1 00:00:01,917 --> 00:00:02,833 - I'm Ana Garcia 2 00:00:03,208 --> 00:00:05,667 and this is "Beyond the Headlines: Toxic Love." 3 00:00:05,750 --> 00:00:09,375 - [John] It was a a typical Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. 4 00:00:09,458 --> 00:00:11,292 You know, where you have this beautiful nurse 5 00:00:11,375 --> 00:00:13,417 and then you've got this cold murderess 6 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:16,167 who could kill her husband and then dismember him. 7 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:19,000 - [Ana] Four tales of toxic love triangles. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 - Her brain was so deliriously in love 9 00:00:22,083 --> 00:00:23,417 that it was impossible for her 10 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:26,208 to truly see how this would destroy her life. 11 00:00:26,292 --> 00:00:29,208 - [Ana] Wives with devious plans. 12 00:00:29,333 --> 00:00:31,833 - She did not want her husband to be around. 13 00:00:31,875 --> 00:00:33,500 She wanted him to disappear. 14 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:37,167 - [Ana] And infatuations turned deadly. 15 00:00:37,208 --> 00:00:40,208 - He continued to get texts from her phone number 16 00:00:40,333 --> 00:00:43,583 and they became threatening and belligerent and obscene. 17 00:00:43,667 --> 00:00:46,875 - [Ana] While heartbroken loved ones are left behind 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,333 to pick up the pieces. 19 00:00:48,375 --> 00:00:51,917 - She came to me in my dream and she said, 20 00:00:52,042 --> 00:00:54,083 "Mom, it wasn't supposed to be this way. 21 00:00:54,083 --> 00:00:57,042 I had so many plans for my life." 22 00:00:57,125 --> 00:00:58,750 And that's when I knew for certain 23 00:00:58,875 --> 00:01:00,542 that she was no longer alive. 24 00:01:05,333 --> 00:01:08,625 - Few things test the strength of a romantic relationship 25 00:01:08,708 --> 00:01:10,500 like a love triangle. 26 00:01:10,625 --> 00:01:14,583 When a committed party of two suddenly turns into three, 27 00:01:14,667 --> 00:01:17,417 things can spiral into something much bigger 28 00:01:17,542 --> 00:01:21,625 and deadlier than anyone could ever imagine. 29 00:01:24,042 --> 00:01:25,500 In this next hour, 30 00:01:25,625 --> 00:01:29,417 we'll explore stories of real life toxic love triangles. 31 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:31,583 We'll hear about a wife and mother 32 00:01:31,667 --> 00:01:35,500 who went to gruesome extremes to get out of her marriage 33 00:01:35,625 --> 00:01:37,667 and a love-struck prison employee 34 00:01:37,708 --> 00:01:41,833 who risked it all for a convicted murderer. 35 00:01:41,875 --> 00:01:43,625 There's the case of a jilted woman 36 00:01:43,708 --> 00:01:48,000 who went to twisted lengths to eliminate a love rival. 37 00:01:48,042 --> 00:01:50,333 And finally, the heartbreaking story 38 00:01:50,417 --> 00:01:52,667 of a lonely young military wife 39 00:01:52,750 --> 00:01:56,375 who sought comfort in the arms of a killer. 40 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,292 Through the telling of their stories, 41 00:01:58,375 --> 00:02:01,667 we'll learn what it means to live a life beyond the trauma 42 00:02:01,708 --> 00:02:04,500 and beyond the headlines. 43 00:02:04,583 --> 00:02:07,542 (dramatic music) 44 00:02:13,375 --> 00:02:16,958 When Melanie and Bill McGuire got married in 1999, 45 00:02:17,042 --> 00:02:20,000 they seemed like a perfect match, 46 00:02:20,125 --> 00:02:22,167 two attractive and charismatic people 47 00:02:22,250 --> 00:02:24,083 with wicked senses of humor. 48 00:02:25,542 --> 00:02:28,125 Together, the McGuires made a nice life for themselves 49 00:02:28,208 --> 00:02:31,375 in New Jersey, welcoming two sons 50 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:33,833 and building successful careers, 51 00:02:33,917 --> 00:02:38,917 hers as a fertility nurse and his as an IT professional. 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,000 But in 2004, right after they closed on their dream home, 53 00:02:44,083 --> 00:02:45,542 Bill went missing. 54 00:02:46,417 --> 00:02:48,875 His dismembered remains, 55 00:02:49,042 --> 00:02:51,500 contained in three separate suitcases, 56 00:02:51,542 --> 00:02:56,250 washed ashore nearly 300 miles away in coastal Virginia. 57 00:02:57,875 --> 00:03:00,417 What unfolded in the days and weeks 58 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:03,042 after his murder would shock the nation 59 00:03:03,125 --> 00:03:06,125 and shatter this image of the McGuires 60 00:03:06,208 --> 00:03:07,833 as the perfect couple. 61 00:03:09,083 --> 00:03:10,667 - My name is John Glatt. 62 00:03:10,792 --> 00:03:13,792 I'm a true crime author and I know the case very well 63 00:03:13,875 --> 00:03:17,208 because I wrote the book "To Have and to Kill" about it. 64 00:03:19,958 --> 00:03:21,375 To the outside, 65 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:24,500 Melanie and Bill seemed like a very happy couple. 66 00:03:24,583 --> 00:03:26,333 For a while, they were really in love 67 00:03:26,375 --> 00:03:30,125 and they got married and they had the kids. 68 00:03:30,208 --> 00:03:32,083 They worked very, very long hours 69 00:03:32,167 --> 00:03:34,625 and then they kind of drifted apart, I think. 70 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:40,958 Melanie was hired to work for this fertility clinic 71 00:03:40,958 --> 00:03:46,167 and her boss was Dr. Bradley Miller who ran the program 72 00:03:47,333 --> 00:03:49,125 and he was a very, very successful doctor. 73 00:03:49,208 --> 00:03:50,875 He was becoming a millionaire. 74 00:03:52,208 --> 00:03:54,875 And Melanie and he gravitated together. 75 00:03:55,875 --> 00:03:57,583 They started an affair 76 00:03:57,708 --> 00:03:59,917 and that's really when the marriage plummeted. 77 00:04:01,250 --> 00:04:03,500 I think Bill really loved Melanie. 78 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:04,917 He loved being a father, 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,250 but Melanie wasn't content. 80 00:04:07,333 --> 00:04:08,958 She was looking for something else. 81 00:04:10,958 --> 00:04:15,500 The first suitcase washed up in Virginia Beach 82 00:04:15,542 --> 00:04:18,833 on May the 5th, 2004. 83 00:04:18,958 --> 00:04:23,833 The second one came five days later, a tourist found it. 84 00:04:23,917 --> 00:04:28,917 The third one came on May 16th and that washed up, too. 85 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,667 And by that time, everybody was expecting a third suitcase, 86 00:04:32,708 --> 00:04:34,750 so nobody tried to open it first, 87 00:04:34,833 --> 00:04:36,958 they just reported it to the police. 88 00:04:39,542 --> 00:04:42,875 Virginia Beach police came to New Jersey, 89 00:04:42,958 --> 00:04:46,458 interviewed Melanie, and were very, very suspicious 90 00:04:46,542 --> 00:04:48,292 because she immediately lawyered up. 91 00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:50,667 They tried to do whatever they could to investigate, 92 00:04:50,750 --> 00:04:53,333 but really they couldn't do much in Virginia Beach 93 00:04:53,417 --> 00:04:55,083 'cause the case was in New Jersey. 94 00:04:55,167 --> 00:04:57,042 It was multi-jurisdictional. 95 00:04:58,042 --> 00:05:01,000 But the New Jersey police didn't seem to be wanting 96 00:05:01,125 --> 00:05:02,583 to do very much about it. 97 00:05:02,667 --> 00:05:06,250 So Bill's sister, Cindy Ligosh, went to the press. 98 00:05:08,667 --> 00:05:10,542 Because of the publicity it got, 99 00:05:10,667 --> 00:05:14,208 the New Jersey Attorney General started taking a look at it 100 00:05:14,292 --> 00:05:16,667 and recruited Patty Prezioso 101 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,667 to investigate the whole matter. 102 00:05:20,167 --> 00:05:21,333 - When the case first came 103 00:05:21,417 --> 00:05:23,500 into the Attorney General's office, 104 00:05:23,625 --> 00:05:27,500 we learned from the Virginia Beach Police Department 105 00:05:27,583 --> 00:05:32,250 that Bill and his wife had closed on a home in New Jersey 106 00:05:32,375 --> 00:05:35,375 on the day that he was last known to be alive. 107 00:05:37,375 --> 00:05:42,417 We knew that his car was recovered in Atlantic City. 108 00:05:42,875 --> 00:05:48,542 We knew that the victim's wife had not formally reported him 109 00:05:48,708 --> 00:05:49,458 as missing. 110 00:05:51,542 --> 00:05:55,917 When there's a case that seems involved and detailed, 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,708 it is like solving a puzzle. 112 00:05:58,875 --> 00:06:02,833 The killer in this case was meticulous 113 00:06:02,875 --> 00:06:07,875 and it took using every forensic tool available at the time. 114 00:06:09,250 --> 00:06:10,750 With a lot of hard work, 115 00:06:10,833 --> 00:06:16,000 we were able to find piece after piece after piece 116 00:06:16,083 --> 00:06:18,542 and everything fit together 117 00:06:18,625 --> 00:06:21,625 and pointed directly at Melanie. 118 00:06:24,542 --> 00:06:27,250 The public was very captivated 119 00:06:27,333 --> 00:06:29,292 because the story was salacious 120 00:06:29,375 --> 00:06:33,375 and the defendant is visibly beautiful. 121 00:06:33,458 --> 00:06:36,250 She's well-spoken, she's smart, 122 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:39,375 and the media were encircling her. 123 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,000 My strategy with the case was to keep the jury focused 124 00:06:48,042 --> 00:06:49,500 on the evidence. 125 00:06:51,083 --> 00:06:55,500 There was a lot of noise that was in the courtroom. 126 00:06:55,542 --> 00:06:57,667 There was a defendant 127 00:06:57,708 --> 00:07:00,583 who was getting a lot of attention from the media. 128 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:04,708 There was Joe Tacopina representing her. 129 00:07:04,833 --> 00:07:08,000 - Joe Tacopina was probably the number one New York lawyer 130 00:07:08,083 --> 00:07:09,625 at that point. 131 00:07:09,708 --> 00:07:13,708 He was very suave and he was very, very good at what he did. 132 00:07:15,542 --> 00:07:18,167 - Joe is a wonderful attorney. 133 00:07:18,208 --> 00:07:21,167 He's also a big personality. 134 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:25,333 He knows how to put attention on him 135 00:07:25,417 --> 00:07:27,667 and how to put attention on other things. 136 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:31,125 But I wasn't presenting a case for the camera, 137 00:07:31,208 --> 00:07:33,583 I wasn't doing work for Court TV. 138 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:36,625 My work was to convince the people in the jury box 139 00:07:37,667 --> 00:07:40,542 and that was my sole and only focus. 140 00:07:43,208 --> 00:07:45,375 We all as humans wanna believe 141 00:07:45,375 --> 00:07:48,208 that people that commit despicable acts 142 00:07:48,292 --> 00:07:49,833 could not be likable. 143 00:07:52,042 --> 00:07:53,667 So was I concerned 144 00:07:53,750 --> 00:07:56,417 that that may influence the deliberations? 145 00:07:56,542 --> 00:07:58,000 Of course I was. 146 00:07:58,875 --> 00:08:02,125 - Well, the defense was that Melanie was totally innocent. 147 00:08:02,208 --> 00:08:04,375 She was a loving wife and mother. 148 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:07,375 And in fact, Bill was an inveterate drunkard 149 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:10,500 who gambled big money in Atlantic City 150 00:08:10,583 --> 00:08:13,000 and it had caught up to him. 151 00:08:13,042 --> 00:08:16,667 And they would do anything to try and portray Bill McGuire 152 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:18,958 as this terrible character. 153 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,833 - Everybody has multiple sides to them, 154 00:08:22,917 --> 00:08:25,667 and I don't mean to represent 155 00:08:25,708 --> 00:08:29,000 that Bill was any sort of a saint, 156 00:08:29,083 --> 00:08:33,208 but certainly from the evidence that we had at trial, 157 00:08:33,292 --> 00:08:36,083 he seemed like a very decent man 158 00:08:36,167 --> 00:08:40,083 who was driven by his desire to do well for his family. 159 00:08:41,833 --> 00:08:43,708 The evidence that you'll hear in this case will be 160 00:08:43,792 --> 00:08:46,708 almost completely circumstantial. 161 00:08:46,833 --> 00:08:49,625 There will be no witness that comes to the witness stand 162 00:08:49,708 --> 00:08:51,875 and tells you "I saw her do it." 163 00:08:53,708 --> 00:08:55,333 - What made it particularly challenging 164 00:08:55,375 --> 00:08:57,042 for the prosecution was 165 00:08:57,167 --> 00:09:00,750 that it was basically a total circumstantial case. 166 00:09:00,833 --> 00:09:04,542 There was no actual murder scene or crime scene. 167 00:09:04,625 --> 00:09:06,083 The gun was never found. 168 00:09:06,208 --> 00:09:08,208 There was no direct link 169 00:09:08,292 --> 00:09:11,917 between Melanie and the murder of Bill McGuire. 170 00:09:16,042 --> 00:09:18,000 New Jersey nurse Melanie McGuire was accused 171 00:09:18,042 --> 00:09:22,250 of murdering her husband Bill in order to be with her lover, 172 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:24,333 Dr. Bradley Miller. 173 00:09:24,417 --> 00:09:26,167 Distracted by a media circus, 174 00:09:26,250 --> 00:09:30,125 prosecutor Patty Prezioso faced an uphill battle 175 00:09:30,208 --> 00:09:31,625 for a guilty verdict. 176 00:09:33,417 --> 00:09:36,833 - The prosecution's version of what happened that night was 177 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:39,500 after they finalized on the house, 178 00:09:39,583 --> 00:09:42,333 Bill opened a bottle of red wine to celebrate 179 00:09:42,458 --> 00:09:47,083 and Melanie slipped him a drug called chloral hydrate 180 00:09:47,167 --> 00:09:51,208 in his drink and he became unconscious. 181 00:09:51,292 --> 00:09:52,583 And then some point, 182 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:56,167 she shot him and then dismembered his body, 183 00:09:56,208 --> 00:10:00,208 putting them into suitcases and then driving 300 miles 184 00:10:00,292 --> 00:10:03,708 to Virginia Beach and dumped them into the Chesapeake Bay. 185 00:10:07,083 --> 00:10:11,417 - The list of circumstantial pieces of evidence 186 00:10:11,542 --> 00:10:14,250 that we had was very, very long. 187 00:10:15,625 --> 00:10:19,000 In the days just before Bill disappeared, 188 00:10:19,083 --> 00:10:24,000 there were searches that she did on her home computer, 189 00:10:24,083 --> 00:10:28,375 things like sedatives, undetectable poisons, 190 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:30,667 how to buy a gun in Pennsylvania, 191 00:10:30,833 --> 00:10:32,583 how to commit a murder. 192 00:10:33,875 --> 00:10:37,167 Then, with a fake Pennsylvania license, 193 00:10:37,167 --> 00:10:41,375 Melanie went into a very small gun shop in Pennsylvania 194 00:10:41,458 --> 00:10:47,292 and she purchased a 38 caliber gun and wadcutter bullets. 195 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,750 The deceased had been shot through the head 196 00:10:50,833 --> 00:10:52,583 and there was ballistic evidence 197 00:10:52,708 --> 00:10:57,625 that were 38 caliber wadcutter projectiles. 198 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:03,667 Bill's car was recovered in Atlantic City 199 00:11:03,708 --> 00:11:06,625 where it had been parked at a small hotel. 200 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:11,667 Through wiretaps, we knew that it was Melanie 201 00:11:11,708 --> 00:11:14,625 that parked Bill McGuire's car down there. 202 00:11:16,167 --> 00:11:20,500 In the glove compartment was a vial of chloral hydrate 203 00:11:20,583 --> 00:11:21,750 and a syringe. 204 00:11:22,542 --> 00:11:24,042 Lo and behold, 205 00:11:24,042 --> 00:11:27,625 there was a prescription for chloral hydrate written 206 00:11:27,708 --> 00:11:29,042 on the prescription pad 207 00:11:29,125 --> 00:11:32,250 of the medical practice that she worked for, 208 00:11:32,333 --> 00:11:36,042 where a handwriting expert testified it was not the doctor. 209 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,375 Also, what was in Bill McGuire's car parked by the defendant 210 00:11:42,458 --> 00:11:45,417 were very small pieces of flesh. 211 00:11:46,542 --> 00:11:49,167 The forensic pathologist testified, 212 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:52,167 and he described it that the tissue is not 213 00:11:52,292 --> 00:11:56,167 what would normally be shed from a live human being. 214 00:11:56,917 --> 00:11:58,583 We tested the tissue 215 00:11:58,667 --> 00:12:00,958 and that tissue belonged to Bill McGuire. 216 00:12:01,875 --> 00:12:03,333 The searches included... 217 00:12:03,458 --> 00:12:06,375 I remember saying to the jury at the end of my summation, 218 00:12:06,458 --> 00:12:08,042 referring to the evidence, 219 00:12:08,125 --> 00:12:13,000 "You have everything you need now to decide this case. 220 00:12:13,083 --> 00:12:17,792 Please don't let looks or media take you away 221 00:12:17,792 --> 00:12:20,708 from the important job that you need to do." 222 00:12:23,083 --> 00:12:26,500 I think that this defendant seriously thought 223 00:12:26,583 --> 00:12:29,583 that she was smarter than everybody, 224 00:12:29,667 --> 00:12:34,708 and I think she thought that she could manipulate her way 225 00:12:34,792 --> 00:12:37,083 through not being convicted. 226 00:12:38,458 --> 00:12:41,292 - Just before the word went down that there was a verdict, 227 00:12:41,375 --> 00:12:42,875 she was very, very upbeat. 228 00:12:42,958 --> 00:12:46,833 She had a couple of her friends with her and she was smiling 229 00:12:46,917 --> 00:12:50,042 and she was convinced she was gonna get off. 230 00:12:50,917 --> 00:12:53,500 And then when the guilty verdict came down, 231 00:12:53,583 --> 00:12:57,625 she literally just crumpled into Joe Tacopina's arms. 232 00:12:57,708 --> 00:12:59,500 It was a shock for everybody, I think. 233 00:13:02,042 --> 00:13:04,250 - When the verdict was read, 234 00:13:04,333 --> 00:13:09,333 I recall feeling tremendous relief that justice was served, 235 00:13:09,708 --> 00:13:13,583 but there were no winners with this trial. 236 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:17,292 There were two children who, for all intents and purposes, 237 00:13:17,375 --> 00:13:21,125 lost both parents and it's a tragedy. 238 00:13:21,208 --> 00:13:24,625 So there is a lot of pain that still exists about this, 239 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:25,833 and I think it's important 240 00:13:25,917 --> 00:13:27,917 that everyone be sensitive to that. 241 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:32,667 - To this day, Melanie McGuire denies she had anything to do 242 00:13:32,750 --> 00:13:34,542 with the killing of her husband, 243 00:13:34,667 --> 00:13:37,167 but has exhausted all of her appeals. 244 00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:41,792 She is eligible for parole on May 20, 2073, 245 00:13:41,875 --> 00:13:45,833 when she will be 101 years old. 246 00:13:45,875 --> 00:13:47,250 (lock clicking) 247 00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:48,875 Like Melanie McGuire, 248 00:13:48,958 --> 00:13:52,708 a Kansas woman named Toby Young strayed from her husband 249 00:13:52,792 --> 00:13:53,917 with someone at work. 250 00:13:54,042 --> 00:13:56,208 In her case, a prison inmate. 251 00:13:56,708 --> 00:13:58,083 The lengths 252 00:13:58,167 --> 00:14:01,292 this seemingly mild-mannered prison volunteer took 253 00:14:01,375 --> 00:14:04,667 to run away with her lover shocked both her family 254 00:14:04,708 --> 00:14:07,792 and the public who watched the drama unfold 255 00:14:07,875 --> 00:14:09,333 in the national news. 256 00:14:12,542 --> 00:14:15,875 Dawn Bormann Novascone first encountered Toby 257 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,125 and her prison dog fostering program 258 00:14:18,208 --> 00:14:21,125 while reporting for the Kansas City Star. 259 00:14:21,208 --> 00:14:22,833 - Well, that's just a fantastic story 260 00:14:22,917 --> 00:14:25,833 that you never get when you cover prisons. 261 00:14:27,042 --> 00:14:31,708 Toby seems like the absolutely perfect person 262 00:14:31,792 --> 00:14:33,542 to be running a prison program. 263 00:14:33,625 --> 00:14:37,000 She was a model citizen. 264 00:14:37,042 --> 00:14:41,167 She was someone who probably made cookies 265 00:14:41,250 --> 00:14:44,958 for half of the neighborhood after school every day. 266 00:14:47,083 --> 00:14:50,042 John Manard was a young man 267 00:14:50,167 --> 00:14:55,125 who at 17 years old was part of a carjacking. 268 00:14:56,375 --> 00:14:58,083 And during the commission of that carjacking, 269 00:14:58,167 --> 00:15:00,833 a man named Donald England was pulled out of his convertible 270 00:15:00,917 --> 00:15:03,500 and was shot and later died. 271 00:15:07,375 --> 00:15:10,250 This wasn't John Manard's first time being involved 272 00:15:10,333 --> 00:15:11,167 with the law. 273 00:15:11,208 --> 00:15:12,500 He had had a troubled youth 274 00:15:12,542 --> 00:15:17,208 and this, however, was the end of that youth. 275 00:15:17,292 --> 00:15:20,125 He was to spend the rest of his life in prison. 276 00:15:21,292 --> 00:15:23,292 John Manard first got involved 277 00:15:23,375 --> 00:15:25,583 in the Safe Harbor Prison Program 278 00:15:25,667 --> 00:15:27,500 after it had started a while, 279 00:15:27,542 --> 00:15:30,417 and he came up to Toby Young and tried to convince her 280 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,417 that he needed to be part of this. 281 00:15:33,458 --> 00:15:35,125 At some point, 282 00:15:35,208 --> 00:15:39,375 there was an inmate who got in Toby Young's face 283 00:15:39,458 --> 00:15:40,667 and threatened her. 284 00:15:40,792 --> 00:15:42,792 John Manard decided he would be there 285 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:45,500 every time that she was at the prison 286 00:15:45,625 --> 00:15:48,458 and he would be her protector. 287 00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:53,708 Looking back, this was an unusual relationship, 288 00:15:53,792 --> 00:15:55,167 no question. 289 00:15:56,542 --> 00:15:59,083 It should be a corrections officer there protecting her. 290 00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:00,333 It shouldn't be an inmate. 291 00:16:04,083 --> 00:16:05,042 What appeared to be an innocent friendship 292 00:16:05,042 --> 00:16:06,750 between dog trainer Toby Young 293 00:16:06,875 --> 00:16:09,208 and inmate John Manard turned out 294 00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:11,458 to be much more scandalous. 295 00:16:13,042 --> 00:16:17,458 - I think it was easy for Toby to imagine John Manard 296 00:16:19,875 --> 00:16:21,250 as someone who loved her. 297 00:16:21,375 --> 00:16:22,875 Part of that was because at home, 298 00:16:22,958 --> 00:16:26,000 she wasn't satisfied with her marriage. 299 00:16:26,125 --> 00:16:28,833 She didn't feel loved, she didn't feel needed. 300 00:16:28,917 --> 00:16:32,333 She needed someone to need her. 301 00:16:34,042 --> 00:16:36,833 John Manard asked Toby Young, "If I wasn't in prison, 302 00:16:36,958 --> 00:16:39,500 would you be with me on the outside?" 303 00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:44,167 And she contemplated it and said, "Yes." 304 00:16:44,208 --> 00:16:48,167 Manard could think of nothing but escaping. 305 00:16:48,208 --> 00:16:51,542 And he framed it as "I wanna escape to be with you," 306 00:16:51,625 --> 00:16:55,250 and it's about them, not his freedom necessarily. 307 00:16:57,083 --> 00:16:59,333 In a way, actually, it's about both of their freedoms. 308 00:16:59,417 --> 00:17:01,042 She could be free from a marriage 309 00:17:01,042 --> 00:17:03,500 and a life she wanted to escape 310 00:17:03,583 --> 00:17:05,208 and he would be free of prison bars 311 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:08,083 that he most certainly wanted to escape from. 312 00:17:10,792 --> 00:17:13,208 Toby Young was such a good citizen 313 00:17:13,292 --> 00:17:15,333 that everyone trusted her. 314 00:17:15,375 --> 00:17:18,833 They didn't really question her motivation at the time 315 00:17:18,958 --> 00:17:20,333 with John Manard. 316 00:17:20,417 --> 00:17:21,500 (phone dialing) 317 00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:23,917 Toby Young brought a cell phone to him, 318 00:17:24,042 --> 00:17:27,042 which of course is illegal in any prison. 319 00:17:27,125 --> 00:17:31,458 She took out about $40,000 from her 401K plan. 320 00:17:31,542 --> 00:17:32,917 Then she bought a truck 321 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,917 and she hid it away in a storage unit 322 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,833 that she knew did not have security cameras. 323 00:17:39,917 --> 00:17:41,833 Meanwhile, inside prison, 324 00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:44,042 John Manard lost 20 pounds 325 00:17:44,125 --> 00:17:46,833 so he could get into this tiny cardboard box, 326 00:17:46,917 --> 00:17:50,417 and eventually he thought he would sneak out that way. 327 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:54,000 This seemed like a ridiculous plan until, lo and behold, 328 00:17:54,083 --> 00:17:56,667 a corrections officer asked Toby, 329 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:59,042 "Could you please get rid of all this material 330 00:17:59,125 --> 00:18:00,750 that you're not using anymore?" 331 00:18:00,833 --> 00:18:03,417 Which was leashes and dog bowls, 332 00:18:03,417 --> 00:18:05,667 but it was also a wire crate 333 00:18:05,708 --> 00:18:10,458 that was large enough for a box, so the plan became real. 334 00:18:12,958 --> 00:18:16,542 So that day, John Manard was waiting 335 00:18:16,667 --> 00:18:20,042 and knew that Toby Young would come through the gates. 336 00:18:20,875 --> 00:18:23,292 Toby came in with her van, 337 00:18:23,375 --> 00:18:25,292 made small talk with a corrections officer, 338 00:18:25,375 --> 00:18:30,167 and waited while the inmates loaded John Manard, 339 00:18:30,292 --> 00:18:34,250 who is hiding in the cardboard box, into her van. 340 00:18:34,375 --> 00:18:37,125 Corrections officer didn't run a heartbeat check, 341 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,542 didn't thoroughly search her car, 342 00:18:39,625 --> 00:18:42,625 let her leave that day with John Manard in the vehicle. 343 00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,958 I think Toby was so in love 344 00:18:48,042 --> 00:18:51,833 and so captivated by the idea of a plan 345 00:18:51,917 --> 00:18:56,458 that maybe she didn't think through the consequences. 346 00:19:00,042 --> 00:19:04,083 I think her brain was so deliriously in love 347 00:19:04,208 --> 00:19:05,500 that it was impossible for her 348 00:19:05,583 --> 00:19:08,208 to truly see how this would destroy her life. 349 00:19:09,542 --> 00:19:13,167 The entire Kansas City area was thinking, 350 00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:18,625 how on earth can these two people escape authorities? 351 00:19:18,708 --> 00:19:23,250 It had to be one of the longer escapes in modern history. 352 00:19:23,333 --> 00:19:26,250 It elevated the situation quite a bit 353 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:29,875 with authorities knowing they both had the capability 354 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,250 to be armed and clearly were dangerous. 355 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:35,417 The authorities were on TV saying, 356 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:37,583 "We've heard she purchased a vehicle. 357 00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:40,667 If you sold her the vehicle, call us." 358 00:19:40,750 --> 00:19:43,833 That tip eventually led them to a dealership 359 00:19:43,917 --> 00:19:46,125 that had indeed sold her a truck. 360 00:19:46,208 --> 00:19:49,333 And the truck title wasn't available yet, 361 00:19:49,375 --> 00:19:53,000 so she asked them to go ahead and mail that title 362 00:19:53,083 --> 00:19:55,250 to a little cabin in Tennessee. 363 00:19:56,458 --> 00:19:58,167 The US Marshals were gathering, 364 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:01,125 getting ready to close in on the cabin 365 00:20:01,208 --> 00:20:02,708 where they were staying. 366 00:20:02,792 --> 00:20:04,667 John Manard and Toby Young have no idea 367 00:20:04,792 --> 00:20:07,417 that the US Marshals have spotted their vehicle 368 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:11,125 and are very carefully following them. 369 00:20:11,208 --> 00:20:13,417 The highway patrol puts on their lights 370 00:20:13,542 --> 00:20:15,375 and John Manard has a decision to make. 371 00:20:15,458 --> 00:20:19,917 Do we pull over and turn ourselves in or do we gun it? 372 00:20:21,375 --> 00:20:24,833 And he guns it up to 100 miles per hour in the truck. 373 00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:29,625 Eventually, John Manard lost control of his truck, 374 00:20:29,708 --> 00:20:33,500 hit a tree pulling about 100 miles per hour, 375 00:20:33,542 --> 00:20:36,750 and somehow managed to survive it. 376 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:40,167 Toby was eventually extradited back to Kansas. 377 00:20:40,208 --> 00:20:41,750 - Toby, why'd you do it? 378 00:20:42,750 --> 00:20:43,833 - I can't say anything. 379 00:20:43,917 --> 00:20:45,042 I can't say anything right now. 380 00:20:45,125 --> 00:20:48,375 - She received 27 months in prison 381 00:20:48,458 --> 00:20:52,375 and she suffered a lot of consequences as a result, 382 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:55,750 obviously strain with her family. 383 00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:59,958 John received another 10 years on top of his life sentence 384 00:21:00,042 --> 00:21:02,750 and went right back to prison. 385 00:21:04,708 --> 00:21:07,708 Toby Young is hardly the first woman 386 00:21:07,792 --> 00:21:10,750 to fall in love with an inmate or to fall in love 387 00:21:10,833 --> 00:21:13,667 with somebody that they shouldn't be with, 388 00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:16,458 and she certainly won't be the last. 389 00:21:16,542 --> 00:21:19,625 - After her release from prison in 2008, 390 00:21:19,708 --> 00:21:23,750 Toby remarried and became a public motivational speaker 391 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:24,833 and author. 392 00:21:24,958 --> 00:21:27,250 John Manard remains in prison. 393 00:21:31,083 --> 00:21:32,917 Technology has dramatically changed the way we date. 394 00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:36,167 Apps and social media make it easier to find romance, 395 00:21:36,250 --> 00:21:38,333 but they can also come with a cost. 396 00:21:38,458 --> 00:21:42,417 Catfishing, cyberstalking, and sextortion are just a few 397 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:45,083 of the hazards of the digital age. 398 00:21:45,167 --> 00:21:49,250 In 2012, Liz Golyar hooked up with a man named Dave Kroupa 399 00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:50,500 on a dating app, 400 00:21:50,583 --> 00:21:52,042 but when the relationship fizzled 401 00:21:52,042 --> 00:21:56,042 and Dave connected with another woman named Cari Farver, 402 00:21:56,125 --> 00:21:58,583 digital technology allowed Liz 403 00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:01,500 to go to desperate and shocking lengths 404 00:22:01,583 --> 00:22:03,667 to keep Dave in her life. 405 00:22:04,750 --> 00:22:07,292 True crime author Leslie Rule takes us 406 00:22:07,375 --> 00:22:09,417 through this unbelievable story 407 00:22:09,542 --> 00:22:12,833 of sex, stalking, and murder, 408 00:22:12,917 --> 00:22:16,833 which she wrote about in her 2020 book, "A Tangled Web." 409 00:22:18,708 --> 00:22:22,167 - Dave Kroupa was a mechanic in his late 30s 410 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:25,042 and he just recently separated 411 00:22:25,125 --> 00:22:26,417 from the mother of his children. 412 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:30,083 The first woman he met was Liz Golyar. 413 00:22:30,083 --> 00:22:34,042 He met Liz for coffee and he found her very attractive, 414 00:22:34,125 --> 00:22:35,250 but he made it clear from the start 415 00:22:35,417 --> 00:22:38,583 he was not interested in any kind of commitment. 416 00:22:38,708 --> 00:22:40,750 He thought that Liz understood, 417 00:22:40,833 --> 00:22:43,333 but she latched onto him very quickly. 418 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:47,333 Dave met Cari Farver when she brought her Ford Explorer 419 00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:49,625 into his shop for a minor repair. 420 00:22:49,708 --> 00:22:51,625 They were instantly attracted to each other. 421 00:22:51,708 --> 00:22:54,083 They started seeing each other soon after 422 00:22:54,167 --> 00:22:57,500 and saw each other almost every day for a couple of weeks. 423 00:22:57,583 --> 00:23:01,208 Liz became very alarmed when she realized 424 00:23:01,292 --> 00:23:03,500 that Dave thought Cari was special. 425 00:23:03,583 --> 00:23:06,083 He was spending a lot more time with Cari 426 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:10,000 than he had with any other woman since Liz had met him. 427 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,083 In mid-November of 2012, 428 00:23:14,167 --> 00:23:15,833 Dave got up to leave for work 429 00:23:15,875 --> 00:23:19,500 and Cari was sitting on the sofa with her laptop out 430 00:23:19,583 --> 00:23:22,375 and he said goodbye. 431 00:23:23,375 --> 00:23:24,667 Halfway through the morning, 432 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:28,042 he saw that she had sent him a text and it said, 433 00:23:28,125 --> 00:23:29,625 "Let's move in together." 434 00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:33,542 He responded, "No, I don't wanna do that," 435 00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:36,083 and got a text right back. 436 00:23:36,208 --> 00:23:37,375 At the end of the day, 437 00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:39,417 he went home and there was no sign of her. 438 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,042 It was as if she'd never been in his life at all. 439 00:23:45,083 --> 00:23:49,500 Cari seemed to suddenly quit her job and break up with Dave. 440 00:23:49,542 --> 00:23:52,458 Both of those things were done by text. 441 00:23:52,542 --> 00:23:55,000 Meanwhile, Cari's mother, Nancy Raney, 442 00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:58,292 had not heard from Cari in a few days, 443 00:23:58,375 --> 00:24:00,542 so she tried to get ahold of her. 444 00:24:00,625 --> 00:24:02,333 Cari would not answer the phone, 445 00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:05,500 and they ended up having a text exchange. 446 00:24:05,583 --> 00:24:10,250 Not only were the texts rude and short, 447 00:24:10,375 --> 00:24:12,333 they were filled with misspelled words, 448 00:24:12,417 --> 00:24:14,667 and Cari had always been meticulous 449 00:24:14,708 --> 00:24:15,958 when it came to texting. 450 00:24:17,708 --> 00:24:20,125 Nancy was immediately alarmed. 451 00:24:20,208 --> 00:24:23,667 She was used to talking to her daughter every day. 452 00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:26,958 But because she was still sending texts, 453 00:24:27,042 --> 00:24:31,750 the police were not alarmed when Nancy reported her missing. 454 00:24:31,833 --> 00:24:34,917 They told Nancy, "Hey, people do this all the time. 455 00:24:35,042 --> 00:24:35,833 They take off. 456 00:24:35,917 --> 00:24:37,833 It's nothing to worry about." 457 00:24:40,542 --> 00:24:44,042 Meanwhile, in Omaha, Dave was alarmed 458 00:24:44,125 --> 00:24:47,208 because Cari didn't seem to be letting go of him. 459 00:24:47,333 --> 00:24:50,667 He continued to get texts and emails 460 00:24:50,792 --> 00:24:54,458 and they became threatening and belligerent and obscene. 461 00:24:55,625 --> 00:24:57,000 Not only that, 462 00:24:57,125 --> 00:25:00,542 Liz said that she was getting texts like that also, 463 00:25:01,125 --> 00:25:02,667 and she was terrified. 464 00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:05,000 She told Dave she was angered 465 00:25:05,042 --> 00:25:08,958 that he had unleashed this woman on her. 466 00:25:09,042 --> 00:25:12,958 Liz basically said, "If you'd only been satisfied with me, 467 00:25:13,042 --> 00:25:15,125 we'd never have been in this situation." 468 00:25:17,708 --> 00:25:21,375 This case was very difficult to solve, 469 00:25:21,458 --> 00:25:23,833 partly because several different 470 00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:26,833 law enforcement jurisdictions were involved. 471 00:25:26,917 --> 00:25:30,250 Cari lived in Iowa, so she'd been reported missing there. 472 00:25:30,375 --> 00:25:32,000 Meanwhile, in Omaha, 473 00:25:32,042 --> 00:25:34,000 the Omaha police thought they were dealing 474 00:25:34,042 --> 00:25:35,500 with a crazed stalker. 475 00:25:35,583 --> 00:25:37,875 They thought that Cari was a stalker. 476 00:25:37,958 --> 00:25:40,375 In Iowa, in Pottawattamie County, 477 00:25:40,458 --> 00:25:44,125 Detectives James Doty and Ryan Avis asked 478 00:25:44,208 --> 00:25:48,208 if they could have the Cari Farver missing person case. 479 00:25:48,333 --> 00:25:50,583 They had heard water cooler talk 480 00:25:50,667 --> 00:25:54,125 and they thought something did not sound right. 481 00:25:55,708 --> 00:25:58,000 As the detectives begin to investigate, 482 00:25:58,042 --> 00:26:01,583 they realized that one name continued to surface. 483 00:26:01,667 --> 00:26:03,542 Liz Golyar. 484 00:26:03,667 --> 00:26:07,708 When Liz and Dave reported that Cari was stalking them, 485 00:26:07,792 --> 00:26:09,958 they'd allowed police to download their phones 486 00:26:10,042 --> 00:26:13,542 and they discovered Liz had actually used an app 487 00:26:13,667 --> 00:26:16,583 to send a threat to Dave 488 00:26:16,667 --> 00:26:19,792 and made it appear as if it came from Cari. 489 00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:26,667 Though Liz Golyar had allowed a download of her cell phone, 490 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:30,500 she had no idea that it was possible 491 00:26:30,542 --> 00:26:34,083 for detectives to retrieve deleted images. 492 00:26:34,208 --> 00:26:38,333 Deputy Anthony Kava discovered many deleted things 493 00:26:38,375 --> 00:26:39,667 on Liz's phone 494 00:26:39,792 --> 00:26:43,208 that tied directly to Cari's disappearance. 495 00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:47,083 There were thousands of emails and texts 496 00:26:47,167 --> 00:26:49,833 that could be traced back to Liz. 497 00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:52,917 It was clear to them that Liz was behind the threats, 498 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,625 but it didn't prove murder, 499 00:26:54,708 --> 00:26:57,667 it proved only that she was stalking Dave. 500 00:26:59,917 --> 00:27:02,292 They decided to investigate the case 501 00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:04,667 from two different perspectives. 502 00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:09,167 Avis began investigating it as if Cari were alive, 503 00:27:09,208 --> 00:27:12,833 while Doty investigated it as if she was dead. 504 00:27:14,875 --> 00:27:18,833 The detectives realized that Cari's absence was very odd. 505 00:27:18,958 --> 00:27:21,833 Even if she had flipped out and gone off on her own, 506 00:27:21,917 --> 00:27:24,500 she would've had to support herself somehow. 507 00:27:24,542 --> 00:27:26,500 She'd have to be living somewhere, 508 00:27:26,542 --> 00:27:28,917 but there was no trace of her at all. 509 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,500 There were no bank accounts, no apartments rented. 510 00:27:31,583 --> 00:27:32,875 It made no sense. 511 00:27:34,167 --> 00:27:38,667 The only proof that Cari was still alive were the reports 512 00:27:38,792 --> 00:27:41,208 that she had been stalking people, 513 00:27:41,292 --> 00:27:45,167 but all of those came through texts and emails. 514 00:27:45,208 --> 00:27:47,750 No one had actually seen her in person. 515 00:27:51,875 --> 00:27:53,750 In 2015, Iowa detectives investigated the mystery 516 00:27:53,833 --> 00:27:56,500 of 37 year old Cari Farver, 517 00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:58,917 who was missing for nearly three years, 518 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,583 but her ex-boyfriend, Dave Kroupa, 519 00:28:01,667 --> 00:28:04,667 continued to receive threatening emails 520 00:28:04,792 --> 00:28:07,167 and text messages from her number. 521 00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:10,375 While detectives suspected that one of Dave's other exes, 522 00:28:10,458 --> 00:28:15,000 Liz Golyar, had murdered Cari and was impersonating her, 523 00:28:15,042 --> 00:28:18,292 they had no actual evidence that Cari was dead, 524 00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:21,667 and it seemed that Cari wasn't the only person 525 00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:24,208 Liz Golyar was pretending to be. 526 00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:28,417 - Liz actually impersonated Amy Flora, 527 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,333 the mother of Dave's two children. 528 00:28:30,417 --> 00:28:34,833 Liz went to shocking extremes to convince Dave Kroupa 529 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,500 that she was being stalked by Amy Flora 530 00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:39,000 and that she was a victim. 531 00:28:39,083 --> 00:28:42,500 She set fire to her own house with four pets inside, 532 00:28:42,542 --> 00:28:44,125 and the pets died. 533 00:28:44,208 --> 00:28:46,958 And she also shot herself in the thigh 534 00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:49,958 and claimed that Amy Flora had shot her. 535 00:28:51,292 --> 00:28:54,458 She was sending emails in Amy's name, 536 00:28:55,875 --> 00:28:59,083 hoping to make Amy look like she was the killer. 537 00:29:00,292 --> 00:29:01,583 The detectives knew 538 00:29:01,667 --> 00:29:05,042 that the emails were not coming from Amy. 539 00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:08,708 It was clear to them they were coming directly from Liz. 540 00:29:08,833 --> 00:29:11,542 While Liz was impersonating Amy, 541 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:15,208 Liz revealed details that only the killer would know. 542 00:29:16,583 --> 00:29:19,500 She said that Cari had been stabbed in her Ford Explorer. 543 00:29:21,042 --> 00:29:24,250 When the detectives located the Ford Explorer, 544 00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:28,167 they peeled back the covers on the seats 545 00:29:28,250 --> 00:29:32,292 and discovered that the passenger seat was saturated 546 00:29:32,375 --> 00:29:33,250 with blood. 547 00:29:34,542 --> 00:29:36,208 They compared the DNA 548 00:29:36,292 --> 00:29:40,958 and discovered that the blood belonged to Cari Farver. 549 00:29:41,042 --> 00:29:45,083 They knew now that Cari really had died in that car, 550 00:29:45,167 --> 00:29:48,000 and Liz was the only one who knew that. 551 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:55,417 On December 22nd, 2016, the detectives arrested Liz Golyar 552 00:29:56,833 --> 00:29:59,125 for the first degree murder of Cari Farver. 553 00:29:59,208 --> 00:30:02,083 Though the detectives had enough to arrest Liz, 554 00:30:02,167 --> 00:30:04,167 they weren't sure if they could get a conviction. 555 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:06,500 Her body had never been found 556 00:30:06,583 --> 00:30:09,417 and they didn't have any real proof that Cari was dead. 557 00:30:11,292 --> 00:30:13,333 As the trial approached, 558 00:30:13,417 --> 00:30:16,917 they suddenly found some very telling evidence. 559 00:30:19,167 --> 00:30:22,792 Shortly before the trial, Dave Kroupa showed up 560 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,958 with the tablet device he had overlooked 561 00:30:25,042 --> 00:30:27,792 and handed it over for Detective Anthony Kava. 562 00:30:27,875 --> 00:30:29,917 Anthony Kava wasn't expecting that much, 563 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,375 but he took out the SD card that was in the tablet 564 00:30:33,458 --> 00:30:35,042 and began to examine it. 565 00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:36,500 He was stunned to see 566 00:30:36,625 --> 00:30:41,458 that that card had once been in Liz Golyar's cell phone. 567 00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:45,750 Among the new images that Kava found, 568 00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:49,083 it was a picture of a tattoo, a closeup, 569 00:30:49,167 --> 00:30:51,500 and it appeared to be on a foot. 570 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:54,833 The foot was in a state of decay. 571 00:30:54,875 --> 00:30:58,417 It proved that Liz had photographed Cari 572 00:30:58,542 --> 00:30:59,708 after she died. 573 00:30:59,792 --> 00:31:02,375 When detectives checked with Cari's family, 574 00:31:02,458 --> 00:31:05,917 they confirmed that Cari did have a tattoo on her foot 575 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,333 and they sent them a photo. 576 00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:12,167 The photo of the tattoo on Cari's foot was 577 00:31:12,292 --> 00:31:16,042 the single most powerful piece of evidence 578 00:31:16,125 --> 00:31:17,833 that detectives had. 579 00:31:19,833 --> 00:31:22,542 The trial began on May 10th, 2017 580 00:31:22,625 --> 00:31:25,458 and lasted approximately two weeks. 581 00:31:25,458 --> 00:31:26,750 Liz was found guilty 582 00:31:26,833 --> 00:31:29,208 and sentenced to life in prison without parole. 583 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,167 - In 2020, investigators established a scholarship 584 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:37,083 in Cari Farver's name at her alma mater, 585 00:31:37,167 --> 00:31:39,375 Iowa Western Community College. 586 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,000 The $1,000 scholarship goes to students 587 00:31:42,083 --> 00:31:46,000 of Cari's chosen career of information technology. 588 00:31:46,917 --> 00:31:48,958 Like Cari's mother, Nancy Raney, 589 00:31:49,042 --> 00:31:52,458 Lore Heavilin would also experience the painful outcome 590 00:31:52,542 --> 00:31:56,292 of a daughter caught in a toxic love triangle. 591 00:31:56,375 --> 00:31:59,167 In 2012, her 19 year old daughter, Erin, 592 00:31:59,292 --> 00:32:01,542 married her high school sweetheart, 593 00:32:01,625 --> 00:32:03,500 a Marine named John Corwin, 594 00:32:03,542 --> 00:32:07,500 and moved with him to a base in 29 Palms, California. 595 00:32:07,542 --> 00:32:11,000 John and Erin appeared to have a happy life, 596 00:32:11,042 --> 00:32:12,750 but Lore would find out 597 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:15,417 that things weren't quite as they seemed. 598 00:32:17,042 --> 00:32:20,333 - From the time that Erin and John started dating, 599 00:32:20,417 --> 00:32:23,167 he knew he was going to join the Marines. 600 00:32:24,542 --> 00:32:28,375 Erin was 18 and John was 19 when they got engaged. 601 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:31,750 My biggest concern was they were very young. 602 00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:34,292 They got married in Vegas. 603 00:32:36,875 --> 00:32:40,875 My impression of life as a military wife was 604 00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:42,958 it could be very lonely, 605 00:32:43,083 --> 00:32:45,000 especially for someone like Erin, 606 00:32:45,125 --> 00:32:49,625 who is very much a homebody, who is very shy. 607 00:32:49,708 --> 00:32:52,542 She doesn't make friends easily. 608 00:32:52,625 --> 00:32:56,083 We talked about the changes and what she could expect, 609 00:32:56,083 --> 00:32:57,333 and she kept saying, 610 00:32:57,375 --> 00:33:00,292 "I know, Mom, I know, Mom, I know, Mom." 611 00:33:00,375 --> 00:33:01,208 She didn't know. 612 00:33:04,917 --> 00:33:07,000 Erin and John moved into 613 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,625 a little apartment complex on base. 614 00:33:10,208 --> 00:33:13,500 Chris and Nichole Lee lived in the apartment 615 00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:15,375 next to Erin and John's, 616 00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:17,542 and I feel like having that little network 617 00:33:17,625 --> 00:33:19,792 of people was good for Erin. 618 00:33:19,875 --> 00:33:21,500 She enjoyed their time together, 619 00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:23,542 she would talk about their cookouts, 620 00:33:23,625 --> 00:33:24,833 and I think she was okay 621 00:33:24,917 --> 00:33:27,958 with just that small group of friends. 622 00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:35,125 Erin had let me know that she was pregnant. 623 00:33:35,875 --> 00:33:37,333 She was really excited. 624 00:33:37,417 --> 00:33:40,750 She was posting it all over Facebook and she loved kids. 625 00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:48,250 She was about 10 weeks when she lost the baby. 626 00:33:49,333 --> 00:33:50,875 I think because they were so young, 627 00:33:50,958 --> 00:33:55,208 they just didn't know how to deal with it. 628 00:33:55,292 --> 00:33:57,333 And John being so stoic, 629 00:33:57,417 --> 00:33:59,375 I don't think he just knew how to do 630 00:33:59,458 --> 00:34:02,542 what he needed to do for her. 631 00:34:05,792 --> 00:34:08,167 My last conversation with Erin was 632 00:34:08,208 --> 00:34:12,125 on Friday, June 27th, 2014. 633 00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:17,042 On Saturday, I sent her a text. 634 00:34:17,167 --> 00:34:20,167 Well, she never answered that text, 635 00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:22,667 which was so unlike her. 636 00:34:25,042 --> 00:34:28,208 On Sunday, June 29th, about 11 o'clock, 637 00:34:28,292 --> 00:34:33,167 John called and he said, "Have you heard from Erin?" 638 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:35,833 And I'm like, "Well, no, why?" 639 00:34:35,833 --> 00:34:37,417 And he goes, "She's missing." 640 00:34:42,542 --> 00:34:43,708 After they settled in their new home 641 00:34:43,708 --> 00:34:45,250 on a California military base, 642 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,375 Erin and John Corwin were thrilled to discover 643 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,500 they were expecting their first child. 644 00:34:51,625 --> 00:34:53,292 That joy was short-lived 645 00:34:53,375 --> 00:34:57,333 when Erin miscarried 10 weeks into the pregnancy. 646 00:34:57,375 --> 00:34:59,292 From her home in Tennessee, 647 00:34:59,292 --> 00:35:02,333 Erin's mother, Lore, did her best to comfort her daughter 648 00:35:02,417 --> 00:35:05,667 in daily phone chats, but she was left in the dark 649 00:35:05,708 --> 00:35:08,667 about how much the marriage was crumbling 650 00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:12,750 in the months leading up to Erin's sudden disappearance. 651 00:35:14,125 --> 00:35:15,333 - A desperate search is underway 652 00:35:15,375 --> 00:35:17,458 to find the pregnant wife of a US Marine 653 00:35:17,542 --> 00:35:19,667 who's been missing now for eight days 654 00:35:19,708 --> 00:35:20,750 in the California desert. 655 00:35:22,292 --> 00:35:25,167 - John had told us that she was pregnant again, 656 00:35:25,208 --> 00:35:27,458 and if she was truly lost in the desert, 657 00:35:27,542 --> 00:35:30,375 I felt like it was gonna be harder on her 658 00:35:30,458 --> 00:35:32,750 'cause she was probably gonna be dehydrated 659 00:35:32,875 --> 00:35:34,292 and in not the best shape. 660 00:35:36,875 --> 00:35:40,833 When I found out that they had found Erin's car without her, 661 00:35:40,875 --> 00:35:44,292 I felt like something really bad had happened. 662 00:35:46,208 --> 00:35:49,375 John told me about the affair with Chris Lee. 663 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,417 I still struggle to wrap my brain 664 00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,000 around Erin having an affair. 665 00:35:55,042 --> 00:35:57,375 It was so out of character for her. 666 00:35:58,792 --> 00:36:02,958 What I feel like happened is she had the miscarriage, 667 00:36:03,042 --> 00:36:06,500 John didn't know how to be there for her, 668 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:11,583 and Chris, I think it just started like as a listening ear, 669 00:36:11,667 --> 00:36:16,542 and then it just kind of happened after that. 670 00:36:20,208 --> 00:36:23,333 I started suspecting Chris 671 00:36:23,375 --> 00:36:27,750 when I talked to John and Erin's other neighbors. 672 00:36:29,208 --> 00:36:33,667 There was just so many discrepancies, and then Chris, 673 00:36:33,708 --> 00:36:38,375 there was just like the empty look when I saw him. 674 00:36:38,458 --> 00:36:42,833 So just that gut instinct that Chris had done something. 675 00:36:46,292 --> 00:36:49,792 While Erin was missing and we were waiting to find her, 676 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:55,708 I felt numb because there was nothing we could do. 677 00:36:58,375 --> 00:37:00,375 About a week before she was found, 678 00:37:01,875 --> 00:37:05,667 she came to me in my dream and she said, 679 00:37:05,708 --> 00:37:07,708 "Mom, it wasn't supposed to be this way. 680 00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:10,458 I had so many plans for my life." 681 00:37:10,542 --> 00:37:12,583 And she turned around and walked away. 682 00:37:14,125 --> 00:37:15,917 And that's when I knew for certain 683 00:37:16,042 --> 00:37:18,208 that she was no longer alive. 684 00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:25,667 August 16th, we got a phone call 685 00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:28,750 that they had found a body at the bottom of a mineshaft, 686 00:37:28,833 --> 00:37:30,833 and he was pretty sure it was Erin. 687 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:34,042 In a strange way, 688 00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:39,000 there was almost a peace because it was over. 689 00:37:39,917 --> 00:37:41,333 We weren't going to wonder 690 00:37:41,417 --> 00:37:44,958 for years and years what truly happened to her. 691 00:37:50,542 --> 00:37:53,375 When I learned Chris was arrested, 692 00:37:53,458 --> 00:37:56,833 it was like a "yes" moment. 693 00:37:58,583 --> 00:38:01,500 I wanted to be at the trial every day 694 00:38:01,542 --> 00:38:03,167 because I felt like it was the last time 695 00:38:03,250 --> 00:38:04,625 I could support my daughter. 696 00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:10,333 The hardest thing was when they did the demonstration 697 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:14,000 with the dummy on how he strangled Erin. 698 00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:16,292 I just closed my eyes and prayed. 699 00:38:16,375 --> 00:38:17,625 I didn't need to see it. 700 00:38:20,208 --> 00:38:22,375 There was no remorse. 701 00:38:22,458 --> 00:38:25,375 It was like he was a robot. 702 00:38:26,792 --> 00:38:32,083 He, at one point in time, cried, but there were no tears. 703 00:38:32,167 --> 00:38:33,500 It wasn't genuine. 704 00:38:35,917 --> 00:38:37,667 When Chris was found guilty, 705 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:39,917 I was relieved that it was all over 706 00:38:39,917 --> 00:38:42,750 and that he was gonna have consequences for his actions. 707 00:38:45,875 --> 00:38:48,875 - In 2016, Christopher Lee was found guilty 708 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,167 of first degree murder 709 00:38:50,292 --> 00:38:53,958 and sentenced to life in prison without parole. 710 00:38:54,083 --> 00:38:57,708 He appealed the sentence in 2018, but it was denied. 711 00:38:59,542 --> 00:39:04,333 - Erin's legacy is she's an incredible young lady 712 00:39:04,417 --> 00:39:09,333 that loved life, loved animals, 713 00:39:09,458 --> 00:39:13,292 and was an extremely loyal friend. 714 00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:18,583 - Five miles away from the mineshaft where Erin was found, 715 00:39:18,667 --> 00:39:22,500 wellwishers built a rock garden in her memory. 716 00:39:24,125 --> 00:39:29,083 A killer nurse, a fugitive couple, a deadly jilted ex, 717 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:33,417 and a lonely young wife murdered by her lover. 718 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,583 On the surface, it's no surprise 719 00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:39,667 that these tales of toxic love made national headlines, 720 00:39:41,042 --> 00:39:44,750 but behind these sensational cases are real people 721 00:39:44,833 --> 00:39:47,833 whose worlds were changed forever. 722 00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:52,500 Families torn apart and promising young lives cut short 723 00:39:52,625 --> 00:39:55,875 by hasty and heartless decisions. 724 00:39:57,292 --> 00:40:01,083 - It's important that Erin's story is told. 725 00:40:01,208 --> 00:40:02,583 Parents will private message me, 726 00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:04,083 "How do I get through this?" 727 00:40:04,208 --> 00:40:07,000 I can just share what helped me. 728 00:40:07,125 --> 00:40:10,667 And God has allowed me to help people walk through it. 729 00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:14,417 And if it can help somebody else, then it's worth telling.