- I'm kate snow,
And this is "dateline: Secrets uncovered."
♪♪
- I wonder why I didn't do more.
I should have done something different.
I'll live with that forever.
Forever and ever, it will haunt me.
- High school sweethearts with a growing family.
Then, it all went up in flames.
- There's a fire, and my wife is--
- His wife was inside.
- I believed somehow it wasn't true.
- None of it made sense to me.
- But buried in the ashes, secrets.
- I don't care what you think you're seeing.
You're dealing with a murder.
- The gun, how did it end up
Completely underneath her body?
- In the front driver's seat was what appeared to be a note.
- She had rekindled a relationship
With one of the executives.
- Did someone have something to hide?
- Did you murder her? - No.
- Did you pull the trigger? - No.
- Did you kill her? - No!
- It was like a script.
He had answers for everything.
- Your head is spinning.
You realize this is it.
- You are going to hell for what you've done in this case.
♪♪
- Hello, and welcome to "dateline: Secrets uncovered."
Brett and vashti seacat made a striking couple.
They were busy raising two boys
In their small kansas community.
Then a fire ripped through their home.
In the ashes, investigators discovered signs of arson,
And vashti lying dead in her bed.
Brett soon revealed his wife was hiding a painful secret,
Leaving officials with a crucial question.
Had vashti taken her own life,
Or was this murder?
Here's keith morrison with "up in flames."
- It was dark, past 3 a.M.
A weak hint of crescent moon
Struggled to penetrate the night
Here in the middle of america.
Kingman, kansas, population 3,000,
Was asleep...
Except on a quiet residential street
A woman unable to sleep watched a crime show on tv.
Was that popping noise she heard coming from somewhere
In the neighborhood, or was it her tv show
Or just a remnant of the windy day
Licking around her windowsill?
The silent night closed in, again.
April 30th, 2011, tornado season,
Oh, and there was a storm that night.
A whirlwind even then sweeping all of them
Into its vortex,
But it began not with wind,
With fire.
- 3:51 a.M.,
The man on the phone to 911 was frantic,
Out of breath.
Here is the actual video of kingman's one officer
On duty that night running to his police car
And speeding to the burning house
Where he met the 911 caller outside.
You can hear them both recorded by his patrol car's
Dashboard video camera.
The man said his wife was still in the master bedroom
In the back of the house, second floor.
And if that was true, didn't look good for her.
A passerby caught this video on his cell phone.
By then, the volunteer fire brigade was arriving.
Not much any of them could do for the woman inside.
As the man calmed down a little, he told the officer
He was able only to rescue his two
And four-year-old sons-- carry them to safety.
So, somewhere in there, his wife, their mother,
Was dead.
There was more to his story, as you'll hear,
Much more, but, for now, the dismal business
Of sorting out what happened.
So, where to begin?
The man on the street said his wife's name was vashti,
Vashti seacat.
- It was a name out of the bible,
In the book of esther. There was a queen vashti.
My dad thought the name was neat,
So he named her vashti.
- Vashti's sister, kathleen, lived three hours away.
Neither she, nor her brother, rich,
Could believe what they heard that dark morning.
- The first thing I did
Was call the kingman county sheriff's department
Just to verify. - Did they help you?
Did they tell you anything?
- First, he asked who I was,
And I explained my relationship to vashti,
And then he said, "yeah, there's been a fire,
"and we believe she's deceased."
- And the man standing outside his burning house,
That was vashti' husband, brett seacat,
Her very first love.
- Yeah, they met in high school.
She did some stats for a team,
And he was a wrestler,
First little love in high school,
First boyfriend, girlfriend.
- They broke up and got back together a few times,
As people do, until they finally married in 2004.
- That first love always holds a special place
In your life.
- But by dawn on the 30th of April 2011,
Though, as you'll hear, brett certainly knew
What to do in a crisis,
There was nothing he or anyone could do
To get it back, the life he had with vashti
And their two boys, now motherless boys,
Brendan, born in the fall of 2006,
Bronson less than two years later.
- When they had their babies, it was a very happy time.
My sister was mother of the year.
Award goes to her.
- And at 4 in the morning, she would get up
And hand make baby food.
- Wow.
- So her kids could have organic healthy food.
- Mm-hmm.
She lived for those babies.
- And not just her own kids.
- She was the first to help someone.
At-at the boys' daycare, a little boy had--
It was cancer, leukemia, something,
And she stayed up and baked mini loaves of banana bread
And sold those to raise the money
For that boy to have treatment.
- What was brett like as a dad?
- He did lots of things with the kids.
I will tell you he did walks with them.
He would play outside with them.
He was very engaged as a dad.
He was very proud of his sons.
- Brett was a lawman from a family of lawmen,
A former sheriff's deputy, and for the last few years,
He'd been teaching officer recruits of all types
At the kansas law enforcement training center
Where bobby seacat,
One of his brothers, worked before him.
- He was actually hired to replace me
When I left there. So--
- So, what was the job? Teaching what?
- Brett got into the accident investigation
And collision investigation,
But he was much more into physical training,
In defense tactics, than I ever was.
- He had more interest in that kinda thing.
- He did.
- The personal combat stuff? - Uh, he did.
Growin' up, he got into martial arts.
He was into wrestling in high school
And, uh, then got into bodybuilding,
Martial arts things.
He was a lot bigger than I was.
- The training center job gave brett a set schedule
With regular hours, which was a welcome change
From being a deputy sheriff, especially with those two boys
Clamoring for his attention at home.
- He was close to the boys, but he was very masculine
With the boys. It was raise 'em as boys.
- Mm-hmm. - They were tough.
They wrestled a lot, and he would wrestle with 'em.
He'd toss 'em across the room onto the couch,
And they'd bounce off the couch
And run right back to be tossed, again.
- Sure, yeah.
- A terrible thing to happen
To such a beautiful young family
Even if the fire was all you heard about it.
But now brett seacat headed to the local law enforcement center
A few blocks away,
And there he repeated to fellow law enforcement officers
Something he'd said on the 911 call,
That the fire was not what killed vashti seacat.
- What did happen to vashti?
Investigators uncover a surprising piece of evidence
Right there in the bedroom.
Coming up...
- The firearm was actually under her left hip,
Which would've been against the mattress,
With the barrel facing downward.
- Firearm? A gun in the bed?
When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
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- The sun rose over grief and chaos
That last morning of April 2011 in little kingman, kansas.
Vashti seacat was dead, her house burned around her,
And a husband and two little boys
Were just beginning to understand
What had happened to them,
The can't believe it stage,
Just like her siblings, kathleen and rich.
- Like, I believed somehow it wasn't true.
You-you plead with god,
Or you-you just want a miracle to happen.
- No miracles to be had,
And that might have been the end of it, really,
An awful tragedy,
But these things do happen and for all but loved ones
Are soon forgotten by the rest of the world,
Except those volunteer firemen
Weren't quite sure what they were dealing with.
So, they took the prudent step and called in
The state fire marshal and the atf,
The bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms.
- We get a lot more training-- we get a lot more exposure
To the scientific side of things.
- And that morning, doug monty was the atf agent
Who showed up at the house to have a look around.
- If you looked at it from the front of the house,
You-- all you really noticed was the fact
That part of the roof had collapsed.
As you made your way around back,
There was very, very heavy fire damage,
Uh, to include collapse of the second
And third floor, which is-is significant.
- So, really, you had the front facade that was up,
And the rest of it was pretty badly damaged.
- It wasn't-- it wasn't down, but anybody goin' by
Could tell there-- - yeah.
- A very significant fire that occurred inside
On the second and third floors.
- And you heard there was a body inside.
Did you-- did you hear anything else about it? The--
- Normally, when I arrive at a scene like that,
I'll-I'll meet with the on scene investigators,
The fire chief, um, local officers,
And they had informed me that, uh,
As the first arriving officer got there,
He made contact with-with brett seacat,
And he indicated that his wife,
Uh, was inside.
- They also told him that when the first responders arrived,
The windows in the master bedroom
Were still intact,
Which would have tamped down the fire
Inside the room where vashti was last seen,
And that meant there was some chance at least
That some evidence would still exist in there.
Wouldn't be completely incinerated by the flames.
And sure enough,
When monty got inside what was left of the house,
He saw the body of vashti seacat
Lying on the mattress in the master bedroom
On the second floor.
- She was lying on her left side.
Her knees were slightly drawn up.
Uh, it appeared that her elbows were bent.
There was still a significant amount of-
Of blanket or covering on her,
Like she was under the covers asleep.
- Also there, a weapon.
- The firearm was actually under left hip,
Which would've been against the mattress,
With the barrel facing downward.
- It became clear the gun had been the source
Of a single gunshot wound to the side of her lower skull.
There were other wounds, too.
Oddly enough, you can hear gunshots going off
During the fire in that cell phone video
Shot by a passerby. [gunshots firing]
Had to be, agent monty said,
When the hot fire exploded the remaining bullets
In the gun sending bullets into vashti's body,
And something else that,
Courtesy of those unblown windows,
Didn't burn up completely.
- We noticed a red plastic container,
Uh, very close to her-her back
On-on the mattress itself.
- Plastic container for what?
- It was a gas can.
- Clearly a gas can? - Yes.
- So, what'd that tell ya?
- Well, our job that day was to determine the origin
And cause of the fire and to classify it
Whether it was accidental--
Whether we couldn't determine a cause,
Or whether it was incendiary,
Or someone intentionally set the fire.
- Well, that certainly would make a suggestion,
Wouldn't it, a gas can on the bed?
- That-that would be an indicator. Yes, sir.
- Suspicious? Oh, yes,
But maybe not what you're thinking,
Maybe not murder.
In fact, the answer to what happened
To vashti seacat was right there
In her husband's panicky call to 911.
But why would a mother of two little boys kill herself?
That was a story only her widower,
Brett seacat, could tell.
- Coming up...
- She wanted to make everybody happy.
- Brett seacat has some secrets to share.
- He'd informed us that she would put on one face
For her family and the public,
And then she would be a different person at home.
- So that brett knew and nobody else.
- Right.
- Inside a relationship on the ropes.
- I made it perfectly clear
I was gonna do everything I could to make sure
She doesn't see the kids again.
- When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
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- Fire is a terrible thing to happen to a family,
But fire was only half of the deadly event
That ruptured the seacat family of kingman, kansas.
This was a fire and a shooting,
Apparently both the suicidal work of vashti seacat,
And because it occurred in a small rural county,
It triggered a call to the kbi,
The statewide kansas bureau of investigation,
Whose special agent dave falletti
Welcomed a chance to hear what happened
Directly from brett seacat himself.
- This is dave falletti. - Hi, brett.
- Brett, remember, was in law enforcement himself
And understood that agent falletti
Needed to hear the whole story,
Warts and all.
- We interviewed him for approximately 7.5 hours,
Just two cops talking to each other.
- Uh, seemed to be forthcoming?
- Yeah, he was very forthcoming.
Well, I'm sorry we have to have you here.
I'm just wanna talk about what happened.
- Okay.
- I know that it's been a tough--
Terrible time for ya.
- The agent was about to discover
That brett was dealing not just with grief
But with a heavy burden of guilt,
Though it took a while
To get to that part of the story.
- Usually when we interview people,
I want 'em to start at the very beginning,
And-and we did.
- Brett told them the story
Of how he met vashti in high school
And how he was smitten from the very first moment.
- She was great.
Um, she wanted to make everybody happy.
- Mm-hmm.
- Uh, she really, really worked on that.
She really cared what people thought about her
Almost to the point of neurosis
I always thought.
- And maybe that's why, in recent years,
She had been paying way too much attention to her job, he said,
Even when she was home.
- She was very dedicated to her job.
Now, I always thought that that kinda took away
From her time with the kids because, you know,
The kids and I may be playing in the living room,
And she'd be in the office workin'.
- But making matters worse, said brett,
Was that vashti was depressed,
Had been for a long time,
Something almost no one else knew.
- He had informed us that, uh, vashti would--
Was basically two vashtis.
She would put on one face for her-her family
And the public,
And then she would be a different person at home.
- So that brett knew and nobody else.
- Right.
- She would get depressed over something,
But she would never talk to anybody
About being depressed over it because she was--
She was always worried about how people would view her.
- Hmm.
- And even as her boyfriend, as her husband,
Uh, the only reason I ever even got exposed to it
Was 'cause I was the guy who spent the nights with her.
- Things got so bad, brett said,
Her depression was affecting their marriage.
They started seeing a therapist.
He also told investigators that, to help her lose weight,
Vashti took a hormonal supplement, hcg,
Which has been linked to depression,
And he remembered something
That now came back to haunt him, he told them.
That, one night, he and vashti were watching a drama on tv
During which...
- Someone had committed suicide with a firearm,
And she had asked him, uh, if that gun would be
A good gun to do that with, and he said, "yeah.
"uh, I've got one of those, but the dirty harry gun--"
Uh, which he indicated was a-- the .44 ruger magnum
That they had, would be a better tool
To do that with.
- So, he looked back on it then in the interview with you as,
"oh, my gosh, I told her how to kill herself."
- Right.
- But it got even worse, said brett,
When vashti told him, to his dismay,
That she wanted to split up
And served him with divorce papers,
And he, very upset he said, told her the night she died...
- You and I will go to the mat.
And, uh, you know, I-I made it perfectly clear,
Whether it was-- it was truthful or not,
That if this went to court,
I was gonna do everything I could
To make sure she doesn't see the kids again.
- There was no sharing a bed anymore.
And after he fell asleep on the couch downstairs,
He said his cell phone rang.
It was vashti calling from the bedroom upstairs.
- Anyway, I answer it.
She said, "are you awake?
"you need to come get the boys."
- Brett said he jumped up and heard a loud noise.
- Sounded like somebody just hauled off
And slammed the door closed as hard as they could.
- Then he said he heard what sounded like
Somebody walking around on the second floor,
And he bounded up the stairs to the bedroom.
- I remember that clearly now,
And there were small flames around the door.
The flames were about that high off the ground.
- So, about a foot. - Yeah.
- And then he said he ran into the master bedroom.
- Um, the bed is on fire and--
Or the whole room could have been on fire.
I'm pretty sure it was. - Mm-hmm.
- But I was just lookin' right there,
And vashti was laying on her back
Right in the spot where she sleeps.
- He said he reached over vashti's right shoulder
And around her neck...
- And I pulled her up,
And she sank down.
She just, like, waffled in my arms down straight,
Not like somebody who's gettin' picked up.
- Yeah.
- Then all of the sudden, it sorta came to me...
Dead, fire, kids.
I just dropped her.
- That's when he ran to the boys' room, he said,
Scooped them up, ran downstairs,
Put them in the car, and then called 911,
And then ran back into the house
To try to get vashti.
He covered his face with a wet dishcloth, he said,
And ran back up the stairs.
- By the time I get to the top of the stairs,
It's pitch black. I can't see anything.
- Mm-hmm.
- Not even my hand in front of my face.
Yeah, I-I told myself to get out.
- And now, vashti was dead,
And brett couldn't stop wondering,
He told agent falletti,
Wondering if she was thinking about the kids
As she prepared to end her life.
- I have a question for ya.
Did mommy say goodbye, or did mommy did tuck you in
And say, "night, night," or did mommy say, "goodbye,"
Was the big one? - Mm-hmm.
- Because she did love those kids,
And I can see her goin' in there
And kissin' each one of 'em good night.
- Brett said he explained to the boys,
Especially the older one,
That mommy's in heaven now, that she's with god.
- We talk about that, uh, every night right before bed.
- And here, cop to cop, it was as if brett seacat
Was in a confessional booth,
Full of sorrow for threatening to take away the boys,
The trigger, he was sure, for her suicide.
Did he seem remorseful about having said that?
- Yes, he did. - Yeah.
- He showed remorse that he had driven her
To commit suicide.
He had given her no other out
Other than to take her own life.
- Coming up... A journal.
- In the front driver's seat was what appeared to be
A note to her two children and to brett.
- Could it be a final message to her family?
- She's telling her children to keep, uh--
Take care of each other and then made the comment,
Uh, and, brett, I took care of the house for you.
- None of it made sense to me.
- When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
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Welcome back to "dateline: Secrets uncovered."
I'm kate snow.
Brett seacat told police that his wife, vashti,
Had asked him for a divorce.
He responded by threatening
That she would never see their boys again.
Now, he wondered if that pushed vashti
To take her own life,
But investigators were about to discover
An intriguing clue, a secret message
That they thought might give insight
Into vashti's final wishes.
Once again, here's keith morrison
With "up in flames."
- The known facts were stark, quite clear.
Vashti seacat was dead,
A fatal bullet wound to the head,
Her house burned around her,
Her boys motherless, her husband a widower.
Now, the trick would be finding evidence
For or against the story behind the apparent suicide,
Brett seacat's story,
Which wasn't long in coming said lead kbi agent falletti.
In vashti's purse, they found a post-it note
With a list of expenses.
- Indications of, uh, money
That she needed in her life insurance.
- The list included funeral expenses.
And then they had a good look
Through vashti's volkswagen, and in her trunk,
They found printed material about coping with stress
And anxiety, but, more important,
Investigators discovered something falletti knew
Was absolutely key.
- In the front, uh, driver's seat was a-a journal,
As you open that book and go past some of the notes
That she had written in reference to her children,
Um, kind of bookmarked with, uh, the string
That you usually find in those types of books,
Uh, was what appeared to be a note,
Uh, to her two children and to brett,
And in that note, uh, she's trying to explain.
Tell the children I love them,
And she's telling her children to keep, uh--
Take care of each other, and then made the comment,
Uh, and brett, I took care of the house for you.
- The note also said she'd be watching over her sons
From heaven.
All those words on that page seemed pretty clear.
It was a goodbye note.
Investigators also talked to vashti's friends and family,
Colleagues at cox communications
Where she worked in human resources,
And others who knew her well.
They said vashti had been going to a therapist
For several months,
That she had been losing a lot of weight recently
And taking the hormonal supplement, hcg.
Could it have affected her mood?
Brett's half-brother, bobby,
Was dumbstruck by what happened,
Couldn't comprehend it,
So he peppered him with questions.
- None of it made sense to me.
I said, "were there problems?"
He said, "well, yeah. He-- she filed for divorce."
And he told me they'd been to see a counselor,
They'd been going through counseling for six months,
And I said, "what would cause her to do this?"
And, uh, he said, "I used the boys as a weapon,
"somethin' I never shoulda done.
"if she tried taking custody of the boys,
"I would take the boys and run away with 'em."
And he was beatin' himself up about that,
And I, of course,
Said probably half of all the people
That have ever gotten a divorce
That have kids involved have said something similar.
- Sure.
Bobby was learning things about vashti he'd never known,
He said, like when brett told him
That before vashti died,
She had been spending evenings out.
- Goin' on partyin', and-and dancin',
And drinking.
- So, where would the kids be when she did that?
- With brett. - Uh-huh.
- And I'm not saying that those kids didn't mean a lot to her.
She was a wonderful person on the surface,
And there was a different vashti
That we were unaware of,
And it's-it's upsetting to be made aware of it.
- To brett,
Vashti's going out was a sure sign
She was sinking into depression.
Fit a pattern he'd seen before,
Just as he told the investigators.
And again, bobby was shocked.
Didn't know a thing about it.
- Before this happened, I had never heard anything
About her being suicidal,
And that's why I have some disappointment
In my half-brother.
I mean, if he felt a duty to protect her,
I understand,
But there are other people there
To help you through this.
In hindsight, I'm sure he wishes
He woulda shared those things.
- But one thing jumped right back at bobby,
Something he saw the weekend before vashti died.
She seemed sad and withdrawn that time he saw her,
Sitting by herself in the house
While her young sons
Were hunting for easter eggs outside.
- She was not typical vashti,
Who was usually bubbly and talkative,
And it was unusual that an easter egg hunt occurred,
And she didn't even get off the couch
And come outside.
- Bobby and his wife noticed--
Asked how she was doing.
- All she told us that day
Was she really didn't like work,
And work was a-a struggle for her daily.
She said, "I got into hr to give people a future
"and hope, and I don't remember the last person I hired."
- And according to bobby, vashti said
When she had to lay off employees,
It was difficult for her,
Especially if she was close to them.
- She said, "if they're not your friends,
"they take the news, and they leave.
"if they're your friends, they stay in your office
"and cry on your shoulder for an hour."
- As brett filled his half-brother in on everything,
Bobby came to understand that apparently
The emotions of vashti's job, the strain of her divorce,
Her depression,
And brett's threat to take the kids from her
Proved too much,
And, sadly, she took her life,
Leaving brett and the boys to go on somehow themselves.
- I've gotten past anger towards her.
Now, it's just it- it bothers me.
There's just things I think in her life
That derailed.
- But to set the house on fire
With your own little boys inside?
- We're trying to assign rational thinking
To someone that I believe
Was getting ready to take their own life.
- So, for brett's family,
It was starting to make sense.
But for vashti's family,
It just made no sense at all.
- Coming up...
Questions and suspicions.
- He didn't like people.
He more wanted to isolate my sister
And have her all to himself.
- I don't care what you're being told.
I don't care what you think you're seeing.
You're dealing with a murder.
- When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
♪♪
- The vigil for vashti's seacat
Was held across the street from her burned out house.
- Her life was grounded in your love.
- Kathleen and rich were there.
So was brett with his two sons.
Not easy for any of them.
And truth, as vashti's siblings,
Kathleen and rich knew,
Has a way of looking so very different
Depending on who is doing the looking,
Which is why the minute rich found out something happened to his sister,
He called the kingman county sheriff's office.
- I said, "I don't care what you're being told.
"I don't care what you think you're seeing."
I said, "you're dealing with a murder."
- A murder?
Even as they grieved,
Kathleen and rich had become suspicious
Of brett ever since brett called kathleen
To tell her the news
And phrased it in such an odd way.
- He said, "vashti killed herself
"and then set the house on fire."
So, how it was said to us was backwards,
And just from conversations her and I had had,
I knew. I just-- I knew.
- What did he sound like?
- No emotion, very calm, no tears,
No-no hysterics, just--
- Very matter of fact.
- And I'm hysterical.
I'm not married to her,
And she's not the mother of my children,
And I'm hysterical, but he-he wasn't.
- A week or so later, brett drove down to oklahoma
To speak directly with kathleen and her husband.
- And he had answers for everything,
Like why she did what she did,
Why she thought what she thought.
It was like a script, answers for everything,
Where normal people would be confused,
And there was a picture of her
That was a poster size picture on my fireplace,
And I looked over at it and said,
"she was such a good mother," and I broke down,
And he said, "oh, I'm over that.
"I'm just kind of angry at her and ready to move on."
- But they had to admit that brett's social interactions
Had always been a little cold,
Sometimes inappropriate,
And his reaction to vashti's death
Was not out of character.
- He didn't like people.
He more wanted to isolate my sister
And have her all to himself.
I almost felt like vashti and the children
Were more of a possession. - Possession.
- Than-- - they were his. Mine.
- Like your clan.
- Everybody stay away from my stuff.
- Yeah.
So, it was a different kind of love
Than maybe what I would define as love.
- Early on, at least according to her siblings,
Vashti questioned her decision to marry brett,
Wondering if she should stay in the marriage.
That is until she found out she was pregnant
With the first of her sons.
- I do think brett treated her well
While she was pregnant.
He was very proud he was going to be having sons,
And the seacat name was going to be,
You know, pushed on.
But several times in their marriage,
It didn't feel right.
I-I know she missed family.
She wanted to reconnect with friends.
She felt forced to not have the same friends,
And that bothered her.
- Did it change the way she was or her personality?
- Those boys were her life.
So, I think she was so focused.
- Wrap-- yeah, focused and wrapped up in the children
That, you know, she probably didn't notice it
Like we did from the outside.
- By the fall of 2010, said kathleen,
Vashti was miserable, again.
She was feeling depressed then,
And so she and brett started seeing a therapist
Together and alone,
But things didn't get any better.
And so, in the spring of 2011,
Vashti filed for divorce.
- This wasn't a spontaneous,
"oh, I think I'll just get divorced,"
And I know she had thought it through well enough.
- She'd had enough of him and told kathleen so.
- She said, "he's a grandiose narcissist, and it--
"it's not going to get better.
"it's not going to change."
- But was vashti depressed, as brett was saying?
Not anymore, said kathleen and rich.
They talked to her all the time, they said,
And though she was sad about the divorce,
She was looking forward finally to a happier life.
She felt liberated, they said, was excited
About her job, was losing weight,
Starting new friendships.
And planning a vacation with you.
- And a concert, and a hawaii trip,
And a springfield trip,
And we had just gone shopping the week before,
And the clothes were still in the bag
At her house.
In fact, she had so many things lined out for us to do
That I was thinking I can't keep up with her.
- So, they didn't buy brett's story at all.
- She was not depressed. She was anything but.
- The Wednesday before vashti died,
When brett was served with the divorce papers,
She spent that night with their sons at a friend's house
And was going to stay there until Friday
When brett was supposed to be out of the house.
That was the plan, said kathleen.
- He got a hold of her on Thursday
And told her to come home, that she owed it to him
To let him say goodbye to his kids.
He told her he couldn't be out by Friday.
He had nowhere to go.
His parents didn't even know
They were contemplating divorce.
He didn't have any friends to go stay with.
He said he needed a few more days to get out.
Could she please come home
And let him tell his boys goodbye
And-and just talk?
I begged her to not go, and she said, "kathleen,
"my only way out is to try to reason with him."
And she said, "I'm not a monster.
"I'm-I'm not a monster. He has nowhere else."
- Rich talked to vashti that Friday about dinnertime.
- The whole conversation was, you know, "hey, sis,
"how are things goin' in light of the situation?"
And everything she said was,
"well, brett's havin' a really hard time with this,
"and brett's really struggling with this."
- It hurt her.
It hurt her that he was so torn up.
- And less than 12 hours later,
Vashti was dead.
Kathleen and rich told investigators
That's the truth as they saw it.
They were certain brett killed vashti,
Made it look like suicide, and because he was a man
Who actually trained law enforcement officers--
You were worried that because of his training,
He knew how to beat the system.
- Mm-hmm. - Oh, yeah,
He would brag about it. He had books.
You know, he knew how to do it.
- Coming up...
Brett seacat under scrutiny.
- If he bent over a-a bed that's on fire to get his wife,
I would expect his chest to have some type of singeing.
- Uh-huh.
- There was absolutely nothing.
- And a desperate family.
- I remember grabbing just somebody
That was working the scene, and I-I said,
"give me some hope," and he said,
"in this instance, justice will be served."
- When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
♪♪
- It's not always so straightforward
Determining from evidence what's suicide
And what's murder.
Brett said it was obviously suicide.
Her family said no way.
So, now investigators had to figure out
Who was right.
They scoured the wreck of the seacat house for clues.
- I remember grabbing one of the kbi or fire mar--
Just somebody that was working the scene,
And I-I said, "give me some hope.
"are-are you finding somethin'
"that's gonna let everybody know what happened?"
And I remember he looked at me, and he said,
"I will tell ya this.
"in this instance, justice will be served."
- But what did that mean?
As another investigator told them...
- Justice will be served
And maybe justice is, he didn't do it.
We don't have emotions in this.
We are here to collect facts.
- And collect they did,
Including a bit of unburned material
On the dining room table in the seacat home, quite odd.
- It was actually a powerpoint that included,
Uh, almost-almost like an instructor
Would be teaching a class on-on, uh,
Different types of death, uh, uh, suicides.
Uh, homicide I believe was listed on there,
Uh, fire, uh, blunt force trauma.
- Mm-hmm. - Things of that--
That an officer or investigator would be looking at
When they're investigating a death of some sort.
- Well, that might make sense, though, if it was--
If he's a teacher of policemen,
That he might have that in his house.
- Well, individually, that-that probably could be
Looked at as that.
- In fact, said brett, that's exactly what it was.
- It was paperwork that he'd brought home
From school or from class. - Yeah.
- That he had taken, I believe, in college,
And it was just scrap paper, and he had pulled it in there
Because, uh, on the- the night before the morning
She passed away, uh,
They'd been working on a budget,
And-and we did find what looked like,
Uh, somebody was preparing a budget
For their bills together
Because they had separate accounts.
So, they were-- he was trying to show
That he could help her out
In paying off some of these bills.
- And that was the activity in the evening
Before she died. - Correct.
- So, it was kind of a cooperative activity.
- According to mr. Seacat, yes.
- Also, brett said that when he ran into
The burning bedroom to try to save vashti,
He was only wearing pants, no shirt or shoes. So...
- I would have expected to see some type of injury to fire.
All we ended up finding when we photographed him later,
Was some very, very minor singeing on his legs from hair.
- Hmm.
- Um, you get more than that
If you're lighting a barbecue pit,
And you singe yourself,
And he had a couple of minor blisters on one of his feet.
Uh, if he bent over a-a bed that's on fire to get his wife,
I would expect his chest to have some type of singeing.
- Uh-huh.
- There was absolutely nothing.
- What's more, the kbi found a small amount of gasoline
On the pants he was wearing.
Suspicious? Maybe.
But proof of murder-- staging the scene?
Not even close.
There was an autopsy, of course,
The results of which could be seen as suspicious or not.
- There was no soot in her airway or in her lungs.
That would indicate that there were no breaths taken
Prior to the fire,
Uh, kind of getting into the atmosphere.
- Fire was lit after she was dead.
- You could make that assumption.
- Is it possible that she could have poured
The accelerant around these various places
In the house, lit them all, hopped back into bed,
Covered herself up, shot herself,
And then died with--
And still had no- no soot in her lungs?
I mean, the fires are just getting started.
- It's-it's possible,
But if she's made that decision
To go to that length,
Uh, I would expect that she would be very excited.
Her respirations would be very-very rapid.
- Mm-hmm.
- And so, she would be breathing heavy. Um--
- There'd be something in her lungs,
Some kind of indication.
- There would be my experience,
As I've worked multiple fatality fires over the years.
- But atf investigators' opinion aside,
Facts are facts,
And the coroner said there just weren't enough of them
To determine whether vashti's death was homicide
Or suicide,
Just too much fire damage to know for sure.
So, agent falletti and his team poked around
For whatever circumstantial evidence there might be.
They went to where brett worked
And were told by co-workers
At the law enforcement training center
That on the day before vashti died,
Brett took two computer hard drives
To the maintenance shop there
And asked how to destroy them.
- And ultimately, they showed him a torch,
And he used a torch to, uh,
Basically an oxy- oxy acetylene torch,
Uh, that burns at a very high temperature.
- Mm-hmm. - He used that to-
To torch the hard drives.
- And then threw them away, two different trash cans,
Along with a couple of cell phones,
Which he had first pulled apart.
Troubling.
On the other hand,
Wasn't like he was skulking around
Or hiding any of that unusual activity.
He even asked his colleagues for help.
So, back to the house and the neighborhood around it.
Door to door went falletti and his team of investigators,
And three doors down from the seacat house
Was a woman who said she was having trouble
Sleeping that night, and so was awake
In the wee hours watching tv in her living room.
- And at some point, she believes she heard
What was a gunshot,
Um, and she believed that was sometime before
The fire trucks and the police officers showed up
In front of the- the seacat residence.
- Exactly when each of those things happened
She couldn't say for sure, but reviewing the tv show
She'd been watching, she could tell them
Which scene was playing when she heard that gunshot,
And that's how the kbi was able to determine
The gun went off long before brett called 911.
- We believed it was about 30-35 minutes prior to,
Uh, mr. Seacat calling 911,
Is when she heard that- that gunshot.
- Giving him time to do something.
- Right.
- And the atf's monty discovered the fire
Was not simply a matter of lighting the bed on fire.
Was that where the fire was started?
- In my opinion, there were multiple fires
Started on the second floor of the residence.
- Interesting...
But it didn't rule out the possibility
That vashti herself started the fires.
- There was a lot of things in limbo, at that point.
- Yes, but their suspicions pointed in one direction,
Toward brett seacat, who was going from grieving,
Guilt-ridden widower...
To a serious person of interest,
Which his half-brother, bobby,
Found preposterous, especially when it came
To what the kbi thought was brett's suspicious behavior
At the training center.
As a former cop and cop trainer himself,
Bobby just knew his brother didn't do it.
- When you are in law enforcement,
And you know about identity theft,
Those are things you do.
You break cell phones, and you burn hard drives.
Not only was he well-versed in identity theft,
He was a-a substitute instructor of it.
I think, in hindsight,
If he had known what was about to happen
That very night,
He wouldn't have thrown cell phones away.
He wouldn't have burned hard drives.
He would not have done anything,
And he especially wouldn't have spent the night
In that house.
- Because it would draw attention to him--
Make him look guilty. - Absolutely.
- Was it just appearances, or was it more than that?
- Coming up...
- Things are-are just not looking good,
And they're addin' up to--
That you had somethin' to do with this, brett.
We need to know why.
- Oh, no, there's- there's no why, okay?
I didn't do this.
- Anger and accusations.
- Did you hurt her? - No.
- Did you pull the trigger? - No.
- Did you kill her? - No!
- When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
♪♪
- Welcome back to "dateline: Secrets uncovered."
I'm kate snow.
Investigators looking into the death of vashti seacat
Were starting to suspect that her husband, brett,
Was withholding a secret.
They found it curious that he escaped the burning bedroom
With only minor injuries
And that he torched hard drives and cell phones
The day before the fire.
It was time to confront brett with some facts.
Here, again, is keith morrison
With "up in flames."
- When brett seacat arrived for that chat with investigators
Looking into the death of his wife, vashti,
It was as if he could finally relax
After the worst two weeks of his life.
- Honestly, talking to you guys distracts me
From all the thoughts that eat me up of late.
So, actually, I do better in this room.
- I did little talking.
I did very few questions.
We basically just let mr. Seacat go,
And he talked for multiple hours.
- Brett knew the rules, of course,
Had to know he was very much a person of interest,
But he was content to chat back and forth
For something like seven hours.
Didn't bring a lawyer with him.
Didn't ask for one.
Even when the investigators zeroed in
On what they saw as holes in his story.
- Things just aren't addin' up.
- Okay.
- I think-I think you know that.
We just wanna make sure we get all the facts right
And-and get to the truth.
- Tell me what you wanna know.
- Brett willingly answered almost every question they had.
Like, why there was no real evidence on his body
To back up his story of what he did the night vashti died.
- You had no blood on you
When you supposedly picked her up in the bed
And held her to ya close.
You had no blood on ya.
- No, I didn't hold her to me close. I held her--
- You had no fire on the bottom of your feet.
- No.
- If you walk through fire,
You should have some kind of injuries
Besides a small injury on the top of one of your feet.
- I don't know why the bottom of my feet aren't burnt.
I had some sort of weird black charring.
- Mm-hmm.
- But you guys have pictures of that.
Did I know that I stepped in any fire?
I don't.
- The investigators were also starting to think
That the note in the journal was forged.
- But to be honest with you,
When I looked at that-that notebook,
I'm going this ain't right because--
- [indistinct].
- Well, it slants one way part of the time,
And it slants the other way part of the time,
And the b's were different.
Just telling you what I observed.
- It looks-looks like her handwriting to me,
But it's not my handwriting.
- Or why on the Friday before vashti died,
Besides destroying hard drives and cell phones,
Brett spent time in his office with the door locked,
Which was pretty unusual at the training center.
- Oh, my god! You know why it was looked?
Oh, screw you.
I was crying.
- You had the door locked, and what was you lookin' at?
- At my divorce papers.
- Problem is, brett, you're in love.
You're still in love with her.
- Yeah, I am.
- And she was gonna leave you.
There was no doubt about that.
- That's not why you kill people.
- Well, some people do.
- You have no idea how impossible it is
For me to kill her. - Well, the reason--
- But could he answer the central question?
Explain the thing that didn't make sense to anybody.
Why vashti, even if she was intent on suicide,
Why she would destroy the house, too?
Why set it on fire?
- She really, uh, did not like that house,
And we were gonna have to fix it up,
And we didn't particularly have the-have the money
Or resources to fix it up.
- Mm-hmm. - And she-- that's--
She started really hating that house.
- But at its heart, said brett,
Vashti's reason might well have had more to do with vanity.
- She was a very, very beautiful girl,
And-and always thought about what people would see.
I think she mighta shot herself
And then assumed that her face would be really messed up.
So she lit a fire and shot herself.
- Sitting just a couple of feet away,
Agent falletti all but shook his head
And said he didn't believe it.
- We asked him if he thought, if he was sitting in my shoes,
Interviewing me,
And saw the things that we saw
And heard what he had told us,
Would he think that, uh, things just didn't add up?
- Oh, god, guys.
- But you see where we're comin' from, don't ya?
- Yeah, I see where you're comin' from.
I mean, this is 100 times worse
Than what I had pictured in my mind.
Uh, before, I just thought I-I lacked any evidence.
And now you're saying
There's a lot of evidence that I never...
Knew existed.
That looks real bad. - Well, the heart of--
Just things are-are just not looking good,
And they're addin' up to
That you had somethin' to do with this, brett,
And we need to know why.
- Oh, no, there's-there's no why, okay?
I didn't do this.
I love vashti.
- I'm sure you did.
- Do. - I'm sure you still do.
But people do things to people they love.
- I wouldn't (bleep) my kids like this, ever.
I wouldn't (bleep) her family.
I wouldn't (bleep) my family.
I don't-- I didn't wanna give up vash.
I fought hard to try and keep us together.
- In fact, said brett, if he had murdered vashti,
He'd have made a better job of it.
- I'm smart enough that if I wanted to kill my wife,
It would've been a lot--
I could've come up with somethin' better than this.
This is ----ing insane.
This is what a crazy person does.
- No, not necessarily.
Crazy in love, crazy for his kids, yeah.
- Don't try and twist it around.
- No, I'm not.
- Then falletti got to the point.
- Well, did you hurt her? - No.
- Did you pull the trigger? - No.
- Did you kill her? - No!
- Brett left the station then.
Went to be with his boys
And whatever his thoughts may have been,
But not for long.
Because no matter how adamant brett's denials were,
They just didn't add up to the kbi.
However depressed brett said vashti was,
It made no sense she would've lit the house on fire
With her two sleeping sons in harm's way.
The next day, brett seacat was taken into custody.
He was formerly charged three days later.
- Brett t. Seacat did then and there unlawfully,
Feloniously, intentionally,
And with premeditation kill vashti s. Seacat.
Your bond is $1 million.
- He was also charged with arson
And endangering his children.
Brett could not make bond, and so remained in jail
To await a jury's decision about what really happened
In the seacat home in kingman, kansas,
In the early hours of April 30th, 2011.
- Coming up... The note.
- Some of his actions were reckless
Because the clock was winding down.
- The gun.
- How did it end up completely underneath her body
When she was sleeping on her side?
- The threats.
- She said, "do you think brett would burn the house down
"with me in it?"
And I-I was taken aback by that,
And I said, "not with the kids at home."
- The prosecutors come on strong.
- And so, when those threats didn't work,
He had to kill her to maintain control.
- When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
♪♪
- As kingman coped with the tragedy in its midst,
The smallest victims of the vashti and brett seacat story
Endured what horrors we cannot imagine.
Kathleen left her home in oklahoma
To help care for vashti's young sons,
Shortly after her sister died.
And perhaps more than anyone,
She was learning what violent death
Could do to a family.
- We held those babies all night.
They would wake up.
They were traumatized by the fire.
- Sure.
- So, to rock the little two-and-a-half year old,
Begging you, "please ask jesus.
"please bring my mommy back. I'll be good,
"I need a mommy."
That breaks your heart.
And this went on for a long time at night.
Sobbing for hours.
- Those poor kids.
I mean, you're trying to process that mommy's gone forever,
And-and these people over here think mommy killed herself.
And these people over here think my daddy shot my mommy.
- The trial to decide one way or the other
Finally began in may 2013.
Two years after the fire.
Two years in which the local media
Covered the seacat case in a big way.
- It's looking like brett seacat will finally face trial
For the death of vashti seacat.
- Brett was entitled to ask to have his trial
Moved to another county,
Which might have been less saturated
With news of the case against him,
But he elected to keep it right here
In kingman's historic courthouse.
A mere two blocks from his ruined home.
- The defendant intentionally and with premeditation
Committed the murder of his wife, vashti seacat.
- But for all the talk that had been around town,
Then assistant attorney general amy hanley
Had precious little hard evidence to draw upon.
Not even an autopsy report to wave around
Because the coroner hadn't labeled vashti's death a homicide.
No, the evidence was not hard.
It was circumstantial.
In other words, hanley will be asking the jury
To look at all the circumstances,
Then put two and two together.
- He got his .44 magnum ruger redhawk revolver.
He approached her in bed while she was sleeping.
He shot her in the head.
He set fire to at least two places in the house
To cover up his actions.
And he did all of this while their two young sons,
Brendan and bronson seacat, were in the home.
- The motive?
Quite simple, said the prosecution.
Brett did not want a divorce,
But he did want custody of his sons,
And he would do what it took,
Even kill vashti, to keep them.
Their marriage counselor took the stand.
- He said that he felt like vashti was going to run.
He could just feel it,
That she was going to leave him.
Um, and that if she divorced him,
She was divorcing the entire seacat family,
Including the children.
And that he would take the children,
And she would never see them,
Even if it meant leaving the country.
So, I told him it was not legal,
That it wasn't going to help the children.
It would hurt them a great deal.
That they needed access to both their parents.
- Did you talk to him about divorced couples
Having two households? - Yes.
- And what was brett's comments about that?
He said he'd seen children of divorce,
And he didn't think it was worse for them
To have just one parent or one household.
He thought it was better.
- And as for brett's claim that vashti died by suicide,
The therapist said
She didn't believe it for a second.
- I asked her whether she, uh, would commit suicide.
And she said, "no."
And the second was that she couldn't do that to her boys.
That she just loved being a mom.
She couldn't- she couldn't leave them.
They needed her.
- The prosecutors showed the jury
A photo of the contents of vashti's purse,
Which contained that post-it note
Listing various costs, including funeral expenses.
- Vashti seacat, as all of her friends and family testified,
Was a very organized person
As both a mother and in her career at work.
And that list is simply somebody planning out
What they might do in their future
When they're going to get divorced,
Which we know vashti seacat was doing.
- Prosecutors also showed jurors the powerpoint papers
Found on the dining room table.
The presentation about homicide, suicides, and fire.
True, brett was a law enforcement trainer,
Said the prosecutor, but those were not his subjects.
- He was not teaching arson.
He wasn't teaching homicide.
He wasn't teaching wound evidence.
- No, what those materials proved,
Said the prosecutor, was premeditation.
It was brett's deadly homework.
But what about that last entry in her journal?
The one that read like a final farewell.
Forged, said the state, by brett.
Thing is, said the handwriting expert,
It wasn't well done.
Look closely, he said.
That slight shakiness.
He called that...
- The term we use in documents, it's tremor of fraud.
- The tremor of fraud,
And it appeared, said the prosecution,
That brett forged that note the day before vashti died.
The same day he was torching hard drives.
The same day he asked a staff member at the training center
Where he could find an overhead projector.
Something so outdated, it was in storage.
The prosecutor said it appeared brett used
The projection light to recreate vashti's writing
In the journal.
- Some of his actions were reckless
Because the clock was winding down.
- Vashti had told brett he could stay in the house
Until noon Sunday, the prosecutor said.
She was planning to go out Saturday evening in wichita,
And spend the night there.
- Well, it's Friday. It's Friday evening.
This was his last opportunity,
While they lived in the home together,
To kill vashti.
- Then there was the lack of evidence
Where there should have been some,
If this were a suicide, that is.
- Did you find any soot in the airways?
- No.
- Any soot in the lungs? - No.
- The autopsy finding that vashti seacat had no soot
In her lungs, in her airways,
And that there was no carbon monoxide in her blood,
That was a key piece of evidence for the prosecution.
Because what it showed,
What the jury could infer from that,
Was that vashti seacat didn't breathe in any smoke.
And if she didn't breathe in any smoke,
The fire was set...
...After she was dead. - After she was dead.
And something else. Weird little detail.
And yet, according to the prosecution,
It was telling.
When she died, vashti's bladder was quite full.
- There probably would have been a urinary urgency
Or the, um, need to go to the restroom.
- And the importance of that for the evidence
Is that the claim from brett seacat
Is that vashti is walking around the house,
Setting these fires, holding her breath,
Not breathing any smoke,
While she has a strong urge to urinate.
That doesn't make sense.
That's something that the jury needed to decide
Whether or not, in their common sense and experience,
Whether they thought that made any sense at all.
- Just another point to add to the unlikelihood
Of this whole story that he was telling.
- That's right.
- The claimed suicide weapon didn't make sense either,
Said the prosecutor,
.44 magnum ruger redhawk.
Such a big, heavy gun.
- If she killed herself,
How was she able to get that heavy handgun up to her head
And pull the trigger,
And do so in just the right downward angle
That it slices right through her spinal cord?
- What would-- - and that there was some kick,
Some recoil to the gun. - Mm-hmm.
- How did it end up completely underneath her body
When she was sleeping on her side?
- The prosecutor said the angle of the bullet proved one thing.
- That's consistent with someone standing over her
While she was sleeping, shooting her.
- Because, said the prosecutor,
Because that's what he said he would do.
Brett not only woke vashti up one night
To tell her he had a dream that he killed her,
But friends and colleagues testified about
What they told the kbi.
That in the weeks before she died,
Vashti told them that, incredibly,
Brett threatened to kill her and burn the house down
And make it look like suicide.
- She said, "do you think brett would burn the house down
"with me in it?"
And I-I was taken aback by that,
And I said, "not with the kids at home."
- Tragedy was, said the prosecutor,
Vashti didn't believe him, either.
- And so, when those threats didn't work,
He had to kill her to maintain control of her.
- In other words, said the prosecutor,
Planned, premeditated murder.
Looks bad for brett, doesn't it?
But then you haven't heard the bombshell
The defense had in store.
- Brett's attorneys are about to take jurors
Behind closed doors of a marriage
On the verge of implosion.
Coming up...
- Vashti had confided in brett
That she had rekindled a romantic relationship
That she was having with one of the executives
At cox communication.
- An affair.
That wasn't the only surprise ahead.
- What other mistakes did they make?
There's something about the investigation that stinks.
- When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
- Brett seacat, unable to pay a lawyer to represent him,
Was lucky in one particular way.
His court appointed defense attorneys
Just happened to be veterans of murder cases.
Val wachtel and roger falk, who opened.
- My grandmother used to love to put together jigsaw puzzles.
- Men who understood perfectly well
That the puzzle didn't always go together
The way the prosecution tried to make it look.
- There's a second side to this story.
And that is that vashti seacat,
Depressed and confronted with either losing her career
Or staying in the marriage,
Decided instead to take her own life.
- But why would she do that?
Here came the bombshell.
- Vashti had confided in brett
That she had rekindled a romantic relationship
That she was having with one of the executives
At cox communication.
- Vashti, claimed the defense,
Was having an affair with a cox vice president,
And the evening before vashti died,
Brett gave her an ultimatum.
Stay in the marriage or he'd expose her affair.
That threat, along with brett's vow to take the children,
Said the defense, were the triggers
That sent an already depressed woman over the edge.
- She suffered from absolute depression.
What can depression lead you to?
Among the various things that can go wrong,
Suicide is one.
- Under cross-examination by attorney wachtel,
The seacats' therapist testified that vashti
Had a history of what she called depressive symptoms,
Starting when her brother died in an accident
When she was young.
- Major depressive disorder would be that occurring
More than once for a longer period of time.
Possibly in a pattern.
- And with regard to what you wrote down
Regarding mrs. Seacat,
Were you describing a episode or a disorder?
- I was describing that this was an episode,
But there had been others prior.
- A lot of folks think that if you were depressed a week ago,
But you ain't been depressed since,
You are cured.
Now, I got their expert to say that isn't the way it works.
- Nor is it possible to anticipate
If or when a depressed person might take their own life,
Admitted the therapist,
Even when someone is making future plans, as vashti was,
Suicide is still possible, the defense argued.
Mind you, they're about to say
It also wouldn't have been the first time for vashti.
Or, at least, brett was ready to claim
She had attempted suicide before.
- Brett wanted to testify about the suicide attempts
That vashti had made on herself.
Judge said, "well, show me the evidence of this."
And I-- we-we had looked, and looked, and looked,
And could not find the hospital records.
- You looked high and low. Couldn't find anything.
- Couldn't find hospital records that far back.
But-but that should be no surprise to anybody
Because hospitals don't keep records anymore.
- Even so, by judge's order,
Brett would not be allowed to make that claim in court.
And what about the post-it note found in vashti' purse,
The one that listed funeral expenses?
- It could very well be, uh,
That that is her figuring out what things cost
And whether or not insurance is gonna cover it.
That's what I think it could be.
- But who-- - but who knows?
- Yeah. - Nobody knows.
Prosecution doesn't know.
I don't know.
- But it has some significance, you think?
- Well, you certainly could-could portray it
As being significant, right?
You could also portray it as being a load of hogwash.
- Right.
But remember how the prosecution argued that
Vashti's suicide note found in her journal was a forgery,
Probably committed by brett?
The defense had a handwriting expert of its own
Who concluded that vashti did, in fact, write the note.
And brett asking for that overhead projector at work
Hours before vashti died?
Attorney wachtel cross-examined brett's co-worker,
The one who helped him find it.
- And mr. Seacat was not the least bit secretive
When he asked you this question?
- No, he was not.
- He goes and asks someone
To help him find an overheard projector.
He-- those people take him up to where it is.
He carries it down from there,
In full view of anybody who is possibly in that place,
And he carries it back.
Now, that sounds like somebody
Who didn't have anything to hide.
- And what about the state's point
That no soot was found in vashti's lungs?
Under cross-examination,
The coroner allowed that it could be possible,
Under the defense scenario,
That vashti lit a fire just before killing herself.
- If someone lit a fire and shot themselves within seconds,
Would you expect to see soot in their lungs?
- Not necessarily, no.
- As for the powerpoint found on the seacat's dining room table,
The one that discussed homicide, and suicide,
And fire investigations,
Meaningless, said the defense.
- What the prosecution would have you assume, right,
Is that this really, really smart, uh, cop
Was stupid enough to be lookin' at all of this stuff
The night he tries to burn the house down.
Please.
I certainly wouldn't try to-to hide evidence
By setting a house,
Four blocks from the fire department, on fire,
And praying, right, that they would not get there
Until the whole thing had burned to the ground.
Uh, that's silly.
It's just silly.
- What's more, brett said,
Most of the powerpoint printout
Had been in a tray in another room as scrap paper.
That the kbi must have moved those papers to the table
Just to make it look suspicious.
Like they made brett's use
Of an overhead projector suspicious,
And his destroying cell phones
And computer hard drives seem suspicious.
It's all too ridiculous said the defense.
- The state wanted you to believe that he was
Trying to destroy evidence of a crime.
What evidence did he try to destroy?
They never say what evidence he tried to destroy.
Now, this guy is such a... Such a super criminal
That where does he go to destroy that?
He goes to the kansas law enforcement training center,
Which is full of what?
Former cops.
And he gets somebody to help him destroy those things.
[chuckles]
Now, if you wanted to destroy those things,
There are innumerable farm ponds.
If you wanted to get rid of that,
You throw it into a farm pond, and nobody will ever find it.
- In fact, the state's whole investigation,
Said the defense, was, at best, incompetent.
Maybe worse.
Brett and attorney wachtel claimed that vashti's car
Disappeared from the crime scene for three days,
Even though the entire seacat yard
Was supposed to have been sealed off, a crime scene.
They showed the jury a series of photos
Taken from different vantage points,
Which, the defense argued,
Made it look like the car had been moved
In the days after the fire.
This neighbor lived right across the street
From the seacat driveway.
- When you first observed the driveway,
Was the volkswagen there? - No.
- It was not? - No.
- Do you remember seeing it in that driveway ever again?
- Uh, three days later.
- Three days later. - But you didn't see--
If I understand your testimony,
You didn't see anybody bring it back.
- No.
- I think he was telling the truth.
If I thought he was lyin', I wouldn't have been him on.
To me, it implies that the investigation itself is faulty.
How do you let somebody get into the crime scene
And drive it away?
- So, it was either gross incompetence or intentional.
- My opinion would be, it's both.
Uh, and if that happened,
Then what other mistakes did they make?
There's something about the investigation that stinks.
- Just smelled bad, said wachtel.
That the state claimed it found gasoline on brett's pants
When the defense expert said...
- I would not make a determination
That it's gasoline.
- And maybe worst of all, he said,
The kansas bureau of investigation did not even
Bother checking for gunshot residue on brett's hands.
The test, the defense claimed, would have revealed
If he actually fired that gun that night.
- If you've ever seen what that gun looks like,
Everything comes out the side of that cylinder.
- Right.
- So, that stuff goes somewhere.
And-and onto your skin is where you're lookin' for it at.
Yet-- - they didn't look.
- They didn't look. - But these are--
He's a cop. They're a cop.
- Brett seacat doesn't have much faith in the kbi.
- Your honor, the defense would call brett t. Seacat
To the witness stand.
- But the star witness for the defense
Would be the last witness, brett seacat himself.
- Cold-blooded killer or grieving husband?
Brett seacat pleads his case to the jury.
Coming up...
- I didn't think it was appropriate
To be dragging my wife's name through the mud.
- Did you love vashti?
- I love vashti.
- Did you kill vashti?
- No, I did not.
- Brett's story from the stand. His life on the line.
- Uh, in my heart of hearts,
I know that it wouldn't have made any difference
What anybody said to brett
Because brett wanted to testify.
- When "dateline secrets uncovered" continues.
- Welcome back.
Brett seacat's defense team had dropped a bombshell.
Claiming his wife, vashti, was having an affair.
When brett threatened to expose her secret
And take the couple's children,
They argued it drove vashti to end her life.
Now, brett was ready to back up those allegations
On the witness stand.
Back to keith morrison with "up in flames."
- You may come forward and be sworn, please, sir.
- It is... Call it unusual for a defendant to testify
At his own murder trial.
Dangerous, his lawyer might advise,
To subject himself to the aggressive questions
Of a skilled prosecutor.
But...
- Uh, in my heart of hearts,
I know that it wouldn't have made any difference
What anybody said to brett
Because brett wanted to testify.
- Yeah. - He wanted to.
Uh, he had to.
He believed that-that-that if people just listened,
The truth would out.
- Mr., seacat, will you tell us your full name, please?
- Brett theodore seacat.
- At his own request, no video was taken of him.
Audio recording only.
As brett set out with confidence
To tell the jury what happened
Beginning 21 hours or so before the fire.
- On that morning, uh, when I said goodbye,
Um, she said, "see ya tonight,"
And actually gave me a big kiss,
Which I thought was odd.
- Why'd you think that was odd?
- Um, because in the last week, week and a half,
Uh, we had been back and forth about 50 times on divorce.
And so, it just let me know that we were back on
The not divorce track.
- But by the time he returned to the house that evening,
Said brett, things had changed.
- I couldn't figure why she was--
She was in a-a big hurry to get a divorce,
Which was somethin' that had never happened before.
I told her we haven't really worked on
Our marriage very much.
My angle in the- in the discussion was,
I'll give you a collaborative divorce
If we work on the marriage for three to six months.
- Brett said vashti seemed to agree to that,
Especially when he made it clear what he'd do
If she went forward with the divorce right then.
- Basically, I told her if this goes to court
That, uh... That I was gonna do everything--
Everything in my power to destroy her.
- Brett told the jury things he'd never told the kbi investigators.
That he threatened to share private photos of her,
And that vashti had several recent affairs,
Including one with the executive at cox,
And that brett threatened to expose her.
As for why he didn't tell the kbi earlier
About those alleged affairs?
- I didn't think it was appropriate
To be dragging my wife's name through the mud.
- As it was, brett and his defense team
Didn't put on any evidence
About an affair with the cox executive
Or with anybody, for that matter.
And then his lawyer finished with the key questions.
- Did you love vashti?
- I love vashti.
- Did you kill vashti? - No, I did not.
- Did you pull the trigger on the ruger redhawk
That resulted in the bullet going through her neck
And severing her spine?
- No, I did not.
- So, his direct testimony, hours of it,
Seemed to go pretty well.
But now, of course, here came the prosecutor
To put him on the spot.
- Cross-examination, miss hanley.
She wanted brett to explain how it was possible
For him to do what she thought was impossible.
Make that 911 call and stay on the phone
While trying to get vashti's body
Out of a burning house.
- How he was able to make that call
And talk to a dispatcher
While he was supposedly running up and down the stairs twice,
In smoke, in fire, wetting a rag,
Holding onto his phone, how he didn't drop the phone,
Fall, cough, gasp.
Turn the water faucet on. Grab the dishcloth.
- Yes, ma'am.
- You're holding your cell phone, too.
- I don't think I'm holding it to my ear,
But it's certainly still in my hand.
- Well, you're talking to 911 at this time, right?
- You're-you're correct.
It must have been to my ear. - Okay.
- I just don't remember that element of it.
- And then she asked him about the divorce.
- Vashti wanted the divorce, right?
- Depends on which ten minutes you talk to her.
- And when she told you that she was thinking about divorce,
That's when you would threaten her.
- I'm sorry?
- When vashti told you she wanted a divorce,
You'd threaten her, wouldn't you?
- No, vashti never-- we talked about divorce a lot,
But the first time that I found out vashti wanted a divorce
Was when she told me that she had filed.
- And then, then, point blank, she accused him of murder.
- You threatened to kill vashti, burn the house down,
And make it look like she committed a suicide.
- I absolutely have never said anything
Even remotely like that.
- You never made that threat to vashti.
- Absolutely not. - Okay.
You killed your wife, didn't you?
- No, ma'am.
- You shot her in the head.
- Impossible.
- You burnt the house down around her.
- I would never burn our house.
- And you did it while your two kids,
Two years and four years old, were in the house.
- Absolutely not.
I would never expose my children
To any situation like that.
- The investigation was thorough in this case,
And the kbi agents looked for any sign that would lead us
To a different conclusion
Than that brett seacat killed his wife.
And all the evidence that was uncovered
And all the evidence presented at trial by both sides
Led to that conclusion.
- Vashti's family was upset about things brett said
On the stand about vashti's character,
But they said they found his testimony revealing.
- I was almost embarrassed
That he was still claiming he was innocent,
When there were just so many things
That would have had to have lined up perfectly,
That would have had to have been a fluke.
- But brett's brother, bobby,
Felt the trial only confirmed what he had always believed.
- I left that courtroom 100% convinced that he didn't do it.
- Up to the jury now.
- Your head's spinning, at that point,
Because you realize this is it.
It's-- and it was scary.
- Coming up...
Double drama in the courtroom.
The verdict.
- Ladies and gentlemen, have you reached a verdict?
- Yes, we have, your honor.
- And something even the judge never saw coming.
When "dateline: Secrets uncovered" continues.
- There's no rule of thumb, nothing that works anyway,
To allow a person to successfully predict
A jury's verdict
Based on the time it takes to make it.
Brett seacat's jury deliberated six hours.
What did that mean?
Brother, bobby, was nervous, of course,
But had a good feeling.
- I think that the state, in every respect,
Failed to prove and make their case.
- Ladies and gentlemen, have you reached a verdict?
- Yes, we have, your honor.
- We, the jury, find the defendant, brett t. Seacat,
Guilty of murder in the first degree.
- Guilty on all counts.
The reaction in the courtroom was muted.
- It was a strange mixture of emotions
Because there-there was this part of you that thought...
When they say "guilty",
I-I'm just gonna get all this off my chest,
And I'm gonna feel good.
But then there's this big part of you that realizes,
At the end of the day, it didn't bring her back.
- The truth is, everybody was just as hurt.
No one won.
So, you think...
Why am I not feeling better?
Because what got better?
He is behind bars, and he needs to be behind bars,
But the lives that it affected will forever be affected.
- Brett's lawyer, val wachtel,
All but said, "I knew it," because...
- I don't think mr. Seacat got a fair trial
In kingman, kansas,
And I will never think that.
- But it was brett who insisted on being tried in his hometown,
And, in his lawyer's view, he paid the price.
- I'm certainly not blamin' the jury, right?
- Yeah. - It-it-it just, to me,
Became patently obvious that this jury
Did not exactly look kindly upon mr. Seacat.
It was gonna be an uphill battle.
- It was an uphill battle before we even got started.
- Yeah.
But agent falletti saw things very differently indeed.
- I believe mr. Seacat believed
That whole house was gonna go up in flames,
And law enforcement and fire
Were not gonna find very much there.
And that he knew this local police department,
And they probably would just think it was what he said it was
And-and go on about their business.
Uh, but the kingman police department
And the sheriff's office called in other agencies to assist.
- Right. - And fortunately,
For vashti and her family, we were able to find evidence
To convict him of these charges.
- But brett seacat is an unusual man.
Adamant that he is innocent,
Certain that he was set up by the state,
Which was out to get him,
By in-laws who didn't like him,
And even by the judge.
In fact, particularly the judge,
Which became abundantly clear at brett's sentencing
When, seemingly out of the blue,
Brett lashed out with a truly remarkable,
Incendiary, venomous attack against judge solomon.
- This day belongs to you, judge solomon.
This is your day.
This is the day you get to take your place
In front of the cameras and pass sentence on a man
You worked so hard to convict, a man you know was innocent,
But a man you had to help convict,
So you could get this day, your day.
So, go ahead and collect your 30 pieces of silver,
Judge solomon.
Go ahead and sell custody of my little boys
To vashti's family.
Go ahead and pass sentence you think will land you a spot
On the kansas supreme court.
Go ahead and pass the sentence
That guarantees your spot in hell.
Just like amy hanley, jeff newsum,
And those 12 jurors,
You're going to hell for what you've done in this case.
Your corrupt decisions will bring an appeal.
The evidence will be presented, and I will be freed.
And with that, I'll step aside and let you have your day.
After all, you purchased it with your soul,
So you've earned it.
- What did you make of that, of his statement?
- I liked the fact that he said what he thought.
When you believe you are innocent,
Why not say you are innocent?
Why not say what you think was wrong?
You know, say it 'cause it isn't gonna make any difference.
- Did it?
Here's how the judge responded.
- I heard a few things I didn't anticipate.
I won't bother addressing them
Because they're so bizarre.
They don't deserve a response.
They merely affirm to me
That a jury of 12 kingman county citizens
Made the appropriate decision in this case.
You claim to be vashti's protector,
And in the next breath, on the stand, said,
The evening in question, you would destroy her.
At trial, you made every effort possible
To drag her name, and her memory,
And her reputation through the mud.
Vashti was not indecisive about divorcing you.
She was not depressed, and she was not suicidal.
The families hit it on the head,
So did several witnesses at trial.
About you being arrogant, about you being controlling,
About you being self-centered and narcissistic.
You live in some sort of bizarre alternate reality.
You haven't admitted guilt.
You haven't admitted responsibility.
And you didn't, this morning,
Even express remorse
That vashti is no longer on this earth.
- And with that, he sentenced brett seacat
To the maximum allowed under kansas law.
He'll serve 30 years before his first shot at parole.
And now, now their once graceful home
Has been torn down.
The reputation of brett's family,
A family of lawmen, is tarnished.
And the seacat sons
Are growing up without either parent,
And will have the heavy burden of knowing their father
Was convicted of killing their mother, vashti.
The woman named for a queen.
- I miss her every day.
You know, just dumb things like seeing a dragonfly,
Or fireworks, or something.
It will-it will not go away.
I hope that I figure out
What my new life is gonna look like, at some point,
And I can accept it.
But, with time, they say it gets better.
I just think-- I just hope it does.
- That's all for this edition of
"dateline: Secrets uncovered."
I'm kate snow. Thanks for watching.