1 00:00:04,104 --> 00:00:05,204 It's not fair. 2 00:00:05,271 --> 00:00:07,139 I shouldn't have to live this way. 3 00:00:07,207 --> 00:00:09,975 I shouldn't have to go through all of this. 4 00:00:11,211 --> 00:00:15,147 I'm disgusted by my own father. 5 00:00:15,215 --> 00:00:16,315 As my father, 6 00:00:16,383 --> 00:00:19,618 he was an amazing person, amazing father, 7 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:23,389 but then him as a man, he was evil. 8 00:00:23,456 --> 00:00:29,194 He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. 9 00:00:29,262 --> 00:00:32,164 My father's name is Robert Eugene Brashers, 10 00:00:33,233 --> 00:00:38,404 and he got away with his crimes for 20 years almost 11 00:00:38,471 --> 00:00:40,839 before anyone ever knew who he was, 12 00:00:40,940 --> 00:00:42,341 and the whole time he was dead. 13 00:00:54,988 --> 00:00:57,723 My whole life, I thought I'd done something wrong. 14 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:02,995 And I didn't. It was him. 15 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:04,897 It was him. 16 00:01:06,032 --> 00:01:09,535 I just... [sniffles] 17 00:01:10,937 --> 00:01:15,374 I still feel guilty, and I still feel... 18 00:01:15,442 --> 00:01:16,775 ashamed... 19 00:01:18,211 --> 00:01:21,146 of not saying stuff. 20 00:01:22,615 --> 00:01:25,984 I wish I was older at that time 21 00:01:26,052 --> 00:01:28,754 so that I would have been able to understand 22 00:01:28,822 --> 00:01:30,756 everything that was going on. 23 00:01:31,825 --> 00:01:34,059 People would have gotten justice. 24 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:36,462 They got the answers they needed, 25 00:01:36,529 --> 00:01:39,164 but they don't get justice, 26 00:01:39,199 --> 00:01:40,532 and that's wrong. 27 00:01:43,169 --> 00:01:45,637 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 28 00:01:45,705 --> 00:01:48,674 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 29 00:01:48,741 --> 00:01:53,779 [static crackling] 30 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:55,547 [knock at door] [creaking] 31 00:01:55,615 --> 00:02:00,786 [banging on door] 32 00:02:00,854 --> 00:02:06,058 [creaking] 33 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:08,694 [water dripping] 34 00:02:08,761 --> 00:02:11,363 [banging on door] [creaking] 35 00:02:11,431 --> 00:02:12,831 [sinister chord strikes] 36 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:21,974 When I was five years old, me, 37 00:02:22,041 --> 00:02:24,209 my mother, and my two older sisters lived in 38 00:02:24,277 --> 00:02:26,078 Huntsville, Alabama, 39 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:30,616 and I thought at the time my older sister's dad was 40 00:02:30,683 --> 00:02:35,254 my dad until the day Robert Eugene Brashers 41 00:02:35,321 --> 00:02:36,388 pulled in my driveway. 42 00:02:36,456 --> 00:02:42,094 ♪ 43 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:44,329 We're sitting outside on the front porch, 44 00:02:44,397 --> 00:02:45,731 and this tall, dark, 45 00:02:45,798 --> 00:02:48,967 handsome man gets out, and he says, 46 00:02:49,035 --> 00:02:51,503 "Hey, Debra Kay, I'm your father." 47 00:02:51,571 --> 00:02:55,440 Debra Kay! You've gotten so big. 48 00:02:55,508 --> 00:02:57,409 I asked my mother, and my mother said, "Yes, 49 00:02:57,477 --> 00:03:00,012 that is your real father." 50 00:03:00,079 --> 00:03:03,415 He came over and hugged me, and we talked a little bit. 51 00:03:03,483 --> 00:03:06,451 My mother was explaining everything to me 52 00:03:06,519 --> 00:03:08,921 and was saying that he was away working, 53 00:03:08,988 --> 00:03:12,157 and that's why he wasn't around, and that they 54 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:13,859 were getting back together. 55 00:03:13,927 --> 00:03:17,529 He's been gone a long time, but he's here for good now. 56 00:03:17,597 --> 00:03:19,031 I missed you so much. 57 00:03:19,098 --> 00:03:23,168 I never wondered where he was the whole time, 58 00:03:23,236 --> 00:03:28,907 but he had been in prison over gun charges. 59 00:03:28,975 --> 00:03:34,246 My father was very charming, very good-looking. 60 00:03:34,314 --> 00:03:36,982 When my father come into my life, 61 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:38,550 we went on family trips, 62 00:03:38,618 --> 00:03:41,720 we had everything we ever needed 63 00:03:41,788 --> 00:03:43,755 and wanted, and I had 64 00:03:43,823 --> 00:03:45,657 never had that before. 65 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:48,594 I went from being a mama's girl to -- 66 00:03:48,628 --> 00:03:52,030 Straight to a daddy's girl within a couple of 67 00:03:52,098 --> 00:03:55,567 months of meeting him, because of the way he was. 68 00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:58,537 He was just so loving and so caring. 69 00:03:58,605 --> 00:04:00,205 Are you really here to stay? 70 00:04:00,273 --> 00:04:02,608 - That's right. - You want to come see my room? 71 00:04:02,675 --> 00:04:04,443 You bet I do. Let's go! 72 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:09,248 When my mom and dad got back together, 73 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:13,819 they decided to move us to Arkansas. 74 00:04:13,853 --> 00:04:17,723 Life was amazing in Arkansas -- For the first year, 75 00:04:17,757 --> 00:04:22,327 everything seemed perfect. 76 00:04:22,395 --> 00:04:25,330 It was the American dream, 77 00:04:25,398 --> 00:04:27,299 and then it went to... 78 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:32,337 the American horror story. 79 00:04:36,209 --> 00:04:41,980 ♪ 80 00:04:42,048 --> 00:04:45,417 This is a photo of me and my mother and my father, 81 00:04:45,485 --> 00:04:47,886 my two sisters, and my aunt 82 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:51,590 the night we left to move to Arkansas with my father. 83 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:57,429 This is a picture that I will never hang up in my house 84 00:04:57,497 --> 00:04:59,798 that I don't want my children to see. 85 00:05:01,934 --> 00:05:03,669 If someone looked at this photo 86 00:05:03,736 --> 00:05:07,306 and didn't know anything about my history, 87 00:05:07,373 --> 00:05:11,610 they would just think it was a happy family, 88 00:05:11,678 --> 00:05:14,880 and you'd never know the man that was in this photo 89 00:05:14,947 --> 00:05:17,616 was so evil 90 00:05:17,684 --> 00:05:19,951 and had killed so many people. 91 00:05:21,888 --> 00:05:23,422 When I first looked at it, I just 92 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:29,328 covered his face, because looking at his face 93 00:05:29,395 --> 00:05:35,400 makes me doubt myself, because I love a man 94 00:05:35,468 --> 00:05:38,103 that's a serial killer. 95 00:05:57,156 --> 00:06:00,058 My father seemed like the perfect father. 96 00:06:01,227 --> 00:06:03,762 I thought he was just 97 00:06:03,796 --> 00:06:06,631 the greatest man alive. 98 00:06:08,434 --> 00:06:11,203 But my father was an alcoholic, 99 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:13,839 and he would say, "Let's go to the liquor store. 100 00:06:13,906 --> 00:06:15,774 Don't tell your mama, though." 101 00:06:15,842 --> 00:06:17,342 Hey, kiddo. 102 00:06:17,410 --> 00:06:19,511 It was a secret that we kept from my mother. 103 00:06:19,579 --> 00:06:23,081 It didn't seem very harmful to not tell her. 104 00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:25,817 Hey, you want to go for a ride with me? 105 00:06:25,885 --> 00:06:27,519 - Okay. - Yeah. 106 00:06:27,587 --> 00:06:29,855 But hey, don't say nothing. 107 00:06:29,922 --> 00:06:32,224 I remember one day, 108 00:06:32,258 --> 00:06:34,993 my mother was off work, we're getting in the van 109 00:06:35,061 --> 00:06:37,562 with my father, and she comes running out of the house. 110 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:40,899 Hey! Where the hell do you think you're going? 111 00:06:40,967 --> 00:06:44,102 And she screams, "You are not taking 112 00:06:44,170 --> 00:06:46,605 "my f'ing kids 113 00:06:46,672 --> 00:06:49,374 to the damn liquor store" 114 00:06:49,442 --> 00:06:50,776 was her exact words. 115 00:06:50,843 --> 00:06:53,979 She said, "Get my kids out of that car right now!" 116 00:06:54,046 --> 00:06:55,714 You get that kid out of the car, and you get back in 117 00:06:55,782 --> 00:06:57,215 the house right now. - Don't tell me what I can do. 118 00:06:57,283 --> 00:06:58,984 - No, absolutely not! - You don't tell me what I can't do. 119 00:06:59,051 --> 00:07:00,419 You are not going to the god... 120 00:07:00,486 --> 00:07:03,522 He just gets out of the van, and they get into a fistfight. 121 00:07:06,726 --> 00:07:08,960 My father that day looked like a Tasmanian devil, 122 00:07:09,028 --> 00:07:14,433 just his hands were just wailin' just on her. 123 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:18,003 I had never seen my father look angry. 124 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:20,972 Never. I was terrified, because that's 125 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,475 not the father that I knew. 126 00:07:23,543 --> 00:07:24,910 The next thing I know, 127 00:07:24,977 --> 00:07:29,214 she kicked him in between his legs and beat him up. 128 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:31,917 He was begging her to stop. 129 00:07:31,984 --> 00:07:33,084 "I'm not going to do this. 130 00:07:33,152 --> 00:07:34,953 "These children will not be going through this. 131 00:07:35,021 --> 00:07:37,622 "We come out here to have a better life, 132 00:07:37,690 --> 00:07:39,324 and my children will not see this anymore." 133 00:07:40,593 --> 00:07:43,495 We go to sleep that night and wake up to my father 134 00:07:43,563 --> 00:07:46,231 being there, apologizing and begging all of us 135 00:07:46,265 --> 00:07:47,599 to take him back. 136 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:51,803 And that is the only time he ever put his hands on my mother. 137 00:07:59,846 --> 00:08:02,614 This photo, we're sitting here 138 00:08:02,682 --> 00:08:05,584 playing around at the kitchen table. 139 00:08:05,651 --> 00:08:08,887 And he's acting like he's choking one of my sisters. 140 00:08:08,955 --> 00:08:14,392 When you look at this photo, knowing my father's crimes, 141 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:18,363 you would think he was hurting us here, 142 00:08:18,431 --> 00:08:21,633 and he's not, he's just playing around with us. 143 00:08:23,102 --> 00:08:27,339 If he was just any other man, it would be okay 144 00:08:27,373 --> 00:08:29,207 playing around. 145 00:08:29,275 --> 00:08:31,977 But it's not any other man. 146 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:35,247 When I look at this now, 147 00:08:35,314 --> 00:08:38,717 and I see his hands around my sister's throat, 148 00:08:38,784 --> 00:08:42,487 it makes me think of my sister being drug from 149 00:08:42,555 --> 00:08:48,293 the bedroom that's behind us to the living room in our house, 150 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:51,196 because my father was mad. 151 00:08:51,264 --> 00:08:57,202 ♪ 152 00:08:57,270 --> 00:09:00,272 My father was a carpenter. 153 00:09:00,306 --> 00:09:03,341 He "traveled" a lot for work, 154 00:09:03,409 --> 00:09:05,577 but I was -- I'm not sure what all 155 00:09:05,645 --> 00:09:09,414 work he was doing when he traveled. 156 00:09:09,482 --> 00:09:11,416 One time, my father went away 157 00:09:11,484 --> 00:09:15,921 for a one-day job and come back, 158 00:09:15,988 --> 00:09:18,490 and he seemed very different. 159 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:23,295 He would get angry very, very easily, 160 00:09:23,362 --> 00:09:25,297 and none of us knew why. 161 00:09:26,999 --> 00:09:29,434 - [makes growling noise] - [speaking into fan] 162 00:09:29,502 --> 00:09:30,602 [laughing] 163 00:09:30,670 --> 00:09:32,003 We didn't have central heating and air in the house, 164 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:34,105 so we had to use fans. 165 00:09:34,173 --> 00:09:36,775 We're just laying in front of the fan, and we were talking. 166 00:09:36,842 --> 00:09:39,144 You know, when you're talking in front of a fan, 167 00:09:39,211 --> 00:09:41,346 it makes the fan noise, 168 00:09:41,414 --> 00:09:43,481 and were being too loud, and it pissed him off. 169 00:09:43,549 --> 00:09:46,084 He was mad. 170 00:09:46,152 --> 00:09:47,319 [laughter] 171 00:09:47,386 --> 00:09:48,753 What is going on in here?! 172 00:09:51,490 --> 00:09:53,692 DEBORAH: He went into a violent rage, you know, 173 00:09:53,726 --> 00:09:56,761 "I done told you to shut up!" 174 00:09:56,829 --> 00:10:00,131 And he started to walk away, and my sister said something. 175 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:02,334 Jeez, relax. 176 00:10:04,537 --> 00:10:05,503 What did you just say? 177 00:10:07,740 --> 00:10:12,777 He just had this mean, mean, mean 178 00:10:12,845 --> 00:10:14,245 look on his face. 179 00:10:14,313 --> 00:10:19,250 ♪ 180 00:10:19,318 --> 00:10:20,852 And he dragged her from 181 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,289 the bedroom to the living room and whooped her. 182 00:10:26,659 --> 00:10:28,193 We were terrified. 183 00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:31,229 We didn't know when he was gonna stop, 184 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:32,130 [distant screaming] 185 00:10:32,198 --> 00:10:33,965 And hearin' her scream and holler, 186 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 [distant scream] 187 00:10:35,067 --> 00:10:37,435 And watching her try and kick him away, 188 00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:39,604 I can see it so vividly. 189 00:10:39,672 --> 00:10:43,808 [distant screaming] 190 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:47,946 It wasn't my father -- That wasn't a loving person. 191 00:10:48,014 --> 00:10:51,149 That was his alter ego, I guess. 192 00:10:52,985 --> 00:10:56,888 [distant screaming] 193 00:10:56,956 --> 00:10:58,423 Looking back, knowing what I know now, 194 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:00,759 It was around the time 195 00:11:00,826 --> 00:11:05,797 that he had committed murder, 196 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:08,166 and... 197 00:11:08,234 --> 00:11:12,470 it was like his hidden life and his real life 198 00:11:12,538 --> 00:11:13,905 were colliding together. 199 00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:30,255 His attitude and his behavior just completely changed. 200 00:11:30,322 --> 00:11:32,290 My father seemed very paranoid. 201 00:11:32,358 --> 00:11:34,259 He was not himself at all. 202 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:38,329 One day, we were playing outside, 203 00:11:38,397 --> 00:11:42,967 and my father just shows up out of nowhere, 204 00:11:43,035 --> 00:11:45,904 just really mad. - Not ever going back there! 205 00:11:45,971 --> 00:11:48,239 - Robert, calm down. - Well, you don't understand. 206 00:11:48,307 --> 00:11:49,874 I'm not going back to that place. 207 00:11:49,942 --> 00:11:51,276 DEBORAH: He's screaming and hollering at my mother, 208 00:11:51,343 --> 00:11:53,411 he's not going to go back to prison. 209 00:11:53,479 --> 00:11:55,747 He'll kill hisself first, 210 00:11:55,815 --> 00:11:59,050 and saying that he has his gun with him. 211 00:11:59,118 --> 00:12:00,518 Go ahead and take care of things right now. 212 00:12:00,586 --> 00:12:03,321 DEBORAH: As my mother and father were arguing, 213 00:12:03,389 --> 00:12:08,126 a family friend got the gun out of the van. 214 00:12:08,194 --> 00:12:10,562 I could see unloading the bullets 215 00:12:10,629 --> 00:12:12,430 and putting them in his pocket. 216 00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:14,899 Then he took off running, 217 00:12:14,967 --> 00:12:18,703 and my father turned around right when he did. 218 00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:21,306 I'll never forget the look on his face that day. 219 00:12:24,677 --> 00:12:26,644 His eyes were just taken over, 220 00:12:26,712 --> 00:12:28,747 like he was possessed by something. 221 00:12:30,049 --> 00:12:32,183 That's the same look that he had 222 00:12:32,251 --> 00:12:35,220 had when he whooped my sister. 223 00:12:35,287 --> 00:12:37,288 - Get back here with that! - DEBORAH: My father started 224 00:12:37,356 --> 00:12:41,326 chasing him and took off after him. 225 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,330 For some reason, he had to have that gun. 226 00:12:45,364 --> 00:12:47,732 He was dead set on killing 227 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,135 this man over his gun. 228 00:12:50,202 --> 00:12:53,438 I didn't know what to think. 229 00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:55,874 Looking back now, the gun that the man 230 00:12:55,941 --> 00:12:58,009 took from my father could have been 231 00:12:58,043 --> 00:13:02,514 one of the guns he used at one of his crime scenes. 232 00:13:02,581 --> 00:13:05,049 And my father wanted the gun back 233 00:13:05,117 --> 00:13:07,118 so badly because he was 234 00:13:07,186 --> 00:13:09,587 afraid if it got into the wrong hands, 235 00:13:09,655 --> 00:13:11,790 it would connect him to the crimes 236 00:13:11,857 --> 00:13:14,526 that he had committed. 237 00:13:14,593 --> 00:13:16,628 I can feel in my heart that 238 00:13:16,695 --> 00:13:20,465 that gun was connected to some crime somewhere. 239 00:13:29,241 --> 00:13:32,911 My father was obsessed with the news, and he would watch it 240 00:13:32,978 --> 00:13:37,782 all the time -- CNN on one TV, the local news on another TV. 241 00:13:39,618 --> 00:13:42,220 I figured he grew up that way, watching 242 00:13:42,288 --> 00:13:46,024 the news with my grandfather, so that's what it was for, 243 00:13:46,091 --> 00:13:49,060 and now I know different. 244 00:13:49,128 --> 00:13:52,163 He was afraid that he was going to get caught, and he had 245 00:13:52,231 --> 00:13:54,833 to know and have time to run 246 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:56,668 before they were able to catch him. 247 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,807 One day, we're sitting there watching 248 00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:05,043 the news in the living room as a family. 249 00:14:06,445 --> 00:14:09,814 This crime comes across of a woman 250 00:14:09,882 --> 00:14:14,319 and a child being killed very close to home. 251 00:14:14,386 --> 00:14:16,154 Oh, my God, this is horrible. 252 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:20,225 He went in the house, 253 00:14:20,292 --> 00:14:24,629 bound and gagged the mother and daughter, 254 00:14:24,697 --> 00:14:26,598 raped the daughter, 255 00:14:26,632 --> 00:14:30,168 and killed both of the mother and daughter. 256 00:14:30,236 --> 00:14:33,805 Robert, this is just a few blocks away from here. 257 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:38,543 And my mother gets very scared, because there was 258 00:14:38,611 --> 00:14:40,578 no robbery -- they just come in, 259 00:14:40,646 --> 00:14:44,015 killed the mother and child, and left. 260 00:14:44,083 --> 00:14:47,819 She told my father she was scared for us, 261 00:14:47,853 --> 00:14:51,089 and my father talked 262 00:14:51,156 --> 00:14:53,858 like, "Oh, it's not gonna happen to us. 263 00:14:53,926 --> 00:14:55,660 You don't have to worry about it." 264 00:14:55,694 --> 00:14:57,161 Just keep the doors locked. 265 00:14:59,565 --> 00:15:00,765 Nothing's gonna happen. 266 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:05,470 We didn't I think that the man sitting on 267 00:15:05,537 --> 00:15:09,107 the couch reassuring us that it's not gonna happen to us 268 00:15:09,174 --> 00:15:11,142 is the man that done it. 269 00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:17,715 ♪ 270 00:15:17,783 --> 00:15:20,118 My father knew it was him they were looking for, 271 00:15:20,152 --> 00:15:22,220 and he never freaked out. 272 00:15:22,288 --> 00:15:25,556 You would think if your own sketch come across the screen, 273 00:15:25,624 --> 00:15:27,191 and your own crime did, 274 00:15:27,259 --> 00:15:30,728 that you would freak out, and he didn't. 275 00:15:33,265 --> 00:15:35,700 And the sketch come on the screen and everything. 276 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:40,571 We looked at the sketch, and we never thought ever, 277 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:42,307 in a million years, it was my father. 278 00:15:42,374 --> 00:15:47,178 But 20 years later, when I look at the actual sketch 279 00:15:47,246 --> 00:15:49,280 that they put on the news, 280 00:15:49,381 --> 00:15:50,815 it was my father. 281 00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:57,922 ♪ 282 00:15:57,990 --> 00:16:01,025 They look nothing alike at all. 283 00:16:01,093 --> 00:16:04,696 Nothing alike. So you would have 284 00:16:04,763 --> 00:16:06,898 never thought this man was this man. 285 00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:10,134 But that was the same person 286 00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:12,837 And this is the same person. 287 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,908 And this is the same person. 288 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:18,710 This is the same person, too. 289 00:16:19,745 --> 00:16:22,013 But they look nothing like him. 290 00:16:23,582 --> 00:16:25,917 He put a wig on 291 00:16:25,951 --> 00:16:29,187 every time he done something -- Changing your hair makes you 292 00:16:29,254 --> 00:16:30,421 look a whole lot different, 293 00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:32,924 the color of your hair or anything makes you look 294 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:34,325 a whole lot different. 295 00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:49,107 One day, we had to take my aunt to the Greyhound bus stop in 296 00:16:49,174 --> 00:16:51,075 Memphis, Tennessee, to catch 297 00:16:51,143 --> 00:16:56,014 a bus back to Alabama, and we pull in, my mother and my aunt 298 00:16:56,081 --> 00:17:00,752 get out of the van and go inside to get her bus ticket. 299 00:17:00,819 --> 00:17:03,254 As we're sitting there, 300 00:17:03,322 --> 00:17:06,290 police surround the entire bus stop. 301 00:17:09,628 --> 00:17:11,662 Christ, what the hell is all this? 302 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:15,466 DEBORAH: And my father starts freaking out. 303 00:17:15,534 --> 00:17:21,105 The police are behind our van, beside our van, everywhere. 304 00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:23,408 He looks distraught, he's looking left, right, 305 00:17:23,475 --> 00:17:25,076 up and down, and he took 306 00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:28,212 his glasses off, and he took his hat off and threw them on 307 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,881 the dashboard. 308 00:17:29,948 --> 00:17:32,183 Hey, sit still and be quiet. 309 00:17:33,252 --> 00:17:34,519 He got stern with us. 310 00:17:34,586 --> 00:17:36,654 He was like, "Y'all just shut up now, just shut up and don't 311 00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:39,624 say nothing," lookin' in the rearview mirror, 312 00:17:39,658 --> 00:17:43,795 looking in the side mirrors, over and over and over again, 313 00:17:43,862 --> 00:17:48,166 and just sweating and just tensed up, 314 00:17:48,233 --> 00:17:50,902 and you could tell he just 315 00:17:50,969 --> 00:17:53,905 did not know what to do. 316 00:17:55,207 --> 00:17:57,075 I wondered, what are you afraid of? 317 00:17:57,142 --> 00:17:59,310 Why are you acting like this? 318 00:17:59,378 --> 00:18:03,081 But I knew better than to ask that question. 319 00:18:04,817 --> 00:18:07,051 What the hell is taking them so long? 320 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,519 DEBORAH: Looking back now, 321 00:18:08,554 --> 00:18:12,457 I think my father took his sunglasses and hat off because 322 00:18:12,491 --> 00:18:16,227 he didn't want them to look at him and think, "Oh, 323 00:18:16,295 --> 00:18:20,498 this is a sketch of a man that raped a 14-year-old girl." 324 00:18:21,967 --> 00:18:23,234 All right. I got her a ticket. 325 00:18:23,302 --> 00:18:25,136 Well, hurry up. Let's go. 326 00:18:25,204 --> 00:18:27,538 DEBORAH: My mother come and get in the van. 327 00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:29,340 He's like, "We gotta go, we gotta go." 328 00:18:29,408 --> 00:18:31,342 - Let's go. - What's wrong? 329 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:32,543 I don't know what the hell all this is, 330 00:18:32,611 --> 00:18:33,911 but I don't want to be here for it. 331 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,015 Later on, they find out that it 332 00:18:38,083 --> 00:18:41,619 was a prostitution sting at the bus station. 333 00:18:41,687 --> 00:18:44,222 It scared him. He was terrified. 334 00:18:44,256 --> 00:18:46,858 He thought he was going down then. 335 00:18:46,925 --> 00:18:49,894 I don't know if my father had a gun on him that day or not. 336 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:51,429 I don't know what would have happened 337 00:18:51,497 --> 00:18:53,097 if the police would have come up to the door 338 00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:54,866 and said, "Excuse me, Mr. Brashers, gonna need 339 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:58,136 for you to step out." No one knows. 340 00:18:58,203 --> 00:19:00,938 But it terrifies me now, 341 00:19:01,006 --> 00:19:03,574 thinking about what would have happened. 342 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:16,087 One day, me and my sisters were at 343 00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:19,323 the softball field, and they had a softball game that day. 344 00:19:19,391 --> 00:19:23,427 My mother and father come and watch, and after the softball 345 00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:26,164 game is over with, they're like, "Come here for a second. 346 00:19:26,198 --> 00:19:28,566 Come look at this at the back of the van." 347 00:19:28,634 --> 00:19:31,802 Hey, we have a surprise for you. 348 00:19:31,870 --> 00:19:35,306 - Check out that window there. - And it said, 349 00:19:35,374 --> 00:19:38,743 "Just married" on the back of the van. 350 00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:41,379 He wrote it in the dust. 351 00:19:41,446 --> 00:19:45,116 - Just married? - DEBORAH: They were happy. 352 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,285 We were happy. 353 00:19:47,352 --> 00:19:49,120 But we go to school, 354 00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:50,755 you're not married, y'all coming to pick us 355 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:53,991 up from the baseball field, and y'all are married. 356 00:19:54,059 --> 00:19:55,393 Why weren't we there? 357 00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:57,828 How come we didn't get to come? 358 00:19:57,896 --> 00:20:00,198 Why didn't you say something? 359 00:20:00,265 --> 00:20:04,335 DEBORAH: Years later, I learned that my father 360 00:20:04,403 --> 00:20:05,970 decided that he was going 361 00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:08,606 to break into a woman's house that he had done work 362 00:20:08,674 --> 00:20:10,875 for before 363 00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:14,478 and cut her phone line. 364 00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:16,180 He had a gun. 365 00:20:16,248 --> 00:20:19,383 I think he was gonna break in and kill this woman. 366 00:20:19,418 --> 00:20:22,186 But he got caught breaking in her house. 367 00:20:22,254 --> 00:20:27,091 When he got arrested, he was in jail that one night. 368 00:20:27,125 --> 00:20:30,461 And then the very next day, he comes back, 369 00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:32,163 and him and my mother are married. 370 00:20:33,999 --> 00:20:37,201 Your spouse cannot be called 371 00:20:37,269 --> 00:20:39,937 to testify against you. 372 00:20:40,005 --> 00:20:41,572 That is why they got married. 373 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,275 They did not get married because they loved each other. 374 00:20:44,343 --> 00:20:45,643 They only got married 375 00:20:45,711 --> 00:20:48,679 so my mother could not be used as a witness against my father. 376 00:20:50,716 --> 00:20:53,584 After that, it just changed. 377 00:20:53,652 --> 00:20:56,420 It was just a big, complete change. 378 00:20:56,455 --> 00:20:58,222 Come on, honey, let's go. 379 00:21:04,029 --> 00:21:07,932 DEBORAH: One day my father was around, loving, caring. 380 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,335 And then the next day, my father is gone, 381 00:21:11,403 --> 00:21:13,571 and I'm told he's on the run. 382 00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:16,307 His court date was coming up 383 00:21:16,375 --> 00:21:19,176 on his gun charges, and he was afraid of the police, 384 00:21:19,244 --> 00:21:22,046 and he was trying to make sure they didn't find out 385 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:23,581 who he was. 386 00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:26,684 They didn't know that my father was a killer. 387 00:21:26,752 --> 00:21:30,187 My mother told me that, "Your daddy had done 388 00:21:30,255 --> 00:21:33,591 "a bad thing, and he didn't go to court for it, 389 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:35,860 so now he is on the run." 390 00:21:35,927 --> 00:21:39,530 She thought it was just a simple gun charge, 391 00:21:39,598 --> 00:21:43,834 not knowing he'd done a lot more than that. 392 00:21:43,902 --> 00:21:48,406 Whenever we could see my father, 393 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:51,175 she would make sure we got to see him. 394 00:21:51,243 --> 00:21:55,279 One day, my mother said, "We're gonna go pick up 395 00:21:55,347 --> 00:21:57,014 your daddy," and I'm like, okay, 396 00:21:57,082 --> 00:22:00,017 but we knew that he couldn't be seen. 397 00:22:01,386 --> 00:22:03,354 So we went and bought a rug, 398 00:22:03,422 --> 00:22:06,223 and he was sitting in the back seat. 399 00:22:14,933 --> 00:22:16,233 Once we got to the house, 400 00:22:16,301 --> 00:22:20,905 we got the rug out of the trunk, and we unraveled it. 401 00:22:22,607 --> 00:22:23,774 It was really big. 402 00:22:23,842 --> 00:22:25,810 We tried to act like it was too heavy for all of us 403 00:22:25,877 --> 00:22:27,445 to carry, you know, at one time. 404 00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:29,647 We held the road for where he could get out of the car, 405 00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:31,315 so nobody could see him get out. 406 00:22:33,251 --> 00:22:35,252 We're all acting like we're struggling 407 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,854 to bring this rug in the house, 408 00:22:36,922 --> 00:22:40,091 and really my father's crouched down in the middle of 409 00:22:40,158 --> 00:22:41,125 the rug as we're, 410 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:44,061 you know, walking the rug into the house. 411 00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:48,566 At the time of me being a young girl, 412 00:22:48,633 --> 00:22:50,935 I thought this was hilarious. - Hold it up high. 413 00:22:52,270 --> 00:22:54,972 I knew I had to keep my father a secret, 414 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,040 everything about him, 415 00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:57,641 or if not, he would get caught. 416 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:08,719 I wanted a father so badly that, no matter what it took, 417 00:23:08,787 --> 00:23:10,821 I was okay with it. 418 00:23:10,889 --> 00:23:12,022 I didn't ask questions. 419 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:15,059 I didn't care, because I had a daddy. 420 00:23:15,127 --> 00:23:16,994 Hey. 421 00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:18,763 Thank you for helping me out. 422 00:23:18,830 --> 00:23:20,364 Really means a lot to me. 423 00:23:20,465 --> 00:23:23,134 DEBORAH: I did not tell no one, because I didn't want 424 00:23:23,201 --> 00:23:24,135 my daddy to get caught. 425 00:23:24,202 --> 00:23:25,669 I didn't want my daddy to go away. 426 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:28,472 Hopefully all this will be over soon. 427 00:23:28,507 --> 00:23:30,141 DEBORAH: Because I knew my father had already 428 00:23:30,208 --> 00:23:32,510 said he was not going back to prison. 429 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,682 [sobbing quietly] 430 00:23:41,052 --> 00:23:42,520 [sniffles] 431 00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:46,957 [sobbing quietly] 432 00:23:50,128 --> 00:23:51,962 He was a coward. 433 00:23:51,997 --> 00:23:54,465 He manipulated me. 434 00:23:54,499 --> 00:23:59,703 I just wish I would have said something when I was little. 435 00:23:59,771 --> 00:24:04,041 I wish I would have told the police that my father 436 00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:06,177 was at my house, 437 00:24:06,244 --> 00:24:08,646 and he would have gotten caught, 438 00:24:08,713 --> 00:24:12,416 he would have gotten charged with everything. 439 00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:15,619 But I didn't. 440 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:21,325 I done what daddy said to do. 441 00:24:23,261 --> 00:24:26,864 It's really, really hard not to blame myself, 442 00:24:26,932 --> 00:24:31,535 because I knew he was on the run. 443 00:24:31,603 --> 00:24:34,071 I knew it was wrong. 444 00:24:34,172 --> 00:24:37,675 And I should have said something, 445 00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,009 and I didn't. 446 00:24:47,452 --> 00:24:50,221 It was like it was back to the American dream 447 00:24:50,288 --> 00:24:55,526 for a couple of days, and then he was gone. 448 00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:57,795 The next time we went and seen him 449 00:24:57,829 --> 00:25:00,564 was when we went to Kennett, Missouri. 450 00:25:00,632 --> 00:25:05,102 My mother got a calling card in the mail 451 00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:07,872 and a number to call, and she called it, 452 00:25:07,939 --> 00:25:10,074 and my father said that he had a hotel 453 00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:12,810 in Kennett, Missouri, and that he wanted us to come up. 454 00:25:15,881 --> 00:25:19,850 We got to the hotel, we go up to the room. 455 00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:22,553 Hey! Look at my girls! 456 00:25:22,621 --> 00:25:24,321 - Daddy! - Oh! 457 00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:26,056 DEBORAH: My father is so happy to see us. 458 00:25:26,124 --> 00:25:29,693 He's hugging us, loving on us, we're loving on him. 459 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:34,932 But once we get in there, my mother sets us down 460 00:25:34,966 --> 00:25:37,601 and tells us that my father's name is Mitch. 461 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:42,740 That's the name that the hotel room's under, and that if anyone 462 00:25:42,807 --> 00:25:44,642 asked, his name is Mitch. 463 00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,544 We're gonna play a game of pretend, okay? 464 00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:48,746 We're not gonna call him daddy anymore. 465 00:25:48,813 --> 00:25:50,247 DEBORAH: It was hard for me to call 466 00:25:50,315 --> 00:25:52,883 him Mitch, because that's my daddy. 467 00:25:52,951 --> 00:25:54,385 Okay. 468 00:25:54,452 --> 00:25:57,221 But I knew that everything that my mother was 469 00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:59,590 asking and my father was asking of us to do, 470 00:25:59,658 --> 00:26:03,527 I knew that was to keep my father safe from going to jail. 471 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:06,564 My father seemed carefree, 472 00:26:06,631 --> 00:26:09,733 like he had no worries in the world. 473 00:26:09,801 --> 00:26:13,871 He didn't seem stressed out like I'd seen him before, 474 00:26:13,939 --> 00:26:18,776 and it was just a family vacation at a hotel. 475 00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:21,111 It was amazing. 476 00:26:21,179 --> 00:26:22,479 It was the best time that we had 477 00:26:22,547 --> 00:26:25,015 had since he had been on the run. 478 00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:38,696 Before we left the hotel that night to go out to eat, 479 00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:40,097 he went into the bathroom and come 480 00:26:40,165 --> 00:26:44,134 back out with some sandy-colored hair. 481 00:26:44,202 --> 00:26:45,302 It was a wig. 482 00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:49,340 Okay, everyone ready? 483 00:26:50,508 --> 00:26:54,745 DEBORAH: And then he had sunglasses and a hat on. 484 00:26:54,813 --> 00:27:00,351 I knew why he had to do that, because he was on 485 00:27:00,418 --> 00:27:03,487 the run, and the police wouldn't be able to notice 486 00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:04,755 who he was. 487 00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:06,156 Tell you what, 488 00:27:06,224 --> 00:27:10,527 on the way back, we'll stop, pick you up somethin' special. 489 00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:12,463 DEBORAH: He looked just like a normal guy, 490 00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:15,032 just with different color hair. 491 00:27:15,066 --> 00:27:16,567 After he put his disguise on, 492 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:18,936 and we went out to eat and went shopping, 493 00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:21,805 he took us to Walmart. 494 00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:23,974 I got a Doodle Bear, and I wrote, 495 00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:25,342 "I love Daddy" all over it. 496 00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:30,814 This is a Doodle Bear, 497 00:27:30,882 --> 00:27:35,519 the toy that I bought when we went shopping. 498 00:27:35,587 --> 00:27:38,922 And I wrote, "I love my Daddy" all over it. 499 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:42,726 We wrote little messages on there to each other. 500 00:27:42,794 --> 00:27:47,398 I wrote it on one arm, and he wrote back on the other one, 501 00:27:47,465 --> 00:27:51,235 "I love you so much, too, darling." 502 00:27:51,302 --> 00:27:54,238 And handed it back to me. 503 00:27:54,305 --> 00:27:57,741 That night, we wrote stuff back and forth to each other. 504 00:27:57,809 --> 00:28:01,245 I went to sleep cuddlin' the bear that night 505 00:28:01,312 --> 00:28:04,281 and woke up to police everywhere. 506 00:28:06,217 --> 00:28:08,786 [heavy music playing] 507 00:28:12,924 --> 00:28:18,228 I wake up from my sleep, and there's police everywhere. 508 00:28:18,296 --> 00:28:20,330 Seems like 20 cops in the room 509 00:28:20,398 --> 00:28:23,567 with their guns drawn, flashlights out. 510 00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:25,869 [indistinct shouting] 511 00:28:25,937 --> 00:28:27,204 My father had a gun to his head. 512 00:28:27,272 --> 00:28:31,041 Don't do it! [indistinct talking] 513 00:28:31,109 --> 00:28:32,109 They were screaming at him, 514 00:28:32,177 --> 00:28:33,711 "Please, sir, put the gun down, please, sir, 515 00:28:33,778 --> 00:28:36,113 put the gun down," and he wouldn't do it. 516 00:28:36,181 --> 00:28:38,148 OFFICER: Give that -- Give that to me! 517 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,154 - Get back! Get back! - OFFICER: Sir, put it down. 518 00:28:44,222 --> 00:28:45,689 You get any closer, I will do it. 519 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,491 DEBORAH: My father did not know why the police were there. 520 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,560 Back! Get back from me. 521 00:28:49,594 --> 00:28:53,097 DEBORAH: I thought that they showed up because of me. 522 00:28:54,132 --> 00:28:56,467 Maybe because I called him daddy, because I couldn't call 523 00:28:56,534 --> 00:28:57,835 him Mitch -- that was my daddy. 524 00:28:57,902 --> 00:29:00,571 It was hard to call him another name. 525 00:29:00,638 --> 00:29:04,141 Later, I learned the reason the police showed up was 526 00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:09,446 because they were just looking into a stolen license plate. 527 00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:13,851 They did not know he had committed any crimes at all. 528 00:29:13,885 --> 00:29:19,857 But he thought that he was caught over everything. 529 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,629 My father looked scared. 530 00:29:25,697 --> 00:29:30,267 He looked... terrified. 531 00:29:30,335 --> 00:29:32,870 Like a dog 532 00:29:32,937 --> 00:29:35,405 cowered in a corner, where you're about to whoop them. 533 00:29:35,473 --> 00:29:38,742 You know, they know that look on, like, which exit 534 00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:42,513 can I get out of, and there was no way for him to exit. 535 00:29:42,547 --> 00:29:43,947 OFFICER: Drop your gun! 536 00:29:44,015 --> 00:29:46,250 He knew how that night was gonna end. 537 00:29:46,284 --> 00:29:49,119 Don't point that at him! Leave him alone! 538 00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:51,588 DEBORAH: My sister jumps up, throws her arms out. 539 00:29:51,656 --> 00:29:53,857 "You're not gonna shoot my daddy," 540 00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:56,426 and then they escort us out of the room. 541 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,265 He didn't want to let us go, 542 00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:05,102 because I knew, my sisters knew, 543 00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:07,905 and my mother knew the moment we walked 544 00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:09,306 out of that room, 545 00:30:09,374 --> 00:30:12,376 that was the last time we'd ever see him alive. 546 00:30:14,145 --> 00:30:18,415 We're sitting at the end of the hallway, and I'm in shock. 547 00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:21,385 I can't believe that I just woke up to 548 00:30:21,452 --> 00:30:22,486 all these police officers, 549 00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:24,488 my mother's screaming and hollerin' not to look at 550 00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:26,890 what's going on behind me. 551 00:30:26,958 --> 00:30:29,293 I'm thinking maybe this is a dream. 552 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,662 Maybe this isn't going on. 553 00:30:31,696 --> 00:30:32,663 They were trying to talk him 554 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:35,632 down to where he didn't shoot hisself. 555 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,202 They were trying to stop it, 556 00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:40,437 but they couldn't. 557 00:30:47,812 --> 00:30:50,581 Me and my sisters were at the hospital in a room, 558 00:30:50,648 --> 00:30:53,350 watching TV, and my mother 559 00:30:53,418 --> 00:30:55,819 and my grandfather come in and say that they need to 560 00:30:55,887 --> 00:30:57,387 talk to us. 561 00:30:57,455 --> 00:30:59,823 I was told my daddy was dead. 562 00:31:04,028 --> 00:31:08,065 They told me that there was a gunshot through his head, 563 00:31:08,099 --> 00:31:11,735 that it killed his brain, and without your brain, 564 00:31:11,803 --> 00:31:13,470 your body doesn't work. 565 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,876 And so they have him on life support, 566 00:31:18,943 --> 00:31:20,477 and he's an organ donor. 567 00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:26,483 I asked to see him, and when we walked in the room, 568 00:31:28,453 --> 00:31:30,220 his whole face was bandaged. 569 00:31:30,288 --> 00:31:32,456 All you could see was his chin. 570 00:31:34,826 --> 00:31:36,226 We were able to hold his hand, 571 00:31:36,294 --> 00:31:39,196 and I remember holding his hand, and they were warm. 572 00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:44,401 And I kept asking, "How is he dead 573 00:31:44,469 --> 00:31:47,037 if he's warm?" 574 00:32:02,553 --> 00:32:04,154 He chose to die. 575 00:32:04,222 --> 00:32:07,357 He chose to take his own life. 576 00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:13,096 Why, over a gun charge, would you do that? 577 00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:15,666 Me finding out that he killed himself 578 00:32:15,733 --> 00:32:20,504 made me believe that he doesn't love me. 579 00:32:20,571 --> 00:32:22,372 He never loved me. 580 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,008 I could have went and seen him in 581 00:32:25,076 --> 00:32:28,378 jail if he would have gotten arrested. 582 00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:29,947 Just because you're behind bars 583 00:32:29,981 --> 00:32:32,416 doesn't mean that my life stops. 584 00:32:33,651 --> 00:32:37,854 But my life stopped when you killed yourself. 585 00:32:37,922 --> 00:32:39,389 That he would rather die than be 586 00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:41,291 able to see me through a glass... 587 00:32:42,927 --> 00:32:46,663 I felt my father hated me and did not care. 588 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:51,435 What did I ever do to you for you 589 00:32:51,469 --> 00:32:55,339 to hate me is what I thought for 20 years. 590 00:33:06,284 --> 00:33:07,718 I learned all the details of what 591 00:33:07,752 --> 00:33:12,990 my father had done in September of 2018. 592 00:33:13,057 --> 00:33:15,192 I was a stay-at-home mom. 593 00:33:15,259 --> 00:33:18,028 My husband worked full-time, and... 594 00:33:19,364 --> 00:33:20,998 then I get a knock on the door. 595 00:33:21,032 --> 00:33:22,599 [knocking noises] 596 00:33:26,738 --> 00:33:30,207 Hi, ma'am. We're investigating a series of homicides locally. 597 00:33:32,143 --> 00:33:34,678 This is about my dad, isn't it? 598 00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:38,715 It was an instant gut feeling that I knew, and that's 599 00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:42,786 when they told me that my father was a serial killer. 600 00:33:49,127 --> 00:33:50,794 DEBORAH: They're like, "Your father is a suspect 601 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:53,330 "of three murders, a rape, 602 00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:55,699 and an attempted burglary." 603 00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:59,169 And he got away with his crimes for 20 years 604 00:33:59,237 --> 00:34:01,171 almost before 605 00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:04,708 anyone ever knew who he was, and the whole time he was dead. 606 00:34:04,776 --> 00:34:07,010 Oh, my god. 607 00:34:07,078 --> 00:34:11,181 They had DNA from the last crime scene that he had done, 608 00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:15,318 and I knew about the genetic testing. 609 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:19,489 Okay, um... What do you need for me? 610 00:34:19,524 --> 00:34:21,124 And I'm like, "Do y'all need DNA? 611 00:34:21,192 --> 00:34:22,793 "Do you need a picture of him? 612 00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:23,994 What all do you need?" 613 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:25,395 And they're like, "Oh, we have a DNA kit in the car. 614 00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:26,430 Do you mind?" I'm like, "No, 615 00:34:26,497 --> 00:34:28,398 I'll do whatever it takes to help you." 616 00:34:28,433 --> 00:34:29,699 Yeah, of course. 617 00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:35,338 I was giving them everything that they needed, because I 618 00:34:35,406 --> 00:34:38,041 wanted them to leave as quick as possible 619 00:34:38,109 --> 00:34:43,780 so that I could go in my house and just cry, 620 00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:45,449 because I knew it was true. 621 00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:57,227 The detectives leave, and I just search 622 00:34:57,295 --> 00:35:00,764 and search and search and search and search. 623 00:35:00,865 --> 00:35:03,233 I added everything up, looking at all of 624 00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:05,235 the cases, everything. 625 00:35:06,471 --> 00:35:09,506 My father's crimes started in 1983. 626 00:35:09,574 --> 00:35:15,112 He went to prison in 1985 in Florida for attempted murder 627 00:35:15,179 --> 00:35:16,947 and rape on a woman who, 628 00:35:16,981 --> 00:35:21,218 thankfully, lived, and then in 1990, 629 00:35:21,252 --> 00:35:24,588 as soon as he gets out, he goes and kills 630 00:35:24,622 --> 00:35:26,323 Jenny Zitricki. 631 00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:35,532 He went in and beat and raped her and strangled her 632 00:35:35,566 --> 00:35:37,968 and left her in her bathtub 633 00:35:38,035 --> 00:35:41,671 and then wrote on a mirror, "Don't [bleep] with my family," 634 00:35:41,739 --> 00:35:44,541 to throw them off their tracks. 635 00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:52,616 Jenny was killed in 1990, and I was born a year later. 636 00:35:52,683 --> 00:35:57,754 But when he killed her, he was dating my mother at the time. 637 00:35:57,788 --> 00:35:59,122 [quietly] Oh, my god. 638 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:04,528 In 1992, in Cobb County, Georgia, 639 00:36:04,595 --> 00:36:07,397 he goes to jail for impersonating a police officer 640 00:36:07,465 --> 00:36:12,402 and being a felon in possession of a gun. 641 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:16,373 He gets out of prison in 1997, 642 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,679 and then goes to Memphis, Tennessee, in 1997 643 00:36:22,780 --> 00:36:27,984 and rapes a 14-year-old girl and leaves her alive. 644 00:36:30,621 --> 00:36:35,058 In 1998, in Missouri, my father killed a mother 645 00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:37,994 and a daughter and raped the daughter, as well. 646 00:36:41,365 --> 00:36:45,902 Also in 1998, he breaks into a house in Arkansas 647 00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:48,705 and cuts a woman's phone line 648 00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:51,708 and gets caught -- Not long after that 649 00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:55,645 is when he went on the run. 650 00:36:55,713 --> 00:36:58,848 The timeline of the crimes matched where he lived at. 651 00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:01,751 All the dates just added up, 652 00:37:01,819 --> 00:37:06,456 and I said, I know in my heart, in my gut, 653 00:37:06,524 --> 00:37:10,660 that my father is the person that done every bit of this. 654 00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:24,574 This is Jenny Zitricki. 655 00:37:24,642 --> 00:37:27,777 This is the article of the cold case. 656 00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:33,016 The way he hurt her 657 00:37:34,685 --> 00:37:36,219 and strangled her... 658 00:37:38,656 --> 00:37:40,457 And then you look at our family photo, and you 659 00:37:40,491 --> 00:37:44,361 think of him putting his hand around my sister's neck. 660 00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:48,231 When I see that photo, 661 00:37:48,299 --> 00:37:51,401 I think of this innocent woman 662 00:37:51,469 --> 00:37:54,437 who didn't deserve anything done to her. 663 00:37:55,473 --> 00:37:57,907 She never had a chance to become a wife, 664 00:37:57,975 --> 00:38:00,610 a mother, anything. 665 00:38:01,779 --> 00:38:05,215 What could possess you 666 00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:08,551 to hurt this innocent woman, any innocent woman? 667 00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:13,423 And then I look at this one, 668 00:38:13,491 --> 00:38:17,494 and this is the one that hurts even worse, 669 00:38:17,561 --> 00:38:18,828 because... 670 00:38:19,864 --> 00:38:22,232 this little girl was the same age 671 00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:25,902 as your daughters almost, or my sisters, 672 00:38:27,838 --> 00:38:31,474 and this wife, you had one of your own. 673 00:38:31,542 --> 00:38:34,644 Did you not think about their family and what would 674 00:38:34,712 --> 00:38:37,247 happen to their family when they found them 675 00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:38,415 the way they did? 676 00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:42,185 But you didn't care. 677 00:38:55,066 --> 00:39:00,337 My DNA helped identify my father's DNA at a crime scene, 678 00:39:00,404 --> 00:39:03,306 at multiple crime scenes, 679 00:39:03,374 --> 00:39:06,276 and, at that moment, 680 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,312 I did not feel like I let my father down, 681 00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:11,715 like I had all my life. 682 00:39:11,782 --> 00:39:15,919 I felt like I had just helped a lot of people. 683 00:39:15,986 --> 00:39:17,387 It did not feel like a betrayal 684 00:39:17,455 --> 00:39:20,924 towards my father, because he betrayed me first. 685 00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:23,393 At that moment, it was 686 00:39:23,461 --> 00:39:27,497 a hatred towards my father, and I don't like the w-- 687 00:39:27,565 --> 00:39:31,434 That word at all, but I hated my father. 688 00:39:31,502 --> 00:39:34,838 I do suspect my father has committed other crimes that 689 00:39:34,905 --> 00:39:37,607 have never been uncovered, and 690 00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:41,277 the investigators suspect him of a lot more crime, 691 00:39:41,345 --> 00:39:44,781 especially rapes, I do believe, 692 00:39:44,849 --> 00:39:46,583 but no one knows. 693 00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:56,359 This news killed my mother. 694 00:39:56,427 --> 00:39:58,661 She had cirrhosis of the liver. 695 00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:02,532 We found out in October. She died December 23. 696 00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:06,202 She felt guilty, because she could have 697 00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:10,740 turned her husband in, but she chose not to 698 00:40:10,808 --> 00:40:14,544 because she thought it was just a simple gun charge. 699 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,815 She could have saved lives. 700 00:40:18,883 --> 00:40:20,550 She gave up. 701 00:40:20,618 --> 00:40:23,520 She didn't want to be here anymore. 702 00:40:23,587 --> 00:40:26,589 She didn't want people looking at her and questioning her of 703 00:40:26,657 --> 00:40:29,959 how could you have a serial killer 704 00:40:30,027 --> 00:40:34,764 as a husband and not know it? 705 00:40:34,832 --> 00:40:40,170 I just want my mama so bad, and that's what hurts 706 00:40:40,237 --> 00:40:44,507 the most about all of this is I hate my father 707 00:40:44,575 --> 00:40:47,877 even more because 708 00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:51,881 my mother is not here because of him. 709 00:41:04,328 --> 00:41:06,663 A knock at my door turned my life 710 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:11,334 upside down, and I've been trying to 711 00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:13,803 cope with this ever since, 712 00:41:13,871 --> 00:41:16,840 and every day, it's a struggle. 713 00:41:16,907 --> 00:41:20,443 I have no idea what it'll take for me 714 00:41:20,511 --> 00:41:23,413 to heal from this, I really don't know. 715 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,882 I went from being Robert Eugene Brashers's 716 00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:29,953 daughter to being the daughter of an American 717 00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:32,355 serial killer and rapist. 718 00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:35,992 How do you turn off 719 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:39,929 the love for someone that's a serial killer 720 00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:44,000 but half of your genes... 721 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:48,071 half of my genes come from him. 722 00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:52,675 And how can I say I love this man? 723 00:41:55,913 --> 00:41:59,449 No matter what I do, no matter how hard I try, 724 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:04,053 I could never run away from this, because it's always on 725 00:42:04,121 --> 00:42:05,955 my mind. 726 00:42:06,023 --> 00:42:07,724 I know the truth. 727 00:42:07,791 --> 00:42:09,893 It's not my fault, but I still... 728 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,861 [sobbing] 729 00:42:11,929 --> 00:42:15,365 I still fight with it every day, 730 00:42:15,399 --> 00:42:19,669 and I want one day to be able to 731 00:42:19,737 --> 00:42:23,339 wake up and not remember that 732 00:42:23,407 --> 00:42:25,975 I'm the daughter of a serial killer.