1 00:00:02,669 --> 00:00:07,406 Someone was gonna die that day... period. 2 00:00:10,910 --> 00:00:12,444 It was the cat mouse game for 3 00:00:12,479 --> 00:00:15,114 so many years, and I didn't know it. 4 00:00:16,383 --> 00:00:18,751 I didn't know I was the mouse. 5 00:00:18,818 --> 00:00:21,086 He was a monster. 6 00:00:21,121 --> 00:00:24,890 And monsters are great at pretending to be 7 00:00:24,924 --> 00:00:26,525 something they aren't. 8 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:29,461 Look at Ted Bundy -- Charismatic, 9 00:00:29,496 --> 00:00:32,664 good-looking, charming, 10 00:00:32,766 --> 00:00:34,967 and he was a monster. 11 00:00:35,001 --> 00:00:37,202 Well, I was married to a monster, too. 12 00:00:44,477 --> 00:00:46,512 He was cruel. He was heinous. 13 00:00:46,546 --> 00:00:47,913 He was atrocious. 14 00:00:47,947 --> 00:00:50,382 He was evil incarnate. 15 00:00:51,918 --> 00:00:55,521 I am filled with absolute hatred. 16 00:00:55,555 --> 00:00:57,790 I can't express... 17 00:00:57,857 --> 00:00:59,725 the hatred I feel. 18 00:01:01,494 --> 00:01:05,664 I am glad that he's suffering where he is right now. 19 00:01:05,698 --> 00:01:07,566 I hope he's rotting in hell. 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,768 I really do. 21 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:14,640 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 22 00:01:14,674 --> 00:01:17,676 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 23 00:01:17,744 --> 00:01:22,781 [static crackling] 24 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:24,550 [knock at door] [creaking] 25 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:29,721 [banging on door] 26 00:01:29,756 --> 00:01:35,027 [creaking] 27 00:01:35,061 --> 00:01:37,596 [water dripping] 28 00:01:37,630 --> 00:01:40,299 [banging on door] [creaking] 29 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:42,468 [sinister chord strikes] 30 00:01:52,245 --> 00:01:55,314 I don't refer to him 31 00:01:55,348 --> 00:01:57,783 by his first name. 32 00:01:57,884 --> 00:02:00,152 I will always 33 00:02:00,186 --> 00:02:02,955 use his last name, Palacio. 34 00:02:04,290 --> 00:02:07,059 I don't want his name passing my lips. 35 00:02:07,093 --> 00:02:08,894 He doesn't deserve it. 36 00:02:08,928 --> 00:02:11,563 He doesn't deserve to be acknowledged. 37 00:02:20,940 --> 00:02:24,943 When I met him, I was just turning 15, 38 00:02:26,079 --> 00:02:28,480 and he was 21 or 22. 39 00:02:28,515 --> 00:02:31,550 He was significantly older than I was. 40 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:37,389 But when I was 15, I looked 23, 25. 41 00:02:37,423 --> 00:02:41,093 I got into nightclubs without being carded. 42 00:02:41,127 --> 00:02:43,595 Just didn't look my age at all. 43 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:46,098 You were a cop? 44 00:02:46,132 --> 00:02:50,002 Yep. I used to work Miami Beach, but I got laid off. 45 00:02:50,036 --> 00:02:53,105 JENNIFER: We were talking, and I asked him 46 00:02:53,139 --> 00:02:55,507 what he did for a living, and he told me 47 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:58,277 he did corporate security for Citibank, 48 00:02:58,311 --> 00:03:03,549 but that he had used to be a cop and pulled his jacket back 49 00:03:03,583 --> 00:03:06,518 and showed me the gun that he still carried. 50 00:03:06,553 --> 00:03:08,587 Do you always carry that around? 51 00:03:08,621 --> 00:03:09,988 Of course. 52 00:03:10,023 --> 00:03:11,757 And he said, "Old habits die hard." 53 00:03:11,791 --> 00:03:13,492 He says, "I'm always armed." 54 00:03:13,526 --> 00:03:14,760 Can't be too careful, right? 55 00:03:15,795 --> 00:03:19,031 I guess I know who to call if I need protecting. 56 00:03:19,065 --> 00:03:22,601 Here's this big, husky guy who carries 57 00:03:22,635 --> 00:03:26,305 around a gun, and it made me feel safe. 58 00:03:26,339 --> 00:03:29,041 I wish I had known that he was going 59 00:03:29,075 --> 00:03:30,943 to be the one I needed to run from. 60 00:03:35,081 --> 00:03:38,183 [eerie music playing] 61 00:03:50,096 --> 00:03:51,964 He and I became friends, and he would 62 00:03:51,998 --> 00:03:54,399 pick me up and take me to work, 63 00:03:54,434 --> 00:03:57,603 and we'd hang out, and we'd do things. 64 00:03:57,637 --> 00:04:02,441 He seemed so sweet, and we were such good friends. 65 00:04:02,475 --> 00:04:05,811 And eventually, he made it known that he wanted more 66 00:04:05,845 --> 00:04:09,915 than that, and I told him that I couldn't. 67 00:04:09,949 --> 00:04:13,051 I made it very clear to him that I only ever wanted to be 68 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:16,588 friends, and he said, "That's okay." 69 00:04:16,623 --> 00:04:19,224 That is the most shocking thing I've ever heard. 70 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:21,226 I got to know him and thought 71 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:23,762 that I knew who he was. 72 00:04:23,796 --> 00:04:26,031 But it turns out that was all a lie. 73 00:04:33,206 --> 00:04:36,575 First time I ever saw him angry 74 00:04:36,609 --> 00:04:38,744 was on my birthday. 75 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:44,549 I was 18, and my friend Carl 76 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:46,652 came to tell me happy birthday. 77 00:04:46,719 --> 00:04:48,420 - Hey, Carl! - Hey, how's it going, 78 00:04:48,454 --> 00:04:49,554 birthday girl? - Good! 79 00:04:49,589 --> 00:04:51,623 - Oh, thanks for stopping by. - Of course! 80 00:04:51,658 --> 00:04:53,592 JENNIFER: And I was standing outside with him, 81 00:04:53,626 --> 00:04:55,560 and I saw Palacio. 82 00:04:55,595 --> 00:04:56,895 - Thank you so much! - You're welcome. 83 00:04:56,929 --> 00:04:58,196 I really, really appreciate it. 84 00:04:58,231 --> 00:05:00,265 - Thank you. - Of course, of course. 85 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,501 JENNIFER: He saw Carl, and he 86 00:05:02,535 --> 00:05:06,605 got red-faced and clearly was livid. 87 00:05:08,241 --> 00:05:11,977 He had a look of rage. 88 00:05:13,513 --> 00:05:15,747 His hands were clenched. 89 00:05:15,815 --> 00:05:21,753 He glared at me like he was ready to kill somebody. 90 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:24,423 I had never seen him angry before. 91 00:05:24,457 --> 00:05:27,659 Never. He said, "You [bleep] whore." 92 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:31,229 And he turned around and left. 93 00:05:34,367 --> 00:05:36,735 It was very scary to see him looking like that. 94 00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:41,940 Sorry about that. [clears throat] 95 00:05:41,974 --> 00:05:47,079 I didn't understand why he was so angry. 96 00:05:47,113 --> 00:05:51,483 Carl told me, "You don't want to be around this guy." 97 00:05:51,517 --> 00:05:55,721 He says, "This guy is not what you think he is." 98 00:05:55,788 --> 00:05:58,490 You're just saying that 'cause you don't like him. 99 00:05:58,524 --> 00:06:00,959 JENNIFER: And I looked at him, and I said, 100 00:06:00,993 --> 00:06:02,561 "I don't know why you're saying that, 101 00:06:02,595 --> 00:06:05,497 but he's never been anything but nice to me," 102 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:09,034 and he said, 103 00:06:09,068 --> 00:06:11,236 "Just remember I warned you. He's crazy. 104 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:12,804 He's not all there." 105 00:06:12,905 --> 00:06:14,506 I'm saying you should really be careful, okay? 106 00:06:19,011 --> 00:06:22,614 I came to find out sometime later 107 00:06:22,648 --> 00:06:26,318 that the reason he was so angry 108 00:06:26,352 --> 00:06:30,522 was because he had bought me a ring, 109 00:06:30,556 --> 00:06:33,392 and was going to ask me to marry him. 110 00:06:35,161 --> 00:06:37,596 I didn't know why. 111 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:41,900 I've said so many times that I'm not interested 112 00:06:41,934 --> 00:06:44,936 in having that kind of relationship. 113 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:48,407 And that definitely should have been a warning sign. 114 00:06:50,443 --> 00:06:55,947 I think that I was just too young and naive to really see. 115 00:06:58,618 --> 00:07:01,853 And I should have listened to the warnings 116 00:07:01,888 --> 00:07:03,455 that people gave me. 117 00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:20,238 I started getting sick, having really bad headaches, 118 00:07:20,273 --> 00:07:22,541 pain behind my eyes, 119 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:26,978 started breaking out in these lesions 120 00:07:27,013 --> 00:07:29,314 all over my body, 121 00:07:29,348 --> 00:07:32,818 and nobody knew what was wrong with me. 122 00:07:32,852 --> 00:07:35,220 I was terrified I was going to die. 123 00:07:35,254 --> 00:07:40,525 And the one person that was there was Palacio. 124 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,161 So one night, we went to dinner, 125 00:07:43,196 --> 00:07:46,064 and he said, "What's wrong? 126 00:07:46,098 --> 00:07:47,833 What's wrong with you?" 127 00:07:47,867 --> 00:07:50,702 So what's going on? What did the doctor say? 128 00:07:50,770 --> 00:07:54,206 JENNIFER: And I said, "Nobody knows what's wrong with me." 129 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,241 I said, you know, "I've seen every 130 00:07:56,275 --> 00:08:00,145 "doctor I can afford to see. I'm done. 131 00:08:00,179 --> 00:08:01,613 They don't know what it is." 132 00:08:01,647 --> 00:08:07,619 He wants to run more tests, but I can't afford it. 133 00:08:07,653 --> 00:08:11,156 JENNIFER: He said, "Let me take care of you." 134 00:08:11,190 --> 00:08:12,757 And I didn't understand what he meant 135 00:08:12,792 --> 00:08:15,393 by let me take care of you. What does that mean? 136 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:18,296 - I have an idea. - What's that? 137 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:21,099 JENNIFER: And he says, "Well, we'll get married. 138 00:08:21,133 --> 00:08:25,070 "I'll put you on my insurance, and you'll be able to 139 00:08:25,104 --> 00:08:28,106 "go to doctors and specialists and figure out 140 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:30,041 what's wrong with you." 141 00:08:30,076 --> 00:08:31,576 I can't -- I can't do that. 142 00:08:31,611 --> 00:08:32,677 Why not? 143 00:08:32,778 --> 00:08:36,147 That seems so cold, to marry somebody for insurance, 144 00:08:36,182 --> 00:08:39,117 but here I am, 145 00:08:39,151 --> 00:08:43,488 sick and, for all intents and purposes, dying, 146 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,323 as far as I knew. 147 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:46,958 How else are you supposed to get better? 148 00:08:50,997 --> 00:08:54,099 The household I grew up in was very violent. 149 00:08:54,133 --> 00:08:58,570 I was 14 the first time I ran away, 150 00:08:58,604 --> 00:09:01,306 so I didn't have parents. 151 00:09:01,340 --> 00:09:03,341 I didn't have security. 152 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:06,778 I didn't have someone who cared about me. 153 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:12,183 This was the first time that I felt protected. 154 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:14,753 Please, let me do this for you. 155 00:09:14,787 --> 00:09:17,789 JENNIFER: I told him if we got married, 156 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:19,424 it would have to be name only. 157 00:09:19,458 --> 00:09:21,760 As long as we agree, 158 00:09:21,861 --> 00:09:25,096 it's just as friends. 159 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:29,401 And he said, "Okay." He was okay with that. 160 00:09:29,435 --> 00:09:35,307 It would be a friendship, and nothing would change between us. 161 00:09:35,341 --> 00:09:36,541 Of course. 162 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:39,044 JENNIFER: But I'd be able to see doctors. 163 00:09:39,078 --> 00:09:41,279 So finally, I agreed. 164 00:09:41,314 --> 00:09:42,814 Thank you. 165 00:09:42,915 --> 00:09:44,983 I agreed to marry him. 166 00:09:45,017 --> 00:09:49,521 I felt tremendous gratitude 167 00:09:49,555 --> 00:09:51,556 that somebody cared enough 168 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:58,029 to make such a life-altering decision 169 00:09:58,064 --> 00:09:59,965 to help me. 170 00:10:01,667 --> 00:10:05,670 But I was manipulated into being married. 171 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,875 When I look back at it, 172 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:14,079 I think to myself, those were signs. 173 00:10:14,113 --> 00:10:16,715 Those were big signs, and you ignored them. 174 00:10:16,782 --> 00:10:21,186 They were flashing red lights that you ignored. 175 00:10:30,896 --> 00:10:33,365 I agreed to marry him, 176 00:10:34,767 --> 00:10:37,369 and we started living together. 177 00:10:39,138 --> 00:10:42,040 He went from being this amazing friend 178 00:10:42,074 --> 00:10:47,012 to a monster almost overnight. 179 00:10:51,250 --> 00:10:53,418 The first thing he did when we moved in was 180 00:10:53,452 --> 00:10:58,790 he put two deadbolts that could only be opened with keys, 181 00:10:58,858 --> 00:11:01,326 and I was not given keys. 182 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,128 Don't forget to leave me a set. 183 00:11:03,162 --> 00:11:05,230 JENNIFER: He had the only keys. 184 00:11:05,264 --> 00:11:08,199 - I didn't make you a set. - But then I can't get out. 185 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:11,636 I know. 186 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:14,906 JENNIFER: I asked him, "Why are you locking me in?" 187 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:17,475 And he said, "Because I need to be 188 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:20,078 able to trust you before you can go out." 189 00:11:20,112 --> 00:11:22,714 That was like whiplash. 190 00:11:22,782 --> 00:11:25,016 What are you talking about? 191 00:11:25,051 --> 00:11:26,418 You need to give me a key. 192 00:11:26,452 --> 00:11:27,585 Are you insane? 193 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:28,720 You can't just lock me in here. 194 00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:31,389 Who do you think you're talking to, huh?! 195 00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:35,260 And he threw me up against the wall, and he grabbed 196 00:11:35,294 --> 00:11:38,096 me by the throat, and he said, "You don't question me. 197 00:11:38,130 --> 00:11:40,799 You don't question my decisions." 198 00:11:40,866 --> 00:11:43,535 He looked crazy. 199 00:11:43,569 --> 00:11:47,272 I was just horrified. Who is this person? 200 00:11:48,474 --> 00:11:50,875 And I kept saying, "What is wrong with you? 201 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:51,943 What's wrong with you?" 202 00:11:51,977 --> 00:11:53,745 And he says, "There's nothing wrong with me. 203 00:11:53,813 --> 00:11:56,247 "You need to learn what the rules 204 00:11:56,282 --> 00:11:58,583 "are and how to live by the rules. 205 00:12:02,288 --> 00:12:05,290 "And you don't ever question me. 206 00:12:05,324 --> 00:12:08,426 You never question me again." 207 00:12:08,461 --> 00:12:10,028 [sobbing] 208 00:12:10,062 --> 00:12:12,163 After he was done, was getting ready to leave, 209 00:12:12,198 --> 00:12:14,966 he would always pull the phone off the wall, 210 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,169 unplug it, wrap the little cord around. 211 00:12:18,204 --> 00:12:21,372 You can have this back when I can trust you. 212 00:12:21,406 --> 00:12:25,376 And off he went to work, and click, click went the locks. 213 00:12:25,444 --> 00:12:29,147 No phone, no way to get help. 214 00:12:29,181 --> 00:12:32,484 Nothing. I was a prisoner. 215 00:12:33,652 --> 00:12:36,721 I was an absolute prisoner. 216 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:40,191 And I just kept thinking back to that day on my birthday, 217 00:12:40,226 --> 00:12:41,659 and I kept thinking, 218 00:12:41,694 --> 00:12:43,561 oh, my God, 219 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,797 I was warned, 220 00:12:45,931 --> 00:12:48,099 and I didn't listen. 221 00:12:56,008 --> 00:12:57,742 When we agreed that I would move in 222 00:12:57,810 --> 00:13:02,046 and get married, and he would give me insurance, 223 00:13:02,081 --> 00:13:05,717 there was never any talk 224 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:11,022 about him expecting sex from me. 225 00:13:13,125 --> 00:13:15,727 He told me he was my friend, 226 00:13:15,761 --> 00:13:18,596 and he just wanted to take care of me. 227 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:22,066 And it's not true. 228 00:13:22,101 --> 00:13:23,568 It was not true. 229 00:13:28,774 --> 00:13:33,211 The very first time that we were in the apartment together, 230 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:34,612 he raped me. 231 00:13:37,783 --> 00:13:39,984 After the first time he raped me, 232 00:13:40,019 --> 00:13:44,389 I was sobbing and hysterical and crying, 233 00:13:44,423 --> 00:13:48,726 and I kept telling him, we -- we talked about this. 234 00:13:48,761 --> 00:13:51,563 Why are you doing this to me? 235 00:13:51,597 --> 00:13:55,700 Who the hell are you? 236 00:13:55,768 --> 00:13:58,436 And he said, "I am the person I've always been." 237 00:14:00,806 --> 00:14:02,574 And I just -- 238 00:14:02,608 --> 00:14:04,409 I couldn't believe it. 239 00:14:07,112 --> 00:14:12,217 Who the hell am I sitting next to you right now? 240 00:14:12,251 --> 00:14:13,651 That's all I could think of. 241 00:14:16,622 --> 00:14:21,326 He made it clear that this was what was gonna happen, 242 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,027 that I was gonna cook, I was gonna clean, 243 00:14:23,062 --> 00:14:25,129 I was gonna do his laundry, and I was gonna have sex 244 00:14:25,164 --> 00:14:27,565 with him, and that was my role. 245 00:14:29,768 --> 00:14:35,440 I became a possession, and he used me however he wanted to. 246 00:14:35,474 --> 00:14:37,976 I dreaded it every single time, 247 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:41,946 but at some point, you just quit fighting. 248 00:14:43,315 --> 00:14:48,152 He told me, "Shut the hell up, get in bed, and go to sleep. 249 00:14:48,187 --> 00:14:51,122 "You've got to make me breakfast in the morning. 250 00:14:51,156 --> 00:14:53,524 Go to bed now and shut up." 251 00:14:54,526 --> 00:14:58,129 I kept thinking to myself, he's always watching. 252 00:14:58,163 --> 00:15:01,499 And if you get away from him, what are you gonna do? 253 00:15:01,533 --> 00:15:03,468 Where are you gonna go? 254 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:07,038 You're so sick, you can barely lift your head up 255 00:15:07,072 --> 00:15:09,941 off the pillow some days -- What are you gonna do? 256 00:15:21,553 --> 00:15:24,656 My health was deteriorating every day. 257 00:15:24,690 --> 00:15:28,092 I was sicker every single day. 258 00:15:28,127 --> 00:15:29,227 [coughing] 259 00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:31,195 When I would ask him, 260 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,398 "Can we please make an appointment for me to go to 261 00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:34,532 the doctor?" 262 00:15:34,566 --> 00:15:37,936 He would just look at me, 263 00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:42,307 slap me, and say, "We'll do it when I'm ready to do it." 264 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:47,512 He loved having that power. 265 00:15:47,546 --> 00:15:50,481 He loved control. 266 00:15:50,516 --> 00:15:52,450 He thrived on it. 267 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,087 He needed it. 268 00:15:57,256 --> 00:15:59,557 It wasn't until I was 269 00:15:59,591 --> 00:16:02,527 basically blind 270 00:16:02,561 --> 00:16:05,496 that he let me go to a doctor. 271 00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:10,234 I was useless to him if I was blind. 272 00:16:12,371 --> 00:16:15,139 How could I iron shirts if I'm blind? 273 00:16:15,174 --> 00:16:17,442 How could I keep the house clean if I'm blind? 274 00:16:21,113 --> 00:16:24,515 He said to me, "You make one wrong move, 275 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:26,017 "you say one wrong thing, 276 00:16:26,051 --> 00:16:29,954 I'm gonna kill your cat, and it'll be your fault." 277 00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:38,062 He went into the doctor's office, into the exam room. 278 00:16:38,097 --> 00:16:41,466 He knew his mere presence 279 00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:45,737 would make sure 280 00:16:47,406 --> 00:16:49,207 that I didn't say anything. 281 00:16:49,241 --> 00:16:50,441 DOCTOR: All right, well, let's see if we can 282 00:16:50,476 --> 00:16:52,910 figure out what's going on with you today, all right? 283 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:55,413 JENNIFER: I was diagnosed with systemic lupus 284 00:16:55,447 --> 00:16:59,484 and fibromyalgia on top of many other issues. 285 00:16:59,518 --> 00:17:00,852 DOCTOR: Is there anything going on at home 286 00:17:00,886 --> 00:17:03,187 that might be causing any stress lately? 287 00:17:04,323 --> 00:17:08,593 I didn't for more than five minutes at a time 288 00:17:08,627 --> 00:17:12,263 ever think about leaving. 289 00:17:12,297 --> 00:17:13,498 What am I gonna do? 290 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:16,401 I'm gonna go back to not having insurance? 291 00:17:16,435 --> 00:17:18,069 How am I gonna be treated for 292 00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:20,671 my medical conditions if I don't have insurance? 293 00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:24,509 No. 294 00:17:24,543 --> 00:17:26,978 There's no point of running, 295 00:17:27,012 --> 00:17:29,247 because there's nowhere to go. 296 00:17:29,281 --> 00:17:32,016 I was trapped by my illnesses. 297 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:35,553 I was trapped by my own psyche. 298 00:17:35,587 --> 00:17:37,488 My own brain 299 00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:42,260 told me I was not capable of surviving without him. 300 00:17:42,294 --> 00:17:44,295 Hopefully, in the next few days, we can get an answer 301 00:17:44,329 --> 00:17:46,964 back to you, all right? - Okay. 302 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:02,947 JENNIFER: He always carried a gun. 303 00:18:06,185 --> 00:18:09,921 And it made him feel like a big man. 304 00:18:09,955 --> 00:18:13,791 And so he would always bring the gun out when he was mad 305 00:18:13,859 --> 00:18:16,160 at me, and he would start cleaning it, 306 00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:19,330 take it apart, and clean it and just stare at me. 307 00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:25,736 He was threatening me with it, without having to say it. 308 00:18:26,972 --> 00:18:29,674 And then he'd put it back together, and he'd say -- 309 00:18:29,708 --> 00:18:32,743 Put it right up to my face and say, "Look, doesn't it 310 00:18:32,811 --> 00:18:34,745 look nice?" 311 00:18:38,484 --> 00:18:39,951 And he'd smirk. 312 00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:42,386 It terrified me. 313 00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:46,057 One time, he came into the bedroom 314 00:18:47,392 --> 00:18:52,029 and raped me with the handle of a knife 315 00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:56,801 and told me, "It'll be the sharp end of the knife next time." 316 00:19:00,539 --> 00:19:05,109 And this is what people don't understand 317 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,544 when they say... 318 00:19:08,046 --> 00:19:10,915 "You can go to the police now, 319 00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:13,251 you can do this, you can do that." 320 00:19:17,189 --> 00:19:19,624 You don't leave someone like that. 321 00:19:22,594 --> 00:19:24,328 That's a psychopath. 322 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:28,799 And I was in his grips. 323 00:19:28,934 --> 00:19:32,236 You can't leave somebody that crazy, 324 00:19:34,072 --> 00:19:35,339 because they'll find you. 325 00:19:42,414 --> 00:19:44,615 JENNIFER: I didn't want to be a captive anymore. 326 00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:47,652 I didn't want to live, but I didn't want to die. 327 00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:51,189 I was in limbo, and the medication is working, 328 00:19:51,223 --> 00:19:52,623 and slowly, 329 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:56,327 I'm getting a little bit better, a little at a time. 330 00:19:56,361 --> 00:20:01,265 Once I started feeling better, I started feeling that urge 331 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:04,135 to call somebody to beg for help, 332 00:20:04,169 --> 00:20:06,804 to find a safe house, to do something. 333 00:20:06,905 --> 00:20:09,240 I knew I had to get out. 334 00:20:09,274 --> 00:20:11,342 I couldn't stay there anymore. 335 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:13,544 I had to get out somehow. 336 00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:16,447 And as I'm thinking all this and thinking about, well, 337 00:20:16,481 --> 00:20:20,785 you can go live in a homeless shelter until you find a job, 338 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:22,620 I found out I was pregnant. 339 00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:32,964 Hm. My babies. 340 00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:36,200 [laughs quietly] 341 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:37,235 Emily and Ryan. 342 00:20:37,269 --> 00:20:39,570 That was the picture that I took 343 00:20:39,605 --> 00:20:42,540 the day that Ryan came home from the hospital. 344 00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:46,444 They gave me purpose. 345 00:20:46,478 --> 00:20:51,048 They gave my life meaning -- I had something to wake up for. 346 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:05,930 I was very fierce about protecting my children, 347 00:21:05,964 --> 00:21:08,199 and I didn't care what happened to me. 348 00:21:09,468 --> 00:21:11,402 My children gave me courage. 349 00:21:12,537 --> 00:21:13,938 When my son was young, 350 00:21:13,972 --> 00:21:16,741 he had severely crossed eyes. 351 00:21:16,808 --> 00:21:18,943 The treatment for the crossed eyes 352 00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:23,047 is to patch each eye individually. 353 00:21:24,983 --> 00:21:28,386 Palacio told me that was wrong, and that I was gonna do it 354 00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:30,421 his way, and I said, 355 00:21:30,455 --> 00:21:32,189 "No, I'm gonna do it the way that the doctors 356 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:34,025 told me to do it." 357 00:21:34,059 --> 00:21:36,127 I'm just telling you what he said. 358 00:21:36,161 --> 00:21:41,065 And he was fuming that I corrected him. 359 00:21:41,099 --> 00:21:44,268 If you want to check, give him a call. 360 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,170 And he grabbed me by the hair, 361 00:21:46,204 --> 00:21:48,439 and he pushed me against the wall. 362 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:52,310 Maybe you forgot how things work around here. 363 00:21:52,344 --> 00:21:55,713 And he said, "Don't you ever, ever tell me 364 00:21:55,781 --> 00:21:57,615 I'm not doing the right thing for my children." 365 00:21:57,649 --> 00:22:01,018 And he took a big heavy-duty hole puncher, 366 00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:04,555 and he hit me right up here. 367 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:07,625 And out I went. 368 00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:13,130 I was unconscious for a period of time. 369 00:22:13,165 --> 00:22:15,466 I don't know how long. 370 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:16,967 When I woke up, I was on 371 00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:20,304 the ground, and I was bruised and bloodied. 372 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:25,376 He was never gonna change or come to some epiphany 373 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:28,346 and realize he's been a complete bastard. 374 00:22:29,781 --> 00:22:32,350 And... 375 00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:34,352 say, "I'm so sorry I made your life hell 376 00:22:34,386 --> 00:22:36,687 "for so many years. 377 00:22:36,722 --> 00:22:38,956 Can you ever forgive me?" 378 00:22:38,990 --> 00:22:40,524 That was never gonna happen. 379 00:22:51,269 --> 00:22:54,472 We were at his cousin's house, 380 00:22:54,506 --> 00:22:58,275 standing around right by this hot tub, 381 00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:01,479 and my daughter kind of toddled over, 382 00:23:04,116 --> 00:23:06,851 and she fell into the hot tub. 383 00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:08,018 Emma! 384 00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:10,488 JENNIFER: And I was on the other side of the pool, 385 00:23:10,522 --> 00:23:13,624 and he's just standing there staring down. 386 00:23:13,658 --> 00:23:17,294 She's sinking. She's reaching up like this. 387 00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:19,663 Cris -- do something! 388 00:23:21,199 --> 00:23:25,603 I ran over and jumped in 389 00:23:25,637 --> 00:23:27,772 and grabbed her out 390 00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:30,474 and started patting her back to get the water 391 00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:33,110 out of her lungs. 392 00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:38,115 And I said, "What the hell is wrong with you?" 393 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:40,985 I said, "How could you just stand there? 394 00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:43,254 "You were gonna let her drown because 395 00:23:43,288 --> 00:23:46,090 you don't want your clothes to get wet?" 396 00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:49,460 Are you insane? 397 00:23:49,494 --> 00:23:51,495 And that was the first time that 398 00:23:51,530 --> 00:23:54,965 I had ever really stood up to him 399 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,467 and said something. 400 00:23:56,501 --> 00:23:59,303 He said, "We're leaving." I said, "Good." 401 00:23:59,337 --> 00:24:00,604 Let's go. 402 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,742 He beat the hell out of me that night. 403 00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:07,244 But my daughter was alive, so it was worth it. 404 00:24:14,953 --> 00:24:19,290 That night was the night I realized he was 405 00:24:19,324 --> 00:24:21,926 going to kill one or all of us, 406 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,761 and we needed to get out. 407 00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:27,665 We had to go, and we needed to get somewhere safe. 408 00:24:40,345 --> 00:24:43,247 I started calling lawyers 409 00:24:43,281 --> 00:24:46,016 and would tell them the entire story. 410 00:24:48,787 --> 00:24:50,521 And all of them said 411 00:24:51,923 --> 00:24:53,557 the same thing. 412 00:24:53,592 --> 00:24:55,960 "Don't worry. You'll get alimony. 413 00:24:55,994 --> 00:24:57,161 "You'll get child support. 414 00:24:57,195 --> 00:24:59,230 You'll be able to support yourself." 415 00:24:59,264 --> 00:25:02,032 It was all about my kids at that point. 416 00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:04,502 What happened to me didn't matter anymore. 417 00:25:05,904 --> 00:25:08,205 Those were my babies. 418 00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:13,244 They saved me, and it was my turn to save them. 419 00:25:23,321 --> 00:25:26,056 I slept with my children. 420 00:25:26,091 --> 00:25:29,560 So I started pushing the dresser in front of the door 421 00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:32,029 every night so that he couldn't get in 422 00:25:32,063 --> 00:25:35,299 and to keep me and the kids safe so that we could sleep. 423 00:25:39,971 --> 00:25:43,574 But one night, I was tired. 424 00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:46,143 The kids were asleep. 425 00:25:46,177 --> 00:25:48,946 I didn't want to make any noise, 426 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:53,417 and I didn't put the dresser in front of the door that night. 427 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,220 And that's the night he picked. 428 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:01,425 I woke up, and Emma was gone. 429 00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:04,028 I was terrified. 430 00:26:04,062 --> 00:26:06,497 She would never get up and leave me on her own. 431 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:09,700 Emma? 432 00:26:09,768 --> 00:26:10,968 JENNIFER: I panicked. 433 00:26:11,002 --> 00:26:14,505 I jumped up, I started screaming her name. 434 00:26:14,539 --> 00:26:16,106 Emma! 435 00:26:16,141 --> 00:26:20,177 And I ran through the house looking for her, and I run 436 00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:24,014 into the living room, and there she is on his lap, 437 00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:25,616 with a gun to her head. 438 00:26:30,956 --> 00:26:33,390 He said, "I know that you've been talking to a lawyer. 439 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,926 "I know you're thinking about leaving, 440 00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:37,227 "and you're never gonna leave. 441 00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:40,431 "You're never gonna get away, because I'll make you 442 00:26:40,465 --> 00:26:43,200 watch the children die before I kill you." 443 00:26:43,234 --> 00:26:45,569 First them, 444 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:47,705 then you. 445 00:26:47,772 --> 00:26:49,239 My daughter has a gun to her head, 446 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:50,341 and he's gonna kill her. 447 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:54,044 And I'm begging and pleading and praying, 448 00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:56,780 "Dear God, help me," and begging him that I will 449 00:26:56,881 --> 00:26:59,984 do anything he wants me to do if he would just put her down 450 00:26:59,986 --> 00:27:01,785 and let her go. 451 00:27:01,853 --> 00:27:04,521 He picked her up, 452 00:27:04,556 --> 00:27:08,926 and he threw her across the room, 453 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,262 and he walked up to me, and he kicked me twice in the gut. 454 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:16,066 And he said, "You're never going anywhere. 455 00:27:16,101 --> 00:27:17,501 You just remember that." 456 00:27:17,535 --> 00:27:21,171 And he just smiled that maniacal smile, 457 00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:24,141 and he left. 458 00:27:26,578 --> 00:27:28,245 I'm thinking how the hell did 459 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,548 he know I've been talking to a lawyer? 460 00:27:31,583 --> 00:27:34,118 How does he know I'm leaving? 461 00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:36,954 What else does he know? 462 00:27:36,988 --> 00:27:40,758 Somehow, he's getting information, 463 00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:44,028 and I hadn't told anyone about my plans. 464 00:27:44,062 --> 00:27:46,864 No one -- no one knew. 465 00:27:46,898 --> 00:27:50,734 So it had to be something in the house. 466 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:02,346 I was certain he planted something in the house. 467 00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:04,014 I knew there had to be cameras 468 00:28:04,049 --> 00:28:07,951 or listening devices in the house somewhere. 469 00:28:07,986 --> 00:28:12,990 So I started searching those rooms, and then 470 00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:16,026 I started looking through light switches 471 00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:19,196 and electrical outlets. 472 00:28:19,230 --> 00:28:21,799 It was a methodical search, 473 00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:26,303 light by light, switch by switch, 474 00:28:26,337 --> 00:28:31,041 and just looked around with a little flashlight until I saw 475 00:28:31,076 --> 00:28:33,310 something that didn't look like anything I had seen in 476 00:28:33,344 --> 00:28:34,945 the others. 477 00:28:34,979 --> 00:28:37,047 I pulled it out, 478 00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:40,117 and sure enough, in the electrical outlet, 479 00:28:40,151 --> 00:28:43,153 there was this thing that had a wire. 480 00:28:56,034 --> 00:28:58,035 And I went all around the house, 481 00:28:58,069 --> 00:29:00,270 and I found about four more of them. 482 00:29:00,305 --> 00:29:02,573 I found these teeny, tiny, 483 00:29:02,607 --> 00:29:07,010 itty bitty little cameras in the light fixtures. 484 00:29:07,045 --> 00:29:09,747 He was watching with everything I did. 485 00:29:09,814 --> 00:29:13,283 He listened to every word that was said in that house. 486 00:29:20,458 --> 00:29:22,459 I just sat, and I looked at them, 487 00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:25,262 and I started crying, 488 00:29:27,065 --> 00:29:30,167 because I thought, "My God, any time he wanted to, 489 00:29:30,201 --> 00:29:32,169 "he could listen, 490 00:29:32,203 --> 00:29:33,670 and he could see." 491 00:29:47,585 --> 00:29:49,553 I became so determined, 492 00:29:49,587 --> 00:29:53,123 I wasn't gonna let my kids live like this, 493 00:29:53,158 --> 00:29:56,260 but I knew better than to talk in the house. 494 00:29:56,294 --> 00:29:59,062 I knew better than to make any kind of plans in the house. 495 00:29:59,097 --> 00:30:03,267 I didn't even write things down in the house. 496 00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:08,505 I started playing my kids' computer game, and I met 497 00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:11,341 other parents online that were also playing. 498 00:30:13,678 --> 00:30:15,979 I wasn't allowed to have friends, 499 00:30:16,014 --> 00:30:19,750 so being able to socialize felt great. 500 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:25,455 It was wonderful -- that game was an outlet for me. 501 00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:27,224 One of the people I met was 502 00:30:27,258 --> 00:30:31,028 a single dad named Paul, and he lived in England, 503 00:30:31,062 --> 00:30:33,430 and we developed a friendship. 504 00:30:33,464 --> 00:30:37,367 Paul told me I had to get out, he told me to leave. 505 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:44,308 And I made my decision to leave Palacio. 506 00:30:50,248 --> 00:30:54,451 And I dropped the kids off at school one morning and went, 507 00:30:54,485 --> 00:30:57,187 and I signed a lease on a furnished apartment, 508 00:30:57,222 --> 00:31:01,558 grabbed all our clothes, grabbed my cat, 509 00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:04,361 put it all in my minivan, 510 00:31:04,395 --> 00:31:06,163 stopped at my lawyer's office, 511 00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:09,433 signed divorce papers, and I prayed. 512 00:31:11,202 --> 00:31:12,402 I prayed. 513 00:31:16,407 --> 00:31:18,342 I had panic buttons everywhere, 514 00:31:19,577 --> 00:31:23,046 on my neck, around the children's necks. 515 00:31:23,081 --> 00:31:24,481 I had a panic button 516 00:31:24,515 --> 00:31:27,184 in each and every room of that town house. 517 00:31:27,218 --> 00:31:29,553 All I had to do was push it, and the police would come. 518 00:31:30,955 --> 00:31:32,522 I knew he'd find me. 519 00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:34,191 I knew it would be a matter of less than 520 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:36,593 24 hours until he found out where I was living, 521 00:31:36,628 --> 00:31:39,029 but I prayed for that security to work. 522 00:31:39,063 --> 00:31:44,201 I was awake and listening 523 00:31:44,235 --> 00:31:47,337 for every little sound, checked 524 00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:50,641 the alarm system a million times that it was on, 525 00:31:50,675 --> 00:31:53,176 checked the motion detectors. 526 00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:55,979 Checked everything. 527 00:31:58,182 --> 00:32:01,952 And I just waited and waited and waited. 528 00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:04,087 And he never came. 529 00:32:04,122 --> 00:32:05,322 He never came. 530 00:32:17,001 --> 00:32:19,202 Paul called me 531 00:32:19,237 --> 00:32:22,739 and said, "Could I come and see you?" 532 00:32:22,807 --> 00:32:26,710 I was not looking for a relationship, but one day, 533 00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:30,280 he kissed me, and I kissed him back. 534 00:32:30,315 --> 00:32:33,417 He knew that we were in danger, 535 00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:39,656 and so he said, "I want to stay and help try to protect you." 536 00:32:44,329 --> 00:32:46,797 I tried to warn him, and he said, 537 00:32:46,864 --> 00:32:48,298 "Oh, I know what I'm getting involved in. 538 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:51,401 "I know he's psychopathic, I know that he's insane. 539 00:32:51,436 --> 00:32:53,603 I'm gonna stay and protect you." 540 00:32:53,637 --> 00:32:57,207 The day the divorce was final, Paul and I went to 541 00:32:57,241 --> 00:33:01,311 the clerk's office to get a certified copy of the divorce. 542 00:33:02,213 --> 00:33:05,716 And I was happy and smiling, 543 00:33:05,783 --> 00:33:08,952 and I was giving Paul kisses on 544 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:11,521 the cheek and just saying, "I'm so happy." 545 00:33:11,556 --> 00:33:13,156 I can't believe it's finally over. 546 00:33:13,191 --> 00:33:15,425 - I know. It's so exciting. - It is. 547 00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:19,596 And I turned around, and there was Palacio. 548 00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:25,268 And I said, "Oh, my God, Jesus, Paul, he's there." 549 00:33:25,303 --> 00:33:26,737 What is it? What's wrong? 550 00:33:26,804 --> 00:33:29,906 It's him, he's here. 551 00:33:29,941 --> 00:33:32,642 So we were standing in line, and for 552 00:33:32,677 --> 00:33:36,446 whatever reason, he decided to stand directly behind us. 553 00:33:36,481 --> 00:33:38,482 Everything's gonna be fine. 554 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:41,952 He's not gonna do anything with a roomful of people 555 00:33:41,986 --> 00:33:45,622 standing around. - JENNIFER: And he had this face. 556 00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:49,192 I can't really explain it. 557 00:33:49,227 --> 00:33:51,294 The eyes are dead or the eyes 558 00:33:51,329 --> 00:33:54,965 are evil or the eyes are plotting. 559 00:33:57,835 --> 00:34:00,504 He could have shot me right then and there. 560 00:34:00,538 --> 00:34:03,540 He could have stabbed me, he could have done anything. 561 00:34:04,976 --> 00:34:08,045 I just whispered, "Oh, my God," and I grabbed Paul's hand, 562 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,448 and I just squeezed it as hard as I could and he squeezed back. 563 00:34:14,318 --> 00:34:17,587 That was his way of saying, "It's okay, I'm here." 564 00:34:17,622 --> 00:34:20,991 - Can we please leave? - Yeah, come on. Let's go. 565 00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:25,462 JENNIFER: So I got my papers, I left, 566 00:34:25,496 --> 00:34:27,330 made sure he wasn't in the same elevator 567 00:34:27,365 --> 00:34:31,034 going down, and we went to another courthouse, 568 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:35,272 a different courthouse, to get our marriage license. 569 00:34:35,306 --> 00:34:38,175 Made plans to get married three days later, 570 00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:41,578 and we went to go pick rings. 571 00:34:45,316 --> 00:34:48,485 I told Paul so many times 572 00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:53,356 that he needed to go home and go be with his son, 573 00:34:53,391 --> 00:34:55,092 and that I loved him, 574 00:34:55,126 --> 00:34:58,195 and that I would go and visit him as often as I could. 575 00:34:58,229 --> 00:34:59,963 He refused to go. 576 00:34:59,965 --> 00:35:02,399 He wanted to stay with me. 577 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:06,103 And I kept telling him, "One day, he's gonna kill us," 578 00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:08,672 and he said, "He's not man enough. 579 00:35:08,706 --> 00:35:11,007 He's not man enough to do that." 580 00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:13,343 And he refused to go. 581 00:35:15,213 --> 00:35:17,047 I wish you had listened to me. 582 00:35:17,081 --> 00:35:19,149 I wish you had gone back to England. 583 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,185 And I'm sorry. 584 00:35:28,359 --> 00:35:32,429 When the divorce was final, the judge gave him 50% custody. 585 00:35:32,463 --> 00:35:34,498 So he got them every other week. 586 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,103 I had to take my children, sobbing, 587 00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:42,239 to this monster's house. 588 00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:45,342 Every time I dropped them off, 589 00:35:45,376 --> 00:35:48,278 I didn't know if I was ever gonna see them again. 590 00:35:48,312 --> 00:35:51,381 It was terrifying. 591 00:35:58,489 --> 00:36:00,157 It's my birthday. 592 00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:02,526 Paul and I and the kids went out to eat. 593 00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:07,264 I had to take the children back to Palacio. 594 00:36:08,466 --> 00:36:09,733 Cris? 595 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,969 We got there, knocked on the door, and he didn't answer, 596 00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:17,340 and I rang the bell and waited, and no one answered. 597 00:36:17,375 --> 00:36:18,708 I guess he's not here. 598 00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:23,146 Got back in the car, and we were getting ready 599 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:26,550 to leave, and Paul honked the horn one last time, 600 00:36:26,584 --> 00:36:30,053 and out comes Palacio screaming, in a rage. 601 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:34,424 What the hell are you doing here? 602 00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:36,560 It's fine. I'll handle it. Wait here. 603 00:36:36,594 --> 00:36:37,928 Please don't. Paul... 604 00:36:37,962 --> 00:36:39,229 And Paul said, "This is enough. 605 00:36:39,263 --> 00:36:41,298 "We're not leaving the kids here with him 606 00:36:41,332 --> 00:36:44,367 "if he's gonna act like this -- if he's that unstable, 607 00:36:44,402 --> 00:36:46,636 then he can't have the kids." 608 00:36:46,671 --> 00:36:48,638 Get off my property. 609 00:36:48,672 --> 00:36:49,739 Cris, come on, man. 610 00:36:49,807 --> 00:36:53,543 So Paul started to tell him exactly that. 611 00:36:53,578 --> 00:36:57,147 I am sick and tired of you causing problems. 612 00:36:57,181 --> 00:36:59,916 And Palacio goes like this, 613 00:36:59,951 --> 00:37:03,920 behind him, and I knew. 614 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:07,157 I'd seen that motion before a million times when he 615 00:37:07,191 --> 00:37:10,560 would go to take the gun out and point it at me. 616 00:37:10,595 --> 00:37:12,229 Paul, watch out! 617 00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:17,567 And I said, "Oh, my God, Paul, he's got a gun." 618 00:37:18,769 --> 00:37:20,303 By the time the words were out, 619 00:37:20,338 --> 00:37:21,705 he was already on the ground, 620 00:37:21,772 --> 00:37:22,973 [gunshot blasts] 621 00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:24,174 And it was too late. 622 00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:27,010 He had already fired the shot straight to the heart. 623 00:37:30,548 --> 00:37:33,283 He just started grinning ear to ear, 624 00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:36,353 just smiling, like he had won the lottery, 625 00:37:36,387 --> 00:37:40,123 he was smiling, and he... 626 00:37:40,157 --> 00:37:44,594 went up to Paul, and he shot him twice more in the back, 627 00:37:44,629 --> 00:37:49,332 and he just kept shooting him with a smile on his face when 628 00:37:49,367 --> 00:37:52,102 he emptied the clip into him, 629 00:37:52,136 --> 00:37:57,974 and I'm screaming, and people are coming out of their houses, 630 00:37:58,009 --> 00:38:01,444 and he had gone back into the house to reload. 631 00:38:01,479 --> 00:38:04,414 [distant sirens wailing] 632 00:38:04,448 --> 00:38:06,516 At that point, you could hear the police sirens 633 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:09,919 already from the people calling the police. 634 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,522 They were right around the corner. 635 00:38:12,556 --> 00:38:16,059 They were there in less than two minutes, so he never 636 00:38:16,093 --> 00:38:20,563 had a chance to shoot me or the kids, because the police came. 637 00:38:20,598 --> 00:38:22,499 They cuffed him. 638 00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:24,768 They put him in the squad car. 639 00:38:24,802 --> 00:38:27,604 He told the police, he said, "Look what that [bleep] bitch 640 00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:31,241 made me do -- do you see what that [bleep] bitch made me do?" 641 00:38:31,275 --> 00:38:34,177 That's what he kept saying to the cops. 642 00:38:34,211 --> 00:38:38,348 "Look what that [bleep] bitch made me do." 643 00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:57,267 He tried to claim self-defense 644 00:38:57,301 --> 00:38:59,536 when they were interrogating him. 645 00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:01,504 He said, "Well, I think he had a gun, 646 00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:03,340 and he is bigger than me." 647 00:39:03,374 --> 00:39:04,941 He was running at me, 648 00:39:04,975 --> 00:39:06,943 and he looked like he was coming with a gun. 649 00:39:08,546 --> 00:39:11,715 - I shot him. - I wanted to testify. 650 00:39:11,782 --> 00:39:13,983 I wanted... 651 00:39:14,018 --> 00:39:17,153 I wanted the world to know what he was. 652 00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:19,789 I wanted them to know what he did 653 00:39:19,957 --> 00:39:21,991 and why he did it. 654 00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:23,760 I screamed, 655 00:39:23,894 --> 00:39:26,196 I said, "Oh, my God, Paul, he's got a gun." 656 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:29,199 When I walked in, he was sitting there with his lawyers. 657 00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:33,103 But other than that one brief moment when I was being 658 00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:36,639 sworn in, I could not see him. 659 00:39:36,674 --> 00:39:39,309 WOMAN: Winter described the slow, merciless method 660 00:39:39,343 --> 00:39:41,244 in which Palacio shot at Paul. 661 00:39:41,278 --> 00:39:43,446 She said he did so while smiling. 662 00:39:43,481 --> 00:39:47,417 He walked up to my husband after he was laying face down, 663 00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:50,320 and he shot him more in the back. 664 00:39:52,456 --> 00:39:56,559 He fought every little thing, to the point that my lawyer 665 00:39:56,594 --> 00:39:57,961 told me, "Jen, you need to get 666 00:39:57,995 --> 00:40:01,131 "out of Florida now, you need to go. 667 00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:05,034 What if they come back not guilty? You need to go." 668 00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:22,585 I have nothing to say to him. 669 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:25,255 He knows what he did, he knows what he is, 670 00:40:25,289 --> 00:40:28,091 and he's in a very harsh prison. 671 00:40:28,125 --> 00:40:31,561 One of the worst in Florida, from what I understand. 672 00:40:40,504 --> 00:40:45,742 I learned to make a life for myself, and I wouldn't 673 00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:49,446 have had my children if it hadn't been for all of this. 674 00:40:50,881 --> 00:40:53,616 And having my children made it all worth it. 675 00:40:53,651 --> 00:40:56,786 Every ounce of pain, every punch, 676 00:40:56,854 --> 00:41:01,224 every slap, I'd go through it again to have my children. 677 00:41:01,258 --> 00:41:04,961 I know that's probably the most ridiculous 678 00:41:04,995 --> 00:41:07,630 thing most people have ever heard of, 679 00:41:07,665 --> 00:41:10,366 but my kids are my world. 680 00:41:10,401 --> 00:41:14,904 They're absolutely everything to me. 681 00:41:14,939 --> 00:41:17,507 Paul was an innocent 682 00:41:17,541 --> 00:41:20,944 man -- he loved me. 683 00:41:23,447 --> 00:41:25,748 It's all there is. He loved me. 684 00:41:28,886 --> 00:41:31,321 He gave his life for us. 685 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,592 I live with tremendous guilt about that. 686 00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:38,495 And for a long time, I was angry at him. 687 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:42,332 After he died, I was angry, 688 00:41:42,366 --> 00:41:46,936 and I used to scream, "I told you just to leave." 689 00:41:46,971 --> 00:41:49,772 I'd be dead, but he would have been alive. 690 00:41:52,576 --> 00:41:56,446 It's not right, because he didn't marry that monster. 691 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,750 I did. We're so lucky that we're alive. 692 00:42:00,818 --> 00:42:02,552 I'm sorry for Paul, 693 00:42:02,586 --> 00:42:04,254 and I'm sorry for his family. 694 00:42:04,288 --> 00:42:06,623 I'm so sorry for his son. 695 00:42:06,657 --> 00:42:09,526 My heart breaks for his son. 696 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,963 It really does. 697 00:42:13,998 --> 00:42:18,301 But I feel tremendously lucky. 698 00:42:18,335 --> 00:42:20,670 I got away. 699 00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:25,108 Paul gave his life, but I got away.