1 00:00:03,269 --> 00:00:06,405 When I think of evil, I think of Bob. 2 00:00:07,874 --> 00:00:10,442 A deceitful, 3 00:00:10,543 --> 00:00:13,078 mean monster 4 00:00:13,179 --> 00:00:15,614 that loves to torture people. 5 00:00:30,063 --> 00:00:33,465 And the way I feel right now, I'm telling you this, 6 00:00:33,566 --> 00:00:35,067 I will not forget Bob Walden. 7 00:00:36,736 --> 00:00:37,736 I loathe him. 8 00:00:39,539 --> 00:00:42,908 He is happy doing what he's doing. 9 00:00:43,009 --> 00:00:46,678 It gives him joy, and that's not normal. 10 00:00:56,289 --> 00:00:58,329 There was a bulletin board, and there 11 00:00:58,425 --> 00:01:00,859 was a composite drawing of a man. 12 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,730 The first thought was... That looks like my husband. 13 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:08,834 And I was sleeping with that person 14 00:01:08,935 --> 00:01:10,312 every night in the same bed. 15 00:01:10,336 --> 00:01:14,406 He was disgusting to me when I found out it was him. 16 00:01:15,575 --> 00:01:20,479 But I asked myself, how did I not see it? 17 00:01:28,221 --> 00:01:29,598 I had secrets that I didn't want anyone 18 00:01:29,622 --> 00:01:32,991 to hear, because I was embarrassed and ashamed. 19 00:01:34,194 --> 00:01:40,699 But today, my secrets will be told, 20 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:46,472 because I want to feel like I can live again. 21 00:01:46,539 --> 00:01:51,743 This has been heavy for almost 30 years, 22 00:01:51,845 --> 00:01:56,548 and I feel like he ruined my life. 23 00:01:56,649 --> 00:02:00,719 But I'm here, and I'm living, and I will stand tall. 24 00:02:00,820 --> 00:02:02,654 I'm telling the world, 25 00:02:02,755 --> 00:02:05,124 I did not know 26 00:02:05,225 --> 00:02:06,769 that he was doing those things. 27 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:09,461 I'm not asking for sympathy. 28 00:02:09,562 --> 00:02:12,431 I'm just saying, please, understand me. 29 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:17,836 And I've never shared that with anyone, ever. 30 00:02:17,937 --> 00:02:19,438 But today, I will. 31 00:02:23,643 --> 00:02:26,545 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 32 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:29,148 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 33 00:02:29,249 --> 00:02:33,185 [static crackling] 34 00:02:33,286 --> 00:02:35,721 [knock at door] [creaking] 35 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:41,093 [banging on door] 36 00:02:41,194 --> 00:02:46,331 [creaking] 37 00:02:46,432 --> 00:02:49,268 [water dripping] 38 00:02:49,369 --> 00:02:51,436 [banging on door] [creaking] 39 00:02:51,538 --> 00:02:53,472 [sinister chord strikes] 40 00:03:01,414 --> 00:03:06,118 This is a picture of me at 15 years old 41 00:03:06,219 --> 00:03:07,519 with my son, Andrew, 42 00:03:09,522 --> 00:03:11,256 right before I met Bob. 43 00:03:14,127 --> 00:03:16,305 I got pregnant the first time I ever did anything. 44 00:03:16,329 --> 00:03:19,364 I didn't even know what I was doing, really. 45 00:03:19,465 --> 00:03:22,367 When I looked at him every day, my son, 46 00:03:22,468 --> 00:03:24,937 I loved him so much, that I wanted 47 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:28,006 to give him that American dream, so to speak. 48 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:32,010 I wanted him to have a mom and a dad and a house 49 00:03:32,111 --> 00:03:35,280 and all the things that he was supposed to have. 50 00:03:38,818 --> 00:03:41,320 Bob was 21 when I met him. 51 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:46,892 I lived with my mother, and I had three sisters 52 00:03:46,993 --> 00:03:48,594 and one brother. 53 00:03:48,695 --> 00:03:52,931 I was walking to our mailbox, 54 00:03:53,032 --> 00:03:56,468 and he'd lived with his parents 55 00:03:56,569 --> 00:04:01,573 in just the next building over, and I was 56 00:04:01,674 --> 00:04:05,377 walking by, and I had my little baby with me, and he came 57 00:04:05,478 --> 00:04:07,913 out and started talking to me. 58 00:04:08,014 --> 00:04:11,216 He's adorable. What's his name? 59 00:04:11,317 --> 00:04:12,851 Uh, Andrew. 60 00:04:12,952 --> 00:04:15,954 He was in the Air Force, so 61 00:04:16,055 --> 00:04:18,724 I felt like he has to be a good guy. 62 00:04:18,825 --> 00:04:20,626 Hi, Andrew. 63 00:04:20,727 --> 00:04:23,262 And he was real nice to Andrew, I noticed. 64 00:04:23,363 --> 00:04:25,797 He was handsome, just so outgoing, 65 00:04:25,898 --> 00:04:30,869 friendly, and joking, and it really drew me in. 66 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:33,305 You have a very pretty mommy. 67 00:04:34,407 --> 00:04:36,975 I was honored he was showing me attention and even 68 00:04:37,076 --> 00:04:39,945 considering me... having a child 69 00:04:40,046 --> 00:04:43,315 out of wedlock and wanting to go on a date with me. 70 00:04:43,416 --> 00:04:46,918 Maybe if you could get your mom to babysit one night 71 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:49,988 we could go do something. 72 00:04:50,089 --> 00:04:53,592 Um, yeah. Sure, that'd be great. 73 00:04:53,693 --> 00:04:55,861 CATHY: I was really excited about it 74 00:04:55,962 --> 00:04:58,730 and couldn't wait to see him the next time. 75 00:04:58,831 --> 00:05:01,867 I daydreamed about having him 76 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:05,003 as a father for my son and husband for myself, 77 00:05:05,104 --> 00:05:07,064 and then I fell in love with him. 78 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:14,546 Looking back, I think he was a wolf in sheep's clothing. 79 00:05:15,915 --> 00:05:18,917 I do believe that I was singled out, because I was 80 00:05:19,018 --> 00:05:23,689 a young girl that knew nothing about anything, 81 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:27,225 and I fell for it. 82 00:05:30,496 --> 00:05:34,399 [mellow music playing] 83 00:05:43,876 --> 00:05:46,545 My mom didn't like him from the very beginning. 84 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,883 One day, my mom caught me talking to Bob. 85 00:05:51,984 --> 00:05:54,886 Cathy, what are you doing out here? 86 00:05:54,987 --> 00:05:57,022 And she said, "What are you doing?" 87 00:05:57,123 --> 00:06:00,292 I said, "Well, mom, I want to introduce you to Bob Walden. 88 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,129 "He's... he moved here from Chicago, and his parents 89 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:05,097 live here." 90 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:07,432 She's like, "Yeah, nice to meet you." 91 00:06:08,634 --> 00:06:10,312 And she looked at him, and he just 92 00:06:10,336 --> 00:06:12,571 looked at her, and she said, "Aren't you 93 00:06:12,638 --> 00:06:14,039 in your twenties?" 94 00:06:14,140 --> 00:06:16,908 She's a little young for you, don't you think? 95 00:06:17,009 --> 00:06:18,410 Mom! 96 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:21,580 He said, "I'm 21." 97 00:06:21,681 --> 00:06:25,917 My mom said, "Yes, and my daughter's 16." 98 00:06:26,018 --> 00:06:28,620 She said, "Stay away from her." 99 00:06:28,721 --> 00:06:30,455 It's all right. 100 00:06:30,556 --> 00:06:31,923 I need to get going anyways. 101 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:37,329 Bob just gave my mom this... this glare. 102 00:06:38,598 --> 00:06:39,598 And then he left. 103 00:06:40,767 --> 00:06:44,002 That's when she said, "I... I don't want you talking to 104 00:06:44,103 --> 00:06:45,170 that boy." 105 00:06:45,271 --> 00:06:46,605 Mom, what's wrong with you? 106 00:06:46,706 --> 00:06:48,666 I do not want you talking to him. 107 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:50,675 I said, you know, 108 00:06:50,777 --> 00:06:54,713 "Why? He's a nice person. He's... he's a good man." 109 00:06:54,814 --> 00:06:57,616 And she said, "There's something about his eyes. 110 00:06:57,717 --> 00:06:59,518 It's evil, they're evil." 111 00:06:59,619 --> 00:07:01,739 And... and I was looking at her like, "Mom, 112 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:05,624 "how can you say that about somebody? 113 00:07:05,725 --> 00:07:07,859 You know, you don't know him." 114 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,695 And she said it was a feeling. 115 00:07:10,797 --> 00:07:11,863 You're crazy. 116 00:07:14,033 --> 00:07:16,101 I know what she means now, 117 00:07:16,202 --> 00:07:18,003 because I saw it later on. 118 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:21,406 But then I was just, you know, 119 00:07:21,507 --> 00:07:24,810 swept off my feet, you know, by this guy, 120 00:07:24,911 --> 00:07:26,611 and I wasn't hearing my mom. 121 00:07:29,215 --> 00:07:31,049 My mom was right. 122 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:37,055 She said there was something about his eyes 123 00:07:37,156 --> 00:07:41,827 that she was not comfortable with, and she's right. 124 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:45,363 That blank look... 125 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,599 That's the look that I started to see. 126 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:51,803 Like he didn't care about anything. 127 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:55,307 Like no conscience, capable of anything look. 128 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:59,678 You wonder what he's thinking. 129 00:07:59,779 --> 00:08:01,313 He's just staring. 130 00:08:01,414 --> 00:08:03,534 He just stares at you, and that's the look. 131 00:08:03,583 --> 00:08:07,252 [suspenseful music playing] 132 00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:18,964 We dated secretly for six months. 133 00:08:19,065 --> 00:08:21,299 Bob said, "I'm tired of the sneaking around, 134 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,502 "and you're not standing up to your mom. 135 00:08:23,603 --> 00:08:26,505 "You need to be a woman and stand up to your mom, 136 00:08:26,606 --> 00:08:32,110 and you need to tell her that you're gonna marry me." 137 00:08:32,211 --> 00:08:34,012 And I was like, "What?" 138 00:08:34,113 --> 00:08:36,848 You know? And he's like, "Will you marry me?" 139 00:08:37,917 --> 00:08:42,921 What Bob told me is when we're married, you don't have to 140 00:08:43,022 --> 00:08:44,166 listen to your mom anymore. 141 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:48,426 "You will listen to me, we'll be a family, you know, 142 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:51,096 and we can be together all the time." 143 00:08:51,197 --> 00:08:53,465 And that sounded great. 144 00:08:53,566 --> 00:08:57,569 Looking back, I know what was going on. 145 00:08:57,670 --> 00:09:01,573 He was manipulating me and turning me against my family. 146 00:09:04,143 --> 00:09:07,612 I was married to Robert Walden when I was only 16. 147 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:13,752 My aunt talked my mom into letting 148 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:16,354 me get married. 149 00:09:16,455 --> 00:09:19,157 The wedding day was so exciting. 150 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,093 I felt like a princess. 151 00:09:22,194 --> 00:09:24,514 It was the fairy tale wedding that I always wanted. 152 00:09:28,134 --> 00:09:30,101 This is of me 153 00:09:30,202 --> 00:09:33,738 and Bob kissing at our wedding. 154 00:09:33,839 --> 00:09:36,575 I was so happy. 155 00:09:36,676 --> 00:09:38,843 I thought I was in love, 156 00:09:40,313 --> 00:09:43,515 the way a 16-year-old girl would be in love. 157 00:09:43,616 --> 00:09:46,518 With everything that I know today, 158 00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:49,321 when I see this picture now, 159 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:51,690 I don't like it, because of what 160 00:09:51,791 --> 00:09:54,626 I know about him and what he is. 161 00:09:54,727 --> 00:09:56,628 It makes me angry. 162 00:09:58,331 --> 00:10:03,201 And I hate that I'm kissing him when I see it today. 163 00:10:03,302 --> 00:10:04,803 I hate that. 164 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:18,516 The fairy tale was short-lived, because only two days later, 165 00:10:18,584 --> 00:10:23,421 I saw a whole 'nother side of Bob. 166 00:10:23,522 --> 00:10:24,967 I was getting ready for work, and he's like, 167 00:10:24,991 --> 00:10:26,568 "Why are you putting on makeup?" 168 00:10:26,592 --> 00:10:28,994 He said, "You look awful." 169 00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:30,996 Why are you wearing that? 170 00:10:31,097 --> 00:10:32,564 You look fat in that. 171 00:10:32,665 --> 00:10:34,699 CATHY: He was calling me fat. 172 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,760 He was like a whole other person. 173 00:10:36,836 --> 00:10:38,614 He used to always tell me I was beautiful, 174 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:40,215 his little Latina from Arizona. 175 00:10:40,239 --> 00:10:44,042 So I was like, but I'm not any 176 00:10:44,143 --> 00:10:46,411 different than I was when you met me. 177 00:10:46,512 --> 00:10:47,946 This is how I always look. 178 00:10:48,047 --> 00:10:50,048 Why... why would you say that? 179 00:10:52,551 --> 00:10:54,653 And he says, "I'm not gonna put 180 00:10:54,754 --> 00:10:56,698 up with a wife talking back to me." 181 00:10:56,722 --> 00:10:57,722 And boom! 182 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,430 It came at me so fast that I didn't even know it was coming. 183 00:11:05,531 --> 00:11:07,565 I couldn't believe he hit me. 184 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:10,969 It was like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of stuff. 185 00:11:11,070 --> 00:11:13,772 You never 186 00:11:13,873 --> 00:11:16,174 use that kind of attitude with me. 187 00:11:17,576 --> 00:11:18,977 Got it? 188 00:11:19,078 --> 00:11:22,947 That's when my fairy tale ended, because I thought, 189 00:11:23,049 --> 00:11:25,350 oh my God, who is this man? 190 00:11:25,451 --> 00:11:26,985 Who is this man? 191 00:11:27,086 --> 00:11:30,088 And he told me, 192 00:11:30,189 --> 00:11:32,791 "Get your ass to work." 193 00:11:32,892 --> 00:11:35,093 Hurry up and go. 194 00:11:35,194 --> 00:11:37,495 I'll take the kid. 195 00:11:37,596 --> 00:11:39,207 CATHY: I was so confused. 196 00:11:39,231 --> 00:11:41,633 Is this what marriage is? 197 00:11:41,734 --> 00:11:44,335 I was 16, so... 198 00:11:44,437 --> 00:11:48,440 I didn't know what to expect, 199 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:53,378 but I know that my dad didn't hit my mom. 200 00:11:53,479 --> 00:11:54,579 I thought to myself, 201 00:11:56,148 --> 00:11:58,717 this will never happen again. 202 00:11:58,818 --> 00:12:01,219 It was a misunderstanding, 203 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,021 and that's what I thought. 204 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:09,561 [ominous music playing] 205 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:17,068 Soon after we were married, I noticed a whole 'nother side 206 00:12:17,169 --> 00:12:20,772 of him... he wasn't that happy, smiley, 207 00:12:20,873 --> 00:12:24,342 fun guy that I craved to be around. 208 00:12:24,443 --> 00:12:26,811 Little things would set him off. 209 00:12:26,912 --> 00:12:29,347 - Here you go. - Thank you. 210 00:12:29,448 --> 00:12:32,217 One day, I made Bob soup when he came home, 211 00:12:34,186 --> 00:12:36,387 and I made his soup too hot. 212 00:12:36,489 --> 00:12:39,390 What the hell is wrong with you? 213 00:12:39,492 --> 00:12:41,626 And he threw it up against the wall. 214 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:49,834 He told me to clean it up, and he said, 215 00:12:49,935 --> 00:12:51,836 "And I want that cleaned up 216 00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:53,505 by the time I get back." 217 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:55,106 I'm going out. 218 00:12:55,207 --> 00:12:59,010 He told me I was his property, 219 00:12:59,111 --> 00:13:02,247 and that there was nothing I can do about it. 220 00:13:03,716 --> 00:13:05,116 He was in control of me. 221 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:10,822 He gives me a kiss on the cheek, 222 00:13:10,923 --> 00:13:12,323 and let me tell you, 223 00:13:12,424 --> 00:13:14,826 he was humiliating me, I felt. 224 00:13:14,927 --> 00:13:16,895 That's a good girl. 225 00:13:16,996 --> 00:13:19,631 CATHY: And I just felt like I was nothing to him. 226 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:24,079 I just didn't understand why he married me 227 00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:26,104 if he didn't want to be with me 228 00:13:26,205 --> 00:13:28,150 or he was gonna treat me like that. 229 00:13:28,174 --> 00:13:30,708 I just didn't know what was going on. 230 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,778 He was very sexually active, and I didn't like him to 231 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:09,747 touch me anymore, 232 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:12,250 and it was because 233 00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:14,311 he was getting real rough with me. 234 00:14:16,255 --> 00:14:17,889 He would say dirty things, 235 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:22,527 horrible talk, like I was a prostitute or something, 236 00:14:22,628 --> 00:14:26,197 makin' me feel like I'm... I'm defiled. 237 00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:28,218 I'm... you know, I'm humiliated. 238 00:14:28,267 --> 00:14:30,747 You're a dirty girl, aren't you? 239 00:14:31,437 --> 00:14:33,397 And he would ask me if I liked it. 240 00:14:34,206 --> 00:14:38,042 It totally just made me think, oh my God, 241 00:14:38,143 --> 00:14:40,712 you know, he is disgusting. 242 00:14:40,813 --> 00:14:42,613 Please, not... not tonight. 243 00:14:43,816 --> 00:14:47,785 It was so different from what I experienced in the beginning. 244 00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:51,122 I was forced to do it. 245 00:14:51,223 --> 00:14:53,324 I didn't have a choice. 246 00:14:53,425 --> 00:14:54,826 Come on. 247 00:14:55,995 --> 00:14:57,328 Now. 248 00:14:58,797 --> 00:15:00,642 To be forced to do things you don't 249 00:15:00,666 --> 00:15:03,134 want to do and you know are wrong 250 00:15:03,235 --> 00:15:08,439 or they hurt or things like that, your whole 251 00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:11,843 being as a person just goes away. 252 00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:16,214 I always felt disgusting and never felt like it 253 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,750 was a husband and wife that really loved each other. 254 00:15:22,254 --> 00:15:27,258 I felt like I was being severely abused in every way, 255 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,130 and... and I've never shared that with anyone, 256 00:15:32,231 --> 00:15:33,965 ever, until today. 257 00:15:41,307 --> 00:15:43,908 I wanted to be loved so bad. 258 00:15:44,009 --> 00:15:47,679 I wanted this to work out so much. 259 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:49,591 I wanted my son to have a father, 260 00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:54,886 I didn't want to jump the gun and make a choice or decision 261 00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:57,088 to leave if I could patch it up. 262 00:15:58,424 --> 00:16:00,024 But... 263 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:02,393 I saw things that 264 00:16:03,862 --> 00:16:07,966 were not acceptable. 265 00:16:10,636 --> 00:16:14,272 He would say things like, "I think I'm gonna go ask 266 00:16:14,373 --> 00:16:15,840 "your little sister 267 00:16:15,941 --> 00:16:18,141 "if she wants to take a ride on the motorcycle 268 00:16:18,210 --> 00:16:19,310 with me." 269 00:16:19,411 --> 00:16:21,846 Well if you won't ride with me, maybe she will. 270 00:16:21,947 --> 00:16:24,449 Bob would tell her that she was pretty and stuff, 271 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:30,088 and then he would tell me, "Your sister's... she's 14?" 272 00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:33,091 He'd say, "God she looks so much older," 273 00:16:33,192 --> 00:16:35,426 and that kind of stuff like that, 274 00:16:35,527 --> 00:16:36,894 I'd be really upset. 275 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:39,130 You know she's barely in her teens, right? 276 00:16:39,231 --> 00:16:41,042 CATHY: My heart would just start pounding. 277 00:16:41,066 --> 00:16:42,900 I didn't trust him. 278 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:48,406 I worried about him hurting her or forcing himself on her. 279 00:16:48,507 --> 00:16:50,008 I was terrified for my sister. 280 00:16:50,109 --> 00:16:53,111 So I told my sister, 281 00:16:53,212 --> 00:16:57,782 "Don't ever go anywhere with him... don't." 282 00:16:57,883 --> 00:17:01,986 And my sister agreed. 283 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:16,167 His cousin was in town, 284 00:17:16,268 --> 00:17:18,603 and he wanted to take the kids over there. 285 00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:23,241 Brittany was just a little baby, I was breastfeeding her. 286 00:17:23,342 --> 00:17:24,776 Come on, let's go. 287 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:28,613 And when I said, "I think that she should stay, 288 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:30,634 because I gotta breastfeed her," 289 00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:35,153 he got just so upset with me. 290 00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:36,854 Why don't you want the kids to see her? 291 00:17:36,955 --> 00:17:38,756 That's not what I'm saying. 292 00:17:38,857 --> 00:17:42,260 And he actually punched me. 293 00:17:46,131 --> 00:17:48,933 And I was like, whoa, because this was probably 294 00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:52,537 the hardest beating I ever had from him. 295 00:17:52,638 --> 00:17:55,506 I was on the ground, and he was just wailing on me, 296 00:17:55,607 --> 00:17:58,142 he didn't care that I was holding this newborn baby, 297 00:17:59,711 --> 00:18:02,980 and I was huddled over her, hoping that his 298 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:07,085 big fist didn't hit this little baby and kill her. 299 00:18:07,186 --> 00:18:09,587 [distantly] Bob! Stop! 300 00:18:09,688 --> 00:18:12,190 CATHY: All I could do is just take it. 301 00:18:12,257 --> 00:18:15,293 It crossed my mind that I could die. 302 00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:16,694 Um, he could kill me. 303 00:18:16,795 --> 00:18:19,063 And, um, the only thing that stopped him, 304 00:18:19,164 --> 00:18:22,166 really, was our neighbor knocked on the door. 305 00:18:22,267 --> 00:18:23,434 [doorbell rings] 306 00:18:23,535 --> 00:18:24,969 [knocking noises] 307 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:27,572 And he stopped. 308 00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:29,774 Don't say a word. 309 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:32,043 [knocking noises] 310 00:18:32,144 --> 00:18:35,146 And he was just quiet. 311 00:18:35,247 --> 00:18:37,348 We didn't answer, and she walked away. 312 00:18:39,251 --> 00:18:40,762 I think he would have kept going. 313 00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:42,063 I do. I really do. 314 00:18:42,087 --> 00:18:44,455 I think he would have just kept going, because he was 315 00:18:44,556 --> 00:18:47,058 so angry. 316 00:18:47,159 --> 00:18:49,660 I knew I had to go to the hospital. 317 00:18:49,761 --> 00:18:53,131 Bob, please. I need... I need help. 318 00:18:53,232 --> 00:18:55,143 I felt like my face was falling off. 319 00:18:55,167 --> 00:19:00,571 And sure, enough my jaw was broke, like, in three places. 320 00:19:00,672 --> 00:19:03,474 That's how violent it was. 321 00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:05,877 But he would not call an ambulance. 322 00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,179 He dropped me off at the hospital. 323 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,883 He told me that I better not tell them what 324 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:14,552 happened or they were gonna take the kids away. 325 00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:16,287 You say nothing. 326 00:19:16,388 --> 00:19:18,189 Understood? 327 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:19,434 CATHY: I was to tell them that I 328 00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:21,792 was climbing on the counter, and I fell. 329 00:19:23,562 --> 00:19:24,762 So that's what I told them. 330 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,309 I was young, thinking my kids were gonna get 331 00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:31,836 taken away from me, because that's what he said. 332 00:19:31,937 --> 00:19:34,438 People will say, "Well why didn't you, you know, 333 00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:36,774 leave then?" or whatever. It's not that easy. 334 00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:40,230 I felt like I just didn't know what to do. 335 00:20:02,801 --> 00:20:06,003 This picture is of Bob and me at the pool. 336 00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:10,308 During this time, 337 00:20:10,409 --> 00:20:13,477 I hid behind some of my smiles. 338 00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:17,648 So what you're seeing might look like a happy girl, 339 00:20:17,749 --> 00:20:20,618 but I was not happy at that time. 340 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:25,890 He would look at women all the time. 341 00:20:25,991 --> 00:20:27,358 I no longer felt special. 342 00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:32,897 But that day at the pool takes me back to wonder, 343 00:20:32,998 --> 00:20:36,000 was this a time that 344 00:20:36,101 --> 00:20:38,061 something happened bad to someone? 345 00:20:42,507 --> 00:20:44,875 [mellow piano music playing] 346 00:20:44,977 --> 00:20:49,180 Bob and I would take Andrew to the pool on the weekends, 347 00:20:49,281 --> 00:20:51,782 and this particular day, this woman 348 00:20:51,883 --> 00:20:53,394 that lived in the same complex, 349 00:20:53,418 --> 00:20:57,788 she makes a comment to me about the way I looked, 350 00:20:57,889 --> 00:21:01,225 what I was wearing, and being big and pregnant. 351 00:21:01,326 --> 00:21:03,694 I was very hurt by it. 352 00:21:03,795 --> 00:21:05,796 Do you believe her? 353 00:21:05,897 --> 00:21:09,033 CATHY: Well, she gets up, 354 00:21:09,134 --> 00:21:11,902 and she starts walking out the gate, 355 00:21:12,004 --> 00:21:15,606 and Bob tells me, "I'm gonna go get us some drinks." 356 00:21:15,707 --> 00:21:17,608 We were just there. 357 00:21:17,709 --> 00:21:18,776 I want a drink. 358 00:21:20,646 --> 00:21:23,848 And I thought, "He wants to go flirt or something," 359 00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:26,117 and it was the way he looked at her. 360 00:21:26,218 --> 00:21:29,520 Well, he follows right after her, 361 00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:32,189 and then he doesn't come back right away. 362 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,992 So I was pretty pissed, 363 00:21:35,093 --> 00:21:37,795 thinking that they were having an affair or something. 364 00:21:37,896 --> 00:21:40,164 But when he came back, he was fine. 365 00:21:40,265 --> 00:21:42,867 He was smiley and acted like nothing. 366 00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:46,203 So I calmed down a little bit. 367 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:49,173 But the thought was always there. 368 00:21:52,177 --> 00:21:53,778 The next time I saw her, 369 00:21:53,879 --> 00:21:56,580 she was in the courtroom. 370 00:21:59,084 --> 00:22:02,119 She was one of the victims that survived 371 00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:07,692 her attack, and I recognized her right away. 372 00:22:07,793 --> 00:22:10,061 She said she was at the pool, 373 00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:11,929 and she had left, 374 00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:16,500 and it was shortly after that, someone came up behind her. 375 00:22:18,503 --> 00:22:22,273 He used a cord off of her curling iron to strangle her. 376 00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:27,311 What I realized is that she had nothing to do with Bob. 377 00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:29,914 She didn't even know who he was. 378 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:31,749 When he followed her that day, 379 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:34,385 it was because he was going to hurt her. 380 00:22:37,222 --> 00:22:38,222 I felt guilty. 381 00:22:38,256 --> 00:22:40,491 I felt horrible, because I was thinking that 382 00:22:40,592 --> 00:22:43,527 she was having an affair with my husband, and... 383 00:22:45,097 --> 00:22:46,530 she met him in the worst way. 384 00:22:56,441 --> 00:22:58,075 Soon after we got married, 385 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,678 he got a job with a pest control company. 386 00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:04,582 He would go home to home, doing inspections for termites. 387 00:23:21,032 --> 00:23:23,567 If you're doing a termite inspection, a lot of 388 00:23:23,668 --> 00:23:26,203 the times, the guys had to go under the house, 389 00:23:26,304 --> 00:23:28,606 and on occasions, the guys would 390 00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:30,841 get scraped up and stuff like that. 391 00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:35,079 But it seemed like with Bob, he was always injured on the job. 392 00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:50,161 CATHY: He would come home with scratches, like, down his back, 393 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:55,299 and he had cuts on his hand. 394 00:24:03,341 --> 00:24:05,543 I remember it was a day like any other day, 395 00:24:05,644 --> 00:24:09,647 and when he walked in the door, I saw his shirt torn 396 00:24:10,949 --> 00:24:12,082 up here. 397 00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:14,552 That's a pretty big rip. 398 00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:16,554 Is everything okay? 399 00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:19,323 Yes. Just clumsy is all. 400 00:24:19,424 --> 00:24:22,393 He said he got caught up on a nail underneath the house. 401 00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:34,048 CATHY: But something wasn't right. 402 00:24:34,072 --> 00:24:36,340 His shirt was torn in a way that it looked 403 00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:41,212 like somebody grabbed it from the front and pulled down, so... 404 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,249 I was thinking, well, how did you get that rip if you just 405 00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:46,951 cut yourself up on something? 406 00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:01,365 Then he had scratches 407 00:25:01,466 --> 00:25:02,967 on his neck, 408 00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:07,938 behind his ear, all the... like, big, thick, deep scratches. 409 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:10,140 What's that on your neck? 410 00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:13,344 I scratched myself under the house. 411 00:25:13,445 --> 00:25:14,812 Just drop it. 412 00:25:14,913 --> 00:25:17,581 I was trying to puzzle it together, you know, 413 00:25:17,682 --> 00:25:19,116 and figure it out. 414 00:25:29,427 --> 00:25:31,339 CATHY: I didn't say anything, because I didn't 415 00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:33,831 want a fight or argument, but 416 00:25:33,932 --> 00:25:37,301 after the fact, it was shared with me that those were wounds 417 00:25:37,402 --> 00:25:41,138 that he got from his victims that were fighting for 418 00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:42,907 their lives. 419 00:25:43,008 --> 00:25:47,378 Just hearing that, it just makes you sick. 420 00:25:55,787 --> 00:25:59,256 [ominous music playing] 421 00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:05,095 Bob and I worked at the same pest control company. 422 00:26:05,196 --> 00:26:09,700 Bob wanted me to work there, so I said, "Okay I'll do that." 423 00:26:09,801 --> 00:26:13,804 I worked in the office, so I had access to 424 00:26:13,905 --> 00:26:16,941 the timecard machine, and I didn't think 425 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:19,410 anything of it when he would ask me to clock 426 00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:20,911 him in or out. 427 00:26:21,012 --> 00:26:22,346 Hi, this is Cathy. 428 00:26:22,447 --> 00:26:25,482 CATHY: When he would call and say, "Hey I am stuck 429 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:26,617 "in traffic, 430 00:26:26,718 --> 00:26:30,554 I can be there in 15 minutes, please clock me in." 431 00:26:30,655 --> 00:26:32,656 "Okay." I'd clock him in. 432 00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:39,830 Same thing for lunch or for him coming home, "Clock me out. 433 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:41,909 "I'm gonna get the kids or I'm gonna get this, 434 00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:42,833 and I'll meet you at home." 435 00:26:42,934 --> 00:26:46,503 It's only 10 minutes. "Okay." 436 00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,049 Yeah, okay. I'll be here. 437 00:26:48,073 --> 00:26:51,809 We weren't supposed to be clocking other employees out. 438 00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:53,911 That was a rule I was breaking. 439 00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:55,279 I was not comfortable with it, 440 00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:58,882 but we're husband and wife, so I would clock him in and out 441 00:26:58,984 --> 00:27:01,064 whenever he called and asked me to do it. 442 00:27:01,886 --> 00:27:04,488 But it just seemed like it happened 443 00:27:04,589 --> 00:27:07,091 more and more, and he'd never show up 444 00:27:07,192 --> 00:27:09,152 like he said he was gonna show up. 445 00:27:09,594 --> 00:27:11,305 Everyone would be gone, and I was there 446 00:27:11,329 --> 00:27:13,998 waiting until seven and eight o'clock at night. 447 00:27:14,099 --> 00:27:17,034 I realized later that I was making an alibi for him. 448 00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:20,938 He was actually out doing whatever he was doing, 449 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:25,075 but it showed that he was working, and I'm the one that 450 00:27:25,176 --> 00:27:27,077 was clocking him in and out, 451 00:27:27,178 --> 00:27:29,413 not even really realizing what I was doing. 452 00:27:29,514 --> 00:27:30,948 I was being used. 453 00:27:52,704 --> 00:27:53,781 Being married to Bob, 454 00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:56,807 there were certain things that were off limits, 455 00:27:56,908 --> 00:27:59,810 and one of them was his recliner. 456 00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:05,282 I wasn't to sit in it. I wasn't to mess with it. 457 00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:07,543 I wasn't to clean it, dust it off, nothing. 458 00:28:09,054 --> 00:28:12,956 The kids were not allowed to sit in it. 459 00:28:13,058 --> 00:28:14,992 I knew if he walked in, and they 460 00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:17,428 were in his chair, I was in trouble. 461 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,373 Even when I was home by myself, 462 00:28:19,397 --> 00:28:22,032 I never messed with that chair. 463 00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:26,203 I sometimes wasn't allowed in the living room. 464 00:28:26,304 --> 00:28:27,204 I had to go to the bedroom, 465 00:28:27,305 --> 00:28:31,175 because he needed his time for himself. 466 00:28:31,276 --> 00:28:34,511 I just remember sitting on my bed, 467 00:28:34,612 --> 00:28:36,780 waiting for the okay to come out. 468 00:28:36,881 --> 00:28:39,650 I'd be in there sometimes two or three hours. 469 00:28:39,751 --> 00:28:44,021 I was not allowed to come out until he opened the door. 470 00:28:44,122 --> 00:28:46,757 I didn't hear a peep out there from him. 471 00:28:46,858 --> 00:28:48,759 I heard just the T.V. 472 00:28:50,528 --> 00:28:53,097 I just thought he was being a big baby, 473 00:28:53,198 --> 00:28:55,009 not wanting anyone to sit in his chair, 474 00:28:55,033 --> 00:28:59,036 but it was because he had a lot of stuff under that chair. 475 00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:03,741 When he was arrested, they found things 476 00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:05,909 he had hidden that I didn't even know. 477 00:29:07,979 --> 00:29:09,613 An assortment of knives. 478 00:29:09,714 --> 00:29:11,982 A few pair of women's underwear. 479 00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:17,921 Phone cords, um, like bundled up with zipties 480 00:29:18,022 --> 00:29:20,457 on 'em, things that were really bizarre. 481 00:29:20,558 --> 00:29:23,594 It was all in the pouch of the recliner. 482 00:29:23,695 --> 00:29:25,696 He stored stuff there. 483 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:32,236 [ominous music playing] 484 00:29:36,541 --> 00:29:42,212 When this serial rapist was on the loose, we were terrified. 485 00:29:42,313 --> 00:29:44,348 Our community was terrified. 486 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:49,453 But when the murdering started, that was even more scarier. 487 00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:52,222 [distant siren wailing] 488 00:29:52,323 --> 00:29:54,992 This particular day, we were just getting home, 489 00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:57,138 and I was getting things out of the car. 490 00:29:57,162 --> 00:29:59,229 We had ordered a pizza, and there 491 00:29:59,330 --> 00:30:01,331 was so much going on on our street. 492 00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,402 Lights, ambulance, police officers. 493 00:30:06,504 --> 00:30:09,473 I walked towards the street, because 494 00:30:09,574 --> 00:30:11,708 I want to know what's going on. 495 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:14,812 Bob's walking towards the street, too, and I'm saying, 496 00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:16,914 "What happened, what's going on?" 497 00:30:17,015 --> 00:30:18,482 What do you think that is? 498 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:19,716 Must be something awful. 499 00:30:21,886 --> 00:30:23,987 He said something really bad's happened. 500 00:30:37,969 --> 00:30:41,305 CATHY: He had the pizza box, and he's standing there holding 501 00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:44,608 a piece of pizza, and he's eating it, 502 00:30:44,709 --> 00:30:47,945 looking down at all the lights go on and everything, and he was 503 00:30:48,046 --> 00:30:49,757 just eating his pizza like normal, 504 00:30:49,781 --> 00:30:53,283 like, just like nothing, and... 505 00:30:53,384 --> 00:30:55,752 we heard that there was a attack. 506 00:31:04,829 --> 00:31:06,029 DISPATCHER: Okay. 507 00:31:09,734 --> 00:31:12,202 We had neighbors coming outside, 508 00:31:12,303 --> 00:31:13,637 because they heard it, 509 00:31:13,738 --> 00:31:16,306 and they wanted to know what was going on. 510 00:31:16,407 --> 00:31:19,509 He was eating his pizza, and he just was real calm and... 511 00:31:19,611 --> 00:31:21,522 And he turns around, he's like, "Let's get inside." 512 00:31:21,546 --> 00:31:24,248 Pizza's getting cold. 513 00:31:34,993 --> 00:31:37,294 Two days later, news comes on, 514 00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:40,831 and it's talking about the woman that was attacked 515 00:31:40,932 --> 00:31:43,267 down the street. 516 00:31:43,368 --> 00:31:48,071 It was this same woman that I saw 517 00:31:48,172 --> 00:31:49,884 on the bus just a few days before, 518 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:54,278 she was raped and murdered. 519 00:31:54,379 --> 00:31:55,445 I cried. 520 00:31:56,447 --> 00:31:59,283 Bob thought it was silly for me to be crying like that, 521 00:31:59,384 --> 00:32:01,304 because I didn't even know her. 522 00:32:11,629 --> 00:32:14,398 I went to the laundromat, and I was carrying my laundry 523 00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:16,939 and... and I set it down, and there was a bulletin board. 524 00:32:19,537 --> 00:32:21,697 And there was a composite drawing of a man, 525 00:32:21,739 --> 00:32:22,839 and when I looked up, 526 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:26,510 the first thought was, "That looks like my husband." 527 00:32:27,912 --> 00:32:30,781 Identical eyes, the almond-shaped eyes, 528 00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:34,718 everything... Bob had very distinctive features. 529 00:32:34,819 --> 00:32:36,320 It was Bob. 530 00:32:39,090 --> 00:32:41,925 And I just kept looking at it, and... 531 00:32:43,194 --> 00:32:48,565 I just thought to myself, "I don't know what to do." 532 00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:52,069 That's the composite drawing. 533 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:55,372 It was like, "Have you seen this man? Wanted." 534 00:32:58,142 --> 00:33:01,845 And I saw it, and I... Before I even read it, 535 00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:04,715 I said, "That's my husband." 536 00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:12,622 And the paper had this picture, and they had little 537 00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:14,925 pieces of paper that you can pull down 538 00:33:15,026 --> 00:33:16,893 with a number. 539 00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:19,696 I pulled the very first one off. 540 00:33:19,797 --> 00:33:23,967 I put that little paper in my bra, but I was a nervous wreck. 541 00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:28,905 I realized I was married to a rapist, and he was a murderer. 542 00:33:30,908 --> 00:33:33,243 I was really scared that I remember, 543 00:33:33,344 --> 00:33:36,246 kept pulling my clothes back out. 544 00:33:36,314 --> 00:33:37,748 I rushed home. 545 00:33:43,287 --> 00:33:45,389 When I got there, Bob was there. 546 00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:46,967 I thought you were at the laundromat. 547 00:33:46,991 --> 00:33:48,525 I was. 548 00:33:48,626 --> 00:33:50,394 I said to Bob, "Hey, 549 00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:52,806 "you know that guy that's going around killing people 550 00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:53,730 and raping them?" 551 00:33:53,831 --> 00:33:56,767 You know that guy the police are looking for? 552 00:33:56,868 --> 00:34:00,871 I was gonna tell him that he looked like the composite. 553 00:34:00,972 --> 00:34:04,107 But what happened was, he turned around, and he looked at 554 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:08,045 me with those eyes, and said, "Yeah, what about it?" 555 00:34:10,748 --> 00:34:12,749 And when he did that with his eyes, 556 00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:17,120 he looked at me like... Like he was gonna kill me. 557 00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:19,423 It scared me to death. 558 00:34:19,524 --> 00:34:21,992 I knew to say something different. 559 00:34:22,093 --> 00:34:25,328 I said, "It looks like the guy you work with." 560 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:27,330 I said it real quick. 561 00:34:27,432 --> 00:34:29,192 And he said, "Oh really?" 562 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,269 And then I got in my car, 563 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:34,850 and I drove to work, and that's what I made the phone call. 564 00:35:04,335 --> 00:35:06,703 When I saw that composite drawing, I went to work, 565 00:35:06,804 --> 00:35:09,706 and I called that number. 566 00:35:09,807 --> 00:35:13,643 I would do it halfway, and then I'd hang it up. 567 00:35:13,744 --> 00:35:15,422 And it's not that I didn't want to do it, 568 00:35:15,446 --> 00:35:17,714 I just... I was nervous. 569 00:35:17,815 --> 00:35:20,951 My fear was what if he finds out that I did this? 570 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,823 And then I just... I got the strength and courage, 571 00:35:26,924 --> 00:35:29,025 and I just dialed the whole number, 572 00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:34,030 and when they answered, I... I kind of froze up a little bit. 573 00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:36,700 Yeah... Yes. Hello. 574 00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:38,879 Uh, can I speak with a detective, please? 575 00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:41,104 But I was like, "I'm calling about 576 00:35:41,205 --> 00:35:45,142 a picture, and I think I know who it is." 577 00:35:45,243 --> 00:35:48,278 And he said, "Who?" 578 00:35:48,379 --> 00:35:51,114 And I said, "My husband, Robert Walden." 579 00:35:54,185 --> 00:35:55,886 I gave him my address, 580 00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:59,456 and he said, "Someone will be contacting you, 581 00:35:59,557 --> 00:36:03,160 and they will get more information from you." 582 00:36:04,362 --> 00:36:06,073 Well, that didn't sit very well with me. 583 00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:08,465 You have to arrest him immediately. 584 00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:10,144 Why aren't they coming right now? 585 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:12,088 I wanted them to come right now. 586 00:36:13,804 --> 00:36:16,206 If he found out that I was the one that turned him in, 587 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:21,411 I believe it would have escalated to my own murder. 588 00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:36,826 That night, I would not sleep with Bob. 589 00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:38,929 I was on the couch, and he was 590 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:41,831 really mad that I was sleeping on the couch. 591 00:36:41,899 --> 00:36:44,401 I said it was because I was pregnant. 592 00:36:44,502 --> 00:36:48,171 That night, I would not lay in bed with him, 593 00:36:48,272 --> 00:36:51,341 because of this. 594 00:36:54,178 --> 00:36:59,583 I laid there, I cried, because he was a murderer and a killer. 595 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:04,221 And I had my two kids laying in their beds, 596 00:37:04,322 --> 00:37:08,458 and wondering, are we gonna be victims of something? 597 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,294 If he can kill strangers, he can kill us, too. 598 00:37:13,264 --> 00:37:15,264 I don't remember if I slept or not, 599 00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:18,501 but I just remember crying a lot, 600 00:37:18,603 --> 00:37:21,771 quietly, but I... I felt 601 00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:24,741 like help wasn't far away, because that man 602 00:37:24,842 --> 00:37:28,044 told me that they were gonna be contacting me. 603 00:37:29,213 --> 00:37:31,615 All my faith was in 604 00:37:31,716 --> 00:37:33,116 the police department. 605 00:37:36,454 --> 00:37:39,322 [ominous music playing] 606 00:37:44,195 --> 00:37:48,031 My memory is this... we had just gotten back from a movie. 607 00:37:48,132 --> 00:37:50,066 I didn't want to go, 608 00:37:50,167 --> 00:37:52,869 because I was waiting for them to come. 609 00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:55,071 When we got in the door and everything, 610 00:37:55,172 --> 00:37:58,908 he goes to his recliner, and I have the two little ones, 611 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:02,846 and I'm getting them... Them in their pajamas for bed. 612 00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:06,983 And as I'm doing that, they kicked in our door. 613 00:38:11,989 --> 00:38:15,825 It happened so fast, and I looked over, 614 00:38:15,926 --> 00:38:19,029 and they had Bob 615 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:21,164 down on the floor. 616 00:38:28,606 --> 00:38:32,008 And when they took him outside and read him his rights, 617 00:38:32,109 --> 00:38:34,878 it was such a relief. I felt happiness. 618 00:38:37,515 --> 00:38:42,319 I saw the awful monster in my life was being 619 00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:45,522 removed, and I felt like we were gonna be safe. 620 00:38:58,469 --> 00:39:00,447 When they were putting him in the... 621 00:39:00,471 --> 00:39:02,772 The police car, with his handcuffs on, 622 00:39:02,873 --> 00:39:05,709 he stared at me and said nothing. 623 00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:07,177 It was a glare, 624 00:39:07,278 --> 00:39:09,813 and he did that the whole time. 625 00:39:21,425 --> 00:39:23,526 I've always wondered if 626 00:39:23,627 --> 00:39:28,565 he knew that it was me that made that phone call. 627 00:39:28,666 --> 00:39:31,401 To this day, 628 00:39:31,502 --> 00:39:32,936 I wonder. 629 00:39:45,816 --> 00:39:47,984 CATHY: I felt such a burden lifted. 630 00:39:48,085 --> 00:39:50,887 It was the best feeling I could've had 631 00:39:50,988 --> 00:39:55,125 is him being taken to that police car. 632 00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:57,193 I didn't even say goodbye. 633 00:39:57,294 --> 00:40:01,164 I just... I was so happy to be 634 00:40:01,265 --> 00:40:04,167 alone with my kids, because that was my freedom. 635 00:40:04,268 --> 00:40:06,803 And that was what I've been waiting for, for a long time. 636 00:40:06,904 --> 00:40:09,372 And, uh... 637 00:40:09,473 --> 00:40:12,175 so for me, it was... 638 00:40:12,276 --> 00:40:15,011 probably one of the best days of my life. 639 00:41:18,776 --> 00:41:21,678 CATHY: At the sentencing, I looked over at Bob to see 640 00:41:21,779 --> 00:41:24,981 how he was reacting to his sentence. 641 00:41:25,082 --> 00:41:29,953 And when they said the death penalty, 642 00:41:30,054 --> 00:41:34,958 he was very calm and looking around like he didn't care. 643 00:41:35,059 --> 00:41:38,061 It didn't faze him. 644 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:41,631 I would like to be there when they execute him. 645 00:41:41,732 --> 00:41:44,467 I would like to watch him take his last breath. 646 00:41:44,568 --> 00:41:49,038 I want to see that, and I will have my peace, too. 647 00:41:54,011 --> 00:41:57,013 Bob Walden is a monster that is 648 00:41:57,114 --> 00:41:59,749 hurting people that needs to be punished 649 00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:01,217 for what he has done. 650 00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:05,021 I don't feel sad about it. 651 00:42:05,122 --> 00:42:08,391 I don't feel any kind of remorse with my thought 652 00:42:08,492 --> 00:42:10,493 when it comes to Bob Walden. 653 00:42:10,594 --> 00:42:12,328 I would like to let it go. 654 00:42:12,429 --> 00:42:18,268 I have so many reasons why I want to just let it go. 655 00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:20,970 Just the thought of knowing it was my husband. 656 00:42:21,071 --> 00:42:24,240 I asked myself, "How did I not see it?" 657 00:42:24,341 --> 00:42:26,553 I didn't know what a murderer looked like or acted like, 658 00:42:26,577 --> 00:42:27,677 but it was my husband. 659 00:42:27,778 --> 00:42:29,178 That's what a murderer is.