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[narrator] What is
the power of makeup?

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For me... it's everything.

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[uplifting music]

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[Vincent] It's magic.

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It's to fool your
audience into believing

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that what they're
seeing is 100% reality.

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[Alec] The power of makeup is
the power of transformation.

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If you're the wearer of the
makeup, it sort of
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to be a different character.

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[Greg] Makeup effects
and makeup allows actors

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to tap into different
parts of their personality.

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[Ve] Whether it's
a zombie, or a princess,

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or a Frankenstein monster,

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it's what enables
an actor to actually emote.

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[dramatic music]

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[John] Want to
hear something scary?

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Makeup and hair are the most
dangerous people on a set

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because they get the actors
first thing in the morning

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and they're right in their face.

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I've seen hairdressers and
makeup people just fuck movies.

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So you always want to
be on their good side.

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[Leonard] Good makeup helps
create a good character.

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Characters are what make
a movie interesting.

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If the makeup is ineffectual,

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it's going to destroy
the whole movie.

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[Michael] It has the power
to heal, it has the power
to inspire,

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and it also inspires
and creates imagination

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to be able to tell stories.

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[narrator] Makeup
has given artists

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and filmmakers
incredible freedom.

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But all that innovation and
invention can be traced back
to a moment in time

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when one film proved
nothing was impossible.

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[dramatic music]

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[narrator] Makeup
in film has existed

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since the turn of
the 20th century.

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Early artists were actors who
experimented on themselves.

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The successful ones
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to work on other actors.

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One of the first breakout
artists was Cecil Holland.

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An early attempt at
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was Holland's work
on The Lost World.

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To me, Cecil Holland was
the genesis of it all,
the beginning of,

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maybe even the first
makeup effects person.

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[narrator] Meanwhile,
at Universal Studios,

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the horror genre
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and with it rose
the fame of actor

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and self-taught makeup
artist, Lon Chaney Sr.

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[Guillermo] To me,
it all begins with him.

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There is a bridge
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and movie makeup.

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He starts it.

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He did makeups that no one
else had ever attempted

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and some of them became,
you know, legendary.

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[Vincent] Watching the original
Hunchback with Lon Chaney,

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that was one of those
moments where I thought that's,

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that is something that
I would love to try and emulate.

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[Bill] My favorite
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was The Phantom of the Opera.

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I thought that was
just the most amazing

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transformation I've ever seen.

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[narrator] Known as
the man of 1,000 faces,

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Chaney propelled the horror
genre to new heights.

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But his untimely death
in 1930 created a void

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in the makeup world
that was quickly filled

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by another actor turned
makeup artist, Jack Pierce.

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If he had done nothing but
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Jack Pierce would have
a place in, uh, you know,
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of heroes and legends.

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That makeup is so indelible,
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it's been so much imitated.

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There have been so many
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but he did it.

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As he did The Wolf Man,
another extraordinary piece

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of makeup that didn't have
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just a lot of hard work
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[Guillermo] Whether
he's enhancing the mouth
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in The Man Who Laughs,
or doing The Monkey Talks,

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which is a beautiful precedent
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in a way, the key comes from
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And saying, "Okay,
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what do I need to take down?"

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I remember seeing the episode
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and Jack Pierce had come out,
and he's there with
the bolt and all.

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It was the first time
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and it was similar to what
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you know, kind of like
this scrappy guy.

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It's wonderful to see you.

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The best makeup
man in the world.

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-Thank you.
-I owe him a lot.

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First person that I idolized
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'cause he's
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The Wolf Man, The Mummy.
Classic universal horror films.

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And those were the films
that really inspired me
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[narrator] As time progressed,

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makeup became more sophisticated

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but the quality of films
began to deteriorate.

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In the years following World War
II, science fiction became
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and there were
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like The Day
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and The Thing from
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Very few serious filmmakers
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science fiction,
and there were a couple
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to make some expensive
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that didn't really
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After a little while,
those films got cheaper,

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and tackier, and really became
B-movies and kiddie fodder.

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[announcer] Nobody will
believe theInvasion of
the Saucer Men.

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[dramatic music]

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[light bell music]

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[narrator] In the early 1960s,

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20th Century Fox producer, Arthur P. Jacobs, was searching

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for a project that would astound
audiences around the globe.

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Planète des singes,
orMonkey Planet,

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was originally published
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Natalie Trundy who was then
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had read the book
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[narrator] By June of 1964,

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the book had been
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and published in America.

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[Scott] What a book, right?
This whole thing where

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apes have taken over society

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and humans have devolved into
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of life than the apes,
was sort of ahead of its time.

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[narrator] Richard Zanuck,
the head of 20th Century Fox,

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helps Arthur Jacobs obtain
the option for Boulle's novel.

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Jacobs hires Rod Serling
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to write a treatment
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in hopes of turning it
into a full motion
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[man] I was a man,
a man from Earth,

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[voiceover] a reasoning
creature who made it a habit

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to discover
a logical explanation

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and not a beast hunted down
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[Richard] Rod Serling,
he was a genius.

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They didn't give you the script.

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You sat down in a meeting...

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and they'd start to
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So by the time they were done,

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they really had you hooked.

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Planet of the Apesis just

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the biggest sheet cake version

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of a Twilight Zone
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[narrator] Serling was busy
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He later claimed to have
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[voiceover] Somewhere
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there has to be
something better than man.

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Rod Serling highlighted
a lot of the, uh, contradictions

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of our society, in many cases,
uh, the nihilism of our society.

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And the original script
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from the final version
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which was then worked
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[narrator] Zanuck and the
Fox board calculate a budget

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of $2 million, a risky bet

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given Fox's financial
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The problem, I think,
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that it was such new
groundbreaking motion
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the studio was very,
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And the only one that really
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was Richard Zanuck.

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20th Century Fox was not
in good shape financially.

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It's been blamed on Cleopatra
and apparently unfairly blamed
on Cleopatrain many cases.

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They used it as
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for some bad decision making.

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[narrator] The screenplay
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in the hands of one of
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Charlton Heston.

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I think that this film
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had, uh, Charlton not
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[Leonard] He was just the right
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His physicality was ideal

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and he had the gravitas
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[Lou] It was his project.

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He helped greenlight it,
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[narrator] Charlton
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director, Franklin J. Schaffner,

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who he was currently working
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commitments from
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and Edward G. Robinson
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to portray
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Jacobs convinced Fox to
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[Tom] Ben Nye was
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at 20th Century Fox, and he
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but he agreed to
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Good evening, Mr. Thomas.

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Everything fine, I hope.

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Considering I've been kept
in a cage for six weeks,
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[Joe] Prior to this, when you
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it was either played by
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But the approach here was
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that these ape characters
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and so there needed to be
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When you see, uh, original ones
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[Alessandro] Even though
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to what the makeup
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the scene was effective.

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No one was laughing,
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and the project was, uh,
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as something that could
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with an audience.

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[Tom] But Ben Nye
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rather than take on
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[narrator] Though the screen
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to portray talking simians
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it would take nothing
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to getPlanet of the Apes
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[narrator] John Chambers was
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in the South Side of Chicago.

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[Tom] John Chambers was the son
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They grew up in a very
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where John found it necessary
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and his younger
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[narrator] During World War II,
Chambers trained as
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but his artistry led him to
a career creating facial
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for wounded
servicemen at the VA.

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But it's important that he comes
from knowing the human face.

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It's important that he is
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[narrator] Infatuated with
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Chambers wrote a letter
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asking for a job in
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So he drives to Hollywood

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and then finds out that his
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the day that he left Chicago.

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[narrator] Chambers quickly
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and was sought after for many
of the most popular
television shows of his day.

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Johnny was outrageously unique.

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There was nobody like him.

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He was jovial,
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all of a sudden
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[Fred] He was stern in a way
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because when
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it was always something, "Wow,
this guy's got some cashews."

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[Michael] He had almost
a virtual monopoly

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on most of the prosthetic
work that was happening
in Hollywood.

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They needed something
that was in foam latex,

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they went to John.

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[narrator] From
his garage studio,

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Chambers created some of
the most iconic makeups

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of the 1960s.

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He was a teacher, probably
more than anything else.

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He thoroughly and totally
enjoyed what he did.

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John made a tremendous impact
on a whole lot of people

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but none more than me.

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[soft instrumental music]

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[narrator] Tom Burman was born on Thanksgiving Day, 1940,

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at Santa Monica
General Hospital.

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His father, Ellis,
met his mother, Dorothy,

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while attending
the Chicago Art Institute.

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After sculpting bronzes
of prominent Nebraskans,

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Ellis was commissioned to create several monument statues

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in Lincoln
and Omaha for the WPA.

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When my father
finished the monuments

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he was making in Nebraska,
he packed up the whole family

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and drove to Hollywood, where
he got a job at the studios

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working in the city department.

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And he ended up getting his
own room in the prop shop,

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where he specialized
in latex, plastic,

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breakaways, and all
kinds of neat stuff.

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Now, your father, Ellis Sr.,
I mean, he was like a pioneer

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-in making rubber pieces, right?
-Well, he did.

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He ran the actual
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at Universal Studio
for The Wolf Man.

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My dad became personal friends

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with some of the big Hollywood
actors at Universal back then,

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like Claude Rains, Abbott and
Costello, and Lon Chaney Jr.

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And sometimes they would come
and have a drink at our house.

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I didn't pay much attention
to that, I was too young.

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But one day he
takes me to the set,

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and there was a makeup man
on the set who called me
over to him,

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and he put a little cut,
a little makeup cut on my arm,
which is pretty cool.

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And, um, he said,
"What are you doing here?"

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And I said, "I'm with my dad."

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And he looked at
my dad and he said, "Wow."

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He said, "If you're half
as talented as he is,

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someday you should think about
becoming a makeup artist."

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His name was Jack Pierce.

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[light violin music]

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[narrator] After a number
of years at Universal,

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Ellis opened his own prop shop.

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Growing up in my family,
we all worked for my father,

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just like a lot of the big
makeup families worked together.

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[narrator] Hollywood's makeup
industry had become
a family-dominated business,

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with names like Don,
Philips, and Westmore.

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My father, who was
the oldest, Monty Sr.

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um, was Rudolph Valentino's
personal makeup artist.

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Perc became the head
of Warner Brothers,

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Ern became the head of RKO,

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Bud took over Universal,

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Wally took over Paramount.

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Frank never really
took over a studio,

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but he was very close
with Cecil B. DeMille

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and did The Ten Commandments.

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There was a wonderful story
about the, the makeup family

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of the Westmore
brothers in Hollywood.

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So, I contacted
the house of Westmore.

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I was able to talk
to Perc Westmore,

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said, "Why don't you come over?"

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And for the next three,
four, five months,

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I was sitting as a subject.

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My father called me at work.

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He told me that he was
working at Don Paul Studios

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and he had a job sculpting
up a "King Kong" gorilla.

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And come to find out, John
Chambers was in partnership

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with Don Paul's.

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While I was there, I found out
that there was a, um,
an apprenticeship opening

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at 20th Century Fox and, uh,
John said, "I'll call for you."

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And he did. He got me
an appointment with Ben Nye,

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the department head of makeup.

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I went in to see him, nice man,

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and he gave me some
really lousy news.

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He told me there are over
90 applicants for the job

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and one of them was his own son.

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And I thought, "Oh, God,"
here I was, this close.

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And I went home
and I was so disheartened,

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and, and, um, I didn't think
I'd ever get into makeup.

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And that night
I got a telephone call.

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It's Ben Nye and he says,

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"You want to come
in tomorrow morning

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and start your apprenticeship."

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Six months later,
I'm in Ben Nye's office,

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cleaning up his makeup station,
which I often did,

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and Ben comes in with
Richard Hamilton,

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who was their assistant
department head,

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and Dick Smith, their lab man.

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And they looked very forlorn.

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And Ben Nye is saying, "I didn't
think they were going to
go through with this project."

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And Dick is saying, "We did
everything they wanted,
didn't we, Ben?"

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And Richard saying,
"No, they don't look good

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and they're,
and they're too stiff.

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And, uh, they want to bring
in Bud Westmore."

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And he said,
"Because he did the movie

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The List of Adrian Messenger."

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Now my ears are really perked up

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because I knew that
John did that work.

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I had seen the photographs
at his house.

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I finally just kind of spoke up

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and I said,
"John Chambers did it."

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So Ben Nye says,
"We'll give him a call,

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see if he'd like to come in
and pick up a script."

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So I called him and John told
me, "So I'm busy right now.

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I'm making Spock's
ears for Star Trek.

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And I said, "Well,
they want Bud Westmore."

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And I know he didn't like him.

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He goes, [growls], he growls.

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They wanted Bud Westmore,

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from what I had
heard from Tommy.

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And he was listening just as
a new apprentice, apprentice.

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And he's the one that was
responsible for telling them

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to get me, I was available.

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The following day, he drives up,

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pulls up with his little Buick,
gets out of the car.

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He's waving at me as I'm coming
out of the makeup department.

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And he says,
"It's you and me, Tommy."

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And he holds out this
script and I read the title.

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Planet of the Apes.

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[narrator] In the heart of
20th Century Fox Studios

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was the makeup lab,
where John Chambers

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and Tom Burman were tasked
with creating the simians

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forPlanet of the Apes.

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So, our very first day,
John and I were standing

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in the lab, which was 33 years
old and pretty dingy place,

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but in the middle of the room
there was this, uh, two foot by
four foot marble top table.

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And we were making lists
of things he needed.

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So then John turns around, looks
at me and he said,

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"Tommy...
Let's clean this shithouse out."

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I started going through all the
boxes, through the shelves,
and underneath the tables,

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and I started pulling
out all this stuff.

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And you could see at first,
John was kind of
being selective,

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"Oh, maybe we could use this."
And then after a while,
I see him overwhelmed.

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He goes, "You know what? Throw
it all out. Get rid of it."

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I literally cleaned out
33 years of old makeup stuff.

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It was loaded with
all personal objects

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and I needed a laboratory
to work, you know.

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[narrator] While Chambers
and Burman feverishly worked

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on the makeup designs, it came time to cast the actors

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who would populate
thePlanet of the Apes.

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[Lou] My agent said,
"I've got an interview

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for Planet of the Apes."

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Never heard of it before.

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Sounded like a B movie.

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So I went to 20th Century Fox.

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It was really just an interview
with Franklin Schaffner.

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We didn't even talk
about the movie.

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I went home.

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Hours later, my agent called

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and said, um...
"What did you tell him?"

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And I said, "What do
you mean? What...

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Is he mad at me?

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What--" You know.

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And she said,
"No, you got the film."

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I got the film,
I didn't audition.

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[Alessandro] With an actor
like Kim Hunter,

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who had an Academy Award and was
very distinguished actor,

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Roddy McDowall as well,

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asking them to be
buried behind makeup

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was something of great concern
to them in the beginning.

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When the town heard that
there was going to be

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a major motion picture
called Planet of the Apes,

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they were interested.

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And then when they heard
that Charlton Heston

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was going to be in it,
they sat up.

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Planet of the Apes
with Charlton Heston?

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This must be quite a film.

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But when they heard Roddy
McDowall was going to be in it,

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everyone was really impressed.

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It gave the film class.

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[narrator] As the cast
began to take shape,

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the producers turned back
to the 1966 test reel

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for their first choice
to play Dr. Zaius.

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[Tom] Somebody knocked on
the door, so I opened the door
and it's Edward G. Robinson.

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He tells Johnny, he says,
"Well, I have a goatee

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and a mustache,
and I won't shave that off.

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And I'm not going to
wear that appliance.

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I'm claustrophobic,
I can't wear it all day."

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And John goes,
"Oh, yeah, okay, Eddie.

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Oh, yeah, okay, yeah,
that's good, yeah.

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Well, we'll work on that."
And so, "Okay, thank you, John."

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And he leaves and John goes,
"He's out of the picture."

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[laughs] I thought, "Wow, what
power this makeup artist has."

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John Chambers was a brilliant
artist, so talented.

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But he had one hell of a temper.

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My eloquence in
adjectives go pretty far.

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Let me ask you about Chambers.

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Was he always
two fisted and rough, or?

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He was a real tough character.
He was a--

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For instance,
on Planet of the Apes,

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Arthur Jacobson
and Mort Abrahams would come by,

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and they were going
to, uh, see our progress.

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John was doing mock-ups
on their heads in clay,

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and painting them,
and putting hair on them.

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And, uh, I asked him if he--
If it would be okay

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if I sculpted a gorilla,
and he said, "Yeah, Tommy,

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you do it in the
back room back there

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where nobody's going to see it."

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'Cause I didn't know
what I was doing.

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And so I was sculpting
this gorilla,

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and Arthur Jacobson
and Mort Abrahams came by,

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and they said, "Is John here?"
And I ran up,
I was an apprentice,

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and I brought John back,
and they were looking

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at his sculptures of
mock-ups he did.

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And they were saying,
"You know, difficulty is,

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we're going to have to
take one of these faces

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and put it on
a really top actress.

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I don't think anybody's
going to want to wear this."

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Mort Abrahams walks in the back
room and he sees this gorilla.

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Now the gorilla I had
sculpted was not very good

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but it was kind of humanoid...
humanoid ape.

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And he comes back, and he looks
at this, and he says,

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-"Arthur, come out in here
and take a look at this."
-Oh, my God.

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-And John looks at me and I knew
[gasps], you know. Oh, boy.
-[laughs]

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-'Cause he's Irish
and he just turned kind of red.
-Yeah, red.

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And so, they said, "John, come
out here, take a look at this.
Take a look, what is this?"

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He said, "Don't worry about--
that's a background mask
and we're working on it.

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It's not even close to being
ready. Come on back here."

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"No, John, what we
like about this is

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it's kind of like
an evolutionary ape.

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It's a little more human."

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And so I'm feeling pride
that they're enjoying it,

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but I look beyond that and
I see John just turning red.

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He's going purple, I mean.

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And they said, "Well, next
week we'd like to come back

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and take a look
at your progress.

469
00:23:24,541 --> 00:23:27,250
But give it some of that,
a little bit of that."

470
00:23:27,291 --> 00:23:28,750
And John's, "Okay, yeah, yeah.

471
00:23:28,791 --> 00:23:31,833
I'll do that, yeah,
okay, uh-huh, yeah."

472
00:23:31,875 --> 00:23:36,083
So, they walk out the door
and he goes, "Huh, huh?

473
00:23:36,125 --> 00:23:38,875
You and your big
greasy fucking thumb."

474
00:23:38,916 --> 00:23:41,500
-[laughs]
-He said, "You know
what you are?"

475
00:23:41,541 --> 00:23:43,958
He said, "You're
a fucking lunch bucket.

476
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,541
You're a lunch bucket.
You're going to have
that lunch bucket glued

477
00:23:46,583 --> 00:23:48,500
to your hand all your life."

478
00:23:48,541 --> 00:23:51,208
-Oh, my God.
-He walks back,
picks up the gorilla,

479
00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:52,958
smashes it on the floor.

480
00:23:55,208 --> 00:23:57,458
And he says, "Get out, get out!"

481
00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:00,583
For three days he'd come
up the makeup department,

482
00:24:00,625 --> 00:24:02,875
he would check to see
what I was doing.

483
00:24:02,916 --> 00:24:06,375
He wanted to catch me
doing something.
He was still burning inside.

484
00:24:06,416 --> 00:24:09,666
-He was trying to find
something I was--
-I'm quarter Irish, so I know.

485
00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:12,583
Yeah, so I kind of hid out
from him for the most part.

486
00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:16,500
One day, I'm eating my lunch
and he catches me. "You're
eating your lunch early."

487
00:24:16,541 --> 00:24:18,791
I said, "Well, Ben Nye told
me to go to lunch early

488
00:24:18,833 --> 00:24:21,166
because I came in early."
He said, "Yeah?"

489
00:24:21,208 --> 00:24:24,125
And I had drawn a picture of
myself crucified on the wall.

490
00:24:24,166 --> 00:24:27,916
And I had a little caption
that said, "I can laugh
when things aren't funny."

491
00:24:27,958 --> 00:24:31,583
He took a look at that picture
and he goes, just. [laughs]

492
00:24:31,625 --> 00:24:34,708
And he laughs and so hard,
it's like a release for him.

493
00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:36,541
The tears are running
down his face.

494
00:24:36,583 --> 00:24:39,750
He laughed, he goes, "Okay,
okay. Get back in the lab."

495
00:24:39,791 --> 00:24:41,541
And we never spoke
about it again.

496
00:24:41,583 --> 00:24:43,083
-Again.
-Never again.

497
00:24:43,125 --> 00:24:44,583
[eerie music]

498
00:24:46,291 --> 00:24:48,500
[narrator] With Edward
G. Robinson out,

499
00:24:48,541 --> 00:24:51,458
the role of the orangutan,
the protector of the faith,

500
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:54,208
went to classically
trained Shakespearean actor,

501
00:24:54,250 --> 00:24:56,000
Maurice Evans.

502
00:24:56,041 --> 00:24:59,041
Maurice was the actors'
actor, you know?

503
00:24:59,083 --> 00:25:02,541
He reeked of authority.

504
00:25:02,583 --> 00:25:06,083
Maurice Evans was probably
the only actor on record

505
00:25:06,125 --> 00:25:08,500
who enjoyed getting
into the makeup.

506
00:25:09,416 --> 00:25:12,291
[narrator] With a growing
number of chimpanzees,

507
00:25:12,333 --> 00:25:14,791
orangutans, and
gorillas being cast,

508
00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:17,750
an equally large crew of
artists would be needed

509
00:25:17,791 --> 00:25:19,416
to apply the makeups.

510
00:25:19,458 --> 00:25:22,708
I happened to have a knack
of looking at a person

511
00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:26,125
when I meet 'em,
and God gave me a gift.

512
00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:29,041
I can read 'em
right to the teeth.

513
00:25:29,083 --> 00:25:31,208
Good or bad, you know.

514
00:25:31,250 --> 00:25:33,833
And I don't let 'em
know which way,

515
00:25:33,875 --> 00:25:38,666
but I found out I could find
the people that had the salt.

516
00:25:38,708 --> 00:25:43,125
At that time, I was
working on the third season

517
00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,000
of Lost in Space.

518
00:25:45,041 --> 00:25:48,625
Then they took Ben Nye,
he took me off the show

519
00:25:48,666 --> 00:25:51,375
and then I started with John.

520
00:25:51,416 --> 00:25:54,333
I got the job on Apes because
I was, what you would call

521
00:25:54,375 --> 00:25:58,375
a staff, I guess, in those days
over at Fox. So they sent me up.

522
00:25:58,416 --> 00:26:01,833
And so, on the plane going up,
I was sitting with
a young lady and her mother.

523
00:26:01,875 --> 00:26:03,291
And we got to talking,

524
00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:05,833
and realized I had
made her up on a

525
00:26:05,875 --> 00:26:08,000
little test pilot
that they were going to do.

526
00:26:08,041 --> 00:26:10,166
Anyway, when we get up there,
she went to the department

527
00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:13,041
and said, "I'd like that
fellow to do my makeup."

528
00:26:13,083 --> 00:26:15,125
So I did her makeup
while I was up there.

529
00:26:15,166 --> 00:26:17,541
The girl was Linda Harrison.

530
00:26:18,708 --> 00:26:21,916
[Tom] John Chambers
designed the makeups

531
00:26:21,958 --> 00:26:25,041
to be like paint by numbers

532
00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:28,791
because he wanted to
maintain a continuity,

533
00:26:28,833 --> 00:26:31,291
a consistency of uniformity.

534
00:26:31,333 --> 00:26:34,375
He did not want makeup
artists coming in

535
00:26:34,416 --> 00:26:37,125
and putting their own
signature on the makeups.

536
00:26:37,166 --> 00:26:39,833
I took green young men

537
00:26:39,875 --> 00:26:43,958
that I saw a certain talent
in what they produced

538
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,541
in other parts of makeup,

539
00:26:46,583 --> 00:26:49,125
and I said, "This
guy's an artist."

540
00:26:49,166 --> 00:26:52,375
I'd never had any experience
working with prosthetics.

541
00:26:52,416 --> 00:26:54,083
Planet of the Apes
was the first one.

542
00:26:54,125 --> 00:26:56,458
Prosthetics was not my thing.

543
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,958
I had never done prosthetics.

544
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,041
[Maurice] We had two to three
weeks of rehearsal

545
00:27:03,083 --> 00:27:05,166
where we were putting
these appliances on.

546
00:27:06,125 --> 00:27:09,250
[Darrell] Well, we had a couple
of journeymen makeup artists

547
00:27:09,291 --> 00:27:12,791
in the trailers with us
who would go up and down,

548
00:27:12,833 --> 00:27:15,541
and give us pointers,
and tell us what to do,

549
00:27:15,583 --> 00:27:18,375
or what not to do,
or you're doing too much,

550
00:27:18,416 --> 00:27:19,875
or doing too little.

551
00:27:19,916 --> 00:27:23,416
[Maurice] It was kept as
simple as possible.

552
00:27:23,458 --> 00:27:28,583
We had a full face appliance
that had to be prepped,

553
00:27:28,625 --> 00:27:31,416
which meant we had to
clear out the eye area

554
00:27:31,458 --> 00:27:34,250
and the mouth area,
and we had to learn how

555
00:27:34,291 --> 00:27:36,750
to feather out
the edges on the piece.

556
00:27:37,875 --> 00:27:41,666
[John Chambers] All these people
that, that worked with me,

557
00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:45,500
that-- They made that
picture as it was.

558
00:27:45,541 --> 00:27:49,000
I had Tommy Burman,
he was apprentice.

559
00:27:49,041 --> 00:27:51,791
He was a man with his
two sons and a wife,

560
00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:56,666
and they were having a rough
time keeping bread on the table

561
00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:58,375
at that time,
when he was so young.

562
00:27:59,708 --> 00:28:02,625
[Tom] As an apprentice
makeup artist at Fox,

563
00:28:02,666 --> 00:28:04,708
they paid me $90 a week

564
00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:07,666
and I had no
complaints about that.

565
00:28:07,708 --> 00:28:13,625
But when they found out
that I was working seven
days a week, 16 hours a day,

566
00:28:13,666 --> 00:28:16,458
the amount that
I was contributing
to the making of these apes,

567
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:20,625
they decided to bump me
up to, uh, journeyman wages.

568
00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:24,333
I told him, "I'm going to
put you down as a lab man."

569
00:28:25,208 --> 00:28:30,041
You know, put him into
journeyman salary
and I carried him through it.

570
00:28:30,083 --> 00:28:33,541
He was one of, one of
the best people I'd chosen.

571
00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:37,333
Before that, I'd never
had $100 to my name.

572
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:41,875
Now I am well-paid, and
John and I are ready to go.

573
00:28:43,083 --> 00:28:45,666
[narrator] After years
of struggle, misfires,

574
00:28:45,708 --> 00:28:49,166
and challenges,Planet of
the Apes was finally ready

575
00:28:49,208 --> 00:28:50,416
to move into production.

576
00:28:50,458 --> 00:28:52,041
[dramatic swells]

577
00:28:52,083 --> 00:28:54,125
[film whirring]

578
00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:55,958
[crew chattering]

579
00:28:57,875 --> 00:29:00,000
[Dan] The studio didn't have
great faith in it,

580
00:29:00,041 --> 00:29:02,375
so they were really
wrenched down

581
00:29:02,416 --> 00:29:03,958
as far as the money is concerned

582
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,541
and as far as
the amount of days.

583
00:29:06,583 --> 00:29:10,541
[Lou] The first day
of our shoot, everyone
was very worried.

584
00:29:10,583 --> 00:29:13,458
You could hear all
the scuttlebutt and everything.

585
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:17,375
This has got to work
or we're all in trouble.

586
00:29:17,416 --> 00:29:21,416
We spent $6 million to
be the joke of the town.

587
00:29:22,416 --> 00:29:24,208
[Dan] Schaffner, to his credit,

588
00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:27,083
when people were coming
from all sides saying,

589
00:29:27,125 --> 00:29:30,041
"Well, why don't you drop
this scene and do it this way?

590
00:29:30,083 --> 00:29:32,000
It's cheaper and easier."

591
00:29:32,041 --> 00:29:33,000
He resisted.

592
00:29:34,125 --> 00:29:35,291
[John Chambers] I respected him.

593
00:29:35,333 --> 00:29:37,583
He came from television.

594
00:29:37,625 --> 00:29:39,875
My start was in television,

595
00:29:39,916 --> 00:29:42,500
and we talked the same language.

596
00:29:42,541 --> 00:29:47,166
I says, "What I need from
you is your authority

597
00:29:47,208 --> 00:29:51,125
to stop a shot and say
we have to take it over

598
00:29:51,166 --> 00:29:52,791
on account of something I saw."

599
00:29:52,833 --> 00:29:55,541
And I says, "Can I stop camera?"

600
00:29:55,583 --> 00:29:56,583
He said, "Yeah."

601
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,250
[Tom] Working in the lab,
it was a struggle every day

602
00:30:00,291 --> 00:30:02,541
to keep up with production.

603
00:30:02,583 --> 00:30:05,208
And we were working
around the clock.

604
00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:07,500
We couldn't have
worked any more hours.

605
00:30:07,541 --> 00:30:09,750
In those first couple months,
it was really tough.

606
00:30:10,791 --> 00:30:12,916
[John Chambers] The guys were
working hard, you know,

607
00:30:12,958 --> 00:30:15,166
and I came in at two at night,

608
00:30:15,208 --> 00:30:18,250
and I found the guy asleep
on the chair, you know.

609
00:30:18,291 --> 00:30:20,416
The chair, he was so fatigued.

610
00:30:20,458 --> 00:30:22,500
Oh, man, you know, we worked.

611
00:30:22,541 --> 00:30:26,250
Not just five days, but
Saturday and Sunday, you know.

612
00:30:26,291 --> 00:30:29,916
One time I asked,
"Am I going to get some help?"

613
00:30:29,958 --> 00:30:32,125
And they says, "Nope." I said,

614
00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:34,333
"Well, What do you want me
to do, put a broom up my rear

615
00:30:34,375 --> 00:30:36,083
and sweep the floors as well?"

616
00:30:37,041 --> 00:30:39,958
[Ken] John Chambers was on
location and he was leaving

617
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,500
to go back to the studio.

618
00:30:41,541 --> 00:30:44,041
And he knew how hard
I'd been working.

619
00:30:44,083 --> 00:30:47,625
And he said, you know, he says,
"You've been really
busting your butt.

620
00:30:47,666 --> 00:30:51,541
You take off tomorrow. You sleep
late, you just stay home."

621
00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:55,125
Four in the morning,
pounding on the door.

622
00:30:55,166 --> 00:30:57,833
"Get up and get dressed,
you're going on the set!"

623
00:30:58,708 --> 00:31:01,958
I said, "Well, John told me
I could have the day off."

624
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,083
"No, no, no.

625
00:31:03,125 --> 00:31:05,666
He's not here and we are."

626
00:31:06,916 --> 00:31:11,375
[Lou] Our call was 2:30 for
seven o'clock on the set.

627
00:31:11,416 --> 00:31:15,166
They stumbled,
and were slow, and everything,

628
00:31:15,208 --> 00:31:17,041
but it was in
the middle of the night.

629
00:31:17,083 --> 00:31:19,166
It was rough.

630
00:31:19,208 --> 00:31:20,375
[Darrell] We worked,
and worked, and worked

631
00:31:20,416 --> 00:31:22,125
to get those edges covered.

632
00:31:22,166 --> 00:31:24,541
And then we laid hair over 'em.

633
00:31:24,583 --> 00:31:28,875
We had to work with
straight human Asian hair,

634
00:31:28,916 --> 00:31:32,625
black, which is the hardest
thing to work with

635
00:31:32,666 --> 00:31:34,916
that I've ever found.

636
00:31:34,958 --> 00:31:37,625
[Lou] Tom spent a lot of
his day in the lab

637
00:31:37,666 --> 00:31:40,083
with Werner and Fern Langdon.

638
00:31:40,125 --> 00:31:43,916
And if it wasn't for them,
we wouldn't have makeup.

639
00:31:43,958 --> 00:31:45,833
I created an assembly line.

640
00:31:45,875 --> 00:31:48,666
I had 'em working through
the night, a shift.

641
00:31:48,708 --> 00:31:52,583
Putting rubber in the oven
eleven o'clock at night,

642
00:31:52,625 --> 00:31:54,250
taking it out in the morning.

643
00:31:54,291 --> 00:31:56,875
You know, no one ever
did this before, see?

644
00:31:56,916 --> 00:31:58,666
[Dan] I think on Roddy
McDowall at one time,

645
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:02,000
we were down to one mask
ahead the next day's work.

646
00:32:02,041 --> 00:32:03,708
If the running
the oven went bad,

647
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:05,666
which they do many times...

648
00:32:06,958 --> 00:32:09,166
the following day we're screwed.

649
00:32:09,208 --> 00:32:12,416
[Tom] Working the lab long
hours was bad enough,

650
00:32:12,458 --> 00:32:15,166
but then having to go to
the set and work there

651
00:32:15,208 --> 00:32:18,791
was completely exhausting.
But every day was a thrill.

652
00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:21,208
Getting up in the
morning was a thrill.
The whole day was a thrill

653
00:32:21,250 --> 00:32:23,666
because I knew I was working
on something special.

654
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:28,500
We had a lot of little problems

655
00:32:28,541 --> 00:32:31,416
that we resolved by
working together on it.

656
00:32:32,416 --> 00:32:34,625
It was great,
it was like a club.

657
00:32:35,541 --> 00:32:38,916
[Dan] People excelled,
absolutely excelled.

658
00:32:38,958 --> 00:32:40,250
Every time they turned around,

659
00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:43,083
it was another huge obstacle.

660
00:32:43,125 --> 00:32:46,875
Just this constant
push, push, push.

661
00:32:46,916 --> 00:32:49,583
Probably the greatest
effort I've ever seen

662
00:32:49,625 --> 00:32:51,208
in the motion picture industry.

663
00:32:52,208 --> 00:32:53,708
[Maurice] The actors had to eat.

664
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:56,500
The actors that were
in all of the makeup.

665
00:32:56,541 --> 00:33:00,208
One of the gorillas was
supposed to be driving a wagon.

666
00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:03,666
It looked fine but as
soon as he took the reins,

667
00:33:03,708 --> 00:33:06,208
and he snapped 'em,
and he yelled real loud,

668
00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,000
he opened his mouth real big,

669
00:33:08,041 --> 00:33:12,416
the whole front part of
the bottom piece broke loose.

670
00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:18,333
I look down in there
and I see peas. Like,
peas that you eat.

671
00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:23,875
[narrator] From that point on,
they served milkshakes at
lunch, anything with a straw.

672
00:33:24,958 --> 00:33:28,208
We were at the bottom
of the Colorado River

673
00:33:28,250 --> 00:33:30,875
and base camp was way up on top.

674
00:33:30,916 --> 00:33:33,000
And we moved everything
down with us

675
00:33:33,041 --> 00:33:35,458
and they forgot straws.

676
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:40,333
Well, that doesn't mean too
much to the average person

677
00:33:40,375 --> 00:33:44,416
but for Kim, Roddy,
Maurice, and me...

678
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:48,625
we couldn't, we couldn't drink.

679
00:33:48,666 --> 00:33:51,166
So, Heston says,
"You don't have any straws?

680
00:33:51,208 --> 00:33:52,666
Where are the straws?"

681
00:33:52,708 --> 00:33:54,583
"They're back at the base camp."

682
00:33:54,625 --> 00:33:59,250
He ran back to the base camp
and brought straws back for us.

683
00:33:59,291 --> 00:34:02,583
So, you know, that--
just to let you know

684
00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:06,375
what a, what a great
common guy he was.

685
00:34:07,375 --> 00:34:11,625
Kim Hunter was
the queen of the set. [chuckles]

686
00:34:11,666 --> 00:34:17,583
She was articulate and, like
Roddy, just a super actor.

687
00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:23,708
[Maurice] Maurice Evans,
who played an orangutan,
played chess,

688
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:29,666
and I played chess.
We found ourselves sitting
outside, Fox back lot,

689
00:34:29,708 --> 00:34:31,416
and the two of us were
looking at each other

690
00:34:31,458 --> 00:34:33,875
just like, this is
normal everyday thing.

691
00:34:34,833 --> 00:34:37,208
[Dan] I remember my
superior, Doc. Murman,

692
00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:38,833
he said, "Well,
we'll go to the dailies,

693
00:34:38,875 --> 00:34:41,083
we got to watch this
piece of junk again today,

694
00:34:41,125 --> 00:34:43,666
you know, 15 minutes of this."
He says--

695
00:34:43,708 --> 00:34:46,541
You know. I said,
"Well, don't underestimate

696
00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:48,500
what an ape can do,
you know?" [chuckles]

697
00:34:49,375 --> 00:34:51,083
[narrator] To ensure
the locations would be

698
00:34:51,125 --> 00:34:52,958
as groundbreaking
as the makeups,

699
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,125
production designer,
Bill Creber, created Ape City,

700
00:34:56,166 --> 00:34:59,375
shot on Fox Ranch
in Malibu Canyon.

701
00:34:59,416 --> 00:35:01,916
I always loved Ape City
because everything was rounded

702
00:35:01,958 --> 00:35:04,583
and had these soft
curves to them

703
00:35:04,625 --> 00:35:07,750
that, that looked primitive
but functional.

704
00:35:09,458 --> 00:35:11,916
[narrator] For the final
beach scene, filmed in Malibu,

705
00:35:11,958 --> 00:35:14,333
the makeups and heavy
costumes had to be worn

706
00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:16,916
in 100 degree heat.

707
00:35:16,958 --> 00:35:20,708
[Lou] I think it was, uh,
Charlton Heston's idea

708
00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:23,083
to helicopter us all in.

709
00:35:23,125 --> 00:35:27,375
So we all met at 20th Century
Fox, there's a helipad there,

710
00:35:27,416 --> 00:35:30,750
and we were helicoptered
to the actual set.

711
00:35:30,791 --> 00:35:33,333
Then we had our makeup started.

712
00:35:33,375 --> 00:35:36,000
[Tom] You knew they
weren't comfortable.
We tried to keep everybody

713
00:35:36,041 --> 00:35:38,458
as comfortable as we could,
but it wasn't easy.

714
00:35:40,041 --> 00:35:43,000
When we finally wrapped
Planet of the Apes,

715
00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:47,208
it was, I...
I guess it was bittersweet

716
00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:52,000
because, you know, you'd been--
I'd been so involved
for eight months

717
00:35:52,041 --> 00:35:53,875
without a day off.

718
00:35:53,916 --> 00:35:56,250
It totally consumed my life.

719
00:35:56,291 --> 00:36:00,375
All of a sudden, I didn't
have to get up at 3:15.

720
00:36:00,416 --> 00:36:02,708
I wouldn't be seeing all of
my friends that I worked with,

721
00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:05,250
and I'd made a lot of
friends on that show.

722
00:36:05,291 --> 00:36:07,250
And it was a very
strange feeling

723
00:36:07,291 --> 00:36:09,875
because I wanted to
continue doing that,

724
00:36:09,916 --> 00:36:11,458
continue doing just
what I was doing,

725
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:13,458
what I'd been doing
for eight months.

726
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:18,291
[Darrell] When they said,
"that's a wrap"
for the last time...

727
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:19,333
[laughs]

728
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:23,375
I left there,
I thought, "I don't ever want

729
00:36:23,416 --> 00:36:27,000
to do another appliance
as long as I live."

730
00:36:27,041 --> 00:36:31,000
[Maurice] Planet of the Apes
was a real team effort

731
00:36:31,041 --> 00:36:37,208
because all of us were brand
new at applying this amount

732
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:40,666
of appliance work
on a daily basis.

733
00:36:40,708 --> 00:36:45,666
But when you look at what is
going to end up on the screen,

734
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:51,916
the worst makeup job is
going to represent everybody.

735
00:36:52,875 --> 00:36:57,208
The best makeup job is also
going to represent everybody.

736
00:36:58,541 --> 00:37:00,125
[narrator] Filming of
Planet of the Apes wrapped

737
00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:02,875
on August 10th, 1967.

738
00:37:02,916 --> 00:37:05,375
It was now in the hands of
the post-production team,

739
00:37:05,416 --> 00:37:09,833
including Jerry Goldsmith,
who was composing
the iconic score.

740
00:37:09,875 --> 00:37:12,500
John told me, he said, "It's
going to have a rough screening.
You want to go and see it?"

741
00:37:12,541 --> 00:37:14,750
And I think Wes Don,
the other apprentice and I,

742
00:37:14,791 --> 00:37:16,583
"Yeah, let's go see it."

743
00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:18,750
I was devastated 'cause
I never saw a movie

744
00:37:18,791 --> 00:37:21,958
without color correction,
without music,

745
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,583
you know, with just temp music,
missing scenes.

746
00:37:24,625 --> 00:37:27,666
And I came back and John said,
"What do you think, Tommy? Eh?

747
00:37:27,708 --> 00:37:31,333
Eh? What do you think?" And I'm
terrified of telling him
I think it's one of

748
00:37:31,375 --> 00:37:33,541
the worst things I've ever seen.

749
00:37:33,583 --> 00:37:37,625
The actors looked great
but the rest of the movie
looked terrible.

750
00:37:37,666 --> 00:37:39,041
[narrator] Planet of
the Apes also required

751
00:37:39,083 --> 00:37:41,750
considerable ADR, or dubbing,

752
00:37:41,791 --> 00:37:45,000
due to the muffled voices
of the actors in makeup.

753
00:37:45,041 --> 00:37:48,000
[Lou] Doing the looping,
Franklin would give direction,

754
00:37:48,041 --> 00:37:51,541
and then he had a golf cup
and he'd putt.

755
00:37:51,583 --> 00:37:55,458
And then, "Okay,
go ahead, Lou." [laughs]

756
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:57,750
[Tom] So, Danny Striepeke
gives me a gorilla mask

757
00:37:57,791 --> 00:38:01,125
and tells me to take it
over to the scoring stage.

758
00:38:02,041 --> 00:38:05,291
When I get there, Jerry's in
the middle of scoring the film,

759
00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:06,833
and I was just blown away

760
00:38:06,875 --> 00:38:09,583
because I never heard
anything like it.

761
00:38:09,625 --> 00:38:12,041
And Jerry wanted to wear
the mask for inspiration

762
00:38:12,083 --> 00:38:14,125
while he conducted
his orchestra.

763
00:38:15,375 --> 00:38:18,083
It's a very unusual score.
I mean, that was another
thing about Jerry was

764
00:38:18,125 --> 00:38:23,208
that he loved to take chances.
And he would use orchestrations
and combinations of approaches

765
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:26,916
that ordinarily wouldn't
probably be considered
by most people.

766
00:38:26,958 --> 00:38:29,500
[uplifting music]

767
00:38:30,875 --> 00:38:32,875
[Dan] It all coalesced.

768
00:38:32,916 --> 00:38:34,625
That doesn't happen very often.

769
00:38:35,625 --> 00:38:38,333
To bring all those
divergent talents together

770
00:38:38,375 --> 00:38:42,041
into one, I call it
a column of creativity.

771
00:38:43,791 --> 00:38:45,541
[tense music]

772
00:38:45,583 --> 00:38:47,416
[narrator] Planet of
the Apes was completed

773
00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:52,416
near the end of 1967 and slated for a March 1968 release.

774
00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:57,208
[John Chambers] The biggest fear
we had was, will they laugh

775
00:38:57,250 --> 00:38:59,083
or accept the apes?

776
00:38:59,958 --> 00:39:02,125
But I thought if they laughed,

777
00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:04,333
this was going to
be a Mickey Mouse.

778
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,208
20th Century Fox had
a lot riding on this movie.

779
00:39:09,250 --> 00:39:11,375
And the rumor around the lot was

780
00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:13,458
that if this thing was a flop

781
00:39:14,458 --> 00:39:16,625
that they would be in
tremendous jeopardy.

782
00:39:17,916 --> 00:39:20,291
[Charlton] Hundreds of
technicians and
the largest number of

783
00:39:20,333 --> 00:39:21,875
makeup artists ever assembled

784
00:39:21,916 --> 00:39:24,875
assisted the producers,
the writers,

785
00:39:24,916 --> 00:39:26,583
the director, and the cast.

786
00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:30,958
[Ed] I didn't really think it
was going to be that big, no.

787
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,333
But I know it'd been tried
before and it was a flop.

788
00:39:34,375 --> 00:39:36,208
[announcer]Planet of the Apes,

789
00:39:36,250 --> 00:39:38,500
beyond your wildest dreams.

790
00:39:40,083 --> 00:39:42,458
I was fortunate enough
to get a ticket

791
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:46,291
from 20th Century Fox to go
see their premiere opening.

792
00:39:47,833 --> 00:39:50,208
I sat dead center
in the theater.

793
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:53,333
And once I saw that gorilla
come up in the corn field,

794
00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:56,291
that big zoom shot,
I went, "Oh, my God."

795
00:39:57,541 --> 00:40:00,041
The reveal of the gorillas

796
00:40:00,083 --> 00:40:03,583
is still absolutely
extraordinary sequence.

797
00:40:03,625 --> 00:40:06,666
You see the sticks,
and you see the people running,

798
00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:10,541
and the astronauts are like,
"What's up?" You know.

799
00:40:10,583 --> 00:40:12,000
[Richard] Starting to get
really into the movie

800
00:40:12,041 --> 00:40:16,708
and then as you realize,
wait a minute,

801
00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:21,000
I'm, I'm relating to these--
They're apes.

802
00:40:21,041 --> 00:40:23,250
You didn't even think about it.

803
00:40:23,291 --> 00:40:26,375
Charlton Heston looked more
animated than the apes did.

804
00:40:26,416 --> 00:40:31,125
Take your stinking paws off me,
you damn dirty ape!

805
00:40:32,041 --> 00:40:34,916
As soon as we saw the apes,

806
00:40:34,958 --> 00:40:38,375
I, I was-- I just
stared and stared,

807
00:40:38,416 --> 00:40:40,458
trying to figure out,
how did they do that?

808
00:40:42,375 --> 00:40:44,291
[Guillermo] It's hard
for people to imagine now

809
00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:48,333
what a massive
mind-destroying thing it was

810
00:40:48,375 --> 00:40:49,625
to see apes talk.

811
00:40:51,416 --> 00:40:54,458
It blew me away.
Because all of a sudden,
you're seeing chimpanzees,

812
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:58,083
and you're seeing orangutans,
and you're seeing gorillas.

813
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,083
[Scott] But I think what people
still to this day talk about

814
00:41:03,125 --> 00:41:06,625
is that amazing ending where
he's home, all the time.

815
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,291
That stunned people,
that shocking ending.

816
00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:12,208
And they play it
without any music.

817
00:41:14,833 --> 00:41:18,458
All you hear is the ocean
lapping up on the shore.

818
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:21,833
And he's just screaming
his guts out.

819
00:41:23,458 --> 00:41:25,833
And then you get a point of
view shot which pulls back

820
00:41:25,875 --> 00:41:28,458
and you see the Statue
of Liberty in ruins,

821
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,541
blown to pieces,
and rusted, and decrepit.

822
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:38,250
It's so devastating because
the symbol is not accidental.

823
00:41:39,250 --> 00:41:44,291
It's liberty, it's everything
that was good about the world,

824
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:47,083
that is destroyed.

825
00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:49,791
It said everything
I believed in.

826
00:41:49,833 --> 00:41:51,375
Um...

827
00:41:51,416 --> 00:41:53,166
We were living in an era...

828
00:41:54,208 --> 00:41:55,958
where we were still
afraid of the bomb.

829
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,708
Of course we are now, today,

830
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:02,208
but it was very prevalent then.

831
00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:06,875
And this script said,
you know, you idiots.

832
00:42:06,916 --> 00:42:11,916
You keep fooling around
and you're going to blow
everything up.

833
00:42:11,958 --> 00:42:13,125
[solemn music]

834
00:42:13,166 --> 00:42:15,458
[Tom] I was so moved and so, um,

835
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:18,083
proud to have
worked on this film.

836
00:42:18,125 --> 00:42:20,458
It was like
the highlight of my life

837
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:22,958
to be able to sit
and watch something that I had

838
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,208
given so much
of my, uh, time and effort,

839
00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:28,666
trying to make my part
the best I could.

840
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:42,291
[narrator] Just three months into what was already shaping up

841
00:42:42,333 --> 00:42:45,583
to be the most tumultuous
year of the 20th century,

842
00:42:45,625 --> 00:42:49,625
Planet of the Apes
premiered on March 27th, 1968.

843
00:42:50,666 --> 00:42:54,750
Everything about
a movie is who you are,

844
00:42:54,791 --> 00:42:59,833
how old you are, who you're
with the first time you see it.

845
00:42:59,875 --> 00:43:03,458
And when you ask people for
one of their favorite movies

846
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:07,958
or something, not only can
they tell you about the movie,

847
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,375
but you say,
"Where'd you see it?"

848
00:43:09,416 --> 00:43:10,916
They'll tell you the theater.

849
00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:16,458
My mom dropped us off,
it was a little
theater in Santa Ana.

850
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,208
Um, [clears throat] we ran out
to the car and said,

851
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:20,583
"We want to see it again!"

852
00:43:22,083 --> 00:43:23,500
[Maurice] When Planet of
the Apescame out,

853
00:43:23,541 --> 00:43:25,166
that's all people talked about.

854
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,166
[Darrell] It was pretty intense.

855
00:43:29,208 --> 00:43:32,125
I mean, they lined up
to see this movie.

856
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,875
[Lou] You really don't
know what to think

857
00:43:35,916 --> 00:43:39,208
of a film called
Planet of the Apes.

858
00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:45,208
You don't think it's going to
tackle such important things.

859
00:43:47,916 --> 00:43:50,458
[Leonard] It was the kind of
film everybody wanted to see,

860
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:52,208
that everybody buzzed about.

861
00:43:53,291 --> 00:43:55,291
It was a film that
made an impression.

862
00:43:56,416 --> 00:43:57,416
How could it not?

863
00:43:58,916 --> 00:44:02,166
There was something magical,
funny, whimsical, poignant.

864
00:44:04,083 --> 00:44:07,833
[Steve] The worldwide
nerve that it struck,

865
00:44:07,875 --> 00:44:10,500
besides the story,
which is incredible,

866
00:44:10,541 --> 00:44:12,458
and there's so many
subtexts to it as well,

867
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:14,416
the makeups were
pretty outstanding.

868
00:44:16,250 --> 00:44:18,541
[Michael] As everyone in this
industry is going to tell you,

869
00:44:18,583 --> 00:44:21,458
Planet of the Apeswas
a complete game changer

870
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:25,458
where the makeup was
such an integral part

871
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:29,041
of telling of that story.
If the makeup didn't work,
the film wouldn't have worked.

872
00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:30,375
It would've looked silly.

873
00:44:32,083 --> 00:44:34,041
In the makeup world,
it was revolutionary

874
00:44:34,083 --> 00:44:35,833
as sound coming to film.

875
00:44:38,416 --> 00:44:40,625
[Tom] Thinking back to day one

876
00:44:40,666 --> 00:44:42,708
when John Chambers
pulled up in his car,

877
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:44,583
waved at me getting out,

878
00:44:44,625 --> 00:44:47,000
and he said, "It's you and me,
Tommy," holding the script,

879
00:44:47,958 --> 00:44:50,166
and it was Planet of the Apes.

880
00:44:50,208 --> 00:44:54,666
And he says, "I'm going to
win the Academy Award."

881
00:44:55,833 --> 00:44:57,916
And I thought, "Come on,

882
00:44:57,958 --> 00:45:00,500
the Academy doesn't even
give awards for makeup."

883
00:45:01,791 --> 00:45:03,791
[presenter] This year, a board
of governors at the Academy

884
00:45:03,833 --> 00:45:06,375
has voted a special
award for makeup.

885
00:45:06,416 --> 00:45:08,333
Would John Chambers
please come out here

886
00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:09,958
and get his award?

887
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,041
[audience applauds]

888
00:45:19,541 --> 00:45:22,458
Mr. Chambers is responsible
for making monkeys

889
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:26,250
out of Roddy McDowall,
Maurice Evans, and Kim Hunter

890
00:45:26,291 --> 00:45:27,916
for Planet of the Apes.

891
00:45:27,958 --> 00:45:30,291
[audience applauds]

892
00:45:36,333 --> 00:45:38,416
And quite brilliantly, too.

893
00:45:39,625 --> 00:45:41,958
Will one of the friends
of Oscar back there

894
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,666
please bring
Mr. Chambers his award?

895
00:45:44,708 --> 00:45:46,583
-[John chuckles]
-[audience gasps]

896
00:45:46,625 --> 00:45:48,541
[audience applauds]

897
00:46:09,208 --> 00:46:11,458
That's what I call
a terrific makeup job.

898
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,375
[audience laughs]

899
00:46:16,166 --> 00:46:19,583
-How can I follow
an act like that?
-[audience laughs]

900
00:46:19,625 --> 00:46:23,041
May I thank the Board
of Governors for
this wonderful honor.

901
00:46:23,083 --> 00:46:26,208
May I thank Mr. Zanuck,
Mr. Jacobs,

902
00:46:27,083 --> 00:46:29,291
and Ben Nye and Dan Striepeke,

903
00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:31,875
who share this award
with me, I say.

904
00:46:31,916 --> 00:46:35,291
But most of all, all those
wonderful makeup men

905
00:46:35,333 --> 00:46:37,916
and hairstylists
that worked so hard

906
00:46:37,958 --> 00:46:39,958
to make this picture a success.

907
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,416
From all of us to all of you,

908
00:46:42,458 --> 00:46:44,583
God bless you
and thank you so much.

909
00:46:44,625 --> 00:46:46,333
[audience applauds]

910
00:46:46,375 --> 00:46:48,875
[slow jazz music]

911
00:46:48,916 --> 00:46:50,791
[Tom] John Chambers
wanted to acknowledge

912
00:46:50,833 --> 00:46:53,208
all the makeup artists
that worked for him,

913
00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:55,416
so he went to a jeweler,
and he got this jeweler

914
00:46:55,458 --> 00:46:58,375
to make these little gold
and silver ape heads.

915
00:46:58,416 --> 00:47:01,000
The gold ones went
to the makeup artists

916
00:47:01,041 --> 00:47:02,708
who did the principal actors.

917
00:47:03,958 --> 00:47:08,041
This was a gift
from, uh, John Chambers

918
00:47:08,083 --> 00:47:11,833
to all of us who started
and finished on the movie.

919
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,583
And I've treasured this
over the years.

920
00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:22,041
This was John's way of
sharing his Academy Award

921
00:47:22,083 --> 00:47:22,958
with all of us.

922
00:47:29,708 --> 00:47:32,833
[narrator] With
Planet of the Apes
a financial and critical hit,

923
00:47:32,875 --> 00:47:35,958
and having proved that
nothing was impossible,

924
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,166
a new generation of makeup
artists were inspired
to join the craft.

925
00:47:40,208 --> 00:47:42,166
[Rick] The first time
I even heard about
Planet of the Apes,

926
00:47:42,208 --> 00:47:45,583
actually, my parents had
a subscription to Life Magazine.

927
00:47:45,625 --> 00:47:47,708
They had a picture of
Maurice Evans in the makeup.

928
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:51,166
I turned the page and saw
this amazing orangutan,

929
00:47:51,208 --> 00:47:53,125
this guy, you know,
"What the hell is this?"

930
00:47:53,166 --> 00:47:54,333
It was so cool.

931
00:47:54,375 --> 00:47:57,125
[upbeat jazz music]

932
00:47:57,166 --> 00:47:59,541
[Tom Woodruff] I remember
learning about
Planet of the Apes

933
00:47:59,583 --> 00:48:01,625
in the Famous
Monsters of Filmland.

934
00:48:01,666 --> 00:48:03,791
It was just such
an amazing thing

935
00:48:03,833 --> 00:48:06,333
to see that process
in a, in a magazine,

936
00:48:06,375 --> 00:48:07,916
the step by step process.

937
00:48:09,041 --> 00:48:13,291
I knew then that I was thinking,
I have to get into that.

938
00:48:13,333 --> 00:48:15,791
And that's when I started
playing around.

939
00:48:15,833 --> 00:48:18,416
The first makeup was Planet
of the Apesmakeup, you know.

940
00:48:18,458 --> 00:48:20,583
It was so much fun doing.

941
00:48:20,625 --> 00:48:27,500
It has this ability to
intrigue every makeup artist.

942
00:48:27,541 --> 00:48:31,875
I don't know one makeup artist
that's been like, "Please,
Planet of the Apes."

943
00:48:31,916 --> 00:48:34,083
It just left this
permanent mark,

944
00:48:34,125 --> 00:48:37,125
uh, uh, that I really
wanted to be part of,

945
00:48:37,166 --> 00:48:40,625
and, and it was the only thing
that, that I ever wanted to do
since I was a kid.

946
00:48:42,333 --> 00:48:45,583
My first ever movie
was a Super 8

947
00:48:45,625 --> 00:48:48,333
with my Planet of
the Apes,uh, figures.

948
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,708
I think the studio, Fox
was really, uh, surprised,

949
00:48:54,750 --> 00:48:58,708
taken aback by just
how many people,

950
00:48:58,750 --> 00:49:00,708
uh, fell in love
with this movie.

951
00:49:01,916 --> 00:49:04,791
[Dan] Tremendous, tremendous
reception to the film.

952
00:49:05,666 --> 00:49:08,791
And particularly Fox,
when they started seeing
the coffers fill up.

953
00:49:08,833 --> 00:49:12,625
And the studio went, "Sequel,
sequel," you know, right away.

954
00:49:12,666 --> 00:49:15,791
The pressure on us was
to come up with something

955
00:49:15,833 --> 00:49:19,291
as groundbreaking,
and as unusual, and original,

956
00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:21,833
like the very first
Planet of the Apes.

957
00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:23,833
[dramatic music]

958
00:49:23,875 --> 00:49:25,916
[narrator] Production of
Beneath was difficult

959
00:49:25,958 --> 00:49:28,708
due to Charlton Heston only
being willing to work one week

960
00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:32,000
and Fox battling
producer Richard Zanuck,

961
00:49:32,041 --> 00:49:34,458
eventually leading to his
firing from the studio.

962
00:49:35,541 --> 00:49:38,333
[Tom] The script for Beneath
the Planet of the Apescalled

963
00:49:38,375 --> 00:49:42,375
for humans to live under
the surface of the Earth.

964
00:49:42,416 --> 00:49:44,333
These humans were mutations.

965
00:49:45,583 --> 00:49:49,625
[John] When John Chambers
set up his makeup lab,
I would go over there,

966
00:49:49,666 --> 00:49:55,500
and, and there-- originally
it was just John,
and Mr. Burman, and Verner.

967
00:49:55,541 --> 00:49:58,500
And I would go over and hang out
there 'cause it was so cool.

968
00:49:58,541 --> 00:50:01,250
You know, I'm a Famous
Monsters of Filmlandkid.

969
00:50:01,291 --> 00:50:03,333
So to be with--
they had all this stuff.

970
00:50:03,375 --> 00:50:06,000
And in that movie are mutants.

971
00:50:06,041 --> 00:50:08,416
I watched all the prototypes

972
00:50:08,458 --> 00:50:11,250
and there were a couple
that were so gross.

973
00:50:11,291 --> 00:50:14,125
There was one that
had teeth coming, like,

974
00:50:14,166 --> 00:50:17,958
I mean, really malformed,
and was so grotesque,

975
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,458
it literally made you sick.

976
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:24,458
I think we came up with half a
dozen or so different sculptures

977
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:27,458
of different,
uh, mutated people.

978
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:32,208
And what I noticed was...
We were-- In the script,

979
00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:35,291
they were supposed to be able
to take their normal faces

980
00:50:35,333 --> 00:50:39,458
and peel them off to reveal
that they were mutated.

981
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:41,583
Well, I kept looking at these
heads that we were doing,

982
00:50:41,625 --> 00:50:43,166
and these heads
were so distorted

983
00:50:43,208 --> 00:50:45,416
you'd never be able
to put a face over it.

984
00:50:45,458 --> 00:50:48,333
Somebody saw the book,
Gray's Anatomy.

985
00:50:48,375 --> 00:50:50,083
It had an illustration
of a guy in there

986
00:50:50,125 --> 00:50:52,166
with all the veins, and muscles,
and everything showing.

987
00:50:52,208 --> 00:50:53,750
And went, "Oh, that's it."

988
00:50:53,791 --> 00:50:56,416
Because that we could
put a thin skin on

989
00:50:56,458 --> 00:50:58,041
and make it look like
the person underneath,

990
00:50:58,083 --> 00:50:59,666
so when they pulled it off,

991
00:50:59,708 --> 00:51:01,583
it would marry
to it beautifully.

992
00:51:03,833 --> 00:51:06,041
Beneath the Planet of
the Apesturned out

993
00:51:06,083 --> 00:51:08,750
to be a very successful sequel.

994
00:51:08,791 --> 00:51:12,833
And if Fox was surprised by
the success of the original,

995
00:51:12,875 --> 00:51:15,166
I think they were
even more surprised

996
00:51:15,208 --> 00:51:17,000
by the success of the sequel.

997
00:51:17,041 --> 00:51:21,416
So there was an immediate
need to keep the story going.

998
00:51:24,208 --> 00:51:25,500
[narrator] At the
end ofBeneath,

999
00:51:25,541 --> 00:51:27,333
the Earth is destroyed,

1000
00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:30,166
seemingly ending the
Planet of the Apes franchise.

1001
00:51:30,208 --> 00:51:32,458
[low rumble]

1002
00:51:33,666 --> 00:51:36,208
By sending apes back in time,

1003
00:51:36,250 --> 00:51:39,583
a whole new world of
opportunities was opened.

1004
00:51:39,625 --> 00:51:42,375
[Joe] The cleverest of
the follow up pictures

1005
00:51:42,416 --> 00:51:43,958
is Escape from
the Planet of the Apes,

1006
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,916
which is a time travel picture

1007
00:51:45,958 --> 00:51:48,791
in which the apes
go back to 1973

1008
00:51:48,833 --> 00:51:51,666
and are harbingers of what's
going to happen in the future.

1009
00:51:51,708 --> 00:51:54,583
And of course, there are, uh...

1010
00:51:54,625 --> 00:51:57,250
people who want to stop
them from breeding

1011
00:51:57,291 --> 00:51:58,791
and make sure that that world

1012
00:51:58,833 --> 00:52:01,416
of apes conquering
man never happens.

1013
00:52:01,458 --> 00:52:04,333
Uh, and it's a really
cleverly plotted movie,

1014
00:52:04,375 --> 00:52:05,791
and it's my favorite
in the series,

1015
00:52:05,833 --> 00:52:08,041
just because it's so much fun.

1016
00:52:09,208 --> 00:52:12,500
It has an ending
that could have only...

1017
00:52:13,625 --> 00:52:15,916
happened in the 70s,

1018
00:52:15,958 --> 00:52:19,250
where... well, "How do
you want to end it?"

1019
00:52:20,208 --> 00:52:21,458
"Let's shoot a baby."

1020
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:24,500
"Okay." [chuckles]

1021
00:52:24,541 --> 00:52:27,250
Planet of the Apesis
the first major franchise

1022
00:52:27,291 --> 00:52:30,500
outside of James Bond that
was successful in its sequels.

1023
00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:35,083
I ran out to every
single one of 'em.

1024
00:52:36,958 --> 00:52:39,708
My favorite is Conquest
of the Planet of the Apes,

1025
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:41,958
which, to my knowledge, was shot

1026
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,208
on the Century City, uh, grounds

1027
00:52:45,250 --> 00:52:48,750
after 20th Century Fox
had sold their back lot.

1028
00:52:50,541 --> 00:52:52,166
I was at the University
of California Irvine,

1029
00:52:52,208 --> 00:52:53,541
I was a premed student.

1030
00:52:53,583 --> 00:52:56,500
Um, I looked out
the window one day,

1031
00:52:56,541 --> 00:52:59,666
and I was in my chemistry lab,
and I saw a film crew
on the set,

1032
00:52:59,708 --> 00:53:02,208
and apes running all
over our campus.

1033
00:53:02,250 --> 00:53:04,958
And it was Conquest for
the Planet of the Apes.

1034
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,416
And so, I told my lab partner,
"Hey, finish up here.

1035
00:53:09,458 --> 00:53:11,208
I'm going to go pay a visit."

1036
00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:14,208
And I met J. Lee
Thompson on the set,

1037
00:53:14,250 --> 00:53:16,750
had lunch with him,
and then six months later

1038
00:53:16,791 --> 00:53:19,916
I was Cornelius on Battle
for the Planet of the Apes.

1039
00:53:21,666 --> 00:53:24,041
[John] I knew J. Lee Thompson,

1040
00:53:24,083 --> 00:53:27,875
and Lee said to me,
"I'm doing another Apes movie."

1041
00:53:28,833 --> 00:53:30,541
And I said,
"Oh, good, you know."

1042
00:53:30,583 --> 00:53:33,375
And he said,
"Why don't you be in it?"

1043
00:53:33,416 --> 00:53:34,875
I said, "I'd love to be in it."

1044
00:53:34,916 --> 00:53:36,125
He said, "Okay."

1045
00:53:36,166 --> 00:53:39,291
So, I'm mostly cut out of it.

1046
00:53:39,333 --> 00:53:41,583
I'm a face on the cutting
room floor in that movie

1047
00:53:41,625 --> 00:53:44,583
although I get
pretty big billing right
in the main title. [chuckles]

1048
00:53:44,625 --> 00:53:48,708
But, uh, I played a human
slave to Roddy McDowall.

1049
00:53:48,750 --> 00:53:50,458
No cracks.

1050
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:52,416
But I got a lot of
shit for it, you know,

1051
00:53:52,458 --> 00:53:53,541
especially from Roddy.

1052
00:53:54,916 --> 00:53:56,375
[Bobby] The role of Cornelius
wasn't really going

1053
00:53:56,416 --> 00:53:59,416
to be that significant
until they realized

1054
00:53:59,458 --> 00:54:02,333
that they had, you know,
a sentimental storyline.

1055
00:54:02,375 --> 00:54:06,791
After a few days of watching
Roddy work up close,

1056
00:54:06,833 --> 00:54:10,916
I noticed that his makeup
was more expressive,

1057
00:54:10,958 --> 00:54:14,125
more pliable than many
of the other characters.

1058
00:54:14,166 --> 00:54:17,875
And so, I asked my makeup
artist, Jimmy Phillips,

1059
00:54:17,916 --> 00:54:21,583
how it was that Roddy could do
this little nose wiggle thing

1060
00:54:21,625 --> 00:54:23,375
that was unique.

1061
00:54:23,416 --> 00:54:24,833
And he said,
"Well, that's a secret."

1062
00:54:24,875 --> 00:54:27,708
And I said, "I know,
but I'm his son.

1063
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:30,458
I should be able to do
the same thing that he does."

1064
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:34,750
And he said, "Well, if you can
get Roddy to tell you the story
of how that gets done,

1065
00:54:34,791 --> 00:54:39,166
I'll do it for you."
And so, I was brand
new in the industry,

1066
00:54:39,208 --> 00:54:41,000
a little intimidated,
but I went to Roddy

1067
00:54:41,041 --> 00:54:44,625
and said, "Look, Mr. McDowall,
I'm playing your son.

1068
00:54:44,666 --> 00:54:47,583
I should have a characteristic
similar to yours.

1069
00:54:47,625 --> 00:54:49,708
Would you agree?" And he said,
"Yeah, what do you got?"

1070
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:51,291
I said, "How do you
do the nose thing?"

1071
00:54:51,333 --> 00:54:55,125
And he said, "Tell Jimmy
to hollow out the inside

1072
00:54:55,166 --> 00:54:58,333
of the appliance." The following
day, I got on a scene,

1073
00:54:58,375 --> 00:55:00,666
he was in the shot, and
I did the little nose wiggle,

1074
00:55:00,708 --> 00:55:03,625
and it was well-received.

1075
00:55:05,416 --> 00:55:08,916
They still had other ideas for
how to expand the Apes universe,

1076
00:55:08,958 --> 00:55:12,166
and they brought Planet
of the Apesto television.

1077
00:55:12,208 --> 00:55:16,083
When they did that, they,
first of all, managed
the biggest crew,

1078
00:55:16,125 --> 00:55:19,041
which was to keep Roddy
McDowall as part of the cast,

1079
00:55:19,083 --> 00:55:20,958
as a brand new character, Galen,

1080
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,500
a chimpanzee on the run

1081
00:55:22,541 --> 00:55:25,708
because he helped
two marooned astronauts.

1082
00:55:26,875 --> 00:55:28,708
[Dan] I was involved
in the TV series

1083
00:55:28,750 --> 00:55:32,916
and, uh, we tried to adhere,
within budget constraints,

1084
00:55:32,958 --> 00:55:35,416
to what was done
in the original pictures.

1085
00:55:36,291 --> 00:55:38,625
In fact, we probably had
to do, on a percentage basis,

1086
00:55:38,666 --> 00:55:40,458
more appliances than masks

1087
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,541
because of the TV
medium being so close.

1088
00:55:44,541 --> 00:55:46,833
Danny Striepeke called me up...

1089
00:55:48,416 --> 00:55:51,250
and he said, uh,
"Fred, I want you to do
the Planet of the Apes.

1090
00:55:51,291 --> 00:55:52,958
We're doing a TV series."

1091
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,583
I says, "Really?"

1092
00:55:54,625 --> 00:55:56,708
He says, "Yeah, you're
going to do Roddy."

1093
00:55:56,750 --> 00:56:00,500
I started working on Roddy
and it was just heaven on earth.

1094
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:04,666
[Darrell] Roddy McDowall,
when they called a wrap,

1095
00:56:04,708 --> 00:56:07,583
he would say, "Are you sure?"

1096
00:56:07,625 --> 00:56:09,000
They'd say,
"Yes, that's a wrap,"

1097
00:56:09,041 --> 00:56:11,416
and he would go.
[mimicking tearing]

1098
00:56:12,375 --> 00:56:14,750
And tear the whole
thing off in one piece.

1099
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:18,958
The physical challenges
of production,

1100
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,000
I think, just was impossible
to do on a weekly basis.

1101
00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:27,583
[narrator] Despite its
popularity, thePlanet of
the Apes TV series

1102
00:56:27,625 --> 00:56:30,333
is canceled
after just one season.

1103
00:56:30,375 --> 00:56:34,625
An animated series follows
but also only lasts a year.

1104
00:56:34,666 --> 00:56:37,833
This would be the last Apes
project produced by Fox

1105
00:56:37,875 --> 00:56:39,958
for over 25 years.

1106
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,166
[TV static]

1107
00:56:44,041 --> 00:56:46,291
[Tom] John called me
and asked me if I wanted

1108
00:56:46,333 --> 00:56:48,625
to, uh, go into
partnership with him

1109
00:56:48,666 --> 00:56:51,625
to open the very first
independent makeup studio.

1110
00:56:51,666 --> 00:56:54,500
He said I could also
bring my brother with me.

1111
00:56:54,541 --> 00:56:57,833
We were going to be doing motion
picture and television work,

1112
00:56:57,875 --> 00:56:59,750
but that was only our cover.

1113
00:56:59,791 --> 00:57:05,666
It was our job to help the CIA
create quick change disguises.

1114
00:57:06,875 --> 00:57:10,458
John stayed with them
all the way up till the 1980s.

1115
00:57:11,666 --> 00:57:15,375
We all knew that he was
working on something secretive.

1116
00:57:15,416 --> 00:57:17,500
[tense music]

1117
00:57:17,541 --> 00:57:19,458
[crowd shouting]

1118
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:25,791
There were six people when
the Iranian embassy was overrun

1119
00:57:25,833 --> 00:57:27,416
that had gotten away.

1120
00:57:29,208 --> 00:57:33,083
John Chambers and Bob Sidell
created a fake movie

1121
00:57:33,125 --> 00:57:35,041
just to get these
people out of Iran.

1122
00:57:37,208 --> 00:57:39,125
[narrator] The details of John
Chambers and the CIA's
involvement in

1123
00:57:39,166 --> 00:57:43,541
the Canadian caper remained classified until 1997.

1124
00:57:43,583 --> 00:57:46,041
The full extent of their
mission wouldn't be revealed

1125
00:57:46,083 --> 00:57:50,583
until 2012, whenArgo
premiered to critical acclaim,

1126
00:57:50,625 --> 00:57:53,000
winning the Academy
Award for Best Picture.

1127
00:57:53,041 --> 00:57:55,000
[audience applauds]

1128
00:57:58,291 --> 00:58:00,541
[Tom] John, one day, came in
and he was real grumpy,

1129
00:58:00,583 --> 00:58:02,833
and he looked torn,
he looked beaten,

1130
00:58:02,875 --> 00:58:05,333
he looked downtrodden.
I said, "What's wrong?"

1131
00:58:05,375 --> 00:58:09,541
And he said,
"Well, I've been diagnosed
with Hodgkin's Disease,

1132
00:58:09,583 --> 00:58:12,875
which is lymphoma or
cancer, blood cancer,

1133
00:58:12,916 --> 00:58:15,541
and I need you guys
to buy, buy me out."

1134
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:19,583
Well, my brother and I had
to scrape every dollar we had

1135
00:58:19,625 --> 00:58:20,750
to be able to buy him out.

1136
00:58:22,416 --> 00:58:26,250
We found out later that
the whole Hodgkin's Disease

1137
00:58:26,291 --> 00:58:27,791
was something he just made up

1138
00:58:27,833 --> 00:58:29,375
because he wanted us
to buy him out.

1139
00:58:32,875 --> 00:58:34,541
[curious music]

1140
00:58:37,125 --> 00:58:40,500
[narrator] The first film
produced after Chambers' exit
wasPhantom of the Paradise.

1141
00:58:40,541 --> 00:58:45,500
Despite having no involvement,
John Chambers was given full
credit for the production

1142
00:58:45,541 --> 00:58:48,583
due to his status as
an Academy Award winner.

1143
00:58:48,625 --> 00:58:50,250
After we bought
John Chambers out,

1144
00:58:50,291 --> 00:58:51,625
it was tough finding work.

1145
00:58:51,666 --> 00:58:53,708
We didn't have any contacts.

1146
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:55,708
And my brother and I
really couldn't afford

1147
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:58,083
to keep two families going
on what we were making,

1148
00:58:58,125 --> 00:59:02,291
so we decided to flip a coin
to see who was going to
take over the studio.

1149
00:59:02,333 --> 00:59:04,000
I won.

1150
00:59:04,041 --> 00:59:05,583
And I did several things

1151
00:59:05,625 --> 00:59:07,291
and started getting
the reputation,

1152
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:08,791
things started
to work real well.

1153
00:59:08,833 --> 00:59:11,041
And then John Chambers
calls me to ask me

1154
00:59:11,083 --> 00:59:13,291
if I would like to, uh,
work with him

1155
00:59:13,333 --> 00:59:15,583
on The Island of Dr. Moreau.

1156
00:59:15,625 --> 00:59:17,708
You know, his ego
got out of check,

1157
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:19,916
he was overbearing,
harassing people.

1158
00:59:19,958 --> 00:59:22,958
He was really miserable,
it was tough on everybody.

1159
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Even Danny Striepeke, who had
been his friend since NBC,

1160
00:59:26,041 --> 00:59:28,291
and he didn't speak
to him again.

1161
00:59:28,333 --> 00:59:30,500
And I didn't speak
to him for years.

1162
00:59:32,375 --> 00:59:34,791
[narrator] After changing
the name to Burman Studios,

1163
00:59:34,833 --> 00:59:36,958
Tom and his team began working

1164
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,416
on some of the greatest
films of the 1970s and 80s.

1165
00:59:41,333 --> 00:59:45,208
It's guys like Tommy who
had the creative juices

1166
00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:49,708
in their hands
and in their brains
that create these pieces.

1167
00:59:51,416 --> 00:59:55,125
We were in survival,
and we just did anything
and everything we could.

1168
00:59:55,166 --> 00:59:57,708
Anything that came past us,
we grabbed onto it.

1169
00:59:58,750 --> 01:00:01,625
[Michael] Tommy's a talent,
he comes from a talented family.

1170
01:00:01,666 --> 01:00:03,083
His brother, his dad.

1171
01:00:03,125 --> 01:00:04,666
You always expected quality.

1172
01:00:06,791 --> 01:00:09,958
[narrator] By the late 1970s,
Burman Studios was one of
the top names

1173
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,708
in the makeup business. At this point, Tom Burman had partnered

1174
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:16,708
with makeup effects
artist, Stan Winston.

1175
01:00:16,750 --> 01:00:18,291
We just hit it off
right on day one.

1176
01:00:18,333 --> 01:00:19,958
There was something about Stan

1177
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,208
that was tremendously inspiring.

1178
01:00:23,458 --> 01:00:26,125
[Matt] Tom Burman
and my father, Stan Winston,

1179
01:00:26,166 --> 01:00:29,083
were kindred spirits.

1180
01:00:29,125 --> 01:00:35,708
Two incredibly creative,
incredibly goofy individuals

1181
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:38,708
who happened to love
monsters and monster makeup.

1182
01:00:40,333 --> 01:00:44,833
[Tom] By the end of the 1970s,
I decided to push for
a title I had been using

1183
01:00:44,875 --> 01:00:49,000
called special makeup effects.
Nobody else used it,
the union didn't like it,

1184
01:00:49,041 --> 01:00:53,208
John Chambers didn't like it,
but I didn't find anything
that described what I did

1185
01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:54,875
any better than that title.

1186
01:00:54,916 --> 01:00:57,583
So I started using the title,

1187
01:00:57,625 --> 01:01:00,500
along with Stan Winston was the
only other one who backed me up.

1188
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:08,125
I also pushed really hard
to create a category for
makeup at the Academy

1189
01:01:08,166 --> 01:01:12,000
because they were very
resistant, but you could see
everywhere that makeup was,

1190
01:01:12,041 --> 01:01:14,875
uh, was very prominent
in so many films.

1191
01:01:14,916 --> 01:01:17,125
[audience applauds]

1192
01:01:19,166 --> 01:01:21,166
[narrator] The first annual
Academy Award for Makeup

1193
01:01:21,208 --> 01:01:23,750
was presented in 1982.

1194
01:01:23,791 --> 01:01:26,708
Because of the importance
ofPlanet of the Apes
on the art form,

1195
01:01:26,750 --> 01:01:29,083
Kim Hunter was chosen
to present the award

1196
01:01:29,125 --> 01:01:31,916
with horror icon, Vincent Price.

1197
01:01:31,958 --> 01:01:33,625
The winner is Rick Baker

1198
01:01:33,666 --> 01:01:35,416
for An American
Werewolf in London.

1199
01:01:35,458 --> 01:01:38,791
[audience applauds]

1200
01:01:38,833 --> 01:01:41,208
In California there
were only three guys.

1201
01:01:41,250 --> 01:01:45,000
I mean, there was Rick Baker,
Stan Winston, and Tom Burman.

1202
01:01:45,041 --> 01:01:48,291
And they were doing
everything and innovating.

1203
01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:49,958
[Mike] Tom is a mainstay
of our industry.

1204
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,125
He is a creative force
that everybody recognizes,

1205
01:01:53,166 --> 01:01:54,916
everybody knows the Burman name.

1206
01:01:54,958 --> 01:01:57,916
He is one of the main
people in our industry

1207
01:01:57,958 --> 01:02:00,375
who gives us material to look at

1208
01:02:00,416 --> 01:02:02,166
and to draw inspiration from.

1209
01:02:03,958 --> 01:02:06,541
[Tom] One of my favorite
directors to work for was
Richard Donner.

1210
01:02:06,583 --> 01:02:10,750
We did, um, Goonies,we did
Scrooged, Lethal Weapon.

1211
01:02:11,666 --> 01:02:13,208
[Richard] Making
a movie is a bitch.

1212
01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:15,750
You run into all kinds of
trials and tribulations.

1213
01:02:15,791 --> 01:02:20,000
Forgetting all that, they
delivered the best, the Burmans.

1214
01:02:20,041 --> 01:02:21,750
They were just
a pleasure to be with.

1215
01:02:23,541 --> 01:02:26,583
Going into the 80s were some
really interesting years

1216
01:02:26,625 --> 01:02:30,125
and that's when I met you, 1980.

1217
01:02:30,166 --> 01:02:32,916
And we did, um, Cat People
together, remember?

1218
01:02:32,958 --> 01:02:35,250
I do remember and it
was very magical.

1219
01:02:35,291 --> 01:02:38,041
And you, you allowed
me the freedom

1220
01:02:38,083 --> 01:02:41,541
to help you design Nastassia
Kinski's transformation,

1221
01:02:41,583 --> 01:02:44,208
and our journey began.

1222
01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:46,666
Yeah, I wanted
a feminine approach,

1223
01:02:46,708 --> 01:02:48,583
not a real masculine
heavy approach.

1224
01:02:48,625 --> 01:02:52,541
That's why I was delighted to
have you there and we've, um--

1225
01:02:52,583 --> 01:02:54,000
We've been collaborating
ever since.

1226
01:02:54,041 --> 01:02:55,750
Yeah, we've been
collaborating ever since.

1227
01:02:55,791 --> 01:02:57,833
You always know
where we're going

1228
01:02:57,875 --> 01:03:00,708
-and I'm a detail fanatic, so.
-You are, you are.

1229
01:03:00,750 --> 01:03:04,375
She loves to get those little
tiny edges, and the little
parts and pieces.

1230
01:03:04,416 --> 01:03:09,250
And, uh, you know, we do our
dance around somebody as we--

1231
01:03:09,291 --> 01:03:11,541
-It's very magical
because we just sort of--
-Yeah.

1232
01:03:11,583 --> 01:03:12,833
When an actor's in our chair,

1233
01:03:12,875 --> 01:03:14,666
we just sort of
know how we work.

1234
01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:17,166
And, you know, you always
know where we're going

1235
01:03:17,208 --> 01:03:19,875
and then I am obsessive
about making sure

1236
01:03:19,916 --> 01:03:21,625
all the details are perfect.

1237
01:03:21,666 --> 01:03:27,625
And it's a blissful marriage,
partnership, and journey.

1238
01:03:27,666 --> 01:03:29,750
It's been, been great.

1239
01:03:29,791 --> 01:03:31,333
I'm giving you a kiss.

1240
01:03:31,375 --> 01:03:32,375
[lips smacking]

1241
01:03:34,625 --> 01:03:37,250
[narrator] In 1988,
on the 20th anniversary

1242
01:03:37,291 --> 01:03:42,083
of its original release,
Fox began discussing a remake
ofPlanet of the Apes.

1243
01:03:42,125 --> 01:03:45,708
But the film would spend over
a decade in development hell

1244
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:48,708
before director, Tim Burton,
joined the project.

1245
01:03:48,750 --> 01:03:50,333
I need to take a sabbatical,

1246
01:03:50,375 --> 01:03:51,666
I need to get away for a while.

1247
01:03:52,750 --> 01:03:55,000
I get a call from Tim Burton

1248
01:03:55,041 --> 01:03:57,125
saying, "I'm going to do
a Planet of the Apesremake,

1249
01:03:57,166 --> 01:03:58,541
I'd like to talk to you
about doing it."

1250
01:03:58,583 --> 01:04:01,625
And I was like, "Oh, shit."
You know?

1251
01:04:01,666 --> 01:04:03,625
[narrator] Rick Baker
and Stan Winston vied

1252
01:04:03,666 --> 01:04:07,208
for the highly coveted
position of makeup designer.

1253
01:04:07,250 --> 01:04:14,250
My dad wanted so badly to put
his stamp on the franchise.

1254
01:04:14,291 --> 01:04:17,166
And he lobbied for it hard,

1255
01:04:17,208 --> 01:04:19,333
and he and I got
our life cast done,

1256
01:04:19,375 --> 01:04:23,083
and they sculpted these
incredible ape makeups.

1257
01:04:23,125 --> 01:04:27,083
Dad was an elderly chimp,
I was a young chimp.

1258
01:04:28,833 --> 01:04:31,333
It was a dream for me to be
able to perform with my dad,

1259
01:04:31,375 --> 01:04:33,375
but I know it was
a dream for him

1260
01:04:33,416 --> 01:04:36,541
because he came out to
Los Angeles to be an actor.

1261
01:04:36,583 --> 01:04:38,791
And here was his
opportunity to act again.

1262
01:04:39,791 --> 01:04:41,416
[narrator] Despite
Stan Winston's effort,

1263
01:04:41,458 --> 01:04:44,083
Rick Baker was selected
to create makeups

1264
01:04:44,125 --> 01:04:47,333
for this new vision of
Planet of the Apes.

1265
01:04:47,375 --> 01:04:49,375
I was very pleased with
the makeups that we did,

1266
01:04:49,416 --> 01:04:51,875
and was pleased at the
amount of makeups that we did,

1267
01:04:51,916 --> 01:04:53,750
and the quality of them.

1268
01:04:53,791 --> 01:04:55,291
[dramatic music]

1269
01:04:55,333 --> 01:04:57,458
[narrator] Released in 2001,

1270
01:04:57,500 --> 01:05:00,208
Planet of the Apes
opened to mixed reviews.

1271
01:05:00,250 --> 01:05:02,208
And despite being
a commercial success,

1272
01:05:02,250 --> 01:05:04,083
it was unable to
match the original.

1273
01:05:06,458 --> 01:05:08,875
The big films started going
more to the larger studios

1274
01:05:08,916 --> 01:05:12,541
like Stan Winston's, or
Rick Baker's, or Greg Cannom's.

1275
01:05:12,583 --> 01:05:16,791
And, uh, Barry and I started to
do a segue into television.

1276
01:05:16,833 --> 01:05:18,708
We, we didn't want to leave home

1277
01:05:18,750 --> 01:05:22,083
because we had
a brand new baby, Max,

1278
01:05:22,125 --> 01:05:24,208
and, um, it was perfect for us.

1279
01:05:24,250 --> 01:05:26,875
We did things like
The Tracey Ullman Showwhere

1280
01:05:26,916 --> 01:05:29,791
we only had to work one day
a week, we could prep all week.

1281
01:05:29,833 --> 01:05:32,291
And we did things
like Chicago Hope,

1282
01:05:32,333 --> 01:05:36,208
and we did the pilot for Buffy
the Vampire Slayer, CSI.

1283
01:05:36,250 --> 01:05:39,458
And we eventually wound
up doing Nip/Tuck,

1284
01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:41,291
and we decided at that time,

1285
01:05:41,333 --> 01:05:45,125
we wanted to bring motion
picture quality to television.

1286
01:05:45,166 --> 01:05:49,041
Greer Shephard, Ryan
Murphy's producer, came to us

1287
01:05:49,083 --> 01:05:52,625
and said that the studio
greenlit Nip/Tuck

1288
01:05:52,666 --> 01:05:54,083
because of the work we did.

1289
01:05:55,208 --> 01:05:57,083
There's always a range of people

1290
01:05:57,125 --> 01:05:59,666
that can make something
delicate or expressive.

1291
01:06:00,583 --> 01:06:06,000
You know, uh, and I think that,
uh, Tom could run the gamut

1292
01:06:06,041 --> 01:06:09,500
and make something
that was so naturalistic

1293
01:06:09,541 --> 01:06:11,916
that nobody knows it's makeup.

1294
01:06:12,833 --> 01:06:15,291
I feel that Tom took a,
a different approach

1295
01:06:15,333 --> 01:06:18,000
to a lot of things than
other makeup artists would.

1296
01:06:19,083 --> 01:06:21,958
[Ve] They did so many
fantastic things for TV

1297
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,375
and I'm sure it was like,
you know, hellacious,

1298
01:06:24,416 --> 01:06:26,708
because TV has such
quick turnaround.

1299
01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:31,750
So, he really made it possible
for that to happen on TV.

1300
01:06:32,750 --> 01:06:34,375
The Burmans did an amazing job.

1301
01:06:34,416 --> 01:06:38,333
I think that really laid
the way for a lot of shows.

1302
01:06:41,666 --> 01:06:45,250
[narrator] Throughout his
career, Tom Burman has been
not only an inspiration

1303
01:06:45,291 --> 01:06:48,125
but also a mentor
to makeup artists.

1304
01:06:48,166 --> 01:06:52,458
I'd been looking for someone to,
um, teach what I knew.

1305
01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:53,916
I mean, it's not like
we didn't have people

1306
01:06:53,958 --> 01:06:55,625
through the years,
a lot of people.

1307
01:06:55,666 --> 01:06:59,583
Vince was insatiable and
he wanted to learn everything.

1308
01:07:02,583 --> 01:07:04,416
I decided to retire.

1309
01:07:05,708 --> 01:07:08,125
Vincent came here at that time.

1310
01:07:08,166 --> 01:07:11,000
It was easy just to
hand it over to him.

1311
01:07:11,041 --> 01:07:13,625
[Vincent] The day that Burman
Studios became B2FX was,

1312
01:07:13,666 --> 01:07:15,500
it was kind of
an emotional day for me,

1313
01:07:15,541 --> 01:07:17,958
because I joke and I often say

1314
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,791
that it was almost like moving
back into your parents' house

1315
01:07:19,833 --> 01:07:21,375
after you moved out.

1316
01:07:21,416 --> 01:07:24,916
I've always wanted to
open up my own studio.

1317
01:07:24,958 --> 01:07:28,041
Taking these steps into
making that happen

1318
01:07:28,083 --> 01:07:32,625
just came full circle into me
renting the space
and being here.

1319
01:07:32,666 --> 01:07:36,250
It was, it was...
it was such an amazing feeling.

1320
01:07:36,291 --> 01:07:38,208
[narrator] Despite
makeup finding a place

1321
01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:40,958
in the hearts of a new
generation of artists,

1322
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,875
the industry began to shift
towards digital effects.

1323
01:07:44,916 --> 01:07:47,750
Ever since I can remember,
there are these naysayers

1324
01:07:47,791 --> 01:07:50,500
about the future of
the motion picture business,

1325
01:07:50,541 --> 01:07:53,791
especially makeup because
of the digital era.

1326
01:07:53,833 --> 01:07:55,750
And, uh, I don't see it.

1327
01:07:55,791 --> 01:07:58,041
I see makeup's just
going to keep growing

1328
01:07:58,083 --> 01:08:00,000
and it's going to keep changing.

1329
01:08:00,041 --> 01:08:02,416
But there's a lot of
fear around that.

1330
01:08:02,458 --> 01:08:07,791
I said, "You know,
eventually they're not going
to need makeup artists."

1331
01:08:07,833 --> 01:08:10,541
He says, "What do you mean?
Oh, you're full of crap."

1332
01:08:10,583 --> 01:08:12,791
I think they're going
to go CGI route.

1333
01:08:12,833 --> 01:08:15,250
I see, basically the end...

1334
01:08:16,541 --> 01:08:18,625
of makeup as we know it today.

1335
01:08:20,833 --> 01:08:25,041
[narrator] Bolstered by the success of digital studios, such as Weta and ILM,

1336
01:08:25,083 --> 01:08:30,041
Fox greenlights a new
Planet of the Apes film.
This time, it's a reboot.

1337
01:08:30,083 --> 01:08:33,666
The new Planet of the Apes,
what we did is that we made
all the apes digital this time.

1338
01:08:33,708 --> 01:08:36,958
And, you know, one of the funny
things is that when we were
doing the first one,

1339
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,125
a lot of my friends from Los
Angeles, you know, heard that
we were gonna be doing it

1340
01:08:40,166 --> 01:08:43,583
and he said, "Oh, fantastic.
You're finally gonna get to work
on a Planet of the Apesfilm.

1341
01:08:43,625 --> 01:08:46,500
So, what kind of prosthetics are
you gonna use and everything?"

1342
01:08:46,541 --> 01:08:50,541
I thought, "Actually,
no prosthetics this time.
It's all going to be digital."

1343
01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:53,416
[Michael] But it's a completely
different approach,

1344
01:08:53,458 --> 01:08:56,333
completely different,
really, type of film.

1345
01:08:57,416 --> 01:09:00,291
[Rick] I wanted to hate
the Planet of the Apes

1346
01:09:00,333 --> 01:09:02,625
that they did when they
did it with all computers,

1347
01:09:02,666 --> 01:09:04,875
but I was actually pretty
blown away by what they did.

1348
01:09:05,916 --> 01:09:08,625
[narrator] By 2018,
three, all digital

1349
01:09:08,666 --> 01:09:11,000
Planet of the Apes
films had been released

1350
01:09:11,041 --> 01:09:14,583
and grossed over
$2 billion at the box office.

1351
01:09:14,625 --> 01:09:18,958
Entertainment is evolving
faster than we can imagine.

1352
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,625
And digital
technology is the vein

1353
01:09:20,666 --> 01:09:23,500
through which that life
blood is going to flow.

1354
01:09:23,541 --> 01:09:25,625
There's no-- We can bang our
heads against the wall

1355
01:09:25,666 --> 01:09:27,541
and say, "No, there'll always
be prosthetic makeups.

1356
01:09:27,583 --> 01:09:29,250
We know it's better
to blend the two."

1357
01:09:29,291 --> 01:09:31,708
We can bang our heads and
we can do whatever we want,

1358
01:09:31,750 --> 01:09:33,083
but it's coming.

1359
01:09:33,125 --> 01:09:35,000
[Greg] I love CGI,
I'm all for it.

1360
01:09:35,041 --> 01:09:37,291
If I do an age makeup,
trying to do it every day,

1361
01:09:37,333 --> 01:09:39,750
you're going to make
mistakes, little things.

1362
01:09:39,791 --> 01:09:44,083
I think a lot of people
are so afraid of CGI,
and things taking over,

1363
01:09:44,125 --> 01:09:46,208
and the makeup effects world
being this dying art form

1364
01:09:46,250 --> 01:09:48,541
that will, you know,
just go down.

1365
01:09:48,583 --> 01:09:50,083
I just don't see any
of that happening.

1366
01:09:50,125 --> 01:09:52,541
I see it as busy as it
has ever been right now.

1367
01:09:54,041 --> 01:09:56,833
[Tom] Artists like
Vincent are our future

1368
01:09:56,875 --> 01:09:59,458
because he appreciates the past.

1369
01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:03,916
Most makeup artists that I know,
they always refer back to
the originals, the classics,

1370
01:10:03,958 --> 01:10:06,000
which Planet of
the Apesof course is.

1371
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,166
Tom, this is the first time
we've talked in 48 years.

1372
01:10:11,208 --> 01:10:13,541
-Wow.
-And I'm still mad at you.

1373
01:10:13,583 --> 01:10:16,333
Yeah, should be, you should be.

1374
01:10:16,375 --> 01:10:18,333
-Yeah, it seems like yesterday.
-[Lou] I know.

1375
01:10:18,375 --> 01:10:20,541
[Tom] Part of me,
just seems like I can go back

1376
01:10:20,583 --> 01:10:23,875
and visit that moment, and get
all excited all over again.

1377
01:10:26,041 --> 01:10:28,541
[Vincent] When the conversation
first came up of putting
Lou Wagner

1378
01:10:28,583 --> 01:10:31,000
back into
a Planet of the Apeslook,

1379
01:10:31,041 --> 01:10:33,375
that was a very
exciting phone call.

1380
01:10:37,625 --> 01:10:39,250
It's a once in
a lifetime opportunity

1381
01:10:39,291 --> 01:10:42,333
to be able to take
somebody from that film,

1382
01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:46,583
this many years later,
and transform him into a,

1383
01:10:46,625 --> 01:10:49,083
what really got me,
is into his character now.

1384
01:10:49,125 --> 01:10:52,208
[dramatic music]

1385
01:12:13,958 --> 01:12:19,291
Seeing Lou in his old age
ape makeup after 50 years

1386
01:12:19,333 --> 01:12:23,000
brought back a lot of memories
of John and our falling out.

1387
01:12:23,875 --> 01:12:27,833
Those years when I tried to
contact him and couldn't,

1388
01:12:27,875 --> 01:12:30,000
didn't know where he was.

1389
01:12:30,041 --> 01:12:31,541
And then I heard he had a stroke

1390
01:12:31,583 --> 01:12:33,875
and he was in
the Motion Picture Home.

1391
01:12:33,916 --> 01:12:36,583
I was fortunate to
meet John Chambers.

1392
01:12:36,625 --> 01:12:40,416
Kind of felt like he was in
the witness relocation program,
from my perspective,

1393
01:12:40,458 --> 01:12:43,708
for a while. It was like he
disappeared, and he was
completely off the radar.

1394
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:47,750
And then I heard that he was
at the Motion Picture Home.

1395
01:12:47,791 --> 01:12:49,708
[Scott] I said, "What if we do
a party for John?"

1396
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:53,333
Because it's been,
at that time, 30 years

1397
01:12:53,375 --> 01:12:54,916
since he worked on
Planet of the Apes.

1398
01:12:54,958 --> 01:12:56,625
And I'll bring in
people he worked with,

1399
01:12:56,666 --> 01:12:59,666
but he'll also meet people
he's never met before,

1400
01:12:59,708 --> 01:13:04,083
people who were influenced by
what he did in those movies
in terms of their makeup.

1401
01:13:05,833 --> 01:13:07,875
[crowd] Surprise!

1402
01:13:07,916 --> 01:13:10,708
-[crowd applauds]
-[John Chambers laughing]

1403
01:13:19,458 --> 01:13:26,250
-Oh boy. When an Irishman hasn't
got words to say anything...
-[crowd laughs]

1404
01:13:26,291 --> 01:13:29,750
[Scott] And it just so happened
that it was the day
before his 75th birthday.

1405
01:13:29,791 --> 01:13:32,375
♪ Happy birthday to you

1406
01:13:32,416 --> 01:13:35,458
[Scott] He was pretty impressed
that we had all
those people there,

1407
01:13:35,500 --> 01:13:36,958
because it was
a lot of his friends,

1408
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,083
and colleagues, and peers.

1409
01:13:39,125 --> 01:13:42,958
You sparked the imagination
of an army of kids

1410
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,666
who are now the eminent
and renowned of your field.

1411
01:13:48,125 --> 01:13:51,625
I'm afraid that you have
to settle for the reality

1412
01:13:51,666 --> 01:13:53,875
that you are an icon.

1413
01:13:53,916 --> 01:13:56,708
[all applauding]

1414
01:13:56,750 --> 01:14:00,875
Dr. Zira, I believe
Chambers would like a kiss.

1415
01:14:00,916 --> 01:14:03,291
[all laughing]

1416
01:14:03,333 --> 01:14:06,083
[all applauding]

1417
01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:09,083
[Michael] You probably couldn't
predict this, but there was a
great thing that happened

1418
01:14:09,125 --> 01:14:11,708
for our industry that day,
is there were a lot of folks

1419
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:14,750
who hadn't seen each
other in a long time.

1420
01:14:14,791 --> 01:14:19,708
And maybe some old grudges
were left behind that day.

1421
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:21,333
I think it was
a good healing time,

1422
01:14:21,375 --> 01:14:22,500
I think, for the industry.

1423
01:14:24,416 --> 01:14:26,333
[calm music]

1424
01:14:34,291 --> 01:14:36,083
[Tom] After
Scott Essman called me

1425
01:14:36,125 --> 01:14:39,583
and told me that they were
throwing a 75th birthday party

1426
01:14:39,625 --> 01:14:43,708
for John Chambers, I was
a little ambivalent about going

1427
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:46,291
because I had a lot of
unfinished business with John.

1428
01:14:46,333 --> 01:14:48,166
We had kind of
separated in a way

1429
01:14:48,208 --> 01:14:50,625
that I hadn't spoken
to him for years.

1430
01:14:50,666 --> 01:14:54,208
I had tried to get in
touch with him many times.

1431
01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:55,541
I never got an answer.

1432
01:14:55,583 --> 01:14:57,666
So, I went.

1433
01:14:58,708 --> 01:15:01,541
But to see him in
a wheelchair...

1434
01:15:03,791 --> 01:15:05,583
was pretty moving for me.

1435
01:15:05,625 --> 01:15:10,083
All of a sudden... I, I saw
him in a whole other light.

1436
01:15:10,125 --> 01:15:15,291
He didn't have that
bombastic presence any longer.

1437
01:15:15,333 --> 01:15:17,791
You, you could see that
he'd had a stroke,

1438
01:15:17,833 --> 01:15:21,125
and you could see that one side
of him was somewhat paralyzed.

1439
01:15:21,166 --> 01:15:25,666
And it was, um... I kind of
stayed in the back,

1440
01:15:25,708 --> 01:15:29,041
and watched everybody as,
as they congratulated him,

1441
01:15:29,083 --> 01:15:31,875
and people filed by
and they shook his hand,

1442
01:15:31,916 --> 01:15:34,458
and they got their
picture taken with him.

1443
01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:35,541
And, uh...

1444
01:15:38,500 --> 01:15:42,500
It was-- after, after a while,
he, he looked over
and he saw me.

1445
01:15:44,250 --> 01:15:45,125
And, uh...

1446
01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:49,333
he...

1447
01:15:50,625 --> 01:15:52,458
he called me to his side.

1448
01:15:54,041 --> 01:15:54,916
And...

1449
01:15:56,125 --> 01:15:57,083
And he said...

1450
01:15:58,375 --> 01:16:00,416
"You're the one
I'm most proud of, Tommy."

1451
01:16:04,666 --> 01:16:05,541
And...

1452
01:16:06,708 --> 01:16:09,041
and we looked into
each other's eyes

1453
01:16:09,083 --> 01:16:11,250
and both of us had tears.

1454
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,000
And it was over.

1455
01:16:18,583 --> 01:16:23,916
The anguish, the past...
it was gone, finished.

1456
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:30,791
[narrator] John Chambers
died in August of 2001,

1457
01:16:30,833 --> 01:16:32,333
at the age of 78.

1458
01:16:34,750 --> 01:16:35,916
Johnny. Hm.

1459
01:16:36,791 --> 01:16:38,916
[sniffling]

1460
01:16:47,583 --> 01:16:48,958
[whispers] Just a minute.

1461
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,416
I loved him like a brother.

1462
01:16:53,208 --> 01:16:55,000
And at times,
I got so damn mad at him,

1463
01:16:55,041 --> 01:16:56,250
I could've killed him.

1464
01:16:57,666 --> 01:16:59,166
[Tom] He was like
a father to me.

1465
01:17:00,958 --> 01:17:04,291
He was my teacher,
he taught me about life,
he taught me about people,

1466
01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:09,458
he taught me the skills that I
needed, the entrepreneurial
skills I needed to be on my own.

1467
01:17:09,500 --> 01:17:11,875
He made a huge
difference in my world.

1468
01:17:14,291 --> 01:17:16,750
[light jazzy music]

1469
01:17:37,291 --> 01:17:38,625
[horn honking]

1470
01:17:38,666 --> 01:17:40,583
[Tom] The one thing
we never expected

1471
01:17:40,625 --> 01:17:42,666
when we were working
on Planet of the Apes

1472
01:17:42,708 --> 01:17:44,541
was the huge fanbase.

1473
01:17:44,583 --> 01:17:47,041
-[uplifting music]
-Hello!

1474
01:17:47,083 --> 01:17:49,500
I'm still shocked and surprised

1475
01:17:49,541 --> 01:17:54,500
that there are
such avid... fans.

1476
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:59,083
If you're a fan of
Planet of the Apes,

1477
01:17:59,125 --> 01:18:02,041
you're a dyed in the wool fan.

1478
01:18:02,083 --> 01:18:05,416
[Scott] If you go to conventions
like Monsterpalooza,

1479
01:18:05,458 --> 01:18:07,625
you always see Planet
of the Apescharacters.

1480
01:18:07,666 --> 01:18:09,541
And the fans don't
spare any expense.

1481
01:18:09,583 --> 01:18:12,416
They have the shoes
with the, the ape paw print,

1482
01:18:12,458 --> 01:18:15,208
and they have the,
the full head to toe costume,

1483
01:18:15,250 --> 01:18:17,250
mostly they make themselves.

1484
01:18:17,291 --> 01:18:19,750
I've been a fan ever
since I was a child.

1485
01:18:19,791 --> 01:18:24,375
When I hear the opening music,
it's just like I'm, you know,
11 years old again.

1486
01:18:24,416 --> 01:18:29,708
We pretty much did everything
ourselves, I mean down to making
our own shoes, our own costumes,

1487
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:31,375
doing our own makeup.

1488
01:18:31,416 --> 01:18:33,666
This is why I love,
uh, science fiction

1489
01:18:33,708 --> 01:18:34,916
and horror movies so much.

1490
01:18:34,958 --> 01:18:36,208
It's all Planet of the Apes.

1491
01:18:37,958 --> 01:18:40,500
If the Planet of the Apes
franchise didn't have

1492
01:18:40,541 --> 01:18:44,333
an absolutely committed
and dedicated fanbase,

1493
01:18:44,375 --> 01:18:48,500
it wouldn't have sustained
itself for the 50 years
that it has.

1494
01:18:48,541 --> 01:18:52,833
Um, Star Trekhas been around
nearly as long, uh,
Star Warsfans,

1495
01:18:52,875 --> 01:18:55,750
they're all extremely dedicated

1496
01:18:55,791 --> 01:18:57,875
to that particular franchise.

1497
01:18:57,916 --> 01:19:04,375
And the Apes fans, I find,
are enormously... intelligent.

1498
01:19:05,708 --> 01:19:08,875
[narrator] Original memorabilia
from thePlanet of
the Apes franchise,

1499
01:19:08,916 --> 01:19:11,833
including prosthetics,
costumes, and props,

1500
01:19:11,875 --> 01:19:13,875
have become relics
among collectors.

1501
01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:17,000
[Joe] Collecting film artifacts

1502
01:19:17,041 --> 01:19:19,791
and television artifacts
has grown exponentially.

1503
01:19:19,833 --> 01:19:23,666
I've been very fortunate because
I've saved a big chunk of the
history of Hollywood, right?

1504
01:19:23,708 --> 01:19:26,750
In my career, I've probably
handled almost everything

1505
01:19:26,791 --> 01:19:28,500
that survived from
Planet of the Apes,

1506
01:19:28,541 --> 01:19:31,125
to whether it's the Lawgiver,
the bleeding Lawgiver.

1507
01:19:31,166 --> 01:19:33,875
I've had every costume
of every principal actor,

1508
01:19:33,916 --> 01:19:37,166
you know, makeup heads,
background apes, prosthetics.

1509
01:19:37,208 --> 01:19:39,583
I don't think there's
something we haven't had.

1510
01:19:41,083 --> 01:19:43,083
[solemn music]

1511
01:19:45,083 --> 01:19:48,250
[Alessandro] The 50th
anniversary exhibit that we have
here on display at

1512
01:19:48,291 --> 01:19:52,791
the School of Cinematic Arts
is an attempt to
really bring together

1513
01:19:52,833 --> 01:19:56,291
as many facets of the Planet
of the Apesuniverse, really,

1514
01:19:56,333 --> 01:20:00,708
as we can, to show and
celebrate the original films,

1515
01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:02,541
alongside the amazing
achievements

1516
01:20:02,583 --> 01:20:04,041
of the contemporary films.

1517
01:20:10,291 --> 01:20:12,250
[Howard] I think the work that
Tom and John did

1518
01:20:12,291 --> 01:20:15,750
on Planet of the Apeswas
absolutely a turning point

1519
01:20:15,791 --> 01:20:17,416
in film history.

1520
01:20:22,541 --> 01:20:27,416
When people say they don't
have influences, they're lying.

1521
01:20:27,458 --> 01:20:31,000
Because everything you
see influences you.

1522
01:20:31,041 --> 01:20:33,958
And I know that I took something
from Planet of the Apes.

1523
01:20:34,958 --> 01:20:38,458
It's a very successful
tale well-told.

1524
01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:40,291
[dramatic music]

1525
01:20:40,333 --> 01:20:42,291
[Richard] It's that
world of fantasy.

1526
01:20:42,333 --> 01:20:46,875
It seems to hold an audience
for generations to come.

1527
01:20:49,125 --> 01:20:52,333
[Maurice] If I'm ever asked
what some of my favorite
projects are,

1528
01:20:52,375 --> 01:20:55,750
I would always come up
with the very first one

1529
01:20:55,791 --> 01:20:58,375
that almost everybody in
the world knows about.

1530
01:20:58,416 --> 01:21:00,375
It was the original
Planet of the Apes.

1531
01:21:01,333 --> 01:21:04,208
[Lou] It was singularly
the best film

1532
01:21:04,250 --> 01:21:07,208
I was lucky enough to do.

1533
01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:11,666
It's the proudest
I am in my 50 year career.

1534
01:21:13,958 --> 01:21:18,791
I hope that 50 years from now
that people will look
upon our sequence of films

1535
01:21:18,833 --> 01:21:21,708
with the same
amount of respect and...

1536
01:21:23,291 --> 01:21:24,166
nostalgia.

1537
01:21:26,958 --> 01:21:30,750
I'm honored that people love
the movies I've worked on,

1538
01:21:30,791 --> 01:21:32,375
and I've worked on hundreds.

1539
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,500
But when I look back,
the greatest moment

1540
01:21:36,541 --> 01:21:40,208
in my career was
John and I standing

1541
01:21:40,250 --> 01:21:44,166
at that marble top
table making apes.

1542
01:21:44,208 --> 01:21:46,791
[dramatic music]

1543
01:21:57,166 --> 01:21:59,958
[uplifting music]

1544
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,166
[solemn music]

1545
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:37,750
[dramatic music]