1 00:00:02,336 --> 00:00:04,372 (horns honking) 2 00:00:10,844 --> 00:00:13,047 (phone buzzes, rings) 3 00:00:35,703 --> 00:00:38,172 BENNY: If something edible isn't put in front of me 4 00:00:38,206 --> 00:00:39,840 in the next three minutes, I am not responsible 5 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:40,841 for what I might do. 6 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:43,111 Don't anybody shoot Benny with a tranq gun. 7 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:45,346 I just buzzed 'em in. Food's on its way up. 8 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:46,547 Ugh, food! 9 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:49,383 * Glorious food 10 00:00:49,417 --> 00:00:52,086 * Hot sausage and mustard * 11 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,222 * Food, glorious food 12 00:00:54,255 --> 00:00:58,559 * Something, something, and cus... tard. * 13 00:01:02,430 --> 00:01:04,665 Hey. 14 00:01:04,698 --> 00:01:05,866 Hey. 15 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:06,734 DANNY: Oh, hey, Simon. 16 00:01:06,767 --> 00:01:08,769 You finally come back to say good-bye? 17 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:10,838 Hey, Simple Simon, 18 00:01:10,871 --> 00:01:13,141 stop ogling over the help and bring me over my grub. 19 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:15,309 (chuckles) 20 00:01:15,343 --> 00:01:17,611 How have you been, Simon? 21 00:01:17,645 --> 00:01:18,879 Uh, good. You know? 22 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:20,281 Just workin'. 23 00:01:20,314 --> 00:01:23,217 Uh, I'm in a bit of a hurry, actually, 24 00:01:23,251 --> 00:01:25,419 so... 25 00:01:25,453 --> 00:01:27,588 I'll walk you out. 26 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:30,124 Quite a career path he's on. 27 00:01:30,158 --> 00:01:33,794 From trial science technician to bike messenger. 28 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:35,829 (sighs) 29 00:01:38,232 --> 00:01:40,868 (sighs) Well, that was weird. 30 00:01:40,901 --> 00:01:42,870 You know what's weird? 31 00:01:42,903 --> 00:01:45,273 A guy working somewhere for four months 32 00:01:45,306 --> 00:01:47,541 and then suddenly just not showing up. 33 00:01:47,575 --> 00:01:49,343 You know what else is weird? 34 00:01:49,377 --> 00:01:51,679 Uh, somebody dating somebody 35 00:01:51,712 --> 00:01:55,283 and then, all of a sudden, they're gone. 36 00:01:55,316 --> 00:01:56,417 They've moved. 37 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:57,585 Changed their number. 38 00:01:57,618 --> 00:01:58,719 Don't show up for work. 39 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,254 E-mails bounce back. 40 00:02:00,288 --> 00:02:02,356 I'm sorry. 41 00:02:02,390 --> 00:02:04,858 I hope you weren't worried. 42 00:02:04,892 --> 00:02:05,926 Following people online 43 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:07,595 when they don't want to be followed, 44 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:09,363 that's what I do. 45 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:15,569 Three and a half weeks is kind of a long time 46 00:02:15,603 --> 00:02:17,638 to not text somebody that you care about. 47 00:02:17,671 --> 00:02:19,173 (elevator bell chimes) 48 00:02:19,207 --> 00:02:21,209 (doors open) 49 00:02:22,210 --> 00:02:24,245 I know I-I owe you an explanation, 50 00:02:24,278 --> 00:02:28,182 but... I'm trying to get this $30 bonus and, uh... 51 00:02:28,216 --> 00:02:29,650 $30. 52 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:32,920 Cool. Well, don't let me waste another second of your time. 53 00:02:32,953 --> 00:02:34,922 You can just have a nice life, Simon. 54 00:02:34,955 --> 00:02:39,193 By the way, you look like hell. 55 00:02:39,227 --> 00:02:41,462 Your eyes are bloodshot, and your hands are shaking. 56 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:45,266 Whatever you're doing, really... 57 00:02:45,299 --> 00:02:47,635 keep it up. (elevator bell chimes) 58 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:49,437 I'm sorry, Cable. 59 00:02:50,438 --> 00:02:53,341 * 60 00:03:01,415 --> 00:03:03,417 (distant siren wailing) 61 00:03:04,918 --> 00:03:09,723 * Baby, then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do * 62 00:03:09,757 --> 00:03:11,425 (excited chattering) 63 00:03:11,459 --> 00:03:12,993 * We could be married 64 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:15,529 * We could be married * 65 00:03:15,563 --> 00:03:17,365 * Then we'd be happy 66 00:03:17,398 --> 00:03:19,533 * Then we'd be happy * 67 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:22,236 (gasping) Happy birthday. 68 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:24,372 (excited chattering) 69 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:26,574 (phone buzzes, ringing) 70 00:03:32,446 --> 00:03:37,285 * You know, it seems the more we talk about it * 71 00:03:37,318 --> 00:03:42,690 * It only makes it worse to live without it * 72 00:03:42,723 --> 00:03:48,496 * But let's talk about it 73 00:03:48,529 --> 00:03:52,300 * Wouldn't it be nice? * Ooh, ooh, ooh 74 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:53,634 * Run, run, ooh 75 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:56,470 * Bah, bah-bah-bah, bah-bah-bah * 76 00:03:56,504 --> 00:03:58,306 * Bah, bah, bah 77 00:03:58,339 --> 00:04:00,974 * Good night, my baby (woman screaming) 78 00:04:01,008 --> 00:04:05,546 * Sleep tight, my baby 79 00:04:05,579 --> 00:04:08,416 * Good night, my baby 80 00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:10,851 * Sleep tight... (siren wailing) 81 00:04:10,884 --> 00:04:12,886 (elevator bell chimes) 82 00:04:16,557 --> 00:04:17,858 MARISSA: $10,000 83 00:04:17,891 --> 00:04:19,793 for Hamilton tickets, day of, 84 00:04:19,827 --> 00:04:21,929 fourth row center, from a scalper. 85 00:04:21,962 --> 00:04:24,598 It's an absolutely justifiable business expense. 86 00:04:24,632 --> 00:04:26,334 I had to pay off the court clerk. 87 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:29,403 Bull, I seriously doubt the IRS will agree 88 00:04:29,437 --> 00:04:31,071 that illegal bribes are deductible. 89 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:34,742 Marissa, if I don't have a list of the 75 potential jurors 90 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:36,677 that make up the jury pool at least a couple days 91 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:38,078 before I walk into that courtroom, 92 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:40,348 then all of those people on the other side of that door 93 00:04:40,381 --> 00:04:42,350 can't research them and help me figure out 94 00:04:42,383 --> 00:04:43,451 if I want them or not. 95 00:04:43,484 --> 00:04:45,519 And since jury lists are not supposed to be shared 96 00:04:45,553 --> 00:04:46,820 with either side, Exactly. 97 00:04:46,854 --> 00:04:47,821 the only way that I can do 98 00:04:47,855 --> 00:04:49,357 my job is to have that list. 99 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:51,359 Otherwise, I'm just guessing. 100 00:04:51,392 --> 00:04:53,394 And any fool can guess. (knocking) 101 00:04:53,427 --> 00:04:55,028 Come in! Bad time? 102 00:04:55,062 --> 00:04:57,631 No. No, no. Perfect time. 103 00:04:57,665 --> 00:04:59,500 How was the memorial service? 104 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:01,902 CABLE: Uh, I-I don't know. 105 00:05:01,935 --> 00:05:03,971 I don't have anything to compare it to. 106 00:05:04,004 --> 00:05:05,806 I've never had a friend die before. 107 00:05:07,375 --> 00:05:10,478 Is there any way I could talk to you alone? 108 00:05:10,511 --> 00:05:11,479 CABLE: I know you didn't know Simon very well. 109 00:05:11,512 --> 00:05:13,481 (sighs) Cable, 110 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:15,616 a lot of assistants come through here. 111 00:05:17,651 --> 00:05:19,920 It's no excuse. You know, the only reason 112 00:05:19,953 --> 00:05:22,390 he left here is because he couldn't do nine-to-five. 113 00:05:22,423 --> 00:05:25,826 Everything had to be his choice, all the time. 114 00:05:25,859 --> 00:05:27,495 When to wake up, what to do. 115 00:05:27,528 --> 00:05:29,697 Anyway, I'm sure somebody told you, 116 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:31,499 but he started working as a bike messenger. 117 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:33,033 It was kind of invented for him, 118 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:35,569 because he could just text when he felt like working. 119 00:05:35,603 --> 00:05:38,572 And the other thing he started to do, actually, 120 00:05:38,606 --> 00:05:40,908 about a year ago, while he was working here, 121 00:05:40,941 --> 00:05:44,512 was working as a guinea pig for pharmaceutical companies, 122 00:05:44,545 --> 00:05:46,380 testing new drugs. 123 00:05:46,414 --> 00:05:47,581 They pay a lot of money. 124 00:05:47,615 --> 00:05:49,049 And all he had to do was remember 125 00:05:49,082 --> 00:05:50,584 to take one or two pills a day. 126 00:05:50,618 --> 00:05:52,520 I know you really cared for him... 127 00:05:52,553 --> 00:05:54,121 I was talking to some of his friends. 128 00:05:54,154 --> 00:05:56,724 It turns out he was doing a trial for this company 129 00:05:56,757 --> 00:05:58,459 called Dep Pharmaceutical, 130 00:05:58,492 --> 00:06:00,761 testing this new kind of antidepressant called Eutaline. 131 00:06:00,794 --> 00:06:05,098 The people that know Simon, 132 00:06:05,132 --> 00:06:08,502 they say it was the drug that caused Simon to kill himself. 133 00:06:08,536 --> 00:06:11,104 Cable, when people are grieving... They say 134 00:06:11,138 --> 00:06:12,840 he completely changed on it. Even so, 135 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:14,575 it doesn't mean it made him suicidal. That man 136 00:06:14,608 --> 00:06:18,412 loved life. He didn't drink, he didn't smoke, he loved the gym. 137 00:06:18,446 --> 00:06:20,681 But he took pills for money. 138 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:23,417 Look, his parents want to sue. 139 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:26,720 And I told them I'd help. 140 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:31,525 And I told them I'd ask you if you'd help. 141 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:34,862 They want money? 142 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,063 They want answers. 143 00:06:36,096 --> 00:06:39,700 And they want to make sure this drug never gets to market. 144 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:43,070 And, yes, I'm sure they want money, too. 145 00:06:43,103 --> 00:06:45,673 Hmm. 146 00:06:45,706 --> 00:06:47,941 Let me call Dep Pharmaceutical, 147 00:06:47,975 --> 00:06:50,944 see if I can't put a meeting on the books for Benny and me. 148 00:06:50,978 --> 00:06:52,946 BENNY: Nice of you to do this. 149 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:54,815 Represent someone I don't remember 150 00:06:54,848 --> 00:06:56,750 on a matter I know almost nothing about 151 00:06:56,784 --> 00:06:59,587 to make his parents, whom I've never met, feel better? 152 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:01,689 Yeah, I'm a peach. (chuckles) 153 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:07,160 (heels clicking) I sense our meeting is about to begin. 154 00:07:07,194 --> 00:07:08,596 (door opens) 155 00:07:09,630 --> 00:07:13,133 Dr. Bull, you have no idea 156 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:15,469 what a treat it is for me to meet you. 157 00:07:15,503 --> 00:07:18,171 And Benjamin Colón, former ADA. 158 00:07:18,205 --> 00:07:21,642 for New York County and in-house counsel for TAC. 159 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:23,577 My name is Arti Cander. 160 00:07:23,611 --> 00:07:25,145 Please, have a seat. 161 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,583 So you know why we're here? 162 00:07:29,617 --> 00:07:31,251 Absolutely. 163 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,587 Our cofounder and CEO, Tessa Snyder, 164 00:07:33,621 --> 00:07:35,656 is beside herself about this. 165 00:07:35,689 --> 00:07:37,925 You know, any time anyone who is part 166 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:39,059 of the Dep family passes, 167 00:07:39,092 --> 00:07:41,795 no matter how minor their role in the company might be, 168 00:07:41,829 --> 00:07:43,263 it-it saddens all of us. 169 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:45,533 You do understand we believe there's a relationship 170 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:47,067 between Mr. Jones' death 171 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:50,070 and the antidepressant he was testing for Dep. 172 00:07:50,103 --> 00:07:52,540 Really? I was, uh, under the impression 173 00:07:52,573 --> 00:07:54,542 that he fell off a roof. BENNY: Mm. 174 00:07:54,575 --> 00:07:56,476 Jumped. 175 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:59,647 Well, this is the first I've heard 176 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,116 of any suicidal ideation in relationship to this drug. 177 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:05,185 Um, have you gentlemen... 178 00:08:05,218 --> 00:08:07,555 have you gentlemen done your homework? 179 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:10,190 You know, if this side effect was even on our radar, 180 00:08:10,223 --> 00:08:11,792 we wouldn't be doing human trials. 181 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:13,994 Um, FDA would simply not hear of it. 182 00:08:14,027 --> 00:08:17,264 Now, what can I do for you? 183 00:08:17,297 --> 00:08:19,166 You can shoot off a flare 184 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,569 and let everybody at the... 185 00:08:21,602 --> 00:08:22,936 Dep family 186 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:25,539 know that we're not gonna take you at your word 187 00:08:25,573 --> 00:08:27,608 that the new happy pill you're getting ready to inflict 188 00:08:27,641 --> 00:08:29,877 on the general public doesn't, in fact, 189 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:33,647 make people want to shut off the lights and call it a day. 190 00:08:33,681 --> 00:08:35,583 If you're looking for a settlement... 191 00:08:35,616 --> 00:08:37,117 Oh, no. Thank you, Ms. Cander. 192 00:08:37,150 --> 00:08:38,218 Quite the name, by the way. 193 00:08:38,251 --> 00:08:40,788 Nothing like a little irony on your driver's license 194 00:08:40,821 --> 00:08:42,656 to keep your mood in check. 195 00:08:42,690 --> 00:08:44,658 Says the man named Bull. 196 00:08:44,692 --> 00:08:46,193 Mm. Let me save you some time, 197 00:08:46,226 --> 00:08:49,563 Arti, Simon's family is not gonna settle, 198 00:08:49,597 --> 00:08:50,698 and there's no amount of money 199 00:08:50,731 --> 00:08:52,566 that's gonna convince them otherwise. 200 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,702 Oh, my. 201 00:08:54,735 --> 00:08:57,104 The famous Dr. Jason Bull, 202 00:08:57,137 --> 00:09:00,307 expert reader of human behavior, just misread me. 203 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:02,710 We have no interest in settling. 204 00:09:02,743 --> 00:09:04,578 None. 205 00:09:04,612 --> 00:09:05,779 We're very happy to prove in a court of law 206 00:09:05,813 --> 00:09:08,148 that this drug is perfectly safe. 207 00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:09,149 It may not be safe. 208 00:09:09,182 --> 00:09:10,884 A man died while taking it. Ah. 209 00:09:10,918 --> 00:09:12,786 So you say. 210 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:14,655 Then court it shall be. 211 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:17,057 Excellent. 212 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:19,793 I assume you're general counsel for Dep Pharmaceutical. 213 00:09:19,827 --> 00:09:21,729 Can I trouble you for a card? 214 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:23,864 I'm sorry to disappoint you, Dr. Bull, 215 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:26,233 but I'm not general counsel for Dep. 216 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:27,901 Then to whom have I been speaking? 217 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:29,670 I work for Tessa Snyder. 218 00:09:29,703 --> 00:09:31,872 I'm her you. 219 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:33,874 (chuckles) Excuse me? 220 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:35,609 I'm a trial scientist, Dr. Bull. 221 00:09:35,643 --> 00:09:37,778 And I very much look forward to seeing you in court. 222 00:09:37,811 --> 00:09:40,814 Please, feel free to let yourselves out. 223 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:48,221 * 224 00:09:55,729 --> 00:09:57,731 * 225 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,169 (Bull sighs) 226 00:10:05,973 --> 00:10:07,941 (door opens) BENNY: Hey. 227 00:10:07,975 --> 00:10:10,343 You gonna be joining us? 228 00:10:10,377 --> 00:10:12,345 No. Go ahead without me. 229 00:10:12,379 --> 00:10:13,546 BENNY: The big news is 230 00:10:13,580 --> 00:10:18,752 Dep Pharmaceutical is downright anxious to go to court. 231 00:10:18,786 --> 00:10:21,354 Which leads me to believe that they have rock solid 232 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:23,356 information on Simon 233 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:26,293 that they believe clears them of any culpability. 234 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,228 Cable? 235 00:10:28,261 --> 00:10:30,030 I'm digging, but, honestly, 236 00:10:30,063 --> 00:10:32,199 I don't think there's any "there" there. 237 00:10:32,232 --> 00:10:34,401 I knew Simon. We all did. 238 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:36,670 Wh-What about the company itself? 239 00:10:36,704 --> 00:10:39,139 This is Tessa Snyder, 240 00:10:39,172 --> 00:10:40,273 the company CEO. 241 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,210 A competitor once described her as "a burning hot pepper 242 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:44,878 disguised as an ice cream sundae." 243 00:10:44,912 --> 00:10:47,881 Wow. Can't wait to meet her. 244 00:10:47,915 --> 00:10:50,317 Danny? Well, I'm trying to get a list 245 00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:51,852 of the other participants in the study. 246 00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:54,087 And, believe it or not, I may have a lead. 247 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:55,422 Okay. (clicks tongue) 248 00:10:55,455 --> 00:10:58,358 Well, I guess we'll wait to hear from the big guy 249 00:10:58,391 --> 00:10:59,827 about voir dire. 250 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:01,394 What's he doing in there? 251 00:11:01,428 --> 00:11:02,462 It's not what. 252 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:04,331 It's who. 253 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:09,302 BULL: Wait a second! Isn't that London's 254 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:10,370 Arti Cander? 255 00:11:10,403 --> 00:11:12,005 Is there nothing she can't do? 256 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:14,274 Graduated with honors from Oxford, then moved to D.C. 257 00:11:14,307 --> 00:11:16,443 to became a lobbyist in the candy industry. 258 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:17,878 Tough job. No one likes candy. 259 00:11:17,911 --> 00:11:19,880 And then decided to start all over again 260 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:21,314 and enter the trial science business. 261 00:11:21,348 --> 00:11:24,284 Mm. Someone figured out how to Google. 262 00:11:24,317 --> 00:11:25,919 You left out the part 263 00:11:25,953 --> 00:11:27,387 where I spent three years at Georgetown 264 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:29,089 studying law and human behavior. 265 00:11:29,122 --> 00:11:30,257 Oh, and you. 266 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:32,492 I forgot to mention this the other day, but 267 00:11:32,525 --> 00:11:34,327 I firmly do believe that you are one 268 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:36,429 of the two best at what you do. 269 00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:37,364 Wait. Is this the part where 270 00:11:37,397 --> 00:11:39,399 I'm supposed to say, "But who's the other?" 271 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:41,802 Oh, you don't have to say it... just as long as you think it. 272 00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:44,905 So is it true you don't use mirror jurors? 273 00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:46,339 Yeah, I've never really seen the point. 274 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:47,407 It's an extrapolation once removed. 275 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,877 Then how do you know what the jurors are thinking? 276 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:52,279 I read them... all by myself. 277 00:11:52,312 --> 00:11:53,513 You should try it sometime. 278 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,415 Oh, I wouldn't know where to begin. 279 00:11:55,448 --> 00:11:58,451 Perhaps after I've had the opportunity to study you. 280 00:11:58,485 --> 00:12:02,155 Sorry. We're not taking any new students at the moment. 281 00:12:02,189 --> 00:12:03,891 I'll see you in court, Dr. Bull. 282 00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:08,395 (low conversations) 283 00:12:08,428 --> 00:12:10,497 BENNY: There he is. 284 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:14,434 Dr. Jason Bull, this is Mr. and Mrs. Jones, Simon's parents. 285 00:12:14,467 --> 00:12:16,403 Thank you for doing this, Dr. Bull. 286 00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:19,172 Well, we haven't done anything yet, but you're very welcome. 287 00:12:19,206 --> 00:12:21,775 Do you mind if I steal Mr. Colón for a moment? 288 00:12:21,809 --> 00:12:23,811 Excuse me. 289 00:12:27,214 --> 00:12:31,184 I am totally in the dark about our approach to voir dire. 290 00:12:31,218 --> 00:12:32,853 MARISSA (over earbud): That would make two of us, Bull. 291 00:12:32,886 --> 00:12:34,321 Is it as simple as finding people 292 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:36,824 who feel anger towards the pharmaceutical companies? 293 00:12:36,857 --> 00:12:38,325 'Cause there are plenty of those. 294 00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:39,827 I wish. No. 295 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:41,795 Just because people are mad at a company 296 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:43,530 or even an entire industry doesn't mean 297 00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:44,431 they're gonna side with us. 298 00:12:44,464 --> 00:12:48,135 Shared experience does not equal empathy. 299 00:12:48,168 --> 00:12:50,838 In fact, a lot of times, it's just the opposite. 300 00:12:50,871 --> 00:12:52,940 It's called the empathy gap. 301 00:12:52,973 --> 00:12:56,209 I worry that they are gonna see Simon as someone 302 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:59,446 who willingly signed up for a risky job in an industry 303 00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:01,381 famous for its greed and arrogance, 304 00:13:01,414 --> 00:13:03,350 and should have known better. 305 00:13:03,383 --> 00:13:05,352 Mm-hmm. So, what are we looking for? 306 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:07,320 Perversely, I am thinking 307 00:13:07,354 --> 00:13:11,291 of going after jurors who trust powerful corporations. 308 00:13:11,324 --> 00:13:12,625 Now I'm confused. 309 00:13:12,659 --> 00:13:14,261 I would've thought that's exactly who we don't want. 310 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,228 BULL: Think about it. 311 00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:17,965 Who better to understand what happened to Simon 312 00:13:17,998 --> 00:13:21,234 than someone who takes big companies at their word. 313 00:13:21,268 --> 00:13:23,436 We'll tell them a story about a young man 314 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:26,039 who trusted the people he worked for, 315 00:13:26,073 --> 00:13:28,575 never questioning their intentions 316 00:13:28,608 --> 00:13:31,478 or their honesty till it was too late. 317 00:13:31,511 --> 00:13:35,448 And hopefully, we'll shock 'em into siding with us. 318 00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:38,051 Mm. Well, 319 00:13:38,085 --> 00:13:41,054 at the very least, she'll never see it coming. 320 00:13:41,088 --> 00:13:43,056 MARISSA: Eddie Dunn, 33 years old. 321 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:44,958 He is a toy wholesaler, so, 322 00:13:44,992 --> 00:13:47,995 he depends on big manufacturers for his livelihood. 323 00:13:48,028 --> 00:13:50,297 He is the poster boy for the kind of juror they think 324 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:52,232 they want and think we don't. 325 00:13:52,265 --> 00:13:53,600 Excellent. This should be fun. 326 00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:55,235 ATTORNEY: Say you buy a product-- 327 00:13:55,268 --> 00:13:57,470 sandwich bags-- you get them home, 328 00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,606 but none of the zippers work. 329 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,608 What do you do? Do you drive 330 00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:03,410 all the way back to the store 331 00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:05,645 and make them exchange it for another box? 332 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:07,647 Do you, uh, write to the manufacturer? 333 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,349 Or do you just 334 00:14:09,382 --> 00:14:12,419 shrug it off, throw the box away and get on with your life? 335 00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:13,586 Me? I'd go back to the store. 336 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:16,389 Because? Any reputable store is gonna want 337 00:14:16,423 --> 00:14:18,258 to make good on that purchase. 338 00:14:18,291 --> 00:14:20,560 And so is the manufacturer, by the way. 339 00:14:20,593 --> 00:14:23,496 There's nothing to be gained by angering a customer. 340 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,365 This juror's acceptable to the defense. 341 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:28,001 He's good, but Bull's gonna strike him. 342 00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:30,203 Does the plaintiff wish to question this juror? 343 00:14:30,237 --> 00:14:32,505 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, too, Your Honor. 344 00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:34,341 Thank you. 345 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:40,313 If you have a choice, do you prefer store brand products, 346 00:14:40,347 --> 00:14:42,215 or name brand products? 347 00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:43,650 Most of the time, store brand. 348 00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:45,318 Any particular reason why? 349 00:14:45,352 --> 00:14:47,320 Bears don't use toilet paper. 350 00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:49,356 And mermaids don't drink coffee. 351 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,224 I'm not paying for the trademark. 352 00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,260 I'm paying for the product. 353 00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:54,527 That's very clever. Mm-hmm. 354 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:56,263 Move to strike, Your Honor. 355 00:14:58,131 --> 00:14:59,967 ATTORNEY: How do you feel about drug companies? 356 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,368 I wish their drugs cost less. 357 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:03,203 But then... I wish everything cost less. 358 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,205 (laughs) Hear, hear. 359 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:06,539 But notwithstanding price, 360 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,541 how do you feel about drug companies? 361 00:15:08,575 --> 00:15:11,144 I mean, do you use prescription drugs at all? 362 00:15:11,178 --> 00:15:12,946 I have a couple of prescriptions, yes. 363 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:15,182 And do they do what they're supposed to do? 364 00:15:15,215 --> 00:15:18,151 Help you with the things you need them to help with? Yes. 365 00:15:18,185 --> 00:15:20,120 Would you miss them if you didn't have them? 366 00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:21,321 Couldn't get them? 367 00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:22,589 Yes, definitely. 368 00:15:22,622 --> 00:15:24,657 So back to my first question, 369 00:15:24,691 --> 00:15:26,626 how do you feel about drug companies? 370 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:31,131 I guess I'm kind of grateful for them. 371 00:15:31,164 --> 00:15:33,033 (mouthing): She's great. 372 00:15:33,066 --> 00:15:35,602 ATTORNEY: This juror is acceptable to the defense. 373 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:37,337 And to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 374 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:40,707 Ladies and gentlemen, we have a jury. 375 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:42,642 The rest of you are dismissed. (gavel bangs) 376 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:44,644 Thank you for your time. 377 00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:48,181 Well, that was easy. 378 00:15:48,215 --> 00:15:49,582 What are you trying to pull? 379 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:50,583 What are you talking about? 380 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:52,019 You mean the jurors? 381 00:15:52,052 --> 00:15:53,953 Great minds think alike. 382 00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:56,589 You look puzzled. 383 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,291 Can't you read me? 384 00:15:58,325 --> 00:16:00,127 I'd just like to understand. That's all. 385 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,528 Oh, I'm sorry. 386 00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:04,197 We're not taking new students at the moment. 387 00:16:04,231 --> 00:16:06,233 See you in court, Ms. Cander. 388 00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:13,506 (elevator bell chimes) 389 00:16:14,541 --> 00:16:16,543 (sighs) 390 00:16:18,078 --> 00:16:20,313 (computer beeps) 391 00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:33,726 Cable. 392 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,495 Cable! (gasps) 393 00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:37,497 BENNY: So what did you discover working 394 00:16:37,530 --> 00:16:39,066 the graveyard shift? 395 00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:40,133 Bunch of stuff. 396 00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:42,669 A complete record of every delivery Simon ever made 397 00:16:42,702 --> 00:16:43,936 for Rush City Courier. 398 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:47,674 And Danny e-mailed me that she might've found another subject 399 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:50,177 in Simon's trial, and last but not least, 400 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:54,514 my very big score-- an old friend of Simon's. 401 00:16:54,547 --> 00:16:56,716 And this friend is relevant why? 402 00:16:56,749 --> 00:16:59,686 I don't know. It's really a long shot. 403 00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:03,290 But the funny thing is, I didn't even find him on the Internet. 404 00:17:03,323 --> 00:17:06,126 I dug up his application from when he worked here, 405 00:17:06,159 --> 00:17:09,229 and under emergency contact, he put this guy. 406 00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:10,663 His name is Tom Greaver. 407 00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:12,165 Never mentioned him to me 408 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:14,367 the whole time we knew each other, but 409 00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:16,236 put someone as your emergency contact, 410 00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:18,305 they've got to know a lot about you. 411 00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:20,640 Hmm. You should come to court. 412 00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:22,509 We're there because of you. 413 00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,244 MRS. JONES: Simon and I 414 00:17:24,277 --> 00:17:26,213 were incredibly close. 415 00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:30,217 We spoke twice a week-- Mondays and Thursdays. 416 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:31,584 He always called me. 417 00:17:31,618 --> 00:17:34,087 7:30 at night. 418 00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:36,423 You could set your clock by it. 419 00:17:36,456 --> 00:17:39,159 And then one Thursday, um, 420 00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:41,661 a little over two months ago, my phone didn't ring, 421 00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,631 so I worried. 422 00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:47,334 And finally, 423 00:17:47,367 --> 00:17:50,737 despite my better judgment, I called him. 424 00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,472 Did he answer? 425 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,641 Yes and no. 426 00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:56,276 How do you mean? 427 00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:59,612 It was Simon, but it wasn't my Simon. 428 00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:03,583 He just sounded different. 429 00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:05,585 Muted. 430 00:18:05,618 --> 00:18:07,687 Like some part of him had disappeared 431 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,357 or... been put away. 432 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:12,292 And did you know at this point 433 00:18:12,325 --> 00:18:15,295 that he had started the Dep drug trial three days earlier? 434 00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:16,529 No. 435 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:20,167 I just knew something was different. 436 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,269 And not for the better. 437 00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:24,304 Your witness. 438 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,207 Earth to TAC. 439 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,641 Tell me what you see. 440 00:18:28,675 --> 00:18:30,243 MARISSA: Well, because of the strategy 441 00:18:30,277 --> 00:18:31,911 you're using of starting with jurors 442 00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:34,581 who are predisposed to trust big companies, 443 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:36,849 you're at a disadvantage coming out of the box. 444 00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:38,785 You began the morning with ten red jurors 445 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,220 and only two green ones. 446 00:18:40,253 --> 00:18:41,521 And that hasn't changed. 447 00:18:41,554 --> 00:18:43,256 But she doesn't know that. 448 00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:44,824 You mean Arti? How could she? 449 00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:47,194 ATTORNEY: Our condolences, Mrs. Jones. 450 00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:50,263 You said your son seemed, uh, 451 00:18:50,297 --> 00:18:51,464 different that day. 452 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,333 He did. Did he mention 453 00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,303 to you that he had quit his job? 454 00:18:56,336 --> 00:18:57,637 No, he did not. 455 00:18:57,670 --> 00:18:59,739 Did he mention to you that he decided instead 456 00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:01,908 to become a bike messenger? 457 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:04,244 No, he did not. 458 00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:06,879 And you've already testified that he hadn't confided in you 459 00:19:06,913 --> 00:19:09,749 that he was participating in a drug trial. 460 00:19:09,782 --> 00:19:13,286 So isn't it a bit... disingenuous 461 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,555 to talk about how close you were? 462 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:18,491 And couldn't it be that the reason 463 00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:22,662 he sounded-- what word did you use?-- muted was because 464 00:19:22,695 --> 00:19:24,497 he was keeping so many secrets from you? 465 00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:25,498 BENNY: Objection! 466 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:27,867 The counselor has asked two questions in a row 467 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:29,769 without letting the witness answer. 468 00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,371 Sustained. 469 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:35,342 Mr. Hansen, if you could please ask one question 470 00:19:35,375 --> 00:19:37,244 and wait for the witness to answer. 471 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:42,715 Mrs. Jones, do you have any education 472 00:19:42,749 --> 00:19:45,918 or certification or training of any kind 473 00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:48,255 that allows you to hypothesize 474 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:50,657 from hearing someone's voice on the phone 475 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:52,692 whether they have been affected in any way 476 00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,761 by a medication they might have taken? 477 00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:57,264 No, I do not. 478 00:19:58,465 --> 00:20:01,701 No further questions. 479 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:03,803 There is so little movement here, I'm starting to wonder 480 00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:05,872 if we're having a systems failure. 481 00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:09,676 I'm trying to put a good face on this, but you're not helping. 482 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:15,615 (crowd chatter) 483 00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:19,919 Kevin? Kevin Wright? 484 00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:23,690 Hi. Um, can I ask you some questions 485 00:20:23,723 --> 00:20:26,225 about a clinical trial you participated in? 486 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,335 You were in the Dep Pharmaceutical 487 00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:37,404 antidepressant trial, yeah? 488 00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,005 That was supposed to be confidential. 489 00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:40,540 It's not something I'm really anxious 490 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:42,742 for people to know about. 491 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:44,577 I'm sorry if I startled you. 492 00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:46,879 It's just... 493 00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:50,483 one of the other participants, Simon Jones, died. 494 00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:52,752 Committed suicide, actually. 495 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:57,290 I'm just trying to figure out what happened. 496 00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:00,860 Did you know each other well? 497 00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:03,496 Uh, we never really hung out or anything, but... 498 00:21:03,530 --> 00:21:05,965 we ended up in a lot of the same trials. 499 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:08,735 Once you do one, and you see how easy it is, 500 00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:12,038 how much money they pay... 501 00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:15,007 We were both what they call healthy volunteers, 502 00:21:15,041 --> 00:21:17,710 and there was a big demand for that, so... 503 00:21:18,811 --> 00:21:20,980 I'm sorry. Uh, my head is spinning. 504 00:21:21,013 --> 00:21:22,815 It's a shock. 505 00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:25,352 Well, forgive me. What's a healthy volunteer? 506 00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:27,019 Uh, people who don't have the illness 507 00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:28,455 the drug is being tested for. 508 00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:29,622 Got it. 509 00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:30,957 Well, last question. 510 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:32,992 Why did you drop out of the study? 511 00:21:33,025 --> 00:21:35,061 KEVIN: When I'm not working at the gym, 512 00:21:35,094 --> 00:21:36,429 I'm training for marathons. 513 00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:38,631 I try to do six to eight miles a day. 514 00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:39,766 Been doing it for years. 515 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:43,703 But a couple of days after I started the Dep trial, I... 516 00:21:43,736 --> 00:21:46,806 I don't know. I... 517 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:51,344 I started having these feelings of... dread. 518 00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:54,080 I was supposed to fly to Chicago for a friend's wedding. 519 00:21:54,113 --> 00:21:56,749 Couldn't get on the plane. 520 00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:58,818 Became convinced that it was gonna crash. 521 00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:03,356 And that same weekend-- I think it was Saturday morning-- 522 00:22:03,390 --> 00:22:05,492 I couldn't get out of bed. 523 00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:08,395 Just skipped training altogether, and I never do that. 524 00:22:08,428 --> 00:22:11,063 But then the next day, Sunday, 525 00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:13,132 I'm running across Brooklyn Bridge, 526 00:22:13,165 --> 00:22:16,436 and I'm staring down at the water, 527 00:22:16,469 --> 00:22:20,039 and the next thing I know, I stop 528 00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:23,075 and I'm figuring out how to get over the rail 529 00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:27,514 and onto the crossbeam so I can jump, 530 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:29,916 because that's what my body wants to do. 531 00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:32,519 It wants to fall. 532 00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:35,488 It wants to be in the water. 533 00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:37,356 It wants to never come back up. 534 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:42,529 But I stopped myself. I... 535 00:22:42,562 --> 00:22:44,797 sat down there right on the bridge, 536 00:22:44,831 --> 00:22:46,699 tried to breathe. 537 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:49,669 Called my parents. 538 00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:51,538 I didn't want to die, 539 00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:56,042 but my mind was telling me to let go. 540 00:22:56,075 --> 00:22:57,577 There's nothing scarier than realizing your brain 541 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:59,546 is plotting against you. 542 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:05,017 No further questions, Your Honor. 543 00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:07,119 MARISSA: Ah, things are looking up. 544 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:10,156 Two of theirs just became two of ours. 545 00:23:10,189 --> 00:23:11,958 (speaking low, indistinctly) 546 00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,594 JUDGE: Does the defense have any questions for the witness? 547 00:23:15,762 --> 00:23:18,197 HANSEN: Morning, sir. 548 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,467 Do you recognize this document? 549 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,201 I-I do. 550 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,903 It's a consent form I signed 551 00:23:23,936 --> 00:23:26,539 to participate in the Dep Pharmaceutical trial. 552 00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,441 And, uh, is this your signature 553 00:23:28,475 --> 00:23:29,976 at the bottom of it? 554 00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:31,143 It is. 555 00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:33,079 And, uh, can you tell us the purpose 556 00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:35,882 of the mandatory washout period? 557 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:39,452 It's mentioned in the third paragraph there. 558 00:23:39,486 --> 00:23:43,990 It's, uh, the period of time between drug trials. 559 00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:46,559 It's something the companies insist on. 560 00:23:46,593 --> 00:23:49,662 It exists to make sure their drugs don't interact 561 00:23:49,696 --> 00:23:52,064 with someone else's drugs from an earlier trial. 562 00:23:52,098 --> 00:23:54,200 I think we've just been "Candered." 563 00:23:54,233 --> 00:23:56,903 HANSEN: And on this form you signed, 564 00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:59,572 how long is the specified washout period? 565 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:01,874 It specifies 30 days. 566 00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:03,209 30 days. 567 00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:06,045 And what were you doing 27 days 568 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:09,816 before you started the Dep Pharmaceutical trial? 569 00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:11,751 Remember, you are under oath. 570 00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:14,220 Well, I was doing a lot of things. 571 00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:19,826 But, uh, one of them was, I was finishing up 572 00:24:19,859 --> 00:24:22,161 the Manhattan Hill Medical painkiller trial. 573 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,263 Last day, last dose. 574 00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:25,965 And do you happen to know if Simon Jones 575 00:24:25,998 --> 00:24:28,668 was in that trial as well? 576 00:24:28,701 --> 00:24:30,737 Um, yes, he was. 577 00:24:30,770 --> 00:24:32,905 What drug trial are they talking about? 578 00:24:32,939 --> 00:24:34,206 Where are they getting this 579 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,042 and why don't we have it? 580 00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:38,511 HANSEN: Is 27 days the same thing as 30 days? 581 00:24:38,545 --> 00:24:39,846 KEVIN: Of course not. HANSEN: Then how do you know 582 00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:41,280 it wasn't the interaction of the painkiller 583 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:42,949 with the antidepressant that caused 584 00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:44,917 the suicidal ideation the two of you experienced? 585 00:24:44,951 --> 00:24:48,220 Because... I know. 586 00:24:48,254 --> 00:24:51,290 Look, we've done so many of these things. 587 00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:54,193 And it's... everyone does it. 588 00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:56,796 No further questions. 589 00:25:10,309 --> 00:25:12,144 I don't understand. You interviewed Kevin. DANNY: Yeah. 590 00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:14,313 Obviously he didn't tell me that he and Simon 591 00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:16,649 weren't living up to their consent form agreements. BULL: Well. 592 00:25:16,683 --> 00:25:19,919 And there was no way of knowing about the other drug trial. 593 00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:23,055 Drug trials in the research stages of pre-FDA approval 594 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:24,724 don't need to be reported. 595 00:25:24,757 --> 00:25:27,293 Well, Dep knew about it. BENNY: No. 596 00:25:27,326 --> 00:25:30,730 My guess is, Manhattan Hill Medical tipped them off. 597 00:25:30,763 --> 00:25:34,066 These drug companies are fiercely competitive, 598 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,169 but they don't like the idea of being taken to the cleaners 599 00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:40,272 by some guinea pig that they use to pay chump change 600 00:25:40,306 --> 00:25:41,340 to test their new products. 601 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:42,775 Where are we with the jurors? 602 00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:44,611 Ten against us, two for us. 603 00:25:44,644 --> 00:25:46,646 There's no movement at all? 604 00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:48,915 Sometimes it goes to 11 against us. 605 00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:53,119 How about that emergency contact guy? Tom? 606 00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,187 Tom Greaver. I can't find him. 607 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,624 Nor can I. 608 00:25:57,657 --> 00:25:59,659 He's virtually invisible online. 609 00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:02,161 What about tracking down other participants in Simon's trial? 610 00:26:02,194 --> 00:26:04,096 (scoffs) We're all trying. 611 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:08,067 Okay. Who is, uh, our next witness, counselor? 612 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:12,071 We, uh, really don't have one. 613 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,942 Terrific. 614 00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:17,944 Tomorrow morning when we rest our non-case, 615 00:26:17,977 --> 00:26:19,912 the only mystery will be, 616 00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:22,214 is the defense gonna have a field day toying with us, 617 00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:25,384 or will they be humane and ask for an immediate dismissal? 618 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:28,387 I'm sorry, Dr. Bull. 619 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,857 I never should have come to you with this. 620 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:34,160 Well, that's why I normally make it a point 621 00:26:34,193 --> 00:26:36,629 not to work on behalf of immature slackers 622 00:26:36,663 --> 00:26:38,097 who quit without notice, 623 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:39,866 lie without giving it a second thought, 624 00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:42,034 and jump off rooftops without any regard 625 00:26:42,068 --> 00:26:44,871 for the people they leave behind. 626 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:47,674 But that's just me. 627 00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:51,410 (sniffles) 628 00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:53,646 (door closes) 629 00:26:55,014 --> 00:26:56,983 (knocking on glass) He's busy. 630 00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:59,018 (door opens, footsteps approaching) 631 00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:03,255 Pretty, uh... 632 00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:05,992 Pretty savage out there, huh? 633 00:27:06,025 --> 00:27:08,728 I don't like to lose. 634 00:27:08,761 --> 00:27:10,296 The case or the girl? 635 00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:12,031 Oh, please. 636 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:16,302 No. You didn't do us any favors with the jury. 637 00:27:16,335 --> 00:27:20,372 Only people who trust corporations? That... 638 00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:22,775 That is a hell of a mountain to climb 639 00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:26,679 when you're trying to prove corporate malfeasance. 640 00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:29,916 And don't try to tell me it wasn't for that girl. 641 00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:32,785 "I'm Dr. Bull. Here... 642 00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:34,921 "I'll give you the jurors that you want, 643 00:27:34,954 --> 00:27:37,189 and I'll still beat you, right?" 644 00:27:37,223 --> 00:27:38,891 You happy now? 645 00:27:38,925 --> 00:27:40,392 You rode to the rescue and reminded me 646 00:27:40,426 --> 00:27:42,461 there's plenty of blame to go around. 647 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,397 Benny the hero. 648 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:47,700 Now leave me alone. 649 00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:49,235 I'm preparing for tomorrow. 650 00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:55,708 (door opens) 651 00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,710 (gavel bangs) 652 00:27:57,744 --> 00:27:59,211 JUDGE: Mr. Hansen, call your first witness. 653 00:27:59,245 --> 00:28:00,780 HANSEN: The defense would like 654 00:28:00,813 --> 00:28:02,782 to call Tom Greaver to the stand. 655 00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:09,321 How the hell did they find him? (door closes) 656 00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:13,025 The more important question is... why? 657 00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:17,429 TOM: We met in college. 658 00:28:17,463 --> 00:28:19,465 Liked all the same stuff-- 659 00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:21,901 drinking beers, listening to music. 660 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:23,469 Drinking beers? 661 00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:24,937 You know, on Simon's consent form, 662 00:28:24,971 --> 00:28:26,505 he said that he doesn't drink. 663 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,307 Well, this was a long time ago. 664 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,909 We were 18. 665 00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:32,278 I'm pretty sure he was telling the truth. 666 00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:34,313 In fact, I'm certain of it. 667 00:28:34,346 --> 00:28:36,348 And what makes you so certain? 668 00:28:36,382 --> 00:28:38,150 Did something happen? 669 00:28:38,184 --> 00:28:40,953 Yeah. 670 00:28:40,987 --> 00:28:45,491 Around the same time, freshman year, 671 00:28:45,524 --> 00:28:47,794 Simon OD'd on heroin. 672 00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:49,495 (gasps) (shocked murmuring) 673 00:28:49,528 --> 00:28:50,496 Oh, my God. 674 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,164 No. 675 00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:54,466 Happened at my house. 676 00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,003 He came home with me one weekend. 677 00:28:57,036 --> 00:29:00,039 My mom was an emergency room nurse 678 00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:01,740 and she saved him by giving him Narcan. 679 00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,011 No one ever knew. 680 00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:06,278 There was no record. 681 00:29:08,815 --> 00:29:10,817 I know his parents never knew. 682 00:29:11,851 --> 00:29:13,485 After that... 683 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,089 ...he just went completely sober. 684 00:29:17,123 --> 00:29:20,927 No drugs, no alcohol, no nothing. 685 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,795 You think the overdose was intentional? 686 00:29:22,829 --> 00:29:25,064 Objection. Counselor calling for speculation. 687 00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:27,299 I'll withdraw the question. 688 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,902 Yeah, but he can't withdraw the inference. 689 00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:32,304 She's good, damn it. 690 00:29:32,338 --> 00:29:34,807 She's killing us. 691 00:29:34,841 --> 00:29:37,443 She is representing her client like a pit bull, 692 00:29:37,476 --> 00:29:39,245 and she's not gonna let a pesky thing 693 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:40,913 like the truth stand in her way. 694 00:29:40,947 --> 00:29:42,114 MARISSA: Bull, I'm sorry to interrupt, 695 00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:45,151 but we just went to 12 red jurors. 696 00:29:45,184 --> 00:29:46,552 (computer beeps) Yes! Yes, I got it. 697 00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:48,120 I got it. 698 00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:50,857 Tell them to request a recess, a break. 699 00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:52,992 I found him. 700 00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:54,593 I found Tom Greaver. 701 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:57,163 He changed his name. 702 00:30:02,168 --> 00:30:03,535 So we misdirect here, then we... 703 00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:05,237 BENNY: Cable. 704 00:30:05,271 --> 00:30:07,406 Thank you for these. 705 00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:14,246 I'm really glad you came. 706 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,982 Yeah. 707 00:30:16,015 --> 00:30:17,383 Hope it makes a difference. 708 00:30:17,416 --> 00:30:19,418 Oh, I think it might. 709 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:23,522 I'm glad you came, too. 710 00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:26,425 And if I was harsh last night... 711 00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:29,061 Oh, you were. 712 00:30:29,095 --> 00:30:31,297 But we've been together a while, 713 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:33,199 so I know it's only because you care. 714 00:30:33,232 --> 00:30:34,967 I hate to lose. 715 00:30:37,103 --> 00:30:38,604 Let's go with yours. 716 00:30:38,637 --> 00:30:41,273 BENNY: That was, uh... 717 00:30:41,307 --> 00:30:43,242 quite a fascinating story you told 718 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,311 about your friend Simon just before we adjourned. 719 00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:48,080 It wasn't a story. 720 00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,482 I didn't mean to imply anything, Mr. Greaver. 721 00:30:50,516 --> 00:30:53,485 But I am curious. 722 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,423 Your mom kept Narcan at home? 723 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,358 Well, like I said, she was an emergency room nurse. 724 00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:01,193 Still... 725 00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:05,264 was she anticipating your best friend suffering an overdose 726 00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:07,633 or was she just the best prepared mom on the block? 727 00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:09,435 Objection. Calls for speculation, 728 00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:11,470 and counselor's tone is provocative. 729 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:12,638 I'll withdraw the question. 730 00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:15,274 Now, if I wanted 731 00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:18,244 to corroborate this story, who can I speak to? 732 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,379 Say, your mom, or...? 733 00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:21,948 Unfortunately, she passed four years ago. 734 00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:24,316 I'm so sorry to hear that. 735 00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:28,254 Okay. All right. So-so-so let's review. 736 00:31:28,287 --> 00:31:29,922 Your mother's no longer with us. 737 00:31:29,956 --> 00:31:31,523 Simon is no longer with us. 738 00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:33,692 Really, the only person that we can rely on 739 00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:36,495 regarding the truthfulness of the story is-is you. 740 00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:38,097 Isn't that correct? 741 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:40,299 Yeah. I suppose that's true. 742 00:31:40,332 --> 00:31:43,235 The only reason I mention it, is... 743 00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:47,539 we can't find any history whatsoever on Simon, 744 00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:50,176 with regard to drug use. 745 00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:52,278 None. 746 00:31:52,311 --> 00:31:56,215 But there is quite a dossier on a fellow named Tom Belmond, 747 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:58,951 who went to college with you and Simon. 748 00:31:58,985 --> 00:32:02,254 Arrests for, uh, possession. 749 00:32:02,288 --> 00:32:03,555 Arrests for sales of narcotics. 750 00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,124 Three hospitalizations 751 00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:07,293 for overdoses, and then, 752 00:32:07,326 --> 00:32:08,660 ultimately, of course, expulsion. 753 00:32:08,694 --> 00:32:10,296 BULL: What's that sound? 754 00:32:10,329 --> 00:32:12,464 Is that the sound of jurors starting to move? 755 00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:15,334 Do you happen to know a Tom Belmond? 756 00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:17,569 I'm-I'm sorry. 757 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:19,538 I-I didn't hear your response. 758 00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:21,307 You ever hear of a Tom Belmond? 759 00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:25,444 I see, you're-you're having trouble with this. 760 00:32:25,477 --> 00:32:28,714 Okay. All right. I-I'll make it a little easier for you. 761 00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:31,617 Aren't you Tom Belmond? 762 00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:34,186 Objection. Is the attorney asking questions 763 00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:36,355 or making third party pronouncements? 764 00:32:36,388 --> 00:32:37,389 Sustained. 765 00:32:37,423 --> 00:32:38,724 Ask a question, counselor. 766 00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:40,392 I'm sorry, Your Honor. 767 00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:42,528 You just got back your two jurors from yesterday. 768 00:32:42,561 --> 00:32:44,997 I feel the wind shifting. BENNY: Didn't you change your name 769 00:32:45,031 --> 00:32:47,366 from Tom Belmond to Tom Greaver precisely, 770 00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:49,035 so you can avoid having to mention 771 00:32:49,068 --> 00:32:50,769 your arrest history, your history with drugs, 772 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:53,239 while seeking employment and housing... 773 00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:55,774 I wanted a fresh start, okay? 774 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:58,044 I made a lot of mistakes as a kid, but... 775 00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,446 MARISSA: One more just came over. 776 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:03,182 We are now at nine red and three green. BENNY: And isn't it true 777 00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:05,317 your mother smuggled Narcan out of the emergency room, 778 00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:07,453 not because she was worried about Simon, 779 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,421 who had no interest in drugs, 780 00:33:09,455 --> 00:33:11,223 but because she was terrified 781 00:33:11,257 --> 00:33:13,092 that her own son might overdose one day? 782 00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,360 Objection. And the story 783 00:33:14,393 --> 00:33:17,396 about Simon Jones attempting to commit suicide 784 00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,298 eight years ago with heroin was just that. 785 00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:21,333 It was just a story, right? Objection. 786 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:24,303 Again, these are pronouncements, not questions, Your Honor. 787 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,472 One more green light. 788 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,640 They've got eight, and we've got four. 789 00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,442 Now the fun really begins. 790 00:33:30,476 --> 00:33:32,544 Well, then, here's the question: how much did Dep pay you 791 00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:35,147 to take the stand and perjure yourself today, 792 00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:36,782 Mr. Greaver or Mr. Belmond, 793 00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:38,550 or whoever you say you are?! Objection, 794 00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:40,119 Your Honor. Sustained. 795 00:33:40,152 --> 00:33:41,487 No problem, Your Honor. 796 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,689 Question withdrawn. (galley murmuring) 797 00:33:43,722 --> 00:33:45,391 I think I'd rather not know. 798 00:33:45,424 --> 00:33:47,559 No further questions, please. 799 00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:50,162 How's that for an inference? 800 00:33:50,196 --> 00:33:51,330 MARISSA: Now we've got five, 801 00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:52,531 and they've got seven. 802 00:33:52,564 --> 00:33:53,699 BULL: Nice work. 803 00:33:53,732 --> 00:33:56,135 JUDGE: Court will resume tomorrow morning. (gavel bangs) 804 00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:00,172 Read any good jurors lately? 805 00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:01,640 Well, yes, I have. 806 00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:04,476 And I suspect that you have, too. 807 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,378 But we both know that I'm reading 808 00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:07,813 more good jurors than you are, Dr. Bull, 809 00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:10,216 so stop trying to play with me. 810 00:34:10,249 --> 00:34:12,284 Although, I suspect 811 00:34:12,318 --> 00:34:15,487 that at some point, we might get to that, too. 812 00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,490 (traffic sounds) 813 00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:24,096 (pounding on door) 814 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,268 Hi. Sorry to bother you. 815 00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,303 I'm looking for Edgar Paulson? 816 00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:38,710 CHUNK: Mr. Paulson's name 817 00:34:38,744 --> 00:34:40,446 is on a list of people who participated 818 00:34:40,479 --> 00:34:42,514 in a drug trial that we're investigating. 819 00:34:42,548 --> 00:34:44,450 (chuckles): It took me a while to track him down. 820 00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:46,485 Is there any way I could speak to him? 821 00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:49,621 I'm sorry. Uh, Mr. Paulson's no longer with us. 822 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:53,492 Is there any way you could share a forwarding address? 823 00:34:53,525 --> 00:34:55,294 Some way to contact him? 824 00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:59,398 Mr. Paulson hung himself 825 00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,467 about three and a half weeks ago. 826 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,402 (exhales) 827 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:05,704 I'm so sorry. 828 00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:07,373 I had no idea. 829 00:35:07,406 --> 00:35:09,508 I actually checked all the names on this list 830 00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:11,443 for deaths and hospitalizations. 831 00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:13,545 I don't know how that got past me. 832 00:35:13,579 --> 00:35:15,581 I'm sure it'll show up shortly. 833 00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:17,183 The woman who took care of him, 834 00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:19,518 she struck me as very thorough. 835 00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:20,886 A woman? 836 00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,689 Well, someone he worked with. Or for. 837 00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:25,657 She would stop by here. 838 00:35:25,691 --> 00:35:27,559 Make sure he took his medicine. 839 00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:29,695 Gave him money occasionally. 840 00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:32,464 She stopped by to see him the morning we found him. 841 00:35:32,498 --> 00:35:34,733 She was terribly upset. 842 00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,868 Took care of all the details. 843 00:35:36,902 --> 00:35:39,438 Even paid for his cremation. 844 00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:43,275 Would you happen to have her name? This woman? 845 00:35:43,309 --> 00:35:44,376 TESSA: My name is Tessa Snyder. 846 00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:48,414 I am Chief Executive Officer for Dep Pharmaceutical. 847 00:35:48,447 --> 00:35:50,249 Have been for about three years now. 848 00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:51,650 And can you tell the jury 849 00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:53,452 what we're doing here today? 850 00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:56,422 And by that I mean we all know drug companies 851 00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:59,225 face legal actions like this all the time. 852 00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:01,293 Usually they're settled out of court. 853 00:36:01,327 --> 00:36:04,663 But why did you, a young CEO, choose to fight this out 854 00:36:04,696 --> 00:36:06,465 in a public forum? BULL: Nice move. 855 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:09,435 She's turning the very fact that we're suing her client 856 00:36:09,468 --> 00:36:11,837 into a laudable thing in the eyes of the jury. 857 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,805 I may steal that. 858 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:18,477 One, this company has an unblemished record 859 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,213 with regard to drug and testing safety. 860 00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:24,783 And two, this new drug-- 861 00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:27,586 the first created under my leadership-- 862 00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:30,522 is truly a pharmaceutical miracle 863 00:36:30,556 --> 00:36:32,958 for people who suffer from depression. 864 00:36:32,991 --> 00:36:36,862 I welcomed the opportunity to tell the court, 865 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:38,964 the jury, the world, about it. 866 00:36:38,997 --> 00:36:40,532 And can you tell the jury 867 00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:42,568 why you conduct 868 00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:45,237 these clinical trials? 869 00:36:45,271 --> 00:36:46,672 Well, the first thing you need to know 870 00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:50,542 is I got into this business to help ease 871 00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:51,910 human suffering. 872 00:36:51,943 --> 00:36:53,779 I mention that 873 00:36:53,812 --> 00:36:57,349 because I need you to know how deeply sorry I am 874 00:36:57,383 --> 00:36:58,550 for the Jones family's loss. 875 00:36:58,584 --> 00:37:01,353 BULL: Excellent segue. Nicely written. 876 00:37:01,387 --> 00:37:02,954 Nicely performed. 877 00:37:02,988 --> 00:37:04,656 Having said that, 878 00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:06,758 we did nothing wrong. 879 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:09,561 Simon was screened. 880 00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:12,398 The fact that he was not completely truthful 881 00:37:12,431 --> 00:37:13,732 is not something we can control. 882 00:37:13,765 --> 00:37:14,966 MARISSA: Just so you know, 883 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,303 our mirror jury is loving her. 884 00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:18,437 How can you not? 885 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:25,411 And while we need to do better 886 00:37:25,444 --> 00:37:26,578 to ferret out the liars, 887 00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:28,647 we can't let it stop our work. 888 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,949 These clinical trials exist for the greater good. 889 00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:32,884 Without them, 890 00:37:32,918 --> 00:37:36,422 there wouldn't be medical innovations and discoveries, 891 00:37:36,455 --> 00:37:37,856 new cures for everything 892 00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:40,459 from reproductive health to cancer. 893 00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:41,827 BULL: Something's going on. 894 00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:44,596 She's targeting juror three. Why? 895 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:46,798 Well, she's one of our greens, and she just went red. 896 00:37:46,832 --> 00:37:49,735 Her friend recently passed from cancer. 897 00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:53,439 Wow. This woman will do anything to win. 898 00:37:53,472 --> 00:37:54,973 Reminds me of me. 899 00:37:58,644 --> 00:38:00,646 BENNY: Good morning, Ms. Snyder. 900 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:02,714 Isn't it true that one of the major problems 901 00:38:02,748 --> 00:38:06,685 these clinical trials face is recruiting subjects? 902 00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:10,556 I mean... I can't believe that there's lots of people 903 00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:13,725 who are willing to put untested drugs into their bodies 904 00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:15,727 for whatever you're willing to pay them. 905 00:38:15,761 --> 00:38:18,764 Well, it's certainly a lot easier 906 00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:20,832 to find subjects who suffer from whatever condition 907 00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:21,933 we're trying to target. 908 00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:24,470 Yes. 909 00:38:24,503 --> 00:38:26,405 It can be incredibly difficult 910 00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:28,640 finding healthy volunteers. 911 00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:30,842 Truly healthy volunteers. 912 00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:34,780 BENNY: And yet, until this drug, until this lawsuit, 913 00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:36,948 your company had a rare spotless record. 914 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:39,351 None of the healthy volunteers 915 00:38:39,385 --> 00:38:41,119 in the 50 so years 916 00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:42,954 that the company has been in existence ever... 917 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,624 filed a claim or sought a settlement. 918 00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,426 Is that why 919 00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:48,660 you decided to hide the other suicide 920 00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:50,396 amongst the ten healthy volunteers? 921 00:38:50,429 --> 00:38:51,830 (shocked murmuring) 922 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,102 I love that sound. 923 00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:59,471 Me, too. 924 00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:01,139 I have no idea what you're talking about. 925 00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:03,809 Well, does the name Edgar Paulson ring a bell? 926 00:39:05,611 --> 00:39:08,980 Edgar Paulson? 927 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:10,882 A 62-year-old homeless man 928 00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:13,151 with dubious mental acuity 929 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:16,021 who, up until the point that he hung himself, 930 00:39:16,054 --> 00:39:19,891 was living at the Light Mission Homeless Shelter? 931 00:39:19,925 --> 00:39:22,561 Is that Dep Pharmaceutical's idea 932 00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,396 of a healthy volunteer? 933 00:39:25,764 --> 00:39:27,799 MARISSA: Things are looking greener and greener over here. 934 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:31,437 I think you're mistaken. 935 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,805 Mr. Paulson was in absolutely fine... 936 00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:36,742 physical and mental shape. 937 00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:39,077 He had fallen on hard times financially, 938 00:39:39,110 --> 00:39:41,680 and that had taken a toll on his disposition. 939 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,550 But from a purely clinical standpoint, 940 00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:46,652 Mr. Paulson was an ideal subject. 941 00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:50,456 Additionally, he finished the trial successfully. 942 00:39:50,489 --> 00:39:53,191 Anything that may have befallen him after that... 943 00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:54,860 Six days after that? 944 00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,628 Again, Mr. Paulson 945 00:39:56,662 --> 00:40:00,599 suffered from crushing financial problems. 946 00:40:00,632 --> 00:40:03,802 I can only speculate that that may be why he took his own life. 947 00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:06,972 There's no causation there. Ah. 948 00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:09,741 I guess we'll never know, will we, Ms. Snyder? 949 00:40:09,775 --> 00:40:12,544 Since you conveniently paid for the body to be cremated. 950 00:40:12,578 --> 00:40:13,779 (shocked murmuring) 951 00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:14,813 Objection. 952 00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:16,815 Relevance. 953 00:40:16,848 --> 00:40:17,916 Doesn't get more relevant than that. 954 00:40:17,949 --> 00:40:21,487 But please ask the witness a question 955 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,789 as opposed to simply making a statement. 956 00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:26,825 Yes. Ms. Snyder, 957 00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:29,761 did you or did you not 958 00:40:29,795 --> 00:40:32,598 arrange for the cremation of Mr. Edgar Paulson 959 00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:34,900 once you realized he had killed himself 960 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,903 after a one month course of your new drug? 961 00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:42,240 (whispering) 962 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:44,743 Ms. Snyder? 963 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,514 BULL: Three... 964 00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:51,116 two... 965 00:40:52,818 --> 00:40:54,052 ...one. 966 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:59,525 Your Honor, would it be possible to ask for a brief recess 967 00:40:59,558 --> 00:41:00,926 so the sides could meet privately 968 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:02,661 for a short discussion? 969 00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,930 Can you say "settlement"? 970 00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:07,132 JUDGE: This court will take a 90 minute recess. 971 00:41:07,165 --> 00:41:08,734 (gavel bangs) 972 00:41:08,767 --> 00:41:10,135 (gallery murmuring) 973 00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:27,986 (gentle piano music plays in background) 974 00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:29,955 (door opens) 975 00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:32,023 (door closes) BULL: Oh. 976 00:41:32,057 --> 00:41:35,561 There you are. 977 00:41:35,594 --> 00:41:37,863 Here I am. Oh. 978 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,899 Miss? Uh, your oldest Scotch. Neat. 979 00:41:40,932 --> 00:41:42,601 And a glass of water, please. 980 00:41:42,634 --> 00:41:43,869 Okay. (chuckles) 981 00:41:43,902 --> 00:41:45,704 (sighs) 982 00:41:45,737 --> 00:41:47,739 You read my mind. 983 00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:49,841 But, then again, that's what you do. 984 00:41:49,875 --> 00:41:52,110 And you do it very well, by the way. 985 00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:57,649 I, uh... 986 00:41:59,284 --> 00:42:02,588 I need you to know something. 987 00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,823 I didn't bribe that friend of Simon's. 988 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:06,658 I'm not saying 989 00:42:06,692 --> 00:42:08,994 that I didn't sense that something might be afoot, but... 990 00:42:09,027 --> 00:42:11,096 I need you to know something. 991 00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:14,966 In the same way you inferred, without saying as much, 992 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,235 that Simon attempted suicide with heroin-- 993 00:42:17,268 --> 00:42:20,572 even though I strongly suspect that's not what happened-- 994 00:42:20,606 --> 00:42:23,274 Benny and I 995 00:42:23,308 --> 00:42:27,078 decided to infer a little something 996 00:42:27,112 --> 00:42:29,581 that we had no way of knowing was true. 997 00:42:29,615 --> 00:42:31,316 Maybe someone bribed him. 998 00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:34,352 Maybe someone didn't. 999 00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:35,987 We took a shot. 1000 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,058 Thank you. 1001 00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:44,062 Great minds. 1002 00:42:44,095 --> 00:42:46,197 Here's to seeing you again. 1003 00:42:46,231 --> 00:42:48,033 Knowing better next time. 1004 00:42:48,066 --> 00:42:49,768 I already rue the day. 1005 00:42:49,801 --> 00:42:51,803 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1006 00:42:52,804 --> 00:42:54,806 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org