So this is Grandview Park.
I haven't been here for...
30 years.
This is a beautiful place to be,
but this place holds no good memories.
Most people don't know what happened.
Tony and I and some friends were here over 30 years ago
having a picnic on the hillside,
and they headed down that hillside into these woods
onto that path... I stayed behind.
I didn't really want to see
a place where
someone was murdered.
The experience of being with Tony Fiebiger...
It is like a permanent tattoo without the ink.
That name, I will forever remember for very bad reasons.
Who walks around and thinks, possibly my
husband is a serial killer and my boyfriend...
You don't... that's not even in the realm of rational thinking.
It's just such a sickening... wow.
And then I feel like, okay, how many of
my co-workers and everyone's gonna see this
and say, "Sharon, what were you thinking?"
But I'm telling you, I'm telling you,
it can happen to anyone.
It can happen to anyone.
[The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays]
[strings continue playing sinister tune]
[static crackling]
[knock at door] [creaking]
[banging on door]
[creaking]
[water dripping]
[banging on door] [creaking]
[sinister chord strikes]
MORRIS: I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
I was studying to be a nurse.
I was commuting back and forth from my parents' house
to school... I wanted my own apartment.
I found an apartment.
The bottom apartment was empty for a while,
maybe 2, 3 months.
And then Anthony Fiebiger moved in.
Coming home from school, coming home from work,
he would be outside, setting up a grill,
and he would say hello.
I would say hello, and we just started talking.
That's how we got to know each other.
- You want a beer? - Yeah.
Why not?
He wasn't very attractive.
He was overweight.
He was bald, but he was charming and sweet.
After talking to him over and over and over,
he seemed to become funnier to me,
become more relaxed, having casual conversation.
And before I knew it, we were hanging out more and more.
Tony and I dated for a while,
several months... next thing you know, we were living together.
I hadn't really dated anyone seriously prior
to this, just minor high school boyfriends.
So he secured my trust pretty quickly.
He was waiting for me every day after work, after school.
He would always hold my hand.
He would always open doors.
So, in the beginning, he appeared to be
the perfect boyfriend.
♪♪
Maybe the fourth or fifth time that we spoke,
sitting outside eating dinner,
I had asked him why he had moved all the way out here.
You never told me why you ended up moving out here.
It's kind of a sore subject.
And he had said that he had to give up his prior apartment,
because he lived there with his former girlfriend, Norma,
and that she had suddenly disappeared.
What happened?
MORRIS: He said, just very matter of fact,
calmly said, "Oh",
"she... she was in the drug scene.
"All her friends were drinkers, using drugs.
"She would come and go all hours of the day and night.
"And I guess just one day, she just
"decided she didn't want to be with me anymore.
So she just left with her friends and never came back."
And he also made a point of mentioning, "Oh",
"and she left her purse, her wallet, her keys.
"Everything was just left.
She just literally never came back."
I mean, she just finished.
That's so crazy.
MORRIS: I questioned it initially... who leaves their
purse and their personal things as a woman?
He attributed it to,
that's what people do when you just hang out
with people that do drugs and drink alcohol.
You just get tired of it
or you find someone else to move on with,
and you just leave.
Did the cops get involved or anything?
Oh, yeah.
He also went on a little further to say,
"Oh, I had nothing to do with it,
"because the police did question me.
"The police did come over.
The police even gave me a lie detector test."
It was a nightmare.
MORRIS: "But I passed it."
He said, "I had nothing to do with her disappearance."
Looking back, that's absolutely a red flag.
Wow, what a big flag.
But at the time, being young, I was relatively sheltered.
I've never dealt with having anyone disappear
out of my life, so I just believed him.
It's crazy.
He had a way of just dismissing any questions
that you might have had about
his past or about him just saying, "Oh,
it's nothing. Oh, it's no big deal."
And I think when you're young, you believe that.
This the first time I've
seen what Norma actually looks like.
"Missing woman being sought, Miss Parker is a black female
"with light skin, dark hair, and brown eyes
who stands 5-foot-three and weighs 130 pounds."
So she was quite small.
And certainly no match for Tony.
Didn't deserve what happened to her.
He was able to not only murder someone,
but he did get away with it for quite some time.
♪♪
Initially, I didn't think he had
anything to do with her disappearance.
However, certain people would make references
to it when we would go around them,
and they seemed to still have suspicions.
We were out driving one day, and we happened to drive
by his cousin's house,
who lived in that general vicinity.
His cousin was standing outside.
So we pulled up, and Tony
rolled the window down and said, "Hey, how you doing?"
Hey, what's up, cuz?
And the cousin said,
"Don't come around here. Don't speak to me."
Understand me? I want nothing to do with you.
"These people have been coming here every day asking me
"questions about that drum.
"I don't want you to talk to me,
"come around me, nothing.
"I'm sick of these people
comin' to my house asking me questions."
Tony was telling him like, "Hey, settle down."
He said, you know, "It's not what you think.
"It'll be all right.
It's okay. There's nothing going on."
But the cousin was so angry and so aggressive.
He goes, "I don't know what you did, but I've had it."
I'm done with you," and walked away.
Get away from this one. You're better off.
I was completely shocked.
I didn't know what this was about.
What the hell was that?
And he said, "Oh, that's just him being angry
because I didn't pay him enough to help me move."
What container was he talking about?
MORRIS: And he said that his cousin had helped him move
items out of his basement,
including a giant, like, 55-gallon metal drum.
And I thought,
"Why would someone have a drum in their house to begin with?"
That's an industrial thing.
Well, what was in it?
Nothing.
I just assumed that the landlord had maybe stored
things in the basement that really weren't Tony's
possessions at all.
And when Tony moved, he just decided
to clear everything out.
- Sorry about that. - It's okay.
MORRIS: We didn't talk about it any further.
♪♪
Tony's facial expressions sometimes would change
when we were together.
He'd have these moments where he would
just stare off into space, and to look at him
looked evil.
[suspenseful chord strike]
The stare was blank. There was no smile.
Tony?
Yeah.
Like he was in a constant train of thought of something.
I would say, "What's wrong? What are you thinking about?"
And he would say, "Nothing. Nothing. Never mind."
And just would stare off.
Is everything all right?
Yeah.
MORRIS: No smile, no expression, just a blank stare.
Very serious. And a lot of times,
he wouldn't respond when you would say, "What's wrong?"
Something going on?" He would just stare.
Are you sure everything is all right?
I don't know what he was contemplating
during those quiet moments.
But looking back, I wonder if those moments where he was
trying to control, possibly, the urges
that he had to kill someone.
In his confession, Fiebiger
told detectives that he had fantasized almost all his life
about killing people, specifically children.
He said he has more fantasies
about killing than he does about sex.
The first person he seriously thought
about killing was a girl named Maggie.
He was 17 at the time and liked her, but she didn't
like him.
Fiebiger also told police that when he was 18 or 19,
he had picked up a female hitchhiker,
raped her, and dumped her by the side of the road.
That crime apparently was not reported.
This is the first time that...
I'm reading that he had fantasies about
killing children.
See, this? I have never read that
or knew that or... that is so...
Oh, my goodness. I...
can't believe it.
Looking back now, those times that he would
be quiet and not speak to me and stare off...
I believe he was probably fighting urges to kill me.
I don't know exactly
what it was that prevented him from acting on those urges
to hurt me, and I would just
wonder what he would say to that.
Did you have those urges to kill when
you were with me, and what stopped you?
What was it about me?
Was it my kindness towards him?
Was it my ability to
make him feel good rather than inferior?
Was it my willingness to let him
take control of where we were going?
What we were going to do?
I am so grateful that I got away when I did.
♪♪
[music climbing]
This park
just has
a bad memory for me.
Most people don't know what happened.
♪♪
MORRIS: Tony used to like to be outdoors a lot.
He liked to fish.
He'd like to hike.
He always liked to be in parks,
and he would have some of the most remote
locations with literally no one in sight anywhere.
And I used to say, "How did you find this?"
He would say, "Oh, through friends,"
but they were not, like, common locations.
I thought that was pretty neat at first,
but at the same time was kind of creepy in a way,
because no one was ever around.
So one day, Tony decided that we should go meet up
with some of his friends and go have a picnic.
Just sitting there, all of us, he mentioned...
You guys wanna hear something creepy?
- MAN: Yeah. - MORRIS: "Hey, down over there,"
and he pointed to a general area over the hillside,
"There's trails, and a girl was found murdered
there years prior."
And I said, "Really?"
And he said, "Yeah, they never solved her murder.
She was just found on the trail, murdered."
Yeah, it was a couple of years ago.
MORRIS: He did not go into details, real calm,
matter of fact, no emotion.
And one of the friends
we were with said, "Oh, yeah, Marcia, I remember."
Yeah, he's right. It was a high school girl.
And they all talked about it like, yeah,
it was an unsolved murder.
Some high school age girl was just murdered on this trail,
and they never found out who did it.
And he said, "Do you want to go take a walk down there?"
You guys wanna go check it out?
And I said, "No, that's really strange and creepy. No."
Come on, guys, that's sick.
I just found it, like, shocking and sad.
And why would you bring that up at our picnic?
But it just seemed as if everybody was
ready to stand up and go for a walk.
So I stayed behind.
But him and several of our friends,
they took the hike or walk down, and I stayed back.
When he came back, we just packed our things
and went on with the day.
He never brought up
Marcia's murder ever again.
It never occurred to me or dawned on me at the time.
How would he know where exactly she was found?
So this is Grandview Park.
I haven't been here for 30 years.
Up here was where we had the picnic,
looking over the hillside,
and they headed down that hillside,
into these woods, onto that path.
At that time,
I thought it was just a casual walk.
I had no idea
that he was, in fact, the one that murdered the young girl.
This park is a peaceful place,
unfortunately marred by Marcia's murder.
But I hope that her spirit is free and her family
finds comfort,
knowing that justice has been served.
I'm at peace now, being here again 30 years later,
and hope that she is, too.
♪♪
Throughout our course of dating,
Tony decided to introduce me to his mother, Marlene.
She was very gracious, kind.
She seemed to very much like me.
I grew very fond of her. I would go over...
She was always baking cookies, and I would sit at
her table, when we would talk, and she would tell me
different little things about Tony.
One day, I went over to Marlene's house
to spend some time with her. Tony was working.
And she had asked me what we had
done the prior day or the prior weekend,
and I mentioned to her that
Tony had taken me to Grandview Park.
It was a great time until Tony scared the hell out of me
with some story about a murdered girl out in the woods.
MORRIS: And she said to me, "Oh, yes."
You know, Sharon, the day the murder
allegedly happened, the night before,
she said that Tony was in her house
in the middle of the night.
He was acting anxious.
MORRIS: He was in a very hurried, rushed state.
Very excited, very agitated.
He scared me, truly.
And she told him to get out of the house, and he did.
But then she later discovered one of her knives was missing.
And at that point, she just said to me,
"I don't know, Sharon, but I never forgot it.
"I don't know why he would have taken that,
but he was the only one that could have taken that knife."
What are you trying to say?
When she said that to me,
I was shocked that she would think that of her own son.
I did not believe Tony had anything to do with that.
I was just trying to calm and reassure her
that I'm sure he had nothing to do with it.
That was just my instinct was just to
try to calm her and make her feel better.
She did ask me not to say anything to Tony.
She told me things in confidence
and asked me to keep them to myself.
And I honored her wishes and did not ask Tony questions.
It just didn't occur to me in my life
that I actually knew someone
or could know someone that was capable of murder.
Anthony Fiebiger and Joseph Morton
were looking for a woman to rape on a rainy night
16 years ago,
and young Marcia Jones was an easy victim.
Both men tried to rape her
and then took turns beating and kicking her.
Fiebiger wanted to make sure she was dead.
After propping her body up against a tree,
he and Morton walked a short distance to
Fiebiger's home.
They found a long steak knife from
a kitchen drawer and walked back to the woods.
They used it repeatedly, stabbing Jones in the face
and neck.
They then hid her body under some leaves and weeds.
♪♪
This is the first time I seen Marcia Jones. Wow.
Just an innocent, carefree high school student.
He truly was a sociopath.
I just can't... just can't believe it, that's all.
I'm just... can't believe I was with somebody like this.
I didn't have a clue. Just did not have a clue.
[suspenseful music]
♪♪
I'm waiting and waiting and waiting,
and next thing I know,
[suspenseful music]
I see Tony coming out of the mall with
the police officers, handcuffed,
getting into the back of the police car.
Before we moved in together,
I had no idea that Tony had any
interest or knew anything of the martial arts.
And he would just say, "Okay, I'm going to practice now.
You don't mind, I hope?"
You mind if I do some training while you're reading?
Training?
And I said, "Oh, no, go ahead."
I would read a book or watch TV,
and he would stand off to the side and just
start practicing,
twirling and flipping these nunchucks.
I was surprised at first, because he did
not strike me as the martial arts type.
He was kind of overweight.
He smoked.
I was surprised that he knew
how to use them.
While he would work out with these nunchucks,
he would describe to me how you could kill somebody or hurt
somebody with the nunchucks.
You know, you can kill somebody with a pair of these.
MORRIS: Then he would demonstrate that
you could strangle somebody.
Showed me the exact way in which you have to get
the victim to be able to be successful.
Wrap it around their neck and just squeeze
the life out of them.
MORRIS: I didn't necessarily think that was really true.
It just never crossed my mind that someone
would actually use that to kill somebody with.
I later found out that
he had strangled Norma
with those nunchucks.
Looking back, seeing myself sitting there on the couch,
staring at him,
I would have never believed that if you did
something like that, that you would readily talk about it.
When, in fact, you actually did it.
♪♪
While we were dating,
there were times that Tony would disappear
for two or three days at a time.
He would not even give me a warning.
He would just never come home.
We didn't have phones back then, cellphones,
so the only way I could possibly try to find him
would be to call his job
or call his mom or call his friends.
Have you seen Tony?
MORRIS: I would say, "Hey, was he around?
Did you go anywhere?"
And they would say, "No, he wasn't with us."
So he literally would disappear somewhere.
If you could just let me know if you've seen him, okay?
I never really looked
to see if the nunchucks were missing.
It's just not something that crossed my mind,
um, to look for.
When he got back, he would tell me,
"Oh, I just went fishing for two days up at the lake.
You know, that place I took you?"
- What the hell? - What?
His explanation to me was,
"I just like to get away and be by myself,
go camping, fishing, and those are times I wanna be alone."
He said everybody deserves their own private time.
You had me completely freaked out over here.
Honey, I'm sorry.
MORRIS: Up to that point,
we had spent pretty much every waking hour with each other,
so I felt like, "Okay, maybe this is true.
Maybe people do need some downtime."
So I believed it.
Keep me posted next time?
In retrospect, I don't know really what he was doing.
I absolutely wonder
if he wasn't out hurting someone else.
I don't think I ever will know what he was doing,
and I don't necessarily know if I want to
find out either, knowing what I know now.
♪♪
I started getting up every day in the morning,
cooking breakfast for both of us
before we would get ready to go off to work,
and I started noticing sandwich bags laying on
the counter of pills,
different kinds, different shapes.
I would say, "What is this?"
And he would always say, "Oh, they're just downers,"
or, "They're just uppers. I just feel tired today,"
or, "I just needed to relax last night."
At first, it didn't concern me,
because there wasn't a lot of them, but after,
like, several weeks, it just seems like it became more
and more consistent, and then
he started getting in trouble at work.
He was stealing from stores.
These things that he started to do ended in several arrests.
One day, we had to take a ride to Kmart.
I sat in the car, he went in,
and a period of time passed, and he never came back out.
So I'm waiting and waiting and waiting.
And next thing I know, I look over, and I see
Tony coming out of the mall
with the police officers, handcuffed.
[suspenseful music]
I was absolutely devastated.
I mean, I was almost to the point of hysterics, because
I have never seen anybody I know in handcuffs before
being arrested.
I didn't know exactly what he had done.
I just jumped over into
the driver's seat and drove myself home.
I wasn't as happy anymore as I used to be.
Do I leave him? Do I stay?
This is starting to get ugly.
So what's next?
♪♪
MORRIS: During the course of the relationship,
I started to notice that things started to change.
[phone ringing]
Hello?
MORRIS: The final straw for me was
I realized that the behaviors weren't
getting better, they were getting worse.
He would call me from jail, and I just didn't want to
be with somebody that was in and out of jail so often.
I didn't really have a break-up call, per se.
Why are you yelling at me right now?
He would get mad and hang up. I would get mad and hang up.
Are... are you done?
MORRIS: It was more or less,
I just don't want to deal with this anymore.
Just stop calling me.
You know what? I'm done.
And then...
I made plans to move.
Didn't want him to get out of jail
and try to come back and find me.
Instinctively,
I said I must get out of this situation while I have
the opportunity to do so safely.
By the time he would get out of jail,
I could already be gone.
I ended up just packing all my things and...
moving away.
♪♪
After I moved out of the apartment,
a couple months later, I met someone else,
and Greg and I were together for a while.
He wanted me to live with him in his apartment,
so I moved out of my mom's house and moved in with Greg.
I became pregnant
with my oldest daughter,
so I pretty much was living a new life.
After Tony and I broke up, I did not hear from him.
He remained in jail for quite some time.
♪♪
One day, for something to do,
Greg asked if I was interested in going to a monster truck
show in Pittsburgh, and I had never been to one of those,
and I said, "Okay."
- Yeah! - Whoo!
We were sitting there, and I decided to
get up and just stretch.
And I happened to turn around.
When I looked up...
I saw Tony sitting there.
[suspenseful chord strike]
And he was staring directly at me,
and it's like our eyes met.
It's like time stopped right then and there
when I saw his face.
What I saw when I looked and saw his face,
it was blank.
It was dark. It was evil.
It was absolutely evil.
Looking at me as if, you know, if I could, I would kill you.
Didn't even blink, just stared.
It absolutely spooked me to the core,
and I turned away and sat down.
And then...
I nudged Greg and I said, "Tony is here."
[suspenseful chord strike]
And I never looked back again.
We stayed for
maybe 15 more minutes, and I said I wanted to leave,
so we just simply got up,
and Greg took my hand, and we walked out.
I was pregnant at the time,
so I was even more fearful that he would
want to seek revenge, maybe, or want to harm me in some way.
So I spent the next several months until I had
my daughter just kind of staying in our house.
I didn't wanna be out on the streets anymore,
because I didn't know where he was.
♪♪
About a year to maybe two years later,
I was sitting at home with my daughter,
and there was a knock on my door.
There were two gentlemen at the door.
Special Agent Bartol with the FBI.
MORRIS: And they asked if they could speak to me.
I said, "Okay, what is this about?"
And they said, "Do you remember
a gentleman by the name of Anthony Fiebiger?"
Yes. Yes. Please, come in.
And they said, "Recently, we picked up Mr. Fiebiger."
He was on the streets, he was drunk,
and they were picking him up for disorderly conduct.
They took him down to the local
police station.
Once he was in lockup, he started rambling.
And while he was sitting in the jail cell,
he started telling them that
he committed a murder.
[knocking noises]
MORRIS: When the FBI came to my house,
they asked if they could speak to me and told me that Tony had
confessed to killing his last girlfriend prior to me,
and her name was Norma.
And they proceeded to say that allegedly he killed her,
because she woke him up.
He was sleeping, and he got angry and took the nunchucks
and strangled her with them.
Oh, my God.
At which point, he took her body and put it inside of
a drum, went and bought several batteries,
drained them of the battery acid, poured the battery acid
over her,
took the drum in his car, and buried her
and agreed to show them where he buried her.
You're sure that he's the one who...?
He confessed, and he was also able
to lead us to the remains and identify her.
MORRIS: And after that, he decided to tell them
he killed before that,
and then he confessed to killing Marcia.
I was absolutely speechless.
How did I not know
that I was with someone like that?
I had to just sit and absorb everything
that I just heard and say,
how did you not get that?
How did you miss that, when all the signs were there?
But I just didn't see it.
Unfortunately, that's not all.
MORRIS: The FBI agents said one of the reasons they were there
is because they were looking at possibly profiling Tony
as a serial killer.
There's many unsolved murders
that they were possibly
trying to maybe link him to if they could.
How can I help?
Um, we have this book of Missing Persons.
MORRIS: Was there any names that sounded familiar to me?
Was there anybody he ever mentioned?
When the FBI left my house that day, they told me this is
gonna be a capital murder trial,
which means they're seeking the death penalty.
I just sat there...
...just speechless.
I didn't... I couldn't even react.
I was disappointed in myself for not
seeing what was right in front of me.
At the same time, I felt relief that I was still alive.
And then, certainly most importantly,
the profound sadness and sorrow I felt
for the people that had to suffer at his hands.
♪♪
He was living a few miles from me,
working in a church, a Catholic church, and had
apparently a wife and kids, had gone
on with his life like nothing ever happened,
and they knocked on his door.
♪♪
I was at home and received a phone call from one of
the detectives to tell me that
he was sentenced to death, and I...
didn't really ask any questions.
I didn't care to know where or when.
Part of me does not support the death penalty,
but in this situation, where...
he has openly admitted to killing these women,
I do support
the death penalty for him.
He should pay with his life.
And it could never be enough for
several innocent people that had to die.
Anthony Fiebiger, the Brookline sociopath
on death row for two vicious slayings in the 1980s,
wants the state to execute him.
He says he's being tortured in prison by
staying in one cell 23 hours a day.
He doesn't want his life extended another second.
He wants to be executed.
Tony wanting to be executed because
his living conditions are subpar on death row.
If it's that torturous for him,
they should continue to keep him alive,
because there's no amount of torture that can...
match
what he inflicted in his life on innocent people.
♪♪
It is something, to this day, 30 years later, that...
you just never forget.
So it has impacted my life for the rest of my life.
I have not been in contact with him
since he was sentenced to death.
I don't need or want to talk to him, see him.
I can't even imagine what there would be to say.
I don't know that he has ever
been linked to any other unsolved murders.
But it's a very real possibility that there
are other victims out there, and we don't know.
It wouldn't surprise me.
I wonder how I'm sitting here today.
So... that's something I think you live with forever,
because you walked away from
something that somebody else did not.
I'm humble. I'm grateful.
I don't know why, but...
I thank God I am here today to tell this story.