1 00:00:01,552 --> 00:00:03,352 We had just gotten married. 2 00:00:03,437 --> 00:00:04,687 He called our pastor, okay? 3 00:00:04,772 --> 00:00:06,388 -He said... -Come talk to this one. 4 00:00:06,474 --> 00:00:08,691 "what is wrong with her? She has just lost her mind." 5 00:00:08,776 --> 00:00:11,060 he called the pastor. I laid him out, 6 00:00:11,145 --> 00:00:13,562 laid the pastor out. I mean, anybody got in 7 00:00:13,647 --> 00:00:15,564 -my way that day, okay? -She did. 8 00:00:15,649 --> 00:00:17,483 We always find a resolve. 9 00:00:17,568 --> 00:00:20,652 Some... But some time it takes a day... 10 00:00:20,738 --> 00:00:22,788 You know, by the end of the night we're good, right? 11 00:00:22,907 --> 00:00:23,789 -Yeah... -Yeah? 12 00:00:23,908 --> 00:00:27,126 But I learned to do the "husband thing..." 13 00:00:27,244 --> 00:00:28,827 -what does that mean? -When I come back... 14 00:00:28,913 --> 00:00:30,129 -The "husband thing"? -Is... 15 00:00:30,247 --> 00:00:31,830 See, I'm still learning these new things 16 00:00:31,916 --> 00:00:35,167 I don't say anything and I listen to you. 17 00:00:35,252 --> 00:00:37,252 [theme music playing] 18 00:01:07,334 --> 00:01:08,534 [terri] they wanna know how we met. 19 00:01:08,619 --> 00:01:10,285 -[charles] how we met, okay. -That's quite a story. 20 00:01:10,371 --> 00:01:12,254 -Quite a story, okay. -[laughs] 21 00:01:12,339 --> 00:01:16,842 I'll start it, okay? I was... I was married, okay? 22 00:01:16,961 --> 00:01:20,712 And my beautiful wife had cancer. 23 00:01:20,798 --> 00:01:23,015 And she subsequently died of it. 24 00:01:23,134 --> 00:01:25,100 But before passing, 25 00:01:25,186 --> 00:01:27,886 she herself also was an ordained minister. 26 00:01:27,972 --> 00:01:31,273 And she knew... And knew, uh, 27 00:01:31,358 --> 00:01:33,609 terri, who's also an ordained minister. 28 00:01:33,694 --> 00:01:37,146 And they arranged for terri to start coming over here 29 00:01:37,231 --> 00:01:42,117 to pray with ethel during her time of illness. 30 00:01:42,203 --> 00:01:44,453 She said something very interesting to me 31 00:01:44,538 --> 00:01:45,988 after one of our meetings. 32 00:01:46,073 --> 00:01:48,957 She said, "you know, I'm really not afraid to die." 33 00:01:49,043 --> 00:01:52,744 she said, uh, 'cause I think at that point you guys been married 39 years, right? 34 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:54,163 -Thirty nine years. -Thirty nine years. 35 00:01:54,248 --> 00:01:57,299 And she said, "I've seen my children and my grandchildren." 36 00:01:57,384 --> 00:01:58,467 she said, "I'm not afraid." 37 00:01:58,552 --> 00:02:00,419 she said, "my only concern is..." 38 00:02:00,538 --> 00:02:04,006 she said is "charles and I have been together since..." 39 00:02:04,091 --> 00:02:07,793 -we were, what, how old were you? -She was 16 and I was 20. 40 00:02:07,878 --> 00:02:10,412 And 20... She said, "we've been together all our life." 41 00:02:10,514 --> 00:02:11,847 she says, and... 42 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:15,434 "I'm not sure charles will know how to live alone. 43 00:02:15,553 --> 00:02:18,303 I'm really concerned about who he would end up with." 44 00:02:18,389 --> 00:02:21,857 she said, "because... A lot of women would mistake 45 00:02:21,942 --> 00:02:23,592 his kindness for weakness." 46 00:02:23,694 --> 00:02:26,612 she said, "charles is an extremely kind person." 47 00:02:26,730 --> 00:02:30,599 she says, "I just don't want anybody to take advantage of him" 48 00:02:30,701 --> 00:02:34,102 she said, "he's very..." she kept, you know, kind of, like, 49 00:02:34,205 --> 00:02:36,121 she says, "he'll do anything, if he loves you, he will do 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,272 anything for you." 51 00:02:37,374 --> 00:02:40,876 so one time I came over right before she passed. 52 00:02:40,961 --> 00:02:44,296 And I came to the door, and that's the first interaction 53 00:02:44,415 --> 00:02:45,881 that you and I really had. 54 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:48,133 -Mmm-hmm. -Because you told me, you said, 55 00:02:48,252 --> 00:02:51,003 "I'm giving ethel a bath right now." 56 00:02:51,088 --> 00:02:54,973 he treated her with such gentleness 57 00:02:55,092 --> 00:02:57,226 and kinda talked her through it, you know, 58 00:02:57,311 --> 00:02:59,478 "honey, I've gotta move you this way, I've gotta..." 59 00:02:59,597 --> 00:03:02,064 and I helped him, and I saw, and then he picked her up, 60 00:03:02,149 --> 00:03:04,399 and he carried her into the living room, 61 00:03:04,485 --> 00:03:06,968 and he said, "you look like a queen today." 62 00:03:07,071 --> 00:03:09,688 you know, and I mean, I was almost in tears 63 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:11,473 because I just never, 64 00:03:11,575 --> 00:03:14,493 I... Then I understood what she was saying about 65 00:03:14,612 --> 00:03:17,529 his level of kindness showing, and compassion, 66 00:03:17,615 --> 00:03:19,531 and how much he loved her, you know. 67 00:03:19,617 --> 00:03:21,033 That was, like, really, really evident. 68 00:03:21,118 --> 00:03:24,753 I spent time with some great mentors 69 00:03:24,838 --> 00:03:29,625 and watched how they interacted with their wives. 70 00:03:30,010 --> 00:03:31,260 How... 71 00:03:32,296 --> 00:03:33,995 What sacrifice looked like 72 00:03:34,098 --> 00:03:36,248 because sometimes we think sacrifice is so painful 73 00:03:36,350 --> 00:03:37,683 all the time, and it is not. 74 00:03:37,801 --> 00:03:39,434 Sometimes it's just saying, 75 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,836 "wait a minute, I'm just not gonna make me 76 00:03:41,939 --> 00:03:43,171 the number one priority right now, 77 00:03:43,274 --> 00:03:44,856 I'm gonna make what she wants, 78 00:03:45,643 --> 00:03:47,509 or needs, the greatest priority." 79 00:03:47,611 --> 00:03:49,027 if you learn to serve, you're not gonna be 80 00:03:49,146 --> 00:03:51,780 disappointed if you believe that's in the job description. 81 00:03:51,865 --> 00:03:54,700 -And it's not about... It just wasn't about me. -Mmm. 82 00:03:55,452 --> 00:03:57,286 Taking that serving attitude 83 00:03:57,371 --> 00:04:00,289 I think has been one of the greatest components to 84 00:04:00,374 --> 00:04:02,040 us having success even to this point. 85 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:03,959 -[laughs] -mmm-hmm. Mmm-hmm. 86 00:04:04,044 --> 00:04:06,211 The thing that I pride myself on 87 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:08,029 is that I know her. 88 00:04:08,132 --> 00:04:09,298 [softly] he knows me. 89 00:04:09,383 --> 00:04:12,217 I've taken the time to know her. 90 00:04:12,336 --> 00:04:14,052 [in normal voice] he is great 91 00:04:14,171 --> 00:04:17,306 at paying attention to details 92 00:04:17,391 --> 00:04:19,725 and it makes a real difference. 93 00:04:19,843 --> 00:04:22,060 So the work for me is, 94 00:04:22,846 --> 00:04:24,096 is, if I love her 95 00:04:24,181 --> 00:04:26,898 then it has to be... It has to be lived out. 96 00:04:27,017 --> 00:04:29,551 So the way that I live it out is 97 00:04:29,653 --> 00:04:33,155 I try to get to know you so I know what makes you tick, 98 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,723 what sets you off 99 00:04:34,825 --> 00:04:38,443 and I try to love you the way that you want to be loved. 100 00:04:38,529 --> 00:04:39,995 -Um... -Yes. 101 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,897 I try, I'm not perfect at it by any stretch of imagination but 102 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,734 my growth for me was that moment where 103 00:04:45,836 --> 00:04:49,070 I just recognized that she's a completely different person. 104 00:04:49,173 --> 00:04:51,957 We don't think the same, we are night and day 105 00:04:52,042 --> 00:04:52,958 on a lot of stuff. 106 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:54,793 I'm always hot, she's always cold. 107 00:04:54,878 --> 00:04:56,128 -Um... -[laughs] 108 00:04:56,213 --> 00:04:57,346 -[softly] yes. -Yeah. 109 00:04:57,431 --> 00:04:59,514 Dual climate in the car was the best thing 110 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,134 -they ever invented. Um... -[deshun laughs] 111 00:05:02,219 --> 00:05:04,686 but for me, the growth moment is 112 00:05:04,772 --> 00:05:06,438 recognizing and respecting 113 00:05:06,557 --> 00:05:08,140 and loving that she's a different person 114 00:05:08,225 --> 00:05:09,524 and that it takes, 115 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:12,194 it takes effort or energy and work 116 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,096 to learn to speak her language to love her because 117 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:17,265 it's not my default. 118 00:05:17,368 --> 00:05:20,652 -What I default to, don't do it for her. -Yes. 119 00:05:20,738 --> 00:05:23,271 I started to acknowledge a little bit before 120 00:05:23,374 --> 00:05:26,541 when I was preparing to, kind of be in a long-term relationship 121 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,460 that, um... 122 00:05:29,713 --> 00:05:32,331 I can have, like, control issues sometimes. 123 00:05:32,416 --> 00:05:33,965 -[scoffs] -um... 124 00:05:34,084 --> 00:05:37,502 I've really accepted that, 125 00:05:37,588 --> 00:05:39,471 that is an area of growth for me. 126 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:41,340 I've learned that in this marriage 127 00:05:41,425 --> 00:05:46,345 as I have attempted again to step back 128 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:50,799 and the energy that that takes for me to zip this thing up 129 00:05:50,901 --> 00:05:53,151 and allow him to do those things 130 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:54,803 that he does so wonderfully. 131 00:05:54,905 --> 00:05:57,989 So I've learned to, you know, recognize 132 00:05:58,108 --> 00:06:00,141 and to be able to articulate to him 133 00:06:00,244 --> 00:06:02,310 when I want to take something over. 134 00:06:02,413 --> 00:06:04,830 Like my control, when I wanna take it off, I have to say, 135 00:06:04,948 --> 00:06:07,866 "oh, I wanna take that from you right now, oh, I do but... 136 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:09,150 Do it, okay, just do it." 137 00:06:09,253 --> 00:06:10,752 you know, and I have to verbalize. 138 00:06:10,838 --> 00:06:13,705 We've learnt to have a lot of humor 139 00:06:13,791 --> 00:06:15,040 about our faults. 140 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:18,043 Before, marriage was a fantasy. 141 00:06:18,128 --> 00:06:21,179 Like, "oh, this would be great to do and to have." 142 00:06:21,298 --> 00:06:25,016 but that, kind of, I'm truly... I've learnt, 143 00:06:25,135 --> 00:06:27,853 like I'm really committed to this thing and to him. 144 00:06:27,971 --> 00:06:30,272 And I can't imagine my life without him. 145 00:06:30,357 --> 00:06:34,142 And I'm not... I'm not willing to let this go. 146 00:06:34,645 --> 00:06:37,312 My prior relationships 147 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:39,948 were my greatest teacher 148 00:06:40,651 --> 00:06:42,851 coming in to this marriage. 149 00:06:42,953 --> 00:06:46,538 Because... Just because you've had relationships 150 00:06:46,657 --> 00:06:48,740 that don't work, 151 00:06:48,826 --> 00:06:52,577 it doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you 152 00:06:52,663 --> 00:06:55,881 there may just be, perhaps, areas where you need to grow. 153 00:06:55,999 --> 00:06:58,867 So you have a choice when a relationship ends 154 00:06:58,969 --> 00:07:00,385 how you want to handle it. 155 00:07:00,504 --> 00:07:02,220 Whether it can be a painful experience 156 00:07:02,339 --> 00:07:04,256 or powerful lesson in your life. 157 00:07:04,341 --> 00:07:07,058 And repeatedly for me, I chose that 158 00:07:07,177 --> 00:07:11,096 those relationships would be a powerful lesson in my life. 159 00:07:11,181 --> 00:07:15,934 So I learned about service, I learned about selflessness, 160 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:18,270 I learned about compromise, 161 00:07:18,355 --> 00:07:20,655 I learned about internal happiness 162 00:07:20,741 --> 00:07:22,574 and how it would come from me. 163 00:07:22,693 --> 00:07:24,826 I always tell him, "you met me at the perfect time." 164 00:07:24,912 --> 00:07:28,280 because I had grown and I had evolved so much 165 00:07:28,365 --> 00:07:31,283 and I was ready, willing, and capable 166 00:07:31,368 --> 00:07:35,904 to give the type of love that I wanted to receive from my husband. 167 00:07:36,006 --> 00:07:39,257 My wife, ethel, had a mother and a brother 168 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:42,260 that had suffered severe, uh, strokes. 169 00:07:42,379 --> 00:07:43,678 So she said to me, 170 00:07:43,764 --> 00:07:46,798 "I don't wanna have a stroke, if I do, then, you know" 171 00:07:46,884 --> 00:07:48,583 -I'm not, I don't--" -"pray me outta here." 172 00:07:48,685 --> 00:07:52,187 -"I don't wanna be--" -that's what she said, "pray me outta here." right? 173 00:07:52,272 --> 00:07:56,358 So, she had a stroke in the midst of everything that was going on. 174 00:07:56,443 --> 00:07:59,644 But she didn't really know that she had. 175 00:07:59,730 --> 00:08:01,646 By that time we had brought 176 00:08:01,732 --> 00:08:04,599 -a hospice situation and everything. -Yeah. 177 00:08:04,701 --> 00:08:07,652 So I said to her, "you're here because of the stroke." 178 00:08:07,738 --> 00:08:09,538 and when I said that, her whole face, 179 00:08:09,623 --> 00:08:10,872 her whole demeanor changed. 180 00:08:10,958 --> 00:08:12,491 She says, "oh, no." 181 00:08:12,576 --> 00:08:15,109 she's like, "I'm outta here." 182 00:08:15,212 --> 00:08:19,447 -but when I came over, she was smiling, okay? -Yeah. Mmm-hmm. 183 00:08:19,550 --> 00:08:22,667 I'm serious, this woman was on morphine, 184 00:08:22,753 --> 00:08:26,221 she had cancer that's spread everywhere, 185 00:08:26,306 --> 00:08:29,724 and she had a stroke, and she was smiling, okay? 186 00:08:29,810 --> 00:08:31,459 And I mean, I was in ministry and I still, 187 00:08:31,562 --> 00:08:33,294 that was, like, way over my head. 188 00:08:33,397 --> 00:08:35,146 And she said, uh, 189 00:08:35,766 --> 00:08:36,798 "oh, that's easy." 190 00:08:36,900 --> 00:08:38,132 she said, "that's easy." 191 00:08:38,235 --> 00:08:42,303 she said, "I've had 39 years with the best man 192 00:08:42,406 --> 00:08:43,855 than any woman..." 193 00:08:43,941 --> 00:08:45,473 no, she said, 194 00:08:45,576 --> 00:08:48,076 "women wish they would have one year 195 00:08:48,161 --> 00:08:50,328 of what I've had for 39 years." 196 00:08:50,447 --> 00:08:51,913 she said, "I've seen my children 197 00:08:51,999 --> 00:08:53,698 and I've seen my grandchildren." 198 00:08:53,784 --> 00:08:56,167 she said, "and now I'm going home. 199 00:08:56,286 --> 00:08:58,503 -Promise me you'll take care of my family." -take care of my family. 200 00:08:58,622 --> 00:09:00,755 "just take care of them for me," you know. 201 00:09:00,841 --> 00:09:02,424 She said, 'cause, you know, 202 00:09:02,509 --> 00:09:04,926 and as soon as she passed, her daughter, 203 00:09:05,012 --> 00:09:08,046 -she just had a complete walking nervous breakdown. -Yeah, she did. 204 00:09:08,131 --> 00:09:11,266 So we talked from time to time until she finally 205 00:09:11,351 --> 00:09:14,352 -began to come out of it. -Mmm-hmm. 206 00:09:14,471 --> 00:09:17,171 So, a year later, it was my birthday. 207 00:09:17,274 --> 00:09:18,523 -Yeah. -Yeah. 208 00:09:18,642 --> 00:09:20,392 A year later it was her birthday and my daughter 209 00:09:20,477 --> 00:09:22,343 that she just mentioned, she said, 210 00:09:22,446 --> 00:09:25,179 "dad, you need to do something nice for miss terri." 211 00:09:25,282 --> 00:09:28,733 I don't know if... If I could ever, 212 00:09:28,819 --> 00:09:31,736 if I could ever be with someone who didn't, 213 00:09:31,822 --> 00:09:33,238 you know, who didn't really run off at the mouth. 214 00:09:33,323 --> 00:09:35,607 You know what I'm saying? Like... 215 00:09:35,709 --> 00:09:37,158 My daughter gave me a list of things. 216 00:09:37,244 --> 00:09:39,944 And on the list was white gold hoop earrings. 217 00:09:40,047 --> 00:09:41,546 And so I said, "I can do that." 218 00:09:41,632 --> 00:09:43,081 you know, I buy jewelry for my wife 219 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:44,249 all the time, I can do that. 220 00:09:44,334 --> 00:09:46,501 And, boy, what did I do that for? 221 00:09:46,587 --> 00:09:48,336 I bought those white gold earrings 222 00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:50,622 and so now I gotta figure out a way to get them to her, okay? 223 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:51,673 So my daughter said, 224 00:09:51,758 --> 00:09:53,558 "well, take her to lunch or something." 225 00:09:53,644 --> 00:09:56,061 anyway, I called her, she's in... 226 00:09:56,146 --> 00:09:57,629 -Uh, atlanta. -Atlanta. I was in atlanta. 227 00:09:57,731 --> 00:09:58,730 She was in atlanta, 228 00:09:58,815 --> 00:10:00,965 ministering, preaching somewhere in atlanta. 229 00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:02,851 She said she won't be in town till Monday. 230 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:04,636 So I said, "okay, I'll pick you up at the airport." 231 00:10:04,738 --> 00:10:06,938 she said, "no, no, no, no, no, I don't need you to pick me up." 232 00:10:07,024 --> 00:10:08,189 she kept going back and forth. 233 00:10:08,275 --> 00:10:09,474 I finally talked her into letting me 234 00:10:09,576 --> 00:10:10,575 pick her up at the airport. 235 00:10:10,661 --> 00:10:11,943 So I picked her up at the airport-- 236 00:10:12,029 --> 00:10:14,079 and what you didn't know 237 00:10:14,164 --> 00:10:16,781 is that, that was one of my things. 238 00:10:16,867 --> 00:10:19,584 Being single, 'cause I've been single for 25 years. 239 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:22,153 I've been a widow and I raised my two daughters 240 00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:24,822 without my husband, he also died of cancer. 241 00:10:24,925 --> 00:10:27,626 And, uh, the only thing that ever bothered me 242 00:10:27,711 --> 00:10:29,094 about being single 243 00:10:29,179 --> 00:10:31,429 was coming back through the airport 244 00:10:31,515 --> 00:10:33,131 and you would see people, like, waiting, 245 00:10:33,216 --> 00:10:35,383 "oh, hey, welcome home! Welcome home." 246 00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:37,636 and I'd always be standing there, you know, 247 00:10:37,721 --> 00:10:40,505 and call a car, you know, and go home. 248 00:10:40,607 --> 00:10:44,008 So he didn't know but when he came to meet me at the airport, 249 00:10:44,111 --> 00:10:46,611 it was like a thing for me, you know, 250 00:10:46,697 --> 00:10:48,346 look at me, somebody's 251 00:10:48,448 --> 00:10:51,066 -picking me up at the airport. -[laughs] 252 00:10:51,151 --> 00:10:53,652 but I didn't say that, I was cool. 253 00:10:53,737 --> 00:10:55,403 So I picked her up at the airport. 254 00:10:55,489 --> 00:10:57,739 -I take her to berkley spa. -And dropped me off. 255 00:10:57,824 --> 00:11:00,625 And I said, "listen, I have a treatment package 256 00:11:00,711 --> 00:11:01,693 for you at berkley. 257 00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:03,912 Go in and take the treatment, 258 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:05,697 and then call me when you're done." 259 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:07,082 she says, "oh, oh, oh, okay." 260 00:11:07,167 --> 00:11:08,500 -she says, "all right!" -[laughs] 261 00:11:08,585 --> 00:11:10,919 she goes in berkley and about 30 minutes later 262 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:12,036 she comes calling me. 263 00:11:12,139 --> 00:11:14,005 She says, "I'm done." I said, "done with what?" 264 00:11:14,091 --> 00:11:15,840 she said, "well, I got a facial." 265 00:11:15,926 --> 00:11:18,376 -I said, "no, no, you gotta--" -I got a massage. 266 00:11:18,478 --> 00:11:21,012 -A 30 minute massage. -Whatever you got. I said, "no, no, you gotta 267 00:11:21,098 --> 00:11:22,931 full package, go back in there-- 268 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:24,849 you gotta go in and use everything that's in that 269 00:11:24,935 --> 00:11:26,651 package, okay?" she said, "really?" 270 00:11:26,737 --> 00:11:28,153 I said, "yeah." 271 00:11:28,238 --> 00:11:30,689 I said, "you better go back in there and use that thing." 272 00:11:30,774 --> 00:11:33,274 -she said, "okay." -I didn't know, okay? 273 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,943 I wasn't a spa person. 274 00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:36,394 [both laugh] 275 00:11:36,496 --> 00:11:39,864 so a couple hours later she calls, she says, "wow!" 276 00:11:39,950 --> 00:11:41,232 [both laugh] 277 00:11:41,334 --> 00:11:42,534 so I pick her up and we go 278 00:11:42,619 --> 00:11:44,369 to get something to eat after that. 279 00:11:44,454 --> 00:11:47,205 -So we went to the restaurant in santa monica. -And then I told you 280 00:11:47,290 --> 00:11:48,506 in that restaurant I said, 281 00:11:48,592 --> 00:11:50,625 "you know what, I'm just gonna be straight with you. 282 00:11:50,711 --> 00:11:53,545 If I don't go on another date for another 20 years 283 00:11:53,630 --> 00:11:56,047 this is the one." okay? [laughs] 284 00:11:56,133 --> 00:11:57,849 I said, "everything would else 285 00:11:57,934 --> 00:12:00,301 have to measure up to this one, okay?" 286 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:01,970 there's probably not a day that's gone by 287 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:03,588 that I haven't laughed. 288 00:12:03,690 --> 00:12:08,143 And even in my mad moments, I've still laughed. 289 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:09,978 [zena laughs] 290 00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:11,596 -I make you happy? -You do. 291 00:12:11,698 --> 00:12:13,648 -[softly] yay! -[laughs] 292 00:12:13,734 --> 00:12:17,869 um, it's just something about her that 293 00:12:19,122 --> 00:12:20,789 never gets old to me. 294 00:12:21,541 --> 00:12:22,490 And... 295 00:12:23,293 --> 00:12:26,578 You know, I could go through a list of things 296 00:12:26,663 --> 00:12:28,379 from... From her beauty... 297 00:12:28,465 --> 00:12:30,749 From her sassy attitude... 298 00:12:30,834 --> 00:12:34,169 To her, you know, her organization skills... 299 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:36,838 To her style, her way with, with... 300 00:12:36,923 --> 00:12:40,508 With the household, with the kids, with me. 301 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:42,393 Um... 302 00:12:42,479 --> 00:12:46,014 The way she is about that, the woman that she is 303 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:48,683 for me, it just, it never gets old to me. 304 00:12:48,769 --> 00:12:50,968 It never, like, you know, she would just, 305 00:12:51,071 --> 00:12:52,470 you know, she would just be walking by 306 00:12:52,572 --> 00:12:54,405 you know, still gotta touch on her or something, just... 307 00:12:54,491 --> 00:12:55,857 -[laughs] -...Grab her butt. 308 00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:57,408 She'll be like, "you're such a pervert." 309 00:12:57,494 --> 00:12:59,077 "I just like it," you know what I mean? 310 00:12:59,162 --> 00:13:01,079 It's just something about it and... 311 00:13:01,164 --> 00:13:03,581 And... And her energy, 312 00:13:03,667 --> 00:13:09,320 um, her spicy energy is... Is fun. 313 00:13:09,422 --> 00:13:12,824 I don't know if... If I could ever... 314 00:13:12,926 --> 00:13:15,760 If I could ever be with someone who didn't, 315 00:13:15,846 --> 00:13:17,796 you know, who didn't really run off at the mouth. 316 00:13:17,881 --> 00:13:18,963 You know what I'm saying? Like... 317 00:13:19,049 --> 00:13:21,049 Who didn't really, like, 318 00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:22,667 -who didn't-- -and tank always says I'm a kid. 319 00:13:22,769 --> 00:13:23,968 He's like, "you're such a kid." 320 00:13:24,054 --> 00:13:25,770 'cause I be joking all the time. 321 00:13:25,856 --> 00:13:28,473 She just be going and she just randomly like, digging my nose. 322 00:13:28,558 --> 00:13:30,391 I'm like, "what are you doing? I wanna sleep!" 323 00:13:30,477 --> 00:13:32,644 -and try to put it in my mouth -I like to play. 324 00:13:32,729 --> 00:13:35,814 I'm like, "what are you doing? You can't do that." 325 00:13:35,899 --> 00:13:37,949 -I'm a grown woman but I like to play. -[laughing] 326 00:13:38,034 --> 00:13:39,651 people laugh all the time 'cause 327 00:13:39,736 --> 00:13:41,069 we play video games together, like... 328 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:43,020 When he met me, I was playing halo 329 00:13:43,123 --> 00:13:44,021 and doing all these things 330 00:13:44,124 --> 00:13:45,490 and he was like, "you play halo?" 331 00:13:45,575 --> 00:13:47,692 -yeah I play halo, I play halo. -It's very sexy by the way. 332 00:13:47,794 --> 00:13:49,327 -He would be at practice-- -just wanted to say. 333 00:13:49,412 --> 00:13:50,829 And he'd come home and I'd be like, 334 00:13:50,914 --> 00:13:52,247 "get some!" like, yelling at 335 00:13:52,332 --> 00:13:53,832 -some six-year-old on the-- -she'd be online 336 00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:55,032 -with the headset on... -[laughs] 337 00:13:55,135 --> 00:13:56,033 controller in her hand, 338 00:13:56,136 --> 00:13:57,752 like, annihilating these 339 00:13:57,838 --> 00:13:59,420 people online and I'm like... 340 00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:03,374 -"this is sexy!" I'm like... -[laughs] 341 00:14:03,476 --> 00:14:06,261 this is... This a whole another level of-- 342 00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:08,479 but that's what, you have to find something in common because... 343 00:14:08,565 --> 00:14:09,647 I'm so aroused right now. 344 00:14:09,733 --> 00:14:12,433 If I didn't like video games and he liked video games 345 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,686 as much as we play together, if he was just doing that 346 00:14:14,771 --> 00:14:16,571 by himself, I would be so annoyed. 347 00:14:17,157 --> 00:14:19,107 I needed someone 348 00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:21,943 -who can roll with me. -Yeah. 349 00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:23,494 Whatever that is for anybody. 350 00:14:23,580 --> 00:14:26,497 -Whatever that means to you in your relationship. -Yeah. 351 00:14:26,583 --> 00:14:28,900 You need somebody who can roll with you. 352 00:14:29,002 --> 00:14:30,118 And vice versa. 353 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:32,003 Communication is very important. 354 00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:35,540 However, you can't go 355 00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:38,009 -and force it, right? -Mmm-mmm. 356 00:14:38,094 --> 00:14:40,411 -"no, we gonna talk, we gonna talk, now!" -mmm-mmm. 357 00:14:40,513 --> 00:14:42,347 Or "we gonna talk in this environment." 358 00:14:42,432 --> 00:14:46,517 -or "we gonna talk under these circumstances." -the old me. 359 00:14:46,603 --> 00:14:48,019 I would have to say the key to our marriage 360 00:14:48,104 --> 00:14:49,304 is communication. 361 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,756 -Period. No cliche. -Open communication, all the time. 362 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:53,758 And he might get irritated with me 363 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:55,727 'cause I like to communicate a lot. 364 00:14:55,812 --> 00:14:57,028 [laughs] 365 00:14:57,113 --> 00:14:59,364 but I really feel like that's how we've made it this far. 366 00:14:59,449 --> 00:15:01,900 That's how we've made it 20 years. 367 00:15:01,985 --> 00:15:03,651 -Yeah. -Between friendship 368 00:15:03,737 --> 00:15:05,436 and being together and breaking up 369 00:15:05,538 --> 00:15:08,039 and being back together and marriage and kids. 370 00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:10,708 It's always been communication. 371 00:15:10,794 --> 00:15:12,911 -Yeah. We like, we-- -I'mma talk... I like to talk things out. 372 00:15:12,996 --> 00:15:15,079 -Oh yeah. She, she-- -he be so irritated. 373 00:15:15,165 --> 00:15:17,715 Yeah, she doesn't... She do like 374 00:15:17,801 --> 00:15:20,468 eighty sets of jaw lifts. 375 00:15:21,171 --> 00:15:23,120 -[both laugh] -shut up. 376 00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:24,339 Oh, she gonna talk. 377 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:25,890 [both laugh] 378 00:15:25,976 --> 00:15:27,592 um... 379 00:15:27,677 --> 00:15:30,461 And I think, you know, us learning each other 380 00:15:30,563 --> 00:15:33,297 in that... In that space of communication like, 381 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,433 she has to communicate now. 382 00:15:35,518 --> 00:15:37,101 -She gotta get it out now. -Yeah, I can't wait. 383 00:15:37,187 --> 00:15:38,970 If something bothers me, I gotta say it. 384 00:15:39,072 --> 00:15:41,439 She gotta get it off her chest. 385 00:15:41,524 --> 00:15:43,441 You know what I mean? And depending on what it is, 386 00:15:43,526 --> 00:15:45,142 what type of situation it is, 387 00:15:45,245 --> 00:15:46,577 -for me-- -that is one thing that I have 388 00:15:46,663 --> 00:15:48,112 learnt in marriage, I will say that 389 00:15:48,198 --> 00:15:49,647 I'm trying to get better about that. 390 00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:50,949 Yeah, I like to-- 391 00:15:51,034 --> 00:15:54,485 -is that a "yeah, I am" or... -Yeah, you are. Um... 392 00:15:54,587 --> 00:15:57,038 -I remember one particular time that we disagreed... -Yeah. 393 00:15:57,123 --> 00:15:58,172 [clears throat] 394 00:15:58,291 --> 00:16:00,925 and I think this was earlier in our relationship. 395 00:16:01,011 --> 00:16:03,878 We had a big argument and he left. 396 00:16:03,964 --> 00:16:06,881 I was like, "oh no, you're not gonna leave this argument. 397 00:16:06,967 --> 00:16:08,766 -We gonna talk this out." -[laughs] 398 00:16:08,852 --> 00:16:11,769 -I followed him two blocks... -[laughs] 399 00:16:11,855 --> 00:16:13,972 and he called my mother. 400 00:16:14,057 --> 00:16:15,940 -I called her mom. -He called my mom! 401 00:16:16,026 --> 00:16:17,892 "can you tell your daughter 402 00:16:17,978 --> 00:16:19,360 -to go back in the house?" -[laughs] 403 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,981 we in the street, okay, mind you and I'm-- 404 00:16:23,066 --> 00:16:25,616 "you bring your butt--" you know, I just was like, 405 00:16:25,702 --> 00:16:27,452 and my mom said, 406 00:16:27,537 --> 00:16:29,737 he handed the phone to me and my mom said, 407 00:16:29,823 --> 00:16:31,823 "led, go home." 408 00:16:31,908 --> 00:16:34,792 and then all of a sudden, this big, 409 00:16:34,878 --> 00:16:36,694 I just felt, I felt like a big pain, 410 00:16:36,796 --> 00:16:38,496 like my heart was breaking. 411 00:16:38,581 --> 00:16:42,467 And I said, "but he... He may not come back." 412 00:16:42,552 --> 00:16:43,584 mmm. 413 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:46,137 And he turned around and he heard it 414 00:16:46,723 --> 00:16:48,006 and I just start crying. 415 00:16:48,091 --> 00:16:50,041 I'm getting emotional, jesus. 416 00:16:50,143 --> 00:16:51,976 And my mom said, 417 00:16:52,062 --> 00:16:53,761 "led, go, just go home." 418 00:16:53,847 --> 00:16:55,980 and he looked at me, like... It's like he... 419 00:16:56,066 --> 00:16:58,066 Something clicked for him, and he said, 420 00:16:58,518 --> 00:16:59,517 he said, 421 00:16:59,602 --> 00:17:02,386 "I'm gonna come back, I just need a minute." 422 00:17:02,489 --> 00:17:04,939 so I said, "okay, I'mma go back home." 423 00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:07,608 but I was still mad, but I'm just saying 424 00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:10,111 when he said, "I'm gonna come back." 425 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:13,865 that's when I was like, okay, that... 426 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:17,068 We can disagree, it's okay to disagree... 427 00:17:17,153 --> 00:17:19,353 -Why am I bawling? -Want me to get you a tissue? 428 00:17:19,456 --> 00:17:20,922 It's okay to disagree 429 00:17:22,592 --> 00:17:24,008 and it won't break us. 430 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:26,210 -You know, we can... -Mmm-hmm. 431 00:17:26,296 --> 00:17:28,296 I can be different and not agree with him 432 00:17:28,882 --> 00:17:30,131 and it won't end this. 433 00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:33,584 So that was... That was a learning moment for me 434 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:36,687 -and, where I... I didn't have to change... -Yeah. 435 00:17:36,773 --> 00:17:40,191 ...Myself to be in a relationship with someone. 436 00:17:40,276 --> 00:17:42,760 We are definitely a open book. 437 00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:46,064 In this house, everything is open. 438 00:17:46,149 --> 00:17:48,766 -Yeah. -You know, I like it to be that way. 439 00:17:48,868 --> 00:17:49,901 I want no surprises. 440 00:17:49,986 --> 00:17:51,435 Like... Let's talk about it, 441 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:52,487 how we feeling. 442 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:55,490 But I know my husband and, like, he knows me. 443 00:17:55,592 --> 00:17:58,409 If he get too quiet, I know he ain't settled with something. 444 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:01,445 But now I know to wait 445 00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:04,082 -for him to talk about it. -That is like 446 00:18:04,167 --> 00:18:05,950 the blessing in all of this. 447 00:18:06,052 --> 00:18:08,052 Like learning how to 448 00:18:08,838 --> 00:18:09,954 be patient, like, 449 00:18:10,056 --> 00:18:11,556 because you hear a lot of times when they say, 450 00:18:11,641 --> 00:18:13,925 "what is the key to a successful marriage?" 451 00:18:14,010 --> 00:18:15,676 and the first thing, "communication." 452 00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:18,262 -it's the patience to communicate. -But it's... Yeah! 453 00:18:18,348 --> 00:18:19,597 -It is... Yeah... -[laughs] 454 00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:21,482 communication is very important. 455 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:24,569 However, you can't go 456 00:18:24,654 --> 00:18:26,604 -and force it, right? -Mmm-mmm. 457 00:18:26,689 --> 00:18:29,306 -"now, we gonna talk, we gonna talk, now!" -mmm-mmm. 458 00:18:29,409 --> 00:18:31,275 Or "we gonna talk in this environment." 459 00:18:31,361 --> 00:18:34,328 -or "we gonna talk under these circumstances." -the old me. 460 00:18:35,331 --> 00:18:38,149 -Yeah. -I think that that is a very 461 00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:41,619 important part that we often times leave out. 462 00:18:41,704 --> 00:18:43,921 You can say and do things that you can't come back from. 463 00:18:44,541 --> 00:18:45,873 You know what I mean? And... 464 00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:49,460 She goes to such a hot place, 465 00:18:49,546 --> 00:18:52,046 we both can't be hot at the same time. 466 00:18:52,132 --> 00:18:54,715 You know what I'm saying? We have to-- there has to be 467 00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:56,050 this, you know what I'm saying? 468 00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:58,936 And then maybe at some point I can get a little bit 469 00:18:59,022 --> 00:19:00,638 down here, maybe? 470 00:19:00,723 --> 00:19:03,007 But you know, um, 471 00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:05,676 we're learning that, and she's becoming more, 472 00:19:05,778 --> 00:19:06,944 um... 473 00:19:07,947 --> 00:19:10,314 Um, more understanding and letting me just have 474 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,899 just a little space 475 00:19:12,569 --> 00:19:13,651 to gather my thoughts. 476 00:19:13,736 --> 00:19:15,286 You know what I mean? And gather my words 477 00:19:15,371 --> 00:19:17,455 and then she's becoming better about 478 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:20,908 not just blurting her words out. 479 00:19:21,794 --> 00:19:24,328 -Which are very-- -very what? 480 00:19:25,248 --> 00:19:27,415 -Aggressive. -[both laugh] 481 00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:32,336 -but it comes from a good place. -Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 482 00:19:32,422 --> 00:19:33,804 -[laughs] -yeah, yeah. 483 00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:35,673 It comes from the heart. 484 00:19:35,758 --> 00:19:38,643 -I got a smart mouth. That's the problem. -[both laughing] 485 00:19:39,646 --> 00:19:42,980 usually I go on, what I called a "thought path" 486 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:44,182 that I walk out 487 00:19:44,267 --> 00:19:45,683 and it's usually the same route. 488 00:19:45,768 --> 00:19:48,819 I'll walk around the corner, go here, go there 489 00:19:48,905 --> 00:19:49,720 and thinking. 490 00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:51,388 And a lot of times I'm out there 491 00:19:51,491 --> 00:19:53,274 saying all the stuff that I can't say to you. 492 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,275 [both laugh] 493 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:55,660 that's why I can't have her following me. 494 00:19:55,745 --> 00:19:57,995 That's what he was explaining, "I need that time." 495 00:19:58,081 --> 00:20:00,031 so I need to go say all of these things 496 00:20:00,116 --> 00:20:01,999 out loud or think it through 497 00:20:02,085 --> 00:20:04,869 and then I say, "you know, I'm glad I didn't say this. 498 00:20:04,954 --> 00:20:07,538 This was kinda wrong that I did do this. 499 00:20:07,624 --> 00:20:09,740 Maybe I overreacted on that." 500 00:20:09,842 --> 00:20:11,709 and then I can come back to her 501 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:14,295 without me just going, you know, you're just 502 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:16,180 going off the rails and no one gets hurt. 503 00:20:16,266 --> 00:20:18,549 So, I'm more of that, you know, 504 00:20:18,635 --> 00:20:20,468 I sit back and try to do that. 505 00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:23,387 Then once she got that, she'll let me do that. 506 00:20:23,473 --> 00:20:25,723 And it's usually one of us 507 00:20:25,808 --> 00:20:27,424 -texting each other, like... -Yeah. 508 00:20:27,527 --> 00:20:29,527 And that's when you know... "hey, you hungry?" 509 00:20:29,612 --> 00:20:31,696 -[both laugh] -everyone laughs at us. 510 00:20:31,781 --> 00:20:33,231 I'm like-- [growls] 511 00:20:33,316 --> 00:20:35,366 -you hungry? You want something to eat? -You hungry? We do that 512 00:20:35,451 --> 00:20:36,867 "I just made this, I just had..." 513 00:20:36,953 --> 00:20:39,203 and that's... That was how, um... 514 00:20:39,289 --> 00:20:41,489 -We were learning how to... -...Growing in the marriage. 515 00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:43,207 -Marriage. -And in the relationship. 516 00:20:43,293 --> 00:20:45,159 She'll tell you right now, whenever we get into 517 00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:47,712 a discussion, a debate or... 518 00:20:48,548 --> 00:20:50,047 -A argument. -A argument. 519 00:20:50,133 --> 00:20:51,666 -[both laugh] -okay. Okay. 520 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:55,119 She'll tell you, I'm like a water off a duck's back. 521 00:20:55,221 --> 00:20:56,504 I don't let it stick with me. 522 00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,055 Okay. And... Whenever there's a... 523 00:20:58,141 --> 00:20:59,724 Like if we were planning to do something earlier 524 00:20:59,809 --> 00:21:01,092 and an argument, some come up, 525 00:21:01,177 --> 00:21:02,393 after it's over, I say, 526 00:21:02,478 --> 00:21:04,295 "okay, baby, I'm sorry. Let's go do whatever, whatever. 527 00:21:04,397 --> 00:21:05,396 Okay, let's go to the movie." 528 00:21:05,481 --> 00:21:08,015 and I go with him, I don't hold grudges either. 529 00:21:08,101 --> 00:21:10,067 -That has been our saving grace. -Yeah. 530 00:21:10,153 --> 00:21:13,237 You know what, we can have a knockdown drag out, 531 00:21:13,323 --> 00:21:15,940 you know, you can hear us down the street, okay? 532 00:21:16,025 --> 00:21:18,526 And afterwards, "okay, we still going to the movies?" 533 00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:20,528 -I say, "yeah, I've been dying to see that picture." -yeah. 534 00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,580 -You know, like, you know. We know... -Like, it's over. 535 00:21:22,665 --> 00:21:23,614 It's always over. 536 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,283 We let it go because 537 00:21:25,368 --> 00:21:27,868 -I'm just too old to be, you know... -Yeah. 538 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,587 ...Spending my time being mad at somebody. 539 00:21:29,672 --> 00:21:30,788 It takes too much energy! 540 00:21:30,873 --> 00:21:32,256 -So it does. -Yeah. Yeah. 541 00:21:32,342 --> 00:21:34,825 "I don't know what you talking about. You're fine looking." 542 00:21:34,927 --> 00:21:36,877 -that's right. -[both laugh] 543 00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:39,263 -yeah. Yeah. -She's my sweet-tea, huh. 544 00:21:39,349 --> 00:21:41,048 We can't connect as a couple 545 00:21:41,134 --> 00:21:43,267 -if there's a baby in between us. -Oh, I could have 546 00:21:43,353 --> 00:21:45,720 but you didn't wanna connect as a couple. 547 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,938 -I cannot connect as a couple. -[laughing] I was... 548 00:21:48,024 --> 00:21:49,223 I was ready to connect. 549 00:21:49,309 --> 00:21:53,427 -If there is a baby in the bed with us. -[both laugh] 550 00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:55,680 when you reach a certain age, 551 00:21:55,765 --> 00:21:57,264 that you're not going to get married. 552 00:21:57,383 --> 00:21:59,016 -You're not going to find romance. -Yeah. 553 00:21:59,102 --> 00:22:00,384 You're not going to have... 554 00:22:00,470 --> 00:22:03,771 -And I'm a witness, okay, to the universe. -Yeah. 555 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:07,892 -That I was 61 and you were 60? -I was 60, I was 60. Yeah. 556 00:22:07,977 --> 00:22:10,277 -About to be 61. -Okay. 557 00:22:10,396 --> 00:22:13,731 And... It was like I was 19. 558 00:22:13,816 --> 00:22:16,450 Okay. Even our sex life was like, 559 00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:17,785 kids, okay. 560 00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:19,787 -It was good, it was good. -It was... Let me tell you, 561 00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:22,289 it was nothing like... 562 00:22:22,408 --> 00:22:25,793 -You know, whenever you talk about god redeeming the time. -Yeah. 563 00:22:25,912 --> 00:22:29,080 Okay, that you know, you think, well, you know, 564 00:22:29,165 --> 00:22:31,882 if I get... Get to this age and I can make... 565 00:22:31,968 --> 00:22:33,450 The only thing that, that I would say, 566 00:22:33,553 --> 00:22:36,470 if you were marrying later in life is that, 567 00:22:36,589 --> 00:22:37,955 you're not, you know... 568 00:22:38,057 --> 00:22:41,642 -Hey, at a certain point you're not going to have kids. -Right. Right. 569 00:22:41,761 --> 00:22:43,761 Oh, thank god... We're done. 570 00:22:43,846 --> 00:22:46,296 [laughing] thank god, we're done. 571 00:22:46,399 --> 00:22:47,598 You know. 572 00:22:47,683 --> 00:22:49,600 We can't do what we was doing, we're 70. 573 00:22:49,685 --> 00:22:51,652 -Have kids y'all, okay. -Right. 574 00:22:51,771 --> 00:22:54,805 We're big on prioritizing couple time and people... 575 00:22:54,907 --> 00:22:57,307 We did not let our son take over our life. 576 00:22:57,410 --> 00:23:00,477 He is a part of our life that we love and adore 577 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:03,614 but he is not the whole... Kit and caboodle. 578 00:23:03,699 --> 00:23:05,616 We transitioned him into his own bed. 579 00:23:05,701 --> 00:23:07,985 So, that to me, was a big part of it. 580 00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:11,321 I was like, we can't connect as a couple if there was a baby in between us. 581 00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:14,592 Oh, I could have, but you didn't want to connect as a couple. 582 00:23:14,677 --> 00:23:16,293 -I cannot connect as a couple. -[laughs] 583 00:23:16,379 --> 00:23:17,678 I was... I was ready to connect. [laughs] 584 00:23:17,797 --> 00:23:21,015 -if there was a baby in the bed with us. -[both laugh] 585 00:23:21,134 --> 00:23:23,184 so... That, that was my thing. 586 00:23:23,302 --> 00:23:26,003 I'm like, we need to create boundaries between our child and us. 587 00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:27,772 And he is now two-and-a-half. 588 00:23:27,857 --> 00:23:30,608 And he knows that's mommy and daddy's room and this is my room. 589 00:23:30,693 --> 00:23:33,844 And I sleep here and they sleep there. Um... 590 00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:36,313 And we go on vacations, we utilize our help. 591 00:23:36,399 --> 00:23:38,949 -Um... So we prioritize us. -Yeah. We date, we date. 592 00:23:39,035 --> 00:23:42,820 Cj is like a part of our life in a way that 593 00:23:42,905 --> 00:23:45,372 I don't feel like I'm not dating you if he is there like, it's just like, 594 00:23:45,491 --> 00:23:47,958 have that family time. I could be just as... 595 00:23:48,044 --> 00:23:50,795 I want to go crazy. I'll be just as turned on with you 596 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,380 half-naked as you are when you're just holding your son, 597 00:23:53,499 --> 00:23:54,882 looking at this woman because I was like, 598 00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:56,867 "that's my wife. Girl, you look good." 599 00:23:56,969 --> 00:23:59,470 you know what I'm saying? So, I was like, it... 600 00:23:59,555 --> 00:24:02,039 -It kind of just all works together. -Mmm-hmm. 601 00:24:02,141 --> 00:24:03,974 There are things that they see. 602 00:24:04,060 --> 00:24:05,876 You know like, we kiss. 603 00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:08,229 They're disgusted by it now. 604 00:24:08,347 --> 00:24:11,215 -[chuckling] -but later on, they're... 605 00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:12,850 They're gonna know if they're in a relationship like, 606 00:24:12,935 --> 00:24:14,735 "oh, this dude doesn't want to even kiss me 607 00:24:14,854 --> 00:24:16,553 or he doesn't want to hold my hand." 608 00:24:16,656 --> 00:24:19,389 we've never stopped kissing. We've never stopped holding hands. 609 00:24:19,492 --> 00:24:22,026 And, um... We're very respectful. 610 00:24:22,111 --> 00:24:24,245 We don't curse at each other. 611 00:24:24,363 --> 00:24:28,232 And I... I try and model it more than I try to... 612 00:24:28,334 --> 00:24:31,335 Come on, I mean, I used to curse you out back in the day. I don't do that anymore. 613 00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:33,237 -Yeah, we'll see. -I do not. 614 00:24:33,339 --> 00:24:36,040 -You don't know what I was laughing at. -Oh, okay. Let's see. 615 00:24:36,125 --> 00:24:39,093 -[laughs] -staying in. Um... 616 00:24:40,463 --> 00:24:43,764 But I do try and model the behavior. I don't talk 617 00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:45,516 as much about it as he does. 618 00:24:45,601 --> 00:24:48,085 You know, I think, that's like mother-father thing. 619 00:24:48,187 --> 00:24:50,420 But I do, um... 620 00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:54,558 I model... I try to model the behavior and they also see, 621 00:24:54,644 --> 00:24:57,528 you know, our little disagreements and that we've, 622 00:24:57,613 --> 00:25:01,115 you know, get past them and work them out. 623 00:25:01,234 --> 00:25:04,952 Um... And sometimes they don't even know that it happened. They saw 624 00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:06,770 the disagreement. And then suddenly like, 625 00:25:06,873 --> 00:25:08,572 we are on the couch watching a movie, holding hands. 626 00:25:08,658 --> 00:25:10,741 And they're like, "wait a minute, they were just like 627 00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:12,293 not having a good time." 628 00:25:12,828 --> 00:25:14,044 but... 629 00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:15,246 You know, they see it. 630 00:25:15,331 --> 00:25:18,048 I've had the conversation indirectly like, with my girl. 631 00:25:18,134 --> 00:25:19,466 I said, listen, 632 00:25:19,585 --> 00:25:22,953 "don't look for nobody to do what you do for you like I do for you. 633 00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:25,723 But what you should look for 634 00:25:25,808 --> 00:25:29,176 is you... You've... You see the way I treat your mother? 635 00:25:30,596 --> 00:25:32,229 Look for somebody to respect you." 636 00:25:32,315 --> 00:25:33,981 I told her, I said, "you're not going to... Nobody... 637 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:35,966 You'll never find a better lover better than I do." 638 00:25:36,068 --> 00:25:39,636 -I said that to you. -Well, you know, I said it back. 639 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:41,989 You know, um... 640 00:25:42,108 --> 00:25:44,742 It'll, you know, it'll only be different. 641 00:25:44,827 --> 00:25:46,827 But it doesn't get better than this. 642 00:25:46,946 --> 00:25:48,746 But you know, uh... 643 00:25:48,831 --> 00:25:53,083 It's just, you know, mutual respect is...Monstrous. 644 00:25:53,169 --> 00:25:55,336 It's... It's, it's essential. 645 00:25:55,454 --> 00:25:58,155 I was like, "what's going on, babe?" and she was like, 646 00:25:58,257 --> 00:26:00,824 "you know, I just want someone else on me." 647 00:26:00,927 --> 00:26:01,842 [laughs] 648 00:26:01,961 --> 00:26:03,994 -and I was like, uh... -It had been... 649 00:26:04,096 --> 00:26:05,329 I'm driving. I'm like... 650 00:26:05,431 --> 00:26:08,148 He was like, "what?" 651 00:26:08,267 --> 00:26:09,900 I'll tell you, we had a moment, we were driving. 652 00:26:09,986 --> 00:26:11,435 And she was like, ugh... 653 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,772 And I was like, "what's going on, babe?" and she was like, 654 00:26:14,857 --> 00:26:17,408 "you know, I just want someone else on me." 655 00:26:17,493 --> 00:26:18,409 [laughs] 656 00:26:18,494 --> 00:26:20,477 -and I was like, uh... -It had been... 657 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:21,745 I'm driving. I'm like... 658 00:26:21,831 --> 00:26:23,581 He was like, "what?" 659 00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:24,949 what? Excuse me. 660 00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:26,951 I was like, "what do you mean, you just want 661 00:26:27,036 --> 00:26:28,252 -somebody else on--" -you know, 662 00:26:28,337 --> 00:26:30,087 it looked, she was in her own world. She was just like-- 663 00:26:30,172 --> 00:26:31,672 I was just staring out the window 664 00:26:31,791 --> 00:26:33,457 and I didn't mean exactly that. 665 00:26:33,542 --> 00:26:35,009 What I meant was, 666 00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:36,427 we had been in a relationship for... 667 00:26:36,512 --> 00:26:38,328 -A long time. -Probably ten years by then. 668 00:26:38,431 --> 00:26:39,930 -No, it was like, seven years. -May be seven... 669 00:26:40,016 --> 00:26:42,266 Seven-year itch. You know what they say. And... 670 00:26:43,552 --> 00:26:46,971 You know, I had missed, like, you miss when you get married 671 00:26:47,056 --> 00:26:50,340 that moment that you guys meet for the first time 672 00:26:50,443 --> 00:26:53,777 and he walks you to your door and you're like, "oh, are we gonna... 673 00:26:53,863 --> 00:26:55,512 Is it gonna be a thing? Is it not gonna be?" 674 00:26:55,615 --> 00:26:58,315 the butterflies, all those things when you're dating people. 675 00:26:58,401 --> 00:27:01,151 The spontaneity, all those little things. 676 00:27:01,237 --> 00:27:02,786 And, I had just gotten to a point 677 00:27:02,872 --> 00:27:04,204 where I was like, "oh, I'm never 678 00:27:04,323 --> 00:27:05,856 gonna have a first kiss again with someone. 679 00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:08,993 I'm never gonna get that like, anxious feeling again 680 00:27:09,078 --> 00:27:11,378 when you're first dating someone and you don't know where it's going." 681 00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:14,965 and it was more like a realization of all of that stuff 682 00:27:15,051 --> 00:27:17,301 and I was like, "oh, god, I'm going to have to let that go, like, 683 00:27:17,386 --> 00:27:19,003 those butterfly feelings." 684 00:27:19,088 --> 00:27:21,204 and you have butterflies when you're are married for a long time but it's just-- 685 00:27:21,307 --> 00:27:22,806 -they're different butterfly. -It's different, it's different. 686 00:27:22,892 --> 00:27:24,207 They're not real butterflies. They-- 687 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:26,510 they're like moths. They're like moths. 688 00:27:26,595 --> 00:27:28,679 They don't, they don't got pretty colors no more, 689 00:27:28,764 --> 00:27:31,148 -they just beige. -They are those grey ones, that like, 690 00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:32,349 flutter towards the light and-- 691 00:27:32,435 --> 00:27:34,151 they just beige and maybe got a hole in the wing. 692 00:27:34,236 --> 00:27:35,235 [laughs] 693 00:27:35,354 --> 00:27:37,220 -it is like-- -they're still in there though. 694 00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:38,689 But, yeah, it's just different. 695 00:27:38,774 --> 00:27:40,891 You evolve into this different type of relationship 696 00:27:40,993 --> 00:27:42,893 when you've been with someone for so long. 697 00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:46,229 And, you know, you do everything you can to keep 698 00:27:46,332 --> 00:27:48,082 the spark alive and you do. 699 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,233 And our relationship is amazing, like, we're great. 700 00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:52,369 But you just have those moments every while when you're like... 701 00:27:52,455 --> 00:27:54,588 -It flows. -It's you face again. 702 00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:56,256 It's your face, again. 703 00:27:56,375 --> 00:27:58,926 I hope that other couples can talk about the stuff we talk about, 704 00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:01,078 -we talk about everything. -Everything. 705 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:03,097 -[laughs] -I'll be like, "hey, man, 706 00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:04,715 you could give me a heads up?" 707 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,250 -I'll be like banging it. I got to-- -that's pretty graphic. 708 00:28:07,353 --> 00:28:09,770 -[laughing] -like, like, you know, but... 709 00:28:09,889 --> 00:28:12,422 After... After being disgusted or, you know, 710 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:14,758 whatever... You know, whatever it is you're talking about. 711 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:17,728 You kind of laugh at it and be like, I'm glad that we're able... 712 00:28:17,813 --> 00:28:21,098 -To do this. -We're truly able to have this kind of conversation without, 713 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,202 um... Feeling like it ain't sexy, it ain't popular. 714 00:28:25,287 --> 00:28:26,603 -I don't care about that. -It ain't... 715 00:28:26,706 --> 00:28:29,039 You know, when you walk away from you partner, you feel like, 716 00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:31,709 "hey, we really just had this conversation, is she still..." 717 00:28:31,794 --> 00:28:35,212 you kinda looking for signs, like, "she's still..." 718 00:28:35,297 --> 00:28:38,298 like, I just told her, that's a great feeling. 719 00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:41,552 It really is. It's really a great feeling, 720 00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:46,090 and I recommend it for every couple. 721 00:28:46,175 --> 00:28:49,126 Because when you can really talk about anything. 722 00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:52,930 -But you do have to get to that place, right? -Yeah. 723 00:28:53,015 --> 00:28:55,733 But I think the best way to get there is to go in 724 00:28:55,818 --> 00:28:57,901 completely, know who you are, 725 00:28:57,987 --> 00:28:59,153 being free. 726 00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:00,988 People always say, 727 00:29:01,107 --> 00:29:03,941 -"I want to marry my best friend." -yeah. 728 00:29:04,026 --> 00:29:06,744 They always say that, "oh, I hope I can find someone. 729 00:29:06,829 --> 00:29:08,311 I want to marry my best friend." 730 00:29:08,414 --> 00:29:10,313 but they don't talk to their spouse or their significant other. 731 00:29:10,416 --> 00:29:11,915 They don't treat them like their best friend. 732 00:29:12,001 --> 00:29:13,167 Like they're their best friend. 733 00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:15,318 You can tell your best friend 734 00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:17,621 "dang, I saw a girl in the mall, man, 735 00:29:17,706 --> 00:29:19,456 I almost jumped on her back." 736 00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:21,425 -[laughing] -right? Or, you know, 737 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:22,826 -girl-- -which he would tell me. 738 00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:24,845 He will be riding in the car and he'd be like, "hey, hey, hey, 739 00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:26,847 I need you to take your wife hat off 740 00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:28,966 and put your best friend hat on please. 741 00:29:29,051 --> 00:29:32,352 Because, there was some yoga pants in the gym today." and I'll be like... 742 00:29:32,471 --> 00:29:34,521 -"let me have it." -it's like yoga palooza happening. I'm like-- 743 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,857 -[laughs] let me have it. -I'm on the treadmill like, 744 00:29:36,976 --> 00:29:39,342 -"oh, lord, this is been a whole row of..." -[laughing] 745 00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:41,344 -lululemon's in... -[laughs] lululemon's. 746 00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:43,013 Right, but look... 747 00:29:43,115 --> 00:29:45,699 The fact that we can have those-- I'm not trying to be disrespectful to her. 748 00:29:45,818 --> 00:29:47,534 No, and he's never been disrespectful. 749 00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:51,188 Right. And I'm not trying to create an environment 750 00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:53,290 where I don't value her 751 00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:55,626 as my wife and as a woman. 752 00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:59,163 But, I want to be able to talk to her about urges. 753 00:29:59,248 --> 00:30:00,964 I want her to be able to talk to me about urges 754 00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:03,867 -because they exist. -They absolutely do, yeah. 755 00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:07,004 If you think, that your significant other 756 00:30:07,089 --> 00:30:08,639 doesn't have urges... 757 00:30:09,508 --> 00:30:12,542 -You're tripping. -[laughing] 758 00:30:12,645 --> 00:30:14,645 and ignoring them... 759 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:17,481 Just builds them and builds them and builds them. 760 00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:20,317 If you don't create this environment where you can be open and honest 761 00:30:20,402 --> 00:30:22,736 -with your spouse. -It's gonna manifest itself some other way. 762 00:30:22,855 --> 00:30:24,188 It will manifest itself, because it... 763 00:30:24,273 --> 00:30:26,406 Because really what you realize happens is 764 00:30:26,525 --> 00:30:28,892 like, the moment I had that conversation with him, I was like, "oh, 765 00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:30,828 I feel better now that I got to talk to you about that." 766 00:30:30,913 --> 00:30:33,914 -think about that. Right? -And we got to have a back and forth about it. 767 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:37,067 And not only that but it opens the door to like, "okay, 768 00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:39,036 well, what can we do to, 769 00:30:39,121 --> 00:30:40,871 like, manifest that in our relationship?" 770 00:30:40,956 --> 00:30:43,841 he won't know that unless I say something and so you start to do like, 771 00:30:43,926 --> 00:30:46,543 "okay, if that's the case, we're gonna have to go on more date nights" 772 00:30:46,629 --> 00:30:48,178 or we're gonna have to do more of this or 773 00:30:48,264 --> 00:30:51,515 he would just... I'd be home and he'd show up with his suit on and be like, 774 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,085 "get dressed. We're going on a date." I'll be like, "oh, okay." 775 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,387 when we went counselling and I'm like, 776 00:30:57,473 --> 00:30:58,856 "well, why do we have to go to counselling 777 00:30:58,941 --> 00:31:00,023 because you've been married and all this things. 778 00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:01,925 You know how to be married, you know?" 779 00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:04,528 -he said, "yeah, but I wasn't married to you." -I wasn't married to you. 780 00:31:04,613 --> 00:31:07,281 -[laughs] -but, this is not about being married to you, 781 00:31:07,399 --> 00:31:09,432 -so-- -that we're going to get counselling. 782 00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:11,434 -Okay. -Yeah. So, we got pre-marital counselling. 783 00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:15,205 And one thing he said. He said, "if you want this... 784 00:31:15,291 --> 00:31:17,908 -Go ahead. -...Marriage to survive..." 785 00:31:17,993 --> 00:31:21,111 he said, "you guys better pray together everyday." 786 00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:24,131 and we started right then and there, and we continue it, 787 00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:26,083 -we still do it, to this very day. -To this very day. 788 00:31:26,168 --> 00:31:27,617 Before we ever even got married, 789 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,420 I said, "listen, I need you to know one thing, before we get married. 790 00:31:30,506 --> 00:31:33,223 I'm a married to death kind of guy, okay? 791 00:31:33,309 --> 00:31:35,392 I'm in this to death. 792 00:31:35,477 --> 00:31:38,095 So, if you don't want to be in it to death with me, 793 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,629 -let's not do this. Okay?" -mmm-hmm. 794 00:31:39,732 --> 00:31:42,632 So every time she would throw them in on the way out the door I'd say, 795 00:31:42,735 --> 00:31:45,319 "well, when you pack a bag for you, pack one for me, too. Okay? 796 00:31:45,437 --> 00:31:50,240 'cause where ever we're going, baby, we're going to be together. Okay?" 797 00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:52,743 I grew up in a very much so affectionate family, right? 798 00:31:52,861 --> 00:31:55,445 We hug every time we see each other, right. 799 00:31:55,531 --> 00:31:57,114 He never had that. 800 00:31:57,199 --> 00:31:58,865 Like, I would hug him, you know, everyday. 801 00:31:58,951 --> 00:32:00,567 He'll be like, "why, why... Why are we hugging?" 802 00:32:00,669 --> 00:32:03,754 like, you know, or saying I love you 803 00:32:03,872 --> 00:32:05,589 to my parents, to my mom, to my dad. 804 00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:08,575 He feels like, "why y'all do that all the time? This is weird," like-- 805 00:32:08,677 --> 00:32:11,712 I was like, "no, that's just how we... You know, we are." 806 00:32:11,797 --> 00:32:14,798 I had to get to a place where I understood 807 00:32:14,883 --> 00:32:16,600 he didn't grow up the same way. 808 00:32:16,719 --> 00:32:18,435 So he doesn't know 809 00:32:18,554 --> 00:32:20,370 what I know, right? 810 00:32:20,472 --> 00:32:22,940 And I had to understand that 811 00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:25,208 just because he doesn't know, it doesn't make him wrong. 812 00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:27,144 It's just, I want to introduce it to him. 813 00:32:27,246 --> 00:32:29,730 And so, sometime I would really try to force it on him. 814 00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:31,431 -[laughs] -um... And then I had to realize, 815 00:32:31,533 --> 00:32:33,784 oh, it ain't going to work. Forcing ain't going to work. 816 00:32:33,902 --> 00:32:37,454 So let me gently expose him to love. 817 00:32:37,573 --> 00:32:39,656 And then he got to a place where he wanted to hug 818 00:32:39,742 --> 00:32:42,125 -and I was like, "get off me. What are you doing?" -yeah, yeah. 819 00:32:42,244 --> 00:32:44,127 He had turned me into... 820 00:32:44,246 --> 00:32:47,230 'cause I had tried my best to do what I thought he needed. 821 00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:49,616 And I had turned off this side of me. 822 00:32:49,718 --> 00:32:52,919 And so when he was ready for it. I didn't want it. 823 00:32:53,005 --> 00:32:55,505 I was like, "what... What are you doing?" 824 00:32:55,591 --> 00:32:56,923 -yeah. -He was like, 825 00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:58,592 "you used to always want to hug." 826 00:32:58,677 --> 00:33:02,095 I was like, "yeah, but you didn't like that so I did turn that part off, bro. 827 00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:06,099 -Back off, decide, like, what you want?" -[both laughing] 828 00:33:06,185 --> 00:33:09,636 but now, thank god we... You know, 829 00:33:09,738 --> 00:33:11,738 we came out of that curve into the straighter way. 830 00:33:12,358 --> 00:33:13,690 And now we both like to, 831 00:33:13,776 --> 00:33:17,143 -to hug and stuff. -And now I'm like, "hey. Hey, come over here." 832 00:33:17,246 --> 00:33:19,279 -yeah, I'll be on the couch. -"oh, no, not today. 833 00:33:19,365 --> 00:33:21,581 I need you, I want to lay right here in your lap. 834 00:33:22,785 --> 00:33:24,201 All I need is 30 minutes right here. 835 00:33:24,286 --> 00:33:25,702 Babe, put your legs right here." 836 00:33:25,788 --> 00:33:27,788 when I met him, he was always 837 00:33:27,873 --> 00:33:29,539 -the bbd. That's what he calls himself. -The bbd. 838 00:33:29,625 --> 00:33:33,343 I'm just the bigger better deal, like, you're never going to find anyone 839 00:33:33,462 --> 00:33:36,513 that's going to offer you, 840 00:33:36,632 --> 00:33:39,549 as a spouse, as a man, what I can offer you. 841 00:33:39,635 --> 00:33:42,519 -I know that. -And that was from day... That was from day one. 842 00:33:42,638 --> 00:33:44,354 And to be quite honest, 843 00:33:44,473 --> 00:33:46,556 he is right. Like, he is 100% right. 844 00:33:46,642 --> 00:33:48,692 Which is why I knew I can have that conversation with him. 845 00:33:48,811 --> 00:33:51,361 So I think, probably, when I said that to him, 846 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,196 or when I said it out loud, 847 00:33:53,315 --> 00:33:56,149 I didn't really have a fear that he would, 848 00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:58,402 like, fly off the handle or anything like that. 849 00:33:58,487 --> 00:33:59,853 -A, 'cause he is-- -what did you mean? 850 00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:02,823 'cause he is confident enough in himself. 851 00:34:02,908 --> 00:34:05,542 Like, that's what a real relationship is. Like, people say it all the time. 852 00:34:05,661 --> 00:34:07,544 But a real relationship is 853 00:34:07,663 --> 00:34:10,697 being able to be 100% of yourself 854 00:34:10,799 --> 00:34:13,500 all the time, every single day and still... 855 00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:15,836 And the other person being the same 856 00:34:15,921 --> 00:34:17,587 and you guys are still on the same place. 857 00:34:17,673 --> 00:34:20,724 Like, if you're only bringing 20% of yourself to the table, 858 00:34:20,843 --> 00:34:23,209 and then you guys go however many years you go 859 00:34:23,312 --> 00:34:25,896 and then the other ten starts to slip out and then 860 00:34:26,014 --> 00:34:28,348 a 15% after that, then now you are a different person. 861 00:34:28,434 --> 00:34:29,716 That's not who that person married. 862 00:34:29,818 --> 00:34:32,018 So, I think from the beginning 863 00:34:32,104 --> 00:34:33,887 I was 100% myself. 864 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:36,022 Probably to a fault, like, where I was like, 865 00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:37,691 you're good, I'm not, like, I'm not trying to... 866 00:34:37,776 --> 00:34:40,193 And he was 100% himself and there was... 867 00:34:40,279 --> 00:34:42,779 There was no, like, little side things coming in 868 00:34:42,865 --> 00:34:45,282 throughout the 17 years we've been together. 869 00:34:46,001 --> 00:34:48,067 A lot of people think that, 870 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:52,923 love and marriage is about romance and kicking it together and having... 871 00:34:53,041 --> 00:34:55,742 But it's really purpose in it. 872 00:34:55,844 --> 00:34:59,262 When god brings certain people together, you know, 873 00:34:59,381 --> 00:35:01,915 and you know you know you're not dancing around, 874 00:35:02,017 --> 00:35:02,883 well, maybe I don't know... 875 00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:04,518 But when you know you know, 876 00:35:04,603 --> 00:35:09,306 there is a purpose behind it. And we can see that ours wasn't just about, 877 00:35:09,391 --> 00:35:11,608 -"oh, I love you." -oh, but I do. 878 00:35:11,727 --> 00:35:14,227 -Yeah, I know, but it was really... -[laughing] 879 00:35:14,313 --> 00:35:16,062 -you know, there was a god purpose in it. -Right. 880 00:35:16,148 --> 00:35:18,148 -Especially for our children. -Yes. 881 00:35:18,233 --> 00:35:20,650 And their marriages, 'cause all of our children are married. 882 00:35:20,736 --> 00:35:21,818 -Praise god. -Parise god. 883 00:35:21,904 --> 00:35:23,570 -I pray that they all stay married. -Oh, lord. 884 00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:25,271 -Please let them stay married. -Praise the lord. 885 00:35:25,374 --> 00:35:27,791 -For the sake of our grandchildren especially. -Yes. 886 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:30,744 But we're always leaving foot prints for them, 887 00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:32,496 you know, like, "how do we get through this one, how do we..." 888 00:35:32,581 --> 00:35:34,414 you know, how, you know, we see them 889 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,500 going on the wrong track, we'll sit them down 890 00:35:36,585 --> 00:35:38,618 and have a come to jesus meeting with them, 891 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:39,669 -okay, you know. -Oh, yeah. 892 00:35:39,755 --> 00:35:42,339 -They may not like it but it helps us. -Yeah. 893 00:35:42,424 --> 00:35:45,759 Marriage has taught me to listen. 894 00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:49,095 Um... And patience. 895 00:35:49,515 --> 00:35:53,433 And...I can't have everything my way. 896 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:57,437 Because I used to listen to react. 897 00:35:57,523 --> 00:35:59,639 Right. When I was young, 'cause we was all young together. 898 00:35:59,741 --> 00:36:01,441 I want to get my two cent in. 899 00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:05,812 But now, after years and years, 900 00:36:05,914 --> 00:36:08,615 I listen sometimes not to react at all, 901 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:11,701 but just to be able to know how to love him. 902 00:36:11,787 --> 00:36:14,037 Uh, be able to give him what he needs. 903 00:36:14,122 --> 00:36:18,842 So, it has definitely taught me that listening has power. 904 00:36:18,961 --> 00:36:22,796 And it helps me be a better woman and wife. 905 00:36:22,881 --> 00:36:26,132 -So... Yeah. -Marriage has taught me, 906 00:36:27,603 --> 00:36:29,102 that god is real. 907 00:36:29,805 --> 00:36:31,671 I wasn't raised in a church. 908 00:36:31,773 --> 00:36:33,223 Like, I told you, I don't really have... 909 00:36:33,308 --> 00:36:36,193 I didn't really have a lot of knowledge about marriage. 910 00:36:36,311 --> 00:36:38,662 Um...But... 911 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:43,700 Through... If I... In reflecting on our 912 00:36:43,819 --> 00:36:47,320 marriage and now where we are sitting here with you, 913 00:36:47,406 --> 00:36:49,188 god has to be real. 914 00:36:49,291 --> 00:36:51,190 He has to be real. 915 00:36:51,293 --> 00:36:53,994 I hadn't even thought about some of the arguments 916 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:55,295 and some of the words, like, 917 00:36:55,998 --> 00:36:59,049 harsh and, like, flat out 918 00:36:59,167 --> 00:37:02,586 mean things that we had said and done to each other, 919 00:37:02,671 --> 00:37:04,504 in a long time, right. 920 00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:07,390 And when you're going through that stuff, you're only thinking about that moment. 921 00:37:07,509 --> 00:37:10,060 And the fact that right now we are here 922 00:37:10,178 --> 00:37:12,712 telling our story. Um... 923 00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:15,015 And me know... I know me better than anybody. 924 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,400 And I'm just thinking about the things that, 925 00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:22,105 the little knowledge in almost every category that I had. 926 00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:24,357 And I'm not pro, I can't tell you a scripture out of the bible. 927 00:37:24,443 --> 00:37:27,360 I can't tell you nothing. But I can tell you 928 00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:28,912 that it's the only the grace of god 929 00:37:29,031 --> 00:37:31,081 that we are sitting here, 930 00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:33,733 that we are able to love each other, 931 00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,869 able to have certain conversations. 932 00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:40,090 And I hope, it inspires somebody who watches this and see this, 933 00:37:40,208 --> 00:37:43,260 um, that that ain't nobody but god. 934 00:37:43,378 --> 00:37:47,413 That's what marriage has taught me about myself. 935 00:37:47,516 --> 00:37:48,682 [both laughing] 936 00:37:49,384 --> 00:37:50,800 absolutely. 937 00:37:50,886 --> 00:37:51,918 ♪ I really love you ♪ 938 00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:53,970 ♪ let's do this for a lifetime ♪ 939 00:37:54,056 --> 00:37:56,089 ♪ a lifetime ♪ 940 00:37:56,191 --> 00:37:59,726 ♪ so tell me baby, baby baby, baby ♪ 941 00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:03,563 ♪ will you love me, love me, love me, love me ♪ 942 00:38:03,649 --> 00:38:07,934 ♪ forever, forever and always ♪ 943 00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:09,886 ♪ yeah ♪ 944 00:38:09,988 --> 00:38:12,589 ♪ baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 945 00:38:12,691 --> 00:38:16,326 ♪ will you love me, love me, love me, love me ♪ 946 00:38:16,428 --> 00:38:20,830 ♪ forever, forever and always ♪ 947 00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:23,466 [vocalizing] 948 00:38:23,568 --> 00:38:26,169 ♪ I found myself in the deep of the night ♪ 949 00:38:26,271 --> 00:38:28,638 ♪ dreaming days where we take on the ocean ♪ 950 00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:30,173 ♪ and rivers wide ♪ 951 00:38:30,275 --> 00:38:32,776 ♪ I see you paint in the sky you and I ♪ 952 00:38:32,878 --> 00:38:35,128 ♪ and we are flyin' away so high ♪ 953 00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:38,815 ♪ whether life send us up to the mountain ♪ 954 00:38:38,934 --> 00:38:43,469 ♪ or down through the roughest valley ♪ 955 00:38:43,572 --> 00:38:46,690 ♪ I want to do it with you, always ♪ 956 00:38:46,775 --> 00:38:49,359 ♪ yes, I do, yes, I do ♪ 957 00:38:49,444 --> 00:38:52,662 ♪ baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 958 00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:55,999 ♪ love me, love me, love me, love me ♪ 959 00:38:56,118 --> 00:39:00,837 ♪ forever, forever and always ♪ 960 00:39:00,956 --> 00:39:02,539 ♪ just let me know you rockin' with me ♪ 961 00:39:02,624 --> 00:39:05,008 ♪ baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 962 00:39:05,127 --> 00:39:08,812 ♪ will you love me, love me, love me, love me ♪ 963 00:39:08,914 --> 00:39:14,617 ♪ forever, forever and always ♪ 964 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,221 ♪ just tell me baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 965 00:39:18,306 --> 00:39:22,525 ♪ will you love me, love me, love me, love me ♪ 966 00:39:22,627 --> 00:39:24,644 ♪ I want to know I need to know ♪ 967 00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:25,979 ♪ yeah ♪ 968 00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:28,198 ♪ I wanna love you forever and ever ♪ 969 00:39:28,316 --> 00:39:31,000 ♪ tell me baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 970 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,071 ♪ will you love me, love me, love me, love me ♪ 971 00:39:35,173 --> 00:39:39,342 ♪ forever, forever and always ♪ 972 00:39:39,444 --> 00:39:40,977 [vocalizing] 973 00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:44,047 ♪ baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 974 00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:48,017 ♪ will you love me, love me, love me, love me ♪ 975 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,973 ♪ forever and always ♪