1 00:00:00,862 --> 00:00:05,552 ♪♪ 2 00:00:05,551 --> 00:00:09,691 Lafferty: MY MOST VIVID MEMORY THAT I DO HAVE. 3 00:00:09,689 --> 00:00:13,069 WAS THE DAY THAT IT HAPPENED. 4 00:00:13,068 --> 00:00:17,338 I REMEMBER HIM HOLDING ME AND LOOKING INTO MY EYES, 5 00:00:17,344 --> 00:00:21,174 KNOWING WHAT WAS FIXING TO HAPPEN TO HIM, 6 00:00:21,172 --> 00:00:23,002 AND THERE NOT REALLY BEING ANYTHING 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,720 THAT HE COULD DO ABOUT IT. 8 00:00:25,724 --> 00:00:28,104 HIS EXPRESSION SAID EVERYTHING. 9 00:00:28,103 --> 00:00:30,593 HIS EYES SAID THAT HE LOVED ME 10 00:00:30,586 --> 00:00:33,996 AND THAT HE WASN'T EVER GONNA LEAVE ME. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,170 AFTER THAT, I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER MUCH OF ANYTHING. 12 00:00:38,172 --> 00:00:43,382 ♪♪ 13 00:00:43,379 --> 00:00:47,169 Thomas: MY DADDY WAS SITTING THERE AT MY GRANDMOTHER'S TABLE, 14 00:00:47,172 --> 00:00:52,932 AND HE LOOKED AT ME, AND HE SAID, "MARTY, IS IT TRUE?" 15 00:00:52,931 --> 00:00:58,001 [ Voice breaking ] AND I JUST... I JUST HAVE A WEAK SPOT FOR MY DADDY BAD, 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,410 AND I... TOLD HIM THE TRUTH. 17 00:01:03,413 --> 00:01:06,073 HE JUST PUT HIS HEAD DOWN ON THE TABLE LIKE THAT. 18 00:01:06,068 --> 00:01:09,338 HE JUST SAID, "THEY TOOK MY BOY. THEY TOOK MY BOY." 19 00:01:09,344 --> 00:01:16,004 ♪♪ 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,690 Owen: THIS WAS A BIG CASE. 21 00:01:19,689 --> 00:01:22,479 ANYTHING THAT COULD HAPPEN IN NEW YORK, CHICAGO, 22 00:01:22,482 --> 00:01:25,032 OR LOS ANGELES CAN AND WILL HAPPEN 23 00:01:25,034 --> 00:01:27,764 IN SMALL TOWN, MISSISSIPPI. 24 00:01:27,758 --> 00:01:30,788 IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN AS OFTEN. 25 00:01:30,793 --> 00:01:34,003 IT WASN'T UNTIL LATER THAT I REALIZED HE HAD A GUN, 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,590 AND HE COULD HAVE SHOT ME THAT NIGHT. 27 00:01:36,586 --> 00:01:40,336 WAS HE GIVING ME THAT PISTOL, OR WAS HE GONNA SHOOT ME? 28 00:01:40,344 --> 00:01:42,314 I DON'T KNOW. 29 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:47,520 ♪♪ 30 00:01:47,517 --> 00:01:52,787 ♪♪ 31 00:01:52,793 --> 00:01:55,793 Captions by VITAC... www.vitac.com 32 00:01:55,793 --> 00:01:58,793 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 33 00:02:02,344 --> 00:02:10,624 ♪♪ 34 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:18,480 ♪♪ 35 00:02:18,482 --> 00:02:22,522 YOU KNOW HOW A HORROR MOVIE SHOWS THESE REALLY BAD SCENES 36 00:02:22,517 --> 00:02:27,097 AND JUST KIND OF CUTS AND PASTES AND CUTS AND PASTES. 37 00:02:27,103 --> 00:02:30,243 IT'S... LIKE THAT IN MY MIND. 38 00:02:30,241 --> 00:02:36,411 ♪♪ 39 00:02:36,413 --> 00:02:40,833 PROPANE TANK... 40 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:45,207 DOOR TO A TRAILER... 41 00:02:45,206 --> 00:02:49,066 A TRUCK... 42 00:02:49,068 --> 00:02:51,998 A BANG... 43 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,030 THE SMELL OF GUNPOWDER... 44 00:02:55,034 --> 00:03:01,834 AND THE WARMTH OF FRESH BLOOD BEING ON YOU. 45 00:03:01,827 --> 00:03:06,757 JUST BITS AND PIECES LIKE THAT IS ALL I CAN REMEMBER. 46 00:03:06,758 --> 00:03:09,898 ALMOST LIKE A LOCK BOX IN MY SUBCONSCIOUS 47 00:03:09,896 --> 00:03:14,476 THAT ONLY OPENS EVER SO OFTEN TO LET A LITTLE BIT OUT 48 00:03:14,482 --> 00:03:18,312 IS THE BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT. 49 00:03:18,310 --> 00:03:20,280 BEING A KID, HAVING THOSE KIND OF MEMORIES 50 00:03:20,275 --> 00:03:23,615 IS VERY CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW, 51 00:03:23,620 --> 00:03:26,450 REALLY, WHAT YOU WERE A PART OF. 52 00:03:26,448 --> 00:03:36,068 ♪♪ 53 00:03:36,068 --> 00:03:38,758 IN 1986, I LIVED WITH MY DAD. 54 00:03:38,758 --> 00:03:40,338 I WAS 13. 55 00:03:40,344 --> 00:03:49,174 ♪♪ 56 00:03:49,172 --> 00:03:52,102 B.B. WAS MY BEST FRIEND AT THE TIME. 57 00:03:52,103 --> 00:03:54,313 SHE HAD SPENT THE NIGHT WITH ME THE NIGHT BEFORE 58 00:03:54,310 --> 00:03:55,900 BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA GET UP 59 00:03:55,896 --> 00:03:59,026 AND GO TO THE GULLIES THE NEXT MORNING. 60 00:03:59,034 --> 00:04:00,554 WE LIKED TO GO TO THE GULLIES JUST TO PLAY, 61 00:04:00,551 --> 00:04:04,901 TO SLIDE, TO BUILD TUNNELS, WHATEVER. 62 00:04:04,896 --> 00:04:09,276 ELLIS WAS MY BROTHER WHO'D JUST RIDE THROUGH. 63 00:04:09,275 --> 00:04:12,515 THE GULLIES ARE BEHIND ELLIS'S HOUSE. 64 00:04:12,517 --> 00:04:14,757 WE WERE A PRETTY GOOD AGE GAP FROM EACH OTHER... 65 00:04:14,758 --> 00:04:16,588 ALMOST EIGHT YEARS. 66 00:04:16,586 --> 00:04:20,586 SO, HE WAS GROWN WHEN I WAS YOUNG. 67 00:04:20,586 --> 00:04:22,026 HE WAS REAL MISCHIEVOUS 68 00:04:22,034 --> 00:04:25,864 AND ALWAYS WAS PRACTICALLY JOKING ON US. 69 00:04:25,862 --> 00:04:28,482 ♪♪ 70 00:04:28,482 --> 00:04:30,592 I WAS DRIVING BECAUSE I LEARNED HOW TO DRIVE 71 00:04:30,586 --> 00:04:32,926 AT A VERY YOUNG AGE. 72 00:04:32,931 --> 00:04:34,971 FELT NORMAL THEN. 73 00:04:34,965 --> 00:04:38,335 I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I GOT UP TO HIS HOUSE. 74 00:04:38,344 --> 00:04:41,484 ABOUT HALF-WAY UP THERE, WE WERE RIDING, 75 00:04:41,482 --> 00:04:43,482 AND WE HEARD GUNSHOTS. 76 00:04:43,482 --> 00:04:44,862 [ GUNSHOTS ] 77 00:04:44,862 --> 00:04:48,212 I TOOK NOTE THAT I HEARD GUNSHOTS, 78 00:04:48,206 --> 00:04:51,516 BUT IT WASN'T UNCOMMON TO HEAR GUNSHOT. 79 00:04:51,517 --> 00:04:53,717 IT WAS TURKEY SEASON. 80 00:04:53,724 --> 00:05:00,624 ♪♪ 81 00:05:00,620 --> 00:05:05,690 WHEN WE PULLED UP IN THE CAR, I COULD SEE HIM IN THE DISTANCE. 82 00:05:05,689 --> 00:05:09,309 I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS, BUT I WASN'T AFRAID. 83 00:05:09,310 --> 00:05:11,860 I KNEW HE HAD A GUN IN HIS HAND. I COULD SEE IT. 84 00:05:11,862 --> 00:05:17,142 THAT JUST WASN'T THAT UNUSUAL IN BEAVER DAM, MISSISSIPPI. 85 00:05:17,137 --> 00:05:18,657 WHEN HE WALKED OVER TO THE CAR, 86 00:05:18,655 --> 00:05:22,755 HE HAD THE GUN POINTED STRAIGHT AT ME. 87 00:05:22,758 --> 00:05:26,408 HE WAS JUST SCARY LOOKING. 88 00:05:26,413 --> 00:05:30,033 HE SAID EXACTLY, "DO WHAT I SAY, AND YOU'LL LIVE." 89 00:05:30,034 --> 00:05:31,454 I KNEW IT WAS SERIOUS, 90 00:05:31,448 --> 00:05:33,658 AND I KNEW WE WERE IN REAL TROUBLE. 91 00:05:33,655 --> 00:05:42,925 ♪♪ 92 00:05:42,931 --> 00:05:44,341 WHEN I WALKED INTO THE HOUSE, 93 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:47,454 THE FIRST THING I SAW WAS BRANDON. 94 00:05:47,448 --> 00:05:53,758 ♪♪ 95 00:05:53,758 --> 00:05:55,898 I MEAN, HE WAS JUST 2 YEARS OLD. 96 00:05:55,896 --> 00:05:59,896 HE COULDN'T EVEN TALK, AND HE WAS JUST THERE. 97 00:05:59,896 --> 00:06:02,236 HE WAS JUST WALKING AROUND, LIKE, LOST. 98 00:06:02,241 --> 00:06:05,001 LIKE HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, BUT HE WASN'T CRYING 99 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,550 OR SCREAMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 100 00:06:07,551 --> 00:06:11,281 BUT I REMEMBER SEEING BLOOD ON HIM. 101 00:06:11,275 --> 00:06:12,965 SO, I THOUGHT THAT SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED, 102 00:06:12,965 --> 00:06:14,475 BUT I KNEW IT WASN'T BRANDON'S BLOOD. 103 00:06:14,482 --> 00:06:16,172 I KNEW HE WAS OKAY. 104 00:06:16,172 --> 00:06:19,342 ♪♪ 105 00:06:19,344 --> 00:06:22,214 HEY! YOU! 106 00:06:22,206 --> 00:06:23,756 COME ON. SIT DOWN. 107 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:27,898 HE TIED ME UP FIRST, AND THEN HE TIED B.B. UP. 108 00:06:27,896 --> 00:06:30,686 - PLEASE, DON'T. - SHH! SHUT UP. 109 00:06:30,689 --> 00:06:32,139 Thomas: I COULD SEE FEAR IN B.B.'S EYES. 110 00:06:32,137 --> 00:06:33,687 SHE WAS SCARED. I WAS SCARED. 111 00:06:33,689 --> 00:06:35,719 WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? 112 00:06:35,724 --> 00:06:40,214 WHILE HE'S TYING US UP, I COULD SEE THERE WAS ANOTHER MAN, 113 00:06:40,206 --> 00:06:43,716 A BLACK MAN, AND HE WAS COMING OUT OF THE BACK BEDROOM 114 00:06:43,724 --> 00:06:47,314 WHERE ELLIS KEPT A LOT OF HIS GUNS. 115 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:49,240 AT THAT POINT, ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT 116 00:06:49,241 --> 00:06:52,451 WAS GETTING OUT OF THERE. 117 00:06:52,448 --> 00:06:55,518 THEN THE WHITE GUY, HE THREATENED TO RAPE US. 118 00:06:55,517 --> 00:07:01,067 ♪♪ 119 00:07:01,068 --> 00:07:03,238 HE SAID, "ANY OF YOU GIRLS GOT ANY GOOD [BLEEP]?" 120 00:07:03,241 --> 00:07:05,171 THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. 121 00:07:05,172 --> 00:07:09,762 ♪♪ 122 00:07:09,758 --> 00:07:12,308 THAT WAS THE SCARIEST PART FOR ME. 123 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,310 I'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT. 124 00:07:20,655 --> 00:07:23,135 DAMN. I DON'T THINK I'D DO THIS. 125 00:07:23,137 --> 00:07:28,337 ♪♪ 126 00:07:28,344 --> 00:07:31,554 I THOUGHT WE WERE IN REAL BIG TROUBLE AT THAT POINT. 127 00:07:31,551 --> 00:07:39,791 ♪♪ 128 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:45,143 I REMEMBER JUST SAYING, "NO. NO," YOU KNOW? 129 00:07:45,137 --> 00:07:47,757 AND THAT'S WHEN THE BLACK GUY STUCK HIS HEAD OUT 130 00:07:47,758 --> 00:07:49,138 AND SAID, "WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS. 131 00:07:49,137 --> 00:07:52,237 WE GOT TO GO." 132 00:07:52,241 --> 00:07:56,281 AND THEN RIGHT WHEN THEY GOT READY TO LEAVE, 133 00:07:56,275 --> 00:07:57,615 HE LEANED INTO ME, AND HE SAID, 134 00:07:57,620 --> 00:08:00,620 "TELL THE POLICE IT WAS TWO BLACK GUYS." 135 00:08:00,620 --> 00:08:02,450 HE SAID, "WE WON'T GO TO JAIL. 136 00:08:02,448 --> 00:08:07,098 WE WILL COME BACK, AND WE WILL KILL Y'ALL." 137 00:08:07,103 --> 00:08:09,553 AND AT THAT MOMENT, I BELIEVED HIM. 138 00:08:09,551 --> 00:08:15,451 ♪♪ 139 00:08:15,448 --> 00:08:18,658 AS SOON AS THEY LEFT, AND WE HEARD THAT TRUNK CRANK UP, 140 00:08:18,655 --> 00:08:23,995 IT WAS JUST LIKE SURVIVAL MODE TOOK OVER. 141 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 IT WAS OLD HAY STRING, AND YOU COULD JUST USE 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,240 YOUR FINGERNAILS AND POP EACH LITTLE CORD. 143 00:08:29,241 --> 00:08:32,311 WE LOOKED OUT EACH SIDE OF THE MOBILE HOME 144 00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:36,100 TO SEE IF ANYBODY WAS THERE, GRABBED BRANDON, 145 00:08:36,103 --> 00:08:37,903 AND WE TOOK OFF. 146 00:08:37,896 --> 00:08:40,446 ♪♪ 147 00:08:40,448 --> 00:08:43,928 IT WAS JUST LIKE A BLUR TO ME. 148 00:08:43,931 --> 00:08:45,591 AND I HAD A FRIEND THAT LIVED ON THAT ROAD 149 00:08:45,586 --> 00:08:48,096 THAT I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH. 150 00:08:48,103 --> 00:08:50,453 ALL I REMEMBER DOING IS HANDING THE BABY OFF 151 00:08:50,448 --> 00:08:54,788 AND RUNNING IN THEIR HOUSE IN SOMEBODY'S CLOSET. 152 00:08:54,793 --> 00:08:57,143 THEY MUST HAVE THOUGHT, "WHAT IN THE WORLD?" 153 00:08:57,137 --> 00:08:58,787 BUT I THINK WE'RE LETTING THEM KNOW 154 00:08:58,793 --> 00:09:02,283 THAT SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAS HAPPENED. 155 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:05,305 THAT'S WHEN WE CALLED THE POLICE. 156 00:09:05,310 --> 00:09:07,860 PLEASE HELP. 157 00:09:07,862 --> 00:09:09,552 WE'RE STILL IN AGREEMENT 158 00:09:09,551 --> 00:09:12,171 THAT WE'RE GONNA SAY IT'S TWO BLACK GUYS. 159 00:09:12,172 --> 00:09:14,212 IF WE DIDN'T, THEY WERE GONNA HUNT US DOWN, 160 00:09:14,206 --> 00:09:16,026 AND THEY WERE GONNA KILL US. 161 00:09:16,034 --> 00:09:18,794 AND ME AND B.B. BOTH BELIEVED IT. 162 00:09:18,793 --> 00:09:23,143 ♪♪ 163 00:09:23,137 --> 00:09:24,687 Owen: I HAD GRADUATED. 164 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:27,449 FROM MISSISSIPPI LAW-ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TRAINING ACADEMY 165 00:09:27,448 --> 00:09:28,788 ON THAT FRIDAY. 166 00:09:28,793 --> 00:09:32,863 I CAME HOME FROM JACKSON. 167 00:09:32,862 --> 00:09:37,592 THERE WAS A MESSAGE ON MY ANSWERING MACHINE. 168 00:09:37,586 --> 00:09:39,856 [ BEEP ]Woman: YOU HAVE ONE NEW MESSAGE. 169 00:09:39,862 --> 00:09:41,722 MESSAGE ONE. 170 00:09:41,724 --> 00:09:43,694 [ BEEP ] 171 00:09:43,689 --> 00:09:48,099 WE'RE ONLY A RURAL DEPARTMENT WITH FOUR FULL-TIME OFFICERS. 172 00:09:48,103 --> 00:09:52,033 IT WAS QUITE EVIDENT THAT THEY NEEDED ME IMMEDIATELY. 173 00:09:52,034 --> 00:09:53,934 ALL YOU'VE GOT IS THE TRAINING. 174 00:09:53,931 --> 00:09:56,141 YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, 175 00:09:56,137 --> 00:09:58,477 BUT WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE AND START DOING IT, 176 00:09:58,482 --> 00:10:00,282 THAT'S WHEN YOU REALLY LEARN. 177 00:10:00,275 --> 00:10:03,445 YOUR MIND GOES IN A THOUSAND DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. 178 00:10:03,448 --> 00:10:05,968 WHAT AM I GONNA COME UP ON? 179 00:10:05,965 --> 00:10:08,305 IT WAS KIND OF A BAPTISM UNDER FIRE, 180 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:11,070 'CAUSE THERE IT WAS, A MAJOR CRIME, 181 00:10:11,068 --> 00:10:14,758 AND YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. 182 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:24,070 ♪♪ 183 00:10:24,068 --> 00:10:26,408 Lafferty: THIS IS ALAN. 184 00:10:26,413 --> 00:10:29,763 THIS IS A MAN WHO STEPPED IN A SET OF SHOES 185 00:10:29,758 --> 00:10:32,828 HE DIDN'T HAVE TO. 186 00:10:32,827 --> 00:10:36,587 FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, HE WAS THE ONLY ONE I KNEW AS "DAD." 187 00:10:36,586 --> 00:10:44,656 ♪♪ 188 00:10:44,655 --> 00:10:47,925 AT A VERY EARLY AGE, I KNEW THAT THERE WAS MORE 189 00:10:47,931 --> 00:10:51,761 TO THE STORY, THOUGH, OF WHO HE WAS. 190 00:10:51,758 --> 00:10:54,718 IF YOU LOOK AT BABY PICTURES OF ME, AND YOU LOOK AT HIM, 191 00:10:54,724 --> 00:10:58,344 THERE WAS REALLY NO RESEMBLANCE WHATSOEVER. 192 00:10:58,344 --> 00:11:03,384 EVEN AS A KID, SOMETIMES YOU KIND OF PICK UP ON THAT. 193 00:11:03,379 --> 00:11:06,069 IT JUST ADDS TO THE CONFUSION OF EVERYTHING ELSE 194 00:11:06,068 --> 00:11:07,968 THAT'S GOING ON IN MY LIFE. 195 00:11:07,965 --> 00:11:14,335 ♪♪ 196 00:11:14,344 --> 00:11:20,724 ♪♪ 197 00:11:20,724 --> 00:11:23,034 A LOT OF MY NIGHTMARES AS A CHILD, 198 00:11:23,034 --> 00:11:26,284 I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER A LOT OF THEM OTHER THAN JUST 199 00:11:26,275 --> 00:11:29,655 SOMEONE'S COMING TO GET ME FOR SOME REASON. 200 00:11:29,655 --> 00:11:37,095 ♪♪ 201 00:11:37,103 --> 00:11:44,553 ♪♪ 202 00:11:44,551 --> 00:11:49,661 I WOULD LITERALLY GO CRAWL UNDER MY BED AND JUST HIDE. 203 00:11:49,655 --> 00:11:54,095 I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME. 204 00:11:54,103 --> 00:11:57,453 THE SMELL OF GUNPOWDER USED TO MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH 205 00:11:57,448 --> 00:11:59,898 TO WHERE, SOMETIMES, I WOULD ACTUALLY THROW UP 206 00:11:59,896 --> 00:12:01,656 FROM THE SMELL OF IT. 207 00:12:01,655 --> 00:12:04,785 I JUST KNEW THAT I HAD THIS FEAR. 208 00:12:04,793 --> 00:12:07,003 I KNEW SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED. 209 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,520 IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T TALKED ABOUT. 210 00:12:09,517 --> 00:12:16,167 ♪♪ 211 00:12:16,172 --> 00:12:22,792 ♪♪ 212 00:12:22,793 --> 00:12:28,693 WHAT DO THESE TWO GUYS LOOK LIKE? 213 00:12:28,689 --> 00:12:30,279 Thomas: WE TOLD THEM IT WAS TWO BLACK GUYS. 214 00:12:30,275 --> 00:12:31,445 BECAUSE WE REALLY BELIEVED 215 00:12:31,448 --> 00:12:34,518 THAT THEY WERE GONNA COME BACK AND KILL US. 216 00:12:34,517 --> 00:12:35,897 WE WERE REAL SCARED, 217 00:12:35,896 --> 00:12:39,966 AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE TOLD THE POLICE. 218 00:12:39,965 --> 00:12:43,585 AT THAT POINT, I WASN'T SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON. 219 00:12:43,586 --> 00:12:45,616 BRANDON HAD BLOOD ON HIS CLOTHES, 220 00:12:45,620 --> 00:12:48,340 AND SO I KNEW SOMETHING SERIOUS HAD HAPPENED, 221 00:12:48,344 --> 00:12:51,104 BUT I JUST WOULDN'T LET MY MIND GO THERE. 222 00:12:51,103 --> 00:12:58,833 ♪♪ 223 00:12:58,827 --> 00:13:01,067 [ SIREN WAILING ] 224 00:13:01,068 --> 00:13:04,618 ♪♪ 225 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:07,900 Owen: THE HOUSE ITSELF WAS A TYPICAL MOBILE HOME. 226 00:13:07,896 --> 00:13:09,896 ♪♪ 227 00:13:09,896 --> 00:13:14,966 THE INSIDE, IT'S NOT RANSACKED. 228 00:13:14,965 --> 00:13:18,305 WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT ALL'S MISSING. 229 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:21,340 THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF BLOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, 230 00:13:21,344 --> 00:13:26,214 ALL THE ACTUAL VIOLENCE AND THE MURDERS TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE. 231 00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:29,476 ♪♪ 232 00:13:29,482 --> 00:13:31,072 WHEN I HEAR IT'S A DOUBLE HOMICIDE, 233 00:13:31,068 --> 00:13:33,278 I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO THINK. 234 00:13:33,275 --> 00:13:35,755 THEY WERE BOTH MALES, THEY HAD BEEN SHOT, 235 00:13:35,758 --> 00:13:38,658 AND THEIR BODIES HAD BEEN DUMPED IN A DITCH. 236 00:13:38,655 --> 00:13:41,335 ♪♪ 237 00:13:41,344 --> 00:13:43,904 FROM THE TWO BLOOD SPOTS HERE YOU SEE DRAG MARKS 238 00:13:43,896 --> 00:13:48,236 OFF TO THE DIRT, GOING OFF TO THE SIDE. 239 00:13:48,241 --> 00:13:49,971 IT'S A TERRIBLE SCENE. 240 00:13:49,965 --> 00:13:53,895 ♪♪ 241 00:13:53,896 --> 00:13:55,826 THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE GOT IN THERE, 242 00:13:55,827 --> 00:13:57,827 AND THEY LOOKED AT THE BODIES, PHOTOGRAPHED THEM, 243 00:13:57,827 --> 00:13:59,717 AND THEN DID THEIR THING. 244 00:13:59,724 --> 00:14:02,004 THEN WE PUT THEM IN BODY BAGS. 245 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:09,340 ♪♪ 246 00:14:09,344 --> 00:14:12,834 WHY THEY WERE KILLED, I DON'T KNOW. 247 00:14:12,827 --> 00:14:14,377 WAS IT A ROBBERY? 248 00:14:14,379 --> 00:14:16,069 WAS IT A BURGLARY? 249 00:14:16,068 --> 00:14:17,898 AND WHO DID IT? 250 00:14:17,896 --> 00:14:19,686 THAT WAS THE BIG QUESTION. 251 00:14:19,689 --> 00:14:27,789 ♪♪ 252 00:14:27,793 --> 00:14:29,553 WHEN I FOUND OUT ELLIS WAS DEAD, 253 00:14:29,551 --> 00:14:32,591 IT WASN'T ABOUT ME ANYMORE, IT WAS ABOUT HIM. 254 00:14:32,586 --> 00:14:36,476 ♪♪ 255 00:14:36,482 --> 00:14:37,762 IT WAS JUST IMMEDIATE. 256 00:14:37,758 --> 00:14:39,968 I KNEW THAT I WAS GONNA TELL THE TRUTH 257 00:14:39,965 --> 00:14:41,065 BECAUSE IT WAS MY FAMILY THAT WAS DEAD. 258 00:14:41,068 --> 00:14:43,068 IT WAS MY BROTHER THAT WAS DEAD, 259 00:14:43,068 --> 00:14:45,408 AND IT WAS MY FIRST COUSIN THAT WAS DEAD, 260 00:14:45,413 --> 00:14:47,413 AND I KNEW THEY'D NEVER CATCH THEM IF WE KEPT STUCK 261 00:14:47,413 --> 00:14:51,143 TO THAT STORY THAT IT WAS TWO BLACK GUYS. 262 00:14:51,137 --> 00:14:53,377 I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME MUG SHOTS. 263 00:14:53,379 --> 00:14:56,339 ♪♪ 264 00:14:56,344 --> 00:14:59,034 THEN HE SHOWS ME THESE SIX PICTURES. 265 00:14:59,034 --> 00:15:03,524 HE HAD LIKE SIX BLACK GUYS, SIX WHITE GUYS, 266 00:15:03,517 --> 00:15:05,407 AND I JUST PICKED THEM OUT. 267 00:15:05,413 --> 00:15:07,903 ♪♪ 268 00:15:07,896 --> 00:15:09,546 I COULD PICK THEM OUT NOW. 269 00:15:09,551 --> 00:15:12,861 I MEAN, IT'S SEARED IN YOUR MIND. 270 00:15:12,862 --> 00:15:15,592 I KNEW WHO IT WAS. THAT MEANT THEY KNEW WHO IT WAS. 271 00:15:15,586 --> 00:15:17,656 SO, I WAS GLAD. 272 00:15:17,655 --> 00:15:24,925 ♪♪ 273 00:15:24,931 --> 00:15:32,211 ♪♪ 274 00:15:32,206 --> 00:15:34,586 ROBERT SAMUEL MINNICK. 275 00:15:34,586 --> 00:15:38,376 SHAVED HEAD AND WILD-LOOKING BIG EYES. 276 00:15:38,379 --> 00:15:43,139 WOULD THAT PERSON PUT FEAR IN TWO 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS. 277 00:15:43,137 --> 00:15:47,207 HE SAYS, "IF YOU DON'T TELL THEM THAT IT WAS TWO BLACK MEN, 278 00:15:47,206 --> 00:15:48,896 I'll COME BACK AND KILL YOU." 279 00:15:48,896 --> 00:15:54,686 YES, THAT WOULD SCARE SOMEBODY. 280 00:15:54,689 --> 00:15:56,659 JAMES WESLEY DYESS. 281 00:15:56,655 --> 00:15:58,205 WE KNEW HIM AS A BURGLAR. 282 00:15:58,206 --> 00:16:01,136 HE HAD BEEN TO PRISON. HE ESCAPED. 283 00:16:01,137 --> 00:16:03,517 I MET HIM. I KNEW HIM. 284 00:16:03,517 --> 00:16:05,477 I KNOW HE'S A VIOLENT PERSON. 285 00:16:05,482 --> 00:16:13,692 ♪♪ 286 00:16:13,689 --> 00:16:19,859 I HAD, JUST IN FEBRUARY OF THAT YEAR, PUT DYESS IN JAIL. 287 00:16:19,862 --> 00:16:23,832 DYESS HAD BROKEN INTO A CAMP HOUSE 288 00:16:23,827 --> 00:16:26,827 AND STOLE SOME CAMOUFLAGE CLOTHES, SOME MONEY, 289 00:16:26,827 --> 00:16:30,167 SOME JEWELRY, AND A PISTOL. 290 00:16:30,172 --> 00:16:32,282 AND WHEN I'M LEAVING TOWN, 291 00:16:32,275 --> 00:16:36,205 I NOTICE A BLACK MALE IN CAMOUFLAGE CLOTHES. 292 00:16:36,206 --> 00:16:37,926 I TURNED A PATROL CAR TOWARD HIM, 293 00:16:37,931 --> 00:16:41,481 TURNED THE HEADLIGHTS ON HIGH BEAM. 294 00:16:41,482 --> 00:16:43,102 DON'T MOVE! 295 00:16:43,103 --> 00:16:46,003 ♪♪ 296 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,860 I STEP OUT OF THE PATROL CAR WITH MY PISTOL DRAWN. 297 00:16:49,862 --> 00:16:51,972 I'M YOUNG. I'M STILL LEARNING. 298 00:16:51,965 --> 00:16:54,205 HOLSTER BACK UP AND WALK OVER TO HIM. 299 00:16:54,206 --> 00:16:58,826 ♪♪ 300 00:16:58,827 --> 00:17:00,167 HE SAYS, "HERE," AND I LOOK DOWN, 301 00:17:00,172 --> 00:17:03,592 AND HE'S GOT A PISTOL POINTED IN MY STOMACH. 302 00:17:03,586 --> 00:17:09,446 ♪♪ 303 00:17:09,448 --> 00:17:12,308 WHAT I DID NOT REALIZE WAS THE AUXILIARY DEPUTY 304 00:17:12,310 --> 00:17:14,070 THAT WAS RIDING WITH ME THAT NIGHT, 305 00:17:14,068 --> 00:17:16,408 HE GOT OUT ON THE PASSENGER'S SIDE 306 00:17:16,413 --> 00:17:20,483 WITH A SHOTGUN POINTED AT HIM. 307 00:17:20,482 --> 00:17:23,522 DYESS SAW THE SHOTGUN, I IMMEDIATELY GRABBED THE PISTOL 308 00:17:23,517 --> 00:17:25,407 AND PUT IT IN MY WAIST BAND. 309 00:17:25,413 --> 00:17:33,763 ♪♪ 310 00:17:33,758 --> 00:17:36,898 IT'S KIND OF HARD TO HAVE FEAR IN REVERSE, 311 00:17:36,896 --> 00:17:39,896 BUT AFTER WE FIND OUT THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY MINNICK 312 00:17:39,896 --> 00:17:41,966 AND DYESS THAT KILLED THESE PEOPLE, 313 00:17:41,965 --> 00:17:45,755 IT MADE ME THAT MUCH MORE THANKFUL THAT I HAD 314 00:17:45,758 --> 00:17:47,408 AN AUXILIARY RIDING WITH ME 315 00:17:47,413 --> 00:17:50,483 AND THAT THE GOOD LORD WAS WATCHING AFTER ME 316 00:17:50,482 --> 00:17:52,282 BECAUSE I HONESTLY BELIEVE HE VERY WELL 317 00:17:52,275 --> 00:17:54,755 WOULD HAVE SHOT ME THAT NIGHT. 318 00:17:54,758 --> 00:18:03,238 ♪♪ 319 00:18:03,241 --> 00:18:11,661 ♪♪ 320 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:16,895 MY DADDY WAS SITTING THERE AT MY GRANDMOTHER'S TABLE 321 00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:19,446 AND HE LOOKED AT ME, HE GOES, "MARTY, IS IT TRUE? 322 00:18:19,448 --> 00:18:22,968 IS ELLIS DEAD?" 323 00:18:22,965 --> 00:18:27,755 AND I JUST HAVE A WEAK SPOT FOR MY DADDY BAD. 324 00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:33,098 [ Voice breaking ] AND I... TOLD HIM IT WAS TRUE. 325 00:18:33,103 --> 00:18:34,833 AND HE JUST PUT HIS HEAD DOWN ON THE TABLE LIKE THAT, 326 00:18:34,827 --> 00:18:41,407 AND HE JUST SAID, "THEY TOOK MY BOY. THEY TOOK MY BOY." 327 00:18:41,413 --> 00:18:45,143 IT WAS JUST DIFFICULT. 328 00:18:45,137 --> 00:18:48,407 IT WAS A LOT TO DEAL WITH. 329 00:18:48,413 --> 00:18:49,833 I'M SORRY. 330 00:18:49,827 --> 00:18:57,477 ♪♪ 331 00:18:57,482 --> 00:18:59,242 Owen: THE COMMUNITY WAS TERRIFIED. 332 00:18:59,241 --> 00:19:02,761 KNOWING THAT THESE TWO PEOPLE WERE ON THE RUN. 333 00:19:02,758 --> 00:19:04,898 THEY ESCAPED FROM THE CLARKE COUNTY JAIL. 334 00:19:04,896 --> 00:19:07,026 ALL EYES WERE LOOKING AT US. 335 00:19:07,034 --> 00:19:09,384 [ TELEPHONE RINGS ] 336 00:19:09,379 --> 00:19:11,409 THE INFORMATION THAT WAS COMING AT YOU, 337 00:19:11,413 --> 00:19:12,933 YOU'RE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE, 338 00:19:12,931 --> 00:19:14,791 AND IT'S NOT JUST A DRIPPING FIRE HOSE, 339 00:19:14,793 --> 00:19:16,483 IT'S RUNNING WIDE OPEN. 340 00:19:16,482 --> 00:19:18,552 ♪♪ 341 00:19:18,551 --> 00:19:19,761 WHERE ARE THEY NOW? 342 00:19:19,758 --> 00:19:22,028 WHERE DID THEY GO? 343 00:19:22,034 --> 00:19:23,414 AND THE TRAIL WENT COLD. 344 00:19:23,413 --> 00:19:26,593 WE HAD NO IDEA WHERE MINNICK AND DYESS WENT. 345 00:19:31,758 --> 00:19:40,028 ♪♪ 346 00:19:40,034 --> 00:19:41,724 Thomas: I KNEW THEY WERE STILL OUT THERE, 347 00:19:41,724 --> 00:19:43,074 AND I KNEW THERE WAS STILL THE POSSIBILITY 348 00:19:43,068 --> 00:19:44,588 THAT THEY COULD COME BACK. 349 00:19:44,586 --> 00:19:48,166 IT JUST MADE ME SCARED ALL THE TIME... 24/7 I WAS SCARED. 350 00:19:48,172 --> 00:19:50,212 I WAS JUST SCARED OF EVERYTHING. 351 00:19:50,206 --> 00:20:00,136 ♪♪ 352 00:20:00,137 --> 00:20:10,137 ♪♪ 353 00:20:10,137 --> 00:20:12,897 I COULDN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE EVERY NOISE I HEARD, 354 00:20:12,896 --> 00:20:15,856 I THOUGHT IT WAS THEM COMING BACK. 355 00:20:15,862 --> 00:20:18,522 I FELT LIKE THEY KNEW WHERE I LIVED, 356 00:20:18,517 --> 00:20:20,967 AND SO I WOULD GO OFF TO MY FRIENDS' HOUSES 357 00:20:20,965 --> 00:20:22,895 AND SPEND THE NIGHT 'CAUSE I KNEW 358 00:20:22,896 --> 00:20:26,446 THEY WOULDN'T KNOW I WAS THERE. 359 00:20:26,448 --> 00:20:28,788 AND SO, THAT'S WHAT I DID FOR MONTHS. 360 00:20:28,793 --> 00:20:35,593 ♪♪ 361 00:20:35,586 --> 00:20:41,926 ♪♪ 362 00:20:41,931 --> 00:20:45,521 B.B. WAS MY BEST FRIEND AT THE TIME. 363 00:20:45,517 --> 00:20:48,997 BUT AFTER THAT, I WASN'T EVER THE SAME. 364 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,410 B.B. WAS NEVER THE SAME. 365 00:20:51,413 --> 00:20:54,483 ♪♪ 366 00:20:54,482 --> 00:20:58,412 SHE NEVER CAME OVER AGAIN. 367 00:20:58,413 --> 00:21:02,833 I DON'T KNOW IF TO SEE EACH OTHER MADE IT HARDER, MAYBE. 368 00:21:02,827 --> 00:21:04,657 I DON'T KNOW. 369 00:21:04,655 --> 00:21:05,925 [ Crying ] I'M SORRY. 370 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:12,901 ♪♪ 371 00:21:12,896 --> 00:21:19,896 ♪♪ 372 00:21:19,896 --> 00:21:22,586 Lafferty: I'D BEEN PESTERING MY MOM A LITTLE BIT. 373 00:21:22,586 --> 00:21:24,656 FOR SOME ANSWERS. 374 00:21:24,655 --> 00:21:28,405 MOM. 375 00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:33,313 I TOLD HER I KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENED. 376 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:37,280 WHAT HAPPENED? 377 00:21:37,275 --> 00:21:39,615 SHE WOULD TELL ME THAT SHE JUST... "YOU'RE NOT READY." 378 00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:43,760 I PROMISE... SOMEDAY. 379 00:21:43,758 --> 00:21:46,098 WHAT DID SHE MEAN I WASN'T READY? 380 00:21:46,103 --> 00:21:48,413 WHAT AM I NOT READY FOR? 381 00:21:48,413 --> 00:21:52,523 I HAVE THESE MEMORIES, THESE FLASHES, THESE DREAMS... 382 00:21:52,517 --> 00:21:56,097 NO ANSWERS WHATSOEVER TO ANY OF THAT. 383 00:21:56,103 --> 00:22:02,723 ♪♪ 384 00:22:02,724 --> 00:22:09,344 ♪♪ 385 00:22:09,344 --> 00:22:13,904 SUPPOSEDLY, THIS IS THE SHIRT THAT I WAS WEARING THE DAY 386 00:22:13,896 --> 00:22:18,546 THAT MY DAD WAS SHOT. 387 00:22:18,551 --> 00:22:22,791 I THINK I FOUND IT ACCIDENTALLY. 388 00:22:22,793 --> 00:22:25,863 MY MOM YELLED AT ME ABOUT IT. 389 00:22:25,862 --> 00:22:29,622 SHE FOUND ME LOOKING AT IT. 390 00:22:29,620 --> 00:22:33,790 ♪♪ 391 00:22:33,793 --> 00:22:39,073 IT WAS THE START OF ME BEING ABLE TO PUT THE PUZZLE TOGETHER 392 00:22:39,068 --> 00:22:42,828 AND AT THE AGE OF 11, I GUESS SHE FINALLY DECIDED 393 00:22:42,827 --> 00:22:45,377 THAT EITHER I'VE PESTERED HER ENOUGH, 394 00:22:45,379 --> 00:22:49,969 OR SHE FELT THAT I WAS READY, 395 00:22:49,965 --> 00:22:52,025 WHICH, I COULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW LOOKING BACK, 396 00:22:52,034 --> 00:22:55,144 I WASN'T READY AT ALL FOR THE BOMBSHELL 397 00:22:55,137 --> 00:22:57,897 THAT GOT DROPPED ON ME. 398 00:22:57,896 --> 00:22:59,616 YOU WERE ONLY TWO YEARS OLD. 399 00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:05,000 ♪♪ 400 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,310 ♪♪ 401 00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:13,000 THE ANSWERS MADE ME ANGRY, I BELIEVE, 402 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,480 BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION WAS KEPT FROM ME FOR SO LONG. 403 00:23:18,482 --> 00:23:20,902 ♪♪ 404 00:23:20,896 --> 00:23:22,896 THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, I HATE TO SAY, 405 00:23:22,896 --> 00:23:27,376 IT WAS WHERE A PATH OF SELF-DESTRUCTION STARTED FOR ME. 406 00:23:27,379 --> 00:23:29,409 ♪♪ 407 00:23:29,413 --> 00:23:35,523 ALCOHOL AND DRUGS AT THE AGE OF 11, 408 00:23:35,517 --> 00:23:41,027 BEING KNOWN AS A FULL-BLOWN ALCOHOLIC BY THE AGE OF 13. 409 00:23:41,034 --> 00:23:46,104 IT WAS... FREEDOM TO ME. 410 00:23:46,103 --> 00:23:50,413 ♪♪ 411 00:23:50,413 --> 00:23:55,173 SOME FIGHTS I GOT INTO, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HAPPENED. 412 00:23:55,172 --> 00:23:58,312 ♪♪ 413 00:23:58,310 --> 00:24:00,590 THAT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE. 414 00:24:00,586 --> 00:24:08,446 ♪♪ 415 00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:16,378 ♪♪ 416 00:24:16,379 --> 00:24:21,099 Thomas: I OFTEN WONDERED WHAT HAPPENED TO BRANDON. 417 00:24:21,103 --> 00:24:23,283 I WOULD KIND OF HEAR LITTLE THINGS HERE AND THERE, 418 00:24:23,275 --> 00:24:27,405 BUT I WONDERED HOW HE WAS DOING OR HOW HE WAS COPING. 419 00:24:27,413 --> 00:24:31,103 ♪♪ 420 00:24:31,103 --> 00:24:33,763 I REALLY DIDN'T THINK HE'D REMEMBER ANY OF IT. 421 00:24:33,758 --> 00:24:37,858 ♪♪ 422 00:24:37,862 --> 00:24:41,452 THAT WAS THE SHIRT THAT BRANDON WAS WEARING THAT DAY. 423 00:24:41,448 --> 00:24:48,828 I CAN'T REMEMBER BUT I THINK IT HAD "SHORT STOP" ON IT. 424 00:24:48,827 --> 00:24:54,097 YEAH, IT DOES... RIGHT THERE. 425 00:24:54,103 --> 00:24:55,903 ARE THESE BLOOD STAINS? 426 00:24:55,896 --> 00:24:59,716 SO, OKAY. 427 00:24:59,724 --> 00:25:03,524 YEAH, THAT'S A LOT OF BLOOD. 428 00:25:03,517 --> 00:25:06,897 I MEAN I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT MUCH. 429 00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:13,096 ♪♪ 430 00:25:13,103 --> 00:25:14,933 GOSH. 431 00:25:14,931 --> 00:25:23,031 ♪♪ 432 00:25:23,034 --> 00:25:31,174 ♪♪ 433 00:25:31,172 --> 00:25:35,932 THEY JUST SENT THIS OVER. 434 00:25:35,931 --> 00:25:37,971 THAT'S THEIR VEHICLE. 435 00:25:37,965 --> 00:25:40,855 THE TRUCK GOT TWO PARKING TICKETS ON IT 436 00:25:40,862 --> 00:25:43,382 IN NEW ORLEANS, AND LAW- ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THERE 437 00:25:43,379 --> 00:25:46,999 RAN THE TAGS, SAW IT WAS INVOLVED IN A DOUBLE HOMICIDE. 438 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,720 THANKS, DETECTIVE. 439 00:25:48,724 --> 00:25:50,724 THE INVESTIGATIVE TEAM AS A WHOLE 440 00:25:50,724 --> 00:25:53,074 INVESTIGATED LEADS IN NEW ORLEANS, 441 00:25:53,068 --> 00:25:55,278 BUT BOTH OF THEM HAD GONE TO JAIL 442 00:25:55,275 --> 00:25:57,755 FOR STEALING VEHICLES IN THE PAST. 443 00:25:57,758 --> 00:25:59,898 THEY KNOW THAT TAG NUMBERS WILL BE RUN, 444 00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:02,716 AND THEY'D DUMP THE TRUCK ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. 445 00:26:02,724 --> 00:26:07,174 WHERE THEY HAD GONE FROM THERE, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW. 446 00:26:07,172 --> 00:26:10,832 THEY WERE A DANGER TO WHEREVER THEY WERE AT. 447 00:26:10,827 --> 00:26:13,237 WE WERE UNCOVERING EVERY STONE THAT WE COULD 448 00:26:13,241 --> 00:26:15,031 TRYING TO FIND LEADS. 449 00:26:18,551 --> 00:26:25,971 ♪♪ 450 00:26:25,965 --> 00:26:32,855 ♪♪ 451 00:26:32,862 --> 00:26:39,032 THAT'S A PICTURE OF MY DAD HOLDING ME AS A BABY. 452 00:26:39,034 --> 00:26:44,004 YOU CAN TELL THAT HE LOVES ME EVEN AS A BABY. 453 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,240 PERSON'S EYES TELL YOU EVERYTHING. 454 00:26:46,241 --> 00:26:53,411 ♪♪ 455 00:26:53,413 --> 00:26:55,693 I DON'T. I WISH I HAD MORE. 456 00:26:55,689 --> 00:27:04,029 ♪♪ 457 00:27:04,034 --> 00:27:12,314 ♪♪ 458 00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:16,000 Owen: MINNICK CONFESSES IN SAN DIEGO, 459 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,310 AND DURING THE TRANSPORT BACK TO MISSISSIPPI, 460 00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:23,280 HE BEGAN TELLING HIS STORY ON WHAT HAPPENED. 461 00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:25,995 MINNICK AND DYESS BROKE OUT OF JAIL. 462 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,140 THEY HAD BEEN UP ALL NIGHT WALKING. 463 00:27:28,137 --> 00:27:31,757 IT WAS 17 MILES BY ROAD. 464 00:27:31,758 --> 00:27:34,548 LATER IN THE AFTERNOON, SAW A MOBILE HOME. 465 00:27:34,551 --> 00:27:38,141 THEY BROKE IN IT. 466 00:27:38,137 --> 00:27:40,517 THEY WERE IN THE TRAILER GETTING GUNS, 467 00:27:40,517 --> 00:27:42,237 STEALING WHATEVER THEY COULD FIND 468 00:27:42,241 --> 00:27:46,761 THAT THEY COULD TRAVEL WITH WHEN LAFFERTY AND THOMAS 469 00:27:46,758 --> 00:27:52,858 PULLED UP IN A TRUCK AND PULLED AROUND BEHIND THE TRAILER. 470 00:27:52,862 --> 00:27:56,142 MINNICK AND DYESS STEPPED OUT OF THE BACK DOOR. 471 00:27:56,137 --> 00:28:00,687 THOMAS STARTED RUNNING AND DYESS SHOT THOMAS WITH A SHOTGUN. 472 00:28:00,689 --> 00:28:03,409 [ GUNSHOT ] 473 00:28:03,413 --> 00:28:07,143 AT THAT TIME, MINNICK HAD A .22 PISTOL THAT HE HAD TAKEN 474 00:28:07,137 --> 00:28:10,307 OUT OF THE HOUSE, AND HE STEPPED OFF THE STEPS 475 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:14,140 AND WALKED AROUND TO LAFFERTY AND LAFFERTY WAS HOLDING 476 00:28:14,137 --> 00:28:18,137 HIS 2-YEAR-OLD SON IN HIS ARMS. 477 00:28:18,137 --> 00:28:20,447 LAFFERTY BEGAN PLEADING WITH HIM, "DON'T HURT MY SON. 478 00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:23,618 DON'T HURT MY SON." 479 00:28:23,620 --> 00:28:27,410 AND MINNICK PUT THE PISTOL BETWEEN HIS EYES 480 00:28:27,413 --> 00:28:30,033 AND SHOT AND KILLED HIM WHILE HE WAS HOLDING HIS SON. 481 00:28:30,034 --> 00:28:32,034 [ GUNSHOT ] 482 00:28:32,034 --> 00:28:37,074 ♪♪ 483 00:28:37,068 --> 00:28:40,378 I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN GET ANY WORSE THAN THAT. 484 00:28:40,379 --> 00:28:47,239 ♪♪ 485 00:28:47,241 --> 00:28:53,621 ♪♪ 486 00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:55,550 Thomas: THE TRIAL WAS THE EASY PART. 487 00:28:55,551 --> 00:28:59,031 COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD JUST BEEN THROUGH. 488 00:28:59,034 --> 00:29:00,554 Man: DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, 489 00:29:00,551 --> 00:29:02,931 AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? 490 00:29:02,931 --> 00:29:05,171 I SWEAR. 491 00:29:05,172 --> 00:29:08,172 I FELT THE PRESSURE IN MAINLY ABOUT THE STORY 492 00:29:08,172 --> 00:29:11,072 THAT WE HAD TOLD BECAUSE WE HAD LIED ABOUT IT 493 00:29:11,068 --> 00:29:13,408 TO THE FIRST POLICE OFFICER, 494 00:29:13,413 --> 00:29:16,103 AND I JUST EXPLAINED WHAT HAD HAPPENED... 495 00:29:16,103 --> 00:29:18,933 THAT WE FELT LIKE THEY WERE GONNA COME BACK AND KILL US. 496 00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:21,691 HE SAID HE'D COME BACK FOR US. 497 00:29:21,689 --> 00:29:25,169 I REALLY HAD TO EXPLAIN THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 498 00:29:25,172 --> 00:29:28,552 THAT PART MADE ME REALLY NERVOUS, 499 00:29:28,551 --> 00:29:29,931 BUT I FELT EMPOWERED. 500 00:29:29,931 --> 00:29:32,171 I REALLY DID FEEL EMPOWERED BY TESTIFYING, 501 00:29:32,172 --> 00:29:35,972 I FELT LIKE I GOT TO TELL MY SIDE OF THE STORY, 502 00:29:35,965 --> 00:29:39,335 AND IT WAS HIM THAT WAS VULNERABLE, 503 00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:43,904 BECAUSE THE WAY WE FELT IN THAT TRAILER, 504 00:29:43,896 --> 00:29:46,136 YOU KNOW, HE HAD ALL THE POWER, 505 00:29:46,137 --> 00:29:50,207 AND IN COURT, IT FELT LIKE WE HAD ALL THE POWER. 506 00:29:50,206 --> 00:29:52,586 THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE. 507 00:29:52,586 --> 00:30:00,096 ♪♪ 508 00:30:00,103 --> 00:30:07,593 ♪♪ 509 00:30:07,586 --> 00:30:15,136 ♪♪ 510 00:30:15,137 --> 00:30:18,167 Owen: A YOUNG POLICE OFFICER MADE A TRAFFIC STOP. 511 00:30:18,172 --> 00:30:23,452 ON A VEHICLE THAT WAS STOLEN IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA. 512 00:30:23,448 --> 00:30:27,238 DYESS WAS DRIVING A STOLEN VEHICLE. 513 00:30:27,241 --> 00:30:29,931 HE WAS PLACED IN CUSTODY FOR STEALING THE VEHICLE 514 00:30:29,931 --> 00:30:31,971 AND GOT BACK TO THE JAIL, 515 00:30:31,965 --> 00:30:34,755 THEY DETERMINED THAT IT WAS REALLY DYESS. 516 00:30:34,758 --> 00:30:39,928 ♪♪ 517 00:30:39,931 --> 00:30:45,141 ♪♪ 518 00:30:45,137 --> 00:30:48,617 WHEN YOU FIND THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, THAT HE'S IN CUSTODY, 519 00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:50,720 THAT HE'S NO LONGER GONNA HURT ANYBODY, 520 00:30:50,724 --> 00:30:53,484 THAT'S WHEN YOU REALLY GET THAT SENSE OF RELIEF 521 00:30:53,482 --> 00:30:55,282 THAT IT'S OVER. 522 00:30:55,275 --> 00:31:02,025 ♪♪ 523 00:31:02,034 --> 00:31:03,344 OF COURSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY, 524 00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:05,034 "WELL, WOULDN'T THE END BE THE TRIALS 525 00:31:05,034 --> 00:31:07,074 AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT?" 526 00:31:07,068 --> 00:31:10,658 THE PROSECUTION OF THE PEOPLE WHO DONE IT, 527 00:31:10,655 --> 00:31:12,855 THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. 528 00:31:12,862 --> 00:31:16,342 THAT'S NOT MY STORY. 529 00:31:16,344 --> 00:31:19,174 MY MOM TOLD ME THAT MY REAL DAD WAS KILLED 530 00:31:19,172 --> 00:31:21,762 WHENEVER I WAS 2. 531 00:31:21,758 --> 00:31:24,278 IT WAS JUST A VAGUE PICTURE. 532 00:31:24,275 --> 00:31:27,785 SHE DIDN'T REALLY GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT ANYTHING. 533 00:31:27,793 --> 00:31:32,763 ♪♪ 534 00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:34,758 I WAS STILL ACTIVELY SEEKING SOMEONE 535 00:31:34,758 --> 00:31:37,098 WHO WOULD TALK TO ME ABOUT IT... 536 00:31:37,103 --> 00:31:41,283 JUST ANY BIT OF DETAIL THAT I COULD'VE GOTTEN. 537 00:31:41,275 --> 00:31:43,405 ♪♪ 538 00:31:43,413 --> 00:31:46,033 I WAS IN MY MID-20s. 539 00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,344 I'D WENT TO THE SHERIFF TO FIND OUT 540 00:31:48,344 --> 00:31:50,314 IF THERE WAS ANY DEPUTIES THAT WERE LEFT 541 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:53,760 TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED THAT DAY. 542 00:31:53,758 --> 00:31:57,618 HE TOLD ME THAT DEPUTY HOPSON 543 00:31:57,620 --> 00:32:00,760 WAS ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING DEPUTIES 544 00:32:00,758 --> 00:32:05,408 WHO EVEN WORKED THE CASE. 545 00:32:05,413 --> 00:32:07,863 PART OF ME WANTED TO JUST TURN AROUND AND RUN, 546 00:32:07,862 --> 00:32:11,002 'CAUSE I WAS WONDERING IF I WAS REALLY READY 547 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,720 TO HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. 548 00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:16,524 AND HE SAID HE COULD REMEMBER EVERY BIT OF IT 549 00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:18,927 JUST LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. 550 00:32:18,931 --> 00:32:21,521 TOLD ME WHERE POOLS OF BLOOD WERE FOUND AT, 551 00:32:21,517 --> 00:32:24,687 THE SHAPE OF MY FATHER'S BODY 552 00:32:24,689 --> 00:32:27,969 WHENEVER THEY RETRIEVED IT FROM THE GULLY. 553 00:32:27,965 --> 00:32:31,855 AS WE TALKED, I DID TENSE UP A LITTLE BIT 554 00:32:31,862 --> 00:32:34,832 WITH SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT HE WAS TELLING ME. 555 00:32:34,827 --> 00:32:36,517 HE ASKED ME DID HE NEED TO STOP, 556 00:32:36,517 --> 00:32:38,617 AND I TOLD HIM NO, TO CONTINUE ON. 557 00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:40,380 I NEED TO KNOW. 558 00:32:40,379 --> 00:32:42,829 ♪♪ 559 00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:45,967 I ASKED HIM FLAT OUT 560 00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:50,205 WAS THERE A POOL OF BLOOD RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BACK DOOR 561 00:32:50,206 --> 00:32:55,066 AT THE END OF THE PROPANE TANK, AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAYS, 562 00:32:55,068 --> 00:32:57,788 "NO ONE SHOULD EVEN KNOW THAT." 563 00:32:57,793 --> 00:33:01,343 ♪♪ 564 00:33:01,344 --> 00:33:05,004 MY FATHER WAS EXECUTED AT THE END OF THE PROPANE TANK. 565 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,790 ♪♪ 566 00:33:07,793 --> 00:33:13,143 THAT TELLS ME I MUST REMEMBER SOMETHING. 567 00:33:13,137 --> 00:33:18,757 ♪♪ 568 00:33:18,758 --> 00:33:24,408 ♪♪ 569 00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:30,283 SO, THIS IS THE VERY FIRST PHOTO I'VE EVER SEEN OF THAT DAY. 570 00:33:30,275 --> 00:33:33,135 THAT'S HIS HAT. 571 00:33:33,137 --> 00:33:36,067 SAME ONE HE WORE WHEN I WAS BORN. 572 00:33:36,068 --> 00:33:40,448 ♪♪ 573 00:33:40,448 --> 00:33:44,168 IF YOU LOOK AT IT, 574 00:33:44,172 --> 00:33:49,452 THAT'S THE SAME STYLE THERE... 575 00:33:49,448 --> 00:33:52,308 AND EVEN IN HERE. 576 00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:54,550 THAT'S THE SAME HAT. 577 00:33:54,551 --> 00:34:04,071 ♪♪ 578 00:34:04,068 --> 00:34:06,408 THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THAT, THOUGH. 579 00:34:06,413 --> 00:34:12,283 ♪♪ 580 00:34:12,275 --> 00:34:18,135 ♪♪ 581 00:34:18,137 --> 00:34:20,277 THAT MIGHT BE A BAD IDEA. 582 00:34:20,275 --> 00:34:24,405 I WOULD RATHER NOT SEE THOSE. 583 00:34:24,413 --> 00:34:31,003 ♪♪ 584 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,280 I HAD MY BEGINNING FROM WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAD TOLD ME, 585 00:34:34,275 --> 00:34:38,275 AND I HAD THE END FROM WHAT THE DEPUTIES HAD TOLD ME. 586 00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:39,995 MARTY WAS THERE. 587 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,100 MARTY WAS THE ONE WHO COME UP ON THE SCENE. 588 00:34:43,103 --> 00:34:47,143 THAT'S MY MIDDLE STORY THAT I'M WAITING ON, 589 00:34:47,137 --> 00:34:49,207 AND I'M HOPING I GET THAT FROM MARTY. 590 00:34:49,206 --> 00:34:56,206 ♪♪ 591 00:34:56,206 --> 00:34:58,996 I FOUND OUT WHERE SHE WAS LIVING AT, 592 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:06,030 AND I JUST SO HAPPENED TO STOP BY HER HOUSE. 593 00:35:06,034 --> 00:35:09,384 I WAS VERY SCARED TO EVEN BRING IT UP. 594 00:35:09,379 --> 00:35:13,279 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD TRIGGER FOR HER. 595 00:35:13,275 --> 00:35:15,205 HER KIDS WERE IN THE HOUSE, 596 00:35:15,206 --> 00:35:19,336 AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IT UP IN FRONT OF THEM, EITHER. 597 00:35:19,344 --> 00:35:22,284 I DID LEAVE THAT DAY HOPING THAT I WOULD HAVE 598 00:35:22,275 --> 00:35:25,405 THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO HER AGAIN. 599 00:35:25,413 --> 00:35:32,033 ♪♪ 600 00:35:32,034 --> 00:35:35,554 IT'S BEEN A LONG PATH FOR ME. 601 00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:38,101 I'M STILL CONTINUING DOWN THAT PATH. 602 00:35:38,103 --> 00:35:43,553 I DO NOT HAVE FULL CLOSURE WITH WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. 603 00:35:43,551 --> 00:35:45,411 I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO KNOW. 604 00:35:45,413 --> 00:35:47,343 I WANTED TO KNOW. 605 00:35:47,344 --> 00:35:49,794 THIS WAS PART OF MY CLOSURE. 606 00:35:54,862 --> 00:35:59,972 ♪♪ 607 00:35:59,965 --> 00:36:05,275 ♪♪ 608 00:36:05,275 --> 00:36:08,375 I AM NERVOUS TO SEE MARTY TODAY. 609 00:36:08,379 --> 00:36:12,069 ME AND MARTY HAD NEVER DISCUSSED WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. 610 00:36:12,068 --> 00:36:15,068 I'D NEVER REALLY SAT DOWN, ONE ON ONE, 611 00:36:15,068 --> 00:36:17,478 TO BE ABLE TO TALK WITH HER. 612 00:36:17,482 --> 00:36:19,972 WE MISSED THE TURN. 613 00:36:19,965 --> 00:36:21,615 IT'S ALL RIGHT, THOUGH. 614 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:23,930 MARTY WAS THERE. 615 00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:26,761 THAT'S MY MIDDLE STORY THAT I'M WAITING ON. 616 00:36:26,758 --> 00:36:34,618 ♪♪ 617 00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:42,520 ♪♪ 618 00:36:42,517 --> 00:36:44,857 HEY! HEY. 619 00:36:44,862 --> 00:36:48,032 BOY, YOU LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT, DON'T YOU? 620 00:36:48,034 --> 00:36:49,594 IT'S BEEN A WHILE.HOW ARE YOU? YEAH. 621 00:36:49,586 --> 00:36:51,996 I OFTEN WANTED TO TRY TO TALK TO YOU AND REACH OUT 622 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,790 TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT IT WAS THE FAMILY TABOO. 623 00:36:58,793 --> 00:37:01,033 NOBODY TALKED ABOUT IT, SO IF NOBODY ELSE 624 00:37:01,034 --> 00:37:03,414 WOULD TALK ABOUT IT, WHY WOULD YOU? 625 00:37:03,413 --> 00:37:04,903 Thomas: YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE, BRANDON. 626 00:37:04,896 --> 00:37:08,166 NOBODY EVER TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT. 627 00:37:08,172 --> 00:37:10,002 I CAN'T REMEMBER ANYBODY SAYING, 628 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 "HEY, HOW DID YOU DEAL WITH THAT?" 629 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,550 IT WAS ALWAYS JUST "MARTY'S JUST TOUGH. 630 00:37:14,551 --> 00:37:16,281 SHE'LL BE FINE." 631 00:37:16,275 --> 00:37:19,685 I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW A LOT ABOUT THAT DAY 632 00:37:19,689 --> 00:37:21,549 UNTIL AFTER I'D GOTTEN OLDER. 633 00:37:21,551 --> 00:37:22,831 RIGHT. 634 00:37:22,827 --> 00:37:25,097 I WAS VERY MUCH AWARE THAT YOU WERE THERE, 635 00:37:25,103 --> 00:37:28,383 AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY YOU WERE THERE, 636 00:37:28,379 --> 00:37:30,339 BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED FOR YOU TO SEE, 637 00:37:30,344 --> 00:37:33,864 BECAUSE YOU HAD BLOOD ON YOU. 638 00:37:33,862 --> 00:37:39,482 ONE OF US GRABBED YOU, AND WE LEFT, 639 00:37:39,482 --> 00:37:42,932 AND THEY LEFT THE KEYS IN THE CAR THAT WE DROVE UP IN. 640 00:37:42,931 --> 00:37:44,791 I DO REMEMBER DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD 641 00:37:44,793 --> 00:37:49,453 AND JUST... SHAKING. 642 00:37:49,448 --> 00:37:51,548 AND THEN, WHEN WE GET TO THE PLACE 643 00:37:51,551 --> 00:37:54,071 I WAS GOING TO CALL FOR HELP, 644 00:37:54,068 --> 00:37:56,138 I NEVER SAW YOU AGAIN AFTER THAT. 645 00:37:56,137 --> 00:37:59,027 [ SIGHS ] 646 00:37:59,034 --> 00:38:02,554 DO YOU REMEMBER US, ME, AT ALL? NOT AT ALL? 647 00:38:02,551 --> 00:38:04,241 THAT'S THE THING I DON'T REMEMBER. 648 00:38:04,241 --> 00:38:06,521 I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER BEING PUT IN THE TRAILER. 649 00:38:06,517 --> 00:38:09,337 I JUST REMEMBER MY DAD BEING SHOT. 650 00:38:09,344 --> 00:38:13,104 OH, I WAS HOPING YOU DIDN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING. 651 00:38:13,103 --> 00:38:20,663 ♪♪ 652 00:38:20,655 --> 00:38:28,205 ♪♪ 653 00:38:28,206 --> 00:38:32,476 I FINALLY HAVE MY COMPLETE STORY. 654 00:38:32,482 --> 00:38:34,722 SHE TOLD ME WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW? 655 00:38:34,724 --> 00:38:39,454 WHEN SHE SEEN ME, THAT I WAS COVERED IN BLOOD. 656 00:38:39,448 --> 00:38:44,098 ♪♪ 657 00:38:44,103 --> 00:38:47,173 REALLY, WHAT KIND OF PERSON DOES THAT... 658 00:38:47,172 --> 00:38:49,792 KILLS A MAN WHILE HE'S HOLDING HIS SON? 659 00:38:49,793 --> 00:38:59,033 ♪♪ 660 00:38:59,034 --> 00:39:08,384 ♪♪ 661 00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:10,479 Thomas: YOU CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER. 662 00:39:10,482 --> 00:39:12,662 HOW YOUR LIFE WOULD'VE BEEN IF HE'D STILL BEEN IN IT. 663 00:39:12,655 --> 00:39:16,475 LIKE HOW WOULD IT CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF OUR FAMILY? 664 00:39:16,482 --> 00:39:21,102 WOULD OUR FAMILY REALLY NOT HAD KIND OF SPLIT APART 665 00:39:21,103 --> 00:39:25,663 AFTER ALL THAT IF IT WOULD'VE NEVER HAPPENED? 666 00:39:25,655 --> 00:39:30,615 AND HE'D PROBABLY BE LIVING IN THE SAME PLACE. 667 00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:33,550 I MEAN, YOU JUST WONDER WHAT WOULD HE HAVE DONE, 668 00:39:33,551 --> 00:39:37,311 WHAT HIS KIDS WOULD BE LIKE... THAT KIND OF THING. 669 00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:43,140 ♪♪ 670 00:39:43,137 --> 00:39:44,307 AND HE LOOKED HAPPY THERE, 671 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:45,930 AND THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER HIM LOOKING 672 00:39:45,931 --> 00:39:51,241 WITH THAT STYLE OF HAIR [CHUCKLES], YOU KNOW? 673 00:39:51,241 --> 00:39:53,281 AND HE WAS REALLY FUNNY, AND LAID-BACK GUY, 674 00:39:53,275 --> 00:39:56,205 AND HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WORRIES IN THE WORLD. 675 00:39:56,206 --> 00:40:00,306 ♪♪ 676 00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:02,520 AND HE'S MISSED. 677 00:40:02,517 --> 00:40:03,927 HE'S... REALLY MISSED. 678 00:40:03,931 --> 00:40:06,721 I'M SORRY. 679 00:40:06,724 --> 00:40:15,724 ♪♪ 680 00:40:15,724 --> 00:40:18,104 Owen: IN 1986, 681 00:40:18,103 --> 00:40:20,793 THERE WAS FOUR FULL-TIME LAW-ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS 682 00:40:20,793 --> 00:40:22,973 WITH THE CLARKE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT... 683 00:40:22,965 --> 00:40:24,445 SHERIFF DAVID EARL WILLIAMS, 684 00:40:24,448 --> 00:40:26,828 CHIEF DEPUTY J.C. DENHAM, 685 00:40:26,827 --> 00:40:29,587 DEPUTY JOHNNY HOPSON, AND MYSELF. 686 00:40:29,586 --> 00:40:33,656 THEY WERE ALL A BUNCH OF GREAT MEN THAT I RESPECTED, 687 00:40:33,655 --> 00:40:38,515 AND I'M THE ONLY ONE LEFT TO TALK TO THAT WAS FULL-TIME 688 00:40:38,517 --> 00:40:41,477 WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME. 689 00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:43,412 YOU LEARN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE ACADEMY, 690 00:40:43,413 --> 00:40:47,173 BUT THEN YOU REALLY LEARN IT OUT ON THE STREETS, 691 00:40:47,172 --> 00:40:49,412 AND THIS CASE PREPARED ME FOR THE DAY 692 00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:52,313 THAT I BECAME THE LEAD INVESTIGATOR. 693 00:40:52,310 --> 00:41:00,620 ♪♪ 694 00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:08,240 I JUST WOKE UP ONE MORNING, AND EVERYTHING WAS GONE... 695 00:41:08,241 --> 00:41:12,971 THE HATE, THE VENGEANCE, THE WANT, THE NEED FOR ALCOHOL, 696 00:41:12,965 --> 00:41:15,475 THE WANT AND THE NEED FOR DRUGS. 697 00:41:15,482 --> 00:41:18,312 ♪♪ 698 00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:22,030 I FELT LIKE THIS BURDEN THAT I'D CARRIED 699 00:41:22,034 --> 00:41:26,004 HAD BEEN LIFTED OFF OF ME. 700 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,210 SOMEBODY TOOK IT OFF OF ME. 701 00:41:29,206 --> 00:41:32,096 DAD, YOU KNOW, HE PROBABLY STEPPED IN 702 00:41:32,103 --> 00:41:33,453 AND FINALLY SAID, "HEY, THIS IS ENOUGH. 703 00:41:33,448 --> 00:41:37,378 IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON." 704 00:41:37,379 --> 00:41:40,619 I REALLY STRAIGHTENED MY LIFE OUT AFTER THAT. 705 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:43,410 I AM NOW AN OWNER-OPERATOR, 706 00:41:43,413 --> 00:41:48,343 SELF-CONTRACTED TRUCK DRIVER. 707 00:41:48,344 --> 00:41:50,104 DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD SOMETIMES, 708 00:41:50,103 --> 00:41:53,933 IT'S LIKE A CALMING PRESENCE IS WITH ME, 709 00:41:53,931 --> 00:41:57,281 SOMEONE THAT'S LETTING ME KNOW IT'S OKAY. 710 00:41:57,275 --> 00:42:02,135 YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE ALL RIGHT. 711 00:42:02,137 --> 00:42:04,167 WHAT DEFINES A FATHER? 712 00:42:04,172 --> 00:42:07,622 SOMEONE WHO TAKES CARE OF YOU. 713 00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:10,340 I REMEMBER THE SADNESS IN HIS EYES, 714 00:42:10,344 --> 00:42:12,104 BECAUSE HE KNEW WHAT WAS FIXING TO HAPPEN, 715 00:42:12,103 --> 00:42:15,073 AND THERE WAS NOTHING HE COULD DO ABOUT IT. 716 00:42:15,068 --> 00:42:16,548 HE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO LET ME GO 717 00:42:16,551 --> 00:42:19,211 WHENEVER HE KNEW HE WAS GONNA DIE. 718 00:42:19,206 --> 00:42:20,546 [ Voice breaking ] I MEAN WHAT KIND OF LOVE... 719 00:42:20,551 --> 00:42:25,211 REALLY, WHAT KIND OF LOVE IS THAT? 720 00:42:25,206 --> 00:42:28,166 THAT'S THE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE OF A FATHER. 721 00:42:28,172 --> 00:42:31,452 ♪♪