[narrator] Previously on Before the 90 Days.
[woman speaking]
I didn't expect me to fall in love this soon.
Oh, yeah.
The next step is talking about if I can move in.
And I hope she's on the same page as I am
because I just don't know if I could handle that kind of rejection.
- To the United Staes? - [Razvan speaking]
If you would have told me that in the beginning I would have been like,
"Well, that's kind of a red flag."
The most important thing in a relationship is trust.
When you lose trust you have nothing,
And I don't think Amanda trusts me.
[Jasmine] Sometimes I feel like, your family,
they don't liking me.
Gino's cousin texted me on social media something that...
Would you agree to talk to Dana
- through video call? - Okay.
Okay.
[crying]
[crying continues]
[Cleo] We agreed that
I feel like I've been manipulated.
And he just kept saying it was probably best we not talk about it
to protect you.
[Tyray] Oh, man, my heart is racing.
It's finally here, you know.
The real Carmella told me
that she'd be open to meeting.
I don't know how I'm gonna react when I see this person.
[Amanda] Are you getting up?
- I don't think so. - [Amanda laughing]
[Razvan speaking]
- [Amanda chuckles] - [chuckles] What?
[chuckles]
The last few days with Razvan and I have been so much better.
Razvan has really been showing me that he cares about me,
that he's listening.
I don't know. I feel closer with him.
So we stayed up all night.
Um... [chuckling]
And we...
[laughing]
Yeah. [laughing]
- [both laughing] - Oh, my God.
Why would you even say that?
I just felt like it was the right time.
And also, it was really difficult to hear his friend Deanna
call my relationship with Razvan toxic.
Honestly, it makes me want to be a better partner for Razvan
because I love him.
[Razvan speaking]
[chuckling]
I feel like that waiting, like, just made it more special.
I was kind of worried.
Like, I would feel bad to be with someone else, like, intimately.
But I did, and I feel like it was a good thing.
[Razvan speaking]
- No. It was a really special moment. - Oh, My God.
- And... - [laughing]
[Razvan] You are really amazing
because sometimes you are distant with me.
But, uh, last night I didn't feel that.
We really connected...
...in that moment.
- [chuckling] - [chuckles]
[Razvan speaking]
[Amanda chuckling]
[laughing]
- [Razvan mimics Dracula] - Stop. [chuckling]
- [Razvan roars] - [laughing]
[Razvan speaking]
You know, I talked with the producer
to push the video after you leave,
like, because we don't have much time,
and I want to spend those days with you.
- And... - [Amanda] Aw.
You're so sweet.
[Razvan speaking]
And I do want to make things work.
So I feel like we are in a good place.
This is so exciting.
Yeah.
[Amanda] Oh, yeah.
- [Razvan speaking] - [Amanda] Yeah.
So, you are scared?
No.
Not even
- [whispers] a little bit, no? - [chuckling]
I mean, you... you think I'm not, you know, a vampire or something?
[laughing]
[Amanda] Okay.
- On three. Let's go. - Okay.
- [laughing] - One.
- Two. Three. Go. - [laughing]
- That is too easy. - [both laughing]
- It's too easy, look. - [laughing]
- Why you running so fast? - [both laughing]
[Amanda] I just like to let you win.
- Yeah. - Oh, okay.
This is how I thought this trip will go.
Like, be relaxed, be happy.
[Amanda] Hold on.
[Razvan] And I'm hoping that we will just keep planning our future
because things are getting more serious
with us being intimately.
And I hope that she will continue
being 100% in this relationship
Oh, cool.
For example, these are called
We put inside whatever we want.
[Gino] Oh, beans, mmm.
[teacher] Perfect.
Okay.
- [Gino] Love it. - [Jasmine] Oh, it smells good.
- Um, these are your creations. - Oh, my gosh.
- Our creations. - [Gino] Yeah!
Mmm, so good.
- Yes, baby. Found a menu. - [Gino] I love that [bleep].
[both laughing]
[Gino] It's a little rocky.
Watch your step.
I'm an expert.
I could walk this even with high heels, trust me.
[both chuckling]
[Gino] Ever since I came to Panama Jasmine and I's relationship
has kinda been up and down.
But I feel like Jasmine and I are making progress
on this trip to Boquete.
- Look at this waterfall. - [Jasmine] I love it.
- [Gino] This is beautiful. - [Jasmine] Yes!
[Gino] Look at it. Oh, my gosh.
I could take a shower in that.
- The water is cold. - Get me some soap.
[both laughing]
Things are going very well.
But when I think about our next step
for her to move to Michigan,
I know there's some things we still have to resolve
like the issues Jasmine has with my family.
- [Jasmine chuckles] - Be careful over here.
So, um, we didn't have a chance to call Dana yesterday,
so I wanna call him today...
...so that we can speak to him.
Why don't we find some rocks and have a squat, and...
How does that sound?
[Jasmine] Okay.
I've been very mad ever since Gino's cousin, who I have never met,
send me a very ugly and hurtful message on social media
questioning my love for Gino.
So, Gino wants me to talk to his cousin to resolve this issue.
[cell phone ringing]
Don't show me immediately, you first.
Shh.
Because at the end of the day I... I want them to like me
because I know that Gino's family's important for him.
But at the same time
It's very hard for me to control my mouth.
[cell phone continues ringing]
Whoa, Dana, what's up?
How are you doing?
[Gino speaking]
I'm doing...
Can you see I'm in the great outdoors?
[Dana speaking]
[Gino laughing]
Uh, Western Panama.
[Gino] Awesome, yeah.
So, um,
anyway, I have Jasmine here.
Um...
Hi.
[laughing]
- [laughing] - [Gino and Jasmine chuckling]
So, uh, so, Dana, you know,
uh, you remember the message you sent to Jasmine about, you know...
Yeah. So you didn't mean anything by it which I...
That's what, you know...
Dana, so...
what... What do you mean? Like, what kind of doubts you have?
Like, the way, see, yeah, and I don't mean to be rude
it's, like, the only person I have to prove my love is real is to Gino.
Just for the record, I do love Gino.
Like, yes, we have had arguments, but,
You know, it's not like Gino is an innocent baby and I'm like the bad bitch.
I don't feel like Dana's apology is sincere.
He's just saying it because Gino's there.
But the way he really feels toward me is that...
Well, thanks for taking the time to talk to us.
Uh...
[Gino] And I'm glad you and Jasmine were able to, you know,
uh, work out some stuff.
[Dana speaking]
I was hoping that Dana and Jasmine
could resolve their differences today.
But it seems like Jasmine is not going to let this go.
[Dana speaking]
[Jasmine] Okay. Bye.
Bye, Dana.
- [Dana] All right, guys. - [Jasmine] Oops.
Oh, [bleep].
I just Jasmine to understand that my family is very important to me.
And now that she's about to move to Michigan with me,
I just want them to get along
because I don't wanna be in the situation where
I have to choose between my family and Jasmine.
That would be, you know, devastating.
I'm struggling to understand where you stand.
I'm feeling very nervous about confronting Christian.
Why would I have sex with you last night,
and then lie?
But you kind of did.
I... Because I'm...
Okay, look, I...
[Tyray] I'm nervous
just not knowing what's gonna happen
and what might come from this meeting.
Even though she's not the face I've been talking to,
it's the face that I loved.
Oh, man.
I feel like even the fact that you're there
will just make me feel more at ease.
We are heading to the B and B.
And I'm still feeling really upset.
You know, Christian and I had sex last night.
And we agreed to talk about it the next day.
But this morning, he lied, and he told the producers that we didn't go all the way.
For him to now lie about it and say that never happened,
I'm wondering is he embarrassed or ashamed to have sex with me?
It feels like a betrayal.
[Christian] Um, I'm feeling extremely deflated.
This morning I sent a message to Cleo
kind of explaining what I told the producers regarding our intimacy.
And then she called me on her way to class,
and was really upset.
She called me a manipulator.
She called me a gaslighter.
She asked me if I was a psychopath.
And I mean, the first thing I said was, like...
..."do you even know me?"
It's just extremely upsetting that something that I feel is a very small situation
that would be remedied with just some communication
has really blown out of proportion.
I'm not in a relationship with somebody to be anxious all the time,
waiting on them to decide whether or not I'm an evil person,
or here for ulterior motives.
I need to talk about things because I can't go on feeling like this.
[Cleo] Do you wanna, like,
- just make yourself comfortable? - [Jane] Sure.
[Cleo speaking]
Um, Christian.
[Jane smacks lips] Hello.
This is my friend Jane.
- Um, sorry, you're meeting in such an awkward situation. - [Christian] Hey, Jane.
- Nice to meet you. - [Jane] Hey.
Yeah, obviously, it's not ideal.
Um, you two have probably been talking,
and it's... I feel like I'm not necessarily getting a fair shake.
Uh, but, uh, yeah.
I'm feeling very nervous about confronting Christian.
Being autistic, I definitely thrive on emotional consistency
when it comes to commitment.
And because Christian has gone back so much on his words,
I do need the emotional support of a friend.
- This one's yours. - Oh, thank you.
So, I don't feel really great right now.
So, like, I don't know how well
I'll be able to articulate what I think.
Um, last night we had been intimate,
and you make it like such a big important part
of us going forward as a couple.
And the next day you suddenly change your tune,
and you lie.
I'm struggling to understand where you stand.
Okay, um...
...when I messaged you this morning,
and asked you what did you say,
I wanted to double check
because I'm not sure if you might have felt uncomfortable
and not have said anything about last night.
I told you that I was perfectly happy with being open.
What leads you to think that I would change my mind
when I've never ever not stuck to what I said to you?
Um, I, because,
See, I was trying to avoid a situation like this where...
But you've created this situation.
I mean, why would I have sex with you last night and express those feelings,
and then lie?
- But you kind of did. - [Jane] But you kind of did.
But I didn't, not in my mind.
[Jane] I think Christian is trying to save his face.
Uh, I think he just got caught, uh,
and... and he just was trying to find an excuse.
And I feel that's partially the reason why he's so defensive.
I am not sure if Christian is confident to date a transgender woman.
The only reason why he basically admitted that he had sex with Cleo
is because he was challenged by her.
I'm... [exhales]
Okay, look, I... I feel really grouped up on.
It feels very uneven, the fact there's two of you and there's only one of me.
I feel, like, really on the spot.
Jane, would it be all right if, you know,
you just went out of the room for a little bit while Cleo and I talked?
- Would you mind? - [Jane] Sure.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I'm gonna go then.
I am being defensive.
Like, between the two of them both chiming in,
it's very uncomfortable.
I just want the opportunity to talk to Cleo one on one
because I feel like now she's not giving me the benefit of the doubt
and it's really leaving me thinking,
"Is this even a relationship that I can be in anymore?"
Oh, man.
I can't believe that I'm finally meeting the real Carmella.
I need to find out if she has anything to do with this whole scam
with Christian and Barbados.
And after what I've been through, I can't trust anything
unless I see it with my own two eyes.
So confronting Carmella in person,
I can get a read of her to see if she is lying or not.
I'm nervous just not knowing what's going to happen
or what might come from this meeting, you know.
Even though she's not the face I've been talking to,
it's the face I loved.
- Hold on. Let me put my glasses on. - [both laugh]
I'm Tyray. Nice to meet you.
[Tyray] Oh.
[whispers] Okay.
- So, how you doing? - [Tyray] All right.
So...
Another version.
This is weird, I'm sorry. I know...
It's okay. I feel the same.
Seeing the real Carmella in person was a mind [bleep] .
To see her, like, in the flesh, I'm like...
Dumbfounded. I'm like, "Oh, my God."
She's dressed nice. She's got her nails done.
She looks, you know, even better than the photos.
This is the person I was in love with for four years
but at the same time, it's not her.
And it's hurtful, you know, to know that.
I don't even know where to start.
I bet it was weird for you, right?
I mean, you said you met on a dating app, right?
Yeah.
Just the whole thing as crazy, right?
I was on this dating site and I met this girl,
and she kind of like came on to me
and I thought it was weird, 'cause usually girls don't really do that, you know?
- Mmm-hmm. - And then she was telling me like what she wanted
to do with her life, that she wanted to, like, model,
and then, like, travelling, and then, like, she wasn't really my type
and then I felt like we got a mental connection too.
She said she lived in Barbados
and, like, I never seen proof though either,
but we were chatting for four years
then I found out she was actually a man named Christian
and he was using your pictures.
It's crazy.
I do kind of feel stuck about the situation, about, like, everything,
and, like, coming here was like,
"Dang, it's gonna be hard to see, you know, to see you."
Because I was, like, in a relationship with the image of you,
so it's like... It's just so hard.
Mmm-hmm.
[Tyray] Carmella is nice, but she does seem a little uncomfortable.
Maybe she knows, but not saying anything and she has a little guilt.
That's why she's acting the way she's acting.
So, I have a question.
This is weird. I'm sorry, but...
You don't have anything to do with this, right?
Oh.
You don't, like, know anybody named Christian from Barbados?
[laughs] Hi! Happy Valentine's Day.
No one's ever spoiled me the way Statler is tonight.
But Statler can be pretty intense,
so it does worry me that she might have something else planned.
I have like a month until my lease is up,
and I'm not planning on renewing it.
[Dempsey] Statler?
[sighs]
"I hope you've had a fabulous day. Let's have some fun.
Your first clue is in the field outside your front door.
XOXO, Statler."
Today's Valentine's Day.
I come home from work. Statler's not in.
And she's surprised me with a scavenger hunt.
I've no idea how she pulled this off
being that we've been together 24-7,
and we're out in the middle of nowhere and she doesn't know this area well.
I think it's the most romantic thing anybody has ever done for me.
In the field?
Ah, found it.
[exclaims]
Yeah, you're cute. You stay there. Stay.
[laughs]
"Good job finding clue two. Don't open your gift." [cheers]
"But bring it with you. You're next clue is with the wood in a bag.
Go to it, you should." 'Kay.
Right.
"Meet me out under the stars and grab your warmest clothes.
I want to kiss you in the dark and roast some marshmallows.
You are all I desire. So hurry to the fire."
I didn't know that she would do something like this.
The unknown is making me nervous.
I hope it's not a proposal.
That would be too soon.
All right. Looks like there's fire so far.
I'm feeling pretty nervous.
Telling someone I want to move here.
I want to move in with you.
I want to live with you.
For ever and ever and then...
She might not agree to that.
Being here in person with Dempsey this past week
has been absolutely amazing.
In my heart, I know I'm ready to move in with her
because of the way she makes me feel.
I feel happier than I've ever felt before.
[exhales]
I feel like I'm at a rose ceremony.
I want to talk about our future now
because I don't want to wait any longer
to find out if she feels the same way.
But if she says she isn't ready, it would really suck.
Because it might mean things aren't going as well as I think they are.
- [laughs] - [Dempsey whoops]
- [Statler] Hi. - Hi.
- Happy Valentine's Day. - Happy Valentine's.
- Are those for me? - Here. These are for you.
But I'll hold them because they have a lot of thorns.
So you're the thorn to my rose?
Yeah, I am the thorn to your rose.
- Do you want to sit down? [exclaims] - Yeah.
- For you. - Thank you.
These are the pomegranate drinks.
- Feel free to chug or cheers. Yep. - Cheers.
[Dempsey] You're drinking fast.
Um...
- Are you okay? - Yeah, it's a good... It's a good. Yeah.
- [Dempsey] Yeah. - First Valentine's Day. A big day. Yeah.
[exclaims]
- [Dempsey] Whoa, girl. - I know.
- [Dempsey] Steady on. - Steady on.
So, yeah, go ahead. Feel free to open your, uh...
- My stuff. - [Statler]
Oh, I see!
- [Statler] What is it? - Jewelry.
They're mushroom earrings that are made from mushrooms.
I brought it all the way from Dallas.
- [Dempsey] Oh, there we go. - [Statler] Oh, there it is.
- I know you like mushrooms. - [Dempsey] I do.
They're so cute.
- Yeah, they're cute. - Yeah. Thank you.
[Dempsey] No one's ever smiled at me the way Statler is tonight.
It makes me feel special.
Yeah, I feel very special.
But Statler can be pretty intense
so it does worry me that she might have something else planned.
[laughs] You're a bit sticky.
Yeah.
Understatement of the year.
Oh, wow. I think I broke a tooth.
- I think I broke a tooth. - [Dempsey laughs]
- What do you mean you've broken a tooth? - [Statler] Am I bleeding?
Is there blood?
No?
No.
Mmm.
Um...
So I brought you here today
- because it's Valentine's Day... - Yeah.
...and I... My feelings for you have increased.
You know, I wasn't expecting things to go this well.
They were going really well over texts and video chat.
[Dempsey] Mmm-hmm.
And then, you know, in person, I just expected you to,
you know, not be as amazing as you are.
And...
I love you.
Yeah, I also love you.
- Are you serious? You're sure? - [Dempsey] I'm serious.
- Yeah. - Like 100%?
100%.
- Wow, that's... - [Dempsey] Cool.
- That's romantic. - [Dempsey] It's so romantic.
- It's really romantic. - [Dempsey] Yeah.
Since we've reached the, uh... "I love you, you love me."
'Cause, like...
You know, I get home from England
and I have like a month until my lease is up.
And I'm not planning on renewing it.
So I think, like, the next step is, like...
Me moving to England.
[stammers] Maybe like move in with you.
[clears throat]
[Jupiter speaking foreign language]
[Sheila speaking English]
[Aimee interpreting in Filipino]
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[speaking Filipino]
[speaking English]
- [speaking Filipino] - [Aimee laughs]
[speaking Filipino]
[Sheila speaking Filipino]
[Aimee interpreting in Filipino]
[Aimee speaking English] That's why you become stronger.
[Sheila speaking English]
[Aimee interpreting in Filipino]
[Sheila speaking English]
[speaking Filipino]
[Aimee speaking English] How much is your salary?
[in English]
Oh!
[speaking Filipino]
[Sheila speaking Filipino]
[Jupiter] Okay.
- [Sheila speaking] - [audio fades out]
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[Jupiter speaking Filipino]
[Aimee speaking English]
[speaking Filipino]
[Sheila speaking Filipino]
[Jupiter speaking Filipino]
[Aimee speaking English]
Uh, labor, yeah.
[Aimee interpreting in Filipino]
$1,725 and 15 cents.
[Aimee interpreting in English]
[David signing]
[Aimee interpreting in Filipino]
[speaking Filipino]
[Sheila speaking Filipino]
[Jupiter speaking]
[speaking Filipino]
[Razvan speaking]
Oh?
Like, for example...
I don't know. Let's not speculate.
[Amanda] Oh, look. This is a like a stove.
[Razvan speaking]
- Your grandfather had a stove like this? - [Razvan speaking]
[Amanda] That's so cool.
Look at that little heart!
I really want to go with Amanda to Bran Castle
because it's the castle of Dracula
and it's a very beautiful place.
Um, I mean Dracula's castle...
It doesn't scream romance to me.
It's like a urban legend based off of a king
that's lived in this castle and he would, like, do really horrible things.
But I think it's romantic, just the idea and the thought that Razvan put into it.
- [Razvan exclaims] - [Amanda laughs] Stop it!
Oh, look at this torture chamber.
[Razvan] Oh, look at this.
[Amanda] Oh. Yeah!
So you sit here and you have to tell me the truth.
I always answer.
Do you think that's an interrogation question?
Yesterday, Razvan got approved for the tourist visa.
Like, it doesn't seem real.
Yeah.
Seeing him so happy just makes me happy,
but also in the back of my mind,
I'm still not 100% sure about him coming to the US so soon.
I will tell my children when I feel like they are ready.
[Razvan speaking]
I don't know.
I'm not asking you like exactly.
I have no idea when my children will be ready
'cause I haven't spoken with them yet.
And it probably will be emotional for them.
[Razvan speaking]
Exactly, I don't know.
But I want them to be 100% themselves.
I mean, that could be a possibility that they say that.
[Razvan speaking]
I don't know.
Let's no speculate.
I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to see.
Let's look and see what's in here.
I understand now that he has the visa,
he wants to know the answers to these questions.
But I've never had to figure out the proper way
to introduce a new romantic partner to my children.
And I feel like with Razvan being so pushy
and not being so understanding with that aspect of it,
he's making it more difficult for me
when it's already an extremely difficult situation to begin with.
[Razvan speaking]
You didn't even come in here yet.
My choices on waiting to tell my kids,
it has nothing to do with you.
So, the fact you still don't understand, like...
[Razvan speaking]
Okay.
Baby, I'm scared of losing you
because of your family.
What would you do if they hate me?
Have a conversation and try to work it out with them.
And you will defend me?
Well, I mean, like, I'd have to see what happened and who said what.
[Sheila speaking foreign language]
[Aimee interpreting in English]
Maybe you think she wants your money?
[Jasmine] Baby...
I feel that the conversation between Jasmine
and my cousin, Dana, could've gone a little bit better.
The good news is that Jasmine didn't blow up or anything,
but at the same time, she didn't try to make amends either.
So since things are going good between us on this trip,
this is the moment I wanna address a few concerns with Jasmine
because I don't want to do it when things are bad.
I want to do it when things are good.
[Jasmine] Aww!
[Gino] Yeah, I love it.
You're ready?
Yeah, but I wanted... I wanted to ask you something.
I know you, you know, like, after the conversation with Dana,
I'm happy that you and him were able to talk.
But one of the things I hope you...
...try harder and try to work on is
there's been times you were saying a lot of...
...not so nice things about my family and stuff.
And that my family should be less involved in my life.
And I... I just wish you wouldn't do that anymore.
You know, my family's a part of my life,
and that's not going to change for me.
I just wanted to let you know if, you know, it bothers me,
- just have a positive attitude-- - Okay, yes.
But I'm sorry. I'm working on that.
It's my anxiety. My anger issues.
It's hard to handle, and I feel that...
It's just that...
Why would you do if they hate me?
- They're not going to hate you. I know my-- - But what...
Give me an example what would you do if they hate me
even if that never happens.
What will you do?
I would talk to them.
Uh, and ask them why they feel the way they feel,
and have a conversation and try to work it out with them--
And you will defend me?
Well, I mean, like, I'd have to see what happens and who says what.
Don't worry about it. No.
[Jasmine] I'm scared of losing you because of your family.
No.
No. You shouldn't be scared like that.
No, I haven't even been to the United States,
and I just managed to make your family hate me.
No, my family doesn't hate you.
And I'm scared that they're gonna hate me because I know myself.
I'm... I'm so unstable emotionally.
I cannot manage my stupid anxiety.
I know it's a problem I have.
It has happened my whole life.
Every time I feel insecure, or threatened by people,
my way to deal with it is I put this shield
by hurting them more
than the pain they are causing to me at that moment.
But then I regret what I said because I hurt people that I love
and that I care about and then it's like double pain for me.
It is a cycle that I'm trying to break
because that's sabotaging my relationship with Gino
because of my insecurities is not doing any good to my life.
Baby, you're the only man on Earth
that has kept up with all my [bleep].
Yeah, I told you. I'm in this 100%.
Like, you're not going to be able to get rid of me.
But, yeah, my family. They're important to me.
You should be excited to meet my family.
Not threatened.
So I just want you to work on that, if you can.
Can you try?
I'm gonna work on it. Baby, I promise.
Thank you so much for being honest.
Hi, ma'am. Hi, sir. Welcome to Barcode.
What do you want to drink?
He wants beer.
- Okay, how about you, ma'am? - [Sheila speaking]
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[speaking Filipino]
[in English] She said, "What do you think about this bar?"
[in Filipino]
[speaking Filipino]
[in English] She said, "There are many girls."
[in Filipino]
[Sheila speaking English]
[Aimee speaking English]
[speaking Filipino]
[in English]
Topic.
[speaking Filipino]
[in English] For the fixing of the house,
so how will you get the money?
[Aimee speaking Filipino]
[Sheila speaking Filipino]
[in English] She said, "It's really hard.
Because she has no work and you have work.
Then for the payment and the cost, it's too much."
She's so shy about asking for it.
[Sheila speaking English]
[Aimee speaking Filipino]
[Sheila speaking English]
[in Filipino]
[Aimee speaking English] If you can't afford, don't force it.
[Aimee speaking Filipino]
[speaking Filipino]
[in English] Maybe you think she wants your money?
[speaking Filipino]
[in English] You're having thoughts?
[speaking Filipino]
[in English] "I am not want your money."
[Sheila] I don't want David thinking that I aim to his money.
I am seeing him because of money.
But I'm realizing that David doesn't have the money to support me and Jhonreil
and I have so many questions about our future.
[Aimee speaking Filipino]
You seem very upset.
I'm very upset. This is very upsetting.
I'm terrified that this could be the last straw for our relationship.
This is the thing. So, now you're questioning me
when I'm telling you the truth.
I kind of feel like we're going 'round in circles.
I did not ever, ever feel bad about being transparent
about our intimacy. Ever!
[Christian] All right. I want to tell you my side of things.
Can I just please have like an opportunity to like explain?
Okay.
I was trying to double check with you
before I said anything that would have made you uncomfortable.
But when we were on the phone, you didn't really let me speak,
and you were just telling me, "You're such a gaslighter. You're such a manipulator.
Are you a psychopath?"
I did not say, "Are you a psychopath?" I said...
- Two different people. - [scoffs]
When you say something like that,
it makes me feel like no matter what I say,
you're going to think I'm saying something in order to...
manipulate you or gaslight you.
I mean, I'm not going to be in a relationship
with someone that calls me these types of things.
I'm sorry that I did not filter myself,
but I was very upset.
I still struggle to understand
why you would hide that we had been intimate.
I honestly felt, "Oh, maybe he's not ready
to be dating somebody that is transgender and doing it publicly."
I could care about what society thinks.
I let for a brief moment what my family thought
- influence me for a very short time. - [Cleo speaking]
I'm giving you the truth here.
And this is the thing. So now you're questioning me
when I'm telling you the truth.
You seem very upset and I don't want you to get upset.
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt because I really, really care.
I'm very upset. This is very upsetting.
I did not ever, ever feel bad about being transparent about our intimacy.
- It doesn't matter-- - I kind of feel we're going 'round in circles.
I think you probably missed the fact
that I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Are you though? I don't feel like that.
I'm sorry.
I'm trying to see your perspective. You had second thoughts.
- No, I never had second thoughts ever. - [Cleo] No, no, no.
[Christian] No, no, no, no.
- No second thoughts. - That's not what I meant.
I just meant you had second thoughts
about the fact that I'd be comfortable
telling everybody that we had been intimate.
Yes. Yes.
[Christian sighs]
This was really, really, extremely rough for me today.
- And I know it was for you too. - It was for me too.
But this can make us trust each other more.
It can make us know more about each other,
and it can make our relationship stronger.
I do believe that.
I want to believe that too.
I hope you're sincere.
I am, and I honestly just want to give you a hug right now.
I'm feeling so confused right now because...
Good? Good? Good.
- Yeah. - Okay.
But I'm trying to keep the peace, shut it all down and not think about it
because I'm terrified that if I do,
it's gonna be the last straw for our relationship.
But it's really not what I want
'cause I'm invested, I'm really invested.
Hey, Jane, do you want to come back in?
- I'm sorry for just being super awkward. - [Jane] Not at all.
- Are you okay? - I'm okay.
I want... I want like a refresher.
I wanna like start anew.
Do you think that'd be something that we could maybe like
get together another time and, like, like hang out and have a pint,
- and hang out? - I mean...
I'd be happy to.
- Sure. - Awesome.
- All right. I'm just going to walk you to the door. - [Jane] Cool. Thank you.
[Christian] I really thought this was the end of our relationship.
I understand I made a mistake
in not being open about our intimacy.
But at the same time, this situation never would have happened
if we had clear communication
and from the get-go, she would've given me the benefit of the doubt.
I'm not going to hold that against her,
but going forward I really hope she understands that she can trust me.
Thanks for walking me out.
Just gonna get a car.
- Thank you for staying so late. - No worries.
How are you feeling? Just like... truly?
I...
I feel bad for him.
That he felt that he was being questioned or, you know...
I did feel that he was very defensive but also attacking
in his defense, like, as a friend,
I don't have a very good feeling about this.
And I just want you to be
kind of guarded, a little bit, maybe...
I am very worried about Cleo
after seeing Christian today.
I don't know if I believe that
it was just a simple misunderstanding,
because Christian was extremely defensive,
and this is just not how you talk to a person
you genuinely, like, respect and care about.
It more sounded like being right,
for him, is the most important thing.
Are you tired?
Yeah, very tired. Today was a long day.
We're doing good now, though, right?
Yeah.
I think so, too.
[Dempsey] I haven't asked you what happened with your ex.
Have you spoken to her?
I talked to her, like, a month ago.
[sighs]
I'm hurt.
Thought I could trust her but now I'm not so sure.
Is there anything between you guys?
So, I have a question. You don't have anything to do with this, right?
Uh...
They haven't tried to reach out to you, have they?
So, I have a question.
This is weird, I'm sorry, but...
You don't have anything to do with this, right?
Uh...
I don't know these people.
I'm thankful for you letting me know.
It's kind of freaky,
people stealing my identity, in a sense.
It's a lot.
[sighs deeply]
When Carmella tells me that
she's not involved with the scam,
I believe her because she comes off real genuine.
I feel relieved being able to remove her
from that whole scenario.
But at the same time, it really [bleep] sucks
knowing that I'm not any closer
to finding out who this person really is.
[Carmella] They haven't tried to reach out to you,
- have they? No? - Nah.
I was expecting an apology,
to get an explanation from this person, but...
And it's like...
- It's hard. - ...I have to accept that.
The way that you so badly wanted it to work out,
like, you convinced yourself,
like, you know, this person was real.
That's what I felt like I was doing,
and that's why I was still stuck on her.
But then talking to you
is 100% the confirmation I needed
that it's just a big scam.
You know what I mean? Like... [chuckles]
I hope I didn't, like, burst the fantasy.
No. Not at all.
Like, now it's like, it's like...
Not even a fantasy now. Now it's just, like, reality.
I don't know, it's complicated. [laughs]
At first I was like, "No way. I don't know this guy."
It's just, like, weird 'cause, like,
not only did he just fall in love with
the pictures, but he fell in love with this "person"
pretending to be me, so it's just...
It's a lot of mixed feelings.
But he seems like a good guy,
and I just feel sorry.
What are you thinking?
Just about everything, like... [chuckles]
This whole, like, journey, it's, like,
almost to an end now, it feels like.
You know what? I'm just gonna delete that altogether.
Block, delete, right.
Just close that chapter.
Don't stick around and see
how red the flags can get.
- Just get out. - Yeah.
That's why I wear glasses,
'cause I just be ignoring the red flags.
[both laugh]
[Carmella] But, like, don't let it stop you
from trying again.
- Thank you. - You deserve love
and happiness and all of that.
Thank you for that. [chuckles]
Carmella's telling me to be positive
and to not let the situation, you know, ruin me.
She's really sweet.
I got you something.
- This is yours. - Oh, sweet.
I didn't know what to get you.
[Tyray] Definitely feels like we're vibing,
and that's confusing, but it makes me feel good.
[Carmella] Oh, it's a candle. Thank you.
You're welcome. Glad you like it.
Thank you so much.
[Tyray] Oh, yeah, you're welcome.
So, like, are you in a relationship right now?
Um, no. Like, I just wanna live my life
and I just wanna do me.
And if I meet somebody along the way,
then I meet them.
So, like, would you wanna, like,
keep in touch and, like, be friends?
I won't do anything weird. [laughs]
[both laugh]
I... I trust you, I believe you.
I definitely wanna come back to Denver.
Yes! It's beautiful here when it's not so cold.
Maybe we can, like, hang out,
- travel somewhere. - Yeah!
Maybe up in California we can do something, so, yeah.
So, I've never been to California before.
Oh, really? Oh, yeah, definitely show you around.
I guess we'll get out of here.
Wanna do a quick water cheers?
Or you can do your wine, if you want.
I know, I think I drank all my water.
- So... - All right, cheers.
[both laugh]
[Tyray] I'm extremely, extremely glad
that I came to Denver.
I might never get the answers I was looking for.
But I realized I can't control that.
Okay.
[Carmella] Ooh.
[Tyray] The past month has been a huge whirlwind.
All the lies and exposure, and I got my heart broken.
But I feel like it's made me stronger.
Don't flip. [laughs]
[Carmella] Okay, this is it.
[Tyray chuckles] All right.
[Tyray] All right.
Thank you. I appreciate you coming.
[laughs] Nice to meet you, too.
- Thank you. - You're welcome.
- Hope you have a good night. - You too.
I think one reason I was drawn to the online relationship
with the fake Carmella
is because I didn't have the confidence
to date in the real world.
But meeting the real Carmella showed me
that I need to get out of my shell.
And I do wanna put myself out there more,
and not be so afraid. I can trust again.
And I feel more confident than ever
that someone is out there for me.
So maybe that's the closure I was looking for.
♪ I know, I know, inside you're beautiful ♪
♪ I know when the world falls down ♪
♪ It's you I have to hold ♪
[Tyray sighs] Oh, man.
Crazy. [chuckles]
Phew.
Since we've reached the, uh,
I love you, you love me,
is, like, me moving to England...
maybe, like, move in with you?
But I just think that we should, like, take things slow and...
I just have rushed in the past also,
and it's just not worked well for me for many reasons.
What about, like, just getting your own place?
Just live up the road, and then
maybe, like, six months or something?
We can hopefully then move in together
once we've known each other a little bit more and...
I don't know.
I mean, why, though? Like, what's the point?
When I'm in, I'm all in. You know, 100%.
I can't really understand why
Dempsey doesn't want me to move in with her.
She's okay with me moving to England
and living somewhere else.
But if we love each other
and are trying to have a future together,
why would I move to another country
to live in a place that's not with
the person that I'm dating?
Doesn't make any sense.
Do you feel like we really, deeply know each other enough?
I do, yeah. Do you not?
I do think that we have a lot to learn about each other.
Like, I did not know that you had cheated
until a few days ago.
Like, I don't care how long ago it was.
You... It's something that you did.
And I... I wasn't aware of that.
Yeah.
Uh...
This is what I mean about we have so much to learn about each other.
I didn't know that about you. What else am I gonna learn
about you? D'you know? Like...
I don't know. I haven't asked you
what happened with your ex, like...
Is there anything between you guys?
- There's nothing between us. - But have you spoken to her?
I mean, yeah. We talked... We talk.
[scoffs quietly]
- Yeah, we talked, like, she-- - When?
I talked to her, like, a month ago.
Why were you speaking to her a month ago?
When you're coming here to see me?
Did you wanna see her?
I'm not hiding anything from you.
[Dempsey] But you've not been... [sighs] I don't know.
[Statler] I told her I was coming to meet,
uh, my new girlfriend.
And then...
at that point she asked if, like,
she could pick me up from the airport...
and stay in a hotel together,
- just get closure. - Oh, my God.
Closure for what?
I don't know.
[Dempsey] I'm thinking of all the things
that's happened in this time.
Finding out she cheated, finding out
she'd been speaking to her ex.
I feel like I don't even know her
as well as I thought I did.
Feel a little bit sick right now.
I'm not so sure I could trust Statler, and without trust,
what's the point?
[sighs]
I don't think that we go well together.
This is very...
So, Razvan and I had a fight last night.
It was just, like, about maybe, you know, like,
me feeling like
we just are different
and, like, it's just not gonna work.
Last night, I asked Razvan
what his plan is when he comes to the United States.
He got very defensive.
He thought that I was telling him,
"You need to get a job immediately,
you need to pay half of the bills immediately."
I pay all my bills just fine without him.
But if he is coming there
I would expect him to have a plan
and be able to support himself financially,
and not just sit back and chase his dreams
while I'm supporting him, and my kids.
We have to, like, talk about
realistic expectations of when he comes to the US.
I just got this impression, like, Raznan,
if he doesn't go the US and, like, become an actor,
become, like, a singer, like, whatever he wants to do,
I feel like he just won't do it.
And to me, a man should, if he cares about
his person that he's with, his family, like,
he would do anything, like, to contribute and to help out.
I feel like he's so prideful, like, he's not gonna even try
to do something else while pursuing his dreams.
And he was like, "Oh, you just...
don't wanna, like, support me and my goals."
And it kind of, like, snowballed from there.
[Raznan sighs]
I don't know, I feel like I was...
Like, I need to not say nothing
because she has more money.
But I never asked for nothing for her.
[sighs]
I did say things that, you know, were hurtful to him.
I told him, like, I think maybe he's not the type of man
I am looking for.
Um, I'm looking for
a man that will put his pride aside
and do anything for his family.
I told him, like, when I first met Jason,
he was a manager at a restaurant,
and he, like, started here,
and he did what he had to do to, like,
provide for his family.
And Raznan was like...
didn't respond well to what I was saying.
I tell her, "Why you need to do these things?
Why you need to ruin a good night?"
And it's like she just say things
and try to find things.
And then she's sorry, but then she does again.
I just don't think that we go well together.
I mean, also too, with me, like, I feel like...
I don't know, did I get into a relationship too quickly?
And also, like,
does Raznan know how to be with someone
who still has, like, open wounds of, like,
losing a husband, and...
being, like, a widowed mom?
Like, I don't know.
Because I was thinking that
she has a difficult time with what happened.
I'm the first person he's been with since he had his heart broke,
and for me, it's like, he's the first person I'm with
after, like, a tragic event, like, in my life.
So maybe we both are, like,
broken in some ways, so, like...
we're looking for something else,
like, in the other person.
And whether it's truly there or not,
maybe we just want to see it.
I don't know, I feel like...
I don't know, is something wrong with me?
But in the right relationship...
you're not feeling this,
that there's something wrong with you.
[Cleo] Next time on Before The 90 Days...
[Sheila speaking foreign language]
[Sheila] Jhonreil and I have thought about...
But I know my son is scared.
[translator speaking foreign language]
I don't know where things are with us.
I don't even know if I'm in a relationship this morning.
Like, I have no clue.
I'm so anxious that I've sabotaged this in some way.
Hey.
It's gonna be over.
- So... - [clears throat]
How you... how are you feeling?
Um...
- Hi. - Hi.
[Riley] As much as we butt heads,
I really wanna make this work with Violet.
This is me apologizing.
But I don't know if Violet is willing
to give this another chance or not.
You are connected on a subconscious level.
- Yeah. - But Christian, you lack sensitivity.
[Cleo sobs]
If things are to not work out between us,
I don't know if I'm ready to deal with that.
Why, do you think she will be?
[Nicola speaking]
So it'll be like atomic bomb that I'm dropping on them all.
Do you think you're pregnant?
'Cause you're kinda looking like it.
When I think about my future with Jasmine,
having a child is really important to me.
[Jasmine] At this moment today, I tell you,
I don't wanna have a baby...