1 00:00:01,863 --> 00:00:04,003 [traffic passing] 2 00:00:07,973 --> 00:00:10,013 [traffic continues passing] 3 00:00:18,915 --> 00:00:21,015 ♪ ♪ 4 00:00:23,540 --> 00:00:25,510 [truck horn blares and echoes in distance] 5 00:00:33,895 --> 00:00:36,035 Knox? 6 00:00:38,486 --> 00:00:39,896 You there? 7 00:00:39,970 --> 00:00:42,080 ♪ ♪ 8 00:00:56,987 --> 00:00:59,057 [panting softly] 9 00:01:09,966 --> 00:01:12,066 ♪ ♪ 10 00:01:38,753 --> 00:01:39,753 [remote beeps] 11 00:01:48,729 --> 00:01:50,629 [water dripping] 12 00:01:58,911 --> 00:02:00,361 - [birds chirping] - [insects trilling] 13 00:02:21,382 --> 00:02:23,452 ♪ ♪ 14 00:02:48,858 --> 00:02:50,788 [helicopter blades whirring in distance] 15 00:02:56,348 --> 00:02:58,418 [helicopter approaching] 16 00:03:07,428 --> 00:03:09,638 ♪ ♪ 17 00:03:17,473 --> 00:03:18,853 [knocking on door] 18 00:03:18,922 --> 00:03:20,232 MAN: Richard? 19 00:03:20,303 --> 00:03:21,443 [knocking] 20 00:03:21,511 --> 00:03:23,381 Richard, I'm Don Sheppard. 21 00:03:23,444 --> 00:03:26,554 I'm a producer at 60 Minutes. 22 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:28,210 Yeah, well, how about you get lost. 23 00:03:28,277 --> 00:03:29,617 I have nothing to say. 24 00:03:29,692 --> 00:03:32,352 Look, I saw your press conference. 25 00:03:32,419 --> 00:03:34,419 I read what your lawyer wrote. 26 00:03:36,906 --> 00:03:38,526 Richard, do you hear me? 27 00:03:38,597 --> 00:03:41,047 I-I really want to talk with you. 28 00:03:41,117 --> 00:03:43,017 W e ll, I don't want to talk with you. 29 00:03:43,084 --> 00:03:44,264 I've heard it all before, sir. 30 00:03:44,327 --> 00:03:46,737 You're just another lying journalist like all the others. 31 00:03:46,812 --> 00:03:49,022 You don't give a crap about me. Thank you. 32 00:03:49,090 --> 00:03:51,470 I-I don't blame you for feeling this way. 33 00:03:51,541 --> 00:03:53,091 I-I would, too, in your shoes. 34 00:03:53,163 --> 00:03:54,923 But we're 60 Minutes. 35 00:03:54,993 --> 00:03:56,273 We don't chase ratings, 36 00:03:56,339 --> 00:03:58,479 a n d we don't go in for sensationalism. 37 00:03:58,548 --> 00:04:01,478 We just seek the truth. 38 00:04:01,551 --> 00:04:03,351 Plain and simple. 39 00:04:05,797 --> 00:04:08,897 Oh, yeah? What-what do you think the truth is? 40 00:04:08,972 --> 00:04:10,912 I don't know. 41 00:04:10,974 --> 00:04:13,704 B u t I sure as hell want to find out. 42 00:04:13,770 --> 00:04:16,740 Don't you think you should at least hear us out? 43 00:04:20,052 --> 00:04:21,952 [insects trilling] 44 00:04:52,050 --> 00:04:54,290 [insects trilling] 45 00:05:12,277 --> 00:05:14,207 You can come on out. 46 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,519 I'm alone. Wasn't followed. 47 00:05:19,871 --> 00:05:21,981 Thank God. 48 00:05:22,045 --> 00:05:24,315 I do. I-I truly thank God for you. 49 00:05:24,393 --> 00:05:25,463 You can have that. 50 00:05:25,532 --> 00:05:27,572 It's food and supplies. 51 00:05:33,229 --> 00:05:35,369 Oh, man, I've been so hungry. 52 00:05:40,063 --> 00:05:41,513 [chuckles softly] 53 00:05:41,582 --> 00:05:45,482 I k eep thinking about you sending the FBI running. 54 00:05:45,552 --> 00:05:48,212 Whole lot of shit-stained BDUs that day, huh? 55 00:05:48,278 --> 00:05:50,208 W e ll, we showed them who owns these woods, 56 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:51,730 and it ain't the Feds. 57 00:05:51,799 --> 00:05:53,149 [chuckles]: No. 58 00:05:54,733 --> 00:05:56,633 But, you know, I... 59 00:05:56,701 --> 00:05:58,701 I see this FBI chopper. 60 00:05:58,772 --> 00:06:00,982 Keeps circling around real low 61 00:06:01,050 --> 00:06:03,020 like they didn't get the message. 62 00:06:03,086 --> 00:06:05,806 H e y, if-if we got a .30-06 and a whole bunch of ammo, 63 00:06:05,882 --> 00:06:08,202 I bet we could bring that thing right down from the sky. 64 00:06:08,264 --> 00:06:09,854 Listen, 65 00:06:09,921 --> 00:06:12,131 them folks been breaking their backs on these mountains, 66 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:14,889 scratching out a living? 67 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,000 That's my family. 68 00:06:17,066 --> 00:06:19,276 And I will fight for them if need be 69 00:06:19,344 --> 00:06:21,004 - 'cause no one else will. - Amen. 70 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:23,240 Well, taking down an FBI chopper? 71 00:06:23,313 --> 00:06:25,523 That gets my family killed. 72 00:06:25,592 --> 00:06:27,942 I won't allow that. 73 00:06:28,008 --> 00:06:29,388 You understand me? 74 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:31,428 No, you're right. 75 00:06:31,494 --> 00:06:32,944 Thank you. 76 00:06:33,013 --> 00:06:35,083 Thou shalt not kill. 77 00:06:35,153 --> 00:06:36,263 I believe that. 78 00:06:36,326 --> 00:06:39,356 And even though I saved hundreds of unborn lives, 79 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:43,263 I still have nightmares about that cop in Alabama. 80 00:06:43,333 --> 00:06:45,543 I don't want any more blood on my conscience. 81 00:06:45,612 --> 00:06:49,792 I-I... I don't even have a squirrel rifle. 82 00:06:49,857 --> 00:06:52,137 I may talk big, but I'm just a sitting duck. 83 00:06:54,068 --> 00:06:55,998 And that's why... 84 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:59,420 I a sked you for that map of all the FBI positions. 85 00:06:59,488 --> 00:07:02,178 I n eed to know where they are and when so I can avoid them. 86 00:07:04,907 --> 00:07:06,527 [sighs] 87 00:07:07,565 --> 00:07:09,145 All right, let's take a look. 88 00:07:13,605 --> 00:07:15,465 Hold this. 89 00:07:15,538 --> 00:07:19,268 Now... FBI base is here. 90 00:07:19,335 --> 00:07:21,475 - It's big. - Yeah. 91 00:07:21,544 --> 00:07:23,824 N o w, we Regulators essentially control 92 00:07:23,891 --> 00:07:26,721 the entire interior of the forest. 93 00:07:26,791 --> 00:07:28,001 FBI? 94 00:07:28,068 --> 00:07:30,798 They have the whole thing surrounded, so you can't escape. 95 00:07:30,864 --> 00:07:32,564 - They're basically bringing in an army. -Mm. 96 00:07:32,624 --> 00:07:34,494 So we need to be real careful 97 00:07:34,557 --> 00:07:37,107 until I can implement your exfil. 98 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:40,528 What exfil? 99 00:07:40,598 --> 00:07:42,838 Well, it's just in the planning phase, 100 00:07:42,910 --> 00:07:45,470 but I'm working to get you past the FBI cordon 101 00:07:45,534 --> 00:07:48,884 and out of these woods safely. 102 00:07:48,951 --> 00:07:50,061 Huh. 103 00:07:50,124 --> 00:07:53,164 The best thing for this community 104 00:07:53,231 --> 00:07:56,611 is gonna be for you to quietly disappear. 105 00:07:56,683 --> 00:07:58,203 That way, folks can go back to living 106 00:07:58,270 --> 00:08:02,450 their normal, quiet lives, and you... 107 00:08:02,516 --> 00:08:04,276 can go back to saving them babies. 108 00:08:06,278 --> 00:08:08,698 Everyone wins. 109 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:12,390 Now, your mission... 110 00:08:12,457 --> 00:08:15,117 is to stay away. 111 00:08:15,184 --> 00:08:17,324 You so much as see an FBI patrol, 112 00:08:17,393 --> 00:08:19,643 you have failed. 113 00:08:19,706 --> 00:08:20,846 Do you copy me? 114 00:08:20,914 --> 00:08:24,124 Yes, sir. Loud and clear. 115 00:08:24,193 --> 00:08:26,063 Okay. 116 00:08:32,615 --> 00:08:34,305 Thank you. 117 00:08:34,375 --> 00:08:36,645 You be safe. 118 00:08:36,723 --> 00:08:38,793 ♪ ♪ 119 00:09:01,471 --> 00:09:03,541 ♪ ♪ 120 00:09:18,350 --> 00:09:20,250 ♪ ♪ 121 00:09:39,786 --> 00:09:41,236 [rope creaks] 122 00:09:59,115 --> 00:10:01,005 ♪ ♪ 123 00:10:02,947 --> 00:10:04,707 [chatter in distance] 124 00:10:07,572 --> 00:10:09,612 [indistinct chatter] 125 00:10:12,922 --> 00:10:14,682 Open the gate. 126 00:10:31,423 --> 00:10:32,913 [indistinct police radio chatter] 127 00:10:39,466 --> 00:10:42,606 [indistinct police radio chatter continues] 128 00:10:42,676 --> 00:10:45,086 All right, where are we? 129 00:10:45,161 --> 00:10:47,061 Sir, now that we have the firepower, 130 00:10:47,129 --> 00:10:49,369 the plan is to start moving back into the woods in force. 131 00:10:49,441 --> 00:10:51,131 We establish rolling command posts, 132 00:10:51,202 --> 00:10:53,892 take back the forest acre by acre. 133 00:10:53,963 --> 00:10:57,143 If the militia resist, we hit back, hard. 134 00:10:57,208 --> 00:10:58,418 Drive then deeper into the woods. 135 00:10:58,485 --> 00:10:59,995 MAN: We expect the militia to concentrate 136 00:11:00,073 --> 00:11:02,083 I n The Regulators' fortified compound. 137 00:11:02,144 --> 00:11:03,354 Once we locate the compound, 138 00:11:03,421 --> 00:11:04,771 we'll surround it, flush 'em out. 139 00:11:04,836 --> 00:11:07,626 Correct me if I'm wrong, but this plan, 140 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:11,081 occupying the woods, acre by acre, 141 00:11:11,153 --> 00:11:13,603 seems like it can only lead to a protracted war. 142 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:17,333 Frankly, sir, you're already at war with the militia. 143 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,440 This is a plan to start winning the war. 144 00:11:19,506 --> 00:11:22,536 If John Gray is sheltered in a fortified compound 145 00:11:22,612 --> 00:11:24,202 and there's a siege, 146 00:11:24,269 --> 00:11:26,719 how does that not end up like another Waco? 147 00:11:26,789 --> 00:11:28,519 Let me think about it. 148 00:11:28,584 --> 00:11:30,214 Copy. 149 00:11:36,281 --> 00:11:38,661 W a ging war against American civilians? 150 00:11:38,732 --> 00:11:42,012 People who had nothing to do with Rudolph's bombs? 151 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,980 That's not why I joined the FBI. 152 00:11:44,048 --> 00:11:46,498 You got a better plan, I'm all ears, Jack. 153 00:11:46,567 --> 00:11:48,397 But we both know 154 00:11:48,466 --> 00:11:52,816 Louis Freeh didn't send you an army for you not to use it. 155 00:11:56,301 --> 00:11:58,231 ♪ ♪ 156 00:12:01,030 --> 00:12:02,760 [quietly imitates gunshot] 157 00:12:06,829 --> 00:12:08,899 ♪ ♪ 158 00:12:20,774 --> 00:12:22,784 [chickens clucking] 159 00:12:40,311 --> 00:12:41,551 [grunts] 160 00:12:41,622 --> 00:12:43,072 Come here. 161 00:12:43,141 --> 00:12:45,591 - Come here. Come here. - [chickens clucking] 162 00:12:45,661 --> 00:12:47,041 Come here. 163 00:12:51,978 --> 00:12:54,048 [door closes] 164 00:13:06,475 --> 00:13:08,365 ♪ ♪ 165 00:13:12,792 --> 00:13:15,282 [gunshot] 166 00:13:15,346 --> 00:13:16,616 [grunts] 167 00:13:16,692 --> 00:13:17,832 Goddamn it. 168 00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:19,010 [grunts] 169 00:13:19,074 --> 00:13:22,044 Goddamn... it. 170 00:13:22,111 --> 00:13:24,041 [Rudolph hoots, chuckles] 171 00:13:24,113 --> 00:13:25,773 [Rudolph pants] 172 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:27,909 Oh, give you a hand? 173 00:13:29,429 --> 00:13:31,669 - Obliged. - Oh, happy to help. 174 00:13:31,741 --> 00:13:34,881 [both grunting] 175 00:13:34,952 --> 00:13:37,022 Y o u live out here all by yourself? 176 00:13:37,092 --> 00:13:39,092 Pretty much. 177 00:13:39,163 --> 00:13:41,373 Just me and my brother. 178 00:13:41,441 --> 00:13:43,031 [both grunting] 179 00:13:58,734 --> 00:14:00,704 You're pretty cut off here, huh? 180 00:14:00,770 --> 00:14:03,330 Yup. Like it that way. 181 00:14:03,394 --> 00:14:05,404 Yeah, of the same mind myself. 182 00:14:08,295 --> 00:14:09,745 Go on. 183 00:14:09,814 --> 00:14:11,474 [sniffs] 184 00:14:13,266 --> 00:14:15,266 Yeah, folks fly in here from New York 185 00:14:15,337 --> 00:14:18,617 just to find some peace, then fly back out a week later. 186 00:14:18,685 --> 00:14:20,265 Dumbest thing I ever heard of. 187 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:24,790 You build that thing? 188 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,804 Yes, sir. 189 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:29,796 - Nantahala Harley. - [chuckles] 190 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:31,349 It run? 191 00:14:31,422 --> 00:14:32,772 Yes, sir. 192 00:14:32,837 --> 00:14:35,557 Some folks got a '57 Chevy. 193 00:14:35,633 --> 00:14:37,503 I got me a $57 Chevy. 194 00:14:37,566 --> 00:14:39,046 [laughs] 195 00:14:50,648 --> 00:14:53,058 [door creaking] 196 00:14:55,791 --> 00:14:57,661 What's wrong with him? 197 00:15:00,485 --> 00:15:02,485 Cancer. 198 00:15:02,556 --> 00:15:04,456 My brother Guthrie. 199 00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,326 ♪ ♪ 200 00:15:20,126 --> 00:15:22,226 You got cancer? 201 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,096 Yeah, my daddy died of cancer. 202 00:15:34,312 --> 00:15:36,452 What're these here? 203 00:15:41,871 --> 00:15:44,221 These doing anything for you? 204 00:15:44,288 --> 00:15:46,078 [weakly]: No. 205 00:15:46,152 --> 00:15:48,222 No, of course not. 206 00:15:50,121 --> 00:15:52,091 The government allows you to have these 207 00:15:52,158 --> 00:15:53,948 'cause they know it won't do nothing. 208 00:15:55,575 --> 00:15:57,715 They know if we're healthy and strong, 209 00:15:57,784 --> 00:16:00,964 we wouldn't put up with their New World Order shit. 210 00:16:02,996 --> 00:16:05,646 You ever hear of Laetrile? 211 00:16:05,723 --> 00:16:07,483 Heard about it. 212 00:16:07,552 --> 00:16:09,112 Yeah. 213 00:16:09,175 --> 00:16:12,315 It's made from apricot pits. 214 00:16:12,385 --> 00:16:15,385 Couple injections of that stuff, and the tumors are gone. 215 00:16:17,597 --> 00:16:22,077 Laetrile would have cured my daddy's cancer in a week. 216 00:16:22,153 --> 00:16:25,333 But the FDA and the federal government wouldn't allow it. 217 00:16:27,089 --> 00:16:28,639 That's why he died. 218 00:16:31,714 --> 00:16:33,444 You in pain? 219 00:16:36,788 --> 00:16:39,518 Well, I got something else 220 00:16:39,584 --> 00:16:41,554 the government don't want us to have. 221 00:16:47,868 --> 00:16:49,768 God bless you, sir. 222 00:16:51,907 --> 00:16:53,247 Here. 223 00:17:04,126 --> 00:17:06,086 - [insects trilling] - [food sizzling] 224 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:11,999 DAUBERT: We tried living in town 225 00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:13,885 some years back. 226 00:17:13,963 --> 00:17:15,243 Didn't take. 227 00:17:15,310 --> 00:17:16,860 Weren't for us. 228 00:17:16,932 --> 00:17:18,492 No, sir. 229 00:17:18,554 --> 00:17:20,424 Their rules, man. 230 00:17:20,487 --> 00:17:22,827 Yeah, you think Murphy is bad. 231 00:17:22,903 --> 00:17:25,393 I been to New York City. 232 00:17:25,458 --> 00:17:26,868 [laughs]: Shit. 233 00:17:26,942 --> 00:17:29,502 I look at those people. 234 00:17:29,565 --> 00:17:32,255 I'm looking down on them, and I see ants. 235 00:17:32,327 --> 00:17:34,977 You know, just little tiny ants running around, 236 00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:36,784 following their rules 237 00:17:36,848 --> 00:17:40,468 and obeying their pheromones, you know? 238 00:17:40,542 --> 00:17:42,302 Carrying around some little crumb 239 00:17:42,371 --> 00:17:44,411 like it's the be-all-end-all, 240 00:17:44,477 --> 00:17:47,787 when it's just a crumb and you're an ant. 241 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:50,519 A n d if I reached down and I squashed you... 242 00:17:52,209 --> 00:17:54,869 ...the universe wouldn't give a shit. 243 00:17:54,935 --> 00:17:56,965 Huh. 244 00:17:57,041 --> 00:17:59,011 [wolves howling in distance] 245 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,218 Mm. 246 00:18:04,393 --> 00:18:06,363 And on the other hand, 247 00:18:06,430 --> 00:18:09,330 you put your finger in the anthill... 248 00:18:09,398 --> 00:18:12,398 you watch 'em all run around like crazy 249 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:15,890 because God himself just blasted their world. 250 00:18:15,956 --> 00:18:17,226 Yeah. 251 00:18:19,236 --> 00:18:21,066 That's something, huh? 252 00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:22,764 Yes, sir. 253 00:18:22,825 --> 00:18:24,405 GUTHRIE: Ain't it nice to have company? 254 00:18:24,482 --> 00:18:25,902 We don't see nobody. 255 00:18:28,003 --> 00:18:31,323 You're the first soul we've seen up here in six months. 256 00:18:31,386 --> 00:18:33,246 - GUTHRIE: Six or eight. - Yeah. 257 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:36,529 - God's honest truth. - Huh. 258 00:18:36,598 --> 00:18:39,908 You ever go down to town? Down Murphy? 259 00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:43,120 Every few months, I got to go get his pills for him. 260 00:18:44,606 --> 00:18:46,986 Get a few things from the Walmart, too. 261 00:18:47,056 --> 00:18:49,016 What, you take the Harley? 262 00:18:49,093 --> 00:18:50,853 It can carry a load back up here? 263 00:18:50,922 --> 00:18:52,272 - Sure can. - Yeah? 264 00:18:52,338 --> 00:18:53,718 [chuckles softly] 265 00:18:53,787 --> 00:18:54,997 That baby, 266 00:18:55,064 --> 00:18:58,694 if I had the mind to patent it, I'd make a fortune. 267 00:18:58,758 --> 00:19:01,998 People-- they'd be lined up, throwing money at me. 268 00:19:02,071 --> 00:19:04,351 If I cared to. 269 00:19:04,419 --> 00:19:07,279 You're full of shit, Daubert. 270 00:19:07,353 --> 00:19:10,363 Well, I sure am glad to know you both. 271 00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:13,385 I hope we can do this again real soon. 272 00:19:17,328 --> 00:19:18,638 [guitar playing gently] 273 00:19:18,709 --> 00:19:22,639 ♪ As I was walking all alane ♪ 274 00:19:22,713 --> 00:19:27,583 ♪ I saw twa corbies making main ♪ 275 00:19:27,649 --> 00:19:31,719 ♪ Unto the other did say-o ♪ 276 00:19:31,791 --> 00:19:35,971 ♪ W here shall we gag and dine today-o? ♪ 277 00:19:36,036 --> 00:19:39,316 ♪ Where shall we gag and dine today? ♪ 278 00:19:39,385 --> 00:19:41,765 [chickens clucking] 279 00:19:41,835 --> 00:19:43,765 See that one there? 280 00:19:43,837 --> 00:19:45,597 That one's Eric. 281 00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:48,599 No way. The big one? 282 00:19:48,670 --> 00:19:50,150 - Yup. - You named him after me? 283 00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:52,123 Yes, sir. 284 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:53,301 - [chuckles] - That gobbler, 285 00:19:53,364 --> 00:19:56,714 he knows what's going on. 286 00:19:56,781 --> 00:19:58,271 He knows. 287 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:02,959 ♪ Oh, that rattlesnake taste mighty fine ♪ 288 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:06,449 ♪ W ith a little sip of blackberry wine ♪ 289 00:20:06,515 --> 00:20:11,135 ♪ But right now his mama's cooking sure would taste good ♪ 290 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:14,210 ♪ You better run, Rudolph, run ♪ 291 00:20:14,282 --> 00:20:16,592 ♪ Run, Rudolph, run ♪ 292 00:20:16,663 --> 00:20:21,573 ♪ Or the FBI's a-gonna shoot you with their gun. ♪ 293 00:20:23,014 --> 00:20:25,364 [guitar continues playing] 294 00:20:28,537 --> 00:20:30,917 How'd you figure it out? 295 00:20:32,058 --> 00:20:33,748 I may not be the sharpest tool, 296 00:20:33,818 --> 00:20:38,268 but I can still put a few twos together now and then. 297 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:40,030 That change things? 298 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:41,860 [guitar stops playing] 299 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,140 Hell no. 300 00:20:44,208 --> 00:20:46,868 You're a goddamn hero. 301 00:20:46,935 --> 00:20:48,935 I'm honored that you're here with us. 302 00:20:49,006 --> 00:20:52,836 Now, guys like us, who stand up for our beliefs, 303 00:20:52,906 --> 00:20:54,426 we got to stick together. 304 00:20:54,494 --> 00:20:56,884 - Amen, brother. - Amen. 305 00:21:05,988 --> 00:21:08,158 Now, you ain't gonna go around telling people you met me? 306 00:21:08,232 --> 00:21:11,202 - Be careless, get me killed? - You know what side I'm on. 307 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:13,790 And you know I'm no braggart. 308 00:21:13,858 --> 00:21:15,378 Well, good. 309 00:21:17,345 --> 00:21:18,895 I got a question for you. 310 00:21:21,866 --> 00:21:24,586 All that talk about taking the Harley down to Walmart... 311 00:21:26,112 --> 00:21:28,802 You just tell me what you need. 312 00:21:28,873 --> 00:21:30,673 [chuckles softly] 313 00:21:33,775 --> 00:21:35,735 [engine roaring] 314 00:21:35,811 --> 00:21:37,711 ♪ ♪ 315 00:22:00,802 --> 00:22:02,322 [mutters] 316 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,329 [inhales deeply] 317 00:22:07,567 --> 00:22:09,327 Thank you. 318 00:22:12,883 --> 00:22:14,643 I'm getting worried about your brother. 319 00:22:14,712 --> 00:22:16,652 He should be back by now. 320 00:22:16,714 --> 00:22:20,684 No, I-it takes a spell coming back. 321 00:22:20,753 --> 00:22:23,793 He's only got the sledge. 322 00:22:23,859 --> 00:22:26,549 Can't go so fast with cargo. 323 00:22:31,764 --> 00:22:33,804 [vehicle approaching] 324 00:22:38,495 --> 00:22:40,595 ♪ ♪ 325 00:23:07,834 --> 00:23:09,154 R U DOLPH: Daubert. 326 00:23:09,215 --> 00:23:10,525 Hey. 327 00:23:10,596 --> 00:23:12,836 Mission accomplished. 328 00:23:15,773 --> 00:23:17,953 You get it all? Everything on the list? 329 00:23:18,017 --> 00:23:19,157 Every last thing. 330 00:23:19,225 --> 00:23:20,675 All right. 331 00:23:22,297 --> 00:23:24,777 - They had a sale on Mentos. - [chuckles softly] 332 00:23:24,851 --> 00:23:26,721 S o I grabbed them if you want some. 333 00:23:28,545 --> 00:23:30,855 - Mixed berry. - Tell you what. 334 00:23:30,926 --> 00:23:32,956 You keep those Mentos for yourself. 335 00:23:33,032 --> 00:23:34,032 You earned them. 336 00:23:36,311 --> 00:23:37,901 Oh. 337 00:23:37,968 --> 00:23:39,558 Lookee here. 338 00:23:41,765 --> 00:23:44,035 [chuckles] Ain't it somethin'? 339 00:23:44,112 --> 00:23:47,292 I thought you'd get a laugh out of it. 340 00:23:47,356 --> 00:23:49,076 They're all over the place. 341 00:23:49,151 --> 00:23:50,911 You look like Christ himself on there. 342 00:23:50,981 --> 00:23:53,261 Now, you were careful when you took that, right? 343 00:23:53,328 --> 00:23:55,228 Sure was. I grabbed it right off a telephone pole. 344 00:23:55,295 --> 00:23:56,775 Yeah. 345 00:23:58,471 --> 00:24:00,851 Sure is a shit-ton of zeroes, ain't it? 346 00:24:00,922 --> 00:24:04,482 Those scumbags think they can buy our loyalty. 347 00:24:04,546 --> 00:24:07,096 Not for all the zeroes in the world. 348 00:24:08,239 --> 00:24:09,549 Thank you. 349 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:11,620 You did great. 350 00:24:28,984 --> 00:24:31,474 - [birds chirping] - [insects trilling] 351 00:24:59,877 --> 00:25:02,047 What were those? Gunshots, man? 352 00:25:02,121 --> 00:25:04,051 ♪ ♪ 353 00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:18,026 Eric? 354 00:25:21,209 --> 00:25:23,109 Oh. 355 00:25:23,176 --> 00:25:25,586 Daubert shot himself. 356 00:25:25,662 --> 00:25:27,152 What? 357 00:25:27,215 --> 00:25:28,865 Why? 358 00:25:28,941 --> 00:25:31,461 Well, he killed himself out of grief. 359 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,150 'Cause you died. 360 00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,635 You're joking. 361 00:25:38,709 --> 00:25:41,229 Oh, shit, man. 362 00:25:41,298 --> 00:25:43,328 Don't scare me like that. 363 00:25:43,403 --> 00:25:45,303 You're joking, right? 364 00:25:53,137 --> 00:25:54,477 Eric. 365 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,113 Please. 366 00:25:56,175 --> 00:25:57,585 It's me. 367 00:25:57,659 --> 00:25:59,659 You know me. 368 00:25:59,730 --> 00:26:01,320 Please? 369 00:26:01,387 --> 00:26:04,107 [panting]: Whatever you want, just tell me. 370 00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:05,673 You can have it. 371 00:26:05,736 --> 00:26:08,596 What I want? 372 00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:10,640 You're giving it to me right now. 373 00:26:10,707 --> 00:26:12,637 This is it. 374 00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:15,256 I'm not an ant. 375 00:26:15,332 --> 00:26:17,682 Eric, I-I'm Guthrie. 376 00:26:17,748 --> 00:26:19,298 I'm not an ant. 377 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:22,170 Well, depends on your perspective, don't it? 378 00:26:22,235 --> 00:26:23,955 - [panting] - Oh. 379 00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:25,650 You can go to church your whole life 380 00:26:25,722 --> 00:26:27,312 - and never feel like this. - [grunting] 381 00:26:27,378 --> 00:26:29,378 Like God himself. 382 00:26:29,449 --> 00:26:30,759 "The Lord giveth, 383 00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:32,970 and the Lord taketh away." 384 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:34,629 [grunting] 385 00:26:34,696 --> 00:26:37,106 It'd be better if you weren't such a goddamn cripple. 386 00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:38,151 But, oh, well. 387 00:26:38,217 --> 00:26:39,387 [muffled grunting] 388 00:26:58,582 --> 00:27:00,692 [birds chirping] 389 00:27:25,713 --> 00:27:27,683 - [birds chirping] - [insects trilling] 390 00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:54,775 ♪ ♪ 391 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:26,429 [whistling "Run Rudolph Run"] 392 00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,792 [horns honking] 393 00:28:57,701 --> 00:28:59,191 Sorry. 394 00:28:59,254 --> 00:29:00,534 Wow, look at it. 395 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,360 Y e ah, don't let it get to your head. 396 00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:04,470 We're here to say thank you for the offer, 397 00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:07,365 but no way are we going on 60 Minutes 398 00:29:07,435 --> 00:29:09,955 u n less we control every single shot. 399 00:29:10,024 --> 00:29:12,654 - You hear me? - Yeah, but wow. 400 00:29:12,716 --> 00:29:14,296 All right, come on. 401 00:29:15,443 --> 00:29:17,003 Yeah. Yeah. 402 00:29:17,065 --> 00:29:19,065 MIKE: Gentlemen. 403 00:29:19,136 --> 00:29:20,966 Mr. Wallace. It's a pleasure, sir. 404 00:29:21,035 --> 00:29:22,925 The pleasure's mine. 405 00:29:23,002 --> 00:29:24,942 Watson Bryant. Pleasure, Mr. Wallace. 406 00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:31,910 Thank you. 407 00:29:31,977 --> 00:29:33,497 [clears throat] 408 00:29:35,946 --> 00:29:39,116 What are you looking for from us, exactly? 409 00:29:39,191 --> 00:29:41,021 We don't give you the questions in advance. 410 00:29:41,089 --> 00:29:43,259 We don't tell you what we're going to cover. 411 00:29:43,333 --> 00:29:45,823 You either do the interview or not. 412 00:29:45,887 --> 00:29:48,127 Our house, our rules. 413 00:29:49,373 --> 00:29:51,243 What we're looking for, Mr. Wallace, 414 00:29:51,306 --> 00:29:54,586 is something that tells us that you've done your homework. 415 00:29:54,654 --> 00:29:57,664 That you're looking beyond the goddamn fictional bullshit 416 00:29:57,726 --> 00:29:59,626 of the FBI or the other media. 417 00:29:59,694 --> 00:30:01,214 This is 60 Minutes, 418 00:30:01,282 --> 00:30:03,632 the most respected news program in America. 419 00:30:03,698 --> 00:30:08,188 And CNN is CNN and Tom Brokaw is Tom Brokaw, 420 00:30:08,254 --> 00:30:10,844 but so far they've all just been parroting 421 00:30:10,912 --> 00:30:13,642 the other newspapers or the FBI. 422 00:30:13,708 --> 00:30:17,568 S o you'll excuse me if I ask for something more concrete. 423 00:30:20,163 --> 00:30:23,513 We've read your dossier from the press conference, 424 00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:25,510 very carefully. 425 00:30:25,582 --> 00:30:28,552 But we had our own independent investigators go to the park 426 00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:30,069 to conduct their research. 427 00:30:30,138 --> 00:30:33,518 What did they find? 428 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:37,420 We also researched the FBI, into everything it found 429 00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:40,870 and how they conducted their investigation. 430 00:30:40,942 --> 00:30:44,222 And our research into you. 431 00:30:44,290 --> 00:30:48,430 Your history, your work history, your criminal history. 432 00:30:48,501 --> 00:30:50,231 Everything. 433 00:30:50,296 --> 00:30:51,816 So if you're looking for reassurance 434 00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:56,064 that we've done our homework, we've done our homework. 435 00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:57,650 But if you're looking for reassurance 436 00:30:57,717 --> 00:31:01,137 that we're going to proclaim your innocence on air... 437 00:31:03,102 --> 00:31:05,042 ...that's not what happens. 438 00:31:06,381 --> 00:31:08,251 Well, Mr. Wallace, your producers were... 439 00:31:08,314 --> 00:31:12,564 My only loyalty rests with my 15 million viewers. 440 00:31:12,629 --> 00:31:16,529 What my viewers want, what they expect from us, 441 00:31:16,598 --> 00:31:19,048 is excellent journalism. 442 00:31:19,118 --> 00:31:20,458 What they want, what they expect, 443 00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:23,433 is to see Richard get eviscerated on air. 444 00:31:23,502 --> 00:31:25,472 I mean, that's the whole reason that you're asking us 445 00:31:25,538 --> 00:31:27,198 to do this, because the whole nation 446 00:31:27,264 --> 00:31:30,104 will tune in to see Richard Jewell the Bomber 447 00:31:30,164 --> 00:31:34,444 take a nosedive off a cliff on national TV. 448 00:31:34,513 --> 00:31:36,553 Yes, and? 449 00:31:36,618 --> 00:31:39,478 And... 450 00:31:39,552 --> 00:31:41,932 is he gonna splat? 451 00:31:42,003 --> 00:31:44,253 Or is his parachute gonna open? 452 00:31:45,213 --> 00:31:46,913 I'm not sure. 453 00:31:46,974 --> 00:31:48,634 That depends on the facts. 454 00:31:48,699 --> 00:31:52,499 We ask the tough questions and let that speak for itself. 455 00:31:52,565 --> 00:31:55,495 So, yes, you're jumping off a cliff. 456 00:31:55,568 --> 00:31:58,398 And your parachute may or may not open. 457 00:31:58,468 --> 00:32:01,638 You might be exonerated in front of the entire world. 458 00:32:01,712 --> 00:32:03,472 Or you might splat. 459 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:07,509 T h at's the rules of the game here. 460 00:32:07,580 --> 00:32:09,860 Can't handle them? 461 00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:12,028 Don't play. 462 00:32:18,729 --> 00:32:21,149 So, there you go. 463 00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:27,220 We take this as a lesson, and we shop around. 464 00:32:27,290 --> 00:32:29,360 We find somewhere else that'll give us a big exclusive 465 00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:32,470 and tell it from our side. 466 00:32:32,536 --> 00:32:35,536 This is what we've been looking for from the beginning. 467 00:32:35,608 --> 00:32:39,198 Journalist whose only loyalty is to the truth. 468 00:32:41,718 --> 00:32:43,308 That's why people listen to him. 469 00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:45,195 But they very well could be listening to him 470 00:32:45,273 --> 00:32:47,863 saying you're guilty. 471 00:32:47,931 --> 00:32:50,691 And if that happens, 472 00:32:50,761 --> 00:32:52,661 on 60 Minutes... 473 00:32:54,282 --> 00:32:56,012 ...it'll be forever. 474 00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:03,020 So, what do you want to do? 475 00:33:03,084 --> 00:33:05,164 ♪ ♪ 476 00:33:20,895 --> 00:33:22,995 ♪ ♪ 477 00:33:29,179 --> 00:33:31,289 [quiet chatter] 478 00:33:36,255 --> 00:33:38,085 Hi, Richard. 479 00:33:38,154 --> 00:33:40,814 - Thank you. - [quiet chatter continues] 480 00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:45,259 ♪ ♪ 481 00:34:02,971 --> 00:34:05,041 ♪ ♪ 482 00:34:18,021 --> 00:34:20,891 MIKE: People say you're a fat, failed security guard 483 00:34:20,955 --> 00:34:22,715 who lives with his mother. 484 00:34:22,784 --> 00:34:24,894 Is that accurate? 485 00:34:24,959 --> 00:34:27,819 It's unkind but true. 486 00:34:27,893 --> 00:34:31,413 P e ople also say that you're the man who built, planted 487 00:34:31,483 --> 00:34:34,423 and detonated that bomb in Centennial Olympic Park. 488 00:34:34,486 --> 00:34:36,656 Are you? 489 00:34:36,729 --> 00:34:39,219 - No, I am not. - Oh, come on, Richard. 490 00:34:39,284 --> 00:34:42,014 We know you were overzealous, aggressive, 491 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,600 even dangerous at Piedmont College. 492 00:34:44,668 --> 00:34:48,288 We know you were arrested for impersonating an officer. 493 00:34:48,362 --> 00:34:51,712 We know you were desperate for a job, to be a hero, 494 00:34:51,779 --> 00:34:55,329 to prove yourself to all the law enforcement in the park. 495 00:34:55,403 --> 00:34:57,963 The FBI has evidence that you told a friend 496 00:34:58,026 --> 00:35:01,166 that you were gonna be "right in the middle of that big mess." 497 00:35:01,237 --> 00:35:03,927 And they have evidence that you pursued 498 00:35:03,998 --> 00:35:07,138 specialized explosives training. 499 00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:09,558 That you owned a green backpack 500 00:35:09,624 --> 00:35:12,144 like the one used in the bombing. 501 00:35:12,213 --> 00:35:14,223 Do you deny any of that? 502 00:35:14,284 --> 00:35:16,634 No, sir, I do not. 503 00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:20,010 And you're telling us that it's just a huge coincidence 504 00:35:20,083 --> 00:35:22,783 that you happened to find a bomb 505 00:35:22,844 --> 00:35:26,234 through some sort of sixth sense on that night? 506 00:35:26,296 --> 00:35:28,746 Doesn't it seem far-fetched to you? 507 00:35:28,816 --> 00:35:32,026 And doesn't it seem more reasonable to believe 508 00:35:32,095 --> 00:35:33,745 that you placed the bomb there 509 00:35:33,821 --> 00:35:36,001 so you could find it and become a hero? 510 00:35:36,064 --> 00:35:39,864 - [sighs] -Because that seems a lot more plausible to me. 511 00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:42,930 He just put his head in the goddamn noose. We are screwed. 512 00:35:43,002 --> 00:35:46,872 I know it's hard for many people to believe 513 00:35:46,937 --> 00:35:48,527 that someone who looks like me, 514 00:35:48,594 --> 00:35:52,674 someone who, um, hadn't been successful in life, 515 00:35:52,736 --> 00:35:55,006 someone who's, uh, lower-class 516 00:35:55,083 --> 00:35:58,883 and has made a lot of mistakes in his life could be a hero. 517 00:36:00,744 --> 00:36:02,824 One of the things I've discovered about people, 518 00:36:02,884 --> 00:36:06,614 about prejudice, is that it's somehow easier 519 00:36:06,681 --> 00:36:09,721 to look at me and imagine that I'm a villain. 520 00:36:10,996 --> 00:36:13,136 But I say to you today, 521 00:36:13,205 --> 00:36:15,345 and I say to law enforcement, 522 00:36:15,414 --> 00:36:18,944 and to everyone who will watch this: 523 00:36:19,004 --> 00:36:22,184 look beyond appearances before you judge. 524 00:36:23,836 --> 00:36:25,216 Look inside my heart. 525 00:36:25,286 --> 00:36:28,386 You will see that I'm an honorable man. 526 00:36:28,462 --> 00:36:30,362 Look at the facts, 527 00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:32,979 and you'll see that I'm an innocent man. 528 00:36:34,916 --> 00:36:37,816 You tell him, you beautiful sack of shit! 529 00:36:37,885 --> 00:36:40,125 MIKE: "An innocent man." 530 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,748 Well, that's not what the journalists are saying. 531 00:36:42,821 --> 00:36:44,101 And that's not what 532 00:36:44,167 --> 00:36:46,887 the Federal Bureau of Investigation is saying. 533 00:36:46,963 --> 00:36:48,523 Let me show you this. 534 00:36:51,139 --> 00:36:53,939 Headline after headline. 535 00:36:54,004 --> 00:36:56,394 They can't all be untrue. 536 00:36:56,455 --> 00:36:58,455 They can be and they are. 537 00:36:58,526 --> 00:37:01,286 The media wanted a dramatic headline 538 00:37:01,357 --> 00:37:04,047 to sell papers, so they created one. 539 00:37:04,118 --> 00:37:07,398 You're saying that the entire media establishment, 540 00:37:07,466 --> 00:37:10,366 everyone from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution 541 00:37:10,435 --> 00:37:13,465 to CNN to CBS News itself 542 00:37:13,541 --> 00:37:15,651 is placing sensationalism 543 00:37:15,716 --> 00:37:17,956 over truth? 544 00:37:18,028 --> 00:37:19,998 That the FBI, 545 00:37:20,065 --> 00:37:23,065 the most respected law enforcement bureau in the world, 546 00:37:23,137 --> 00:37:25,307 is, what, lying? 547 00:37:25,381 --> 00:37:26,691 Or just wrong? 548 00:37:26,761 --> 00:37:29,421 The FBI wanted to look good. 549 00:37:29,488 --> 00:37:33,038 They wanted to... to look strong and effective 550 00:37:33,112 --> 00:37:35,562 and give everyone the impression that they were safe. 551 00:37:35,632 --> 00:37:37,882 "We got our man, and we got him quickly." 552 00:37:37,945 --> 00:37:40,185 So they leaked my name to the press. 553 00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:41,878 They colluded with the media, 554 00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:43,709 a n d everyone got what they wanted, 555 00:37:43,778 --> 00:37:45,608 even if it meant telling a lie 556 00:37:45,677 --> 00:37:47,537 and destroying an innocent man's life. 557 00:37:48,783 --> 00:37:51,923 You claim that the FBI's own timeline 558 00:37:51,993 --> 00:37:54,483 essentially eliminates you as a suspect. 559 00:37:54,548 --> 00:37:57,028 That you could neither have placed the bomb 560 00:37:57,102 --> 00:38:00,242 nor made the 911 call warning about the bomb. 561 00:38:00,312 --> 00:38:03,002 ♪ ♪ 562 00:38:03,073 --> 00:38:06,733 60 Minuteshas investigated your claims independently. 563 00:38:07,975 --> 00:38:10,385 And we've discovered that not only 564 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:12,600 does the FBI's timeline 565 00:38:12,669 --> 00:38:14,709 eliminate you as a suspect, 566 00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:18,185 but the size and the nature of the bomb itself 567 00:38:18,261 --> 00:38:20,301 makes the FBI's theory 568 00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:22,677 extremely improbable. 569 00:38:22,748 --> 00:38:24,438 A s I've been saying from the beginning, 570 00:38:24,509 --> 00:38:25,859 I am an innocent man. 571 00:38:27,408 --> 00:38:29,648 And you proved that, didn't you? 572 00:38:29,721 --> 00:38:32,831 You went public with the facts exonerating you. 573 00:38:32,896 --> 00:38:34,896 Yes, sir. 574 00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:38,207 You proved your innocence beyond a doubt. 575 00:38:38,281 --> 00:38:40,631 What was their reaction? 576 00:38:40,697 --> 00:38:42,457 They didn't listen. 577 00:38:42,527 --> 00:38:46,567 And they still haven't listened, even though the facts indicate 578 00:38:46,634 --> 00:38:49,784 t h at the real bomber is still out there. 579 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,749 That is correct, sir. 580 00:38:53,814 --> 00:38:55,924 It'll never end, sir. 581 00:38:55,988 --> 00:38:59,508 Because the FBI leaked your name. 582 00:38:59,578 --> 00:39:02,718 - God. -And the media valued a good story or an easy... 583 00:39:03,927 --> 00:39:05,447 [scoffs] 584 00:39:08,518 --> 00:39:11,968 Why'd you join the FBI, Stacey? 585 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:13,039 Me? 586 00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:16,109 Growing up in East Point, 587 00:39:16,181 --> 00:39:18,011 t h e cops always looked like you. 588 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,529 And I wanted the little girls in East Point 589 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,460 to be able to look at me and see 590 00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:25,983 there's someone who looks like you. 591 00:39:26,053 --> 00:39:27,883 Who's out there trying to fix things, 592 00:39:27,951 --> 00:39:29,751 trying to make things better. 593 00:39:29,815 --> 00:39:33,155 Instead of just watching while this bad shit happened 594 00:39:33,232 --> 00:39:35,302 to good people and praying you wouldn't be next. 595 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,483 What if we're the ones 596 00:39:37,547 --> 00:39:40,407 doing bad shit to good people? 597 00:39:40,481 --> 00:39:42,621 Remember when we were questioning him? 598 00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:45,070 The whole time we were talking to him, 599 00:39:45,141 --> 00:39:47,521 he was tying himself up in knots trying to tell us 600 00:39:47,592 --> 00:39:49,082 what he thought we wanted to hear. 601 00:39:49,145 --> 00:39:51,725 "Good boy syndrome," whatever you called it. 602 00:39:51,803 --> 00:39:53,293 Yeah, so? 603 00:39:53,356 --> 00:39:55,286 So what's your problem? 604 00:39:55,358 --> 00:39:58,638 My problem is I'm tying myself up in goddamn knots 605 00:39:58,706 --> 00:40:01,706 trying to keep from speaking the truth. 606 00:40:01,778 --> 00:40:04,748 And I'd say I'm worried we screwed over an innocent man. 607 00:40:05,748 --> 00:40:08,478 We played politics. 608 00:40:08,544 --> 00:40:12,004 G o t distracted by headlines, and while we were doing that, 609 00:40:12,064 --> 00:40:14,724 we let Rudolph off the hook to run around 610 00:40:14,791 --> 00:40:16,791 free to plan his next... 611 00:40:20,003 --> 00:40:23,113 I'd say we compromised our integrity. 612 00:40:23,179 --> 00:40:25,459 The FBI's integrity. 613 00:40:25,526 --> 00:40:28,526 A n d we're still compromising it by sitting here doing nothing, 614 00:40:28,598 --> 00:40:30,498 instead of making things right. 615 00:40:30,566 --> 00:40:32,286 Seriously? 616 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,910 What if it's true? 617 00:40:33,983 --> 00:40:36,503 You know the evidence doesn't say that, Jack. 618 00:40:36,572 --> 00:40:38,372 Some of it. 619 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,886 B u t what if we're only seeing the evidence we want to see? 620 00:40:40,955 --> 00:40:42,265 Okay, shit. 621 00:40:42,336 --> 00:40:44,926 What's happening right now? 622 00:40:44,994 --> 00:40:46,934 We still have that dossier from Embry. 623 00:40:50,758 --> 00:40:52,928 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution was the first to report 624 00:40:53,002 --> 00:40:55,212 - that you were a suspect. - Thank you. 625 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,350 But not only that, they said 626 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:00,250 that you fit the profile of a lone bomber, 627 00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,359 a frustrated police wannabe 628 00:41:02,425 --> 00:41:04,285 who wanted to become a hero. 629 00:41:04,358 --> 00:41:07,258 Suggesting that you had planted the bomb there 630 00:41:07,326 --> 00:41:10,986 so that you'd come off as a hero. 631 00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:13,194 RICHARD: It's all a lie. 632 00:41:13,263 --> 00:41:15,753 Whatever will sell 633 00:41:15,818 --> 00:41:18,888 or keep the story in the news 634 00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:20,689 is what they've been saying. 635 00:41:20,754 --> 00:41:22,654 BARTENDER: You want me to turn it off, Kath? 636 00:41:22,721 --> 00:41:25,451 - No, leave it. - WALLACE: The Journal also reported 637 00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:28,347 I n vestigators believed Jewell was the bomber 638 00:41:28,416 --> 00:41:32,206 and that he had made a 911 call about the bomb 639 00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:34,012 before it exploded. 640 00:41:34,077 --> 00:41:36,107 But Jewell's attorneys later demonstrated 641 00:41:36,183 --> 00:41:38,013 that the call was made while Jewell 642 00:41:38,081 --> 00:41:40,881 w a s still inside Centennial Park. 643 00:41:40,946 --> 00:41:43,326 The Journal and reporter Kathy Scruggs 644 00:41:43,397 --> 00:41:46,397 refused to back down, even when their stories 645 00:41:46,469 --> 00:41:49,819 were proven to be demonstrably false. 646 00:41:49,886 --> 00:41:51,886 Jewell has never been charged, 647 00:41:51,957 --> 00:41:54,057 and has never been arrested. 648 00:41:54,132 --> 00:41:56,382 B u t night and day, wherever he goes, 649 00:41:56,444 --> 00:41:58,964 - Excuse me. - Jewell is followed by the FBI. 650 00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:00,933 When Jewell goes out for a drive, 651 00:42:01,001 --> 00:42:03,421 - the FBI is on his tail. - Whoa. 652 00:42:03,486 --> 00:42:04,626 Not just one agent, 653 00:42:04,694 --> 00:42:08,494 but a whole FBI convoy. 654 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,840 - RICHARD: I fought so hard to get here, -Holy shit. 655 00:42:11,908 --> 00:42:13,978 to get my story told. 656 00:42:14,048 --> 00:42:15,878 - I've said this all so many times -This is it. 657 00:42:15,947 --> 00:42:17,977 But nobody ever listened. 658 00:42:18,052 --> 00:42:21,092 WALLACE: Well, they're sure listening now. 659 00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,399 Because even in a world where everybody's 660 00:42:23,471 --> 00:42:25,301 selling stories, 661 00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:27,720 the truth still matters. 662 00:42:27,786 --> 00:42:29,646 Thank you for helping me tell it. 663 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,339 RICHARD: Thank you. 664 00:42:32,895 --> 00:42:34,545 WALLACE: The FBI has refused 665 00:42:34,621 --> 00:42:36,521 to discuss its investigation, 666 00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:38,488 refused to say whether 667 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:39,936 Jewell is still a suspect, 668 00:42:40,005 --> 00:42:43,245 and refused to discuss the leak. 669 00:42:43,319 --> 00:42:45,319 A n d by the way, Mrs. Jewell says 670 00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:47,980 the FBI has still not returned her Tupperware 671 00:42:48,048 --> 00:42:50,568 or her Disney tapes. 672 00:43:19,217 --> 00:43:20,597 Thank you. 673 00:43:22,116 --> 00:43:23,946 T h ank you. Thank you. 674 00:43:28,813 --> 00:43:30,473 You know what? 675 00:43:30,538 --> 00:43:32,128 - You know what? - Yeah. 676 00:43:32,195 --> 00:43:34,845 - Yeah? You feel that? - [laughing] Yeah. 677 00:43:34,922 --> 00:43:37,962 - You beautiful man. You did it. - [laughing] 678 00:43:38,029 --> 00:43:41,269 Y o u did it! You did it! 679 00:43:41,342 --> 00:43:43,212 [both laughing] 680 00:43:45,312 --> 00:43:47,492 Oh... 681 00:43:47,555 --> 00:43:50,035 Come on, now. God! 682 00:43:51,525 --> 00:43:53,625 [both laughing] 683 00:43:56,116 --> 00:43:58,116 - 60 Minutes. - [both laughing] 684 00:44:08,162 --> 00:44:11,792 Yeah. There. 685 00:44:13,512 --> 00:44:15,202 Uh-huh. 686 00:44:15,273 --> 00:44:17,173 Oh, this is it. 687 00:44:18,828 --> 00:44:21,558 Did you get my peat moss? 688 00:44:21,624 --> 00:44:22,974 Oh... 689 00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:24,729 The pruning shears? 690 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,180 [chuckles] 691 00:44:28,251 --> 00:44:30,671 I'm sorry, honey. 692 00:44:30,737 --> 00:44:32,427 What did you get at Walmart? 693 00:44:34,154 --> 00:44:36,364 I bought a bomb. 694 00:44:40,056 --> 00:44:41,396 This wasn't on the list. 695 00:44:41,471 --> 00:44:43,511 You remember that double helix wire-- 696 00:44:43,577 --> 00:44:46,057 we couldn't figure it out? It's the backing on this 697 00:44:46,131 --> 00:44:48,861 artificial wreath. He used it as camouflage. 698 00:44:48,927 --> 00:44:51,967 Every single one of these components-- 699 00:44:52,034 --> 00:44:55,494 f r om Merry Christmas down to the nails... 700 00:44:56,659 --> 00:44:58,389 He bought his bomb at Walmart. 701 00:45:02,182 --> 00:45:04,152 Just don't bring it in the house. 702 00:45:12,882 --> 00:45:14,402 Yeah. 703 00:45:16,817 --> 00:45:19,887 Everything but the dynamite. 704 00:45:33,661 --> 00:45:35,731 ♪ ♪ 705 00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:56,440 Jack, this is way above our pay grade. 706 00:45:56,512 --> 00:45:58,452 You're seeing one tiny piece 707 00:45:58,514 --> 00:46:00,344 of a very, very big puzzle. 708 00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:03,969 There's got to be something the leadership knows 709 00:46:04,037 --> 00:46:05,377 that we don't. 710 00:46:07,178 --> 00:46:09,908 Daddy knows best, huh? 711 00:46:09,974 --> 00:46:12,154 We gather the pieces, they do the puzzle. 712 00:46:12,217 --> 00:46:15,317 Chain of command. That's why it exists. 713 00:46:15,393 --> 00:46:19,263 'Cause, yeah, Daddy usually does know best. 714 00:46:19,328 --> 00:46:20,918 All right. 715 00:46:20,985 --> 00:46:22,805 But look at it like this. 716 00:46:22,883 --> 00:46:24,403 If what's in this dossier-- 717 00:46:24,471 --> 00:46:28,201 I-if what Embry told us is true-- 718 00:46:28,268 --> 00:46:30,238 Rudolph is obsessed with law enforcement, 719 00:46:30,304 --> 00:46:33,244 that he's playing God, watching us, manipulating us, 720 00:46:33,307 --> 00:46:37,037 manipulating the militiamen, too, maybe. I... 721 00:46:37,104 --> 00:46:39,004 If Embry's right, 722 00:46:39,072 --> 00:46:41,872 it's not that we trapped Rudolph in Nantahala. 723 00:46:41,937 --> 00:46:43,347 He... 724 00:46:45,561 --> 00:46:47,461 He trapped us. 725 00:47:07,065 --> 00:47:09,165 ♪ ♪