1 00:00:10,227 --> 00:00:12,490 MAN: So, you should ask yourself, 2 00:00:12,534 --> 00:00:14,144 with every decision you make, 3 00:00:14,188 --> 00:00:15,580 is this good for the V.A.? 4 00:00:15,624 --> 00:00:18,975 Am I helping with the V.A.'s strategic vision? 5 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:21,934 Now, my guess is you're all asking the same question. 6 00:00:21,978 --> 00:00:24,633 With our new administration, will you still have a job? 7 00:00:24,676 --> 00:00:28,724 But I want you to ask a slightly different question. 8 00:00:28,767 --> 00:00:32,597 Will my job still have me? 9 00:00:32,641 --> 00:00:33,903 Am I the right fit 10 00:00:33,946 --> 00:00:35,905 to continue fulfilling my duties 11 00:00:35,948 --> 00:00:37,298 to the best of my ability 12 00:00:37,341 --> 00:00:40,562 for the greater good of the company? 13 00:00:40,605 --> 00:00:43,869 We just want to make sure that we have some new staff in place 14 00:00:43,913 --> 00:00:47,699 to have things run a little bit more smoothly around here. 15 00:00:47,743 --> 00:00:49,092 I want to be clear: 16 00:00:49,136 --> 00:00:52,139 politics will not enter into any of my decisions. 17 00:00:52,182 --> 00:00:53,705 [whispers]: Bullshit. 18 00:00:53,749 --> 00:00:55,055 We've had a late start, 19 00:00:55,098 --> 00:00:57,187 mostly due to the delayed presidential transition. 20 00:00:57,231 --> 00:00:58,667 I'm sure you've heard about that. 21 00:00:58,710 --> 00:01:01,278 No hard feelings. Huh? [chuckles] 22 00:01:03,541 --> 00:01:05,282 I'll probably head back to D.C. 23 00:01:05,326 --> 00:01:07,893 Everybody says the Trump connection hurts us. 24 00:01:07,937 --> 00:01:09,286 How about you? 25 00:01:09,330 --> 00:01:12,159 If they want me, I'll stay on here. 26 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:17,164 MAN: What? 27 00:01:20,515 --> 00:01:22,212 Kurt? 28 00:01:29,219 --> 00:01:30,742 Leo's Bike Shop. 29 00:01:30,786 --> 00:01:32,396 LIZ: That was the name of your business? 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,530 Yes. My grandfather came over from Holland after World War II, 31 00:01:35,573 --> 00:01:36,661 Got a loan, opened it. 32 00:01:36,705 --> 00:01:38,098 My family's run it for 60 years. 33 00:01:38,141 --> 00:01:40,448 -Until last year? -Yes. We had to close down. 34 00:01:40,491 --> 00:01:42,145 -Why? -Her. 35 00:01:42,189 --> 00:01:43,364 MAN: Your Honor, I must object. 36 00:01:43,407 --> 00:01:46,628 My client is not the direct causal reason 37 00:01:46,671 --> 00:01:48,151 for this man's business to close. 38 00:01:48,195 --> 00:01:51,589 Counselor, what is the violation to the rules of evidence? 39 00:01:51,633 --> 00:01:53,025 Inflammatory? 40 00:01:53,069 --> 00:01:55,027 -Nope. Overruled. -Exception. 41 00:01:55,071 --> 00:01:57,160 -[sighs] Mr. Rahtenberg... -Rottenberg, Your Honor. 42 00:01:57,204 --> 00:01:59,597 You don't have to keep saying "exception." 43 00:01:59,641 --> 00:02:00,990 If you go to a higher court, 44 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:02,339 they're going to take it for granted 45 00:02:02,383 --> 00:02:04,124 that you're taking exception with my rulings. 46 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,169 -Please, continue. -LIZ: Why are you saying 47 00:02:06,213 --> 00:02:08,476 that the defendant, Ms. Marina Beck, 48 00:02:08,519 --> 00:02:10,173 was the reason that your business closed? 49 00:02:10,217 --> 00:02:11,827 She was a neighbor who got angry when I parked 50 00:02:11,870 --> 00:02:15,047 in front of her house. She felt the front curb was hers, 51 00:02:15,091 --> 00:02:17,659 so she started harassing my family and my business. 52 00:02:17,702 --> 00:02:20,444 Objection to harassment. It calls for a conclusion. 53 00:02:20,488 --> 00:02:23,230 No, sir. No. The witness is answering. 54 00:02:23,273 --> 00:02:26,320 He's not the questioner. Improper objection. 55 00:02:26,363 --> 00:02:28,539 -Exception. -Yes, excepted. 56 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:32,195 -Please continue. -Now, how did the defendant harass you and your business? 57 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:33,805 Online. We found out from a friend 58 00:02:33,849 --> 00:02:35,851 there was an article on her newsfeed 59 00:02:35,894 --> 00:02:37,896 about me molesting a boy at the local school. 60 00:02:37,940 --> 00:02:39,463 -LIZ: And it was untrue? -Yes, completely. 61 00:02:39,507 --> 00:02:41,291 But it looked real. And there were 62 00:02:41,335 --> 00:02:43,337 photos of me. -LIZ: And you also discovered that 63 00:02:43,380 --> 00:02:46,427 -she had created a news article? -Yes. 64 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:48,820 And how do you know that Ms. Beck created that article? 65 00:02:48,864 --> 00:02:51,127 We hired an Internet forensic specialist. 66 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:52,520 It wasn't just an article. 67 00:02:52,563 --> 00:02:55,914 She created 20 different social media accounts 68 00:02:55,958 --> 00:02:59,004 of supposed parents who accused me of touching their children. 69 00:02:59,048 --> 00:03:00,223 And this caused you to lose business? 70 00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:01,790 Many people saw our business name 71 00:03:01,833 --> 00:03:03,313 on that website, Business Scoundrels, 72 00:03:03,357 --> 00:03:05,141 where she accused me of pedophilia. 73 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:07,099 If you look for my name online, that's all that comes up: 74 00:03:07,143 --> 00:03:09,450 articles and discussions about me molesting children. 75 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:11,408 And that's why you're suing, Mr. Van De Berg? 76 00:03:11,452 --> 00:03:13,193 Yes, I want the harassments to stop. 77 00:03:13,236 --> 00:03:15,020 She's still posting ugly things about my family. 78 00:03:15,064 --> 00:03:16,326 Even today. 79 00:03:16,370 --> 00:03:18,676 But I'm also suing for my loss of business. 80 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,287 Nothing further, Your Honor. 81 00:03:21,070 --> 00:03:24,247 Sir, why didn't you apply to get your name removed 82 00:03:24,291 --> 00:03:26,031 -from those websites? -I did. 83 00:03:26,075 --> 00:03:27,381 -Not hard enough, apparently. -Business Scoundrels 84 00:03:27,424 --> 00:03:29,078 would only remove the accusations 85 00:03:29,121 --> 00:03:30,340 if I paid a $10,000 service fee. 86 00:03:30,384 --> 00:03:32,734 And isn't your good name worth $10,000? 87 00:03:32,777 --> 00:03:35,432 I didn't want to pay it because it was extortion. 88 00:03:35,476 --> 00:03:37,434 They accept vile accusations without proof 89 00:03:37,478 --> 00:03:39,654 and then want to charge me to take them down? 90 00:03:39,697 --> 00:03:42,004 Okay, okay, I've heard enough. 91 00:03:42,047 --> 00:03:44,224 Let's bring it up here. 92 00:03:44,267 --> 00:03:46,313 Not you, just the lawyers. 93 00:03:48,184 --> 00:03:51,709 Okay, Mr. Rahtenberg, you're going to lose. 94 00:03:51,753 --> 00:03:53,015 Rottenberg. 95 00:03:53,058 --> 00:03:54,321 You have been biased against my name 96 00:03:54,364 --> 00:03:56,584 -from the beginning, ma'am. -No, sir. 97 00:03:56,627 --> 00:03:58,629 You have a rotten case, 98 00:03:58,673 --> 00:04:00,718 and an awful client. 99 00:04:00,762 --> 00:04:04,287 What I would suggest you do is negotiate a fair settlement. 100 00:04:04,331 --> 00:04:05,680 Because if you come back here 101 00:04:05,723 --> 00:04:08,465 it's gonna cost you twice as much. That's it. 102 00:04:08,509 --> 00:04:10,293 [gavel bangs] 103 00:04:10,337 --> 00:04:12,643 -Tomorrow at my office? -Sure. 104 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:15,603 Let's the paperwork together for a settlement. 105 00:04:15,646 --> 00:04:17,213 On it. 106 00:04:19,171 --> 00:04:20,434 We need the paperwork for a settlement. 107 00:04:20,477 --> 00:04:21,957 Keep track of your billable hours. 108 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,611 On it. 109 00:04:24,394 --> 00:04:26,004 You two go through the billing, 110 00:04:26,048 --> 00:04:27,397 and you two double-check their work. 111 00:04:27,441 --> 00:04:29,921 Oh, and keep track of your hours. 112 00:04:33,838 --> 00:04:36,319 Split these up into piles for every month for every year, 113 00:04:36,363 --> 00:04:38,626 and keep an accounting of the totals. 114 00:04:39,975 --> 00:04:42,194 Let's get to it. 115 00:04:44,501 --> 00:04:45,937 [door closes] 116 00:04:45,981 --> 00:04:47,199 Things should get better, right? 117 00:04:47,243 --> 00:04:49,637 Something other than paperwork? 118 00:04:51,029 --> 00:04:52,727 Law of averages. 119 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:54,816 You. What's your name? 120 00:04:54,859 --> 00:04:56,078 Carmen Moyo. 121 00:04:56,121 --> 00:04:57,862 -Let's go. -CARMEN: Uh, I was told 122 00:04:57,906 --> 00:04:58,907 to collate these bills. 123 00:04:59,777 --> 00:05:02,258 Did the executive partner tell you to collate those bills? 124 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:03,781 -No. -DAVID: Right, 125 00:05:03,825 --> 00:05:05,653 because that's me. Let's go. 126 00:05:13,051 --> 00:05:14,705 Great. 127 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:17,273 -Why am I supposed to know you? -Uh, I don't know if you are. 128 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,231 Why does Benjamin Dafoe know you? 129 00:05:19,275 --> 00:05:20,624 I don't know who that is. 130 00:05:20,668 --> 00:05:23,410 Oh, my God. Law school illiteracy. 131 00:05:24,889 --> 00:05:26,064 [door opens] 132 00:05:26,108 --> 00:05:27,283 Is this her? 133 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,241 Carmen Moyo, as requested. 134 00:05:29,285 --> 00:05:32,462 [sighs] I don't understand. Who are you? 135 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:36,074 -Carmen Moyo. -No. No, no. 136 00:05:36,118 --> 00:05:38,381 -Why are you important? -I don't think that I am. 137 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:41,297 Then why do I have my top client asking for you? 138 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:43,995 -Who's that? -Mr. Wolfe-Coleman. 139 00:05:45,432 --> 00:05:47,912 Y-Your client is Wolfe-Coleman. 140 00:05:47,956 --> 00:05:49,392 Hmm. W-What does he need? 141 00:05:49,436 --> 00:05:51,307 BENJAMIN: Last night, the police searched his home 142 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:53,527 for any evidence of rape. They believe they found something 143 00:05:53,570 --> 00:05:55,572 and Mr. Wolfe-Coleman wanted me to contact 144 00:05:55,616 --> 00:05:59,228 Carmen Moyo to represent him. So... 145 00:05:59,271 --> 00:06:00,621 how did that happen? 146 00:06:01,883 --> 00:06:05,147 I-Is your client an acquaintance of Oscar Rivi? 147 00:06:05,974 --> 00:06:07,410 The drug dealer? No. 148 00:06:08,237 --> 00:06:10,370 Is your client... 149 00:06:10,413 --> 00:06:12,197 is your client currently at Menard Correctional? 150 00:06:12,241 --> 00:06:14,635 He was, yes. Why? 151 00:06:14,678 --> 00:06:16,376 I'm representing Mr. Rivi. 152 00:06:18,465 --> 00:06:19,770 [laughs] 153 00:06:19,814 --> 00:06:21,555 Carmen's one of our best. 154 00:06:21,598 --> 00:06:26,037 Uh, why don't we get the retainer agreement going, Ben? 155 00:06:28,692 --> 00:06:30,346 ♪ 156 00:06:47,668 --> 00:06:49,191 Oh, good. Go home. 157 00:06:49,234 --> 00:06:51,019 I'll have the rest of the bills ready to sort tomorrow. 158 00:06:51,062 --> 00:06:52,281 The rest? 159 00:06:52,324 --> 00:06:54,196 Yeah. This is half. 160 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:57,417 [sighs] 161 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,392 ♪ 162 00:07:35,890 --> 00:07:37,892 MAN: I couldn't have stolen anything. 163 00:07:37,935 --> 00:07:41,243 I wrote my book before Emily in Pariswas even on the air. 164 00:07:41,286 --> 00:07:43,941 -WOMAN: That doesn't mean you couldn't have gotten a copy. -Hey! Welcome to Night Court. 165 00:07:43,985 --> 00:07:45,552 -Missed you. -WOMAN: Emails get hacked every day. 166 00:07:45,595 --> 00:07:47,336 MAN: Oh, come on. I never read 167 00:07:47,379 --> 00:07:49,469 her stupid book, and her book is just a rip-off anyway. 168 00:07:49,512 --> 00:07:51,601 There are lines that are identical, Your Honor. 169 00:07:51,645 --> 00:07:54,038 Because they're lines from Emily in Paris. 170 00:07:54,082 --> 00:07:55,475 What is this one about? 171 00:07:55,518 --> 00:07:57,564 That guy says she plagiarized his book. 172 00:07:57,607 --> 00:08:00,523 -Copyright laws, interesting. -Here, here, here, here. 173 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:02,830 -Here's the program. -WOMAN: You've got to be kidding me. 174 00:08:02,873 --> 00:08:04,527 -MAN: No. I said that, out loud. WOMAN: You plagiarized from Emily in Paris. 175 00:08:04,571 --> 00:08:06,181 I've never even read the book. 176 00:08:06,224 --> 00:08:07,617 These are actual books? 177 00:08:07,661 --> 00:08:09,750 Self-published. Fan fiction. 178 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:11,882 WOMAN: Oh, come on. I know you've got a reputation for doing this, 179 00:08:11,926 --> 00:08:13,884 -and I'm not gonna let you... -No, 'cause what I said... 180 00:08:13,928 --> 00:08:16,452 Okay. All right, Stop, stop, stop. That's it. I get it. 181 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:18,715 WOMAN: Your Honor, this is not a small matter. 182 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:21,065 Look at Fifty Shades of Gray. That started as fan fiction. 183 00:08:21,109 --> 00:08:22,763 Okay. 184 00:08:22,806 --> 00:08:24,068 I'm taking a recess. 185 00:08:24,112 --> 00:08:25,548 Um, don't fight when I'm gone. 186 00:08:25,592 --> 00:08:26,854 You. 187 00:08:26,897 --> 00:08:28,377 Can you join me in chambers? 188 00:08:28,420 --> 00:08:29,900 You know him? 189 00:08:29,944 --> 00:08:31,467 No. 190 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:36,646 Thoughts? 191 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:40,258 [chuckles] Well, it's copyright law. 192 00:08:40,302 --> 00:08:41,825 Nobody can copy unless they have the right. 193 00:08:41,869 --> 00:08:43,305 Mm. 194 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:45,263 But they both borrowed from Emily in Paris. 195 00:08:45,307 --> 00:08:47,178 Right, I mean... [chuckles] 196 00:08:47,222 --> 00:08:48,919 Look, there's no real money here. 197 00:08:48,963 --> 00:08:51,574 All they want is attention and to feel like they've won. 198 00:08:51,618 --> 00:08:53,097 Hmm. 199 00:08:53,141 --> 00:08:55,099 -End of Wizard of Oz. -What? 200 00:08:55,143 --> 00:08:56,927 Scarecrow getting a diploma. 201 00:08:56,971 --> 00:08:59,451 Uh... right. Can you make one? 202 00:08:59,495 --> 00:09:01,802 I'm in Copy Coop. I can make anything. 203 00:09:03,630 --> 00:09:05,327 Okay. 204 00:09:06,981 --> 00:09:09,505 -[bell dings] -Bing. Here's my decision. 205 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:11,594 Your books have both been copyrighted 206 00:09:11,638 --> 00:09:13,814 by me and this court, but under different names. 207 00:09:13,857 --> 00:09:15,772 Neither of you get Paris. 208 00:09:15,816 --> 00:09:17,818 That is your punishment for not being original. 209 00:09:18,819 --> 00:09:20,603 You get Judy in Nice 210 00:09:20,647 --> 00:09:22,431 and you get Janice in Lyon. 211 00:09:22,474 --> 00:09:23,954 I don't like Lyon. 212 00:09:23,998 --> 00:09:25,347 Tough. 213 00:09:25,390 --> 00:09:27,262 It's either Lyon or South Bronx. You decide. 214 00:09:28,045 --> 00:09:29,656 Thank you, Your Honor. 215 00:09:29,699 --> 00:09:30,657 Good. 216 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:32,223 Now, look at each other and say 217 00:09:32,267 --> 00:09:33,660 "I respect and I love you." 218 00:09:34,530 --> 00:09:37,446 Say it or I take away your copyrights. 219 00:09:39,666 --> 00:09:42,494 -I respect and I love you. -I respect and I love you. 220 00:09:42,538 --> 00:09:44,584 Do it till I believe you. 221 00:09:44,627 --> 00:09:46,324 Marissa. 222 00:09:46,368 --> 00:09:48,718 -Nicely done. -Thank you. 223 00:09:48,762 --> 00:09:51,678 Amazing what you can do without a ton of red tape. 224 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:53,593 Be my law clerk. 225 00:09:54,594 --> 00:09:55,551 What? No. 226 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:58,162 -I have a job. -Work here. 227 00:09:58,206 --> 00:10:00,817 Part-time, full-time, your call. 228 00:10:00,861 --> 00:10:01,949 Flat fee. 229 00:10:01,992 --> 00:10:03,951 Ten percent of all the legal filings. 230 00:10:03,994 --> 00:10:06,736 Unlimited use of the copy machines. 231 00:10:08,259 --> 00:10:09,957 Your Honor, this is not a court. 232 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,829 I-I don't know what it is, but it's... 233 00:10:12,873 --> 00:10:14,526 The future. 234 00:10:16,224 --> 00:10:17,921 Come on. 235 00:10:17,965 --> 00:10:19,488 Be here. 236 00:10:21,229 --> 00:10:22,404 I-I can't. 237 00:10:22,447 --> 00:10:23,405 I have a job. 238 00:10:23,448 --> 00:10:25,973 I want to pass the bar. 239 00:10:26,016 --> 00:10:27,583 I want to be a real lawyer. 240 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:30,978 You know why all these people are here? 241 00:10:31,021 --> 00:10:34,895 'Cause the courts and the lawyers and the appeals 242 00:10:34,938 --> 00:10:38,072 have made justice... 243 00:10:38,115 --> 00:10:40,248 unattainable. 244 00:10:40,291 --> 00:10:42,076 Out of reach. 245 00:10:42,119 --> 00:10:44,861 To anyone who doesn't have a shitload of money 246 00:10:44,905 --> 00:10:46,689 to wait it out. 247 00:10:46,733 --> 00:10:50,475 That's why Exxon beats out Mr. Nobody. 248 00:10:52,129 --> 00:10:54,610 Read Kafka's Before the Law. 249 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:56,351 Now I've got homework. 250 00:10:56,394 --> 00:10:58,527 It's one page long. 251 00:10:58,570 --> 00:11:00,660 Don't be a philistine. 252 00:11:02,531 --> 00:11:05,839 Justice is only just if it's available to everyone. 253 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:13,629 DIANE: Kurt? I delayed the reservation, 254 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:16,023 so I think we can still make it. 255 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:18,068 [shower running] 256 00:11:18,112 --> 00:11:19,330 Babe? 257 00:11:19,374 --> 00:11:21,115 I'm pouring a drink. 258 00:11:21,158 --> 00:11:22,246 Do you want one? 259 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:23,944 [sighs] 260 00:11:32,517 --> 00:11:33,997 [shower stops] 261 00:11:43,050 --> 00:11:44,486 [door opens] 262 00:11:46,444 --> 00:11:48,664 Who is this? 263 00:11:50,144 --> 00:11:51,580 No one. 264 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:54,104 Well, you just drew in a... 265 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:55,627 a beard and a mustache on him. 266 00:11:55,671 --> 00:11:56,759 I was doodling. 267 00:11:56,803 --> 00:11:58,761 You-you don't doodle. In fact, 268 00:11:58,805 --> 00:12:01,459 you're the exact opposite of a doodler. Who is it? 269 00:12:02,852 --> 00:12:05,681 I don't know. I thought it was somebody I knew, but... 270 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:07,944 -I'm not sure. -But you suspect. 271 00:12:07,988 --> 00:12:10,642 I mean, if it's one of the insurrectionists, 272 00:12:10,686 --> 00:12:13,297 then you need to tell the feds. 273 00:12:13,341 --> 00:12:14,516 Yeah, I'm not sure it's him. 274 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,865 Well, who do you think it is? 275 00:12:15,909 --> 00:12:17,649 Just somebody I went shooting with. 276 00:12:17,693 --> 00:12:19,086 Oh, my God, then it's him. 277 00:12:19,129 --> 00:12:21,479 No, he didn't talk that way. 278 00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:23,525 He wasn't political. He's a veteran. 279 00:12:24,395 --> 00:12:26,310 -Kurt! That's the profile. -Yeah, 280 00:12:26,354 --> 00:12:28,660 and I don't drop a dime because he fits a profile. 281 00:12:28,704 --> 00:12:30,967 What is this, a schoolyard? Drop a dime? 282 00:12:31,011 --> 00:12:33,665 This man tried to hang the vice president. 283 00:12:33,709 --> 00:12:35,842 He tried to kill Nancy Pelosi. 284 00:12:35,885 --> 00:12:38,148 You don't know that, and I'm not gonna be responsible 285 00:12:38,192 --> 00:12:39,454 for naming names. 286 00:12:39,497 --> 00:12:41,412 -This is not McCarthyism. -Actually, it is. 287 00:12:41,456 --> 00:12:43,284 -They stormed the Capitol! -The feds 288 00:12:43,327 --> 00:12:45,112 will threaten me with indictment 289 00:12:45,155 --> 00:12:46,548 if I don't name names. 290 00:12:46,591 --> 00:12:47,941 Even if I'm not sure if they're responsible. 291 00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:49,769 And then they will be asked to name names, 292 00:12:49,812 --> 00:12:51,596 and everybody will get lawyers, and... 293 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,512 and those are the only people who will benefit. 294 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:57,864 [door slams] 295 00:13:06,046 --> 00:13:07,743 What do you need, Diane? 296 00:13:08,570 --> 00:13:10,528 Uh, I-I don't know. 297 00:13:10,572 --> 00:13:12,226 Uh, maybe nothing. 298 00:13:12,269 --> 00:13:13,705 Do you want me to come back? 299 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:17,753 No. 300 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:22,932 I want to know who this man is. 301 00:13:24,281 --> 00:13:26,196 [chuckles] Well, that's gonna be pretty hard. 302 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,632 It's not a great photo. 303 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,462 Well, I-I may have some more information. 304 00:13:31,506 --> 00:13:33,073 He's a veteran. 305 00:13:33,116 --> 00:13:37,033 And he shoots at the same range as, um... 306 00:13:37,077 --> 00:13:38,861 as my husband, Kurt. 307 00:13:38,905 --> 00:13:41,690 It's the Kankakee Gun Club. 308 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:44,475 All right, I'll see what I can do. 309 00:13:47,261 --> 00:13:50,438 -REIF: What?! Are you serious?! -ROTTENBERG: Look, 310 00:13:50,481 --> 00:13:52,048 you're missing the tragedy here. 311 00:13:52,092 --> 00:13:53,441 It's not just you guys. 312 00:13:53,484 --> 00:13:54,746 She can't pay me either. 313 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:56,487 Well, we will be attaching her wages. 314 00:13:56,531 --> 00:13:58,968 Yeah, you're welcome to it, but there's nothing there. Nothing. 315 00:13:59,012 --> 00:14:00,752 -I looked. -Well, even-even the inheritance? 316 00:14:00,796 --> 00:14:02,754 -Swallowed up by taxes. -REIF: This is bullshit. 317 00:14:02,798 --> 00:14:04,582 ROTTENBERG: I understand your anger. 318 00:14:04,626 --> 00:14:08,499 But, hey, congratulations on your win. 319 00:14:09,283 --> 00:14:10,850 Dylan Pike. 320 00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:12,242 What? 321 00:14:12,286 --> 00:14:13,591 Dylan Pike. 322 00:14:13,635 --> 00:14:15,985 -The man in the wanted photo. -How... 323 00:14:16,029 --> 00:14:19,815 Wow. The feds couldn't find him and you-- what, just like that? 324 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:22,774 -They didn't know he shot at the Kankakee Gun Club. -That's all you needed? 325 00:14:22,818 --> 00:14:24,254 The club had his driver's license on their computers. 326 00:14:24,298 --> 00:14:26,430 -And how did you get it? -Diane, if I told you that, 327 00:14:26,474 --> 00:14:27,518 you wouldn't need me. 328 00:14:27,562 --> 00:14:28,911 Well, we don't pay you enough. 329 00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:31,958 Oh, I know that. Want to see his photo? 330 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,447 Um, you want me to call the feds? 331 00:14:43,491 --> 00:14:45,493 Uh, no. I can. 332 00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:48,800 Or, I... I-I will. 333 00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:52,108 I-I just have to think about it. 334 00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:54,894 RECEPTIONIST: Hello, sir. Thank you for waiting. 335 00:14:54,937 --> 00:14:56,330 Welcome to Reddick/Lockhart. 336 00:14:56,373 --> 00:14:58,375 Can I help you? 337 00:14:58,419 --> 00:15:00,900 David Rathbone for Liz Reddick. 338 00:15:03,032 --> 00:15:06,818 I think David Cord is in the reception waiting for you. 339 00:15:06,862 --> 00:15:09,299 David Cord? Like, the Cord Brothers? 340 00:15:09,343 --> 00:15:11,171 Yeah. He asked for you, 341 00:15:11,214 --> 00:15:13,390 but he gave his name as David Rathbone. 342 00:15:13,434 --> 00:15:14,652 Why? 343 00:15:14,696 --> 00:15:16,176 I have no idea. 344 00:15:17,003 --> 00:15:18,830 What have I done with the aces? 345 00:15:18,874 --> 00:15:20,702 -Sure. -Mm. 346 00:15:21,485 --> 00:15:22,704 Oh... 347 00:15:22,747 --> 00:15:25,576 [chuckling] 348 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:27,622 Thank you. Thank you. 349 00:15:27,665 --> 00:15:29,624 Mr. Cord? 350 00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:31,713 Ms. Reddick. Hello. 351 00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:33,323 I knew your father. 352 00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:34,672 I hated your father. 353 00:15:35,586 --> 00:15:37,153 Yes. Well, he hated you, too. 354 00:15:37,197 --> 00:15:40,069 [chuckling] You gave the name Rathbone? 355 00:15:40,113 --> 00:15:41,723 I did. 356 00:15:41,766 --> 00:15:44,552 I do that, sometimes, just to see if I get as warm a reception 357 00:15:44,595 --> 00:15:46,815 as I would if I gave my true name. 358 00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:50,036 And I'm happy to say I did. 359 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:51,689 -Hello. -Oh, this is Marissa. 360 00:15:51,733 --> 00:15:53,561 This is one of our law clinic lawyers. 361 00:15:53,604 --> 00:15:55,215 Eli Gold's daughter. 362 00:15:55,258 --> 00:15:58,348 Democrats as far as the eye can see. 363 00:15:59,175 --> 00:16:02,613 Why don't you ask Julius to join us. Hmm? 364 00:16:05,573 --> 00:16:08,054 I want to save the country. 365 00:16:10,186 --> 00:16:11,927 You want to save it? 366 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:13,146 Yes. 367 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:14,147 Don't you? 368 00:16:14,190 --> 00:16:15,235 Yes. 369 00:16:15,278 --> 00:16:19,195 January 6 changed everything for me. 370 00:16:19,239 --> 00:16:21,589 My "road to Damascus" moment, but... 371 00:16:21,632 --> 00:16:24,374 Do I have to explain that to Democrats? 372 00:16:24,418 --> 00:16:25,549 No. 373 00:16:25,593 --> 00:16:26,855 And I'm not a Democrat. 374 00:16:26,898 --> 00:16:28,378 Ah! That's my point. 375 00:16:28,422 --> 00:16:31,512 See, I came to realize that we-- say, the three of us-- 376 00:16:31,555 --> 00:16:34,297 we have a lot more in common than we might think. 377 00:16:34,341 --> 00:16:35,559 We all love this country. 378 00:16:35,603 --> 00:16:38,040 I love this country. 379 00:16:38,084 --> 00:16:39,650 It gave my family a start. 380 00:16:39,694 --> 00:16:42,044 My dad, he started a small laundry business. 381 00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:44,394 Sent his son to college, and I... 382 00:16:44,438 --> 00:16:46,309 made something of myself. 383 00:16:47,136 --> 00:16:49,617 Too many people take America for granted. 384 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,053 I don't. 385 00:16:51,097 --> 00:16:54,100 And I suspect that you don't either. 386 00:16:54,143 --> 00:16:57,755 Well, I-I don't think there's a disagreement there. 387 00:16:57,799 --> 00:16:59,844 I think the disagreement is in the details. 388 00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:03,065 Ah. Well, let's start with the details. 389 00:17:03,109 --> 00:17:05,720 Reif Van De Berg and Leo's Bike Shop. 390 00:17:06,982 --> 00:17:09,245 -JULIUS: What is that? -Uh, that's a... 391 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:12,466 uh, a defamation suit involving a small business. 392 00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:13,945 A-A suit that we won. 393 00:17:13,989 --> 00:17:15,208 CORD: But it didn't make any difference 394 00:17:15,251 --> 00:17:16,861 because the defendant is bankrupt. 395 00:17:16,905 --> 00:17:19,038 Uh, I-I don't, uh, know how... 396 00:17:19,081 --> 00:17:20,387 And the client's retainer is gone. 397 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:22,650 -He has no money to pay you. -Uh, Mr. Cord... 398 00:17:22,693 --> 00:17:26,349 So, I want to hire you to continue to sue on his behalf. 399 00:17:26,393 --> 00:17:29,961 I'll offer you a $12 million fund to continue the suit 400 00:17:30,005 --> 00:17:32,138 for another six months. 401 00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:34,270 Uh... Why? 402 00:17:34,314 --> 00:17:37,491 My only request is that you go after a different defendant 403 00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:38,796 for defamation. 404 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,885 One with deeper pockets. 405 00:17:40,929 --> 00:17:42,365 The social media company 406 00:17:42,409 --> 00:17:45,281 that distributed Ms. Beck's vile lies to the public. 407 00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:48,371 But $12 million is a lot of money. 408 00:17:48,415 --> 00:17:50,591 So, what's in this for you? 409 00:17:50,634 --> 00:17:53,159 I want to go after Section 230. 410 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,162 ♪ 411 00:17:57,772 --> 00:18:01,123 ♪ Back when there was no one on the Internet♪ 412 00:18:01,167 --> 00:18:02,777 ♪ We had no iPhones♪ 413 00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:04,561 ♪ Memes were not invented yet♪ 414 00:18:04,605 --> 00:18:08,130 ♪ Congress made up a law to help it blossom and grow♪ 415 00:18:08,174 --> 00:18:11,568 ♪ So now I can't get sued for what my users say♪ 416 00:18:11,612 --> 00:18:13,831 ♪ That's why I own two spaceships♪ 417 00:18:13,875 --> 00:18:15,616 ♪ And most of L.A.♪ 418 00:18:15,659 --> 00:18:17,139 ♪ All from winding you up♪ 419 00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:19,315 ♪ And then watching you go♪ 420 00:18:20,795 --> 00:18:22,710 ♪ I just want to engage you♪ 421 00:18:22,753 --> 00:18:24,494 ♪ With things to enrage you♪ 422 00:18:24,538 --> 00:18:27,323 ♪ To keep your eyes on your screen♪ 423 00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:29,847 ♪ I don't ever get dirty♪ 424 00:18:29,891 --> 00:18:31,501 ♪ Because Section 230♪ 425 00:18:31,545 --> 00:18:35,288 ♪ Is keeping my hands so clean...♪ 426 00:18:36,245 --> 00:18:37,638 ♪ Here's the good news♪ 427 00:18:37,681 --> 00:18:39,857 ♪ Everybody has a voice♪ 428 00:18:39,901 --> 00:18:41,163 ♪ Here's the bad news♪ 429 00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:43,165 ♪ Everybody has a voice♪ 430 00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:45,167 ♪ Cheats and liars, the fools♪ 431 00:18:45,211 --> 00:18:47,126 ♪ And the mad and the mean♪ 432 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:50,520 ♪ You get Arab Spring, you get #MeToo♪ 433 00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:51,782 ♪ Bonus items♪ 434 00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:53,784 ♪ Pizzagate, fake news and Q♪ 435 00:18:53,828 --> 00:18:55,177 ♪ I've got principles♪ 436 00:18:55,221 --> 00:18:57,788 ♪ So, sorry, I can't intervene♪ 437 00:18:58,876 --> 00:19:01,749 ♪ So blame the people who wrote it out♪ 438 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:03,229 ♪ They promote it♪ 439 00:19:03,272 --> 00:19:06,057 ♪ To keep your eyes on your screen♪ 440 00:19:06,101 --> 00:19:08,234 ♪ I don't ever get dirty♪ 441 00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:10,192 ♪ Because Section 230♪ 442 00:19:10,236 --> 00:19:11,889 ♪ Is keeping my hands♪ 443 00:19:11,933 --> 00:19:14,762 ♪ So clean.♪ 444 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:17,765 [quiet chatter] 445 00:19:19,245 --> 00:19:20,420 Jay. 446 00:19:21,464 --> 00:19:23,640 How do I make an anonymous phone call? 447 00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:26,208 -Do you have a burner? -No. 448 00:19:38,786 --> 00:19:41,005 Uh, hello. Yes... 449 00:19:41,049 --> 00:19:42,833 I would like to report the name 450 00:19:42,877 --> 00:19:45,662 of one of the January 6 rioters. 451 00:19:45,706 --> 00:19:47,969 I saw on your poster. 452 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:54,367 Dylan Pike. 453 00:19:55,672 --> 00:19:57,021 No. 454 00:19:57,065 --> 00:19:59,067 I-I'd rather not leave my name. 455 00:20:00,764 --> 00:20:03,071 No. I-I don't. 456 00:20:10,818 --> 00:20:13,037 ♪ 457 00:20:42,676 --> 00:20:44,895 ♪ 458 00:21:13,881 --> 00:21:16,231 ♪ 459 00:21:29,113 --> 00:21:31,333 ♪ 460 00:21:48,916 --> 00:21:51,440 [arguing] 461 00:21:51,484 --> 00:21:53,877 David Cord is not a good look for us. 462 00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:57,533 [scoffs] I think we would look great in $12 million. 463 00:21:57,577 --> 00:21:59,013 Blood money. 464 00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:00,667 That's a little dramatic. 465 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,712 The amount of money he's spent funding Republican campaigns 466 00:22:02,756 --> 00:22:05,541 -over the last decade... -If you all weren't all so busy 467 00:22:05,585 --> 00:22:07,717 turning up your noses at the Republican Party, 468 00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:10,851 you might remember that Democrats and Republicans 469 00:22:10,894 --> 00:22:12,374 thought Section 230 was flawed. 470 00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:14,028 Here's an opportunity for the unity 471 00:22:14,071 --> 00:22:16,291 that the Democrats say they want. 472 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,075 I've never asked to unite with white supremacists. 473 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,903 Yeah, let's not pretend this is some bipartisan issue, though. 474 00:22:19,947 --> 00:22:23,167 The right has no interest in stopping conspiracy theories 475 00:22:23,211 --> 00:22:24,604 on these platforms. 476 00:22:24,647 --> 00:22:26,083 It would help if the boomers would stop falling 477 00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,346 for those conspiracy theories 478 00:22:27,389 --> 00:22:30,218 and sharing it with their friends. 479 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,396 Sorry, but it would. 480 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,485 And no more plotting to overthrow the government, 481 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:38,269 or stalking journalists online. 482 00:22:38,313 --> 00:22:40,446 What about the employee that wants to speak out 483 00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:42,839 against the boss that's sexually harassing them? 484 00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:45,320 They repeal Section 230, and there would be no #MeToo. 485 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,540 I don't believe that. You regulate Section 230, 486 00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:50,804 and let the newspapers get back to actually being competitive. 487 00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:52,936 We're not going back to reading newspapers, grandpa. 488 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:54,938 -Grandpa? -Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's inappropriate. 489 00:22:54,982 --> 00:22:56,723 -There's no need... -Did you really just say "grandpa"? 490 00:22:56,766 --> 00:22:58,289 Wait! Wait. Wait. Wait. 491 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:00,466 If we're gonna go after the social media giants, 492 00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:04,121 we need the resources of a deep pocket like Cord. 493 00:23:04,165 --> 00:23:05,775 -MADELINE: Where are you going? -To court. 494 00:23:05,819 --> 00:23:08,735 But we haven't decided if we're taking this Cord money yet. 495 00:23:08,778 --> 00:23:10,171 Of course we are. 496 00:23:14,218 --> 00:23:16,438 [quietly]: Ooh-kay. 497 00:23:17,352 --> 00:23:18,788 This is a new suit? 498 00:23:18,832 --> 00:23:21,791 It's the same facts, Your Honor, but different defendant. 499 00:23:21,835 --> 00:23:23,576 -You're suing Chumhum? -JULIUS: Yes, Your Honor. 500 00:23:23,619 --> 00:23:25,926 You have read Section 230, I assume. 501 00:23:25,969 --> 00:23:29,320 Yes, Section 230 purports to shield Internet platforms 502 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:33,455 from liability, but we believe it is unconstitutional 503 00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:36,023 because it contravenes the First Amendment. 504 00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:37,328 And how does it do that? 505 00:23:37,372 --> 00:23:39,156 Well, the First Amendment states that, uh, 506 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,462 "Congress shall make no law 507 00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:41,811 abridging the freedom of the press." 508 00:23:41,855 --> 00:23:44,335 Section 230 doesn't say anything about the press. 509 00:23:44,379 --> 00:23:48,252 No, but in practice, the law has decimated the press. 510 00:23:48,296 --> 00:23:49,732 LIZ: Through Section 230, 511 00:23:49,776 --> 00:23:52,996 the government has placed its thumb on the scales, 512 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,781 in favor of Internet platforms 513 00:23:54,824 --> 00:23:57,174 over newspapers and other press outlets. 514 00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:04,094 Huh. 515 00:24:11,841 --> 00:24:13,669 MAN: Fucking Democrats. 516 00:24:13,713 --> 00:24:16,237 Take care. Stay in touch. 517 00:24:20,154 --> 00:24:21,503 May I help you? 518 00:24:21,547 --> 00:24:23,374 Oh. Sure hope so. 519 00:24:23,418 --> 00:24:25,028 Um, Madeline Starkey. I'm with the FBI. 520 00:24:25,072 --> 00:24:28,423 I'll never get used to saying that. It sounds so melodramatic. 521 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,470 My husband made a ringtone for my phone. 522 00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:34,385 I'm Madeline Starkey with the FBI. 523 00:24:34,429 --> 00:24:36,649 [ringtone plays ominous riff] 524 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,436 Hi. 525 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,960 -May I help you, Ms. Starkey? -Oh, so polite. 526 00:24:44,004 --> 00:24:47,790 Uh, yes, uh, you may help me by answering a few questions. 527 00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:50,576 Uh, and I won't take up too much of your time. 528 00:24:50,619 --> 00:24:52,534 -Seems like a bad day -Presidential transition, 529 00:24:52,578 --> 00:24:54,405 a lot of people are being let go. 530 00:24:54,449 --> 00:24:56,320 Uh, I'm so sorry. But not you, though? 531 00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:59,149 Not yet. Unless that's why you're here. 532 00:24:59,193 --> 00:25:00,716 Oh. No, no, no, no. 533 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,935 I'm the deep state. 534 00:25:01,978 --> 00:25:05,112 We don't do anything meaningful. [chuckles] 535 00:25:06,461 --> 00:25:08,855 Mm. I spoke to a friend of yours, Dylan Pike. 536 00:25:11,031 --> 00:25:15,514 He said you trained him in the use of AR-15s, nine millimeters, 537 00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:17,603 how to buy ammunition in bulk. 538 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:21,563 We covered a bunch of subjects in his group. 539 00:25:21,607 --> 00:25:23,652 So it wasn't just a one-on-one. 540 00:25:23,696 --> 00:25:25,219 It was a small group of veterans. 541 00:25:25,262 --> 00:25:27,395 I believe this group was five veterans. 542 00:25:27,438 --> 00:25:29,092 You wouldn't happen to remember the names 543 00:25:29,136 --> 00:25:31,747 of the other four individuals who trained with Mr. Pike? 544 00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:34,663 This would be sometime prior to the January events, uh, 545 00:25:34,707 --> 00:25:36,491 at the Capitol. 546 00:25:40,843 --> 00:25:43,150 Could you provide me with those names? 547 00:25:45,239 --> 00:25:46,632 No. 548 00:25:46,675 --> 00:25:48,068 Sorry. Can't. 549 00:25:48,111 --> 00:25:50,331 You can't? Or you won't? 550 00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:57,773 You have a very calm manner. 551 00:25:57,817 --> 00:26:00,471 I should be calm, but I'm unnerved. [laughs] 552 00:26:00,515 --> 00:26:02,473 Anything else, Ms. Starkey? 553 00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:04,388 No. No, no, not right now. 554 00:26:04,432 --> 00:26:06,826 But pretty soon. We'll be in touch. 555 00:26:13,397 --> 00:26:16,749 You've been a managing editor for how long, Mr. Hookstratten? 556 00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:17,880 Twenty-three years. 557 00:26:17,924 --> 00:26:19,012 I was a reporter 558 00:26:19,055 --> 00:26:20,317 for ten years before that. 559 00:26:20,361 --> 00:26:21,797 And you were aware, were you not, 560 00:26:21,841 --> 00:26:24,017 of this story that was circulating on social media 561 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:27,237 about a bike shop owner grooming school children 562 00:26:27,281 --> 00:26:29,239 for sexual exploitation. 563 00:26:29,283 --> 00:26:30,589 I was aware of it, yes. 564 00:26:30,632 --> 00:26:32,634 Why didn't your newspaper cover the story? 565 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:34,505 It-- It seems like it was newsworthy, right? 566 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:37,639 -If it were true, yes. -How do you know it wasn't? 567 00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:39,554 Because I spent two weeks running down the rumors. 568 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:41,382 In the case of this story, there was nothing, 569 00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:43,558 just a lot of gossip online. 570 00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:45,865 Now, what kind of financial shape of your newspaper 571 00:26:45,908 --> 00:26:48,781 at the time that you decided not to run the story? 572 00:26:48,824 --> 00:26:52,088 Your Honor, I'm sorry, but I have to object there. 573 00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:53,568 Relevance. 574 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,745 The financial impact of Section 230's exemption 575 00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:59,618 -on newspapers is directly relevant. -Overruled. 576 00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:02,011 HOOKSTRATTEN: We were broke and getting broker. 577 00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:03,230 The advertisers we'd counted on 578 00:27:03,273 --> 00:27:04,840 had mostly gone over to the Internet. 579 00:27:04,884 --> 00:27:07,016 It was only a matter of time before we wouldn't be able 580 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:08,191 to keep the lights on anymore. 581 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:10,716 Six months ago, that time came. 582 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:12,326 Your witness. 583 00:27:13,893 --> 00:27:16,635 Classified ads were a big source of revenue for newspapers 584 00:27:16,678 --> 00:27:18,637 -at one time. Is that right? -They were. 585 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,205 I imagine those being a thing of the past contributed to that. 586 00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:23,685 -It did. -What about cable news networks? 587 00:27:23,729 --> 00:27:25,556 -That have an impact? -Objection, Your Honor. 588 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,210 We are not litigating over cable news or classified ads. 589 00:27:27,254 --> 00:27:30,649 That's right. We're litigating over your untested theory 590 00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:33,086 that newspapers went bankrupt because social media 591 00:27:33,129 --> 00:27:35,741 has a government-sanctioned advantage in the marketplace. 592 00:27:35,784 --> 00:27:39,092 We should, Your Honor, at the very least, test this theory. 593 00:27:39,135 --> 00:27:41,398 Agreed. Overruled. 594 00:27:41,442 --> 00:27:43,574 ZSCHAU: Is it possible, Mr. Hookstratten, 595 00:27:43,618 --> 00:27:46,621 that the reason these newspapers went bankrupt 596 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,057 is no more complicated 597 00:27:48,101 --> 00:27:50,103 than they didn't keep up with their competition? 598 00:27:50,146 --> 00:27:53,759 -That's one reason. -Thank you for not contesting the obvious. 599 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:58,285 Mr. Hookstratten... 600 00:27:59,765 --> 00:28:01,897 ...didn't your newspaper conduct this survey 601 00:28:01,941 --> 00:28:04,987 -of where readers were now getting their news? -Yes. 602 00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:06,772 And what were the top four sources? 603 00:28:06,815 --> 00:28:09,513 Facebook, Twitter, Google, Chumhum. 604 00:28:09,557 --> 00:28:13,430 None of which can be sued for defamation, libel, or fraud. 605 00:28:13,474 --> 00:28:15,781 Now, do you think that enters in to what stories 606 00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:19,045 you do run, and what stories you do not run? 607 00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:21,482 It's always hanging over your head. 608 00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:24,267 Gawker was sued out of existence 609 00:28:24,311 --> 00:28:25,921 by someone who wanted them shut down. 610 00:28:25,965 --> 00:28:29,229 That can happen to a newspaper or a website. 611 00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:32,014 It can't happen to Facebook. 612 00:28:41,589 --> 00:28:43,634 Oh, I forgot you were in here. 613 00:28:43,678 --> 00:28:45,462 Yeah. You don't need to do those anymore. 614 00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:47,508 We're suing Chumhum now. 615 00:28:48,291 --> 00:28:49,858 [door closes] 616 00:29:07,963 --> 00:29:10,009 [quiet murmuring] 617 00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:12,663 [beeps] 618 00:29:12,707 --> 00:29:14,840 WACKNER: Uh, case number 15. Let's go. 619 00:29:18,191 --> 00:29:20,062 Ah! 620 00:29:20,106 --> 00:29:21,368 Five-minute recess. 621 00:29:21,411 --> 00:29:23,674 Don't touch these props, please. 622 00:29:23,718 --> 00:29:25,328 I want to do both. 623 00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:28,157 I want to clerk here, and I want to work at Reddick/Lockhart. 624 00:29:28,201 --> 00:29:29,811 How many hours can you give me? 625 00:29:29,855 --> 00:29:31,204 What do you need me to do? 626 00:29:31,247 --> 00:29:32,727 Well... 627 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,860 My copyright certificates are... 628 00:29:34,903 --> 00:29:37,558 are catching on with the fan fiction crowd, and... 629 00:29:37,601 --> 00:29:40,039 I need you to process them. 630 00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:42,781 MARISSA: How much are you charging for these? 631 00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:45,131 I checked what the Writers Guild charged for script registration. 632 00:29:45,174 --> 00:29:46,436 -20 bucks. -You're kidding. 633 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,874 -And how many have you sold? -412. 634 00:29:49,744 --> 00:29:51,006 -What? -I know. 635 00:29:51,050 --> 00:29:52,486 It spread online. 636 00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:54,531 But these don't mean anything. 637 00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:55,837 They're just pieces of paper. 638 00:29:55,881 --> 00:29:57,143 What do you think US copyright is? 639 00:29:57,186 --> 00:30:00,320 Mine is at least good for 71 years. 640 00:30:00,363 --> 00:30:02,061 That's a year more than US. 641 00:30:02,104 --> 00:30:03,932 Okay, but a plagiarist can still steal a work. 642 00:30:03,976 --> 00:30:05,804 They can do that with the US copyright. 643 00:30:05,847 --> 00:30:08,197 They just get sued in court, like they would in my court. 644 00:30:08,241 --> 00:30:09,416 Oh, my God. 645 00:30:09,459 --> 00:30:12,723 Marissa, I'm building something here. 646 00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:14,638 I want you to join me. 647 00:30:14,682 --> 00:30:16,205 I want your advice. 648 00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:17,511 I want your advice on cases. 649 00:30:17,554 --> 00:30:19,426 I want to bounce legal theories off you. 650 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,254 What are your legal theories? 651 00:30:21,297 --> 00:30:24,605 I don't know. That's why I need to bounce them. 652 00:30:27,608 --> 00:30:30,829 Okay. I can give you from noon to 2:00 pm, 653 00:30:30,872 --> 00:30:33,179 and 5:00 to 7:00, if you want it. 654 00:30:33,222 --> 00:30:34,745 Boom. 655 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:36,747 That's how revolutions are made. 656 00:30:36,791 --> 00:30:38,401 Back rooms of copy shops. 657 00:30:38,445 --> 00:30:39,620 Let's go. 658 00:30:39,663 --> 00:30:41,448 DIANE: Hey! I'm home. 659 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:44,538 Kurt? 660 00:30:47,106 --> 00:30:49,935 Some reason you're sitting in the dark? 661 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:52,851 No. 662 00:30:56,637 --> 00:30:59,466 You want me to come and sit with you? 663 00:30:59,509 --> 00:31:02,121 I got a visit from the FBI today. 664 00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:07,909 Uh, about what? 665 00:31:07,953 --> 00:31:11,478 About the guy I took shooting, the one in the Wanted poster. 666 00:31:14,568 --> 00:31:17,571 -And what did you tell them? -Nothing. 667 00:31:17,614 --> 00:31:19,921 This agent wanted me to give her names 668 00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:21,880 of the other veterans I took shooting. 669 00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:25,884 Okay, Kurt, listen to me. I... 670 00:31:25,927 --> 00:31:29,626 I'm your wife, which means that anything you tell me 671 00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:32,586 is privileged communication. So... 672 00:31:34,022 --> 00:31:37,721 This is not the time to be the taciturn mountain man. 673 00:31:37,765 --> 00:31:41,073 Just tell me. Tell me everything. 674 00:31:41,116 --> 00:31:42,726 About? 675 00:31:42,770 --> 00:31:44,511 Who did you take shooting? 676 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:47,383 Veterans with PTSD. 677 00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:50,256 I volunteer to shoot with them on Saturdays. 678 00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:51,822 They're not criminals. 679 00:31:51,866 --> 00:31:55,043 Then just give the FBI their names and explain that. 680 00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:58,525 One of these veterans said he was going to D.C. 681 00:31:58,568 --> 00:32:00,266 and he wanted a tour of the Capitol. 682 00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:03,269 I called the congressional office to arrange it. 683 00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:08,361 When was this? 684 00:32:08,404 --> 00:32:10,232 On January 5. 685 00:32:15,585 --> 00:32:17,936 Which congressperson? 686 00:32:18,719 --> 00:32:19,981 I'm not gonna say. 687 00:32:20,025 --> 00:32:22,941 Kurt, I can't tell anyone. 688 00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:34,604 I'm not gonna say. 689 00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:40,871 Okay. 690 00:32:40,915 --> 00:32:43,309 You're not gonna talk to the feds again. 691 00:32:43,352 --> 00:32:45,398 I-I am going to talk to them. 692 00:32:45,441 --> 00:32:48,140 You think I'm in trouble? 693 00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:51,360 Yes. I think you're a Trump official 694 00:32:51,404 --> 00:32:54,320 who trained an insurrectionist in firearms. 695 00:32:54,363 --> 00:32:55,582 I didn't train... 696 00:32:55,625 --> 00:32:58,019 And then arranged 697 00:32:58,063 --> 00:32:59,978 for them to scout the Capitol. 698 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:04,243 I think that's the definition of trouble. 699 00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:08,551 So here's where I come in. 700 00:33:08,595 --> 00:33:10,945 From this moment on... 701 00:33:11,772 --> 00:33:13,643 I am your lawyer. 702 00:33:21,521 --> 00:33:23,392 STARKEY: Have a seat. 703 00:33:23,436 --> 00:33:24,872 How... 704 00:33:24,915 --> 00:33:26,526 How is your bird problem? 705 00:33:26,569 --> 00:33:28,093 Intermittent. [clears throat] 706 00:33:28,136 --> 00:33:30,834 They put rotors out there, so the birds won't land. 707 00:33:30,878 --> 00:33:32,575 Makes sense. 708 00:33:32,619 --> 00:33:33,924 Eh, sometimes. 709 00:33:33,968 --> 00:33:35,056 But here we are again. 710 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,884 Yes. This'll be very brief. 711 00:33:36,927 --> 00:33:39,234 I just want you to know I'm Kurt McVeigh's attorney, 712 00:33:39,278 --> 00:33:42,585 and I need you to not approach him again without my presence. 713 00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:43,804 You're going to represent him? 714 00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:45,284 -Yes. -Oh. 715 00:33:45,327 --> 00:33:48,243 That will put such a strain on the marriage. 716 00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:50,376 Thanks for the concern. 717 00:33:50,419 --> 00:33:52,073 Here's my card. 718 00:33:52,117 --> 00:33:54,423 If you want to interview him again, just call that number. 719 00:33:54,467 --> 00:33:56,512 -Okay, just so you know, we're not after Kurt. -Mm. 720 00:33:56,556 --> 00:33:58,253 -[bell ringing] -Uh-oh. 721 00:33:58,297 --> 00:33:59,559 What? 722 00:33:59,602 --> 00:34:01,082 The bells. 723 00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:03,606 You might not want to watch this. 724 00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:04,999 [bell continues ringing] 725 00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:05,782 What? 726 00:34:05,826 --> 00:34:07,784 [bell ringing] 727 00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:10,222 -[splatting on window] -Oh, my God. 728 00:34:10,265 --> 00:34:11,571 Oh! 729 00:34:11,614 --> 00:34:13,616 The birds haven't quite caught on to the rotors. 730 00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:16,315 Building maintenance insists they will eventually, 731 00:34:16,358 --> 00:34:17,620 but I don't know. 732 00:34:17,664 --> 00:34:19,579 -Oh, my... Oh, my God. -[splatting] 733 00:34:19,622 --> 00:34:21,102 Anyway... 734 00:34:22,234 --> 00:34:26,020 Job one, for the FBI, is identifying and building cases 735 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:29,110 against as many of the January 6 rioters as possible. 736 00:34:29,154 --> 00:34:31,243 And I-I-I wish you great success. 737 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:34,202 As far as I'm concerned, they all deserve to be locked up. 738 00:34:34,246 --> 00:34:35,725 Well, yes, given your politics, 739 00:34:35,769 --> 00:34:36,857 I thought you might be sympathetic. 740 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,815 And job two... 741 00:34:38,859 --> 00:34:40,817 is preventing the next January 6. 742 00:34:40,861 --> 00:34:43,864 I always looked at the Conway marriage, 743 00:34:43,907 --> 00:34:46,475 and I wondered how they did it. 744 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:47,998 Maybe you can tell me sometime. 745 00:34:48,042 --> 00:34:50,000 Good luck with your investigation. 746 00:34:50,044 --> 00:34:51,785 -[splatting resumes] -Ooh... 747 00:34:51,828 --> 00:34:54,179 You get used to it. 748 00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:57,921 Gunnar Neustadt, former Chumhum content moderator. 749 00:34:57,965 --> 00:35:00,620 And why are you no longer at Chumhum? 750 00:35:00,663 --> 00:35:02,361 PTSD. 751 00:35:04,058 --> 00:35:07,409 Uh, what about the work there was traumatic? 752 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,237 -The churn. -The churn? What is the churn? 753 00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:11,152 Constant turnover of bad content. 754 00:35:11,196 --> 00:35:13,241 Some of it sad, some of it homicidal, 755 00:35:13,285 --> 00:35:15,156 some of it political. It never stopped. 756 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,680 So, all you did was block the churn? 757 00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:21,423 No, we also highlighted, repositioned, featured items. 758 00:35:21,467 --> 00:35:22,685 Oh, in other words, 759 00:35:22,729 --> 00:35:24,034 you did what a newspaper editor does? 760 00:35:24,078 --> 00:35:25,645 ZSCHAU: Objection. 761 00:35:25,688 --> 00:35:27,734 Leading. 762 00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:31,346 Overruled. 763 00:35:31,390 --> 00:35:33,131 NEUSTADT: It felt like I was an editor. 764 00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:37,004 In that you were blocking violent or pornographic content? 765 00:35:37,047 --> 00:35:38,701 In the sense that we featured clickbait. 766 00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:42,052 Um, if it sparked anger or outrage, we featured it. 767 00:35:42,096 --> 00:35:44,185 -That's how the site made money. -LIZ: Thank you. 768 00:35:44,229 --> 00:35:46,318 Nothing further, Your Honor. 769 00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:50,060 Uh, just one second, Your Honor. 770 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:52,715 I was at a judge's conference, 771 00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:54,848 and Judge Friend said that her dad 772 00:35:54,891 --> 00:35:57,764 was a small-town newspaper editor. 773 00:35:57,807 --> 00:35:59,418 Go after editorial content. 774 00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:03,291 You go for it. 775 00:36:03,335 --> 00:36:07,208 -Why me? -Because we have an audience of one. 776 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:08,731 Wait. 777 00:36:08,775 --> 00:36:10,211 Don't look now. 778 00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:12,648 I haven't questioned a witness in two years. 779 00:36:12,692 --> 00:36:14,346 Okay. Then it's time. 780 00:36:18,393 --> 00:36:21,570 [clears throat] Mr. Neustadt... 781 00:36:21,614 --> 00:36:23,093 Mr. Neustadt. 782 00:36:23,137 --> 00:36:25,835 How often did you meet with your team of editors? 783 00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:28,316 Excuse me, moderators. 784 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,450 -Twice a day. Morning and evening. -Okay. 785 00:36:31,493 --> 00:36:32,973 Good. 786 00:36:33,016 --> 00:36:35,976 And, uh, what did you discuss at these meetings? 787 00:36:36,019 --> 00:36:37,151 Which stories were trending. 788 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:40,415 And by trending, you mean... 789 00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:42,200 Uh, popular, interesting, newsworthy. 790 00:36:42,243 --> 00:36:43,897 You were assigning value? 791 00:36:43,940 --> 00:36:45,594 Objection. Counselor is testifying. 792 00:36:45,638 --> 00:36:46,900 Overruled. 793 00:36:46,943 --> 00:36:48,684 Continue, Counselor. 794 00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:51,296 JULIUS: Mr. Neustadt, if you were deciding 795 00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:53,080 which stories were important, 796 00:36:53,123 --> 00:36:56,126 how is that different from what an editorial team 797 00:36:56,170 --> 00:36:57,606 at a newspaper does? 798 00:36:57,650 --> 00:37:00,000 Objection. The witness cannot be expected to know 799 00:37:00,043 --> 00:37:01,871 the inner workings of a newspaper. 800 00:37:01,915 --> 00:37:04,787 Actually, I worked in the TribuneMetro section 801 00:37:04,831 --> 00:37:06,485 for three years. 802 00:37:18,627 --> 00:37:20,586 [quiet chatter] 803 00:37:20,629 --> 00:37:22,022 What? 804 00:37:22,065 --> 00:37:23,719 Build-a-Bears. 805 00:37:23,763 --> 00:37:24,764 They were sent to Marissa. 806 00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:26,461 Okay. 807 00:37:26,505 --> 00:37:28,028 -Why? -No idea. 808 00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:31,249 -This one's a Marissa bear. -Hug me. 809 00:37:35,557 --> 00:37:38,299 Why don't we, meaning you, 810 00:37:38,343 --> 00:37:40,214 take all these stuffed animals 811 00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:42,042 and put them in the conference room. 812 00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:49,397 I'm just saying Mr. Wolfe-Coleman, 813 00:37:49,441 --> 00:37:51,530 this may not be the firm for you. 814 00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:54,272 Benjamin Dafoe. 815 00:37:54,315 --> 00:37:55,490 RECEPTIONIST: One moment. 816 00:37:55,534 --> 00:37:57,187 -MADELINE: Please send this out. -Okay. 817 00:37:59,538 --> 00:38:02,280 I know. I'm putting them in the conference room. 818 00:38:07,546 --> 00:38:10,026 -Do you have a minute, Marissa? -Sure. 819 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:11,854 -Actually, I, um... -Carmen. 820 00:38:11,898 --> 00:38:13,291 Right, uh, 821 00:38:13,334 --> 00:38:15,380 could you give us a moment, Carmen? 822 00:38:18,557 --> 00:38:21,908 [exhales] Why are there hundreds of teddy bears in our reception? 823 00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:24,563 I... [chuckles] 824 00:38:24,606 --> 00:38:27,870 Is that a legal euphemism I don't understand? 825 00:38:27,914 --> 00:38:30,351 No. This... 826 00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:32,222 was sent to you. 827 00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:35,443 -It's a Marissa bear. -Hug me. 828 00:38:35,487 --> 00:38:37,053 That doesn't even look like me. 829 00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:38,359 That would seem to be beside the point. 830 00:38:38,403 --> 00:38:39,795 What is going on, Marissa? 831 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:41,580 Why are there hundreds of bears in our office? 832 00:38:41,623 --> 00:38:43,277 Let me find out. 833 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:46,062 Well, if you're finding out, you must have some suspicion. 834 00:38:46,106 --> 00:38:47,368 So, what is it? 835 00:38:47,412 --> 00:38:49,239 I offered some advice to a client 836 00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:50,850 who was buying a Build-A-Bear franchise. 837 00:38:50,893 --> 00:38:53,200 -My guess is this was a thank you. -What client? 838 00:38:53,243 --> 00:38:54,897 You're not a lawyer. 839 00:38:54,941 --> 00:38:56,508 Why do you have clients? 840 00:39:00,425 --> 00:39:01,513 Oh, my God. 841 00:39:01,556 --> 00:39:03,384 This is about that Copy Coop court? 842 00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:05,995 I made sure it didn't interfere with my responsibilities. 843 00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:08,171 Marissa, no. 844 00:39:08,215 --> 00:39:10,391 By participating in that simulacrum of a courtroom, 845 00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:13,176 you exposed this firm to malpractice, sanctions, 846 00:39:13,220 --> 00:39:14,526 and God knows what. 847 00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:16,702 I'm just offering the judge some advice, 848 00:39:16,745 --> 00:39:18,486 and helping him with his copyright office. 849 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:21,141 If you wish to continue your employment at this firm, 850 00:39:21,184 --> 00:39:23,099 you will never do anything like that again. 851 00:39:23,143 --> 00:39:24,100 -Do you understand? -But it's... 852 00:39:24,144 --> 00:39:26,102 No. No buts. 853 00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:28,104 Do you understand? 854 00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:30,542 I do. 855 00:39:31,804 --> 00:39:35,024 Diane, your husband and the FBI are here. 856 00:39:35,068 --> 00:39:36,374 Oh, no. 857 00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:37,418 Don't put them in the conference room. 858 00:39:37,462 --> 00:39:39,507 I... Okay. 859 00:39:39,551 --> 00:39:41,988 I think I might be a little late. 860 00:39:50,083 --> 00:39:51,432 Do we all get one? 861 00:39:51,476 --> 00:39:53,303 Or just clients? 862 00:39:56,829 --> 00:39:58,091 Wow. 863 00:39:58,134 --> 00:40:01,790 There's that, uh, calming, unnerving quiet. 864 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:03,313 [chuckles] 865 00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:06,795 -Hello. -Hi 866 00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,058 I have agreed to a ten-minute interview. 867 00:40:09,102 --> 00:40:11,583 Mr. McVeigh has to get back to work. 868 00:40:11,626 --> 00:40:12,888 Yes. Yes, I know. 869 00:40:12,932 --> 00:40:14,629 And he's been a good boy, not saying a thing. 870 00:40:14,673 --> 00:40:15,630 He's not a boy. 871 00:40:15,674 --> 00:40:18,416 No, he's not, your boy, Bill. 872 00:40:19,634 --> 00:40:21,114 Okay. Let's start. 873 00:40:21,157 --> 00:40:23,943 Just to be formal, Kurt, I'm Agent Starkey with the FBI. 874 00:40:23,986 --> 00:40:25,466 [ringtone plays ominous riff] 875 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:28,382 We understand. We don't need the musical introduction. 876 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:31,211 Okay. Um... So, Kurt. 877 00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:34,214 Those friends or your colleagues 878 00:40:34,257 --> 00:40:35,824 or whatever they are to you, or were to you, 879 00:40:35,868 --> 00:40:38,044 probably have little or no criminal liability 880 00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:40,002 for January 6. 881 00:40:40,046 --> 00:40:42,527 My concern isn't with their past. 882 00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:44,398 It's what they might do in the future. 883 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,052 He has no knowledge of that. 884 00:40:46,095 --> 00:40:48,489 Well, now that they've gotten away with, say, trespassing, 885 00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:51,927 or smearing their feces on the floor of the rotunda, 886 00:40:51,971 --> 00:40:54,016 they're emboldened to violence, 887 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:56,366 to bombs, to hostage taking. 888 00:41:00,327 --> 00:41:02,677 Does Kurt have a question? 889 00:41:02,721 --> 00:41:05,027 -No, but I do. -Oh. Pray, ask. 890 00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,289 Why do you think that? 891 00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:08,248 Why do I think they're emboldened? 892 00:41:08,291 --> 00:41:09,510 Well, I have my reasons. 893 00:41:09,554 --> 00:41:11,773 And if you tell me who they are, 894 00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:15,516 I will know and then, if need be, I can stop them. 895 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,084 My client has no knowledge of anyone plotting anything. 896 00:41:18,127 --> 00:41:21,043 Well, that does not square 897 00:41:21,087 --> 00:41:23,219 with this Dylan Pike statement. 898 00:41:23,263 --> 00:41:26,135 "Kurt McVeigh not only trained me in firearms, 899 00:41:26,179 --> 00:41:29,704 "he also laid out the strategy for entering and occupying 900 00:41:29,748 --> 00:41:31,793 the U.S. Capitol." 901 00:41:39,758 --> 00:41:41,499 Was that a comment? 902 00:41:41,542 --> 00:41:43,326 No. I have a comment. 903 00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:46,286 -Oh, come on. Bullshit. -[chuckles] 904 00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:56,470 Wow. 905 00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:59,081 I'm surprised Mr. Pike didn't accuse Kurt 906 00:41:59,125 --> 00:42:00,561 of being responsible for 9/11. 907 00:42:00,605 --> 00:42:02,563 Certainly you have a better joke than that. 908 00:42:02,607 --> 00:42:04,913 No. This isn't a joke to me. 909 00:42:04,957 --> 00:42:07,742 Dylan Pike will say anything to reduce his sentence. 910 00:42:07,786 --> 00:42:10,702 I do consider his statement with some skepticism. 911 00:42:10,745 --> 00:42:14,444 And the only way to get to the truth is with a grand jury. 912 00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:18,579 Uh, a subpoena has a tendency to sharpen the senses. 913 00:42:18,623 --> 00:42:20,059 Odd you don't have a musical cue for that. 914 00:42:20,102 --> 00:42:21,060 Hold on. 915 00:42:21,103 --> 00:42:22,322 [cartoon laughter] 916 00:42:22,365 --> 00:42:24,629 Oops. That's not right. 917 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,110 I can always subpoena you, Kurt. 918 00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:30,156 [thunder crashes] 919 00:42:36,728 --> 00:42:38,947 -MADELINE: He's a rapist. -DANIEL: An accused rapist. 920 00:42:38,991 --> 00:42:41,471 God, I'm amazed I have to say this in a room full of lawyers. 921 00:42:41,515 --> 00:42:43,952 JULIUS: Since when are we representing people like Wolfe-Coleman? 922 00:42:43,996 --> 00:42:45,432 He's the next Jeffrey Epstein. 923 00:42:45,475 --> 00:42:46,781 -MADELINE: Did you approve this, Liz? -No. 924 00:42:46,825 --> 00:42:49,131 This is the first that I am hearing of this. 925 00:42:49,175 --> 00:42:50,524 So it was Diane. Diane approved this. 926 00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:51,786 No. I... 927 00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,135 Well, I don't know. 928 00:42:53,179 --> 00:42:55,485 I have clients who will flee when they find out 929 00:42:55,529 --> 00:42:57,749 we represent this rapist. 930 00:42:57,792 --> 00:42:59,881 Oh, you mean like the Women's Coalition? Big loss. 931 00:42:59,925 --> 00:43:01,274 I know, the teddy bears. 932 00:43:01,317 --> 00:43:03,189 -I'm working on it. -No, no, no. 933 00:43:03,232 --> 00:43:05,626 Did you approve us representing Craig Wolfe-Coleman? 934 00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:06,888 No. Why? 935 00:43:06,932 --> 00:43:08,629 -Do we represent him? -Apparently, we do. 936 00:43:08,673 --> 00:43:10,500 And we're-we're just trying to get to the bottom of it. 937 00:43:10,544 --> 00:43:12,154 Without the other name partner? 938 00:43:12,198 --> 00:43:13,939 MADELINE: That's why we asked you in. 939 00:43:13,982 --> 00:43:15,331 Well, this isn't me. 940 00:43:15,375 --> 00:43:16,637 I mean, was he here? 941 00:43:16,681 --> 00:43:18,944 -Hi. Maybe I can help. -LIZ: David. 942 00:43:18,987 --> 00:43:20,423 What's going on? 943 00:43:20,467 --> 00:43:22,338 Uh, one of the associates, the new one... 944 00:43:22,382 --> 00:43:24,123 -Marissa? -No, the real one. 945 00:43:24,166 --> 00:43:25,646 -Carmen? -Right. 946 00:43:25,690 --> 00:43:28,127 She pulled in Wolfe-Coleman as a client. 947 00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:29,563 -Carmen? -MADELINE: Why? 948 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:30,651 DAVID: Because... 949 00:43:30,695 --> 00:43:31,870 Wait, why don't I go upstairs 950 00:43:31,913 --> 00:43:33,349 and get your last quarterly report. 951 00:43:33,393 --> 00:43:34,829 DIANE: Oh, come on, David. 952 00:43:34,873 --> 00:43:36,744 If Gavin Firth wants to talk to us about money, 953 00:43:36,788 --> 00:43:38,354 he should discuss it with the partners. 954 00:43:38,398 --> 00:43:40,269 Actually, Gavin was called back to London. 955 00:43:40,313 --> 00:43:41,531 I'm the new Gavin. 956 00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:45,623 STR Laurie made me your new boss. 957 00:43:45,666 --> 00:43:47,102 Hi. 958 00:43:47,146 --> 00:43:48,669 And this is what I have to say. 959 00:43:48,713 --> 00:43:51,890 More of you should be out there digging up new clients 960 00:43:51,933 --> 00:43:53,413 like this new Carmen girl. 961 00:43:53,456 --> 00:43:54,893 Two months out of law school, 962 00:43:54,936 --> 00:43:57,417 and she's got our top two clients. 963 00:43:57,460 --> 00:43:59,375 Think about it. 964 00:44:03,249 --> 00:44:05,730 Can I talk to you for a second? 965 00:44:08,036 --> 00:44:09,821 That's bad. 966 00:44:09,864 --> 00:44:11,953 -David as our boss. -Yeah. 967 00:44:11,997 --> 00:44:15,043 Yeah, but, I-- you know, I have a worse worry. 968 00:44:15,087 --> 00:44:16,392 Okay? 969 00:44:16,436 --> 00:44:18,612 We were griping about a new client, 970 00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:21,615 and two minutes later, David Lee comes running down 971 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,225 the stairs to talk to us. 972 00:44:23,269 --> 00:44:25,314 That's quite a coincidence. 973 00:44:27,142 --> 00:44:28,666 You think he bugged your office? 974 00:44:28,709 --> 00:44:30,711 I don't know. You know him better than I do. 975 00:44:30,755 --> 00:44:31,712 Would he do something like that? 976 00:44:31,756 --> 00:44:33,758 -Oh, yeah. -Great. 977 00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:35,585 So what do we do? 978 00:44:35,629 --> 00:44:37,718 Have Jay look for bugs. 979 00:44:37,762 --> 00:44:40,242 At night, when we can hide it from David. 980 00:44:40,286 --> 00:44:41,679 God. 981 00:44:41,722 --> 00:44:43,681 If we actually spent this much time lawyering, 982 00:44:43,724 --> 00:44:46,771 we'd be Supreme Court justices by now. 983 00:44:46,814 --> 00:44:48,990 Oh, wait. What is, what is going on 984 00:44:49,034 --> 00:44:50,818 with all the teddy bears in the conference room? 985 00:44:50,862 --> 00:44:53,778 It's a long story. 986 00:44:54,648 --> 00:44:56,084 If it's actually prejudicial, than even telling me 987 00:44:56,128 --> 00:44:57,651 what it is will prejudice me. 988 00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:59,609 But I don't think it is prejudicial. All I wanted... 989 00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:02,177 No. No. You say another word and I'll judge against you. 990 00:45:02,221 --> 00:45:04,092 Here's what I'll allow you. 991 00:45:04,136 --> 00:45:06,878 Four words to explain why it's not prejudicial. 992 00:45:06,921 --> 00:45:09,358 You go over that, I'll rule for the other side. 993 00:45:09,402 --> 00:45:11,621 -Your Honor... -Hey! There's two. 994 00:45:11,665 --> 00:45:13,101 Can I have those two back? 995 00:45:13,145 --> 00:45:14,624 No, but you now have six. 996 00:45:15,625 --> 00:45:18,454 Patent claim... 997 00:45:18,498 --> 00:45:21,196 -requires background. -Two more words. 998 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,416 Of prior work. 999 00:45:23,459 --> 00:45:24,852 Nope. Three words. Ruling for the defendant. 1000 00:45:24,896 --> 00:45:27,637 Your patent is approved, sir. Go with God. 1001 00:45:27,681 --> 00:45:29,378 Wait. Shake hands. Look at each other and say, 1002 00:45:29,422 --> 00:45:31,467 "I respect and I love you." 1003 00:45:31,511 --> 00:45:33,774 No, no, no, no, no. 1004 00:45:33,818 --> 00:45:35,471 That's not how we do things here, sir. 1005 00:45:35,515 --> 00:45:38,953 Due to the Bad Loser Law of last Wednesday, 1006 00:45:38,997 --> 00:45:40,476 the ruling is reversed. 1007 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,782 Judgement for the plaintiff. 1008 00:45:41,826 --> 00:45:44,306 -Yes! -Don't you dare celebrate, sir. 1009 00:45:44,350 --> 00:45:46,613 Thank you, Your Honor. 1010 00:45:46,656 --> 00:45:48,136 There's my law clerk. 1011 00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:50,704 Recess for ten minutes. 1012 00:45:54,621 --> 00:45:56,754 I can't do it. I'm sorry. 1013 00:45:58,843 --> 00:45:59,974 Why not? 1014 00:46:00,018 --> 00:46:01,062 My boss said no. 1015 00:46:02,585 --> 00:46:04,544 You don't need me anyway. 1016 00:46:04,587 --> 00:46:06,720 Let me connect you with a real lawyer. 1017 00:46:08,026 --> 00:46:09,331 Marissa, listen to me. 1018 00:46:09,375 --> 00:46:11,769 I asked you for a reason. 1019 00:46:11,812 --> 00:46:14,815 You know just enough not to crush what I'm doing here. 1020 00:46:16,774 --> 00:46:19,428 A real lawyer will look for reasons why not. 1021 00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:23,389 I need someone to look for reasons why. 1022 00:46:24,172 --> 00:46:26,131 I can find you someone. 1023 00:46:26,174 --> 00:46:27,872 I don't want someone. 1024 00:46:31,614 --> 00:46:34,052 [door opens] 1025 00:46:34,095 --> 00:46:35,793 [door closes] 1026 00:46:38,752 --> 00:46:40,754 BAILIFF: All rise. 1027 00:46:42,147 --> 00:46:44,410 [footsteps approaching] 1028 00:46:49,632 --> 00:46:51,504 Ms. Reddick, 1029 00:46:51,547 --> 00:46:54,724 you made an original and compelling argument. 1030 00:46:54,768 --> 00:46:56,857 And Your Honor, Judge Cain, 1031 00:46:56,901 --> 00:46:59,817 -I always thought you got a raw deal... -Your Honor. 1032 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,428 You don't want to interrupt me, Counselor. 1033 00:47:02,471 --> 00:47:04,865 I have to admit, I am baffled. 1034 00:47:04,909 --> 00:47:08,782 How can it be that Chumhum gets away with something 1035 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:11,567 any newspaper would go under for doing? 1036 00:47:11,611 --> 00:47:14,657 Unfortunately... 1037 00:47:14,701 --> 00:47:16,572 the law is the law. 1038 00:47:16,616 --> 00:47:18,748 It may be unfair, 1039 00:47:18,792 --> 00:47:21,055 but it is constitutional. 1040 00:47:21,099 --> 00:47:23,579 Section 230 stands, 1041 00:47:23,623 --> 00:47:26,365 and the statute ties my hands. 1042 00:47:26,408 --> 00:47:28,628 [strikes gavel] 1043 00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,552 -Mr. Cord. -[Cord laughs] 1044 00:47:41,336 --> 00:47:43,904 Ace or Queen? 1045 00:47:43,948 --> 00:47:44,905 Queen. 1046 00:47:44,949 --> 00:47:46,559 Good. 1047 00:47:46,602 --> 00:47:49,649 I just stopped by to thank you for your efforts, Ms. Reddick. 1048 00:47:49,692 --> 00:47:52,826 And to tell you that I'm quite prepared to bankroll an appeal. 1049 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:56,917 Uh, well, we are happy to handle the appeal for you 1050 00:47:56,961 --> 00:47:59,180 if that's what you would like, but, um... 1051 00:47:59,224 --> 00:48:02,140 Uh, you should know that it is probably a long shot. 1052 00:48:02,183 --> 00:48:04,794 Long shots have come through for me before. 1053 00:48:04,838 --> 00:48:07,145 You know, I have wicked arthritis in my hands, 1054 00:48:07,188 --> 00:48:08,624 and my doctor told me, 1055 00:48:08,668 --> 00:48:10,931 "Well, just squeeze a rubber ball all day," 1056 00:48:10,975 --> 00:48:13,629 but instead, I picked up a book of magic. 1057 00:48:13,673 --> 00:48:14,979 [Liz chuckles] 1058 00:48:15,022 --> 00:48:17,938 Now, I've identified 27 potential lawsuits 1059 00:48:17,982 --> 00:48:20,375 that I think might be viable. They're tricky, 1060 00:48:20,419 --> 00:48:22,812 but, uh, they've got potential. 1061 00:48:22,856 --> 00:48:24,249 And if you win, 1062 00:48:24,292 --> 00:48:26,686 the world just becomes a little more bearable. 1063 00:48:26,729 --> 00:48:28,993 -Hmm. -And, uh... 1064 00:48:29,036 --> 00:48:31,473 we are the firm that you want? 1065 00:48:31,517 --> 00:48:33,301 Oh, most definitely. 1066 00:48:33,345 --> 00:48:34,868 Talk to you soon. 1067 00:48:35,651 --> 00:48:38,002 Carmen, can I have a second? 1068 00:48:38,045 --> 00:48:39,177 Yes. 1069 00:48:39,220 --> 00:48:41,179 No, I'll go. It's my turn. 1070 00:48:45,183 --> 00:48:47,794 You're representing Craig Wolfe-Coleman? 1071 00:48:47,837 --> 00:48:49,665 I think I am. 1072 00:48:49,709 --> 00:48:51,493 Did you pursue him? 1073 00:48:51,537 --> 00:48:52,973 Of course not. 1074 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,323 You know what he's accused of? 1075 00:48:55,367 --> 00:48:58,413 Yes, I looked over the case last night. 1076 00:48:58,457 --> 00:49:00,154 And it doesn't bother you? 1077 00:49:00,198 --> 00:49:01,764 I... [scoffs] 1078 00:49:01,808 --> 00:49:03,984 Uh, I don't-- I don't understand. 1079 00:49:04,028 --> 00:49:05,638 Should it? 1080 00:49:05,681 --> 00:49:09,598 Carmen, is-is-is there anyone that you would not represent? 1081 00:49:09,642 --> 00:49:11,861 Wouldn't? 1082 00:49:11,905 --> 00:49:13,863 I... I don't understand, 1083 00:49:13,907 --> 00:49:17,345 is... is there someone you don't want me to represent? 1084 00:49:17,389 --> 00:49:19,260 Okay. Uh, no. I'm just... 1085 00:49:19,304 --> 00:49:22,568 I'm just trying to get a sense of who you are. 1086 00:49:22,611 --> 00:49:25,005 Is there anyone? 1087 00:49:25,049 --> 00:49:26,833 Someone? 1088 00:49:28,226 --> 00:49:29,575 Alan Dershowitz. 1089 00:49:29,618 --> 00:49:31,664 [laughs] Why? 1090 00:49:31,707 --> 00:49:33,579 I don't know. 1091 00:49:33,622 --> 00:49:34,972 I don't like him. 1092 00:49:37,104 --> 00:49:38,976 Okay, um... 1093 00:49:39,019 --> 00:49:40,847 All right, here's what I want. 1094 00:49:40,890 --> 00:49:42,457 As your mentor, 1095 00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:45,721 I'm going to help you with the Craig Wolfe-Coleman case. 1096 00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:46,853 Thank you. 1097 00:49:46,896 --> 00:49:48,724 And I want us to keep talking 1098 00:49:48,768 --> 00:49:49,899 about your career path. 1099 00:49:49,943 --> 00:49:51,684 Are-are you worried about me? 1100 00:49:53,164 --> 00:49:55,993 I don't know what I am about you. 1101 00:50:04,131 --> 00:50:05,698 Mr. Wackner. 1102 00:50:05,741 --> 00:50:07,265 What a surprise. 1103 00:50:07,308 --> 00:50:09,093 Ms. Lockhart. Hi. 1104 00:50:10,442 --> 00:50:12,357 I love your decor. 1105 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,054 [chuckles] 1106 00:50:14,098 --> 00:50:16,448 I'm always surprised, people come in my courtroom, 1107 00:50:16,491 --> 00:50:17,884 and they're shocked. 1108 00:50:17,927 --> 00:50:19,929 They think, "Oh, my God, it's so informal." 1109 00:50:19,973 --> 00:50:22,062 -What can I do for you, sir? -I want to hire you. 1110 00:50:22,106 --> 00:50:24,586 -You want to... -Hire you, your firm. 1111 00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:27,546 I did my research, and I'm willing to pay your retainer. 1112 00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:28,938 -Are you being sued? -No. 1113 00:50:28,982 --> 00:50:30,418 I'm creating a courtroom, 1114 00:50:30,462 --> 00:50:33,421 and I need to know what is the best way to do it. 1115 00:50:33,465 --> 00:50:34,770 Well, we don't do that, sir. 1116 00:50:34,814 --> 00:50:36,598 -But you do try to make money? -We do. 1117 00:50:36,642 --> 00:50:38,600 I'm willing to pay money. 1118 00:50:38,644 --> 00:50:40,298 I looked online. 1119 00:50:40,341 --> 00:50:43,214 One of your services is consultation on legal issues. 1120 00:50:43,257 --> 00:50:46,869 Your website is incredibly insistent on that. 1121 00:50:46,913 --> 00:50:49,481 Well, I need consultation, and I'm willing to pay. 1122 00:50:49,524 --> 00:50:52,223 Mr. Wackner, I... 1123 00:50:53,224 --> 00:50:55,400 I don't like what you're doing. 1124 00:50:55,443 --> 00:50:56,749 I know. 1125 00:50:56,792 --> 00:50:59,447 And I'm not trying to convince you. 1126 00:50:59,491 --> 00:51:01,667 I'm using your skepticism, 1127 00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:04,452 and the incentive of capitalism, 1128 00:51:04,496 --> 00:51:06,715 uh... 1129 00:51:06,759 --> 00:51:10,110 to acquire your services to, um... 1130 00:51:10,154 --> 00:51:13,853 perfect my little clubhouse of the law. 1131 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,812 I want you, 1132 00:51:16,856 --> 00:51:19,076 and I want Marissa to help me. 1133 00:51:21,513 --> 00:51:23,819 Our retainer is not, uh, 1134 00:51:23,863 --> 00:51:24,907 it-it's sizable. 1135 00:51:24,951 --> 00:51:26,039 Well, I got money. 1136 00:51:26,083 --> 00:51:27,954 Why are you doing this, sir? 1137 00:51:27,997 --> 00:51:29,477 It's not gonna benefit you. 1138 00:51:29,521 --> 00:51:32,132 It's odd. 1139 00:51:32,176 --> 00:51:35,309 I'm gonna talk for a while, so... 1140 00:51:35,353 --> 00:51:37,311 just let me. 1141 00:51:37,355 --> 00:51:39,922 Since the '80s, 1142 00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:41,968 people have been discussing everything 1143 00:51:42,011 --> 00:51:47,016 as if it's built on what can benefit or disadvantage. 1144 00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:49,976 But do you remember a time before that? 1145 00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:53,501 People used to want to write the great American novel 1146 00:51:53,545 --> 00:51:54,894 and not sell out. 1147 00:51:54,937 --> 00:51:57,505 Build a beach sculpture. 1148 00:51:57,549 --> 00:52:00,160 Fly to Ecuador, help people. 1149 00:52:00,204 --> 00:52:03,076 Can you remember the last time 1150 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,253 you heard those words, 1151 00:52:06,297 --> 00:52:08,864 "Peace Corps"? 1152 00:52:08,908 --> 00:52:10,866 I do. 1153 00:52:10,910 --> 00:52:14,740 I want a new Peace Corps. 1154 00:52:14,783 --> 00:52:17,003 For America. 1155 00:52:22,791 --> 00:52:28,188 I'll have downstairs draw up a... a retainer agreement. 1156 00:52:29,537 --> 00:52:31,322 Good. 1157 00:52:31,365 --> 00:52:32,584 Can I take a bear? 1158 00:52:32,627 --> 00:52:34,542 Oh, please do. 1159 00:52:34,586 --> 00:52:37,458 Um, take two. 1160 00:52:37,502 --> 00:52:38,807 [chuckles] 1161 00:52:38,851 --> 00:52:41,332 -Thank you very much. -Hmm. 1162 00:52:41,375 --> 00:52:44,117 -[high-pitched]: Bye-bye. -[Diane chuckles] 1163 00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:47,120 WACKNER: Hold the door. 1164 00:52:49,427 --> 00:52:51,255 Here, take one. 1165 00:52:51,298 --> 00:52:53,387 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1166 00:52:53,431 --> 00:52:56,085 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 1167 00:53:02,788 --> 00:53:06,792 ♪