42,558 --> 00:01:44,125 - [screams] 48 00:02:01,316 --> 00:02:02,926 narrator: The witch is a towering figure 49 00:02:02,969 --> 00:02:04,188 in the history of horror. 50 00:02:04,232 --> 00:02:05,755 [voices moaning] 51 00:02:05,798 --> 00:02:07,496 narrator: The archetypical evil witch 52 00:02:07,539 --> 00:02:08,975 is everything mainstream religion 53 00:02:09,019 --> 00:02:11,500 tells us a woman should not be: 54 00:02:11,543 --> 00:02:15,330 a Satan-worshipping, baby-killing predator 55 00:02:15,373 --> 00:02:17,593 who fears neither God nor man. 56 00:02:17,636 --> 00:02:19,464 - [laughs] 57 00:02:19,508 --> 00:02:21,727 narrator: Like all good monsters, 58 00:02:21,771 --> 00:02:23,686 a bad witch does whatever she likes 59 00:02:23,729 --> 00:02:25,122 whenever she likes. 60 00:02:25,166 --> 00:02:28,386 [laughter] 61 00:02:28,430 --> 00:02:30,171 That unapologetic, 62 00:02:30,214 --> 00:02:32,477 very female power 63 00:02:32,521 --> 00:02:34,523 frightens men and fascinates women. 64 00:02:34,566 --> 00:02:36,699 ♪ 65 00:02:36,742 --> 00:02:40,181 In real life, witches were non-conformist women 66 00:02:40,224 --> 00:02:43,096 persecuted by religious fanatics. 67 00:02:43,140 --> 00:02:45,838 They suffered horrible deaths for their imagined crimes. 68 00:02:45,882 --> 00:02:47,710 - [screaming] 69 00:02:49,799 --> 00:02:52,149 narrator: Perhaps society's collective guilt 70 00:02:52,193 --> 00:02:54,107 fuels the stories we tell 71 00:02:54,151 --> 00:02:56,240 about witches who come back for revenge. 72 00:02:56,284 --> 00:02:59,112 [scary music] 73 00:02:59,156 --> 00:03:00,940 - Oh, dear God! 74 00:03:00,984 --> 00:03:03,334 narrator: Sometimes the vengeful witches you don't see 75 00:03:03,378 --> 00:03:05,075 are the most terrifying, 76 00:03:05,118 --> 00:03:07,077 and there few better examples 77 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,992 than "The Blair Witch Project." 78 00:03:09,035 --> 00:03:12,343 - [Bleep]! Go! [screaming] Oh, God! 79 00:03:12,387 --> 00:03:14,519 [screams] 80 00:03:14,563 --> 00:03:16,434 - Who would've thought "The Blair Witch Project" 81 00:03:16,478 --> 00:03:18,219 would work the way that it was. 82 00:03:18,262 --> 00:03:20,873 The first time I saw that movie, I was in the hospital, 83 00:03:20,917 --> 00:03:22,223 and I was doped up. 84 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:24,355 My son brought a VHS tape of it, 85 00:03:24,399 --> 00:03:25,965 and he said, "You gotta watch this." 86 00:03:26,009 --> 00:03:27,358 Halfway through it, I said, 87 00:03:27,402 --> 00:03:28,968 "Turn it off, it's too freaky. I can't." 88 00:03:29,012 --> 00:03:31,449 - Oh, my God, what the [bleep] is that? 89 00:03:31,493 --> 00:03:33,843 What the [bleep] is that? 90 00:03:33,886 --> 00:03:35,410 - I had the same experience. 91 00:03:35,453 --> 00:03:37,499 I was like, "I have to turn the lights on." 92 00:03:37,542 --> 00:03:39,370 I was so disturbedby the end of the movie. 93 00:03:39,414 --> 00:03:40,980 - It's disturbing. That's right. 94 00:03:41,024 --> 00:03:42,068 - I was, like,I get chills thinking about 95 00:03:42,112 --> 00:03:43,331 how scared I was. - Yeah. 96 00:03:43,374 --> 00:03:45,115 - [heavy breathing] - Come on! 97 00:03:45,158 --> 00:03:46,812 I hear him downstairs! 98 00:03:48,597 --> 00:03:53,210 - In "The Blair Witch Project," the witch, 99 00:03:53,254 --> 00:03:56,518 it feels like it's everywhere. 100 00:03:56,561 --> 00:03:58,607 - Hello? 101 00:03:58,650 --> 00:04:01,218 - It's almost like the woods itself is the witch. 102 00:04:01,262 --> 00:04:04,395 There's not just this one mysterious figure 103 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:05,744 that shows up. 104 00:04:05,788 --> 00:04:08,486 The entire experience is mysterious. 105 00:04:11,881 --> 00:04:13,099 - All right, come on. Into the house. 106 00:04:13,143 --> 00:04:14,753 Come on. Come on. 107 00:04:14,797 --> 00:04:16,364 narrator: "The Blair Witch Project" 108 00:04:16,407 --> 00:04:18,714 wasn't the first found footage movie ever made, 109 00:04:18,757 --> 00:04:21,847 but it was the first to become a massive hit. 110 00:04:21,891 --> 00:04:24,328 - We have these three film students 111 00:04:24,372 --> 00:04:27,331 going off into the woods to make a documentary 112 00:04:27,375 --> 00:04:30,203 about what they believe is an urban legend 113 00:04:30,247 --> 00:04:31,640 of the Blair Witch. 114 00:04:31,683 --> 00:04:33,163 - Have you heard of the Blair Witch? 115 00:04:33,206 --> 00:04:35,339 - Oh, yeah. That's an old, old, old story. 116 00:04:35,383 --> 00:04:37,210 - So from the very beginning, 117 00:04:37,254 --> 00:04:40,692 the interviews with the townspeople are all credible. 118 00:04:40,736 --> 00:04:42,999 These don't look like actors. 119 00:04:43,042 --> 00:04:45,131 These look like just people you would meet on the street. 120 00:04:45,175 --> 00:04:47,830 And that crew is every bit as annoying... 121 00:04:47,873 --> 00:04:49,571 [laughs] 122 00:04:49,614 --> 00:04:51,573 As you might imagine a crew in real life might be. 123 00:04:51,616 --> 00:04:53,183 - Oh, he licked it. God bless him. 124 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:54,619 - Yeah, there we go. 125 00:04:54,663 --> 00:04:57,796 - They didn't cast, like, CW-type hunky leads. 126 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,103 They were, you know, the schlubs next door 127 00:05:00,146 --> 00:05:03,062 or the people in the dorm room next to you. 128 00:05:03,106 --> 00:05:04,760 - Packs are on. - We're rocking. 129 00:05:04,803 --> 00:05:06,370 - We're ready to go. - Let's rock. 130 00:05:06,414 --> 00:05:08,938 - All I knew when I was gunning for the job 131 00:05:08,981 --> 00:05:11,288 and--and--and when I first got hired was, 132 00:05:11,332 --> 00:05:14,509 it was a movie about three student filmmakers 133 00:05:14,552 --> 00:05:16,206 who went out in the woods 134 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:18,513 to investigate the legend of the Blair Witch, 135 00:05:18,556 --> 00:05:20,384 and they went missing. 136 00:05:20,428 --> 00:05:22,168 - Actors Heather Donahue, Josh Leonard, 137 00:05:22,212 --> 00:05:24,127 and Mike Williams 138 00:05:24,170 --> 00:05:26,738 were given film equipment and a loose set of instructions, 139 00:05:26,782 --> 00:05:30,002 then sent off into the woods. 140 00:05:30,046 --> 00:05:33,528 - So they wanted to keep it as naturalistic as possible. 141 00:05:33,571 --> 00:05:36,444 It is the three of us filming each other 142 00:05:36,487 --> 00:05:38,750 and recording sound of each other 143 00:05:38,794 --> 00:05:43,102 and we would have no direct interaction 144 00:05:43,146 --> 00:05:45,366 with the directors of the film while we were making it. 145 00:05:47,411 --> 00:05:51,633 They gave us a GPS, and they had programmed in waypoints 146 00:05:51,676 --> 00:05:54,070 which were hatch marks on the map, 147 00:05:54,113 --> 00:05:57,378 and we were to find our way to these different waypoints. 148 00:05:57,421 --> 00:05:59,728 So we knew we were gonna encounter things; 149 00:05:59,771 --> 00:06:01,860 we just didn't know what those things were gonna be. 150 00:06:01,904 --> 00:06:03,688 - What? 151 00:06:03,732 --> 00:06:05,777 - Some of your stuff is hanging all over the ground! 152 00:06:05,821 --> 00:06:08,345 - No way. 153 00:06:08,389 --> 00:06:11,043 - They're all over the place. - Holy [bleep]. 154 00:06:11,087 --> 00:06:14,046 - The special effects, if you wanna call it that, 155 00:06:14,090 --> 00:06:17,093 rocks and twigs, you know? [laughs] 156 00:06:17,136 --> 00:06:19,748 Things hanging in the woods are so simple 157 00:06:19,791 --> 00:06:22,272 that they feel true. 158 00:06:22,315 --> 00:06:24,056 They don't feel like something that, you know, 159 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:26,537 a set designer's gonna come up with. 160 00:06:26,581 --> 00:06:28,757 - Hello? 161 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,586 - They find clues that the Blair Witch might be real. 162 00:06:31,629 --> 00:06:33,457 - You don't think this is strange? 163 00:06:33,501 --> 00:06:35,590 - They start to be kind of stalked. 164 00:06:35,633 --> 00:06:37,548 They find themselves lost in the woods, 165 00:06:37,592 --> 00:06:39,332 and it seems to be due to a supernatural force. 166 00:06:39,376 --> 00:06:40,551 - [cries] 167 00:06:40,595 --> 00:06:41,900 - They start to act irrationally. 168 00:06:41,944 --> 00:06:44,076 - Help! 169 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,382 - They end up going in circles. 170 00:06:45,426 --> 00:06:47,036 - Turn that thing off! - [Bleep]. 171 00:06:47,079 --> 00:06:48,733 - Then they start getting picked off 172 00:06:48,777 --> 00:06:50,605 kind of one by one. 173 00:06:50,648 --> 00:06:52,694 - [heavy breathing] - Come on! 174 00:06:52,737 --> 00:06:54,826 Josh! 175 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:56,611 - In the end of course, they're all dead. 176 00:06:56,654 --> 00:06:58,526 [thumps] 177 00:06:58,569 --> 00:07:02,094 And that's how the footage supposedly came to us. 178 00:07:02,138 --> 00:07:06,359 - [heavy breathing] 179 00:07:06,403 --> 00:07:09,928 - It's that beautiful moment when she's on the ground, 180 00:07:09,972 --> 00:07:12,278 and she's weeping and shuddering... 181 00:07:12,322 --> 00:07:14,846 that actress was terrified 182 00:07:14,890 --> 00:07:17,283 and put all of that work into the camera, 183 00:07:17,327 --> 00:07:18,328 and it came right at us, 184 00:07:18,371 --> 00:07:20,417 and we wanted to help her. 185 00:07:21,897 --> 00:07:25,770 - I'm scared to close my eyes. 186 00:07:25,814 --> 00:07:27,729 I'm scared to open them. 187 00:07:27,772 --> 00:07:30,514 - I think without Heather's monologue 188 00:07:30,558 --> 00:07:32,777 and that weird framingof that shot, 189 00:07:32,821 --> 00:07:35,432 I don't think the film works. 190 00:07:35,476 --> 00:07:38,957 - I am so, so sorry. 191 00:07:39,001 --> 00:07:40,698 [whimpering] 192 00:07:40,742 --> 00:07:43,527 - I think that very iconic moment made the film, 193 00:07:43,571 --> 00:07:45,094 and added so many stakes 194 00:07:45,137 --> 00:07:47,009 and so much relatability to the film, 195 00:07:47,052 --> 00:07:50,142 and Mike and I had no idea 196 00:07:50,186 --> 00:07:51,709 that she filmed that 197 00:07:51,753 --> 00:07:53,189 until we saw it for the first time in a theater. 198 00:07:53,232 --> 00:07:55,626 - I'm gonna die out here. 199 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:58,324 ♪ 200 00:07:58,368 --> 00:08:00,849 narrator: Made for $60,000, 201 00:08:00,892 --> 00:08:03,895 "The Blair Witch Project" grossed $250 million 202 00:08:03,939 --> 00:08:05,157 at the box office. 203 00:08:05,201 --> 00:08:06,898 - [heavy breathing] 204 00:08:06,942 --> 00:08:08,900 - It was the first movie that used the internet 205 00:08:08,944 --> 00:08:10,902 to sell tickets basically, 206 00:08:10,946 --> 00:08:13,252 to use the internet to create a marketing campaign, 207 00:08:13,296 --> 00:08:14,689 and it was brilliant. 208 00:08:14,732 --> 00:08:16,429 It had never been attempted before. 209 00:08:16,473 --> 00:08:19,476 narrator: The film was marketed as a true story, 210 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,087 a deception supported by a convincing website. 211 00:08:24,612 --> 00:08:26,135 - I thought that film was real. 212 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,617 I walked out of there going, 213 00:08:29,660 --> 00:08:31,357 "We have to find-- we have to find these people. 214 00:08:31,401 --> 00:08:33,055 Where are they?" 215 00:08:33,098 --> 00:08:35,361 - I hear him. I hear him. 216 00:08:35,405 --> 00:08:37,276 I hear you. Josh! 217 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,713 - It feels like you're there. 218 00:08:38,756 --> 00:08:40,453 It feels like something that would happen. 219 00:08:40,497 --> 00:08:41,846 - [screams] 220 00:08:41,890 --> 00:08:44,414 - "Blair Witch" nailed it. 221 00:08:44,457 --> 00:08:48,070 - [screaming] [thumps] 222 00:08:50,289 --> 00:08:52,727 narrator: "Blair Witch" is part of a long tradition 223 00:08:52,770 --> 00:08:56,034 of treating witchcraft as a force of evil, 224 00:08:56,078 --> 00:08:57,775 but some movies show us 225 00:08:57,819 --> 00:08:59,908 witchcraft can be a force for good 226 00:08:59,951 --> 00:09:01,562 if it's in the right hands. 227 00:09:01,605 --> 00:09:03,781 - [screaming] 228 00:09:11,267 --> 00:09:13,878 narrator: In the movies, witches wear many faces. 229 00:09:13,922 --> 00:09:15,227 [scary music] 230 00:09:15,271 --> 00:09:17,665 Ugly and beautiful. 231 00:09:17,708 --> 00:09:20,624 Repellent and irresistible. 232 00:09:20,668 --> 00:09:22,539 ♪ 233 00:09:22,583 --> 00:09:26,587 But for most people, the all-time iconic witch 234 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:28,414 arrived in 1939, 235 00:09:28,458 --> 00:09:31,287 in the form of actress Margaret Hamilton. 236 00:09:31,330 --> 00:09:33,724 ♪ 237 00:09:33,768 --> 00:09:36,205 - If we were doing a Rorschach test and you said witch, 238 00:09:36,248 --> 00:09:38,642 the first thing I would say back to you 239 00:09:38,686 --> 00:09:40,688 is the Wicked Witch of the West in "The Wizard of Oz," 240 00:09:40,731 --> 00:09:44,082 a film that millions upon millions of people have seen. 241 00:09:44,126 --> 00:09:46,258 ♪ 242 00:09:46,302 --> 00:09:49,348 I think she is the personification of a witch. 243 00:09:49,392 --> 00:09:51,786 - I'll get you, my pretty, 244 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:54,049 and your little dog too! [cackles] 245 00:09:54,092 --> 00:09:56,660 narrator: The merciless Wicked Witch of the West 246 00:09:56,704 --> 00:09:58,749 is one of the most recognizable creations 247 00:09:58,793 --> 00:10:01,622 in cinema. 248 00:10:01,665 --> 00:10:05,103 Green face, hook nose, pointed chin-- 249 00:10:05,147 --> 00:10:08,324 she represents one of the oldest villains of folklore: 250 00:10:08,367 --> 00:10:09,760 the evil crone. 251 00:10:09,804 --> 00:10:12,371 - [laughs] - Oh! 252 00:10:12,415 --> 00:10:14,896 narrator: And like many horror archetypes, 253 00:10:14,939 --> 00:10:17,289 she's the product of cultural anxiety. 254 00:10:17,333 --> 00:10:21,380 - [laughing] 255 00:10:21,424 --> 00:10:24,296 - Aging, especially for women, is terrifying. 256 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:27,517 If our bodies are our primary form of currency, 257 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:30,825 then as we age, we lose value. 258 00:10:30,868 --> 00:10:34,306 One way that women are kind of contained in society 259 00:10:34,350 --> 00:10:36,744 is by being expected to focus on being appealing 260 00:10:36,787 --> 00:10:39,398 and so the crone is terrifying 261 00:10:39,442 --> 00:10:41,096 because she has no interest in that. 262 00:10:42,793 --> 00:10:45,491 - Aah! 263 00:10:45,535 --> 00:10:47,755 [mysterious music] 264 00:10:47,798 --> 00:10:50,235 - [barking] 265 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:52,020 narrator: But in the modern times, 266 00:10:52,063 --> 00:10:55,110 witches have become dynamic figures of female power. 267 00:10:55,153 --> 00:10:57,939 [laughter] 268 00:10:57,982 --> 00:11:00,768 Like the glamorous Witches of Eastwick. 269 00:11:00,811 --> 00:11:04,162 [laughter] 270 00:11:04,206 --> 00:11:06,121 [whimsical music] 271 00:11:06,164 --> 00:11:09,690 Repressed women liberated when they embrace their passions. 272 00:11:09,733 --> 00:11:12,562 [dramatic music] 273 00:11:12,605 --> 00:11:15,217 At first they fill the traditional witch's role 274 00:11:15,260 --> 00:11:18,089 of being Satan's concubines... 275 00:11:18,133 --> 00:11:21,963 [scary music] 276 00:11:22,006 --> 00:11:24,617 But when they pool their power, 277 00:11:24,661 --> 00:11:26,837 they put the chauvinist devil in his place. 278 00:11:26,881 --> 00:11:29,579 - [screams] 279 00:11:29,622 --> 00:11:31,189 ♪ 280 00:11:31,233 --> 00:11:33,278 [moans] 281 00:11:33,322 --> 00:11:36,281 - I put a spell on you. 282 00:11:36,325 --> 00:11:37,761 [mysterious music] 283 00:11:37,805 --> 00:11:40,198 And now you're mine. 284 00:11:40,242 --> 00:11:42,461 narrator: The three witchy sisters 285 00:11:42,505 --> 00:11:46,639 of Disney's "Hocus Pocus" had a classically evil goal: 286 00:11:46,683 --> 00:11:49,425 to drain out the souls of children. 287 00:11:49,468 --> 00:11:51,906 [witches inhale and sigh] 288 00:11:51,949 --> 00:11:55,518 They were scary and powerful, but somehow lovable. 289 00:11:55,561 --> 00:11:58,042 - I suggest we forma calming circle. 290 00:11:58,086 --> 00:11:59,565 - I am calm! 291 00:11:59,609 --> 00:12:03,004 - Oh, sister, thou art notbeing honest with thyself, 292 00:12:03,047 --> 00:12:04,745 are we? 293 00:12:04,788 --> 00:12:06,616 [scary music] 294 00:12:06,659 --> 00:12:09,314 - It is a fine line figuring out how evil 295 00:12:09,358 --> 00:12:10,838 to make the witches, 296 00:12:10,881 --> 00:12:12,970 how playful to make the surroundings, 297 00:12:13,014 --> 00:12:14,406 and they have to be a threat. 298 00:12:14,450 --> 00:12:16,104 - [snarls] [kids screaming] 299 00:12:16,147 --> 00:12:19,237 - But they can't be unpleasant. 300 00:12:19,281 --> 00:12:22,588 - [screaming] 301 00:12:22,632 --> 00:12:25,243 [rock music] 302 00:12:25,287 --> 00:12:26,810 - But the real turning point 303 00:12:26,854 --> 00:12:28,551 in the representation of witches 304 00:12:28,594 --> 00:12:30,814 came with a horror movie aimed at teenagers. 305 00:12:30,858 --> 00:12:33,817 [eerie music] 306 00:12:33,861 --> 00:12:35,688 ♪ 307 00:12:35,732 --> 00:12:37,690 The young women in "The Craft" 308 00:12:37,734 --> 00:12:40,476 embraced the Earth-worshipping magic of modern day pagans... 309 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:41,825 - [whispering] 310 00:12:41,869 --> 00:12:43,044 narrator: With a healthy dose 311 00:12:43,087 --> 00:12:44,175 of supernatural special effects. 312 00:12:44,219 --> 00:12:46,221 ♪ 313 00:12:46,264 --> 00:12:47,831 [knocking] 314 00:12:47,875 --> 00:12:49,224 - Hi, I got clean towels for everyone. 315 00:12:49,267 --> 00:12:50,747 - Aah! 316 00:12:50,791 --> 00:12:52,880 Oh, my butt. 317 00:12:52,923 --> 00:12:55,186 - What's going on in here? - Nothing, why? 318 00:12:55,230 --> 00:12:56,666 - Are you girls getting high? - No, Mom. 319 00:12:56,709 --> 00:12:58,233 - [laughs] 320 00:12:58,276 --> 00:13:00,670 - "The Craft" gave us outcasts 321 00:13:00,713 --> 00:13:03,281 who kind of came into their power, 322 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:06,937 despite or maybe even because of that outsider status, 323 00:13:06,981 --> 00:13:09,113 and it gave us this model 324 00:13:09,157 --> 00:13:12,247 of girls who could be kind of badass 325 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:14,423 and kind of goth and just different. 326 00:13:17,513 --> 00:13:20,037 - "The Craft" is about four girls, 327 00:13:20,081 --> 00:13:23,040 three who have been together for a while, 328 00:13:23,084 --> 00:13:25,651 and a new girl arrives at school, Sarah Bailey... 329 00:13:25,695 --> 00:13:27,523 - Do you guys mind if I sit with you? 330 00:13:27,566 --> 00:13:29,438 'Cause I'm supposed to find the lab group. 331 00:13:29,481 --> 00:13:32,267 - She meets this group of outcasts 332 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:35,748 and finds a place where she can maybe fit in, 333 00:13:35,792 --> 00:13:39,100 and it turns out that this group is witches. 334 00:13:39,143 --> 00:13:43,365 - Aid us in our magicalworking on this May's eve. 335 00:13:43,408 --> 00:13:45,497 [thunder cracks] 336 00:13:45,541 --> 00:13:47,848 - We see that they each have a kind of issue. 337 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,807 - Don't hit your headon the board. 338 00:13:50,851 --> 00:13:52,853 - Racism... 339 00:13:52,896 --> 00:13:54,985 The scarring of Neve Campbell's character's body. 340 00:13:55,029 --> 00:13:56,813 - [groaning] 341 00:13:56,857 --> 00:14:00,295 - Intimate partner violence, some domestic violence. 342 00:14:00,338 --> 00:14:02,384 - Stop! 343 00:14:02,427 --> 00:14:04,821 - We see that by working together, 344 00:14:04,865 --> 00:14:06,692 they can kind of create this power where 345 00:14:06,736 --> 00:14:09,826 they're more than the sum of their parts. 346 00:14:09,870 --> 00:14:12,002 narrator: Like modern Wiccans and Pagans, 347 00:14:12,046 --> 00:14:14,744 these girls don't worship Satan. 348 00:14:14,787 --> 00:14:17,007 They draw their power from nature. 349 00:14:17,051 --> 00:14:20,663 all chanting: Fire, water, air. 350 00:14:22,883 --> 00:14:25,581 - I think witch's power is so important 351 00:14:25,624 --> 00:14:28,410 is because it's rooted in strength. 352 00:14:28,453 --> 00:14:30,151 Witchcraft and Paganism, 353 00:14:30,194 --> 00:14:31,979 it's rooted in a connection to the Earth. 354 00:14:32,022 --> 00:14:33,241 - As above... 355 00:14:33,284 --> 00:14:34,895 - It is respect for the Earth. 356 00:14:34,938 --> 00:14:36,722 - So below. 357 00:14:36,766 --> 00:14:41,423 - But the idea was to take the religion, Wicca, seriously. 358 00:14:41,466 --> 00:14:43,207 If you get all of the little details right 359 00:14:43,251 --> 00:14:44,730 about this religion, 360 00:14:44,774 --> 00:14:46,341 you can take a few liberties 361 00:14:46,384 --> 00:14:49,300 and make something supernatural happen, 362 00:14:49,344 --> 00:14:51,346 and it's more believable. 363 00:14:51,389 --> 00:14:54,044 - Ours is the magic, ours is the power. 364 00:14:54,088 --> 00:14:56,960 [rock music] 365 00:14:57,004 --> 00:15:00,181 - They start practicing witchcraft more intensely 366 00:15:00,224 --> 00:15:03,924 and getting magical results, 367 00:15:03,967 --> 00:15:06,361 and they're intoxicated by the results, 368 00:15:06,404 --> 00:15:08,145 and then they want more. [both screaming] 369 00:15:08,189 --> 00:15:10,713 - It's analogy for female sexuality. 370 00:15:10,756 --> 00:15:13,803 If you notice, as their powers get stronger, 371 00:15:13,846 --> 00:15:16,371 our skirts get shorter. 372 00:15:16,414 --> 00:15:18,242 Society's always been scared of women 373 00:15:18,286 --> 00:15:19,983 and their sexuality. 374 00:15:20,027 --> 00:15:21,463 And teenagers, that's their burgeoning sexuality 375 00:15:21,506 --> 00:15:22,899 when it hits, 376 00:15:22,943 --> 00:15:24,988 so the witchcraft kind of an analogy for that fear 377 00:15:25,032 --> 00:15:26,250 that we have 378 00:15:26,294 --> 00:15:28,296 of women coming into their power. 379 00:15:28,339 --> 00:15:31,168 [scary music] 380 00:15:31,212 --> 00:15:33,475 narrator: At first, the girls' new power is liberating... 381 00:15:33,518 --> 00:15:35,259 - [laughs] 382 00:15:35,303 --> 00:15:37,696 narrator: But they soon begin to abuse their gifts... 383 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:39,220 - [gasps] 384 00:15:39,263 --> 00:15:41,048 narrator: First with small acts of revenge... 385 00:15:41,091 --> 00:15:43,398 - Just keeps falling out. 386 00:15:43,441 --> 00:15:45,530 - [screaming] 387 00:15:45,574 --> 00:15:47,228 narrator: And then with murder. 388 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,841 [thumps] - [screams] 389 00:15:51,884 --> 00:15:55,366 - Nancy's character is the addict. 390 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:59,327 She's the one who can't restrain her use of the power. 391 00:15:59,370 --> 00:16:02,112 When she gets a good feeling she needs more of it. 392 00:16:02,156 --> 00:16:03,722 ♪ 393 00:16:03,766 --> 00:16:05,507 narrator: "The Craft" uses witchcraft 394 00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:06,899 as a metaphor for drug use. 395 00:16:06,943 --> 00:16:09,380 - [screams] 396 00:16:09,424 --> 00:16:11,034 narrator: But it also uses 397 00:16:11,078 --> 00:16:13,341 the tight knit circle of a witch's coven 398 00:16:13,384 --> 00:16:15,560 to explore the world of teenage girls... 399 00:16:15,604 --> 00:16:17,171 ♪ 400 00:16:17,214 --> 00:16:18,999 A time when your best friends 401 00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:21,610 can become your worst enemies overnight. 402 00:16:22,828 --> 00:16:24,004 - There you are. 403 00:16:24,047 --> 00:16:26,310 We've looking everywhere for you. 404 00:16:26,354 --> 00:16:28,965 - As teenage girls, they're hitting the age 405 00:16:29,009 --> 00:16:30,532 where you start to get pitted against each other. 406 00:16:30,575 --> 00:16:32,621 Instead of having sisterhood, 407 00:16:32,664 --> 00:16:35,276 we started to go, "There can only be one!" 408 00:16:35,319 --> 00:16:37,278 And that's insane. 409 00:16:37,321 --> 00:16:39,236 - [laughs] 410 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,847 ♪ 411 00:16:41,891 --> 00:16:43,936 - When you're a teenager, your brain just isn't right. 412 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:45,895 You're chemically not balanced, 413 00:16:45,938 --> 00:16:48,463 and then you add in the social constructs 414 00:16:48,506 --> 00:16:50,769 and the way that they're trying to navigate that 415 00:16:50,813 --> 00:16:53,250 and interact with one another. 416 00:16:53,294 --> 00:16:56,210 There is something, like, an element of violence to it, 417 00:16:56,253 --> 00:16:59,082 even if it's never physical, it's, like, emotional violence 418 00:16:59,126 --> 00:17:00,823 that you deal with as a teenage girl. 419 00:17:00,866 --> 00:17:03,173 [laughter] 420 00:17:03,217 --> 00:17:05,654 I think the horror genre is actually a great genre 421 00:17:05,697 --> 00:17:07,917 to explore those concepts 422 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,398 because you can make physical 423 00:17:10,441 --> 00:17:12,487 what a lot of girls are feeling internally 424 00:17:12,530 --> 00:17:13,531 all the time. 425 00:17:13,575 --> 00:17:15,446 - [screams] Stop it! 426 00:17:15,490 --> 00:17:19,102 [heavy breathing] 427 00:17:19,146 --> 00:17:21,409 narrator: "The Craft" was a frothy blend 428 00:17:21,452 --> 00:17:22,801 of adolescent angst 429 00:17:22,845 --> 00:17:26,153 and modern witchcraft. 430 00:17:26,196 --> 00:17:30,113 "Hereditary" mixes similar ingredients 431 00:17:30,157 --> 00:17:32,637 into a much darker brew. - [screams] 432 00:17:38,513 --> 00:17:40,602 narrator: In the movies, 433 00:17:40,645 --> 00:17:42,560 the wicked witches of olden times 434 00:17:42,604 --> 00:17:44,649 were easy to spot. 435 00:17:44,693 --> 00:17:46,434 [chatter] 436 00:17:46,477 --> 00:17:49,915 But what do modern day wicked witches look like? 437 00:17:49,959 --> 00:17:51,134 [horrific musical sting] 438 00:17:51,178 --> 00:17:53,528 Perhaps like the shadowy coven 439 00:17:53,571 --> 00:17:55,878 in Ari Aster's harrowing film, "Hereditary." 440 00:17:58,141 --> 00:18:00,056 Though they are never clearly seen 441 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:02,667 until the film's explosive conclusion... 442 00:18:02,711 --> 00:18:05,017 [buzzing] - [heavy breathing] 443 00:18:05,061 --> 00:18:07,237 [screams] 444 00:18:07,281 --> 00:18:09,805 - Mommy, please, I'm begging you. 445 00:18:09,848 --> 00:18:11,894 I'm begging you to stop! 446 00:18:11,937 --> 00:18:13,635 narrator: Their presence is always felt. 447 00:18:13,678 --> 00:18:15,202 - [grunts] 448 00:18:16,942 --> 00:18:19,119 - One of the first images that came to me 449 00:18:19,162 --> 00:18:21,164 when I was developing "Hereditary," 450 00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:23,601 was that of the dollhouse 451 00:18:23,645 --> 00:18:25,821 and this artist who was, you know, 452 00:18:25,864 --> 00:18:28,693 making these very true to life replicas 453 00:18:28,737 --> 00:18:31,305 of, like, the spaces in her life. 454 00:18:31,348 --> 00:18:34,656 That just felt like an appropriate metaphor 455 00:18:34,699 --> 00:18:38,442 for this film about a family that ultimately has no agency. 456 00:18:38,486 --> 00:18:40,662 Ultimately, they are like dolls in a dollhouse. 457 00:18:40,705 --> 00:18:43,143 narrator: The family is grappling with the death 458 00:18:43,186 --> 00:18:45,580 of its icy matriarch. 459 00:18:45,623 --> 00:18:48,800 They don't realize grandma was the leader of a witch's coven 460 00:18:48,844 --> 00:18:50,846 that worships a demon named Paimon. 461 00:18:52,456 --> 00:18:55,242 And she won't let a small thing like dying 462 00:18:55,285 --> 00:18:57,940 get in the way of her plans for her granddaughter, 463 00:18:57,983 --> 00:18:59,724 a strange 13-year-old named Charlie. 464 00:18:59,768 --> 00:19:01,117 - [clicks tongue] 465 00:19:04,381 --> 00:19:06,688 - I really wanted to be in a horror movie, 466 00:19:06,731 --> 00:19:08,342 specifically as a character that wasn't, like, 467 00:19:08,385 --> 00:19:10,213 the one running around scared, 468 00:19:10,257 --> 00:19:13,521 so I could kind of figure out what that person is thinking 469 00:19:13,564 --> 00:19:15,262 and, like, why they're doing the things they do 470 00:19:15,305 --> 00:19:16,567 and how their brain works. 471 00:19:18,221 --> 00:19:19,788 I don't think like that, 472 00:19:19,831 --> 00:19:21,877 I wouldn't normally, like, cut bird heads off... 473 00:19:24,227 --> 00:19:27,230 narrator: Charlie's peculiar behavior 474 00:19:27,274 --> 00:19:28,710 is explained by the fact 475 00:19:28,753 --> 00:19:32,583 that she and the demon share a body 476 00:19:32,627 --> 00:19:37,240 thanks to grandma's black magic. 477 00:19:37,284 --> 00:19:39,808 At first, "Hereditary" seems to be about 478 00:19:39,851 --> 00:19:42,985 a woman who doesn't realize her child is possessed. 479 00:19:43,028 --> 00:19:45,335 - You're going. - Why? 480 00:19:45,379 --> 00:19:46,771 - Because it'll be fun. 481 00:19:46,815 --> 00:19:48,556 Because you'll get to hang out with other kids. 482 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:50,514 narrator: But then Charlie and her brother Peter 483 00:19:50,558 --> 00:19:52,037 go to a party, 484 00:19:52,081 --> 00:19:53,822 she has an allergic reaction... 485 00:19:53,865 --> 00:19:56,041 - I think my throat's getting bigger. 486 00:19:56,085 --> 00:19:57,956 narrator: He tries to rush her to a hospital 487 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,394 and things take a tragic turn. 488 00:20:00,437 --> 00:20:03,048 [tires screech] 489 00:20:03,092 --> 00:20:04,963 - Ooh! [coughs] 490 00:20:05,007 --> 00:20:06,574 [gasping] 491 00:20:06,617 --> 00:20:09,620 I was excited to get decapitated. 492 00:20:09,664 --> 00:20:12,623 I've always wanted to die in a film or a show 493 00:20:12,667 --> 00:20:14,930 in some, like, very overdramatic way 494 00:20:14,973 --> 00:20:17,019 and getting decapitated, 495 00:20:17,062 --> 00:20:19,195 it's, like, one of the best ways to go. 496 00:20:19,239 --> 00:20:21,676 It's so dramatic. It's so, like, extreme. 497 00:20:21,719 --> 00:20:24,679 [tires screeching] 498 00:20:28,291 --> 00:20:29,858 - The head comes off, 499 00:20:29,901 --> 00:20:32,121 but it's handled in a very kind of tasteful way, 500 00:20:32,164 --> 00:20:33,731 and part of the fun of that 501 00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:36,778 was knowing that we were gonna stay with Peter 502 00:20:36,821 --> 00:20:38,345 for a very long time, 503 00:20:38,388 --> 00:20:40,782 go home with him, go to bed with him, 504 00:20:40,825 --> 00:20:44,176 and then drop the head eight minutes later. 505 00:20:44,220 --> 00:20:47,136 - [crying] 506 00:20:53,098 --> 00:20:55,884 - That's where we reveal what the movie actually is. 507 00:20:57,581 --> 00:20:59,235 narrator: Charlie's death triggers 508 00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:02,456 the already dysfunctional family's collapse. 509 00:21:02,499 --> 00:21:04,153 - She's gone forever! 510 00:21:05,763 --> 00:21:08,331 And what a waste. 511 00:21:08,375 --> 00:21:11,073 If it could've maybe brought us together or something. 512 00:21:11,116 --> 00:21:13,249 If you could've just said, "I'm sorry," 513 00:21:13,293 --> 00:21:15,338 or faced up to what happened, 514 00:21:15,382 --> 00:21:18,080 maybe then we could do something with this, 515 00:21:18,123 --> 00:21:20,343 but you can't take responsibility for anything! 516 00:21:20,387 --> 00:21:23,128 So now I can't accept. 517 00:21:23,172 --> 00:21:25,957 - There were just some horribly 518 00:21:26,001 --> 00:21:30,048 emotionally draining moments where you-- 519 00:21:30,092 --> 00:21:33,182 Toni Collette is so good in that movie, and you just-- 520 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,663 all you wanna do is find a way 521 00:21:35,706 --> 00:21:37,360 for her to release her of her pain. 522 00:21:37,404 --> 00:21:40,102 - [cries] 523 00:21:40,145 --> 00:21:41,669 - [crying] 524 00:21:41,712 --> 00:21:43,758 narrator: But pain is precisely the emotion 525 00:21:43,801 --> 00:21:46,064 the witches use to manipulate their victims. 526 00:21:46,108 --> 00:21:47,849 - [gasps] 527 00:21:47,892 --> 00:21:51,287 - The movie's about a family that in many ways 528 00:21:51,331 --> 00:21:52,941 is kind of following each other into madness, 529 00:21:52,984 --> 00:21:54,682 especially Toni Collette's character 530 00:21:54,725 --> 00:21:56,379 and Alex Wolff's character. 531 00:21:56,423 --> 00:21:58,686 They're really kind of pushing each other there. 532 00:21:58,729 --> 00:22:00,644 - Why did you try to kill me? - I love you. 533 00:22:00,688 --> 00:22:02,254 I didn't! I was trying to save you! 534 00:22:02,298 --> 00:22:06,389 - Why did you try to kill me? [both crying] 535 00:22:06,433 --> 00:22:07,825 - You are sick. 536 00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:09,392 narrator: Once the coven 537 00:22:09,436 --> 00:22:11,176 has pushed the family over the edge, 538 00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:13,614 the film explodes into a supernatural orgy 539 00:22:13,657 --> 00:22:15,050 of violent death. 540 00:22:15,093 --> 00:22:18,183 - [screaming] 541 00:22:18,227 --> 00:22:20,229 - By the time you get to the end 542 00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:21,883 of the movie, 543 00:22:21,926 --> 00:22:23,972 and Toni Collette's, like, 544 00:22:24,015 --> 00:22:27,323 levitating and sawing her own head off 545 00:22:27,367 --> 00:22:29,934 with that horrifying look on her face, 546 00:22:29,978 --> 00:22:32,589 [terrifying music] 547 00:22:32,633 --> 00:22:34,199 I didn't know what to do. 548 00:22:34,243 --> 00:22:36,114 Like, I didn't even know where the movie was going. 549 00:22:36,158 --> 00:22:38,421 - [screams] 550 00:22:38,465 --> 00:22:40,205 [thump] 551 00:22:40,249 --> 00:22:42,382 - I love when movies, you know, 552 00:22:42,425 --> 00:22:45,733 kind of embrace a more operatic sensibility. 553 00:22:45,776 --> 00:22:48,692 Why not just go off the rails and just go there, you know? 554 00:22:48,736 --> 00:22:51,434 You know that you're gonna be alienating 555 00:22:51,478 --> 00:22:54,045 a large section of the audience, 556 00:22:54,089 --> 00:22:55,525 and you know that people are kinda gonna get off the ride 557 00:22:55,569 --> 00:22:58,485 at that point, but for me... 558 00:22:58,528 --> 00:23:00,400 - Oh, my God. - It's okay, it's okay. 559 00:23:00,443 --> 00:23:01,705 - I just didn't care. 560 00:23:01,749 --> 00:23:03,403 - It's okay, it's okay. 561 00:23:03,446 --> 00:23:04,969 narrator: Like the coven in "Hereditary," 562 00:23:05,013 --> 00:23:08,538 demonic women in "The Witch" are rarely seen. 563 00:23:08,582 --> 00:23:09,974 - [grunts] - [screaming] 564 00:23:10,018 --> 00:23:11,149 narrator: But they know exactly 565 00:23:11,193 --> 00:23:12,803 how to drag a family to hell. 566 00:23:12,847 --> 00:23:14,675 - [bleating] [both grunting] 567 00:23:21,638 --> 00:23:24,032 narrator: In colonial America, 568 00:23:24,075 --> 00:23:25,903 the face of a witch often look like this... 569 00:23:25,947 --> 00:23:27,992 [tense music] 570 00:23:28,036 --> 00:23:30,081 The face of Thomasin, 571 00:23:30,125 --> 00:23:33,998 the teenage protagonist of Robert Eggers' "The Witch." 572 00:23:34,042 --> 00:23:36,958 - Tell us why you went to the wood. 573 00:23:37,001 --> 00:23:39,003 - I promise. - I care not. 574 00:23:39,047 --> 00:23:42,093 ♪ 575 00:23:42,137 --> 00:23:45,967 - "The Witch" is the scariest movie 576 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:49,492 in its residual effect on me, maybe ever. 577 00:23:49,536 --> 00:23:51,146 - [gasps] 578 00:23:51,189 --> 00:23:53,888 - I felt contaminated 579 00:23:53,931 --> 00:23:57,021 by the evil of that movie. [laughs] 580 00:23:57,065 --> 00:23:59,937 ♪ 581 00:23:59,981 --> 00:24:02,287 narrator: Set in 1620, 582 00:24:02,331 --> 00:24:04,333 "The Witch" tells the tale 583 00:24:04,376 --> 00:24:07,205 of a family banished from the Plymouth colony 584 00:24:07,249 --> 00:24:10,426 because the patriarch is too unbendingly religious 585 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:13,429 even for his fellow Calvinists. 586 00:24:13,473 --> 00:24:17,433 The family sets up a homestead in the wilds of New England, 587 00:24:17,477 --> 00:24:20,218 and are targeted by the baby-killing witches 588 00:24:20,262 --> 00:24:21,655 that live in the woods. 589 00:24:21,698 --> 00:24:24,832 ♪ 590 00:24:24,875 --> 00:24:27,269 - Mmm, boo! [laughs] 591 00:24:27,312 --> 00:24:28,792 [baby laughing] There you are. 592 00:24:28,836 --> 00:24:32,056 There you are. [chuckles] 593 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,276 Mmm, boo! 594 00:24:35,582 --> 00:24:36,887 [eerie music] 595 00:24:36,931 --> 00:24:38,889 Sam? 596 00:24:38,933 --> 00:24:43,024 ♪ 597 00:24:43,067 --> 00:24:45,374 - When the baby disappears... 598 00:24:45,417 --> 00:24:48,377 you can imagine being completely out there 599 00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:51,772 without any kind of real sort of civilization around you, 600 00:24:51,815 --> 00:24:53,469 to sort help. 601 00:24:53,513 --> 00:24:55,645 It's just a few of you and the family in the woods. 602 00:24:55,689 --> 00:24:58,648 ♪ 603 00:24:58,692 --> 00:25:00,563 - [barks] 604 00:25:00,607 --> 00:25:03,000 narrator: "The Witch" was shot entirely in natural light. 605 00:25:03,044 --> 00:25:04,567 both: Black Phillip, Black Phillip! 606 00:25:04,611 --> 00:25:06,177 narrator: With the actors wearing costumes 607 00:25:06,221 --> 00:25:08,440 made from period appropriate fabrics. 608 00:25:08,484 --> 00:25:09,920 Everything feels real. 609 00:25:09,964 --> 00:25:11,661 - [sighs] 610 00:25:11,705 --> 00:25:14,838 - Black Phillip is the name I give, he goes along with-- 611 00:25:14,882 --> 00:25:17,406 - I cannot abide your songs. - Please you, Mercy. 612 00:25:17,449 --> 00:25:19,364 narrator: Even the film's dialogue is authentic, 613 00:25:19,408 --> 00:25:21,105 much it taken 614 00:25:21,149 --> 00:25:23,412 from actual transcripts of the Salem Witch Trials. 615 00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:25,283 - Take your leave. 616 00:25:25,327 --> 00:25:26,633 ♪ 617 00:25:26,676 --> 00:25:28,112 - Free us from the shaman's omen, 618 00:25:28,156 --> 00:25:31,072 would you do unto us, Father. Amen. 619 00:25:31,115 --> 00:25:33,596 narrator: Thomasin lives in a world of religious dread 620 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,163 where Satan is real. 621 00:25:35,206 --> 00:25:36,686 - [grunts] - [screams] 622 00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:38,949 narrator: Witches are his unholy consults, 623 00:25:38,993 --> 00:25:41,865 and temptation and corruption 624 00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:44,433 lurk around every corner. 625 00:25:44,476 --> 00:25:47,436 [scary music] 626 00:25:47,479 --> 00:25:54,356 ♪ 627 00:25:56,445 --> 00:25:58,490 - [heavy breathing] Come on. 628 00:25:58,534 --> 00:25:59,970 narrator: After her young brother 629 00:26:00,014 --> 00:26:02,016 is seduced and murdered, 630 00:26:02,059 --> 00:26:04,975 the family begins to suspect Thomasin is responsible. 631 00:26:05,019 --> 00:26:06,498 - [screams] 632 00:26:06,542 --> 00:26:07,978 narrator: Her emergent womanhood 633 00:26:08,022 --> 00:26:10,154 is as unsettling to them as Black Phillip, 634 00:26:10,198 --> 00:26:11,895 the Satanic goat. 635 00:26:11,939 --> 00:26:13,636 - Baa, baa, baa. 636 00:26:16,596 --> 00:26:18,989 - Horror loves to exaggerate. 637 00:26:20,861 --> 00:26:24,125 So the idea of the girl going through puberty 638 00:26:24,168 --> 00:26:26,257 as a source of horror... 639 00:26:26,301 --> 00:26:27,432 - [heavy breathing] 640 00:26:27,476 --> 00:26:30,653 - And as a source of female power 641 00:26:30,697 --> 00:26:33,613 is something that shows up in a lot of horror films. 642 00:26:33,656 --> 00:26:35,527 - [cries]It is you! 643 00:26:35,571 --> 00:26:37,660 - [crying] I am your daughter. 644 00:26:37,704 --> 00:26:40,968 - The devil is in theeand has had thee. 645 00:26:41,011 --> 00:26:45,712 - Here's this good person who is being consumed by an evil 646 00:26:45,755 --> 00:26:47,888 that she cannot escape. - [screaming] 647 00:26:47,931 --> 00:26:50,151 - She only wants to be good and only wants to do what is right. 648 00:26:50,194 --> 00:26:52,806 - [heavy breathing] 649 00:26:52,849 --> 00:26:56,723 - And the idea of becoming usurped by evil... 650 00:26:56,766 --> 00:26:59,116 - I am no witch. 651 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,424 - Is one of the scariest ideas that you can think of 652 00:27:02,467 --> 00:27:04,382 from a theological or religious point of view. 653 00:27:04,426 --> 00:27:07,472 - Please, Father.No, it's not safe! 654 00:27:07,516 --> 00:27:10,388 - But at the same time the movie is very critical 655 00:27:10,432 --> 00:27:13,304 in saying, "This is what religion 656 00:27:13,348 --> 00:27:15,132 "and religious hysteria 657 00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:18,919 "and religious repression also inevitably does 658 00:27:18,962 --> 00:27:21,486 to young agile minds." 659 00:27:21,530 --> 00:27:24,402 - Aah![grunts] 660 00:27:24,446 --> 00:27:26,056 narrator: Betrayed by her family, 661 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,232 Thomasin loses everything 662 00:27:28,276 --> 00:27:30,800 and must make a terrible choice. 663 00:27:30,844 --> 00:27:32,715 ♪ 664 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,979 - [whispering] Wouldst thou like to live deliciously? 665 00:27:36,023 --> 00:27:37,807 - Yes. 666 00:27:37,851 --> 00:27:41,376 ♪ 667 00:27:41,419 --> 00:27:43,204 [women chanting] 668 00:27:43,247 --> 00:27:47,121 - I don't think joining a Satan worshipping group of witches 669 00:27:47,164 --> 00:27:49,819 is seen as necessarily a good thing... 670 00:27:49,863 --> 00:27:51,299 [women chanting] 671 00:27:51,342 --> 00:27:53,518 But the fact that it's seen as preferable 672 00:27:53,562 --> 00:27:55,564 to the patriarchal society that it was in 673 00:27:55,607 --> 00:27:57,653 is a much more powerful damnation, I think, 674 00:27:57,697 --> 00:27:59,263 about society. 675 00:28:02,702 --> 00:28:06,575 - She ultimately gets to have her power, 676 00:28:06,618 --> 00:28:09,752 um, and that ending is just a great revelatory ending. 677 00:28:12,581 --> 00:28:15,192 narrator: Some women reluctantly become witches. 678 00:28:15,236 --> 00:28:16,759 [eerie chill blows] 679 00:28:16,803 --> 00:28:19,675 Others happily walk the path. 680 00:28:19,719 --> 00:28:22,809 [laughter] 681 00:28:28,162 --> 00:28:30,077 [chatter] 682 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,079 narrator: The nice ladies of the Royal Society 683 00:28:32,122 --> 00:28:34,472 for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children 684 00:28:34,516 --> 00:28:36,692 are not what they appear to be. 685 00:28:36,736 --> 00:28:38,476 - [grunts] 686 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,349 narrator: They are, in fact, child-hating monsters 687 00:28:41,392 --> 00:28:44,744 led by the diabolical grand high witch... 688 00:28:44,787 --> 00:28:48,008 [dastardly music] 689 00:28:48,051 --> 00:28:52,142 A misshapen crone without a drop of decency. 690 00:28:52,186 --> 00:28:57,539 - The witch who dares to say I'm wrong 691 00:28:57,582 --> 00:28:59,846 will not be with us 692 00:28:59,889 --> 00:29:02,065 very long! 693 00:29:02,109 --> 00:29:03,763 - Aah! 694 00:29:03,806 --> 00:29:05,765 narrator: Directed by Nicolas Roeg, 695 00:29:05,808 --> 00:29:08,071 produced by Jim Henson, 696 00:29:08,115 --> 00:29:10,726 and based on the book by Roald Dahl, 697 00:29:10,770 --> 00:29:14,121 "The Witches" takes a very old school view of the dark arts. 698 00:29:14,164 --> 00:29:16,079 [eerie music] 699 00:29:16,123 --> 00:29:18,821 - Roald Dahl and Nick Roeg pulled no punches. 700 00:29:18,865 --> 00:29:21,955 Witches are evil; they report to the devil... 701 00:29:21,998 --> 00:29:23,478 [eerie musical sting] 702 00:29:23,521 --> 00:29:25,349 They live to kill children. 703 00:29:25,393 --> 00:29:28,918 - Real witches have no toes. 704 00:29:28,962 --> 00:29:31,051 - The opening of "Witches" 705 00:29:31,094 --> 00:29:34,663 is this beautiful little six-year-old girl... 706 00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:38,145 [dramatic music] 707 00:29:38,188 --> 00:29:39,842 Cursed into a painting. 708 00:29:39,886 --> 00:29:42,671 - Gazing at us. 709 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:44,194 - Until she dies of old age, 710 00:29:44,238 --> 00:29:45,935 locked and trapped in the painting. 711 00:29:45,979 --> 00:29:48,546 - One morning, she was gone. 712 00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:50,287 - It's really terrifying. 713 00:29:50,331 --> 00:29:53,334 - [gurgles] 714 00:29:53,377 --> 00:29:55,379 narrator: Despite its dark undercurrent, 715 00:29:55,423 --> 00:29:57,164 "The Witches" is one of those rare films 716 00:29:57,207 --> 00:29:59,514 that actually is fun for the whole family. 717 00:29:59,557 --> 00:30:02,473 - [snarling] [couple screaming] 718 00:30:02,517 --> 00:30:03,735 narrator: But in 1990, 719 00:30:03,779 --> 00:30:05,476 some were not amused. 720 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,565 - Get the mice. 721 00:30:07,609 --> 00:30:09,480 - The Witches of America or the Wiccans 722 00:30:09,524 --> 00:30:11,874 were protesting the movie 723 00:30:11,918 --> 00:30:14,181 for such a negative portrayal of witches, 724 00:30:14,224 --> 00:30:15,443 and they're absolutely right. 725 00:30:15,486 --> 00:30:17,097 [laughter] 726 00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:18,881 Yeah, somebody goes and says, "Witches, uh, 727 00:30:18,925 --> 00:30:20,535 those witches were really negatively portrayed." 728 00:30:20,578 --> 00:30:22,232 Good, then, let's have a conversation 729 00:30:22,276 --> 00:30:24,017 because that's the way a lot of people used to feel. 730 00:30:24,060 --> 00:30:25,366 [laughs] 731 00:30:25,409 --> 00:30:26,976 - Bye. 732 00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:29,196 [laughs] 733 00:30:29,239 --> 00:30:30,371 - [laughs] 734 00:30:30,414 --> 00:30:32,068 - Why are you laughing? 735 00:30:32,112 --> 00:30:35,071 I'm not laughing. 736 00:30:35,115 --> 00:30:38,335 Is something suddenly funny? 737 00:30:38,379 --> 00:30:40,860 narrator: When it comes to unrepentantly evil witches, 738 00:30:40,903 --> 00:30:43,340 Rob Zombie's "The Lords of Salem" 739 00:30:43,384 --> 00:30:44,864 is hard to top. 740 00:30:44,907 --> 00:30:47,431 - Oh, that felt good. 741 00:30:47,475 --> 00:30:49,390 narrator: These women come armed 742 00:30:49,433 --> 00:30:52,262 with a subversive message about female power. 743 00:30:52,306 --> 00:30:55,613 - "Lords of Salem," I feel, is Rob Zombie's best film. 744 00:30:55,657 --> 00:30:58,442 It's a really good story. It's a nightmarish story. 745 00:30:58,486 --> 00:31:01,445 narrator: Sheri Moon Zombie plays Heidi Hawthorne, 746 00:31:01,489 --> 00:31:04,100 a radio DJ in Salem, Massachusetts. 747 00:31:04,144 --> 00:31:06,276 - I have no info on where this came from. 748 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,105 All I know is the group is called The Lords. 749 00:31:09,149 --> 00:31:12,152 narrator: She's tricked into playing a mysterious record 750 00:31:12,195 --> 00:31:14,589 that awakens the latent witchiness 751 00:31:14,632 --> 00:31:16,808 in the women of Salem. 752 00:31:16,852 --> 00:31:19,028 Heidi's descent into darkness 753 00:31:19,072 --> 00:31:20,551 is sped along by the coven 754 00:31:20,595 --> 00:31:22,771 that lives in her apartment building. 755 00:31:22,814 --> 00:31:26,079 - I came up with this coven of witches in Salem... 756 00:31:26,122 --> 00:31:28,081 [crowd screaming] 757 00:31:28,124 --> 00:31:30,431 - That were destroyed 758 00:31:30,474 --> 00:31:33,260 by Jonathan Hawthorne, 759 00:31:33,303 --> 00:31:34,914 and then we jump to modern day 760 00:31:34,957 --> 00:31:37,394 where this modern day coven of witches 761 00:31:37,438 --> 00:31:38,961 choose Heidi Hawthorne, 762 00:31:39,005 --> 00:31:40,354 who's a descendent of Jonathan Hawthorne 763 00:31:40,397 --> 00:31:42,791 to be the--the vessel by which, you know, 764 00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:45,402 the Antichrist comes back, and the witches return. 765 00:31:45,446 --> 00:31:47,230 - [screaming] 766 00:31:47,274 --> 00:31:49,189 narrator: Unlike most witch movies, 767 00:31:49,232 --> 00:31:51,974 "The Lords of Salem" is actually on the side 768 00:31:52,018 --> 00:31:55,151 of the murderous witches and their satanic agenda of evil. 769 00:31:55,195 --> 00:31:57,066 [laughter] 770 00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:59,199 - The witches are the heroes in this one again, as usual. 771 00:31:59,242 --> 00:32:00,983 [laughs] That's why I created 772 00:32:01,027 --> 00:32:03,246 the character of the--Torsten played 773 00:32:03,290 --> 00:32:04,726 of the German black metal guy 774 00:32:04,769 --> 00:32:06,162 ranting against Christianity 775 00:32:06,206 --> 00:32:07,816 just to get a little more in there. 776 00:32:07,859 --> 00:32:10,558 [laughs] Just to complain about it all. 777 00:32:10,601 --> 00:32:13,865 - Our philosophyis to expose the lies 778 00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:16,172 of the Christian whoresand Jesus, 779 00:32:16,216 --> 00:32:17,826 the true bringer of death. 780 00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:20,176 - [laughs] 781 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:23,614 narrator: The men in the film are secondary characters, 782 00:32:23,658 --> 00:32:25,268 oblivious to the deadly 783 00:32:25,312 --> 00:32:27,836 and very female energy building up in Salem. 784 00:32:27,879 --> 00:32:30,752 [scary music] 785 00:32:30,795 --> 00:32:34,321 - I wanted the whole movie to feel like it was a dream. 786 00:32:34,364 --> 00:32:37,106 Is this really happening, does she think this is happening, 787 00:32:37,150 --> 00:32:38,934 is this just a drug dream, or is she crazy? 788 00:32:38,978 --> 00:32:40,327 - [snarls] - [screaming] 789 00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:41,676 [horrific musical sting] 790 00:32:41,719 --> 00:32:43,721 - [heavy breathing] 791 00:32:43,765 --> 00:32:46,202 ♪ 792 00:32:46,246 --> 00:32:48,509 narrator: The film culminates with a hellish ceremony 793 00:32:48,552 --> 00:32:50,902 as the witches summon the return of the Antichrist 794 00:32:50,946 --> 00:32:52,339 through Heidi. 795 00:32:52,382 --> 00:32:53,775 ♪ 796 00:32:53,818 --> 00:32:55,559 - I like the ending a lot, 797 00:32:55,603 --> 00:32:57,039 because I've always been a big fan of Ken Russell movies, 798 00:32:57,083 --> 00:32:58,519 and I like crazy [bleep]. 799 00:32:58,562 --> 00:33:00,477 - [speaking foreign language] - [screams] 800 00:33:00,521 --> 00:33:03,045 - 'Cause I thought, like, well, if--if you have someone 801 00:33:03,089 --> 00:33:06,005 who their entire soul is being stripped away 802 00:33:06,048 --> 00:33:07,963 because they're being dragged to hell by witches 803 00:33:08,007 --> 00:33:09,791 and forced to give birth to Satan... 804 00:33:09,834 --> 00:33:11,227 [witches chanting] 805 00:33:11,271 --> 00:33:13,447 - What is that gonna look like? [laughs] 806 00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:16,276 - In the burning rivers of the dead. 807 00:33:18,278 --> 00:33:21,716 - Ultimately, we see this as a kind of act of revenge 808 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,545 against this patriarchal culture 809 00:33:24,588 --> 00:33:27,069 that found women's power threatening. 810 00:33:27,113 --> 00:33:28,810 [eerie music] 811 00:33:28,853 --> 00:33:30,203 And so it was this 812 00:33:30,246 --> 00:33:32,640 generations-long act of revenge 813 00:33:32,683 --> 00:33:35,034 and sort of asserting this power 814 00:33:35,077 --> 00:33:37,514 as something that can't be contained so easily. 815 00:33:37,558 --> 00:33:39,734 ♪ 816 00:33:39,777 --> 00:33:42,128 - [laughs] 817 00:33:42,171 --> 00:33:44,826 narrator: If Rob Zombie's "The Lords of Salem" 818 00:33:44,869 --> 00:33:46,306 is a black metal dirge... 819 00:33:46,349 --> 00:33:49,309 - [screaming] 820 00:33:49,352 --> 00:33:51,354 narrator: Dario Argento's "Suspiria" 821 00:33:51,398 --> 00:33:53,661 is the witch movie as high opera. 822 00:33:53,704 --> 00:33:56,185 - [screams] 823 00:33:56,229 --> 00:33:58,100 narrator: Filled with drama, 824 00:33:58,144 --> 00:34:01,930 music, color, and unforgettable violence. 825 00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:03,758 - [laughs] 826 00:34:07,805 --> 00:34:10,417 [eerie music] 827 00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:13,376 narrator: In 1977's "Suspiria"... 828 00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:15,161 ♪ 829 00:34:15,204 --> 00:34:18,251 Writer/director Dario Argento combined witchcraft 830 00:34:18,294 --> 00:34:20,905 with a violent murder mystery. 831 00:34:20,949 --> 00:34:22,516 - Aah! 832 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,039 narrator: To create a dreamlike masterpiece 833 00:34:24,083 --> 00:34:26,172 of horror. 834 00:34:26,215 --> 00:34:28,130 - [squeaking] 835 00:34:28,174 --> 00:34:30,959 narrator: To this day, there's nothing else quite like it. 836 00:34:31,002 --> 00:34:33,744 [loud droning music] 837 00:34:33,788 --> 00:34:35,833 - [screams] 838 00:34:35,877 --> 00:34:38,140 - "Suspiria" just feels weird at all times. 839 00:34:38,184 --> 00:34:40,142 [thunder cracks] 840 00:34:40,186 --> 00:34:42,057 As soon as she walks out of the airport, 841 00:34:42,101 --> 00:34:44,407 the music's going, the wind's blowing way too hard, 842 00:34:44,451 --> 00:34:45,887 and everything's, like, psychedelic, 843 00:34:45,930 --> 00:34:47,802 you're like, "The [bleep] is this crazy movie?" 844 00:34:47,845 --> 00:34:49,499 It's just so awesome. 845 00:34:49,543 --> 00:34:51,632 - You wouldn't understand. 846 00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:54,461 It all seemed so absurd. 847 00:34:54,504 --> 00:34:57,333 [eerie music] 848 00:34:57,377 --> 00:34:59,640 narrator: Suzy Bannion, played by Jessica Harper, 849 00:34:59,683 --> 00:35:04,471 has come to Germany to attend a prestigious dance academy. 850 00:35:04,514 --> 00:35:07,343 She enters a world of supernatural terror. 851 00:35:08,649 --> 00:35:10,390 - [screaming] 852 00:35:10,433 --> 00:35:12,218 narrator: And over the top violence. 853 00:35:12,261 --> 00:35:14,133 - [screaming] 854 00:35:14,176 --> 00:35:16,004 - The first, like, ten minutes of "Suspiria" 855 00:35:16,047 --> 00:35:18,920 is really unsettling, 856 00:35:18,963 --> 00:35:22,532 and you don't really know thelogic of the universe we're in. 857 00:35:22,576 --> 00:35:26,754 The sets are kinda, like, fantastical and amazing. 858 00:35:26,797 --> 00:35:28,277 - [screams] 859 00:35:28,321 --> 00:35:30,627 - Incredible eye candy, incredible music. 860 00:35:30,671 --> 00:35:32,194 - [screams] 861 00:35:32,238 --> 00:35:33,326 - And also the shocks are-- 862 00:35:33,369 --> 00:35:35,893 it's so extravagant and gory 863 00:35:35,937 --> 00:35:37,504 and unsettling. 864 00:35:37,547 --> 00:35:40,333 - [screaming] 865 00:35:49,516 --> 00:35:51,518 narrator: After traumatizing the audience 866 00:35:51,561 --> 00:35:53,781 with a brutal double murder, 867 00:35:53,824 --> 00:35:56,871 Argento follows Suzy into the academy. 868 00:35:56,914 --> 00:35:59,221 - Suzy Bannion, our new student. 869 00:35:59,265 --> 00:36:01,092 - Oh, yes. 870 00:36:01,136 --> 00:36:03,834 narrator: Suzy becomes the target of the sinister witches 871 00:36:03,878 --> 00:36:05,314 who run the school. 872 00:36:05,358 --> 00:36:09,013 [unsettling music] 873 00:36:09,057 --> 00:36:13,322 ♪ 874 00:36:13,366 --> 00:36:15,368 - Witch! 875 00:36:15,411 --> 00:36:20,155 ♪ 876 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:23,550 - One of the really notable elements of "Suspiria" 877 00:36:23,593 --> 00:36:27,075 that is more contemporary than at the time the movie was made 878 00:36:27,118 --> 00:36:30,296 is that it is female-centric. 879 00:36:30,339 --> 00:36:33,995 The protagonists and the antagonists are all female. 880 00:36:34,038 --> 00:36:38,391 - There isn't a patriarchal oppressor in "Suspiria." 881 00:36:38,434 --> 00:36:40,044 - [speaking foreign language] Who's there? 882 00:36:40,088 --> 00:36:41,742 - The power of this movie is matriarchy, 883 00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:45,006 and the hero's journey of it 884 00:36:45,049 --> 00:36:47,487 will have nothing to do with a woman 885 00:36:47,530 --> 00:36:51,099 standing in the face of a man trying to oppress her 886 00:36:51,142 --> 00:36:52,535 or hurt her 887 00:36:52,579 --> 00:36:54,755 because we actually don't even have to consider 888 00:36:54,798 --> 00:36:56,887 the rules and world of men at all. 889 00:36:56,931 --> 00:36:58,585 - Witch! 890 00:36:58,628 --> 00:37:01,283 - They're outside of all of our concerns here. 891 00:37:01,327 --> 00:37:03,459 ♪ 892 00:37:03,503 --> 00:37:05,418 - Witch! 893 00:37:05,461 --> 00:37:08,638 narrator: In "Suspiria," plot takes a back seat to style. 894 00:37:08,682 --> 00:37:10,205 - [gasps] 895 00:37:10,249 --> 00:37:13,426 [screaming] 896 00:37:13,469 --> 00:37:15,689 narrator: The film is like a surreal nightmare 897 00:37:15,732 --> 00:37:18,257 filled with gorgeously photographed murders 898 00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:21,608 set to a heart-pounding and groundbreaking soundtrack 899 00:37:21,651 --> 00:37:23,958 by the band Goblin. 900 00:37:24,001 --> 00:37:26,961 [tense music] 901 00:37:27,004 --> 00:37:30,660 ♪ 902 00:37:30,704 --> 00:37:33,750 - In terms upsetting some of the conventions 903 00:37:33,794 --> 00:37:35,274 of film scoring, 904 00:37:35,317 --> 00:37:37,711 I think "Suspiria's" a really good example... 905 00:37:37,754 --> 00:37:39,365 - [screaming] 906 00:37:39,408 --> 00:37:41,105 - Because a lot of the time, 907 00:37:41,149 --> 00:37:42,977 the music really takes a central, 908 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,718 kind of forefront position. 909 00:37:44,761 --> 00:37:47,634 - [screaming] 910 00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:53,596 - And I think a lot of the negative response to that film 911 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,425 is his aestheticization 912 00:37:56,469 --> 00:37:59,385 of these really horrific acts of violence. 913 00:37:59,428 --> 00:38:02,344 - [screaming] 914 00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:07,523 [horrific musical sting] 915 00:38:10,526 --> 00:38:11,919 - What Dario Argento was really doing, 916 00:38:11,962 --> 00:38:13,399 he was making an adult fairy tale. 917 00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:18,447 It's amazing to see that his inspiration for it 918 00:38:18,491 --> 00:38:20,319 was "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves." 919 00:38:20,362 --> 00:38:23,191 [thunder cracks] 920 00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:26,237 He wanted the color scheme of a Disney film, 921 00:38:26,281 --> 00:38:28,370 and he--he got it. - [gasps] 922 00:38:28,414 --> 00:38:30,372 - It's another externalization 923 00:38:30,416 --> 00:38:32,679 of the fears and the anxieties 924 00:38:32,722 --> 00:38:34,898 that the main character is going through. 925 00:38:34,942 --> 00:38:36,552 - [screams] 926 00:38:36,596 --> 00:38:38,380 - It really was supposed to be, like, a fairy tale, 927 00:38:38,424 --> 00:38:41,818 and originally he wanted young children to be in the film. 928 00:38:41,862 --> 00:38:45,039 He's got the door handles really high on the doors 929 00:38:45,082 --> 00:38:46,867 because he wanted to create certain things 930 00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:49,652 that it seemed as though they were little girls in some way. 931 00:38:49,696 --> 00:38:51,262 ♪ 932 00:38:51,306 --> 00:38:53,134 narrator: Eventually, 933 00:38:53,177 --> 00:38:56,355 Suzy uncovers the dark secrets of the academy. 934 00:38:56,398 --> 00:38:58,879 [suspenseful music] 935 00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:00,750 And she fights for her life 936 00:39:00,794 --> 00:39:02,491 against the coven's invisible queen 937 00:39:02,535 --> 00:39:04,319 and her zombie slave. 938 00:39:05,929 --> 00:39:09,106 - [laughing] 939 00:39:11,674 --> 00:39:13,372 narrator: Like a fairy tale, 940 00:39:13,415 --> 00:39:15,635 good ultimately triumphs over evil. 941 00:39:15,678 --> 00:39:17,463 - [shouts] 942 00:39:17,506 --> 00:39:19,769 - [agonized moaning] 943 00:39:19,813 --> 00:39:21,554 - [gasps] 944 00:39:21,597 --> 00:39:24,905 - That movie was taking the modern slasher genre 945 00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:27,168 and turning it into high art, 946 00:39:27,211 --> 00:39:29,431 and I feel like the horror genre 947 00:39:29,475 --> 00:39:32,391 is just now really beginning to catch up 948 00:39:32,434 --> 00:39:33,740 with the simple idea 949 00:39:33,783 --> 00:39:36,656 of high aspirational art 950 00:39:36,699 --> 00:39:38,527 in American horror cinema. 951 00:39:38,571 --> 00:39:41,443 [chilling music] 952 00:39:41,487 --> 00:39:43,663 ♪ 953 00:39:43,706 --> 00:39:47,449 Luca Guadagnino's recent update of "Suspiria" 954 00:39:47,493 --> 00:39:51,235 swaps Argento's bright colors for muted earth tones, 955 00:39:51,279 --> 00:39:53,107 and a serpentine plot. 956 00:39:53,150 --> 00:39:54,674 ♪ 957 00:39:54,717 --> 00:39:56,980 - I like the original "Suspiria," 958 00:39:57,024 --> 00:39:58,591 just 'cause it's gorgeous, 959 00:39:58,634 --> 00:40:00,331 but I will say in the remake, 960 00:40:00,375 --> 00:40:02,116 I felt like they made much better use of the dancing. 961 00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:04,423 [eerie piano music] 962 00:40:04,466 --> 00:40:06,903 - [moaning and crying] 963 00:40:06,947 --> 00:40:09,819 [eerie music] 964 00:40:09,863 --> 00:40:11,952 ♪ 965 00:40:11,995 --> 00:40:15,129 narrator: Rather than pitting Suzy against the witches, 966 00:40:15,172 --> 00:40:18,088 Guadagnino puts her in the middle of a battle 967 00:40:18,132 --> 00:40:20,569 in between Madame Blanc and Helena Markos, 968 00:40:20,613 --> 00:40:24,486 good and evil witches vying to run the academy. 969 00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:26,445 [horrific musical sting] - [screams] 970 00:40:26,488 --> 00:40:28,838 [scary music] 971 00:40:28,882 --> 00:40:30,710 - I liked that struggle for power 972 00:40:30,753 --> 00:40:33,321 between these two feminine forces. 973 00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:36,106 You have essentially, like, an election drama 974 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,848 between Markos and Blanc 975 00:40:38,892 --> 00:40:42,112 that culminates in a black Sabbath scene 976 00:40:42,156 --> 00:40:43,853 that's like, "Yeah, give me election drama 977 00:40:43,897 --> 00:40:46,290 "with people's heads literally exploding off their bodies 978 00:40:46,334 --> 00:40:48,858 in a chamber covered in women's hair." 979 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,037 I'll watch that seven out of seven days a week. 980 00:40:54,081 --> 00:40:55,517 - [moans] 981 00:40:55,561 --> 00:40:58,128 ♪ 982 00:40:58,172 --> 00:41:00,566 - It's not common in other genres 983 00:41:00,609 --> 00:41:04,134 to see women as powerful and dangerous. 984 00:41:04,178 --> 00:41:05,309 - Find him. 985 00:41:05,353 --> 00:41:07,398 - [screams] 986 00:41:07,442 --> 00:41:10,706 - And to watch them take back that power and use it 987 00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:12,447 to break free 988 00:41:12,491 --> 00:41:14,797 is really exciting. 989 00:41:14,841 --> 00:41:16,538 narrator: Young 990 00:41:16,582 --> 00:41:18,148 or old, 991 00:41:18,192 --> 00:41:20,716 cruel or kind, 992 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,677 witches embody the magic and mystery of femininity. 993 00:41:26,592 --> 00:41:27,854 They command our respect. 994 00:41:27,897 --> 00:41:29,551 - Oh, God! 995 00:41:29,595 --> 00:41:31,335 narrator: And remind us 996 00:41:31,379 --> 00:41:32,946 that the people who brought us into this world... 997 00:41:34,687 --> 00:41:36,340 Can also take us out of it. 998 00:41:36,384 --> 00:41:37,994 - You're doomed forever! 999 00:41:38,038 --> 00:41:39,518 - [screams] 1000 00:41:39,561 --> 00:41:42,390 - [screams] [thumps]