1 00:00:03,837 --> 00:00:06,071 So this is Grandview Park. 2 00:00:06,172 --> 00:00:08,474 I haven't been here for... 3 00:00:08,575 --> 00:00:10,809 30 years. 4 00:00:11,945 --> 00:00:13,812 This is a beautiful place to be, 5 00:00:13,913 --> 00:00:17,649 but this place holds no good memories. 6 00:00:17,751 --> 00:00:19,985 Most people don't know what happened. 7 00:00:21,554 --> 00:00:25,858 Tony and I and some friends were here over 30 years ago 8 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:27,760 having a picnic on the hillside, 9 00:00:27,861 --> 00:00:31,663 and they headed down that hillside into these woods 10 00:00:31,765 --> 00:00:35,334 onto that path... I stayed behind. 11 00:00:35,435 --> 00:00:38,037 I didn't really want to see 12 00:00:38,138 --> 00:00:40,439 a place where 13 00:00:41,841 --> 00:00:42,941 someone was murdered. 14 00:00:52,819 --> 00:00:57,022 The experience of being with Tony Fiebiger... 15 00:00:57,123 --> 00:01:01,794 It is like a permanent tattoo without the ink. 16 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:07,966 That name, I will forever remember for very bad reasons. 17 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:11,904 Who walks around and thinks, possibly my 18 00:01:12,005 --> 00:01:14,173 husband is a serial killer and my boyfriend... 19 00:01:14,274 --> 00:01:18,577 You don't... that's not even in the realm of rational thinking. 20 00:01:21,047 --> 00:01:24,883 It's just such a sickening... wow. 21 00:01:26,419 --> 00:01:28,120 And then I feel like, okay, how many of 22 00:01:28,221 --> 00:01:30,956 my co-workers and everyone's gonna see this 23 00:01:31,057 --> 00:01:34,359 and say, "Sharon, what were you thinking?" 24 00:01:34,461 --> 00:01:37,396 But I'm telling you, I'm telling you, 25 00:01:37,497 --> 00:01:40,432 it can happen to anyone. 26 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:42,434 It can happen to anyone. 27 00:01:45,405 --> 00:01:47,873 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 28 00:01:47,974 --> 00:01:50,909 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 29 00:01:51,010 --> 00:01:56,014 [static crackling] 30 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:57,783 [knock at door] [creaking] 31 00:01:57,884 --> 00:02:03,021 [banging on door] 32 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:08,293 [creaking] 33 00:02:08,394 --> 00:02:10,929 [water dripping] 34 00:02:10,997 --> 00:02:13,565 [banging on door] [creaking] 35 00:02:13,666 --> 00:02:15,033 [sinister chord strikes] 36 00:02:21,407 --> 00:02:24,910 MORRIS: I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 37 00:02:25,011 --> 00:02:26,512 I was studying to be a nurse. 38 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:29,414 I was commuting back and forth from my parents' house 39 00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:32,818 to school... I wanted my own apartment. 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,154 I found an apartment. 41 00:02:35,255 --> 00:02:38,924 The bottom apartment was empty for a while, 42 00:02:39,025 --> 00:02:41,360 maybe 2, 3 months. 43 00:02:41,461 --> 00:02:45,130 And then Anthony Fiebiger moved in. 44 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:49,001 Coming home from school, coming home from work, 45 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:52,971 he would be outside, setting up a grill, 46 00:02:53,072 --> 00:02:55,240 and he would say hello. 47 00:02:55,341 --> 00:02:58,310 I would say hello, and we just started talking. 48 00:02:58,411 --> 00:03:00,212 That's how we got to know each other. 49 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,049 - You want a beer? - Yeah. 50 00:03:04,150 --> 00:03:05,250 Why not? 51 00:03:05,351 --> 00:03:07,019 He wasn't very attractive. 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,921 He was overweight. 53 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:14,826 He was bald, but he was charming and sweet. 54 00:03:14,928 --> 00:03:19,164 After talking to him over and over and over, 55 00:03:19,265 --> 00:03:22,434 he seemed to become funnier to me, 56 00:03:22,535 --> 00:03:25,804 become more relaxed, having casual conversation. 57 00:03:25,905 --> 00:03:31,109 And before I knew it, we were hanging out more and more. 58 00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:34,346 Tony and I dated for a while, 59 00:03:34,447 --> 00:03:38,150 several months... next thing you know, we were living together. 60 00:03:39,419 --> 00:03:44,122 I hadn't really dated anyone seriously prior 61 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:48,527 to this, just minor high school boyfriends. 62 00:03:48,628 --> 00:03:52,164 So he secured my trust pretty quickly. 63 00:03:53,633 --> 00:03:57,769 He was waiting for me every day after work, after school. 64 00:03:57,870 --> 00:04:00,172 He would always hold my hand. 65 00:04:00,273 --> 00:04:02,174 He would always open doors. 66 00:04:02,275 --> 00:04:06,612 So, in the beginning, he appeared to be 67 00:04:06,713 --> 00:04:08,780 the perfect boyfriend. 68 00:04:08,881 --> 00:04:13,785 ♪♪ 69 00:04:13,853 --> 00:04:21,853 ♪♪ 70 00:04:23,663 --> 00:04:26,598 Maybe the fourth or fifth time that we spoke, 71 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:29,701 sitting outside eating dinner, 72 00:04:29,802 --> 00:04:34,439 I had asked him why he had moved all the way out here. 73 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:37,442 You never told me why you ended up moving out here. 74 00:04:37,543 --> 00:04:39,144 It's kind of a sore subject. 75 00:04:40,213 --> 00:04:43,849 And he had said that he had to give up his prior apartment, 76 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:48,587 because he lived there with his former girlfriend, Norma, 77 00:04:48,688 --> 00:04:51,823 and that she had suddenly disappeared. 78 00:04:51,924 --> 00:04:53,158 What happened? 79 00:04:53,259 --> 00:04:56,194 MORRIS: He said, just very matter of fact, 80 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:57,829 calmly said, "Oh", 81 00:04:57,930 --> 00:05:00,265 "she... she was in the drug scene. 82 00:05:00,366 --> 00:05:04,536 "All her friends were drinkers, using drugs. 83 00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:07,372 "She would come and go all hours of the day and night. 84 00:05:07,473 --> 00:05:09,274 "And I guess just one day, she just 85 00:05:09,375 --> 00:05:11,977 "decided she didn't want to be with me anymore. 86 00:05:12,078 --> 00:05:16,682 So she just left with her friends and never came back." 87 00:05:16,783 --> 00:05:20,052 And he also made a point of mentioning, "Oh", 88 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:23,188 "and she left her purse, her wallet, her keys. 89 00:05:23,289 --> 00:05:24,923 "Everything was just left. 90 00:05:25,024 --> 00:05:27,359 She just literally never came back." 91 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:30,295 I mean, she just finished. 92 00:05:30,396 --> 00:05:32,831 That's so crazy. 93 00:05:32,932 --> 00:05:35,434 MORRIS: I questioned it initially... who leaves their 94 00:05:35,535 --> 00:05:39,538 purse and their personal things as a woman? 95 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:40,939 He attributed it to, 96 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,976 that's what people do when you just hang out 97 00:05:45,078 --> 00:05:47,646 with people that do drugs and drink alcohol. 98 00:05:47,747 --> 00:05:49,314 You just get tired of it 99 00:05:49,415 --> 00:05:51,650 or you find someone else to move on with, 100 00:05:51,751 --> 00:05:53,051 and you just leave. 101 00:05:53,152 --> 00:05:54,786 Did the cops get involved or anything? 102 00:05:54,887 --> 00:05:56,154 Oh, yeah. 103 00:05:56,255 --> 00:06:00,359 He also went on a little further to say, 104 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:02,728 "Oh, I had nothing to do with it, 105 00:06:02,829 --> 00:06:05,430 "because the police did question me. 106 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:07,632 "The police did come over. 107 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,869 The police even gave me a lie detector test." 108 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:12,971 It was a nightmare. 109 00:06:13,072 --> 00:06:14,773 MORRIS: "But I passed it." 110 00:06:14,874 --> 00:06:18,076 He said, "I had nothing to do with her disappearance." 111 00:06:18,177 --> 00:06:21,079 Looking back, that's absolutely a red flag. 112 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:22,714 Wow, what a big flag. 113 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:29,921 But at the time, being young, I was relatively sheltered. 114 00:06:30,022 --> 00:06:33,358 I've never dealt with having anyone disappear 115 00:06:33,459 --> 00:06:36,895 out of my life, so I just believed him. 116 00:06:36,996 --> 00:06:38,296 It's crazy. 117 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:42,401 He had a way of just dismissing any questions 118 00:06:42,502 --> 00:06:44,503 that you might have had about 119 00:06:44,604 --> 00:06:47,572 his past or about him just saying, "Oh, 120 00:06:47,673 --> 00:06:50,742 it's nothing. Oh, it's no big deal." 121 00:06:50,843 --> 00:06:54,579 And I think when you're young, you believe that. 122 00:07:02,555 --> 00:07:04,356 This the first time I've 123 00:07:04,457 --> 00:07:07,859 seen what Norma actually looks like. 124 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:13,465 "Missing woman being sought, Miss Parker is a black female 125 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:15,667 "with light skin, dark hair, and brown eyes 126 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:19,304 who stands 5-foot-three and weighs 130 pounds." 127 00:07:21,174 --> 00:07:22,808 So she was quite small. 128 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:27,012 And certainly no match for Tony. 129 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:31,316 Didn't deserve what happened to her. 130 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:36,721 He was able to not only murder someone, 131 00:07:36,823 --> 00:07:40,392 but he did get away with it for quite some time. 132 00:07:40,493 --> 00:07:48,166 ♪♪ 133 00:07:48,267 --> 00:07:51,069 Initially, I didn't think he had 134 00:07:51,170 --> 00:07:54,306 anything to do with her disappearance. 135 00:07:54,407 --> 00:07:58,477 However, certain people would make references 136 00:07:58,578 --> 00:08:02,113 to it when we would go around them, 137 00:08:02,215 --> 00:08:05,917 and they seemed to still have suspicions. 138 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,323 We were out driving one day, and we happened to drive 139 00:08:11,424 --> 00:08:13,258 by his cousin's house, 140 00:08:13,359 --> 00:08:16,027 who lived in that general vicinity. 141 00:08:16,128 --> 00:08:18,196 His cousin was standing outside. 142 00:08:18,297 --> 00:08:21,900 So we pulled up, and Tony 143 00:08:22,001 --> 00:08:25,103 rolled the window down and said, "Hey, how you doing?" 144 00:08:25,204 --> 00:08:26,438 Hey, what's up, cuz? 145 00:08:28,107 --> 00:08:30,075 And the cousin said, 146 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:32,944 "Don't come around here. Don't speak to me." 147 00:08:33,045 --> 00:08:36,281 Understand me? I want nothing to do with you. 148 00:08:36,382 --> 00:08:39,251 "These people have been coming here every day asking me 149 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:41,186 "questions about that drum. 150 00:08:41,287 --> 00:08:44,256 "I don't want you to talk to me, 151 00:08:44,357 --> 00:08:46,124 "come around me, nothing. 152 00:08:46,225 --> 00:08:47,559 "I'm sick of these people 153 00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:50,996 comin' to my house asking me questions." 154 00:08:51,097 --> 00:08:55,867 Tony was telling him like, "Hey, settle down." 155 00:08:55,968 --> 00:08:58,436 He said, you know, "It's not what you think. 156 00:08:58,538 --> 00:08:59,404 "It'll be all right. 157 00:08:59,505 --> 00:09:01,907 It's okay. There's nothing going on." 158 00:09:02,008 --> 00:09:06,411 But the cousin was so angry and so aggressive. 159 00:09:06,512 --> 00:09:09,114 He goes, "I don't know what you did, but I've had it." 160 00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:12,217 I'm done with you," and walked away. 161 00:09:12,318 --> 00:09:14,152 Get away from this one. You're better off. 162 00:09:18,891 --> 00:09:21,259 I was completely shocked. 163 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,628 I didn't know what this was about. 164 00:09:23,729 --> 00:09:25,931 What the hell was that? 165 00:09:26,032 --> 00:09:30,535 And he said, "Oh, that's just him being angry 166 00:09:30,636 --> 00:09:34,973 because I didn't pay him enough to help me move." 167 00:09:35,074 --> 00:09:37,375 What container was he talking about? 168 00:09:37,443 --> 00:09:41,046 MORRIS: And he said that his cousin had helped him move 169 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:42,847 items out of his basement, 170 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:47,786 including a giant, like, 55-gallon metal drum. 171 00:09:48,988 --> 00:09:51,790 And I thought, 172 00:09:51,891 --> 00:09:56,027 "Why would someone have a drum in their house to begin with?" 173 00:09:56,128 --> 00:09:58,830 That's an industrial thing. 174 00:09:58,931 --> 00:10:00,098 Well, what was in it? 175 00:10:01,167 --> 00:10:02,567 Nothing. 176 00:10:02,668 --> 00:10:06,671 I just assumed that the landlord had maybe stored 177 00:10:06,772 --> 00:10:09,608 things in the basement that really weren't Tony's 178 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:11,443 possessions at all. 179 00:10:11,544 --> 00:10:14,512 And when Tony moved, he just decided 180 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,314 to clear everything out. 181 00:10:16,415 --> 00:10:19,517 - Sorry about that. - It's okay. 182 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:21,820 MORRIS: We didn't talk about it any further. 183 00:10:25,458 --> 00:10:32,263 ♪♪ 184 00:10:32,365 --> 00:10:36,534 Tony's facial expressions sometimes would change 185 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:38,136 when we were together. 186 00:10:39,972 --> 00:10:42,807 He'd have these moments where he would 187 00:10:42,908 --> 00:10:46,144 just stare off into space, and to look at him 188 00:10:46,245 --> 00:10:48,146 looked evil. 189 00:10:48,247 --> 00:10:51,916 [suspenseful chord strike] 190 00:10:52,018 --> 00:10:55,286 The stare was blank. There was no smile. 191 00:10:55,388 --> 00:10:56,554 Tony? 192 00:10:58,491 --> 00:10:59,958 Yeah. 193 00:11:00,059 --> 00:11:05,430 Like he was in a constant train of thought of something. 194 00:11:05,531 --> 00:11:08,566 I would say, "What's wrong? What are you thinking about?" 195 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:10,635 And he would say, "Nothing. Nothing. Never mind." 196 00:11:10,736 --> 00:11:12,537 And just would stare off. 197 00:11:12,638 --> 00:11:14,205 Is everything all right? 198 00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:18,343 Yeah. 199 00:11:20,646 --> 00:11:24,115 MORRIS: No smile, no expression, just a blank stare. 200 00:11:24,216 --> 00:11:27,719 Very serious. And a lot of times, 201 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:31,022 he wouldn't respond when you would say, "What's wrong?" 202 00:11:31,123 --> 00:11:34,392 Something going on?" He would just stare. 203 00:11:34,493 --> 00:11:37,195 Are you sure everything is all right? 204 00:11:37,296 --> 00:11:39,564 I don't know what he was contemplating 205 00:11:39,665 --> 00:11:41,066 during those quiet moments. 206 00:11:41,167 --> 00:11:45,970 But looking back, I wonder if those moments where he was 207 00:11:46,072 --> 00:11:50,141 trying to control, possibly, the urges 208 00:11:50,242 --> 00:11:52,544 that he had to kill someone. 209 00:11:57,516 --> 00:12:01,486 In his confession, Fiebiger 210 00:12:01,587 --> 00:12:05,190 told detectives that he had fantasized almost all his life 211 00:12:05,291 --> 00:12:08,493 about killing people, specifically children. 212 00:12:10,096 --> 00:12:11,730 He said he has more fantasies 213 00:12:11,831 --> 00:12:14,866 about killing than he does about sex. 214 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:18,336 The first person he seriously thought 215 00:12:18,437 --> 00:12:20,472 about killing was a girl named Maggie. 216 00:12:20,573 --> 00:12:23,541 He was 17 at the time and liked her, but she didn't 217 00:12:23,642 --> 00:12:24,943 like him. 218 00:12:25,044 --> 00:12:29,047 Fiebiger also told police that when he was 18 or 19, 219 00:12:29,148 --> 00:12:31,082 he had picked up a female hitchhiker, 220 00:12:31,183 --> 00:12:34,853 raped her, and dumped her by the side of the road. 221 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:37,489 That crime apparently was not reported. 222 00:12:39,058 --> 00:12:40,959 This is the first time that... 223 00:12:43,062 --> 00:12:46,531 I'm reading that he had fantasies about 224 00:12:46,632 --> 00:12:48,733 killing children. 225 00:12:48,834 --> 00:12:53,171 See, this? I have never read that 226 00:12:53,272 --> 00:12:56,674 or knew that or... that is so... 227 00:12:56,776 --> 00:13:00,011 Oh, my goodness. I... 228 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:01,513 can't believe it. 229 00:13:04,483 --> 00:13:07,285 Looking back now, those times that he would 230 00:13:07,386 --> 00:13:11,589 be quiet and not speak to me and stare off... 231 00:13:12,992 --> 00:13:16,661 I believe he was probably fighting urges to kill me. 232 00:13:19,198 --> 00:13:21,666 I don't know exactly 233 00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:26,938 what it was that prevented him from acting on those urges 234 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:29,841 to hurt me, and I would just 235 00:13:29,942 --> 00:13:32,343 wonder what he would say to that. 236 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:34,646 Did you have those urges to kill when 237 00:13:34,747 --> 00:13:37,015 you were with me, and what stopped you? 238 00:13:37,116 --> 00:13:39,484 What was it about me? 239 00:13:40,753 --> 00:13:43,054 Was it my kindness towards him? 240 00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:46,057 Was it my ability to 241 00:13:46,158 --> 00:13:49,928 make him feel good rather than inferior? 242 00:13:50,029 --> 00:13:52,864 Was it my willingness to let him 243 00:13:52,965 --> 00:13:54,933 take control of where we were going? 244 00:13:55,034 --> 00:13:57,402 What we were going to do? 245 00:13:57,503 --> 00:14:01,906 I am so grateful that I got away when I did. 246 00:14:02,007 --> 00:14:07,645 ♪♪ 247 00:14:07,746 --> 00:14:13,284 ♪♪ 248 00:14:13,385 --> 00:14:18,690 [music climbing] 249 00:14:18,791 --> 00:14:20,558 This park 250 00:14:20,659 --> 00:14:22,293 just has 251 00:14:23,896 --> 00:14:26,497 a bad memory for me. 252 00:14:26,599 --> 00:14:28,867 Most people don't know what happened. 253 00:14:37,676 --> 00:14:41,846 ♪♪ 254 00:14:41,947 --> 00:14:45,350 MORRIS: Tony used to like to be outdoors a lot. 255 00:14:45,451 --> 00:14:46,918 He liked to fish. 256 00:14:47,019 --> 00:14:48,086 He'd like to hike. 257 00:14:48,187 --> 00:14:51,522 He always liked to be in parks, 258 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:55,326 and he would have some of the most remote 259 00:14:55,427 --> 00:15:00,031 locations with literally no one in sight anywhere. 260 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:04,669 And I used to say, "How did you find this?" 261 00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:06,671 He would say, "Oh, through friends," 262 00:15:06,772 --> 00:15:11,142 but they were not, like, common locations. 263 00:15:11,243 --> 00:15:14,345 I thought that was pretty neat at first, 264 00:15:14,446 --> 00:15:18,816 but at the same time was kind of creepy in a way, 265 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:21,986 because no one was ever around. 266 00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:29,093 So one day, Tony decided that we should go meet up 267 00:15:29,194 --> 00:15:31,496 with some of his friends and go have a picnic. 268 00:15:33,365 --> 00:15:37,502 Just sitting there, all of us, he mentioned... 269 00:15:37,603 --> 00:15:40,238 You guys wanna hear something creepy? 270 00:15:40,339 --> 00:15:42,840 - MAN: Yeah. - MORRIS: "Hey, down over there," 271 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:46,577 and he pointed to a general area over the hillside, 272 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,114 "There's trails, and a girl was found murdered 273 00:15:50,215 --> 00:15:51,649 there years prior." 274 00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:56,354 And I said, "Really?" 275 00:15:56,455 --> 00:15:59,157 And he said, "Yeah, they never solved her murder. 276 00:15:59,258 --> 00:16:01,592 She was just found on the trail, murdered." 277 00:16:01,694 --> 00:16:03,628 Yeah, it was a couple of years ago. 278 00:16:03,729 --> 00:16:08,066 MORRIS: He did not go into details, real calm, 279 00:16:08,167 --> 00:16:10,401 matter of fact, no emotion. 280 00:16:10,502 --> 00:16:13,771 And one of the friends 281 00:16:13,872 --> 00:16:18,009 we were with said, "Oh, yeah, Marcia, I remember." 282 00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:20,845 Yeah, he's right. It was a high school girl. 283 00:16:20,946 --> 00:16:22,647 And they all talked about it like, yeah, 284 00:16:22,781 --> 00:16:24,282 it was an unsolved murder. 285 00:16:24,383 --> 00:16:29,554 Some high school age girl was just murdered on this trail, 286 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:31,422 and they never found out who did it. 287 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:36,427 And he said, "Do you want to go take a walk down there?" 288 00:16:36,528 --> 00:16:38,096 You guys wanna go check it out? 289 00:16:38,197 --> 00:16:42,834 And I said, "No, that's really strange and creepy. No." 290 00:16:43,869 --> 00:16:45,370 Come on, guys, that's sick. 291 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:51,676 I just found it, like, shocking and sad. 292 00:16:51,777 --> 00:16:54,946 And why would you bring that up at our picnic? 293 00:16:55,047 --> 00:16:57,982 But it just seemed as if everybody was 294 00:16:58,083 --> 00:17:00,651 ready to stand up and go for a walk. 295 00:17:00,753 --> 00:17:02,286 So I stayed behind. 296 00:17:02,388 --> 00:17:05,123 But him and several of our friends, 297 00:17:05,224 --> 00:17:08,259 they took the hike or walk down, and I stayed back. 298 00:17:12,364 --> 00:17:14,632 When he came back, we just packed our things 299 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,768 and went on with the day. 300 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,302 He never brought up 301 00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:23,041 Marcia's murder ever again. 302 00:17:23,142 --> 00:17:26,978 It never occurred to me or dawned on me at the time. 303 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:30,615 How would he know where exactly she was found? 304 00:17:33,852 --> 00:17:35,987 So this is Grandview Park. 305 00:17:36,088 --> 00:17:40,224 I haven't been here for 30 years. 306 00:17:41,660 --> 00:17:45,696 Up here was where we had the picnic, 307 00:17:45,798 --> 00:17:47,732 looking over the hillside, 308 00:17:47,833 --> 00:17:51,569 and they headed down that hillside, 309 00:17:52,938 --> 00:17:55,773 into these woods, onto that path. 310 00:17:57,843 --> 00:18:00,078 At that time, 311 00:18:00,179 --> 00:18:03,014 I thought it was just a casual walk. 312 00:18:03,115 --> 00:18:05,650 I had no idea 313 00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:08,352 that he was, in fact, the one that murdered the young girl. 314 00:18:10,322 --> 00:18:12,256 This park is a peaceful place, 315 00:18:12,357 --> 00:18:15,927 unfortunately marred by Marcia's murder. 316 00:18:17,629 --> 00:18:21,466 But I hope that her spirit is free and her family 317 00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:22,567 finds comfort, 318 00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:26,104 knowing that justice has been served. 319 00:18:27,773 --> 00:18:31,742 I'm at peace now, being here again 30 years later, 320 00:18:35,147 --> 00:18:36,614 and hope that she is, too. 321 00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:43,521 ♪♪ 322 00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:49,894 ♪♪ 323 00:18:49,995 --> 00:18:51,562 Throughout our course of dating, 324 00:18:51,663 --> 00:18:56,234 Tony decided to introduce me to his mother, Marlene. 325 00:18:56,335 --> 00:19:00,238 She was very gracious, kind. 326 00:19:00,339 --> 00:19:02,907 She seemed to very much like me. 327 00:19:03,008 --> 00:19:06,010 I grew very fond of her. I would go over... 328 00:19:06,111 --> 00:19:09,847 She was always baking cookies, and I would sit at 329 00:19:09,948 --> 00:19:13,417 her table, when we would talk, and she would tell me 330 00:19:13,519 --> 00:19:15,653 different little things about Tony. 331 00:19:18,657 --> 00:19:20,525 One day, I went over to Marlene's house 332 00:19:20,626 --> 00:19:24,228 to spend some time with her. Tony was working. 333 00:19:25,497 --> 00:19:27,365 And she had asked me what we had 334 00:19:27,466 --> 00:19:30,268 done the prior day or the prior weekend, 335 00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:31,636 and I mentioned to her that 336 00:19:31,737 --> 00:19:34,472 Tony had taken me to Grandview Park. 337 00:19:34,573 --> 00:19:38,075 It was a great time until Tony scared the hell out of me 338 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:40,778 with some story about a murdered girl out in the woods. 339 00:19:42,881 --> 00:19:45,716 MORRIS: And she said to me, "Oh, yes." 340 00:19:45,817 --> 00:19:48,686 You know, Sharon, the day the murder 341 00:19:48,787 --> 00:19:52,156 allegedly happened, the night before, 342 00:19:52,257 --> 00:19:55,092 she said that Tony was in her house 343 00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,762 in the middle of the night. 344 00:19:57,863 --> 00:20:00,298 He was acting anxious. 345 00:20:00,399 --> 00:20:04,402 MORRIS: He was in a very hurried, rushed state. 346 00:20:04,503 --> 00:20:08,206 Very excited, very agitated. 347 00:20:08,307 --> 00:20:10,208 He scared me, truly. 348 00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:14,779 And she told him to get out of the house, and he did. 349 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,783 But then she later discovered one of her knives was missing. 350 00:20:20,852 --> 00:20:23,821 And at that point, she just said to me, 351 00:20:23,922 --> 00:20:27,325 "I don't know, Sharon, but I never forgot it. 352 00:20:27,426 --> 00:20:29,727 "I don't know why he would have taken that, 353 00:20:29,828 --> 00:20:34,131 but he was the only one that could have taken that knife." 354 00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:37,068 What are you trying to say? 355 00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:39,237 When she said that to me, 356 00:20:39,338 --> 00:20:43,841 I was shocked that she would think that of her own son. 357 00:20:45,477 --> 00:20:48,479 I did not believe Tony had anything to do with that. 358 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:51,215 I was just trying to calm and reassure her 359 00:20:51,316 --> 00:20:55,586 that I'm sure he had nothing to do with it. 360 00:20:55,687 --> 00:20:59,690 That was just my instinct was just to 361 00:20:59,791 --> 00:21:03,194 try to calm her and make her feel better. 362 00:21:03,295 --> 00:21:08,132 She did ask me not to say anything to Tony. 363 00:21:08,233 --> 00:21:10,468 She told me things in confidence 364 00:21:10,569 --> 00:21:13,337 and asked me to keep them to myself. 365 00:21:13,438 --> 00:21:18,276 And I honored her wishes and did not ask Tony questions. 366 00:21:18,377 --> 00:21:22,313 It just didn't occur to me in my life 367 00:21:22,414 --> 00:21:24,382 that I actually knew someone 368 00:21:24,483 --> 00:21:28,686 or could know someone that was capable of murder. 369 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,494 Anthony Fiebiger and Joseph Morton 370 00:21:36,595 --> 00:21:39,397 were looking for a woman to rape on a rainy night 371 00:21:39,498 --> 00:21:41,332 16 years ago, 372 00:21:41,433 --> 00:21:44,435 and young Marcia Jones was an easy victim. 373 00:21:45,704 --> 00:21:47,805 Both men tried to rape her 374 00:21:47,906 --> 00:21:51,208 and then took turns beating and kicking her. 375 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:54,712 Fiebiger wanted to make sure she was dead. 376 00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:57,415 After propping her body up against a tree, 377 00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,850 he and Morton walked a short distance to 378 00:21:59,951 --> 00:22:00,951 Fiebiger's home. 379 00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:02,620 They found a long steak knife from 380 00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:05,890 a kitchen drawer and walked back to the woods. 381 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:09,694 They used it repeatedly, stabbing Jones in the face 382 00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:11,195 and neck. 383 00:22:11,296 --> 00:22:14,131 They then hid her body under some leaves and weeds. 384 00:22:14,232 --> 00:22:20,838 ♪♪ 385 00:22:20,939 --> 00:22:26,477 This is the first time I seen Marcia Jones. Wow. 386 00:22:28,647 --> 00:22:33,517 Just an innocent, carefree high school student. 387 00:22:33,618 --> 00:22:35,953 He truly was a sociopath. 388 00:22:36,054 --> 00:22:39,323 I just can't... just can't believe it, that's all. 389 00:22:39,424 --> 00:22:44,628 I'm just... can't believe I was with somebody like this. 390 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:48,432 I didn't have a clue. Just did not have a clue. 391 00:22:52,537 --> 00:22:54,438 [suspenseful music] 392 00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:59,009 ♪♪ 393 00:22:59,111 --> 00:23:01,178 I'm waiting and waiting and waiting, 394 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:02,313 and next thing I know, 395 00:23:02,414 --> 00:23:04,882 [suspenseful music] 396 00:23:04,983 --> 00:23:09,086 I see Tony coming out of the mall with 397 00:23:09,187 --> 00:23:12,289 the police officers, handcuffed, 398 00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:13,991 getting into the back of the police car. 399 00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:29,607 Before we moved in together, 400 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:34,345 I had no idea that Tony had any 401 00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:38,282 interest or knew anything of the martial arts. 402 00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:42,520 And he would just say, "Okay, I'm going to practice now. 403 00:23:42,621 --> 00:23:43,821 You don't mind, I hope?" 404 00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:46,490 You mind if I do some training while you're reading? 405 00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:48,259 Training? 406 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,593 And I said, "Oh, no, go ahead." 407 00:23:49,694 --> 00:23:51,595 I would read a book or watch TV, 408 00:23:51,696 --> 00:23:53,831 and he would stand off to the side and just 409 00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:55,132 start practicing, 410 00:23:56,501 --> 00:23:58,836 twirling and flipping these nunchucks. 411 00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:02,440 I was surprised at first, because he did 412 00:24:02,541 --> 00:24:05,843 not strike me as the martial arts type. 413 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,746 He was kind of overweight. 414 00:24:08,847 --> 00:24:10,481 He smoked. 415 00:24:10,582 --> 00:24:13,184 I was surprised that he knew 416 00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:14,985 how to use them. 417 00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:22,893 While he would work out with these nunchucks, 418 00:24:22,994 --> 00:24:27,331 he would describe to me how you could kill somebody or hurt 419 00:24:27,432 --> 00:24:29,333 somebody with the nunchucks. 420 00:24:29,434 --> 00:24:32,436 You know, you can kill somebody with a pair of these. 421 00:24:32,537 --> 00:24:34,338 MORRIS: Then he would demonstrate that 422 00:24:34,439 --> 00:24:35,906 you could strangle somebody. 423 00:24:36,007 --> 00:24:39,410 Showed me the exact way in which you have to get 424 00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:42,179 the victim to be able to be successful. 425 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,616 Wrap it around their neck and just squeeze 426 00:24:45,717 --> 00:24:46,884 the life out of them. 427 00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:50,688 MORRIS: I didn't necessarily think that was really true. 428 00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:54,024 It just never crossed my mind that someone 429 00:24:54,125 --> 00:24:57,228 would actually use that to kill somebody with. 430 00:24:59,231 --> 00:25:03,167 I later found out that 431 00:25:03,268 --> 00:25:06,403 he had strangled Norma 432 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,339 with those nunchucks. 433 00:25:11,076 --> 00:25:15,212 Looking back, seeing myself sitting there on the couch, 434 00:25:15,313 --> 00:25:16,313 staring at him, 435 00:25:17,682 --> 00:25:22,586 I would have never believed that if you did 436 00:25:22,687 --> 00:25:26,757 something like that, that you would readily talk about it. 437 00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:30,794 When, in fact, you actually did it. 438 00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:38,896 ♪♪ 439 00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:41,739 ♪♪ 440 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,374 While we were dating, 441 00:25:43,475 --> 00:25:47,545 there were times that Tony would disappear 442 00:25:47,646 --> 00:25:50,648 for two or three days at a time. 443 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:55,519 He would not even give me a warning. 444 00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:58,656 He would just never come home. 445 00:25:58,757 --> 00:26:01,825 We didn't have phones back then, cellphones, 446 00:26:01,927 --> 00:26:05,763 so the only way I could possibly try to find him 447 00:26:05,864 --> 00:26:08,332 would be to call his job 448 00:26:08,433 --> 00:26:11,335 or call his mom or call his friends. 449 00:26:11,436 --> 00:26:13,270 Have you seen Tony? 450 00:26:13,371 --> 00:26:15,573 MORRIS: I would say, "Hey, was he around? 451 00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:16,740 Did you go anywhere?" 452 00:26:16,841 --> 00:26:19,577 And they would say, "No, he wasn't with us." 453 00:26:19,678 --> 00:26:24,615 So he literally would disappear somewhere. 454 00:26:24,716 --> 00:26:27,518 If you could just let me know if you've seen him, okay? 455 00:26:27,619 --> 00:26:30,721 I never really looked 456 00:26:30,822 --> 00:26:32,890 to see if the nunchucks were missing. 457 00:26:32,991 --> 00:26:35,559 It's just not something that crossed my mind, 458 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:39,296 um, to look for. 459 00:26:42,334 --> 00:26:44,234 When he got back, he would tell me, 460 00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:47,338 "Oh, I just went fishing for two days up at the lake. 461 00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:48,973 You know, that place I took you?" 462 00:26:49,074 --> 00:26:51,542 - What the hell? - What? 463 00:26:51,643 --> 00:26:53,777 His explanation to me was, 464 00:26:53,878 --> 00:26:56,614 "I just like to get away and be by myself, 465 00:26:56,715 --> 00:27:00,818 go camping, fishing, and those are times I wanna be alone." 466 00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:04,822 He said everybody deserves their own private time. 467 00:27:04,923 --> 00:27:07,124 You had me completely freaked out over here. 468 00:27:08,226 --> 00:27:09,627 Honey, I'm sorry. 469 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:11,595 MORRIS: Up to that point, 470 00:27:11,696 --> 00:27:14,965 we had spent pretty much every waking hour with each other, 471 00:27:15,066 --> 00:27:18,602 so I felt like, "Okay, maybe this is true. 472 00:27:18,703 --> 00:27:20,537 Maybe people do need some downtime." 473 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:22,706 So I believed it. 474 00:27:22,807 --> 00:27:24,508 Keep me posted next time? 475 00:27:24,609 --> 00:27:28,345 In retrospect, I don't know really what he was doing. 476 00:27:28,446 --> 00:27:30,748 I absolutely wonder 477 00:27:30,849 --> 00:27:33,417 if he wasn't out hurting someone else. 478 00:27:33,518 --> 00:27:37,187 I don't think I ever will know what he was doing, 479 00:27:37,288 --> 00:27:41,725 and I don't necessarily know if I want to 480 00:27:41,826 --> 00:27:44,495 find out either, knowing what I know now. 481 00:27:47,866 --> 00:27:53,937 ♪♪ 482 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:57,141 I started getting up every day in the morning, 483 00:27:57,242 --> 00:27:59,009 cooking breakfast for both of us 484 00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:02,012 before we would get ready to go off to work, 485 00:28:02,113 --> 00:28:05,949 and I started noticing sandwich bags laying on 486 00:28:06,051 --> 00:28:08,118 the counter of pills, 487 00:28:08,219 --> 00:28:10,821 different kinds, different shapes. 488 00:28:10,922 --> 00:28:13,424 I would say, "What is this?" 489 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:16,560 And he would always say, "Oh, they're just downers," 490 00:28:16,661 --> 00:28:19,063 or, "They're just uppers. I just feel tired today," 491 00:28:19,164 --> 00:28:21,365 or, "I just needed to relax last night." 492 00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:24,034 At first, it didn't concern me, 493 00:28:24,135 --> 00:28:28,038 because there wasn't a lot of them, but after, 494 00:28:28,139 --> 00:28:31,642 like, several weeks, it just seems like it became more 495 00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:34,645 and more consistent, and then 496 00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:36,613 he started getting in trouble at work. 497 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:40,150 He was stealing from stores. 498 00:28:40,251 --> 00:28:46,090 These things that he started to do ended in several arrests. 499 00:28:50,762 --> 00:28:53,931 One day, we had to take a ride to Kmart. 500 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:57,234 I sat in the car, he went in, 501 00:28:57,335 --> 00:29:00,938 and a period of time passed, and he never came back out. 502 00:29:02,507 --> 00:29:04,708 So I'm waiting and waiting and waiting. 503 00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:08,679 And next thing I know, I look over, and I see 504 00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:10,681 Tony coming out of the mall 505 00:29:10,782 --> 00:29:14,218 with the police officers, handcuffed. 506 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:16,920 [suspenseful music] 507 00:29:17,021 --> 00:29:20,023 I was absolutely devastated. 508 00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:22,993 I mean, I was almost to the point of hysterics, because 509 00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:26,296 I have never seen anybody I know in handcuffs before 510 00:29:26,397 --> 00:29:27,998 being arrested. 511 00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:30,667 I didn't know exactly what he had done. 512 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:32,603 I just jumped over into 513 00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:35,005 the driver's seat and drove myself home. 514 00:29:36,674 --> 00:29:39,877 I wasn't as happy anymore as I used to be. 515 00:29:39,978 --> 00:29:41,612 Do I leave him? Do I stay? 516 00:29:41,713 --> 00:29:45,082 This is starting to get ugly. 517 00:29:45,183 --> 00:29:47,618 So what's next? 518 00:29:56,361 --> 00:29:59,863 ♪♪ 519 00:29:59,964 --> 00:30:01,932 MORRIS: During the course of the relationship, 520 00:30:02,033 --> 00:30:06,436 I started to notice that things started to change. 521 00:30:06,538 --> 00:30:09,873 [phone ringing] 522 00:30:09,974 --> 00:30:11,508 Hello? 523 00:30:11,609 --> 00:30:13,811 MORRIS: The final straw for me was 524 00:30:13,912 --> 00:30:16,547 I realized that the behaviors weren't 525 00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:18,782 getting better, they were getting worse. 526 00:30:20,051 --> 00:30:23,921 He would call me from jail, and I just didn't want to 527 00:30:24,022 --> 00:30:27,958 be with somebody that was in and out of jail so often. 528 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,130 I didn't really have a break-up call, per se. 529 00:30:33,231 --> 00:30:35,332 Why are you yelling at me right now? 530 00:30:36,534 --> 00:30:39,837 He would get mad and hang up. I would get mad and hang up. 531 00:30:39,938 --> 00:30:41,505 Are... are you done? 532 00:30:41,606 --> 00:30:43,207 MORRIS: It was more or less, 533 00:30:43,308 --> 00:30:46,009 I just don't want to deal with this anymore. 534 00:30:46,110 --> 00:30:47,578 Just stop calling me. 535 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,914 You know what? I'm done. 536 00:30:54,252 --> 00:30:56,486 And then... 537 00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:58,021 I made plans to move. 538 00:30:59,324 --> 00:31:00,791 Didn't want him to get out of jail 539 00:31:00,892 --> 00:31:04,194 and try to come back and find me. 540 00:31:05,964 --> 00:31:07,130 Instinctively, 541 00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:10,834 I said I must get out of this situation while I have 542 00:31:10,935 --> 00:31:13,470 the opportunity to do so safely. 543 00:31:13,571 --> 00:31:17,274 By the time he would get out of jail, 544 00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:18,742 I could already be gone. 545 00:31:18,843 --> 00:31:23,547 I ended up just packing all my things and... 546 00:31:24,949 --> 00:31:26,049 moving away. 547 00:31:31,522 --> 00:31:37,427 ♪♪ 548 00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:39,396 After I moved out of the apartment, 549 00:31:39,497 --> 00:31:42,165 a couple months later, I met someone else, 550 00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:46,336 and Greg and I were together for a while. 551 00:31:46,437 --> 00:31:48,739 He wanted me to live with him in his apartment, 552 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,210 so I moved out of my mom's house and moved in with Greg. 553 00:31:53,311 --> 00:31:56,813 I became pregnant 554 00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:58,949 with my oldest daughter, 555 00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:04,888 so I pretty much was living a new life. 556 00:32:04,989 --> 00:32:09,626 After Tony and I broke up, I did not hear from him. 557 00:32:09,727 --> 00:32:13,497 He remained in jail for quite some time. 558 00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:23,740 ♪♪ 559 00:32:23,841 --> 00:32:25,609 One day, for something to do, 560 00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:30,113 Greg asked if I was interested in going to a monster truck 561 00:32:30,214 --> 00:32:33,984 show in Pittsburgh, and I had never been to one of those, 562 00:32:34,085 --> 00:32:35,886 and I said, "Okay." 563 00:32:35,987 --> 00:32:38,121 - Yeah! - Whoo! 564 00:32:38,222 --> 00:32:40,223 We were sitting there, and I decided to 565 00:32:40,325 --> 00:32:42,092 get up and just stretch. 566 00:32:43,895 --> 00:32:45,929 And I happened to turn around. 567 00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:47,064 When I looked up... 568 00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:50,367 I saw Tony sitting there. 569 00:32:52,003 --> 00:32:55,038 [suspenseful chord strike] 570 00:32:55,139 --> 00:32:57,808 And he was staring directly at me, 571 00:32:57,909 --> 00:33:01,078 and it's like our eyes met. 572 00:33:03,281 --> 00:33:05,749 It's like time stopped right then and there 573 00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:07,250 when I saw his face. 574 00:33:08,586 --> 00:33:12,956 What I saw when I looked and saw his face, 575 00:33:13,057 --> 00:33:14,858 it was blank. 576 00:33:14,959 --> 00:33:18,996 It was dark. It was evil. 577 00:33:20,264 --> 00:33:21,398 It was absolutely evil. 578 00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:27,871 Looking at me as if, you know, if I could, I would kill you. 579 00:33:27,972 --> 00:33:29,773 Didn't even blink, just stared. 580 00:33:31,242 --> 00:33:35,045 It absolutely spooked me to the core, 581 00:33:35,146 --> 00:33:37,280 and I turned away and sat down. 582 00:33:37,382 --> 00:33:39,116 And then... 583 00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:42,753 I nudged Greg and I said, "Tony is here." 584 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:46,289 [suspenseful chord strike] 585 00:33:46,391 --> 00:33:47,791 And I never looked back again. 586 00:33:47,892 --> 00:33:49,826 We stayed for 587 00:33:49,927 --> 00:33:53,296 maybe 15 more minutes, and I said I wanted to leave, 588 00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:54,898 so we just simply got up, 589 00:33:54,999 --> 00:33:58,001 and Greg took my hand, and we walked out. 590 00:33:58,102 --> 00:33:59,202 I was pregnant at the time, 591 00:33:59,303 --> 00:34:03,340 so I was even more fearful that he would 592 00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:07,611 want to seek revenge, maybe, or want to harm me in some way. 593 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:12,983 So I spent the next several months until I had 594 00:34:13,084 --> 00:34:17,254 my daughter just kind of staying in our house. 595 00:34:17,355 --> 00:34:20,657 I didn't wanna be out on the streets anymore, 596 00:34:20,758 --> 00:34:22,492 because I didn't know where he was. 597 00:34:22,593 --> 00:34:30,593 ♪♪ 598 00:34:31,436 --> 00:34:33,904 About a year to maybe two years later, 599 00:34:34,005 --> 00:34:37,674 I was sitting at home with my daughter, 600 00:34:37,775 --> 00:34:40,944 and there was a knock on my door. 601 00:34:41,045 --> 00:34:44,047 There were two gentlemen at the door. 602 00:34:44,148 --> 00:34:46,516 Special Agent Bartol with the FBI. 603 00:34:46,617 --> 00:34:49,653 MORRIS: And they asked if they could speak to me. 604 00:34:49,754 --> 00:34:52,456 I said, "Okay, what is this about?" 605 00:34:52,557 --> 00:34:54,357 And they said, "Do you remember 606 00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:57,127 a gentleman by the name of Anthony Fiebiger?" 607 00:34:57,228 --> 00:34:59,362 Yes. Yes. Please, come in. 608 00:34:59,464 --> 00:35:02,966 And they said, "Recently, we picked up Mr. Fiebiger." 609 00:35:03,067 --> 00:35:05,869 He was on the streets, he was drunk, 610 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:09,539 and they were picking him up for disorderly conduct. 611 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,777 They took him down to the local 612 00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:14,911 police station. 613 00:35:14,979 --> 00:35:17,981 Once he was in lockup, he started rambling. 614 00:35:18,082 --> 00:35:21,251 And while he was sitting in the jail cell, 615 00:35:21,352 --> 00:35:25,188 he started telling them that 616 00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:26,556 he committed a murder. 617 00:35:34,398 --> 00:35:36,833 [knocking noises] 618 00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:39,669 MORRIS: When the FBI came to my house, 619 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:45,275 they asked if they could speak to me and told me that Tony had 620 00:35:45,376 --> 00:35:50,080 confessed to killing his last girlfriend prior to me, 621 00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:51,448 and her name was Norma. 622 00:35:53,718 --> 00:35:57,354 And they proceeded to say that allegedly he killed her, 623 00:35:57,488 --> 00:35:59,523 because she woke him up. 624 00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:03,727 He was sleeping, and he got angry and took the nunchucks 625 00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:06,196 and strangled her with them. 626 00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:07,297 Oh, my God. 627 00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:11,635 At which point, he took her body and put it inside of 628 00:36:11,736 --> 00:36:15,672 a drum, went and bought several batteries, 629 00:36:15,773 --> 00:36:21,144 drained them of the battery acid, poured the battery acid 630 00:36:21,245 --> 00:36:23,246 over her, 631 00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:26,783 took the drum in his car, and buried her 632 00:36:26,884 --> 00:36:32,122 and agreed to show them where he buried her. 633 00:36:32,223 --> 00:36:35,025 You're sure that he's the one who...? 634 00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:36,993 He confessed, and he was also able 635 00:36:37,094 --> 00:36:38,895 to lead us to the remains and identify her. 636 00:36:39,964 --> 00:36:44,367 MORRIS: And after that, he decided to tell them 637 00:36:44,468 --> 00:36:46,136 he killed before that, 638 00:36:46,237 --> 00:36:51,675 and then he confessed to killing Marcia. 639 00:36:53,311 --> 00:36:56,613 I was absolutely speechless. 640 00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:59,916 How did I not know 641 00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:03,286 that I was with someone like that? 642 00:37:03,387 --> 00:37:08,325 I had to just sit and absorb everything 643 00:37:08,426 --> 00:37:11,995 that I just heard and say, 644 00:37:12,096 --> 00:37:16,266 how did you not get that? 645 00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:21,304 How did you miss that, when all the signs were there? 646 00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:23,840 But I just didn't see it. 647 00:37:23,941 --> 00:37:25,475 Unfortunately, that's not all. 648 00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:29,879 MORRIS: The FBI agents said one of the reasons they were there 649 00:37:29,981 --> 00:37:33,950 is because they were looking at possibly profiling Tony 650 00:37:34,051 --> 00:37:35,919 as a serial killer. 651 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:38,855 There's many unsolved murders 652 00:37:38,956 --> 00:37:42,259 that they were possibly 653 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,662 trying to maybe link him to if they could. 654 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:47,364 How can I help? 655 00:37:47,465 --> 00:37:51,301 Um, we have this book of Missing Persons. 656 00:37:51,402 --> 00:37:53,770 MORRIS: Was there any names that sounded familiar to me? 657 00:37:53,871 --> 00:37:56,306 Was there anybody he ever mentioned? 658 00:37:56,407 --> 00:38:00,343 When the FBI left my house that day, they told me this is 659 00:38:00,444 --> 00:38:02,445 gonna be a capital murder trial, 660 00:38:02,546 --> 00:38:06,016 which means they're seeking the death penalty. 661 00:38:11,722 --> 00:38:13,423 I just sat there... 662 00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:18,194 ...just speechless. 663 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:21,931 I didn't... I couldn't even react. 664 00:38:22,033 --> 00:38:24,301 I was disappointed in myself for not 665 00:38:24,402 --> 00:38:28,038 seeing what was right in front of me. 666 00:38:28,139 --> 00:38:32,642 At the same time, I felt relief that I was still alive. 667 00:38:32,743 --> 00:38:36,346 And then, certainly most importantly, 668 00:38:36,447 --> 00:38:40,550 the profound sadness and sorrow I felt 669 00:38:40,651 --> 00:38:44,020 for the people that had to suffer at his hands. 670 00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:54,731 ♪♪ 671 00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:58,234 He was living a few miles from me, 672 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:03,440 working in a church, a Catholic church, and had 673 00:39:03,541 --> 00:39:06,209 apparently a wife and kids, had gone 674 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:09,079 on with his life like nothing ever happened, 675 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,513 and they knocked on his door. 676 00:39:10,614 --> 00:39:18,421 ♪♪ 677 00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:23,326 ♪♪ 678 00:39:23,427 --> 00:39:26,196 I was at home and received a phone call from one of 679 00:39:26,263 --> 00:39:28,331 the detectives to tell me that 680 00:39:28,432 --> 00:39:30,834 he was sentenced to death, and I... 681 00:39:32,336 --> 00:39:34,170 didn't really ask any questions. 682 00:39:34,271 --> 00:39:36,473 I didn't care to know where or when. 683 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:42,846 Part of me does not support the death penalty, 684 00:39:42,947 --> 00:39:45,982 but in this situation, where... 685 00:39:47,351 --> 00:39:52,622 he has openly admitted to killing these women, 686 00:39:52,723 --> 00:39:54,924 I do support 687 00:39:55,025 --> 00:39:56,893 the death penalty for him. 688 00:39:58,929 --> 00:40:02,799 He should pay with his life. 689 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:05,702 And it could never be enough for 690 00:40:05,803 --> 00:40:11,374 several innocent people that had to die. 691 00:40:16,514 --> 00:40:19,382 Anthony Fiebiger, the Brookline sociopath 692 00:40:19,483 --> 00:40:23,186 on death row for two vicious slayings in the 1980s, 693 00:40:23,287 --> 00:40:25,221 wants the state to execute him. 694 00:40:27,491 --> 00:40:29,959 He says he's being tortured in prison by 695 00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:32,796 staying in one cell 23 hours a day. 696 00:40:32,897 --> 00:40:35,832 He doesn't want his life extended another second. 697 00:40:35,966 --> 00:40:37,801 He wants to be executed. 698 00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:44,007 Tony wanting to be executed because 699 00:40:45,376 --> 00:40:50,914 his living conditions are subpar on death row. 700 00:40:52,583 --> 00:40:55,251 If it's that torturous for him, 701 00:40:55,352 --> 00:40:57,287 they should continue to keep him alive, 702 00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:03,092 because there's no amount of torture that can... 703 00:41:03,194 --> 00:41:05,028 match 704 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:08,064 what he inflicted in his life on innocent people. 705 00:41:08,165 --> 00:41:13,102 ♪♪ 706 00:41:13,204 --> 00:41:20,109 ♪♪ 707 00:41:20,211 --> 00:41:24,414 It is something, to this day, 30 years later, that... 708 00:41:26,283 --> 00:41:27,684 you just never forget. 709 00:41:27,785 --> 00:41:32,021 So it has impacted my life for the rest of my life. 710 00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:35,391 I have not been in contact with him 711 00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:37,260 since he was sentenced to death. 712 00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:42,532 I don't need or want to talk to him, see him. 713 00:41:43,767 --> 00:41:46,169 I can't even imagine what there would be to say. 714 00:41:47,271 --> 00:41:49,205 I don't know that he has ever 715 00:41:49,306 --> 00:41:52,375 been linked to any other unsolved murders. 716 00:41:53,577 --> 00:41:56,746 But it's a very real possibility that there 717 00:41:56,847 --> 00:42:00,617 are other victims out there, and we don't know. 718 00:42:00,718 --> 00:42:02,919 It wouldn't surprise me. 719 00:42:06,123 --> 00:42:08,057 I wonder how I'm sitting here today. 720 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,162 So... that's something I think you live with forever, 721 00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:15,865 because you walked away from 722 00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:18,635 something that somebody else did not. 723 00:42:18,736 --> 00:42:21,504 I'm humble. I'm grateful. 724 00:42:21,605 --> 00:42:24,941 I don't know why, but... 725 00:42:27,011 --> 00:42:30,113 I thank God I am here today to tell this story.