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I have concluded the ABM Treaty

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hinders our government's
ability to develop ways

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to protect our people
from future terrorists

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or rogue state missile attacks.

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<i>Today I have given
formal notice to Russia</i>

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<i>that the United States
of America</i>

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<i>is withdrawing from this
almost 30-year-old treaty.</i>

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On what basis?

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The system we are contemplating

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would not undermine
Russia's deterrent

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or the principles of mutual
deterrence and strategic stability.

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The missile defense
capabilities we are developing

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are not designed to defend
against Russia,

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just as the new NATO
we are building

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is not designed
to defend against Russia.

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The Cold War is over.

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<i>Russia is not our enemy.</i>

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- Okay, so no rules.
- New rules.

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American rules.

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<i>Oh, well, this is actually
what Reagan and Gorbachev</i>

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<i>came so close to achieving
in 1986.</i>

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<i>At one point, they wanted
to go all the way...</i>

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<i>Complete disarmament.</i>

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<i>Right, right.</i>

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So stop referring to them
as partners, our partners.

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You've said that too much.

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You should wish me a...

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happy Fourth of July, being
that the, uh... an American.

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It's our independence day,
so to speak.

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So, uh, in a, in a hot war,

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is the US dominant? Yes or no?

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No.

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It would, it would be
a case of, uh,

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Russia surviving it?

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Even with the missile shields?

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This was originally proposed,
you know, by John Kennedy,

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<i>with Nikita Khrushchev in 1963.</i>

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<i>- I know.
- It was a crazy time.</i>

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Uh... Stanley Kubrick,
a filmmaker I much admire,

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made a wonderful film
called <i>Dr. Strangelove</i>

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How I Learned to Love the Bomb.

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<i>Has he seen it?</i>

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- No.
- Ah, you must see it.

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Really, it's well worth it.

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It's a classic. Because the...

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<i>Mr. Kennedy was dealing
with the military system</i>

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that had been growing and
growing since World War II,

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<i>and the generals,
at that point, knew</i>

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that the Soviet Union did not
have the capacity to match them.

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And many of them said, this is the
time to hit the Soviet Union.

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So there was a desire for a
unilateral strike against Russia.

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<i>Kennedy said, you're crazy,</i>

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<i>and then as, as other situations
developed in Berlin and Cuba,</i>

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<i>it became more dangerous.</i>

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♪ ♪

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Well, the United States
has become more right wing

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since the Ronald Reagan era,

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and now we have Hillary
Clinton on the left...

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Supposed left, she's the Democratic
challenger, probably will be...

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Making very aggressive statements
also against, uh, about Ukraine

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and comparing
Mr. Putin to, uh, Hitler.

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The United States has never really
had a war on its own homeland...

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- That's true.
- And to many people,

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who are very important people,
war is somewhat of a game.

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I fear that still
in the United States.

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I fear the neo...
The neoconservative element

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as being so hungry...

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to make their point, to win their
case, that it's dangerous.

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<i>Uh, hello, D... hello, Dimitri.</i>

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<i>Listen, uh,
I can't hear too well.</i>

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Do you suppose you could turn
the music down just a little?

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<i>Oh, oh, that's much better.</i>

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<i>Yeah. Yeah.</i>

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<i>Now then, Dimitri, you know how</i>

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<i>we've always talked
about the possibility</i>

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<i>of something going wrong
with the bomb.</i>

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<i>The bomb, Dimitri.</i>

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<i>The hydrogen bomb.</i>

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<i>Well, now, what happened is, uh,</i>

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<i>one of our base commanders,</i>

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<i>he had a sort of...</i>

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<i>Well, he went
a little funny in the head,</i>

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<i>you know,
just a little... funny.</i>

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<i>And, uh, he went and did
a silly thing.</i>

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<i>Well, I'll tell you what he did.
He ordered his planes...</i>

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<i>to attack your country.</i>

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<i>Yes, but, uh, the whole point
of the doomsday machine</i>

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<i>is lost...</i>

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<i>if you keep it a secret.</i>

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<i>Why didn't you tell
the world, eh?</i>

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<i>It was to be announced</i>

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<i>at the Party Congress on Monday.</i>

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<i>As you know,
the premier loves surprises.</i>

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<i>Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo!</i>

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<i>Woo-woo-ha!</i>

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<i>Woo, woo-hoo!</i>

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<i>Woo-hoo!</i>

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<i>♪ We'll meet again ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Don't know where,
don't know when... ♪</i>

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A lot of this footage
was unknown at that time.

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It was, you know,
revealed in this movie.

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Thank you for indulging me.

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I thought the, uh, the Russian
premier was very good.

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He was... Dimitri.

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The concept of nuclear winter,
you know, the end of the world,

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that was the, uh,
you know, the hydrogen bomb.

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The scientists, they talked about
it in... right after the war,

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and, uh, Truman
went ahead anyway.

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I believe that.

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- At some point.
- Thank you very much. Bye.

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Okay.

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Thank you so much.

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There you go.

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Bye-bye.

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♪ ♪

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You look colorful.

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You look like... Mighty Mouse.
No, that's cool.

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Very nice.

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Yeah, we'll be, uh,
on the ice, looking at you.

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Any advice?

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But he's told
all the other hockey players

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that he's gonna score
two goals or one?

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Do they check him
as hard as they want?

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<i>You started
playing hockey at 40?</i>

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Three years ago.
Really? At age 50?

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That's pretty cool.

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Oh, at age 60. I'm sorry.

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<i>I keep thinking you're 53,
instead you're 63.</i>

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<i>You know,
I couldn't skate before that.</i>

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<i>I know. I heard that.</i>

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You fell down one time.

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<i>You were tired.</i>

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<i>Twice.</i>

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Tired in the legs, no?

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At your age? Come on.

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If he gets checked, I mean, he
could easily break a bone, right?

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<i>What if, uh, one of the men
on either team admitted...</i>

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<i>In Russia... that he was gay?</i>

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Could he keep it quiet?

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Well, you have
the propaganda law.

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Yeah.

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<i>There's a tradition, though...</i>

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<i>Whatever he says,
there's a tradition...</i>

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<i>There is a macho tradition
in Russia,</i>

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<i>a pretty strong one.</i>

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No, that's different.

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Is that true
in the military as well?

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- No restriction in the military?
- No prohibition.

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I mean, if you're taking
a shower in a submarine

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with a man
and you know he's gay,

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then do they have
a problem with that?

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Could I just point out,
even in a society

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where there's some malfunction,
there will be many orphans,

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and some of those orphans
could be adopted

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by same-sex couples?

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<i>Gay people across Russia say there's
been a surge of intolerance,</i>

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<i>discrimination and violence,</i>

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<i>and it started around the time
Russia's parliament passed</i>

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<i>what's become known
as the "gay propaganda law."</i>

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Moscow is not Sodom.

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We are here to support normal people
that want to create families.

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<i>I hear you work out
almost every day</i>

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<i>or five times a week?</i>

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<i>- Seven days? No.
- Yes.</i>

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<i>That's too much.</i>

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Swim first, then gym?

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Right. Then relax the muscles.

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Do you think when you swim?

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Do you get ideas...

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from the unconscious? Do you
find it to be meditative?

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This is for badminton or what?

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♪ ♪

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Judo master, yeah.

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- Very much. Yeah.
- Yes? Is good?

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<i>So all your, uh, all your
energy, your aggressive energy</i>

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<i>comes out in judo
in the morning, or exercise?</i>

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<i>Does he have a trainer?</i>

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- Well, I used to have one.
- Yeah.

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And I think I'm a master.

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Probably helps you a lot. Yeah.

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I have to raise some concerns

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that are raised
by <i>Foreign Affairs</i> magazine,

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which I consider like the
official government viewpoint.

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This is the Council
for Foreign Relations,

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they publish this,
and they have all these experts

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who come in and they write
on their fields in Russia.

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Some of these questions
are raised by them.

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Yeah...

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Putin's Russia, down...

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That's, that's their
point of view, yeah.

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I understand.

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This is their... This is
an official point of view,

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and therefore, it has... it is
listened to in Washington,

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and this is what
he has to deal with.

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I'm not gonna argue with that.

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Why did you... after 2001...

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Why did you acquiesce

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in the US military encroachment
across Central Asia?

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He said that they were...

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He said that they were not
gonna stay forever?

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When was the wool pulled
from his eyes?

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No, I mean, by 2007 in Munich,

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he's casting another eye
on this relationship, correct?

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What happens between 2002-03,

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he has the Iraqi invasion,

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then he has the Ukrainian
orange revolution in 2004.

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What is he thinking when the
Ukrainian revolution goes down?

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<i>Hundreds of thousands of pro-democracy
Ukrainians in the streets</i>

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<i>today protested against the results
of the presidential election,</i>

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<i>pitting their candidate, the West-leaning
challenger Victor Yushchenko,</i>

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<i>against the pro-Moscow prime
minister Victor Yanukovych.</i>

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<i>They claim Yanukovych's
victory was rigged,</i>

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<i>with reports of ballot stuffing
and voter intimidation.</i>

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In Ukraine today,
anti-government demonstrators

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finally had something
to celebrate.

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<i>The parliament voted to disband
the government of the candidate</i>

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<i>who has been declared the winner of
the disputed presidential election.</i>

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<i>Opposition leader Victor
Yuschenko joined his supporters</i>

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<i>in a victory celebration
early this morning.</i>

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<i>With most votes counted,
the Western-leaning economist</i>

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<i>leads by an insurmountable
nine percentage points.</i>

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<i>He thanked the hundreds of thousands
who had taken to the streets</i>

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<i>to demand democratic change.</i>

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<i>Earlier, his opponent, the Soviet-style
prime minister Victor Yanukovych,</i>

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<i>looked defeated
but conceded nothing.</i>

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He let that situation go, but
then somewhere between 2004

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and 2007 in Munich,
the ball moves the other way.

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Iraq's a disaster,
Afghanistan's been a disaster.

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Somewhere in there,
he changes his point of view.

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I can't wait to visit with, uh,

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my friend Vladimir Putin
in Shanghai...

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to reiterate, once again,

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that the Cold War is over,

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it's done with,

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and that there are
new threats that we face.

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Yeah, I know.

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Yeah.

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I know it.

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<i>We know that Bush supported</i>

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<i>the Georgian offensive in 2008.</i>

241
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,130
Georgia is under attack
from its neighbor Russia,

242
00:31:06,130 --> 00:31:09,840
and the whole day today,
they've been bombing Georgia

243
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,640
from, uh, numerous war planes,

244
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,970
uh, and, uh, specifically
targeting civilian population.

245
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:19,940
The United States
of America stands

246
00:31:19,940 --> 00:31:22,360
with the democratically
elected government of Georgia.

247
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,280
<i>Columns of Russian tanks and troops
rolled into the American-backed</i>

248
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,400
<i>former Soviet Republic
of Georgia today.</i>

249
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,950
<i>Georgia attacked its then breakaway
Republic of South Ossetia,</i>

250
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:35,950
<i>with the aim of bringing it back
under Tbilisi's control.</i>

251
00:31:35,950 --> 00:31:39,210
<i>But Georgia is reported to have resumed
aerial and artillery bombardment</i>

252
00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:42,380
<i>of Tskhinvali, the main town
in South Ossetia.</i>

253
00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:43,710
<i>Hundreds of civilians</i>

254
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:44,540
<i>and more than 70 peacekeepers</i>

255
00:31:44,540 --> 00:31:47,000
<i>were killed in
the following days.</i>

256
00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:10,860
Did you take a gamble?

257
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:16,160
Your government launched its own
attempt to retake South Ossetia, um,

258
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,240
- just 24 hours ago.
- No, we didn't.

259
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,870
- Was that unwise in retrospect?
- We didn't.

260
00:32:21,870 --> 00:32:25,590
We didn't.
At twenty-four a. m. last night,

261
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:29,340
Russian APCs started to cross
into Georgian territory.

262
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:30,880
And there we had to act.

263
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,090
There we had
to fire back the artillery.

264
00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:37,430
There we had to take measures, because
it was a clear-cut case of intervention.

265
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:41,980
Do you think that, uh, the US,
uh, or NATO in any way

266
00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:46,610
were supporting Saakashvili to do this?
Or told him to... it was okay to try?

267
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,500
As you know,
Putin's a straightforward,

268
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,380
pretty tough character...

269
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:13,970
when it comes to his interests.
Well, so am I.

270
00:33:13,970 --> 00:33:17,600
And, uh, you know, we've had
some, some headbutts...

271
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,310
diplomatic headbutts.

272
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:25,480
Most Americans think that Russia
is certainly as bad as the US

273
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,980
when it comes
to, uh, surveillance.

274
00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:31,320
As bad. That's just an assumption,
because of the old KGB.

275
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,670
You're serious about that? I mean, you
don't think you're as good technically?

276
00:33:46,670 --> 00:33:48,972
I'm not talking about money.
I'm talking about technically.

277
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,260
Yeah, that's different, though.

278
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:16,360
Is Russia collecting any bulk
communication in any form?

279
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,200
Everything is sort of targeted?

280
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,460
We're just talking about collection,
not reading it, just collecting it.

281
00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:29,330
Just using all the telephone system
or using all the Internet system.

282
00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:40,550
Fifteen percent of
the population is Islamic,

283
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:41,970
in Russia, that's what I'm told,

284
00:34:41,970 --> 00:34:44,310
and many of them are in Moscow.

285
00:34:47,140 --> 00:34:49,060
<i>So, then you're telling me</i>

286
00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:51,360
<i>that there's no
bulk collection on Muslims?</i>

287
00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:18,840
Yes. Have a good night, sir.

288
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,760
Good night to you.

289
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,890
<i>- Spasibo.</i>
- Thank you.

290
00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:24,850
- Oliver's wife.
- Nice to meet you, ma'am.

291
00:35:24,850 --> 00:35:26,560
Very nice to meet you,
Mr. President.

292
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,140
- Your first time in Russia?
- Yeah, first time in Russia, yes.

293
00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:30,190
- Not in Saint Petersburg?
- No, no, just in Moscow.

294
00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:32,940
You must go now
to Saint Petersburg.

295
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:33,730
- Okay. Thank you.
- Bye-bye.

296
00:35:33,730 --> 00:35:37,990
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297
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:52,380
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298
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:55,210
Um, I want to talk
about Snowden a bit?

299
00:35:55,210 --> 00:35:58,920
<i>You said that
you're in good with Bush.</i>

300
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,260
<i>And, presumably,
you were good with Obama.</i>

301
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,850
You were dealing
with him on Syria,

302
00:36:04,850 --> 00:36:07,310
you were dealing
with him on Iran.

303
00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:09,020
And then, uh, out of the blue,

304
00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:11,480
you give asylum
to Edward Snowden.

305
00:36:39,590 --> 00:36:43,300
So it's June 2013,
you get a call, I suppose.

306
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:46,260
You hear that Snowden is
on the way.

307
00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:49,850
I'm sure you get calls
from the US, including Obama.

308
00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:53,100
How do you handle... How does the situation
devolve, and how do you handle it?

309
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:45,450
He just disappeared?

310
00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:05,420
<i>To Cuba, yeah.</i>

311
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:09,050
<i>And then Ecuador. Yeah.</i>

312
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:29,370
While he was in the plane?

313
00:38:57,890 --> 00:38:59,020
<i>Why not?</i>

314
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,810
Did Obama get on a phone
with you?

315
00:39:46,030 --> 00:39:50,990
Uh, let me ask you, I'm sure you must
have... As an ex-KGB, uh, agent...

316
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:55,870
You must have hated what Snowden did
with every fiber of your being.

317
00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:13,050
<i>Right.</i>

318
00:40:13,050 --> 00:40:15,390
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319
00:40:19,390 --> 00:40:21,100
Did you agree with what he did?

320
00:40:26,570 --> 00:40:30,360
Did you think the, uh, National
Security Agency had gone too far

321
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,360
in its eavesdropping?

322
00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:01,180
But he should not have whistled?

323
00:41:02,770 --> 00:41:06,860
So, he's saying that he should
not have whistle-blown,

324
00:41:06,860 --> 00:41:11,070
and he should've resigned, in
principle, on the principle,

325
00:41:11,070 --> 00:41:14,450
like Mr. Putin did
when he resigned from the KGB?

326
00:41:30,130 --> 00:41:33,800
Okay. So, uh, you do agree
that the NSA went too far?

327
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,100
And how do you feel about Russian intelligence
activities in their surveillance?

328
00:42:08,540 --> 00:42:10,170
<i>In a scene in the movie, we show</i>

329
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:13,130
<i>where Snowden
discusses the heat map.</i>

330
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:17,050
Okay, so this is data collection
for the month of March,

331
00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:20,010
worldwide,
e-mails and Skype calls.

332
00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:21,470
So France, 70 million.

333
00:42:21,470 --> 00:42:23,850
Germany, 500 million.

334
00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:26,230
Brazil, two billion.

335
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:28,520
Inside the US,

336
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,730
3.1 billion e-mails and calls.

337
00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:34,400
That's not including
any of the telecom company data.

338
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,530
Okay, so what's
the collection of Russia?

339
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:38,990
Russia is...

340
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:40,370
1.5 billion.

341
00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:43,040
Wait. So we're collecting
twice as much in the US

342
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,870
- as we are in Russia?
- Yeah, I figured it was a lot...

343
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:47,160
<i>- Russia is number two,
- US is number one.</i>

344
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,310
Well, you must be spying on the US,
because if the US is spying on you,

345
00:43:06,310 --> 00:43:09,310
I mean, the Americans are gonna
say, I'm sure you're spying on us.

346
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:20,070
<i>The Snowden affair in terms
of the US-Russia relationship</i>

347
00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:22,280
<i>seemed to turn, was a big deal</i>

348
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,410
<i>for the neoconservative
movement in the US.</i>

349
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:28,120
<i>And the neocons seemed to focus
in on Russia once again.</i>

350
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,250
<i>It wasn't too long afterward
that the Ukraine issue came up.</i>

351
00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:35,630
<i>I think I would consider
Snowden a pawn in a game.</i>

352
00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:40,090
<i>Unless they wanted him here,
in Moscow, to embarrass.</i>

353
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:48,270
Really?

354
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,370
Very strong.

355
00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:12,710
<i>Well, one thing is clear.</i>

356
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:15,460
<i>I think the only place in the
world where he's... safe</i>

357
00:44:15,460 --> 00:44:18,260
<i>is here, in Russia.</i>

358
00:44:22,590 --> 00:44:24,180
And there's
a great irony in this.

359
00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:25,430
<i>In the old days,</i>

360
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:29,060
<i>the Russian defectors would go
to the United States.</i>

361
00:44:29,060 --> 00:44:31,020
<i>This is a reversal.</i>

362
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:37,440
<i>- No, I'm not saying that.
- I'm saying it's ironic.</i>

363
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,740
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364
00:45:30,370 --> 00:45:31,950
<i>So, uh, this is your dacha.</i>

365
00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:35,040
<i>Your ranch.</i>

366
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Official state residence.
And you come here on weekends?

367
00:45:45,130 --> 00:45:48,050
So it's about 25 minutes,
20 minutes from Moscow.

368
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,360
His adoption of orthodox religion
back into the Russian system,

369
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,860
he's been a proponent of that.

370
00:46:02,990 --> 00:46:06,820
I understand, but there's been
a renaissance of...

371
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:24,010
Right.

372
00:46:24,010 --> 00:46:26,300
When he comes here, does...

373
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:29,260
Where does he, uh,
sit if he sits?

374
00:46:29,260 --> 00:46:31,810
Are there any chairs?
Does he sit down?

375
00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:37,270
<i>So how do you...?</i>

376
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:39,270
The mass is while you stand.

377
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:40,650
Aha.

378
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,610
I see.

379
00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:51,370
People don't pray in... uh, kneeling.
They pray standing.

380
00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:01,080
This weekend, you have guests
coming over for the weekend?

381
00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:11,050
The two daughters are married,
and they bring their husbands,

382
00:47:11,050 --> 00:47:13,310
so you meet your son-in-laws
on the weekend?

383
00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:20,310
So are you a grandfather yet?

384
00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:23,110
Do you like your grandchildren?

385
00:47:23,110 --> 00:47:26,530
So, are you a good grandfather? Do
you play with them in the garden?

386
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:33,370
Very seldom. Do you...

387
00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:35,290
Do the son-in-laws argue
with you?

388
00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:39,250
They have different opinions?
They give you sort of gossip?

389
00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:45,340
Daughters too?

390
00:47:52,010 --> 00:47:53,100
Yeah. Yeah.

391
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,850
Yeah, that's amazing.

392
00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:00,560
You're a very lucky man.

393
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,020
Two good children.

394
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,360
Yeah.

395
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,240
Good. So...

396
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,490
♪ ♪

397
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:23,210
That's a beauty.
What is this, a race horse?

398
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:31,970
Looks like a thoroughbred.

399
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,470
Yeah?

400
00:48:38,060 --> 00:48:39,720
He rides them all?

401
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,440
Well, if they throw you,
these are big horses.

402
00:48:56,950 --> 00:49:00,080
Yeah. That's dangerous.

403
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,580
I must've fallen off
five, six times.

404
00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:05,130
And here's a tiny one.

405
00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:08,170
♪ ♪

406
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:18,140
You have the largest
Muslim population in Europe.

407
00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:25,190
You've mentioned in the past
the, uh, white, uh,

408
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:27,900
the Russian ethnic population
is diminishing.

409
00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:33,570
Right.

410
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,750
You've said several times
in the last two days, you know,

411
00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:15,050
that Russia is a democracy.

412
00:51:15,050 --> 00:51:17,050
Your critics in America,
and there are many,

413
00:51:17,050 --> 00:51:19,220
would say that Russia
is not a democracy,

414
00:51:19,220 --> 00:51:23,970
Russia is a traditional
authoritarian state...

415
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,140
and that, uh, there is, uh...

416
00:51:27,140 --> 00:51:29,730
The parliament does not decide,

417
00:51:29,730 --> 00:51:31,150
does not make major decisions.

418
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:36,610
There's limited access to, uh,
television for the opposition parties,

419
00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:40,320
that... your party
dominates the media.

420
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,070
The registration process
is difficult

421
00:51:42,070 --> 00:51:45,240
for these opposition parties,

422
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,410
that there's a lack
of judicial independence,

423
00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:51,670
although that's an old problem
in Russia, I gather.

424
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:54,420
These are the criticisms
that are often launched at you.

425
00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:58,300
I'd love you to take a chance
here and respond to that.

426
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,930
♪ ♪

427
00:54:54,270 --> 00:54:57,100
What do you think of these
candidates in the US election?

428
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,780
No, we want to hear
what you think.

429
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:09,110
This is a personal thing,
uh, characters.

430
00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:32,455
<i>- How about Bernie Sanders?
- Would you like that?</i>

431
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,380
Yeah. I get it.

432
00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:10,220
But you didn't answer
my question about Sanders.

433
00:56:10,220 --> 00:56:11,300
Do you like him?

434
00:56:13,930 --> 00:56:15,890
Aah!

435
00:56:21,890 --> 00:56:22,890
Yeah.

436
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,060
But you do realize how powerful
your answer could be

437
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:01,730
if you said suddenly
that you prefer X candidate...

438
00:57:03,060 --> 00:57:04,770
he would go like that tomorrow.

439
00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:08,110
And if you say you didn't like
Trump or something, right?

440
00:57:08,110 --> 00:57:09,400
What would happen?
He'd win, right?

441
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,240
You have that amount
of power in the US.

442
00:57:28,590 --> 00:57:31,920
Thank you, sir.
We'll see you tomorrow.

443
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,090
Talk about some heavier stuff.

444
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:35,050
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445
00:57:35,050 --> 00:57:36,550
Thank you, sir.

446
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:42,810
- Yes. Thanks very much.
- Bye-bye.

447
00:57:42,810 --> 00:57:45,940
♪ ♪