1 00:00:01,202 --> 00:00:03,642 BULL: I'm Dr. Jason Bull. I'm not a lawyer. 2 00:00:03,671 --> 00:00:07,241 I'm an expert in what's called trial science. 3 00:00:07,275 --> 00:00:11,105 I study the jury's behavioral patterns. 4 00:00:11,145 --> 00:00:13,345 I know what they're thinking before they do. 5 00:00:14,548 --> 00:00:18,288 Everything my team learns gets plugged into a matrix, 6 00:00:18,319 --> 00:00:21,259 which allows us to assemble a mirror jury 7 00:00:21,289 --> 00:00:24,089 that is scary in its predictive efficiency. 8 00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:28,830 The verdict you get depends on me. 9 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:32,072 And that's no bull. 10 00:00:35,836 --> 00:00:37,736 * 11 00:00:37,771 --> 00:00:39,771 (indistinct chatter) 12 00:00:41,375 --> 00:00:44,375 ELLEN: Welcome to Open and Shut with Ellen Huff, 13 00:00:44,412 --> 00:00:46,152 a true crime podcast 14 00:00:46,180 --> 00:00:48,720 investigating the unsolved murder of college athlete 15 00:00:48,749 --> 00:00:51,719 Mike Tasker, considered a "golden boy" 16 00:00:51,752 --> 00:00:53,322 for Hudson University's basketball team. 17 00:00:53,354 --> 00:00:54,594 Three years ago, 18 00:00:54,622 --> 00:00:58,432 Mike was found shot to death in Central Park, 19 00:00:58,459 --> 00:01:00,429 the apparent victim of a robbery gone bad. 20 00:01:00,461 --> 00:01:03,401 With no leads since the murder, 21 00:01:03,431 --> 00:01:04,471 the case had gone cold-- 22 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:06,298 that is, until earlier this year 23 00:01:06,334 --> 00:01:07,744 Open and Shut unearthed a rape allegation 24 00:01:07,768 --> 00:01:11,168 from another college student named Reese Burton 25 00:01:11,205 --> 00:01:12,835 that the police knew nothing about. 26 00:01:12,873 --> 00:01:16,113 Three years ago, she filed an anonymous complaint 27 00:01:16,144 --> 00:01:18,684 accusing Mike of sexually assaulting her on campus. 28 00:01:18,712 --> 00:01:21,182 The next week, Reese bought a gun, 29 00:01:21,215 --> 00:01:22,675 began stalking Mike, 30 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:24,586 and the following week, she threatened him. 31 00:01:24,618 --> 00:01:27,158 That was the night he was killed. 32 00:01:27,188 --> 00:01:29,418 All of this was unknown 33 00:01:29,457 --> 00:01:30,557 until my investigation began. 34 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:32,531 Three years later, Reese's DNA 35 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,300 has been placed at the scene of the murder, 36 00:01:34,328 --> 00:01:35,298 a damning piece of evidence 37 00:01:35,329 --> 00:01:37,699 that will most certainly land Reese behind bars. 38 00:01:37,731 --> 00:01:41,641 You are listening to Open and Shut with Ellen Huff. 39 00:01:41,669 --> 00:01:43,669 REPORTER: The news media has gone wild 40 00:01:43,704 --> 00:01:45,914 over the sensational new podcast Open and Shut. 41 00:01:45,939 --> 00:01:47,879 If the cops arrest you, 42 00:01:47,908 --> 00:01:49,878 you're guilty of something. 43 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:52,450 I love being a part of something everyone's talking about. 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,780 It makes me feel connected. 45 00:01:53,814 --> 00:01:55,324 Sad to say, 46 00:01:55,349 --> 00:01:57,389 a good story spreads faster than the truth. 47 00:01:57,418 --> 00:02:00,288 Doesn't matter if you really did it. 48 00:02:00,321 --> 00:02:03,391 All that matters is that people think you did it. 49 00:02:03,424 --> 00:02:06,494 You don't look like a lawyer from Legal Aid. 50 00:02:06,527 --> 00:02:08,597 Technically, I'm a psychologist. 51 00:02:08,629 --> 00:02:12,169 I'm... Dr. Jason Bull. 52 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,500 Are you analyzing me? 53 00:02:14,535 --> 00:02:15,565 Yes. 54 00:02:15,603 --> 00:02:17,443 But that's not why I'm here. 55 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:19,611 I'm here because you need help. A lot of help. 56 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:21,440 Not the kind of help you're gonna get from Legal Aid. 57 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:25,305 Trial Analysis Corporation? 58 00:02:25,346 --> 00:02:26,906 How do you help with trials? 59 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:30,177 I change people's minds for a living. 60 00:02:30,218 --> 00:02:32,218 Especially the jury's. 61 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:34,493 Have you heard the podcast? 62 00:02:34,522 --> 00:02:35,522 No. 63 00:02:35,556 --> 00:02:38,526 It's not really my thing. 64 00:02:38,559 --> 00:02:40,729 I don't believe in "open and shut," 65 00:02:40,761 --> 00:02:43,931 especially when it's made to entertain 25 million people. 66 00:02:43,964 --> 00:02:46,474 I want to hear you tell me the story. 67 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:49,340 Right. 68 00:02:49,370 --> 00:02:51,470 Last time a stranger approached me 69 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:53,905 and asked for my story, well... 70 00:02:53,941 --> 00:02:55,711 Ellen Huff sandbagged me 71 00:02:55,743 --> 00:02:58,253 and twisted everything I said to make me into a killer. 72 00:02:58,279 --> 00:03:00,549 So you can't blame me if my trust is wearing thin. 73 00:03:00,581 --> 00:03:02,821 Okay. 74 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:04,420 I understand. 75 00:03:04,452 --> 00:03:06,752 Enjoy prison. It was nice to meet you. 76 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:10,523 Wait. 77 00:03:10,558 --> 00:03:12,658 Where are you going? 78 00:03:12,693 --> 00:03:15,663 Well, I thought we were through. 79 00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:19,868 Why do you think I'm innocent? 80 00:03:25,373 --> 00:03:29,413 Because rape survivors react in different ways. 81 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:31,453 And rage is one of those. 82 00:03:32,813 --> 00:03:35,553 Enough rage to kill their perpetrator? 83 00:03:35,583 --> 00:03:36,983 Absolutely. 84 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:38,887 But that's not how you reacted. 85 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:40,419 The way you reacted... 86 00:03:40,454 --> 00:03:43,794 You can't fake that kind of pain. 87 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:47,026 Why don't you tell me 88 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:49,630 why this podcast is full of crap? 89 00:03:59,807 --> 00:04:03,477 I met Mike at this Phi Delt party. 90 00:04:03,511 --> 00:04:05,511 He walked me home. 91 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:08,547 He asked to use the bathroom. 92 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:13,719 (scoffs) 93 00:04:13,754 --> 00:04:15,764 I was so naive. 94 00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:19,527 The next day, I reported it to the administration. 95 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,730 I... 96 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:24,372 They said they would "look into it." 97 00:04:24,398 --> 00:04:26,568 But the Hudson University basketball team 98 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,070 made it into the finals that year. 99 00:04:28,101 --> 00:04:29,541 Ah. 100 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:31,440 And they were gonna protect their star player. 101 00:04:31,472 --> 00:04:32,812 Didn't matter. 102 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:33,940 A few weeks later, Mike was dead 103 00:04:33,974 --> 00:04:35,614 and that was the end of it. 104 00:04:35,643 --> 00:04:36,613 I got a job, made new friends, 105 00:04:36,644 --> 00:04:38,514 put it behind me. 106 00:04:38,546 --> 00:04:40,646 And then, three years later, Ellen Huff 107 00:04:40,681 --> 00:04:42,521 uncovers your complaint against Mike? 108 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:45,520 Yeah, this claim that I filed anonymously. 109 00:04:45,553 --> 00:04:48,663 'Cause I didn't want to forever be that girl... 110 00:04:48,689 --> 00:04:49,989 that girl that was raped. 111 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:52,563 After Ellen outed me, 112 00:04:52,593 --> 00:04:54,063 the police reopened the case. 113 00:04:54,094 --> 00:04:57,004 They said that my hair matched a hair on Mike's jacket, 114 00:04:57,030 --> 00:05:01,570 and boom, my world is upside-down. 115 00:05:01,602 --> 00:05:03,572 But Ellen twisted all the facts. 116 00:05:03,604 --> 00:05:05,614 What about this hair on the jacket 117 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:07,109 that's a perfect DNA match? 118 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:09,680 That makes sense. 119 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:12,680 The night Mike was killed, he was wearing the same jacket 120 00:05:12,713 --> 00:05:14,723 as the night he wore when he... 121 00:05:17,518 --> 00:05:19,688 ...you know. 122 00:05:21,889 --> 00:05:23,819 I didn't kill Mike. 123 00:05:25,893 --> 00:05:28,033 I believe you. 124 00:05:30,698 --> 00:05:31,928 (lock buzzes) 125 00:05:31,965 --> 00:05:33,865 (door opens) 126 00:05:33,901 --> 00:05:35,771 Can you get me out of here? 127 00:05:36,970 --> 00:05:38,140 (sniffs) 128 00:05:38,171 --> 00:05:40,141 I take it this case is pro bono. 129 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:42,683 Which is why you need to try it. 130 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:44,010 Think that's a compliment? 131 00:05:44,044 --> 00:05:46,054 You have heard the podcast. 132 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:47,819 I will, as soon as we've done our research. 133 00:05:47,848 --> 00:05:49,518 And I know she was a victim. 134 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:50,680 She's still a victim, 135 00:05:50,718 --> 00:05:52,588 a second time. 136 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:54,890 We're trying this case, Benny. 137 00:05:54,922 --> 00:05:55,962 Okay. 138 00:05:55,989 --> 00:05:58,159 Good. Good. 139 00:05:58,191 --> 00:06:01,601 I've been eager to step back in the ring with the D.A.'s office. 140 00:06:01,629 --> 00:06:04,129 I wonder who I get to knock gloves with. 141 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:13,805 Amanda. 142 00:06:13,841 --> 00:06:16,141 Did you know she was prosecuting this case? 143 00:06:19,513 --> 00:06:20,583 Benny. 144 00:06:20,614 --> 00:06:21,724 Amanda. 145 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:23,949 What a surprise. 146 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:25,994 I heard you were working with your brother-in-law. 147 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:27,989 Ex-brother-in-law. Dr. Jason Bull. 148 00:06:28,021 --> 00:06:29,791 Your reputation precedes you. 149 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:32,955 So... how have you been? 150 00:06:32,993 --> 00:06:33,963 Busy. 151 00:06:33,994 --> 00:06:35,734 I didn't realize 152 00:06:35,763 --> 00:06:36,963 you were still trying cases. 153 00:06:36,997 --> 00:06:38,067 I was fired. 154 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:39,798 I didn't die. 155 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:41,603 That's not what I meant. 156 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:43,735 Anyways, you shouldn't take this to trial. 157 00:06:43,771 --> 00:06:44,841 It's open and shut. 158 00:06:44,872 --> 00:06:45,912 BAILIFF: All rise. 159 00:06:45,939 --> 00:06:49,179 The Superior Court of New York is now in session. 160 00:06:49,209 --> 00:06:51,979 State v. Reese Burton, 161 00:06:52,012 --> 00:06:56,722 case number 0255348. 162 00:06:57,751 --> 00:06:58,991 How do you plead? 163 00:07:03,691 --> 00:07:05,691 Not guilty, Your Honor. 164 00:07:06,827 --> 00:07:08,457 BULL: Reese, it's a good sign 165 00:07:08,496 --> 00:07:09,826 the judge granted bail. 166 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,973 Chin up, back straight, don't smile, don't frown, 167 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,670 don't look at anyone. REPORTER: Reese! 168 00:07:14,702 --> 00:07:16,072 You're not guilty; there's nothing to be ashamed of. 169 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:17,973 REPORTER 2: Reese, do you expect a fair trial? 170 00:07:18,005 --> 00:07:19,905 (reporters clamoring) 171 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:21,040 I can't catch my breath. 172 00:07:21,074 --> 00:07:22,714 Okay. Taxi! 173 00:07:25,613 --> 00:07:27,183 Hey, reporters, media! 174 00:07:27,214 --> 00:07:28,554 Have we got a show for you! 175 00:07:28,582 --> 00:07:30,482 Whoa! 176 00:07:30,518 --> 00:07:32,718 So gather round, gather round, ladies and gentlemen! 177 00:07:32,753 --> 00:07:35,123 Whatever your pleasure, we here, we got a great show for you! 178 00:07:35,155 --> 00:07:36,755 Now, I know you don't want to... 179 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:38,560 (continues indistinctly) 180 00:07:38,592 --> 00:07:39,662 ...that you really don't want to talk to. 181 00:07:39,693 --> 00:07:41,463 * 182 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:45,726 MARISSA: Are we on The Amazing Race? 183 00:07:45,766 --> 00:07:47,536 'Cause I left my running heels at home. 184 00:07:47,568 --> 00:07:48,538 Right. 185 00:07:48,569 --> 00:07:49,869 I just want to get back to TAC 186 00:07:49,903 --> 00:07:51,103 and start testing this case. 187 00:07:51,138 --> 00:07:52,908 Look, if this is about Amanda... 188 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:54,010 Whoa, hey. 189 00:07:54,041 --> 00:07:55,811 Are you accusing me of fast walking 190 00:07:55,843 --> 00:07:57,553 to avoid talking about Amanda? 191 00:07:57,578 --> 00:07:58,848 Defensive much? 192 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,720 How did you guys end it? 193 00:08:01,749 --> 00:08:03,679 Not well. 194 00:08:03,717 --> 00:08:04,847 You know? 195 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:06,045 I didn't plan to quit the D.A.'s office, 196 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:08,556 but there I was, in front of two reporters, 197 00:08:08,589 --> 00:08:10,819 about to get a conviction on a man I knew was innocent. 198 00:08:10,858 --> 00:08:12,228 I just... 199 00:08:12,259 --> 00:08:14,599 I couldn't do it. 200 00:08:14,628 --> 00:08:17,528 You're the Jerry Maguire of the American judicial system. 201 00:08:17,565 --> 00:08:19,195 Yeah, well... 202 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:22,772 I guess I thought Amanda was gonna be my Renée Zellweger. 203 00:08:22,803 --> 00:08:24,773 That she'd come with me when I left. 204 00:08:24,805 --> 00:08:26,165 Her loss, our gain. 205 00:08:27,675 --> 00:08:29,835 CABLE: Don't sweat the mock trial, okay? 206 00:08:29,877 --> 00:08:31,677 It's all just part of the process. 207 00:08:31,712 --> 00:08:35,782 I'm not worried, I just don't like the idea of 208 00:08:35,816 --> 00:08:38,116 having more strangers judging me. 209 00:08:38,151 --> 00:08:39,721 I can't imagine why. 210 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:40,853 (phone chimes) 211 00:08:40,888 --> 00:08:42,788 So, certain tonal frequencies 212 00:08:42,823 --> 00:08:46,563 are known to have a measurable effect on brain function, 213 00:08:46,594 --> 00:08:49,304 and I wrote this app that creates music 214 00:08:49,329 --> 00:08:51,999 to help you relax, focus... 215 00:08:52,032 --> 00:08:54,132 It helps me to block out distractions-- 216 00:08:54,167 --> 00:08:56,597 namely, Dr. Bull. 217 00:08:59,106 --> 00:09:02,136 (soothing tonal landscape playing) 218 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:03,735 I like it. 219 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:06,107 It's not exactly Tin Lizard, but... 220 00:09:06,146 --> 00:09:07,946 it's cool. 221 00:09:07,981 --> 00:09:09,821 You're into the Lizard? 222 00:09:10,984 --> 00:09:11,954 They're awesome. 223 00:09:11,985 --> 00:09:13,985 Okay, well, I might have info 224 00:09:14,021 --> 00:09:15,691 that they're playing a super secret show 225 00:09:15,723 --> 00:09:17,793 and you should totally come. 226 00:09:17,825 --> 00:09:18,785 Yeah, yeah. 227 00:09:18,826 --> 00:09:20,126 I just might have plans. 228 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,030 You know, like jail. 229 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:24,002 Have faith. 230 00:09:24,031 --> 00:09:26,701 Dr. Bull might be generationally challenged, 231 00:09:26,734 --> 00:09:27,844 but he's the best. 232 00:09:27,868 --> 00:09:29,968 Where is Dr. Bull? 233 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:32,073 Prosecuting your case 234 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:33,005 right how. 235 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,940 The week after she filed an assault claim, 236 00:09:35,976 --> 00:09:37,106 Reese went out and purchased 237 00:09:37,144 --> 00:09:38,854 a nine-millimeter handgun. 238 00:09:38,879 --> 00:09:41,079 And two weeks later, she got her chance to use it. 239 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:43,954 She followed Mike to a concert in Central Park. 240 00:09:43,984 --> 00:09:47,094 She threatened to shoot him 241 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,090 and, hours later, Mike Tasker was shot to death. 242 00:09:51,124 --> 00:09:53,294 Bull would've made a hell of a prosecutor. 243 00:09:53,326 --> 00:09:54,226 Huh. 244 00:09:54,261 --> 00:09:57,001 Never seen the trend line spike so fast. 245 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:58,070 I mean, 70's a problem. 246 00:09:58,098 --> 00:10:00,798 80's.... intent to convict. 247 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:03,844 90's... burn her at the stake. 248 00:10:03,871 --> 00:10:05,671 (exhales) 249 00:10:05,706 --> 00:10:07,166 She's guilty. 250 00:10:07,207 --> 00:10:08,237 MIRROR JUROR: I agree. 251 00:10:08,275 --> 00:10:09,405 MIRROR JUROR 2: Who heard her making the threat? 252 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:10,742 I mean, did that really happen? 253 00:10:10,778 --> 00:10:13,148 It was Mike's friend, Rob McKellen. 254 00:10:13,180 --> 00:10:15,050 They're bringing things up from the podcast. 255 00:10:15,082 --> 00:10:17,822 I thought we put together people who hadn't heard it. 256 00:10:17,851 --> 00:10:20,721 I did, and we instructed them not to listen to it. 257 00:10:20,754 --> 00:10:22,124 What? 258 00:10:22,155 --> 00:10:25,385 These two were downloading the podcast during lunch? 259 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:26,985 As soon as they left the building. 260 00:10:27,027 --> 00:10:28,197 It's wet paint. 261 00:10:28,228 --> 00:10:30,298 They can't help but touch it. 262 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:32,330 It's corrupted every member of the jury. 263 00:10:33,901 --> 00:10:35,201 BENNY: We need to sequester the jury. 264 00:10:35,235 --> 00:10:39,905 Judge Rand has denied 22 requests for sequesters 265 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:44,280 out of 22, citing "a waste of taxpayer dollars." 266 00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:46,011 Well, the podcast is already out there. 267 00:10:46,046 --> 00:10:48,216 (sighs) It's been field-tested by 25 million people. 268 00:10:48,248 --> 00:10:50,048 BENNY: If Amanda follows Ellen's narrative, 269 00:10:50,083 --> 00:10:51,223 she'll get a conviction. 270 00:10:51,251 --> 00:10:52,151 Or... 271 00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:54,915 we replace Ellen's story with a better one. 272 00:10:54,955 --> 00:10:57,685 I'm listening. 273 00:10:57,725 --> 00:10:59,955 Let me tell you a little story 274 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:02,403 about an incompetent journalist. 275 00:11:02,429 --> 00:11:05,299 She takes a rape victim and falsely accuses her 276 00:11:05,332 --> 00:11:07,172 of murder. 277 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,200 (beeps) 278 00:11:10,103 --> 00:11:12,313 It's time to put Ellen on trial. 279 00:11:12,339 --> 00:11:15,339 We are going to dismantle her podcast. 280 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:17,945 Reese Burton and her defense team have subpoenaed my files 281 00:11:17,978 --> 00:11:19,748 in a desperate attempt to distract the jury 282 00:11:19,780 --> 00:11:20,880 from a guilty client. 283 00:11:20,914 --> 00:11:22,324 Ms. Huff? Will you be sharing 284 00:11:22,349 --> 00:11:23,719 your information with the court? 285 00:11:23,751 --> 00:11:25,291 Freedom of the press is one of our most sacred 286 00:11:25,318 --> 00:11:27,348 constitutional rights. Woodward and Bernstein, 287 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:30,887 Daniel Ellsberg. I, too, protect my sources. (laughs) But are... 288 00:11:30,924 --> 00:11:32,494 Aren't those journalists from some of the greatest 289 00:11:32,525 --> 00:11:34,285 news organizations in the country? 290 00:11:34,327 --> 00:11:36,197 Sadly, those dinosaurs are no longer relevant. 291 00:11:36,229 --> 00:11:38,799 Today, citizen journalists fulfill the important work 292 00:11:38,832 --> 00:11:40,502 of the Fourth Estate, and I'll go to jail 293 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:43,273 before compromising the integrity of my podcast. 294 00:11:43,303 --> 00:11:45,273 (excited chatter) 295 00:11:47,775 --> 00:11:51,105 And the cell door closes on Open and Shut with Ellen Huff. 296 00:11:51,144 --> 00:11:53,184 We don't have to worry about her releasing any more episodes 297 00:11:53,213 --> 00:11:54,753 as long as she's in jail. 298 00:11:54,782 --> 00:11:56,952 So, you're a reporter now? 299 00:11:56,984 --> 00:11:59,294 I'm a citizen journalist. I have a blog, 300 00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:02,119 check it out. CABLE: Yeah, we write about anything and everything 301 00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:04,355 having to do with Reese's case. 302 00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:06,531 With Ellen in jail, we can control the narrative, 303 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,429 so, Cable, 304 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:09,430 why don't you go behind Instagram on Mike, 305 00:12:09,462 --> 00:12:11,002 see what social media has to say. 306 00:12:11,031 --> 00:12:13,001 We have a jury pool list yet? 307 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:15,373 70 have daughters. 308 00:12:15,402 --> 00:12:17,102 82 have sons. 309 00:12:17,137 --> 00:12:19,137 People with daughters should be on our side. 310 00:12:19,172 --> 00:12:20,072 Let's build a full motivational matrix 311 00:12:20,107 --> 00:12:22,407 of every possible juror's thoughts on Mike, 312 00:12:22,442 --> 00:12:26,012 Reese, rape on campus and college basketball. 313 00:12:26,046 --> 00:12:28,246 Which jurors have abuse in their background? 314 00:12:28,281 --> 00:12:30,821 I'm still investigating, but... it's a lot. 315 00:12:30,851 --> 00:12:33,291 I mean, statistically, one in four. 316 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,220 So, Danny, let's dig into the witness list. 317 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:39,826 We need alternative theories, unfollowed leads. 318 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:42,830 Our case hinges on finding the facts that Ellen ignored. 319 00:12:42,863 --> 00:12:44,933 On it. 320 00:12:44,965 --> 00:12:46,925 How'd you know she'd put herself in jail 321 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:48,867 if we subpoenaed her raw interviews? 322 00:12:48,902 --> 00:12:51,042 Well, the podcast gave her notoriety, 323 00:12:51,071 --> 00:12:53,271 but... Oh. 324 00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:55,836 falling on the sword gave her what she really wanted. 325 00:12:55,876 --> 00:12:58,406 Legitimacy. 326 00:12:58,445 --> 00:13:00,475 How much time you think we've bought? 327 00:13:00,513 --> 00:13:02,983 Well... as long as Ellen's integrity will hold up 328 00:13:03,016 --> 00:13:05,346 against the county jail food. 329 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:07,045 (crunches) 330 00:13:07,087 --> 00:13:09,157 Two days, max. 331 00:13:14,928 --> 00:13:15,898 CHUNK: Reese, you're going to appear in front of 332 00:13:15,929 --> 00:13:17,029 the jury today. 333 00:13:17,064 --> 00:13:20,474 What you wear in court is as important as what you say. 334 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:23,400 You're wearing... 335 00:13:23,436 --> 00:13:24,596 I don't know what you're wearing. 336 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:29,577 But it's at least three sizes too big. 337 00:13:29,609 --> 00:13:31,579 They're comfortable. 338 00:13:31,611 --> 00:13:34,111 That's not comfort, Mama, that's camouflage. 339 00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:36,847 If you hide in front of the jury in all that, 340 00:13:36,884 --> 00:13:38,554 they're gonna think you have something to hide. 341 00:13:40,087 --> 00:13:42,987 Silk. It softens the look, 342 00:13:43,023 --> 00:13:44,623 and I'm sewing your pockets shut. 343 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:47,187 Why? 344 00:13:47,227 --> 00:13:50,127 (chuckles) Look... your hands are in your pockets... 345 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:52,973 People automatically think you're 346 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,100 being dishonest when they can't see your hands. 347 00:13:55,135 --> 00:13:56,235 How we doing? 348 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:57,869 Is it too late to run? 349 00:13:57,905 --> 00:13:59,605 I usually advise my clients to run 350 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,109 before they get arrested. 351 00:14:01,141 --> 00:14:03,881 Um... 352 00:14:03,911 --> 00:14:05,881 Dr. Bull, this is, um... 353 00:14:05,913 --> 00:14:07,583 this is... getting a little... too real... Reese, it's okay. 354 00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:09,984 You're having a panic attack. Come sit down. 355 00:14:10,017 --> 00:14:12,147 Just repeat after me. Okay? 356 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:16,885 One, two, three, seven, eight, four, two. 357 00:14:16,924 --> 00:14:18,964 (exhales) What? 358 00:14:18,992 --> 00:14:20,232 One, two, three, 359 00:14:20,260 --> 00:14:22,230 seven, nine, 11, six. 360 00:14:22,262 --> 00:14:24,402 (gasping): One, two, 361 00:14:24,431 --> 00:14:26,871 three, nine... 362 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:33,172 One, two, three... 363 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:34,936 seven, nine, 364 00:14:34,975 --> 00:14:36,975 eleven... 365 00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:40,181 six. 366 00:14:42,349 --> 00:14:44,949 How did you do that? 367 00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:49,585 The mind can't freak out and count numbers out of order. 368 00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:51,962 How long you been having these panic attacks? 369 00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:54,932 Ever since... 370 00:14:54,962 --> 00:14:57,162 Mike. I, um... 371 00:14:57,197 --> 00:15:00,997 (sniffles) I usually just go running and it calms me down. 372 00:15:01,034 --> 00:15:03,104 Well, when this is over, 373 00:15:03,136 --> 00:15:06,006 you're gonna go running whenever you want. 374 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:08,579 Not because you have to. 375 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:12,250 Which do you prefer? 376 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:13,949 Still life with fruit, 377 00:15:13,981 --> 00:15:15,321 or this abstract painting? Your Honor, 378 00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:17,448 we're trying to hold a voir dire session here, 379 00:15:17,484 --> 00:15:19,324 not an auction at Sotheby's. 380 00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:21,422 I prefer neither, Mr. Colón. 381 00:15:21,454 --> 00:15:22,994 Understood, Your Honor, 382 00:15:23,023 --> 00:15:25,193 but I do have the right to ask the question. 383 00:15:25,225 --> 00:15:27,225 Not for long. Proceed. 384 00:15:29,062 --> 00:15:30,262 Uh, definitely the fruit. 385 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:32,097 I like to know what I'm looking at. Hmm. 386 00:15:32,132 --> 00:15:33,672 What are we doing with art... 387 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:36,500 and fruit? How does this help? 388 00:15:36,536 --> 00:15:37,966 People who like abstract paintings 389 00:15:38,005 --> 00:15:41,735 are open to new ideas. New stories. 390 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:43,084 We just don't want to let the other side 391 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:45,350 know what we're fishing for. 392 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,018 How many of you prefer the fruit? 393 00:15:48,048 --> 00:15:50,518 Okay. Jurors number four, seven and 12-- 394 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:53,120 move to strike, Your Honor. 395 00:15:55,222 --> 00:15:57,362 (beeps) BENNY: What should the penalty be for rape? 396 00:15:57,390 --> 00:15:58,530 Prison. 397 00:15:58,558 --> 00:15:59,988 Five years minimum. 398 00:16:00,027 --> 00:16:00,757 He has a daughter? 399 00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:03,063 Granddaughters. Twin teenagers. 400 00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:05,226 He dotes on him. BULL: He's in. 401 00:16:05,265 --> 00:16:06,595 Tell me about this ray of sunshine, 402 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:08,743 Tom. 403 00:16:08,768 --> 00:16:10,638 MARISSA: 64. Divorced. 404 00:16:10,670 --> 00:16:12,470 Three times. 405 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:15,035 We did a motivational matrix on Tom. 406 00:16:15,075 --> 00:16:16,675 Yeah, Bull. 407 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:18,579 He uses very aggressive language when he's online. 408 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:21,181 Who's next if we bounce him? 409 00:16:21,214 --> 00:16:23,084 Uh, Wade Macklin. 32. 410 00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:27,616 Unmarried. Uh, professional organizer. 411 00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:31,224 Well, I like the sweater and the scruff. 412 00:16:31,258 --> 00:16:34,188 But he puts things in boxes for a living. 413 00:16:34,227 --> 00:16:36,457 We only have one strike left. 414 00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:39,096 Hmm. 415 00:16:39,132 --> 00:16:41,772 (sighs) Okay. 416 00:16:41,801 --> 00:16:43,341 Does Wade have a pet? 417 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:45,070 Labradoodle. 418 00:16:45,105 --> 00:16:46,805 He had back surgery last year. 419 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,479 Cost Wade a whopping six grand. 420 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:49,608 So cute. 421 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:51,782 Oh, Wade. 422 00:16:51,811 --> 00:16:55,781 He may be rigid, but he has a heart. 423 00:16:55,815 --> 00:16:58,145 He loves his dog. 424 00:17:03,423 --> 00:17:05,163 The defense would like to thank this juror 425 00:17:05,192 --> 00:17:09,202 for his time and service. Move to strike, Your Honor. 426 00:17:09,229 --> 00:17:10,299 I'm 32 years old. 427 00:17:10,330 --> 00:17:11,760 I'm 32 years old. 428 00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:12,828 I lived in Paris for two years. 429 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:14,725 I lived in Paris for two years. 430 00:17:14,767 --> 00:17:15,797 I'm an artist. 431 00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:17,395 I'm an artist. 432 00:17:17,437 --> 00:17:18,607 I work on Wall Street. 433 00:17:18,638 --> 00:17:20,268 I work on Wall Street. 434 00:17:20,307 --> 00:17:23,677 We managed to assemble a mirror jury that makes me tingly 435 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:25,710 in its perfection. Their demographics line up 436 00:17:25,745 --> 00:17:27,475 82% with the actual jury. 437 00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:29,724 BULL: How's the initial polling? Uh, three on the fence. 438 00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:30,719 Nine strongly in favor of conviction. 439 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:33,120 Doesn't sound like perfection if you're Reese. 440 00:17:33,153 --> 00:17:33,953 What... exactly as predicted, 441 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:35,486 given the court of public opinion. 442 00:17:35,522 --> 00:17:37,422 At least these are the type open to considering 443 00:17:37,457 --> 00:17:38,687 an alternate narrative. 444 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:41,185 Cable, what did you find on Mike 445 00:17:41,228 --> 00:17:43,098 that the jury has not heard yet? 446 00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:45,230 A lot, starting with the fact 447 00:17:45,265 --> 00:17:47,625 that Hudson University had dozens 448 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:49,197 of unreported sexual assault claims. 449 00:17:49,236 --> 00:17:51,736 And none of them ended in criminal charges. 450 00:17:51,771 --> 00:17:53,771 And this story about sexual assault on the Hudson campus 451 00:17:53,806 --> 00:17:55,576 that was in the New York Ledger 452 00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:57,308 today... is that a coincidence? 453 00:17:57,344 --> 00:18:00,184 Ellen doesn't have a monopoly on exposés. 454 00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:01,383 Well, let's make sure it links to our blog, 455 00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:04,854 though it doesn't help enough with our case against Ellen. 456 00:18:04,884 --> 00:18:06,324 No, but... 457 00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:07,553 this does. 458 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:09,457 Another Jane Doe filed an assault charge 459 00:18:09,489 --> 00:18:10,859 against Mike on campus 460 00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:12,230 that same semester. 461 00:18:12,259 --> 00:18:13,689 How could Ellen have missed that? 462 00:18:13,726 --> 00:18:14,886 Well, either she didn't do her homework, 463 00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:16,557 or it didn't fit her narrative. 464 00:18:16,596 --> 00:18:18,366 Let's find out who this Jane Doe is. 465 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:19,868 I've got this one. 466 00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:22,539 DANNY: What if it was Mike's girlfriend, Gina Stefano? 467 00:18:22,569 --> 00:18:24,739 In the podcast, she said they were soul mates. 468 00:18:24,771 --> 00:18:27,341 But if so, their souls bonded over their hot tempers. 469 00:18:27,374 --> 00:18:28,914 Apparently, these two fought constantly. 470 00:18:28,941 --> 00:18:31,211 BULL: She's the prosecution's next witness. 471 00:18:31,244 --> 00:18:33,384 Benny, let's prepare a cross. 472 00:18:33,413 --> 00:18:35,223 * 473 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:46,857 Mike's former teammates and coach. 474 00:18:46,893 --> 00:18:47,863 AMANDA: When did you first learn 475 00:18:47,894 --> 00:18:48,734 about Mike and Reese? 476 00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:51,261 We were on a break, when he had this... 477 00:18:51,298 --> 00:18:52,398 drunken hookup with Reese. 478 00:18:52,432 --> 00:18:53,602 And that didn't upset you? 479 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:55,243 No. 480 00:18:55,268 --> 00:18:56,698 Mike told me everything. 481 00:18:56,736 --> 00:18:58,366 BULL: They're here for the prosecution. 482 00:18:58,405 --> 00:19:01,365 Amanda's good. I can see why 483 00:19:01,408 --> 00:19:03,438 you had a thing for her. 484 00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:04,936 Reese became obsessed with him, 485 00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:07,947 started stalking him. 486 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:10,280 If I had known that she bought a gun, 487 00:19:10,317 --> 00:19:11,417 I would've told 488 00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:12,951 the police back then. 489 00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:15,455 Right on script. That's the podcast verbatim. 490 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:16,488 AMANDA: Nothing further. 491 00:19:18,958 --> 00:19:22,958 Ms. Stefano, did you and Mike Tasker ever fight? 492 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:26,465 Sure. Every couple does. One friend reported 493 00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:28,669 that you often threw dishes at each other. 494 00:19:28,701 --> 00:19:31,201 (scoffs) Okay, not often. 495 00:19:31,238 --> 00:19:32,968 Mike could get out of line. Every once in a while, 496 00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:34,665 I had to pop him one. 497 00:19:34,707 --> 00:19:35,907 We were both very passionate. 498 00:19:35,942 --> 00:19:38,482 So passionate that you filed an assault claim against him? 499 00:19:38,511 --> 00:19:40,351 Under a Jane Doe, is that correct? 500 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:41,980 AMANDA: Objection, relevance. 501 00:19:42,014 --> 00:19:43,984 Your Honor, the deceased is not on trial here. 502 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:46,246 I'll allow it. GINA: Look, 503 00:19:46,286 --> 00:19:47,086 I was just mad at him, okay? 504 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,719 And I dropped it, like, a week later. 505 00:19:48,755 --> 00:19:50,455 We were both under a lot of pressure, 506 00:19:50,490 --> 00:19:52,490 and things got heated, and that's all. 507 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:55,995 So you, a self-described hothead, you were angry? 508 00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:56,998 (scoffs) Sure. 509 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:57,859 And under pressure. Yeah. 510 00:19:57,897 --> 00:19:59,797 Did you kill Mike Tasker? Objection. 511 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:00,872 Sustained. 512 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:03,500 Did you ever tell Ellen Huff about your turbulent 513 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:05,236 relationship with Mike? 514 00:20:05,272 --> 00:20:06,872 She never asked. 515 00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:10,206 BENNY: So, Ellen Huff was not interested in the truth. 516 00:20:11,878 --> 00:20:14,708 BENNY: She never asked. 517 00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:20,816 Just picked up Aaron and Claudia. 518 00:20:20,853 --> 00:20:22,993 Claudia read the Ledger rape story 519 00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:26,292 and is convinced that Ellen did a poor job reporting the facts. 520 00:20:26,326 --> 00:20:28,596 I take it you hacked her computer, 521 00:20:28,628 --> 00:20:29,798 implanted your news story. 522 00:20:29,829 --> 00:20:32,699 It wasn't very secure. 523 00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:35,272 Okay, Amanda's next witness up is Rob McKellen. 524 00:20:35,302 --> 00:20:38,542 Fraternity brother and Mike's best friend. 525 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,011 What's all this about pedicures? 526 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:44,505 Chunk. 527 00:20:44,544 --> 00:20:46,354 Back in college, he and Mike Tasker traded 528 00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:48,879 a bunch of e-mails back and forth scheduling pedicures. 529 00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:51,015 Pedis. 530 00:20:51,050 --> 00:20:52,890 Any of your teammates get pedis? 531 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,789 Pedicures? (laughs) 532 00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:57,461 Who we talking about, these guys? 533 00:20:57,490 --> 00:21:00,830 No. 534 00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:04,530 Not these guys. I'm thinking pedis... is code. 535 00:21:08,468 --> 00:21:10,838 BENNY: You ever get a pedicure, Mr. McKellen? 536 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:12,370 Objection, relevance. 537 00:21:12,405 --> 00:21:13,535 RAND: I'm curious. 538 00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:14,673 What? No, I... 539 00:21:14,707 --> 00:21:15,677 No? 540 00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:17,878 Then how do you explain these e-mail exchanges 541 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:20,850 between you and Mike Tasker discussing your pedicures? 542 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,650 What are you talking about? 543 00:21:23,683 --> 00:21:25,693 They're in evidence, Mr. McKellen. 544 00:21:25,718 --> 00:21:27,488 Subpoenaed by the state. 545 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,490 See? 546 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:30,421 You need an eye for detail 547 00:21:30,457 --> 00:21:31,917 to spot the significance. 548 00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:35,558 The prosecution didn't notice that you used "pedicure" 549 00:21:35,595 --> 00:21:39,695 as code for PEDs, did they? 550 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,432 Did you and Mike Tasker ever use 551 00:21:41,468 --> 00:21:44,438 performance-enhancing drugs, also known as steroids? 552 00:21:44,471 --> 00:21:45,911 (page flips) 553 00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:52,513 Can I plead the Fifth, Your Honor? 554 00:21:52,545 --> 00:21:54,575 You may, Mr. McKellen. 555 00:21:55,848 --> 00:21:58,918 Podcast made Rob look like a Boy Scout. 556 00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:00,621 Should've known better. 557 00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:02,123 I like this attorney. 558 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:03,364 He does his homework. 559 00:22:05,024 --> 00:22:07,464 Rob looks like my broker. 560 00:22:07,494 --> 00:22:09,004 I hate my broker. 561 00:22:10,597 --> 00:22:12,697 BENNY: Are you aware that 562 00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:13,702 steroids can make people aggressive? 563 00:22:13,733 --> 00:22:14,703 I've heard that. 564 00:22:14,734 --> 00:22:15,904 But I plead the Fifth. 565 00:22:15,935 --> 00:22:17,665 You have a gun collection? 566 00:22:17,704 --> 00:22:18,614 So what? 567 00:22:18,638 --> 00:22:21,038 Including three nine-millimeter side arms? 568 00:22:21,073 --> 00:22:23,013 Have they been checked for the ballistics in this case? 569 00:22:23,042 --> 00:22:24,682 I'm not on trial here. She is. 570 00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:26,551 Yeah, because of what you told Ellen Huff. 571 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,049 Objection. 572 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,050 Withdrawn. 573 00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,721 Mr. McKellen, 574 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:32,790 you were the last person to see Mike alive that night, 575 00:22:32,819 --> 00:22:33,819 weren't you? 576 00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:39,162 Whatever. 577 00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:40,531 Whatever. 578 00:22:42,729 --> 00:22:44,059 Quite a job you did on Rob. 579 00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:45,526 He went up as a witness 580 00:22:45,565 --> 00:22:47,595 for the prosecution, came down a suspect. 581 00:22:47,634 --> 00:22:49,574 At least according to Ethel and Sydney. 582 00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:52,512 BULL: And yet Wade is even more convinced 583 00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:54,009 that Reese killed Mike Tasker. 584 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,540 Oy, how is that even possible? 585 00:22:56,576 --> 00:22:58,576 It's called "backfire effect." 586 00:22:58,611 --> 00:23:00,751 When someone like Wade locks into a story, 587 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,920 even when they're shown evidence to the contrary, 588 00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:04,679 they dig their heels in even more. 589 00:23:04,717 --> 00:23:06,787 BENNY: So the only narrative Wade trusts is Ellen's. 590 00:23:06,819 --> 00:23:08,149 MARISSA: Fact that she's in jail 591 00:23:08,187 --> 00:23:11,087 only further confirms her integrity. 592 00:23:11,123 --> 00:23:13,663 Then it's time to break her out of jail. 593 00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:16,163 I'm gonna go play reporter. 594 00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:17,795 ANGELA: Danny, you know how much trouble 595 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:19,130 I could get in for this? 596 00:23:19,165 --> 00:23:22,565 You are a patriot and my favorite SoulCycle partner. 597 00:23:22,602 --> 00:23:23,842 You're lucky I can't stand Ellen. 598 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:26,170 She thinks she's in a hotel. 599 00:23:26,205 --> 00:23:29,675 ELLEN: I had no idea jail would be such a boon for the podcast. 600 00:23:29,709 --> 00:23:32,179 Another 100,000 downloads in two days. 601 00:23:32,211 --> 00:23:34,651 I've had three publishers approach me about a book. 602 00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:35,751 This is a dream. 603 00:23:35,782 --> 00:23:37,752 That's taken completely out of context. 604 00:23:37,784 --> 00:23:39,694 How did you get that? It's just.. hold on a second. 605 00:23:39,719 --> 00:23:40,919 I got to put this. 606 00:23:40,953 --> 00:23:42,023 This is new, 607 00:23:42,054 --> 00:23:43,624 so I got to... put this in here 608 00:23:43,656 --> 00:23:44,616 and then it goes to record, 609 00:23:44,657 --> 00:23:45,887 and I got to... 610 00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:47,655 press that. Okay. 611 00:23:47,694 --> 00:23:49,564 Thanks. (lock buzzes) 612 00:23:49,596 --> 00:23:50,556 (latch clicks) 613 00:23:50,597 --> 00:23:52,197 Um, so why did you say that? 614 00:23:52,231 --> 00:23:53,901 I recognize you from the press conference. 615 00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:55,033 Who do you work for? 616 00:23:55,067 --> 00:23:56,697 (sighs) I work for a lot of people. 617 00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:59,166 This is a popular blog that follows the trial, 618 00:23:59,205 --> 00:24:01,065 and, I got to say, 619 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,237 the argument for the defense has a lot of merit. 620 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:06,045 Mm, everything I wrote was true. 621 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:07,178 (laughs) 622 00:24:07,213 --> 00:24:08,883 Yeah, of course. 623 00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:09,775 But, I mean, it's pretty clear 624 00:24:09,816 --> 00:24:11,816 you left out a few key details, right? 625 00:24:11,851 --> 00:24:14,751 Like, um... Gina and Mike 626 00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:17,087 and their turbulent relationship. 627 00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:18,663 Kind of gives Gina motive. 628 00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:20,691 Well, she didn't buy a gun. 629 00:24:20,727 --> 00:24:22,057 But Rob had a gun collection 630 00:24:22,094 --> 00:24:23,134 and he was dealing steroids. 631 00:24:23,162 --> 00:24:26,172 All the top players on their team did steroids. 632 00:24:26,198 --> 00:24:27,898 Really? 633 00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:28,974 When'd you find that out? 634 00:24:29,001 --> 00:24:30,701 And why didn't you report that? 635 00:24:30,737 --> 00:24:32,867 It's not relevant. 636 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:36,283 So you just... 637 00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:39,108 you just decide which facts are relevant, 638 00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:41,705 and then you deliberately leave out other ones? 639 00:24:41,748 --> 00:24:43,778 No, you've got the story completely wrong. 640 00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:44,816 No, I got my story. 641 00:24:44,851 --> 00:24:46,221 Good, all right, listen, 642 00:24:46,252 --> 00:24:47,522 my editors are all over me 643 00:24:47,554 --> 00:24:48,624 to file this story. 644 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:50,555 Wait, what are you gonna print? 645 00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:53,690 That you only care about your podcast ratings, and that 646 00:24:53,726 --> 00:24:55,256 you got to have information suggesting 647 00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:57,034 Gina and Rob are suspects 648 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:59,273 and that's why you haven't released your files 649 00:24:59,298 --> 00:25:00,198 to the court. 650 00:25:00,232 --> 00:25:04,002 But I am releasing my files to the court. 651 00:25:04,036 --> 00:25:05,906 When did that happen? 652 00:25:06,939 --> 00:25:08,809 Just now. 653 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,309 (soft chuckle) 654 00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:13,613 (phone clacks on table) Okay. 655 00:25:13,646 --> 00:25:16,746 Uh... so... 656 00:25:16,783 --> 00:25:18,723 you're trying to kill my story. 657 00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:22,022 (lock buzzes) 658 00:25:22,054 --> 00:25:24,294 (latch clicks) 659 00:25:24,323 --> 00:25:25,893 Okay. 660 00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:29,725 Here's the deal. 661 00:25:29,762 --> 00:25:30,732 No more press conferences 662 00:25:30,763 --> 00:25:33,573 and no more podcasts until 663 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,870 after the trial is over. 664 00:25:34,901 --> 00:25:36,971 Deal. 665 00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:40,843 And I get access to the files. 666 00:25:40,873 --> 00:25:43,083 Ugh. 667 00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:46,576 (snickers) I'm a big fan, by the way. 668 00:25:46,613 --> 00:25:48,753 All right, thanks. 669 00:25:48,781 --> 00:25:50,821 (rock music playing) 670 00:25:50,850 --> 00:25:52,250 Oh! 671 00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:54,794 (chuckling): That was terrible. 672 00:25:54,821 --> 00:25:55,591 (grunts) 673 00:25:55,622 --> 00:25:57,592 Darts are pure chance, my friend. 674 00:25:57,624 --> 00:25:59,334 Uh-huh. Here we go. 675 00:25:59,358 --> 00:26:01,588 Oh, Amanda, what are you doing here? 676 00:26:06,165 --> 00:26:08,125 Oh, that's better. Look at that. 677 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:09,637 Magic. 678 00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:11,669 (chuckles) 679 00:26:13,372 --> 00:26:16,612 How far in advance did you know Amanda was prosecuting the case? 680 00:26:17,644 --> 00:26:18,854 How long you been missing Amanda? 681 00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:19,848 (dart hits board) 682 00:26:19,879 --> 00:26:20,849 What? 683 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,980 Come on, man. I'm over her. 684 00:26:23,015 --> 00:26:26,915 You haven't seriously dated anyone since you guys broke up. 685 00:26:28,955 --> 00:26:31,685 It's because I haven't found anyone I liked. 686 00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:32,934 I'm picky. 687 00:26:32,959 --> 00:26:34,959 Ha. Like other dart players I know. 688 00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:39,667 Ah. 689 00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:41,229 Check you out. 690 00:26:41,267 --> 00:26:43,737 Stage managing my life with Amanda, 691 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:45,170 pouring your life into Reese's. 692 00:26:45,204 --> 00:26:48,044 You ever gonna get serious with a woman again? 693 00:26:48,074 --> 00:26:50,084 (dart hits board) Whatever. 694 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:52,809 (chuckles) REPORTER: And now we have Ellen Huff live just moments... 695 00:26:52,845 --> 00:26:55,175 Oh, there's Ellen. Right. 696 00:26:55,214 --> 00:26:57,084 No, really. ELLEN: I have decided to share research 697 00:26:57,116 --> 00:26:58,786 from my investigation with the courts, 698 00:26:58,818 --> 00:26:59,718 so long as they protect my sources. 699 00:26:59,752 --> 00:27:02,092 And I promise you the truth is in there. 700 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:04,291 I'll keep you posted. Excuse me. (reporters clamoring) 701 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:07,294 I told her no press conferences. 702 00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:09,326 No, technically it's not. 703 00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:11,901 They were waiting for her at her apartment. 704 00:27:11,931 --> 00:27:14,871 (sighs) Are you her lawyer now? 705 00:27:14,901 --> 00:27:17,801 All right, let's finish these drinks and go say hi. 706 00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:24,277 (sirens wailing) 707 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:28,819 BULL: Hey, what's going on here? OFFICER: Hold up there. 708 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:29,778 DETECTIVE: It's all right, Officer, I know him. 709 00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:32,016 Let 'em through. BULL: Thanks, Detective. 710 00:27:34,353 --> 00:27:36,993 What happened? 711 00:27:37,023 --> 00:27:39,133 Looks like gravity. 712 00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:40,188 AMANDA: Forced entry, 713 00:27:40,226 --> 00:27:41,456 signs of a struggle. 714 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:43,203 Ellen was pushed. 715 00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:46,029 We need your client at the precinct for questioning. 716 00:28:01,047 --> 00:28:03,047 (foghorn blows in distance) 717 00:28:05,918 --> 00:28:07,848 (panting) Hey. 718 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,757 You're fast. How'd you find me? 719 00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:11,059 Figured you needed to go for a run 720 00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:13,730 after you heard about Ellen's death. 721 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,300 Are the police looking for me? 722 00:28:16,328 --> 00:28:20,028 You have about an hour. 723 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:22,196 (crying): I'm sorry, I... 724 00:28:22,234 --> 00:28:24,304 I had to get out of my apartment. 725 00:28:24,336 --> 00:28:26,736 I, uh... I couldn't breathe. 726 00:28:26,773 --> 00:28:28,983 (breathing heavily): I... I... 727 00:28:29,008 --> 00:28:29,978 saw my photo on the news. 728 00:28:30,009 --> 00:28:32,109 Hey, hey, look at me. Look at me for a second. 729 00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:33,484 Come here, come here. No. 730 00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:35,982 Come here, it's okay. Let's count, all right? 731 00:28:36,015 --> 00:28:37,045 No. Remember? 732 00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,383 Say it. 733 00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:41,047 Seven, eight, nine, 11, one. 734 00:28:41,087 --> 00:28:43,357 Do it, look at me, look at me. 735 00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:45,119 Seven, eight, nine, 11, one. 736 00:28:45,157 --> 00:28:46,257 (out of breath): Seven. 737 00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:47,932 Eight. Nine. 738 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,030 (breathing steadies) 739 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:53,003 You're okay? 740 00:28:53,032 --> 00:28:55,872 I told you. 741 00:28:55,902 --> 00:28:59,012 (inhales sharply) 742 00:28:59,038 --> 00:29:01,138 You're okay. 743 00:29:04,543 --> 00:29:08,213 You've been running since your senior year of college. 744 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,777 And I have some news for you. 745 00:29:10,817 --> 00:29:13,217 What happened to you isn't gonna change. 746 00:29:13,252 --> 00:29:15,292 But you can't let it define you. 747 00:29:15,321 --> 00:29:16,791 You don't know what it's like! 748 00:29:16,823 --> 00:29:20,363 No, I don't know exactly what it's like for you. 749 00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:22,192 How could I? 750 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:25,098 But I do know what it's like to be trapped. 751 00:29:25,131 --> 00:29:28,801 And helpless and afraid 752 00:29:28,835 --> 00:29:32,805 and too young to be able to do anything about it. 753 00:29:35,842 --> 00:29:37,412 Is that why you do what you do? 754 00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:40,453 Why you're out here? 755 00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:44,379 In the middle of the night? 756 00:29:44,416 --> 00:29:48,016 Is that why you decided to help me? 757 00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:54,488 Well... 758 00:29:56,362 --> 00:29:58,302 Understanding... (sniffs) 759 00:29:58,330 --> 00:30:01,330 why people do the things they do... 760 00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:06,465 ...is really just understanding yourself. 761 00:30:06,505 --> 00:30:08,035 And once you do that, 762 00:30:08,074 --> 00:30:09,944 you don't have to run anymore. 763 00:30:09,976 --> 00:30:11,576 Not from panic, 764 00:30:11,610 --> 00:30:13,810 not from whatever happened. 765 00:30:14,881 --> 00:30:16,221 We're gonna win. 766 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:19,118 (sniffles) Okay. 767 00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:23,188 BULL: You see, this is 768 00:30:23,222 --> 00:30:25,122 time-stamped video footage showing Reese 769 00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:26,257 entering her own apartment building 770 00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:28,062 at the time of Ellen's death. 771 00:30:29,295 --> 00:30:31,125 What's your e-mail? I'll send it to you. 772 00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:33,533 She could've left another way. Yeah. Maybe she has 773 00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:35,325 a jetpack. 774 00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:37,337 BENNY: Detective cleared my client. 775 00:30:37,369 --> 00:30:39,139 AMANDA: Don't go far. 776 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:40,371 We have court in the morning. 777 00:30:40,406 --> 00:30:44,236 Amanda, clearly, the real killer saw Ellen's press conference 778 00:30:44,276 --> 00:30:46,876 and got to her before she could reveal his identity. 779 00:30:46,913 --> 00:30:50,223 You are free to bring that theory up at trial. 780 00:30:50,249 --> 00:30:54,349 I know what Benny would do if he was still in the D.A.'s office. 781 00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:57,616 He would drop the case and go after the real killer. 782 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:02,555 We still have a subpoena for Ellen's files. 783 00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:04,334 They're now in evidence for Ellen's murder. 784 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:07,103 In which my client was called in for questioning. 785 00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:08,943 You're not trying to keep the files from me, are you? 786 00:31:08,968 --> 00:31:11,638 Come on, Amanda. I know you wouldn't willfully engage 787 00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:13,410 in prosecutorial misconduct. 788 00:31:13,439 --> 00:31:15,239 Benny, have at it. 789 00:31:15,274 --> 00:31:17,144 You can take this by evidence on your way out. 790 00:31:17,176 --> 00:31:18,536 But you can't keep assuming 791 00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:20,277 all your clients are innocent. 792 00:31:20,312 --> 00:31:23,482 All? 793 00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:28,285 I had a 93% conviction rate when I worked for the D.A.'s office. 794 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,460 One person, one innocent person... 795 00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:32,189 Forget it. 796 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:34,194 There's a reason why I quit. 797 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:35,126 You didn't quit. You were fired. 798 00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:39,365 I quit when I realized I worked for a place 799 00:31:39,398 --> 00:31:41,598 that cared more about getting convictions than having them. 800 00:31:43,635 --> 00:31:45,495 I'll see you in court. 801 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,009 Cable. 802 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,980 Have you convinced the public 803 00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:53,050 that Reese was not involved in Ellen's death yet? 804 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,049 Making progress. 805 00:31:55,081 --> 00:31:57,251 A couple of news outlets picked up my story. 806 00:31:57,283 --> 00:31:59,153 BENNY: What story? 807 00:31:59,185 --> 00:32:00,385 "Sources report Reese 808 00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:02,119 "has been cleared and has an ironclad alibi. 809 00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:03,394 "Therefore, the real killer 810 00:32:03,422 --> 00:32:06,032 "may have killed Ellen before she could reveal 811 00:32:06,058 --> 00:32:07,958 "his or her true identity. 812 00:32:07,994 --> 00:32:11,104 The police are investigating other suspects at this time." 813 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:13,530 Throw suspicion on someone other than Reese. 814 00:32:13,565 --> 00:32:15,295 Genius. 815 00:32:15,334 --> 00:32:17,144 And it might even be true. 816 00:32:17,169 --> 00:32:19,269 BENNY: Good use of media to control the story. 817 00:32:19,305 --> 00:32:20,405 And here's the kicker: 818 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:22,469 two naughty, naughty jurors 819 00:32:22,508 --> 00:32:23,608 clicked through to our blog 820 00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:25,312 and read the article. 821 00:32:25,344 --> 00:32:26,454 Hmm. It's nice work. 822 00:32:26,478 --> 00:32:27,508 That'll filter down 823 00:32:27,546 --> 00:32:29,446 to the rest of the jury by dinner. 824 00:32:29,481 --> 00:32:31,181 You know, if hacking doesn't pan out for you, 825 00:32:31,217 --> 00:32:33,387 I think you have a career as a shoddy journalist. 826 00:32:33,419 --> 00:32:35,289 Thank you. In-in the best way. 827 00:32:35,321 --> 00:32:37,361 That means a lot. 828 00:32:37,389 --> 00:32:40,589 Danny, you find anything in Ellen's file? 829 00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:41,686 No, not yet. 830 00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:43,597 This woman recorded hundreds of hours of interviews. 831 00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:45,459 If we don't get anything from Ellen, 832 00:32:45,497 --> 00:32:47,427 you think Wade will cave? BULL: No. 833 00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:48,666 We'll get a hung jury. 834 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:51,240 Well, that may not be a bad thing. 835 00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:53,470 The D.A.'s not gonna want to retry this case. 836 00:32:53,505 --> 00:32:55,535 Yeah, I understand, Benny, 837 00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:57,244 but anything short of not guilty, 838 00:32:57,276 --> 00:32:59,376 and Reese has to live the rest of her life knowing the cops 839 00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:02,351 could come knocking on the door and arrest her for murder. 840 00:33:02,381 --> 00:33:04,581 But it's not like we're gonna put Reese on the stand. 841 00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:05,776 Are we? 842 00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:07,217 Without Ellen, 843 00:33:07,253 --> 00:33:09,023 Reese is the best witness we have 844 00:33:09,055 --> 00:33:11,055 and the only one who might influence Wade. 845 00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:12,560 Not to mention... 846 00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:14,561 it's a story Reese needs to tell. 847 00:33:14,593 --> 00:33:16,703 It's one thing for Reese to have a panic attack 848 00:33:16,728 --> 00:33:18,558 while sitting at a table 849 00:33:18,597 --> 00:33:20,197 where she can count to herself. 850 00:33:20,232 --> 00:33:21,232 On the witness stand... 851 00:33:21,267 --> 00:33:23,297 Amanda will destroy her. 852 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:26,035 Make her look guilty when she freezes. 853 00:33:26,072 --> 00:33:27,542 That's what I'm counting on. 854 00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:31,811 If I say the wrong thing up there, 855 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:34,283 they'll put me away for the rest of my life. 856 00:33:34,313 --> 00:33:35,583 That's why we're here. 857 00:33:35,614 --> 00:33:37,454 To practice. 858 00:33:39,718 --> 00:33:42,518 Now, I'm gonna play the role of the prosecution. 859 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:46,694 Ms. Burton, two weeks before Mike Tasker's murder... 860 00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:49,525 You bought a nine-millimeter handgun, didn't you? 861 00:33:49,561 --> 00:33:50,701 Yes or no? 862 00:33:50,729 --> 00:33:53,129 Amanda's gonna try and limit your answers to yes or no, 863 00:33:53,165 --> 00:33:55,225 but you have the right to explain yourself. 864 00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:58,597 Yes, because I was frightened for my life. 865 00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:01,467 She's very good at restating what you said, 866 00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:02,607 but in her words and not yours. 867 00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:04,241 Correct her. AMANDA: Frightened? 868 00:34:04,276 --> 00:34:06,306 And like everyone, you had a choice. 869 00:34:06,345 --> 00:34:07,545 Fight or flight. 870 00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:09,549 You chose fight. Threatened him. 871 00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,521 No, I threatened him to stay away from me. 872 00:34:11,550 --> 00:34:13,850 You threatened to kill him with your gun. 873 00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:14,845 BENNY: Objection! 874 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:16,516 Badgering the witness. 875 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,225 If you're not done with an answer, you say... 876 00:34:19,258 --> 00:34:21,128 I wasn't finished. Amanda knows 877 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,090 you have panic attacks. 878 00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:24,198 She's gonna try and elicit one on the stand. 879 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,770 And when she does, you... 880 00:34:26,798 --> 00:34:28,668 will be ready. 881 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:30,200 AMANDA: Mike sexually assaulted you. Yes. 882 00:34:30,236 --> 00:34:31,836 You reported it to the university. 883 00:34:31,870 --> 00:34:32,840 Yes. 884 00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:34,171 And they dragged their heels. Yes. 885 00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:35,136 But that was something that... 886 00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:36,814 And you were furious about that, weren't you? 887 00:34:36,842 --> 00:34:38,812 Of course I was. You kept that rage inside. 888 00:34:38,844 --> 00:34:40,514 I didn't say "rage." AMANDA: The entire campus 889 00:34:40,546 --> 00:34:42,146 turned up for Mike Tasker's memorial service. 890 00:34:42,181 --> 00:34:43,821 REESE: A lot of people went, yes, 891 00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:45,479 who weren't raped by him. 892 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:46,617 But you were glad Mike Tasker was dead. 893 00:34:46,652 --> 00:34:48,492 You can admit that. 894 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,860 Can't you? 895 00:34:53,592 --> 00:34:55,262 Ms. Burton. 896 00:34:55,294 --> 00:34:57,764 Why does this topic make you so uncomfortable? 897 00:34:57,796 --> 00:34:59,126 (breathing heavily) 898 00:34:59,165 --> 00:35:00,495 Ms. Burton, do you need a break? 899 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,332 BULL: Before a panic attack, 900 00:35:02,368 --> 00:35:03,868 people have their own 901 00:35:03,902 --> 00:35:05,542 warning signs. 902 00:35:05,571 --> 00:35:08,641 The room starts to buzz, yeah? 903 00:35:08,674 --> 00:35:13,754 That can be your cue to melt down or to start coping. 904 00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:15,749 What if I pass out? 905 00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,521 You'll wake up. What if I throw up? 906 00:35:17,549 --> 00:35:18,319 We'll get you a bucket. 907 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:20,150 You have an answer for everything. 908 00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:22,386 So do you. 909 00:35:22,421 --> 00:35:25,221 For every question Amanda's going to ask, 910 00:35:25,257 --> 00:35:27,487 you have the truth. 911 00:35:27,526 --> 00:35:29,926 And no panic attack or prosecutor 912 00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,301 can take that from you. 913 00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:32,760 RAND: The court will recess. 914 00:35:32,798 --> 00:35:35,228 (gavel pounds) No, I don't need a break, Your Honor. 915 00:35:35,267 --> 00:35:36,697 No further questions, Your Honor. 916 00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:37,565 But she asked a question 917 00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:39,513 implying that I'm hiding something. 918 00:35:39,538 --> 00:35:41,338 I have the right to answer. 919 00:35:41,373 --> 00:35:43,343 Go ahead, you may answer. 920 00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:44,375 (sniffles) 921 00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:48,478 (Reese breathes heavily) 922 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:52,548 (sniffles) 923 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:54,354 (exhales) 924 00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:00,588 You're right. 925 00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:02,626 I couldn't stand Mike, 926 00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:04,561 but I was the last person who wanted him dead. 927 00:36:04,596 --> 00:36:07,196 I wanted him alive 928 00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:09,603 because I wanted him to pay for what he did. 929 00:36:09,635 --> 00:36:11,535 I wanted him to go to prison. 930 00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:14,470 I wanted him to feel what I felt 931 00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:17,936 and I wanted to ask him, "How powerful do you feel now?" 932 00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:22,348 And I'll never get that chance. 933 00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:25,451 He is the one at peace, not me. 934 00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:30,956 Yes, I get these panic attacks 935 00:36:30,989 --> 00:36:33,959 because I was raped and bullied, 936 00:36:33,992 --> 00:36:36,862 which is exactly how you're making me feel. 937 00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:41,831 I couldn't stand up for myself then, 938 00:36:41,867 --> 00:36:44,967 but I am stronger now. 939 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:48,343 So, ask your questions, Ms. Prosecutor. 940 00:36:48,374 --> 00:36:51,314 I have nowhere else to be. 941 00:36:51,343 --> 00:36:54,283 I did not kill Mike Tasker. 942 00:37:04,856 --> 00:37:06,986 Yeah, she gets panic attacks. 943 00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:10,525 I get it, but the prosecution's built a bulletproof case. 944 00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:12,332 No way I can acquit, 945 00:37:12,364 --> 00:37:14,034 especially since Ellen's dead. 946 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:15,995 That podcaster lady had it all. 947 00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:19,544 All that's left is my closing argument. 948 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:21,771 And we've got two hours. 949 00:37:21,807 --> 00:37:23,977 Ellen's got to have something in her audio files. 950 00:37:24,009 --> 00:37:25,009 Danny. 951 00:37:27,513 --> 00:37:29,283 This looks promising. 952 00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:33,517 Ellen's raw, unedited audio. 953 00:37:33,552 --> 00:37:35,292 You're gonna want to hear that. 954 00:37:41,026 --> 00:37:44,356 Looks like we have reasonable doubt. 955 00:37:50,068 --> 00:37:51,598 We all know what happened to Mike Tasker. 956 00:37:51,637 --> 00:37:52,637 Right? 957 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:55,936 ELLEN: Reese was obsessed. 958 00:37:55,974 --> 00:37:57,014 Stalked him around campus. 959 00:37:57,042 --> 00:37:59,042 When he turned down her advances, she bought a gun 960 00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:00,707 and threatened him. 961 00:38:00,746 --> 00:38:02,806 Social media. 962 00:38:02,848 --> 00:38:05,918 Twitter, blogs, Facebook. 963 00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,091 (laughing): It can be 964 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:12,558 a terrific tool for staying in touch, for connecting. 965 00:38:12,591 --> 00:38:14,861 For cat videos. 966 00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:16,563 But, you see, there's a difference 967 00:38:16,595 --> 00:38:18,755 between entertainment and the truth. 968 00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:22,427 And this podcast is a work of pure fiction. 969 00:38:22,468 --> 00:38:24,468 How do I know? 970 00:38:24,503 --> 00:38:26,913 ELLEN: Once police matched Reese's blonde hair-- 971 00:38:26,938 --> 00:38:28,638 shoot, brown. I need to start over. 972 00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:30,084 ENGINEER: I thought you were going to bring up Mike 973 00:38:30,108 --> 00:38:31,478 and the team's steroid use. 974 00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:34,110 ELLEN: No, it gets too complicated here. 975 00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:35,505 I'm not gonna get into it. 976 00:38:35,547 --> 00:38:36,517 ENGINEER: Very good. Take two. 977 00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:37,618 That's an example 978 00:38:37,649 --> 00:38:39,689 of how Ellen chose the facts... 979 00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:41,118 to make a compelling case. 980 00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:45,692 Ellen thought it was "too complicated" 981 00:38:45,724 --> 00:38:47,764 to introduce Mike's steroid use, 982 00:38:47,793 --> 00:38:50,733 Gina's temper and assault charge, 983 00:38:50,762 --> 00:38:52,662 even Reese's panic attacks. 984 00:38:52,698 --> 00:38:56,738 I mean, Ellen's limited version of the story may have made 985 00:38:56,768 --> 00:38:59,738 for compelling entertainment, but that doesn't make it true. 986 00:39:02,541 --> 00:39:07,111 And it cost Reese her job, her reputation, 987 00:39:07,145 --> 00:39:09,415 and it publicized to the whole world 988 00:39:09,448 --> 00:39:11,618 that she was raped. 989 00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:13,590 And you know what? It landed her right here... 990 00:39:13,619 --> 00:39:15,689 on trial for murder. 991 00:39:20,626 --> 00:39:24,126 Please don't make the same mistake Ellen did. 992 00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:27,967 She's not a murderer. 993 00:39:27,999 --> 00:39:30,799 She's a survivor. 994 00:39:30,836 --> 00:39:32,866 That's the true story. 995 00:39:41,947 --> 00:39:45,717 On the charge of murder in the first degree, 996 00:39:45,751 --> 00:39:47,521 how do you find? 997 00:39:50,689 --> 00:39:54,929 WOMAN: We, the jury, find the defendant, Reese Burton... 998 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,560 not guilty. 999 00:39:58,997 --> 00:40:00,727 RAND: Court adjourned. 1000 00:40:00,766 --> 00:40:02,926 (gavel strikes) 1001 00:40:02,968 --> 00:40:05,668 (laughs) 1002 00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:06,714 Will you look at that? 1003 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:08,668 I... I see the coach and his team 1004 00:40:08,707 --> 00:40:10,177 aren't here for the verdict. 1005 00:40:10,208 --> 00:40:13,778 Maybe you should look into that doping scandal. 1006 00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:26,156 (cork pops) 1007 00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:27,791 CABLE: Enemy alert. 1008 00:40:27,826 --> 00:40:29,086 Say the word, 1009 00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:30,857 I hit the burn button. We lose it all. 1010 00:40:30,896 --> 00:40:32,626 It's all right, Cable. She called ahead. 1011 00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:35,034 We picked up Rob for questioning. 1012 00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:36,596 He crumbled pretty quickly. 1013 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:38,735 Turns out Mike was about to blow the whistle 1014 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:40,740 on the team using steroids, 1015 00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:43,512 so the coach had motive to kill Mike and Ellen. 1016 00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:45,712 You were right. 1017 00:40:45,744 --> 00:40:47,714 Mm. 1018 00:40:47,746 --> 00:40:49,876 You came all the way here to tell us this? 1019 00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:53,646 Actually, I came to talk to you. 1020 00:40:53,685 --> 00:40:56,955 Mm, I haven't had a sip of this yet. 1021 00:40:56,988 --> 00:40:59,118 I'm gonna go play guitar. 1022 00:41:01,727 --> 00:41:03,727 I was impressed. 1023 00:41:03,762 --> 00:41:07,872 That passion... that's what I first remember about you 1024 00:41:07,899 --> 00:41:08,929 when you started at the D.A.'s office. 1025 00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:09,967 (lightly chuckles) 1026 00:41:10,001 --> 00:41:11,541 Look, Amanda, you don't have to. 1027 00:41:11,570 --> 00:41:14,110 No, I do. 1028 00:41:14,139 --> 00:41:17,239 That's why I was so upset after your press conference. 1029 00:41:17,275 --> 00:41:19,675 Well... you know how I felt. 1030 00:41:22,781 --> 00:41:24,781 I just... 1031 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:27,716 felt like you weren't taking me into account. 1032 00:41:27,753 --> 00:41:28,823 I was still working there. 1033 00:41:28,854 --> 00:41:30,724 Yeah. 1034 00:41:30,756 --> 00:41:32,756 I could've handled that differently. 1035 00:41:32,791 --> 00:41:34,791 Yeah. 1036 00:41:36,862 --> 00:41:39,772 But I do get why you did it. 1037 00:41:39,798 --> 00:41:41,668 Thanks. 1038 00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:42,730 That means a lot. 1039 00:41:42,768 --> 00:41:46,768 Just to be clear, don't ever come up against me 1040 00:41:46,805 --> 00:41:47,735 with a guilty client. 1041 00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:51,183 Well... don't ever prosecute an innocent one. 1042 00:41:51,209 --> 00:41:56,779 * From the most beautiful girl in the world... * 1043 00:41:56,815 --> 00:41:59,685 If she said she'd take you back... 1044 00:41:59,718 --> 00:42:00,748 would you do it? 1045 00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:02,246 In a heartbeat. 1046 00:42:05,156 --> 00:42:09,626 * I don't mind... 1047 00:42:09,661 --> 00:42:10,661 Thank you. 1048 00:42:10,696 --> 00:42:12,226 Mm-hmm. Hey. 1049 00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:13,233 Hi. 1050 00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:14,334 Um, if your social calendar 1051 00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:15,565 has cleared up... 1052 00:42:15,601 --> 00:42:17,971 What? 1053 00:42:18,003 --> 00:42:19,643 Tin Lizard? (chuckles) 1054 00:42:19,671 --> 00:42:22,011 No pressure, but a bunch of us are going. 1055 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,040 Yeah. 1056 00:42:23,074 --> 00:42:24,584 (chuckles) 1057 00:42:24,610 --> 00:42:25,740 Thank you. 1058 00:42:27,846 --> 00:42:30,216 Curious how you managed to turn this case 1059 00:42:30,248 --> 00:42:31,918 into an opportunity 1060 00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:35,120 for Benny to reconcile with Amanda. 1061 00:42:36,888 --> 00:42:38,188 A happy coincidence. 1062 00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:39,893 (chuckles) 1063 00:42:39,925 --> 00:42:40,925 You don't believe in coincidences. 1064 00:42:40,959 --> 00:42:41,859 Well... 1065 00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:45,633 a happy result of masterful manipulation 1066 00:42:45,664 --> 00:42:47,134 seems a bit over the top, don't you think? (chuckles) 1067 00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:51,237 How long's the feeling last? 1068 00:42:51,269 --> 00:42:53,809 Huh? 1069 00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:55,609 Winning a case like this. 1070 00:42:55,641 --> 00:42:57,141 Helping Reese. 1071 00:42:58,176 --> 00:43:00,006 Until the next one. 1072 00:43:00,045 --> 00:43:01,675 * It's time alone. 1073 00:43:01,713 --> 00:43:04,753 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1074 00:43:04,783 --> 00:43:06,623 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org