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[Rowe] Belize Central Prison.
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My name is Raphael Rowe,
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and I'm spending a week here, locked up
with the country's most violent criminals.
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Those cells are bad enough,
but this is terrifying.
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It's like something out of a movie.
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It's not my first time behind bars.
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Hold your penis. Lift it up for me.
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[Rowe] I was convicted in the UK
of a murder I didn't commit
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And sentenced to life with no parole.
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It took me 12 long years to clear my name.
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Now, I'm traveling the globe
to discover what life is really like
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inside some of the
world's toughest prisons.
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Belize, Central America.
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It may look like a tropical paradise,
but it has a dark side.
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This devoutly Catholic country
of only 378,000 people
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has the third-highest murder rate,
per capita, in the world.
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I'll be spending a week here,
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locked up in the country's only prison,
alongside its most dangerous criminals.
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But before I go inside...
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I'm heading to the capital,
Belize City,
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to find out why murder is so common here.
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In the last four days, four people
have lost their lives in Belize City.
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In broad daylight, a man was shot dead.
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Much of the violence here is gang-related.
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In the city's south side,
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there's an incredible 27 gangs warring
over just four square miles of territory.
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[man] The gang does retaliation.
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They take the law into their own hand.
They turn vigilante.
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That's why they keep retaliating
at each other.
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That's why the crime don't stop.
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[Rowe] America's infamous Bloods and Crips
have had a presence here since the 1980s,
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when expat Belizeans
were deported from the United States,
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bringing gang culture with them.
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The authorities in Belize
are fighting a losing battle.
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-Is that a gang sign?
-That's one right there.
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It's from the Bloods.
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[Rowe] Police inspector Brent Hamilton
and his K-9 unit are on the front line.
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They look for these
young boys in Belize City
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who are not doing anything,
who don't have any job.
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They try to recruit
as young as 12 years old
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and try to form them up as a gang.
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Are these the guys that end up in prison?
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Are these the guys
you're constantly targeting?
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[Brent] Yes, sir. Most of these guys,
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when the police goes out
on raids and such,
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we find drugs on them.
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Sometimes, we find firearms.
Sometimes, we find bullets.
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They involve themselves in murder.
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They kill each other to try to show
who is the supreme leader or so forth.
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So, there's only two places for them:
It's either six feet under or in prison.
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[Brent] Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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[Rowe] Gang members arrested by police
are taken to Belize Central Prison,
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where they can spend years awaiting trial.
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That's where I'm heading now,
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to experience life as
one of its 1,300 inmates,
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a quarter of whom are in for murder.
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I'm apprehensive, because it had
a brutal reputation in the past.
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Back in the 1990s,
it was a squalid hellhole.
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The authorities couldn't afford
to feed the inmates,
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and it was plagued
by shocking violence and murder.
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In 2002, things had reached crisis point,
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and the Belize government handed over
responsibility for the prison to an NGO:
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the Kolbe Foundation.
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Their mission was
to turn the prison around
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and reduce the 73% re-offending rate.
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Fifteen years on, and Kolbe claim
to have transformed the prison.
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Their secret weapon...
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[man over speakers] Hebrews 4 tells us...
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[Rowe] ...God.
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[man over speakers] ...enter into
the rest of God. [continues indistinctly]
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[Rowe] I'm told the authorities here
are on a crusade
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to redeem sinners and save their souls.
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The usurper Lucifer...
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[Rowe] Prisoners must obey
the word of the Lord and conform...
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We want to do things Jesus' way.
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...or be condemned to suffer punishment
that critics have branded inhumane.
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I'm about to discover if, and how,
this really works.
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Do you normally manhandle
the prisoners like this?
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It depends on the circumstances,
who we're bringing in.
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One from Belize City.
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[Rowe] The Kolbe Foundation was formed
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by local businessmen
to run Belize Central Prison.
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As long as they obey Belize law,
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it's Kolbe, rather than the government,
who dictate the prison's philosophy.
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What's this? The holding cell?
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Just relax yourself. There is a process--
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-[Rowe] Relax in a cage?
-That's right.
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[Rowe] Before my conviction
was overturned, I did 12 years for murder,
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and was checked in to prisons
all over the UK.
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The feeling is always the same.
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In the next half an hour, I will go
out there into the belly of the beast,
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where you then test your wits
against other prisoners.
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And it all starts with a look.
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Sizing other prisoners up.
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Already sniffing out who is important.
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And, sometimes, that can be a simple sign.
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Who's wearing the cleanest clothes?
Who looks like they look after themselves?
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Because that is a measure of somebody
who has more privileges than anybody else.
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So, you're already switching on
your survival mechanism.
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Raphael Rowe.
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[Rowe] And now my first step to becoming
a prisoner at Belize Central Prison:
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the strip search.
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What sort of things
do prisoners bring in with them?
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Drugs, weapons, ammunition.
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And why would they bring ammunition?
Is it a dangerous place?
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[guard] We have different gang rivals,
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and we try to prevent, avoid that,
by doing this kind of searches.
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[Rowe] My boxers, as well?
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Yes, sir.
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Pull your ears. Okay.
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I want you to spread your legs.
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Hold your penis.
Lift it up for me.
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Turn around.
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Lean forward.
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Lower as you can go.
Okay, with both hands,
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spread it wide open for me.
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[Rowe] I know this process well
from my own time inside.
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It starts with the strip search,
then loads of questions.
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Fingerprints are taken,
followed by a mug shot.
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Finally, I'm issued a prison uniform
and taken to a dirty holding cell.
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This is what now distinguishes me
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-from being a civilian to a prisoner.
-[guard] Prisoner.
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Because until I took my own clothes off,
I felt I was me, Raphael Rowe.
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Now, I've become the number
that you've given me.
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No matter how often you've been banged up,
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there's something about the moment
when that door shuts...
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and you're locked in
for the first time.
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It's impossible to get used to it.
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I know my prison number
from 30 years ago, MP3660.
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And I've just been given another one,
this time with an orange suit.
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So, I've become orange suit 669.
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That's who I am now.
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It must be 90 degrees in here,
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and with nothing but a list
of prison rules for company,
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I'm left to stew.
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Four people in this space with just a...
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And I hesitate to touch it,
but it's a bucket.
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I think, if this is a taste
of what I'm to expect
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when I'm taken out of this holding cell
and taken into the main population,
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I wonder if it's anything like this?
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The guards here look like
they mean business.
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Sharpshooters man the watchtowers.
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It's like a military operation.
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My final destination for today
is cellblock Tango 8/2.
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It houses prisoners awaiting trial.
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Even though I've
already been strip-searched?
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[Gillett] Yes, you go through it again.
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[Rowe] I'm told that 40% of all prisoners
at Belize Central are on remand...
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half of them for murder.
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To avoid violent conflict,
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inmates are segregated
according to gang loyalty.
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This is a Crip wing.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Rowe] I don't know what I was expecting
in Tango 8/2,
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but it certainly wasn't this.
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Hi, guys.
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[Rowe] What's up, man?
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You all right?
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Why've you got
your head sticking out of there?
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[Clive] Yeah, that's how we do it here.
See what I'm saying?
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-[Rowe] That's how you talk to each other.
-[Clive] Yeah.
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If you look down that side,
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you can see all of those guys
have their heads out as well.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Clive] We communicate
with each other right now.
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That's the way we do it here in jail,
all right?
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My name is Clive Jevan,
and it's a pleasure to meet you all.
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How long are you in for?
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[Clive] I'm here for approximately
four years and a half now.
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You've done four and a half years?
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Yeah, but I haven't been on trial.
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-How do they treat you?
-[Clive] I can't say rough.
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If we all decide to get treated rough,
it's because we caused it on ourselves.
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And if we go across the rules
and regulations of this facilitation,
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then we expect to be dealt with.
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[Rowe] But do you not feel
and do you not...
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As I'm looking at you
and all these other guys,
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it's like you're being reduced
to some kind of animal.
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The only way we can talk is if I get down
on my hands and knees...
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-Do you see what I'm saying?
-I understand you.
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I understand where you're coming from,
but...
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it's just the situation that we put
ourselves in, you know?
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We make our bed hard,
then we've got to sleep on it hard.
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-[Rowe] That's true.
-[Clive] See what I'm saying?
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Are you affiliated to a gang?
Is it gang-related or something else?
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Used to, but what I'm trying to do
right now is change my life.
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And with the Almighty by my side,
I know I'll be a free man one day again.
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[Rowe] Being thrust into a cell
with dangerous gang members
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is always gonna be tense.
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Banged up in a small space together
for 22 hours a day,
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it's crucial we hit it off.
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-Can I go in?
-Yeah, you can go in.
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-[Rowe] Hello, how are you doing?
-[Henry] Fine, you?
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[Rowe] I'm Raphael.
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How are you doing? I'm Raphael.
How are you? Raphael.
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-So, where's my bed?
-The one on top.
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This is my one, is it?
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I didn't get your names.
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-Gregory.
-Gregory.
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-Ryan.
-Ryan.
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-And Henry.
-Henry.
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In prison, the new con on the block
is seen as fair game,
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a fate I'm eager to avoid.
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I'm new. I'm coming into your cell,
into your space,
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so I need to know
what the in-cell rules are.
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If you're a cool person, just basically
keep to yourself, all right?
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[Henry] When it comes to
washing up and stuff,
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we wash our own dishes and stuff,
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our own personal stuff.
We wash our own clothes.
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But most people are under
the impression that
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when you come in as a newbie
and you get little...
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You know, guys give you things.
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It's because they want
something in return.
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The way we look at it, right?
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If you help somebody out,
and you give somebody something,
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like a newbie or something,
that's like a blessing to you.
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You never know what could happen.
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Later on, you might need something
and I got it,
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and I can just give it to you.
It's like that.
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I know that this is supposed to be a wing
of remand murderers or alleged murderers.
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-Um, is that what you're all in for?
-[Ryan] All of us.
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-[Rowe] How long have you been here?
-Six years and change. Six years.
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Six years?
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-On remand?
-On remand.
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-You haven't been convicted?
-No.
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[Gregory] This year, four years,
going for five.
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[Rowe] And what's your situation?
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I'm going to be frank and honest.
I was set up by the police.
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[Rowe] Are you saying
that you're innocent?
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-Yeah.
-You didn't commit the crime?
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[Gregory] No.
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And hopefully my trial comes up next year.
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It's pretty rough.
It's pretty rough, but...
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That's really tough.
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The one thing that stands out to me,
more than anything...
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was the length of time remand prisoners
are being held in these cells.
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They may well be guilty and deserve
the punishment that lays ahead,
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but right now,
they're innocent until proven guilty.
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And I know, more than anybody,
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what it's like to be sitting in a cell,
awaiting trial,
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especially when it's for something
you didn't do.
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Being locked up 22 hours a day,
for years on end, awaiting trial
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is seriously hard-core.
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And I'm wondering
if conditions in the rest of the prison
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are equally harsh.
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[man over speakers] When the
smoke cleared,
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Satan himself was standing at the podium.
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People panicked...
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[Rowe] 6:00 a.m. and Belize Central Prison
wakes to the sound of religious sermons,
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blaring out of speakers
across the compound.
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[man over speakers] Satan was appalled.
He says, "Lady, do you know who I am?"
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She said, "I sure do."
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[Rowe] After yet another pat down,
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I'm allowed out of the cellblock
for the first time
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to try and get a sense
of what makes this prison tick.
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[man over speakers] Hebrews 4 tells us
to enter into the rest of God.
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That's a place...
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[Rowe] There seems to be one thing
behind it all.
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And it's religion.
It's faith. It's spirituality,
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because that's what I'm beginning
to understand this prison is all about.
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[woman over speakers] This is
Jeremiah 33.3 FM.
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[Rowe] Jeremiah 33.3 is the prison's
very own radio station.
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It plays a selection of sermons
and religious music around the clock.
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It's a way of impregnating the minds
of all these prisoners about
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how God could be an influence
in their lives
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and turning their lives around.
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And I don't know
if that's a good or a bad thing.
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I haven't quite worked that one out yet.
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[man over speakers] "Jesus, wake up.
We're about to drown."
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He woke up...
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[Rowe] The second thing that strikes me
is that there's a lot of activity.
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Everywhere you go, inmates are busy.
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It's like a well-oiled machine.
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You get these little pat-down searches
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every time you go in or out
of a different part of the prison.
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I've been told to report to the kitchen,
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where I'll be working
alongside one of my new cell mates.
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-[Rowe] Gregory.
-[prisoner] Gregory?
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-[Rowe] Gregory.
-[prisoner] Right there.
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[Rowe] On the outside,
Gregory was a Crip gang member
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who'd been to prison seven times.
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Here, he's one of 32 prisoners
who help prepare, cook and serve
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three meals a day for all 1,300 inmates.
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Well, what's on the menu today, then?
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Today is fried chicken,
rice and beans, and gravy.
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-[Rowe] So, how can I help?
-Take this to the window.
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And you're not gonna give me
a ticket for it?
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-You got a ticket already.
-[Rowe] He got it already.
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How can I be sure
you gave me the right ticket?
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-I'm only kidding. I'm only kidding.
-[chuckles]
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I'd make a good supervisor, right?
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Being in prison awaiting trial is tough,
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but at least Gregory's not locked up
22 hours a day
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like many remand prisoners here.
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What was you doing before this job?
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Stay in my cell.
Get an hour and a half recreation a day.
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For you to get a job like this,
you must be quite a trusted prisoner.
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-Is it a privileged job?
-It is for me.
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So, do you have to...
Do you have to show you are responsible,
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or that you are conforming
to what the prison expects of you?
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Of course.
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When I just came, in 2013,
I enrolled myself in the ARC program.
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-[Rowe] The what program?
-[Gregory] The ARC.
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Ashcroft Rehabilitation Center.
It's a good program.
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It teaches you about socialization.
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It teaches you about anger management.
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My point of view is it helped me.
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That's good.
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So, this must be hard.
You've spent four years on remand.
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You haven't been to trial.
What keeps you going?
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[chuckles] Faith. Faith and hope.
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Do you mean your own internal faith,
or some kind of spiritual thing?
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Yeah, I believe in a higher power.
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-[Rowe] In God?
-God.
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[Rowe] Call me a cynic,
but I can't help wondering
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if having one of these privileged jobs
is dependent on having faith.
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So, this is your reward
after a hard day's work.
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Right, right.
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[Rowe] It's interesting,
'cause I saw so many prisoners,
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when I was in prison, turn to religion.
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Some of them come from gangs.
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That was taken away.
They were looking for something else.
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And what's the most powerful thing
offered in prison sometimes? Religion.
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[Gregory] Religion.
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You do believe in a god, though?
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-[Rowe] No, I don't.
-Serious?
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No, I don't.
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[Gregory] I always believed
in a higher being.
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I always put my trust in that higher being
before any human.
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[Rowe] But is that because your experience
with humans hasn't been a positive one?
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Yes.
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[Rowe] Gregory credits his transformation
to the prison's rehabilitation center.
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Here we go again.
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So I've volunteered to join the program.
335
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Is it like somewhere that a prisoner
will be taken over to on a daily basis?
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Or do they live in that environment
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until they've completed the course?
How does that work?
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Well, as so long as you come over to ARC,
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you will live in that environment
for a period of three to six months.
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Is it based on religion?
Is there a religious element to it?
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I do believe
that you can't correct bad with bad.
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It has to be, you know, the opposite.
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[Rowe] In charge of the rehab
is Pastor Burns.
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Nice to meet you, Mr. Burns. Raphael Rowe.
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[Burns] Welcome.
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[Rowe] I wanna go
on a rehabilitation center.
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I don't know what it is that I need to do,
so I'm guided by you.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Rowe] ARC uses the 12-step program
as the basis of its rehabilitation.
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Originally devised
for recovering alcoholics,
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the prison uses it to break addictions
like drugs, anger and criminal behavior.
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[prisoners applauding]
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[Rowe] And it starts by getting prisoners
to take responsibility for their crimes.
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Many men come here, and they don't want
to admit they have a problem,
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admit that they have anger,
admit that they have drugs addiction.
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Step one is for you
to admit to yourself and to God
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that, "I need change.
I want something different."
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[Rowe] I'm surprised when the meeting
is kicked off by Officer Gillett,
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the prison's transfer warden.
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I am saying to you young kings
that each and every one of you guys
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have the solution to the problems
that we are facing at hand.
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And we face these problems
on a daily basis.
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So, I am asking you young guys
that you dig deep within
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and start coming up with the solution
to every problem that we face.
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Starting now.
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-[Rowe] First to step forward is Ryan...
-[Burns speaking indistinctly]
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[Rowe] ...a former gang member,
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serving four years
for drug trafficking and possession.
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One of my biggest shortcomings
is I am mischievous.
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The street life was entertaining to me.
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So, I started selling weed,
and I made easy money.
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00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,520
But when I got arrested,
and I got four years and I come to jail,
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I realized, "How am I gonna live my life?"
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Every night, when I go to sleep,
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I feel pain,
because I don't get to be with my family.
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00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,920
I never realized how all my actions
have caused so much pain in my life.
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So now, I do whatever I can to change it.
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So, I encourage you all to let it out.
Let out all your shortcomings on God.
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[Rowe] This is tough.
I know from my time inside
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that the last thing an inmate wants to do
is admit weakness or look vulnerable,
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especially in front of other prisoners.
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I have a lot of issues
that I face every day, but I don't...
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[Rowe] But that's exactly what these guys
have to do here.
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I am responsible for all the consequences
and circumstances I face in my life.
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[Rowe] And now, it's my turn.
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Raphael Rowe, permission to talk?
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[prisoners exclaim in agreement]
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I myself spent 12 years in prison
for murder and robbery.
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The twist is I was innocent.
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And I was released.
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So, if I have one message
that I want to share with you,
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it's that even when you've been in prison
for a very long time,
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there is light at the end of the tunnel,
and I am a product of that light,
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because I made the decision
to change and do things differently.
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00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,480
Of course, here in Belize Central Prison,
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"the light" can have
a whole different meaning.
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Was you religious or faithful
when you were on the outside?
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No, no, no, no.
When I was small, I was a Christian.
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00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,320
But at the age of 12,
I was done with church.
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00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,720
Seeing all the men on the lanes selling
the weed, banging girls...
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00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,280
They got easy money.
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00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:03,440
Being in a gang-infested area,
that's what I thought life was about.
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And did you affiliate yourself
with a gang?
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00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,880
Peace in the Valley. It's a Blood gang.
That was the gang I grew up in.
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But being here
and getting to learn the 12 steps,
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it brought me closer to God,
and it helped me work on myself
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and have nothing to do with the streets.
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00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,400
[Rowe] ARC is at the heart
of the Kolbe regime,
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a place where these young kings
turn away from the violent street life
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and on to the path of righteousness.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Rowe] Where gang loyalty
becomes loyalty to God.
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-Amen.
-[all] Amen.
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[Rowe] These guys are in that room...
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every day from four, five o'clock
in the morning,
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through till eight o'clock at night.
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That's a long time,
and they get very little breaks.
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They say the right things
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because they're being taught
the terminology and the language.
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And in this prison,
it's the language of God.
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It's the language of embracing your faith.
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But if it works, it works.
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The carrot for the inmates
is that, once they've been through ARC,
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they become eligible
for one of those privileged jobs,
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and time out of their cells.
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This is phase two
of the prison's rehabilitation philosophy.
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This afternoon, I'm being sent
to the other side of the prison compound
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to work with a veteran of the ARC program,
named Francisco.
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-Francisco. Hi, I'm Raphael.
-Hi, Raphael.
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[Rowe] It's good to meet you.
I've been told by the guards
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that I've got to come and help you.
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00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,440
-We're going over to the pigpens.
-[Rowe] Okay.
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Raising their own pigs is
just part of the story.
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Today, much of the prison's 225-acre site
is given over to farmland,
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where prisoners grow vegetables
and raise livestock.
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Before Kolbe took over, the prison
couldn't afford to feed its inmates.
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00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,200
Now, with no extra cash
from the government,
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they produce 40% of the prison's food.
439
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,080
[pigs squealing]
440
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,000
How many pigs do you have in here?
441
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,280
We have 104 pigs here:
69 adult and 35 piglets.
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00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:21,200
[sow grunting]
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[Rowe] For Francisco, this job
isn't just about getting out of his cell.
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It's all part of his rehabilitation.
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00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,920
This job is helping me to think,
be responsible.
446
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,320
If I don't take care of these animals,
how am I going to take care of my family?
447
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,240
Did you struggle to take care
of your family when you was out?
448
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,760
-[Francisco] Well, I was an addict.
-An addict?
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00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,320
I've been 27 years in prison.
450
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,760
My drug addiction
has taken me a long way off.
451
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,240
I lost my loved ones.
452
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,840
I lost everything.
453
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,080
I find a chemical dependency
because of my addiction, which is anger.
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00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520
The 12-step program has enabled me to...
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to do a very, very profound
recharge of my life.
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00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,720
What sort of crimes did you commit?
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Extortion, robbery,
drug trafficking, murder.
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And I went to prison. I got caught.
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00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,600
This is where I started seeing the light.
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-Were you always a religious man?
-[Francisco] I was never.
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00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,200
So, you found religion in Belize Central?
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00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,920
[Francisco] Belize Central Prison.
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-[Rowe] So, you want me in?
-Yeah.
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-Am I scrubbing now?
-You scrub.
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00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,800
-[Rowe] I scrub.
-You scrub. They will move.
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[Rowe] Changing from
a drug-crazed murderer
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to a God-fearing pig farmer
is quite a transformation.
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00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,920
[pig squealing]
469
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,280
[Rowe] And keeping inmates
gainfully employed
470
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,880
is all part of the Kolbe master plan.
471
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:54,720
For Francisco, that means learning
to rear, kill and butcher his pigs.
472
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Daniel is the one who's going to actually
carry out the slaughtering.
473
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,880
[Rowe] The one with the knife in his hand?
474
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,200
[Francisco] Yeah.
475
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,680
[Rowe] Right, he looks like he can't wait.
476
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,760
Don't smile. You're about to chop a pig
or cut a pig's throat. [chuckles]
477
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040
-That's nothing to smile about.
-[Francisco] They do it laughing.
478
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,800
[Rowe] Where do I stand
so I don't get any blood all over me?
479
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,280
That's all I want to know.
480
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,880
-I'm safe there, am I?
-[Francisco] You're safe there.
481
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,400
-[Francisco] No, just... Just look.
-[Rowe] Jesus.
482
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,920
Oh, my God.
483
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,960
[Francisco] He's done.
484
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,640
[Rowe] That ain't over.
He's still kicking.
485
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,720
Man.
486
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,680
[pig groans]
487
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,840
Hey, come this side.
488
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,480
[water splashing]
489
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,360
-[Francisco] Come this side.
-Me?
490
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,360
It's taken him years, but Francisco's
conversion from crime to Christianity
491
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,800
seems to have paid off.
492
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,240
He's up for parole.
493
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,960
Twenty-seven years of my life
494
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,560
-being incarcerated.
-Yes.
495
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,600
You can imagine
that in less than a week's time,
496
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,000
I will be granted the opportunity
to be on the street.
497
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,400
-[Rowe] Do you think you're ready?
-[Francisco] I am.
498
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,120
Kolbe offers gainful employment
to ex-inmates.
499
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,200
-Okay.
-Society does not.
500
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,120
But that does not mean
that I cannot get a job.
501
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,720
I know how to slaughter. I might take $200
to get one of these pigs.
502
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,840
I slaughter a pig
the very first week that I'm out.
503
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,640
150 pounds at $4 a pound,
504
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,120
I make my first $300.
505
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:24,040
The 12-step program and the ARC curriculum
has taught me how to be self-employed.
506
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,120
[Rowe] It's hard not to be impressed
by this prison.
507
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,880
If it's not rearing animals
or growing their own food,
508
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,440
prisoners are learning metalwork
or carpentry skills.
509
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,760
To me, their emphasis on God
and Christianity feels a bit like a cult.
510
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,600
[indistinct announcement over speakers]
511
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,200
[Rowe] But it's hard to deny
that for those that embrace it,
512
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,280
the system seems to be working.
513
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,400
Surely, it can't be that easy to turn
these men around?
514
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520
These are convicted murderers
and hardened criminals.
515
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,080
Tomorrow, I'm gonna be spending time
with the guards.
516
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,080
And I'm particularly keen to see
how they deal with those prisoners
517
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,280
who don't buy into the Kolbe program.
518
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,520
It's 7:00 a.m.
519
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,280
And head of security Mr. Bennett
520
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,360
is briefing his officers
on the night's events.
521
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,680
-[Mr. Bennett] Good morning.
-[guards] Good morning, sir.
522
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,560
Last night, we had an officer, coming in
during a search area,
523
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,200
found trying to smuggle in
two cell phones.
524
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,840
That officer will be dealt with sometime
during the course of the day.
525
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,920
Likewise, last night, we had a fight
involving four inmates.
526
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Those inmates will be dealt with
this morning.
527
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,400
[Rowe] Corrupt guards,
prisoners fighting...
528
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,480
Maybe this prison does have a darker side.
529
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,320
And how do you personally feel
530
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,200
about the fact
that somebody you entrusted with the job,
531
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,200
and you've been guiding,
has broken the rules?
532
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,240
The cardinal rule of
"don't be corrupted by the prisoners"?
533
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320
It's so sad when we lose officers
because of corruption.
534
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,800
It is not what we want.
535
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,920
They have been trained
not to engage in those sort of activities.
536
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,040
You mentioned that the two prisoners
who got into an altercation last night...
537
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,280
What will happen to them?
What's the process now?
538
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,480
There will be an investigation.
539
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,520
More than likely, they'll be part of
the tribunal process coming this Thursday.
540
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,240
[Rowe] What's the punishment for fighting?
541
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,160
[Mr. Bennett] It varies.
542
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,920
Those inmates will probably be relocated
to Ad Seg because it was a fight.
543
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000
-[Rowe] What's Ad Seg?
-Ad Seg, Admin Segregation.
544
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,320
[Rowe] The tribunal is set for tomorrow,
545
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,800
and this is where the inmates
could end up:
546
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,240
the Ad Seg punishment block.
547
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,040
It sounds like somewhere I need to visit.
548
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,040
But first,
there's another briefing to attend.
549
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,920
This time with the prison's CEO
and superintendent, Mr. Murillo.
550
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,280
-[Rowe] So, he's the main man in charge?
-[Mr. Bennett] Yes.
551
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,920
He has a passion for this place.
552
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,680
When I say passion, a real passion
for this kind of environment.
553
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,560
When I took over this prison, remember,
we had serious, serious problems.
554
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,480
Our contraband was out of whack.
Corruption was rampant.
555
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120
[Rowe] Mr. Murillo has been in charge here
for three years,
556
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320
after working his way up
from prison accountant.
557
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,600
[Murillo] Listen, as a prison leader,
558
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,080
you need to know
all the relevant human rights laws,
559
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,000
what you can and cannot do.
560
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,560
I was challenged the other day
561
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,920
when I started sending
repeat offender to Ad Seg,
562
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,400
challenged by lawyers,
challenged by everybody.
563
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Ombudsman, everybody.
564
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,800
But at the end of the day,
I know the human rights laws.
565
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,920
I'm not violating anybody's laws.
566
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,360
Well, that was quite inspiring.
567
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,960
Their leader, Mr. Murillo,
the man who runs this ship.
568
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,600
He's quite a charismatic,
569
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,240
very respected leader
amongst his senior staff.
570
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Because there will be times,
prisoners come to prison.
571
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,480
They will want to break the rules.
572
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,840
They will want to carry out
the same kind of shenanigans...
573
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,400
He is in total control.
He makes the decisions and people follow.
574
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,440
[Rowe] Be interesting meeting
and talking to him
575
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,920
about the methods he uses
to control and run this prison.
576
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,480
If I get the chance,
I will definitely be asking Mr. Murillo
577
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,520
for a tour of Ad Seg to find out
why it's so controversial.
578
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Good morning.
579
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,040
But today, I'm heading back
to my remand block, Tango 8/2,
580
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,240
where three wardens
guard around 100 prisoners.
581
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,800
-Good morning, Mr. Petillo.
-Yes, good morning.
582
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,600
-How are you?
-I'm doing fine. Glad to meet you.
583
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,200
[Rowe] Despite being locked up
22 hours a day,
584
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,480
inmates here still manage
to break the rules.
585
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,760
As officers,
how do you maintain discipline?
586
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,960
[Petillo] These guys understand
if you commit an infraction
587
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,360
within the housing unit,
there are penalties.
588
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,320
Right. And have you had any prisoners
breaking rules recently?
589
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,120
On Saturday, after the visit,
one of the guys refused to be searched.
590
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,720
One of us officers suspected him
of having some contraband.
591
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,200
When he was called to be searched, he ran.
Immediately, that rings a bell.
592
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,160
-"Why do you run?"
-[chuckles] Of course.
593
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,640
Because maybe he's hidden some contraband.
594
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,800
[Rowe] Where is he now?
What happened to him?
595
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,760
[Petillo] He's in lockdown.
He's awaiting tribunal.
596
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,360
-[Rowe] Can you show me that?
-[Petillo] We're heading there right now.
597
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,880
-[Rowe] What do you call it?
-[Petillo] The Iron Curtain.
598
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,440
[Rowe] The man currently behind
the Iron Curtain...
599
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,960
Good morning. How are you doing?
600
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,040
...is called Armando.
601
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,680
A little bit of light.
I heard you're in a bit of trouble.
602
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,800
What's it feel like being in there?
It looks quite...
603
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,520
-Dark. It's dark in here.
-[Rowe] It's dark.
604
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,960
Iron bed, and it hurt up your ribs,
and it digs.
605
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,160
How does this differ from a normal cell?
606
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,360
'Cause this is a semi-punishment cell...
607
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,159
Rough, rough.
I've been in here seven days already.
608
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,639
On Saturday, seven days. Seven, six days?
609
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,400
[Rowe] You've lost count of time already?
610
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,280
Yeah. Rough, rough.
611
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,440
I think this should be
the punishment right here.
612
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,000
I mean, they still want to punish you
more, more and more.
613
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,320
-So, you're in there 24 hours a day?
-Yeah.
614
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,400
-[Rowe] That's punishment enough?
-Yeah.
615
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,600
[Rowe chuckles] I think most people
would agree with you.
616
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:35,520
Yeah.
617
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,320
But you get your... I'm told you get
your chance to defend yourself
618
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,679
or argue your case at the tribunal
when you go there.
619
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,520
-Why you did...
-Yes, I'll fight my case there.
620
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,360
Well, good luck. I hope you survive it.
621
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,600
-Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
-Okay. Take care.
622
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,199
[cell door locking]
623
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,600
[Rowe] I don't know what you call this,
624
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:58,840
but standing here, watching this guy
being put in this space...
625
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,560
Those cells are bad enough,
but this is terrifying.
626
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,640
They've got two padlocks on.
It's bolted. It's an iron...
627
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:06,760
It's like something out of a movie.
628
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,960
It looks like seven days in there
has terrorized him as a human being.
629
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,240
If that's what they have to do
to control these guys,
630
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,600
that's what they have to do,
and they obviously know better than I do.
631
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,600
Um, whether it's right
is another question.
632
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,920
Zero tolerance of any rule-breaking
633
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,600
is how the guards at Belize Central
maintain control.
634
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,400
And if the Ad Seg punishment block
is as brutal as the Iron Curtain,
635
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,640
it must act as a pretty fierce deterrent.
636
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,240
I want to see for myself
how punishment works in this prison.
637
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,480
So today,
I'm attending the weekly tribunal.
638
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,320
Here, inmates accused of breaking
the rules wait to have their cases heard.
639
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,320
A three-man panel
will decide their fate.
640
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,760
Among the 30 men assembled
641
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,400
are the two prisoners
charged with fighting.
642
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,680
If found guilty, they face
being locked up in Admin Segregation.
643
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,240
Prison CEO Mr. Murillo is also here,
644
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,880
and I take the chance
to ask him about Ad Seg.
645
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,240
[Murillo] It just literally means
that you are segregated,
646
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,600
and all of your privileges that
you would have if you were behaving good,
647
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,400
and if you don't get into trouble,
is being removed.
648
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Does it work?
649
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,960
-[Murillo] It definitely works.
-How do you know it works?
650
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,400
I know it works because I've been testing
the recidivism in that area,
651
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,080
and it's not the same people
going back there.
652
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,320
At the end of the day,
my story to them has always been,
653
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,280
"You have yourself there, not me.
654
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,280
I am just enforcing
the laws and the rules."
655
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,600
There's a side to you
that I find really interesting,
656
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,720
that you won't take any BS, if you like.
657
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,960
"I'll be straight with you.
I'll be fair with you.
658
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,040
But you mess with the rules,
you break the rules,
659
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,160
I'm going to punish you.
I'm going to show you the consequences."
660
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,720
Is that you? Is that how it works?
661
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,840
-Tough love.
-[Rowe] Yes.
662
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,840
Tough love, even with my own children.
Tough love.
663
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,440
I'm going to give you the opportunities
and work with you.
664
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,200
But you're not gonna play games with me.
It doesn't work.
665
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,640
[Rowe] What would the guys down there
say that they've learned?
666
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:19,560
You could learn that from them,
'cause they were there a few days ago.
667
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,240
-[Rowe] They've already been down?
-They have.
668
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,680
They've waited there for the last week.
You can ask them.
669
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Can I go to Ad Seg
and see how this works down there?
670
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,720
That's out of bounds.
Ad Seg is out of bounds.
671
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,640
You can't take me down
and show me how this...
672
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,000
-No.
-...part of the prison works?
673
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,240
-You won't take me there?
-Not to Ad Seg.
674
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,760
You and the prison sound
very proud of the fact
675
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480
that they use this as a sanction,
as they do other things.
676
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,880
-So, what is there to hide down there?
-[Murillo] It's total deprivation.
677
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,160
And I'm just saying, as a superintendent,
678
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,120
that I won't want you to go there,
and I'll stick with that.
679
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,960
-[Rowe] Right. Okay.
-Yeah.
680
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,800
[Rowe] I know that, at Belize Central,
total deprivation means 24-hour lockdown.
681
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,480
If Mr. Murillo won't show me Ad Seg,
I can at least hear about it.
682
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,560
The reason they will never
take you back there in Ad Seg
683
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,360
is because you will see it's somewhere
inhumane for humans to live.
684
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,520
How would it look
seeing humans sleeping on concrete?
685
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,000
When we eat, we don't get no nutrients.
686
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,760
Sometimes you're hitting your hand,
687
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,160
and you're killing
five, six mosquitoes at once.
688
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,400
[prisoner] Coming from using a toilet
in the building...
689
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,440
to stooling, to shitting, and urinating
and defecating in a slop bucket,
690
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,320
with other guys in the cell...
691
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,520
[prisoner] And Mr. Murillo
thinks it's punishing us
692
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,040
-that is going to make us straight.
-[indistinct chatter]
693
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,200
It gives us an embedded anger that...
694
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,360
I've even contemplated suicide
being in that spot, man.
695
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,280
[indistinct chatter]
696
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,560
[Rowe] Mr. Murillo says it's tough love.
697
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,680
He says that he's doing
the best thing he can
698
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,920
to make you better citizens
for when you go outside.
699
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,120
That's what he says.
700
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,560
[prisoner] He also said
he's the god of the prison.
701
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,320
The god?
702
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,440
The god. G-O-D.
That mean whatever he says goes.
703
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,920
[indistinct chatter]
704
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,320
[Rowe] For these inmates,
the stakes are high.
705
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,480
It's time for the two guys
accused of fighting to face the music.
706
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,600
Anthony Carbayo.
707
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,240
I have a charge here
of committing an assault,
708
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,520
contrary to the Prisons Act Chapter 139,
by kicking and punching him.
709
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,800
-How do you plead?
-[Anthony] Guilty.
710
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,560
[officer] Do you have any explanation?
711
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,280
Yes, sir. This altercation
started from when me...
712
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,360
[Rowe] It's really interesting.
713
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,720
I've seen myself stand behind
that yellow line on numerous occasions,
714
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,080
where I'm trying
to convince the adjudicator,
715
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120
or the tribunal in this case,
that "I didn't do it, guv."
716
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,360
-...here, Mr. Young.
-[Rowe] "It wasn't me, guv."
717
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,240
Trying to convince this person
who has their fate in their hands.
718
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,560
[indistinct chatter]
719
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,480
[Rowe] Am I gonna go and spend time
in isolation, segregation,
720
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520
or in this case, the Ad Seg.
721
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,600
That's what's at stake here
for most of these guys.
722
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,200
Now, this charge is one sanction
for one to three months.
723
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,800
I will not give you one month.
724
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,680
But I won't give you three, either.
725
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,840
You'll be getting two months
full sanction, lockdown at Ad Seg.
726
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,640
You understand?
727
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,960
[Rowe] Two months?
728
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,760
That can't be about changing somebody
and making them...
729
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,440
That is hard. I mean, what more can I say?
That is really hard. Fucking hard.
730
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,720
The prisoners found guilty
of breaking the rules
731
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,760
are marched off to Ad Seg.
732
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,400
[Murillo] That's your place
you're interested in seeing, Ad Seg.
733
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,920
[Rowe] That's that building
down the bottom?
734
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,600
[Murillo] That's Ad Seg right there.
735
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,280
[Rowe] Inmates here might see Mr. Murillo
as the god of the prison,
736
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,680
but is he a just god or a vengeful one?
737
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480
Do you think that Belizean society
738
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,360
want their brothers, sons,
you know, parents
739
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,280
to be treated in this way
when they break the rules?
740
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,400
I need to make something
very crystal clear here.
741
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,200
Nothing that is happening here
is against the Prisons Act, okay?
742
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,600
If they've been through the programs
that are so successful
743
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,880
and it's not worked for them,
744
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,440
maybe there's something wrong
with the programs.
745
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,120
[Murillo] Maybe they were born criminals.
746
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,200
Remember, they are street--
747
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,400
[Rowe] Is there such a thing?
No child is born--
748
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Mr. Murillo, you're an intelligent man.
749
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,280
-No child can be born a criminal.
-I have...
750
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,280
I'm just saying maybe.
751
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,640
-You hear the word I used? Maybe.
-Okay.
752
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:30,680
[Murillo] We're putting them
with a class of their own,
753
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,160
so they cannot contaminate each other,
754
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,400
because they are birds of a feather.
They are flocking together.
755
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,240
Hopefully, this time around,
they'll get their act together.
756
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,800
They'll go back out into society,
and they'll think differently
757
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,480
and not want to come back to the prison.
758
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,480
People should not look forward
to coming to prison.
759
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,440
Prison should not be an option.
760
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,640
Prison should not be an option for nobody,
no matter what your circumstance is.
761
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,160
That's what I am saying.
762
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,920
But if I make prison a bed of roses,
that is what will happen.
763
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,320
The jail will be filled up. Big time.
764
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,280
[man over speakers] If these disciples
had seen Jesus heal the...
765
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,960
[Rowe] It may not breach Belizean law,
766
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,920
but I'm still not sure about
Mr. Murillo's tough love philosophy.
767
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,480
What I do know is that months
of total lockdown in Ad Seg
768
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,840
will leave prisoners vulnerable,
physically and mentally.
769
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,000
[man over speakers] Feed your
inner person.
770
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,800
[Rowe] My next stop
during my time with the guards...
771
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,200
is Tango 7, a medium-security block
for inmates convicted of crimes
772
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,120
including gang-related violence
and murder.
773
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,320
-[Rowe] How are you doing?
-[prisoner] Good morning.
774
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,480
Where do I go? Where's the entrance?
775
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,600
-Just...
-[Rowe] In here.
776
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,080
So, I'm looking for Mr. Turner.
777
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,440
So, he's through here, right? Okay.
778
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,360
The warden, Mr. Turner,
dictates how this block is run.
779
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,240
The prophets, even from Genesis...
780
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,760
[translating in other language]
781
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,720
[Turner] ...have gone through the fires.
782
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,520
[translating in other language]
783
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,800
All types of trials and temptations.
784
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:04,040
[Rowe] Every day,
Mr. Turner tries to inspire change
785
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,400
in his errant flock of gang members
and murderers.
786
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,880
And who is left to do those trials?
The usurper, Lucifer.
787
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,960
And God allows that...
788
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,240
[Rowe] More preacher than prison guard,
789
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,880
Mr. Turner uses
his own brand of evangelical Christianity
790
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,960
to get the administration's
message across.
791
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,200
We are tired of doing things
Lucifer's way.
792
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,560
[translating in other language]
793
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,400
We want to do things Jesus' way.
794
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,480
-Amen.
-[all] Amen.
795
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,120
[Rowe] I'm no expert,
but, to me, it feels like brainwashing.
796
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
What percentage of these prisoners have,
do you think,
797
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,640
embraced God since you've come in
and taken over, and those that have not?
798
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,800
I would say we are about 60% to 65%.
799
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Is your ideal to reach 100%?
800
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,320
Not just in Tango 7, but across
the whole of this prison complex?
801
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,760
That's the entire idea here.
This prison is spiritually-based.
802
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Only God can give us patience
to deal with this situation.
803
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,880
[Rowe] What's your thoughts about Ad Seg?
804
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,400
Because for me,
that is the ultimate punishment.
805
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,840
It feels the prison is run on fear,
fear of being punished.
806
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,240
Some of the things that are happening,
807
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,960
they are keeping them
for a long period of time.
808
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,200
I do believe that, at some point,
it could defeat the purpose.
809
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,520
But even we need to understand
how to deal with Ad Seg
810
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,840
and the guys that have to be placed there.
811
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,240
I'm sure our superintendent
is looking into these things.
812
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,320
What sort of characters
are coming back to the wing?
813
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,280
Are you seeing angry beast?
Are you seeing guys that have been broken?
814
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,480
What kind of guys are coming back?
815
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:58,400
Some of them come back, you know...
They look weary. They look tired.
816
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Now, that is my moment.
817
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,920
You see, those are the moments
that I need to...
818
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,200
embrace them.
819
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,480
And let them know,
"Hey, as bad as it was, remember this:
820
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,280
Jesus was placed on that cross there
for no reason."
821
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,760
We are here on a mission.
822
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,760
The mission is to try
to help somebody to change.
823
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,720
[Rowe] It's clear that in this
evangelically Christian environment,
824
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200
ideas of redemption are never far away.
825
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,480
But, to me, this feels less like rebirth
and more like reprogramming.
826
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,600
Whether they've seen the light
or are just desperate to avoid Ad Seg,
827
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,840
for those that do get with the program,
the rewards are tangible.
828
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,920
For my final day at Belize Central Prison,
829
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,040
I'm back in orange
to join the chopping crew.
830
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,680
Is this my seat?
831
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,200
It turns out that chopping
involves a bunch of trusted inmates
832
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,040
being bused out of the prison
to cut grass...
833
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
today at a local school.
834
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,080
To do it, they use very large
and very sharp machetes.
835
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,240
There's a lot of trust put in these guys
to come in and do this.
836
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,160
These guys are picking up
some big knives. [chuckles]
837
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Is this my one?
838
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,440
Look at this. I hesitate to touch it
with my finger.
839
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,040
[indistinct chatter]
840
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Raphael, come inside.
841
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,080
[Rowe] Mr. Turner expressed reservations
about the effectiveness of Ad Seg.
842
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,320
I want to meet
those who have experienced it,
843
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,040
and hear what they think
of Belize Prison's tough love philosophy.
844
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,520
I think I've got a blunt sword.
845
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,280
-How long have you been doing this?
-[Eric] Five years.
846
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,400
Five years! I'm five seconds.
847
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,880
I want a lawnmower.
848
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,520
My chopping partner, Eric,
is doing 15 years for manslaughter,
849
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,520
and tells me he's an Ad Seg veteran.
850
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,680
Do you think you've changed
in ten years in prison?
851
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Yes. When I came to this institution,
I was a person...
852
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,520
We couldn't be having this chat
if I was the same person as back then.
853
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,480
-[Rowe] Why?
-[Eric] I was very aggressive.
854
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,200
The way we grew up... We grew up
in a place that was run by gangs.
855
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,680
That's how we were raised.
And everything in the street...
856
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,280
You gotta be someone tough
to get what you want.
857
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,200
That's why here, when I came to jail,
I was in lot of trouble.
858
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,680
[Rowe] What changed you?
859
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,960
[Eric] All these years
that I've been here,
860
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,640
I've been to all the lockdowns
within the prison.
861
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:43,960
I've been to Ad Seg.
862
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,560
You're living in a place that there's
no breeze, no light, no nothing.
863
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,680
That's total lockdown.
864
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,160
All those things let me realize that...
865
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,560
it's not paying
for all the trouble I'm giving.
866
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Mr. Murillo will say you're a product
of the type of prison that he runs
867
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,240
because he says he will give you
the opportunity to change.
868
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,600
And if you don't, he'll punish you
and make you change.
869
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,720
[Eric] Yeah, that's what I'm telling you.
870
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,480
I've shown them
I've gotten away from all that negativity.
871
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,200
I'm trying to perceive now.
872
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,760
Sometimes, you need a little punishment
to realize, right,
873
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,760
your mistakes that you're doing.
874
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,480
[Rowe] Despite my reservations
about harsh punishments
875
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,040
like Ad Seg and the Iron Curtain,
Eric seems to be living proof
876
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,880
that Mr. Murillo's carrot
and very large stick approach can work.
877
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,760
And he's not alone.
878
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,320
Since Kolbe took over,
879
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:45,080
the re-offending rate
has apparently dropped from 73% to 23%.
880
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,200
When I first arrived here, a week ago,
I was pretty skeptical about this place.
881
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,120
[prisoners singing hymn]
882
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,840
[Rowe] To me, it felt more like
a religious cult than a prison.
883
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,080
[singing hymn]
884
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,760
[Rowe] I'm still not sure what I think
about their hard-line methods.
885
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,360
But after meeting
apparently reformed characters
886
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,000
and seeing rival gang members
coming together at Mr. Turner's sermons...
887
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,680
[singing and clapping]
888
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,560
[Rowe] I have to admit that they seem
to be doing something right.
889
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,000
My time here
at Belize Central is now over.
890
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,960
Faith is at the heart
of how they rehabilitate their prisoners.
891
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,960
God is used to motivate and to inspire,
and for many it actually works.
892
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,520
But for those who rebel or re-offend,
there is no mercy.