1 00:00:03,343 --> 00:00:05,441 It was raining. 2 00:00:05,465 --> 00:00:08,345 One of those scary, pounding rains 3 00:00:08,369 --> 00:00:09,949 where the wind makes it sound 4 00:00:09,973 --> 00:00:12,375 like a locomotive is right outside your window. 5 00:00:12,399 --> 00:00:14,932 We were all asleep. 6 00:00:14,956 --> 00:00:17,272 But even with the sound of the winds howling, 7 00:00:17,296 --> 00:00:21,259 there was all of a sudden this boom. 8 00:00:21,283 --> 00:00:24,596 I thought that a helicopter or a plane had fallen 9 00:00:24,620 --> 00:00:26,613 into the building. 10 00:00:30,990 --> 00:00:33,956 My friends Claire and Finn were lying in bed together 11 00:00:33,980 --> 00:00:36,296 when they were crushed by the weight of the beam 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,270 as it crashed through the ceiling. 13 00:00:42,083 --> 00:00:45,309 This building was built in the 1870s. 14 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:49,493 It was a cigar factory for 75 years. 15 00:00:50,533 --> 00:00:52,676 Then it was a sweatshop 16 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:55,406 for another 20 or so. 17 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:59,740 Then a import-export warehouse, I think. 18 00:00:59,764 --> 00:01:01,387 Then about five years ago, 19 00:01:01,410 --> 00:01:04,246 the city came around and told the owner 20 00:01:04,270 --> 00:01:06,673 that he'd have to make a lot of improvements 21 00:01:06,697 --> 00:01:08,883 if he wanted to keep leasing the space. 22 00:01:08,907 --> 00:01:11,310 Indoor plumbing, for one thing. 23 00:01:11,334 --> 00:01:14,777 Decent heat and electric. 24 00:01:14,801 --> 00:01:16,770 Owner said no. 25 00:01:16,794 --> 00:01:18,894 Apparently, he lives in Asia somewhere. 26 00:01:18,918 --> 00:01:21,735 So they've been in a standoff ever since. 27 00:01:23,815 --> 00:01:25,523 And no one ever noticed 28 00:01:25,547 --> 00:01:28,148 a dozen squatters living in here? 29 00:01:34,648 --> 00:01:36,271 Lily 30 00:01:36,295 --> 00:01:38,307 did you know that your friend Claire 31 00:01:38,331 --> 00:01:40,474 came from a wealthy family? 32 00:01:40,497 --> 00:01:42,467 I had no idea. 33 00:01:42,491 --> 00:01:44,200 I looked at the court papers. 34 00:01:44,224 --> 00:01:45,847 You're the only one named. 35 00:01:45,871 --> 00:01:48,014 The only one being sued. 36 00:01:48,038 --> 00:01:51,505 Any idea why Claire's mother would single you out? 37 00:01:52,544 --> 00:01:55,641 I guess because I found the place, 38 00:01:55,665 --> 00:01:57,634 told everybody else about it. 39 00:01:57,658 --> 00:02:00,475 Nah. I think there's got to be more. 40 00:02:01,732 --> 00:02:05,565 I'm worried that... it's about something else. 41 00:02:05,589 --> 00:02:08,988 Sometimes when people can't convince the district attorney 42 00:02:09,012 --> 00:02:12,454 to bring criminal charges, they'll file a civil suit. 43 00:02:12,478 --> 00:02:14,405 Think of it as a dress rehearsal, 44 00:02:14,429 --> 00:02:17,135 a way that a plaintiff can convince a D.A. 45 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:19,952 that there's a case worth trying here. 46 00:02:19,976 --> 00:02:21,859 So what are you saying? 47 00:02:21,882 --> 00:02:24,415 I'm saying that if we don't win this first case, 48 00:02:24,438 --> 00:02:26,278 we might be looking at a second one, 49 00:02:26,302 --> 00:02:31,026 one where you're facing up to ten to 15 years in prison. 50 00:02:32,933 --> 00:02:35,118 She was... she was 19 years old. 51 00:02:35,142 --> 00:02:38,152 She had her whole life in front of her. 52 00:02:38,176 --> 00:02:40,319 Forgive me, Ms. Waters, 53 00:02:40,343 --> 00:02:44,306 but clearly, you and your family do all right. 54 00:02:44,329 --> 00:02:46,992 How did your late daughter wind up living 55 00:02:47,016 --> 00:02:49,313 in a rough neighborhood like Chinatown? 56 00:02:50,396 --> 00:02:54,706 My daughter and I were in a period of, estrangement. 57 00:02:54,729 --> 00:02:57,393 She... 58 00:02:57,417 --> 00:03:00,383 she had decided to leave college in her sophomore year, 59 00:03:00,407 --> 00:03:03,676 and I decided that was not something I could support. 60 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:05,453 She wanted to be a painter. 61 00:03:05,477 --> 00:03:07,489 She thought that college was a waste of time. 62 00:03:07,513 --> 00:03:11,172 I see. Her mind was made up, and, 63 00:03:11,196 --> 00:03:13,469 so was mine. 64 00:03:13,493 --> 00:03:16,787 I cut her off financially. 65 00:03:18,044 --> 00:03:20,143 I-I wasn't trying to hurt her. 66 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:23,740 I was trying to... shock her into reconsidering. 67 00:03:24,934 --> 00:03:27,360 S-Stupid. 68 00:03:28,401 --> 00:03:30,977 And the young man who died, 69 00:03:31,001 --> 00:03:33,274 Finn Danford, was he a boyfriend? 70 00:03:33,298 --> 00:03:35,440 I suppose. 71 00:03:35,464 --> 00:03:38,733 Probably a big part of the reason she left school. 72 00:03:38,757 --> 00:03:41,203 But as I say 73 00:03:41,227 --> 00:03:44,261 we were not speaking by that point. 74 00:03:46,211 --> 00:03:47,357 Is this it? 75 00:03:47,381 --> 00:03:49,114 Yes, ma'am. 76 00:03:50,588 --> 00:03:52,557 The fire department 77 00:03:52,581 --> 00:03:54,594 gave me a key to the padlock, so... 78 00:03:54,617 --> 00:03:56,198 I don't see 79 00:03:56,222 --> 00:03:58,084 any padlock. 80 00:04:03,848 --> 00:04:05,211 My goodness. 81 00:04:05,235 --> 00:04:07,594 Chunk? 82 00:04:07,618 --> 00:04:09,631 What are you doing here? 83 00:04:09,654 --> 00:04:11,018 I'm here with my client. 84 00:04:11,041 --> 00:04:12,880 Lily Knowles. 85 00:04:12,904 --> 00:04:15,004 My... 86 00:04:15,028 --> 00:04:17,041 I think we may have a problem here. 87 00:04:17,064 --> 00:04:18,861 This is my client, 88 00:04:18,885 --> 00:04:21,202 Claire Waters's mother, Evelyn Waters. 89 00:04:21,225 --> 00:04:23,324 My God, M-Mrs. Waters, I'm so sorry. I... 90 00:04:23,348 --> 00:04:24,971 No, no, no, that-that's enough. 91 00:04:24,995 --> 00:04:28,135 That's enough.Ms. Waters, I have to tell you something. 92 00:04:28,158 --> 00:04:30,778 Mr. Palmer here and I are not just friends. 93 00:04:30,802 --> 00:04:31,991 We're colleagues. 94 00:04:32,015 --> 00:04:34,158 We work at the same firm. 95 00:04:34,182 --> 00:04:36,065 I don't understand. 96 00:04:36,089 --> 00:04:37,884 Neither do I. Well 97 00:04:37,908 --> 00:04:39,878 the short version is... 98 00:04:39,902 --> 00:04:43,865 I'm afraid we might be staring at a conflict of interest. 99 00:04:43,888 --> 00:04:45,988 Who might be? 100 00:04:46,012 --> 00:04:47,722 All of us. 101 00:04:47,746 --> 00:04:50,279 In my 20-some-odd years of doing this for a living, 102 00:04:50,303 --> 00:04:52,488 I can honestly say that I have never, 103 00:04:52,512 --> 00:04:54,655 ever been as professionally embarrassed 104 00:04:54,679 --> 00:04:56,172 as I was this morning. 105 00:04:56,196 --> 00:04:59,552 I-I... I truly did not know what to say to that woman. 106 00:04:59,576 --> 00:05:01,675 Just tell her that you're sorry for wasting her time, 107 00:05:01,699 --> 00:05:04,319 but your esteemed colleague got there first. Case closed! 108 00:05:04,343 --> 00:05:06,095 Chunk! 109 00:05:06,119 --> 00:05:08,089 All I know is, I got a call last night 110 00:05:08,113 --> 00:05:10,039 from an attorney friend of mine. 111 00:05:10,063 --> 00:05:12,119 He has a very wealthy client whose daughter died 112 00:05:12,143 --> 00:05:13,939 in a tragic accident. 113 00:05:13,963 --> 00:05:15,499 They went to the D.A.'s office 114 00:05:15,523 --> 00:05:17,709 hoping to file some criminal charges. 115 00:05:17,733 --> 00:05:20,699 The D.A. demurred, suggested they file a civil suit 116 00:05:20,723 --> 00:05:22,996 and recommended me and this firm 117 00:05:23,020 --> 00:05:25,119 as the right folks to get the job done. 118 00:05:25,143 --> 00:05:27,286 I like the sound of that. 119 00:05:27,310 --> 00:05:28,846 Mr. Palmer? 120 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:31,186 I was just doing what you told me to do. 121 00:05:31,210 --> 00:05:32,963 And what was that? 122 00:05:32,987 --> 00:05:34,566 Remember? You said to me, 123 00:05:34,590 --> 00:05:37,037 "I'm thrilled to add you to the roster as an attorney, 124 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:40,156 "but, no one's walking in the door asking for you. 125 00:05:40,180 --> 00:05:41,543 "No one knows you exist. 126 00:05:41,567 --> 00:05:43,666 "So for the foreseeable future, 127 00:05:43,690 --> 00:05:44,923 "I'm gonna assign you some cases, 128 00:05:44,947 --> 00:05:47,003 "I'm gonna throw you some pro Bono work. 129 00:05:47,027 --> 00:05:50,253 "But what you really should do is get out there and hustle. 130 00:05:50,277 --> 00:05:51,900 "Anything to get in a courtroom. 131 00:05:51,924 --> 00:05:53,113 "Anything to help 132 00:05:53,137 --> 00:05:54,587 the legal community see you in action." 133 00:05:54,611 --> 00:05:55,974 And that's your hustle? 134 00:05:55,998 --> 00:05:58,054 A squatter who basically led a young couple 135 00:05:58,078 --> 00:06:00,784 to their death by allowing them to live in a building 136 00:06:00,808 --> 00:06:04,120 that the city declared wasn't fit for occupancy. 137 00:06:04,144 --> 00:06:07,413 I thought the idea was to bring in cases we can win. 138 00:06:07,437 --> 00:06:09,407 That "squatter" has a name. 139 00:06:09,431 --> 00:06:11,834 Lily Knowles... was referred to me 140 00:06:11,858 --> 00:06:14,347 by an organization called New York Artists for the Future. 141 00:06:14,371 --> 00:06:16,818 I did some work for them in the law clinic at school, 142 00:06:16,841 --> 00:06:19,417 so when the situation came up, they asked if I could help. 143 00:06:19,441 --> 00:06:21,064 A-And by the way, 144 00:06:21,088 --> 00:06:24,228 this is exactly the kind of case you were talking to me about. 145 00:06:24,251 --> 00:06:27,520 And I happen to think that this is a completely winnable case. 146 00:06:27,544 --> 00:06:29,514 The girl is being set up. 147 00:06:29,538 --> 00:06:32,071 She has no legal culpability for those two deaths. 148 00:06:32,094 --> 00:06:33,977 Well, that's for the jury to decide. 149 00:06:34,001 --> 00:06:35,711 And you seem. 150 00:06:35,735 --> 00:06:39,047 My client is the aggrieved party here. 151 00:06:39,071 --> 00:06:40,825 First of all, you don't have a client. 152 00:06:40,849 --> 00:06:43,165 Neither one of us does until this man 153 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:44,464 says so. 154 00:06:44,488 --> 00:06:46,111 And as far as aggrieved goes, 155 00:06:46,135 --> 00:06:48,668 that woman is worth a couple hundred million dollars, 156 00:06:48,692 --> 00:06:51,268 and she's suing a kid who doesn't have a pot to... 157 00:06:51,291 --> 00:06:53,545 Her daughter is dead! 158 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:56,338 And since you're bringing up her money, 159 00:06:56,362 --> 00:06:58,852 this is probably as good a time as any to remind everyone 160 00:06:58,876 --> 00:07:02,145 that she's actually prepared to pay for our services. 161 00:07:02,168 --> 00:07:05,462 Something I strongly suspect your client is not. 162 00:07:07,802 --> 00:07:10,162 The man makes a particularly cogent point. 163 00:07:10,186 --> 00:07:12,458 Look, I'm worried that if I don't defend this girl 164 00:07:12,482 --> 00:07:14,668 and get her acquitted, she's gonna be facing 165 00:07:14,692 --> 00:07:17,789 a lifetime of debt... not to mention what happens 166 00:07:17,813 --> 00:07:20,630 if they decide to bring criminal charges. 167 00:07:21,669 --> 00:07:23,725 Do you honestly think 168 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:26,109 you're the only person that can possibly represent her? 169 00:07:26,133 --> 00:07:27,452 No. 170 00:07:27,476 --> 00:07:29,663 But I do believe that I can get her acquitted. 171 00:07:29,686 --> 00:07:31,829 I believe in her. And I believe 172 00:07:31,853 --> 00:07:34,602 she's being unfairly prosecuted. Come on. 173 00:07:34,626 --> 00:07:36,249 That warehouse was a death trap. 174 00:07:36,273 --> 00:07:38,502 She had no business enticing people to live there. 175 00:07:38,526 --> 00:07:40,496 She was trying to foster a community of artists. 176 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,185 She was trying to live 177 00:07:42,209 --> 00:07:45,349 rent-free with her friends in a place she had no claim to! 178 00:07:45,373 --> 00:07:46,693 Man, you are so cold! 179 00:07:46,717 --> 00:07:48,209 I'm cold? You're naive! 180 00:07:48,233 --> 00:07:49,596 This isn't legal aid. 181 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:51,503 People are supposed to pay for the privilege 182 00:07:51,527 --> 00:07:53,062 of having us represent them. 183 00:07:53,086 --> 00:07:55,446 And it's actually good for business if they're innocent. 184 00:07:55,470 --> 00:07:56,510 Enough! 185 00:08:00,627 --> 00:08:03,593 I have no idea what to do here. 186 00:08:03,617 --> 00:08:06,019 Chunk, how much work have you done on this? 187 00:08:06,043 --> 00:08:07,450 We talked on the phone briefly 188 00:08:07,474 --> 00:08:09,226 a couple of times earlier this week. 189 00:08:09,250 --> 00:08:11,894 Short calls. Finally met face-to-face this morning. 190 00:08:13,541 --> 00:08:16,463 I spoke with Evelyn for the first time two hours ago. 191 00:08:16,487 --> 00:08:19,410 Well, then I have no choice... We have to go with Chunk, 192 00:08:19,434 --> 00:08:21,187 otherwise we're conflicted out. 193 00:08:21,211 --> 00:08:23,440 Here's a crazy idea. I mean, what if... 194 00:08:23,464 --> 00:08:26,084 TAC did represent both clients? 195 00:08:26,107 --> 00:08:28,467 Benny, you know as well as I do the likelihood of the court 196 00:08:28,491 --> 00:08:30,374 going along with something like that is one in a million. 197 00:08:30,398 --> 00:08:31,933 You don't know until you ask. 198 00:08:31,957 --> 00:08:33,667 More importantly, your client is never gonna go for it. 199 00:08:33,691 --> 00:08:37,351 Why should she pay you, knowing we are representing 200 00:08:37,375 --> 00:08:39,041 her opponent and doing it for free? 201 00:08:39,064 --> 00:08:40,341 All excellent arguments. 202 00:08:40,365 --> 00:08:43,051 I'm just asking for permission to try. 203 00:08:47,038 --> 00:08:51,780 Fine. If you can get the courts and all the principals to agree, 204 00:08:51,804 --> 00:08:54,034 then TAC will be happy 205 00:08:54,058 --> 00:08:56,331 to represent both sides. Could happen. 206 00:08:56,355 --> 00:08:58,195 Right after that blizzard in hell. 207 00:08:58,219 --> 00:09:01,121 Hey, did you see that pig just fly by? 208 00:09:13,818 --> 00:09:15,745 I would feel like a fool going into court 209 00:09:15,769 --> 00:09:17,305 under these circumstances. 210 00:09:17,329 --> 00:09:20,165 I know how it sounds. 211 00:09:20,189 --> 00:09:21,595 I know how it feels. 212 00:09:21,618 --> 00:09:24,628 But... I would be remiss if I didn't point out to you 213 00:09:24,652 --> 00:09:27,401 that there are certain... benefits going to court 214 00:09:27,425 --> 00:09:29,828 with someone who knows the other side so well, 215 00:09:29,852 --> 00:09:33,425 someone who can predict the irevery move before they make it. 216 00:09:33,449 --> 00:09:34,682 Be that as it may... 217 00:09:34,706 --> 00:09:36,502 See, the first thing that will happen is, 218 00:09:36,526 --> 00:09:38,582 the defense will file a motion to sever. 219 00:09:38,606 --> 00:09:40,792 That means they'll try and force you to have 220 00:09:40,815 --> 00:09:44,345 three separate trials... One against the city, 221 00:09:44,369 --> 00:09:45,602 one against the property owner, 222 00:09:45,626 --> 00:09:46,729 and one against Lily. 223 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:49,415 And then there's the Friday trick. 224 00:09:49,439 --> 00:09:51,106 What's the Friday trick? 225 00:09:51,130 --> 00:09:54,312 Chester Palmer... he's the attorney representing Lily... 226 00:09:54,336 --> 00:09:56,219 Will say he has a scheduling conflict. 227 00:09:56,243 --> 00:09:59,426 He'll ask for the trial to commence on a Friday. 228 00:09:59,450 --> 00:10:01,246 So? Worst day 229 00:10:01,270 --> 00:10:03,673 for a plaintiff, for you to start. 230 00:10:03,696 --> 00:10:05,795 You'd much rather start on a Monday. 231 00:10:05,819 --> 00:10:08,310 That way, you have five days to build momentum. 232 00:10:08,333 --> 00:10:10,303 You want to rest your case on a Friday, 233 00:10:10,327 --> 00:10:11,689 so the jury has 234 00:10:11,713 --> 00:10:13,293 all weekend to think about it. 235 00:10:13,317 --> 00:10:16,110 Then they'll be more likely to form an opinion 236 00:10:16,134 --> 00:10:18,233 that's favorable to your side. 237 00:10:18,257 --> 00:10:22,090 Chester Palmer sounds like a very smart man. 238 00:10:22,114 --> 00:10:25,123 Well, he learned from the best. 239 00:10:25,147 --> 00:10:27,247 One more thing. 240 00:10:27,271 --> 00:10:30,237 The other side will try to maneuver so that the case 241 00:10:30,261 --> 00:10:32,967 appears in front of a defense-friendly judge, 242 00:10:32,991 --> 00:10:35,350 someone more inclined to rule in their favor, 243 00:10:35,374 --> 00:10:36,779 give them the benefit of a doubt. 244 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:39,250 Now, I'm thinking Judge Tessa Hudson. 245 00:10:39,274 --> 00:10:42,934 We've stood before her many times, and... 246 00:10:42,958 --> 00:10:45,490 I happen to know she's up in the rotation. 247 00:10:45,514 --> 00:10:48,480 Judge Tessa Hudson. 248 00:10:48,504 --> 00:10:49,953 Good morning. 249 00:10:49,977 --> 00:10:53,247 Just so everybody understands how the COVID of it all 250 00:10:53,271 --> 00:10:54,807 works in my courtroom, 251 00:10:54,831 --> 00:10:58,707 I am behind plexiglass and I am socially distanced 252 00:10:58,731 --> 00:11:00,830 from everyone, so please don't let the fact that I am 253 00:11:00,854 --> 00:11:04,124 not wearing a mask cause you any concern. 254 00:11:04,148 --> 00:11:06,984 Witnesses are also seated behind plexiglass 255 00:11:07,008 --> 00:11:08,891 and are socially distanced. 256 00:11:08,914 --> 00:11:10,928 We feel it's important for the jurors 257 00:11:10,952 --> 00:11:13,701 to see their entire faces. 258 00:11:13,725 --> 00:11:16,518 Jurors are behind plexiglass and are required 259 00:11:16,541 --> 00:11:18,078 to wear masks because even though 260 00:11:18,102 --> 00:11:20,158 they are socially distanced, 261 00:11:20,182 --> 00:11:22,281 they are in a congregant group. 262 00:11:22,305 --> 00:11:24,578 And we are determined to keep them as safe 263 00:11:24,602 --> 00:11:26,441 as is humanly possible. 264 00:11:26,465 --> 00:11:29,128 As for the defense and plaintiff tables, 265 00:11:29,152 --> 00:11:30,775 whether or not you wear a mask is 266 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:32,811 totally up to you and your clients. 267 00:11:32,835 --> 00:11:35,498 You are far enough away that proximity should 268 00:11:35,521 --> 00:11:37,015 not pose an issue. 269 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:39,138 The only other rule for you is 270 00:11:39,162 --> 00:11:41,175 no more than two people at the table... 271 00:11:41,199 --> 00:11:44,078 Presumably the principal attorney and the client. 272 00:11:44,102 --> 00:11:47,588 All right, let's see if we can come to some kind 273 00:11:47,612 --> 00:11:50,405 of consensus on a trial date. 274 00:11:50,429 --> 00:11:52,615 If it pleases the court, 275 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:53,915 Your Honor, my schedule is 276 00:11:53,939 --> 00:11:55,475 pretty tight this week. 277 00:11:55,499 --> 00:11:57,555 I'd ask the court's indulgence that I be able to impanel 278 00:11:57,579 --> 00:11:59,549 on Thursday and begin the trial on Friday. 279 00:11:59,572 --> 00:12:01,759 All right. 280 00:12:01,783 --> 00:12:03,906 There's no objection from the plaintiff, I assume? 281 00:12:05,726 --> 00:12:10,295 Well, actually, we'd prefer to start earlier in the week. 282 00:12:10,319 --> 00:12:12,573 Speak plainly, Counsel. Are you not available on Friday? 283 00:12:13,699 --> 00:12:16,406 I am, but... Okay, Friday it is. 284 00:12:16,430 --> 00:12:19,656 Splendid. Now, does the defense wish to be heard 285 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,302 on the motion to sever? 286 00:12:21,326 --> 00:12:22,863 Your Honor 287 00:12:22,887 --> 00:12:25,506 obviously my client's defense is in direct conflict 288 00:12:25,530 --> 00:12:26,936 with the other two defendants... 289 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,276 The building owner and the city. 290 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:31,573 One is basically an impoverished individual with 291 00:12:31,597 --> 00:12:34,996 no direct responsibility for the condition of the building, 292 00:12:35,020 --> 00:12:37,336 whereas the other two are substantial entities 293 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,326 with access to abundant resources. 294 00:12:40,350 --> 00:12:41,669 Holding all three trials together 295 00:12:41,693 --> 00:12:43,576 would absolutely pose 296 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,659 undue prejudice. 297 00:12:44,683 --> 00:12:46,437 I would agree with you, Mr. Palmer. 298 00:12:46,461 --> 00:12:48,603 The motion to sever is allowed. 299 00:12:48,627 --> 00:12:51,030 Very well then. 300 00:12:51,054 --> 00:12:52,763 Our next order of business... 301 00:12:52,787 --> 00:12:54,800 Excuse me? 302 00:12:54,823 --> 00:12:57,530 Ms. Waters, where are you going? 303 00:12:57,554 --> 00:12:59,437 This is your trial. 304 00:12:59,460 --> 00:13:01,517 We're all here because of you. 305 00:13:01,540 --> 00:13:03,120 I'm sorry, Judge Hudson. 306 00:13:03,144 --> 00:13:04,766 Please feel free to continue. 307 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:07,410 I have to make a phone call. 308 00:13:07,434 --> 00:13:09,403 Okay 309 00:13:09,427 --> 00:13:10,833 run this by me again. 310 00:13:10,857 --> 00:13:12,784 You want to change counsel 311 00:13:12,808 --> 00:13:14,820 one day in? I do. 312 00:13:14,844 --> 00:13:16,511 And you want? BENNY: I am seeking 313 00:13:16,535 --> 00:13:19,284 the court's permission to file an appearance. 314 00:13:19,308 --> 00:13:20,714 As you well know, 315 00:13:20,737 --> 00:13:23,011 I'm employed by Dr. Jason Bull 316 00:13:23,035 --> 00:13:24,700 of the Trial Analysis Corporation, 317 00:13:24,724 --> 00:13:26,043 and so is Mr. Palmer, 318 00:13:26,067 --> 00:13:27,430 who is representing 319 00:13:27,454 --> 00:13:28,600 the defendant. 320 00:13:28,624 --> 00:13:30,334 Isn't this cozy? 321 00:13:30,358 --> 00:13:32,024 A little, perhaps, yes, 322 00:13:32,048 --> 00:13:34,365 but I just want to state for the record 323 00:13:34,388 --> 00:13:36,618 that I've had no contact with Mr. Palmer's client. 324 00:13:36,642 --> 00:13:38,741 I've not done any work on her case. 325 00:13:38,764 --> 00:13:40,431 In fact, I didn't even know 326 00:13:40,455 --> 00:13:42,987 that anyone from my firm had ever even spoken 327 00:13:43,011 --> 00:13:45,588 to the defendant until after I agreed to represent Ms. Waters. 328 00:13:45,612 --> 00:13:46,887 Your Honor, 329 00:13:46,911 --> 00:13:48,665 our firm is prepared to avoid any 330 00:13:48,689 --> 00:13:50,614 and all conflicts of interest. 331 00:13:50,638 --> 00:13:54,168 We will happily divide up our resources and our staff, 332 00:13:54,192 --> 00:13:58,328 and if necessary, even the office space itself. 333 00:13:58,352 --> 00:13:59,628 In addition, pursuant 334 00:13:59,652 --> 00:14:01,189 to the New York Rules of Professional Conduct, 335 00:14:01,212 --> 00:14:04,135 Section 1.7, I have informed my client of her rights, 336 00:14:04,159 --> 00:14:06,648 and she has signed a notice of informed consent. 337 00:14:06,672 --> 00:14:08,882 And my client has signed a similar document. 338 00:14:09,922 --> 00:14:11,458 Miss Knowles, 339 00:14:11,482 --> 00:14:13,755 while you cannot select 340 00:14:13,779 --> 00:14:16,225 who represents Ms. Waters, 341 00:14:16,249 --> 00:14:21,252 you are entitled to a lawyer free of any potential conflict. 342 00:14:21,276 --> 00:14:25,369 Your Honor, I-I want Mr. Palmer to be my attorney. 343 00:14:25,393 --> 00:14:27,059 I trust him. 344 00:14:27,083 --> 00:14:28,706 He gets me. 345 00:14:28,729 --> 00:14:31,782 And plus, he's working for free. 346 00:14:33,929 --> 00:14:35,336 Ms. Waters, 347 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,156 what was wrong with the lawyer 348 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:39,063 who accompanied you in court yesterday 349 00:14:39,087 --> 00:14:40,059 at the motions hearing? 350 00:14:40,083 --> 00:14:42,442 Nothing. He's just not the best, 351 00:14:42,466 --> 00:14:45,130 and Mr. Colón, in my opinion, is. 352 00:14:46,453 --> 00:14:48,466 That was subtle. 353 00:14:48,490 --> 00:14:52,020 Well, if, everybody's in agreement, 354 00:14:52,044 --> 00:14:53,579 I'm not gonna stand in your way. 355 00:14:53,603 --> 00:14:55,336 The motion is allowed. 356 00:14:59,194 --> 00:15:00,990 In order for this to work, 357 00:15:01,014 --> 00:15:02,289 it's absolutely crucial 358 00:15:02,313 --> 00:15:05,150 that there be no sharing of information. Marissa, 359 00:15:05,174 --> 00:15:07,576 I need you to figure out a way to firewall the console 360 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,137 so each team will only have access to their data. 361 00:15:09,161 --> 00:15:10,567 I can do that. 362 00:15:10,590 --> 00:15:12,040 Each side'll have their own password, 363 00:15:12,064 --> 00:15:13,383 and I'll make it so everyone 364 00:15:13,407 --> 00:15:15,723 can log in remotely from their laptops and tablets 365 00:15:15,747 --> 00:15:17,717 so no one's huddled around the monitors in the war room. 366 00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:19,883 Great. Benny, since you are the 367 00:15:19,907 --> 00:15:21,530 more experienced attorney, 368 00:15:21,554 --> 00:15:23,133 I'm assigning myself to Chunk's team. 369 00:15:23,157 --> 00:15:25,907 Fine. I'll take Marissa and Danny then. 370 00:15:25,931 --> 00:15:27,120 Sorry, Taylor. 371 00:15:27,144 --> 00:15:29,200 It's fine. I like hanging with the boys. 372 00:15:29,224 --> 00:15:31,020 And, Chunk, if you're good with it, 373 00:15:31,044 --> 00:15:32,754 we'll make my office our workspace? 374 00:15:32,777 --> 00:15:34,877 Room with a view? Solid. 375 00:15:34,901 --> 00:15:37,131 Benny, if you don't mind working down here? 376 00:15:37,155 --> 00:15:38,864 Works for me. 377 00:15:38,888 --> 00:15:40,491 All right. 378 00:16:03,892 --> 00:16:06,901 All right, Chunk, it's your party. How do you want to start? 379 00:16:06,925 --> 00:16:08,851 Well, obviously, voir dire is the first 380 00:16:08,875 --> 00:16:10,714 order of business. 381 00:16:10,738 --> 00:16:12,621 Since you've done that a thousand more times than I have, 382 00:16:12,645 --> 00:16:14,051 what do you think the play is? 383 00:16:14,075 --> 00:16:15,828 We need to find jurors who are open to the idea 384 00:16:15,852 --> 00:16:20,031 that what happened was simply beyond Lily's control. 385 00:16:20,055 --> 00:16:21,374 Which it was. 386 00:16:21,398 --> 00:16:23,021 That's right. In a perfect world, 387 00:16:23,045 --> 00:16:26,661 I'd want to seat intentional stand deselect consequentialists. 388 00:16:26,685 --> 00:16:29,132 One more time, for those of us who don't speak PhD? 389 00:16:29,156 --> 00:16:32,035 We want people who will focus not on what happened, 390 00:16:32,059 --> 00:16:33,985 but Lily's intent. 391 00:16:34,009 --> 00:16:36,151 Which was to create housing for her fellow artists 392 00:16:36,175 --> 00:16:38,102 and build a sense of community. 393 00:16:38,126 --> 00:16:39,792 So I have a question. 394 00:16:39,816 --> 00:16:41,915 Claire's boyfriend died in the accident, too. 395 00:16:41,939 --> 00:16:43,736 Why aren't his parents part of this lawsuit? 396 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,706 That is an excellent question. 397 00:16:47,962 --> 00:16:50,278 On it. 398 00:16:50,302 --> 00:16:52,272 We. 399 00:16:52,296 --> 00:16:53,962 Are suing for wrongful death, 400 00:16:53,986 --> 00:16:56,476 which means we have to prove 401 00:16:56,499 --> 00:16:59,683 Lily knowingly brought Claire into a dangerous situation. 402 00:16:59,707 --> 00:17:02,152 If I know Bull, he is gonna convince Chunk to argue 403 00:17:02,176 --> 00:17:04,579 that Lily was no different than any of the other squatters, 404 00:17:04,603 --> 00:17:06,962 that she's no more culpable than the rest of them, 405 00:17:06,986 --> 00:17:08,609 that in fact, she could have just as easily 406 00:17:08,633 --> 00:17:11,166 been underneath that beam as Evelyn's daughter. 407 00:17:11,190 --> 00:17:12,596 Of course that's what he's gonna do. 408 00:17:12,620 --> 00:17:13,896 You know what my grandmother used to say? 409 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,976 "Be careful when you point a finger at someone. 410 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,530 You'll discover there's three fingers pointing back at you." 411 00:17:19,554 --> 00:17:22,154 Come to think of it, we need jurors like your grandmother. 412 00:17:23,323 --> 00:17:26,507 People who think this Lily Girlset everything into motion 413 00:17:26,531 --> 00:17:31,273 by breaking into that building and inviting others to join her. 414 00:17:31,297 --> 00:17:33,700 Breaking the law and inviting others to join her. 415 00:17:33,723 --> 00:17:36,083 People who take responsibility for their own actions 416 00:17:36,107 --> 00:17:38,554 and expect others to do the same.Yup. 417 00:17:38,577 --> 00:17:42,106 We need to get rid of anyone who plays the blame game. 418 00:17:42,130 --> 00:17:43,537 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 419 00:17:43,561 --> 00:17:46,397 Okay. Let me ask you a question. 420 00:17:46,421 --> 00:17:48,607 Anybody here unhappy at work? 421 00:17:48,631 --> 00:17:51,250 All right. Juror number three, 422 00:17:51,274 --> 00:17:52,507 let's start with you. 423 00:17:52,531 --> 00:17:55,020 So, you are unhappy at your job? 424 00:17:55,044 --> 00:17:59,484 Well, let's just say I made some bad choices when I was younger. 425 00:17:59,508 --> 00:18:03,384 I was too interested in partying, having fun. 426 00:18:03,408 --> 00:18:05,464 I should have focused more on school. 427 00:18:05,488 --> 00:18:09,061 She's self-aware, takes responsibility for her flaws. 428 00:18:09,085 --> 00:18:10,448 I like her. 429 00:18:10,472 --> 00:18:12,614 Not blaming anyone else 430 00:18:12,638 --> 00:18:14,087 for where she is in life. 431 00:18:14,111 --> 00:18:16,428 Sounds like just the person we are looking for. 432 00:18:16,452 --> 00:18:19,721 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 433 00:18:19,744 --> 00:18:21,367 She's exactly who they're looking for. 434 00:18:21,391 --> 00:18:23,318 Your Honor, with your permission, 435 00:18:23,342 --> 00:18:26,004 we would like to thank and excuse juror number three. 436 00:18:29,538 --> 00:18:33,111 Who here has ever offered to water your neighbor's plants, 437 00:18:33,135 --> 00:18:35,971 maybe take in their mail while they're on vacation? 438 00:18:35,995 --> 00:18:37,401 Juror number 17. 439 00:18:37,425 --> 00:18:40,262 Neighbor of the year. Tell us your story. 440 00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:43,295 No story. I just agreed to feed my neighbor's cat 441 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:45,201 when he went to the Jersey Shore a few weeks ago. 442 00:18:45,225 --> 00:18:46,935 That was awfully nice of you. 443 00:18:46,959 --> 00:18:49,275 So let me, ask you this hypothetical. 444 00:18:49,299 --> 00:18:52,092 You're-you're in the apartment, you're feeding the cat. 445 00:18:52,115 --> 00:18:54,085 You accidentally break a vase. 446 00:18:54,109 --> 00:18:55,299 What would you do? 447 00:18:55,323 --> 00:18:56,729 Well, I don't know. 448 00:18:56,752 --> 00:18:59,266 I mean... does he know l did it? 449 00:19:00,695 --> 00:19:03,011 Maybe the cat knocked it over. 450 00:19:03,035 --> 00:19:05,266 Great. We got a comedian. Taylor, 451 00:19:05,290 --> 00:19:06,305 talk to me. 452 00:19:06,329 --> 00:19:08,385 He's a dentist, sole practitioner. 453 00:19:08,409 --> 00:19:10,855 And an avid mountain climber. 454 00:19:10,879 --> 00:19:12,762 Okay. That helps clarify things. 455 00:19:12,786 --> 00:19:14,582 He's an individualist, which means 456 00:19:14,606 --> 00:19:16,099 he'll be more likely to buy Benny's theory 457 00:19:16,123 --> 00:19:18,136 of personal responsibility. 458 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,862 We'd like to thank and excuse this juror. 459 00:19:21,886 --> 00:19:24,028 And what about you? 460 00:19:24,052 --> 00:19:25,762 Let's say you broke the vase. 461 00:19:25,786 --> 00:19:28,579 Well, then, I'd certainly offer to pay for it. 462 00:19:28,603 --> 00:19:32,176 Now, would it make me a bad person if I secretly hope 463 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,126 my neighbor says, "Don't worry about it"? 464 00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:37,184 No. As long as you're willing to step up. 465 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:40,851 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 466 00:19:42,037 --> 00:19:43,573 I'll kick her. 467 00:19:43,597 --> 00:19:45,566 Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. 468 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:47,040 I liked her answer. 469 00:19:47,064 --> 00:19:49,726 She was being honest almost to a fault. 470 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:51,070 Taylor, 471 00:19:51,093 --> 00:19:53,020 tell me something I don't know about this lady. 472 00:19:53,044 --> 00:19:56,010 Well, her Insta's filled with pictures of gifts she sends 473 00:19:56,034 --> 00:19:58,046 to her kids and grandkids for their birthdays. 474 00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:59,216 Everything's homemade, 475 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,337 everything individual and personalized. 476 00:20:02,361 --> 00:20:03,940 I knew it. 477 00:20:03,964 --> 00:20:06,020 Sounds like she's an intentionalist. 478 00:20:06,044 --> 00:20:07,710 What is that again? 479 00:20:07,733 --> 00:20:10,786 Someone for whom the intention of the deed is more important 480 00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:12,044 than the outcome. 481 00:20:12,068 --> 00:20:13,041 It could also mean she's a cheapskate. 482 00:20:13,064 --> 00:20:14,644 Your Honor, 483 00:20:14,668 --> 00:20:18,048 this juror is also acceptable to the defense. 484 00:20:19,131 --> 00:20:22,011 She is? 485 00:20:22,035 --> 00:20:24,004 What's he know that we don't know? 486 00:20:24,028 --> 00:20:25,998 I don't know. He's Bull. 487 00:20:26,021 --> 00:20:28,467 Ladies and gentlemen, we have our panel. 488 00:20:28,491 --> 00:20:30,071 Juror number 30, 489 00:20:30,095 --> 00:20:33,061 I am appointing you foreperson. 490 00:20:33,085 --> 00:20:35,988 Testimony begins first thing in the morning. 491 00:20:40,018 --> 00:20:42,204 She asleep? 492 00:20:42,228 --> 00:20:43,851 Do you hear her crying? 493 00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:44,804 No. 494 00:20:44,828 --> 00:20:46,407 Well, that's usually 495 00:20:46,431 --> 00:20:48,468 the giveaway. 496 00:20:51,805 --> 00:20:53,818 Do you have any idea why I haven't heard 497 00:20:53,842 --> 00:20:55,377 from my brother all night? 498 00:20:55,401 --> 00:20:57,848 I mean, I've texted and I've called. 499 00:20:57,872 --> 00:20:59,451 It's as if he's off the grid. 500 00:20:59,475 --> 00:21:02,181 He's up first tomorrow. 501 00:21:02,205 --> 00:21:05,475 He's probably at the office putting together his case. 502 00:21:05,499 --> 00:21:08,855 Really? It's after 11:00. 503 00:21:08,879 --> 00:21:12,842 The law is a cruel mistress. 504 00:21:12,866 --> 00:21:14,965 If he's at the office, then why aren't you? 505 00:21:14,989 --> 00:21:17,565 Because I'm here with you. 506 00:21:17,588 --> 00:21:18,692 Mr. Colón, 507 00:21:18,716 --> 00:21:20,815 you may call your first witness. 508 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:21,812 Yes, Your Honor. 509 00:21:21,836 --> 00:21:23,415 With the court's permission, 510 00:21:23,439 --> 00:21:26,579 the plaintiff would like to call Reggie Craven to the stand. 511 00:21:31,803 --> 00:21:33,165 Who is this? 512 00:21:33,189 --> 00:21:34,769 Remember what I said. 513 00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:36,892 We have to prove that Lily knowingly brought Claire 514 00:21:36,916 --> 00:21:38,885 into a dangerous situation. 515 00:21:38,909 --> 00:21:40,965 Objection. 516 00:21:40,989 --> 00:21:42,309 This is the first 517 00:21:42,332 --> 00:21:44,172 that the defense is hearing about this witness. 518 00:21:44,196 --> 00:21:46,729 His name does not appear on any witness list. 519 00:21:46,753 --> 00:21:49,243 And, frankly, I've never even heard of him. 520 00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:52,449 This is a clear violation of the rules of discovery. 521 00:21:52,473 --> 00:21:55,439 Is this true, Mr. Colón? 522 00:21:55,463 --> 00:21:57,649 Did you fail to provide defense counsel 523 00:21:57,673 --> 00:21:58,992 with a complete witness list 524 00:21:59,016 --> 00:22:02,069 prior to the start of proceedings this morning? 525 00:22:02,093 --> 00:22:05,449 Your Honor, Mr. Craven has been extremely difficult to locate. 526 00:22:05,473 --> 00:22:07,789 He doesn't have a permanent address, 527 00:22:07,813 --> 00:22:09,653 and we weren't able to make contact with him 528 00:22:09,677 --> 00:22:11,213 until about two hours ago. 529 00:22:11,236 --> 00:22:12,643 What a complete load of... 530 00:22:12,667 --> 00:22:14,203 That's my name. Don't wear it out. 531 00:22:14,227 --> 00:22:15,807 Shh. I'm going to take you at your word 532 00:22:15,831 --> 00:22:17,973 this time, Mr. Colón. 533 00:22:17,997 --> 00:22:19,576 But let's not make 534 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,790 a habit of this. 535 00:22:20,814 --> 00:22:22,047 Mr. Palmer, 536 00:22:22,071 --> 00:22:23,259 let's swear the witness in, 537 00:22:23,283 --> 00:22:24,604 see what he has to say. 538 00:22:24,628 --> 00:22:27,594 Then, if you feel you need extra time 539 00:22:27,618 --> 00:22:29,630 to prepare after direct examination, 540 00:22:29,654 --> 00:22:30,886 I promise, 541 00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:32,966 I will make an accommodation for that. 542 00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:35,567 Thank you, Your Honor. 543 00:22:35,591 --> 00:22:36,910 Now, Mr. Craven, 544 00:22:36,934 --> 00:22:39,033 you were one of the squatters at the warehouse 545 00:22:39,057 --> 00:22:42,544 where Claire Waters and Finn Danford lost their lives? 546 00:22:42,568 --> 00:22:44,190 Yes, sir. 547 00:22:44,214 --> 00:22:45,837 I lived there for about three weeks. 548 00:22:45,861 --> 00:22:47,787 But just so everybody's straight, 549 00:22:47,811 --> 00:22:50,170 I was there before the folks that died. 550 00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:52,121 So I never met Claire or Finn.Okay. 551 00:22:52,145 --> 00:22:55,197 Duly noted. But you lived there nonetheless. 552 00:22:55,221 --> 00:22:56,931 Now, how did you hear about the place? 553 00:22:56,955 --> 00:22:58,534 Lily. 554 00:22:58,558 --> 00:22:59,531 She told me about it. 555 00:22:59,555 --> 00:23:00,484 And how did you know Lily? 556 00:23:00,508 --> 00:23:01,481 Gallery shows. 557 00:23:01,505 --> 00:23:03,344 Openings. 558 00:23:03,368 --> 00:23:04,904 I'd bump into her all the time. 559 00:23:04,928 --> 00:23:07,635 Turns out we both liked events that featured art, 560 00:23:07,658 --> 00:23:09,498 free wine and things you could eat. 561 00:23:09,521 --> 00:23:11,361 Now, after you moved in, did you 562 00:23:11,385 --> 00:23:14,177 see anything that gave you cause for concern? 563 00:23:14,201 --> 00:23:16,432 A lot, actually. 564 00:23:16,455 --> 00:23:18,554 I mean, there were extension cords 565 00:23:18,578 --> 00:23:20,028 running between buildings, 566 00:23:20,052 --> 00:23:22,021 hanging out in the weather. 567 00:23:22,045 --> 00:23:23,928 There was a rodent problem. 568 00:23:23,952 --> 00:23:26,312 No bathroom, per Se. 569 00:23:26,336 --> 00:23:28,478 It was pretty rugged. Anything else? 570 00:23:28,502 --> 00:23:31,078 Well, I mean, you couldn't miss the water stains on the ceiling. 571 00:23:31,102 --> 00:23:34,632 There was actually a space where the ceiling was, 572 00:23:34,656 --> 00:23:35,629 bowing. 573 00:23:35,652 --> 00:23:37,232 Like-like, dripping down. 574 00:23:37,255 --> 00:23:39,269 And, it looked like water or something else 575 00:23:39,293 --> 00:23:41,132 had been collecting there for a long time. 576 00:23:41,156 --> 00:23:43,645 And did you... share your concerns with anyone? 577 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:45,898 I-I told Lily. 578 00:23:45,922 --> 00:23:47,545 Well, her bed was right underneath 579 00:23:47,569 --> 00:23:49,236 where the bulge was the biggest. 580 00:23:49,260 --> 00:23:51,185 So I just... didn't think it was safe. 581 00:23:51,209 --> 00:23:52,182 Or smart. 582 00:23:52,206 --> 00:23:53,222 So let me get this straight. 583 00:23:53,246 --> 00:23:55,216 You told the defendant 584 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,209 you thought the ceiling might be a hazard? 585 00:23:57,233 --> 00:23:58,595 I did. 586 00:23:58,619 --> 00:24:00,589 No wonder they hid this guy from us. 587 00:24:00,612 --> 00:24:02,626 And what did the defendant do about it? 588 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:05,183 Nothing, as far as I could tell. 589 00:24:05,207 --> 00:24:06,742 That's why, when I got enough money 590 00:24:06,766 --> 00:24:08,302 to get out of there, I-I did. 591 00:24:08,326 --> 00:24:09,992 Thank you, Mr. Craven. 592 00:24:10,016 --> 00:24:11,812 No further questions, Your Honor. 593 00:24:11,836 --> 00:24:12,982 I don't know 594 00:24:13,006 --> 00:24:14,673 what he expected me to do. 595 00:24:14,697 --> 00:24:16,146 I didn't own the place. 596 00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:17,706 I didn't have any money. 597 00:24:17,729 --> 00:24:20,133 And, besides, for all I knew, 598 00:24:20,157 --> 00:24:22,213 it could have been like that for a hundred years. 599 00:24:22,237 --> 00:24:23,296 Mr. Palmer? 600 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,376 Are you prepared to cross-examine? 601 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,370 Should we ask for more time? 602 00:24:27,394 --> 00:24:28,886 No. 603 00:24:28,910 --> 00:24:30,880 Just ask him if he warned anyone else. 604 00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:32,873 Be sure to use the word "warned." 605 00:24:32,897 --> 00:24:36,233 Let's paint him with the same brush he's using on Lily. 606 00:24:39,094 --> 00:24:40,456 Mr. Craven, 607 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,100 you said that you saw... Wh-what did you call it? 608 00:24:43,124 --> 00:24:45,137 The-the bowing in the ceiling 609 00:24:45,161 --> 00:24:46,783 and you warned. 610 00:24:46,807 --> 00:24:47,780 Ms. Knowles. 611 00:24:47,803 --> 00:24:49,124 Yeah. That's correct. 612 00:24:49,148 --> 00:24:51,983 Who else did you warn about it? 613 00:24:52,007 --> 00:24:53,760 Excuse me? 614 00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:55,104 Who else did you warn 615 00:24:55,128 --> 00:24:57,034 about your concerns regarding the ceiling? 616 00:24:58,291 --> 00:25:00,111 No one? 617 00:25:01,195 --> 00:25:04,074 I need you to speak your answer for the record, sir. 618 00:25:04,098 --> 00:25:06,284 No. I just told Lily. 619 00:25:06,307 --> 00:25:07,540 I figured that would be enough. 620 00:25:07,564 --> 00:25:10,617 And why would you think that? 621 00:25:10,641 --> 00:25:12,697 If you thought there was imminent danger there, 622 00:25:12,721 --> 00:25:15,062 why wouldn't you warn everyone you could? 623 00:25:16,101 --> 00:25:17,897 Your other roommates. Give them 624 00:25:17,921 --> 00:25:19,631 the same opportunity you took 625 00:25:19,655 --> 00:25:20,931 to get out of there and find another place 626 00:25:20,955 --> 00:25:21,928 to live. 627 00:25:21,952 --> 00:25:22,534 I don't know. I... 628 00:25:22,558 --> 00:25:23,964 I told Lily. 629 00:25:23,988 --> 00:25:25,567 I-I mean, she was in charge. 630 00:25:25,591 --> 00:25:27,214 Was she? 631 00:25:27,238 --> 00:25:29,858 I thought this was supposed to be an artists' cooperative, 632 00:25:29,881 --> 00:25:31,895 a egalitarian commune, 633 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:34,191 where everyone was all in it together. 634 00:25:34,215 --> 00:25:35,405 Nice. 635 00:25:35,428 --> 00:25:36,748 Now quit while you're ahead. 636 00:25:36,772 --> 00:25:38,395 Objection. Your Honor, 637 00:25:38,419 --> 00:25:40,821 maybe I missed it, but was there a question in there somewhere? 638 00:25:40,845 --> 00:25:42,988 Ask a question, Mr. Palmer. 639 00:25:43,012 --> 00:25:44,158 Tell her you have no more questions, 640 00:25:44,182 --> 00:25:45,371 thank the witness and sit down. 641 00:25:45,395 --> 00:25:46,541 Absolutely, Your Honor. 642 00:25:46,565 --> 00:25:48,578 The truth is, 643 00:25:48,602 --> 00:25:51,221 you thought that there was a problem with the roof, 644 00:25:51,245 --> 00:25:52,522 but you didn't do anything else 645 00:25:52,545 --> 00:25:54,082 about it, did you? 646 00:25:54,106 --> 00:25:55,165 Well... 647 00:25:55,189 --> 00:25:56,985 Except leave. Seems to me 648 00:25:57,009 --> 00:25:58,631 you're at least as culpable 649 00:25:58,655 --> 00:26:00,799 as my client. Maybe even more so. 650 00:26:00,823 --> 00:26:03,095 Objection! Your Honor! 651 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,348 No foundation. Badgering. 652 00:26:05,372 --> 00:26:08,338 Again, I have to ask this question for the second time, 653 00:26:08,362 --> 00:26:10,375 what is the question?! 654 00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:12,109 Counsel is testifying! 655 00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:13,712 Sustained. All sustained. 656 00:26:13,736 --> 00:26:14,926 Mr. Palmer, 657 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:17,352 I will ask you one more time. 658 00:26:17,376 --> 00:26:20,385 Stop making speeches, start asking questions. 659 00:26:20,409 --> 00:26:24,676 Or I will dismiss the witness and hold you in contempt. 660 00:26:24,699 --> 00:26:27,666 I do apologize, Your Honor. 661 00:26:27,689 --> 00:26:31,262 As it happens, I have no further questions for this witness. 662 00:26:32,283 --> 00:26:34,710 Let's take a 15-minute break. 663 00:26:35,793 --> 00:26:37,026 I don't believe for a second 664 00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:39,495 that he found that witness this morning. 665 00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:41,339 Can you prove it? 666 00:26:42,423 --> 00:26:44,306 Then it doesn't matter. 667 00:26:44,330 --> 00:26:45,562 Didn't anyone tell you? 668 00:26:45,586 --> 00:26:49,160 The law is a contact sport, too. 669 00:26:49,184 --> 00:26:51,803 You got tackled. He took you down. 670 00:26:51,827 --> 00:26:53,320 Now get up. 671 00:26:53,344 --> 00:26:55,641 It's your ball. 672 00:27:02,314 --> 00:27:03,287 Your Honor, 673 00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:04,587 with the court's permission, 674 00:27:04,611 --> 00:27:07,706 the defense would like to call Denise Danford. 675 00:27:07,730 --> 00:27:09,917 Scuse me. 676 00:27:09,941 --> 00:27:12,170 Objection, Your Honor. 677 00:27:12,194 --> 00:27:15,376 We have no information regarding this witness. 678 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,193 Her name is nowhere on the witness list. 679 00:27:18,217 --> 00:27:21,140 Clearly, defense counsel is playing fast and loose 680 00:27:21,164 --> 00:27:23,158 with the rules of discovery. 681 00:27:24,674 --> 00:27:26,253 Is this true? 682 00:27:26,277 --> 00:27:29,547 Did you not share this witness’s name with opposing counsel? 683 00:27:29,571 --> 00:27:31,237 Unfortunately, Your Honor, 684 00:27:31,261 --> 00:27:34,574 Mrs. Danford has been very, very difficult to locate. 685 00:27:34,598 --> 00:27:37,174 But the good news is, after looking and looking, 686 00:27:37,198 --> 00:27:39,991 we were able to make contact with her this morning, 687 00:27:40,015 --> 00:27:41,421 shortly before trial. 688 00:27:41,445 --> 00:27:45,148 Or I promise we would have given the opposing counsel 689 00:27:45,171 --> 00:27:46,881 plenty of notice. 690 00:27:46,905 --> 00:27:48,657 I do hope that my esteemed colleague 691 00:27:48,681 --> 00:27:51,994 can find it in his heart to forgive me. 692 00:27:52,018 --> 00:27:54,508 I'm sure he can. 693 00:27:54,532 --> 00:27:56,415 Let's swear in the witness. 694 00:27:56,439 --> 00:27:57,974 And as was the case 695 00:27:57,998 --> 00:28:00,618 when the shoe was on the other foot, Mr. Colón, 696 00:28:00,642 --> 00:28:03,304 if you need extra time to prepare 697 00:28:03,328 --> 00:28:05,297 after direct examination, 698 00:28:05,321 --> 00:28:07,118 we will make an accommodation. 699 00:28:07,141 --> 00:28:09,352 Thank you, Your Honor. 700 00:28:11,345 --> 00:28:12,708 Finn and I 701 00:28:12,732 --> 00:28:14,788 tried to talk every Sunday. 702 00:28:14,812 --> 00:28:16,435 Face Time. 703 00:28:16,459 --> 00:28:18,125 For a while, it seemed like, 704 00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:21,158 every other call, he would mention this girl. 705 00:28:21,182 --> 00:28:23,002 Claire. 706 00:28:24,085 --> 00:28:26,358 And it was obvious from the way he talked about her 707 00:28:26,382 --> 00:28:29,262 that... she was special. 708 00:28:29,286 --> 00:28:32,382 Then 709 00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:35,415 at the end of his first semester junior year, 710 00:28:35,439 --> 00:28:36,932 we were gonna have a conversation 711 00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:40,139 about perhaps applying for another student loan. 712 00:28:40,163 --> 00:28:42,869 And he told me not to worry about it. 713 00:28:42,893 --> 00:28:44,992 That he was leaving school. 714 00:28:45,016 --> 00:28:47,462 That he wanted to try living in New York. 715 00:28:47,486 --> 00:28:49,802 And how did you feel about that? 716 00:28:49,826 --> 00:28:51,603 It scared me. 717 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,723 New York scared me. 718 00:28:57,670 --> 00:28:59,855 The first time I came to New York 719 00:28:59,879 --> 00:29:02,394 was to identify Finn's body. 720 00:29:04,603 --> 00:29:06,770 This is my second time. 721 00:29:08,807 --> 00:29:11,209 And I... 722 00:29:11,233 --> 00:29:13,203 I wasn't sure how he was gonna do it, 723 00:29:13,227 --> 00:29:15,740 how he was going to pay for it. 724 00:29:17,257 --> 00:29:19,789 But he kept telling me not to worry about it. 725 00:29:19,813 --> 00:29:21,956 So I... 726 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:24,321 I tried my best not to. 727 00:29:25,967 --> 00:29:28,500 And I sensed that he was in love. 728 00:29:28,524 --> 00:29:30,666 So... 729 00:29:30,690 --> 00:29:33,767 I knew he wasn't here alone. 730 00:29:34,764 --> 00:29:36,213 Mrs. Danford, 731 00:29:36,237 --> 00:29:38,424 your son died. 732 00:29:38,448 --> 00:29:40,764 But you're not a party to this litigation. 733 00:29:40,787 --> 00:29:43,518 Can you please tell the jury why? 734 00:29:45,165 --> 00:29:47,938 Because I don't think it's that girl's fault. 735 00:29:49,108 --> 00:29:50,557 I'm sorry. I mean, I... 736 00:29:50,581 --> 00:29:52,334 I know we’ve never met, 737 00:29:52,357 --> 00:29:55,670 and I know we both lost our children. 738 00:29:55,694 --> 00:29:57,750 But in my heart of hearts, 739 00:29:57,774 --> 00:30:00,913 I just don't think that girl had anything to do with it. 740 00:30:00,937 --> 00:30:02,258 Objection, Your Honor. 741 00:30:02,282 --> 00:30:05,377 The witness is offering speculation as testimony 742 00:30:05,401 --> 00:30:07,674 and is addressing the plaintiff directly. 743 00:30:07,698 --> 00:30:09,710 Please, Mrs. Danford, 744 00:30:09,734 --> 00:30:11,531 just answer the lawyer's questions 745 00:30:11,554 --> 00:30:13,958 with the facts as you understand them. 746 00:30:13,982 --> 00:30:17,381 And don't address the plaintiff directly. 747 00:30:17,405 --> 00:30:19,548 I apologize. 748 00:30:19,572 --> 00:30:21,628 So, Mrs. Danford, 749 00:30:21,652 --> 00:30:24,922 who do you think is responsible for your son's death? 750 00:30:24,946 --> 00:30:27,651 I'm not sure anyone's responsible. 751 00:30:27,675 --> 00:30:29,885 It seems like it was an accident. 752 00:30:31,186 --> 00:30:32,332 I mean, 753 00:30:32,355 --> 00:30:33,978 if you're gonna hold anyone responsible, 754 00:30:34,002 --> 00:30:34,975 maybe 755 00:30:34,999 --> 00:30:36,992 it's the building inspectors. 756 00:30:38,032 --> 00:30:40,218 But then they said the building was dangerous. 757 00:30:40,242 --> 00:30:43,015 They ordered it locked. It was locked. 758 00:30:44,012 --> 00:30:46,588 So maybe it's the politicians. 759 00:30:46,612 --> 00:30:48,408 What do you mean by "the politicians"? 760 00:30:48,432 --> 00:30:50,575 The government. 761 00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:51,962 The people who are supposed to make sure 762 00:30:51,986 --> 00:30:53,782 this city is a place where everyone can live, 763 00:30:53,806 --> 00:30:55,602 not just rich people. 764 00:30:55,626 --> 00:30:58,505 Your Honor, I have withheld my initial objections 765 00:30:58,529 --> 00:30:59,979 out of respect for Mrs. Danford. 766 00:31:00,003 --> 00:31:02,188 But, clearly, the defense is determined 767 00:31:02,212 --> 00:31:04,528 to go down this road. So I have to ask 768 00:31:04,552 --> 00:31:06,912 how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand. 769 00:31:06,936 --> 00:31:08,429 Objection sustained. 770 00:31:08,452 --> 00:31:09,902 Mr. Palmer, 771 00:31:09,926 --> 00:31:11,116 anything else? 772 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:14,452 So, one last time, Mrs. Danford, 773 00:31:14,476 --> 00:31:16,923 do you think that my client is responsible 774 00:31:16,947 --> 00:31:19,523 for your son's death? 775 00:31:19,546 --> 00:31:21,323 No. 776 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:25,199 In fact, I look at her 777 00:31:25,223 --> 00:31:27,216 and I see my son. 778 00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:30,659 She was in the same boat as the rest of them, 779 00:31:30,683 --> 00:31:33,693 just doing the best she could. 780 00:31:33,717 --> 00:31:36,683 Maybe making some unwise choices, but 781 00:31:36,707 --> 00:31:40,063 she meant no ill will towards anyone. 782 00:31:40,087 --> 00:31:43,399 She was just trying to put a roof over people's heads. 783 00:31:43,423 --> 00:31:45,783 Thank you, Mrs. Danford. 784 00:31:45,807 --> 00:31:47,627 No further questions. 785 00:31:55,167 --> 00:31:57,657 I feel them slipping away. 786 00:32:00,151 --> 00:32:02,207 Is Danny en route? 787 00:32:02,231 --> 00:32:04,980 20 minutes away. 788 00:32:05,004 --> 00:32:06,540 So, 789 00:32:06,564 --> 00:32:09,053 when Reggie Craven pointed out the bowing in the ceiling, 790 00:32:09,077 --> 00:32:11,133 how did you react? 791 00:32:11,157 --> 00:32:12,737 Honestly? 792 00:32:12,761 --> 00:32:15,077 I thought... 793 00:32:15,101 --> 00:32:16,767 "Okay." 794 00:32:16,791 --> 00:32:19,781 And, "What would you like me to do about it?" 795 00:32:20,995 --> 00:32:23,961 I didn't think that it was dangerous, 796 00:32:23,985 --> 00:32:27,384 just kind of... ugly. 797 00:32:27,408 --> 00:32:30,634 And truthfully, the whole place was ugly. 798 00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:32,801 There were water stains everywhere. 799 00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:34,794 The floor was uneven. 800 00:32:34,818 --> 00:32:37,524 And you could feel the wind whip through every night. 801 00:32:37,548 --> 00:32:40,818 I was much more worried that 802 00:32:40,842 --> 00:32:42,508 the neighbors would realize that we were stealing 803 00:32:42,532 --> 00:32:43,721 their electricity, 804 00:32:43,745 --> 00:32:45,888 and the space heaters would turn off. 805 00:32:45,912 --> 00:32:48,011 I was much more worried 806 00:32:48,035 --> 00:32:50,698 that the coffee shop and the hotel down the street 807 00:32:50,722 --> 00:32:52,518 were getting smart to us 808 00:32:52,542 --> 00:32:55,074 and would stop letting us use their bathrooms. 809 00:32:55,098 --> 00:32:57,154 But, I mean 810 00:32:57,178 --> 00:32:59,755 it was free, 811 00:32:59,779 --> 00:33:02,615 and we had space to paint 812 00:33:02,639 --> 00:33:05,258 and sculpt, 813 00:33:05,282 --> 00:33:07,035 and sleep. 814 00:33:07,059 --> 00:33:09,028 Thank you, Miss Knowles. 815 00:33:09,052 --> 00:33:10,785 No further questions. 816 00:33:15,205 --> 00:33:17,175 Good afternoon, Miss Knowles. 817 00:33:17,199 --> 00:33:18,779 Good afternoon. 818 00:33:18,803 --> 00:33:20,426 You know, it never crossed your mind after Reggie Craven 819 00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:24,282 pointed out what was going on above your head that maybe 820 00:33:24,306 --> 00:33:26,732 you know, you should get the hell out of there? 821 00:33:27,773 --> 00:33:29,959 I guess I'm stupid. 822 00:33:29,982 --> 00:33:33,816 No. It never occurred to me. 823 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,935 Maybe because I knew that none of us had anywhere else to go. 824 00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:39,839 Your Honor, with the court's permission, 825 00:33:39,863 --> 00:33:42,179 the plaintiffs would like to enter into evidence 826 00:33:42,203 --> 00:33:43,999 a series of text messages: 827 00:33:44,023 --> 00:33:47,293 Part of a group text between Miss Knowles 828 00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:48,029 and the two victims. 829 00:33:48,053 --> 00:33:49,806 Your Honor, again? 830 00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:51,626 This is trial by ambush! 831 00:33:51,650 --> 00:33:53,490 Now, why is this not a violation 832 00:33:53,514 --> 00:33:55,483 of the rules of discovery, Mr. Colón? 833 00:33:55,507 --> 00:33:59,557 Truthfully, this is all my mistake, Your Honor. 834 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:02,026 It did not dawn on me to ask to see 835 00:34:02,050 --> 00:34:05,450 the late Miss Waters's cell phone until yesterday. 836 00:34:05,474 --> 00:34:07,270 And it's taken from then until now 837 00:34:07,294 --> 00:34:08,613 for my investigator 838 00:34:08,637 --> 00:34:10,433 to unlock her phone and uncover the messages 839 00:34:10,457 --> 00:34:12,427 I'm about to share with you. 840 00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:14,550 I apologize, and I'm happy to go about it 841 00:34:14,574 --> 00:34:16,587 in any way that pleases the court. 842 00:34:16,611 --> 00:34:18,623 But I do think the jury's gonna want to hear 843 00:34:18,647 --> 00:34:20,747 the evidence I'm about to offer. 844 00:34:20,771 --> 00:34:21,917 He's good, isn't he? 845 00:34:21,941 --> 00:34:23,131 And are we supposed 846 00:34:23,154 --> 00:34:24,690 to just take Mr. Colón's word for it 847 00:34:24,714 --> 00:34:26,337 that these texts are genuine? 848 00:34:26,361 --> 00:34:28,980 As I mentioned a moment ago, this is a three-way conversation 849 00:34:29,004 --> 00:34:31,537 between Claire, her boyfriend Finn, 850 00:34:31,561 --> 00:34:32,794 and Miss Knowles. 851 00:34:32,818 --> 00:34:35,177 All counsel has to do is reach out 852 00:34:35,201 --> 00:34:37,344 to his client and ask to see her cell phone. 853 00:34:37,368 --> 00:34:40,421 Although I fully intend on asking her in a minute if she remembers 854 00:34:40,445 --> 00:34:43,280 sending and receiving those messages. 855 00:34:43,304 --> 00:34:46,141 Since I don't know where you're going, Counsel, 856 00:34:46,165 --> 00:34:50,084 and since Miss Knowles is scheduled as our final witness, 857 00:34:50,108 --> 00:34:53,334 I feel I have no real choice but to let you proceed. 858 00:34:53,358 --> 00:34:55,154 But, Mr. Colón, 859 00:34:55,178 --> 00:34:56,801 be forewarned, 860 00:34:56,825 --> 00:35:00,657 if you stray outside the lines of legal propriety, 861 00:35:00,681 --> 00:35:04,817 I will cite you so fast it will make your head spin. 862 00:35:04,841 --> 00:35:07,072 Understood, Your Honor. Thank you. 863 00:35:07,095 --> 00:35:08,588 Now, Miss Knowles 864 00:35:08,612 --> 00:35:14,091 this here is a text message you sent 865 00:35:14,115 --> 00:35:16,128 to Claire Waters and Finn Danford 866 00:35:16,152 --> 00:35:17,949 before they moved into the warehouse. 867 00:35:17,972 --> 00:35:19,248 Now, would you please read it 868 00:35:19,272 --> 00:35:21,761 to the court? 869 00:35:21,785 --> 00:35:23,495 "Hey, Claire and Finn. 870 00:35:23,518 --> 00:35:28,218 "I've decided I'm moving my bed to a different part of the loft. 871 00:35:28,242 --> 00:35:30,842 "I want you to sleep where I've been. 872 00:35:32,142 --> 00:35:33,938 "It's far away from everyone else, 873 00:35:33,962 --> 00:35:37,059 and it will give the two of you some privacy." 874 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:38,922 You remember sending that? 875 00:35:38,946 --> 00:35:40,569 Yeah. I do. 876 00:35:40,593 --> 00:35:42,952 Let me try to understand this. 877 00:35:42,976 --> 00:35:47,199 You'd been sleeping underneath the bulge in the ceiling, 878 00:35:47,223 --> 00:35:49,799 but after Reggie Craven warned you about it, 879 00:35:49,823 --> 00:35:52,658 you moved your bed and offered that spot 880 00:35:52,682 --> 00:35:54,609 to my client's daughter and her boyfriend. 881 00:35:54,633 --> 00:35:56,039 That's true, but... 882 00:35:56,063 --> 00:35:57,469 But what? 883 00:35:57,493 --> 00:35:59,679 You discovered your life was in danger, 884 00:35:59,703 --> 00:36:01,109 and you protected yourself 885 00:36:01,133 --> 00:36:02,886 at the expense of two other people. 886 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,092 Objection. Counsel is badgering the witness. 887 00:36:06,116 --> 00:36:07,436 Overruled. 888 00:36:07,459 --> 00:36:09,646 The witness shall answer. That is what happened, 889 00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:10,970 isn't it? 890 00:36:12,010 --> 00:36:13,589 I made the move 891 00:36:13,613 --> 00:36:15,063 because they were a couple. 892 00:36:15,086 --> 00:36:17,316 And it was the sleeping space that was the furthest 893 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:18,876 from everybody else. 894 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,216 It was as simple as that. 895 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:24,033 I didn't know that there was gonna be 896 00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:25,289 a torrential rainstorm. 897 00:36:25,313 --> 00:36:27,803 I didn't know that the roof was gonna cave in. 898 00:36:27,827 --> 00:36:30,643 I was just trying to be nice. 899 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:35,170 Maybe you did and maybe you didn't. 900 00:36:35,194 --> 00:36:38,290 But that is for the jury to decide. 901 00:36:38,314 --> 00:36:40,567 Nothing further, Your Honor. 902 00:36:47,067 --> 00:36:49,340 Benny owned that courtroom. 903 00:36:49,364 --> 00:36:51,334 He's been at it a long time. 904 00:36:51,358 --> 00:36:53,414 All the theatrics, the timing, 905 00:36:53,438 --> 00:36:55,407 the "we just found this witness," 906 00:36:55,431 --> 00:36:57,704 "we just found this evidence." 907 00:36:57,728 --> 00:36:59,957 He made that what the trial was about. 908 00:37:01,454 --> 00:37:03,467 The job is to win. 909 00:37:03,491 --> 00:37:05,461 Yeah, well... 910 00:37:05,485 --> 00:37:07,887 It just doesn't seem right. 911 00:37:07,911 --> 00:37:09,751 How do you mean? 912 00:37:09,775 --> 00:37:12,871 If Evelyn loses, if his client loses, 913 00:37:12,894 --> 00:37:15,081 practically nothing changes in her life. 914 00:37:15,105 --> 00:37:17,854 She gets to go home to the same 800-thread-count sheet 915 00:37:17,878 --> 00:37:20,888 she's been sleeping in for the past two decades. 916 00:37:20,912 --> 00:37:24,138 But if Lily loses, if our client loses, 917 00:37:24,162 --> 00:37:26,608 everything changes. 918 00:37:26,632 --> 00:37:28,818 She's staring at a mountain of debt, 919 00:37:28,842 --> 00:37:30,811 possibly a decade in prison, 920 00:37:30,835 --> 00:37:33,912 and I will have profoundly failed her. 921 00:37:36,945 --> 00:37:39,936 Welcome to a life in the law, Counselor. 922 00:37:47,563 --> 00:37:48,535 Yes? 923 00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:50,076 Any word? 924 00:37:51,115 --> 00:37:52,825 Ask the lawyer. 925 00:37:52,849 --> 00:37:55,275 Nope. Not a peep. 926 00:37:56,316 --> 00:37:57,895 Three days. 927 00:37:57,919 --> 00:38:01,449 What the heck could the jury be talking about for three days? 928 00:38:01,472 --> 00:38:02,878 I'm concerned they're debating 929 00:38:02,902 --> 00:38:05,479 how much pain to inflict on Lily. 930 00:38:05,503 --> 00:38:07,082 As in how many dollars? 931 00:38:07,106 --> 00:38:09,118 As in how many millions. 932 00:38:09,142 --> 00:38:11,546 Hard to deny a mother who's lost her only child. 933 00:38:11,570 --> 00:38:14,925 Wow. You're a big up. Positively inspirational. 934 00:38:14,949 --> 00:38:16,572 You know what they say. 935 00:38:16,596 --> 00:38:19,216 "Expect the worst and you'll never be disappointed." 936 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:22,162 You allow this kind of behavior in your office? 937 00:38:22,186 --> 00:38:24,892 I've been trying to talk sense into him all morning. 938 00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:26,929 Look, we picked a good jury. 939 00:38:26,953 --> 00:38:29,400 Foreperson looked like she was siding with us. 940 00:38:29,424 --> 00:38:32,042 Judge instructed them to stick to the facts and the evidence. 941 00:38:32,066 --> 00:38:34,970 Call me crazy, but I prefer to keep a good thought. 942 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,932 It's easy to find someone not guilty. 943 00:38:38,956 --> 00:38:40,970 It's hard to find someone culpable, 944 00:38:40,994 --> 00:38:43,310 particularly when there are deaths involved. 945 00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:45,260 You know, many people take no pleasure 946 00:38:45,284 --> 00:38:46,950 in ruining someone else's life. 947 00:38:46,974 --> 00:38:48,120 That's why it takes juries 948 00:38:48,144 --> 00:38:50,979 a while to do it. 949 00:38:51,003 --> 00:38:53,103 So you're pretty convinced they’re gonna find Lily liable? 950 00:38:53,127 --> 00:38:55,443 I can't imagine what else they'd be talking about 951 00:38:55,467 --> 00:38:56,786 this whole time. 952 00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:57,956 Wonder what Bull thinks. 953 00:38:57,980 --> 00:38:59,733 Why don't you ask him? 954 00:38:59,757 --> 00:39:01,119 Jury's behind closed doors. 955 00:39:01,143 --> 00:39:03,547 Both sides of the case have rested. 956 00:39:03,571 --> 00:39:05,670 We're allowed to talk to each other now. 957 00:39:05,694 --> 00:39:08,313 Well, I know. I just... I think we both just felt like 958 00:39:08,337 --> 00:39:09,960 the time to compare notes is 959 00:39:09,984 --> 00:39:13,037 after it's all over, after there's a verdict. 960 00:39:13,061 --> 00:39:14,944 You spoken to Bull? 961 00:39:14,968 --> 00:39:16,331 Not yet. 962 00:39:16,355 --> 00:39:18,844 I may walk upstairs in a little while. 963 00:39:20,471 --> 00:39:22,204 Ooh. Best laid plans... 964 00:39:25,671 --> 00:39:26,904 Jury's back. 965 00:39:28,488 --> 00:39:30,371 Madam Foreperson, 966 00:39:30,395 --> 00:39:32,364 has the jury reached a verdict? 967 00:39:32,388 --> 00:39:33,794 We have. 968 00:39:33,818 --> 00:39:35,095 How do you find? 969 00:39:35,118 --> 00:39:37,477 Your Honor, we wanted to avoid a deadlock, 970 00:39:37,501 --> 00:39:39,168 so we reached a compromise agreement. 971 00:39:39,192 --> 00:39:42,851 We feel for both sides in this case, and, 972 00:39:42,875 --> 00:39:44,151 so both sides won a little, 973 00:39:44,175 --> 00:39:46,145 and both sides lost a little, and... 974 00:39:46,169 --> 00:39:48,441 Just render your verdict, please. 975 00:39:48,465 --> 00:39:51,864 We find the defendant, Lily Knowles, 976 00:39:51,888 --> 00:39:54,791 liable for the death of Claire Waters. 977 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,615 And we assess the following financial damages, 978 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:03,911 payable to Evelyn Waters, 979 00:40:03,935 --> 00:40:06,685 in the amount of one dollar. 980 00:40:13,686 --> 00:40:15,073 This is good. 981 00:40:21,789 --> 00:40:24,841 Ladies and gentlemen, the jury has spoken. 982 00:40:24,865 --> 00:40:26,685 Loud and clear. 983 00:40:27,726 --> 00:40:29,546 And we are adjourned. 984 00:40:40,987 --> 00:40:42,999 A.D.A. Kiehl. 985 00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:44,775 You found me. I've been 986 00:40:44,799 --> 00:40:46,076 in court all day. 987 00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:48,502 My boss just gave me a message from my sister 988 00:40:48,526 --> 00:40:50,020 that you were looking for me. 989 00:40:50,043 --> 00:40:52,533 I called your office, and they said 990 00:40:52,557 --> 00:40:54,656 you were here. I literally 991 00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:56,953 just got the verdict and ran right over here. 992 00:40:56,976 --> 00:40:59,292 Is this the roof-collapsing thing? 993 00:40:59,316 --> 00:41:00,593 The one where your firm is representing 994 00:41:00,617 --> 00:41:01,676 both sides of the case? 995 00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:03,366 Yeah, that's the one. 996 00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:04,926 Your side win? 997 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:06,269 We did. 998 00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:08,653 Jury found for the plaintiff. 999 00:41:08,677 --> 00:41:09,780 Congratulations. 1000 00:41:09,804 --> 00:41:10,820 Yeah. 1001 00:41:10,844 --> 00:41:13,593 Awarded her a whole dollar. 1002 00:41:13,617 --> 00:41:14,937 You working contingency? 1003 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,796 No, God, no. 1004 00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:19,876 The other side was pro Bono, 1005 00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,910 so who knows how we'll make out at the end. 1006 00:41:22,934 --> 00:41:24,470 That sounds pretty nutty. 1007 00:41:24,494 --> 00:41:25,857 Yeah. 1008 00:41:25,881 --> 00:41:27,027 No. 1009 00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:28,587 It was kind of fun, actually. 1010 00:41:28,611 --> 00:41:30,840 It was the first time in a while l've flown solo, 1011 00:41:30,864 --> 00:41:34,654 no Dr. Bull flying the plane, just me, you know? 1012 00:41:34,677 --> 00:41:36,387 I kind of dug it. 1013 00:41:37,798 --> 00:41:40,590 But that can't be why you wanted to see me. 1014 00:41:42,131 --> 00:41:45,097 Right. So, I know we just had an election this year, 1015 00:41:45,121 --> 00:41:46,483 so this is gonna sound 1016 00:41:46,507 --> 00:41:48,651 a little bit strange, but, um, tomorrow morning 1017 00:41:48,675 --> 00:41:50,991 you're gonna read that my boss, our current D.A., 1018 00:41:51,015 --> 00:41:54,284 is up to his ears in a campaign finance scandal. 1019 00:41:54,308 --> 00:41:56,537 It turns out he is 1020 00:41:56,561 --> 00:41:58,184 the definition of dirty. 1021 00:41:58,208 --> 00:42:01,632 And so that means there's gonna be another election in April. 1022 00:42:02,715 --> 00:42:04,294 My God, I'm sorry, man. 1023 00:42:04,318 --> 00:42:06,548 Yeah, which, brings me to the other thing. 1024 00:42:06,572 --> 00:42:08,324 Benny 1025 00:42:08,348 --> 00:42:11,185 would you ever consider running to be the district attorney 1026 00:42:11,209 --> 00:42:13,265 for the City of New York?