1 00:00:02,620 --> 00:00:05,931 ♪♪ 2 00:00:05,931 --> 00:00:08,896 Man: I AM A PROPHET OF GOD. 3 00:00:08,896 --> 00:00:11,689 I'M EVEN MORE THAN A PROPHET. 4 00:00:11,689 --> 00:00:13,758 I AM NOT A FALSE PROPHET. 5 00:00:13,758 --> 00:00:16,827 THEREFORE I AM NOT WORTHY OF THE PENALTY SOUGHT 6 00:00:16,827 --> 00:00:21,344 BY THOSE WHO SEEK MY DEATH. 7 00:00:21,344 --> 00:00:25,344 I HAVEN'T HEARD HIS VOICE IN CLOSE TO 30 YEARS. 8 00:00:25,344 --> 00:00:27,103 I DON'T HEAR THE MAN THAT, UH, 9 00:00:27,103 --> 00:00:29,310 THAT I ONCE KNEW AND, UH, 10 00:00:29,310 --> 00:00:31,931 AND LOVED AS A FRIEND. 11 00:00:31,931 --> 00:00:33,689 HE'S NOT THERE. 12 00:00:40,517 --> 00:00:43,068 Reporter: THE BODY OF A MAN WAS FOUND LAST NIGHT, 13 00:00:43,068 --> 00:00:45,620 TWO OR THREE OTHERS THIS AFTERNOON. 14 00:00:45,620 --> 00:00:47,724 Reporter: THE KILLER HAD GAGGED AND BOUND THE VICTIMS 15 00:00:47,724 --> 00:00:51,517 WITH ELECTRICAL DUCT TAPE. 16 00:00:51,517 --> 00:00:53,379 IT WAS, UM... 17 00:00:55,551 --> 00:00:58,931 IT'S JUST A HARD PLACE TO GO BACK TO 18 00:00:58,931 --> 00:01:01,965 BECAUSE I WAS THERE, 19 00:01:01,965 --> 00:01:07,241 BECAUSE I CONTRIBUTED TO, UH, THE FAMILY. 20 00:01:07,241 --> 00:01:11,724 EVEN THOUGH I LEFT, EVEN THOUGH I WENT TO THE AUTHORITIES, 21 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:16,551 IT STILL DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS ENOUGH. 22 00:01:16,551 --> 00:01:21,034 I STILL FIND IT HARD TO MOVE ON. 23 00:01:21,034 --> 00:01:24,206 I HOPE THAT THIS -- THIS IS THE DAY 24 00:01:24,206 --> 00:01:26,517 THAT IT HAPPENS, THAT I LET GO. 25 00:01:33,655 --> 00:01:35,413 SORRY. 26 00:01:37,896 --> 00:01:40,862 ♪♪ 27 00:02:11,965 --> 00:02:14,965 --Captions by VITAC-- www.vitac.com 28 00:02:14,965 --> 00:02:18,241 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 29 00:02:18,241 --> 00:02:19,931 Currie: I MET JEFFREY IN THE NAVY, AND, 30 00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:24,758 UH, WE KNEW EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME. 31 00:02:24,758 --> 00:02:26,275 JEFFREY WAS THE TYPE OF PERSON 32 00:02:26,275 --> 00:02:30,000 THAT YOU COULD CALL FRIEND EASILY. 33 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,689 HE WAS VERY HUMAN. 34 00:02:31,689 --> 00:02:33,931 I MEAN, HE WAS VERY DOWN-TO-EARTH. 35 00:02:33,931 --> 00:02:38,000 HE WAS A -- A GOOD FAMILY MAN. 36 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,034 I LOVED, UH, JEFFREY AS A BROTHER. 37 00:03:05,103 --> 00:03:06,896 JEFFREY AND I WERE MEMBERS OF 38 00:03:06,896 --> 00:03:10,448 THE REORGANIZED CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS. 39 00:03:10,448 --> 00:03:13,448 AND, UH, JEFFREY, AT SOME POINT, UH, 40 00:03:13,448 --> 00:03:20,206 BECAME UNHAPPY WITH THE TENANTS OF THE CURRENT CHURCH. 41 00:03:20,206 --> 00:03:22,482 SO HE BROKE OFF. 42 00:03:22,482 --> 00:03:27,172 AND, UH, JEFFREY WAS EXCOMMUNICATED FROM THE CHURCH. 43 00:03:27,172 --> 00:03:28,758 I BECAME VERY CLOSE TO, 44 00:03:28,758 --> 00:03:32,448 UH, HIM AND HIS WIFE, ALICE. 45 00:03:34,482 --> 00:03:35,862 THIS HAS BEEN... 46 00:03:35,862 --> 00:03:37,965 THIS IS THE RECORD OF HIS PEOPLE. 47 00:03:37,965 --> 00:03:39,241 WE ARE... 48 00:03:39,241 --> 00:03:40,896 Currie: ONE DAY THEY BEGAN SHARING THE SCRIPTURES 49 00:03:40,896 --> 00:03:43,689 WITH ME AND THE THINGS THAT THEY BELIEVED. 50 00:03:43,689 --> 00:03:48,655 AND MORE SO, THE AFFLICTIONS THAT YOU'VE SEEN, GONE. 51 00:03:48,655 --> 00:03:52,793 THE ROOM TOOK ON A GLOW. 52 00:03:52,793 --> 00:03:57,034 A VERY WARM FEELING TOOK OVER ME. 53 00:03:57,034 --> 00:04:00,793 I SAW IN MY MIND'S EYE A DOOR OPEN. 54 00:04:00,793 --> 00:04:04,448 AND THERE WAS A VERY BRIGHT LIGHT BEHIND THAT DOOR. 55 00:04:04,448 --> 00:04:09,241 I FELT AS IF THIS IS WHERE I SHOULD BE. 56 00:04:09,241 --> 00:04:12,241 I NEVER REALLY HAD FAMILY IN MY LIFE. 57 00:04:12,241 --> 00:04:16,034 AND THIS FELT LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY 58 00:04:16,034 --> 00:04:18,964 TO, UH, TO HAVE A FAMILY. 59 00:04:18,964 --> 00:04:21,344 AND I WENT TO LIVE WITH THEM. 60 00:04:29,724 --> 00:04:33,172 WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IN MY OWN PERSONAL STAKE 61 00:04:33,172 --> 00:04:35,275 TO JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF... 62 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,000 A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE CHURCH HAD, 63 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,413 UH, HAD HEARD ABOUT JEFFREY. 64 00:04:39,413 --> 00:04:42,206 EVERYTHING IS BUILT ON THE PILLARS OF TRUTH. 65 00:04:42,206 --> 00:04:46,827 AND MANY OF THEM CAME TO SEE WHAT HE WAS TEACHING. 66 00:04:46,827 --> 00:04:48,896 THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING 67 00:04:48,896 --> 00:04:52,724 THAT THEIR CHURCH HADN'T BEEN GIVING THEM. 68 00:04:52,724 --> 00:04:55,482 IT'S OBVIOUS WHY WE'RE ALL HERE TOGETHER: 69 00:04:55,482 --> 00:05:00,862 BECAUSE WE LOST THAT CONNECTION TO THE CHURCH. 70 00:05:00,862 --> 00:05:05,310 Currie: THE CHURCH AT THE TIME WASN'T OFFERING VERY MUCH 71 00:05:05,310 --> 00:05:09,137 IN THE WAY OF SCRIPTURAL UNDERSTANDINGS. 72 00:05:09,137 --> 00:05:11,689 JEFFREY WAS OPENING UP THE SCRIPTURES 73 00:05:11,689 --> 00:05:15,034 AND MAKING THEM SOUND ALIVE. 74 00:05:15,034 --> 00:05:20,379 AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY WERE TURNING TO JEFFREY. 75 00:05:20,379 --> 00:05:23,448 AND IT WAS JUST LIKE A FAMILY. 76 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:27,379 AND AS MORE PEOPLE BEGAN TO COME INTO THE GROUP, 77 00:05:27,379 --> 00:05:29,379 THEY WOULD, UH, SHARE DIFFERENT STORIES 78 00:05:29,379 --> 00:05:31,068 ABOUT WHY THEY WERE THERE. 79 00:05:33,034 --> 00:05:36,275 [ SIGHS HEAVILY ] 80 00:05:36,275 --> 00:05:40,344 Man: I WAS PROBABLY AT THE LOWEST POINT OF MY LIFE. 81 00:05:40,344 --> 00:05:42,172 I WANTED TO MAKE SOME SENSE 82 00:05:42,172 --> 00:05:44,275 OF WHY MY WORLD WAS FALLING APART 83 00:05:44,275 --> 00:05:45,896 AND WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT. 84 00:05:53,206 --> 00:05:56,724 HE WAS OFFERING THE CHANCE 85 00:05:56,724 --> 00:05:59,896 TO GO WITH HIM AND FIND ANSWERS. 86 00:05:59,896 --> 00:06:02,655 AND THAT SOUNDED GOOD. 87 00:06:11,586 --> 00:06:15,000 LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE FOOD THAT YOU PROVIDE US. 88 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,793 Johnson: JEFF AND ALICE WERE THERE TO WELCOME US. 89 00:06:17,793 --> 00:06:22,034 KEITH AND KATHY, WE ARE HUMBLED THAT YOU JOIN US. 90 00:06:22,034 --> 00:06:25,034 Johnson: AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. 91 00:06:25,034 --> 00:06:26,310 All: AMEN. 92 00:06:26,310 --> 00:06:29,068 Johnson: THERE WAS A FEELING OF WARMTH AND LOVE. 93 00:06:29,068 --> 00:06:33,517 A TOAST TO EVERYBODY'S NEW BROTHER AND SISTER. 94 00:06:33,517 --> 00:06:37,724 EVERYONE IN THE GROUP CALLED JEFF DAD AND -- 95 00:06:37,724 --> 00:06:40,068 AND ALICE MOM. THEY WERE -- 96 00:06:40,068 --> 00:06:43,689 THEY WERE VERY MUCH LIKE A BIG FAMILY. 97 00:06:43,689 --> 00:06:45,689 AMEN. WELCOME. 98 00:06:56,413 --> 00:06:59,551 Currie: WE WERE DISCOURAGED FROM, UH, 99 00:06:59,551 --> 00:07:03,931 INTERACTING WITH, UH, FRIENDS AND FAMILY 100 00:07:03,931 --> 00:07:05,517 BECAUSE JEFF AND ALICE 101 00:07:05,517 --> 00:07:09,482 WERE BECOMING OUR NEW FRIENDS AND FAMILY. 102 00:07:09,482 --> 00:07:11,965 HEY, MOM. I KNOW IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY NEXT WEEK. 103 00:07:11,965 --> 00:07:14,517 SO I, UH, JUST WANTED TO LEAVE YOU A MESSAGE... 104 00:07:14,517 --> 00:07:18,655 HE WOULD NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS OUT. 105 00:07:18,655 --> 00:07:22,241 IT'S GOING GOOD AT THE MOMENT... 106 00:07:22,241 --> 00:07:24,310 UNLESS IT WAS HIS IDEA. 107 00:07:28,517 --> 00:07:29,896 YOU KNOW THE RULES. 108 00:07:29,896 --> 00:07:32,827 AND ALL INCOMING PHONE CALLS 109 00:07:32,827 --> 00:07:36,724 AND FOR THAT MATTER OUTGOING PHONE CALLS WERE MONITORED. 110 00:07:36,724 --> 00:07:40,172 HE SAID, "NOW THAT YOU'RE WITH ME, 111 00:07:40,172 --> 00:07:42,517 YOUR FAMILY AND ALL YOUR FRIENDS THAT -- 112 00:07:42,517 --> 00:07:45,827 THAT YOU'VE HAD IN THE PAST, THEY HATE YOU." 113 00:07:45,827 --> 00:07:48,448 AND HE DROVE THAT INTO PEOPLE'S HEADS 114 00:07:48,448 --> 00:07:50,482 AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. 115 00:08:09,517 --> 00:08:11,965 UH, HEY, JEFF. YOU WANTED TO SEE ME? 116 00:08:14,551 --> 00:08:18,689 Currie: I WAS, UH, CHASTISED IF I SHOWED INDEPENDENCE. 117 00:08:18,689 --> 00:08:20,379 WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? 118 00:08:20,379 --> 00:08:22,068 I WOULD JUST GO OFF AND DO -- 119 00:08:22,068 --> 00:08:24,724 DO WHATEVER I WANTED TO DO, 120 00:08:24,724 --> 00:08:27,034 WHICH MADE HIM VERY ANGRY. 121 00:08:27,034 --> 00:08:31,137 YOU DISAPPEARED. 122 00:08:31,137 --> 00:08:32,724 A FRIEND OF MINE FROM BUFFALO 123 00:08:32,724 --> 00:08:36,136 HAD ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO GO TO FLORIDA. 124 00:08:36,136 --> 00:08:38,793 AND, UH, AND I SAID, "SURE!" 125 00:08:38,793 --> 00:08:42,034 AND I JUST MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO GO. 126 00:08:42,034 --> 00:08:44,172 AND SO I WENT, 127 00:08:44,172 --> 00:08:46,206 AND I WAS GONE FOR A WEEK. 128 00:08:46,206 --> 00:08:49,793 CAME BACK AND JEFFREY WAS, UH, VERY ANGRY WITH ME. 129 00:08:49,793 --> 00:08:53,344 BECAUSE YOU ABANDONED YOUR FAMILY. 130 00:08:53,344 --> 00:08:55,034 NO, LOOK, I -- I -- I -- I'M SORRY. 131 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:58,206 IT WAS DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT YOU COULD DO 132 00:08:58,206 --> 00:09:01,034 UNLESS YOU ASKED HIM FIRST. 133 00:09:01,034 --> 00:09:04,241 AND THERE WAS NO QUESTIONING HIS REASONING. 134 00:09:04,241 --> 00:09:06,000 HE WAS ALWAYS RIGHT. 135 00:09:08,241 --> 00:09:10,000 JUST LEAVE. 136 00:09:17,931 --> 00:09:21,724 IT WAS, UH, IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER 137 00:09:21,724 --> 00:09:24,793 THIS BEGAN HAPPENING THAT JEFFREY BEGAN TO, 138 00:09:24,793 --> 00:09:27,379 UH, VIEW HIMSELF AS A PROPHET. 139 00:09:29,413 --> 00:09:33,689 HE BEGAN TO FEEL THAT HE WAS CALLED BY GOD 140 00:09:33,689 --> 00:09:37,413 TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL 141 00:09:37,413 --> 00:09:41,586 AND TO BE THE VOICE OF GOD ON EARTH. 142 00:09:41,586 --> 00:09:45,379 AND THAT WAS AN ISSUE FOR ME 143 00:09:45,379 --> 00:09:48,137 BECAUSE I STILL RESISTED A LITTLE BIT. 144 00:09:58,448 --> 00:10:02,344 ONE NIGHT HE WALKED IN, LAID HIS PISTOL ON THE TABLE 145 00:10:02,344 --> 00:10:06,034 IN FRONT OF HIM. 146 00:10:06,034 --> 00:10:10,448 SO YOU KNEW THAT WHATEVER HE SAID, 147 00:10:10,448 --> 00:10:12,000 YOU'D BETTER REMEMBER. 148 00:10:25,310 --> 00:10:29,310 Johnson: AS I SAW THE INCREASING CONTROL THAT HE HAD 149 00:10:29,310 --> 00:10:31,000 OVER THE PEOPLE -- 150 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,275 NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE OUTSIDE CONTACT, 151 00:10:34,275 --> 00:10:38,551 HAVING PEOPLE CALL HIM DAD AND -- AND ALICE MOM, 152 00:10:38,551 --> 00:10:40,275 I THINK THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, 153 00:10:40,275 --> 00:10:44,275 KINDA CAME TOGETHER TO REALLY ALARM ME. 154 00:10:57,034 --> 00:10:59,517 I HAD ASKED HIM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS 155 00:10:59,517 --> 00:11:01,793 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 156 00:11:01,793 --> 00:11:04,724 YOU OUGHTA BE FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS IN A CLASS. 157 00:11:07,379 --> 00:11:11,689 AND MY QUESTIONS WEREN'T OUT OF LINE OR ANYTHING. 158 00:11:11,689 --> 00:11:13,068 HE ANSWERED 'EM. 159 00:11:13,068 --> 00:11:16,137 I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. 160 00:11:16,137 --> 00:11:18,827 IT SEEMED FINE. 161 00:11:18,827 --> 00:11:20,241 AFTER CLASS, UM, 162 00:11:20,241 --> 00:11:22,793 ONE OF THE GROUP MEMBERS 163 00:11:22,793 --> 00:11:25,344 CAME UP AND TOLD ME, UH, 164 00:11:25,344 --> 00:11:27,758 NEVER TO ASK HIM A QUESTION AGAIN. 165 00:11:27,758 --> 00:11:30,931 Woman: KEITH? 166 00:11:30,931 --> 00:11:33,241 I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE MEETING. 167 00:11:33,241 --> 00:11:35,275 YOU CANNOT TALK TO HIM LIKE THAT. 168 00:11:35,275 --> 00:11:37,689 I JUST ASKED A QUESTION.BUT IT WAS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. 169 00:11:37,689 --> 00:11:39,689 HE DOESN'T LIKE THAT KIND OF THING, OKAY? 170 00:11:39,689 --> 00:11:41,344 NO ONE EVER CONTRADICTED HIM. 171 00:11:41,344 --> 00:11:42,931 NO ONE EVER ASKED QUESTIONS. 172 00:11:42,931 --> 00:11:47,448 IF I WERE YOU, I JUST WOULDN'T DO THAT. 173 00:11:47,448 --> 00:11:49,241 OKAY. 174 00:11:49,241 --> 00:11:51,931 I WAS THE ONLY ONE, I GUESS, STUPID ENOUGH 175 00:11:51,931 --> 00:11:54,034 TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS. 176 00:12:15,310 --> 00:12:17,206 HE WALKED IN, 177 00:12:17,206 --> 00:12:21,241 LAID HIS PISTOL ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF HIM... 178 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:24,068 JUST LAID IT DOWN POINTING TOWARDS THE AUDIENCE. 179 00:12:26,931 --> 00:12:28,896 IT WAS NOT THE FACT OF THE GUN THAT BOTHERED ME. 180 00:12:28,896 --> 00:12:31,172 IT WAS THE DIRECTION IT WAS POINTED. 181 00:12:33,931 --> 00:12:38,034 HE DIDN'T PICK IT UP. IT JUST SAT THERE, 182 00:12:38,034 --> 00:12:40,689 AND YOU LOOKED DOWN THE BARREL OF THE GUN 183 00:12:40,689 --> 00:12:42,724 WHILE YOU WERE IN CLASS. 184 00:12:42,724 --> 00:12:45,758 SO YOU KNEW THAT WHATEVER HE SAID, 185 00:12:45,758 --> 00:12:47,310 YOU'D BETTER REMEMBER. 186 00:13:01,551 --> 00:13:03,551 THERE WAS NO QUESTIONING THE PROPHET 187 00:13:03,551 --> 00:13:05,448 BECAUSE THE PROPHET TOOK, UH, 188 00:13:05,448 --> 00:13:08,034 HIS ORDERS FROM, UH, FROM GOD. 189 00:13:08,034 --> 00:13:12,172 AND THAT WAS WHERE THE DANGER LIED. 190 00:13:15,827 --> 00:13:19,482 PEOPLE WITHIN THE GROUP, UM, 191 00:13:19,482 --> 00:13:23,724 HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO FOLLOW THE PROPHET. 192 00:13:23,724 --> 00:13:26,724 THEY BEGAN TO FEAR JEFFREY MORE THAN THEY FEARED GOD. 193 00:13:26,724 --> 00:13:28,310 HAVEN'T YOU NOTICED THAT HIS MESSAGES 194 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:30,172 HAVE SEEMED KIND OF VIOLENT? 195 00:13:30,172 --> 00:13:31,241 HEY, LOOK. IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH JEFF, 196 00:13:31,241 --> 00:13:32,586 YOU KNOW WHAT? BRING IT UP TO HIM. 197 00:13:32,586 --> 00:13:34,724 DON'T GET ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS. 198 00:13:34,724 --> 00:13:37,620 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPETITION, UH, 199 00:13:37,620 --> 00:13:40,517 WITHIN THE GROUP TO WIN JEFFREY'S FAVOR. 200 00:13:40,517 --> 00:13:45,034 PEOPLE ACTUALLY BEGAN SNITCHING ON ONE ANOTHER. 201 00:13:45,034 --> 00:13:47,620 "SO-AND-SO DID THIS. 202 00:13:47,620 --> 00:13:50,379 SO-AND-SO DID THAT." 203 00:13:50,379 --> 00:13:52,068 JEFFREY HAD TURNED THEM INTO, 204 00:13:52,068 --> 00:13:55,413 UH, LITTLE SPIES ON ONE ANOTHER. 205 00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:11,068 Johnson: THE SESSION IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, 206 00:14:11,068 --> 00:14:14,689 IF SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING OUT OF LINE, 207 00:14:14,689 --> 00:14:17,206 THEY WOULD SIT THE PERSON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM, 208 00:14:17,206 --> 00:14:20,206 AND EVERYONE ELSE WOULD SIT AROUND IN A CIRCLE. 209 00:14:20,206 --> 00:14:21,758 AND THEY WOULD, UH, 210 00:14:21,758 --> 00:14:26,413 HURL VARIOUS ACCUSATIONS AT YOU AND -- 211 00:14:26,413 --> 00:14:29,862 AND, YOU KNOW, TELL YOU HOW... WHAT A TERRIBLE PERSON YOU WERE. 212 00:14:29,862 --> 00:14:32,000 AND THEY WOULD DO THAT ALL NIGHT LONG. 213 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,827 THE FIRST SESSION I WAS SUBJECT TO WENT ON FOR HOURS 214 00:14:38,827 --> 00:14:41,206 AND HOURS AND HOURS. 215 00:14:41,206 --> 00:14:44,655 AND IT WAS TO JUST TEAR YOU DOWN. 216 00:14:46,689 --> 00:14:51,482 TO NOT SAY ANYTHING THAT JEFF WOULD NOT SAY HIMSELF, 217 00:14:51,482 --> 00:14:56,172 NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT JEFF DID NOT BELIEVE HIMSELF. 218 00:14:56,172 --> 00:14:58,206 THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OF ONE HEART 219 00:14:58,206 --> 00:15:01,620 AND ONE MIND WITH JEFF. 220 00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:05,724 I JUST SAT THERE AND TOOK WHATEVER THEY SAID 221 00:15:05,724 --> 00:15:08,517 AND DIDN'T RESPOND. 222 00:15:08,517 --> 00:15:11,413 YOU RESIST THE BEST YOU CAN. 223 00:15:11,413 --> 00:15:15,862 AND IT TENDED TO... 224 00:15:15,862 --> 00:15:18,862 DRIVE PEOPLE APART. 225 00:15:18,862 --> 00:15:21,413 THERE WAS NOT ANYONE THAT YOU COULD TRUST. 226 00:15:28,172 --> 00:15:30,172 Currie: AS TIME WENT ON, 227 00:15:30,172 --> 00:15:33,310 HE BECAME MORE AND MORE CONTROLLING, 228 00:15:33,310 --> 00:15:36,724 TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN ONE PLACE. 229 00:15:36,724 --> 00:15:39,137 AND THAT ONE PLACE WAS UNDER HIS THUMB. 230 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:48,724 JEFFREY WANTED TO KILL EVERYONE 231 00:15:48,724 --> 00:15:51,379 WITHIN A 1 MILE RADIUS OF THE TEMPLE. 232 00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:12,034 GOD WILLS US TO CAST ASIDE THOSE WHO ARE WEAK. 233 00:16:20,448 --> 00:16:22,586 Currie: THE FIRST TIME THAT I EVER HEARD JEFFREY 234 00:16:22,586 --> 00:16:25,275 MENTION MURDERING ANYBODY, 235 00:16:25,275 --> 00:16:28,517 THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS QUITE A SHOCK. 236 00:16:28,517 --> 00:16:32,034 A NONBELIEVER AMONGST US. 237 00:16:32,034 --> 00:16:34,206 WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? 238 00:16:34,206 --> 00:16:37,448 Johnson: WE WERE IN CLASS, AND JEFF BEGAN, UH, 239 00:16:37,448 --> 00:16:39,379 TALKING ABOUT THE AVERYS. 240 00:16:47,482 --> 00:16:51,172 INSUBORDINATE WOMAN, INTERRUPTIVE CHILDREN, 241 00:16:51,172 --> 00:16:55,517 AND A MAN WHO CAN'T CONTROL HIS LIFE. 242 00:16:55,517 --> 00:16:56,862 THAT WILL BRING US ALL DOWN. 243 00:16:56,862 --> 00:16:59,448 HE DIDN'T LIKE DENNIS 'CAUSE HE WAS WEAK 244 00:16:59,448 --> 00:17:03,034 AND HE WAS CONFRONTATIONAL. 245 00:17:03,034 --> 00:17:05,619 I GUESS HE ASKED TOO MANY QUESTIONS OR QUE-- 246 00:17:05,619 --> 00:17:08,448 YOU KNOW, QUESTIONED JEFF'S LEADERSHIP TOO MUCH. 247 00:17:12,517 --> 00:17:17,137 MR. AVERY WAS A MILD-MANNERED, UH, PERSON 248 00:17:17,137 --> 00:17:21,758 WHO WAS LED AROUND BY HIS WIFE. 249 00:17:21,758 --> 00:17:25,619 AND JEFFREY BELIEVED THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE 250 00:17:25,619 --> 00:17:27,000 THE PAIR OF COJONES 251 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,517 TO STAND UP TO HER. 252 00:17:29,517 --> 00:17:32,344 HE SAID POINT-BLANK, "THE AVERYS AREN'T GOING TO MAKE IT." 253 00:17:32,344 --> 00:17:34,655 THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE KILLED. 254 00:17:34,655 --> 00:17:38,172 IF THEE OWN EYE 255 00:17:38,172 --> 00:17:40,655 OFFEND THEE, 256 00:17:40,655 --> 00:17:42,620 PLUCK IT OUT. 257 00:17:42,620 --> 00:17:46,275 REMOVE IT FROM THY VIEW. 258 00:17:46,275 --> 00:17:51,241 LET'S REMOVE DENNIS AVERY 259 00:17:51,241 --> 00:17:53,103 FROM OUR VIEW. 260 00:17:53,103 --> 00:17:57,931 BUT I NEVER THOUGHT JEFFREY WOULD GO TO THAT EXTENT, 261 00:17:57,931 --> 00:18:02,000 TO, UH, TO MURDER ANYBODY. 262 00:18:19,862 --> 00:18:21,344 AND WHEN I PRAYED TO THE LORD, 263 00:18:21,344 --> 00:18:25,551 THE LORD SAID, "A MAN WILL DIE." 264 00:18:25,551 --> 00:18:30,862 Johnson: MY WIFE AND -- KATHY AND I, WE MET WITH JEFF, 265 00:18:30,862 --> 00:18:32,206 AND, UH, JEFF 266 00:18:32,206 --> 00:18:34,827 EXPLAINED THAT, UH, DENNIS PATRICK 267 00:18:34,827 --> 00:18:37,586 WAS GOING TO BE KILLED 268 00:18:37,586 --> 00:18:41,275 UNLESS HE COULD FIND SOMEONE TO INTERCEDE FOR HIM. 269 00:18:41,275 --> 00:18:46,655 AND "INTERCEDE" MEANT "HAVE ORAL SEX WITH JEFF." 270 00:18:52,620 --> 00:18:55,965 I -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE COMING TO US WITH THIS. 271 00:18:59,758 --> 00:19:05,586 TODAY, KATHY WILL SAVE A MAN'S LIFE. 272 00:19:05,586 --> 00:19:10,379 AND, UH, KATHY SAID SHE WOULD. 273 00:19:16,758 --> 00:19:19,517 I VOLUNTEERED. 274 00:19:19,517 --> 00:19:21,241 IT'S GOD'S WILL. 275 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:32,344 IN... 276 00:19:32,344 --> 00:19:38,931 UNDER THE RULES THAT JEFF HAD ESTABLISHED, UH, 277 00:19:38,931 --> 00:19:42,896 I HAD TO CONSENT AS WELL. 278 00:19:42,896 --> 00:19:44,655 IF SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE IS ON THE LINE, 279 00:19:44,655 --> 00:19:47,482 YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS YOU -- YOU NEVER IMAGINED 280 00:19:47,482 --> 00:19:50,655 YOU COULD DO. 281 00:19:50,655 --> 00:19:54,448 AND SO, UH... 282 00:19:54,448 --> 00:19:56,344 I CONSENTED. 283 00:20:05,517 --> 00:20:09,241 WHEN YOU DON'T SEE ANY -- ANY OTHER OPTION, 284 00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:12,310 UH... 285 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:14,517 WHAT ELSE DO YOU DO? 286 00:20:18,206 --> 00:20:21,620 [ INHALES, SIGHS ] 287 00:20:23,241 --> 00:20:25,413 WELL, YOU BETTER TURN THAT OFF FOR A MINUTE. 288 00:20:32,137 --> 00:20:34,896 WE LOOK AT THEM WITH DISDAIN 289 00:20:34,896 --> 00:20:37,241 BECAUSE WE ARE THE PURE. 290 00:20:37,241 --> 00:20:39,000 THEY'LL PAY. 291 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,517 THEY'LL BE PUNISHED. 292 00:20:40,517 --> 00:20:41,896 Currie; JEFFREY'S TEACHINGS 293 00:20:41,896 --> 00:20:44,620 BEGAN TO GET DARKER FROM THAT POINT ON. 294 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:47,310 WHEN IT CAME TO THE TEACHINGS OF THE SCRIPTURES, 295 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:51,172 JEFFREY FOCUSED IN ON THE HORRORS AND THE VIOLENCE. 296 00:20:51,172 --> 00:20:56,482 AND HE WAS TEACHING THAT HE WAS A WARRIOR-PROPHET, 297 00:20:56,482 --> 00:20:59,482 THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO BE LIKE A WARRIOR. 298 00:21:11,965 --> 00:21:15,413 Currie: JEFFREY HAD US SITTING AROUND THE DINING ROOM TABLE. 299 00:21:15,413 --> 00:21:18,379 AND HE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, 300 00:21:18,379 --> 00:21:20,206 KIRTLAND TEMPLE. 301 00:21:20,206 --> 00:21:24,413 RIGHT NOW THE CHURCH IS FILLED WITH LIARS. 302 00:21:24,413 --> 00:21:26,482 NONBELIEVERS! 303 00:21:28,931 --> 00:21:31,448 Currie: THE KIRTLAND TEMPLE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE PLACE 304 00:21:31,448 --> 00:21:34,724 WHERE CHRIST COMES BACK TO THE EARTH. 305 00:21:34,724 --> 00:21:39,965 ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO FOSTER THE LORD'S RETURN? 306 00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:44,827 BUT JEFFREY WAS EXCOMMUNICATED FROM THE CHURCH IN PART 307 00:21:44,827 --> 00:21:47,413 BECAUSE OF HIS TEACHINGS. 308 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,827 JEFFREY WANTED TO KILL EVERYONE 309 00:21:57,827 --> 00:22:02,000 WITHIN A 1 MILE RADIUS OF THE TEMPLE 310 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,206 AND TAKE OVER THE TEMPLE 311 00:22:04,206 --> 00:22:08,517 SO HE COULD BRING CHRIST INTO THE WORLD. 312 00:22:08,517 --> 00:22:09,862 HE WAS MAKING PLANS 313 00:22:09,862 --> 00:22:14,275 TO MURDER FAMILIES LAYING IN THEIR BEDS, 314 00:22:14,275 --> 00:22:16,448 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN. 315 00:22:16,448 --> 00:22:20,517 HE WAS TALKING ABOUT 50 OR 60 PEOPLE. 316 00:22:20,517 --> 00:22:24,517 THE PEOPLE OF THE CHURCH DO NOT DESERVE TO LIVE. 317 00:22:26,551 --> 00:22:30,620 Currie: HE THEN TOLD US WHAT OUR DUTIES WERE GOING TO BE 318 00:22:30,620 --> 00:22:34,000 AND WHO WE WERE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING. 319 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,689 HE EXPECTED US TO, UH, 320 00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:39,724 TO FOLLOW HIM, THE WARRIOR-PROPHET, 321 00:22:39,724 --> 00:22:41,482 INTO BATTLE. 322 00:22:48,517 --> 00:22:52,689 THERE WAS A HUSH... A QUIET THAT CAME OVER THE ROOM. 323 00:22:52,689 --> 00:22:55,655 EVERYONE WAS ON KIND OF LIKE PINS AND NEEDLES, 324 00:22:55,655 --> 00:22:59,931 SITTING THERE WITH THEIR JAWS OPEN. 325 00:22:59,931 --> 00:23:02,758 THERE WASN'T ANYONE OF US THAT OBJECTED. 326 00:23:02,758 --> 00:23:08,344 NOBODY WOULD OBJECT BECAUSE HE WAS THE PROPHET. 327 00:23:08,344 --> 00:23:12,241 EVERYONE JUST SAT IN SILENCE, BASICALLY. 328 00:23:12,241 --> 00:23:15,344 OR I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY EXPECTED TO HAVE TO DO 329 00:23:15,344 --> 00:23:17,655 WHAT JEFFREY WAS ASKING THEM TO DO. 330 00:23:25,241 --> 00:23:29,586 JEFFREY, UH, BROUGHT OUT SOME OF THE ARMORY THAT HE HAD. 331 00:23:29,586 --> 00:23:33,241 HE WANTED TO FAMILIARIZE US WITH THESE WEAPONS 332 00:23:33,241 --> 00:23:35,724 SO WE KNEW HOW TO HANDLE THEM. 333 00:23:35,724 --> 00:23:39,586 YOU MUST KNOW THAT I AM SERIOUS. 334 00:23:39,586 --> 00:23:42,965 WHEN I SAW THESE WEAPONS, I KNEW HE MEANT WHAT HE INTENDED. 335 00:23:42,965 --> 00:23:44,379 HE -- 336 00:23:44,379 --> 00:23:46,551 HE JUST WASN'T GONNA BACK DOWN. 337 00:23:46,551 --> 00:23:49,862 YOU WILL BE MY HOLY WARRIORS. 338 00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:51,758 HE PASSED THE .45 AROUND, UH, 339 00:23:51,758 --> 00:23:58,448 THE TABLE, WANTED TO HAVE EVERYBODY FEEL THE WEIGHT OF IT. 340 00:23:58,448 --> 00:24:01,275 HE DID THE SAME THING WITH THE AK-47. 341 00:24:03,689 --> 00:24:07,724 AND IT BECAME MY TURN TO HOLD ONTO IT. 342 00:24:07,724 --> 00:24:11,137 I HAD TO PRETEND THAT, UH, 343 00:24:11,137 --> 00:24:13,103 THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO, UH, 344 00:24:13,103 --> 00:24:15,379 TO KILL FOR JEFFREY, 345 00:24:15,379 --> 00:24:17,137 FOR THE PROPHET, JEFFREY. 346 00:24:24,586 --> 00:24:30,000 I HAD TO MAINTAIN A STRAIGHT FACE 347 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,482 WITHOUT HIM SEEING HOW AFFECTED I WAS 348 00:24:33,482 --> 00:24:36,000 BY WHAT HE WAS SAYING. 349 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,241 SO I JUST KEPT MY FACE DOWN 350 00:24:38,241 --> 00:24:41,482 AND I FOUGHT WITH EVERY -- 351 00:24:41,482 --> 00:24:44,034 EVERY PARTICLE OF MY BEING NOT TO REVEAL 352 00:24:44,034 --> 00:24:45,689 WHAT I WAS THINKING. 353 00:24:45,689 --> 00:24:49,034 AND I WAS THINKING THAT THE MAN WAS ACTUALLY... 354 00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:50,551 GONE OVER THE EDGE. 355 00:25:01,586 --> 00:25:04,068 IF THAT WASN'T A SURPRISE ENOUGH, 356 00:25:04,068 --> 00:25:09,137 HE ALSO SAID THAT ONLY 12 OF US WERE GONNA SURVIVE. 357 00:25:09,137 --> 00:25:13,655 THERE WAS, UH, 16 OF US SITTING AROUND THE TABLE, 358 00:25:13,655 --> 00:25:16,931 WHICH MEANT FOUR OF US WEREN'T GOING TO SURVIVE. 359 00:25:16,931 --> 00:25:18,793 MY HEART SANK INTO MY STOMACH 360 00:25:18,793 --> 00:25:21,931 BECAUSE I KNEW JEFFREY WAS GOING TO KILL ME. 361 00:25:32,448 --> 00:25:35,310 ♪♪ 362 00:25:38,482 --> 00:25:40,620 I KNEW IF I LOOKED AT HIM 363 00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:43,000 HE WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT I WAS THINKING. 364 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,689 I HAD TO MAINTAIN A STRAIGHT FACE 365 00:25:53,689 --> 00:25:56,275 AND NOT REACT TO IT. 366 00:25:56,275 --> 00:25:57,793 AND I HAD TO PRETEND THAT, UH, 367 00:25:57,793 --> 00:26:00,344 I WAS WILLING TO GO ALONG WITH, UH, 368 00:26:00,344 --> 00:26:02,172 WITH THE ATTACK. 369 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:11,310 THERE WERE 16 PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE. 370 00:26:11,310 --> 00:26:13,655 FOUR OF US WERE GONNA HAVE TO DIE. 371 00:26:16,344 --> 00:26:18,103 I DIDN'T FLEE AT THAT MOMENT 372 00:26:18,103 --> 00:26:21,551 BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID OF JEFFREY. 373 00:26:21,551 --> 00:26:23,827 IT WAS THAT SIMPLE. 374 00:26:23,827 --> 00:26:27,034 HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY WHO WAS GOING TO BE KILLED. 375 00:26:27,034 --> 00:26:31,103 BUT HAVING KNOWN JEFFREY FOR SO LONG, 376 00:26:31,103 --> 00:26:34,448 HE COULD TELL THAT I WANTED TO LEAVE. 377 00:26:34,448 --> 00:26:37,482 AND HE WOULDN'T LET ME LEAVE. 378 00:26:37,482 --> 00:26:39,206 I KNOW HE WOULDN'T LET ME LEAVE. 379 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,724 THERE WAS A CAKE THAT WAS SERVED ONE DAY FOR, UH, 380 00:26:55,724 --> 00:26:58,172 FOR DINNER, AFTER DINNER. 381 00:26:58,172 --> 00:27:01,793 AND, UH, KRISTEN SAID, "WHO'S THE CAKE FOR?" 382 00:27:01,793 --> 00:27:05,862 AND JEFFREY SAID, "IT'S KEVIN'S GOING-AWAY CAKE." 383 00:27:08,724 --> 00:27:13,448 I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE WORDS THAT CAN DESCRIBE THE MOMENT. 384 00:27:13,448 --> 00:27:16,103 HE KIND OF BLEW IT OFF LIKE HE WAS JUST JOKING, 385 00:27:16,103 --> 00:27:18,310 BUT I TOOK THAT AS A THREAT. 386 00:27:21,137 --> 00:27:23,310 MY HEART SANK INTO MY STOMACH 387 00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:27,793 BECAUSE I KNEW THAT JEFFREY WAS GOING TO KILL ME. 388 00:27:27,793 --> 00:27:33,862 MY BEST FRIEND WAS WILLING TO TAKE MY LIFE 389 00:27:33,862 --> 00:27:37,862 TO APPEASE HIS GOD. 390 00:27:37,862 --> 00:27:41,275 MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO GET OUT OF THERE. 391 00:27:41,275 --> 00:27:44,379 I JUST NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THERE. 392 00:27:44,379 --> 00:27:47,310 SO THE FOLLOWING MORNING, I GOT UP AS NORMAL. 393 00:27:47,310 --> 00:27:48,862 I GOT DRESSED. 394 00:27:48,862 --> 00:27:51,896 AND I PUT MY SCRIPTURES IN MY BACKPACK. 395 00:27:51,896 --> 00:27:53,896 AND I CALLED A FRIEND IN BUFFALO 396 00:27:53,896 --> 00:27:56,000 TO BUY ME A BUS TICKET. 397 00:27:58,379 --> 00:28:01,206 AND I GOT ON A BUS AND WENT BACK TO BUFFALO. 398 00:28:09,448 --> 00:28:11,724 I DIDN'T LEAVE ANY FORWARDING ADDRESSES. 399 00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:13,724 I DIDN'T LEAVE ANY NAMES. 400 00:28:13,724 --> 00:28:16,344 I DIDN'T LEAVE ANY PHONE NUMBERS. 401 00:28:16,344 --> 00:28:18,172 I DIDN'T LEAVE ANYTHING FOR HIM TO, 402 00:28:18,172 --> 00:28:20,172 UH, BE ABLE TO TRACK ME DOWN. 403 00:28:30,551 --> 00:28:32,206 I WAS SO SCARED I DIDN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE 404 00:28:32,206 --> 00:28:34,241 FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. 405 00:28:34,241 --> 00:28:37,103 AND I KEPT PEEKING OUT THE WINDOWS 406 00:28:37,103 --> 00:28:39,655 TO SEE -- TO SEE IF ANYBODY WAS AROUND 407 00:28:39,655 --> 00:28:41,448 OR THAT I RECOGNIZED. 408 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,862 I FELT LIKE I WAS BEING FOLLOWED. 409 00:28:48,862 --> 00:28:51,275 I WASN'T SLEEPING 410 00:28:51,275 --> 00:28:55,862 BECAUSE I KEPT EXPECTING JEFFREY TO KNOCK AT THE DOOR. 411 00:28:55,862 --> 00:28:58,827 HE COULDN'T FIND ME. 412 00:28:58,827 --> 00:29:03,000 BUT I KNEW THAT HE WANTED TO. 413 00:29:13,241 --> 00:29:16,172 JEFF, UH, ASKED FROM TIME TO TIME 414 00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:18,655 IF ANYONE HAD HEARD FROM KEVIN CURRIE. 415 00:29:18,655 --> 00:29:22,206 HE WANTED TO KNOW WHERE HE WAS. 416 00:29:22,206 --> 00:29:26,206 KEITH, LET'S TALK FOR A MOMENT. 417 00:29:26,206 --> 00:29:29,793 AND HE ALWAYS SAID, "I JUST WANT TO -- 418 00:29:29,793 --> 00:29:32,965 TO TELL KEVIN THAT EVERYTHING IS GOOD BETWEEN US." 419 00:29:32,965 --> 00:29:35,241 YOU KNOW WHERE HE IS? 420 00:29:35,241 --> 00:29:37,586 NO. 421 00:29:37,586 --> 00:29:40,241 I MEAN, I'M JUST... I'M WORRIED FOR HIM. 422 00:29:40,241 --> 00:29:43,482 RIGHT. 423 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:46,896 BUT KEVIN KEPT ABSOLUTELY OFF THE RADAR, 424 00:29:46,896 --> 00:29:49,551 DIDN'T CONTACT FRIENDS OR FAMILY 425 00:29:49,551 --> 00:29:53,275 AND MOVED EVERY 2 OR 3 MONTHS. 426 00:29:53,275 --> 00:29:55,620 I SHOULDN'T WORRY. WHY AM I WORRIED? 427 00:29:55,620 --> 00:29:58,068 THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT. 428 00:29:58,068 --> 00:30:00,137 I DON'T THINK THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, 429 00:30:00,137 --> 00:30:03,379 ANY IDEA OF RECONCILIATION. 430 00:30:03,379 --> 00:30:05,000 WHAT HE WAS PROBABLY SAYING 431 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,310 WAS, "I JUST WANT YOU TO COME BACK, KEVIN, 432 00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:09,103 SO I CAN KILL YOU." 433 00:30:09,103 --> 00:30:12,896 I THINK HE ABSOLUTELY WANTED TO KILL KEVIN CURRIE. 434 00:30:21,862 --> 00:30:25,103 HI! CAN I -- CAN I -- CAN I TALK TO AN AGENT? 435 00:30:25,103 --> 00:30:27,172 I WAS IN HIDING, UH, FOR ABOUT A MONTH 436 00:30:27,172 --> 00:30:29,310 BEFORE I WENT TO THE FBI. 437 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:32,482 THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN -- IN OHIO. 438 00:30:32,482 --> 00:30:34,655 I WAITED TO GO TO THE FBI 439 00:30:34,655 --> 00:30:38,931 BECAUSE I KNEW I HAD UNTIL MAY 3. 440 00:30:38,931 --> 00:30:44,413 MAY 3 WAS GOING TO BE THE DATE THAT WE, UH, STORMED THE TEMPLE. 441 00:30:46,758 --> 00:30:48,689 THEY'RE PLANNING A MASSACRE. 442 00:30:48,689 --> 00:30:50,689 THEY'RE -- THEY'RE -- THEY'RE GONNA KILL EVERYONE. 443 00:30:50,689 --> 00:30:54,172 I TOLD THE FBI EVERYTHING 444 00:30:54,172 --> 00:30:57,517 FROM THE BEGINNING OF MY ARRIVING IN KIRTLAND. 445 00:30:57,517 --> 00:30:59,448 I TOLD THEM ABOUT THE PLAN 446 00:30:59,448 --> 00:31:02,068 TO TAKE OVER THE KIRTLAND TEMPLE. 447 00:31:02,068 --> 00:31:04,413 I TOLD THEM JUST EVERYTHING. 448 00:31:17,517 --> 00:31:20,137 THERE WERE NO LIGHTS ON. THERE WERE NO CARS PARKED THERE. 449 00:31:20,137 --> 00:31:22,137 THE PLACE LOOKED VACANT. 450 00:31:24,896 --> 00:31:27,862 INSIDE THE HOUSE, CLOSETS WERE CLEANED OUT. 451 00:31:27,862 --> 00:31:32,517 IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE ANYBODY WAS THERE TO STAY. 452 00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:34,758 WE HAD NO IDEA WHERE THEY HAD GONE TO 453 00:31:34,758 --> 00:31:36,517 OR WHAT WAS GOING ON. 454 00:31:43,241 --> 00:31:47,137 Currie: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. 455 00:31:47,137 --> 00:31:50,034 WHAT -- WHAT WAS HE GOING TO DO? 456 00:31:50,034 --> 00:31:53,000 MAY 3 CAME AND WENT, 457 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,206 AND NOTHING HAPPENED ON MAY 3. 458 00:31:56,206 --> 00:31:57,931 I WOULD LAY THERE TOSSING AND TURNING, 459 00:31:57,931 --> 00:32:01,517 AND I WOULD END UP GETTING UP AND WATCHING TELEVISION. 460 00:32:01,517 --> 00:32:05,413 I WATCHED THE NEWS, LOOKING FOR JEFFREY. 461 00:32:05,413 --> 00:32:08,793 I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM THE FBI, UH, 462 00:32:08,793 --> 00:32:10,413 FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. 463 00:32:10,413 --> 00:32:14,137 [ TELEPHONE RINGING ] 464 00:32:19,275 --> 00:32:24,000 THE POLICE CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THAT THEY FOUND THE BODIES. 465 00:32:36,827 --> 00:32:41,275 [ TELEPHONE RINGING ] 466 00:32:41,275 --> 00:32:43,068 YEAH? 467 00:32:43,068 --> 00:32:45,517 THE PHONE RANG. AND I PICKED IT UP. 468 00:32:45,517 --> 00:32:47,206 AND IT WAS CHIEF YARBOROUGH. 469 00:32:54,344 --> 00:32:58,793 HE TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD FOUND BODIES 470 00:32:58,793 --> 00:33:01,724 AND THAT THEY HAD BEEN BURIED IN THE BARN. 471 00:33:12,275 --> 00:33:15,206 HE TOLD ME THAT, UH, JOHNSON -- KEITH JOHNSON -- 472 00:33:15,206 --> 00:33:18,758 HAD GIVEN THEM A TIP. 473 00:33:18,758 --> 00:33:20,448 AND THAT'S HOW THEY FOUND THEM. 474 00:33:38,448 --> 00:33:40,896 SO WE -- WE GOT UP AND -- 475 00:33:40,896 --> 00:33:45,689 AND, UH, WENT OVER TO THE CLASS. 476 00:33:45,689 --> 00:33:51,068 UH, AFTER EVERYONE HAD SHOWED UP, 477 00:33:51,068 --> 00:33:54,310 JEFF CAME IN AND SAID, "THE AVERYS ARE DEAD." 478 00:34:06,793 --> 00:34:10,103 HE TALKED ABOUT, UH, 479 00:34:10,103 --> 00:34:14,344 KILLING DENNIS AND HOW HE DIED VERY EASILY. 480 00:34:14,344 --> 00:34:17,516 JEFF HAD TAKEN, UH, 481 00:34:17,516 --> 00:34:18,931 DENNIS AVERY TO THE BARN 482 00:34:18,931 --> 00:34:22,724 AND BOUND HIM WITH DUCT TAPE 483 00:34:22,724 --> 00:34:24,482 AND, UH, 484 00:34:24,482 --> 00:34:26,757 PUSHED HIM INTO THE PIT 485 00:34:26,757 --> 00:34:28,516 AND SHOT HIM THERE. 486 00:34:33,793 --> 00:34:37,620 NEXT WAS, UM, CHERYL AVERY. 487 00:34:39,793 --> 00:34:43,827 JEFF HAD SAID THAT -- THAT SHE FOUGHT A LOT HARDER THAN -- 488 00:34:43,827 --> 00:34:45,413 THAN DENNIS. 489 00:34:45,413 --> 00:34:48,379 HE SHOT HER -- YEAH, PUSHED HER INTO THE PIT 490 00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:50,896 AND SHOT HER, 491 00:34:50,896 --> 00:34:55,137 THEN BROUGHT IN ONE OF THE GIRLS 492 00:34:55,137 --> 00:34:56,620 AND, UH, 493 00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:58,620 AND PUSHED HER IN THE PIT AND SHOT HER. 494 00:34:58,620 --> 00:35:00,275 BUT SHE DIDN'T DIE. 495 00:35:00,275 --> 00:35:03,172 SHE WAS STILL STRUGGLING. SO HE SHOT HER AGAIN. 496 00:35:03,172 --> 00:35:04,448 AND SHE STILL WOULDN'T DIE AND, 497 00:35:04,448 --> 00:35:07,586 I BELIEVE HE SHOT HER A THIRD TIME. 498 00:35:07,586 --> 00:35:11,551 AND THEN, UH, HE SHOT THE, UH, 499 00:35:11,551 --> 00:35:13,310 LAST TWO. 500 00:35:20,517 --> 00:35:25,448 AND, UM, JEFF WASN'T REMORSEFUL AT ALL. 501 00:35:25,448 --> 00:35:27,551 HE, UH... 502 00:35:27,551 --> 00:35:32,000 SEEMED RATHER CHEERFUL ABOUT IT ALL, 503 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,206 KIND OF LIKE A -- 504 00:35:34,206 --> 00:35:36,275 A SCIENTIST DISSECTING A BUG. 505 00:35:36,275 --> 00:35:38,689 HE DISSECTED THE MURDERS. 506 00:35:46,482 --> 00:35:50,482 AND HE CALLED ON EVERY PERSON ONE BY ONE 507 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:56,758 TO TELL THEM HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THE AVERYS' DEATHS. 508 00:35:58,655 --> 00:36:00,344 I WAS DEVASTATED. 509 00:36:00,344 --> 00:36:04,586 BUT I DIDN'T PUT IT IN THOSE EXACT WORDS. 510 00:36:04,586 --> 00:36:07,137 PEOPLE IN THE GROUP DIDN'T COMPLAIN ANYMORE, 511 00:36:07,137 --> 00:36:11,689 OR THERE WAS A -- A PLACE OUT IN THE BARN FOR YOU. 512 00:36:24,551 --> 00:36:26,965 I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO -- 513 00:36:26,965 --> 00:36:30,586 TO KILL PEOPLE AGAIN, AND I HAD TO DO IT. 514 00:36:30,586 --> 00:36:35,827 I TOLD HIM EVERYTHING I COULD REMEMBER ABOUT THE MURDERS. 515 00:36:35,827 --> 00:36:38,758 THEN THEY, UH, ASKED ME TO -- 516 00:36:38,758 --> 00:36:40,586 TO DRAW A PICTURE 517 00:36:40,586 --> 00:36:44,000 OF WHERE I THOUGHT THE BODIES WERE. 518 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,551 AND SO I -- I DREW 'EM A MAP OF THE BARN. 519 00:36:47,551 --> 00:36:51,000 THERE WAS JUST SUCH AN OVERWHELMING SENSE OF RELIEF, 520 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,413 OF FINALLY BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. 521 00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:58,758 AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY BELIEVED ME. 522 00:37:00,827 --> 00:37:02,172 Reporter: IT TOOK ABOUT 8 HOURS 523 00:37:02,172 --> 00:37:03,862 FOR LOCAL POLICE AND FEDERAL AGENTS 524 00:37:03,862 --> 00:37:05,655 TO DIG THROUGH THE FLOOR OF THE BARN 525 00:37:05,655 --> 00:37:08,206 AND EXHUME THE BODIES. 526 00:37:08,206 --> 00:37:10,413 IT WAS A COLD MORNING. 527 00:37:10,413 --> 00:37:14,379 THE GROUND WAS REAL WET, HEAVY CLAY. 528 00:37:14,379 --> 00:37:17,379 AS WE STARTED DIGGING FARTHER AND FARTHER BELOW, 529 00:37:17,379 --> 00:37:20,793 THERE WAS A REAL PUTRID ODOR COMING OUT OF THE PIT. 530 00:37:22,965 --> 00:37:26,413 AND I STARTED TO GAG. 531 00:37:26,413 --> 00:37:28,241 AS EACH BODY WAS DISCOVERED, 532 00:37:28,241 --> 00:37:29,620 WE DISCOVERED THERE WAS DUCT TAPE 533 00:37:29,620 --> 00:37:34,241 ON THE FACE, HANDS AND THE LEGS. 534 00:37:34,241 --> 00:37:39,517 I BEGAN TO MENTALLY IMAGINE THE BRUTALITY, 535 00:37:39,517 --> 00:37:44,310 HOW INDIFFERENT AND CRUEL AND INHUMANE IT WAS. 536 00:37:51,517 --> 00:37:53,620 [ TELEPHONE RINGING ] 537 00:37:57,241 --> 00:38:00,586 Currie: IT WAS A DIFFICULT PHONE CALL TO LISTEN TO. 538 00:38:00,586 --> 00:38:03,793 THE AVERYS WERE AN INNOCENT FAMILY 539 00:38:03,793 --> 00:38:07,724 WHO WERE THERE BECAUSE THEY LIKED JEFFREY. 540 00:38:07,724 --> 00:38:10,724 THEY WANTED TO FOLLOW JEFFREY. 541 00:38:10,724 --> 00:38:15,344 AND, UH, IT ENDED UP RUINING THEIR LIVES. 542 00:38:18,586 --> 00:38:21,655 I WAS JUST SO BESIDE MYSELF. 543 00:38:21,655 --> 00:38:25,413 IT WAS JUST SO SHOCKING 544 00:38:25,413 --> 00:38:29,413 THAT I DIDN'T HAVE WORDS FOR HIM 545 00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:31,586 BECAUSE I WAS SO ANGRY. 546 00:38:31,586 --> 00:38:34,103 AS MUCH AS I KNEW HE DIDN'T LIKE THEM, 547 00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:38,482 I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT HE DID IT. 548 00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:40,206 HE ACTUALLY DID IT. 549 00:38:51,379 --> 00:38:55,241 I TURNED THE NEWS ON. THEY SHOWED THE -- 550 00:38:55,241 --> 00:38:58,586 THE, UH, FARMHOUSE, AND THEY SHOWED THE BARN. 551 00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,689 Reporter: THE BODY OF A MAN WAS FOUND LAST NIGHT, 552 00:39:00,689 --> 00:39:03,655 TWO OR THREE OTHERS THIS AFTERNOON. 553 00:39:03,655 --> 00:39:05,034 Currie: AND THEY TALKED ABOUT, 554 00:39:05,034 --> 00:39:09,172 UH, THAT'S WHERE THE MURDERS TOOK PLACE. 555 00:39:09,172 --> 00:39:11,413 Reporter: DENNIS AND CHERYL AVERY WANTED OUT. 556 00:39:11,413 --> 00:39:13,172 I'M TOLD THAT'S WHEN THE AVERYS 557 00:39:13,172 --> 00:39:15,172 AND THEIR THREE LITTLE GIRLS WERE EXECUTED, 558 00:39:15,172 --> 00:39:17,241 THEIR BODIES BURIED IN THE BARN. 559 00:39:22,275 --> 00:39:24,172 I SAT AND CRIED KNOWING THAT THAT'S 560 00:39:24,172 --> 00:39:26,172 WHERE THE AVERYS WERE KILLED. 561 00:39:50,827 --> 00:39:55,862 Lundgren: MR. AVERY SOUGHT TO LEAD PEOPLE TO FALSE GODS. 562 00:39:55,862 --> 00:39:59,241 AND YES, I PUT HIM TO DEATH. 563 00:39:59,241 --> 00:40:01,172 THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE. 564 00:40:06,827 --> 00:40:08,655 Lundgren: I CAN NOT SAY THAT I'M SORRY 565 00:40:08,655 --> 00:40:12,310 I DID WHAT GOD COMMANDED ME TO DO. 566 00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:14,965 I AM A PROPHET OF GOD. 567 00:40:53,689 --> 00:40:55,931 Johnson: LOOKING BACK, YOU WONDER ABOUT 568 00:40:55,931 --> 00:40:59,448 ALL THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES 569 00:40:59,448 --> 00:41:01,620 AND WHAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. 570 00:41:04,655 --> 00:41:07,724 EVEN TO THIS DAY, THE -- 571 00:41:07,724 --> 00:41:11,137 THE MURDERS, UH, NEVER GO AWAY. 572 00:41:11,137 --> 00:41:14,620 THEY CONTINUALLY BREAK MY HEART 573 00:41:14,620 --> 00:41:16,793 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THEM. 574 00:41:20,137 --> 00:41:24,724 I FEEL DESPERATELY SORRY THAT THEY LOST THEIR LIVES 575 00:41:24,724 --> 00:41:28,586 WHEN THEY HAD SO MUCH MORE LIFE TO GO. 576 00:41:30,896 --> 00:41:34,275 SEEING THE PHOTOS MAKES YOU, UH... 577 00:41:38,551 --> 00:41:41,862 YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY MUST'VE LOVED ONE ANOTHER. 578 00:41:45,344 --> 00:41:49,103 AND THINK ABOUT THE -- THE TRUST -- 579 00:41:49,103 --> 00:41:52,586 THE MISPLACED TRUST THEY PUT IN JEFF LIKE, 580 00:41:52,586 --> 00:41:55,862 UH, SO MANY OF US DID. 581 00:41:55,862 --> 00:42:00,172 AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THEY -- 582 00:42:00,172 --> 00:42:03,586 THEY WENT THROUGH. 583 00:42:03,586 --> 00:42:05,034 I'M GONNA TURN THE PAGE 584 00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:07,000 BECAUSE I CAN'T LOOK AT 'EM ANYMORE. 585 00:42:24,793 --> 00:42:27,310 Currie: IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT. 586 00:42:27,310 --> 00:42:30,344 JEFFREY, UH, BETRAYED ME. 587 00:42:30,344 --> 00:42:33,931 I THOUGHT I WAS A FAMILY MEMBER, 588 00:42:33,931 --> 00:42:36,310 AND I THOUGHT I WAS A BROTHER AND SISTER 589 00:42:36,310 --> 00:42:37,931 TO BOTH OF THEM, 590 00:42:37,931 --> 00:42:40,103 TO, UH, HIM AND HIS WIFE. 591 00:42:40,103 --> 00:42:42,344 IT REALLY AND DEEPLY HURT ME. 592 00:42:44,965 --> 00:42:49,689 I WAS, UH, SO THRILLED, UH, 593 00:42:49,689 --> 00:42:52,068 IN THE BEGINNING TO, UH, TO HA-- 594 00:42:52,068 --> 00:42:55,344 TO BE A PART OF A FAMILY. 595 00:42:55,344 --> 00:43:00,758 AND, UH, I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED IN THE END. 596 00:43:00,758 --> 00:43:02,724 I FOUND I BLAMED MYSELF. 597 00:43:12,310 --> 00:43:18,241 THE FEAR THAT THEY MUST'VE FELT BEING TAKEN 598 00:43:18,241 --> 00:43:22,586 INTO THE, UH, BARN, ONE BY ONE... 599 00:43:22,586 --> 00:43:25,068 EVEN THOUGH I LEFT, 600 00:43:25,068 --> 00:43:27,793 EVEN THOUGH I WENT TO THE AUTHORITIES, 601 00:43:27,793 --> 00:43:31,724 IT STILL DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS ENOUGH. 602 00:43:31,724 --> 00:43:33,275 I STILL FIND IT HARD TO MOVE ON.