1 00:00:09,378 --> 00:00:11,467 LILY: It was raining. 2 00:00:11,510 --> 00:00:14,383 One of those scary, pounding rains 3 00:00:14,426 --> 00:00:15,993 where the wind makes it sound 4 00:00:16,037 --> 00:00:18,430 like a locomotive is right outside your window. 5 00:00:18,474 --> 00:00:20,998 We were all asleep. 6 00:00:21,042 --> 00:00:23,348 But even with the sound of the winds howling, 7 00:00:23,392 --> 00:00:27,352 there was all of a sudden this boom. 8 00:00:27,396 --> 00:00:30,703 I thought that a helicopter or a plane had fallen 9 00:00:30,747 --> 00:00:32,749 into the building. 10 00:00:37,145 --> 00:00:40,104 My friends Claire and Finn were lying in bed together 11 00:00:40,148 --> 00:00:42,454 when they were crushed by the weight of the beam 12 00:00:42,498 --> 00:00:44,456 as it crashed through the ceiling. 13 00:00:48,286 --> 00:00:51,507 This building was built in the 1870s. 14 00:00:51,550 --> 00:00:55,728 It was a cigar factory for 75 years. 15 00:00:56,773 --> 00:00:58,905 Then it was a sweatshop 16 00:00:58,949 --> 00:01:01,647 for another 20 or so. 17 00:01:01,691 --> 00:01:05,999 Then a import-export warehouse, I think. 18 00:01:06,043 --> 00:01:07,653 Then about five years ago, 19 00:01:07,697 --> 00:01:10,526 the city came around and told the owner 20 00:01:10,569 --> 00:01:12,963 that he'd have to make a lot of improvements 21 00:01:13,006 --> 00:01:15,183 if he wanted to keep leasing the space. 22 00:01:15,226 --> 00:01:17,620 Indoor plumbing, for one thing. 23 00:01:17,663 --> 00:01:21,102 Decent heat and electric. 24 00:01:21,145 --> 00:01:23,104 Owner said no. 25 00:01:23,147 --> 00:01:25,236 Apparently, he lives in Asia somewhere. 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,109 So they've been in a standoff ever since. 27 00:01:30,198 --> 00:01:31,895 CHUNK: And no one ever noticed 28 00:01:31,938 --> 00:01:34,550 a dozen squatters living in here? 29 00:01:41,078 --> 00:01:42,688 Lily... 30 00:01:42,732 --> 00:01:44,734 did you know that your friend Claire 31 00:01:44,777 --> 00:01:46,910 came from a wealthy family? 32 00:01:46,953 --> 00:01:48,912 I had no idea. 33 00:01:48,955 --> 00:01:50,653 I looked at the court papers. 34 00:01:50,696 --> 00:01:52,307 You're the only one named. 35 00:01:52,350 --> 00:01:54,483 The only one being sued. 36 00:01:54,526 --> 00:01:58,008 Any idea why Claire's mother would single you out? 37 00:01:59,052 --> 00:02:02,143 I guess because I found the place, 38 00:02:02,186 --> 00:02:04,145 told everybody else about it. 39 00:02:04,188 --> 00:02:07,017 Nah. I think there's got to be more. 40 00:02:08,279 --> 00:02:12,109 I'm worried that... it's about something else. 41 00:02:12,153 --> 00:02:15,547 Sometimes when people can't convince the district attorney 42 00:02:15,591 --> 00:02:19,029 to bring criminal charges, they'll file a civil suit. 43 00:02:19,072 --> 00:02:20,987 Think of it as a dress rehearsal, 44 00:02:21,031 --> 00:02:23,729 a way that a plaintiff can convince a D.A. 45 00:02:23,773 --> 00:02:26,558 that there's a case worth trying here. 46 00:02:26,602 --> 00:02:28,473 So what are you saying? 47 00:02:28,517 --> 00:02:31,041 I'm saying that if we don't win this first case, 48 00:02:31,084 --> 00:02:32,912 we might be looking at a second one, 49 00:02:32,956 --> 00:02:37,700 one where you're facingup to ten to 15 years in prison. 50 00:02:39,615 --> 00:02:41,791 She was...she was 19 years old. 51 00:02:41,834 --> 00:02:44,837 She had her whole lifein front of her. 52 00:02:44,881 --> 00:02:47,013 Forgive me, Ms. Waters, 53 00:02:47,057 --> 00:02:51,017 but clearly, you and your family do all right. 54 00:02:51,061 --> 00:02:53,716 How did your late daughter wind up living 55 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:56,066 in a rough neighborhood like Chinatown? 56 00:02:57,154 --> 00:03:01,463 My daughter and I were in a period of, uh, estrangement. 57 00:03:01,506 --> 00:03:04,161 She... 58 00:03:04,205 --> 00:03:07,164 she had decided to leave collegein her sophomore year, 59 00:03:07,208 --> 00:03:10,472 and I decided that was not something I could support. 60 00:03:10,515 --> 00:03:12,256 She wanted to be a painter. 61 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:14,302 She thought that college was a waste of time. 62 00:03:14,345 --> 00:03:18,001 I see.Her mind wasmade up, and... 63 00:03:18,044 --> 00:03:20,308 so was mine. 64 00:03:20,351 --> 00:03:23,659 I cut her off financially. 65 00:03:24,921 --> 00:03:27,010 I-I wasn't trying to hurt her. 66 00:03:27,053 --> 00:03:30,622 I was trying to... shock her into reconsidering. 67 00:03:30,666 --> 00:03:31,797 [scoffs softly] 68 00:03:31,841 --> 00:03:34,278 [quietly]: S-Stupid. 69 00:03:35,323 --> 00:03:37,890 And the young man who died, 70 00:03:37,934 --> 00:03:40,197 Finn Danford, was he a boyfriend? 71 00:03:40,241 --> 00:03:42,373 I suppose. 72 00:03:42,417 --> 00:03:45,681 Probably a big part of the reason she left school. 73 00:03:45,724 --> 00:03:48,161 But as I say... 74 00:03:48,205 --> 00:03:51,252 we were not speaking by that point. 75 00:03:53,210 --> 00:03:54,342 Is this it? 76 00:03:54,385 --> 00:03:56,126 DRIVER:Yes, ma'am. 77 00:03:57,606 --> 00:03:59,564 BENNY: The fire department 78 00:03:59,608 --> 00:04:01,610 gave me a key to the padlock, so... 79 00:04:01,653 --> 00:04:03,220 EVELYN: I don't see 80 00:04:03,264 --> 00:04:05,135 any padlock. 81 00:04:10,923 --> 00:04:12,273 Oh, my goodness. 82 00:04:12,316 --> 00:04:14,666 Chunk? 83 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:16,712 What are you doing here? 84 00:04:16,755 --> 00:04:18,104 I'm here with my client. 85 00:04:18,148 --> 00:04:19,976 Lily Knowles. 86 00:04:20,019 --> 00:04:22,108 Oh, my... [sighs] 87 00:04:22,152 --> 00:04:24,154 I think we may have a problem here. 88 00:04:24,197 --> 00:04:25,982 This is myclient, 89 00:04:26,025 --> 00:04:28,332 Claire Waters's mother, Evelyn Waters. 90 00:04:28,376 --> 00:04:30,465 Oh, my God, M-Mrs. Waters, I'm so sorry. I... 91 00:04:30,508 --> 00:04:32,118 No, no, no,that-that's enough. 92 00:04:32,162 --> 00:04:35,296 That's enough.Ms. Waters, I have to tell you something. 93 00:04:35,339 --> 00:04:37,950 Mr. Palmer here and I are not just friends. 94 00:04:37,994 --> 00:04:39,169 We're colleagues. 95 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:41,345 We work at the same firm. 96 00:04:41,389 --> 00:04:43,260 I don't understand. 97 00:04:43,304 --> 00:04:45,088 Neither do I.Well... 98 00:04:45,131 --> 00:04:47,090 the short version is... 99 00:04:47,133 --> 00:04:51,094 I'm afraid we might be staringat a conflict of interest. 100 00:04:51,137 --> 00:04:53,226 Who might be? 101 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:54,967 All of us. 102 00:04:55,011 --> 00:04:57,535 BENNY: In my 20-some-odd years of doing this for a living, 103 00:04:57,579 --> 00:04:59,755 I can honestly say that I have never, 104 00:04:59,798 --> 00:05:01,931 ever been as professionally embarrassed 105 00:05:01,974 --> 00:05:03,454 as I was this morning. 106 00:05:03,498 --> 00:05:06,849 I-I... I truly did not know what to say to that woman. 107 00:05:06,892 --> 00:05:08,981 Just tell her that you're sorryfor wasting her time, 108 00:05:09,025 --> 00:05:11,636 but your esteemed colleague got there first. Case closed! 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,421 Chunk! 110 00:05:13,464 --> 00:05:15,423 BENNY: All I know is, I got a call last night 111 00:05:15,466 --> 00:05:17,381 from an attorney friend of mine. 112 00:05:17,425 --> 00:05:19,470 He has a very wealthy client whose daughter died 113 00:05:19,514 --> 00:05:21,298 in a tragic accident. 114 00:05:21,342 --> 00:05:22,865 They went to the D.A.'s office 115 00:05:22,908 --> 00:05:25,084 hoping to file some criminal charges. 116 00:05:25,128 --> 00:05:28,087 The D.A. demurred,suggested they file a civil suit 117 00:05:28,131 --> 00:05:30,394 and recommended me and this firm 118 00:05:30,438 --> 00:05:32,527 as the right folks to get the job done. 119 00:05:32,570 --> 00:05:34,703 Ah. I like the sound of that. 120 00:05:34,746 --> 00:05:36,269 Mr. Palmer? 121 00:05:36,313 --> 00:05:38,620 I was just doing what you told me to do. 122 00:05:38,663 --> 00:05:40,404 And what was that? 123 00:05:40,448 --> 00:05:42,014 Remember? You said to me, 124 00:05:42,058 --> 00:05:44,495 "I'm thrilled to add you to the roster as an attorney, 125 00:05:44,539 --> 00:05:47,629 "but, uh, no one's walking in the door asking for you. 126 00:05:47,672 --> 00:05:49,021 "No one knows you exist. 127 00:05:49,065 --> 00:05:51,154 "So for the foreseeable future, 128 00:05:51,197 --> 00:05:52,416 "I'm gonna assign you some cases, 129 00:05:52,460 --> 00:05:54,505 "I'm gonna throw you some pro bono work. 130 00:05:54,549 --> 00:05:57,769 "But what you reallyshould do is get out there and hustle. 131 00:05:57,813 --> 00:05:59,423 "Anything to get in a courtroom. 132 00:05:59,467 --> 00:06:00,642 "Anything to help 133 00:06:00,685 --> 00:06:02,121 the legal community see you in action." 134 00:06:02,165 --> 00:06:03,514 And that's your hustle? 135 00:06:03,558 --> 00:06:05,603 A squatter who basically led a young couple 136 00:06:05,647 --> 00:06:08,345 to their death by allowing themto live in a building 137 00:06:08,389 --> 00:06:11,696 that the city declared wasn't fit for occupancy. 138 00:06:11,740 --> 00:06:15,004 I thought the idea was to bring in cases we can win. 139 00:06:15,047 --> 00:06:17,006 That "squatter" has a name. 140 00:06:17,049 --> 00:06:19,443 Lily Knowles... was referred to me 141 00:06:19,487 --> 00:06:21,967 by an organization called New York Artists for the Future. 142 00:06:22,011 --> 00:06:24,448 I did some work for them in the law clinic at school, 143 00:06:24,492 --> 00:06:27,059 so when the situation came up, they asked if I could help. 144 00:06:27,103 --> 00:06:28,713 A-And by the way, 145 00:06:28,757 --> 00:06:31,890 this is exactly the kind of caseyou were talking to me about. 146 00:06:31,934 --> 00:06:35,198 And I happen to think that thisis a completely winnable case. 147 00:06:35,241 --> 00:06:37,200 The girl is being set up. 148 00:06:37,243 --> 00:06:39,768 She has no legal culpability for those two deaths. 149 00:06:39,811 --> 00:06:41,683 Well, that's for the jury to decide. 150 00:06:41,726 --> 00:06:43,424 And you seem 151 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:46,775 to be forgetting: my client is the aggrieved party here. 152 00:06:46,818 --> 00:06:48,559 First of all, you don't have a client. 153 00:06:48,603 --> 00:06:50,909 Neither one of us does until this man 154 00:06:50,953 --> 00:06:52,215 says so. 155 00:06:52,258 --> 00:06:53,869 And as far as aggrieved goes, 156 00:06:53,912 --> 00:06:56,437 that woman is worth acouple hundred million dollars, 157 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,048 and she's suing a kid who doesn't have a pot to... 158 00:06:59,091 --> 00:07:01,354 Her daughter is dead! 159 00:07:02,443 --> 00:07:04,140 And since you're bringing up her money, 160 00:07:04,183 --> 00:07:06,664 this is probably as good a timeas any to remind everyone 161 00:07:06,708 --> 00:07:09,972 that she's actually prepared to pay for our services. 162 00:07:10,015 --> 00:07:13,323 Something I strongly suspect your client is not. 163 00:07:15,673 --> 00:07:18,023 The man makes a particularly cogent point. 164 00:07:18,067 --> 00:07:20,330 Look, I'm worried that if I don't defend this girl 165 00:07:20,373 --> 00:07:22,550 and get her acquitted, she's gonna be facing 166 00:07:22,593 --> 00:07:25,683 a lifetime of debt-- not to mention what happens 167 00:07:25,727 --> 00:07:28,556 if they decide to bring criminal charges. 168 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,646 Do you honestly think 169 00:07:31,689 --> 00:07:34,039 you're the only person that can possibly represent her? 170 00:07:34,083 --> 00:07:35,388 No. 171 00:07:35,432 --> 00:07:37,608 But I do believe that I can get her acquitted. 172 00:07:37,652 --> 00:07:39,784 I believe in her.And I believe 173 00:07:39,828 --> 00:07:42,570 she's being unfairly prosecuted.Come on. 174 00:07:42,613 --> 00:07:44,223 That warehouse was a death trap. 175 00:07:44,267 --> 00:07:46,487 She had no business enticing people to live there. 176 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:48,489 She was trying to foster a community of artists. 177 00:07:48,532 --> 00:07:50,186 She was trying to live 178 00:07:50,229 --> 00:07:53,363 rent-free with her friendsin a place she had no claim to! 179 00:07:53,406 --> 00:07:54,712 Man, you are so cold! 180 00:07:54,756 --> 00:07:56,235 I'm cold? You're naive! 181 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:57,628 This isn't legal aid. 182 00:07:57,672 --> 00:07:59,543 People are supposed to pay for the privilege 183 00:07:59,587 --> 00:08:01,110 of having us represent them. 184 00:08:01,153 --> 00:08:03,504 And it's actually good for business if they're innocent. 185 00:08:03,547 --> 00:08:04,592 Enough! 186 00:08:08,726 --> 00:08:11,686 I have no idea what to do here. 187 00:08:11,729 --> 00:08:14,123 Chunk, how much work have you done on this? 188 00:08:14,166 --> 00:08:15,559 We talked on the phone briefly 189 00:08:15,603 --> 00:08:17,343 a couple of times earlier this week. 190 00:08:17,387 --> 00:08:20,042 Short calls. Finally met face-to-face this morning. 191 00:08:21,696 --> 00:08:24,612 I spoke with Evelyn for the first time two hours ago. 192 00:08:24,655 --> 00:08:27,571 Well, then I have no choice-- we have to go with Chunk, 193 00:08:27,615 --> 00:08:29,355 otherwise we're conflicted out. 194 00:08:29,399 --> 00:08:31,619 Here's a crazy idea. I mean, what if... 195 00:08:31,662 --> 00:08:34,273 TAC did represent both clients? 196 00:08:34,317 --> 00:08:36,667 Benny, you know as well as I dothe likelihood of the court 197 00:08:36,711 --> 00:08:38,582 going along with something like that is one in a million. 198 00:08:38,626 --> 00:08:40,149 You don't know until you ask. 199 00:08:40,192 --> 00:08:41,890 More importantly, your client is never gonna go for it. 200 00:08:41,933 --> 00:08:45,589 Why should she pay you, knowing weare representing 201 00:08:45,633 --> 00:08:47,286 her opponent and doing it for free? 202 00:08:47,330 --> 00:08:48,592 All excellent arguments. 203 00:08:48,636 --> 00:08:51,334 I'm just asking for permission to try. 204 00:08:55,338 --> 00:09:00,082 Fine. If you can get the courtsand all the principals to agree, 205 00:09:00,125 --> 00:09:02,345 then TAC will be happy 206 00:09:02,388 --> 00:09:04,652 to represent both sides.Could happen. 207 00:09:04,695 --> 00:09:06,523 Right after that blizzard in hell. 208 00:09:06,567 --> 00:09:09,482 Hey, did you see that pig just fly by? 209 00:09:13,574 --> 00:09:15,576 ♪ 210 00:09:22,234 --> 00:09:24,149 I would feel like a fool going into court 211 00:09:24,193 --> 00:09:25,716 under these circumstances. 212 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,589 I know how it sounds. 213 00:09:28,632 --> 00:09:30,025 I know how it feels. 214 00:09:30,068 --> 00:09:33,071 But... I would be remiss if I didn't point out to you 215 00:09:33,115 --> 00:09:35,857 that there are certain... benefits going to court 216 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:38,294 with someone who knows the other side so well, 217 00:09:38,337 --> 00:09:41,906 someone who can predict theirevery move before they make it. 218 00:09:41,950 --> 00:09:43,168 Be that as it may... 219 00:09:43,212 --> 00:09:44,996 See, the first thing that will happen is, 220 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,085 the defense will file a motion to sever. 221 00:09:47,129 --> 00:09:49,305 That means they'll try and force you to have 222 00:09:49,348 --> 00:09:52,874 three separate trials-- one against the city, 223 00:09:52,917 --> 00:09:54,136 one against the property owner, 224 00:09:54,179 --> 00:09:55,267 and one against Lily. 225 00:09:55,311 --> 00:09:57,966 And then there's the Friday trick. 226 00:09:58,009 --> 00:09:59,663 What's the Friday trick? 227 00:09:59,707 --> 00:10:02,884 Chester Palmer-- he'sthe attorney representing Lily-- 228 00:10:02,927 --> 00:10:04,799 will say he has a scheduling conflict. 229 00:10:04,842 --> 00:10:08,019 He'll ask for the trial to commence on a Friday. 230 00:10:08,063 --> 00:10:09,847 So?Worst day 231 00:10:09,891 --> 00:10:12,284 for a plaintiff, for you to start. 232 00:10:12,328 --> 00:10:14,417 You'd much rather start on a Monday. 233 00:10:14,460 --> 00:10:16,941 That way, you have five days to build momentum. 234 00:10:16,985 --> 00:10:18,943 You want to rest your case on a Friday, 235 00:10:18,987 --> 00:10:20,336 so the jury has 236 00:10:20,379 --> 00:10:21,946 all weekend to think about it. 237 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:24,775 Then they'll be more likely to form an opinion 238 00:10:24,819 --> 00:10:26,908 that's favorable to your side. 239 00:10:26,951 --> 00:10:30,781 Chester Palmer sounds like a very smart man. 240 00:10:30,825 --> 00:10:33,828 Well, he learned from the best. 241 00:10:33,871 --> 00:10:35,960 Oh. One more thing. 242 00:10:36,004 --> 00:10:38,963 The other side will try to maneuver so that the case 243 00:10:39,007 --> 00:10:41,705 appears in front of a defense-friendly judge, 244 00:10:41,749 --> 00:10:44,099 someone more inclined to rule in their favor, 245 00:10:44,142 --> 00:10:45,535 give them the benefit of a doubt. 246 00:10:45,578 --> 00:10:48,016 Now, I'm thinking Judge Tessa Hudson. 247 00:10:48,059 --> 00:10:51,715 We've stood before her many times, and... 248 00:10:51,759 --> 00:10:54,283 I happen to know she's up in the rotation. 249 00:10:54,326 --> 00:10:57,286 Judge Tessa Hudson. 250 00:10:57,329 --> 00:10:58,766 [gavel banging]Good morning. 251 00:10:58,809 --> 00:11:02,073 Just so everybody understands how the COVID of it all 252 00:11:02,117 --> 00:11:03,640 works in my courtroom, 253 00:11:03,684 --> 00:11:07,557 I am behind plexiglass and I am socially distanced 254 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,690 from everyone, so please don't let the fact that I am 255 00:11:09,733 --> 00:11:12,997 not wearing a mask cause you any concern. 256 00:11:13,041 --> 00:11:15,870 Witnesses are also seated behind plexiglass 257 00:11:15,913 --> 00:11:17,785 and are socially distanced. 258 00:11:17,828 --> 00:11:19,830 We feel it's important for the jurors 259 00:11:19,874 --> 00:11:22,615 to see their entire faces. 260 00:11:22,659 --> 00:11:25,444 Jurors are behind plexiglass and are required 261 00:11:25,488 --> 00:11:27,011 to wear masks because even though 262 00:11:27,055 --> 00:11:29,100 they are socially distanced, 263 00:11:29,144 --> 00:11:31,233 they are in a congregant group. 264 00:11:31,276 --> 00:11:33,539 And we are determined to keep them as safe 265 00:11:33,583 --> 00:11:35,411 as is humanly possible. 266 00:11:35,454 --> 00:11:38,109 As for the defense and plaintiff tables, 267 00:11:38,153 --> 00:11:39,763 whether or not you wear a mask is 268 00:11:39,807 --> 00:11:41,809 totally up to you and your clients. 269 00:11:41,852 --> 00:11:44,507 You are far enough away that proximity should 270 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:46,030 not pose an issue. 271 00:11:46,074 --> 00:11:48,163 The only other rule for you is 272 00:11:48,206 --> 00:11:50,208 no more than two people at the table-- 273 00:11:50,252 --> 00:11:53,124 presumably the principal attorney and the client. 274 00:11:53,168 --> 00:11:56,649 All right, let's see if we can come to some kind 275 00:11:56,693 --> 00:11:59,478 of consensus on a trial date. 276 00:11:59,522 --> 00:12:01,698 If it pleases the court, 277 00:12:01,742 --> 00:12:03,004 Your Honor, my schedule is 278 00:12:03,047 --> 00:12:04,570 pretty tight this week. 279 00:12:04,614 --> 00:12:06,659 I'd ask the court's indulgencethat I be able to impanel 280 00:12:06,703 --> 00:12:08,661 on Thursday and beginthe trial on Friday. 281 00:12:08,705 --> 00:12:10,881 HUDSON: All right. 282 00:12:10,925 --> 00:12:13,057 There's no objection from the plaintiff, I assume? 283 00:12:14,885 --> 00:12:19,455 Well, actually, we'd prefer to start earlier in the week. 284 00:12:19,498 --> 00:12:21,762 Speak plainly, Counsel.Are you not available on Friday? 285 00:12:22,893 --> 00:12:25,591 I am, but...Okay, Friday it is. 286 00:12:25,635 --> 00:12:28,856 Splendid. Now, does the defense wish to be heard 287 00:12:28,899 --> 00:12:30,509 on the motion to sever? 288 00:12:30,553 --> 00:12:32,076 Your Honor... 289 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,731 obviously my client's defenseis in direct conflict 290 00:12:34,775 --> 00:12:36,167 with the othertwo defendants-- 291 00:12:36,211 --> 00:12:38,517 the building owner and the city. 292 00:12:38,561 --> 00:12:40,824 One is basicallyan impoverished individual with 293 00:12:40,868 --> 00:12:44,262 no direct responsibility forthe condition of the building, 294 00:12:44,306 --> 00:12:46,612 whereas the other two are substantial entities 295 00:12:46,656 --> 00:12:49,615 with access to abundant resources. 296 00:12:49,659 --> 00:12:50,965 Holding all three trialstogether 297 00:12:51,008 --> 00:12:52,880 would absolutely pose 298 00:12:52,923 --> 00:12:53,968 undue prejudice. 299 00:12:54,011 --> 00:12:55,752 I would agree with you, Mr. Palmer. 300 00:12:55,796 --> 00:12:57,928 The motion to sever is allowed. 301 00:12:57,972 --> 00:13:00,365 Very well then. 302 00:13:00,409 --> 00:13:02,106 Our next order of business... 303 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:04,152 Uh... excuse me? 304 00:13:04,195 --> 00:13:06,894 Ms. Waters, where are you going? 305 00:13:06,937 --> 00:13:08,809 This is your trial. 306 00:13:08,852 --> 00:13:10,898 We're all here because of you. 307 00:13:10,941 --> 00:13:12,508 I'm sorry, Judge Hudson. 308 00:13:12,551 --> 00:13:14,162 Uh, please feel free to continue. 309 00:13:14,205 --> 00:13:16,817 I have to make a phone call. 310 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:18,819 HUDSON: Okay... 311 00:13:18,862 --> 00:13:20,255 run this by me again. 312 00:13:20,298 --> 00:13:22,213 You want to change counsel 313 00:13:22,257 --> 00:13:24,259 one day in?I do. 314 00:13:24,302 --> 00:13:25,956 And you want?BENNY:I am seeking 315 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,741 the court's permissionto file an appearance. 316 00:13:28,785 --> 00:13:30,178 Uh-huh.As you well know, 317 00:13:30,221 --> 00:13:32,484 I'm employedby Dr. Jason Bull 318 00:13:32,528 --> 00:13:34,182 of the Trial Analysis Corporation, 319 00:13:34,225 --> 00:13:35,531 and so is Mr. Palmer, 320 00:13:35,574 --> 00:13:36,924 who is representing 321 00:13:36,967 --> 00:13:38,099 the defendant.Ah. 322 00:13:38,142 --> 00:13:39,840 Isn't this cozy? 323 00:13:39,883 --> 00:13:41,537 A little, perhaps, yes, 324 00:13:41,580 --> 00:13:43,887 but I just wantto state for the record 325 00:13:43,931 --> 00:13:46,150 that I've had no contactwith Mr. Palmer's client. 326 00:13:46,194 --> 00:13:48,283 I've not done any workon her case. 327 00:13:48,326 --> 00:13:49,980 In fact, I didn't even know 328 00:13:50,024 --> 00:13:52,548 that anyone from my firmhad ever even spoken 329 00:13:52,591 --> 00:13:55,159 to the defendant until after Iagreed to represent Ms. Waters. 330 00:13:55,203 --> 00:13:56,465 BULL:Your Honor, 331 00:13:56,508 --> 00:13:58,249 our firm is prepared to avoid any 332 00:13:58,293 --> 00:14:00,208 and all conflicts of interest. 333 00:14:00,251 --> 00:14:03,776 We will happily divide up our resources and our staff, 334 00:14:03,820 --> 00:14:07,955 and if necessary, even the office space itself. 335 00:14:07,998 --> 00:14:09,260 In addition, pursuant 336 00:14:09,304 --> 00:14:10,827 to the New York Rulesof Professional Conduct, 337 00:14:10,871 --> 00:14:13,786 Section 1.7, I have informedmy client of her rights, 338 00:14:13,830 --> 00:14:16,311 and she has signed a noticeof informed consent. 339 00:14:16,354 --> 00:14:18,574 And my client has signed a similar document. 340 00:14:19,618 --> 00:14:21,142 Miss Knowles, 341 00:14:21,185 --> 00:14:23,448 while you cannot select 342 00:14:23,492 --> 00:14:25,929 who represents Ms. Waters, 343 00:14:25,973 --> 00:14:30,978 you are entitled to a lawyerfree of any potential conflict. 344 00:14:31,021 --> 00:14:35,112 Your Honor, I-I want Mr. Palmer to be my attorney. 345 00:14:35,156 --> 00:14:36,809 I trust him. 346 00:14:36,853 --> 00:14:38,463 He gets me. 347 00:14:38,507 --> 00:14:41,553 And plus, he's working for free. 348 00:14:41,597 --> 00:14:43,686 Oh. 349 00:14:43,729 --> 00:14:45,122 Ms. Waters, 350 00:14:45,166 --> 00:14:46,950 what was wrong with the lawyer 351 00:14:46,994 --> 00:14:48,865 who accompanied you in court yesterday 352 00:14:48,909 --> 00:14:49,866 at the motions hearing? 353 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:52,260 Nothing. He's just not the best, 354 00:14:52,303 --> 00:14:54,958 and Mr. Colón, in my opinion, is. 355 00:14:55,002 --> 00:14:56,264 Uh-huh. 356 00:14:56,307 --> 00:14:58,309 That was subtle. 357 00:14:58,353 --> 00:15:01,878 Well, if, uh, everybody's in agreement, 358 00:15:01,922 --> 00:15:03,445 I'm not gonna stand in your way. 359 00:15:03,488 --> 00:15:05,229 The motion is allowed. 360 00:15:09,103 --> 00:15:10,887 BULL: In order for this to work, 361 00:15:10,931 --> 00:15:12,193 it's absolutely crucial 362 00:15:12,236 --> 00:15:15,065 that there be no sharingof information. Marissa, 363 00:15:15,109 --> 00:15:17,502 I need you to figure out a way to firewall the console 364 00:15:17,546 --> 00:15:19,069 so each team will only have access to their data. 365 00:15:19,113 --> 00:15:20,505 I can do that. 366 00:15:20,549 --> 00:15:21,985 Each side'll have their own password, 367 00:15:22,029 --> 00:15:23,334 and I'll make it so everyone 368 00:15:23,378 --> 00:15:25,684 can log in remotelyfrom their laptops and tablets 369 00:15:25,728 --> 00:15:27,686 so no one's huddled around the monitors in the war room. 370 00:15:27,730 --> 00:15:29,862 Great. Benny,since you are the... 371 00:15:29,906 --> 00:15:31,516 more experienced attorney, 372 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,127 I'm assigning myself to Chunk's team. 373 00:15:33,170 --> 00:15:35,912 Fine. I'll take Marissaand Danny then. 374 00:15:35,956 --> 00:15:37,131 Sorry, Taylor. 375 00:15:37,174 --> 00:15:39,220 It's fine. I like hanging with the boys. 376 00:15:39,263 --> 00:15:41,048 BULL: And, Chunk,if you're good with it, 377 00:15:41,091 --> 00:15:42,788 we'll make my office our workspace? 378 00:15:42,832 --> 00:15:44,921 Room with a view? Solid. 379 00:15:44,965 --> 00:15:47,184 Benny, if you don't mind working down here? 380 00:15:47,228 --> 00:15:48,925 Works for me. 381 00:15:48,969 --> 00:15:50,579 All right. 382 00:16:03,331 --> 00:16:05,333 ♪ 383 00:16:14,081 --> 00:16:17,084 All right, Chunk, it's yourparty. How do you want to start? 384 00:16:17,127 --> 00:16:19,042 Well, obviously, voir dire is the first 385 00:16:19,086 --> 00:16:20,913 order of business. 386 00:16:20,957 --> 00:16:22,828 Since you've done that athousand more times than I have, 387 00:16:22,872 --> 00:16:24,265 what do you think the play is? 388 00:16:24,308 --> 00:16:26,049 We need to find jurors who are open to the idea 389 00:16:26,093 --> 00:16:30,271 that what happened was simply beyond Lily's control. 390 00:16:30,314 --> 00:16:31,620 Which it was. 391 00:16:31,663 --> 00:16:33,274 That's right. In a perfect world, 392 00:16:33,317 --> 00:16:36,929 I'd want to seat intentionalistsand deselect consequentialists. 393 00:16:36,973 --> 00:16:39,410 One more time, for those of us who don't speak PhD? 394 00:16:39,454 --> 00:16:42,326 We want people who will focus not on what happened, 395 00:16:42,370 --> 00:16:44,285 but Lily's intent. 396 00:16:44,328 --> 00:16:46,461 Which was to create housing for her fellow artists 397 00:16:46,504 --> 00:16:48,419 and build a sense of community. 398 00:16:48,463 --> 00:16:50,117 So I have a question. 399 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,249 Claire's boyfriend died in the accident, too. 400 00:16:52,293 --> 00:16:54,077 Why aren't his parents part of this lawsuit? 401 00:16:54,121 --> 00:16:57,080 That is an excellent question. 402 00:16:58,342 --> 00:17:00,649 On it. [clears throat] 403 00:17:00,692 --> 00:17:02,651 BENNY: We... 404 00:17:02,694 --> 00:17:04,348 are suing for wrongful death, 405 00:17:04,392 --> 00:17:06,872 which means we have to prove 406 00:17:06,916 --> 00:17:10,093 Lily knowingly brought Claire into a dangerous situation. 407 00:17:10,137 --> 00:17:12,574 If I know Bull, he is gonna convince Chunk to argue 408 00:17:12,617 --> 00:17:15,011 that Lily was no differentthan any of the other squatters, 409 00:17:15,055 --> 00:17:17,405 that she's no more culpable than the rest of them, 410 00:17:17,448 --> 00:17:19,059 that in fact, she could have just as easily 411 00:17:19,102 --> 00:17:21,626 been underneath that beam as Evelyn's daughter. 412 00:17:21,670 --> 00:17:23,063 Of course that's what he's gonna do. 413 00:17:23,106 --> 00:17:24,368 You knowwhat my grandmother used to say? 414 00:17:24,412 --> 00:17:26,457 "Be careful when you point a finger at someone. 415 00:17:26,501 --> 00:17:30,026 You'll discover there's three fingers pointing back at you." 416 00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:32,681 Come to think of it, we need jurors like your grandmother. 417 00:17:33,856 --> 00:17:37,033 People who think this Lily girlset everything into motion 418 00:17:37,077 --> 00:17:41,820 by breaking into that buildingand inviting others to join her. 419 00:17:41,864 --> 00:17:44,258 Breaking the lawand inviting others to join her. 420 00:17:44,301 --> 00:17:46,651 People who take responsibility for their own actions 421 00:17:46,695 --> 00:17:49,132 and expect others to do the same.Yup. 422 00:17:49,176 --> 00:17:52,701 We need to get rid of anyone who plays the blame game. 423 00:17:52,744 --> 00:17:54,137 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 424 00:17:54,181 --> 00:17:57,009 Okay. Let me ask you a question. 425 00:17:57,053 --> 00:17:59,229 Anybody here unhappy at work? 426 00:17:59,273 --> 00:18:01,884 All right.Juror number three, 427 00:18:01,927 --> 00:18:03,146 let's start with you. 428 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:05,670 So, you are unhappy at your job? 429 00:18:05,714 --> 00:18:10,153 Well, let's just say I made somebad choices when I was younger. 430 00:18:10,197 --> 00:18:14,070 I was too interested in partying, having fun. 431 00:18:14,114 --> 00:18:16,159 I should have focused more on school. 432 00:18:16,203 --> 00:18:19,771 She's self-aware, takes responsibility for her flaws. 433 00:18:19,815 --> 00:18:21,164 I like her. 434 00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:23,340 Not blaming anyone else 435 00:18:23,384 --> 00:18:24,820 for where she is in life. 436 00:18:24,863 --> 00:18:27,170 Sounds like just the person we are looking for. 437 00:18:27,214 --> 00:18:30,478 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 438 00:18:30,521 --> 00:18:32,132 She's exactly who they're looking for. 439 00:18:32,175 --> 00:18:34,090 Your Honor,with your permission, 440 00:18:34,134 --> 00:18:36,788 we would like to thankand excuse juror number three. 441 00:18:36,832 --> 00:18:40,314 ♪ 442 00:18:40,357 --> 00:18:43,926 Who here has ever offered to water your neighbor's plants, 443 00:18:43,969 --> 00:18:46,798 maybe take in their mail while they're on vacation? 444 00:18:46,842 --> 00:18:48,235 Juror number 17. 445 00:18:48,278 --> 00:18:51,107 Neighbor of the year.Tell us your story. 446 00:18:51,151 --> 00:18:54,154 No story. I just agreed to feed my neighbor's cat 447 00:18:54,197 --> 00:18:56,068 when he went to the Jersey Shorea few weeks ago. 448 00:18:56,112 --> 00:18:57,809 That was awfully nice of you. 449 00:18:57,853 --> 00:19:00,160 So let me, uh, ask you this hypothetical. 450 00:19:00,203 --> 00:19:02,988 You're-you're in the apartment,you're feeding the cat. 451 00:19:03,032 --> 00:19:04,990 You accidentally break a vase. 452 00:19:05,034 --> 00:19:06,209 What would you do? 453 00:19:06,253 --> 00:19:07,645 Well, I don't know. 454 00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:10,213 I mean... does he knowI did it? 455 00:19:11,649 --> 00:19:13,956 Maybe the cat knocked it over. 456 00:19:13,999 --> 00:19:16,219 Great. We got a comedian. Taylor, 457 00:19:16,263 --> 00:19:17,264 talk to me. 458 00:19:17,307 --> 00:19:19,353 He's a dentist, sole practitioner. 459 00:19:19,396 --> 00:19:21,833 And an avid mountain climber. 460 00:19:21,877 --> 00:19:23,748 Okay. That helps clarify things. 461 00:19:23,792 --> 00:19:25,576 He's an individualist, which means 462 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:27,099 he'll be more likely to buy Benny's theory 463 00:19:27,143 --> 00:19:29,145 of personal responsibility. 464 00:19:29,189 --> 00:19:32,888 We'd like to thank and excuse this juror. 465 00:19:32,931 --> 00:19:35,064 And what about you? 466 00:19:35,107 --> 00:19:36,805 Let's say you broke the vase. 467 00:19:36,848 --> 00:19:39,634 Well, then, I'd certainly offerto pay for it. 468 00:19:39,677 --> 00:19:43,246 Now, would it make mea bad person if I secretly hope 469 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:45,205 my neighbor says, "Don't worry about it"? 470 00:19:45,248 --> 00:19:48,295 No. As long as you're willing to step up. 471 00:19:49,818 --> 00:19:51,776 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 472 00:19:53,169 --> 00:19:54,692 I'll kick her. 473 00:19:54,736 --> 00:19:56,694 Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. 474 00:19:56,738 --> 00:19:58,174 I liked her answer. 475 00:19:58,218 --> 00:20:00,872 She was being honest almost to a fault. 476 00:20:00,916 --> 00:20:02,222 Taylor, 477 00:20:02,265 --> 00:20:04,180 tell me something I don't know about this lady. 478 00:20:04,224 --> 00:20:07,183 Well, her Insta's filledwith pictures of gifts she sends 479 00:20:07,227 --> 00:20:09,229 to her kids and grandkids for their birthdays. 480 00:20:09,272 --> 00:20:10,404 Everything's homemade, 481 00:20:10,447 --> 00:20:13,537 everything individual and personalized. 482 00:20:13,581 --> 00:20:15,147 I knew it. 483 00:20:15,191 --> 00:20:17,237 Sounds like she's an intentionalist. 484 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,934 What is that again? 485 00:20:18,977 --> 00:20:22,024 Someone for whom the intention of the deed is more important 486 00:20:22,067 --> 00:20:23,286 than the outcome. 487 00:20:23,330 --> 00:20:24,287 It could also mean she's a cheapskate. 488 00:20:24,331 --> 00:20:25,897 CHUNK:Your Honor, 489 00:20:25,941 --> 00:20:29,336 this juror is also acceptableto the defense. 490 00:20:30,424 --> 00:20:33,296 She is? 491 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:35,298 What's he know that we don't know? 492 00:20:35,342 --> 00:20:37,300 I don't know.He's Bull. 493 00:20:37,344 --> 00:20:39,781 HUDSON:Ladies and gentlemen,we have our panel. 494 00:20:39,824 --> 00:20:41,391 Juror number 30, 495 00:20:41,435 --> 00:20:44,394 I am appointing you foreperson. 496 00:20:44,438 --> 00:20:47,354 Testimony begins first thing in the morning. 497 00:20:51,401 --> 00:20:53,577 She asleep? 498 00:20:53,621 --> 00:20:55,231 Do you hear her crying? 499 00:20:55,275 --> 00:20:56,188 No. 500 00:20:56,232 --> 00:20:57,799 Well, that's usually 501 00:20:57,842 --> 00:20:59,888 the giveaway. 502 00:21:03,239 --> 00:21:05,241 Do you have any idea why I haven't heard 503 00:21:05,285 --> 00:21:06,808 from my brother all night? 504 00:21:06,851 --> 00:21:09,289 I mean, I've texted and I've called. 505 00:21:09,332 --> 00:21:10,899 It's as if he's off the grid. 506 00:21:10,942 --> 00:21:13,641 He's up first tomorrow. 507 00:21:13,684 --> 00:21:16,948 He's probably at the office putting together his case. 508 00:21:16,992 --> 00:21:20,343 Really? It's after 11:00. 509 00:21:20,387 --> 00:21:24,347 The law is a cruel mistress. 510 00:21:24,391 --> 00:21:26,480 If he's at the office, then why aren't you? 511 00:21:26,523 --> 00:21:29,091 Because I'm here with you.[laughs softly] 512 00:21:29,134 --> 00:21:30,222 HUDSON: Mr. Colón, 513 00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:32,355 you may call your first witness. 514 00:21:32,399 --> 00:21:33,356 Yes, Your Honor. 515 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,966 With the court's permission, 516 00:21:35,010 --> 00:21:38,143 the plaintiff would like to callReggie Craven to the stand. 517 00:21:38,187 --> 00:21:40,320 [door opens] 518 00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:44,759 [quietly]:Who is this? 519 00:21:44,802 --> 00:21:46,369 Remember what I said. 520 00:21:46,413 --> 00:21:48,502 We have to prove that Lily knowingly brought Claire 521 00:21:48,545 --> 00:21:50,504 into a dangerous situation. 522 00:21:50,547 --> 00:21:52,593 Objection. 523 00:21:52,636 --> 00:21:53,942 This is the first 524 00:21:53,985 --> 00:21:55,813 that the defense is hearing about this witness. 525 00:21:55,857 --> 00:21:58,381 His name does not appear on any witness list. 526 00:21:58,425 --> 00:22:00,905 And, frankly, I've never even heard of him. 527 00:22:00,949 --> 00:22:04,126 This is a clear violation of the rules of discovery. 528 00:22:04,169 --> 00:22:07,129 Is this true,Mr. Colón? 529 00:22:07,172 --> 00:22:09,349 Did you fail to provide defense counsel 530 00:22:09,392 --> 00:22:10,698 with a complete witness list 531 00:22:10,741 --> 00:22:13,788 prior to the start of proceedings this morning? 532 00:22:13,831 --> 00:22:17,182 Your Honor, Mr. Craven has beenextremely difficult to locate. 533 00:22:17,226 --> 00:22:19,533 He doesn't havea permanent address, 534 00:22:19,576 --> 00:22:21,404 and we weren't able to make contact with him 535 00:22:21,448 --> 00:22:22,971 until about two hours ago. 536 00:22:23,014 --> 00:22:24,407 [quietly]:What a complete load of... 537 00:22:24,451 --> 00:22:25,974 That's my name. Don't wear it out. 538 00:22:26,017 --> 00:22:27,584 Shh.I'm going to take you at your word 539 00:22:27,628 --> 00:22:29,760 this time, Mr. Colón. 540 00:22:29,804 --> 00:22:31,371 But let's not make 541 00:22:31,414 --> 00:22:32,589 a habit of this. 542 00:22:32,633 --> 00:22:33,851 Mr. Palmer, 543 00:22:33,895 --> 00:22:35,070 let's swear the witness in, 544 00:22:35,113 --> 00:22:36,419 see what he has to say. 545 00:22:36,463 --> 00:22:39,422 Then, if you feel you need extra time 546 00:22:39,466 --> 00:22:41,468 to prepare after direct examination, 547 00:22:41,511 --> 00:22:42,730 I promise, 548 00:22:42,773 --> 00:22:44,819 I will make an accommodation for that. 549 00:22:44,862 --> 00:22:47,430 Thank you, Your Honor. 550 00:22:47,474 --> 00:22:48,779 BENNY: Now, Mr. Craven, 551 00:22:48,823 --> 00:22:50,912 you were one of the squatters at the warehouse 552 00:22:50,955 --> 00:22:54,437 where Claire Waters and Finn Danford lost their lives? 553 00:22:54,481 --> 00:22:56,091 Yes, sir. 554 00:22:56,134 --> 00:22:57,745 I lived there for about three weeks. 555 00:22:57,788 --> 00:22:59,703 Uh, but just so everybody's straight, 556 00:22:59,747 --> 00:23:02,097 I was there before the folks that died. 557 00:23:02,140 --> 00:23:04,055 So I never metClaire or Finn.Okay. 558 00:23:04,099 --> 00:23:07,145 Duly noted. But you livedthere nonetheless. 559 00:23:07,189 --> 00:23:08,886 Now, how did you hearabout the place? 560 00:23:08,930 --> 00:23:10,497 Uh, Lily. 561 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:11,498 She told me about it. 562 00:23:11,541 --> 00:23:12,455 BENNY:And how did you know Lily? 563 00:23:12,499 --> 00:23:13,456 Gallery shows. 564 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:15,327 Openings. 565 00:23:15,371 --> 00:23:16,894 I'd bump into her all the time. 566 00:23:16,938 --> 00:23:19,636 Turns out we both liked events that featured art, 567 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,508 free wine and things you could eat. 568 00:23:21,551 --> 00:23:23,379 BENNY:Now, after you moved in,did you... 569 00:23:23,423 --> 00:23:26,208 see anythingthat gave you cause for concern? 570 00:23:26,251 --> 00:23:28,471 A lot, actually. 571 00:23:28,515 --> 00:23:30,604 I mean, there were extension cords 572 00:23:30,647 --> 00:23:32,083 running between buildings, 573 00:23:32,127 --> 00:23:34,085 hanging out in the weather. 574 00:23:34,129 --> 00:23:36,000 There was a rodent problem. 575 00:23:36,044 --> 00:23:38,394 No bathroom, per se. 576 00:23:38,438 --> 00:23:40,570 It was pretty rugged.Anything else? 577 00:23:40,614 --> 00:23:43,181 Well, I mean, you couldn't missthe water stains on the ceiling. 578 00:23:43,225 --> 00:23:46,750 Uh, there was actually a spacewhere the ceiling was, 579 00:23:46,794 --> 00:23:47,751 uh, bowing. 580 00:23:47,795 --> 00:23:49,361 Like-like, dripping down. 581 00:23:49,405 --> 00:23:51,407 And, uh, it looked like water or something else 582 00:23:51,451 --> 00:23:53,278 had been collecting there for a long time. 583 00:23:53,322 --> 00:23:55,803 And did you...share your concerns with anyone? 584 00:23:55,846 --> 00:23:58,066 I-I told Lily. 585 00:23:58,109 --> 00:23:59,720 Well, her bedwas right underneath 586 00:23:59,763 --> 00:24:01,417 where the bulge wasthe biggest. 587 00:24:01,461 --> 00:24:03,375 So I just... didn't think it was safe. 588 00:24:03,419 --> 00:24:04,376 Or smart. 589 00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:05,421 So let me get this straight. 590 00:24:05,465 --> 00:24:07,423 You told the defendant 591 00:24:07,467 --> 00:24:09,425 you thought the ceiling might be a hazard? 592 00:24:09,469 --> 00:24:10,818 I did. 593 00:24:10,861 --> 00:24:12,820 [quietly]: No wonder they hid this guy from us. 594 00:24:12,863 --> 00:24:14,865 BENNY:And what didthe defendant do about it? 595 00:24:14,909 --> 00:24:17,433 Nothing, as far as I could tell. 596 00:24:17,477 --> 00:24:19,000 Uh, that's why,when I got enough money 597 00:24:19,043 --> 00:24:20,567 to get out of there,I-I did. 598 00:24:20,610 --> 00:24:22,264 Thank you, Mr. Craven. 599 00:24:22,307 --> 00:24:24,092 No further questions, Your Honor. 600 00:24:24,135 --> 00:24:25,267 LILY: I don't know 601 00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:26,964 what he expected me to do. 602 00:24:27,008 --> 00:24:28,444 I didn't own the place. 603 00:24:28,488 --> 00:24:30,011 I didn't have any money. 604 00:24:30,054 --> 00:24:32,448 And, besides, for all I knew, 605 00:24:32,492 --> 00:24:34,537 it could have been like that for a hundred years. 606 00:24:34,581 --> 00:24:35,625 Mr. Palmer? 607 00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:37,714 Are you prepared to cross-examine? 608 00:24:37,758 --> 00:24:39,716 [quietly]:Should we ask for more time? 609 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,239 No. 610 00:24:41,283 --> 00:24:43,241 Just ask him if he warned anyone else. 611 00:24:43,285 --> 00:24:45,243 Be sure to use the word "warned." 612 00:24:45,287 --> 00:24:48,638 Let's paint him with the same brush he's using on Lily. 613 00:24:51,511 --> 00:24:52,860 CHUNK: Mr. Craven, 614 00:24:52,903 --> 00:24:55,515 you said that you saw-- wh-what did you call it?-- 615 00:24:55,558 --> 00:24:57,560 the-the bowing in the ceiling 616 00:24:57,604 --> 00:24:59,214 and you warned 617 00:24:59,257 --> 00:25:00,215 Ms. Knowles. 618 00:25:00,258 --> 00:25:01,564 Yeah. That's correct. 619 00:25:01,608 --> 00:25:04,436 Who else did you warn about it? 620 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,221 Excuse me? 621 00:25:06,264 --> 00:25:07,570 Who else did you warn 622 00:25:07,614 --> 00:25:09,529 about your concerns regarding the ceiling? 623 00:25:10,791 --> 00:25:12,619 No one? 624 00:25:13,707 --> 00:25:16,579 I need you to speak your answerfor the record, sir. 625 00:25:16,623 --> 00:25:18,799 No. I just told Lily. 626 00:25:18,842 --> 00:25:20,061 I figuredthat would be enough. 627 00:25:20,104 --> 00:25:23,151 And why would you think that? 628 00:25:23,194 --> 00:25:25,240 If you thoughtthere was imminent danger there, 629 00:25:25,283 --> 00:25:27,634 why wouldn't you warn everyone you could? 630 00:25:28,678 --> 00:25:30,462 Your other roommates.Give them 631 00:25:30,506 --> 00:25:32,203 the same opportunity you took 632 00:25:32,247 --> 00:25:33,509 to get out of there and find another place 633 00:25:33,553 --> 00:25:34,510 to live. 634 00:25:34,554 --> 00:25:35,119 I don't know. I... 635 00:25:35,163 --> 00:25:36,556 I told Lily. 636 00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:38,166 I-I mean,she was in charge. 637 00:25:38,209 --> 00:25:39,820 CHUNK:Was she? 638 00:25:39,863 --> 00:25:42,474 I thought this was supposed to be an artists' cooperative, 639 00:25:42,518 --> 00:25:44,520 a egalitarian commune, 640 00:25:44,564 --> 00:25:46,827 where everyone was all in it together. 641 00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:48,045 Nice. 642 00:25:48,089 --> 00:25:49,394 Now quit while you're ahead. 643 00:25:49,438 --> 00:25:51,048 Objection. Your Honor, 644 00:25:51,092 --> 00:25:53,485 maybe I missed it, but was therea question in there somewhere? 645 00:25:53,529 --> 00:25:55,662 Ask a question, Mr. Palmer. 646 00:25:55,705 --> 00:25:56,837 Tell her you have no more questions, 647 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,055 thank the witness and sit down. 648 00:25:58,099 --> 00:25:59,230 Absolutely, Your Honor. 649 00:25:59,274 --> 00:26:01,276 The truth is, 650 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,931 you thought that there was a problem with the roof, 651 00:26:03,974 --> 00:26:05,236 but you didn't do anything else 652 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,803 about it, did you? 653 00:26:06,847 --> 00:26:07,891 Well... 654 00:26:07,935 --> 00:26:09,719 Except leave. Seems to me 655 00:26:09,763 --> 00:26:11,373 you're at leastas culpable 656 00:26:11,416 --> 00:26:13,549 as my client. Maybe even more so. 657 00:26:13,593 --> 00:26:15,856 Objection! Your Honor! 658 00:26:15,899 --> 00:26:18,119 No foundation. Badgering. 659 00:26:18,162 --> 00:26:21,122 Again, I have to ask this question for the second time, 660 00:26:21,165 --> 00:26:23,167 what is the question?! 661 00:26:23,211 --> 00:26:24,908 Counsel is testifying! 662 00:26:24,952 --> 00:26:26,518 Sustained.All sustained. 663 00:26:26,562 --> 00:26:27,737 Mr. Palmer, 664 00:26:27,781 --> 00:26:30,174 I will ask you one more time. 665 00:26:30,218 --> 00:26:33,221 Stop making speeches, start asking questions. 666 00:26:33,264 --> 00:26:37,529 Or I will dismiss the witness and hold you in contempt. 667 00:26:37,573 --> 00:26:40,532 I do apologize, Your Honor. 668 00:26:40,576 --> 00:26:44,145 As it happens, I have no furtherquestions for this witness. 669 00:26:44,188 --> 00:26:45,146 [exhales] 670 00:26:45,189 --> 00:26:47,627 Let's take a 15-minute break. 671 00:26:48,715 --> 00:26:49,933 I don't believe for a second 672 00:26:49,977 --> 00:26:52,414 that he found that witness this morning. 673 00:26:52,457 --> 00:26:54,285 Can you prove it? 674 00:26:55,373 --> 00:26:57,245 Then it doesn't matter. 675 00:26:57,288 --> 00:26:58,507 Didn't anyone tell you? 676 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:02,119 The law isa contact sport, too. 677 00:27:02,163 --> 00:27:04,774 You got tackled.He took you down. 678 00:27:04,818 --> 00:27:06,297 Now get up. 679 00:27:06,341 --> 00:27:08,648 It's your ball. 680 00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:16,307 Your Honor, 681 00:27:16,351 --> 00:27:17,613 with the court's permission, 682 00:27:17,657 --> 00:27:20,747 the defense would like to call Denise Danford. 683 00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:22,966 Scuse me. 684 00:27:23,010 --> 00:27:25,229 Objection, Your Honor. 685 00:27:25,273 --> 00:27:28,450 We have no information regarding this witness. 686 00:27:28,493 --> 00:27:31,279 Her name is nowhere on the witness list. 687 00:27:31,322 --> 00:27:34,238 Clearly, defense counsel is playing fast and loose 688 00:27:34,282 --> 00:27:36,284 with the rules of discovery. 689 00:27:37,807 --> 00:27:39,374 Is this true? 690 00:27:39,417 --> 00:27:42,682 Did you not share this witness'sname with opposing counsel? 691 00:27:42,725 --> 00:27:44,379 Unfortunately, Your Honor, 692 00:27:44,422 --> 00:27:47,730 Mrs. Danford has beenvery, verydifficult to locate. 693 00:27:47,774 --> 00:27:50,341 But the good news is, after looking and looking, 694 00:27:50,385 --> 00:27:53,170 we were able to make contact with her this morning, 695 00:27:53,214 --> 00:27:54,606 shortly before trial. 696 00:27:54,650 --> 00:27:58,349 Or I promise we would have giventhe opposing counsel 697 00:27:58,393 --> 00:28:00,090 plenty of notice. 698 00:28:00,134 --> 00:28:01,875 I do hope that my esteemed colleague 699 00:28:01,918 --> 00:28:05,226 can find it in his heart to forgive me. 700 00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:07,750 I'm sure he can. 701 00:28:07,794 --> 00:28:09,665 Let's swear in the witness. 702 00:28:09,709 --> 00:28:11,232 And as was the case 703 00:28:11,275 --> 00:28:13,887 when the shoe was on the other foot, Mr. Colón, 704 00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:16,585 if you need extra time to prepare 705 00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,587 after direct examination, 706 00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:20,415 we will make an accommodation. 707 00:28:20,458 --> 00:28:22,678 Thank you, Your Honor. 708 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,029 DENISE: Finn and I 709 00:28:26,073 --> 00:28:28,118 tried to talk every Sunday. 710 00:28:28,162 --> 00:28:29,772 FaceTime. 711 00:28:29,816 --> 00:28:31,469 For a while, it seemed like, 712 00:28:31,513 --> 00:28:34,516 every other call, he would mention this girl. 713 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,387 Claire. 714 00:28:37,475 --> 00:28:39,739 And it was obviousfrom the way he talked about her 715 00:28:39,782 --> 00:28:42,654 that...she was special. 716 00:28:42,698 --> 00:28:45,788 Then... 717 00:28:45,832 --> 00:28:48,835 at the end of his first semesterjunior year, 718 00:28:48,878 --> 00:28:50,358 we were gonna have a conversation 719 00:28:50,401 --> 00:28:53,578 about perhaps applying for another student loan. 720 00:28:53,622 --> 00:28:56,320 And he told me not to worry about it. 721 00:28:56,364 --> 00:28:58,453 That he was leaving school. 722 00:28:58,496 --> 00:29:00,934 That he wanted to try living in New York. 723 00:29:00,977 --> 00:29:03,284 And how did you feel about that? 724 00:29:03,327 --> 00:29:05,112 It scared me. 725 00:29:06,113 --> 00:29:08,245 New York scared me. 726 00:29:11,205 --> 00:29:13,381 [shudders] The first time I came to New York 727 00:29:13,424 --> 00:29:15,949 was to identify Finn's body. 728 00:29:18,168 --> 00:29:20,344 This is my second time. 729 00:29:22,390 --> 00:29:24,784 And I... [shudders] 730 00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:26,786 I wasn't sure how he was gonna do it, 731 00:29:26,829 --> 00:29:29,353 how he was going to pay for it. 732 00:29:30,877 --> 00:29:33,401 But he kept telling me not to worry about it. [chuckles] 733 00:29:33,444 --> 00:29:35,577 So I... 734 00:29:35,620 --> 00:29:37,971 I tried my best not to. 735 00:29:39,624 --> 00:29:42,149 And I sensed that he was in love. 736 00:29:42,192 --> 00:29:44,325 So... 737 00:29:44,368 --> 00:29:47,458 I knew he wasn't here alone. 738 00:29:48,459 --> 00:29:49,896 Mrs. Danford, 739 00:29:49,939 --> 00:29:52,115 your son died. 740 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,465 But you're not a party to this litigation. 741 00:29:54,509 --> 00:29:57,251 Can you please tell the jury why? 742 00:29:58,905 --> 00:30:01,690 Because I don't think it's that girl's fault. 743 00:30:02,865 --> 00:30:04,301 I'm sorry. I mean, I... 744 00:30:04,345 --> 00:30:06,086 I knowwe've never met, 745 00:30:06,129 --> 00:30:09,437 and I knowwe both lost our children. 746 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,526 But in my heart of hearts, I-I... 747 00:30:11,569 --> 00:30:14,703 I just don't think that girl had anything to do with it. 748 00:30:14,746 --> 00:30:16,052 Objection, Your Honor. 749 00:30:16,096 --> 00:30:19,186 The witness is offering speculation as testimony 750 00:30:19,229 --> 00:30:21,492 and is addressing the plaintiff directly. 751 00:30:21,536 --> 00:30:23,538 Please, Mrs. Danford, 752 00:30:23,581 --> 00:30:25,366 just answerthe lawyer's questions 753 00:30:25,409 --> 00:30:27,803 with the factsas you understand them. 754 00:30:27,847 --> 00:30:31,241 And don't address the plaintiff directly. 755 00:30:31,285 --> 00:30:33,417 I apologize. 756 00:30:33,461 --> 00:30:35,506 CHUNK: So, Mrs. Danford, 757 00:30:35,550 --> 00:30:38,814 who do you think is responsiblefor your son's death? 758 00:30:38,858 --> 00:30:41,556 I'm not sure anyone's responsible. 759 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:43,819 It seems like it was an accident. 760 00:30:45,125 --> 00:30:46,256 I mean, 761 00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:47,910 if you're gonna holdanyone responsible, 762 00:30:47,954 --> 00:30:48,911 maybe... 763 00:30:48,955 --> 00:30:50,957 it's the building inspectors. 764 00:30:52,001 --> 00:30:54,177 But then they said the building was dangerous. 765 00:30:54,221 --> 00:30:57,006 They ordered it locked. It was locked. 766 00:30:58,007 --> 00:31:00,575 So maybe it's the politicians. 767 00:31:00,618 --> 00:31:02,403 What do you mean by "the politicians"? 768 00:31:02,446 --> 00:31:04,579 The government. 769 00:31:04,622 --> 00:31:05,972 The people who are supposed to make sure 770 00:31:06,015 --> 00:31:07,799 this city is a place where everyone can live, 771 00:31:07,843 --> 00:31:09,627 not just rich people. 772 00:31:09,671 --> 00:31:12,543 Your Honor, I have withheld my initial objections 773 00:31:12,587 --> 00:31:14,023 out of respect for Mrs. Danford. 774 00:31:14,067 --> 00:31:16,243 But, clearly, the defense is determined 775 00:31:16,286 --> 00:31:18,593 to go down this road. So I have to ask 776 00:31:18,636 --> 00:31:20,987 how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand. 777 00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:22,510 Objection sustained. 778 00:31:22,553 --> 00:31:23,990 Uh, Mr. Palmer, 779 00:31:24,033 --> 00:31:25,208 anything else? 780 00:31:25,252 --> 00:31:28,559 So, one last time, Mrs. Danford, 781 00:31:28,603 --> 00:31:31,040 do you think that my client is responsible 782 00:31:31,084 --> 00:31:33,651 for your son's death? 783 00:31:33,695 --> 00:31:35,479 No. 784 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,353 In fact, I look at her 785 00:31:39,396 --> 00:31:41,398 and I see my son. 786 00:31:42,486 --> 00:31:44,836 She was in the same boat as the rest of them, 787 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,883 just doing the best she could. 788 00:31:47,927 --> 00:31:50,886 Maybe making some unwise choices, but... 789 00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:54,281 she meant no ill will towards anyone. 790 00:31:54,324 --> 00:31:57,632 She was just trying to put a roof over people's heads. 791 00:31:57,675 --> 00:32:00,026 Thank you, Mrs. Danford. 792 00:32:00,069 --> 00:32:01,897 No further questions. 793 00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:11,951 [quietly]:I feel them slipping away. 794 00:32:11,994 --> 00:32:14,431 [exhales] 795 00:32:14,475 --> 00:32:16,520 Is Danny en route? 796 00:32:16,564 --> 00:32:19,306 20 minutes away. 797 00:32:19,349 --> 00:32:20,872 CHUNK: So, 798 00:32:20,916 --> 00:32:23,397 when Reggie Craven pointed out the bowing in the ceiling, 799 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,486 how did you react? 800 00:32:25,529 --> 00:32:27,096 Honestly? 801 00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:29,446 I thought... 802 00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:31,144 "Okay." 803 00:32:31,187 --> 00:32:34,190 And, "What would you like me to do about it?" 804 00:32:35,409 --> 00:32:38,368 I didn't think that it was dangerous, 805 00:32:38,412 --> 00:32:41,806 just kind of... ugly. 806 00:32:41,850 --> 00:32:45,071 And truthfully, the whole place was ugly. 807 00:32:45,114 --> 00:32:47,247 There were water stains everywhere. 808 00:32:47,290 --> 00:32:49,249 The floor was uneven. 809 00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,991 And you could feel the wind whip through every night. 810 00:32:52,034 --> 00:32:55,298 I was much more worried that... 811 00:32:55,342 --> 00:32:56,996 the neighbors would realize that we were stealing 812 00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:58,214 their electricity, 813 00:32:58,258 --> 00:33:00,390 and the space heaters would turn off. 814 00:33:00,434 --> 00:33:02,523 I was much more worried 815 00:33:02,566 --> 00:33:05,221 that the coffee shop and the hotel down the street 816 00:33:05,265 --> 00:33:07,049 were getting smart to us 817 00:33:07,093 --> 00:33:09,617 and would stop letting us use their bathrooms. 818 00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:11,706 But, I mean... 819 00:33:11,749 --> 00:33:14,317 it was free, 820 00:33:14,361 --> 00:33:17,190 and we had space to paint 821 00:33:17,233 --> 00:33:19,844 and sculpt... 822 00:33:19,888 --> 00:33:21,629 and sleep. 823 00:33:21,672 --> 00:33:23,631 Thank you, Miss Knowles. 824 00:33:23,674 --> 00:33:25,415 No further questions. 825 00:33:29,854 --> 00:33:31,813 Good afternoon, Miss Knowles. 826 00:33:31,856 --> 00:33:33,423 Good afternoon. 827 00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:35,077 You know, it never crossed your mind after Reggie Craven 828 00:33:35,121 --> 00:33:38,950 pointed out what was going on above your head that maybe... 829 00:33:38,994 --> 00:33:41,431 you know, you should get the hell out of there? 830 00:33:42,476 --> 00:33:44,652 I guess I'm stupid. 831 00:33:44,695 --> 00:33:48,525 No. It never occurred to me. 832 00:33:48,569 --> 00:33:51,659 Maybe because I knew that none of us had anywhere else to go. 833 00:33:51,702 --> 00:33:52,964 Mm-hmm. 834 00:33:53,008 --> 00:33:54,575 Your Honor, with the court's permission, 835 00:33:54,618 --> 00:33:56,925 the plaintiffs would like to enter into evidence 836 00:33:56,968 --> 00:33:58,753 a series of text messages: 837 00:33:58,796 --> 00:34:02,061 part of a group text between Miss Knowles 838 00:34:02,104 --> 00:34:02,800 and the two victims. 839 00:34:02,844 --> 00:34:04,585 Your Honor, again? 840 00:34:04,628 --> 00:34:06,413 This is trial by ambush! 841 00:34:06,456 --> 00:34:08,284 Now, why is thisnot a violation 842 00:34:08,328 --> 00:34:10,286 of the rules of discovery, Mr. Colón? 843 00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:14,377 [sighs] Truthfully, this is all my mistake, Your Honor. 844 00:34:14,421 --> 00:34:16,858 It did not dawn on me to ask to see 845 00:34:16,901 --> 00:34:20,296 the late Miss Waters's cell phone until yesterday. 846 00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:22,124 And it's takenfrom then until now 847 00:34:22,168 --> 00:34:23,473 for my investigator 848 00:34:23,517 --> 00:34:25,301 to unlock her phone and uncover the messages 849 00:34:25,345 --> 00:34:27,303 I'm about to share with you. 850 00:34:27,347 --> 00:34:29,436 I apologize, and I'm happy to go about it 851 00:34:29,479 --> 00:34:31,481 in any way thatpleases the court. 852 00:34:31,525 --> 00:34:33,527 ButI do think the jury's gonna want to hear 853 00:34:33,570 --> 00:34:35,659 the evidence I'm about to offer. 854 00:34:35,703 --> 00:34:36,834 [quietly]: He's good, isn't he? 855 00:34:36,878 --> 00:34:38,053 CHUNK:And are we supposed 856 00:34:38,097 --> 00:34:39,620 to just take Mr. Colón's word for it 857 00:34:39,663 --> 00:34:41,274 that these texts are genuine? 858 00:34:41,317 --> 00:34:43,928 As I mentioned a moment ago,this is a three-way conversation 859 00:34:43,972 --> 00:34:46,496 between Claire, her boyfriend Finn, 860 00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:47,758 and Miss Knowles. 861 00:34:47,802 --> 00:34:50,152 All counsel has to dois reach out 862 00:34:50,196 --> 00:34:52,328 to his client and ask to see her cell phone. 863 00:34:52,372 --> 00:34:55,418 Although I fully intendon asking her in a minuteif she remembers 864 00:34:55,462 --> 00:34:58,291 sending and receiving those messages. 865 00:34:58,334 --> 00:35:01,163 HUDSON: Since I don't know where you're going, Counsel, 866 00:35:01,207 --> 00:35:05,124 and since Miss Knowles isscheduled as our final witness, 867 00:35:05,167 --> 00:35:08,388 I feel I have no real choice but to let you proceed. 868 00:35:08,431 --> 00:35:10,216 But, Mr. Colón, 869 00:35:10,259 --> 00:35:11,869 be forewarned, 870 00:35:11,913 --> 00:35:15,743 if you stray outside the lines of legal propriety, 871 00:35:15,786 --> 00:35:19,921 I will cite you so fast it will make your head spin. 872 00:35:19,964 --> 00:35:22,184 Understood, Your Honor. Thank you. 873 00:35:22,228 --> 00:35:23,707 Now, Miss Knowles... 874 00:35:23,751 --> 00:35:29,235 [sighs] this here isa text message you sent 875 00:35:29,278 --> 00:35:31,280 to Claire Waters and Finn Danford 876 00:35:31,324 --> 00:35:33,108 before they moved into the warehouse. 877 00:35:33,152 --> 00:35:34,414 Now, would you please read it 878 00:35:34,457 --> 00:35:36,938 to the court? 879 00:35:36,981 --> 00:35:38,679 "Hey, Claire and Finn. 880 00:35:38,722 --> 00:35:43,423 "I've decided I'm moving my bedto a different part of the loft. 881 00:35:43,466 --> 00:35:46,077 "I want you to sleep where I've been. 882 00:35:47,383 --> 00:35:49,168 "It's far away from everyone else, 883 00:35:49,211 --> 00:35:52,301 and it will give the two of yousome privacy." 884 00:35:52,345 --> 00:35:54,173 You remember sending that? 885 00:35:54,216 --> 00:35:55,826 Yeah. I do. 886 00:35:55,870 --> 00:35:58,220 Let me try to understand this. 887 00:35:58,264 --> 00:36:02,485 You'd been sleeping underneath the bulge in the ceiling, 888 00:36:02,529 --> 00:36:05,096 but after Reggie Craven warned you about it, 889 00:36:05,140 --> 00:36:07,969 you moved your bedand offered that spot 890 00:36:08,012 --> 00:36:09,927 to my client's daughter and her boyfriend. 891 00:36:09,971 --> 00:36:11,364 That's true, but... 892 00:36:11,407 --> 00:36:12,800 But what? 893 00:36:12,843 --> 00:36:15,019 You discovered your life was in danger, 894 00:36:15,063 --> 00:36:16,456 and you protected yourself 895 00:36:16,499 --> 00:36:18,240 at the expense of two other people. 896 00:36:18,284 --> 00:36:21,461 Objection. Counsel is badgering the witness. 897 00:36:21,504 --> 00:36:22,810 Overruled. 898 00:36:22,853 --> 00:36:25,029 The witness shall answer.That is what happened, 899 00:36:25,073 --> 00:36:26,379 isn't it? 900 00:36:27,423 --> 00:36:28,990 [crying]: I made the move 901 00:36:29,033 --> 00:36:30,470 because they were a couple. 902 00:36:30,513 --> 00:36:32,733 And it was the sleeping space that was the furthest 903 00:36:32,776 --> 00:36:34,300 from everybody else. 904 00:36:34,343 --> 00:36:36,650 It was as simple as that. 905 00:36:36,693 --> 00:36:39,479 I didn't know that there was gonna be 906 00:36:39,522 --> 00:36:40,741 a torrential rainstorm. 907 00:36:40,784 --> 00:36:43,265 I didn't know that the roofwas gonna cave in. 908 00:36:43,309 --> 00:36:46,137 I was just trying to be nice. 909 00:36:48,444 --> 00:36:50,664 Maybe you did and maybe you didn't. 910 00:36:50,707 --> 00:36:53,797 But that is for the jury to decide. 911 00:36:53,841 --> 00:36:56,104 Nothing further, Your Honor. 912 00:37:02,632 --> 00:37:04,895 Benny owned that courtroom. 913 00:37:04,939 --> 00:37:06,897 He's been at ita long time. 914 00:37:06,941 --> 00:37:08,986 All the theatrics, the timing, 915 00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:10,988 the "we just found this witness," 916 00:37:11,032 --> 00:37:13,295 "we just found this evidence." 917 00:37:13,339 --> 00:37:15,558 He made that what the trial was about. 918 00:37:15,602 --> 00:37:17,038 Mm. 919 00:37:17,081 --> 00:37:19,083 The job is to win. 920 00:37:19,127 --> 00:37:21,085 Yeah, well... 921 00:37:21,129 --> 00:37:23,523 It just doesn't seem right. 922 00:37:23,566 --> 00:37:25,394 How do you mean? 923 00:37:25,438 --> 00:37:28,528 If Evelyn loses, if his client loses, 924 00:37:28,571 --> 00:37:30,747 practically nothing changes in her life. 925 00:37:30,791 --> 00:37:33,533 She gets to go home to the same 800-thread-count sheet 926 00:37:33,576 --> 00:37:36,579 she's been sleeping in for the past two decades. 927 00:37:36,623 --> 00:37:39,843 But if Lily loses, if ourclient loses, 928 00:37:39,887 --> 00:37:42,324 everything changes. 929 00:37:42,368 --> 00:37:44,544 She's staring at a mountain of debt, 930 00:37:44,587 --> 00:37:46,546 possibly a decade in prison, 931 00:37:46,589 --> 00:37:49,679 and I will have profoundly failed her. 932 00:37:52,726 --> 00:37:55,729 Welcome to a lifein the law, Counselor. 933 00:38:01,778 --> 00:38:03,345 [knocking] 934 00:38:03,389 --> 00:38:04,346 BULL: Yes? 935 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:05,913 Any word? 936 00:38:06,957 --> 00:38:08,655 Ask the lawyer. 937 00:38:08,698 --> 00:38:11,135 Nope. Not a peep. 938 00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:13,747 Three days. 939 00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:17,316 What the heck could the jurybe talking about for three days? 940 00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:18,752 I'm concerned they're debating 941 00:38:18,795 --> 00:38:21,363 how much pain to inflict on Lily. 942 00:38:21,407 --> 00:38:22,973 As in how many dollars? 943 00:38:23,017 --> 00:38:25,019 As in how many millions. 944 00:38:25,062 --> 00:38:27,456 Hard to deny a mother who's lost her only child. 945 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:30,851 Wow. You're a big up. Positively inspirational. 946 00:38:30,894 --> 00:38:32,505 You know what they say. 947 00:38:32,548 --> 00:38:35,159 "Expect the worst and you'll never be disappointed." 948 00:38:35,203 --> 00:38:38,119 You allow this kind of behaviorin your office? 949 00:38:38,162 --> 00:38:40,861 I've been trying to talk sense into him all morning. 950 00:38:40,904 --> 00:38:42,906 Look, we picked a good jury. 951 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:45,387 Foreperson looked like she was siding with us. 952 00:38:45,431 --> 00:38:48,042 Judge instructed them to stick to the facts and the evidence. 953 00:38:48,085 --> 00:38:51,001 Call me crazy, but I prefer to keep a good thought. 954 00:38:52,438 --> 00:38:54,962 It's easy to find someone not guilty. 955 00:38:55,005 --> 00:38:57,007 It's hard to find someone culpable, 956 00:38:57,051 --> 00:38:59,358 particularly when there are deaths involved. 957 00:38:59,401 --> 00:39:01,316 You know, many people take no pleasure 958 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,013 in ruining someone else's life. 959 00:39:03,057 --> 00:39:04,188 That's why it takes juries 960 00:39:04,232 --> 00:39:07,061 a while to do it. 961 00:39:07,104 --> 00:39:09,193 So you're pretty convincedthey're gonna find Lily liable? 962 00:39:09,237 --> 00:39:11,544 I can't imagine what else they'd be talking about 963 00:39:11,587 --> 00:39:12,893 this whole time. 964 00:39:12,936 --> 00:39:14,068 Wonder what Bull thinks. 965 00:39:14,111 --> 00:39:15,852 Why don't you ask him? 966 00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:17,245 Jury's behind closed doors. 967 00:39:17,288 --> 00:39:19,682 Both sides of the case have rested. 968 00:39:19,726 --> 00:39:21,815 We're allowed to talk to each other now. 969 00:39:21,858 --> 00:39:24,470 Well, I know. I just... I think we both just felt like 970 00:39:24,513 --> 00:39:26,123 the time to compare notes is 971 00:39:26,167 --> 00:39:29,213 after it's all over, after there's a verdict. 972 00:39:29,257 --> 00:39:31,128 You spoken to Bull? 973 00:39:31,172 --> 00:39:32,521 Not yet. 974 00:39:32,565 --> 00:39:35,045 I may walk upstairs in a little while. 975 00:39:35,089 --> 00:39:36,656 [phone vibrates] 976 00:39:36,699 --> 00:39:38,440 Ooh. Best laid plans... 977 00:39:41,922 --> 00:39:43,140 Jury's back. 978 00:39:43,184 --> 00:39:44,707 [gavel bangs] 979 00:39:44,751 --> 00:39:46,622 HUDSON: Madam Foreperson, 980 00:39:46,666 --> 00:39:48,624 has the jury reached a verdict? 981 00:39:48,668 --> 00:39:50,060 We have. 982 00:39:50,104 --> 00:39:51,366 How do you find? 983 00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:53,760 Your Honor, we wantedto avoid a deadlock, 984 00:39:53,803 --> 00:39:55,457 so we reacheda compromise agreement. 985 00:39:55,501 --> 00:39:59,156 We feel for both sidesin this case, and... 986 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,462 so both sides won a little, 987 00:40:00,506 --> 00:40:02,464 and both sides losta little, and... 988 00:40:02,508 --> 00:40:04,771 Just render your verdict, please. 989 00:40:04,814 --> 00:40:08,209 We find the defendant,Lily Knowles, 990 00:40:08,252 --> 00:40:11,168 liable for the deathof Claire Waters. 991 00:40:15,956 --> 00:40:18,001 And we assess the followingfinancial damages, 992 00:40:18,045 --> 00:40:20,308 payable to Evelyn Waters, 993 00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:23,093 in the amountof one dollar. 994 00:40:23,137 --> 00:40:25,226 ♪ 995 00:40:30,144 --> 00:40:31,537 [whispers]:This is good. 996 00:40:38,282 --> 00:40:41,329 HUDSON: Ladies and gentlemen, the jury has spoken. 997 00:40:41,372 --> 00:40:43,200 [whispers]: Loud and clear. 998 00:40:44,245 --> 00:40:46,073 And we are adjourned. 999 00:40:47,204 --> 00:40:49,206 [exhales] 1000 00:40:57,563 --> 00:40:59,565 A.D.A. Kiehl. 1001 00:40:59,608 --> 00:41:01,349 You found me.I've been 1002 00:41:01,392 --> 00:41:02,655 in court all day. 1003 00:41:02,698 --> 00:41:05,092 My boss just gave me a message from my sister 1004 00:41:05,135 --> 00:41:06,615 that you were looking for me. 1005 00:41:06,659 --> 00:41:09,139 [claps hands]I called your office, and they said 1006 00:41:09,183 --> 00:41:11,272 you were here. I literally 1007 00:41:11,315 --> 00:41:13,579 just got the verdict and ran right over here. 1008 00:41:13,622 --> 00:41:15,929 Is thisthe roof-collapsing thing? 1009 00:41:15,972 --> 00:41:17,234 The one where your firm is representing 1010 00:41:17,278 --> 00:41:18,322 both sides of the case? 1011 00:41:18,366 --> 00:41:20,020 Oh, yeah, that's the one. 1012 00:41:20,063 --> 00:41:21,587 Your side win? 1013 00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:22,936 We did. 1014 00:41:22,979 --> 00:41:25,329 Jury found for the plaintiff. 1015 00:41:25,373 --> 00:41:26,461 Congratulations. 1016 00:41:26,505 --> 00:41:27,506 Oh, yeah. 1017 00:41:27,549 --> 00:41:30,291 Awarded her a whole dollar. 1018 00:41:30,334 --> 00:41:31,640 You working contingency? 1019 00:41:31,684 --> 00:41:33,207 Mm, mm-mm. 1020 00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:34,513 No, God, no. 1021 00:41:34,556 --> 00:41:36,602 The other side was pro bono, 1022 00:41:36,645 --> 00:41:39,648 so who knows how we'll make outat the end. 1023 00:41:39,692 --> 00:41:41,215 That sounds pretty nutty. 1024 00:41:41,258 --> 00:41:42,608 Yeah. 1025 00:41:42,651 --> 00:41:43,783 No. 1026 00:41:43,826 --> 00:41:45,349 It was kind of fun, actually. 1027 00:41:45,393 --> 00:41:47,613 It was the first time in a whileI've flown solo, 1028 00:41:47,656 --> 00:41:51,442 no Dr. Bull flying the plane, just me, you know? 1029 00:41:51,486 --> 00:41:53,183 I kind of dug it. 1030 00:41:53,227 --> 00:41:54,576 Mm. 1031 00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:57,405 But that can't be why you wanted to see me. 1032 00:41:57,448 --> 00:41:58,928 Mm. 1033 00:41:58,972 --> 00:42:01,931 Right. So, I know we just had an election this year, 1034 00:42:01,975 --> 00:42:03,324 so this is gonna sound 1035 00:42:03,367 --> 00:42:05,500 a little bit strange,but, um, tomorrow morning 1036 00:42:05,544 --> 00:42:07,850 you're gonna read that my boss,our current D.A., 1037 00:42:07,894 --> 00:42:11,158 is up to his ears in a campaign finance scandal. 1038 00:42:11,201 --> 00:42:13,421 It turns out he is 1039 00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:15,075 the definition of dirty. 1040 00:42:15,118 --> 00:42:18,557 And so that means there's gonnabe another election in April. 1041 00:42:19,645 --> 00:42:21,211 Oh, my God, I'm sorry, man. 1042 00:42:21,255 --> 00:42:23,474 Yeah, which, uh,brings me to the other thing. 1043 00:42:23,518 --> 00:42:25,259 Benny... 1044 00:42:25,302 --> 00:42:28,131 would you ever consider runningto be the district attorney 1045 00:42:28,175 --> 00:42:30,220 for the City of New York? 1046 00:42:30,264 --> 00:42:33,441 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1047 00:42:33,484 --> 00:42:36,226 and TOYOTA. 1048 00:42:36,270 --> 00:42:39,447 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org