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I have concluded the ABM Treaty

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hinders our government's
ability to develop ways

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to protect our people
from future terrorists

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or rogue state missile attacks.

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<i>Today I have given formal notice to Russia</i>

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<i>that the United States of America</i>

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<i>is withdrawing from this
almost 30-year-old treaty.</i>

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On what basis?

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The system we are contemplating

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would not undermine Russia's deterrent

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or the principles of mutual
deterrence and strategic stability.

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The missile defense
capabilities we are developing

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are not designed to defend against Russia,

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just as the new NATO we are building

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is not designed to defend against Russia.

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The Cold War is over.

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<i>Russia is not our enemy.</i>

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- Okay, so no rules.
- New rules.

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American rules.

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<i>Oh, well, this is actually
what Reagan and Gorbachev</i>

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<i>came so close to achieving in 1986.</i>

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<i>At one point, they
wanted to go all the way...</i>

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<i>complete disarmament.</i>

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<i>Right, right.</i>

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So stop referring to them
as partners, our partners.

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You've said that too much.

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You should wish me a...

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happy Fourth of July, being
that the, uh... an American.

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It's our independence day, so to speak.

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So, uh, in a, in a hot war,

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is the US dominant?
Yes or no?

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No.

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It would, it would be a case of, uh,

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Russia surviving it?

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Even with the missile shields?

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This was originally proposed,
you know, by John Kennedy,

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<i>with Nikita Khrushchev in 1963.</i>

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<i>- I know.
- It was a crazy time.</i>

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Uh... Stanley Kubrick,
a filmmaker I much admire,

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made a wonderful film
called <i>Dr. Strangelove</i>

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Or: How I Learned
to Love the Bomb.

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<i>Has he seen it?</i>

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- No.
- Ah, you must see it.

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Really, it's well worth it.

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It's a classic.
Because the...

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<i>Mr. Kennedy was dealing
with the military system</i>

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that had been growing and
growing since World War II,

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<i>and the generals, at that point, knew</i>

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that the Soviet Union did not
have the capacity to match them.

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And many of them said, this is
the time to hit the Soviet Union.

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So there was a desire for a
unilateral strike against Russia.

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<i>Kennedy said, you're crazy,</i>

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<i>and then as, as other situations
developed in Berlin and Cuba,</i>

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<i>it became more dangerous.</i>

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Well, the United States
has become more right wing

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since the Ronald Reagan era,

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and now we have
Hillary Clinton on the left...

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supposed left, she's the Democratic
challenger, probably will be...

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making very aggressive statements
also against, uh, about Ukraine

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and comparing
Mr. Putin to, uh, Hitler.

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The United States has never really
had a war on its own homeland...

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- That's true.
- ...and to many people,

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who are very important people,
war is somewhat of a game.

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I fear that still in the United States.

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I fear the neo...
the neoconservative element

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as being so hungry...

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to make their point, to win
their case, that it's dangerous.

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<i>Uh, hello, D... hello, Dimitri.</i>

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<i>Listen, uh, I can't hear too well.</i>

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Do you suppose you could turn
the music down just a little?

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<i>Oh, oh, that's much better.</i>

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<i>Yeah. Yeah.</i>

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<i>Now then, Dimitri, you know how</i>

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<i>we've always talked about the possibility</i>

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<i>of something going wrong with the bomb.</i>

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<i>The bomb, Dimitri.</i>

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<i>The hydrogen bomb.</i>

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<i>Well, now, what happened is, uh,</i>

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<i>one of our base commanders,</i>

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<i>he had a sort of...</i>

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<i>well, he went a little funny in the head,</i>

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<i>you know,
just a little... funny.</i>

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<i>And, uh, he went and did a silly thing.</i>

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<i>Well, I'll tell you what he did.
He ordered his planes...</i>

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<i>to attack your country.</i>

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<i>Yes, but, uh, the whole point
of the doomsday machine</i>

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<i>is lost...</i>

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<i>if you keep it a secret.</i>

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<i>Why didn't you tell the world, eh?</i>

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<i>It was to be announced</i>

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<i>at the Party Congress on Monday.</i>

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<i>As you know, the premier loves surprises.</i>

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<i>Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo!</i>

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<i>Woo-woo-ha!</i>

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<i>Woo, woo-hoo!</i>

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<i>Woo-hoo!</i>

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A lot of this footage
was unknown at that time.

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It was, you know, revealed in this movie.

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Thank you for indulging me.

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I thought the, uh, the Russian
premier was very good.

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He was... Dimitri.

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The concept of nuclear winter,
you know, the end of the world,

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that was the, uh,
you know, the hydrogen bomb.

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The scientists, they talked
about it in... right after the war,

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and, uh, Truman went ahead anyway.

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I believe that.

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- At some point.
- Thank you very much. Bye.

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Okay.

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Thank you so much.

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There you go.

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Bye-bye.

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You look colorful.

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You look like... Mighty
Mouse. No, that's cool.

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Very nice.

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Yeah, we'll be, uh,
on the ice, looking at you.

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Any advice?

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But he's told all the other hockey players

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that he's gonna score two goals or one?

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Do they check him as hard as they want?

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<i>You started playing hockey at 40?</i>

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Three years ago.
Really? At age 50?

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That's pretty cool.

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Oh, at age 60.
I'm sorry.

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<i>I keep thinking you're 53,
instead you're 63.</i>

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<i>You know, I couldn't skate before that.</i>

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<i>I know. I heard that.</i>

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You fell down one time.

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<i>You were tired.</i>

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<i>Twice.</i>

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Tired in the legs, no?

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At your age? Come on.

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If he gets checked, I mean, he
could easily break a bone, right?

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<i>What if, uh, one of the men
on either team admitted...</i>

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<i>in Russia... that he was gay?</i>

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Could he keep it quiet?

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Well, you have the propaganda law.

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Yeah.

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<i>There's a tradition, though...</i>

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<i>whatever he says, there's a tradition...</i>

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<i>there is a macho tradition in Russia,</i>

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<i>a pretty strong one.</i>

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No, that's different.

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Is that true in the military as well?

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- No restriction in the military?
- No prohibition.

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I mean, if you're taking
a shower in a submarine

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with a man and you know he's gay,

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then do they have a problem with that?

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Could I just point out, even in a society

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where there's some malfunction,
there will be many orphans,

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and some of those orphans could be adopted

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by same-sex couples?

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<i>Gay people across Russia say
there's been a surge of intolerance,</i>

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<i>discrimination and violence,</i>

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<i>and it started around the time
Russia's parliament passed</i>

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<i>what's become known
as the "gay propaganda law."</i>

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Moscow is not Sodom.

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We are here to support normal
people that want to create families.

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<i>I hear you work out almost every day</i>

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<i>or five times a week?</i>

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<i>- Seven days? No.
- Yes.</i>

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<i>That's too much.</i>

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Swim first, then gym?

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Right.
Then relax the muscles.

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Do you think when you swim?

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Do you get ideas...

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from the unconscious? Do
you find it to be meditative?

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This is for badminton or what?

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Judo master, yeah.

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- Very much. Yeah.
- Yes? Is good?

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<i>So all your, uh, all your
energy, your aggressive energy</i>

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<i>comes out in judo
in the morning, or exercise?</i>

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<i>Does he have a trainer?</i>

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- Well, I used to have one.
- Yeah.

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And I think I'm a master.

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Probably helps
you a lot. Yeah.

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I have to raise some concerns

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that are raised
by <i>Foreign Affairs</i> magazine,

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which I consider like the
official government viewpoint.

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This is the Council for Foreign Relations,

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they publish this,
and they have all these experts

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who come in and they write
on their fields in Russia.

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Some of these questions are raised by them.

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Yeah...

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Putin's Russia, down...

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That's, that's their point of view, yeah.

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I understand.

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This is their... This is
an official point of view,

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and therefore, it has... it is
listened to in Washington,

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and this is what he has to deal with.

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I'm not gonna argue with that.

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Why did you... after 2001...

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why did you acquiesce

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in the US military encroachment
across Central Asia?

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He said that they were...

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He said that they were not
gonna stay forever?

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When was the wool pulled from his eyes?

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No, I mean, by 2007 in Munich,

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he's casting another eye
on this relationship, correct?

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What happens between 2002-03,

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he has the Iraqi invasion,

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then he has the Ukrainian
orange revolution in 2004.

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What is he thinking when the
Ukrainian revolution goes down?

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<i>Hundreds of thousands of
pro-democracy Ukrainians in the streets</i>

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<i>today protested against the
results of the presidential election,</i>

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<i>pitting their candidate, the West-leaning
challenger Victor Yushchenko,</i>

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<i>against the pro-Moscow prime
minister Victor Yanukovych.</i>

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<i>They claim Yanukovych's victory was rigged,</i>

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<i>with reports of ballot stuffing
and voter intimidation.</i>

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In Ukraine today,
anti-government demonstrators

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finally had something to celebrate.

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<i>The parliament voted to disband
the government of the candidate</i>

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<i>who has been declared the winner
of the disputed presidential election.</i>

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<i>Opposition leader Victor
Yuschenko joined his supporters</i>

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<i>in a victory celebration
early this morning.</i>

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<i>With most votes counted,
the Western-leaning economist</i>

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<i>leads by an insurmountable
nine percentage points.</i>

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<i>He thanked the hundreds of
thousands who had taken to the streets</i>

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<i>to demand democratic change.</i>

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<i>Earlier, his opponent, the Soviet-style
prime minister Victor Yanukovych,</i>

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<i>looked defeated but conceded nothing.</i>

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He let that situation go, but
then somewhere between 2004

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and 2007 in Munich,
the ball moves the other way.

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Iraq's a disaster,
Afghanistan's been a disaster.

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Somewhere in there,
he changes his point of view.

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I can't wait to visit with, uh,

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my friend Vladimir Putin in Shanghai...

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to reiterate, once again,

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that the Cold War is over,

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it's done with,

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and that there are
new threats that we face.

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Yeah, I know.

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Yeah.

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I know it.

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<i>We know that Bush supported</i>

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<i>the Georgian offensive in 2008.</i>

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Georgia is under attack
from its neighbor Russia,

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and the whole day today,
they've been bombing Georgia

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from, uh, numerous war planes,

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uh, and, uh, specifically
targeting civilian population.

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The United States of America stands

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with the democratically
elected government of Georgia.

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<i>Columns of Russian tanks and
troops rolled into the American-backed</i>

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<i>former Soviet Republic of Georgia today.</i>

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<i>Georgia attacked its then
breakaway Republic of South Ossetia,</i>

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<i>with the aim of bringing it back
under Tbilisi's control.</i>

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<i>But Georgia is reported to have
resumed aerial and artillery bombardment</i>

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<i>of Tskhinvali, the main town
in South Ossetia.</i>

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<i>Hundreds of civilians</i>

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<i>and more than 70 peacekeepers</i>

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<i>were killed in the following days.</i>

251
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Did you take a gamble?

252
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Your government launched its own
attempt to retake South Ossetia, um,

253
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- just 24 hours ago.
- No, we didn't.

254
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- Was that unwise in retrospect?
- We didn't.

255
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We didn't.
At twenty-four a. m. last night,

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Russian APCs started to cross
into Georgian territory.

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And there we had to act.

258
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There we had to fire back the artillery.

259
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There we had to take measures, because
it was a clear-cut case of intervention.

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Do you think that, uh, the US,
uh, or NATO in any way

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were supporting Saakashvili to do
this? Or told him to... it was okay to try?

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As you know, Putin's a straightforward,

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pretty tough character...

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when it comes to his interests.
Well, so am I.

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And, uh, you know, we've had
some, some headbutts...

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diplomatic headbutts.

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Most Americans think that
Russia is certainly as bad as the US

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when it comes to, uh, surveillance.

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As bad. That's just an
assumption, because of the old KGB.

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You're serious about that? I mean,
you don't think you're as good technically?

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I'm not talking about money.
I'm talking about technically.

272
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Yeah, that's different, though.

273
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Is Russia collecting any bulk
communication in any form?

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Everything is sort of targeted?

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We're just talking about collection,
not reading it, just collecting it.

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Just using all the telephone system
or using all the Internet system.

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Fifteen percent of
the population is Islamic,

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in Russia, that's what I'm told,

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and many of them are in Moscow.

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<i>So, then you're telling me</i>

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<i>that there's no bulk collection on Muslims?</i>

282
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Yes. Have
a good night, sir.

283
00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:20,734
Good night to you.

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<i>- Spasibo.</i>
- Thank you.

285
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- Oliver's wife.
- Nice to meet you, ma'am.

286
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:26,531
Very nice to meet you,
Mr. President.

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00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:29,117
- Your first time in Russia?
- Yeah, first time in Russia, yes.

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- Not in Saint Petersburg?
- No, no, just in Moscow.

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You must go now to Saint Petersburg.

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- Okay. Thank you.
- Bye-bye.

291
00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:55,185
Um, I want to talk about Snowden a bit?

292
00:35:55,195 --> 00:35:58,897
<i>You said that you're in good with Bush.</i>

293
00:35:58,907 --> 00:36:01,237
<i>And, presumably, you were good with Obama.</i>

294
00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:04,819
You were dealing with him on Syria,

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you were dealing with him on Iran.

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And then, uh, out of the blue,

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you give asylum to Edward Snowden.

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So it's June 2013,
you get a call, I suppose.

299
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You hear that Snowden is on the way.

300
00:36:46,246 --> 00:36:49,823
I'm sure you get calls
from the US, including Obama.

301
00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:53,093
How do you handle... How does the
situation devolve, and how do you handle it?

302
00:37:43,887 --> 00:37:45,427
He just disappeared?

303
00:38:04,407 --> 00:38:05,407
<i>To Cuba, yeah.</i>

304
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:09,040
<i>And then Ecuador. Yeah.</i>

305
00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:29,353
While he was in the plane?

306
00:38:57,877 --> 00:38:58,997
<i>Why not?</i>

307
00:39:36,583 --> 00:39:38,793
Did Obama get on a phone with you?

308
00:39:46,009 --> 00:39:50,962
Uh, let me ask you, I'm sure you
must have... As an ex-KGB, uh, agent...

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you must have hated what Snowden
did with every fiber of your being.

310
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<i>Right.</i>

311
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Did you agree with what he did?

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Did you think the, uh, National
Security Agency had gone too far

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in its eavesdropping?

314
00:40:59,415 --> 00:41:01,165
But he should not have whistled?

315
00:41:02,752 --> 00:41:06,829
So, he's saying that he
should not have whistle-blown,

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00:41:06,839 --> 00:41:11,042
and he should've resigned,
in principle, on the principle,

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like Mr. Putin did
when he resigned from the KGB?

318
00:41:30,113 --> 00:41:33,773
Okay. So, uh, you do agree
that the NSA went too far?

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And how do you feel about Russian
intelligence activities in their surveillance?

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<i>In a scene in the movie, we show</i>

321
00:42:10,153 --> 00:42:13,104
<i>where Snowden discusses the heat map.</i>

322
00:42:13,114 --> 00:42:17,025
Okay, so this is data collection
for the month of March,

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worldwide, e-mails and Skype calls.

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So France, 70 million.

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00:42:21,456 --> 00:42:23,823
Germany, 500 million.

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Brazil, two billion.

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Inside the US,

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3.1 billion e-mails and calls.

329
00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:34,377
That's not including
any of the telecom company data.

330
00:42:34,387 --> 00:42:36,502
Okay, so what's the collection of Russia?

331
00:42:36,512 --> 00:42:38,963
Russia is...

332
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:40,339
1.5 billion.

333
00:42:40,349 --> 00:42:43,009
Wait. So we're collecting
twice as much in the US

334
00:42:43,019 --> 00:42:44,844
- as we are in Russia?
- Yeah, I figured it was a lot...

335
00:42:44,854 --> 00:42:47,154
<i>- Russia is number two,
- US is number one.</i>

336
00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:06,282
Well, you must be spying on the
US, because if the US is spying on you,

337
00:43:06,292 --> 00:43:09,302
I mean, the Americans are gonna
say, I'm sure you're spying on us.

338
00:43:15,968 --> 00:43:20,046
<i>The Snowden affair in terms
of the US-Russia relationship</i>

339
00:43:20,056 --> 00:43:22,256
<i>seemed to turn, was a big deal</i>

340
00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:25,384
<i>for the neoconservative movement in the US.</i>

341
00:43:25,394 --> 00:43:28,105
<i>And the neocons seemed to
focus in on Russia once again.</i>

342
00:43:28,115 --> 00:43:32,225
<i>It wasn't too long afterward
that the Ukraine issue came up.</i>

343
00:43:32,235 --> 00:43:35,603
<i>I think I would consider
Snowden a pawn in a game.</i>

344
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:40,083
<i>Unless they wanted him
here, in Moscow, to embarrass.</i>

345
00:43:46,124 --> 00:43:48,254
Really?

346
00:44:09,105 --> 00:44:11,347
Very strong.

347
00:44:11,357 --> 00:44:12,682
<i>Well, one thing is clear.</i>

348
00:44:12,692 --> 00:44:15,434
<i>I think the only place in
the world where he's... safe</i>

349
00:44:15,444 --> 00:44:18,244
<i>is here, in Russia.</i>

350
00:44:22,577 --> 00:44:24,152
And there's a great irony in this.

351
00:44:24,162 --> 00:44:25,403
<i>In the old days,</i>

352
00:44:25,413 --> 00:44:29,031
<i>the Russian defectors would go
to the United States.</i>

353
00:44:29,041 --> 00:44:31,001
<i>This is a reversal.</i>

354
00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:37,433
<i>- No, I'm not saying that.
- I'm saying it's ironic.</i>

355
00:45:30,353 --> 00:45:31,934
<i>So, uh, this is your dacha.</i>

356
00:45:31,944 --> 00:45:35,014
<i>Your ranch.</i>

357
00:45:35,024 --> 00:45:39,034
Official state residence.
And you come here on weekends?

358
00:45:45,117 --> 00:45:48,037
So it's about 25 minutes,
20 minutes from Moscow.

359
00:45:52,541 --> 00:45:58,329
His adoption of orthodox religion
back into the Russian system,

360
00:45:58,339 --> 00:45:59,839
he's been a proponent of that.

361
00:46:02,969 --> 00:46:06,809
I understand, but there's been
a renaissance of...

362
00:46:23,322 --> 00:46:23,983
Right.

363
00:46:23,993 --> 00:46:26,274
When he comes here, does...

364
00:46:26,284 --> 00:46:29,235
where does he, uh, sit if he sits?

365
00:46:29,245 --> 00:46:31,785
Are there any chairs?
Does he sit down?

366
00:46:35,835 --> 00:46:37,243
<i>So how do you...?</i>

367
00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:39,245
The mass is while you stand.

368
00:46:39,255 --> 00:46:40,625
Aha.

369
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:43,590
I see.

370
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:51,350
People don't pray in... uh,
kneeling. They pray standing.

371
00:46:58,274 --> 00:47:01,074
This weekend, you have guests
coming over for the weekend?

372
00:47:08,117 --> 00:47:11,027
The two daughters are married,
and they bring their husbands,

373
00:47:11,037 --> 00:47:13,287
so you meet your
son-in-laws on the weekend?

374
00:47:16,792 --> 00:47:20,286
So are you a grandfather yet?

375
00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:23,080
Do you like your grandchildren?

376
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:26,510
So, are you a good grandfather?
Do you play with them in the garden?

377
00:47:29,972 --> 00:47:33,341
Very seldom.
Do you...

378
00:47:33,351 --> 00:47:35,261
Do the son-in-laws argue with you?

379
00:47:35,271 --> 00:47:39,229
They have different opinions?
They give you sort of gossip?

380
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,320
Daughters too?

381
00:47:51,994 --> 00:47:53,084
Yeah. Yeah.

382
00:47:57,583 --> 00:47:58,824
Yeah, that's amazing.

383
00:47:58,834 --> 00:48:00,534
You're a very lucky man.

384
00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:02,004
Two good children.

385
00:48:06,467 --> 00:48:08,334
Yeah.

386
00:48:08,344 --> 00:48:11,224
Good. So...

387
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,190
That's a beauty.
What is this, a race horse?

388
00:48:30,449 --> 00:48:31,949
Looks like a thoroughbred.

389
00:48:32,284 --> 00:48:34,454
Yeah?

390
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,710
He rides them all?

391
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:50,430
Well, if they throw you,
these are big horses.

392
00:48:56,934 --> 00:49:00,052
Yeah.
That's dangerous.

393
00:49:00,062 --> 00:49:02,563
I must've fallen off five, six times.

394
00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:05,105
And here's a tiny one.

395
00:49:15,911 --> 00:49:18,121
You have the largest
Muslim population in Europe.

396
00:49:22,751 --> 00:49:25,161
You've mentioned in the past
the, uh, white, uh,

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00:49:25,171 --> 00:49:27,881
the Russian ethnic population
is diminishing.

398
00:49:31,469 --> 00:49:33,549
Right.

399
00:51:09,024 --> 00:51:12,735
You've said several times
in the last two days, you know,

400
00:51:12,745 --> 00:51:15,020
that Russia is a democracy.

401
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:17,022
Your critics in America,
and there are many,

402
00:51:17,032 --> 00:51:19,193
would say that Russia is not a democracy,

403
00:51:19,203 --> 00:51:23,961
Russia is a traditional
authoritarian state...

404
00:51:24,707 --> 00:51:27,116
and that, uh, there is, uh...

405
00:51:27,126 --> 00:51:29,702
the parliament does not decide,

406
00:51:29,712 --> 00:51:31,123
does not make major decisions.

407
00:51:31,133 --> 00:51:36,584
There's limited access to, uh,
television for the opposition parties,

408
00:51:36,594 --> 00:51:40,296
that... your party
dominates the media.

409
00:51:40,306 --> 00:51:42,047
The registration process is difficult

410
00:51:42,057 --> 00:51:45,217
for these opposition parties,

411
00:51:45,227 --> 00:51:48,387
that there's a lack
of judicial independence,

412
00:51:48,397 --> 00:51:51,640
although that's an old problem
in Russia, I gather.

413
00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:54,393
These are the criticisms
that are often launched at you.

414
00:51:54,403 --> 00:51:58,283
I'd love you to take a chance
here and respond to that.

415
00:54:54,249 --> 00:54:57,089
What do you think of these
candidates in the US election?

416
00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:06,752
No, we want to hear what you think.

417
00:55:06,762 --> 00:55:09,102
This is a personal thing, uh, characters.

418
00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:32,454
<i>- How about Bernie Sanders?
- Would you like that?</i>

419
00:56:05,821 --> 00:56:08,355
Yeah. I get it.

420
00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:10,190
But you didn't answer
my question about Sanders.

421
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,280
Do you like him?

422
00:56:13,912 --> 00:56:15,872
Aah!

423
00:56:21,878 --> 00:56:22,878
Yeah.

424
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:58,030
But you do realize how powerful
your answer could be

425
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,710
if you said suddenly
that you prefer X candidate...

426
00:57:03,045 --> 00:57:04,745
he would go like that tomorrow.

427
00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:08,081
And if you say you didn't like
Trump or something, right?

428
00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:09,374
What would happen?
He'd win, right?

429
00:57:09,384 --> 00:57:12,224
You have that amount of power in the US.

430
00:57:28,570 --> 00:57:31,897
Thank you, sir.
We'll see you tomorrow.

431
00:57:31,907 --> 00:57:33,107
Talk about some heavier stuff.

432
00:57:35,035 --> 00:57:36,535
Thank you, sir.

433
00:57:41,208 --> 00:57:42,788
- Yes. Thanks very much.
- Bye-bye.