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[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]

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OUR FAMILY AND THEIR FAMILY

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HAD BEEN IN EACH OTHER'S LIVES

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GOING ON PROBABLY
CLOSE TO 10 YEARS.

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YOU KNOW, THE BIRTHDAYS
AND ANNIVERSARIES AND HOLIDAYS

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AND COUNTLESS CHURCH FUNCTIONS

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AND OVERNIGHT,

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WE LOST THEM ALL.

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WE BURIED FOUR,

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BUT WE LOST THEM ALL.
[ SNIFFLES ]

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♪♪

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THE BIBLE TELLS US THERE ARE
DEMONS THAT WALK AMONG US.

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I REALLY BELIEVE THAT.

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I SIT SOMETIMES LOOKING
AT CHRISTMAS TREES AT HOME

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DURING THE HOLIDAYS,

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AND MY MIND GOES BACK TO 1997.

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NOTHING'S EVER THE SAME AGAIN,

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AND YOU LOOK AT
EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY.

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ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING TIMES
THAT MY MOM ENJOYED

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WAS CHRISTMAS,

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SO GETTING TO OPEN
THOSE PRESENTS WAS FUN,

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BUT WE CRIED THE WHOLE TIME.

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[ SNIFFLES ]

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WE KNEW WHERE THEY'D COME FROM.

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THEY SAID,
"LOVE MAMA AND DADDY,"

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BUT THEY WEREN'T WITH US
TO OPEN THEM.

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NOBODY'S EVER ASKED
ABOUT MY MOTHER.

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THEY ALL JUST WANTED TO KNOW
WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT,

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NOT GET TO KNOW THE STORY.

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I THINK IT AFFECTED THE CITY
OF SANTA CLAUS

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IN A WAY THAT
WAS JUST BRUTALLY HARSH.

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SANTA CLAUS IS SMALL,
BUT QUAINT.

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THEY'RE FRIENDLY.

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EVERYBODY KNEW THEIR NEIGHBORS.

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I LOVED LIVING IN SANTA CLAUS.

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I GOT TO WORK ON
DECEMBER 4, 1997,

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AND A COWORKER COME TO ME
AND SAYS,

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"RACHAEL, HAVE YOU HEARD
ABOUT DANNY DANIELS?"

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AND I SAID
"NO, WHAT'S GOING ON?"

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AND HE SAID, "WELL, HE KILLED
HIS FAMILY LAST NIGHT

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AND THEN SHOT
AND KILLED HIMSELF."

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IMMEDIATELY, I KNEW
THAT WAS NOT TRUE.

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I WAS VERY UPSET AND ANGRY
ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S NOT TRUE.

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MATTER OF FACT, I EVEN SAID,
"I WAS JUST THERE LAST NIGHT.

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THERE IS NO WAY
THAT IS POSSIBLE."

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AND HE SAID, "WELL,
THERE'S LAW EVERYWHERE.

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SOMETHING'S HAPPENED."

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SO I WAS CONCERNED,
I TRIED CALLING THEIR HOME.

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HEY, Y'ALL, IT'S RACHAEL.

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JUST GIVE ME A CALL BACK
WHEN YOU GET THIS, OKAY?

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DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER.

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-OKAY, BYE.
[ RECEIVER THUDS ]

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AT THAT POINT,
I DID HAVE A FEELING

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THAT SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED

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SO I CALLED MY MOM
AND DADDY AND SAID,

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"LISTEN, I'VE HEARD
THAT SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED

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AT KIM AND DANNY'S,
AND CAN Y'ALL GO CHECK ON THEM?"

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WHEN THEY GOT TO THEIR HOME
THERE WAS LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE.

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THERE WAS SOMETHING
OBVIOUSLY GOING ON,

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AND MAMA AND DADDY
COULDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION,

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AT WHICH POINT
THEY CAME BACK TO CALL

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TO LET ME KNOW THAT YES,
SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED.

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STILL NOT FOR SURE
WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT'S BAD.

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SO WHEN I HUNG UP,
I WAS EVEN MORE CONFUSED

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AND EVEN MORE CONCERNED.

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WHEN MY PARENTS FIRST
BECAME A FOSTER FAMILY,

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WE KNEW THAT AT ANY TIME
OF THE DAY,

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ANY TIME OF THE NIGHT,

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WE COULD GET NEW CHILDREN
IN OUR HOME OF ANY AGE.

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IT WAS JUST SO MUCH FUN.

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IT WAS SO EXCITING
TO HAVE KIDS TO PLAY WITH.

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THE FIRST CHILD THAT WE HAD
IN OUR HOME

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WAS A YOUNG, RED-HEADED GIRL,

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AND I JUST KNEW THAT SHE WAS
GONNA BE MY BEST FRIEND.

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SHE WAS THE SAME AGE AS I WAS,
SHE WAS SO NICE,

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AND I JUST LOVED HER RED HAIR.

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HER MOTHER WOULD COME AND VISIT

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AND SOMETIMES HER
OLDER BROTHER WOULD COME.

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HIS NAME WAS JERRY HEIDLER.

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JERRY WAS ALWAYS VERY FRIENDLY
WITH THE KIDS.

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HE'D FISH WITH THE KIDS.

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HE'D JUMP ON THE TRAMPOLINE
WITH US KIDS.

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I CAN REMEMBER HIM GIVING ME
PIGGYBACK RIDES

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AND PUTTING ME
ON HIS SHOULDERS.

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JERRY WAS SO MUCH FUN.

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HE WOULD ALWAYS PLAY WITH US,

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AND HE SEEMED TO BE VERY LOVING
AND KIND TO THE CHILDREN.

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HE SEEMED VERY DISTANT
WITH ADULTS.

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HE KIND OF STUCK OUT
A LITTLE BIT,

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BUT AS CHILDREN,
YOU DON'T SEE THOSE THINGS.

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IN DECEMBER OF 1997,

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MY MOM AND MY DAD,

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WE HAD FOSTER CHILDREN,
AMANDA AND COREY AND GABE,

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MY STEPSISTER, JESSIE,

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AND THEN ME
AND BROOKE AND BRYANT.

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THE NIGHT OF DECEMBER 3rd,

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I REMEMBER BEING WOKEN UP,

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SHOOKEN, BY JERRY.

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AMBER, AMBER!

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WAKE UP, WAKE UP!
WE NEED TO LEAVE!

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Daniels:
AND HE'S YELLING AT ME TO,

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"WAKE UP. WAKE UP.
YOU'VE GOT TO WAKE UP."

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- JERRY?
- WE NEED TO GO. LET'S GO.

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- COME ON, COME ON, COME ON!
- WHAT'S HAPPENING?

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COME ON! WE NEED TO GO!

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AND WHEN I FINALLY WAKE UP,
I CAN HEAR KIDS CRYING.

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AND HE'S JUST YELLING AT ME.

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"WE'VE GOT TO GO!

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"WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT
OF THIS HOUSE!

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WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT
OF THIS HOUSE RIGHT NOW!"

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I WAS FRIGHTENED AND SCARED
AND HEARING THE GIRLS CRYING.

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I DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT WAS GOING ON.

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AS WE'RE WALKING DOWN
THE HALLWAY,

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HE'S GOT ME BY THE HAND
AND I SAID,

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"WELL, LET ME GO GET MAMA,"

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AND HE SAID,
"MAMA AND DADDY IS NOT HERE.

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"THEY'VE ALREADY LEFT
WITH THE OTHER KIDS

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"AND THEY TOLD ME
THAT I WAS TO COME GET YOU

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AND THE GIRLS TO GET
Y'ALL OUT OF THE HOUSE."

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AND ALL I HAVE IS AMANDA
AND BROOKE,

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AND COREY AND GABE ARE HIDING
UNDER THE KITCHEN TABLE.

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AND WE'RE WALKING OUT
THE FRONT DOOR AND I'M LIKE,

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"WHY ARE WE LEAVING THEM?
WHY ARE WE LEAVING THEM?"

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HE SAID, "YOUR MOM AND DAD'S
GOING TO COME BACK

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AND GET THEM."

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I WAS JUST CONFUSED,
AND I WAS LOST,

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AND JERRY WAS ALWAYS GOOD TO US

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THE DAYS THAT HE WAS AROUND,

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SO IT FELT OKAY
TO LEAVE WITH HIM,

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SO WE GOT IN THE VAN WITH HIM,
AND WE LEFT.

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I WAS NINE MONTHS OUT OF
THE POLICE ACADEMY

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WHEN THIS INCIDENT
OCCURRED IN SANTA CLAUS.

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3:30 IN THE MORNING,
THEY GAVE ME A CALL

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TO A WELFARE CHECK OUT ON

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DASHER STREET IN SANTA CLAUS.

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WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE LOCATION

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A LOT OF INTERIOR LIGHTS
WERE ON,

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BUT WHEN I KNOCKED ON THE DOOR,
THE DOOR WAS ALREADY OPEN.

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SO I PUSHED IT ON OPEN...

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HELLO?

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...ANNOUNCED SHERIFF'S OFFICE
SEVERAL TIMES

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AND GOT NO RESPONSE.

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ANYBODY HERE?

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I'M HEARING A MUSIC...
IT SOUNDED LIKE MUSIC

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COMING FROM A CLOCK RADIO
AND A BABY CRYING.

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SO I COME ON INTO THE HOUSE,

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AGAIN ANNOUNCING
SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

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IMMEDIATELY TO MY RIGHT
WAS A CHRISTMAS TREE,

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A LOT OF PRESENTS UNDER IT.

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I WALKED ON IN,
STILL ANNOUNCING...

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HELLO?

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...NOT HEARING ANYTHING
BUT THIS BABY CRYING

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AND A CLOCK RADIO.

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I WALKED INTO THE ROOM,

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AND I JUST STOOD THERE
AT THE DOORWAY

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AND HAVING A HARD TIME BELIEVING
WHAT I'M SEEING

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AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

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IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING
THAT YOUR BRAIN

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WILL CONNECT UP
FOR YOU THAT QUICKLY.

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I'M SEEING WHAT'S LEFT
OF A SMALL MALE CHILD

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AND WHAT'S LEFT OF HIS HEAD
LAYING IN THE BED.

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MY MOM GREW UP LIVING
ON THE STREETS,

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CHASING ONE MAN
AFTER THE OTHER TO FIND LOVE

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BECAUSE HER BIOLOGICAL MOTHER
THREW HER OUT TO THE WOLVES

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AND DIDN'T WANT THEM,
ANY OF HER CHILDREN.

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AND ONE DAY,

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MY MOM HAD ALL
HER CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY FROM HER

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BECAUSE SHE HAD NEVER HAD
A STABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR US...

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ME, MY YOUNGER SISTER, BROOKE,
AND HER TWIN, BRYANT.

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SHE BROKE DOWN AND DECIDED
SHE WOULD CHANGE HER LIFE.

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THROUGH A.A.,
MY MOTHER MET DANNY DANIELS.

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IT WAS LIKE HER KNIGHT
IN SHINING ARMOR.

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BUT SHE WOULD TELL YOU,
I DON'T KNOW WHY HE CHOSE HER.

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SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING
TO OFFER HIM, BUT HE DID.

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HE FELL IN LOVE WITH HER
FROM THE DAY HE MET HER.

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THEY HAD QUIT DRINKING.

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THEY HAD CHANGED EVERYTHING
ABOUT THEIR LIVES.

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THE DAY THAT CHILD SERVICES
LET ME RETURN BACK HOME

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TO MY MOTHER WAS PROBABLY
ONE OF THE BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE.

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♪♪

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I RAN TO HER ARMS IN A NEW HOME,

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A BIG, BEAUTIFUL HOUSE WITH
A YARD THAT WE COULD PLAY IN,

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AND THERE WAS A MAN
JUST STANDING THERE, OPEN ARMS,

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AND WELCOMED ME INTO HIS HOUSE,

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AND WANTED TO LOVE ME
JUST AS MUCH AS MY MOM.

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♪♪

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I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WOULDN'T
HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME

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WITH HER LEFT.

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[ CRYING ]

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WHILE WE'RE DRIVING DOWN
DASHER STREET,

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THE OTHER TWO GIRLS
ARE JUST TERRIFIED,

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AND THEY WOULDN'T
TELL ME ANYTHING,

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AND I KEPT ASKING THEM
IF THEY WERE OKAY.

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THEY WERE JUST CRYING,
YOU KNOW, JUST A SOB CRY.

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WE'RE ALL CONFUSED.

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WE'RE ALL JUST TERRIFIED
AT THIS POINT

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BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE
WHAT'S HAPPENING.

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♪♪

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WE GOT DOWN TO THE END
OF DASHER STREET,

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AND THEN WE TURNED LEFT ON
U.S. 1,

234
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,140
AND WE JUST STARTED DRIVING.

235
00:12:55,137 --> 00:13:04,307
♪♪

236
00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:13,720
♪♪

237
00:13:13,724 --> 00:13:17,314
I'M STILL STANDING THERE
IN DISBELIEF, REALLY,

238
00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:19,100
BUT AT THE SAME TIME,

239
00:13:19,103 --> 00:13:21,103
THE HAIR ON THE BACK
OF YOUR NECK'S STANDING UP,

240
00:13:21,103 --> 00:13:23,243
AND YOU'RE WONDERING
ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

241
00:13:23,241 --> 00:13:25,241
YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE STILL
GOT AN ACTIVE SHOOTER

242
00:13:25,241 --> 00:13:28,451
ON SITE OR WHAT THE DEAL IS.

243
00:13:28,448 --> 00:13:32,168
I IMMEDIATELY DREW MY WEAPON

244
00:13:32,172 --> 00:13:35,722
AND DID A QUICK PEEK
TO THE OTHER ROOM.

245
00:13:35,724 --> 00:13:37,794
♪♪

246
00:13:37,793 --> 00:13:39,973
THE WHOLE TIME I'M HEARING
WHAT SOUNDS LIKE MUSIC

247
00:13:39,965 --> 00:13:43,715
COMING FROM A CLOCK RADIO
AND A BABY CRYING.

248
00:13:43,724 --> 00:13:45,834
[ BABY CRYING ]

249
00:13:45,827 --> 00:13:48,097
AND ABOUT THE TIME
I GOT BACK INTO

250
00:13:48,103 --> 00:13:53,383
THE LIVING ROOM,
DINING ROOM AREA,

251
00:13:53,379 --> 00:13:57,339
A SMALL CHILD JUST POPS UP FROM
UNDER THE DINING ROOM TABLE.

252
00:13:57,344 --> 00:14:06,694
♪♪

253
00:14:06,689 --> 00:14:10,339
I WENT FULL-ON READY TO SHOOT.

254
00:14:10,344 --> 00:14:13,794
♪♪

255
00:14:13,793 --> 00:14:15,793
AS MY DADDY USED TO SAY,
IT'S A THOUSAND WONDERS

256
00:14:15,793 --> 00:14:17,413
THAT I DIDN'T SHOOT HIM,

257
00:14:17,413 --> 00:14:23,033
AND I'M VERY,
VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

258
00:14:23,034 --> 00:14:26,724
HE REALLY DIDN'T SAY
MUCH OF ANYTHING.

259
00:14:26,724 --> 00:14:31,414
HE KIND OF POINTED INTO THE...
TOWARDS THE BEDROOM,

260
00:14:31,413 --> 00:14:36,343
AND THERE APPEARED TO BE BLOOD
AROUND THE KNOB

261
00:14:36,344 --> 00:14:41,454
AND ON THE FRAME
OF THE BEDROOM DOOR.

262
00:14:41,448 --> 00:14:45,998
I VERY GENTLY JUST KIND OF
GRABBED THE DOORKNOB

263
00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,760
WITH A COUPLE FINGERS
AND OPENED IT ENOUGH

264
00:14:51,758 --> 00:14:55,518
TO SEE WHAT APPEARED TO BE
A MALE BODY IN A BED.

265
00:14:55,517 --> 00:15:04,067
♪♪

266
00:15:04,068 --> 00:15:06,658
♪♪

267
00:15:06,655 --> 00:15:08,685
AND WHEN I OPENED THAT DOOR,

268
00:15:08,689 --> 00:15:11,969
I DISCOVERED
WHERE THE BABY CRYING

269
00:15:11,965 --> 00:15:15,475
AND THE ALARM CLOCK
WAS COMING FROM.

270
00:15:15,482 --> 00:15:20,452
♪♪

271
00:15:20,448 --> 00:15:24,068
THE BABY WAS STANDING
ON THE SIDE OF THE BED,

272
00:15:24,068 --> 00:15:26,588
STANDING HOLDING
ONTO THE SHEETS,

273
00:15:26,586 --> 00:15:31,656
CRYING, TRYING
TO WAKE HIS MOTHER UP,

274
00:15:31,655 --> 00:15:35,275
AND THAT'S WHEN I SAW
THE BODY OF THE LADY

275
00:15:35,275 --> 00:15:36,925
THAT HAD BEEN KILLED.

276
00:15:36,931 --> 00:15:40,281
♪♪

277
00:15:40,275 --> 00:15:42,305
I LOOKED ACROSS THE ROOM,

278
00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:46,620
AND I DISCOVERED
THE BODY OF A TEENAGER

279
00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:49,830
THAT WAS LAYING CRUMPLED
ON THE STEPS

280
00:15:49,827 --> 00:15:54,277
COMING DOWN FROM THAT DOOR.

281
00:15:54,275 --> 00:15:58,515
YOU GOT ONE BODY ON ONE END
OF THE HOUSE

282
00:15:58,517 --> 00:16:01,097
AND THREE BODIES
ON THE OTHER END OF THE HOUSE,

283
00:16:01,103 --> 00:16:02,553
IT'S JUST HARD TO IMAGINE

284
00:16:02,551 --> 00:16:05,411
THAT ANYBODY COULD DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

285
00:16:05,413 --> 00:16:14,693
♪♪

286
00:16:14,689 --> 00:16:20,409
♪♪

287
00:16:20,413 --> 00:16:22,973
THIS IS A PICTURE OF
THE PARENTS,

288
00:16:22,965 --> 00:16:26,895
MR. AND MRS. DANIELS.

289
00:16:26,896 --> 00:16:31,096
THAT'S JUST THE WAY
I FOUND THEM.

290
00:16:31,103 --> 00:16:34,213
THE BABY WAS STANDING
RIGHT IN HERE,

291
00:16:34,206 --> 00:16:39,376
HANGING ONTO THE BEDSHEET THERE,
STANDING UP.

292
00:16:39,379 --> 00:16:45,169
♪♪

293
00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:47,212
THIS PHOTO IS OF, UH,

294
00:16:47,206 --> 00:16:51,406
PRIMARILY OF
THE TEENAGE DAUGHTER.

295
00:16:51,413 --> 00:16:55,723
♪♪

296
00:16:55,724 --> 00:17:00,384
YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT
PROBABLY HOW THAT HAPPENED.

297
00:17:00,379 --> 00:17:04,379
I MEAN, SHE RUN TOWARDS WHERE
SHE FIGURED SAFETY WAS AT,

298
00:17:04,379 --> 00:17:07,479
AND, UH,

299
00:17:07,482 --> 00:17:10,862
TO HER DADDY.

300
00:17:10,862 --> 00:17:14,452
I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW HELPLESS
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON HIS PART

301
00:17:14,448 --> 00:17:17,788
TO KNOW THAT
HE REALLY COULDN'T HELP.

302
00:17:17,793 --> 00:17:27,383
♪♪

303
00:17:27,379 --> 00:17:37,309
♪♪

304
00:17:37,310 --> 00:17:41,240
WE DROVE ALL THE WAY
TO THE BAXLEY BRIDGE ON U.S. 1,

305
00:17:41,241 --> 00:17:45,591
AND HE PULLED OFF
TO GO UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE.

306
00:17:45,586 --> 00:17:46,786
THERE'S NO HOUSES.

307
00:17:46,793 --> 00:17:48,483
IT'S JUST A SECLUDED AREA,

308
00:17:48,482 --> 00:17:52,142
JUST BUSHES AND A DIRT PATH
AND THE RIVER.

309
00:17:52,137 --> 00:17:58,897
♪♪

310
00:17:58,896 --> 00:18:00,586
MY MIND STARTED RACING.

311
00:18:00,586 --> 00:18:02,716
YOU KNOW, "WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW?
WHAT ARE WE DOING?

312
00:18:02,724 --> 00:18:04,454
OH, MY GOD.
IS HE GOING TO KILL US?"

313
00:18:04,448 --> 00:18:08,378
[ CRYING ]

314
00:18:08,379 --> 00:18:10,759
AMANDA AND BROOKE WERE
STILL SITTING VERY CLOSE,

315
00:18:10,758 --> 00:18:12,718
HOLDING EACH OTHER.

316
00:18:12,724 --> 00:18:16,594
HE MADE THEM GET
INTO THE FRONT SEAT,

317
00:18:16,586 --> 00:18:21,306
AND THEN I KNEW HE WAS ABOUT
TO DO SOMETHING VERY BAD TO ME.

318
00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:29,720
♪♪

319
00:18:29,724 --> 00:18:34,764
♪♪

320
00:18:34,758 --> 00:18:38,788
HE GOT IN THE BACK SEAT,
AND I STARTED CRYING

321
00:18:38,793 --> 00:18:40,593
AND ASK HIM WHAT HE WAS DOING,

322
00:18:40,586 --> 00:18:43,826
AND I CAN REMEMBER
MY HANDS SHAKING.

323
00:18:43,827 --> 00:18:48,757
AND THEN HE STARTED TELLING ME
TO TAKE MY CLOTHES OFF,

324
00:18:48,758 --> 00:18:52,238
SO THEN I KNEW
WHAT HE WAS ABOUT TO DO.

325
00:18:52,241 --> 00:18:56,481
I CAN REMEMBER SEEING AMANDA'S
FACE LOOKING AT ME AND CRYING,

326
00:18:56,482 --> 00:19:01,482
AND HER AND BROOKE
WERE STILL HOLDING EACH OTHER

327
00:19:01,482 --> 00:19:03,722
WHILE I LAID THERE NAKED,

328
00:19:03,724 --> 00:19:06,454
WATCHING HIM DO
WHAT HE WAS DOING TO ME.

329
00:19:06,448 --> 00:19:11,068
I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO
SURVIVE THAT PART OF THAT NIGHT.

330
00:19:11,068 --> 00:19:12,688
♪♪

331
00:19:12,689 --> 00:19:14,589
I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE.

332
00:19:14,586 --> 00:19:20,616
♪♪

333
00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:23,000
[ CRYING ] BUT HE TOLD ME
IF I DIDN'T STOP CRYING

334
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,280
THAT HE WOULD DO IT TO THEM,
SO I SUCKED IT UP,

335
00:19:28,275 --> 00:19:31,375
AND I TOOK IT ALL
SO HE WOULDN'T DO IT TO THEM.

336
00:19:36,206 --> 00:19:41,546
NOBODY DESERVES THAT.

337
00:19:41,551 --> 00:19:43,101
IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME
TO FIGURE OUT THERE

338
00:19:43,103 --> 00:19:46,033
WAS NOTHING I HAD DONE
TO MAKE HIM DO THAT.

339
00:19:46,034 --> 00:19:49,794
HE WAS JUST A HORRIBLE PERSON.

340
00:19:49,793 --> 00:19:54,143
[ SNIFFLING ]

341
00:19:54,137 --> 00:19:56,657
BUT THERE WAS NOTHING
I COULD DO TO STOP HIM.

342
00:19:56,655 --> 00:20:04,965
♪♪

343
00:20:04,965 --> 00:20:10,615
♪♪

344
00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:15,240
AT THAT POINT, NOT KNOWING
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE HOUSE,

345
00:20:15,241 --> 00:20:17,661
IF THERE'S STILL
A SHOOTER ON SITE,

346
00:20:17,655 --> 00:20:18,925
I GRABBED THE BABY UP,

347
00:20:18,931 --> 00:20:22,001
GRABBED THE OTHER LITTLE BOY
UP IN MY ARMS,

348
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,760
AND WE WENT BACK OUT THE DOOR.

349
00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:29,548
I HAD RADIOED MY DISPATCHERS,

350
00:20:29,551 --> 00:20:32,721
ADVISING THEM
THAT I NEEDED HELP,

351
00:20:32,724 --> 00:20:36,664
IN OUR JARGON, 10-18,
WHICH MEANS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE,

352
00:20:36,655 --> 00:20:39,235
THAT I HAD A QUADRUPLE HOMICIDE.

353
00:20:39,241 --> 00:20:41,691
♪♪

354
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:50,450
♪♪

355
00:20:50,448 --> 00:20:53,478
GOSH, I HADN'T SEEN THIS
IN A LONG TIME.

356
00:20:53,482 --> 00:20:57,102
♪♪

357
00:20:57,103 --> 00:20:59,523
THAT WAS A SWEET DAY.

358
00:20:59,517 --> 00:21:01,207
KIDS WERE HAPPY.
THEY WERE HAPPY.

359
00:21:01,206 --> 00:21:03,616
WE WERE HAPPY.

360
00:21:03,620 --> 00:21:09,450
SHE WAS GIDDY, NERVOUS,

361
00:21:09,448 --> 00:21:11,968
AND DANNY WAS JUST DANNY.

362
00:21:11,965 --> 00:21:13,715
HE WAS HOPING THEY WOULD
HURRY UP IN CASE

363
00:21:13,724 --> 00:21:15,624
SHE CHANGED HER MIND,
I THINK. [ LAUGHS ]

364
00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:20,030
BUT IT WAS VERY SWEET.

365
00:21:20,034 --> 00:21:23,624
SMALL LITTLE CEREMONY,
NOTHING GRAND,

366
00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:26,310
BUT FOR HER,

367
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:29,830
I MEAN, YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT
IT WAS THE ROYAL WEDDING.

368
00:21:29,827 --> 00:21:31,517
THAT WAS A GOOD DAY.

369
00:21:31,517 --> 00:21:40,547
♪♪

370
00:21:40,551 --> 00:21:48,901
♪♪

371
00:21:48,896 --> 00:21:52,166
I LEFT WORK, WENT STRAIGHT
TO MAMA AND DADDY'S.

372
00:21:52,172 --> 00:21:53,722
HERE YOU GO, HONEY.

373
00:21:53,724 --> 00:21:56,554
- THANKS, MOM.
- HOW ARE YOU HOLDING UP?

374
00:21:56,551 --> 00:21:58,691
WE WERE ALL JUST IN SHOCK,

375
00:21:58,689 --> 00:22:02,029
COULDN'T WRAP OUR HEADS
AROUND IT.

376
00:22:02,034 --> 00:22:07,794
I WOULD GO FROM EVERY EMOTION
IMAGINABLE, YOU KNOW, PANIC.

377
00:22:07,793 --> 00:22:11,863
I WAS CONFUSED, DISTRAUGHT,

378
00:22:11,862 --> 00:22:15,662
AND I FELT HELPLESS,

379
00:22:15,655 --> 00:22:17,925
LIKE YOU COULDN'T...

380
00:22:17,931 --> 00:22:19,931
YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

381
00:22:19,931 --> 00:22:21,101
NO, YOU NEED TO BE PATIENT.

382
00:22:21,103 --> 00:22:22,793
- YEAH.
- STAY CALM.

383
00:22:22,793 --> 00:22:25,213
Phillips: THERE WAS A LOT OF
PRAYER AT THAT TIME.

384
00:22:25,206 --> 00:22:34,686
♪♪

385
00:22:34,689 --> 00:22:42,479
♪♪

386
00:22:42,482 --> 00:22:48,282
THERE WAS FOUR BODIES IS WHAT
WE HAD HEARD, FOUR BODIES.

387
00:22:48,275 --> 00:22:53,655
THAT WAS WHEN HE WAS ABLE
TO TELL US THAT KIM AND DANNY,

388
00:22:53,655 --> 00:22:57,235
JESSIE, AND BRYANT WERE GONE.

389
00:22:57,241 --> 00:23:05,971
♪♪

390
00:23:05,965 --> 00:23:07,995
THEY WERE GOOD PEOPLE,

391
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,970
AND NOTHING THEY DID...

392
00:23:12,965 --> 00:23:14,135
CAUSED IT.

393
00:23:14,137 --> 00:23:19,067
♪♪

394
00:23:19,068 --> 00:23:24,828
THEY WERE LIVING THEIR LIFE
TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

395
00:23:24,827 --> 00:23:28,897
IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE'S
POOR CHOICES, BAD DECISIONS,

396
00:23:28,896 --> 00:23:31,376
THAT BROUGHT THIS OUTCOME.

397
00:23:31,379 --> 00:23:38,589
♪♪

398
00:23:38,586 --> 00:23:41,136
THEY DON'T KNOW
WHERE THE GIRLS ARE.

399
00:23:41,137 --> 00:23:43,137
WHAT?

400
00:23:43,137 --> 00:23:47,617
WE WERE STILL NOT SURE
WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THE GIRLS.

401
00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:49,660
WHERE WERE THE GIRLS?

402
00:23:49,655 --> 00:23:56,995
♪♪

403
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,410
[ Voice breaking ]
ARE THEY SOMEWHERE DEAD?

404
00:23:59,413 --> 00:24:08,763
♪♪

405
00:24:08,758 --> 00:24:15,338
♪♪

406
00:24:15,344 --> 00:24:18,524
SO WHENEVER
HE WAS FINISHED WITH ME,

407
00:24:18,517 --> 00:24:21,447
HE LET ME PUT
MY CLOTHES BACK ON,

408
00:24:21,448 --> 00:24:24,788
AND HE GOT OUT AND GOT
BACK IN THE FRONT SEAT

409
00:24:24,793 --> 00:24:27,793
AND JUST STARTED DRIVING AGAIN,

410
00:24:27,793 --> 00:24:31,933
AND IT JUST GOT REALLY QUIET.

411
00:24:31,931 --> 00:24:33,621
WAS OUR LIVES GONNA END?

412
00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:36,860
WERE WE GONNA BE ABLE
TO GET AWAY FROM HIM?

413
00:24:36,862 --> 00:24:40,072
WAS SOMEBODY GONNA EVENTUALLY
FIND US AND HELP US,

414
00:24:40,068 --> 00:24:45,028
OR WERE THEY GONNA FIND US DEAD?

415
00:24:45,034 --> 00:24:47,764
JERRY STOPPED ON TOP
OF THE BRIDGE.

416
00:24:47,758 --> 00:24:49,688
MOVE, MOVE!

417
00:24:49,689 --> 00:24:51,719
HE MADE US GET OUT OF THE VAN,

418
00:24:51,724 --> 00:24:54,764
AND HE PULLED THE GUN OUT

419
00:24:54,758 --> 00:24:58,688
AND TOLD US TO STAND THERE,

420
00:24:58,689 --> 00:25:01,099
AND HE GOT UP ON THE EDGE
OF THE BRIDGE

421
00:25:01,103 --> 00:25:07,033
AND THREW THE GUN OVER.

422
00:25:07,034 --> 00:25:10,284
AND MY MIND JUST SAID,
"THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.

423
00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:12,335
"YOU'RE OUT OF THAT VAN.

424
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:16,664
"RUN, RUN LIKE HELL
AND GET AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

425
00:25:16,655 --> 00:25:21,545
WE CAN HIDE IN THE WOODS,
JUST RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN."

426
00:25:21,551 --> 00:25:23,141
RUN!

427
00:25:23,137 --> 00:25:27,547
WE WERE BAREFOOT AND RUNNING
WITH NO SHOES, JUST PAJAMAS.

428
00:25:27,551 --> 00:25:30,281
♪♪

429
00:25:30,275 --> 00:25:31,445
NO!

430
00:25:31,448 --> 00:25:34,828
Daniels: JERRY STARTED SCREAMING
AT US TO STOP,

431
00:25:34,827 --> 00:25:38,207
STOP RUNNING,
GET BACK IN THE VAN.

432
00:25:38,206 --> 00:25:41,516
AND HE GRABBED BROOKE,
AND HE SHOOK HER,

433
00:25:41,517 --> 00:25:43,787
AND HE TOLD ME
IF I DIDN'T GET BACK IN THE VAN

434
00:25:43,793 --> 00:25:46,073
THAT HE WAS GONNA
THROW HER OVER THE BRIDGE,

435
00:25:46,068 --> 00:25:48,168
AND I'D NEVER SEE HER AGAIN.

436
00:25:48,172 --> 00:25:52,762
♪♪

437
00:25:52,758 --> 00:25:54,338
SO WE GOT BACK IN.

438
00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:59,074
♪♪

439
00:25:59,068 --> 00:26:02,788
HE STARTED DRIVING SOUTH
ON U.S. 1 TOWARDS BAXLEY,

440
00:26:02,793 --> 00:26:05,593
AND WE WERE REALLY QUIET.

441
00:26:05,586 --> 00:26:10,276
WHEN WE GOT TO ALMA,
HE STARTED ACTING WEIRD.

442
00:26:10,275 --> 00:26:12,895
HE'D TURN DOWN THIS ROAD
AND SO I ASKED HIM AGAIN,

443
00:26:12,896 --> 00:26:15,716
"WHERE ARE YOU TAKING US?
WHAT ARE WE DOING?"

444
00:26:15,724 --> 00:26:17,384
HE GOT AGITATED
AND STARTED YELLING.

445
00:26:17,379 --> 00:26:20,029
SHUT UP!
SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP!

446
00:26:20,034 --> 00:26:23,554
AND THEN HE PULLED UP
IN A LITTLE DEAD-END SPOT

447
00:26:23,551 --> 00:26:27,001
AND PUT US OUT AND TOLD US

448
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,690
THAT WE WERE TO WAIT THERE
FOR FIVE MINUTES

449
00:26:28,689 --> 00:26:31,279
- UNTIL HE CAME BACK.
- YOU ALL STAY HERE.

450
00:26:31,275 --> 00:26:33,855
HE JUST KEPT SAYING,
"I'll BE BACK IN FIVE MINUTES.

451
00:26:33,862 --> 00:26:36,592
"I'll BE BACK IN FIVE MINUTES,
AND YOU'D BETTER BE HERE.

452
00:26:36,586 --> 00:26:38,856
I'll BE BACK IN FIVE MINUTES."

453
00:26:38,862 --> 00:26:43,002
IT'S ALL I CAN REMEMBER HEARING.

454
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,030
AS SOON AS WE COULDN'T SEE
HIS LIGHTS ANYMORE,

455
00:26:45,034 --> 00:26:48,344
I COUNTED TO 60 FIVE TIMES
AS FAST AS I COULD

456
00:26:48,344 --> 00:26:50,974
SO I KNEW THAT HE WAS GONE.

457
00:26:50,965 --> 00:26:52,545
I TOLD THE GIRLS THAT,
"WE'VE GOT TO FIND HELP.

458
00:26:52,551 --> 00:26:54,281
"WE'VE GOT TO TELL THEM
WHAT'S HAPPENED.

459
00:26:54,275 --> 00:26:56,515
WE'VE GOT TO FIND OUR PARENTS.
WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK HOME."

460
00:26:56,517 --> 00:27:00,547
LET'S GO, LET'S GO.
COME ON, LET'S GO, LET'S GO!

461
00:27:00,551 --> 00:27:02,591
AND WE STARTED WALKING.

462
00:27:02,586 --> 00:27:10,896
♪♪

463
00:27:10,896 --> 00:27:13,716
♪♪

464
00:27:13,724 --> 00:27:15,524
WE SAW LIGHTS COMING DOWN
THE ROAD,

465
00:27:15,517 --> 00:27:18,237
AND WE KNEW THAT HE WAS
COMING BACK TO GET US.

466
00:27:18,241 --> 00:27:20,521
GO HIDE. GO HIDE!

467
00:27:20,517 --> 00:27:23,587
SO I MADE THE TWO GIRLS
JUMP DOWN IN THE DITCH

468
00:27:23,586 --> 00:27:25,446
TO TRY TO KEEP FROM BEING SEEN.

469
00:27:25,448 --> 00:27:29,208
♪♪

470
00:27:29,206 --> 00:27:30,616
AND THE CAR SLOWED DOWN,

471
00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:33,000
AND I KNEW THAT WE HAD
JUST BEEN CAUGHT.

472
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,660
OUR LIVES WERE OVER.

473
00:27:34,655 --> 00:27:37,965
♪♪

474
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,620
♪♪

475
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,860
WHAT DO WE DO?
WHAT DO WE DO?

476
00:27:49,862 --> 00:27:51,622
GO, GO HIDE!

477
00:27:51,620 --> 00:27:58,410
♪♪

478
00:27:58,413 --> 00:27:59,723
Daniels: THE CAR SLOWED DOWN,

479
00:27:59,724 --> 00:28:01,414
AND I KNEW THAT
WE HAD JUST BEEN CAUGHT.

480
00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:05,383
♪♪

481
00:28:05,379 --> 00:28:06,829
OUR LIVES WERE OVER.

482
00:28:06,827 --> 00:28:13,757
♪♪

483
00:28:13,758 --> 00:28:16,138
IT WOUND UP BEING A COP CAR,

484
00:28:16,137 --> 00:28:20,277
AND HE STOPPED, AND HE GOT OUT.

485
00:28:20,275 --> 00:28:22,305
I SAID, "WE'VE BEEN KIDNAPPED."

486
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:24,930
"THIS IS OUR ADDRESS
ON DASHER STREET.

487
00:28:24,931 --> 00:28:26,411
YOU'VE GOT TO GET OUR PARENTS."

488
00:28:26,413 --> 00:28:31,623
HE COULD TELL THAT
SOMETHING WAS WRONG.

489
00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:35,410
SO HE DROVE US
TO THE POLICE STATION.

490
00:28:35,413 --> 00:28:40,313
IT FELT LIKE HOURS HAD
JUST PASSED IN MINUTES,

491
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:43,280
AND THEN THERE WAS
A LADY THAT CAME IN.

492
00:28:50,586 --> 00:28:52,656
SHE SAT ME DOWN IN A ROOM
BY MYSELF

493
00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:54,715
AND ASKED ME DID HE HURT ME?

494
00:28:54,724 --> 00:28:58,664
♪♪

495
00:28:58,655 --> 00:29:02,405
AND I JUST STARTED CRYING

496
00:29:02,413 --> 00:29:07,243
AND TOLD HER, "YES, HE DID."

497
00:30:06,275 --> 00:30:08,965
HIS NAME WAS FAMILIAR
TO A LOT OF PEOPLE

498
00:30:08,965 --> 00:30:12,715
IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND A LOT OF FOLKS KNEW OF HIM.

499
00:30:12,724 --> 00:30:18,314
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY MAYBE
REALIZED WHAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF.

500
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:21,520
HE WENT FROM BEING
AN AVERAGE CROOK,

501
00:30:21,517 --> 00:30:25,657
SO TO SPEAK, TO BEING ON
THE FBI'S MOST WANTED LIST

502
00:30:25,655 --> 00:30:27,405
IN, LIKE, A COUPLE HOURS' TIME.

503
00:30:27,413 --> 00:30:36,663
♪♪

504
00:30:36,655 --> 00:30:41,065
♪♪

505
00:30:41,068 --> 00:30:42,968
WHEN THEY CAUGHT HIM,
IT WAS BEFORE DARK,

506
00:30:42,965 --> 00:30:44,445
BUT IT WAS GETTING
LATE IN THE EVENING.

507
00:30:44,448 --> 00:30:47,548
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY FROM
3 TO 5, SOMEWHERE IN THERE,

508
00:30:47,551 --> 00:30:53,241
IS WHEN HE GOT CAUGHT HIDING UP
UNDER HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE.

509
00:30:53,241 --> 00:30:55,971
WE HAD A GOOD TEAM,

510
00:30:55,965 --> 00:30:58,445
TACTICAL TEAM,
THAT WENT AND GOT HIM,

511
00:30:58,448 --> 00:31:00,138
AND THAT'S THE WAY
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HANDLED.

512
00:31:00,137 --> 00:31:05,897
♪♪

513
00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:08,136
Woman: INVESTIGATORS HAVE
ALREADY MADE AN ARREST...

514
00:31:08,137 --> 00:31:10,827
20-YEAR-OLD
JERRY SCOTT HEIDLER.

515
00:31:10,827 --> 00:31:12,447
MR. HEIDLER IS FROM ALMA

516
00:31:12,448 --> 00:31:14,028
AND PUTTING THOSE THINGS
TOGETHER,

517
00:31:14,034 --> 00:31:16,904
THEY WENT TO HIS HOME,
THE HOME OF A RELATIVE,

518
00:31:16,896 --> 00:31:22,376
HIS MOTHER,
AND THAT'S WHERE HE WAS LOCATED.

519
00:31:22,379 --> 00:31:26,759
THE PRESS CONFERENCE
WAS JUST SUCH A...

520
00:31:26,758 --> 00:31:30,858
I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER A LOT
ABOUT IT, 'CAUSE YOU WAS...

521
00:31:30,862 --> 00:31:35,032
I WAS STILL IN A DAZE, ALMOST.

522
00:31:35,034 --> 00:31:38,694
I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME
JERRY HEIDLER.

523
00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:43,099
I SAW SOMETHING THAT HAD
HIS PICTURE ON IT.

524
00:31:43,103 --> 00:31:44,383
WHEN I SAW THE PICTURE,

525
00:31:44,379 --> 00:31:48,899
THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED
I KNEW HIM.

526
00:31:48,896 --> 00:31:54,136
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I SAW IT
AND THAT'S WHO IT WAS.

527
00:31:54,137 --> 00:31:56,757
Woman: POLICE SAY HE APPARENTLY
KNEW THE FAMILY,

528
00:31:56,758 --> 00:31:59,858
BUT THEY HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT HIS MOTIVE WAS FOR MURDER.

529
00:31:59,862 --> 00:32:08,522
♪♪

530
00:32:08,517 --> 00:32:11,517
JERRY WAS ALLOWED VISITATIONS

531
00:32:11,517 --> 00:32:16,277
UP UNTIL THE POINT
THAT KIM AND DANNY

532
00:32:16,275 --> 00:32:19,405
DECIDED HE WAS MAKING SOME OF
THE OTHER YOUNGER GIRLS

533
00:32:19,413 --> 00:32:23,073
UNCOMFORTABLE JUST BY STARING.

534
00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:26,028
THEY JUST FELT UNCOMFORTABLE.

535
00:32:26,034 --> 00:32:29,074
AND WITH THAT, DANNY SAID,
"YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED BACK."

536
00:32:29,068 --> 00:32:31,968
♪♪

537
00:32:31,965 --> 00:32:35,715
AND HE DID COME BACK ONE TIME.

538
00:32:35,724 --> 00:32:37,594
HEY, DANNY!

539
00:32:37,586 --> 00:32:43,096
DANNY CAME HOME,
AND HE TOLD HIM VERY PLAINLY.

540
00:32:43,103 --> 00:32:44,863
I DON'T WANT YOU
AROUND HERE ANYMORE!

541
00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:46,412
SORRY, SORRY!

542
00:32:46,413 --> 00:32:50,863
"I'VE ASKED YOU NICELY NOT
TO COME BACK TO MY HOME.

543
00:32:50,862 --> 00:32:54,972
"I'M TELLING YOU.
DON'T COME BACK TO MY HOME.

544
00:32:54,965 --> 00:32:57,335
YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME HERE."

545
00:32:57,344 --> 00:33:01,904
♪♪

546
00:33:01,896 --> 00:33:03,826
Woman: POLICE SAY AFTER
HIS KILLING SPREE,

547
00:33:03,827 --> 00:33:05,997
HE KIDNAPPED THREE
OTHER YOUNG CHILDREN,

548
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,340
ONE OF THEM A FOSTER CHILD
IN THE DANIELS' CARE.

549
00:33:09,344 --> 00:33:19,284
♪♪

550
00:33:19,275 --> 00:33:21,855
FINALLY,
WE GOT SOMEBODY TO TELL US,

551
00:33:21,862 --> 00:33:24,622
SOMEBODY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT,

552
00:33:24,620 --> 00:33:30,340
JUST TO GIVE US THAT ASSURANCE
THAT THEY WERE OKAY,

553
00:33:30,344 --> 00:33:36,034
THAT "THEY WERE ALL RIGHT,"
WAS HIS WORDS TO ME.

554
00:33:36,034 --> 00:33:39,144
"THEY MAY NOT BE OKAY,

555
00:33:39,137 --> 00:33:41,997
BUT THEY'RE ALL RIGHT."

556
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:51,480
♪♪

557
00:33:51,482 --> 00:33:59,792
♪♪

558
00:33:59,793 --> 00:34:02,143
♪♪

559
00:34:02,137 --> 00:34:04,857
Daniels: WE JUST KEPT ASKING
WHERE OUR MAMA AND DADDY WERE.

560
00:34:04,862 --> 00:34:08,212
♪♪

561
00:34:08,206 --> 00:34:12,336
THEY TOOK US TO A ROOM,
AND EVERYBODY IN OUR FAMILY,

562
00:34:12,344 --> 00:34:14,864
FAMILY MEMBERS
THAT I HADN'T SEEN IN YEARS,

563
00:34:14,862 --> 00:34:17,142
THE FOSTER FAMILY
THAT I HAD BEEN IN BEFORE,

564
00:34:17,137 --> 00:34:21,547
WHENEVER MAMA WAS NOT
DOING WELL, THEY WERE THERE.

565
00:34:21,551 --> 00:34:23,861
AND I SAID, "WELL,
WHERE'S MAMA AND DADDY?"

566
00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:28,902
AND CORY WALKED UP TO ME
AND SAID, "THEY'RE DEAD."

567
00:34:28,896 --> 00:34:33,096
AND I SAID, "STOP LYING."
I SAID, "THAT'S NOT TRUE."

568
00:34:33,103 --> 00:34:35,213
AND MY FOSTER MOTHER
CAME UP TO ME,

569
00:34:35,206 --> 00:34:38,136
AND SHE JUST GRABBED ME
AND HUGGED ME.

570
00:34:38,137 --> 00:34:43,857
♪♪

571
00:34:43,862 --> 00:34:46,242
SO I KNEW IT WAS TRUE.

572
00:34:46,241 --> 00:34:50,661
[ CRYING ]

573
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:54,925
♪♪

574
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:06,173
♪♪

575
00:35:06,172 --> 00:35:08,342
Daniels: I CRIED FOR DAYS.

576
00:35:08,344 --> 00:35:11,284
I CRIED THROUGH THE FUNERAL.

577
00:35:11,275 --> 00:35:13,205
I FELL ASLEEP THROUGH
THE FUNERAL

578
00:35:13,206 --> 00:35:14,926
BECAUSE I WAS CRYING SO MUCH.

579
00:35:14,931 --> 00:35:22,141
♪♪

580
00:35:22,137 --> 00:35:24,857
THEY WOULDN'T LET US
SEE THE BODIES.

581
00:35:24,862 --> 00:35:29,142
I JUST... I FELT LIKE
I WAS BEING LIED TO

582
00:35:29,137 --> 00:35:32,967
'CAUSE I NEVER GOT ANY CLOSURE
OF WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE.

583
00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:34,305
WERE THEY REALLY GONE?

584
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:40,140
♪♪

585
00:35:40,137 --> 00:35:43,587
AT ONE POINT, I JUST THOUGHT,

586
00:35:43,586 --> 00:35:46,546
MAYBE MY MOM COULDN'T
TAKE CARE OF US AGAIN,

587
00:35:46,551 --> 00:35:51,381
AND SHE JUST LET US GO

588
00:35:51,379 --> 00:35:53,859
AND WAS TRYING TO
GIVE US A BETTER LIFE

589
00:35:53,862 --> 00:35:59,172
WITHOUT HER BEING AROUND.

590
00:35:59,172 --> 00:36:03,692
I CRIED, AND I PITCHED A FIT,

591
00:36:03,689 --> 00:36:05,309
BUT EVERYBODY JUST KEPT
TELLING ME,

592
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:08,690
"IT WAS TOO BAD. IT WAS TOO BAD.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT.

593
00:36:08,689 --> 00:36:10,719
"YOU DON'T WANT
TO SEE THEM LIKE THAT.

594
00:36:10,724 --> 00:36:13,244
WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE
YOUR LAST MEMORY OF THEM."

595
00:36:13,241 --> 00:36:23,031
♪♪

596
00:36:23,034 --> 00:36:25,904
NEVER.

597
00:36:25,896 --> 00:36:28,066
I DO.

598
00:36:28,068 --> 00:36:32,208
I REALLY DO.

599
00:36:32,206 --> 00:36:38,166
♪♪

600
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:47,720
YES, PLEASE.

601
00:36:47,724 --> 00:36:51,834
I KNOW.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE.

602
00:36:51,827 --> 00:37:01,167
♪♪

603
00:37:01,172 --> 00:37:07,172
♪♪

604
00:37:07,172 --> 00:37:09,692
THAT'S MY DAD
AND THAT'S MY MOM.

605
00:37:09,689 --> 00:37:14,239
IT'S HARD TO TELL HER,
BUT I HAVE HER FEET.

606
00:37:14,241 --> 00:37:19,451
♪♪

607
00:37:28,482 --> 00:37:32,002
THAT DADDY HAD BEEN SHOT
IN THE STOMACH.

608
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,590
IT'S NOT.

609
00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:39,136
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MORE UP
TOWARD HIS CHEST OR SHOULDER.

610
00:37:39,137 --> 00:37:42,377
I CAN'T REALLY TELL.
I CAN'T REALLY SEE ON MAMA.

611
00:37:42,379 --> 00:37:47,519
SHE'S COVERED UP NICELY.

612
00:37:47,517 --> 00:37:50,657
IT'S REALLY GOOD RELIEF
TO ACTUALLY SEE THIS.

613
00:37:50,655 --> 00:37:59,825
♪♪

614
00:37:59,827 --> 00:38:01,857
♪♪

615
00:38:01,862 --> 00:38:05,972
I JUST MISS THEM SO MUCH.

616
00:38:05,965 --> 00:38:11,305
♪♪

617
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:16,900
I WANT TO HUG THEM,
TELL MY MOM I LOVE HER.

618
00:38:16,896 --> 00:38:25,896
♪♪

619
00:38:25,896 --> 00:38:34,966
♪♪

620
00:38:34,965 --> 00:38:43,375
♪♪

621
00:38:43,379 --> 00:38:45,999
Harlin: I'M THE ONE THAT TOOK
HIM TO DEATH ROW.

622
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,720
THAT WAS MY FINAL CONTACT
WITH HIM.

623
00:38:49,724 --> 00:38:54,934
I HAVE ALWAYS LET IT BE KNOWN IN
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

624
00:38:54,931 --> 00:38:59,661
THAT I WANT A FRONT ROW SEAT
WHEN IT HAPPENS.

625
00:38:59,655 --> 00:39:03,375
I THINK I DESERVE THAT.

626
00:39:03,379 --> 00:39:08,069
THAT'S GONNA BE
MY FINAL CLOSURE TO THIS THING.

627
00:39:08,068 --> 00:39:10,308
SOMETIMES, LOOKING AT
CHRISTMAS TREES

628
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:16,760
AT HOME DURING THE HOLIDAYS,
MY MIND GOES BACK TO 1997.

629
00:39:16,758 --> 00:39:19,718
♪♪

630
00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:22,414
IT'S SOMETHING I WON'T
EVER GET OVER.

631
00:39:22,413 --> 00:39:24,973
I HOPE I NEVER GET OVER IT,
QUITE FRANKLY,

632
00:39:24,965 --> 00:39:29,895
BECAUSE IT HAS CAUSED ME TO,
IN CERTAIN WAYS,

633
00:39:29,896 --> 00:39:32,896
RELISH CHRISTMAS THAT MUCH MORE,

634
00:39:32,896 --> 00:39:35,476
BUT IT'S ALSO
A CONSTANT REMINDER

635
00:39:35,482 --> 00:39:37,902
OF HOW SAD
A CHRISTMAS CAN BE.

636
00:39:37,896 --> 00:39:46,516
♪♪

637
00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:48,547
♪♪

638
00:39:48,551 --> 00:39:53,411
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
WHY GOD WOULD ALLOW IT.

639
00:39:53,413 --> 00:39:57,173
I WAS HATEFUL. I WAS MEAN.

640
00:39:57,172 --> 00:39:59,692
I HURT, AND I WANTED
EVERYBODY ELSE TO HURT.

641
00:39:59,689 --> 00:40:03,309
[ CHUCKLES ]

642
00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:05,340
AND THEN I HAD TO REALIZE,

643
00:40:05,344 --> 00:40:09,594
IF I STAY THAT WAY,

644
00:40:09,586 --> 00:40:11,476
I'M NO BETTER THAN HE IS.

645
00:40:11,482 --> 00:40:17,002
I'M NO BETTER THAN
JERRY SCOTT HEIDLER.

646
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,590
THAT'LL WAKE YOU UP.

647
00:40:18,586 --> 00:40:24,896
♪♪

648
00:40:24,896 --> 00:40:30,586
THERE IS A RELEASE AND A FREEDOM
THAT COMES WITH FORGIVENESS.

649
00:40:30,586 --> 00:40:35,166
I HELD ONTO ANGER AND BITTERNESS
FAR TOO LONG,

650
00:40:35,172 --> 00:40:37,902
AND IT WAS LIKE A CANCER.
IT WAS DESTROYING ME.

651
00:40:37,896 --> 00:40:43,206
IT WAS KILLING ME
ON THE INSTALLMENT PLAN,

652
00:40:43,206 --> 00:40:47,406
BUT NO MORE, NO MORE.

653
00:40:47,413 --> 00:40:56,033
♪♪

654
00:40:56,034 --> 00:41:01,594
♪♪

655
00:41:01,586 --> 00:41:04,826
I'M AT A POINT IN MY LIFE
THAT IF I COULD GO TELL HIM

656
00:41:04,827 --> 00:41:08,517
THAT I FORGIVE HIM
FOR WHAT HE DID, I WOULD.

657
00:41:08,517 --> 00:41:11,967
I CAN'T CHANGE THE PAST,
BUT I CAN MAKE MY FUTURE

658
00:41:11,965 --> 00:41:17,275
BETTER FOR MYSELF,
FOR MY FAMILY.

659
00:41:17,275 --> 00:41:19,065
IF I'M GONNA HATE HIM
FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE,

660
00:41:19,068 --> 00:41:21,478
WHAT'S THE POINT?

661
00:41:21,482 --> 00:41:24,032
I WILL ALWAYS BE
THE BETTER PERSON.

662
00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:33,004
♪♪

663
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,760
♪♪

664
00:41:36,758 --> 00:41:40,408
[ LAUGHS ]
PICK YOUR FEET UP!

665
00:41:40,413 --> 00:41:42,343
HE IS MY FUTURE.

666
00:41:42,344 --> 00:41:45,554
VADYN IS THE FUTURE FOR ME,

667
00:41:45,551 --> 00:41:49,521
KNOWING THAT I GET
TO SEE HIM GROW UP.

668
00:41:49,517 --> 00:41:51,477
I MISSED THAT WITH MY MOM.

669
00:41:51,482 --> 00:41:56,972
♪♪

670
00:41:56,965 --> 00:41:59,615
I DON'T WANT HIM TO HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

671
00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:03,340
♪♪

672
00:42:03,344 --> 00:42:08,664
I PRAY EVERY DAY THAT HE'LL
NEVER HAVE THE LIFE THAT I HAD.

673
00:42:08,655 --> 00:42:10,515
I PRAY THAT HE NEVER HAS TO GO
THROUGH ANYTHING

674
00:42:10,517 --> 00:42:13,617
THAT I EVER WENT THROUGH
AS A CHILD.

675
00:42:13,620 --> 00:42:16,310
I PRAY THAT HE HAS THE GOOD DAYS
THAT I HAD.

676
00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:18,380
ARE YOU JUST GONNA
KEEP RUNNING?

677
00:42:18,379 --> 00:42:24,169
I WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR HIM.

678
00:42:24,172 --> 00:42:27,172
OTHER THAN JUST SURVIVING,

679
00:42:27,172 --> 00:42:30,032
THAT IS WHAT I LIVE
FOR EVERY DAY.

680
00:42:30,034 --> 00:42:31,314
♪♪