1 00:00:10,469 --> 00:00:12,846 -Arthur, what's up, man? -Hey, Jason, how you doing? 2 00:00:12,930 --> 00:00:14,223 - Doing all right. - Pleasure. 3 00:00:15,974 --> 00:00:18,435 Mind if I record? 4 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:19,770 Oh, yeah, no problem, man. 5 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:22,773 Cool, cool, cool, cool with that. Let me get that there. 6 00:00:22,856 --> 00:00:23,857 Boom. 7 00:00:23,941 --> 00:00:24,983 -You gonna get something to eat? -Yeah. 8 00:00:25,067 --> 00:00:27,069 -There's some good food here, man. -I'mma get somethin'... 9 00:00:27,152 --> 00:00:29,988 Uh, so, Hoop Dreams. Twenty years, man. 10 00:00:30,072 --> 00:00:32,407 - Twenty-plus years, man. - Twenty-plus years? 11 00:00:32,491 --> 00:00:34,701 Yeah. Can't believe it, man. 12 00:00:34,785 --> 00:00:36,912 Every... Yeah, everyone's doing great, man. 13 00:00:36,995 --> 00:00:38,580 -I can't complain. -Yeah? 14 00:00:38,664 --> 00:00:40,123 What you been up to? 15 00:00:40,207 --> 00:00:41,667 Uh, just still out speaking. 16 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:43,794 Uh, teaching the Hoop Dreams educational curriculum 17 00:00:43,877 --> 00:00:45,712 to high school students and, uh, 18 00:00:45,796 --> 00:00:48,298 still trying to get my clothing line a licensing deal, 19 00:00:48,382 --> 00:00:49,424 -you know? -Yeah. 20 00:00:49,508 --> 00:00:51,843 Have you done any coaching, high school coaching? 21 00:00:51,927 --> 00:00:53,887 - Oh. Staying away from coaching. - No? 22 00:00:53,971 --> 00:00:57,224 I think, I... If I ever coached high school, I'd probably be fired. 23 00:00:57,307 --> 00:01:00,269 -For what? -For probably hitting a kid in his head. 24 00:01:00,352 --> 00:01:02,980 'Cause kids, nowadays, for real, they talk back to you, like, 25 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:06,066 "Oh, I'm not coming to class, and I still think I'm supposed to play." 26 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:07,859 -Well, not on this team. -Yeah. 27 00:01:07,943 --> 00:01:09,778 "Well, yes, I am. Uh, you need me." 28 00:01:09,861 --> 00:01:11,029 No, no, I don't need you. 29 00:01:11,113 --> 00:01:13,949 I'll play with the last guy at the bench. You know what I'm saying? 30 00:01:14,032 --> 00:01:15,117 Yeah. 31 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,868 So, what, you know, a lot of these kids now, they... 32 00:01:16,952 --> 00:01:20,247 Favoritisms, and, you know, the fundamentals of the game, 33 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:22,082 they done lost it. 34 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:24,334 So, coaching? Me, I stay away from it. 35 00:01:24,418 --> 00:01:26,670 Now, teaching, yes. I teach the game to kids. 36 00:01:26,753 --> 00:01:28,255 Yeah. 37 00:01:54,197 --> 00:01:56,199 You ever see this? That logo? 38 00:01:56,283 --> 00:01:57,868 Um... 39 00:01:57,951 --> 00:02:01,413 I don't know this logo, but it looks like a Don't Fret design. 40 00:02:01,496 --> 00:02:03,624 This artist does some stuff around the city. 41 00:02:03,707 --> 00:02:05,584 -Cool. Cool. -Yeah. 42 00:02:05,667 --> 00:02:07,753 So, I was at this party last night, 43 00:02:07,836 --> 00:02:10,672 and, uh, some guy brought that for us to taste, 44 00:02:10,756 --> 00:02:12,591 -and it's pretty good. -Yeah? 45 00:02:12,674 --> 00:02:16,595 But, uh, what made him interesting to me was he was telling us that... 46 00:02:16,678 --> 00:02:18,597 apparently it's some kind of underground brewery, 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,059 which is something I've never heard of before, and that it's illegal. 48 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:23,810 You wanna bust up their operation? 49 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:26,730 And then you're gonna start your own brewery? 50 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:29,066 - No, you know-- - I work for you. Let's do it. 51 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:32,152 No, no, the... You know, I think there's a story, 52 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:35,322 and, uh, I'd like you to try to get inside it and tell the story. 53 00:02:35,405 --> 00:02:37,032 Okay. So... 54 00:02:38,617 --> 00:02:41,370 Where is it? Who is it? 55 00:02:41,453 --> 00:02:43,372 - Well-- - When is it happening? 56 00:02:43,455 --> 00:02:45,248 That's the rub. I don't know. 57 00:02:45,332 --> 00:02:47,459 The, uh, the guy who brought it, though, 58 00:02:47,542 --> 00:02:50,420 I think he said he worked at Dark Matter, which is some coffee place. 59 00:02:50,504 --> 00:02:52,130 - I'll get on it. - All right. 60 00:02:52,214 --> 00:02:53,757 Yeah. 61 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:19,783 -Hey, how's it going? -It's going all right. How you doing, man? 62 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:21,743 -Good. I'm Matt. -Matt, Jason. Nice to meet you. 63 00:03:21,827 --> 00:03:22,953 -Nice to meet you. -Yeah. 64 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:24,121 Uh, how'd you hear about us? 65 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:25,455 I heard about it from a friend, man. 66 00:03:25,539 --> 00:03:26,915 -All right, cool, man. Well, come on in. -Yeah. 67 00:03:26,998 --> 00:03:29,167 We got three beers on tap. 68 00:03:29,251 --> 00:03:30,710 All right, thank you. 69 00:03:30,794 --> 00:03:33,255 And, dude, we're, uh, we're fermenting this awesome brown ale right now. 70 00:03:33,338 --> 00:03:34,673 Come back in a couple weeks. Check it out. 71 00:03:34,756 --> 00:03:36,091 -Yeah? All right. -Thanks. You guys are the best. 72 00:03:36,174 --> 00:03:37,592 -Yes! Enjoy. -Thank you. 73 00:03:37,676 --> 00:03:38,885 How much do I owe you for the beer? 74 00:03:38,969 --> 00:03:40,804 Um, you know what? This one's on the house. 75 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:42,347 -Appreciate it. Thank you, man. -Yeah? Absolutely. 76 00:03:42,431 --> 00:03:44,516 So, here's my card. Just, uh, hit me up some time. 77 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:45,726 -We'll do a story. -Yeah. 78 00:03:45,809 --> 00:03:47,811 -Yeah? Bye. -All right. Take care. Drive safe. 79 00:03:58,071 --> 00:03:59,406 - Hey. - Hey. 80 00:03:59,489 --> 00:04:00,741 Who was that? 81 00:04:00,824 --> 00:04:03,952 He's actually this, uh... He's a reporter from... from New City. 82 00:04:04,035 --> 00:04:06,329 That guy's from New City? What did he want? 83 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:07,998 Uh, he just wanted to check out the brewery. 84 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:09,166 And what did... what did you say? 85 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:11,001 -Did... did you tell him anything? -Relax. 86 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:13,211 No. Dude, this isn't good that he knows we exist, man. 87 00:04:13,295 --> 00:04:14,671 That's... 88 00:04:14,755 --> 00:04:17,716 Babe, have you... have you met Lee and Megan? 89 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:19,342 - No. - They're both at Half Acre. 90 00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:21,803 Oh, you guys are at Half Acre? Hey, Jeff. It's nice to meet you guys. 91 00:04:21,887 --> 00:04:23,597 He's one of the brewers, and she's the assistant. 92 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,806 I can't believe we haven't met before. 93 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:28,059 - Yeah. And you're the assistant tap... - Tap room manager. 94 00:04:28,143 --> 00:04:29,311 Awesome. Awesome. 95 00:04:29,394 --> 00:04:31,188 -Yeah, awesome. -Dude, we love your guys' shit. 96 00:04:31,271 --> 00:04:33,482 Like, seriously, you fucking inspire us. 97 00:04:33,565 --> 00:04:35,066 - That's true. - He's the one that brews it. 98 00:04:36,318 --> 00:04:38,820 If we don't talk to him, if we fucking cut this guy out, 99 00:04:38,904 --> 00:04:41,198 he's got no story, right? What's he gonna say? 100 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:42,449 Whatever he wants. 101 00:04:42,532 --> 00:04:44,659 Exact... But what, like, what? "Oh, hey, there's this--" 102 00:04:44,743 --> 00:04:46,745 "There's an illegal brewery happening down here. 103 00:04:46,828 --> 00:04:49,080 It's all the rage. Everybody's talking about it. 104 00:04:49,164 --> 00:04:53,084 Um, those growlers you're seeing with the Don't Fret logo, 105 00:04:53,168 --> 00:04:55,086 that's... that's where it is. 106 00:04:55,170 --> 00:04:56,379 It's so and so." 107 00:04:56,463 --> 00:05:01,510 At least if we play ball with him, we can kind of control the message. 108 00:05:01,593 --> 00:05:04,346 If we play ball with him, you... you do realize, like, this is done. 109 00:05:04,429 --> 00:05:08,099 Whatever we have here, this is, like... no more. 110 00:05:08,183 --> 00:05:09,893 Nothing lasts forever, buddy. 111 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:12,062 -You know? Like, come on. -It feels like we just started. 112 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:13,313 - If we're gonna-- - What do... 113 00:05:13,396 --> 00:05:16,024 Eh, we started a while ago. It's time. 114 00:05:16,107 --> 00:05:21,780 We could expand to ten times this capacity in a month if we wanted to. 115 00:05:21,863 --> 00:05:24,366 Can we clean up? I don't wanna talk about this anymore. 116 00:05:24,449 --> 00:05:26,326 -Yeah. It's fine, man. Hey. Just, like... -Okay. 117 00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:28,912 Let's just go look at some spaces, right? 118 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:30,038 Let's, let's just drop... 119 00:05:30,121 --> 00:05:32,123 Let's just go look at spaces so we cover our asses, right? 120 00:05:32,207 --> 00:05:33,208 Okay, all right. Let's just... 121 00:05:33,291 --> 00:05:34,334 - Let's just... - Can you grab the... 122 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:36,670 Yes, of course. But, you know... 123 00:05:37,587 --> 00:05:40,298 I just don't wanna see us get fucked. That's all. 124 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:46,054 I think... he would be willing to help us out. 125 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:47,180 Okay. 126 00:05:48,139 --> 00:05:49,849 All right. I'll take 'em. 127 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:55,230 Were you guys trying to have a baby, or did it sort of just happen? 128 00:05:55,313 --> 00:05:57,274 Oh, yeah. No, we were trying. 129 00:05:59,401 --> 00:06:02,320 We tried for a couple months... 130 00:06:02,404 --> 00:06:05,782 and, you know, I actually think I know the exact day... 131 00:06:05,865 --> 00:06:07,450 -Really? -...he was conceived. 132 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:08,952 Yes, I do. 133 00:06:09,035 --> 00:06:10,996 It was a special moment. 134 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:13,540 Were you nervous when you ended up finding out? 135 00:06:13,623 --> 00:06:14,624 Uh, yeah. 136 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:16,876 But I was also nervous that I couldn't get pregnant 137 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,338 'cause you don't really know if you've never had a baby. 138 00:06:20,422 --> 00:06:23,967 -But you wanted to be a mom, then? -Yeah, I've always wanted to be a mom. 139 00:06:24,884 --> 00:06:27,220 I mean, we'll see how good I do, but... 140 00:06:28,096 --> 00:06:29,180 I like this guy. 141 00:06:30,098 --> 00:06:32,309 Oh, it's pretty. 142 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:34,978 And we will be following up with you as soon as everything arrives 143 00:06:35,061 --> 00:06:36,354 -to set up delivery. -Great. 144 00:06:36,438 --> 00:06:39,524 And if I could just have you swipe and follow the prompt. 145 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:44,696 - Okey-dokey. Perfect. - Great. Thank you so much. 146 00:06:44,779 --> 00:06:47,324 No problem. You guys are all set. Congratulations. 147 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:49,200 Thank you. Have a good day. 148 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:53,997 I forgot to tell you I talked to, uh, that guy Jason from New City today. 149 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,082 -Oh, wow. -Mmm-hmm. 150 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:58,001 -I didn't know you were talking with him. -Yeah. 151 00:06:58,084 --> 00:07:01,212 He seems to think that there's... there's a story there... 152 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:04,174 -which is great. -Wow. That's amazing. 153 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:07,302 I didn't think that was gonna happen. I thought Jeff was totally against it. 154 00:07:08,094 --> 00:07:11,139 Well... you know, he'll come around. 155 00:07:12,098 --> 00:07:13,099 It's fine. 156 00:07:14,017 --> 00:07:15,435 You haven't talked to him about it? 157 00:07:16,895 --> 00:07:19,397 I mean, initially I did, but, you know, 158 00:07:19,481 --> 00:07:23,652 he just doesn't see it for the opportunity it is yet, that's all. 159 00:07:23,735 --> 00:07:27,030 Actually, I think what Jason's most interested in, obviously, 160 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:30,367 is, like, the... the family element to the brewery, 161 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:34,204 so... you know, eventually he's gonna wanna talk to Jeff. 162 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,748 I just have to, sort of, prep him for it. 163 00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:41,169 Yeah, but shouldn't he be on board to start with? 164 00:07:41,252 --> 00:07:42,462 Or else the article's... 165 00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:44,464 If he wants to focus on the family and wants to talk to Jeff, 166 00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:47,634 and Jeff doesn't wanna talk to him, that's kind of a problem, right? 167 00:07:47,717 --> 00:07:48,760 We'll see. 168 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:52,722 You're just so cool about it. It'll all work out. 169 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:53,932 I'm the uptight one. 170 00:07:56,434 --> 00:07:58,687 I just think secrets aren't very good in family, 171 00:07:58,770 --> 00:08:01,398 as we learned from the beginning of this little venture. 172 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:04,359 Oh. I love you. 173 00:08:04,442 --> 00:08:06,152 I love you, too. I'm not mad. 174 00:08:06,236 --> 00:08:08,071 I... I just think you should talk to him. That's all. 175 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:09,406 Okay. I... I will. 176 00:08:14,285 --> 00:08:16,663 - Hey, baby. - Hey, baby. 177 00:08:16,746 --> 00:08:18,206 Hey, you okay? 178 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:20,500 Uh... 179 00:08:22,544 --> 00:08:23,586 Yeah. I'm sorry. 180 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:25,255 I think I just, like... 181 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:29,134 I don't know. Kimmie was doing fireballs, 182 00:08:29,217 --> 00:08:30,844 and I did some, too... 183 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:34,014 but I didn't think I took this many. 184 00:08:34,097 --> 00:08:37,434 He was getting so far down the line with... with these ideas and, like... 185 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:38,643 - Yeah. - It just... 186 00:08:38,727 --> 00:08:42,981 It made me, you know, it made me anxious. It made me feel kind of betrayed 187 00:08:43,064 --> 00:08:45,900 that he hadn't talked about any of this with me before, you know? 188 00:08:45,984 --> 00:08:48,486 If we went any bigger than what we're doing right now, okay... 189 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:50,613 -Mmm-hmm. -...there's just, there's compromise, 190 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:51,823 you know? There is. Just... 191 00:08:51,906 --> 00:08:54,409 That's the way it is. And so, like... like, let's say... 192 00:08:54,492 --> 00:08:56,995 let's say we looked at these spaces like Matt wants to, right? 193 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:58,663 -Yeah. -And we took one over. 194 00:08:58,747 --> 00:09:02,292 Like, to be able to... to maintain that, you need a lot of money. 195 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:03,918 -And so, like-- -I don't know, I'm just saying, like... 196 00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:06,713 I feel like... Look, hey, I don't wanna stress you out. Okay? 197 00:09:06,796 --> 00:09:08,214 No, it's fine. Just... You know what? Trust me. 198 00:09:08,298 --> 00:09:09,799 -I'm here for you. Like, that's-- -I'm... I know. 199 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:12,260 And I wanna... I wanna hear your thoughts. And it's, like... 200 00:09:12,343 --> 00:09:14,971 It's actually very interesting to me to hear what you're thinking, 201 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:17,766 and I wanna know because I love you and I trust you more than anything, so... 202 00:09:17,849 --> 00:09:18,892 Yeah. 203 00:09:18,975 --> 00:09:21,436 I just... I just think, don't make it a no. 204 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:22,645 You know what I mean? 205 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:24,814 -Like, just keep it open, and like-- -Yeah, I will. 206 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:26,316 I... 207 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:29,360 I'm gonna... I'm gonna keep an open mind. I'm not saying no. 208 00:09:29,444 --> 00:09:31,488 -Come here. Come here. -I just feel... 209 00:09:33,281 --> 00:09:35,575 - I love you. Okay? - I love you. 210 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:46,836 It's a two-brother operation, so if I only talk to... 211 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,962 You know, you're right. 212 00:09:48,046 --> 00:09:49,047 -...one. -I didn't even think about that. 213 00:09:49,130 --> 00:09:50,173 'Cause he was more like, 214 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:51,883 you know, you can just talk for the both of us, but... 215 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:53,426 -Yeah. -...that makes a lot of sense, 216 00:09:53,510 --> 00:09:54,844 so... so why don't we do this? 217 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:56,221 Why don't, uh... 218 00:09:56,304 --> 00:09:58,681 Why don't we set up a phone call, like, in the next, like, 219 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:00,350 you know, say, like, next week sometime? 220 00:10:00,433 --> 00:10:01,976 -Uh... -Does that sound good? I know-- 221 00:10:02,060 --> 00:10:03,186 -No, no. -Uh, I just-- 222 00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:04,437 -No. No. -No. 223 00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:07,732 Just wanna talk to both of you. 224 00:10:07,816 --> 00:10:09,776 -I know. Yeah, I would love that. -If I don't-- 225 00:10:09,859 --> 00:10:11,319 I'm telling you, I... I wish... 226 00:10:11,402 --> 00:10:13,363 I wish I could sort of force his hand on the thing, 227 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:15,115 but he's, uh... 228 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:16,908 -He's a little difficult sometimes, so... -Yeah. 229 00:10:16,991 --> 00:10:18,034 So, um... 230 00:10:18,118 --> 00:10:20,411 Can he do a Skype interview or something like that? 231 00:10:20,495 --> 00:10:22,330 -Yeah. You know what? -We could Skype or FaceTime? 232 00:10:22,413 --> 00:10:24,582 Why don't we figure that out? Why don't we just get this part done? 233 00:10:24,666 --> 00:10:26,251 And then after we get in here, we can chat it out. 234 00:10:26,334 --> 00:10:28,837 And then I'll make sure that, you know, before you leave, 235 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,797 we'll... we'll try to set something up on the books, you know? 236 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,298 -All right. All right. -All right? Sound like a plan? 237 00:10:32,382 --> 00:10:34,425 -That sounds like a flake. -Let's, uh, let's head in. 238 00:10:34,509 --> 00:10:36,636 Oh, come on. 239 00:10:36,719 --> 00:10:37,887 So, you're the financial guy. 240 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:41,599 What... what do you forecast for the company over the next five, ten years? 241 00:10:41,683 --> 00:10:43,143 What's next? 242 00:10:43,226 --> 00:10:49,315 Well, honestly, we just started this because we loved doing something together, 243 00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:50,608 and we loved, like I said, 244 00:10:50,692 --> 00:10:54,154 watching people enjoy something that we were able to... to produce. 245 00:10:54,904 --> 00:10:57,657 But I... I would be lying if I didn't say I... 246 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:02,036 We've all imagined the company growing larger, and bigger, 247 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,706 -and becoming something more substantial. -Hmm. 248 00:11:04,789 --> 00:11:07,667 And we've... I've actually started looking at some spaces 249 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:12,547 that we would be able to move this operation into a larger scale, and... 250 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:14,549 -Make some big money. -Well, you know, we'll see. 251 00:11:14,632 --> 00:11:18,928 But we can definitely, uh, apply what we've learned in this garage... 252 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:21,598 -Yeah. -...and expand to, uh, 253 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,182 the greater Chicago area. 254 00:11:23,266 --> 00:11:26,769 We could definitely, in time, uh... 255 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:29,480 I don't see why we couldn't be a national company. 256 00:11:58,426 --> 00:11:59,636 Hey, what's up, Jeff? 257 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:02,430 What's up, man? Um, are you... are you busy? 258 00:12:02,513 --> 00:12:05,224 So just, like, as... as you really grow, 259 00:12:05,308 --> 00:12:09,062 like, how do you... how do you maintain, like, the quality of everything, 260 00:12:09,145 --> 00:12:11,856 you know, as you're doing this in the... for the masses? 261 00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:13,191 You know? It's like... 262 00:12:13,274 --> 00:12:15,026 What... To maintain, like... How... 263 00:12:15,109 --> 00:12:17,028 The reason why you initially started this. 264 00:12:17,111 --> 00:12:19,405 Right. It used to be a handful of us saying, 265 00:12:19,489 --> 00:12:20,698 "Hey, this is, like, the best coffee. 266 00:12:20,782 --> 00:12:22,700 This is the best that this can possibly be." 267 00:12:22,784 --> 00:12:23,826 -Right. -And then you... 268 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:24,994 you quickly learn, as you grow up, 269 00:12:25,078 --> 00:12:27,997 that you're a small fraction of an opinion or a palate, 270 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,791 so we started creating systems 271 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:33,336 and, like, having all of our baristas at our different stores 272 00:12:33,419 --> 00:12:34,796 score these same coffees. 273 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:35,922 -Right. -And that way, 274 00:12:36,005 --> 00:12:39,008 we could turn around and actually have blind assessments of... 275 00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:41,219 Hey, this is, you know... seven... 276 00:12:41,302 --> 00:12:43,596 Seventeen people said this coffee was terrible. 277 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,014 - Sure, sure. - And then I said it was great. 278 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:47,100 -Right, right. -Well, maybe I'm, uh... 279 00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:49,560 -Maybe I need to get humbled... -Yeah. 280 00:12:49,644 --> 00:12:52,814 ...and realize that 17 people are probably more intelligent than me. 281 00:12:52,897 --> 00:12:54,482 That makes sense. 282 00:12:54,565 --> 00:12:56,609 What about, like, you know, experimentation? 283 00:12:56,693 --> 00:12:57,735 You know, like, do you... 284 00:12:57,819 --> 00:13:00,738 do you feel like you can still kind of push the boundaries and try new shit? 285 00:13:00,822 --> 00:13:03,574 Or do you feel like you have to kind of please the masses? 286 00:13:03,658 --> 00:13:07,537 More than ever, I think we can do weirder shit than we've ever done. 287 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:09,038 You... Now more than ever? 288 00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:11,332 Yeah. I mean, we got more talent on the team. 289 00:13:11,416 --> 00:13:14,168 We've got, you know, more money to play with things. 290 00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:16,295 But, you know, it's like, um... 291 00:13:16,379 --> 00:13:18,256 some of this, like, cask conditioning stuff. 292 00:13:18,339 --> 00:13:21,384 We've been doing pressure infusions of coffees that, 293 00:13:21,467 --> 00:13:23,094 you know, we couldn't have done that 294 00:13:23,177 --> 00:13:25,972 back when we were trying to make sure everyone got paid. 295 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:28,391 This thing is huge. 296 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:32,020 I really hope my baby is not this big. 297 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:34,814 Ow. Okay. 298 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:36,024 Yeah. 299 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:39,318 Just line it up and then... 300 00:13:40,737 --> 00:13:42,071 Perfect. 301 00:13:42,155 --> 00:13:44,365 -You wanna match up the thing? -I'm sorry. Right. I'm sorry. 302 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:46,701 You okay? 303 00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:51,456 Yeah, um, I'm just not feeling so good. 304 00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:52,582 Sorry. 305 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:54,876 Oh, that's okay. Is it tummy? 306 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:56,377 Yes. Yeah. 307 00:13:56,461 --> 00:13:57,879 If you go into the bathroom, 308 00:13:57,962 --> 00:13:59,172 -right there... -Uh-huh. 309 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:01,090 ...under the sink, I have anti-nausea medication. 310 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:02,258 -Okay. Can I... -Yeah, yeah. 311 00:14:02,341 --> 00:14:03,426 -Yeah? Okay. -Just take a little. 312 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:05,720 -I'm gonna be right... You okay? -Yeah, I'm fine. 313 00:14:05,803 --> 00:14:07,013 Okay. I'll be right back. I'm sorry. 314 00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:08,473 I'm fine. 315 00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:13,144 I'm... not fine. 316 00:14:34,082 --> 00:14:36,125 Well, we would be able to put a water filtration system 317 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:37,502 - in here, and be able to... - Yeah. It's... 318 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:39,128 - build-to-suit. So, yeah. - Great. 319 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:40,588 Definitely, for sure. 320 00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:43,007 Um, just... thanks a lot. Just give me one second. 321 00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:44,217 - Yeah. - I need to check with him, okay? 322 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:45,468 -Mmm-hmm. -Thanks. 323 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:47,345 What's up, man? What are you doing? 324 00:14:47,428 --> 00:14:49,639 Uh, texting. 325 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,225 Well, do you wanna, uh... 326 00:14:53,434 --> 00:14:55,103 You wanna come take part in the conversation? 327 00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:58,106 Seems, uh, seems like you got it covered. 328 00:15:00,274 --> 00:15:02,318 Okay. Uh, you got any questions or anything? Like... 329 00:15:02,402 --> 00:15:04,612 Yes. What are we doing here, man? 330 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:08,491 - We're just looking at spaces. - I know, but... 331 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:11,953 What? Are you gonna be like this all day? 332 00:15:12,036 --> 00:15:13,955 You're just gonna, like, lean against walls and be mopey? 333 00:15:14,038 --> 00:15:15,540 Dude, come on, man. I'm here. 334 00:15:15,623 --> 00:15:17,125 You asked me to be here. I'm here. 335 00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:21,421 Could you try a little bit? 336 00:15:22,338 --> 00:15:24,465 Attaboy. There you go. 337 00:15:24,549 --> 00:15:26,592 Uh, Sylvia? I think we're ready to go see another space. 338 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:30,388 So we are coming in at about half the square footage of the last place. 339 00:15:30,471 --> 00:15:32,598 So this is 10,000 square feet. 340 00:15:32,682 --> 00:15:36,769 A... fixer-upper, but it's got tons of personality. 341 00:15:36,853 --> 00:15:39,605 It fits within the parameters we talked about for sure. 342 00:15:41,858 --> 00:15:44,485 Okay. Thank you. This is, uh... 343 00:15:44,569 --> 00:15:46,737 Dude... 344 00:15:48,072 --> 00:15:49,115 I like it. 345 00:15:49,198 --> 00:15:50,616 Fuck, man, I didn't think I was gonna say that, 346 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:54,036 but I could actually wrap my head around this, man. 347 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,331 This would just take way too much work. This is... this is... 348 00:15:57,415 --> 00:15:58,458 Dude. 349 00:15:58,541 --> 00:16:00,501 It's a money pit, man. We're not... This isn't a real option. 350 00:16:00,585 --> 00:16:03,212 Dude, listen. I'm saying what you've been wanting me to say. 351 00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:05,506 I can... I can get behind this, all right? 352 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:07,008 That's good. That's great, man. 353 00:16:07,091 --> 00:16:09,218 No. Yeah, we'll find the right place. But that's... 354 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:10,803 Sylvia, thank you so much. 355 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:13,139 This is, uh, very cool, but... 356 00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:14,348 - Okay. - Uh, unfortunately... 357 00:16:14,432 --> 00:16:16,392 I just don't think this one's gonna work. 358 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:18,311 Hey, sweetie, you doing okay in there? 359 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:22,857 Noelle? 360 00:16:23,524 --> 00:16:25,276 Hey, hey, hey. 361 00:16:25,359 --> 00:16:26,944 What's wrong? What happened? 362 00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:29,655 Nothing. I'm sorry. 363 00:16:29,739 --> 00:16:31,741 It's okay. Come here. 364 00:16:38,456 --> 00:16:40,666 You know how many fucking garages we could fit in this space? 365 00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:41,918 -Let's just take... -A lot. 366 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,419 ...a little leap. 367 00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:45,296 That's hard enough for me as is, 368 00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:47,757 you know that, to take this small leap. 369 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,885 This is fucking beyond anything I can comprehend. 370 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:55,056 I... I know it looks corporate because of the size of the place 371 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:58,059 -and the fluorescent lighting, but-- -'Cause it's next to a fucking mall? 372 00:16:58,142 --> 00:17:00,269 Is that part of the reason it looks corporate? 373 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:03,314 Is that what we wanna do? We wanna be the brewery next to the mall? 374 00:17:03,397 --> 00:17:04,857 There's a lot of foot traffic. 375 00:17:04,941 --> 00:17:06,609 It's not a bad thing that it's next to a mall. 376 00:17:06,692 --> 00:17:08,402 That's the foot traffic we want? 377 00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:10,905 The guys who are going to fucking Kohl's? 378 00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:13,908 We want them to go from Kohl's and just mosey on over here, and-- 379 00:17:13,991 --> 00:17:15,701 Oh, don't be pretentious about your... 380 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:17,662 you know, what your clientele is, okay? 381 00:17:17,745 --> 00:17:19,789 -You just want people to buy your beer... -See, I don't. 382 00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:21,332 -...so-- -That... that's not how I feel. 383 00:17:21,415 --> 00:17:24,001 That's not how I feel, okay? I don't want just anyone to buy our beer. 384 00:17:24,085 --> 00:17:26,295 I don't wanna just have anyone in here, okay? 385 00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,465 That's... All right, we're just... We're not gonna solve anything. I just... 386 00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:32,093 -Could we sleep on it? -Yeah. Let's sleep on it, okay? 387 00:17:33,261 --> 00:17:35,346 - Don't do that, man. - Don't... 388 00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:38,266 We can kind of see if there's any possibility 389 00:17:38,349 --> 00:17:42,019 of a story that we might do when the Beard Awards are in the city, 390 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:45,231 with a title like, "Who Cares About the Beard Awards?" 391 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,108 or, "Does Anybody Care About the Beard Awards?" 392 00:17:47,191 --> 00:17:50,278 or, "What Awards... Do Awards Really Matter to People?" 393 00:17:50,361 --> 00:17:53,114 I think that's an idea that it could be... 394 00:17:53,197 --> 00:17:54,740 - Well, see-- - ...pardon the pun, very meaty? 395 00:17:54,824 --> 00:17:58,494 - Or it could be, you know... - Vegetabley. 396 00:17:58,578 --> 00:18:00,371 -Or it could be thin, thin gruel. -Thin gruel. 397 00:18:00,454 --> 00:18:01,831 I've been trying to get in touch with Jeff. 398 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:02,957 Matt keeps talking to me, 399 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,209 but Jeff has been impossible to get in touch with. 400 00:18:05,293 --> 00:18:08,129 I've hit him up online, I've stopped by his job, 401 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:09,255 I hit up his... 402 00:18:09,338 --> 00:18:11,340 ex on Facebook. 403 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:12,633 It's just, I don't know, 404 00:18:12,717 --> 00:18:14,260 and I don't think he wants to talk to me for the story. 405 00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:16,137 All right, well, keep at it. You gotta get 'em both. 406 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:18,264 I know, it just helps the story to have both of 'em, 407 00:18:18,347 --> 00:18:20,016 but it's just been... 408 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:21,809 I don't think he wants to be a part of it. 409 00:18:21,892 --> 00:18:23,227 -Yeah. Well, we need 'em both. -Yeah. 410 00:18:23,311 --> 00:18:25,062 'Cause that's the story, right? It's the family thing, so... 411 00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:26,272 -All right. I'm on it. -All right. Keep at it. 412 00:18:26,355 --> 00:18:28,107 -All right. Later. -Let me know. Bye. Take care. 413 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:29,900 Let's just drink our beers. Let's not talk about it. 414 00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:31,235 -I didn't even say anything yet. -Is that okay? 415 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:34,363 I know, I know, I just... Let's just not go down that road, please. 416 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:37,491 I was just gonna say that, like... 417 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:41,037 Like, look at this fucking place. 418 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,163 It's... 419 00:18:42,246 --> 00:18:44,624 Tell me... tell me you couldn't see us in a place like this. 420 00:18:44,707 --> 00:18:46,334 This place is fuckin' cool, yes. 421 00:18:46,417 --> 00:18:47,627 -Yeah, it is. -Yeah, I know, I know. 422 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:48,878 -And it's big. -Yes. 423 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,004 That's all I was saying. 424 00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:51,881 I get it for you, man, it's like you have this... 425 00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:53,758 You have a boring job that you hate, 426 00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,760 you know, and, like, making the transition to, 427 00:18:55,843 --> 00:18:59,096 like, running a fucking brewery, that's a no-brainer. All right? 428 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:00,181 But, like... 429 00:19:00,264 --> 00:19:02,516 And I don't want this to come across the wrong way, all right? 430 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,478 But for me, it's like, I love my life. 431 00:19:05,561 --> 00:19:07,188 And I know I'm very fortunate to be able to say that, 432 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:10,650 but, like, I... I love... I love working at Dark Matter, man. 433 00:19:10,733 --> 00:19:14,195 I love... I love my shitty garage brewery, 434 00:19:14,278 --> 00:19:15,780 and I... I love my girlfriend, man. 435 00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:18,407 And I love that I get to fucking spend time with her. 436 00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:20,534 And I'm not... I'm not trying to throw that in your face, okay? 437 00:19:20,618 --> 00:19:22,036 -No... you're right. No... -But I just, I... 438 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,330 When I think about all that, I don't know why I would... 439 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,374 I would give that up to, like... 440 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:28,709 to work more and to fucking stress more. 441 00:19:28,793 --> 00:19:30,378 -I hear all that. -Okay. 442 00:19:30,461 --> 00:19:32,505 And you're right. My job fucking sucks. 443 00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:33,839 -And you're absolutely right. -Right, I... 444 00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:35,716 Look, man, I just... 445 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,678 I just know that you have so much fucking potential. 446 00:19:38,761 --> 00:19:39,804 That's all. 447 00:19:39,887 --> 00:19:43,015 And even if you try to stay in the same place, 448 00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:45,267 everything around you is gonna change, 449 00:19:45,351 --> 00:19:48,104 and everything you think is cool now isn't gonna be cool in... 450 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:49,730 whenever it's not cool. 451 00:19:49,814 --> 00:19:53,984 And I just wanna watch you grow while everyone else around you grows. 452 00:19:54,068 --> 00:19:56,445 That's all. That's all it is, man. 453 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,406 I just wanna see you finally get rewarded. 454 00:19:58,489 --> 00:20:01,033 You're fucking good at everything you do, 455 00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:04,036 and you have great people around you, and that's not an accident. 456 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,539 And I just want to see you fucking get rewarded for it. That's it. 457 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:08,207 -Okay. Okay. And you've said it, man. -And I've had it-- 458 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:10,292 - I did. I said it, and now... - I'm processing it. 459 00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:11,711 You've said it and I've heard it, and let's-- 460 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:13,087 -I'm gonna piss my pants... -You do that. 461 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:15,339 -...if I don't get up right now. -Please, get the fuck out of here. 462 00:20:15,423 --> 00:20:16,549 - All right. - Go. Go. 463 00:20:16,632 --> 00:20:17,800 Jesus. 464 00:20:42,658 --> 00:20:44,785 - Can I get you something? - Uh, yes. 465 00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:47,037 - I will have another TV Party, please. - Okay. 466 00:20:47,121 --> 00:20:48,247 Thank you. 467 00:20:57,089 --> 00:20:58,466 - Thank you. - Cheers. 468 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:04,472 What the fuck? 469 00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:10,227 Fucking asshole. 470 00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:14,607 Fuck. 471 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,153 Nah. Come on. One more. 472 00:21:19,236 --> 00:21:22,239 Hey, your, uh, your buddy from New City texted you. 473 00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:23,699 You're unbelievable, man. 474 00:21:27,244 --> 00:21:28,662 You needed the push. 475 00:21:31,457 --> 00:21:32,666 You're welcome. 476 00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:42,134 - Babe. - Hey, babe. 477 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:45,179 You won't fucking believe my night. 478 00:21:46,096 --> 00:21:48,516 Matt fucked the brewery. 479 00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:54,730 Whoa. 480 00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:58,901 What's going on? 481 00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:05,407 You okay? 482 00:22:06,575 --> 00:22:08,285 Talk to me. 483 00:22:11,539 --> 00:22:12,873 I'm pregnant. 484 00:22:16,627 --> 00:22:17,795 What? 485 00:22:19,046 --> 00:22:20,589 I took a test today. 486 00:22:42,152 --> 00:22:44,029 Hey. No. Okay. 487 00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:08,322 Jeff! 488 00:24:08,405 --> 00:24:09,573 It's cold as fuck out there. 489 00:24:09,657 --> 00:24:11,825 -How you doing, man? -I'm, uh, I'm okay. 490 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:14,161 -Jason from New City. -Yeah. I know. 491 00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:15,871 -Been talking with your brother. -Yeah. 492 00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:17,498 -Been trying to get a hold of you. -Mmm-hmm. 493 00:24:17,581 --> 00:24:19,375 -It's been very tough. -Here I am. 494 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,085 You're a hard person to get a hold of. 495 00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:23,045 Yeah. Um... 496 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,922 -Do you want a beer? -I would love a beer. 497 00:24:25,005 --> 00:24:26,131 Yeah? 498 00:24:26,715 --> 00:24:27,925 Look, can we talk? 499 00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:30,469 - Yeah. - All right. 500 00:24:30,552 --> 00:24:33,305 Your brother keeps talking to me. Why won't you talk to me? 501 00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:38,435 I don't know, man, um... 502 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,563 My brother and I are very different people. 503 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,149 Mmm, give me some of that. 504 00:24:45,651 --> 00:24:47,069 Mmm. 505 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:52,282 - Hey, guys! - Hi. 506 00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:54,618 Hi. 507 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:56,078 - Hey. - Welcome. 508 00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:58,330 -Hi, beautiful. -Hi. How are you? 509 00:24:58,414 --> 00:24:59,456 Mmm... 510 00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:00,582 Hey, man. 511 00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:02,334 Oh, have a seat. 512 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:03,919 I will if I can. 513 00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:07,172 -Looks really good. -Mmm-hmm. 514 00:25:07,256 --> 00:25:08,716 You're gonna be a great fucking dad. 515 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:09,800 How you doing? 516 00:25:09,883 --> 00:25:10,884 Yeah, we'll see. 517 00:25:10,968 --> 00:25:11,969 I'm okay. 518 00:25:12,052 --> 00:25:13,053 -Yeah? -Yeah. 519 00:25:13,137 --> 00:25:14,388 Listen, dude. 520 00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:15,806 We just kinda sat and talked through... 521 00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:18,559 If, uh, if we're gonna do this, we gotta do it together. 522 00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:21,186 All right? No more... no more bullshit behind my back, okay? 523 00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:22,312 - Yeah. - Good. 524 00:25:22,438 --> 00:25:24,690 So I feel kinda crazy, but... 525 00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:26,400 - That's totally normal... - I promise, man. 526 00:25:26,483 --> 00:25:28,777 Okay. All right. 527 00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:30,195 Hey, I'm excited. 528 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:31,363 Yeah. 529 00:25:31,447 --> 00:25:32,948 Uh, who, uh, who wants a beer? 530 00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:35,451 - That's my cue. - I do.