1 00:00:02,336 --> 00:00:04,366 (horns honking) 2 00:00:10,844 --> 00:00:13,054 (phone buzzes, rings) 3 00:00:35,703 --> 00:00:38,173 BENNY: If something edible isn't put in front of me 4 00:00:38,206 --> 00:00:39,836 in the next three minutes, I am not responsible 5 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:40,843 for what I might do. 6 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:43,114 Don't anybody shoot Benny with a tranq gun. 7 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:45,354 I just buzzed 'em in. Food's on its way up. 8 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:46,549 Ugh, food! 9 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:49,380 * Glorious food 10 00:00:49,417 --> 00:00:52,087 * Hot sausage and mustard * 11 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,220 * Food, glorious food 12 00:00:54,255 --> 00:00:58,555 * Something, something, and cus... tard. * 13 00:01:02,430 --> 00:01:04,670 Hey. 14 00:01:04,698 --> 00:01:05,868 Hey. 15 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:06,729 DANNY: Oh, hey, Simon. 16 00:01:06,767 --> 00:01:08,767 You finally come back to say good-bye? 17 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:10,842 Hey, Simple Simon, 18 00:01:10,871 --> 00:01:13,141 stop ogling over the help and bring me over my grub. 19 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:15,314 (chuckles) 20 00:01:15,343 --> 00:01:17,613 How have you been, Simon? 21 00:01:17,645 --> 00:01:18,875 Uh, good. You know? 22 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:20,282 Just workin'. 23 00:01:20,314 --> 00:01:23,224 Uh, I'm in a bit of a hurry, actually, 24 00:01:23,251 --> 00:01:25,421 so... 25 00:01:25,453 --> 00:01:27,593 I'll walk you out. 26 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:30,121 Quite a career path he's on. 27 00:01:30,158 --> 00:01:33,788 From trial science technician to bike messenger. 28 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:35,827 (sighs) 29 00:01:38,232 --> 00:01:40,872 (sighs) Well, that was weird. 30 00:01:40,901 --> 00:01:42,871 You know what's weird? 31 00:01:42,903 --> 00:01:45,273 A guy working somewhere for four months 32 00:01:45,306 --> 00:01:47,536 and then suddenly just not showing up. 33 00:01:47,575 --> 00:01:49,335 You know what else is weird? 34 00:01:49,377 --> 00:01:51,677 Uh, somebody dating somebody 35 00:01:51,712 --> 00:01:55,282 and then, all of a sudden, they're gone. 36 00:01:55,316 --> 00:01:56,416 They've moved. 37 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:57,590 Changed their number. 38 00:01:57,618 --> 00:01:58,718 Don't show up for work. 39 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,252 E-mails bounce back. 40 00:02:00,288 --> 00:02:02,358 I'm sorry. 41 00:02:02,390 --> 00:02:04,860 I hope you weren't worried. 42 00:02:04,892 --> 00:02:05,932 Following people online 43 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:07,599 when they don't want to be followed, 44 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:09,358 that's what I do. 45 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:15,566 Three and a half weeks is kind of a long time 46 00:02:15,603 --> 00:02:17,643 to not text somebody that you care about. 47 00:02:17,671 --> 00:02:19,171 (elevator bell chimes) 48 00:02:19,207 --> 00:02:21,207 (doors open) 49 00:02:22,210 --> 00:02:24,250 I know I-I owe you an explanation, 50 00:02:24,278 --> 00:02:28,178 but... I'm trying to get this $30 bonus and, uh... 51 00:02:28,216 --> 00:02:29,646 $30. 52 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:32,923 Cool. Well, don't let me waste another second of your time. 53 00:02:32,953 --> 00:02:34,923 You can just have a nice life, Simon. 54 00:02:34,955 --> 00:02:39,185 By the way, you look like hell. 55 00:02:39,227 --> 00:02:41,457 Your eyes are bloodshot, and your hands are shaking. 56 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:45,265 Whatever you're doing, really... 57 00:02:45,299 --> 00:02:47,639 keep it up. (elevator bell chimes) 58 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:49,438 I'm sorry, Cable. 59 00:02:50,438 --> 00:02:53,338 * 60 00:03:01,415 --> 00:03:03,415 (distant siren wailing) 61 00:03:04,918 --> 00:03:09,718 * Baby, then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do * 62 00:03:09,757 --> 00:03:11,427 (excited chattering) 63 00:03:11,459 --> 00:03:12,989 * We could be married 64 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:15,526 * We could be married * 65 00:03:15,563 --> 00:03:17,373 * Then we'd be happy 66 00:03:17,398 --> 00:03:19,528 * Then we'd be happy * 67 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:22,237 (gasping) Happy birthday. 68 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:24,370 (excited chattering) 69 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:26,565 (phone buzzes, ringing) 70 00:03:32,446 --> 00:03:37,286 * You know, it seems the more we talk about it * 71 00:03:37,318 --> 00:03:42,688 * It only makes it worse to live without it * 72 00:03:42,723 --> 00:03:48,503 * But let's talk about it 73 00:03:48,529 --> 00:03:52,299 * Wouldn't it be nice? * Ooh, ooh, ooh 74 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:53,633 * Run, run, ooh 75 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:56,467 * Bah, bah-bah-bah, bah-bah-bah * 76 00:03:56,504 --> 00:03:58,314 * Bah, bah, bah 77 00:03:58,339 --> 00:04:00,969 * Good night, my baby (woman screaming) 78 00:04:01,008 --> 00:04:05,548 * Sleep tight, my baby 79 00:04:05,579 --> 00:04:08,419 * Good night, my baby 80 00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:10,849 * Sleep tight... (siren wailing) 81 00:04:10,884 --> 00:04:12,894 (elevator bell chimes) 82 00:04:16,557 --> 00:04:17,857 MARISSA: $10,000 83 00:04:17,891 --> 00:04:19,791 for Hamilton tickets, day of, 84 00:04:19,827 --> 00:04:21,927 fourth row center, from a scalper. 85 00:04:21,962 --> 00:04:24,602 It's an absolutely justifiable business expense. 86 00:04:24,632 --> 00:04:26,332 I had to pay off the court clerk. 87 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:29,397 Bull, I seriously doubt the IRS will agree 88 00:04:29,437 --> 00:04:31,067 that illegal bribes are deductible. 89 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:34,744 Marissa, if I don't have a list of the 75 potential jurors 90 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:36,675 that make up the jury pool at least a couple days 91 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:38,080 before I walk into that courtroom, 92 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:40,351 then all of those people on the other side of that door 93 00:04:40,381 --> 00:04:42,351 can't research them and help me figure out 94 00:04:42,383 --> 00:04:43,453 if I want them or not. 95 00:04:43,484 --> 00:04:45,524 And since jury lists are not supposed to be shared 96 00:04:45,553 --> 00:04:46,823 with either side, Exactly. 97 00:04:46,854 --> 00:04:47,824 the only way that I can do 98 00:04:47,855 --> 00:04:49,355 my job is to have that list. 99 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:51,360 Otherwise, I'm just guessing. 100 00:04:51,392 --> 00:04:53,392 And any fool can guess. (knocking) 101 00:04:53,427 --> 00:04:55,027 Come in! Bad time? 102 00:04:55,062 --> 00:04:57,632 No. No, no. Perfect time. 103 00:04:57,665 --> 00:04:59,495 How was the memorial service? 104 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:01,903 CABLE: Uh, I-I don't know. 105 00:05:01,935 --> 00:05:03,965 I don't have anything to compare it to. 106 00:05:04,004 --> 00:05:05,814 I've never had a friend die before. 107 00:05:07,375 --> 00:05:10,475 Is there any way I could talk to you alone? 108 00:05:10,511 --> 00:05:11,481 CABLE: I know you didn't know Simon very well. 109 00:05:11,512 --> 00:05:13,482 (sighs) Cable, 110 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:15,624 a lot of assistants come through here. 111 00:05:17,651 --> 00:05:19,921 It's no excuse. You know, the only reason 112 00:05:19,953 --> 00:05:22,393 he left here is because he couldn't do nine-to-five. 113 00:05:22,423 --> 00:05:25,833 Everything had to be his choice, all the time. 114 00:05:25,859 --> 00:05:27,499 When to wake up, what to do. 115 00:05:27,528 --> 00:05:29,698 Anyway, I'm sure somebody told you, 116 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:31,500 but he started working as a bike messenger. 117 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:33,032 It was kind of invented for him, 118 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:35,566 because he could just text when he felt like working. 119 00:05:35,603 --> 00:05:38,573 And the other thing he started to do, actually, 120 00:05:38,606 --> 00:05:40,906 about a year ago, while he was working here, 121 00:05:40,941 --> 00:05:44,511 was working as a guinea pig for pharmaceutical companies, 122 00:05:44,545 --> 00:05:46,375 testing new drugs. 123 00:05:46,414 --> 00:05:47,584 They pay a lot of money. 124 00:05:47,615 --> 00:05:49,045 And all he had to do was remember 125 00:05:49,082 --> 00:05:50,582 to take one or two pills a day. 126 00:05:50,618 --> 00:05:52,518 I know you really cared for him... 127 00:05:52,553 --> 00:05:54,123 I was talking to some of his friends. 128 00:05:54,154 --> 00:05:56,724 It turns out he was doing a trial for this company 129 00:05:56,757 --> 00:05:58,457 called Dep Pharmaceutical, 130 00:05:58,492 --> 00:06:00,762 testing this new kind of antidepressant called Eutaline. 131 00:06:00,794 --> 00:06:05,104 The people that know Simon, 132 00:06:05,132 --> 00:06:08,502 they say it was the drug that caused Simon to kill himself. 133 00:06:08,536 --> 00:06:11,096 Cable, when people are grieving... They say 134 00:06:11,138 --> 00:06:12,838 he completely changed on it. Even so, 135 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:14,583 it doesn't mean it made him suicidal. That man 136 00:06:14,608 --> 00:06:18,408 loved life. He didn't drink, he didn't smoke, he loved the gym. 137 00:06:18,446 --> 00:06:20,676 But he took pills for money. 138 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:23,424 Look, his parents want to sue. 139 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:26,717 And I told them I'd help. 140 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:31,525 And I told them I'd ask you if you'd help. 141 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:34,863 They want money? 142 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,055 They want answers. 143 00:06:36,096 --> 00:06:39,696 And they want to make sure this drug never gets to market. 144 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:43,071 And, yes, I'm sure they want money, too. 145 00:06:43,103 --> 00:06:45,673 Hmm. 146 00:06:45,706 --> 00:06:47,936 Let me call Dep Pharmaceutical, 147 00:06:47,975 --> 00:06:50,935 see if I can't put a meeting on the books for Benny and me. 148 00:06:50,978 --> 00:06:52,948 BENNY: Nice of you to do this. 149 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:54,820 Represent someone I don't remember 150 00:06:54,848 --> 00:06:56,748 on a matter I know almost nothing about 151 00:06:56,784 --> 00:06:59,594 to make his parents, whom I've never met, feel better? 152 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:01,690 Yeah, I'm a peach. (chuckles) 153 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:07,157 (heels clicking) I sense our meeting is about to begin. 154 00:07:07,194 --> 00:07:08,604 (door opens) 155 00:07:09,630 --> 00:07:13,130 Dr. Bull, you have no idea 156 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:15,466 what a treat it is for me to meet you. 157 00:07:15,503 --> 00:07:18,173 And Benjamin Colón, former ADA. 158 00:07:18,205 --> 00:07:21,635 for New York County and in-house counsel for TAC. 159 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:23,575 My name is Arti Cander. 160 00:07:23,611 --> 00:07:25,151 Please, have a seat. 161 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,580 So you know why we're here? 162 00:07:29,617 --> 00:07:31,247 Absolutely. 163 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,594 Our cofounder and CEO, Tessa Snyder, 164 00:07:33,621 --> 00:07:35,661 is beside herself about this. 165 00:07:35,689 --> 00:07:37,929 You know, any time anyone who is part 166 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:39,058 of the Dep family passes, 167 00:07:39,092 --> 00:07:41,802 no matter how minor their role in the company might be, 168 00:07:41,829 --> 00:07:43,259 it-it saddens all of us. 169 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:45,526 You do understand we believe there's a relationship 170 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:47,066 between Mr. Jones' death 171 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:50,070 and the antidepressant he was testing for Dep. 172 00:07:50,103 --> 00:07:52,543 Really? I was, uh, under the impression 173 00:07:52,573 --> 00:07:54,543 that he fell off a roof. BENNY: Mm. 174 00:07:54,575 --> 00:07:56,475 Jumped. 175 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:59,650 Well, this is the first I've heard 176 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,120 of any suicidal ideation in relationship to this drug. 177 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:05,190 Um, have you gentlemen... 178 00:08:05,218 --> 00:08:07,558 have you gentlemen done your homework? 179 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:10,188 You know, if this side effect was even on our radar, 180 00:08:10,223 --> 00:08:11,793 we wouldn't be doing human trials. 181 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:13,985 Um, FDA would simply not hear of it. 182 00:08:14,027 --> 00:08:17,257 Now, what can I do for you? 183 00:08:17,297 --> 00:08:19,167 You can shoot off a flare 184 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,569 and let everybody at the... 185 00:08:21,602 --> 00:08:22,942 Dep family 186 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:25,540 know that we're not gonna take you at your word 187 00:08:25,573 --> 00:08:27,613 that the new happy pill you're getting ready to inflict 188 00:08:27,641 --> 00:08:29,881 on the general public doesn't, in fact, 189 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:33,650 make people want to shut off the lights and call it a day. 190 00:08:33,681 --> 00:08:35,581 If you're looking for a settlement... 191 00:08:35,616 --> 00:08:37,116 Oh, no. Thank you, Ms. Cander. 192 00:08:37,150 --> 00:08:38,220 Quite the name, by the way. 193 00:08:38,251 --> 00:08:40,791 Nothing like a little irony on your driver's license 194 00:08:40,821 --> 00:08:42,661 to keep your mood in check. 195 00:08:42,690 --> 00:08:44,660 Says the man named Bull. 196 00:08:44,692 --> 00:08:46,192 Mm. Let me save you some time, 197 00:08:46,226 --> 00:08:49,556 Arti, Simon's family is not gonna settle, 198 00:08:49,597 --> 00:08:50,697 and there's no amount of money 199 00:08:50,731 --> 00:08:52,571 that's gonna convince them otherwise. 200 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,700 Oh, my. 201 00:08:54,735 --> 00:08:57,095 The famous Dr. Jason Bull, 202 00:08:57,137 --> 00:09:00,307 expert reader of human behavior, just misread me. 203 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:02,710 We have no interest in settling. 204 00:09:02,743 --> 00:09:04,583 None. 205 00:09:04,612 --> 00:09:05,782 We're very happy to prove in a court of law 206 00:09:05,813 --> 00:09:08,153 that this drug is perfectly safe. 207 00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:09,151 It may not be safe. 208 00:09:09,182 --> 00:09:10,882 A man died while taking it. Ah. 209 00:09:10,918 --> 00:09:12,788 So you say. 210 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:14,660 Then court it shall be. 211 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:17,058 Excellent. 212 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:19,790 I assume you're general counsel for Dep Pharmaceutical. 213 00:09:19,827 --> 00:09:21,727 Can I trouble you for a card? 214 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:23,862 I'm sorry to disappoint you, Dr. Bull, 215 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:26,227 but I'm not general counsel for Dep. 216 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:27,896 Then to whom have I been speaking? 217 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:29,665 I work for Tessa Snyder. 218 00:09:29,703 --> 00:09:31,873 I'm her you. 219 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:33,865 (chuckles) Excuse me? 220 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:35,607 I'm a trial scientist, Dr. Bull. 221 00:09:35,643 --> 00:09:37,783 And I very much look forward to seeing you in court. 222 00:09:37,811 --> 00:09:40,811 Please, feel free to let yourselves out. 223 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:48,219 * 224 00:09:55,729 --> 00:09:57,729 * 225 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,170 (Bull sighs) 226 00:10:05,973 --> 00:10:07,943 (door opens) BENNY: Hey. 227 00:10:07,975 --> 00:10:10,335 You gonna be joining us? 228 00:10:10,377 --> 00:10:12,347 No. Go ahead without me. 229 00:10:12,379 --> 00:10:13,549 BENNY: The big news is 230 00:10:13,580 --> 00:10:18,750 Dep Pharmaceutical is downright anxious to go to court. 231 00:10:18,786 --> 00:10:21,346 Which leads me to believe that they have rock solid 232 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:23,358 information on Simon 233 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:26,290 that they believe clears them of any culpability. 234 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,226 Cable? 235 00:10:28,261 --> 00:10:30,031 I'm digging, but, honestly, 236 00:10:30,063 --> 00:10:32,203 I don't think there's any "there" there. 237 00:10:32,232 --> 00:10:34,402 I knew Simon. We all did. 238 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:36,674 Wh-What about the company itself? 239 00:10:36,704 --> 00:10:39,144 This is Tessa Snyder, 240 00:10:39,172 --> 00:10:40,272 the company CEO. 241 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,207 A competitor once described her as "a burning hot pepper 242 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:44,883 disguised as an ice cream sundae." 243 00:10:44,912 --> 00:10:47,882 Wow. Can't wait to meet her. 244 00:10:47,915 --> 00:10:50,315 Danny? Well, I'm trying to get a list 245 00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:51,850 of the other participants in the study. 246 00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:54,085 And, believe it or not, I may have a lead. 247 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:55,421 Okay. (clicks tongue) 248 00:10:55,455 --> 00:10:58,355 Well, I guess we'll wait to hear from the big guy 249 00:10:58,391 --> 00:10:59,831 about voir dire. 250 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:01,390 What's he doing in there? 251 00:11:01,428 --> 00:11:02,458 It's not what. 252 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:04,325 It's who. 253 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:09,300 BULL: Wait a second! Isn't that London's 254 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:10,366 Arti Cander? 255 00:11:10,403 --> 00:11:12,013 Is there nothing she can't do? 256 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:14,269 Graduated with honors from Oxford, then moved to D.C. 257 00:11:14,307 --> 00:11:16,437 to became a lobbyist in the candy industry. 258 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:17,876 Tough job. No one likes candy. 259 00:11:17,911 --> 00:11:19,881 And then decided to start all over again 260 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:21,313 and enter the trial science business. 261 00:11:21,348 --> 00:11:24,278 Mm. Someone figured out how to Google. 262 00:11:24,317 --> 00:11:25,917 You left out the part 263 00:11:25,953 --> 00:11:27,393 where I spent three years at Georgetown 264 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:29,090 studying law and human behavior. 265 00:11:29,122 --> 00:11:30,262 Oh, and you. 266 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:32,490 I forgot to mention this the other day, but 267 00:11:32,525 --> 00:11:34,325 I firmly do believe that you are one 268 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:36,431 of the two best at what you do. 269 00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:37,363 Wait. Is this the part where 270 00:11:37,397 --> 00:11:39,397 I'm supposed to say, "But who's the other?" 271 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:41,802 Oh, you don't have to say it... just as long as you think it. 272 00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:44,906 So is it true you don't use mirror jurors? 273 00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:46,338 Yeah, I've never really seen the point. 274 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:47,413 It's an extrapolation once removed. 275 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Then how do you know what the jurors are thinking? 276 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:52,280 I read them... all by myself. 277 00:11:52,312 --> 00:11:53,512 You should try it sometime. 278 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,416 Oh, I wouldn't know where to begin. 279 00:11:55,448 --> 00:11:58,448 Perhaps after I've had the opportunity to study you. 280 00:11:58,485 --> 00:12:02,155 Sorry. We're not taking any new students at the moment. 281 00:12:02,189 --> 00:12:03,889 I'll see you in court, Dr. Bull. 282 00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:08,403 (low conversations) 283 00:12:08,428 --> 00:12:10,498 BENNY: There he is. 284 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:14,430 Dr. Jason Bull, this is Mr. and Mrs. Jones, Simon's parents. 285 00:12:14,467 --> 00:12:16,397 Thank you for doing this, Dr. Bull. 286 00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:19,166 Well, we haven't done anything yet, but you're very welcome. 287 00:12:19,206 --> 00:12:21,776 Do you mind if I steal Mr. Colón for a moment? 288 00:12:21,809 --> 00:12:23,809 Excuse me. 289 00:12:27,214 --> 00:12:31,184 I am totally in the dark about our approach to voir dire. 290 00:12:31,218 --> 00:12:32,848 MARISSA (over earbud): That would make two of us, Bull. 291 00:12:32,886 --> 00:12:34,316 Is it as simple as finding people 292 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:36,824 who feel anger towards the pharmaceutical companies? 293 00:12:36,857 --> 00:12:38,327 'Cause there are plenty of those. 294 00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:39,828 I wish. No. 295 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:41,800 Just because people are mad at a company 296 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:43,529 or even an entire industry doesn't mean 297 00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:44,433 they're gonna side with us. 298 00:12:44,464 --> 00:12:48,144 Shared experience does not equal empathy. 299 00:12:48,168 --> 00:12:50,838 In fact, a lot of times, it's just the opposite. 300 00:12:50,871 --> 00:12:52,941 It's called the empathy gap. 301 00:12:52,973 --> 00:12:56,213 I worry that they are gonna see Simon as someone 302 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:59,453 who willingly signed up for a risky job in an industry 303 00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:01,379 famous for its greed and arrogance, 304 00:13:01,414 --> 00:13:03,354 and should have known better. 305 00:13:03,383 --> 00:13:05,353 Mm-hmm. So, what are we looking for? 306 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:07,315 Perversely, I am thinking 307 00:13:07,354 --> 00:13:11,294 of going after jurors who trust powerful corporations. 308 00:13:11,324 --> 00:13:12,634 Now I'm confused. 309 00:13:12,659 --> 00:13:14,259 I would've thought that's exactly who we don't want. 310 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,234 BULL: Think about it. 311 00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:17,972 Who better to understand what happened to Simon 312 00:13:17,998 --> 00:13:21,228 than someone who takes big companies at their word. 313 00:13:21,268 --> 00:13:23,438 We'll tell them a story about a young man 314 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:26,040 who trusted the people he worked for, 315 00:13:26,073 --> 00:13:28,583 never questioning their intentions 316 00:13:28,608 --> 00:13:31,478 or their honesty till it was too late. 317 00:13:31,511 --> 00:13:35,451 And hopefully, we'll shock 'em into siding with us. 318 00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:38,052 Mm. Well, 319 00:13:38,085 --> 00:13:41,045 at the very least, she'll never see it coming. 320 00:13:41,088 --> 00:13:43,058 MARISSA: Eddie Dunn, 33 years old. 321 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:44,960 He is a toy wholesaler, so, 322 00:13:44,992 --> 00:13:48,002 he depends on big manufacturers for his livelihood. 323 00:13:48,028 --> 00:13:50,298 He is the poster boy for the kind of juror they think 324 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:52,230 they want and think we don't. 325 00:13:52,265 --> 00:13:53,595 Excellent. This should be fun. 326 00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:55,243 ATTORNEY: Say you buy a product-- 327 00:13:55,268 --> 00:13:57,468 sandwich bags-- you get them home, 328 00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,614 but none of the zippers work. 329 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,609 What do you do? Do you drive 330 00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:03,411 all the way back to the store 331 00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:05,653 and make them exchange it for another box? 332 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:07,648 Do you, uh, write to the manufacturer? 333 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,350 Or do you just 334 00:14:09,382 --> 00:14:12,422 shrug it off, throw the box away and get on with your life? 335 00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:13,592 Me? I'd go back to the store. 336 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:16,390 Because? Any reputable store is gonna want 337 00:14:16,423 --> 00:14:18,263 to make good on that purchase. 338 00:14:18,291 --> 00:14:20,561 And so is the manufacturer, by the way. 339 00:14:20,593 --> 00:14:23,503 There's nothing to be gained by angering a customer. 340 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,370 This juror's acceptable to the defense. 341 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:27,998 He's good, but Bull's gonna strike him. 342 00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:30,195 Does the plaintiff wish to question this juror? 343 00:14:30,237 --> 00:14:32,507 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, too, Your Honor. 344 00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:34,339 Thank you. 345 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:40,310 If you have a choice, do you prefer store brand products, 346 00:14:40,347 --> 00:14:42,217 or name brand products? 347 00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:43,649 Most of the time, store brand. 348 00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:45,323 Any particular reason why? 349 00:14:45,352 --> 00:14:47,322 Bears don't use toilet paper. 350 00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:49,364 And mermaids don't drink coffee. 351 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,219 I'm not paying for the trademark. 352 00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,258 I'm paying for the product. 353 00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:54,533 That's very clever. Mm-hmm. 354 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:56,261 Move to strike, Your Honor. 355 00:14:58,131 --> 00:14:59,971 ATTORNEY: How do you feel about drug companies? 356 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,370 I wish their drugs cost less. 357 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:03,201 But then... I wish everything cost less. 358 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,206 (laughs) Hear, hear. 359 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:06,538 But notwithstanding price, 360 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,543 how do you feel about drug companies? 361 00:15:08,575 --> 00:15:11,135 I mean, do you use prescription drugs at all? 362 00:15:11,178 --> 00:15:12,948 I have a couple of prescriptions, yes. 363 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:15,180 And do they do what they're supposed to do? 364 00:15:15,215 --> 00:15:18,145 Help you with the things you need them to help with? Yes. 365 00:15:18,185 --> 00:15:20,115 Would you miss them if you didn't have them? 366 00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:21,323 Couldn't get them? 367 00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:22,594 Yes, definitely. 368 00:15:22,622 --> 00:15:24,662 So back to my first question, 369 00:15:24,691 --> 00:15:26,631 how do you feel about drug companies? 370 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:31,128 I guess I'm kind of grateful for them. 371 00:15:31,164 --> 00:15:33,034 (mouthing): She's great. 372 00:15:33,066 --> 00:15:35,596 ATTORNEY: This juror is acceptable to the defense. 373 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:37,335 And to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 374 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:40,710 Ladies and gentlemen, we have a jury. 375 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:42,640 The rest of you are dismissed. (gavel bangs) 376 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:44,635 Thank you for your time. 377 00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:48,176 Well, that was easy. 378 00:15:48,215 --> 00:15:49,575 What are you trying to pull? 379 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:50,576 What are you talking about? 380 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:52,017 You mean the jurors? 381 00:15:52,052 --> 00:15:53,952 Great minds think alike. 382 00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:56,592 You look puzzled. 383 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,293 Can't you read me? 384 00:15:58,325 --> 00:16:00,125 I'd just like to understand. That's all. 385 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,530 Oh, I'm sorry. 386 00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:04,201 We're not taking new students at the moment. 387 00:16:04,231 --> 00:16:06,231 See you in court, Ms. Cander. 388 00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:13,508 (elevator bell chimes) 389 00:16:14,541 --> 00:16:16,541 (sighs) 390 00:16:18,078 --> 00:16:20,308 (computer beeps) 391 00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:33,728 Cable. 392 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,500 Cable! (gasps) 393 00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:37,498 BENNY: So what did you discover working 394 00:16:37,530 --> 00:16:39,070 the graveyard shift? 395 00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:40,129 Bunch of stuff. 396 00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:42,667 A complete record of every delivery Simon ever made 397 00:16:42,702 --> 00:16:43,942 for Rush City Courier. 398 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:47,670 And Danny e-mailed me that she might've found another subject 399 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:50,177 in Simon's trial, and last but not least, 400 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:54,510 my very big score-- an old friend of Simon's. 401 00:16:54,547 --> 00:16:56,717 And this friend is relevant why? 402 00:16:56,749 --> 00:16:59,689 I don't know. It's really a long shot. 403 00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:03,289 But the funny thing is, I didn't even find him on the Internet. 404 00:17:03,323 --> 00:17:06,133 I dug up his application from when he worked here, 405 00:17:06,159 --> 00:17:09,229 and under emergency contact, he put this guy. 406 00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:10,662 His name is Tom Greaver. 407 00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:12,167 Never mentioned him to me 408 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:14,369 the whole time we knew each other, but 409 00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:16,241 put someone as your emergency contact, 410 00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:18,309 they've got to know a lot about you. 411 00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:20,638 Hmm. You should come to court. 412 00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:22,513 We're there because of you. 413 00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,242 MRS. JONES: Simon and I 414 00:17:24,277 --> 00:17:26,207 were incredibly close. 415 00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:30,216 We spoke twice a week-- Mondays and Thursdays. 416 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:31,580 He always called me. 417 00:17:31,618 --> 00:17:34,088 7:30 at night. 418 00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:36,421 You could set your clock by it. 419 00:17:36,456 --> 00:17:39,156 And then one Thursday, um, 420 00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:41,662 a little over two months ago, my phone didn't ring, 421 00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,634 so I worried. 422 00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:47,334 And finally, 423 00:17:47,367 --> 00:17:50,737 despite my better judgment, I called him. 424 00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,470 Did he answer? 425 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,635 Yes and no. 426 00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:56,284 How do you mean? 427 00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:59,609 It was Simon, but it wasn't my Simon. 428 00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:03,584 He just sounded different. 429 00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:05,586 Muted. 430 00:18:05,618 --> 00:18:07,688 Like some part of him had disappeared 431 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,360 or... been put away. 432 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:12,290 And did you know at this point 433 00:18:12,325 --> 00:18:15,295 that he had started the Dep drug trial three days earlier? 434 00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:16,528 No. 435 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:20,173 I just knew something was different. 436 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,270 And not for the better. 437 00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:24,302 Your witness. 438 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,208 Earth to TAC. 439 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,640 Tell me what you see. 440 00:18:28,675 --> 00:18:30,235 MARISSA: Well, because of the strategy 441 00:18:30,277 --> 00:18:31,907 you're using of starting with jurors 442 00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:34,584 who are predisposed to trust big companies, 443 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:36,854 you're at a disadvantage coming out of the box. 444 00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:38,793 You began the morning with ten red jurors 445 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,218 and only two green ones. 446 00:18:40,253 --> 00:18:41,523 And that hasn't changed. 447 00:18:41,554 --> 00:18:43,264 But she doesn't know that. 448 00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:44,820 You mean Arti? How could she? 449 00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:47,187 ATTORNEY: Our condolences, Mrs. Jones. 450 00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:50,257 You said your son seemed, uh, 451 00:18:50,297 --> 00:18:51,457 different that day. 452 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,328 He did. Did he mention 453 00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,296 to you that he had quit his job? 454 00:18:56,336 --> 00:18:57,636 No, he did not. 455 00:18:57,670 --> 00:18:59,740 Did he mention to you that he decided instead 456 00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:01,912 to become a bike messenger? 457 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:04,241 No, he did not. 458 00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:06,877 And you've already testified that he hadn't confided in you 459 00:19:06,913 --> 00:19:09,753 that he was participating in a drug trial. 460 00:19:09,782 --> 00:19:13,292 So isn't it a bit... disingenuous 461 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,560 to talk about how close you were? 462 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:18,488 And couldn't it be that the reason 463 00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:22,655 he sounded-- what word did you use?-- muted was because 464 00:19:22,695 --> 00:19:24,495 he was keeping so many secrets from you? 465 00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:25,501 BENNY: Objection! 466 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:27,872 The counselor has asked two questions in a row 467 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:29,770 without letting the witness answer. 468 00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,372 Sustained. 469 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:35,344 Mr. Hansen, if you could please ask one question 470 00:19:35,375 --> 00:19:37,235 and wait for the witness to answer. 471 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:42,719 Mrs. Jones, do you have any education 472 00:19:42,749 --> 00:19:45,919 or certification or training of any kind 473 00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:48,262 that allows you to hypothesize 474 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:50,658 from hearing someone's voice on the phone 475 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:52,690 whether they have been affected in any way 476 00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,755 by a medication they might have taken? 477 00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:57,264 No, I do not. 478 00:19:58,465 --> 00:20:01,695 No further questions. 479 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:03,804 There is so little movement here, I'm starting to wonder 480 00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:05,866 if we're having a systems failure. 481 00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:09,675 I'm trying to put a good face on this, but you're not helping. 482 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:15,623 (crowd chatter) 483 00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:19,917 Kevin? Kevin Wright? 484 00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:23,692 Hi. Um, can I ask you some questions 485 00:20:23,723 --> 00:20:26,233 about a clinical trial you participated in? 486 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,340 You were in the Dep Pharmaceutical 487 00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:37,398 antidepressant trial, yeah? 488 00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,007 That was supposed to be confidential. 489 00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:40,538 It's not something I'm really anxious 490 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:42,743 for people to know about. 491 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:44,575 I'm sorry if I startled you. 492 00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:46,881 It's just... 493 00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:50,483 one of the other participants, Simon Jones, died. 494 00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:52,747 Committed suicide, actually. 495 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:57,286 I'm just trying to figure out what happened. 496 00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:00,855 Did you know each other well? 497 00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:03,503 Uh, we never really hung out or anything, but... 498 00:21:03,530 --> 00:21:05,970 we ended up in a lot of the same trials. 499 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:08,738 Once you do one, and you see how easy it is, 500 00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:12,038 how much money they pay... 501 00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:15,011 We were both what they call healthy volunteers, 502 00:21:15,041 --> 00:21:17,711 and there was a big demand for that, so... 503 00:21:18,811 --> 00:21:20,981 I'm sorry. Uh, my head is spinning. 504 00:21:21,013 --> 00:21:22,823 It's a shock. 505 00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:25,349 Well, forgive me. What's a healthy volunteer? 506 00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:27,015 Uh, people who don't have the illness 507 00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:28,463 the drug is being tested for. 508 00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:29,618 Got it. 509 00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:30,956 Well, last question. 510 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:32,990 Why did you drop out of the study? 511 00:21:33,025 --> 00:21:35,055 KEVIN: When I'm not working at the gym, 512 00:21:35,094 --> 00:21:36,434 I'm training for marathons. 513 00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:38,633 I try to do six to eight miles a day. 514 00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:39,765 Been doing it for years. 515 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:43,699 But a couple of days after I started the Dep trial, I... 516 00:21:43,736 --> 00:21:46,806 I don't know. I... 517 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:51,339 I started having these feelings of... dread. 518 00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:54,078 I was supposed to fly to Chicago for a friend's wedding. 519 00:21:54,113 --> 00:21:56,753 Couldn't get on the plane. 520 00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:58,823 Became convinced that it was gonna crash. 521 00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:03,361 And that same weekend-- I think it was Saturday morning-- 522 00:22:03,390 --> 00:22:05,490 I couldn't get out of bed. 523 00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:08,395 Just skipped training altogether, and I never do that. 524 00:22:08,428 --> 00:22:11,058 But then the next day, Sunday, 525 00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:13,127 I'm running across Brooklyn Bridge, 526 00:22:13,165 --> 00:22:16,435 and I'm staring down at the water, 527 00:22:16,469 --> 00:22:20,039 and the next thing I know, I stop 528 00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:23,082 and I'm figuring out how to get over the rail 529 00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:27,509 and onto the crossbeam so I can jump, 530 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:29,917 because that's what my body wants to do. 531 00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:32,519 It wants to fall. 532 00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:35,492 It wants to be in the water. 533 00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:37,362 It wants to never come back up. 534 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:42,529 But I stopped myself. I... 535 00:22:42,562 --> 00:22:44,802 sat down there right on the bridge, 536 00:22:44,831 --> 00:22:46,701 tried to breathe. 537 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:49,673 Called my parents. 538 00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:51,542 I didn't want to die, 539 00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:56,041 but my mind was telling me to let go. 540 00:22:56,075 --> 00:22:57,575 There's nothing scarier than realizing your brain 541 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:59,550 is plotting against you. 542 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:05,024 No further questions, Your Honor. 543 00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:07,121 MARISSA: Ah, things are looking up. 544 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:10,163 Two of theirs just became two of ours. 545 00:23:10,189 --> 00:23:11,959 (speaking low, indistinctly) 546 00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,591 JUDGE: Does the defense have any questions for the witness? 547 00:23:15,762 --> 00:23:18,202 HANSEN: Morning, sir. 548 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,470 Do you recognize this document? 549 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,200 I-I do. 550 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,904 It's a consent form I signed 551 00:23:23,936 --> 00:23:26,536 to participate in the Dep Pharmaceutical trial. 552 00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,443 And, uh, is this your signature 553 00:23:28,475 --> 00:23:29,975 at the bottom of it? 554 00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:31,139 It is. 555 00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:33,077 And, uh, can you tell us the purpose 556 00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:35,882 of the mandatory washout period? 557 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:39,445 It's mentioned in the third paragraph there. 558 00:23:39,486 --> 00:23:43,986 It's, uh, the period of time between drug trials. 559 00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:46,563 It's something the companies insist on. 560 00:23:46,593 --> 00:23:49,663 It exists to make sure their drugs don't interact 561 00:23:49,696 --> 00:23:52,056 with someone else's drugs from an earlier trial. 562 00:23:52,098 --> 00:23:54,198 I think we've just been "Candered." 563 00:23:54,233 --> 00:23:56,903 HANSEN: And on this form you signed, 564 00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:59,566 how long is the specified washout period? 565 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:01,866 It specifies 30 days. 566 00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:03,208 30 days. 567 00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:06,052 And what were you doing 27 days 568 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:09,818 before you started the Dep Pharmaceutical trial? 569 00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:11,749 Remember, you are under oath. 570 00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:14,222 Well, I was doing a lot of things. 571 00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:19,826 But, uh, one of them was, I was finishing up 572 00:24:19,859 --> 00:24:22,159 the Manhattan Hill Medical painkiller trial. 573 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,264 Last day, last dose. 574 00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:25,966 And do you happen to know if Simon Jones 575 00:24:25,998 --> 00:24:28,668 was in that trial as well? 576 00:24:28,701 --> 00:24:30,741 Um, yes, he was. 577 00:24:30,770 --> 00:24:32,910 What drug trial are they talking about? 578 00:24:32,939 --> 00:24:34,209 Where are they getting this 579 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,040 and why don't we have it? 580 00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:38,505 HANSEN: Is 27 days the same thing as 30 days? 581 00:24:38,545 --> 00:24:39,845 KEVIN: Of course not. HANSEN: Then how do you know 582 00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:41,279 it wasn't the interaction of the painkiller 583 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:42,953 with the antidepressant that caused 584 00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:44,922 the suicidal ideation the two of you experienced? 585 00:24:44,951 --> 00:24:48,221 Because... I know. 586 00:24:48,254 --> 00:24:51,294 Look, we've done so many of these things. 587 00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:54,193 And it's... everyone does it. 588 00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:56,796 No further questions. 589 00:25:10,309 --> 00:25:12,139 I don't understand. You interviewed Kevin. DANNY: Yeah. 590 00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:14,308 Obviously he didn't tell me that he and Simon 591 00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:16,646 weren't living up to their consent form agreements. BULL: Well. 592 00:25:16,683 --> 00:25:19,923 And there was no way of knowing about the other drug trial. 593 00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:23,062 Drug trials in the research stages of pre-FDA approval 594 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:24,719 don't need to be reported. 595 00:25:24,757 --> 00:25:27,287 Well, Dep knew about it. BENNY: No. 596 00:25:27,326 --> 00:25:30,726 My guess is, Manhattan Hill Medical tipped them off. 597 00:25:30,763 --> 00:25:34,073 These drug companies are fiercely competitive, 598 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,170 but they don't like the idea of being taken to the cleaners 599 00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:40,273 by some guinea pig that they use to pay chump change 600 00:25:40,306 --> 00:25:41,336 to test their new products. 601 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:42,783 Where are we with the jurors? 602 00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:44,609 Ten against us, two for us. 603 00:25:44,644 --> 00:25:46,654 There's no movement at all? 604 00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:48,919 Sometimes it goes to 11 against us. 605 00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:53,118 How about that emergency contact guy? Tom? 606 00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,192 Tom Greaver. I can't find him. 607 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,621 Nor can I. 608 00:25:57,657 --> 00:25:59,657 He's virtually invisible online. 609 00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:02,162 What about tracking down other participants in Simon's trial? 610 00:26:02,194 --> 00:26:04,104 (scoffs) We're all trying. 611 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:08,070 Okay. Who is, uh, our next witness, counselor? 612 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:12,070 We, uh, really don't have one. 613 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,940 Terrific. 614 00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:17,935 Tomorrow morning when we rest our non-case, 615 00:26:17,977 --> 00:26:19,907 the only mystery will be, 616 00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:22,206 is the defense gonna have a field day toying with us, 617 00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:25,378 or will they be humane and ask for an immediate dismissal? 618 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:28,387 I'm sorry, Dr. Bull. 619 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,860 I never should have come to you with this. 620 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:34,160 Well, that's why I normally make it a point 621 00:26:34,193 --> 00:26:36,633 not to work on behalf of immature slackers 622 00:26:36,663 --> 00:26:38,103 who quit without notice, 623 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:39,870 lie without giving it a second thought, 624 00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:42,029 and jump off rooftops without any regard 625 00:26:42,068 --> 00:26:44,868 for the people they leave behind. 626 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:47,674 But that's just me. 627 00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:51,411 (sniffles) 628 00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:53,653 (door closes) 629 00:26:55,014 --> 00:26:56,984 (knocking on glass) He's busy. 630 00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:59,016 (door opens, footsteps approaching) 631 00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:03,257 Pretty, uh... 632 00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:05,989 Pretty savage out there, huh? 633 00:27:06,025 --> 00:27:08,725 I don't like to lose. 634 00:27:08,761 --> 00:27:10,301 The case or the girl? 635 00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:12,029 Oh, please. 636 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:16,304 No. You didn't do us any favors with the jury. 637 00:27:16,335 --> 00:27:20,365 Only people who trust corporations? That... 638 00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:22,776 That is a hell of a mountain to climb 639 00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:26,679 when you're trying to prove corporate malfeasance. 640 00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:29,923 And don't try to tell me it wasn't for that girl. 641 00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:32,789 "I'm Dr. Bull. Here... 642 00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:34,919 "I'll give you the jurors that you want, 643 00:27:34,954 --> 00:27:37,194 and I'll still beat you, right?" 644 00:27:37,223 --> 00:27:38,893 You happy now? 645 00:27:38,925 --> 00:27:40,385 You rode to the rescue and reminded me 646 00:27:40,426 --> 00:27:42,456 there's plenty of blame to go around. 647 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,404 Benny the hero. 648 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:47,701 Now leave me alone. 649 00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:49,244 I'm preparing for tomorrow. 650 00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:55,705 (door opens) 651 00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,712 (gavel bangs) 652 00:27:57,744 --> 00:27:59,214 JUDGE: Mr. Hansen, call your first witness. 653 00:27:59,245 --> 00:28:00,775 HANSEN: The defense would like 654 00:28:00,813 --> 00:28:02,783 to call Tom Greaver to the stand. 655 00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:09,323 How the hell did they find him? (door closes) 656 00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:13,025 The more important question is... why? 657 00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:17,425 TOM: We met in college. 658 00:28:17,463 --> 00:28:19,473 Liked all the same stuff-- 659 00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:21,898 drinking beers, listening to music. 660 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:23,474 Drinking beers? 661 00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:24,942 You know, on Simon's consent form, 662 00:28:24,971 --> 00:28:26,511 he said that he doesn't drink. 663 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,308 Well, this was a long time ago. 664 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,910 We were 18. 665 00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:32,282 I'm pretty sure he was telling the truth. 666 00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:34,311 In fact, I'm certain of it. 667 00:28:34,346 --> 00:28:36,346 And what makes you so certain? 668 00:28:36,382 --> 00:28:38,152 Did something happen? 669 00:28:38,184 --> 00:28:40,954 Yeah. 670 00:28:40,987 --> 00:28:45,487 Around the same time, freshman year, 671 00:28:45,524 --> 00:28:47,794 Simon OD'd on heroin. 672 00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:49,497 (gasps) (shocked murmuring) 673 00:28:49,528 --> 00:28:50,498 Oh, my God. 674 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,159 No. 675 00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:54,468 Happened at my house. 676 00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,000 He came home with me one weekend. 677 00:28:57,036 --> 00:29:00,036 My mom was an emergency room nurse 678 00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:01,742 and she saved him by giving him Narcan. 679 00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,005 No one ever knew. 680 00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:06,284 There was no record. 681 00:29:08,815 --> 00:29:10,815 I know his parents never knew. 682 00:29:11,851 --> 00:29:13,491 After that... 683 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,090 ...he just went completely sober. 684 00:29:17,123 --> 00:29:20,933 No drugs, no alcohol, no nothing. 685 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,800 You think the overdose was intentional? 686 00:29:22,829 --> 00:29:25,059 Objection. Counselor calling for speculation. 687 00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:27,297 I'll withdraw the question. 688 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,903 Yeah, but he can't withdraw the inference. 689 00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:32,296 She's good, damn it. 690 00:29:32,338 --> 00:29:34,808 She's killing us. 691 00:29:34,841 --> 00:29:37,441 She is representing her client like a pit bull, 692 00:29:37,476 --> 00:29:39,246 and she's not gonna let a pesky thing 693 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:40,908 like the truth stand in her way. 694 00:29:40,947 --> 00:29:42,107 MARISSA: Bull, I'm sorry to interrupt, 695 00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:45,148 but we just went to 12 red jurors. 696 00:29:45,184 --> 00:29:46,554 (computer beeps) Yes! Yes, I got it. 697 00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:48,115 I got it. 698 00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:50,864 Tell them to request a recess, a break. 699 00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:52,990 I found him. 700 00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:54,585 I found Tom Greaver. 701 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:57,156 He changed his name. 702 00:30:02,168 --> 00:30:03,538 So we misdirect here, then we... 703 00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:05,239 BENNY: Cable. 704 00:30:05,271 --> 00:30:07,411 Thank you for these. 705 00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:14,248 I'm really glad you came. 706 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,980 Yeah. 707 00:30:16,015 --> 00:30:17,375 Hope it makes a difference. 708 00:30:17,416 --> 00:30:19,416 Oh, I think it might. 709 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:23,520 I'm glad you came, too. 710 00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:26,425 And if I was harsh last night... 711 00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:29,058 Oh, you were. 712 00:30:29,095 --> 00:30:31,295 But we've been together a while, 713 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:33,200 so I know it's only because you care. 714 00:30:33,232 --> 00:30:34,972 I hate to lose. 715 00:30:37,103 --> 00:30:38,603 Let's go with yours. 716 00:30:38,637 --> 00:30:41,267 BENNY: That was, uh... 717 00:30:41,307 --> 00:30:43,237 quite a fascinating story you told 718 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,305 about your friend Simon just before we adjourned. 719 00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:48,084 It wasn't a story. 720 00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,484 I didn't mean to imply anything, Mr. Greaver. 721 00:30:50,516 --> 00:30:53,486 But I am curious. 722 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,419 Your mom kept Narcan at home? 723 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,356 Well, like I said, she was an emergency room nurse. 724 00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:01,191 Still... 725 00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:05,257 was she anticipating your best friend suffering an overdose 726 00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:07,627 or was she just the best prepared mom on the block? 727 00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:09,436 Objection. Calls for speculation, 728 00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:11,468 and counselor's tone is provocative. 729 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:12,643 I'll withdraw the question. 730 00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:15,271 Now, if I wanted 731 00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:18,237 to corroborate this story, who can I speak to? 732 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,377 Say, your mom, or...? 733 00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:21,952 Unfortunately, she passed four years ago. 734 00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:24,321 I'm so sorry to hear that. 735 00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:28,250 Okay. All right. So-so-so let's review. 736 00:31:28,287 --> 00:31:29,917 Your mother's no longer with us. 737 00:31:29,956 --> 00:31:31,516 Simon is no longer with us. 738 00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:33,687 Really, the only person that we can rely on 739 00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:36,495 regarding the truthfulness of the story is-is you. 740 00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:38,098 Isn't that correct? 741 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:40,300 Yeah. I suppose that's true. 742 00:31:40,332 --> 00:31:43,242 The only reason I mention it, is... 743 00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:47,539 we can't find any history whatsoever on Simon, 744 00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:50,183 with regard to drug use. 745 00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:52,279 None. 746 00:31:52,311 --> 00:31:56,221 But there is quite a dossier on a fellow named Tom Belmond, 747 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:58,948 who went to college with you and Simon. 748 00:31:58,985 --> 00:32:02,245 Arrests for, uh, possession. 749 00:32:02,288 --> 00:32:03,558 Arrests for sales of narcotics. 750 00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,119 Three hospitalizations 751 00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:07,287 for overdoses, and then, 752 00:32:07,326 --> 00:32:08,656 ultimately, of course, expulsion. 753 00:32:08,694 --> 00:32:10,304 BULL: What's that sound? 754 00:32:10,329 --> 00:32:12,459 Is that the sound of jurors starting to move? 755 00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:15,328 Do you happen to know a Tom Belmond? 756 00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:17,567 I'm-I'm sorry. 757 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:19,543 I-I didn't hear your response. 758 00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:21,311 You ever hear of a Tom Belmond? 759 00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:25,442 I see, you're-you're having trouble with this. 760 00:32:25,477 --> 00:32:28,707 Okay. All right. I-I'll make it a little easier for you. 761 00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:31,622 Aren't you Tom Belmond? 762 00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:34,190 Objection. Is the attorney asking questions 763 00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:36,360 or making third party pronouncements? 764 00:32:36,388 --> 00:32:37,388 Sustained. 765 00:32:37,423 --> 00:32:38,723 Ask a question, counselor. 766 00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:40,387 I'm sorry, Your Honor. 767 00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:42,526 You just got back your two jurors from yesterday. 768 00:32:42,561 --> 00:32:45,001 I feel the wind shifting. BENNY: Didn't you change your name 769 00:32:45,031 --> 00:32:47,371 from Tom Belmond to Tom Greaver precisely, 770 00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:49,039 so you can avoid having to mention 771 00:32:49,068 --> 00:32:50,768 your arrest history, your history with drugs, 772 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:53,242 while seeking employment and housing... 773 00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:55,772 I wanted a fresh start, okay? 774 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:58,037 I made a lot of mistakes as a kid, but... 775 00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,447 MARISSA: One more just came over. 776 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:03,179 We are now at nine red and three green. BENNY: And isn't it true 777 00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:05,315 your mother smuggled Narcan out of the emergency room, 778 00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:07,451 not because she was worried about Simon, 779 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,416 who had no interest in drugs, 780 00:33:09,455 --> 00:33:11,215 but because she was terrified 781 00:33:11,257 --> 00:33:13,087 that her own son might overdose one day? 782 00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,355 Objection. And the story 783 00:33:14,393 --> 00:33:17,403 about Simon Jones attempting to commit suicide 784 00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,299 eight years ago with heroin was just that. 785 00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:21,331 It was just a story, right? Objection. 786 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:24,297 Again, these are pronouncements, not questions, Your Honor. 787 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,466 One more green light. 788 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,635 They've got eight, and we've got four. 789 00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,444 Now the fun really begins. 790 00:33:30,476 --> 00:33:32,536 Well, then, here's the question: how much did Dep pay you 791 00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:35,148 to take the stand and perjure yourself today, 792 00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:36,781 Mr. Greaver or Mr. Belmond, 793 00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:38,545 or whoever you say you are?! Objection, 794 00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:40,124 Your Honor. Sustained. 795 00:33:40,152 --> 00:33:41,492 No problem, Your Honor. 796 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,690 Question withdrawn. (galley murmuring) 797 00:33:43,722 --> 00:33:45,392 I think I'd rather not know. 798 00:33:45,424 --> 00:33:47,564 No further questions, please. 799 00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:50,163 How's that for an inference? 800 00:33:50,196 --> 00:33:51,326 MARISSA: Now we've got five, 801 00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:52,533 and they've got seven. 802 00:33:52,564 --> 00:33:53,704 BULL: Nice work. 803 00:33:53,732 --> 00:33:56,142 JUDGE: Court will resume tomorrow morning. (gavel bangs) 804 00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:00,170 Read any good jurors lately? 805 00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:01,636 Well, yes, I have. 806 00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:04,483 And I suspect that you have, too. 807 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,380 But we both know that I'm reading 808 00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:07,812 more good jurors than you are, Dr. Bull, 809 00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:10,216 so stop trying to play with me. 810 00:34:10,249 --> 00:34:12,279 Although, I suspect 811 00:34:12,318 --> 00:34:15,488 that at some point, we might get to that, too. 812 00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,488 (traffic sounds) 813 00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:24,098 (pounding on door) 814 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,273 Hi. Sorry to bother you. 815 00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,301 I'm looking for Edgar Paulson? 816 00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:38,712 CHUNK: Mr. Paulson's name 817 00:34:38,744 --> 00:34:40,454 is on a list of people who participated 818 00:34:40,479 --> 00:34:42,509 in a drug trial that we're investigating. 819 00:34:42,548 --> 00:34:44,448 (chuckles): It took me a while to track him down. 820 00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:46,493 Is there any way I could speak to him? 821 00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:49,618 I'm sorry. Uh, Mr. Paulson's no longer with us. 822 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:53,485 Is there any way you could share a forwarding address? 823 00:34:53,525 --> 00:34:55,285 Some way to contact him? 824 00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:59,398 Mr. Paulson hung himself 825 00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,471 about three and a half weeks ago. 826 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,400 (exhales) 827 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:05,695 I'm so sorry. 828 00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:07,367 I had no idea. 829 00:35:07,406 --> 00:35:09,506 I actually checked all the names on this list 830 00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:11,441 for deaths and hospitalizations. 831 00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:13,547 I don't know how that got past me. 832 00:35:13,579 --> 00:35:15,579 I'm sure it'll show up shortly. 833 00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:17,184 The woman who took care of him, 834 00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:19,516 she struck me as very thorough. 835 00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:20,891 A woman? 836 00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,689 Well, someone he worked with. Or for. 837 00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:25,662 She would stop by here. 838 00:35:25,691 --> 00:35:27,561 Make sure he took his medicine. 839 00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:29,703 Gave him money occasionally. 840 00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:32,458 She stopped by to see him the morning we found him. 841 00:35:32,498 --> 00:35:34,728 She was terribly upset. 842 00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,866 Took care of all the details. 843 00:35:36,902 --> 00:35:39,442 Even paid for his cremation. 844 00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:43,281 Would you happen to have her name? This woman? 845 00:35:43,309 --> 00:35:44,379 TESSA: My name is Tessa Snyder. 846 00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:48,410 I am Chief Executive Officer for Dep Pharmaceutical. 847 00:35:48,447 --> 00:35:50,247 Have been for about three years now. 848 00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:51,652 And can you tell the jury 849 00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:53,453 what we're doing here today? 850 00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:56,415 And by that I mean we all know drug companies 851 00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:59,225 face legal actions like this all the time. 852 00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:01,288 Usually they're settled out of court. 853 00:36:01,327 --> 00:36:04,657 But why did you, a young CEO, choose to fight this out 854 00:36:04,696 --> 00:36:06,466 in a public forum? BULL: Nice move. 855 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:09,438 She's turning the very fact that we're suing her client 856 00:36:09,468 --> 00:36:11,838 into a laudable thing in the eyes of the jury. 857 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,810 I may steal that. 858 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:18,484 One, this company has an unblemished record 859 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,210 with regard to drug and testing safety. 860 00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:24,777 And two, this new drug-- 861 00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:27,586 the first created under my leadership-- 862 00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:30,519 is truly a pharmaceutical miracle 863 00:36:30,556 --> 00:36:32,956 for people who suffer from depression. 864 00:36:32,991 --> 00:36:36,861 I welcomed the opportunity to tell the court, 865 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:38,955 the jury, the world, about it. 866 00:36:38,997 --> 00:36:40,527 And can you tell the jury 867 00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:42,566 why you conduct 868 00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:45,241 these clinical trials? 869 00:36:45,271 --> 00:36:46,671 Well, the first thing you need to know 870 00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:50,535 is I got into this business to help ease 871 00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:51,906 human suffering. 872 00:36:51,943 --> 00:36:53,783 I mention that 873 00:36:53,812 --> 00:36:57,352 because I need you to know how deeply sorry I am 874 00:36:57,383 --> 00:36:58,553 for the Jones family's loss. 875 00:36:58,584 --> 00:37:01,354 BULL: Excellent segue. Nicely written. 876 00:37:01,387 --> 00:37:02,947 Nicely performed. 877 00:37:02,988 --> 00:37:04,658 Having said that, 878 00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:06,760 we did nothing wrong. 879 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:09,562 Simon was screened. 880 00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:12,395 The fact that he was not completely truthful 881 00:37:12,431 --> 00:37:13,731 is not something we can control. 882 00:37:13,765 --> 00:37:14,965 MARISSA: Just so you know, 883 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,300 our mirror jury is loving her. 884 00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:18,436 How can you not? 885 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:25,413 And while we need to do better 886 00:37:25,444 --> 00:37:26,584 to ferret out the liars, 887 00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:28,652 we can't let it stop our work. 888 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,950 These clinical trials exist for the greater good. 889 00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:32,882 Without them, 890 00:37:32,918 --> 00:37:36,418 there wouldn't be medical innovations and discoveries, 891 00:37:36,455 --> 00:37:37,855 new cures for everything 892 00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:40,459 from reproductive health to cancer. 893 00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:41,832 BULL: Something's going on. 894 00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:44,600 She's targeting juror three. Why? 895 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:46,800 Well, she's one of our greens, and she just went red. 896 00:37:46,832 --> 00:37:49,742 Her friend recently passed from cancer. 897 00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:53,438 Wow. This woman will do anything to win. 898 00:37:53,472 --> 00:37:54,972 Reminds me of me. 899 00:37:58,644 --> 00:38:00,654 BENNY: Good morning, Ms. Snyder. 900 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:02,709 Isn't it true that one of the major problems 901 00:38:02,748 --> 00:38:06,688 these clinical trials face is recruiting subjects? 902 00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:10,558 I mean... I can't believe that there's lots of people 903 00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:13,729 who are willing to put untested drugs into their bodies 904 00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:15,729 for whatever you're willing to pay them. 905 00:38:15,761 --> 00:38:18,761 Well, it's certainly a lot easier 906 00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:20,827 to find subjects who suffer from whatever condition 907 00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:21,926 we're trying to target. 908 00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:24,467 Yes. 909 00:38:24,503 --> 00:38:26,413 It can be incredibly difficult 910 00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:28,638 finding healthy volunteers. 911 00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:30,844 Truly healthy volunteers. 912 00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:34,776 BENNY: And yet, until this drug, until this lawsuit, 913 00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:36,953 your company had a rare spotless record. 914 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:39,352 None of the healthy volunteers 915 00:38:39,385 --> 00:38:41,115 in the 50 so years 916 00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:42,952 that the company has been in existence ever... 917 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,618 filed a claim or sought a settlement. 918 00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,427 Is that why 919 00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:48,659 you decided to hide the other suicide 920 00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:50,404 amongst the ten healthy volunteers? 921 00:38:50,429 --> 00:38:51,829 (shocked murmuring) 922 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,100 I love that sound. 923 00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:59,465 Me, too. 924 00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:01,135 I have no idea what you're talking about. 925 00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:03,812 Well, does the name Edgar Paulson ring a bell? 926 00:39:05,611 --> 00:39:08,981 Edgar Paulson? 927 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:10,884 A 62-year-old homeless man 928 00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:13,146 with dubious mental acuity 929 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:16,024 who, up until the point that he hung himself, 930 00:39:16,054 --> 00:39:19,894 was living at the Light Mission Homeless Shelter? 931 00:39:19,925 --> 00:39:22,555 Is that Dep Pharmaceutical's idea 932 00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,404 of a healthy volunteer? 933 00:39:25,764 --> 00:39:27,804 MARISSA: Things are looking greener and greener over here. 934 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:31,443 I think you're mistaken. 935 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,810 Mr. Paulson was in absolutely fine... 936 00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:36,739 physical and mental shape. 937 00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:39,075 He had fallen on hard times financially, 938 00:39:39,110 --> 00:39:41,680 and that had taken a toll on his disposition. 939 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,553 But from a purely clinical standpoint, 940 00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:46,653 Mr. Paulson was an ideal subject. 941 00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:50,455 Additionally, he finished the trial successfully. 942 00:39:50,489 --> 00:39:53,189 Anything that may have befallen him after that... 943 00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:54,864 Six days after that? 944 00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,633 Again, Mr. Paulson 945 00:39:56,662 --> 00:40:00,602 suffered from crushing financial problems. 946 00:40:00,632 --> 00:40:03,802 I can only speculate that that may be why he took his own life. 947 00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:06,965 There's no causation there. Ah. 948 00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:09,735 I guess we'll never know, will we, Ms. Snyder? 949 00:40:09,775 --> 00:40:12,535 Since you conveniently paid for the body to be cremated. 950 00:40:12,578 --> 00:40:13,778 (shocked murmuring) 951 00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:14,812 Objection. 952 00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:16,816 Relevance. 953 00:40:16,848 --> 00:40:17,918 Doesn't get more relevant than that. 954 00:40:17,949 --> 00:40:21,489 But please ask the witness a question 955 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,790 as opposed to simply making a statement. 956 00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:26,832 Yes. Ms. Snyder, 957 00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:29,758 did you or did you not 958 00:40:29,795 --> 00:40:32,595 arrange for the cremation of Mr. Edgar Paulson 959 00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:34,901 once you realized he had killed himself 960 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,903 after a one month course of your new drug? 961 00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:42,235 (whispering) 962 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:44,743 Ms. Snyder? 963 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,508 BULL: Three... 964 00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:51,117 two... 965 00:40:52,818 --> 00:40:54,048 ...one. 966 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:59,527 Your Honor, would it be possible to ask for a brief recess 967 00:40:59,558 --> 00:41:00,928 so the sides could meet privately 968 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:02,659 for a short discussion? 969 00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,934 Can you say "settlement"? 970 00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:07,133 JUDGE: This court will take a 90 minute recess. 971 00:41:07,165 --> 00:41:08,725 (gavel bangs) 972 00:41:08,767 --> 00:41:10,137 (gallery murmuring) 973 00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:27,988 (gentle piano music plays in background) 974 00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:29,959 (door opens) 975 00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:32,018 (door closes) BULL: Oh. 976 00:41:32,057 --> 00:41:35,557 There you are. 977 00:41:35,594 --> 00:41:37,864 Here I am. Oh. 978 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,896 Miss? Uh, your oldest Scotch. Neat. 979 00:41:40,932 --> 00:41:42,602 And a glass of water, please. 980 00:41:42,634 --> 00:41:43,874 Okay. (chuckles) 981 00:41:43,902 --> 00:41:45,702 (sighs) 982 00:41:45,737 --> 00:41:47,737 You read my mind. 983 00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:49,843 But, then again, that's what you do. 984 00:41:49,875 --> 00:41:52,105 And you do it very well, by the way. 985 00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:57,646 I, uh... 986 00:41:59,284 --> 00:42:02,594 I need you to know something. 987 00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,821 I didn't bribe that friend of Simon's. 988 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:06,656 I'm not saying 989 00:42:06,692 --> 00:42:08,992 that I didn't sense that something might be afoot, but... 990 00:42:09,027 --> 00:42:11,097 I need you to know something. 991 00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:14,969 In the same way you inferred, without saying as much, 992 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,240 that Simon attempted suicide with heroin-- 993 00:42:17,268 --> 00:42:20,568 even though I strongly suspect that's not what happened-- 994 00:42:20,606 --> 00:42:23,266 Benny and I 995 00:42:23,308 --> 00:42:27,078 decided to infer a little something 996 00:42:27,112 --> 00:42:29,582 that we had no way of knowing was true. 997 00:42:29,615 --> 00:42:31,315 Maybe someone bribed him. 998 00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:34,349 Maybe someone didn't. 999 00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:35,985 We took a shot. 1000 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,056 Thank you. 1001 00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:44,063 Great minds. 1002 00:42:44,095 --> 00:42:46,195 Here's to seeing you again. 1003 00:42:46,231 --> 00:42:48,031 Knowing better next time. 1004 00:42:48,066 --> 00:42:49,766 I already rue the day. 1005 00:42:49,801 --> 00:42:51,801 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1006 00:42:52,804 --> 00:42:54,814 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org