HONESTLY, I WASN'T SURE I COULD TALK ABOUT IT.
[ SNIFFLES ]
I WILL NEVER FORGET.
I SAW ON TV --
IT WAS A HELICOPTER PICTURE.
AND IT WAS ON THE NEWS -- BREAKING NEWS...
Woman: HE LED POLICE TO THE BACKYARD
OF THIS PARK HILL HOME.
...AND I KNEW IT WAS MY BROTHER'S BACKYARD.
AND I SAID, "WHY ARE THEY IN THAT BACKYARD?
WHAT ARE THEY DOING?"
Woman: OFFICERS ARE STILL AT A SCENE.
AND JUST -- I COULDN'T MOVE.
AND AFTER A FEW MINUTES
OF JUST BEING THERE IN SHOCK...
Woman: THE SEARCH FOR VICTIMS IS OUR TOP STORY.
...I WALKED AROUND BEGGING GOD TO JUST WAKE ME UP
'CAUSE I KNEW IT WAS JUST A NIGHTMARE,
THAT NONE OF IT WAS TRUE.
IT WAS JUST NOT TRUE.
AND I DIDN'T GET TO WAKE UP.
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CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS
THIS PICTURE HERE IS MY BROTHER AND ME
AND WHAT IS LEFT OF A SNOWMAN.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I WAS UPSET ABOUT IT,
AND HE WAS NOT.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS HILARIOUS THAT THE SNOWMAN'S HEAD MELTED.
WHEN SOMEONE CALLS MY BROTHER EVIL
OR A MONSTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
I GET MAD.
I GET REALLY, REALLY MAD.
DO I BELIEVE IN EVIL? ABSOLUTELY.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN BELIEVE IN THE GOOD
WITHOUT THE BAD EVER.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING HORRIBLE
DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DON'T LOVE THEM ANYMORE.
AND I LOVE MY BROTHER.
THAT HAS NEVER CHANGED AND WILL NEVER CHANGE.
IT'S STILL A FACT, AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE A FACT.
I LOVE HIM.
I LAUGH AT THIS PICTURE,
BUT THEN AGAIN, LIKE SO MANY OTHER PICTURES,
I GET SAD WHEN LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE...
HIS WHOLE LIFE WAS AHEAD OF HIM.
I JUST WONDER HOW DIFFERENT THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN.
MY BROTHER AND I ARE 18 MONTHS APART.
OUR CHILDHOOD BEFORE HIGH SCHOOL WAS IN SUCH TURMOIL,
SO WE WERE EACH OTHER'S FRIENDS.
WE HAVE OTHER SIBLINGS, BUT MY BROTHER AND I HAVE
ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEEN REALLY, REALLY CLOSE.
SO, THIS GIRL, FOR SOME REASON, DOESN'T LIKE ME.
I'VE NEVER EVEN TALKED TO HER,
AND SHE'S BEING, LIKE, REALLY MEAN AND STUFF.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH TOGETHER
THAT SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE...
HE'S MY OTHER HALF IN A WAY
BECAUSE WE WERE PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS TOGETHER.
WELL, IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH THAT PERSON,
JUST LET ME KNOW.
ALL RIGHT.
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I'D WAKE UP...
AND HE'D BE SITTING IN MY ROOM
JUST STARING AT ME WHILE I WAS SLEEPING.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME, I'M LIKE, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
GO TO BED."
HE SAID, "I'M WATCHING YOU SLEEP."
I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WASN'T NORMAL AT THE TIME
'CAUSE I WAS A KID.
BUT NOW, LOOKING BACK, I'M LIKE, "WOW, THAT'S NOT NORMAL."
SO, I JUST, YOU KNOW, GOT UP AND WENT OUT OF THE ROOM...
'CAUSE I DIDN'T QUITE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.
HE DID NOT LEAVE THAT ROOM. HE STAYED SITTING IN THERE.
I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS HEAD.
I --
IT WAS JUST CREEPY.
MY BROTHER WAS RELIGIOUS IN HIS OWN WAY,
BUT I THINK IT WAS MORE THE NEGATIVE THINGS IN THE BIBLE
THAT HE FOCUSED ON.
Boy: [ Whispering ] REVELATIONS 6:12 --
"AND I LOOKED, AND HE HAD OPENED THE SIXTH SEAL,
AND, BEHOLD, THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE
AND THE SUN BECAME BLACK AS SACKCLOTH,
AND THE MOON BECAME AS BLOOD."
Danyall: AN EYE FOR AN EYE, FOR INSTANCE --
I THINK HE TOOK THAT VERY LITERALLY.
[ LAUGHTER ECHOES]
AND I THINK THAT IT WAS --
[ BREATHES DEEPLY ]
IT WAS KIND OF AN OBSESSION.
I MEAN, NOT "KIND OF."
I THINK IT WAS AN OBSESSION FOR HIM.
HE HAD A RECORD. IT WAS AC/DC.
AND HE LOVED IT.
SOMEBODY TOLD HIM IT WAS SATAN MUSIC.
SO HE SMASHED IT...
BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THAT THE DEVIL HAD COME TO HIM
THROUGH THE MUSIC.
"THE FIFTH ANGEL SOUNDED HIS TRUMPET,
AND I SAW A STAR THAT HAD FALLEN..."
AND THERE WERE TIMES THAT...
HE REALLY SCARED ME.
IT'S JUST ALWAYS HOW HE'S BEEN,
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT.
I'M JUST -- I'M SO USED TO IT.
I HAD A PARAKEET, AND HER NAME WAS GINGER.
AND WE'RE GETTING READY FOR SCHOOL IN THE MORNING.
AND HE SAID, "HEY, 'D,' WATCH THIS."
AND HE SNAPPED THE BIRD'S NECK
AND THREW IT ON THE GROUND FOR THE CAT TO EAT.
[ CRYING ]
Danyall: I WAS CRYING.
AND I ASKED HIM, "WHY DID YOU DO THAT?"
SHE NEVER DID ANYTHING TO YOU!
[ SOBS ]
HE SAID, "SO YOU'D SCREW UP ON YOUR FINALS."
HE COULD BE JUST QUICK TO SNAP AND BE RUTHLESS
AND NOT THINK TWICE ABOUT IT.
I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN HE WASN'T LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A BAD THING.
THAT'S JUST HOW HE WAS. HE WAS DIFFERENT.
BUT WHEN YOU GROW UP WITH DIFFERENT,
YOU ASSUME IT'S NORMAL.
I WAS TERRIFIED.
I WAS ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED.
[ POUNDING ON DOOR ][ SOBBING ]
Richard: OPEN THIS DOOR!
TELL ME WHAT TO DO. HOW DO I GET OUT OF THIS?
[ POUNDING CONTINUES ]
[ Crying ] HE'S GONNA KILL ME. HE'S GONNA KILL ME.
Danyall: I'VE NEVER ASKED MY BROTHER
WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID.
I...
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT MY BROTHER DID
OR WHY HE DID IT,
BUT I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE EVENTS
THAT MADE HIM TURN OUT THE WAY HE IS.
I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM ONE OF MY SIBLINGS
TELLING ME THAT R.P. HAD CONTACTED HER.
IS EVERYTHING OKAY?
AND SHE SAID, "YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN."
AND I --
"JUST TELL ME."
AND SHE SAID, "HE CALLED ME, AND HE'S GOT H.I.V."
OH, MY GOD.
I WAS IN COMPLETE PANIC.
I WAS TERRIFIED.
I MEAN, I JUST THOUGHT, "I'M LOSING MY BROTHER.
HE'S GOING TO DIE."
AT THAT POINT, ALL I'D EVER HEARD WERE
THESE HORRIBLE STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE WITH H.I.V.
AND HOW PAINFUL AND HOW DRAWN OUT THEIR DEATH IS
AND JUST HORRIBLE THINGS.
AND SO I THOUGHT -- I WAS JUST PANICKED.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I THOUGHT, "I DON'T WANT HIM TO SUFFER LIKE THAT."
SO...
HOW'S THE MEDICATION GOING?
WHAT MEDICATION?
AREN'T YOU BEING TREATED FOR H.I.V. STILL?
[ SCOFFS ]
THAT.
[ CHUCKLES ]
I DON'T HAVE H.I.V.
HE JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO FREAK OUT.
YOU DON'T HAVE H.I.V.?
[ LAUGHS ] NO.
HE JUST DID IT BECAUSE I THINK HE THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY HIS MIND WORKED, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW.
HE DID THINGS LIKE THAT ALL OF THE TIME.
TELLING ME ABOUT A FRIEND THAT HAD DIED,
SO I PAID FOR HIM... [ CHUCKLES ]
TO GO ACROSS COLORADO TO THIS GUY'S FUNERAL.
AND THEN, ABOUT -- I GUESS IT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER
THAT I RAN INTO THE GUY.
THAT'S JUST HOW HE WAS.
HE MADE UP STORIES A LOT ABOUT COMMITTING CRIMES,
ABOUT ROBBING THIS STORE, THAT STORE.
IF THOSE STORES WERE TRULY ROBBED,
IT WOULD'VE BEEN ON THE NEWS.
EVERYTHING WAS JUST OUTLANDISH THAT HE SAID.
I MEAN, YOU'D JUST --
YOU COULDN'T EVER KNOW WHAT WAS REAL AND WHAT WASN'T.
MY BROTHER, ESPECIALLY WHEN DRINKING,
WOULD TELL STORIES
OF KILLING PEOPLE.
[ THUNDER RUMBLES ]
READY FOR THIS?
Danyall: IT WAS USUALLY AFTER I GOT HOME FROM WORK,
AND WE'D PLAY CARDS.
AND HE'D BE, YOU KNOW, ALREADY WELL INTO HIS DRUNKENNESS.
AND THAT'S WHEN HE STARTED TELLING ME THINGS...
YOU KNOW, I'VE KILLED SOMEONE BEFORE.
A WOMAN.
...IN VIVID DETAILS,
LIKE THE WEAPON THAT HE USED,
WHETHER IT BE HIS HAND OR A BELT
OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO STRANGLE PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THIN
THAT REALLY CUTS THE AIR OFF QUICKLY.
BUT I DIDN'T BELIEVE HIM, SO IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME.
R.P.
COME ON, NOW.
BUT HE'S ALWAYS LIKED, YOU KNOW, REAL GORY MOVIES
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I'D THINK, "YEAH, YOU SAW THAT ON TV.
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN."
SO, I PINNED HER DOWN
AND I WRAPPED MY BELT AROUND HER.
AND I TIGHTENED IT UP JUST ENOUGH
SO THAT SHE STARTS TO TURN BLUE AND SHE CAN'T BREATHE.
AND I FIGURED HE JUST NEEDED ATTENTION.
SO, "OKAY, GO AHEAD. TELL ME.
REALLY."
SO, I JUST KIND OF LAUGHED IT OFF.
I'M SERIOUS. JUST KNOCK IT OFF, OKAY?
I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY SAD
THAT HE WAS SAYING THINGS LIKE THAT,
BUT I'D HEARD HIM SAY OTHER PEOPLE HAD DIED
THAT HADN'T DIED.
I'D, YOU KNOW, HEARD THAT HE WAS DYING
WHEN HE WASN'T DYING.
SO I JUST KIND OF FIGURED
IT WAS A NATURAL PROGRESSION OF HIS STORIES.
AND IT WASN'T JUST ME THAT HE TOLD.
HE TOLD SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE.
HE TOLD MY NEIGHBORS.
HE TOLD HIS GIRLFRIEND.
HE TOLD ONE OF THE GIRLS
THAT WORKED AT THE BAR THAT I WORKED AT
WHO HE BARELY KNEW.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE HE TOLD.
BUT I KNOW THAT NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE CALLED THE POLICE.
MOST PEOPLE JUST KNEW HE MADE STUFF UP.
THAT'S JUST WHAT HE DID.
NOBODY BELIEVED HIM.
HE TOLD HIS GIRLFRIEND
SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING KILLED PEOPLE
AND HAVING BURIED THEM IN HIS YARD.
SHE CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME ABOUT IT.
I HAVE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
OKAY.
SO, RICHARD...
LIKE, HE HAS THESE STORIES.
THEY'RE REALLY SCARY AND, LIKE, DARK.
Danyall: SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT I THOUGHT --
IF IT WAS TRUE OR NOT.
AND I TOLD HER, "NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT."
THIS IS JUST WHO HE IS.
Danyall: "HE JUST WANTS ATTENTION.
HE'S MAKING IT UP.
WHO IN THE HECK IS GONNA GO AROUND
AND KILL SOMEBODY AND TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT?
THAT'S JUST DUMB.
HE'S MAKING IT UP."
I PROMISE YOU IT'S OKAY.
[ CHUCKLES ]
OKAY.
Danyall: SHE WAS REASSURED ENOUGH TO CONTINUE DATING HIM.
[ BOTH LAUGH ]
WHAT'S WRONG?
Danyall: SHE CAME RUNNING INTO MY HOUSE.
SHE GRABBED ME AND THREW ME IN THE BATHROOM
AND SLAMMED THE DOOR BEHIND ME AND LOCKED US IN THE BATHROOM.
WHAT HAPPENED? TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED.
Richard: HEY![ WHIMPERS ]
Danyall: AND THEN, I COULD HEAR MY BROTHER...
-COME ON! -WHAT IS HAPPENING?
-LET HER OUT! -AAH!
Danyall: ...SCREAMING...
Richard: COME ON! LET'S GO!
"COME OUT HERE. COME OUT HERE."
AND I'M LIKE, "WHAT IS GOING ON?"
R.P., STOP, PLEASE.
OPEN THIS DOOR!
D, OPEN THE DOOR RIGHT NOW!
COME ON! LET'S GO.[ POUNDING ON DOOR ]
WE WERE IN THAT BATHROOM FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
FINALLY, I OPENED THE DOOR,
AND HE'S GOT A GUN POINTED RIGHT AT BOTH OF US.
[ Sobbing ] I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE.
[ POUNDING ON DOOR ]
Richard: COME ON! LET'S GO! LET'S GO!
R.P., STOP, PLEASE.
OPEN THIS DOOR! COME ON!
D, OPEN THE DOOR RIGHT NOW.
Woman: [ SOBBING ]LET HER OUT HERE!
I COULD HEAR MY BROTHER SCREAMING,
"COME OUT HERE. COME OUT HERE."
LET HER OUT!
NO! NOT UNTIL YOU CALM DOWN.
[ POUNDING CONTINUES ]AAH!
[ SOBBING ] COME ON! LET'S GO!
HE'S GONNA KILL ME. HE'S GONNA KILL ME.
IT'S OKAY. SHH.
WE WERE IN THAT BATHROOM FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
[ POUNDING CONTINUES ]
R.P., STOP!
PLEASE! YOU'RE SCARING US.
OH, MY GOD, HE'S COMING.
FINALLY, OPEN THE DOOR,
AND HE'S GOT A GUN POINTED RIGHT AT BOTH OF US.
[ SOBBING ]
I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE.
SHE WANTS TO END IT, SO LET'S END IT.
I WAS TERRIFIED.
I WAS ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED.
YOU DON'T MEAN THAT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE HIM ANGRY.
I DIDN'T WANT TO YELL AT HIM.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
[ SOBBING CONTINUES ]
IT'S ME.
BUT I WANTED THE HECK OUT OF THAT TINY LITTLE BATHROOM
WITH THIS GIRL SOBBING BEHIND ME.
AND IT WAS JUST, "GOD, GIVE ME THE WORDS.
TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
HOW DO I GET OUT OF THIS?"
YOU DON'T MEAN THAT. PUT THE GUN DOWN.
I DON'T MEAN IT?
YOU NEVER BELIEVE ME, D!
WHY DON'T YOU EVER BELIEVE ME, HUH?
FINALLY, HE TURNED THE GUN TOWARD HIMSELF.
HUH?NO! PLEASE, R.P., PLEASE!
HE SAID THAT HE WAS JUST GONNA KILL HIMSELF
AND IT JUST WASN'T WORTH IT.
AND I DID THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK TO DO.
AND I SAID, "IF YOU KILL YOURSELF
AND MY KIDS COME HOME FROM SCHOOL AND SEE YOU DEAD,
THEY'LL NEVER GET IT OUT OF THEIR HEAD."
WHAT ARE THEY GONNA THINK, HUH?
WHAT?
DON'T, PLEASE.
ONCE I BROUGHT UP MY KIDS, HIS DEMEANOR CHANGED.
HE WOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER HARM MY KIDS.
I KNOW THAT.
AND HE JUST DROPPED THE GUN.
[ SOBBING ]
AFTER THAT, THINGS WERE NEVER THE SAME BETWEEN US.
NEVER.
[ TELEPHONE RINGING ]
[ RINGING CONTINUES ]
HELLO?
RICHARD: D-D-Danyall?
R.P., WHAT TIME IS IT?
HE TOLD ME...
THAT HE NEEDED TO COME SEE ME.
I-I-I -- YOU GOT TO HELP ME.
WHAT HAPPENED?
I-I-I did something.
[ Stammering ]
BUT YOU GOT TO BELIEVE ME. IT WASN'T MY FAULT.
I-IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.
R.P., WHAT DID YOU DO?
HE SAID SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAD HAPPENED.
AND HE SAID THAT HE HAD ACCIDENTALLY KILLED SOMEONE.
HE AND THE PERSON THAT HE KILLED WERE SITTING AROUND,
SMOKING POT, AND DRINKING.
AND MY BROTHER HAD GOTTEN A NEW GUN,
AND HE WAS CLEANING IT.
AND HE WAS SHOWING HIS FRIEND HOW TO CLEAN IT,
AND IT WENT OFF AND KILLED HIM.
OH, MY GOD.
DANYALL, YOU HAVE TO HELP ME.
I NEED TO LEAVE.
AT THAT POINT, I BELIEVED HIM.
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?
Come get me.
I-I-I NEED TO GET SUPPLIES.
HE ASKED ME TO BRING HIM SOME THINGS OF HIS
THAT WERE THERE AT THE HOUSE,
LIKE OUTDOOR GEAR,
LIKE HIS HIKING BOOTS AND HIS JACKET AND STUFF.
AND HE SAID...
"YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE ME TO GO GET SOME FOOD.
I NEED JUST SOME RATIONS JUST FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS."
"FINE. FINE.
LET'S JUST GO GET YOUR STUFF."
BECAUSE HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO THE MOUNTAINS.
AND I SAID, "OH, THANK GOODNESS.
NOW HE'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM."
AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS AWFUL,
BUT I JUST SO MENTALLY BROKEN FROM IT
AND JUST EMOTIONALLY DRAINED FROM HIM.
I COULDN'T DEAL WITH IT.
I JUST COULDN'T DO IT.
I-I CAN'T GO TO JAIL.
COME ON, YOU'RE MY SISTER. YOU HAVE TO HELP ME.
I'M GONNA PACK YOUR BAGS.
STAY RIGHT THERE. DO NOT WORRY, OKAY?
I ALWAYS LOOKED OUT FOR MY BROTHER,
AND HE'S ALWAYS LOOKED OUT FOR ME.
[ BREATHING HEAVILY ] I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU, TOO.
Danyall: SO I WENT AND I TOOK HIM
AND I BOUGHT HIM SOME FOOD.
I DROPPED HIM OFF IN THE MOUNTAINS.
AND WE HAD MADE AN AGREEMENT
THAT I WOULD BRING HIM FOOD THE NEXT DAY.
I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING.
[SIGHS] AND YOU'RE COMING BACK TOMORROW?
YEAH.
I'LL BRING MORE FOOD TOMORROW.
OKAY, BUT YOU DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY, DID YOU?
NO, NO ONE KNOWS I'M OUT HERE.
OKAY, GOOD.
ARE YOU GONNA BE OKAY?
YEAH, I'LL BE FINE.
Danyall: AND WHEN I TURNED AROUND
TO LEAVE TO MY CAR...
I HEARD...
I HEARD HIM COCK THAT GUN.
[ GUN COCKS ]
[SIGHS] AND YOU'RE COMING BACK TOMORROW?
YEAH.
I'LL BRING MORE FOOD TOMORROW.
BUT YOU DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY, DID YOU?
NO, NO ONE KNOWS I'M OUT HERE.
OKAY, GOOD.
Danyall: I'VE ASKED HIM SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THIS NOW,
AND HE SWEARS HE MUST HAVE STEPPED ON A TWIG.
[ GUN COCKS ]
[ HEART BEATING ]
BUT I KNOW I HEARD HIM COCK THAT GUN.
[ GUN COCKS ]
[ HEART BEATING ]
I KNOW IT. I KNOW IT. I KNOW IT.
I BELIEVE IT WITH ALL THAT I AM.
AND MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS, "I'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE.
I JUST NEED TO GET AWAY RIGHT NOW.
I NEED TO GET AWAY."
AND I WAS REALLY, REALLY TERRIFIED,
BECAUSE I THOUGHT "HE'S CONFIDED IN ME
ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE ACCIDENTAL SHOOTING.
AND NOW HE'S REGRETTING TELLING ME.
AND SO HE DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY TO TURN ON HIM."
SO, I HAD TO MAKE HIM TRULY BELIEVE
THAT I WAS ABSOLUTELY ON HIS SIDE, 100% --
NO IFs, ANDs, OR BUTs.
AND I JUST HAD TO GET THE HECK OUT OF THERE.
AND I JUST KNEW WHAT I HAD TO DO.
[ POUNDING ON DOOR ]OPEN THIS DOOR!
IF MY KIDS COME HOME AND THEY SEE YOU DEAD,
WHAT ARE THEY GONNA THINK, HUH?
WHAT?
I NEED TO GO GET BACK TO THE KIDS.
THEY'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHERE I AM.
I HAD TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO HIM
THAT I HAD TO GET HOME TO MY KIDS
BUT THAT I WOULD BE BACK.
AND I TOLD HIM, "R.P., I'LL BE BACK WITH FOOD.
I'VE GOT TO GET HOME BEFORE THE KIDS GET OUT OF SCHOOL."
"OKAY, D. LOVE YOU."
AND I LEFT.
[ THUNDER RUMBLES ]
WELL, THE NEWSPAPER REPORTED IT SAYING THAT THEY THOUGHT
THE POLICE BELIEVED IT WAS A SUICIDE.
BUT I STILL BELIEVE IT'S AN ACCIDENTAL SHOOTING...
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MY BROTHER TOLD ME WAS
THAT IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.
I JUST COULD NOT TAKE THE CHANCE OF SOMEONE'S FAMILY THINKING
THAT THEY HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE
AND THAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING,
THEY COULD HAVE HELPED HIM.
THIS FAMILY IS GONNA BE SAYING, "WHY DIDN'T WE TALK TO HIM?
WHY DIDN'T HE TELL US?
WHAT COULD WE HAVE DONE?"
THIS FAMILY IS GOING TO BE SUFFERING.
AND I COULDN'T LET SOMEBODY ELSE GO THROUGH THAT.
I COULDN'T LET SOMEBODY THINK
THAT THEIR CHILD KILLED THEMSELVES.
I JUST COULDN'T DO IT.
I WAS AFRAID I WOULD SECOND-GUESS MYSELF
AND NOT MAKE THE CALL,
SO I HAD TO DO IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE
WHILE I HAD THE COURAGE AND THE STORY.
SO, THAT'S WHAT I DID.
[ DIAL TONE ]
[ TELEPHONE BEEPS ]
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]
[ RECEIVER CLICKS ]MAN: Aurora Police Department.
YES, HELLO?
HI, YES.
I'M ACTUALLY CALLING ABOUT THE SUICIDE IN THE PAPER.
I CALLED THE AURORA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I SAID I HAD SEEN A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE
ABOUT SUCH AND SUCH PERSON.
"THEY SAY THIS PERSON COMMITTED SUICIDE.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS A SUICIDE.
I HAVE INFORMATION SAYING
THAT IT WAS AN ACCIDENTAL SHOOTING."
MY, UH...
MY BROTHER TOLD ME HE DID IT.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T MEAN TO. HE SAID IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS OR IF IT WASN'T,
BUT I NEEDED TO TELL MYSELF THAT IT WAS
SO THAT I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS BETRAYING HIM IN ANY WAY.
HAD HE KILLED SOMEBODY ELSE, OR HAD THEY KILLED HIM,
I WOULD HAVE HAD WAY MORE GUILT THAN I ALREADY DO.
[ SNIFFLES ]
[ ZIP TIE SNAPS ]
Richard: OH, THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW, I'VE KILLED SOMEONE BEFORE.
NOBODY BELIEVED HIM.
IT WAS ALL JUST BALONEY.
HE HAS THESE STORIES.
THEY'RE REALLY SCARY.
WHEN I HEARD THAT HE CONFESSED, HONESTLY I THOUGHT,
"HE'S SENDING THESE PEOPLE ON A WILD GOOSE CHASE."
I REALLY DID.
I THOUGHT IT WAS STILL MORE B.S.
I REALLY THOUGHT, "THESE COPS ARE IDIOTS.
MAN, THEY'RE GONNA GO LOOKING FOR SOMETHING
THAT'S JUST NOT THERE."
Woman: THIS MAN, RICHARD PAUL WHITE, IS
NOW A SUSPECTED SERIAL KILLER.
TONIGHT, POLICE AROUND THE STATE ARE LOOKING FOR VICTIMS
WHITE HAS CONFESSED TO KILLING.
EVERYONE WHO KNEW MY BROTHER SAID THAT HE JUST MADE STUFF UP.
AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT,
"WELL, MAYBE HE'S JUST A COMPULSIVE LIAR."
IF YOU'RE GONNA GO AND KILL SOMEONE,
ARE YOU GOING TO TELL EVERYONE YOU ENCOUNTER?
PROBABLY NOT.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
AND SO I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT FOR A SECOND.
I JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE IT...
UNTIL THAT MOMENT WHEN I SAW IT ON THE NEWS.
AND THEN, I KNEW.
Woman: IN DENVER, OFFICERS ARE STILL AT A SCENE
WHERE THEY FOUND TWO BODIES.
AT ANOTHER LOCATION...[ TELEPHONE RINGING ]
...THE SMALL TOWN OF LA JUNTA, COLORADO,
WHITE SAYS HE DUMPED TWO PEOPLE IN A RIVER.
AND POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING A THIRD SPOT, MESITA, COLORADO.
Danyall: I WAS STANDING THERE,
AND I JUST -- I'VE NEVER HAD IT HAPPEN BEFORE.
I FELL STRAIGHT TO MY KNEES.[ RINGING CONTINUES ]
AND JUST -- I COULDN'T MOVE.
AND AFTER A FEW MINUTES OF JUST BEING THERE IN SHOCK,
I REALIZED THAT THE PHONE WAS RINGING.
AND I JUST WENT TO THE PHONE AND I JUST -- "WHAT?"
IT WAS THE DETECTIVE.
AND HE SAID, "DANYALL, BEFORE YOU FIND OUT ANOTHER WAY,"
AND I SAID, "I ALREADY KNOW."
AND I STARTED YELLING AT HIM.
AND I WAS LIKE, "I JUST SAW IT ON THE NEWS.
YOU FOUND A BODY."
AND THE DETECTIVE SAID,
"NO, ACTUALLY, DANYALL, WE'VE ALREADY FOUND TWO."
AND I JUST HUNG UP ON HIM.
OH, MY GOD.
[ SOBBING ]
I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAD SEEN.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT, AND I --
IT SOUNDS REALLY DUMB, BUT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS,
I WALKED AROUND BEGGING GOD TO JUST WAKE ME UP,
'CAUSE I KNEW IT WAS JUST A NIGHTMARE,
THAT NONE OF IT WAS TRUE.
IT WAS JUST NOT TRUE.
AND I DIDN'T GET TO WAKE UP. [ CHUCKLES ]
SO...
[ SNIFFLES ]
[ SIRENS WAILING ]
[ SHUFFLING ]Woman: NO. NO!
[ GRUNTING ]
THE ONE THING THAT ALL OF THE WOMEN
THAT HE ASSAULTED HAD IN COMMON WAS
THE FACT THAT THEY WERE PROSTITUTES.
THE METHOD IN WHICH HE COMMITTED THE CRIMES
WAS FAIRLY CONSISTENT.
HE WOULD PICK UP THESE PROSTITUTES.
HE WOULD TAKE THEM TO HIS HOUSE.
Woman: [ SOBBING ]
Humphrey: ONCE THEY WERE INSIDE THE HOUSE,
HE WOULD PHYSICALLY TAKE CONTROL OF THEM
EITHER BY KNOCKING THEM UNCONSCIOUS
AND/OR PULLING A PISTOL ON THEM.
HE WOULD REPEATEDLY FORCE THEM
TO PERFORM ORAL, ANAL, AND VAGINAL INTERCOURSE.
HE WOULD PAUSE WHEN HE NEEDED TIME TO REST
AND FORCE THEM TO PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS
FOR BEING PROMISCUOUS WOMEN.
AND THEN, HE WOULD AGAIN RESUME
THE SERIES OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS.Woman: [ SCREAMS ]
AND THIS WOULD GO ON FOR A PERIOD OF TIME,
SOMETIMES IN EXCESS OF 24 HOURS.
IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT HE COMMITTED HOMICIDES
OTHER THAN THOSE THREE WOMEN.
WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A NUMBER OF WOMEN
WHO HAD BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY HIM
BUT HAD EITHER ESCAPED OR HAD BEEN RELEASED.
I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT IF RICHARD WHITE
HAD REMAINED A FREE MAN
HE WOULD CONTINUE TO KILL PEOPLE.
HE IS EVIL.
Danyall: A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW WERE REALLY UPSET AT ME
FOR TELLING THEM WHERE HE WAS.
I HAD SOME FAMILY MEMBERS THAT WERE JUST FURIOUS WITH ME,
WOULDN'T SPEAK TO ME.
SOME OF THEM STILL DON'T.
AND THEN, THE BACKLASH FROM IT WAS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.
AND NOT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE THINK.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE HE WAS ARRESTED.
THAT WAS DIFFICULT.
BUT THE HARD PART WAS BRINGING PAIN
TO THOSE PEOPLE'S FAMILIES' LIVES.
A LOT OF THESE WOMEN THAT WERE KILLED,
THEIR FAMILIES HAD NOT REPORTED THEM MISSING.
NOW THEY KNEW THAT PERSON WAS ABSOLUTELY GONE.
AND THAT WAS REALLY HARD FOR ME,
JUST THINKING ABOUT BRINGING PAIN INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.
THAT WAS ROUGH.
[ SNIFFLES ] IT STILL IS.
IT STILL MAKES ME REALLY SAD FOR THEM.
[ SNIFFLES ]
Woman: RICHARD PAUL WHITE WALKS OUT OF THE COURTROOM
MOMENTS AFTER HE PLEADS GUILTY TO TWO COUNTS OF MURDER
AND THREE COUNTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.
THE RESULT OF THIS PLEA BARGAIN IS THAT RICHARD WHITE WILL SPEND
THE REST OF HIS LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT PAROLE,
AND THERE WILL NOT BE A TRIAL.
Danyall: I WAS A NERVOUS WRECK.
I STARTED DRINKING A LOT JUST TO FORGET AND JUST NOT THINK.
I JUST HAD TO NOT BE IN REALITY FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
[ SNIFFLES ]
A LOT OF TIMES I FELT LIKE I WAS JUST SURVIVING.
I WAS JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS.
I ACTUALLY PICKED UP AND MOVED
ABOUT THREE AND A HALF HOURS AWAY.
I HAD TO START OVER IN A PLACE WHERE NOBODY KNEW.
AS THE YEARS HAVE GONE, SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE EASIER.
THERE'S OTHER TIMES IT'S JUST NOT.
I JUST CAN'T --
I CAN'T FACE IT SOMETIMES.
BUT SOMETIMES, I CAN.
MY BROTHER FLAT-OUT TOLD ME... [ SNIFFLES ]
"THE ONLY REASON I TOLD YOU IS 'CAUSE I KNEW
YOU'D DO THE RIGHT THING AND YOU'D STOP ME."
YOU KNOW, I'VE KILLED SOMEONE BEFORE.
I THINK MY BROTHER WAS BEGGING PEOPLE TO HELP HIM
AND TO STOP HIM.
AND I THINK HE WAS TELLING EVERYBODY
AND ANYBODY SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD MAKE HIM STOP.
AND NOBODY DID.
I WONDER WHY, AND I WONDER WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE.
WHY DIDN'T I SEE THROUGH IT? WHY DIDN'T I KNOW?
THAT'S IT -- WHY DIDN'T I KNOW?
I STILL WONDER IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE
I COULD HAVE DONE IF I WOULD HAVE BELIEVED HIM...
[ SNIFFLES ]
IF MAYBE EVEN JUST ONE LESS PERSON WOULD BE DEAD.
OR MAYBE TWO.
I JUST DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW.
AND I -- THAT'S GUILT I'LL LIVE WITH FOREVER.